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Both Ponting and Gambhir average less than 30 in their last 25 Test innings. Plus: the uncanny similarities between two West Indies two left-handers
November 18, 2011
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The career stats of Ricky Ponting and Gautam Gambhir can't be compared at the moment - one is a legend, having scored more than 12,000 Test runs at nearly 53, while the other is still climbing the rungs of batsmanship and hasn't yet reached 3500 Test runs. Yet, over the last 22 months, they've both gone through a poor run, posting numbers that look very similar: both have played exactly 25 innings, haven't scored a century, and averaged less than 30.
Obviously the spotlight has been much more on Ponting than on Gambhir, who has escaped almost any attention during this period. Ponting has had a far more successful career so far, with runs in almost all sorts of conditions against different types of bowling attacks over an extended period of time. Moreover, the highs he had were quite spectacular: during the eight-year period between 1999 and 2006, Ponting scored 8114 runs at 65.43, easily the best among all batsmen during that period, which also mean his lows will come under greater scrutiny too.
A couple of other factors come in too: Ponting's slump has been much longer. Since the beginning of 2007, no batsman with 3000 runs has a lower average, which indicates just how low his stocks have fallen. Also, Gambhir has managed to deflect attention also because of his fabulous ODI record during this period: in 23 matches, he has scored two centuries and eight fifties, and averages 56.90 at a strike rate of 91.77. Ponting's is pretty good too, but nowhere near Gambhir's - average of 40, and strike rate of 84 in 34 innings. Moreover, in the previous two years below this recent slump, Gambhir had scored eight hundreds in 29 innings, and averaged 76.59.
The last 22 months, though, have been forgettable for both in Tests. Gambhir was a touch unlucky in England with injuries, and India's plight on that tour meant he was forced to bat despite not being in a condition to do so. However, that's only one out of the seven series he has played during this period. Ponting has played six series (including the ongoing one in South Africa), and apart from the tour to India in 2010-11, has averaged less than 32 in each.
| Batsman | Tests | Innings | Runs | Average | 100s/ 50s |
| Ricky Ponting | 13 | 25 | 636 | 26.50 | 0/ 5 |
| Gautam Gambhir | 14 | 25 | 704 | 29.33 | 0/ 6 |
At their respective positions, both Gambhir and Ponting have been among the poorest performers. Gambhir's average as an opener during this period has been 31.85 - among openers who've batted at least 15 innings during this period, only Bangladesh's Imrul Kayes and Phil Hughes of Australia have poorer averages. Despite Gambhir's lean patch, though, he's still managed to put together reasonable partnerships with Virender Sehwag: in 21 innings they average 49.50, with ten partnerships of 50 or more. The reasonable partnerships that they've put together is another reason why Gambhir's relative failures during this period have largely gone unnoticed. (Click here for the full list of openers during this period.)
| Batsman | Tests | Innings | Runs | Average | 100s/ 50s |
| Imrul Kayes | 8 | 16 | 359 | 22.43 | 0/ 1 |
| Phil Hughes | 8 | 15 | 423 | 30.21 | 1/ 1 |
| Gautam Gambhir | 13 | 22 | 669 | 31.85 | 0/ 6 |
| Alviro Petersen | 9 | 17 | 572 | 33.64 | 1/ 3 |
| Mohammad Hafeez | 10 | 20 | 573 | 33.70 | 1/ 3 |
| Andrew Strauss | 18 | 27 | 904 | 34.76 | 1/ 7 |
Ponting's numbers look even worse, compared to the other No.3s during this period. His average of 26.28 compares very poorly with the rest in the table below: the next-lowest average is a highly respectable 42.66, by Pakistan's Azhar Ali.
| Batsman | Tests | Innings | Runs | Average | 100s/ 50s |
| Ricky Ponting | 12 | 22 | 552 | 26.28 | 0/ 5 |
| Azhar Ali | 14 | 27 | 1024 | 42.66 | 1/ 10 |
| Rahul Dravid | 18 | 30 | 1245 | 44.46 | 5/ 3 |
| Jonathan Trott | 16 | 24 | 1291 | 64.55 | 4/ 5 |
| Kumar Sangakkara | 14 | 25 | 1606 | 69.82 | 6/ 6 |
| Hashim Amla | 11 | 18 | 1177 | 78.46 | 6/ 2 |
Bravo v Lara
The similarities in batting style had been written about long before Darren Bravo made his international debut - the batting stance of both Lara and Bravo, their trigger movements, their flourish with they drive the ball, are all uncannily similar. Now, after 12 Test matches, it turns out that the number of runs they've scored, and their averages, are also exactly the same - 941 runs at 47.05. Bravo has played two more innings, but has also been unbeaten twice, to Lara's none. Both also have eight fifty-plus scores, though the split of hundreds to fifties is slightly different.
