India's dismal showing in the first two Tests in Australia January 8, 2012

'Drop VVS and get Rohit'

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In the aftermath of India's defeats in Melbourne and Sydney, several former players expressed their views on what the team must do for the third Test in Perth, and for the future

"I would still drop VVS [Laxman] and get Rohit [Sharma] in for next Test. Makes long-term sense. Give Virat [Kohli] one more Test ... just to be sure he does not belong here. VVS averages 20 in last 12 overseas innings. Even if he gets a good score in next Test, it will not serve India long. Also if Virat, before the tour, was India's next big thing, should he not get more than two Tests on his first stint in Australia?"
Commentator and former India batsman, Sanjay Manjrekar. Here's more from Manjrekar.

"I think the left-arm spinner [Pragyan Ojha] could come in and do well. He's a good bowler and he's ready, and Ashwin obviously hasn't bowled well. I thought Umesh Yadav bowled very well in Melbourne, so you can't leave him out after one bad Test match, and he had bowled very well previous to that. It was probably just one of those Test matches for him." Former India captain, Sourav Ganguly

"A line-up may look brilliant on paper, but whether it's the best or not depends how it fares on the given day. Retirement is something a player should understand. But if you are not performing and the team isn't winning, your past laurels shouldn't help you retain a berth."
Kapil Dev, former India captain and allrounder

"We can't always think short-term. We need to start building a team as well. Sachin [Tendulkar] still has the class, Rahul [Dravid] is very hard working but I am not sure how long Laxman will be able to continue. You can't phase out all the three seniors at a time. You have to do that gradually. The youngsters will learn only in the company of the seniors."
Anshuman Gaekwad, former India opener and coach

"I would play both Virat and Rohit in Perth. You should let Virat play. He should be given more chances. If you drop him now, he will not enjoy his cricket anymore."
Kiran More, former India wicketkeeper and former selector

"I am sure many in this team now must be fearful of their future. Many don't have the back-foot play to ride over the pace, bounce and movement of these tracks. Nor do they have the patience to let deliveries outside off stump go harmlessly to the keeper ... the visitors need to break the mould in which they presently are trapped. Do they need to go for a change of personnel? They do. Rohit Sharma must be given an opportunity.
Ravi Shastri, commentator and former India allrounder

"The pendulum has shifted. Indian cricket must be bold and be prepared to lose with younger players. Let them learn the ropes. There is no point losing with declining giants."
Maninder Singh, former India offspinner

"The bitter truth is that we don't have new champion players who can take up the mantle. We might have left the best behind. We've been spoilt by success in the past 10-12 years. The big batting guns have long covered up other shortcomings but they are nearing the end. The increased dependence on Tendulkar after more than two decades is a sign of poverty."
Dilip Vengsarkar, former India captain and former chairman of selectors

"If you need to, play Dravid lower down and give the future No. 3 a go, maybe [Cheteshwar] Pujara. Play [Virender] Sehwag lower down if need be. Nothing is set in stone. We not only lack spirit and attitude but also the skill to adjust our technique. Our captain desperately needs ideas too."
Former India opener Chetan Chauhan

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  • MVRMurty on January 11, 2012, 20:21 GMT

    Againast Australia and in Australia a team like India needs 2 experienced and 2 fresh/young batsmen and similarly 2 senior and 2 young bowlers. We had Virat Kohli and all the 5 Senior batsmen(Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Sehwag and Gautam) which is incredible on paper but not in reality. Similarly in bowling we had Zaheer and all the young bowlers. Essentially Indian team management was very confident that the batting line is going to demolish the struggling Aussie side, but it got the better of the Aussie side and demolished the Indian batting which should be a major concern for years to come. We need to play only 3 of those 5 batsmen and get in Parthiv Pate/Pujaral and Rahane to open the batting, definitely have either Rohit or Virat and then 3 of those above mentioned senior players. Similarly in bowling as well we need to have Zaheer and Harbhajan, and Ishant and Yadav. Ahswin could be all-rounder. Not sure if Dhoni is fit to be a captain for test-side but future would decide.

  • on January 11, 2012, 20:04 GMT

    Why not drop Virat, Gambhir, Dhoni, Sehwag and Ashwin (Yes Ashwin bcoz he is playing like a Batsman so we can get a bowler instead of him. Though we don't have any). What they have done in last 10-15 matches. These guys are mad. How can u think about dropping VVS from Test. They should understand if Indian can play Test matches that is bcoz we have VVS and Dravid and Sachin also. If these guys, especially VVS and Dravid, are not playing, then I doubt that we will be a Test team. ICC may revoke our Test status :)

    Funny thing is that people like More, Manjrekar and Gaekwad are providing these silly comments on Laxman :) What a Joke!!!

  • on January 11, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    Sreeram Krishna, ill be polite and say that not a single indian will agree your views. You dont seem to be speaking with the best interests of indian cricket at heart. Sehwag doesnt have the technique to play swing? Wow. Such ignorance.

  • wewanttobatlikesachin on January 11, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    I say for the future of Indian cricket they should move the Rahul, Sachin and VVS down the order and either bring in a young player in the top order, possibly Rahane. India need to develope another solid, realible top order batsmen so Kohli, and Rohit etc don't need to be facing a new ball every innings when Rahul, Sachin and VVS retire. I wouldn't drop VVS, a tall batsman who can deal with bounce at the WACA. My ideal team for the WACA would be 1. Sehwag 2. M. Vijay/Gambhir 3. Rahane/Gambhir 4. Dravid 5. Tendulkar 6. Laxman. If India does ot find another reliable top order batsman, India's woes will continue and Kohli and Rohit will struggle to score runs in the future.

  • TheOnlyEmperor on January 11, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    Its long been said by various Indian commentators that Rohit is the most talented Indian batsman around amongst the "youngsters". I surely would like to see him being given as much a chance as possible instead of seeing him wither away in his prime. I can't help think of Yuvraj being "blocked" by Ganguly when I write this!

  • on January 11, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    it seems that the indian team is based on experience of previous failures...sehwag has scored but he is just bludgeoning the rahane with gambhir...sehwag at one down...dhoni at 4.. tendulkar, dravid,rohit and four fast bowlers... at perth adelaide play ojha...

  • Naresh28 on January 11, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    Drop Sachin? Why he is current top scorer on Indian side. He Played so well in SA. He was poor in England but also scored a 56 and 91 - so where is the logic? Maybe u can say that he is occupying a slot in the team. DHoni, Shewag, Gambhir ,Kholi and Dravid have not done much in this series. He is 38 and facing a pace battery that is amongst the best.

  • downunder81 on January 11, 2012, 0:04 GMT

    At present the kind of situation India is in to remain calm and make changes without making much fuss about it. Inclusion of Rohit Sharma is surely on the cards however the question is who is left out..Is it Laxman or Sehwag ?? Virat Kohli has certainly failed however as tiped by Sanjay Manjeraker he should given another chance at least at Perth. Australia at present is certainly riding high and why not both Hussey and Ponting have tasted blood at sydney and dont be surprized if Punter is planning a counter attack at Ishant sharma who back in 2008 series troubled him with one of the best spell of his life....Let's wait and watch....The series so far hasn't seen good partnership by openers from either side and mind you both sides have already discussed about it....Players to watch OZ..Ponting Hussey Warner...bowling Starc..Harris & from India..Tendulkar, Sehwag,Rohit Sharma..Bowling..Zaheer & Ishant sharma....

  • on January 10, 2012, 22:04 GMT

    To be frank VVS and Sehwag never had technique to play swing blowing. They were able to score runs in past against swing bowling because of their Hand eye coordination was so good to pick up the swing early. But now both are getting old so their hand eye coordination is still not same to play swing. On Flat track where there is no swing they play well with static footmovement. We are only taking chances playing such technique less players in Swinging condition. Instead we need to be strong enough to drop them in such conditions knowing that they are fruitless. That is why VVS failed in England and Sehwag failed in Aus this year. Australia saw India's lack of ability to play swing bowling and then picked all swing bowlers instead of their traditional hit the deck bowlers. I don't think we can do much now, there is no one to replace VVS and Sehwag with decent technique and experience. Rohit has talent but his technique is yet to be tested.

  • BillyCC on January 10, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    The idea of dropping Sehwag is an interesting one. The Sehwag factor is always a critical factor in the opposition thinking and which has served India well over the past years. The past two tests have been great platforms on which Sehwag could have won the first test with a quick half century or saved the second test with a quick century. However, it was not to be and that is the other side of the equation; getting Sehwag out gives the opposition tremendous confidence and relaxes the bowlers; they know the others cannot hurt them with runs scored quicker than anyone else. So with Sehwag, it is high risk and high reward. This is not exactly the time when India need high risk in the long term. So maybe dropping Sehwag isn't so crazy. Of course, you can't drop him 2-nil down in a series, because that is exactly when high risk is needed.

  • MVRMurty on January 11, 2012, 20:21 GMT

    Againast Australia and in Australia a team like India needs 2 experienced and 2 fresh/young batsmen and similarly 2 senior and 2 young bowlers. We had Virat Kohli and all the 5 Senior batsmen(Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Sehwag and Gautam) which is incredible on paper but not in reality. Similarly in bowling we had Zaheer and all the young bowlers. Essentially Indian team management was very confident that the batting line is going to demolish the struggling Aussie side, but it got the better of the Aussie side and demolished the Indian batting which should be a major concern for years to come. We need to play only 3 of those 5 batsmen and get in Parthiv Pate/Pujaral and Rahane to open the batting, definitely have either Rohit or Virat and then 3 of those above mentioned senior players. Similarly in bowling as well we need to have Zaheer and Harbhajan, and Ishant and Yadav. Ahswin could be all-rounder. Not sure if Dhoni is fit to be a captain for test-side but future would decide.

  • on January 11, 2012, 20:04 GMT

    Why not drop Virat, Gambhir, Dhoni, Sehwag and Ashwin (Yes Ashwin bcoz he is playing like a Batsman so we can get a bowler instead of him. Though we don't have any). What they have done in last 10-15 matches. These guys are mad. How can u think about dropping VVS from Test. They should understand if Indian can play Test matches that is bcoz we have VVS and Dravid and Sachin also. If these guys, especially VVS and Dravid, are not playing, then I doubt that we will be a Test team. ICC may revoke our Test status :)

    Funny thing is that people like More, Manjrekar and Gaekwad are providing these silly comments on Laxman :) What a Joke!!!

  • on January 11, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    Sreeram Krishna, ill be polite and say that not a single indian will agree your views. You dont seem to be speaking with the best interests of indian cricket at heart. Sehwag doesnt have the technique to play swing? Wow. Such ignorance.

  • wewanttobatlikesachin on January 11, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    I say for the future of Indian cricket they should move the Rahul, Sachin and VVS down the order and either bring in a young player in the top order, possibly Rahane. India need to develope another solid, realible top order batsmen so Kohli, and Rohit etc don't need to be facing a new ball every innings when Rahul, Sachin and VVS retire. I wouldn't drop VVS, a tall batsman who can deal with bounce at the WACA. My ideal team for the WACA would be 1. Sehwag 2. M. Vijay/Gambhir 3. Rahane/Gambhir 4. Dravid 5. Tendulkar 6. Laxman. If India does ot find another reliable top order batsman, India's woes will continue and Kohli and Rohit will struggle to score runs in the future.

  • TheOnlyEmperor on January 11, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    Its long been said by various Indian commentators that Rohit is the most talented Indian batsman around amongst the "youngsters". I surely would like to see him being given as much a chance as possible instead of seeing him wither away in his prime. I can't help think of Yuvraj being "blocked" by Ganguly when I write this!

  • on January 11, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    it seems that the indian team is based on experience of previous failures...sehwag has scored but he is just bludgeoning the rahane with gambhir...sehwag at one down...dhoni at 4.. tendulkar, dravid,rohit and four fast bowlers... at perth adelaide play ojha...

  • Naresh28 on January 11, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    Drop Sachin? Why he is current top scorer on Indian side. He Played so well in SA. He was poor in England but also scored a 56 and 91 - so where is the logic? Maybe u can say that he is occupying a slot in the team. DHoni, Shewag, Gambhir ,Kholi and Dravid have not done much in this series. He is 38 and facing a pace battery that is amongst the best.

  • downunder81 on January 11, 2012, 0:04 GMT

    At present the kind of situation India is in to remain calm and make changes without making much fuss about it. Inclusion of Rohit Sharma is surely on the cards however the question is who is left out..Is it Laxman or Sehwag ?? Virat Kohli has certainly failed however as tiped by Sanjay Manjeraker he should given another chance at least at Perth. Australia at present is certainly riding high and why not both Hussey and Ponting have tasted blood at sydney and dont be surprized if Punter is planning a counter attack at Ishant sharma who back in 2008 series troubled him with one of the best spell of his life....Let's wait and watch....The series so far hasn't seen good partnership by openers from either side and mind you both sides have already discussed about it....Players to watch OZ..Ponting Hussey Warner...bowling Starc..Harris & from India..Tendulkar, Sehwag,Rohit Sharma..Bowling..Zaheer & Ishant sharma....

  • on January 10, 2012, 22:04 GMT

    To be frank VVS and Sehwag never had technique to play swing blowing. They were able to score runs in past against swing bowling because of their Hand eye coordination was so good to pick up the swing early. But now both are getting old so their hand eye coordination is still not same to play swing. On Flat track where there is no swing they play well with static footmovement. We are only taking chances playing such technique less players in Swinging condition. Instead we need to be strong enough to drop them in such conditions knowing that they are fruitless. That is why VVS failed in England and Sehwag failed in Aus this year. Australia saw India's lack of ability to play swing bowling and then picked all swing bowlers instead of their traditional hit the deck bowlers. I don't think we can do much now, there is no one to replace VVS and Sehwag with decent technique and experience. Rohit has talent but his technique is yet to be tested.

  • BillyCC on January 10, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    The idea of dropping Sehwag is an interesting one. The Sehwag factor is always a critical factor in the opposition thinking and which has served India well over the past years. The past two tests have been great platforms on which Sehwag could have won the first test with a quick half century or saved the second test with a quick century. However, it was not to be and that is the other side of the equation; getting Sehwag out gives the opposition tremendous confidence and relaxes the bowlers; they know the others cannot hurt them with runs scored quicker than anyone else. So with Sehwag, it is high risk and high reward. This is not exactly the time when India need high risk in the long term. So maybe dropping Sehwag isn't so crazy. Of course, you can't drop him 2-nil down in a series, because that is exactly when high risk is needed.

  • on January 10, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    Vengsarkar says "The increased dependence on Tendulkar after more than two decades is a sign of poverty." I wonder how many overseas wins for India that dependency has resulted in? I don't think any one will argue that the best Tendulkar has to show in Tests (not ODIs) is records and longitivity. When has he batted the opposition out of game? When has he played 5-6 sessions to dictate terms? Thats how batsmen win tests or help bowlers to win. BCCI dependency on Tendulkar has only been for the money he can generate. Not wins... So from that perspective, Tendulkar has made BCCI very rich over 20 years. So it is not a sign of poverty at all from money terms. Vengsarkar got it all wrong.

  • on January 10, 2012, 19:21 GMT

    India should drop Sachin and pick up Rohit Sharma in the side as a part of India's rotation policy also Drop Zhaeer. This move will make sure India will lose and then Dhoni can proudly say that 'we are looking into future and we should take these losses'.

  • DaburMan on January 10, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    I just cant believe dada' comments about ashwin - "Drop ashwin , bring in ojha , dont drop yadav coz this is his first series? ". Did ashwin play 100 tests before this game to be dropped after this performance. Too late to get praveen / pathan , Laxman is a hard-drop to bring in R Sharma. Sharma should be in instead of kohli , laxman is still the most feared one by aussies. Move ashwin up the order above dhoni and am pretty sure Dhoni can still bat lower. Any other changes are not practical like pulling in praveen ( rib fracture ) or irfan to play in 3/4th test. Perth is going to be big one for India. The top order already got back the form in last test' 2nd innings. They just have to be patient and tick singles rather than waiting to hit boundaries. If we just keep rotating strikes and hit the bad balls only , we will be able to setup a mammoth total for sure .

  • IndTheBest on January 10, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    Not only we should drop VVS Laxman, we should also change in our batting order. I think Promoting Dravid to openning slot along with Gambhir will solve the problem. Kohli should move to #3, Tendulakar #4, Sehwag#5, Rohit#6. Ashwani should be replaced with another medium pacer.

  • on January 10, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    Gambhir and Kohli need to stay. Gambhir maybe dropped for a while to clear his head, whereas Kohli should be played higher up the order, because he has it in him to step-up, sooner than later. Abhinav Mukund should be drafted in as an opener because I have seen something in him in England that says he is going to be worth a long rope. Rohit, Pujara and Rahane should get a look-in soon. Ishant has to bowl better than that, given the fast-bowler prerequisites he already possesses. The only person I am not able to put a pulse on is Ashwin. I am not able to say anything or suggest anything about him. I don't know if he will really flourish with the ball in the long-run. With the bat he is handy, though.

  • on January 10, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    People talk of dropping Sehwag. But is Laxman as big a game-changer as Sehwag is? Can Laxman bowl the handy overs Sehwag does sometimes to provide relief to our main attack? Can Laxman pull off some of the decent catches and diving saves that even the bulky Sehwag manages to? Does Laxman have more time on his side than Sehwag has as far as age is concerned? More importantly, does Laxman have the ability to even notch up his agility on the field and can he improve his reflexes and hand-eye co-ordination to the level that Sehwag will possess for at least another couple of years? We can be grateful for the match-saving and match-winning knocks Laxman has played over the past, but how ridiculous it is to deny that age has started taking its toll on the great man! How easily we are going blind to the almost nil value-addition provided by Laxman! Therefore, Laxman has to be the first one to GO.

  • Nirad50500 on January 10, 2012, 12:03 GMT

    Drop v v s Laxman & pick Rohit, he deserve it , If both opener are not getting runs, why not put ASHWIN in place of gambhir ( he is doing well with bat in lower order ),& u wiil get an extra man (either Laxman Or a boller) in eleven

  • yaa_right on January 10, 2012, 12:03 GMT

    I say drop BCCI officials after this series!!! Ask Sharad Powar to appoint some young pitch curators at some indian test venues - they should have prior gardening experience - to grow grass on pitches as required; prepare fast bouncy pitches. Make sure these curators don't have any past tar/concrete road-laying skills/experience. we have had enough of such type till now, whom we can use for IPL and ODIs. Then Play home tests and see the results (fast bowling, batting) for an year. Then appoint some young BCCI officials.

  • on January 10, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    Not only is Sanjay very poor at analyzing, but also very biased. Kohli has been a big success in ODIs, but look at him in Tests. He's proving that his time has not yet come for the real cricket. Rohit, without doubt is a great talent and has done well in the recent ODIs. But, does that assure anyone that he'll do well in tests? Laxman is our best batsman, when it comes to playing Aussies. I wonder why all these former players are after VVS! Kris Srikanth may want to bring in the entire TN team and play in the next test. After all, he's not the first one to think along those lines!

  • yaa_right on January 10, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    @asadadek, no we won't ever change. somethings never change. so stop worrying about that and relax :) none of the players/cricket-staff/bcci-guys are going to read these 800+ comments; only ppl who are somewhat emotional, who want to pass/waste some time, like u, me and cricinfo staff (for screening the comments - not timewaste) may read these.

  • on January 10, 2012, 10:16 GMT

    I think Shewag should be dropped from the playing XI . Period.

  • on January 10, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    The above link gives the true reasons for these comments

  • on January 10, 2012, 10:01 GMT

    when sachin,dravid and vvs retires from test cricket.enough is enough bcci see our future or past.our batting super on only papers.srilanka is best than India at least they win single test v/s S.A. In S.A. i think our team like 1-Rahane 2-Akash Chopra 3-Dravid 4-sachin 5-Pujara 6-R.Sharma 7-P.Patel or Naman Oza 8-Zaheer 9-P.Kumar 10-Ashwin 11-Irfan

  • P.Chandrasekar on January 10, 2012, 9:29 GMT

    Inclusion of Rohit is not a bad idea but not at the expense of a Very Very Specialist of the Test match.

  • on January 10, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    rohit replace in kohli place....kohli is not suitfor test cricket...... vvs laxman is a stylish batsman in cricket.....

  • on January 10, 2012, 7:21 GMT

    People just forgot Pujara. He's frustratingly warming up the bench. Unfortunately, he has to wait until Dravid or Laxman retires. He would have lost two or three valuable years by then. Sad state of affairs.

  • Liontamer on January 10, 2012, 6:59 GMT

    I was one of the ones that posted to drop Laxman, but after going back and watching Laxman's 2nd inning of the second test, I must say, he actually looked pretty solid and got out to a peach of a delivery from Hilfenhous. Exact same peach of a delivery that undid Dravid. So I say keep VVS. But I think some one needs to sit out so Rohit and Ohja can play. I say let Sehwag and Ishanth sit this one out. Sehwag just looks bothered by the ball movement and is playing loose shots and Ishanth isn't as effective with his ankle taped up. Dhoni gets a free pass because we need a proper keeper to support the spinners, and frees dravid to stay focused on his batting. . But, I think it's time For Dhoni to take a more active role in batting and may be open the innings with Gambhir.

  • on January 10, 2012, 6:59 GMT

    The selectors should have atleast selected Wasim Jaffer and Cheteshwar Pujara in place of Kohli and Rohit Sharma! That would have given us something to think in place of Dravid/Laxman. Right now for the PERTH Test, I would not play either Kohli or Rohit!! Laxman and Dravid are players with skill and temperament that Kohli and Rohit lack!! I would instead go with Abhimanyu Mithun in place of Kohli and try and attack Australia!

  • Vnott on January 10, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    Yes Virat is the next best thing. but he is not performing even on a batting wicket - 2nd innings in Melbourne. He needs time and will do well. Rohit for Virat is the only logical decision. Mithun for Ashwin may be discussed. I doubt if Dhoni will make that call especially given that Ashwin has batted well and has bowled equally well or badly as the others did. We need to remember day 2, 3 , 4 is always a batting beauty. Deciding to bat first and batting badly in first innings was the issue. Desperate measures will only result in failure nothing else. Only one change Rohit for Virat expected. India shd bat second. First day disciplined bowling will bring India into the game.

  • on January 10, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    Players of the likes of Murali Vijay, Wasim Jaffer, Cheteshwar Pujara, S Badrinath are true Test match players. We need an Akash Chopra for tours to top teams like England, SA and Australia. Fast bowling has always been our weakness. So much so that we have accepted the fact that we cannot produce genuine fast bowlers who can get opposition out twice. Given this situation we need to work on our strength which is batting and continue to improve on our weakness (fast bowling) to be able to compete in alien conditions. Dhoni too has become very lackadaisical. I think a change is Test captaincy would be a good move. I think time has come when Dhoni himself does not warrant a place in Test side.

  • on January 10, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    Indian Cricket Players should be given a chance to play in big bash series, then they can cope up atleast something with the pitches there.

  • on January 10, 2012, 4:06 GMT

    drop dhoni and get a player who has positve state of mind being aggressive as a captain not the cool sttate of mind he has done yet as a batsman in test match

  • PraveenK on January 10, 2012, 3:07 GMT

    I would say Sanjay Manjrekar is a very poor analyzer of the game...I remember Sanjay got so many chances and finally selectors fed up with him(In the process we lost so many matches). Bottomline is WIN, I would say drop Kohil (got enough chances already) and include Rohit in final XI.

  • on January 10, 2012, 2:38 GMT

    All the Indian are very much worried of the big 3's retirement. However, Ponting, Hussey, Kallis, Sangakara, Jaywardane are also getting older. but nobody are not talking their retirement as they are performing well. If 3 is performing well, why people are trying to force them. Again, may be only indian people are too much worried senior players retirement. Very sad, Shame to all indian critics.

  • indianpunter on January 10, 2012, 2:12 GMT

    The response to this post is testament that the indian cricket fan loves his test cricket. bravo ! My 2 cents. we need to get 20 wickets on a seaming track. Bring in Mithun and Sharma, for VVS and Kohli. Play Ashwin as an all rounder. He looked the most comfortable against the pace attack ( bar sachin). We need to be pro active and think outside the box.

  • on January 10, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    People who are talking about dropping Sachin are clueless/brainless. You want him to win matches when others are doing nothing.

  • on January 10, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    how about dropping sachin , at least then whole team will focus on playing match not the century of sachin

  • sfo_novato on January 9, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    rohit in place of vvs, rahane in place of viru, ojha in place of ashwin for the perth test. worth a try.

  • india_ipl_fan on January 9, 2012, 22:31 GMT

    I don't think the solution lies in cutting and chopping the present team. If our so called best cant do it, its only a chance that the newbies will. Ofcourse the only intention of the change would be to give them invaluable experience. I would still ask the million dollar question from ages, why cant we create bouncy pitches at home for domestic competition?!! Is it rocket science that only the Aussies, Kiwis and Springboks know?? If indeed it is, BCCI definitely has the money to buy this science, ofcourse if they have the will and vision to do it, rather than keep filling their coffers with sugar coated wins for Indian teams at home...

  • Naresh28 on January 9, 2012, 22:27 GMT

    SERIOUSILY - INDIA has a problem at batting pos 1,2,6 and 7. The batsman at 3,4,5 are are set,experienced and technically good. We also need an extra bowler. For Perth we need a tall batsman - so Rohit for Kohli. It would not be good to tinker with the openers mid-series. Retain the bowlers as the bench strength no good. In future 1 and 2 need to be groomed for that specialist role. Coach needs to work on Shewag and Gambhir for this test. Changes to seniors after this series.

  • charlie2921972 on January 9, 2012, 22:24 GMT

    The hype of Sachin' 100th century paving way for India's poor performance in first two test drop him for the remaining tests so rest of team members will have no other excuse but to perform well in order to square the series.

  • on January 9, 2012, 22:23 GMT

    Why shouldn't we drop Virat Kohli. He has played 9 overseas innings in last year and has average of below 14. For that matter shouldn't we also talk about dropping Viru. 8 overseas innings in last year with average below 19. Add Gambhir to list too. Let people find their form on venues other than test. 5 tests are long enough for a lean period. There are players who are waiting for their turns. Rahane, Pujara, Rohit to name a few. I just realized that I named all the Delhi batters and I am from Delhi!

  • on January 9, 2012, 22:22 GMT

    In my opinion, we should also think of a good opener as well now. What is Sehwag doing now-a-days; he just flashes at everything whether it is worth it or not. It would be a good idea to keep him exclusively for one-dayers now. But, yes, one thing worth noticing is that 99% of our players have lost their batting prowess after they got married. Has anyone else noticed this? So, does it mean that they should not get married? Just a question.

  • on January 9, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    A final say on this - the BCCI should show leadership as well. As such before the next match the chairman/ executive should dictate that any player not performing will be banned from the IPL for 1 year to a maximum of 3 years. Hit them where it hurts - in their pockets - maybe they will learn that way. The BCCI should also set minimum standards for fitness (e.g. time taken to do 100m, etc.), written down and published, which all players (including "seniors") have to meet or they will be out of the match. Also BCCI should stop nepotism and get a certain senior batsman to send his son home. If the BCCI does this, they may surprising find that the Indian team will "click". Let the BCCI enforce this before the start of the next match.

  • dmqi on January 9, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    over 800 comment, is this a record? Yes, IPL. hit or miss T20 and aging giants and most importantly BCCI's arrogance all contributing to this poor performance. What will be India's test ranking in 2012, 5 or 6?

  • on January 9, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    Shewag should also be dropped from the next match until he learns the virtue of control and patience. Dhoni should attend a boot-camp until he learns the meaning of leadership. Gambir be warned he will be out of the Indian team in the next match unless he also learns how to play on a bouncy wicket. Test cricketers should be kept penalized for under-performing by having their IPL contracts. Job done - greed taken out of the picture or at least balanced.

  • on January 9, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    Poor approach to the game and no clear thinking is a major reason behind the downfall of Indian cricket. We go overboard with a single victory and push the ticking bomb under the carpet. Playing 2 spinners in India Vs WI even after wining the series is that the best preparation for Aus series. The BCCI and team management is clearly clueless, looking at the dismissals of Indian batsmen in this series and in Eng the chink in technique is evident. If every batsman is getting out the same way in each and every match, then it goes to show that the opponent has figured the shortcomings in tech and are exploiting it. Instead of resolving the issues the team is out on stress relieving exercises. Clearly this team has no future given the current dearth of imagination and management.

  • on January 9, 2012, 20:13 GMT

    Drop any-one. But get Ajinkya Rahane & Rohit Sharma in the team.

  • Gattu.Vinod on January 9, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    I am surprised everyone is talking about dropping VVS no one is talking about Sehwag, does Sehwag belong to test cricket.I know people will talk about his avg 40+ something, but when you are playing test cricket its not important scoring 40 runs in 20 balls.Its important to play a session or 2 and score 40+ runs, that is the way to win or save a test.Sehwag's,avg is worse on foreign soil. Dhoni, should not be a test captain he is good only for ODI's.Indians are playing too much of IPL and ODIs,they really don't have the attitude to play test cricket. The current team does not have the class and technically strong players except for Tendulkar,VVS and Dravid.Its really frustrating to see the way our test cricket is shaping over the past few years.

    INDIA should win test matches on foreign soil if they really are world champions.

  • Nampally on January 9, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    Dropping Laxman will not solve India's bowling problems.. This is another distraction. Bowling is strocious.Address it first. No team on earth can win a match when it captures just one wicket for 620 runs. India cannot win without capturing 20 wkts.If India has a better bowling the discussion on improving batting is meaningful. But first the bowling has to be grossly imporoved. I am shocked to see so much futile discussion. Srikant & Dhoni are deliberatly misleadingeveryone & fooling themselves. Dinda, Irfan Pathan & R.Singh all have done well in taking Ranji this year.Fly these guys for Perth test.That is the real answer. These ex- India cricketer, Sanjay & Co. should focus on bowling - not batting.How can you even talk about batting let alone replacing individuals?Vinay & Mithun are sub standard & even if they play they cannot take wkts.Only answer fly in the replacements - BCCI & the Selectors.

  • sfo_novato on January 9, 2012, 19:47 GMT

    rohit in place of vvs, pujara in place of viru, ojha in place of ashwin for the perth test and bring back these players for the last test. may be painful to make this happen but would be worth a try ?

  • SantoshGhirnikar on January 9, 2012, 19:35 GMT

    In my opinion India is going to be whitewashed regardless of what they do. In that scenario, where is the harm in dropping VVS and bringing in RS to baptize him. Yes, he likely will fail but will gain invaluable experience. Also, with the BCCI sitting on millions of dollars, they should pay CA and ECB a substantial amount of money to induce them to let an Indian A team play in their domestic tournament. In one fell swoop we expose our talented youngsters to bouncy tracks and the swinging ball. Now that is long term planning.

  • InnocentGuy on January 9, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    I sincerely hope that Laxman, Dravid and Sachin play at Perth and hit centuries - I don't even care if India doesn't win the match. I just want these self-proclaimed 'experts' and 'greats' to stfu.

  • cricindia4life on January 9, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    Having said the stuff I did about the average Indian cricket fan (if Cricinfo ended up publishing that), I do agree that changes need to be made. I am not talking about changes to the batting line-up. I am a strong believer of putting forth the BEST XI for any given test match. The scenario is different for ODIs where building for the future (or the next world-cup) is important. But for test matches, every match should be played by the best eleven players, regardless of age. The changes I am talking about need to come at the domestic level. Conditions in India are such that batting is really easy. So naturally when you go to conditions where the batsmen would be challenged more, they are going to struggle. So creating more sporting pitches in India would be my #2 priority. The #1 priority is improving the overall fitness of our players, especially that of bowlers. That has been the main problem with our bowling attack.

  • on January 9, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    @ amit.agarwal - very well said!! Totally agree with you!!!

  • InnocentGuy on January 9, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    WoW! Sanjay says "Give Virat [Kohli] one more Test ... just to be sure he does not belong here". Really? So he already concludes that he doesn't belong here and just wants to 'be sure'? How on Earth can he even think he is qualified to make such statements? Ashwin, on his current batting form alone, needs to be there, if not for anything else, at least for saving the batting from utter disgrace. Seriously, he is the only one who's batted with any sort of consistency. If anyone is to be dropped, I'd hope it's Sehwag - he's not played his role for a long long time, longer than even Gambhir. We desperately need a stronger middle order and I would hope that they move Sehwag out to make way for another classical batsmen. Sachin or Dravid can open and we can't do any worse because with Gambhir and/or Sehwag getting out early, these two have pretty much played the part of openers in the last few months anyway.

  • on January 9, 2012, 19:03 GMT

    The basic drawback of Indian team is lack of determination.These players have proved their potentials in past and can do it in future but the commitment lacks.Injecting new blood in like of R.Sharma is good choice but what will happen if he fail?Indian batters need to find their patience and technique to handle pace attack.Shuffling in a set team is not a good idea for a team which is already in den.Bowlers have to find the exact channel of offstick rather than legstamp.If they do so India can come out with a better show...hope for the best rather than blaming the players.....

  • on January 9, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    At the moment there is no particular role for Dhoni in the team apart from wicket keeping, first of all Dhoni should get some runs, Tendulkar is still the run machine and he is not getting any help from any one. There is no guarantee for runs or safe opening roles at least for 30 overs with Sewang or Ghambhir so why you want to use them against a world class pace attack. They can only help Aussies get early wickets and boost confidence. So drop them down the order and they will make runs. simply they dont have the fire power to play current Australian pace attack. Kholi and Rohit should bat above Dravid and Laxman. Only Tendulkar deserve a place in the top order slot. Drop either Gambir or Laxman and consider Rahane. Please remember the spinner in the Australian team also done nothing in this series as Ashwin,, must be something to do with the fast pitches. Youngsters in the top batting order with Tendulkar is the only way out for India in Australia. With bowling even Dhoni can bowl

  • CiMP on January 9, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    Can one be heard after 790 have spoken? Lol! I say, play the same XI next two Tests. You cant change horses midstream. Plus this is a collective failure which has its roots in BCCI's approach to Tests ever sine 1983. Long term cancers cannot be cured by just otc placebos. Let this series take its own course. Start a revamp from the top - at BCCI level - after Adelaide.

  • on January 9, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    Sanjay Manjrekar that played 37 tests with a test average of 37 and a strike rate of 38 is not qualified to comment on an such Laxman for this series and decide the future of Laxman only after the seriesa superb batsman.Better drop Virat instead o

  • on January 9, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    I think it was wrong to give Kohli chance to play ahead of Rohit. Kohli doesn't have that much exposure in 4-day format. He is a fantastic ODI/T-20 player. No doubt about it. But I have seen his test performances in WI as wel as Aus. At this time, he doesn't have the experience or the skill to survive at this level. I am sure that given the time to play more Ranji matches(one or two season) or play county or tour with emerging players tournament across countries, he would be succesful. But dont directly test him at Test level as he is not ready yet. Apart from that the main culprit behind the failure has been the inconsistent starts that we are getting. Gambhir is averaging 29 (w/o Bdesh stats) in last 2 years and has consolation century against Bdesh. I would probably allow him one more match before getting Rahane in his place for the last match. Apart from that Rohit in for Virat and Vinay/Ojha for Ashwin. Go all in on the bowling unit. Ojha is a improved player for his county season

  • on January 9, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    lets forget about test cricket, about class, about patience, about men in whites. Lets talk about ipl, mindless hitting, ever shorter boundaries, cheerleaders in bikinis. Way to go Indian cricket.

  • torsha on January 9, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    Well dropping VVS will not solve the problems here. But some decisions need to make. Pujara, Mukund, Rahane, Rohit, Aaron, Shreesanth should given chance in test matches after they will make strong decision to drop some of the current team players. Ishant certainly not deserve the place here. He's not learning from his mistakes. I dare to say here to take Bhajji here, but not saying to drop Ashwin. Well I hope they should understand Irfan should have been good choice instead of Ishant. For now, we have to just wait and see.

  • mrmonty on January 9, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Going by the wisdom displayed in the topic, we Must Drop Tendulkar (the highest scorer from India and 4th highest from either teams), because he is selfish in wanting to stay on the pitch and score some runs. The typically selfless players like Dravid, Laxman, Gambhir (both of whom don't know where their off-stump is), Sehwag (who does not know where the gully fielder is) and Kohli (who does not know what playing across on a seaming pitch means) must be persisted with.

  • on January 9, 2012, 17:50 GMT

    Though VVS Laxman deserved to be dropped instead of Virat Kohli to make way for Rohit, but it is not a good idea in the middle of the series.Because that will put more pressure on Rohit if he replaces a senior pro like Laxman.Better drop Virat instead of Laxman for this series and decide the future of Laxman only after the series.

  • mahe_28 on January 9, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    Anyway you are going to loose the third match, time to do rotation basis for the seniors. Let us give a change to the young team, rohit should be given a change. We are not sure when Shewag/Lakshman will get out. The young players should be advised to bat more than 100 balls (if they face 100 balls, the next target is 200 balls, make their bowlers to feel "tired" - don't worry about score). Drop Ashwin, Ishant. Bring Ohja, Irfan. By the way, what is the so called "think tank" doing?

  • hhillbumper on January 9, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    reading through these it points out an interesting trait.Individuals are so hero worshipped that they come to believe the hagiography.Maybe if you concentrate on Team India then you might move forwards.just a suggestion but having seen India up close in Uk this summer the last thing you would call them is a team.They just gave it up in the end.

  • rsurya on January 9, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    Waiting for IPL5, afterall cricket is entertainment and IPL serves it to the fullest. All I advice for players is, don't get injured in this useless tour and stay out during IPL.

  • on January 9, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    I would rather suggest to have ROHIT in for KOHLI who seems to be unstable for a month...Rohit who had had a good punch on his return will be able prove his worth against the MIGHTY AUSSIES...Moreover India's Bowling side has a lot to Prove on Australia pitches...Umesh & Zak are doing a good job with the ball...Me think its not fair to go for a change of bowling side as far as WACA pitch is concerned ....a bouncy track....Ishant has got a point to prove in this TEST...

  • aravabalaji on January 9, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    I wonder whether Sanjay would have the same words for Sachin if he goes through such a bad patch. Compared to Sachin, Laxman played many number of match-winning/saving innings and there is nobody to match his back-foot play. If Sachin & Dravid can choose their retirement day, so as Laxman. @Raj12345 - Nice to see atleast one soul remembering Badrinath. It is a pity that Dhoni, with such a (pyro?)technic is playing Tests whereas Badri is still lanquishing. Such a mad commercial world!

  • BALAJIGADAM on January 9, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    Why to drop Laxman? instead drop DHONI - he is of no use in the team. Check past records when did dhoni hit like a bastsmen? poor batting style .... Even bowler also doesnt play like DHONI???

  • rajat-column on January 9, 2012, 17:15 GMT

    Get Irfan Pathan in for Virat Kohli as it will give India an extra bowler and more than useful lower order batsman who can open the batting also in case any opener is injured or out of form as it was the case in 2008 when he opened the batting for India on fastest pitch of the world i.e. Perth and he did reasonably well and became Man of the match.

  • asadadek on January 9, 2012, 17:11 GMT

    Amazing to read the comments. Seems people from AP want VVS to play forever. I am sure people from Karnataka want Dravid to hang on forever and ditto for SRT and people from Maharashtra. Why this extra sympathy for players from one's own state. Are we going to ever change?

  • PradeepR on January 9, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    Sanjay Manjrekar that played 37 tests with a test average of 37 and a strike rate of 38 is not qualified to comment on any batsman in the Indian team. Sometime ago he is the one that wanted Sachin out of the team.

    @Akhil Sharma - You are crazy if you want Jaffer (33 yrs) and Chopra in the team. Pujara is injured. None of these and Irfan could be played since they are not even in the squad.

    People asking for Irfan Pathan in the test team are more than crazy. He is neither a very good bowler nor a batsman. Let him try ODIs and T20s first.

  • Sreedharan on January 9, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    Let Laxman retire but after the Aus series. He should get another chance considering his reputation against Aus. I do not know any other player who has played so well against worlds all time best test team(stewagh's X1). He deserves his place as long as he wants to play and he performs well. You guys should understand one more thing Indian Cricket Team is not the govt property and they are by no way representing India as a country. It is just a Team owned by BCCI. We do not need to cry so much if it looses one match. Lax has entertained us in the best possible way by playing the best cricket(in the sense under pressure and against quality bowling) I have ever seen. Kohili has Class but as I said he needs training, you cant expect to get trained playing against Aus. They will get you OUT in no time,we have seen in the last few games. First study the basic technique required to survive then play against Aus, only then he can learn. Kohili and Rohit Sharma are going to be Ind's Future

  • naga2345 on January 9, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    "I would still drop VVS [Laxman] and get Rohit [Sharma] in for next Test. Makes long-term sense. Give Virat [Kohli] one more Test ... just to be sure he does not belong here. VVS averages 20 in last 12 overseas innings. Even if he gets a good score in next Test, it will not serve India long. Also if Virat, before the tour, was India's next big thing, should he not get more than two Tests on his first stint in Australia?" This is what manjrekar is saying to batsman of laxman who performs when there is a panic in dressing room.Name a player who performs under pressure other than dhoni. name one player who will decide the match with tailenders. Its highly attrocious lack of vision and and poor judgment who have no credit to indian cricket. absoultely attrocious and had no busiseness to talk about laxman who simgle handedly won home series againist Australia and won a test match in srilanka and such shot term memory he should better not to judge about laxman..

  • S.Jagernath on January 9, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Virat Kohli & VVS Laxman need to sit out,with Ajinkya Rahane & Rohit Sharma taking over #5 & #6.VVS Laxman should have retired after the England performance,after this tour he will have the chance to go to India & find "form".He needs to be dropped.Rahul Dravid & Sachin Tendulkar need to consider retirement before the end of 2012,they are performing well but need to go soon!

  • on January 9, 2012, 16:50 GMT

    The fact is the team that we have out there is the best that we have right now...all this talk of dropping laxman and getting youngsters in is extremely unfair..age should NEVER be a criterion,never ever;it is performance alone..look at virat he having tremendous success??...has rohit been so outstanding that people think it is such a big mistake to play laxman??...the team should be based on form and merit alone;i think this is the best that we have right now...i don't think rohit or anyone else would have done any better, based on their past performances which are nowhere better than laxman's, dravid's or sachin's..and especially against this aussie team. Dhoni, i don't know about his defensive fields, but then again i think he has enough support staff to let him know what he is doing, and he is the best we have;the fact is australia are playing much better cricket than us;the indians have to do three things better..batting,bowling and fielding..that's all there is to it..

  • on January 9, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    Candidates for dropping to end the losing streak - 1. IPL 2. Tight schedule for players 3. BCCI decision makers.

    Then see how Team India can perform - Cheers!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 16:00 GMT

    Drop virat instead of VVS an bring in Rohit drop aswin and bring ojha in i think this one will help because we have already lost the series better we can give chance to other players and test them in the overseas pitch

  • perthroy123 on January 9, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    Why VVS Laxman all who crossed 35 should retire.....bydway ghambir will be a better test captain.....than dhoni take raina, rohit and manoj tiwary instead of our supper star 3 laxman dravid and tendulkar.....tendulkar is just playing for his 100 th 100 shame its so visible now n if some1 says that he scored 80 then i will say what a big deal hussey made 150 in that pitch.....we sould hone our bowlers now as with limited encouragement they got at our home matches they atleast performed proportional to our so called star batsmen.....n if ne1 is shouting that kohli is not fit for test then my dear friend see his age and experience.....give him chance...let loose full series with 10 new faces than get ashamed with our stalwart's selfish displays.....

  • Sreedharan on January 9, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    When someone says Drop Laxman they should try to remember the fact that India was the only Team which have troubled Australia during their peak time. Also how many Test matches India have won or drawn against Australia when Laxman Failed. You can check the match history everytime Laxman played well we have troubled Australia and everytime he failed India has lost the match miserably. Australian's accept then why cant we? Rohit is a class player he should replace Kohili. Kohili needs training to play in good pitches, provide that. It is not worth getting out without getting a clue on how to bat in these pitches he already got 4 chances and he could not adjust to the conditions he didnt get after making a good start. He was clueless and missed the technique.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    DROP LaxMan... DROP INDIA's PRIDE.. (That's what these shameless commentators want). Yes, Laxman is not scoring runs consistently. But From How many days Does Laxam is struggling. It's Just 12 overseas innings. In other words 6 test matches barely. My Dear Commentators, Think Just before you speak. I would like to get here one more point. Sourav(dada) has retired. Did we find replacement till now? We are still struggling to find suitable replacement for him. We have to put faith on our indian team. Have faith, India will do better. Rohit and Virat should have get chances. currently virat is getting, In the near coming days, Rohit too will get chance. My Dear Dhoni, Please perform in Tests. Otherwise it is very hard to continue only with captancy. Please.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    whatever one may say on "Rejuvenation " of this team at WACA to beat AUSSIES is all a dream . It is just going to be the same story once again & again. Dhoni won the toss and batted first on a seaming track ( probably thinking its was a Chepauk track!!!!) and was simply "ANNIHILATED" for 191 . So this time round he will field first when the WACA is at the best for batting and you can imagine what it is going to be !!! then when India bat the WACA which by history quicken up as the match progresses we will simply be "BLASTED OUT" though somewhat mildly though since PAT Cummings will not play & and the result is foregone conclusion inside maybe four days !!!! Pray I am proved wrong and I will eat my words !!

  • shanshan on January 9, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    The temperament that is essential to play a test match is vanishing rapidly. I think IPL and similar mindset tournaments are damaging the Indian cricket very much, they should be stopped before there would be hardly anyone available to play whole 5-day cricket matches.

  • vinodvs on January 9, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    Bring back SreeSanth and let india get that extra bit of Luck. Laxman should go- Once in a year innings is not that what is required. Dravid was our wall but we need more Walls. This should be his last series. Not playing one day will add pressure to these guys. We need to have a swing bowler. Drop Ishanth, He hardly threatens the batsma, Bring in Aron. He is a good Lad.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:25 GMT

    its not wise to drop LAXMAN & take ROHIT. LAXMAN prove himself every time when INDIA needs him.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:22 GMT

    vvs did get a 50 @ sydney.....kohli is de only batsmen yet 2 scor a 50 so get rohit in , rohit shod hav been a bttr player dan dhoni, n sehwag if he was nt injured often!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:21 GMT

    I think its time to recall Wasim Jaffer & Akash chopra for middle order..& Prepare Pujara for the Future. Laxman have to go.

  • InsaneBolt on January 9, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Midway through the series, few things are getting clearer. 1. Rohit Sharma needs to be in the Perth XI. 2. Virat Kohli toted as a repalcement to the Sachin/ Dravid should be given a longer rope, 2 tests is just insifficient to prove one's class. 3. Playing with 4 bowlers is not going to bring India any win, not definitely in Australia. Maynot be a bad idea to bring in Irfan Pathan. Gambhir & Laxman (heavy heart.... but time to bite the bullets) should make way.

  • shefil on January 9, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    BCCI should the responsibility who make FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT Pitches for batsman in India...This is the failure of Bowling Dept.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:14 GMT


  • Raj12345 on January 9, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    VVS was not scoring runs for almost 20 home away Innings. This is what I was referring since he stated his failure. He juts hanging in team to crab 1 crore, nothing. You can't talk about 2001 test match performance in 2012 after 11 years. this is really not good argument. If people would have given 20 Innings chance to Pujara & Badri, now the result might be different and we would have been settle down with 2 more middle order, then Rohit on way. Kohli & raina - stop in ODI. No test.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    It would be dumb to drop Laxman...Dropping Kohli is a better option....

  • bighit14 on January 9, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    757 comments... Wow... Seniors are you listening??? Plz think twice before pointing out a single person who is a favourite among so many ppl.

  • on January 9, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    rohit is a class player than that of virat kohli and on a pitch like perth , he is very useful as he plays short ball well than other players like gambhir,kohli,etc. and i dont think dropping laxman is the right thing bcoz anyway this is his last tour to aus, so let him enjoy his game against his fav. opposition

  • agamgoyal on January 9, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    i don't know who will play in the next match ...but i surely know a lot of people have their teams ready to play ...look at the number of comments on this post ...just in one day :)

  • shefil on January 9, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    Minimun, we have still expectation over VVS...PLAYER OF CRUCIAL SITUATIONS

    Drop DHONI first....There is No need of Pushing player for captaincy only.....

  • sandp641 on January 9, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    Drop sehwag,dhoni, gambir and include sharma ,rahane and saha.dhoni is not good for test cricket.

  • on January 9, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    get rohit in ....instead of giving one more chance to virat kohli...if u see his stats...he performed poorly in overseas test matches......his last overseas tour is westindies he performed very badly...not able to adapt to the conditions....edwards tested him with short balls in his previous tests.....WACA is fast and bouncy track so i don't recommend kohli as a part of the team for next test match .....rohit should be in for kohli...i agree that VVS Laxman is not in gud form either ....but he contributed a lot to indian cricket in past i think he needs atleast one more chance to prove himself....

  • on January 9, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    I hope INDIA get white-whashed , hahaha...

  • RK.Chandru on January 9, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    Class players like Gaekwad, Manjrekar with an average of 30 or so, who all had immense talent and wide range of strokes, who were a treat to watch (if you were blind, ofcourse) in their prime, are commenting on an ordinary player like VVS....

  • agn007 on January 9, 2012, 14:15 GMT

    What a long list of criticisms..... hmm.... Last time i remmbr Manjrekar calling for the axe on a senior player, it ws sachin quite some time back...... wish the outcome of his statement would be the same as before... Rohit needs to come in place of virat... there should not be any other change..... virat needs to regroup himself... rohit definitly needs to have a go and not in place of vvs... and wish bhajji wouldbe back in form soon..... missing the spirit,this indian team...... Come on guys, prove it to us that ur gud enuf for more...

  • wolf777 on January 9, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    Laxman and Ashwin out and Rohit and Mithun/Vinay Kumar in. Lat's face it, Australian are not going to prepare a wicket that will assist spinner; so, no point in wasting Ashwin and over-exposing him. Have Rohit be the make-shift spinner who bowles 10-15 overs.

  • on January 9, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    laxman won matches are you kiddinghe won them in asia not outside not a single century in england and sa liability now he doesnt deserve place

  • kingcobra85 on January 9, 2012, 13:53 GMT

    If anyone needs dropping it is the openers who have failed to last even 10 years in the last 16 innings abroad. They dont have a 100 partnership in two years. This is the worst opening pair in world cricket after Bangladesh. How long will SEHWAG say this is how I play ? Media would have crucified if Ashwin or laxman did something like that... It is shameful media always picks their targets not on merit basis

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    Does anyone who matters in the cricket hierarchy, ever read these postings? In this case, 734 postings when I am typing this, WOW!) I don't think so! We are all wasting our emotions (and possibly some degree of intellect) for just a sense of participation.Wasteful and self deceitful non-participative participation. I think that may be the case with other cricket boards too. So, don't jump on to BCCI baiting. They are all of the same ilk !

  • krovvidy on January 9, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    Sick and tired of reading similar comments over and again. If the selectors have made a decision that this is the best available squad to tour Australia, why do people name someone not in this squad to come and do wonders? The captain needs to make best of use of his resources in every game, period. SEHWAG & GAMBHIR - need to be told (rather they should know) that they need to play out the first 1 or 2 hours in every innings. Runs will come when the opposition is tired and their bowlers are out of ideas. DRAVID - can't find much fault, except that he's been getting some exceptional deliveries. SACHIN - well, he's probably the only batsman in form. But he too needs to carry on to play big innings, which he will, if law of averages were to be trusted! VVS - the savior-in-chief, the go-to-man for long vigil. If he is not getting it right, can't we give him benefit of doubt that it's just a one-off bad patch? BOWLERS - keep hitting those lengths and bowl to your fields, thats all!

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    Actually it is a bowling failure. Dhoni is solely responsible for being defensive. It is better we heard Ian Chappel's words than those of Sanjay Manjrekar.

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    Now this is not the time to talk about laxman, he is still in his best.Because when Gambir ,Dhoni nand kohli is not doing their best no one is responding to their poor performance.This is the time to give up the test captaincy of Dhoni.Frankly he is not a great test captain, he just get the name after Kumble.The credit for Indian test cricket goes to Kumble, and just because of him Indian team moved to top.As a captain he showed and he stood strongly as a batsmen and bowler, where as Dhone is not doing his best in batting though he is a batsmen and didn't registered any century in tests out side Asian continent.Why don't we ask selectors just give chances to new comers in place of Dhoni,Kohli,Isant and possible Gambir think of it

  • sureshji on January 9, 2012, 13:28 GMT

    In recent years Dravid has dropped several important slip catches, which has cost India dearly.

  • wrongturn on January 9, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    @sairam chavali i support u in this case....because what u have said totaly correct.....

  • wrongturn on January 9, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    these so called cricket experts are gone mad....droping vvs means they are thinking of removing a piller of the building.... just like the selectors did with ganguly..they will do the same with laxman......because greedy tendulkar will survive from this kind of situation as he has full support of the country......laxman has to be there because the "great" youngsters are not able to play the mighty bouncers of aussies..unlike laxman.....come on management please do samo thing on this behalf....

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    How could you drop VVS Laxman!!!!...I wouldn't do that even in my sleep!!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    As I wrote earlier, time has come to move Sehvag down in batting order. Once he gets out in opening slot the team seems to lose spirit to fight. May be Sachin should be opening the innings with Gambhir. He might advise him about dos and donts. As opener Gambhir in form will remain important. Also Rohit should be given a spot too. After Australian trip will be time to reevaluate the situation. As regards bowlers we have now option of selecting good ones, but for longer term we would have to experiment with new blood. There are many good young players lurking in shadows. Dhoni is one of the most valueable assets, may be it is time he should concentrate on being the best Captain yhat he is and being good batsman of the days gone by. Perhaps he has put too much load on hhimself.

  • Shhy on January 9, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    @elan-ind I wish.. they have learnt from what happened in Sydney.. Some reason i have this gut feeling that we are going to turn things around like we did in 2008.. The careers of Sachin,Dravid and VVS will end on a high with a series win against England at home this year..

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    these guys will drop a player like ganguly only when he is in good form and didnt play well in one serious na. they wont care about others. wat about pathan he bowled well in last match he can perform well with new ball in australia. when srikanth going out of selection commiete oh appa than pathan will play and india can win in othe countries

  • VVS_a_class_act on January 9, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    Who the hell Manjrekar to comment on VVS. Mr Sanjay, VVS is the only man who played in every crisis situation for India in past 3years. Why you Mumbaikers always wants this gentleman's head in every now and then? In any other team VVS would easily become the captain, but not even vice captain here. He is doing selfless service to Indian cricket. Try to respect the legend, if not try shut every thing.

  • SriramK0503 on January 9, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    I still believe that the current Indian team looks quite formidable.Everyone pinned their hopes on bringing back Rohit and to sack VVS away from next two matches.VVS always the best player against Australia,just because he failed to score runs on the board it is not a right decision to rest him.India without Laxman is too difficult at Perth .I think Rahane should be given the chance also in place of Sehwag, Its not at all a testing time if you want to level the series or to win at least one of the next two matches. Get forward to Perth with Rahane in place of Sehwag and play with full team effort, then we can start building the momentum towards our side.Come on guys!!! victory is not just far away if you play with full temperament!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    @ Hari323- why r u hankering after irfan...that boy doesnt have the skills to shine in international cricket nemore.