The one major difference in the numbers is the balls faced, and hence their strike rates. Lara's is 62; Bravo's is 47.14. In terms of balls faced, Bravo has played 479 more deliveries to score the same number of runs as Lara had after 12 Tests. Both have almost the same number of boundary runs too - Lara has the edge by four runs - though their boundary methods are quite different: Lara had struck only three sixes at that stage of his career, while Bravo already has 17. Another difference is the kind of opposition, and the kind of conditions, that they have encountered in their first 12 Tests: Bravo has played at home and in the subcontinent, while Lara had a full five-Test series in Australia, where he flourished, scoring his first hundred - a glorious 277, no less - and three fifties.
| Innings | Runs | Average | Balls faced | Strike rate | 100s/ 50s | 4s/ 6s | Boundary runs | |
| Brian Lara | 20 | 941 | 47.05 | 1517 | 62.03 | 1/ 7 | 119/ 3 | 494 |
| Darren Bravo | 22 | 941 | 47.05 | 1996 | 47.14 | 2/ 6 | 97/ 17 | 490 |
Their ODI numbers aren't that dissimilar either. Bravo's played 31 so far, and averages 31.54 at a strike rate of almost 73; Lara's average after 31 was slightly higher, but his strike rate was only 67.18. By the time his career ended, Lara had pushed it up to 79.51, at an average of 40.48. More importantly, Lara maintained these numbers over 299 ODIs, and an international career that straddled more than 16 years. If Bravo's career stretches as long, West Indies cricket, and indeed world cricket, will be well served.
| Innings | Runs | Average | Strike rate | 100s/ 50s | |
| Brian Lara | 31 | 991 | 34.17 | 67.18 | 0/ 9 |
| Darren Bravo | 28 | 757 | 31.54 | 72.71 | 0/ 5 |
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One of the reasons why people are so happy to see Bravo.. He not only reminds of Lara, rather he is so much Lara while batting that most fans have started calling him Junior Lara.. We are so thankful for him having come and show his Lara-esque play.. Each cricket fan in the world wishes to see Bravo play long and long.. The longer he plays, the more Lara we see.. Sorry Bravo for the pressure!! But thanks so much for being here!!!
Posted by cool2cool on (November 20, 2011, 18:35 GMT)@RandyOZ: You said that the state of Indian cricket is terrible at the moment. What stats are you referring to? India was never 21/9 and dismissed for 47. Isn't it embarrassing?
Posted by cool2cool on (November 20, 2011, 18:30 GMT)@RandyOZ: If Ponting is the best batsman since Bradman, why he has only one hundred in last 45 test innings? And why he has not performed consistently in sub-continent especially in India in tests. Isn't that embarrassing?
Posted by@RandyOZ. Don't mix apples with oranges. Yes, comparing Gambhir with Ponting is totally out of place. But comparing Tendulkar with Ponting is not. I can't believe that you have not watched Sachin play -- so, it has to be some kind of allergy you seem to have developed. 'Sachinitis'? See a specialist. Get well soon. We need your occasional inputs to brighten up dull matches. I also want you back, because both of us also suffer from a delightful "Pom-bashinitis", as some of our earlier posts indicate!
Posted by V.in.U on (November 20, 2011, 15:46 GMT)Youngest Indian to play all 3 formats comfortablly.He is a match winner in 2007 T-20 final scoring 75, 2010 WC final scoring 97 and also had many vital patnerships with shewag in the test which helped india to be at the top for 2years.
Posted byyop,,,it hs been rather unfruitful walking in classical form for Gmbhir,,,and equally agree tht he has been able to deflect the attention to his splendid run in limited version success...bt i wouldn't been worried abt this purple patch,,,since he often has been able to get a partnership with the other partner at the start and that is what much needed...in recent two test series he played a good hand in giving india a solid start...the problem with him is tht he gets out when it looks like he is set to score it big,,,and often gives opposition his wicket from nowhere....
Posted by RandyOZ on (November 20, 2011, 6:05 GMT)It's embarassing when Indians compare Gambhir and Sachin with Ponting. He has been the best batsman since Bradman. The state of Indian and English cricket is terrible at the moment. Soon it will be like the tri nations were i only the Southern Hemisphere competes.
Posted byWonderful guy, reminds me of my all time favorite maestro. Bravo!!!
Posted by kentjones on (November 19, 2011, 8:32 GMT)Indded for young Bravo to have generated such comparison with the great BCLara is paying Bravo the greatest of compliments. Lara certainly will always stand out as one of the greatest batsmen of all time. Whilst his records are written in histroy for all to peruse, it will be quite difficult to describe the thrill and excitement his batting generated to anyone who has not physically seen the master at work. Lara had the the ability to create sheer magic as a batsman, with him at the crease one knew that the impossible was indeed possible . He could turn proceeedings from dull to exciting with a nonchlant flick of the wrist, or a ballet like dance down the pitch or an exquisite forward drive or cut that despatched the ball hurriedly to its inevitable destination and moved the onlookers into literal states of frenzy. The most remarkable thing about him was at the wicket, evry batting record was at threat and even more remakable he could continue such onslaugt for a very long time.
Posted by Vnott on (November 19, 2011, 7:49 GMT)Gambhir is an aggressive opener and a terrific foil to Sehwag. Though he had a bad patch combined with injuries in the last 18 months and remember after a terrific 70+ average period in 2009... but signs are he is fit and getting back into his old consistent runs. If he keeps himself fit,he could clearly be among the best in world cricket. Look at the stats below. They talk for themselves.
Type No Inn NO Runs HS Avg Strike 100s 50s Tests 43 77 5 3464 206 48.11 52.78 9 17 ODIs 119 115 11 4286 150*41.21 86.58 9 27 T20Is 23 22 0 621 75 28.22 124.20 0 6