  • PrajithR on January 9, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    Finally people has started speaking about the Elephant in the room (VVS Laxman)... He is certainly the worst fielder in Indian team (may be in the World)... He leaks at least 50 runs in filed & running b/w wickets ( and so a slip position is Reserved for him)... Time has come to move beyond him

  • Harmony111 on January 9, 2012, 12:40 GMT

    Well, if it was in my hands then I would drop Laxman and Dhoni both. I would rather have Parthiv or Karthik as wk and make someone else the captain. Dhoni is pretty much "An Egg to a Hungry Dog" in tests and Laxman has been disappointing since England. Even if Rohit fails it would still be good for the future. It may be tough though on Rohit to be asked to debut on Perth but one never knows. Ishant too has been very ordinary but we don't really have options there. Wish we had a fit Praveen, he was a hundred times better than any of these in England. I wonder when will Ishant learn to bowl well with all the pace and bounce he has. Huh. BIG disappointment.

  • the_sport on January 9, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    shuffeling: Sehwag at nr. 5 Team:

    Gambhir Dravid Laxman Sachin Sehwag Rohit Dhoni Ashwin (missing u - Bhajji) Zaheer Ishant Yadav

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    It is the same argument again on Laxman...I am sick and fed up of this group which always finds his head amidst almost every crisis to remove...It is a mocking strategy these seniors apply every time India fails...Youngsters..what youngsters are we talking about...look at their bodies...they get injured so very often...breaking fingers like poppadams...Sachin, Laxman and Dravid should be a competition for them...let them be the entry barrier for test cricketers as long as they are there...they should be there to show every test aspirant in India that you need to be much better than Lax, Sach or Rahul to earn your place in the team...finally GOOD THAT INDIA WON THE ODI WORLD CUP...otherwise the seniors would ask RAHUL and LAXMAN to step down from test team to infuse young talent in ODIs...

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    Why VVS should be dropped? Dhoni should sit out. His days are over too. Dinesh Karthik who did very well even in SouthAfrica could not continue because of Dhoni who had nothing but luck to back his case.

  • csowmi7 on January 9, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    i dont know how any of the selectors can even think of dropping players of the magnificence of tendulkar and dravid. perhaps laxman as he is in bad form. cricket isn't only about scoring centuries and tendulkar has been in reasonable form. A 73 an 82 a 94 and a 93 this year and many 60s. i don't think form like this warrants an axing. And for tendulkar haters saying he is a flat track bully. Out of his 51 test centuries 28 are outside india including 6 in australia. As for his one day record out of his 48 centuries 30 have come in foreign conditions. Ricky ponting is next with 30 overall centuries the same as tendulkar has scored overseas. :)

  • vkcca on January 9, 2012, 12:26 GMT

    Drop VVS!!! This is a man on top of the list when it comes to winning matches for India, particulary, in difficult situations. Mr. manjarekar, you must respect this man. Sachin has records, but VVS has won India games more than anyone including you. He deserves the respect and don't throw him out like this. There should be planned exit forsuch a senior players taking him in confidence.

  • elan_ind on January 9, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    @shhy - I wish someone tell to Indian team to read your optimistic comments. All the Indian supporters will be happy if the team have the same confident!!!!!!!!!!

    All the best Dhoni & co.. We need the spirit that you guys had an year back!!!!!

  • lekharaj on January 9, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    Drop Laxman? For God Sake please think. why are people after Rohit Sharma, agreed he is good but nothing great. What will happen if Rohit gets a golden duck next test match ? drop him and get some one else... have patience dropping players is not the solution given the talent that is waiting....tired of hearing about youngsters but these guys don't have the attitude nor talent to match these 3. India should be happy that these 3 are fit and can play and India can not afford to axe them at this point of time. I wonder how people become so popular when they are not in the team.. Rohit Sharma would not have these many supporters once he is in Team

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    What India needs is a killing instict. There were moments in England and Australia when Indian were on top but never took the opportunity to hammer home the advantage. Dhoni needs to be more constuctive and pro-active( not saying that he should start bowling!) and should learn from Clarke who combined attack and defence in a terrific manner. Also Indian need Steves - Waugh or Fleming.

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    Laxman is not only person who is responsible for teams defeat so he should not be made a scapegoat and Laxman has a better record against Australia

  • santy0106 on January 9, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    Dropping some1 like VVS is not worthy he wil click in PERTH and prove all odds wrong :) when some1 plays wel u all people shower applaudes and when he is in a small bad patch a; ae ready with their swords and weapons :( chill ppl its the complete 11players who needs to perform not 1...... !!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    Duncan fletcher is old and lazy.. and Indian players are becoming the same.. you have to blame BCCI for appointing fletcher as coach.. stephen fleming or dav whatmore as coach would have been better. Sehwag has no fear now a days.. just give him a hint that no place is guaranteed and then he will mix aggression with sensible shots.. drop gambhir.. he gets out in 1st innings of every test match.. bowl 10 outside off rising deliveries.. he will nick atleast 2 times.. if laxman fails in next test, rohit has to come in for last test.. India.. make it 2-2.

  • elan_ind on January 9, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    All the teams competing for the 1st spot have no money, no youngster in reservoir but have a good process in place for selecting the team and coaching.... In the other hand India have money, youngsters for granted but don't have good high command who think of implementing new ideas in place for developing the youngsters in team...

    What a funny!!!!

  • nu641001 on January 9, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    I think Lexman is in out of form. There was a season that Lexman was most dangerous batsman in Australia.But now e proved that there is nothing from Lexman's bat in Australia.So we can drop him and let Rohit for his first match against great team-Australia. Sachin and Dravid still have good test future dor 2 years.Avoid them from retairement.They can play.........So concentrate other batsmen's batting and rotate the youngsters in the team.This will be a good option for our team to build a future indian test team with brilliant players..

    So enjoy INDIA v/s AUSTRALIA 3rd Test at Perth.

    Hope that Indians can perform well at Perth.

  • on January 9, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    It will going to b a white wash....

  • on January 9, 2012, 11:49 GMT

    This issue was discussed at length. As most of the fans expressed, there is no logic in replacing Lakshman. Many of the fans questioned even the credentials of Manjrekar, and it is quite natural. Only regional madness appears to be the reason for recommending Laxman's replacement. Let Sehwag be replaced by Rohit, and let Ishant be replaced by Aroan, and let Rahane play in the place of Gambhir. Let Dravid and Rahane open the innings. There may not be "sensations" in the result, but it is only an experiment, as we have got nothing to loose "addtionally".

  • Shhy on January 9, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    Ahhh.. Well done Indian Cricket fans.. this is what is expected of you.. "Drop" is the golden word doing the rounds now.. and it is really sickening to see the blame game has started.. Why cant we jus wait till the end of the series..?? We have not lost the series.. Jus wait and see.. Same team.. Same captain.. we will square the series 2-2.. Please note my name here.. You might have to face me again after the Adelaide test.. and all the so called critics.. please be brave enough to come out after this test series.. Border-Gavaskar trophy will be retained by India.. Write it wherever u want.. thats going to happen..

  • USMANsurgia on January 9, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    There is bitter Truth that Pitches of India are not good enough.....BCCI must bulid the Bouncy Pitches .... BCCI do not have alternative of DRAVID, VVS & Tendulkar this time.... BCCI must find 3 new playerss as soon as possible... KOHLI need for expernce...He is gud Player..... bt Bowling is also very poor...... There is no other bowler than Zaheer Khan..BCCI need to search out companion of Zaheer Khan as well as quality Spinner..... Ashwin is gud only in Sub continents,,,,

  • LuvThyGame on January 9, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    of all.. maninder's comments summarise the situation perfectly.. just like an individuals form, every team also goes through phases.. one loss after another breeds lack of self belief and I made this point earlier somewhere but age is catching up with the greats.. tendulkar looks awesome for the first 100 deliveries.. so does dravid.. but can they endure the fitness levels and score a 329 like clarke? you needed an effort like that to save the test... i think the time has come that iindia tests the youngsters and even if they lose its better that way.. rohit has to play in this series to have some hands-on experience for the next .. even if its failure.. its experience after all... its a tough call to make but VVS has to go in this series and Dravid in the next .. india nees a younger / hungrier batting line-up ..

  • on January 9, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    I believe that VVS Laxman should not get dropped in the next test, as he is a senior and an experienced batsman. On the pitch of Perth, i dont think it would be advisable to test the patience of a new comer like Rohit Sharma. VVS is far more experience and he has handled situation like these in the past as well. Tendulkar on the other hand s saying that he is not looking for his 100th Ton.It will be better that he will sit in the dressing room and make a thought of what is going wrong with him, why he is not able to convert his 80s-90s in 100s. When players of Australia like Ricky, Clarke n Hussey can do, why cant he, he is far better than these players......Lets hope for the best...

  • Alexk400 on January 9, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    I would allow sehwag play VVS laxman spot as he so much wanted to play middle order where ball do not swing and easier to bat. I allow rohot to bat number 3 and ask dravid to open.

  • truebleue_cricfan on January 9, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    It looks as if the former players believe that Rohit Sharma is the answer to all our problems. They are sure to be in for a rude shock. Rohit Sharma is as classy as Laxman when it comes to his shots, but is equally adept in throwing his wicket away courtesy a lazy waft or a ill advised pul shot. India needs someone who has a good technique. Rahane will be a better bet. His scores in the tour games may not be encouraging but he has played in Australia and scored runs in the emerging players tournament. Sehwag should be pushed to the middle order.

  • sys123 on January 9, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    if India win any test in the carrier of vvs, it goes to him only. if you talk about test team for India, you can't drop vvs. in australia, the best team in test arena is always remember vvs from India for the quality of game & technique. we had poor opener & poor bowling attack & no batting display from our captain & others. if India have to be serious about the test, then they have to get lesson from vvs for present & future. sorry gentleman who comments about the present.

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    From Indian perspective,if I was Dhoni or Fletcher I would have included 2 spiners Ashwin n Ojha for Perth Test....lets do something different...U r gonna lose anyways.........

    Bottomline is, it will definetly be 3-0 or 4-0.............Preety Sure on that.....

  • rsurya on January 9, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    Announce that India is no more an international team and groom some fast bowlers who can hit 150+ and build up a captain who knows some technical cricket. then come back to international scene. Then see our batting power house will destroy every team. But with isharma, vinay, mithun you can't say we are international team. In the meantime we changeover to other sports, atleast a chance for other ignored sports to come up.

  • Hari323 on January 9, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    Bring back Irfan in place of Ashwin. This way we can field 4 specialist fast bowlers, yet we don't lose Ashwin's all round abilities. Also play Rohit instead of Virat. Virat has got enough chances.

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    I think we drop 2 plyers vvs and kohli replcs rahane and rohit bcaz rahane is also deserve place.If we do not give chnce to him so why he picked in squad alwys give one chance rahane also we seen him in England he is very good pull shot batsman and his avg is 1st class cricket.Rohit must desrve he playes one dayers in 2008 also. India need changes MSD....else we loose 0-4 here also. JAAGO INDIA JAAGO...

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    Ex players from West Zone are very eager to press the claim of Rohit Sharma vis-a vis Virat and Laxman.Have they forgotten what a suspect he proved to be against short rising balls. Pujara will be a better bet.How have we forgotten Dinesh Karthick .He is better Wk-Bat than Dhoni in oversees conditions.

  • spongebat_squarestumps on January 9, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    India's cricket problem is obvious: "too much 'Twenty Twenty', not enough 'Test testy'." A T20 experience focus is hurting the game (and attitude) of the new players. New Indian batsmen especially have neither the technique nor experience on international first class pitches. Look at Virat and his terrible performance and attitude in the field. BCCI can only blame themselves; so what changes will they make?

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    i agree...we want to build next eleven for future the legends(sachin, dravid, laxman, sehwag) must pleased to take home !!!!!!!!!

  • yaa_right on January 9, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    Don't drop any of BIG-3 in the remaining tests. No real use in replacements now. bcoz, india mostly won't play Aus/SA/Eng/WI tests until mid-2014. Start the replacements only in home tests, measure the youth's test-match abilitites (hopefully BCCI will arrange for some fast/bouncy pitches @ few venues). Then we can have a good young team without (BIG-3 + Zkhan) by 2014 ready for overseas tours.

    Phase-out seniors in the following way:-

    1. Dravid - Play him in tests @home till this year end and he can retire in a bangalore test. Hopefully he will make big runs and retire on a high.

    2. Sachin - He's the best modern-day batsman ever and is in good nick. with gr8 pain, I would say, Play him @home tests till early 2013. Mostly he will score big, with many wins and retire on high at a mumbai test.

    3. Laxman - His disaster-managements skills are still inimitable (especially @ home tests) and team still needs them despite his less agility. Play him till late 2013 & retire @ a kolkata test.

  • AbdullahShaikh on January 9, 2012, 10:29 GMT

    i agree with Sprit_of_Cricket . NOTW needs to be resurrected.

  • AVRAJAN on January 9, 2012, 10:28 GMT

    I could only laugh at Saurav's comments. When everyone pointed out change in team for world cup final, he as captain had a policy of not changing the winning combination and after winning the toss elected to field first and gifted the world cup to Aussies.Now he wants to drop Ashwin just for one test failure and he never gives a word about Kohli's consistent failure.And when batting is our problem, he suggests to drop Ashwin who was involved in( the only one) 50 run partnership with Dhoni in first innings and a 62 in second innings. When our main fast bowlers are not able to take a wicket in a pacy track how can you blame a spinner who had contained the run flow atleast and bowls according to captain's idea. Partisan attitude!!!! First there should be a change in espn panel. Ian Chappel and Gavaskar are enough. Have some screening and rating policy for others.

  • AbdullahShaikh on January 9, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    in the circumstances Irfan Pathan would not be a bad choice, he can even bat, he could be helpful at times like ashwin. May be we can increase the depth in the batting with R.Ashwin and I.Pathn comming in at 8 & 9. We need to build our team like the English team.

  • Gizza on January 9, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    636 comments so far LOL! There's no point saying only one or two palyers were bad. 181 is a collective terrible batting score and only taking 4 wickets instead of 20 is a very poor bowling performance. Everything is a problem for India. Technique, stamina, captaincy, concentration, consistency, fielding. EVERY batsman failed. They all had 4 innings and none of them got over The bowlers obviously also couldn't bowl the Australian team out although they did better at Melbourne. Probably 9/11 deserve to be dropped (everyone except for Ashwin but only his batting and Yadav but only because he's young and did well in Melbourne) but if only there were somewhat adequate replacements!

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    India vs West indies (West Indies) 1st Test : WI 173/10, 262/10 2nd test : WI 190/10, 202/7 3rd Test : WI 204/10, 322/10

    India vs England (England) 1st : Eng - 474/8d, 269/6 2nd : Eng - 221/10, 544/10 3rd : Eng - 710/7d 4th : Eng - 591/6d

    WI vs India (India) 1st : WI - 304/10, 180/10 2nd : WI - 153/10, 463/10 3rd : WI - 590/10, 134/10

    Aust vs India (Aust) 1st : Aust - 333/10, 240/10 2nd : Aust - 659/4d

    Total Innings India have bowled : 21 20 wickets innings : 15 (11 innings against WI)

    Aust n Eng series (all have been lost by India) Matches : 6 Total innings : 9 (5 times - 450+ scores, 4 times innings declared, 3 times innings defeat) 20 wickets taken : 4 innings

  • I_Appreciate_It on January 9, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    I think it is unfair to sought rohit replacing laxman. If you there is one to be dropped from indian team in test cricket it is virender shewag.He has taken his place into consideration.All the good scores he got in recent test cricket were on sheer luck.It is also imperative to note that Indian bowling is lacking the fire or attacking mindset.The bowlers are not coming together to put pressure on Australian batsmen.

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Test Series India have played after world cup

    India vs WI (WI) 1st : WI - 173/10, 262/10 2nd : WI - 190/10, 202/7 3rd : WI - 204/10, 322/10

    India vs England (England) 1st : Eng - 474/8d, 269/6 2nd : Eng - 221/10, 544/10 3rd : Eng - 710/7d 4th : Eng - 591/6d

    WI vs India (India) 1st : WI - 304/10, 180/10 2nd : WI - 153/10, 463/10 3rd : WI - 590/10, 134/10

    Aust vs India (Aust) 1st : Aust - 333/10, 240/10 2nd : Aust - 659/4d

    The fact of the matter is that India have failed to take wickets outside India. To win a test match bowlers have to take 20 wickets. Blaming on a couple of batsmen, dropping them wont resolve the bowling woes...didnt expect such comments from cricketing stalwarts. India doenst have bowlers thats why we are loosing and thats why we will loose.

  • truebleue_cricfan on January 9, 2012, 10:05 GMT

    I think there is talk of dropping Laxman more than anybody else in the team because he has always been somebody who has never given the impression of reliability. This has to do with his game and his dodgy technique outside offstump. He may have scored a lot of runs in a previous match or series, but when it comes to solidity, he has never been thought of as one who can stay for a long period of time to play out overs. He is always seen as one who can score a pleasing 30 or 40 and give it all away with a thoughtless shot. This may or may not be true, I have not checked any stats to verify this claim, but thats the impressions he gives.

  • Only_logic_no_BS on January 9, 2012, 10:01 GMT

    Guys,don't panic.Axing a batsmen isn't the solution because fundamentally the problem is bowling! So the solution should be targeted to bowling.We should recognize that there is no quick magic soln.It takes time.Groom bowlers on different conditions including fast pitches, which should be prepared in India.Indian bowlers lack variety and consistency in accuracy..its all about preparation.In a funny way, if bowlers do well, batsmen don't feel the pressure, and tend to do better too.It is a positive feedback mechanism.

    What to do for now? You could bring in Ojha BUT fast bowlers are the ones who will get u wickets in Aus. Bowlers need to do basics right..simply learn from Aus bowlers.Keep hitting the corridor of uncertainty.Throw in unexpected yorkers and bouncers.If u can't get a wicket,stop the runs;batsmen will get impatient and offer chances.Keep the intensity high throughout the day.Don't let ur shoulders drop! Make that extra effort.1 win and u are back to winning ways!

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:55 GMT

    if i am the captain, then i would take ojha and rohit in place of ashwin and vvs for perth test.

  • ca.ganeshd on January 9, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    Sanjay Manjrekar himself is not 10% good as Laxman as a batsman. How many matches he has won for India like Laxman? All know how long Kapil prolonged his retirement for then world record and in turn delayed Srinath's career. Ravi Shastry did the same to Anil Kumble in 1992 world cup. Now every one is speaking after some lean patch. I do agree it is better to loose with a young team, but you need to give him atleast honorable exit for all he has done to the team.

  • sandeepknk on January 9, 2012, 9:52 GMT

    I think selectors should more chance to yuvi,raina in overseas.still yuvraj didnt get much opportunities in australia and south india should go with raina,yuraj,kohli,rohith sharma.this is good for future.should replace sachin,lakshman,dravid,they played enough cricket.

  • ravykyran on January 9, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    I strongly agree your point. but unfortunate that it's the 3 stalwarts who have stood tall in all their assignments outside India and Laxman, though he has pretty low average away home, is the third highest run getter in the last 12 outings outside India. Still we think of dropping him because he is the weakest of all the three stalwarts. Sad that he has had a rare off - series in Australia. 6 chances to Virat Kohli seems too less just because he is young. And the person who has helped winnin and impossible against Aussie at home last year and hitting a century against lankans to save test match is never considered. Poor India...

    Here's teh link that shows the performance of Indians who have batted at least 5 innings in the last 12 months.;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;orderby=runs;spanmax1=09+Jan+2012;spanmin1=09+Jan+2011;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

  • elan_ind on January 9, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    I don't think the Big 3 having the hunger to get runs anymore! when VVS and Dravid were under pressure for their spot they played to their heart but now their place is well secured and they lost all the spirit they had to score runs! Sachin getting runs because he eyes the 100th ton!

    This is time to give lot of chances for Rohit, Kholi and even Raina - because all the seniors now in the team have came through such a phase where they struggled to adapt overseas conditions. So you can't blame the youngsters for not performing well!this is the time to look for future... If BCCI doesn't wake-up now then at some point their money tree going to get drought!!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Public memory in India is too short, Ravi Shastri has said this once, seem to be correct. How could we forget his Very Very Special overseas innings so easily? Ofcourse Rohit deserves a place, but not at the expense of VVS. Since, everybody says BCCI is the richest Cricket Board, why not consider holding VVS in its portfolio "past perfromance may or may not reflect in future" kind mind set.

  • bighit14 on January 9, 2012, 9:41 GMT

    Whenever an Axe was about to be dropped on VVS, he fought back with a magical knock. The way Seniors are getting behind VVS this time, I can only hope that he will play the innings of his life at WACA. And reg Kohli, this guy surely needs some guidance from SRT and Dravid. Meanwhile Rohit deserves a debut (but plz dont drop him just based on his performance at Perth). He deserves better luck (better than a debut at Perth), but if he is brave enough, the luck will surely favour him.

    Bowling unit just need to do some re-thinking and should develop plans for each batsman (including plan B and C). This Indian line-up is just one win away from all the bad omen of losing overseas.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:37 GMT

    Loving it!!... Watching Aus vs India in early morning...priceless

  • cricket_ftw on January 9, 2012, 9:37 GMT

    No selector is ready to drop the big 3. They must understand the situation themselves and step aside for the youngsters to play. This must be the last series for atleast one of them. Australian pace attack is looking really good for the future. With pattinson, cummins and siddle. Good job by the the Australian selectors by identifying the talents and giving them chance to play. Indian selectors should also try and identify the talents. BCCI should invest a lot in identifyig the young talents.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:35 GMT

    To all the Indian fans suggesting that youngsters can be blooded in the upcoming sequence of home series in India: That's all well and good to a point, but what happens when India next tour SA, England or Australia and play on these pitches? Oh I know: Another whitewash!

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    When Sachin tonked the bowlers all around, we knew exactly how good they are... we perennially live under the pressure and scare of swing and bounce... that would mean we've lost Perth even before we stepped on to play! Application is the need of the hour, value the wicket and don't face a team or a bowler, face the ball, treat it like it should be... my team for Perth - Dravid, Gambhir, Laxman, Sachin, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni, Ishant, Zaheer, Ojha, Yadav.

  • Predic on January 9, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    I dont think Dhoni or BCC will do changes in indian squad. I think dhoni will take this situation easily. I feel...he willl carry forward with the same squad that played in sydney/melbourne... If every individuals play with responsibility and discipline then there is no need to drop any team member. Esp sehwag should & must bat for atleast first 5-10overs minimum...and zaheer and irfan should take wikets atleast 5 before 10overs...take wikets asif you are playing ODI. ALL THE BEST..

  • Manush on January 9, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    We are Masters in giving excuses for the failures. MSD has once again confirmed that he is not the right candidate for Captaincy and for lower order batting, in the longer version of the game but escapes with his one day glories. The Seniors had enough gains from their extended careers .The little Master in pursuit of a milestone losing his peace and the Media and Pundits for over 15 months endlessly highlighting the event which is yet to happen. There is no clear direction or ideas from BCCI and no long term planning and developing youngsters by the Selection Committee either. Contrast to this scenario, look at Clarke, who boldly declared the innings despite being very close to breaking the Australian and Cricketing Icon's record, putting his team's interest before !! Our own Cricketing Icon and great Kapil, had been emphasizing that team's interest is greater than individuals milestones.The selectors should concentrate in bringing young talents & develop their skills

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 9, 2012, 9:31 GMT

    Manjrekar I seriously hope you will eat your own words after laxman scores a match winning knock in perth (like how he did last time). Then may be you will target the bowlers.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    i think dhoni should sit out. let us see captain courageous who is not having a decent tour even by his low standards. give laxman one more chance. and in place of ashwin ojha be a better choice

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    and why just Indian batting is blamed for? You can't win test matches with such hopeless bowling line up. Pitty is that, India dont have the backups for bowling. Get a genuine quickie!

  • dm2012 on January 9, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    This should be the playing XI-(shewag,gambhir,rohit,vitat,zaheer,dhoni,yadav,(vinay/mithun),ojha,virat,ashwin

  • ABLcric on January 9, 2012, 9:18 GMT

    I am from Pakistan and therefore follow closely Indian cricket also. At the moment, Indian cricket is going thru difficult phase. But, its not new to them. The famous cohorts of Gavaskar, Vishwanath, Vengsarkar and then group of world famous spinners Bedi, Chandrashekhar, Prasana, Venkat. They all had to go together and Indian team suffered for a while. This is not the time to panic. The first thing is get thru this Aussie trip, as it gets more difficult as it progresses. Later, the Indian selectors and Board have to make decsion to gradual replacement of present greats such as VVS, Sehwag, Sachin, Rahul. I think, they have already started testing few youngones! Gautam, Virat and others will slowly merge into the national regulars. What they need is time! and we people in the subcontinent do not waste any time in cricket. We want instant solutions. I think, Indian cricket will take about 3 to 5 years to develop stable batting line up.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    drop kohli and include rohit sharma may be we can play rahane in place of gambhir and ojha for aswin bcoz of left arm bowling in australian condition......

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:15 GMT

    Bring in Raina at WACA? You have got to be kidding, this guy cant even duck a bumper properly forget about hooking/pulling or defending it. Rohit is a better choice. Virat got the talent alright, but, he is seriously spoiled by total "Fun" franchise he has been playing for in the IPL. Test cricket isn't just "partying" around Virat. Manindar Singh's comment totally makes sense, India must learn to lose with fresh faces, rather than losing with declining giants.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    Every Member in the team must be Criticised for the defeat not just VVS .If all can look at his records against Aus 10 yrs he master them more often than Sachin given the situation.Our Bolwer has to be blamed more even though our batters too failed miserably.In Melbourne Test We cant bowled them out for 250 in First inning where we almost looked like to do so,In second inning too we got them away being at one stage reduced them 27-4 Those could have definately made the difference of almost 120-150 runs and must have change the complexion of the game.Its agreed that We batted poorly in the first inning at the Sydney test but our bowler after reducing them at 37-3 allowed them to pile up 654-4 (conceed r 600+run by taking just 1 wicket).At that Point 37-3 if they mange to resrtict them at 350 or even 400 India would have been definately in the game 468 arrears had definatly inning defeats on the Cards.Its shame that in last 10years we have just Produced 1 World Class bowler Zaheer

  • JoseDavis on January 9, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    I think Laxman deserve at least one more chance. Dhoni's captioncy seems to be horrible. India was performing much better outside India under Dravid's captioncy.

  • trust_27 on January 9, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    Don't understand the peoples liking for VVS....what had he done....nothing great compare to others.....But whatever be it....its the failure of the complete team and not just one player and by the way all the so called greats who had represented the country and today commenting have done during their days. Atleast today we win one out of 10 matches abroad and during their days we never even thought of winning matches abroad. If given the choice I would include both Rohit and Ajinkya and try them in test. We are no way going to win or draw the series. Rather, try out the youngster and let them have a hands on with the real beauty of test cricket. Whom to replace are the older players whether its VVS, Rahul, Sachin or team managements call. As far as the bowling goes...indian bowling was never better atleast we enjoy seeing these bowlers (Ishant and Umesh) making the opposition hop in one or the other deliveries.

  • BillyCC on January 9, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    I would drop Laxman or Dravid as soon as possible, and blood one young player immediately. Tendulkar and Dravid must follow by the end of this year to allow for the next phase of the transition. Otherwise, India might not win another away test series for 10 years, just like from the mid 90s.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:04 GMT

    Why always VVS??? Why not Sehwag or Gambhir??? What has Dhoni done so far???

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    I guess i have better solution. Bring back Varun Aroon in place of Ishant Sharma, Rohit Sharma in place of VVS Laxman. I am not an anti to VVS Laxman. I'm only talking abt the match. Kohli as activeness in the fileding butLaxman looks very dull while fielding. You can look the droped catch by laxman, however later catch was taken by Sachin. Activeness in must in groung so it encourages the bowler too. Lets Ashwin take one more chance as well he can bat well though. In boucy pitch Ashwin as better chance to turn around the bowl. So replace Varun Aroon in place of Ishant & Rohit in place of VVS. Please dont take me wrong. Even I like VVS as he from my home town. I wish VVS being back with attacking mindset on Australian bowlers.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    Anyone calling for Dhoni's head as a player, please tell whether classy wicket keeper batsmen like Sangakkara or gilly or matt prior are available in plenty to replace Dhoni. Right now Dhoni is the best wicket keeper batsman that India can provide. Dont forget that he scored 57 and remained unbeaten on the toughest day for batting in Sydney. He has hung around with tail enders and ensured a draw at lords in his first England tour as a player when England quicks were breathing fire. Right now only he is playing to his potential.

  • Sandt on January 9, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    i Dont know why people wanted seniors to go. Can some one tell how many runs have been scored by young players in last 10 test matches india had played. Kohli is clearly not comfirtable with short balls and bouncy wicket. It is evident from WI tour. Why keep him in the side and expose indias middle order. What is dhoni doing in middle order. See these middle order problem is adding pressure to top order also. The biggest failure is our bowling in test matches. We dont have wicket taking bowlers or even can pressurise the opp batsmen. Ishant sharma is real waste. Ashwin is not test bowler. Zaheer is doing extra work and finding difficult to get help from other side. dropping VVS or any other senior is going to be further disaster for India. Atleast they are scoring some runs. Drop Kohli for next test and bring Rohit and let him bat at top order and bring Rahul in middle order to strengthen the middle order. Sehwag and gambir should provide a solid start instead of exposing top order.

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:55 GMT

    is it only players to blame? or should it call coach failure......after gary left things are just down hill...........couldnt score 70 runs against west indies in 15 overs........

  • Pritt32 on January 9, 2012, 8:55 GMT

    600 posts suggest how frustated and angry Indian fans are at present. I hope the selectors do read these posts and urgenty make changes as suggested by former players.

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    Why there is no talk abt indian bowlers...?did they perform their best in the series? The first few spells are good and later there is no stamina in our bowlers to deliver the same...

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    If aussies sacked ponting on similar lines india would have very easily pocketed melbourne and sydney tests. Would agree to this if Rohit sharma had atleast a couple of innings under his belt to show. Sehwag hasnt played a good innings abroad after coming back from injury. Why not sack him?. Gambhir has only a scratchy 83 in the previous innings to show for the last one year. The problem is not about individuals. Right now something is preventing them from gelling together as a team. Throwing in more youngsters at the expense of proven professionals like vvs wont help the cause. The likes of Dada, Little master, the wall, vvs all have stormed into the team and cemented their place when they were youngsters by playing memorable innings in the toughest of conditions in the most hopeless match situations. Agree that Rohit needs to be given more oppurtunity but let it come at the expense of younger lackluster performers.

  • AbAdvani on January 9, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    The selectors have commited a blunder by not taking Irfan in for the test XI -he would have been a good fit in the Test XI for the following reasons 1)With Irfan coming in after Dhoni, there would be no need to add an extra batsman (Kohli)-also unlike our other tailenders Irfan has proper technique to play on bouncy pitches and his past track record in Australia is also decent 2)Irfan as a left handed batsman would mean Australian bowlers would need to adjust their lengths for left/right combination- currently Gambhir is the only left hander and with him gone early in most of the innings, the Australian bowlers keep bowling a nagged line to all our right handers 3)Irfan with his inswing back (even if not at a great pace) would still have troubled the Aussies 3) Irfan in as an extra bowler would have provided good foil to Zaheer -Dhoni would not have to rely on the likes of Sehwag to give rest to his mainline bowlers mainly Zaheer who he cannot afford to over bowl.

  • Sprit_of_Cricket on January 9, 2012, 8:43 GMT

    I personally think we should call the news of the world to revealed what happed to India. I have doughts that India is more capable of threat Australia according to the team they have . I am very disappointed to see that there was no sprit of cricket in India's team by throwing their wickets like an armature team. I think to save the India team we need to wake up and have a big heart to allow other youngster by keeping max two senior player in side. So that youngster can learn more on the field with seniors expirences. A country who has talent in millions is seem to have none because most of the current player sleeping on their past best performance and believe that's it. No one remember yesterday when you have a war today.

  • dasharathreddy on January 9, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    I guess i have better solution. Bring back Varun Aroon in place of Ishant Sharma, Rohit Sharma in place of VVS Laxman. I am not an anti to VVS Laxman. I'm only talking abt the match. Kohli as activeness in the fileding butLaxman looks very dull while fielding. You can look the droped catch by laxman, however later catch was taken by Sachin. Activeness in must in groung so it encourages the bowler too. Lets Ashwin take one more chance as well he can bat well though. In boucy pitch Ashwin as better chance to turn around the bowl.

    So replace Varun Aroon in place of Ishant & Rohit in place of VVS.

    Please dont take me wrong. Even I like VVS as he from my home town. I wish VVS being back with attacking mindset on Australian bowlers.

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    So many people are talking about dropping seniors and giving more chance to the youngsters. The bitter truth is we don't have any replacements for them and unfortunatly BCCI is not planned well as well. The total indian team's weakness is not addressed properly. Always we are facing problem during the abroad series some success game because of some individual glory. The local team building set up is not good enough. If you watch any local ranji trophy matches you will understand the difference. Lot number of teams having two three good players. So the intensity is missing. Those who are piling lot of runs and get into the national squad fail to perform. Viru, SRT, RD and VVS are exceptional their performaces overcomes lot of basic weaknesses. India tried Yuvi, Raina and so many youngsters after dropping Ganguly from the squad. None of them clicked. If BCCI really wants save the indian cricket they need to change the whole local system reduce the number of teams, play in live tracks etc

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    I totally agree that Dhoni should be dropped and Gambir should be given the captancy and we need a left handed batsmen rather then gambir which makes the opposition team difficult to adjust their line.

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    khohli can take rest but please don't ashwin, the second most runs maker in indian side!!!!

  • dravidgood on January 9, 2012, 8:26 GMT

    balls faced: Dravid - 320. Sachin 370. In a 2-0 series whn mtchs ended in 4 days each, this is the judging criterion as well. Dravid always is equal to the test whether it reflects in the runs or not. 320 balls @ #3 is a big plus and the team played days coz of tht. Cud have been 7 days otherwise, so do 1thing, give the guy a break after 1000+ tough runs in 2011...Sachin deserves the place likewise and also VVS in Perth, 2 reasons. Bouncy track and also the guy does not deserve apparently to be dropped unceremoniously afterall..he has 66 to show for him as well..Sehwag, Gautam, Rohit and Virat, 3 out of these 4. For me, its more an academic exercise as any 3 out of the 4 is more a choice in hope than expectation.

  • atthipatti on January 9, 2012, 8:26 GMT

    With a heavy heart...Drop Dravid - a spent force, I do not see him performing overseas hereupon!

  • bilalAWAN on January 9, 2012, 8:25 GMT

    567 comments.... This shows you the anger of indian people!

  • I_Think_Cricket. on January 9, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    Why not Dhoni ? Is he getting any younger? What has he done in the tests so far to hold his place in this team? With his defensive captaincy, Dhoni is the worst player in this Indian test team at the moment along with Dravid.

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    I agree with Sanjay. Even if Lax scores a good run in Perth it is not going to help india long run. Virat has to be backed up as he is the future middle order along with Rohit. Drop lax and bring in rohit. Drop ishant and bring in Irfan. Irfan could bat as well. Who knows he and Ashwin could give a century partnership which is required from our tail.

  • Lordly123 on January 9, 2012, 8:12 GMT

    Why drop VVS? I agree that he has'nt scored a lot in this series. Aren't the bowlers to blame for letting Australia score at will. Whenever India does badly, the batsman take the blame. Just wish that the bowlers stand up to the task and defend a low score. Bowlers cannot always expect the batsman to put the runs on the board so that they can bowl without any pressure.

  • master3 on January 9, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    The only way at least we can make the remaining 2 tests to get to draw or win them is to create tension and eagerness in each player by coach and selection team.. .the suggestion I can give each player who ever it may bold to and play your game like you are playing for your country and not for urself... Just watch how you played your last 4 innnings for the 2 test matches and how australians players played their each of their games...I don't think our players have dare to watch their failures and mistakes and look how bravely they face indian bowlers. Think once if you do not play it is that you are making millions of indians losing faith in you and making yourself fool in front of millions of australians.. don't show middle fingers show your bat when you hit centuries...

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    V V S Laxman scored 6 TEST centuries against Australia. 4 in Australia and 2 in India. V V S Laxman scored 4 ODI centuries against Australia. 2 in Australia and 2 in India. V V S Laxman scored 1 ODI century against Zimbabwe. That's in Australia at Adelaide. This makes it 7 INTERNATIONAL centuries on Australian soil. A thread is going on every where at dropping him from Indian side now. A question on AXING. When we talk about this, why every time Laxman, Laxman and only Laxman?

  • Harry_Kool on January 9, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    First of all I am glad other nationalities have kept out of this discussion with the Indian dilemma. I just wish it was reciprocated! Secondly, with no ratings currently on our tv and little cricket, reading these posts presents a very, very amusing alternative. Keep it up guys! LOL

  • on January 9, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    i also agree with Sorav Coments about Ojah includ in his team

  • ramli on January 9, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    winning formula for India in tests will be ... say no to overseas tests ... play only home tests ... in this way ... seniors can happily prolong their career till they retire on a pension ... and meanwhile ... young cricketers will all lose interest in test cricket ... so that .. . tests can effectively be taken off the system ... and can concentrate only on T20, T10, T5, etc.

  • ramli on January 9, 2012, 7:59 GMT

    The seniors were selected to tour aus in the hope of trying to win the series ... but they are not even helping to retain the pride ... and ... they have to leave the scene anyway ... why not inform them to quit gracefully ... one by one ... India will lose all tests overseas .. we can as well face that with juniors ... or .. say no to overseas tests and play only home tests ... every board on earth will agree to this ... as they want only money from bcci ... and we can be happy to see our team winning most of the times ...

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    Enough of Virat Kohli. Rohit should be there instead. It is high time to groom a couple of good openers. Let Raina attempt to get rid of his weakness and get in to the team. Looking forward to Yuvraj.

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    Fully agree with joseyesu . They have outlived their utility. The entire senior brigade needs to be phased out. BUT in a gradual manner. one new comer at time needs to be settled in the team. A.Rahane, Rohit Sharma, V.Khohli, Should have been well settled in the team long back. S.Raina should not have been axed.

  • mohdmusheer on January 9, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    Australia made 600+ runs, how it was possbile, only because of poor bowling line up. It is a time to think about bowling not batting. ONly Zaheer Khan cannot take the reponsibility. We need three good seamers and two spinners. Irfan Pathan not included, he is good form and he is having good record in Australia. India should be away from consipracies to win matches.

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    stop IPL.. that will make lotta difference.....cut their source of income...none of the batsman in INDIA have the patience to stay on the pitch....cant let go the bowl offisde the stumps.....

  • johnathonjosephs on January 9, 2012, 7:45 GMT

    Its sad that because of one player's ODI heroics in both batting and captaincy, nobody dares criticize him or suggest he be dropped. But MS Dhoni has been a Test worry for quite a long time. He only scores on flat pitches and when India has already posted 500+ runs. His wicketkeeping is just truly horrid in the 5 day format and his captaincy is extremely confusing (bringing in RP Singh in the England series/pulling defensive fields and allowing easy singles for batsman in Aus Series) He is the real man who needs to be dropped, but nobody dares say a word for the media will take a hold of the critic and rip him apart. Mark my words, India won't win too many Tests abroad until Dhoni's out

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:44 GMT

    a great idea........i would say get suresh raina in the team as well if u dont wanna see a whitewash by aussies.....

  • tous4u on January 9, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    i like to suggest the selectors to drop sehwag, kohli as they are not fit for test cricket and give chance to some new players so that we may get the players for winning matches outside india also.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 9, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    Guys I have the answer and it is sooo simple. You guys will slap yourselves for not thinking of it earlier Drop Kohli and move Ashwin up the order as a specialist batsman and bring Ojha in for the spinner. Its perfect!

  • MandyBoy on January 9, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    Totally agree that Manjrekar should be dropped for the commentary panel. The man does not have any sense about what he talks. First he targeted Tendulkar, and now other seniors.This is not the time to drop Laxman as it would throw the cat among the pigeons, physcology wise! The senior are still there because of their performance. Manjrekar couldnt get back to the side once Dravid replaced him and now he is vouching against the seniors. Also younsters should be given a chance in home conditions and not test them abroad! Please dont put young careers ats stakes!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    I think the problem will be solved if Dravid goes to 6 and and Kohli goes to 3. And oh, fire Dhoni from the team. He is not test caliber (never was).

  • contactajithkumar on January 9, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    Mr.Manjrekar, U do not have any moral rights to talk. I agree that Dhoni is not a test match material; other than that these is the best team we have now. If these players cannot win matches; i bet you no one will. i still have faith on my Indian team; they will win the Perth test for sure and a draw in Adelaide is always on the cards. And those anti-Sachin's out there; please support him after he has been serving the Indian cricket for more than 22 years now.

  • dnavalusa on January 9, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    Agreed that Laxman hasn't clicked this season in Australia, But it is SEHWAG that needs to be dropped & reprimanded for being irresponsible and insensitive to the situation.

    And secondly, promote Ashwin up the batting order. Kohli remains in.

    Also, lshant Sharma needs to be dropped permanently. We need to get another FAST bowler in. Its time we gave Aaron a chance.

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    Most of these Ex. players who had opined here will never criticize the current lot if they go back and realize wht extra ordinary they had done in their playing days.

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    first the indian selector & indian captain should know which type of player they should select in this stage.if the indian cricket team is select like this then team is get any plus point. team: gambhir, sehewag, sachin, dravid, rohit, ajankiya rahane, dhoni, ishant, progyan ojha, zaheer, yadav.

    if u get one more chance to kohli then descision is too bed.i think this chance is goes to ajhankiya rahane .if u take 2 chances for kohli & u find no result then why not u take one more chance 4 rahane & rohit & progyan also. MR. DHONI U SHOULD READ MY OPINION & think ABOUT THIS.IF U WANT TO GET ANY POSITIVE RESULT 4 INDIAN TEAM & 4 U AISO.


  • nnagamahesh on January 9, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    Even after playing Cricket for more than a Decade, still Knife hangs on the neck. There is still a demand to drop him for failure, even though all others too failed. When he succeeds, he gets little praise, when others get more for little. He is none other than VVS LAXMAN - poor talented man surviving for his place. People who are demanding for him to be dropped...can they answer following questions.. 1. What is Test average of M.S.Dhoni and when had he contributed for a test win? 2. Gautam's highest score in tests recently is 80(approx) made in last test. So is he in Good Form? 3. What about the selection of Irfan Pathan...hadn't he proved enough to be made available for Selection to Indian Team? 4. Virat Kohli...he is talented, but still not enough for Tests.He gets runs with ease in One he is in form no doubt...then why he is failing in Tests? Still people say give him a many chances? Where is Pujara? Commenting is quite simple...than playing in middle..

  • on January 9, 2012, 7:07 GMT

    Tendulkar and Ravichandran Ashwin are more comfortable players so far in this tour.....! Rest of team India is a huge failure!

  • CricKrazy_AJ on January 9, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    Drop Virat and take Rohit, you can call Irfan as a back up for Ishant / Umesh

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    Its very Interesting comments from such ex cricketers who themselves were not ready to leave their berth ........ Dropping VVS will be huge mistake if india do this..... I still feel India need to do some changes in batting order rather than dropping som1...... And Making Rohit debut on PERTH will be a suicidal step..... Its a fastest Pitch on earth..... and if Rohit makes debut and failed then it will be hell lot of pressure on him for next time round..... for me Rohit has to prove it in ODIs coming after.... the series couldnt be won nw so why change the team .. jst change the order........ My lineup would be..... 1)Gambhir 2)Ashwin 3)Virat 4)Sachin 5)Rahul 6)VVS 7)Viru 8)Dhoni 9)Zak 10)Ishant 11)Umesh

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    Disappointed by few comments over. I dont undrstnd wht is d need 2 drop Lax!Laxm no doubt hasnt prformd 2 his bst bt who among d pavillion players desrve his place?Its gud v r talking abt India's future n less of dependance on d seniors who will HAVE 2 retire someday.Bt dropping Lax at dis tym aftr 2 tests will giv rong signals 2 Aussies,will b a big blow 2 Lax's morale n who knows how is d replacement goin 2 play in d remainder of d series.If dere ws a need 2 drop 1 senior member it should hav been done rt @ d start of d series n nt in btwn.Giving youngster chance fr 2 matches n dropping a sr for d 2 matches is jst nt d way selection committee shud wrk.Instead an indication can b given 2 Lax 2 perform fr d remainder of d series n d analysis shud b done aftr d series is over.BTW is anybody talking abt our bowlers?how does it matter if dere is a sr batsman or a young batsman.R dey goin 2 take 20 wickets?Correction is needed in bowling dept.How mch hav v depended on Khans n Kumbles.

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:49 GMT

    Just wondering whats going on in the Ranji season...Players score loads of runs on dead as death wickets....Bowlers wait for batsmen to make mistakes rather then they terorizing batsmen....Bounce is comfortable.....Balls dont swing....Spinners dont spin the ball anymore...They rely on variations...And if am not wrong players get selected from this very tournament only....So Mr BCCI please try and make sporting wickets cross country revamp the NCA if you want more reliable breed of players who can play even on the moon some day.....

  • Gozunder on January 9, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    Why do all these experts haggle over India's batting? The bowling has been India's biggest failure for better part of two years! Its time India's bowlers pulled up theri socks, sort their lenghts out, work harder on their discipline and make Eric Simons work for his paycheck. And please Mr. Fletcher, for once get that grumpy look off your face and help these demoralized souls salvage some pride!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:44 GMT

    When Sachin tonked the bowlers all around, we knew exactly how good they are... we perennially live under the pressure and scare of swing and bounce... that would mean we've lost Perth even before we stepped on to play! Application is the need of the hour, value the wicket and don't face a team or a bowler, face the ball, treat it like it should be... my team for Perth - Dravid, Gambhir, Laxman, Sachin, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni, Ishant, Zaheer, Ojha, Yadav.

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    I donno y people r calling Ashwin's head ..He got some wickets in the first test match and none of our bowlers took wickets in the 2nd test match ..I mean ..we managed only 4 wickets (3 from zaheer) ....its unfair to target Ashwin n Laxman for the collective failure ...Atleast, Ashwin has batted well unlike kohli or sehwag ....

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    Let us not drop anyone..This will definitely demoralize the entire pack..we can make some alterations in the batting order..get VVS at No3..or Sachin, who is in very good touch, to play No.3. Get dravid to come at No.5 after Kohli, we are not having any stabilized lower middle order. Dhoni cannot be trusted for his batting. Also, the openers should help the No.3 by seeing off the shine of the new ball. thats what they are there for...and thats why they are selected to open..they should play atleatst for 15 that the ball loses its shine...this will be the best option going into Perth test..change the order and get Dravid at 5 down

  • rsurya on January 9, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    To a maximum Make a seperate team for ODI and test. kohli, rohit, raina, yuvi, all are limited over specialist. until we get a good keeper have dhoni filled in, sehwag is the reason we won test matches so he should be at top, gambhir should always have a well groomed replacement but only at times of injury. And no one in the world are yet qualified to speak about tendulkar so dont ever speak about the 4th spot untill he himself feels its time. same applies to dravid too. Its a team game if batting goes bad the bowlers should help lift the team and if bowling go bad vice versa. but here if bating go bad the bowling goes too bad.... And for god sake please dhoni attend some summer course on how to set attacking field and how to trap a batsman to get him out. Mainly how to play without Isharma in the team.

  • NRPOnline on January 9, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    It is funny how people change their opinions about the team and especially stalwarts. None of the seniors who commented on the current team, showed any spirit during their days. With due respect, Kapil too took several matches to get last 40 wickets. Only Dilip deserves to make some comments having salvaged india on many occasions. Ravi too up to certain extent. Kapil's cameo helped us win here and there (notably the WCC 1983 match against ZIM) but by and large his primary role was a bowler who could bat and not the other way round. Dilip said it right. Dependency on stalwarts is a sign of poverty. Dada was lucky to have stalwarts in the team at their peak. He enjoyed the success the most unlike Dhoni who benefited from it for a while but now suffering due to over-dependency. It is a catch-22 for him now. Keeping seniors and getting rid of them will yield the same results. But speaking of mental toughness, only stalwarts can save this series if that is of any consolation.

  • AVRAJAN on January 9, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    Someone suggested dropping Manjrekar. No. he gives useful and unbiassed comments. The one to be dropped is Mr.Ganguly. His commentary is like radio commentary and several occasions he is targeting some players and seems biased.

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    pls drop Laxman .............

  • subbudu1 on January 9, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    Poor opening partnership has put pressure on Dravid time and again. India should groom fresh openers. Instead, if India chooses to groom Virat, there is no point at all. Enough of Virat. Rohit should be first choice. Raina should be groomed. Expecting to see Yuvraj and Badrinath in the middle order.

  • rnarayan on January 9, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    Drop Laxman? What nonsesnse! Whenever there is a problem, it's "Drop Laxman"! How short our memories are!I question whether any player could have played the ball that got him in the last test. Sure, we should groom youngsters, but surely the object is to win the next test, and not some test 3 years down the line!

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    always the axe falls on laxman first... in 3 innings he failed,, last innings he got his nick back and if he continues in rest of series, it will be advantage india... sachin should be rested for some time, his 100th ton is only running in his mind which is making him not to play comfortably...

  • Siddhu_Roy on January 9, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    Sibi Mathew, LOL, that's a good solution. It's funny everyone of the so-called experts are pretending to find a solution in batting order as if it's the only issue. Look at the bowling. Very mediocre. Most of the successful teams always pick 20 wickets. Ponting, Clarke, Hussey made huge totals due to the worst bowling/field-placements from the opposition. Laxman, Dravid, Tendulkar would've made even more runs had the bowling attack been similar to India's. But they faced a disciplined attack. The situation would've been better had the bowlers supported Zaheer's early breaks (3/37) in the Aussie inns. Nobody comments on bowling. Why? There's no solution there.

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    It is usual for us to ask and also actually spill blood after dismal performance and then the life gets back to normal once again !

    Now it will be VVS and if by any chance Rohit fails then he to will be lost.........

    How if we ..........

    Prepare fast and bouncy tracks

    Ensure evetry cricketer right from school boys level gets enough exposure on fast and bouncy tracks

    A minimum of 50% of Times sheild, Giles Sheild, Coochbehar, Sheesh mahal ,Ranji, Dupleep,Irani trophies, and also Kanga league even if it is played during the rainy season MUST be played on fast and bouncy tracks.

    High time we decide a TEAM first and then select players to fit in .

    Batsman heavy team is not necessarrily a good team.

    Better to feild traditional playing X I comprising of 2 openers, 1 one down, 2 MoB , 1 batting allrounders, 1, bowling allrounder 1wkb ,3 bowlers

  • philipsmgp on January 9, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    Why dont people talk of dropping Sachin tendulkar who is more concerned about his 100 th ton.tell me the last time he played an important test match innings to save or win a match overseas or in india??????why just target VVS.The experts who are giving all these comments have been players in past and they have gone under these circumstances.Does anyone know Vengsarkar's record in the last Australian tour he played.he batted even worse than a tailender.There are more deserving candidates to be dropped sehwag , dravid(a bit harsh though), kohli and ofcourse he useless dhoni who has been occupying his place just because he is the captain.

  • anukrtiti on January 9, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    change everything..............from line ups to players...... {laxman out rohit in}.............. {ishant out ojha in}.......... opening-virender sehwag and sachin tendulkar. no.3-rahul dravid. no4 gautam gambhir. no.5 virat kohli. no6 rohit sharma. no7 ms dhoni. no8 ashwin no9 pragyan ojha. no10 zaheer khan. no 11 umesh yadav

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    knee jerk reactions has always been the problem with indian cricket, high time golden oldies retire or be sent out, let some youngsters get some decent outings at international levels do not judge them with one two matches not every one can score centuries or pick wickets in their initial matches, if they have the potential we need to nurture it and not put them under pressure to retain their places in the team, kohli and ashwin definitely are test match material, give them a couple of more chances,

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:08 GMT

    Of course, Laxman has not been performing of late, but his class cannot be overlooked. India's main problem is the opening. What Shewag is doing ? He gets out after hitting one or two fours. No one would like to see an openier trying for fours and sixes right from the outset in a test match and gets out cheaply. If he thinks, even after playing like this his position in the team is for sure, that should not be allowed. Now Dravid is doing the role of an opener and if it is going to be the case, then what is the need of Shewag as an opener. We may include some new one like Rohit in the middle order. Ishant has got one quality to become a fast bowler, that is his height, nothing else. So selectors should also keep this factor in mind.

  • ProdigyA on January 9, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    Its interesting to see that everybody is talkin about batsmen and want to win test matches. You win test matches BY TAKING 20 WICKETS for which we need good bowlers. Bring in express fast bowlers who can take wickets or atleast clean up the tail like Malinga. Secondly and more importantly, drop Dhoni from test team, his contribution as a player is nill specailly when playing abroad, and as a captain he is pathetic with his defensive tactics and lack of inspiration, his waiting-for-things-to-happen approach is pathetic. As far as batting is concerned i think VVS needs to be replaced with Rohit and also put some sense into Sehwag.

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    I feel India is currently not a good test side. It lacks players who have the zeal to win games, and looking back at what has happened in the last year there have been no proper partnerships in the middle order. That has played a significant part in the derailment of the team. And Mr.Cool Captain MS Dhoni is batting at 7...By the time he arrives at the crease the damage is almost done. So how can he play a captain's knock at that place? He should seriously consider moving up in the order like Number 5. Also he should interact more and more with the bowlers in the field. It would help the team's course a lot. If you look at future perspective its better if we drop a couple of seniors from the middle order after this series, a tough call but the time has arrived. Hopefully the seniors would respond and win the remaining games and get a Good adieu. SEHWAG, GAMBHIR, RAHANE, PUJARA, SACHIN, KOHLI, RAINA, ROHIT, DHONI,YUVRAJ, PATHAN I, ASHWIN,OJHA,ZAK, PRAVEEN, UMESH,ARON,SRISHANTH.

  • on January 9, 2012, 6:05 GMT

    Throw away Laxman and Tendulkar. How long will we depend on these ageing players. Just because of his 100th century we keep on Tendular, which, he will achieve in ODI. Instead bring in Rohit Sharma and Chhateswar Pujara and if need be, Abhinav Mukand, who is shaping very well as an Opener. Let Dravid and Abhinav open the innings and Gambir at No.3. Kohli deserve more chances to prove his mettle in middle order.

  • DINESHCC on January 9, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    There is no point in dropping fab 4 (Sehwag, lax, dravid, sachin). The combination that did many wonders in England and are doing wonders in Aus is Fletcher and Shivlal Yadav. First sack them, then talk about others.

  • eyaniv on January 9, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    5 point formula - 1. MSD inherited the #1 Test Ranking a short while after he became captain. His true worth as skipper will be now....if he can regain the #1 rating for India. 2. Sehwag should be given a rest from Test cricket or change the batting line up for the WACA and open with Dravid, Gambhir and move Sehwag down. He wants to play in the middle order anyway. Move VVS to #3. 3. We need an all-rounder instead of carrying 6 batsmen and 1 ineffective wk, we need 5 batsmen, 1 effective wk-batsman, 1 all-rounder and 4 bowlers. Irfan is a possibility but not sure he's there as yet for Test Cricket. If Ashwin can do that role, then get one of the other pacers in. 4. Our experts need to give their comments a rest....we know how Manjrekar, Kapil, Sourav et al performed at one stage or another in their career. 5. We have to re-build and it will take time. We need to stop being emotional about these losses. We are going to have a few more....

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    i agree to chetan chauhan, they need to try something different, shuffle them around or drop one or two n get rohit or an allrounder like irfan pathan, it doesn't matter who they are, its all about winning.

  • AVRAJAN on January 9, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    In the famous Perth test in the last series we had both Kumble and Harbhajan (though Harbhajan did not deliver his best) and won the game. So our strength is spin.The reason for not Ashwin taking any wicket in the last test is due to the runs scored at the other end. If Ojha also bowls at the other end tightly, then chances of taking wickets for spinners are more. And we should have five bowlers. We must drop Gambhir or Shewag and Laxman or Kohli, include Rohit and Ojha and ask Dravid to open. Anyhow he is going to face the third or fourth ball.This will definitely strenghthen both the bowling and fielding.vinay may also be included in place of Umesh since he has the ability to bowl short pitch deliveries effectively.

  • Nishant2412 on January 9, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    Mr. Manjrekar, do you think that senior players of the caliber of Laxman and Dravid are ever going to be replaced by these so called young trunks of Team India viz. Raina, Kohli, Yuvraj and the likes. Your problem is that you think very narrowly and not having any cricketing acumen. If you suggest that Laxman has to be dropped then I would ask the broadcasters to drop you from the commentators panel even, since you don't deserve to be there. If you suggest that Laxman has to be dropped then I would say that you never deserved to be in team India and playing for our Country, because you are not good enough even half of what Laxman is. Give these seniors the respect that they deserve from their performances over the year and specially Laxman who always performed under tremendous pressure not only from the match situation but also because of the sword of dropping from the team always hanging onto him right through out his career. The replacement which are good are few only- Pujara & Rohit

  • bidus123 on January 9, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    Only Tendulkar and Aswin is looking comfortable. Drop Sehwag, Lax and bring Rohit and another fast bowler. Open Dravid nd Gambhir, Virat at No.3, Tend, Rohit, Aswin, Dhoni, and 4 quicks.

    Aswhin will play as 6th batsman who can bowl.

    We have already 2-0 down. When will we take the risk where without taking risk we are being defeated?

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    No team would ever succeed that considers a series a mere launch pad for youngster. What if Kohli, succeeds after few more failures, the series is already gone. Junior or Senior, does not matter in test cricket, by the way we are not preparing the team for a Test World Cup that would happen in 1-2 years. Today is the biggest test, Team INDIA failed as a batting, bowling and Fielding Unit (did I miss anything here). Biggest flops in the series -- Laxman, KOHLI, Ashwin....Gambhir...

    and the final verdict, the first three deserved to be dropped to return only on merit. Thanks.

  • shrnk on January 9, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    The Australians, West Indians, New Zealanders, English, South Africans, Irish have an unfair advantage. They are athletic and have better reaction times. Lets standardize athleticism and reaction time. If more athletic and/or more reactive than standards, it should be termed a no-ball. That way Sehwag can begin his flashiness without having to bother about Warner plucking a catch out of nowhere. Anything which bounces above waist height should be considered a no ball. BCCI down with DRS, up with standardization. It will be the Mc Donald of fielding and bowling.

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    There is nothing to be done to the team composition as no one in India better than Tendulakr,Dravid or Lax.

    The greatest mistake in the 2nd test was electing to bat after winning toss. That was the fatal mistake. Dhoni should have properly assessed the pitch condition, before making the decision. He should stop being always defensive attitude and there is nothing more to loose in this series, just go for attack in the remaining tests. Nothing else to do, there is no need to change anyone in this team except Kohli. I bought a ticket to watch Adelaide test, but if itis going to be the same story again in Perth, I will abandon my plan.

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:47 GMT

    Good One Sibi.... well

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:43 GMT

    Well All the three terminators should be dropped

  • mihir_nam on January 9, 2012, 5:40 GMT

    Common Indians don't introduce Rohit or Rahane at perth .Adelaide is good option. India should seriously Invite Zimbabwe and Bangladesh together for 2-2 Test series in India and field a team of youngsters against them ,giving rest to SRT,Dravid,Laxman,Shewag...even Zaheer, ..Dhoni also .. with 4Test experience these youngster will be good enough to face big guns and Test ready to try against big teams...

  • Test_Match_Fan on January 9, 2012, 5:36 GMT

    In ODI and 20/20 the bowlers are put to the sword for entertainment by batsmen and cheer girls. Therefore the 20/20 and ODI batsmen will never ever be successful in test cricket where the ball swings and bounces and rears and the wicket wears out and the weather plays a part and etc. etc. So stop expecting Virat and Rohit to be successful in tests. Rohit Sharma is another disaster waiting to happen like Virat Kohli and Suresh Raina. Sorry India fans, the selection strategy is very flawed.

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:31 GMT

    Open the Innings with Gambhir and Ashwin. One down should be Dravid followed by Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman, Rohith/Virat and Dhoni. This should be followed by Zaheer, Umesh Yadav and Ishanth. This line up will give settle the batting issues of Indian team. Ashwin started his career as an opening batsman and he should do this job very well and once the ball is bit old (20 overs+) Sehwag can destroy the opponent!

  • Liontamer on January 9, 2012, 5:28 GMT

    Ok, lets say we make some moves and get our batting rock solid and go neck and neck with Aussies and score 100s and doubles. Then at best we are looking at two drawn matches and a lost series. .the point is, The only way to win the next two games and level the series is by steller bowling and our current bowling wont cut it. The only other bowler we have on the bench that can have that sort of impact is Ohja. How I wish we had Rahul.

    So here are my changes for the next two tests, Rohit In and Laxman out. Ohja in, but who to drop ? .. I say Dhoni goes, Dravid keeps wickets instead and Sehwag is the new captain. One more change, Ashwin opens with Gambhir and Sehwag bats further down

    Gambhir, Ashwin, Rohit, Dravid, Sachin, Kholi, Sehwag, Zaheer, Ishanth, Yadav, Ohja.

  • srini701 on January 9, 2012, 5:27 GMT

    Laxman will NOT be dropped. Knowing him he might well announce his retirement at the end of this series or even before the last Test. India anyway has no more series outside the subcontinent for the next 2 years and that probably is a good time to ease younger players into the side and allow them time to settle down. The next Test series is also a good 6 months away, and Laxman (and maybe even Dravid) may well decide to call it quits before then. NOT fair for all these former players (many of whom hung around till they were forcibly shoved out of the team) to ask for Laxman's head now.

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:25 GMT

    Hi Selection Committe,

    I have a suggestion for you guys when you pick up Indian Team for our for coming test match .... Drop all Bowlers ... Get a bowling machine instead of that ... Australia will Declare whenever they get bored.... So pick up 11 batsmen who can score at least 60 runs...Thinking Australia will get bored after 620 then Declare ... 60 * 11 Batsman will be 660 runs + extras ... for atleast to draw the match ....And no need of a Captain and Keeper ...

    Hope all will agree with me ....

  • praveenchopra on January 9, 2012, 5:23 GMT

    yes,pujara looks very uncomfortable against pace and bounce,he can only play in bangalore,rahul dravid and laxman can play well against quick bowlers,so please drop pujara and gambhir

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:22 GMT

    Drop Manjrekar and get Siddhu on ESPNcricinfo.

  • BalaSenty on January 9, 2012, 5:20 GMT

    What ever changes you make, series is almost lost. Drawing the series will be next to impossible. Once Drop Kohli and give chance to Rohit. Drop Ashwin is out of question (Who will score runs?), Ohja can come for one test, the last one. India should only play test cricket in Indian soil, they can implement such rule like how they control DRS in ICC. Indians have loosing habit like Ian Chappel said.

    Can any one know India winning with any team like the way Australia did to India in Sydney? I am sure no one will know as India never won test in such a way. All Indian players need practice and better they don't play test cricket on foreign soil for a while. Virat was angry over crowds, but does he not feel angry on himself for not performing? I wonder how old cricketers support Kohli, he just managed one half century in more than 8 tests, on the other hand Laxman had saved many games more than Sachin and Ashwin already have one hundred being a bowler. GOD save India from white-wash!

  • Satv007 on January 9, 2012, 5:15 GMT

    Guys...India is going to play a test match after 6 months after this Aus tour so team management has to be patient and stick with the seniors as they have enough time to phase them out. Players like VVS, RD and SRT need not be advised to retire and they know when to do so. Give Rohit a chance by resting some senior pro. Why talk about the big 3 alone, even MSD and Viru are not doing good. How about replacing viru with rahane. I would love if MSD experiments with Rahane, Rohit and Virat for the last test.

  • Mr_Anonymous on January 9, 2012, 5:12 GMT

    I had one more thought. The people who are complaining about the bowlers may have a valid point but in my opinion the person who needs to be kicked out is Eric Simmons. How is it that Craig McDermott is able to instill his bowling advice/plans/discipline into such a young side in such a short time and that Eric Simmons really hasn't done that for India in WI, England and Australia (places where he had the best chance to show that he is making an impact). I think its time for someone else to have that job. I remember that in 2003-2004 when India toured Australia, Bruce Reid was the bowling coach and the bowling was so much better at that time. It would be interesting to give someone like Shaun Pollock a chance. I also think India needs to think about having a specialist fast bowling coach for only overseas series. The reduced time commitment would make the position more appealing to the right candidate.

  • rsurya on January 9, 2012, 5:12 GMT

    tmd1, but is that his fault that the team did'nt win even after he shouldered a major part. I too agree ponting is a legend.

  • Jaggadaaku on January 9, 2012, 5:11 GMT

    Rohit alone, won't make any difference. Cricket is not an individual game. They all have to fight together and show what they actual capable of. There are many other players also should be dropped such as the bear belly wicket-keeper/ captain himself (Dhoni), bowler (Ishant) who bowls mostly on the leg side while 8 fielders on the off, batsman(Kohli) whose anger is not controllable, fielding strategy (Most time opposite batsmen drive the ball but there is nobody to field the ball, slow fielders like Laxman and Dravid cannot be at the slip cordon especially in the England, Australia, and New Zealand's bouncy pitches. Like I said alone Rohit wouldn't change the game. Tendulkar should get it done his 100th ton soon and get over it. Otherwise he would be in a lot of pressure from his fans and medias.

  • on January 9, 2012, 5:08 GMT

    I am surprised @ Kapil's comments. I hope every one remembers how long it too him for last 20 wickets enroute 400 !!

  • SmartStrategy on January 9, 2012, 5:06 GMT

    Notes to Team Management: 1) At this stage, first try your best not to loose 4-0. Fans will easily accept a 3-1 or 2-1, but that's fine, b/c it would show that we can bounce back. After that, we have almost 2 yrs of Test only in the subcontinent. That would be the time to phase out the oldies and brood young players. We are still a great team at home and can keep winning comfortably during that time. 2) It's not just batting, bowling and fielding has to be very aggressive. Body language on the field has to be very positive till the end. You may loose or win, but keep the contest hard, keep building pressure, it will pay off at some point. Current Aussie team is appearing better than what the are, mainly because of lack of aggressive accurate bowling and poor fielding strategies. 3) Dhoni cannot be blamed alone for poor captaincy (although he is not as effective as in One-Dayers). A captain needs fresh ideas and help. Senior players have to contribute strategically apart from batting.

  • fahim-akhter on January 9, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    Indian team is full of great players, what make them great team is fighting spirit and they r lacking in it. I've seen fighting spirit in indians when they play against pakistan anywhere so they shouldnt stop playing with pak. Fighting spirit is burried only, i wish india could win series in Aus however, its unfortunate that great players r playing with no spark. Please publish this

  • aarpee2 on January 9, 2012, 5:00 GMT

    The fact of the matter is Dada retired a few seasons ago.Has his position been consolidated by anyone of the youngsters overseas.Yuvraj,Raina and Kohli one-day wonders have not played a single meaningful innings of any quality in Tests overseas during this period.Now there is a clamour mid-tour for changes and VVS is suddenly the culprit.Pray what have Gambhir,Sehwag and Dhoni done during this period except add a few millions to their coffers from IPL-no runs overseas in their last many tests overseas.Even Ashwin has scored more than these guys including Kohli.Rohit has not had hit since mid Dec and you expect him to walk into Perth and solve India's batting failure-unless we get off to decent start from the openers situation will prevail-GOOD LUCK

  • arpzzz on January 9, 2012, 4:58 GMT

    What Sanjay manjarekar did for team India?? He did spoke against Sachin also in 2005, and Sachin let his Bat do all the talking, Now he spoke against Laxman, Laxman doesnot need any certificate of eligibility from Sanjay manjarekar. Looking at current situation of all teams, I donot think that any team will be at rank 1 for longer duration of time. All subcontinent teams have horrible records in SA, AUS and ENG. Australia lost last 2 series in India, England lost in Pakistan, in India,in SriLanka, SA lost in SRL, and did not win series in India. There is no team who matches to the standards of Great WI of 80s and Aus of 1999-2007.

  • mrgupta on January 9, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    @tmd1: Ponting's has scored 29 100s (12 outside Aus) in the matches that Australia has Won and in this List top 4 are Aussies and the first Non-Aussie is Sachin with 20 100s (9 outside India) in Indian victories. Aussies have won more not because Ponting has scored 100 but simply because they had better bowling lineup. For winning matches you need bowlers to take 20 wickets. India has always been poor in bowling department whereas teams like Aus, WI and Eng have had great bowlers who have won matches for them.

  • mondotv on January 9, 2012, 4:49 GMT

    One thing Indian fans should note - Sachin is currently averaging over 60 in this series. Mad to get rid of him... but as far as re-vamping the team goes Australia has similar problems to India - when a number of great players retire with no succession planning expect your team to be in for a lean period. Even really good test players sometimes take a while to bed down and make their way in test cricket. One good thing - India has an enormous pool of talent to draw from, so maybe just accept that after Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag and Tendulkar(eventually) go that for 12 - 24 months the team will struggle at test level. And pick a Captain capable of nurturing good young players like Allan Border did after Chappell, Marsh and Lillee jumped ship. Not sure Dhoni is that kind of captain but he deserves a chance.

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:48 GMT

    i think that if India were to drop anyone, it should be Sehwag. I have looked at all the matches and I think that Sehway just does not have the temperanment for Test cricket. He keeps flashing at the ball outside off stump. Dravid plays great, and just was beaten by good deliveries. Rohit should be brought in.

  • avani on January 9, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    Keep it simple silly!!!!You have under 19 team and India A team. Organize more playing tours to Australia, SA, Eng and NZ to these teams. Watch the players who perform well with bat consistently on these tours. When sure they are good enough in these bouncy pitches give them chance in National Team. Dead old method of only looking at domestic performance will not do any good. I feel it is not a complicated issue if BCCI has will to do.

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:40 GMT

    The only batsmans who look comfortable with the bats in da middle are Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar and Ravichandran Ashwin! Rest of team India is a huge failure!

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:35 GMT

    I wish someone has a injury now to make life easier on a follower like me. I remember when my father was agitated the whole time when the talk came to drop Gavaskar form the one day team and Kapil from the team. Now the cycle is complete. I've seen trio debut Ranji trophy games, moving on to India and now folks are asking them to retire. Honestly its an attitude change. The team was a tad timid than I want them to be, especially on the second and third days of the second test. Please don't make any dramatic change. Gauti should be one down, Rahul should bat at 5, someone else should open the innings and close the lid on the top. We would solve our problems.

  • Raju_Iyer on January 9, 2012, 4:30 GMT

    To tmd : Don't expose your ignorance of the game; of course we all know that the name of the game is winning. And that happens when the other 10 players also contribute by making runs and taking wickets. If Ponting has played in over 100 winning tests, thats because Australian bowlers were able to take 20 opposition wickets consistently.

  • tapas.mahajan on January 9, 2012, 4:29 GMT

    It good to know that some of our former legends think out of BOX. Laxman may not perform well in Australia but his overseas performance specially against Australia is more than what any one else perform against Australia.Mr Manjrekar need to know one think .....once Sehwagh was out of form he get a call in Australia tiour as his performance was good against Australia. and Sehwagh score 195. It will be better to give a chance to Ojha & Rohit in place of Kohli & Ashwin.

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    I could only laugh at the above comments made by our former players. Drop would be foolish. Yes, he isn't performing. However he has a good record against Aussies. Neither kholi performed, so Laxman deserve a place ahead of Kholi. Rohit should wait for his chance. Kholi shold be sent up the order (No3). Our no 6 & 7 position is pathetic because those two are not performing. Play Laxman at no 7. If Dhoni and kholi fails, Laxman atleast can find a partner with lower down the order. Where Ashwin will help laxman building a partnership. Hence laxman gets runs so as India. I have seen laxman performing when atmost needed. Make him to do.

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    They should drop Kohli & include Rohit Sharma in the team.....

  • kv_aneesh on January 9, 2012, 4:21 GMT

    I wonder how the former players (and some commentators here) can say Rohit and Virat will play better cricket than Dravid or Laxman in Aus. If you are finding a better batsman in Rohit or Virat, it is because of their performance in India (batting wickets). How can you say they will perform better in Aus? Virat got 4 innings in Aus and he failed. I am sure that Rohit will also going to fall cheaply. Rohit is an excellent batsman but supporting him over Dravid or Laxman in Aus is something I can't understand. If you need them to play better cricket in Aus, you have to create sporting wickets in India and have them play on that wicket. Otherwise, we have to find some other talented under 19 players in place of Virat and Rohit, sooner or later.

  • joseyesu on January 9, 2012, 4:21 GMT

    Yeah, Drop Laxman, Dravid, Tendulkar in a phased manner. Sorry for Lax, we also have to give chance to the Rohit. Anyway the series is lost, then why not test the new players. Also please drop ishant sharma.

  • foursandsixes on January 9, 2012, 4:20 GMT

    @tmd it is pretty obvious mate that punter played in a team far ahead of any others in its generation, so stop saying that punter has played in 100 winning test matches. Lara played in a losing side so will you say he wasn't as good as Punter or SRT? You can debate over a number of areas of the merits of the three, but more than anyone - Punter benefits if you say number of wins. That is not the measure of individual genius, but collective team genius. If you are comparing purely individual genius, SRT and Lara are head of Punter.

  • We_Didnt_Start_the_Fire on January 9, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    Ludicrous statements from the so called 'experts' and those supporting their comments. Expect for Kapil no one else was ever a match winner even at home let alone in a away test. Two weeks back Ricky Ponting and Hussey too were too old for their team and today they are thesame old legends. R. Ashwin is the second highest run scorer, though he is not the specialist batsmen. I would keep him instead of Kohli and bring in Ojha. 43 runs from the next big thing in Indian Cricket, I am sure Laxman will get more than that for himself and will also mentor the tail to get atleast that. Could anyone please enlighten me when was the last time when the 'master' saved let alone 'won' a game for India while mentoring the tail. The first sigth of No.6 or No.7 batsmen, he looses his nerves and throws his wicket.

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:17 GMT

    People are talking about Laxman's average in the past 12 innings. Why doesn't anyone point out that GAmbhir hasn't scored a test century for 2 years and averages below 30 since 2010 when BAngldesh is excluded. If Sehwag and GAmbhir are dropped then dropping Laxman would be justifyble.

  • roymj88 on January 9, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    No we shouldn drop Virat or Laxman now.. Both are needed... It will not be fair for VVS if he is dropped at this stage of his career. For all his efforts and he being a selfless hero at times for the country, he should be left to decide his future as it should be the case for Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag etc...

    Virat shouldnt also be dropped just because of this one tour.. He is a promise for a bright future and dropping him will only add pressure on him and ruin his performance as a player.. Virat, Raina and Rohit are players of future and they should remain calm enough for their chances as it will come for sure as Sachin, Dravid and Laxman wont be here forever...

    Selectors need to be more careful as to how they deal with players careers..

  • ultimatewarrior on January 9, 2012, 4:14 GMT

    Don't worry Indian Cricket Fans now for another 18 months we don't have to play again in the away series so they can restart winning again.....and fans will just forget everybody because Indian People forgives everybody

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:14 GMT

    its such a shame the former greats are not showing emphasis on the need for good test cricket i the country..the former do not want to accept the ground realities.. The bcci has gone commercial on every aspect of the game..... the ground realities are 1) no test cricket for the young lads 9 and more for playing X1. kohli, ashwin, umesh, etc hardly have played !st class cricket expecially in the counties, 2) clearly evident that the youngsters playing for money and nothing else.... see gambhir played in IPL even he was injured badly, sehwag played IPL after being injured, yuvraj singh played ipl even he was suffering from the tumour, Zaheer plays only in the IPL, yousuf pathan can only play t20 3) the lack of discipline from the fast bowlers...ishant record good only against India where many are saying he bowled whole heartedly simply coming and throwing where ever he wants is no whole heartedly is he playing IPL even dhoni is forced to take him... 4) death of test crikcet i

  • foursandsixes on January 9, 2012, 4:13 GMT

    Guys don't worry, no away tests for 2 years after this. Just treat the Eng and Aus series as a nightmare and forget about it. Ind will continue to kick butt at home with Kohli, Raina, Yuvraj, Sharma, Pujara, etc. replacing the big 3 + few more. Ind will get back to #2 or 1 test ranking. The next few home series will give enough time to transition the seniors out and give more friendly conditions to juniors to establish themselves. They won't get their butt kicked for another 2 years after this.

  • vijayroy on January 9, 2012, 4:11 GMT

    I would suggest, please move up the batting order for a new batsmen. Either Virat or Rohit, so that thay can play without any pressure because they would be back by Sachin, Dravid and Laxman. So theer won't be any collapse. What we doing from last 6-8 months. The batting order would be: 1. Shehwag 2. Gambhir 3. Virat or Rohit 4. Sachin 5. Rahul Dravid 6. Laxman 7. Dhoni

  • ultimatewarrior on January 9, 2012, 4:04 GMT

    Reading across all comments I think Rohit Sharma is going to debut in Perth and to score 300+ and India is winning. These all comments are very similar to England series when everybody was waiting for Sehwag in 3rd Test.....bravo!

  • on January 9, 2012, 4:01 GMT

    Sourav Ganguly vacated a lace in the middle order years ago ........ and you still can not fill in that properly! so..... how can you comment like that!

  • on January 9, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    It is about time. In two years time we would lose Sachin, Dravid and Laxman for sure. If we do not stop all three playing every match now, that change may happen a bit too rapidly for everyone's comfort. We may save or win a few matches even with this team, but we will be in a very poor shape in two year's time. Rather than losing with old giants, it is better to loose with youngsters. Those saying that Kohli should be dropped before Laxman, should bear in mind that in spite of this being his test series in Australia, he is still averaging better than Laxman. Moreover, chances of him improving are far greater than Laxman's. Rohit should get his chances now and even if he fails, he and Kolhi must both get at least two full series of test cricket. If they fail in two successive series, replace them with another young blood. Laxman should retire right now, followed by Dravid in a year's time and Tendulkar by the end of 2013. India must find at least three good batsmen by then.

  • on January 9, 2012, 3:54 GMT

    Notwithstanding the din, is it really Kapil Dev who is talking about the retirement plans and the past laurels should not help you get in the team? Has he really forgot how "easily" he got from 400 to 434 , robbing us from what could have been the golden years of Srinath ?

  • Ganes.V on January 9, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    To drop Laxman in a WACA pitch would be a blunder because he is one man who can hit those horizontal batted shots which would be required in this wicket. We are hearing about a lot of bounce on the tracks and Laxman manages better than others in bouncy wickets. And giving a match to Rohit Sharma would be disastrous and could possibly spoil his future. It is a question whom to drop now !!!

  • sashi94 on January 9, 2012, 3:43 GMT

    What a Joke? Drop Laxman.. no way. For a future like Virat Kohli? The guy who can barely hold the bat when the ball is coming at 140 ks. Virat should be taking insults from the Aussie crowds and turning them into centuries but look at him, he looks miserable. Sehwag should go.. no point in the score reading 0-1 or 4-1 for both innings every match. Sehwag and Virat should make a place for Rahane and Rohit for the time being. I am sure rahane can slash at everything wide outside offstump if its that necessary. Sehwag and Virat out for Rahane and Rohit for 3rd Test. Fly in Chateshwar Pujara so that Rohit can open last test and Pujara can come down later.

  • satish619chandar on January 9, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    Well... One good innings by Gauti made people forget about his silly failures.. Though future is important, we can think about it once the series gets over.. Let VVS play.. Dravid open for Gauti and Rohit can fit into middle order.. Virat SHOULD play at 3 as that is the position where he had played in all his life and also he made his claim for test spot playing in top order in ODIs..

  • espncricinfofan on January 9, 2012, 3:39 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitass: Dravid as captain ...LOL!!!

  • nyroot on January 9, 2012, 3:34 GMT

    Give me a break ex-players !! When you yourself could not win a series in Auz, then how can you blame on others? Players like Dravid, Laxman, Sachin, and Kumble have achieved so many accomplishments and they know what's best for the country - more than you all here.

  • PS2012 on January 9, 2012, 3:17 GMT

    Do we need "lottery" players like "Sehwag" in the test team? He is very incosistent. He plays one big innings and gets out cheaply in the next ten and retains his 50+ average. It harms team's cause more than it helps. VVS and Dravid need to retire gracefully. Both are terrible fielders too. I don't consider Dravid a great slip fielder. Anyone who plays that many tests and stands in slips is bound to get the numbers. Nobody talks about hundreds of catches that he has dropped. Youngsters should be given chance and they will save 50-60 runs every innings too. Sachin is still playing consistently well (even if he is not scoring centuries, he is making useful scores) and should carry on and guide the youngsters.

  • subashiva on January 9, 2012, 3:14 GMT

    Everybody is blaming the players for not playing well. I think BCCI is the one which is responsible for the present condition of Indian team. They prepare slow/non-bouncing wickets at home so that the Indian players score more and win at home. By not preparing wickets similar to England/Aussie wickets and get our players play, play and play, India will never will WIN overseas - even you have 10 cricket stalwarts.

  • nyc_missile on January 9, 2012, 3:11 GMT

    For God's sake please stop criticizing Sanjay,he is dead right.Dropping a player when he is not consistent is the best way to bring out the best in a player.Remember Sehwag,he was dropped for a year and with all his deficiencies,its the hunger and fear of competition that brought out the best in him when he returned in Perth 2008.So let us stop obsessing over the records and drop a few seniors and blood the youngsters.If they turn out absolutely hopeless,we can always bring back the seniors IF they are up for it both physically and mentally as a measure of expediency.. Time to drop both Dravid & Laxman for the third test and bring in Rohit & Rahane,cant be a worse batting performance than Sydney..And please kick out useless Dhoni,he is the ROOT cause of the team's failures..

  • on January 9, 2012, 3:08 GMT

    Crazy?!? You want to win the series at the cost of VVS? Do you remember that Indian team is still struggling to get a replacement for Ganguly who retired back in 2008 and now talking about replacing a senior player like VVS with a "talented" youngster? It is the mindset of the players on how they are adjusting to Aussie pitches, none of the players (both bowlers and batsmen) have taken the responsibility to stick to the basics - taking just 4 wickets for 600-odd runs and playing loose shots.

  • on January 9, 2012, 3:01 GMT

    It all appears pretty stupid on the part of indians to ask for the head of seniors particularly VVS. VVS has single handedly won more matches for India than many of the other stars in the team.Kohli's technique is faulty whereas Rohit was found suspect against the rising ball many times.They will be fodder for the Aussies.Trust your seniors. They are still far better than the stars a penny that the IPL is churning out.

  • kalyanbk on January 9, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    All this talk is not helping the team who without doubt are low on confidence. The former cricketers are disappointing. Were they that much better than the current stalwarts? What is needed is to support the team as much as possible and give them confidence to get through the tour well. We are with you team India through thick and thin.

  • on January 9, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    India will continue to do poorly abroad until they learn from their mistakes. I see a very dark future for India's test team when the big three retire and blame must go to the BCCI and IPL because all the money on offer. Rohit Sharma hailed by many former greats as the next big thing in Indian Cricket has to only have good three months in IPL and he will be set for the year financially and once he or any young player are lured away with so much money how and why would he put in so much time for practice he no longer will have the desire to do well in test cricket as was the case with the current greats of India and the world.

  • spinkingKK on January 9, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    India shouldn't drop Laxman for Perth like Manjerkar said. India are 2-0 down and Laxman is showing the signs of coming good. This is not the time to press panic button and lose 4-0 with the help of youngsters like Maninder suggested. Also, putting Rohit Sharma into the Perth pitch, he may struggle. However, it is worth bringing him in. Contrary to the opinion of Manjrekar, I don't beleive that Kohli didn't look good. Kohli looked good when he was at the crease, until he gets out. However, I will be inclined to drop Kohli for Rohit in Perth, just because we need a change and Rohit has been in great form recently. Then see how Laxman, Dravid, Sehwag and Gambhir performs in perth. If they fail, then it is time to take hard decision for Adelaide and bring Kohli back in and, possibiliy, also include Rahane.

  • Ishaan1 on January 9, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    All said and done we should have won the first test match we fell 50 runs short in our first innings and gave away too many to the tailenders in the second..second test match was pure bad decision to bat first..u gotta trust your bowlers like how Dada did. I never agreed with Dhoni being the test captain in the first place ever since Kumble should have been either Gambhir or Sehwag. And Sachin refusing the captaincy was again a sign of a "weak" cricketer" sorry to say that. Even after playing for nearly 20 years if u say u can't handle the captaincy then I really don't know what to say to him. Dravid stepping down was an unfortunate move but then the pressure was such on the man that he had to do it. Ideally he should have carried on as test captain. Dada's retirement was premature who should have only retired after 2011 world cup. He was doing so well what was the need to to drop him from the ODI team down-under last time we toured here?That we won it is a different thing.

  • pkhunter on January 9, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    tmd1, that's the same id!otic, hackneyed response that's regurgitated here all the time. Ponting won because his team has been strong. India's camp has been fairly mercurial. If a player scores centuries, and the team doesn't win, could you please rationally explain what the heck you're thinking that player could have done? Not scored a century and focused on some magical way to "win" instead? It's a asinine argument.

  • ani4cric-india on January 9, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    it's time to re-think--not on captaincy....but about the future of this great Indian team or indeed it will become a glorious past just as hockey is today!!For that; we need at least some similar conditions in at least a few of our grounds so that players are used to all sorts of pitches; we need to have a proper rotation policy so that at a time only two/three of the 4 stalwarts(in batting line-up) play at a time giving ample opportunities to youngsters and ample rest to the seniors; we need fit players without injury to play in the ground-mind you,fielding standards and running between wickets are important aspects of game; and we should trust on our players and give them a run,esp. to youngsters.future is safe!!!move on--next game on 13th jan..focus>>

  • Raj12345 on January 9, 2012, 2:26 GMT

    Anyone remember Robin Singh, who was given raw deal. When indis losing so many ODIs and tried so many people in No:6 slot in ODI, nothing worked out. Finally some good people thought about Robin Singh and he contributed as much as possible to team and played more than 110 ODIs perfectly. Same story applicable to Badri, I am telling. This is right time think about Badrinath. His carrier almost killed by people like this. When Ganguly retired, Badri was there, but people were favoring Yuvi and then we lost few years trying to fit Yuvi, then Raina, then Kohli and now Rohit and next who is there to hide Badrinath chance. This is really and defintely raw deal given to Badri. He deserve chance now. Give him one slot and then try your experiment other slots with your so called ODI superstars. But one thing, who is going to drop Dhoni from test. Dhoni is best in ODI. We have to preserve the best Dhoni for our ODI future.

  • shivajipa on January 9, 2012, 2:24 GMT

    First of all drop these good for nothing advisers making such thoughtless statements. Is this a test series or a selection series? What is the reason VVS is in the team and that too against Aus? Dropping him would completely destabilize the team. Forget about Rohit Sharma or Kohli, this would scare the living everything out of every batsmen going before or after him. So this is another strategy to permanently stamp Rohit is not a test player or Kohli is not a test player. Make them play with VVS, that is when the confidence will come in younger players preparing them for future. Somebody was suggesting that they drop even Rahul and bring in new players like Badrinath. I am sure without the experienced senior players with them, the young players would not be able to stand even the verbal and mental attack by the aussies, forget about even facing their bowling. Same for any team or in any sport.

  • VRK7 on January 9, 2012, 2:23 GMT

    Why is it always VVS? People will stoping watching test cricket if they dare to sack him. VVS was responsible for where India stands now. Some cricketers who did no do any good for Indian cricket now talk all rubbish on TV. I love test cricket more than ODI and 20-20. Give some respect to the MAN.

  • on January 9, 2012, 2:22 GMT

    india lost because of batsmans? how many wickets we took on day 2 and 3 combine?

  • on January 9, 2012, 2:15 GMT


    bUT iNDIA---=????????????????????

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 9, 2012, 2:15 GMT

    This is a chance to make some aggressive changes - for future: Change test captaincy from Dhoni -> Sehwag (Dhoni may stay WK). Sehwag is more aggressive as a captain and will bat a little bit more seriously as a captain.

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 9, 2012, 2:07 GMT

    People asking for Bowler's heads obviously don't understand cricket that much. Fielding and Field setting was a problem, not bowling. Bowlers bowled well as long as the pitch assisted and our "greatest" captain dhoni didn't retreat into a defensive shell. Batting is a problem coz they couldn't bat to save test on a flat pitch (admittedly they were tired - but Sehwag, Dravid and Dhoni had no clue against Aussie bolwers - flat pitch or not). Laxman and Virat were truly unlucky in the 2nd innings.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 9, 2012, 2:06 GMT

    I sincerely hope VVS doesn't read the troll of Sanjay. I don't want VVS' confidence to be dented at this time. What a shameful way to talk in the middle of a series that too coming from the same bloke who was saying can we wait until the SCG test is over! Why not wait until the series is over, may I ask? Can you make the series into a win now? Stop all this drivel and realise that the first thing we need to do is drop Kohli and Dhoni from Perth; bring in Rohit and Karthik and make Dravid or VVS the Captain. DHONI NEVER DESERVED A PLACE IN THE TEST TEAM. WE SIMPLY HAVE TO UNDO THAT MISTAKE BY BRINGING IN DINESH KARTHIK AND SAYING GOODBYE TO DHONI FROM TESTS.

  • iphone1 on January 9, 2012, 2:04 GMT

    @Rumtap: Clarke produced a superb innings. Sometimes when you are in that form its difficlut to get the batsmen out. But mind you, he did have a life on 182. He was also troubled on the third morning by Ishant's spell and acknowledged/ accepted by Ian Chappell and the other commentators on Channel 9. Anyway coming back to this issue poor VVS, has to pay the price for other faltering batsmen just because age is not on his side. It could have easily translated into Ponting or Hussey being axed if Australia had not performed. This is our mess and we will try to sort it out. Just enjoy your victories and do not rub it in.

  • fanner on January 9, 2012, 2:04 GMT

    Simply fly Cheteshwar Pujara immediately to Australia, pick him in playing 11and India's problems would be solved.

  • Cricko_Lover on January 9, 2012, 2:03 GMT

    India Cricket will bounce back. I don't know how many have you watched the Movie "Money Ball". The strategy in the movie should be take into consideration building Indian Test team. To me Good Openers and good Leg Break bowler will make a lots of difference in the Test Team. To my knowledge, I believe Wasim Jaffer is one of the perfect Opener which India had with absolutely perfect technique. A Right Hand Leg Break bowler is what India test team require at the moment with technically correct openers. Middle order requires experienced players and re structuring Middle Order is going to leave Indian Team to start all over again and Indian Fans will have to wait at least 5-7 years to see a Win in foreign soil. Sehvag and Gambir is not an ideal openers for India. Sehvag is more like Do or Die, Gambhir is a One-Day material.Nourish Virat,Rohit,Abinav Mukund,A.Rihane..

  • DebashisCalcutta on January 9, 2012, 1:56 GMT

    Wow !!!! these former players were the ones who were going ga-ga about the Indian players . Maninder for example , made a demi god out of Gambhir (I guess Delhi connection)... they (apart from Sanjay Manjrekar) need less than a second to change their opinions , and sadly that includes Kapil also ...Sad that India never produced an Imran Khan , leader in a true sense ...

    Guys , please note the "tone and words" of Ravi Shasti once the indian players(and Tendulkar in particular) score a few runs in dead pitches

  • SushanthBatthula on January 9, 2012, 1:54 GMT

    The first 2 test matches were suicidal - pathetic performance. Kudos to Sri Sachin Tendulkar :) and R Ashwin for stepping in with some valuable runs . WACA - PERTH which is one of the worlds speed/bouncy pitches I would love to see Team India to Play Out of their SKIN and prove that they are one of the Best Test Playing nations. I would love to see ROHIT SHARMA replace VVS and V Kohli (last chance) at play @ No 3 for the upcoming Perth test. It would be great our seam/swing bowler Praveen Kumar be sent to Oz if he passes the Fitness Test. Fingers Crossed - Go India Go :)

  • OutCast on January 9, 2012, 1:54 GMT

    India performed badly in Aus? Hold on, did India ever perform GOOD in Aus & won series? NOPE ... then why do they keep telling India performed badly?? India performed as USUAL, in other words, INDIA PERFORMED AS USUAL AS THEY PERFORM IN ANY GIVEN COUNTRY OUTSIDE SUBCONTINENT. Period.. Just praise Aus for beating a team that looked excellent on papers... kudos to AUS... always learn to praise the winners and don't cry foul for losing against a world beater!

  • Ghelanis on January 9, 2012, 1:53 GMT

    We should allow the same team the opportunity to bounce back in the series v Australia. Ashwin seems to have a natural batting flair.Needs to be encouraged and be given that status and responsibility in the top seven.Perhaps a left arm spinner would complete/complement the bowling arsenal.Just a thought.2 spinners and 3 quickies should take up the responsibility to defend the scores of the 7 batsmen;while practicing on improving their own batting.Whenever batting fails, bowlers should be able to fight it out for us.Have a look at all the boundaries scored in the Aussie innings.Any opposition could've put those balls away.After the 3 early wickets, the bowlers had let off the pressure.Line and length was below par.Runs scored by the tail in Melbourne was due to the same lapse.Intensity on the field needs to be kept by maintaining line and length.A little fine tuning and guidance from the captain and the seniors, the bowlers will do the trick.We have exceptional talent to cherish !!

  • susrila on January 9, 2012, 1:46 GMT

    For all people call for Lakshman's head, he is the person who has contributed more to victories than his illustrious contemporaries, please remember. When others are not performing it is one odd match and they deserve one more chance, but with Lakshman immediately after 1/2 tests you start calling for his head, leaving the other much elder players. Inspite of being at no.6 nobody in the world cricket would have contributed so much for victory of the team.

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 9, 2012, 1:32 GMT

    The players who looks most unfortable are Dravid and Sehwag, not VVS. But not former player would jeopardise their career by saying Dravid has to go. (Personally I don't know what happened - Dravid was managing beautifully in Eng. Is it swing plus bounce ? Or did Eng not try inswinger/cutters to Dravid ??). Anyway - if India continue to lose tests outside, it'll be end of test cricket as the fickle indian fans like me will stop watching them!

  • on January 9, 2012, 1:26 GMT

    Dropping seniors or bringing new faces will have absolutely no impact. What's needed is changing the nature of wickets/pitches in India so that younger folks get used to something similar to what they'll need to face abroad.

  • tmd1 on January 9, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    rsurya how many of those 51 centuries resulted in a win.Ponting has played in over 100 winning test matches for his 40 centuries.The name of the game is winning.

  • Precioustar84 on January 9, 2012, 1:20 GMT

    We have about 4 players that USED to be able to play well abroad but people won't accept that they are just too old. How long to the selectors want to live in past stats?? India's big NAMES on one list can give you the impression that its the best team but if you choose to ignore there's an issue, we will keep losing. There are 4 heads in the team that have lost how they USED to play and score BIG. You cannot expect them to change at this age. We all respect what they have done for Team India over the years but it would be foolish to not think about our nation and future of Indian cricket. Currently Sachin is performing while Dravid and Laxman are not. Dravid performed in Eng when Sachin and Laxman didn't. So it leaves Laxman out first, and Sehwag should also go. Dhoni out of test too but no one else to captain so he's excused. Cricinfo please publish

  • Rumtap on January 9, 2012, 1:09 GMT

    I found it very interesting that before this series started the Indian supporters on here were going wild with their comments after Australia lost to the Kiwis. All the talk about how much better their batting line up is compared to the Aussies and how Tendulker would carve us up. It just hasn't happened (Tendulker is in good form but has not yet produced a great knock).

    The problem that no one seems to be talking about is not India's batting, it is their bolwing and feilding. Clarke could have batted all 5 days against that attack. He just simply wasn't challenged.

  • on January 9, 2012, 1:08 GMT

    Look it's still only a good game, Aussies bowled very well, that's a fact, even young star Kohli had a hard time, indian cricketers so used to short format of the game especially since IPL 20/20 in full force in India trying to change a team in middle of test game not a good idea, let the captain and coach decide do not put them under pressure, it's hard playing abroad, expectations are there but we also have to appreciate the tough competition and start learning quickly, having watched the game plan Aussies came up with all we need is a good game plan to counter attack.

  • on January 9, 2012, 1:06 GMT

    VVS instills fear in the Australians and leaving him out will be a monumental blunder. Sehwag scores once heavily in a Series and tons of Runs on Flat Roads. Bring Ajinkya Rahane or push Dravid to Open. That Way the opening batsmen could Play out some Overs and Rohit, Kohli and Sachin can play without pressure. (Hope you will publish and dhoni dunan Would Read this Suggestion. Aus bowling is only As good as Indians and batting Too Mans Overs will wilt them.

  • Ms.Cricket on January 9, 2012, 1:05 GMT

    The only current Team India players who are genuinely disappointed with his own performance in the Test series are the ones who have said they will give up IPL so that they can focus on getting better for Test matches for India. Guess how many current Indian team members have done that? None. Look at Michael Clarke who gave up T20 to focus on his skills and now can bat for 3 days without any problem. No Indian has scored a hundred in this series while Australia had three (five if you count Clarke's triple hundred as three!) in one innings itself.

  • Precioustar84 on January 9, 2012, 1:04 GMT

    When will some people realize that its going to be sad either way that some of our players will have to retire sooner than later but relying on PAST REPUTATIONS will not win us matches abroad!! Would you rather see all 3 exits at once or one at a time? Take your pick. And it won't be shocking to see them perform well when they all return to India and once again we start praising them and then they continue to stay in the team until next abroad venture. That's not how it is supposed to be. I rather see us losing with youngsters in the team because they do need exposure to conditions outside of India. Its better to see them battle tough conditions early in their careers so they can get accustomed to it faster. Lets think LONG-term rather than SHORT-term. Those who don't want Lax to get dropped then would it be better if it was Dravid or Sachin instead? True batting is not the only issue but Ashwin himself had said pitch was dead so its clear batting needs fixing first.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 9, 2012, 1:03 GMT

    Drop Dhoni and get a new wicketkeeper and make either Zaheer or Dravid to captain. Dhoni's captaincy has been a farce since the moment he took the reigns and 2 WC wins don't mean he was a good captain, it just means he had a good team. Even in WC he made the simple mistake of putting Sresanth instead of Ashwin in the final. Thank god the rest of the INdian team were strong enough to still win

  • johnathonjosephs on January 9, 2012, 1:00 GMT

    Agreed VVS does not have much time left and would like him to retire AFTER the Aus series. For the idiotic selectors, Virat should be given his first couple of Tests IN the subcontinent, not outside. Who had the wonderful idea that he should debut in the West Indies, play in England, and the play in Australia, without playing matches in India? Rohit is good, extremely good, but he is extremely injury prone and not someone to look for a long term stint. Would drop Kohli for next 2 matches and give Rohit the turn. Then after this series, if VVS doesn't retire, drop him and include Kohli/Rohit. When Rohit gets injured is the problem and I would go for Rahane or Mukund for the long term to replace both Tendulkar and Dravid. All in all, don't drop VVS, he had a big role in the win over SA and Aus last year. 2 Test matches and you drop him?

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:53 GMT

    Why can't we just accept that Australia played a better team and played better cricket. Period. Since the batting units of both teams are quite comparable, let us hope that Indian batters may get lucky to deliver more than their Aussie counterparts, to more than offset the relative weakness of Indian pace attack. We still don't have a pace attack comparable to those of England, South Africa, and Australia.The results are a simple reflection of that fact.

  • Ghelanis on January 9, 2012, 0:52 GMT

    Dropping Laxman would be a shame. He deserves more honour/recognition than that.We need to learn to put up with failures gracefully.No one wants a win more than the players themselves.Let's not be more catholic than the Pope.Or a hotter Kettle than the tea in it.When down, that's when the players need the support the most.It will restore their spirit. Being negatively critical/ condescending does more damage than the intended good.The players' accomplishments need to be considered before slamming them in the media.They are sma rt enough to understand when to retire. Considering new talent for all the experience that the trio has abroad is naive.The notion that losing with new talent instead of with the seniors is also unfair to the seniors.No previous generation has accomplished more than the current players overseas.Let us all believe in them.Let us hone and strengthen our bowling and fielding strategies.Focusing on line and length is critical.Addition of left arm spinner will work!

  • theRule19 on January 9, 2012, 0:49 GMT

    Dropping players will not always serve the cause of a team performing badly overseas. One cannot get players like Sachin, Dravid and Laxman very often. You can always drop players when they are performing badly but it does not matter who you choose, if the home pitches are slow, low and placid, it cannot help to produce good players. One might get a reasonably good batsman, but cannot get a good fielder or a bowler or an allrounder for that matter. Ofcourse the seniors cannot play forever, and so it is better that the young players are faced with abroad like conditions at home to improve their track record outside India. What BCCI should look at is to improve the quality of wickets in India that could improve and help produce good allround players in the long run. For now though India should play young players in Sharma, Rahane and Kohli in place of the seniors to give them experience in overseas conditions. Much like what teams like Aus., SA, England, etc. are doing.

  • mannan_ma on January 9, 2012, 0:45 GMT

    Why is everybody including former players after VVS LAXMAN? why should he be the sacrificial lamb? why not tendulkar ?why not dravid ?why not sehwag ?why not gambhir? take into account how many matches VVS has won for India and also how many he has saved for India. bring out the statistics for test wins and tests saved by the other "so called greats" in the team and Ii am sureVVS will come out way ahead of others in terms numbers in his favour.respect the guy .give him his due. Include rohit in place of sehwag and move dravid up the order while retaining kohli so that we dont loose him for good. Dhoni needs to do things differently too. like bring in ojha. dhoni did the right thing when he opted to bat in the sydney test after winning the him where its due.

  • rsurya on January 9, 2012, 0:40 GMT

    Some fools don't understand that each century by sachin not only adds to his personal records but also adds 100 runs to the team total, and he had done it 51 times more than any other. Only jealous people speak bad about his records.

  • anti-dictatorial-attitude on January 9, 2012, 0:40 GMT

    Please who are complaining about Sanjay's statement about dropping VVS are missing the point. Nobody is saying VVS is a bad player. But under the losing circumstances they are in, it would be better give a youngster a chance to learn. VVS is not going to learn anything as part of a losing team. I would go even further in dropping Rahul and give way another youngster. I do understand I would be criticized for saying that. Look at the near future when all the three retire, you bring in youngsters and then losing streak will continue even longer. If you want a semi-senior player who has been giving raw end of the deal, please bring Badrinath as he is a solid player for test matches especially in the middle slot.

  • ramkmu on January 9, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    Does India have a coach? Does he have a role in all this?

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:30 GMT

    Its tough to drop laxman because he just has that experience and he is coming off a nice knock of 66. drop kohli and bring in Rohit. Kohli is intimidated.

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    Absolutely nonsense. Sachin should continue in both oneday and test as long as he wants. Nobody has the ability to match his current wonderful form and future as well. He got right to call his own decision

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 9, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    It has been more than an year since one certain gentleman scored a century on an overseas tour. Wonder what do you mean by a middle-order batsman with the luxury of Sehwag and Dravid in front of you and VVS behind you in the batting order? Sometimes even VVS will have to jump over you in the batting order if the batting conditions are difficult. Who is that batsman? He chokes big time when he has to play the survival game. Who is he? ;)

  • CupCricket on January 9, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    Friends...... History of Indian cricket, they just cant do better outside Mohali, Calcutta, Bangalore, Ahmadabad, Hyderabad etc, So we have to wait for some good results in next home series.

  • bobagorof on January 9, 2012, 0:20 GMT

    If ONLY someone had mentioned sometime over the last 4 years that this might happen, and that it might be a good idea to blood young players to be able to carry India when their established players fall out of form or retire. I wish someone had seen this coming!

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:09 GMT

    Whoever plays in Perth, they will be facing Harris, Hilfy, Siddle and Starc, who combined will prove lethal to all. At best you can expect one or two Indian batsmen to make struggling decent scores. So you may as well throw two youngsters in the deep end and see if they swim. If India is lucky then an Aussie batting collapse will gift them the game. If not, will it finally be time for changes in Adelaide, where the pitch is such that Indian batsmen have their best chance? As Martin Crowe said "only three things in life are certain: death taxes and a century at Adelaide".

  • dsig3 on January 8, 2012, 23:58 GMT

    Things can change very quickly. Every team goes through a period where their seniors are finishing and there are not clear cut successors. India will find good players same as Aus suddenly found good players after their rebuilding. Also I think Perth will be very competitive, I hope Aus win but I am still fearfull of India's batting lineup. They have scored too many runs against us over the years to write them off.

  • jdhillon on January 8, 2012, 23:53 GMT

    Same dumb ideas again by our great players - drop the players..This is not a solution to the problem..The core problem is not able to play in seam and bouncy condition, and 1Day/T20 mentality. And. the solution is each players must be required to play in English conditions for at least 2 months/year and they must be restricted from playing T20 matches.

  • wernbrian on January 8, 2012, 23:53 GMT

    Let Ashwin open the innings.

  • on January 8, 2012, 23:52 GMT

    Of All Manjrekar asking Laxman to be dropped, really funny as he has never established himself as a batsman even on Indian soil. Laxman on the other hand has been the saviour for the past 7/8 yrs whenever India got into trouble. India does not have the infrastructureor the framework even though they have loads of money to pump out players like Australia or SA (even though they are chokers :) ). Rather than cry about what is happening now, we need to look into the future to build such a framework to churn out talent cricketers and have some bench strength so we do not fail miserably like in England.

  • Indians_Rulez on January 8, 2012, 23:47 GMT

    Are you SERIOUS Manrekar?? drop vvs and get rohit?? Lol, still cant stop laughing. I would drop Virat Kohli and Ishant sharma or Umesh Yadav FOR Rohit Sharma and Irfan Pathan...and atleast pick Bhajji in test series.

  • MH19 on January 8, 2012, 23:43 GMT

    I am a Sri Lankan and the steps are very well explained by all former Crickerters and well said.I saw one comment that when you loose even with the big guns its better to loose with yougsters who will get the expirience and this will serve the future well. Sri Lanka Selectors and the board also now must start gearing to take tough decisions on non performers or the so call seniors in the team if not SL Cricket is going from bad to worst.Listed to Russel Arnolds analysis well explained of SL Future.

  • Farce-Follower on January 8, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    There are currently two gentlemen, none in the media (Cricinfo included) or in the cricketing establishment ever dare to say a word against : the present #4 and #7 in the Indian team. The former will play until his pursuit of some record or the other ceases. The latter will play until the commercial interests of the Chief Selector, the Board President and his own are no longer perfectly aligned. Cricinfo please publish (and not scuttle my posts as usual).

  • heathrf1974 on January 8, 2012, 23:37 GMT

    I think drastic changes are too late for the side. Wait until the end of the series and then begin blooding young players in the more friendly conditions at home. I am amused by former players criticising the current crop when sides they were with never won a series in Australia either.

  • Alexk400 on January 8, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    @nlambda nailed it. Indian team players do not want sachin score a century. Epecially openers. They are challenging sachin who can't play new ball. I think it kinda negative. But that is what going on.

  • on January 8, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    Those who ever wants laxman to be dropped...I want them to stop watching cricket for sometime and do something else.......

  • mtrivedi19 on January 8, 2012, 23:30 GMT

    I dont think dropping Kohli will result in loss of his confidence instead it will make him work harder. Dropping Laxman will be really foolishness at this stage of the series. If really kohli loses confidence than he's doesnt have it in him to be there, and look at the example of Yuvi who has been dropped numerous times and then again made a comeback in test side. And the biggest issue here is mindset of players who are failing and trying to score quickly on day 1 and thrid innigs(thrid day of test match) where need to stay at crease even with low scoring rates, wear the bowler out and then start attacking them. you just dont start attacking when they are running in with full steam. Dont pick players for one-dayers and testmatch after they make big in IPL matches. Why did Kohli didnt start with playing test if he was really a good player, same with Rohit. Time to change test captain, I have said before and i will say again you'll will see different dhoni in tri series & T20.

  • on January 8, 2012, 23:29 GMT

    If ever there was a time when India needed to plan for future, then it was during 2007-08 when Dravid was going through a horror run. It was the best time to drop RD lower down the order and groom a youngster at No. 3 with seniors around. And why is no one talking about Sehwag and Dhoni at all? Sehwag has failed in SA, Eng and now here in Aus, Dhoni has NEVER done anything of note with bat in tests and his captaincy is ultra-defensive, depriving the team of any chance of getting wickets.

  • kirkeet-fan on January 8, 2012, 23:28 GMT

    Funny how nobody's talking about Dhoni here!!! The man has not been able to mobilize or inspire the troops whenever things have got tough in the last 2 years. One great innings albeit in the WC finals, does not guarantee a place in the team, leave alone the captaincy. He has to go, Parthiv Patel would have been the ideal choice to open which would have given the team the extra bowler. I honestly can not see Sehwag doing any better than Parthiv against this speedsters. By not including the little guy, Dhoni and the selectors have done us the worst disservice as Sehwag's failure against strong bowling attacks overseas has been very well documented. This hurts the pride and hearts of true test cricket fans in India but with BCCI what else can you expect?

  • TequillaGuy on January 8, 2012, 23:21 GMT

    So Kohli gets to stay in team just because he is young? he has looked so out of place. Laxman got out to an unplayable delivery last innings and was unlucky in the first test match, getting out to his fav shot. I am so so sick of these so called experts wanting to get rid of the great batsmen for young guns. These so called young guns have failed in ODIs outside India, forget about tests. The only guy who has looked decent is Pujara and he is out due to injury. Dropping Laxman just cause Kohli is young is the most absurd reasoning I have ever heard

  • cricinfo_2010 on January 8, 2012, 23:19 GMT

    drop ishaanth and ashwin, bring ajyinka and rohith in. try to draw the match, instead of losing. that should be first step. dhoni, sachin, viru and rohith can bowl and as effective as dropped bowlers

  • on January 8, 2012, 23:19 GMT

    India must start preparing for new players to take up where Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Rahul Dravid left off, once those three great Indian players retire. Tendulkar, Dravid & Laxman should've retired after the England tour, and give the Indian selectors a chance to look at other options-after all, Tendulkar, Laxman & Dravid can't play on forever.

  • indianpunter on January 8, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    @moBlue, yes, laxman made a 50 on a 'road' in the 2nd innings. What did he do in England.? The joke's on you, mate. We all read your prediction of an Indian win in Sydney when you commented after the 3rd days play. Introspect before laughing at others!

  • StaalBurgher on January 8, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    Well... I did predict before the England series that India's number 1 ranking is artificial because they had not played any of SA, ENG or AUS away in over two years and that hoopla of them taking their "rightful" place at no.1 is going to be short-lived. Just as England's stay will also not last for too many series' in a row.

    India remain a good side obviously but that 20+ point gap was ridiculous. The top 4 teams are all within 10 points of each other. No one has any real sustainable edge over the rest.

  • Lord_Dravid on January 8, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    seriously no one needs to be dropped.., everyone except kohli has scored a 50 this series..the key is we need to play without PRESSURE and more PATIENTLY. As for bowling i pray to god ishant/zak/yadav dont bowl middle/leg which allowed aus to score 600+..we need to bowl good line and lenght. THE FACT IS AUS ARENT THAT GOOD ITS JUST INDIA ARE UNDERPERFORMING WHERE THEY ARENT APPLYING THE BASICS E.G FIELD SETTINGS, GOOD LINE/LENGHT BOWLING. If we realise our silly mistakes then im sure we'll be fine in perth.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:58 GMT

    It does not matter what happens to young guns, they should be giiven chance as sehwag has proven and time again that he can not be trusted.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:54 GMT

    Musings on the current Indian batting The wall has a hole The god has forgotten his goal (100-100's) The Nawab has no Jawab and VVS now stands for very very short innings

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Maybe they're keeping Virat just so he can get pitch experience for the one day series :)

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:49 GMT

    I think, Rohit Sharma definitely needs to be included in playing eleven. Cheteshwar Pujara, Suresh Raina, Manoj Tiwari are a few names to make the team. I don't know where we have forgotton Saurabh Tiwari, and Manoj Pandey, those are the players who have a big heart and given a little coaching, can destroy any attack even if it is test cricket.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:49 GMT

    Maninder Singh had the most pertinent point. What many people here do not seem to get is that in the current situation of 2 down and an impossible to win series, it doesn't matter how rich the history of the big 3 are, and whilst the replacements may well fail, at least you are going some way to blooding these youngsters which is badly needed. Tendulkar is the only one who should absolutely stay as even now he is past his prime he is still head and shoulders above every other Indian player on current form, and you need his experience. That's the short term solution. The only long term solution is for BCCI to prepare at least 2 bouncy, seaming pitches in India, even if they only allow visiting teams to play on one of them per tour. Not only will this give your players the required skills to compete overseas, but it will be good for cricket and good for the fans.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:41 GMT

    The truth of the matter is that apart from Tendulkar and to a lesser degree Ashwin with the Bat and Dravid in England before that the rest are a collective waste of space.

  • Nick_Pats on January 8, 2012, 22:40 GMT

    Why do they continue to employ Manjrekar...?

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:33 GMT

    The most obvious candidates to drop are Sehwag and Gambhir, as they haven't got the technique to play at the top on bouncy wickets in a Test match. Sehwag may be get success 1 out of 20 times, but is that what we need from a test opener? Both of them have not shown any promise to stay long and take the shine off the ball and test the will of Aus bowlers. Till you have this problem nailed out, doing any change in the lower middle order is nonsense. If Dravid and Rohit can open the innings, it will come good more often than what we have from current pair... we need players with good temperament to play the test cricket. In future Cheteshwar (when he is back from injury) will be a great number 3 and Jadeja can be a good all-rounder to have in the test team.

  • pkhunter on January 8, 2012, 22:33 GMT

    Pavan_2000. Speak for yourself. A lot of us agree completely with Manjrekar and Maninder, and what they suggest is in fact the right thing for India.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:32 GMT

    i really hope all of BCCI, selectors and captain, coach and all players in team read this

  • nlambda on January 8, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    @haq33 : I will wager a guess you are from Pak. We beat Australia when everyone else - including your team - was being blown out of sight, and the Test #1 was for slightly longer than 5 minutes: 1.5 years, which is 1.5 years more than what Pak have managed to be #1 for. For a team which has a 0-12 record in Australia over past 4 series, you sure talk quite loud.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Just shows how people conveniently forget how many matches VVS has won/saved for India. To be fair, I think he should be allowed to play the remaining 2 matches. We don't have any away matches in the next 2 years. Seniors could be rotated/rested & give opportunities to the youngsters till we find some stability (play just 2 out of Sachin/Dravid/Laxman) there by accommodating 2 youngsters. Mukund could also be tried instead of Sehwag/Gambhir. Selectors should have done this earlier than this. But still I don't have much hopes on our away performances until BCCI wakes up & do something about the pitches used for domestic matches. We could still prepare spinning wickets for test matches since that is our strength, but at least make some bouncy/seaming/swinging wickets for domestic matches. This would also help develop fast bowlers. Our bowlers don't know what length to bowl on a helpful pitch

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 8, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    It is now safe to say that Sanjay Manjrekar and his likes are among the first persons in India to call for VVS' head prematurely. Vengsarkar has just gone over the top, with the poorest of conclusions devoid of any logic or facts to back up. Vengsarkar as usual kept quiet in 2011 and all of a sudden is going gaga that the team is entirely dependent on Tendulkar even after more than two decades. Dear Myopic Colonel, India won more abroad series in the absence of Sachin. Please do yourself a favour by sifting through Statsguru. Thanks a million to Kumble, Dravid and VVS for giving us those abroad series wins inspite of Sachin's absence, unless you are asking avid Indian Cricket followers to delude themselves, just like you. Vengsarkar is known for his utter tosh and anti-Dravid stance either in belittling him publicly or in not acknowledging his priceless contributions in our overseas achievements. Why am I not surprised with The Myopic Colonel?!! He can't be taken seriously.

  • bhavin1234 on January 8, 2012, 22:17 GMT

    I agree wtih some of comments that l would prefer losing with young guns instead of declining giants. Also agree that domestic players as well as current team players should be playing more county cricket in other country like England, Australia or South Africa instead of playing Money making IPL!!!! If we looking for long term outcome, then it is time to drop seniors gradually and bring some young blood.

  • CRVN on January 8, 2012, 22:04 GMT

    Basically the failure to score big in 1st innings in Melbourne and batting first after winning the toss in 2nd test is the two major faults so far. During Gary Kirstein period, he kept on asking Shewag to play min of 50 Balls and after that to look for any kind of strokes. That Shewag is not doing adds to India's woes. To get out of this off stump problem, Sachin used to take offstump guard to tackle the outside edges to slip garden, previously. Basically nobody including Manjerekar and other prominent older players don't have the playing experience to talk about the exits of VVS, Dravid, Sachin, Shewag. VVS is always Very VERY Special. You don't have any backup players to replace him. I will rate shewag a better player,only when if keeps scoring big in second innings. Gambir should know, he has Abhinav Mukund running hot to get his place, if his bad run continues. You should replace a player if only you have a more technical player in your bench. Not for the sake of can be tried.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    Last series with Aus Laxman helped India to win why these people are after latchu instead of Dhoni's strategy first test they played underpressure, secondtest big mistake batting first and made all condusive to Aussies on flattrack later Dhoni had to rethink his strategies of fielding and bowling I would have given preference to Rohit and Tiwari they had excellent scores in domestic seasons they should be considered for the future prospects

  • SmartStrategy on January 8, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    This ridiculous statement to remove Laxman. He has been instrumental in many many wins more than Sachin in tough conditions in second innings. A genuine match-winner. Aussies are scared of him more than anybody else. Rohit should play Perth test in place of Virat. India MUST win Perth to get back some pride and make sure that this series is not a repeat of England tour. Virat will continue to excel in One-Day in overseas, but Tests only at home. You have to see how technically sound a player, not just scoring a hundred in practice game. Rohit Sharma is technically superior and can fight Oz bowlers. Selectors, DO NOT make any drastic changes now. You have time to do so in the next 2-yrs when India is playing a lot at home.

  • McGorium on January 8, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    A few responses to comments... 1) Sehwag works only when the batsmen after him are in good form, and the #2 is a solid batman. Today, we have neither. Gambhir is clearly not a test-level opener, nor is the middle order what it used to be. Sehwag cannot be blamed for the way he plays; it is not unknown; his is a conscious choice. 2) VVS is a lousy outfielder and lousy runner (always been). He has been a fine servant of Indian cricket, but I think he needs to go first. He has little contribution to make if he cannot bat. 3) Dravid would be better off playing down the order, like Ponting has done. For the future, I would back Gambhir going down at #3, and a solid opener at the top to complement Sehwag. In the end, VVS, Dravid and Tendulkar will have to retire within the next 18 months. It has to be a phased process, and induct youngsters in a phased manner. I think manjrekar is right, that VVS has to go first (#5/6 is an easier spot to bat generally, and therefore also for a youngster)

  • hunksurat on January 8, 2012, 21:44 GMT

    Making wholesale changes to team is not the answer. We have to build the team gradually. Currently, only Sachin (to some extent) and Zaheer are peforming decently. Rest of our cricket team is mediocre at the best. They all seem like players from associate nations (no offense). None of them have even tried to play at their best. There are some players how at least look like they belong here but rest all can be discarded. (ones who can be discarded: Gambhir, Laxman, Dhoni, Virat, Ishant and Ashwin). Thats half the team and one does not win matches on few individuals. To top that we have a world class player (SRT) who only thrives in favorable conditions (off late). He keeps scoring 60-80 may be a hundred but thats not helping. We need a blistering innings from someone to change the course of the series. Which is not going to happen if they do not believe in themselves. 4-0 is the score that all Indian fans should be ready for. To sign off we need New captain who can make runs abroad.

  • ramgoat on January 8, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    I am from the WI ,I cant understand why Manjrekar is calling for Laxman to be drop.The guy win so many matches for India.why not drop Tendullkar the guy (Tendulkar)never shows up in the big occassion.He is only playing for stats,he ever won any big games for India?Well if the selector wants to drop Laxman they might as well drop Tendulkar too ,because he is not winning matches for india .He should retire and give someone else a chance.

  • Nampally on January 8, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    Blaming seniors is not going to solve anything. Actually it is Tendulkar who has kept that high 50's average in tact while the rest juniurs & seniors could not show the same record.But before Srikant & Dhoni keep blaming the batsmen, I like to ask what the bowlers did? 620 runs for one wicket in 5 sessions of play must be a world record. No one even mentions how badly the Indian bowlers fared. Substituting Rohit for VVS will not solve the problem. India needs wicket taking bowlers. Apart from ZAK there aren't any in this squad.What is the answer? Bring in reinforcements, of course. But Srikant & Dhoni don't want to do this because it will result in exposing their poor squad selection.Blaming the batsmen is distracting the focus on bowling which is the real culprit.These 2 guys must put India's interests ahead of their EGO.Get new Bowlers. If they don't like Irfan get alternates Dinda(Kolkatta), Singh(Rajasthan), both over 135 KPH.For goodness sake stop blaming & start corrective action

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:30 GMT

    Why should Laxman be dropped? First fill the vacancy created by Ganguly then think about replacing other legends like Laxman, Dravid, and Sachin. Think about doing this only if those batsmen's want to opt out of cricket on their own. Do not force them and do not add pressure on them. They also want to perform well and serve their country. I think people who want Laxman to be replaced by other batsman are crazy....

  • kasyapm on January 8, 2012, 21:27 GMT

    @Naveed Khan, you are spot on!

  • Dhutugemunu on January 8, 2012, 21:26 GMT

    Right now India can't win this Border-Gavaskar Trophy. Everybody is complaining about Big three. Sachin 226, Dravid 112, VVS 71. What about other batsmen? Have they done any better? The answer is No. Shewag 108. He's keep playing his mindless shots. Let's say his natural Cricket which is not good for Test Cricket. Gambhir 99. Chasing the wide delivery and making behind the wicket catch practice sessions. Kohli 43. He is a good player in ODI. But not in Tests. Oh boy, he knows how to make inappropriate gestures to the crowd, humiliating entire Indian nation. Dhoni 88. Again great ODI player who doesn't belong to Test Arena. If you look at the SCG Test, Indians lost 20 wickets but Australians only 4. That means Indian Bowling is just below ordinary which includes Zaheer. As long as Bowlers can't take 20 wickets you can't win matches. What Indian team should do now is at least try to draw the last two Tests. If not it will be 4-0 lost again as we saw last Summer in England. Good Luck Guys

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:24 GMT

    I would drop Virat for Perth and play Rohit Sharma to get a fresh mind in but after the Australian tour, I will drop Laxman and play Virat for long term..we must not forget we need to square series as well so it will be good to give Laxman 2 more tests in Aus soil before dumping him...also I have a hunch, Laxman may retire at the end of this series...

  • Mr_Anonymous on January 8, 2012, 21:18 GMT

    Also, I want to add one more thing. Chetan Chauhan's comment is fair but inappropriate. Pujara maybe a good future no. 3 but he is still recovering from injury as far as I know and is not even in the squad for Australia. There is no point in mentioning his name and causing confusion. I understand that everyone is disappointed at the lack of performance but for the sake of sanity, please think about what you are saying in the context of the question of selection for the next test.

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    Gambhir, Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Kohli, Rohit, Dhoni, Ashwin, Zaheer, Vinay/Mithun,Yadav .. This may be ideal to try in next game. Play without pressure Just try to put some fight and salvage some pride.

  • maheshrathi on January 8, 2012, 21:12 GMT

    The most important point is we cannot drop Virat Kohli. He is our future. Also, you cannot just blame our batting for the defeats. The key is for us to prepare sporting pitches back home. Also, I think Dhoni's captaincy has left a lot to be desired. But, we have no other choice and he is still a reasonable captain. We should also not forget fielding. Laxman and Dravid are completely useless outside of the slip cordon. Also, we cannot drop all the seniors at the same time. Tendulkar is in form and clearly cannot be dropped. Dravid showed his class in England and must be persisted with. So, it is the right time to drom Laxman and bring in Rohit, who is also a great fielder.

  • Pavan_2020 on January 8, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    This is exactly why nobody cares abt manjrekar or manindar - not when they plays and DEFINITELY not when they are not playing.

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:05 GMT

    what mr chetan chauhan is talking? cheteshwar pujara? from where this name came? is he in the team? no then why is he talking about him? y laxman should be dropped? y not gambhir or sehwag?

  • JustIndian on January 8, 2012, 20:57 GMT

    Vengsarkar is spot on..India does not have talented, temperamental and technically correct players who can replace or even challenge the likes of greats..Sachin, Rahul and VVS for their places. The fact that these players are 37,38 and still playing proves this. Its absolutely ridiculous to talk about dropping Laxman. In almost every test match that India saved or won in last 7-8 years, VVS the man to bet life on in CRISIS.. played a crucial role. and people are talking about dropping Laxman in to give chance to whom?..the IPL stars..Virat..Rohit..who will not last more that 10-20 overs..Honestly..does India really have a test match future? The immediate issue on hand is the Team Leadership..Dhoni should STEPUP and take responsibility for the poor show instead of blaming on batting. Motivation, Tactics, Body language, Aggressiveness are all questionable that allowed aussies to bounce back repeatedly and win from lost positions.

  • Rohit7601 on January 8, 2012, 20:57 GMT

    The problem is aging cricketers. They have been wonderful batsman but unfortunately their reflexes are not so strong anymore. That is the reason they are getting out even after making decent start because it's only one delivery that is good enough to beat their aging reflexes. I would rather prefer defeat with a young team rather than with struggling old aging team simply because young players will at least get to know what ways do not work - a learning lesson which is an investment for the future. Whereas old players will be gone after 2 years and their curent experience won't count. Also it is frustrating for players like Pujara who have showed promise but didn't get enough chances.

  • haq33 on January 8, 2012, 20:56 GMT

    "We've been spoilt by success in the past 10-12 years." says Dilip Vengarsarkar......really? Apart from the home-boyz world cup and 5 minutes as test no. 1, what success?? I must have missed it all.

  • LindenW on January 8, 2012, 20:55 GMT

    I agree with RC-11, while sehwag's aggressive approach on occasions does the trick, test match innings are built around patience and shot selection, take note of Alistair Cooke, pinch hitting is high risk and only really works in the ODIs.

  • SmartStrategy on January 8, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    When experts are talking about replacing players like Laxman, Sehwag etc to give chance to youngsters, they have to first see if we have extremely talented and technically sound batsmen from the youth mass to really take those spots and give India victories in testing conditions. The sad thing is we really don't have any great ones on the sight. You cannot simply say that you have to give chances to groom them. IT"S NOT REALLY TRUE. Throughout cricket history, a great player can be identified from the very first series, looking at the way they play. Take all the greats- you could sense them very early in their career. I agree Rohit Sharma looks very talented and he should replace Virat, NOT Laxman. Virat is not showing any extraordinary talent so far in Test cricket overseas (except in the field), although he should always be in One-day squad, and home Test series.

    Right now, India team management should focus on drawing the series 2-2. These players can definitely do that.

  • mumbaiguy79 on January 8, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    chetan chauhan makes lot of sense..I would drop either laxman or dravid..get ajinkya rahane in as the opener with gambhir..sehwag to follow, then tendulkar, dravid, rohit, dhoni and so on..time to make tough calls and now is the time!

  • Rakesh_Sharma on January 8, 2012, 20:46 GMT

    Tendulkar will be in his 40th year in 2 to 3 months,Dravid will be in 40th year in few weeks. Still some fans wants them to play for few more years. What is the meaning of few now. All great players were better than anyother player in the team when they retired. Playing well and not retiring even after playing for 23 years make no sense. The only player I remember retiring early and who was good actually was Sanjay Manjrekar.

  • moBlue on January 8, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    sanjay manjrekar is wrong, as usual! so many of you have it right!!! the problem was with our bowling and our captaincy! dhoni went defensive - and missing for an entire day! now manjrekar wants VVS out?!? in AUS?!? are you kidding me?!? if kohli - who has seemed clueless in test cricket [i am a big fan of his in ODI's but he is not good enough for test cricket!] - has to be a passenger, because it is rohit's turn, then drop gambhir and move dravid or ashwin up, and if dravid opens, then have VVS playing at number 3... i don't like *that*, i think gambhir would be better than kohli, but perth is dicey, and i want VVS in there if y'all want kohli in! it would be stoopid in the extreme to play at perth without the redoubtable VVS, sachin and dravid in that order of priority!

  • Sultan2007 on January 8, 2012, 20:43 GMT

    in my view the crux of the problem is that the stalwarts are not getting enough cricket. They dont play ODI's any more or for that matter 4 day domestic cricket either. With age unfortunately, reflexes slow down and it is an unrealistic expectation to have them fire at the start of every Test series. The 10 day prep stay in Oz doesnt cut it. To prolong their careers they must either play domestic cricket or sign up for County cricket so that their reflexes remain sharp, Fully echo the cry for including Rohit Sharma but absolutely not at Virat's expense. In each of his brief stays at the crease, he has looked the real deal. He needs careful coaching on the art of playing a Test innings

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:42 GMT

    The problems with Indian cricketers are :

    1. Too much of the short game which means test cricketers are not moulded to withstand pressure and have the patience which is a prerequisite at test level. 2. Except for a few batsmen, very few are technically sound. Look at Gambhir who always tries to play the ball in front of his body. You cannot control shots that way. Technically the Australians and English are the best in the world. I also feel, but I may be wrong here - the bats are lighter which means when it comes down it comes out and in leaving a big gap between pad and bat.Dhoniby the way has no technique - a good bowler can get him out within two overs. 3. The young bowlers should make the batsmen play the new balll. I have seen some bowlers delivering balls with wobbling seam. Even a school cricketer would say that it is something not acceptable. 4. The overweight guys like Sehwag and Laxman cannot be hidden in the field. No use scoring hundred if you let go 101.

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:41 GMT

    Ishanth sharma tool 14 wckts in 6 recent away tests at an average of 63 runs a wicket in bowling fiendly conditions. Not sure these re the figures of an expreienced bowler who has 40 match expreience. He is overrrated player But underrated when it comes to performace. He should be dropped along with Laxam.

  • Mr_Anonymous on January 8, 2012, 20:36 GMT

    I think we need to make 2 changes. One is to bring Rohit Sharma into the side. The question is whom to drop: Gambhir, VVS or Kohli. All 3 are not in great form but Gambhir and VVS hit fifties in the last innings and Kohli is an investment in the future. So, that makes it a very hard call. My opinion is: First preference: Drop Kohli and bring Rohit Sharma in. If VVS or Gambhir fail again at Perth, drop one of them and bring Kohli back for the last test. Second preference: Drop Gambhir and have Kohli, VVS and Rohit Sharma in. That will mean that Rahul Dravid has to be make shift opener. If VVS or Kohli fail at Perth, think about bring Gambhir back in for the last test.

    I also would like the selectors/Team management to consider dropping Ashwin and bringing in Ojha for the last test. For Perth, I think its a toss up. Ashwin maybe slightly ahead since there will be some assistance from the pitch (and with his batting form). However, I really would like to see Ojha in for the last test.

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:35 GMT

    good idea but i dont no vvs good player

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:32 GMT

    It would be foolish to leave Laxman out of the Perth test and expose a youngster to the hard and bouncy WACA track. I would rather get 3-4 newcomers for Adelaide test if the series is already lost. The Big three though must leave one by one in 2012, 2013 and 2014 one at a time.

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    I dont see a reason why kohli or rohit sharma need to replace VVS. I have seen kohli or rohit sharma play well only in indian conditions. When a class player like VVS makes a struggling 60 odd runs, it will be pretty tough forthe inexperienced rohit or kohli. Ok, lets assume VVS is about to be dropped. How will rohit sharma be the right fit at number 5 and that too in test matches. Subramaniam badrinath should be the right fit to replace VVS. It is sad not to see him in test squad.

  • only_sehwag on January 8, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    The likes of Manjrekar, Maninder are nothing but jealous of the successes of Dravid and Laxman...because they were both dropped unceremoniously during their careers...

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:28 GMT

    @nlambda: Do not come up with such idiotic comments. Why should Sachin's 100th ton distract the team? Sachin bats well and finds run. He scored 105 in the first test and 121 in second. Other batsmen need not worry about Sachin and what they wanted is just go into the middle and take runs. Ultimately end of the day when team counts your run, do not be Laxman or Sehwag or Kohli. If so, you will be out of the team for sure.

  • RC-XI on January 8, 2012, 20:27 GMT

    Can someone justify sehwag in team? We don't need double century or triple century once in 2 years. We need a consistence opening partnership to build foundation of any innings

  • on January 8, 2012, 20:26 GMT

    The problem lies in youngster not performing they just play casually not taking care of the situation and in the end putting all pressure yet again on the seniors Let seniors enjoy the last phase of cricket they r playing..... . it is time for young to give tribute to seniors.. seniors are apparently playing their last series.. but young guns must perform in order to build a reputation of themselves..

  • seantells on January 8, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    i am cricket fan but not n Indian , the way i look oz's are not a team to gamble palyers when you are in their back yard, VVS did a decent job he should cotinue this tour but i am surprised why no one says a word about Shewag , give a chance to a new opener oz's done their home work on shewag. what Ind lacking is solid opening stand that matters more

  • kasyapm on January 8, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    I don't mind these former cricketers reacting when a media person asks his opinion. But, I object to usage of twitter & such media to come out with these statements. Though I have respect for Sanjay Manjrekar as an observer of the game, his analysis on 'why VVS should be dropped' on twitter was not necessary. I believe our cricketers have faced these scenarios a number of times and do ignore them, but as a cricketer, I sure would not want some X Y & Z questioning my place.

  • kasyapm on January 8, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    @sawifan, mate thanks for acknowledging VVS' contribution when my own country men seem to be content making calls for 'young blood'. I say this to all - the people representing India must be the best in their fields - batting/bowling/keeping and VVS is still in our BEST 3 batsmen along with Sachin & Dravid. He has been in splendid form for the past 3-4 years (stats support my argument). Even in the last series against WI, he has a century (176), 2 fifties & a 30 and he even scored a 50 in the tour game here! We have a problem where the batsmen are not firing collectively. I hope there is a shift in Perth. I believed that these illogical calls for VVS' head (even if he fails in a single test) have gone away. But, as has been his through his entire career, VVS seems to be under fire. And, as has been his response over the years, I expect a solid reply with his bat. Go VVS!

  • TheBengalTiger on January 8, 2012, 20:01 GMT

    Yorkshire: Yes because England have always been the top test team right? england have been hopeless for so long, you had to start taking players from other countries to be successfull.

  • nikheelkumar16 on January 8, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    It's been 4 years sine ganguli retired from test cricket, & we are still struggling to find a solution for that.... i wonder what madethem to think that vvs should retire match has not been lost due to vvs and it's a complete tea, effort....Loosing and winning are the part & parcels of the game... we should just carry on.. make good match planes.... Dhoni if you are reading this.. i am still with you..supporting Team India... we just have to bat, bowl and field better...INDIAAAAAAAA.....INDIAAAAAAAA.....

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:59 GMT

    Remember Muralitharan! After his retirement SL team is finding hard to win TEST matches!! Only 1 bowler gone all the batsman are same!! Still its hard times for SL. MAN, its the bowlers who win TEST matches!!!!!!!

  • Roykunal on January 8, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    Team India should seriously start phasing out the 3Giants in the team.Else there will be a situation when alongwith Sachin,Dravid and Laxman we will see the simultaneous retirement of Dhoni,Sehwag and Gambhir ..Selectors should give chance to young players more and more so that they can know well their shortcomings.Playing1 or 2 matches in a series is not going to help anyone be it pujara,rohit ,raina or kohli.We need to invest time on them as they are the future.At the age of 30,Sachin,Ganguly,Dravid or Laxman had already proved their mettle in Test Level.But our Captain MSD or Yuvraj or even Gambhir has not showed any such prowess.So it is time to move on with real youth for a better future in the coming years

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 8, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    Drop this excuses manufacturer Dhoni and make Dravid or VVS the Captain from Perth. Fly in Dinesh Karthik. Bring in Rohit for Kohli. Kohli shouldn't have been there in the first place, another way this Captain is hurting us - poor selection. So 3 in 1 - horrible captain on the field, horrible test batsman and poor thinking while selecting the final XI. Heard of double whammies. How to call this? Triple whammy? No wonder the team's fortunes have taken a nosedive once the batsmen struggled to put up a huge total. For Dhoni's atrocious captaincy, fighting totals from our batsmen will not be good enough. It always has to be a huge total. Period!

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:47 GMT

    I dont believe! How can anyone blame 3 all time greats of Indian cricket history? India had the BEST team fighting in AUS now! How can u blame batsman only! Indian Bowlers have taken only 24/1189 , whereas AUS have taken 40/1014 Wickets! So bowlers made it tougher for the indian Batsman...Any batting line-up will suffer if opposition score such free willing runs. Remember all the great test teams were great cause they had firstly 2/3 great bowlers and then they had 2/3 great batsman. Its the bowlers who win TEST MATCHES for you.

  • iluvkapil on January 8, 2012, 19:32 GMT

    My test team will be Gambir, Rahane/Mukund, Pujara, Rohit, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni, Yuvi, Aswin/Bajji, Varon, Umesh, P.Kumar, Ishant, Mithun,Badri(unless he is facing Jimme or Steyn he is ok) ODI:Gambir,M.Tiwari,Rahane,R.Jadeja,Rohit,Kohli,Dhoni,Yuvi,Raina,Vinay,Kumar,Munaf(Venkatesh Prasad in the making....fastest spin bowler),one more chance to Irfan and lastly Aswin Pool of fast bowlers: Irfan,Mithun, Vinay, Dinda, Munaf, Varon, Umesh, Kumar,Ishant and need some more here Also we need green top pitches in India to suit bowlers and not for Indian batsmen to get records.

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:32 GMT

    Players like VVS and Mahela do appear like throwbacks to earlier times as opposed to to the modern game where you are expected to keep blasting on friendly pitches. But drop them? When presented with a bad pitch or when everyone else is collapsing in a heap, they are the ones to stand up. There would be at least a few of us who would wish to carry them along in hopes that the special one is around the corner. Moreover, planning for the future need not be top priority right at this juncture. If any change is needed, an opener like Aakash Chopra may not be a bad idea.

  • Nitin00Garg on January 8, 2012, 19:32 GMT

    I think Chetan chauhan is correct. It is the time to do things differently we have the champion players, but we have to rotate them according to situation also one of the great three should leave the place for the youngster for atleast one or two test matches in the series. If dravid bat in middle and pujara at 3 it might be very helpful.Also Rohit is far better player than Virat. Virat has got enough chances now its Rohit tern.

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    @VVS supporters. VVS Laxman needs to be dropped because he clearly is past his prime. Did you watch the way he bats over the last 12 months? I'm betting alot of you have not seen him. In contrast, I have watched him bat and i noticed how long he takes to get off the mark when he first comes in. He plays about 15-20 balls before scoring and taking himself off zero.This is because he is nervous and has little confidence in his abilities. VVW does not inspire confidence. So what if he scored 66 in the last test. IT WAS A FLUKE!!! i watched how he batted and it was a fluke. If a player like him plays about 20 innings, eventually he'll score some runs but the question is, is he scoring significantly frequently? ANSWER=NO. I personally think that Sharma needs to be brought in and Murali Vijay should be given another chance. They need to axe the careless and carefree Sehwag also.Gambhir has LOST THe plot and should be replaced by someone that knows where is off stump is.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 8, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    I'm sure Dravid will be seriously considering retirement if India doesn't bounce back for a drawn series with meaningful performances from his willow. He would be the last one to make himself look like a hindrance for India's progress during this mayhem. He would gladly bow down if he is a hindrance to India's progress though India would be playing at home for nearly 18 months. Keep watching and you will all do well to remember that I've already said it here. And you fellas will also realise that it's Dhoni who is the hindrance regardless of who retires and who doesn't retire.

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:27 GMT

    Why doesn't any one talk about dropping Shewag . He is the reason for this slide in Aus. England was another story because their bowling attack was genuinely Extraordinary and superb . But OZ attck is much poorer and yet our top order is failing. Imagine the same team facing the English bowling attack now !. Just drop Shewag ! He is not a team player. Greg Chappel was right when he said Shewag lacks proper technics (foot movement) and does not listen.

  • sripree on January 8, 2012, 19:26 GMT

    Drop sehwag and VVS. Get in an Extra Bowler and Rohit. Ask Gambir to open with Ashwin. Let us see what we they can do. We are already at bottom so another defeat is not going change things. Atleast we can phase out the seniors better.

  • skepticaloptimist on January 8, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    @Gravitas - I find it offensive that you use the word batsman so loosely, to call Dhoni one. Apart from that I agree, our supposedly amazing youngsters have robbed the deserving (well, not in this tour) seniors an opportunity to conquer the final frontier (if you will). Laxman has been woefully out of touch in overseas games, though, and over a period of say six to eight months--of course, not immediately--his appearances should reduce. Dravid-Tendulkar is a more complex issue. Tendulkar has been India's best batter, since 2007, but has had an indifferent 2011 (which is still orders of magnitude by the standards of our youngsters). Dravid was out of form till last years began, when he started offering the divine amalgamation of grit and class. But in this tour, he's starting to lose his amazing form of 2011. Dravid, I feel, must drop down to six because he's perfectly capable of stabilizing the lower order; India must ensured that new boys are separated by experienced players.

  • Nampally on January 8, 2012, 19:20 GMT

    The whole selectors need to resign or be fired. Dhoni as a captain is uninspiring & lacks leadership qualities. As long as Fab 3 + Sehwag & Gambhir performed well,India won despite Dhoni's lack lustre captaincy, which some people called it "Cool". Groom Manoj Tiwary for the captaincy.In Yadev & Aaron India has 2 young seamers backed up by Ishant - all under 23. Irrespective of what fans think, India has to go back to Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Tiwary, Pujara, Raina & Rehane to form the middle order. There are many openers like Mukund, Dhawan, Utappa & Kartick. In spin dept.Ojha, Rahul sharma & Ashwin are good. So future of India is good.The present team in Australia is missing wkt. taking bowlers & All rounders.Squad selection was poor. Popular choices like Irfan Pathan,Jadeja, Tiwary, Dinda were all ignored.No matter what Fans say in cricinfo columns, Dhoni & Srikant are too stubborn will NOT make any changes to XI. Justification that this squad is the BEST is more important than Winning!

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    Lord_Dravid is the only person who has mentioned the absolutely dire indian bowling. Indians are always looking to their batsman to perform well and bat them out of trouble.

    "What about the Indian Bowling Syndrome!!??"

    Its striking a balance between good batting and bowling not one or the other.

    I cant believe that Jadeja has been overlooked again. He is a solid all rounder, gets a ball to turn, and can bat well too. Let the youngsters have a turn for no doubt they are hungry for wickets and runs hence, we shall see a better attitude and set of emotions in the cricket field.

  • y_a_l_a on January 8, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    continued .. The sad fact is the team didnt click, "all" the batting stars have failed. Make no mistake, except for zaheer, nobody else in the team has really succeeded. In the wake of above fact, You specifically calling for VVS to be dropped is biased and unnecessary disturbance to a proven perfomer who was selected and trusted to do a duty on this tour. I hope VVS shares my opinion about you. I hope the team managemnt deals with this problem in more professional manner.

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    Come-on Sanjay! Give me a break! Don't get your regional feelings mixed into this. It's a shame that you put Rohit on top of Laxman, especially in Australia. Do you really know the capability of Laxman? He can bounce back strongly after a few out-of-form innings. He proved that in 2004. Laxman had always had vultures (critics) around him throughout his career waiting for an opportunity to drop him. Only his exceptional skill kept him in the team and hope he remains there for some years. He is one of the few class-acts the game has ever witnessed. Don't recommend such hasty opinions.

  • JD1234 on January 8, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    I am almost certain that the replacements, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Pujara are NOT ready to take on the mantle of VVS, Rahul and Sachin. There was a time when the Dravid's and the Sachin's went to play English county cricket to develop their skills. Is Virat, Rohit and Pujara willing to sacrifice IPL money and instead spend their off season playing in county cricket to develop their skills? Unless they develop their skills to play in swing conditions and bouncing wickets, the likes of Virat's and Rohit's will come and go from the Indian team. Among the bowlers, Zaheer had a stint with county cricket which developed his bowling. Are any of the current crop of bowlers willing to spend their time in England? The issue is that these individuals now have easy access to money by playing on dead strips in India.

  • y_a_l_a on January 8, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    Mr Manjrekar, I dont have faith in your long term vision crap because I sincerely believe you dont have one. You are good at reactive commentary ie if somebody plays well, you can say he played well and vice versa. You have called for the heads of Sachin, dravid and laxman in the past and were proven miserably wrong as they have performed excedingly well after you made such recommendations. I would have more respect for you if you ever accepted that you were wrong about them in the past.

    Srikanth is absolutely right, this is the best team that we hoped to do well in australia. It would have been foolish to come on this Australia tour with peoples choice "youngsters", whose names are all over the forum. They would have been just bounced out, how many people here remember our youngsters getting bounced out even on subcontinent and west indies pitches. continued...

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    old gurd should not be droped and retire if they do how india play est shame on indian team.......

  • Aniltadimeti on January 8, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    I am surprised by the comments asking Dravid,Laxman to retire&those who say that Sachin is the only one in form.Sachin was miserably out of form in England for 7 innings,making 180 runs(before the 91 in the Oval Test).Somehow,I never saw any comments asking Sachin to be dropped.Of course,its not that I see a reason to drop him or any of the other two.I am only pointing out to its unfair to say these two must be dropped because they have failed in 4 innings(although,technically,its only 3). I agree they are old but age is no yardstick to measure one's ability to perform.They might not be as agile as the younger ones but their slip fielding is still very good.Dravid has been dropping a few in the slips recently.While it is a cause for concern,its nothing alarming,as he has taken over 200 catches including some splendid ones. Dhoni must reflect on where his batting is heading.He is a better batsman than he is demonstrating at the moment&perhaps Fletcher should address that immediately.

  • Thejus_r on January 8, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    gambhir and dravid to open... rohit,sachin and virat at 3,4,5... sehwag at6 and dhoni at 7... followed by ashwin, ishant, zak and yadav

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    Ya i accept tat point where is irfan pathan indian selector's have been harsh towards him whenever any injury all waste useless players will be replaced but irfan who has experience class everythin is ignored.I Don understand y the hell still srikanth is continued has chairman of selector's he is dumb throw him out bring ex-players like kumble,dada(ganguly) for selection panel who kno's abt a player n brings right player to team like how dada has brought many gr8 players to spotlight during his captaincy

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    India opened up their batting fortress by forcing Ganguly to retire without a viable replacement. Their batting has had a weak link because of that now for over 3 years. Now they have put themselves in the position, where they will be forced to drop/retire guys like Laxman, who is certainly past his best, and Dhoni who just does not belong in Test cricket! Drop Laxman and bring in Sharma, let Kohli play the entire series with the future in mind and also start thinking of a replacement for Dhoni in test cricket!

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    Changing the batting is not the answer. everyone would agree that there is no substitute to experience. It is pointless to drop VVS, instead what should be focused upon is the balance of the team. When you know that the bowling attack is led by Zaheer with Ishant and Yadav not proving to be adequate support but yet quite good in patches, wouldnt it be better to get another allrounder in the team including Ashwin. That would not sacrifice the depth in batting while adding depth in bowling. My personal opinion about Kohli is that he is a top order batsman. Even if you look in ODIs he has enjoyed more success at the top of the order rather than batting lower. He would be fit to take Dravid's place after his retirement but not yet. The big 3 have done a lot for India in the past and the least BCCI could do is let them bow out with grace. My ideal team for the next two matches would be: Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin, VVS, Dhoni, Irfan, Ashwin, Zaheer, Ishant , Yadav.

  • on January 8, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    What did sanjay do to make this statement??? VVS is a gem and a player of the decade who has fought for our victory....

  • nlambda on January 8, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    Sachin's 100th 100 is distracting the team. Sehwag and Gambhir get out early so he can get a chance to get that 100 quickly. Then Dhoni and Kohil get out early because they are dealing with the disappointment that he didn't.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    I guess dhoni should be out of test team its neither kohli or vvs may be its harsh since he has brought world cup to india after 28yrs, but it doesnt make any sense tat becoz he brought world cup we cant keep on losin test matches dhoni is gr8 player oly for odi but not for test so better dhoni should be out of team first n player like karthik,saha, karnataka's gautam should be given chance.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    V V S Laxman scored 6 TEST centuries against Australia. 4 in Australia and 2 in India. V V S Laxman scored 4 ODI centuries against Australia. 2 in Australia and 2 in India. V V S Laxman scored 1 ODI century against Zimbabwe. That's in Australia at Adelaide. This makes it 7 INTERNATIONAL centuries on Australian soil. A thread is going on every where at dropping him from Indian side now. A question on AXING. When we talk about this, why every time Laxman, Laxman and only Laxman?

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    cric009 has some of my ideas..I was impressed by Pujara in South Africa..he made a 70 score under pressure..maybe it was his debut match.. He would have traveled to England, but was is time to play Pujara, Rohit....

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:48 GMT

    V V S Laxman scored 6 TEST centuries against Australia. 4 in Australia and 2 in India. V V S Laxman scored 4 ODI centuries against Australia. 2 in Australia and 2 in India. V V S Laxman scored 1 ODI century against Zimbabwe. That's in Australia at Adelaide. This makes it 7 INTERNATIONAL centuries on Australian soil. A thread is going on every where at dropping him from Indian side now. A question on AXING. When we talk about this, why every time Laxman, Laxman and only Laxman?

  • nikhilshahb on January 8, 2012, 18:45 GMT

    In order for the team to maintain its number one Test status, we cannot blame India's batting greats. Gambhir did well as an opener with Sehwag, to propel India to the top along with some support by Ishant Sharma.

    Zaheer could not sustain his fitness levels and most of the burden fell on young Ishant who is now looking very jaded having played 43 Tests in just 3 years.

    Had Gambhir. Ishant, Yadav and Varun emerged around 2000, the middle order would still be young enough to exploit the strong Indian middle order batting which was so reliable with Dravid, Sachin and Laxman over the years.

    It would be uncerimonious to drop the big three but let them bat freely without pressure in the next two Tests and the coming home Test series. The BCCI should let them decide when they want to retire. We can start playing Rohit in the home Series in India

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 8, 2012, 18:45 GMT

    A lot of my fellow Indian brethren here moan about how there are no replacements for the big 3. The fact they all keep forgetting about is that the 3 'GODS' are 37 and 38 year olds. For how long do the Indians loyal to these players want them to keep going ?! Isn't Indian cricket looking like a laughing stock to the world now ?! the YOUTH of our young players is WASTED away every single time these 3 oldies take to the field. I am ASHAMED to be associated as a former Indian fan simply cause of this reason. Our country needs better planning and preparation. The time for change is NOW ! the BCCI needs to talk to these guys and tell them to face the reality. That would act as a warning sign for Virender Sehwag and Gambhir who look complacent thinking they would remain in the team no matter what. Playing for India is a PRIVILEGE and NOT a right !

  • Lord_Dravid on January 8, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    y is no one questioning our dismal bowling on the second day where ishant and zak were reguarly bowling middle/leg where almost every ball went for a run. y didnt they just bowl good line and lenght like ishant did do eventually on the third day? :S this allowed the aussies to score 600+ runs which cost us the game. Simple cause of failure.

  • Perfect.Stranger on January 8, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    I would say the 12th man should be dropped. That would be thinking long term. It will also make others fearful for their place. Or they can try dropping pup (Clarkey) off the hill. That will solve the problem for sure... ;)

  • Hasso29 on January 8, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    once in a show i had heard that virat kohli is more talented than umar akmal! For those who think that way are brainless. it is a big joke. virat only knows to play for him self not for the team. and can only scores in india or sub continent!

  • rcontra on January 8, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    I still don't understand some people saying remove Sachin. You guys need to watch the match before making your comments. The way he batted in the first innings. Nobody could even block the ball like him, not even Dravid. Gambhir doesn't belong there at all. He can't even play straight bat. We need to replace Dhoni and Gambhir. Get Karthik/Parthiv Patel as an opener. Then add Rohit to the line up. 1. Sehwag 2.Karthik/Parthiv 3.Dravid 4.Sachin 5.Rohit 6.VVS 7.Kohli.

    Although I don't have any ideas for bowlers. Need someone with Zaheer. May be keep Ishant and get Irfan.

  • Leadar on January 8, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    I played cricket to some level. When things are not falling in place it is easy to ask for dropping some body. VVS is always a real skilled player. Every time India does not do well in the test match VVS is dropped immediately without even a second thought. In the first test he was given out for a no ball. He played well till he got out suddenly on 66. Kohli is missing the straight deliveries. I would suggest dropping Kohli and bringing in Sharma instead.

  • tradetekbiz on January 8, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    This is the problem with India, Indian team, and former players, it's always about batting, batting batting. It was not because of their batting that they lost two matches, it was because of their bowling. No matter how many runs you put up on the board, 100 or a 1000, you simply can't win a test match if the opponents' scorecard reads 654/4. Thus, instead of once again beating on the batting drum, look to the larger picture.

  • YoBro on January 8, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    @yorkshire-26: Well said, mate. You hit the nail on it's head.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    The team lost is mainly because of Indians faulty plan to bounce Clark and Ponting when they came in first. Any one would have attacked at least 10 overs or more when they first came together. Instead they started feeding them bouncers and bowling short and they scored 4s and 3s from them. Aus bowlers stuck to length and line. India on the other hand, (bar Zaheer in the first 4 or 5 overs) just was all over the place. Wierd and stupid tactics is what got Clark a 300 and 2 others big 100s. And the worst was that all 3 of them were not exactly in form, especially Clark. I always think that our bowling let batsmen regain form. Indian batsmen erred of course but I think they themselves caused their demise. Kohli had no idea 2 bouncers and a full length delivery would follow. Sachin went for an expansive drive (half cross-bat) while he was pretty much playing well straight batted. Sehwag, boy, I dont understand him, at all. Maybe drop him?

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    Indian team cant change in oneday..n they wont starting winning just by dropping big 3 or any one of them. its not only batting which looked bad , The test match is setup by good bowling or good opening thats where is india is having problem. gambhir have same problem as ganguly ( chasing the wide delivery and get cought on slips.), If india really wants to win a test match they have to change their team combination to 6-5. An extra bowler can really help take 20 wickets if any others are having a bad day. DROP KOHLI AND GAMBHIR AND BRING BACK PATHAN. USE YADAV OR ISHANT AS AUSTRALIA IS USING SIDDLE,Team: 1)Sehwag 2) Dravid 3) Laxman 4) Sachin 5) Rohit 6)Ashwin 7) Dhoni 8) Irfan Pathan 9) Zaheer 10) Yadav 11) Ishant/ Ojha ( Depending on the kind of pitch. Play 4-5 series. then decide on the future of big 3. Keep one of them resting every series and play kohli, pujara rahane, badrinath and aron..Accordingly.That's how u groom youngsters with the help of seniors.dont just comment learn

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    I request Indian fans not to be worry as after this series, all of big 3 may retire????????????

  • NeoMac on January 8, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    As Harsha Bhagle accurately pointed out - "On the second morning, with Australia a mere 75 behind and anxious to get a good start, India offered a loosener as the first over. The singles ticked over, there were a couple of boundaries, and within 15 minutes it looked like Clarke and Ponting had been batting for an hour. ".. this exemplifies the state of Dhoni's mind. There was an article about 'India gone back to the old habit of waiting for declarations' .. That has never worked and wont ever work. Someone needs to put it in Dhoni's head. Playing freely with attacking fields wont hurt any more than how it is currently. So better die battling than being humiliated after surrendering.

  • Rajdev on January 8, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Naveed Khan: I agree with you 110%. Rajan

  • KFigo on January 8, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    Everyone here talk about Indian Batting but it is an important to think about bowling department at the same time. BCCI should select the members according to the venue that the TEST or ODI take place. Simply we can learn from the opponent how they have selected their members and well balanced. When we look at our Indian Cricket teams highly concentrated on their batting department. Indian need a change with an extra pace bowler and a batsman replacement. "Sometimes its nothing to talk about what we should do this and that but only Indian players has to think and overcome all the challenges. Guys show your skills and all you have better than Aussie.

  • MoonSeller on January 8, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    Open your eyes and Look at not only his all time record but Sachin's recent statistics. He is # 4 in world as per current ICC rankings in test. It reflects only last year's stats. I think virat should be given a chance at one down, and Laxman to be replaced by Rohit sharma and Dravid with Pujara. May be captain change needed too, but do not forget Dhoni is also our best wicketkeeper currently and reason for that is our selectors have not given chance to anybody else except PP (who is big failure and still keeps getting chances). We are missing kumble big time if looked at the past matches won in australia, Kumble got 8 wickets out of 26 total (both teams) fallen just in one test. Ashwin does not have Kumble's caliber. We need to give chance to another spinner.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Why they need to drop Lakshman? It sounds crazy. They should drop Kohli and give a chance to Rohit. If this had happened in first test Inddia could have won it. Dhoni is biased with the players and forming a team of his supporters for whatever the reason. Indian bowling do not have variation because of Ashwin (no leg spinner in the team and more than three in the current team can bowl off break :) ). Ojha is dropped because Ashwin is his chennai's teammate. Dhoni also became another non playing captain for that matter.

  • Umms on January 8, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Sachin will take his time to score his 100th century and India will keep losing. Indians have to realise its India who is losing with big names. Sachin should go and make way for others. Interestingly enough Indian batting is their strong point, but they are failed to deliver becuase of the pressure created by Aussies. What is the use of Laxman, Dravid and Sachin if they can't bat for two days. Indians need new blood and play for the country rather on personal gains.Typical subcontinent approach.

  • objective_cricfan on January 8, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Why is everybody acting surprised and outraged by the results. We just lost 4-0 to England. A victory against West Indies at home made us forget that but remember we could have also lost the two tests we actually just managed to win and probably would have if the adamant WI selectors had not omitted one Chris Gayle. The real problem is not of skill but of leadership. Shorter versions of the game can be won by two or three brilliant individual performances but tests require more strategy and on field leadership. Even Kapil won us the World Cup and against greater odds, not in home conditions but he has never been considered a great captain. Dhoni, like Kapil is a gifted cricketer but is definitely not up to the mark as captain. Most of his test victories have been against weaker opposition at home. (Even Australia is weak compared to earlier!). Most previous captains have been removed after 1 humiliation but Dhoni is the BCCI Presidents IPL Team captain and will continue even with 6-0

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    It is not fair to drop laxman. how can we forget his track record on ausies. i think rohit should be given a chance to prove himself. kohli should be dropped he not addicted to australian pitches and more over he not a comfortable player on backfoot.........

  • BattingAllrounder on January 8, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    BCCI team for the 3rd Test Match of Border Gavaskar Trophy should be (in batting order):

    A Rahane, G Gambhir (Capt.), RG Sharma, V Kohli, RS Dravid, W Saha, R Ashwin, IK Pathan, Z Khan, I Sharma, U Yadav

  • serious-am-i on January 8, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    I was quoting from day 1 of the series give the chance to Rohit just like Ian chappell was saying repeatedly. Kohli got chance because he scored 100 in the tour game ? Why not Rohit, he was unbeaten with 2 fifties and 2 not outs in 3 innings + he was in excellent form compared to Kohli. I am pretty sure Rohit will get a chance but I feel sorry for him for being bench warmed when in supreme form. If u want to develop a good Test team, scrap off the IPL or limit the matches to 20 - 30 for entire tournament not the 60 and 70 matches. India currently needs fresh faces in all departments. I wouldn't mind building a team from scratch (entire XI) even if they lose against Bangladesh I don't mind as long as young blood is groomed.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Why laxman should be be dropped? Is it because he scored a half century in the last test match?? Whenever there is sump in Indian cricket, these crazy people ask for laxman's head. Wht did Kohli did to continue him in the squad.. Last 4 innings he played like he never played cricket before.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:16 GMT

    If you watch the match carefully you can see that Aussies have used a lot of reverse swing. The Aussies know that Indians are playing the ball late so they are bowling full and swinging it late (using reverse swing.). Only way to counter it to take a stance outside the crease the counter the swing and keep changing to your stance to unsettle the bowler. The indians got to realize that you cant play every ball in a test, they got to be patient and play the waiting game. If bowling department is not improving there is more humiliation waiting for us. Ishant has been totally ineffective. Sreesanth can pose a serious threat to the batsmen in Australian pitches. Problem is that our selectors will only act after a series of humiliation, they simply refuse to interfere in the middle of an ongoing series. Hope selectors and the coaching staff make some radical changes in our team.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    LOL.3 years and they havent found one talent for the No.6 position and they talk like there is a flood of talent waiting to replace the established ones.Every goddamn player failed and you single out?

  • yorkshire-86 on January 8, 2012, 18:14 GMT

    India's problem is quite simple. The 'new generation' of players are nowhere near good enough. Singh, Sharma, Kohli, Raina are batsmen who could do a job for a mid-lower end of table team - which is what India are and always have been since thier introduction to Test cricket. Its only because of legends like Tendulkar and Dravid that India have been punching WAY above thier weight and pushing to the top of the Test rankings in the last 6-7 years, when they retire India will be a lower end team like they always were. For the last 100 years India's national sport was HOCKEY, it only became cricket when the aforementioned 2 legends plus Dravid, Ganguly, Kumble, Khan, Dhoni, Sehwag turned them into a world beating team - and when they go the fickle Indian crowds will go back to HOCKEY. (oh and T20, but T20 is as close to real cricket as hockey - but thats a different argument!)

  • cricfan200 on January 8, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    Thanks, but no thanks Ayatollah Manjrekar

  • NY-NY on January 8, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    Where is Fletcher-the coach? How long can he continue to hide? How come nobody is calling him out? I have yet to hear any ideas from him. Is he aware that India has lost 6 tests overseas.

  • mymissioniscricketandonlycricket on January 8, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    What about dropping Dhoni in Test cricket since he doesn't carry any sence of class and let Karthik replaces him. That will be bold decsn but have to do it.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 8, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    So, India keeps losing 6 overseas matches on the trot and what do we do, reach out for the neck of VVS!!! WHAT, I repeat, WHAT did DHONI, KOHLI, Sehwag and Gambhir do as batsmen all this time? AND what is ISHANT doing as a bowler? Dropped a simple return catch! Dhoni is a double trouble for us. Don't let the WC and T20 triumphs blind the so called 'past cricketers'. Dhoni is a horrible test captain and a horrible test batsman. He doesn't command a place in the team as a test player. Period! His inferior technique will play on his mind and he will invariably gets mentally choked when he faces quality international opponents. In a fight between a Rat and a Lion why will the Rat push forward rather than being defensive and running away from the situation? That's natural. That's a natural tendency when you don't have the quality to start with. So, please drop him first and then undo the injustice done to Rohit Sharma - pick him for the final XI by sitting out the undeserving Kohli.

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    Lets Team combination to be like this

    1. Gautam/Ajinka Rahane 2. Shewhag 3. Virat Kohli 4. Sachin 5. Rahul 6. Rohit 7. Dhoni 8. Aswin 9. Zaheer 10. Umesh 11. Vinay Kumar

  • cric009 on January 8, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    @ Chaturvedula - One problem is even selectors have not come out of their bias from their regional heroes. Why cannot be the selection be strictly based upon performance and future. As u know, Sachin is still the highest scorer and only player who has scored run consistently. And also, it;s nothing wrong if his personal scores add onto the pathetic indian totals abroad. Of course, even Sachin must retire ultimately to get ways to youngsters. But it must be VVS and Dravid who must be phased out first. And rathr than sticking onto the same loser team, it;s a good chance to make few changes like Rohit, Aaron, Pujara in remaining tests. Afterall they wont perform as bad as the current ageing team is doing!

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    ITS BOWLING THAT FAILED to TAKE 20 Wickets!!!! VVS, RD should be allowed to exit on their own. ( I saw a cartoon - which showed SRT batting with his son in a match in 2020 - let him keep making records anyway as he is from Mumbai)

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    I am Sri Lankan.If you loose 1 series in Australia do not think too much . India team good .nothing need to be change now.but future you must look for a VVS and Dravid

  • cricfan200 on January 8, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    I disagree with Sanjay M. VVS cannot be dropped from the Indian team. He can only retire when he wishes. He shares the same status as Sachin in the Indian test team. In 2008, India were 2-0 down going into Perth and they came back brilliantly in Perth to make the series 2-1. The series result was 2-1 in Australia's favor. The interesting thing is even though India are 2-0 down, the margin of loss is much better in this series than in 2008. That shows that India has a very good chance of leveling the series this year as they have a much better pace attack now than they had in 2008. I would say replace Virat with Rohit and Ishant with Varun. Ashwin would not be a bad option for opening with Gambhir giving Sehwag a chance to wreak havoc with the older ball lower down the order.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:50 GMT

    Why laxman why not Sachin or Dravid, Laxman was made a scape goat before 2003 world cup, he was dropped fro ODI team when he was playing better than even Sourav, now again he is been made a scape goat to cover up the major problems..

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    Why the exclusion always comes to VVS?We should think in otherway.If Australian bowlers can take wickets,Why our bowlers are not able to take the wickets?As anyway the pitch remains same.We are not having quality fast bowlers.Everytime we need Zaheer to take wickets.Look at SouthAfrica if their batsmans fails their bowlers stand tall and strike but our bowlers????the basic foundation itself wrong in India.We dont have good academies in allover india.If it is there also it not reachable to all.If you want fast bowlers you have to make strong foundation in Junior level.You need to have fast bowling camp in all the districts and find the right persons and develop them.But look at the current condition those who are having money they can join academy or Ranji team.No need of physique,capability,thinking,stamina...Only BCCI also wants to make money nothing they need.....

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    @ Naveed Khan on (January 08 2012, 17:00 PM GMT)..... NAILED IT !!! I could have not said it any better but just to add mentioning the very, very ordinary captaincy by Dhoni that has served as icing on the cake for the Australians.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    need more options in team to win the matches with strong team and the current team lack this the team should be like this after the austrlia series for the next two years. sehwag ,gambhir , rohit ,sachin,dravid,ashwin,dhoni,irfan ,zaheer,yadav,ojha.if we are playing on fast track then aaron in place of ojha ishant is waste

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 8, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    I knew this was coming, especially from Sanjay. Hell, get a grip. Will you? The players that need to be dropped right away are 1) Dhoni - a clueless test captain as anyone can see and a horrible 'front foot on the move and foot still in the air when the ball meets the bat' technique that will invariably bring his downfall 2) Kohli - who is inferior to Rohit Sharma in all aspects from technique to temperament. Hell, he shouldn't have been in the team in the first place. Dropping him is just undoing the Captain's initial poor selection for the final XI. Next, make Dravid or VVS the Captain for the remainder of their test careers, starting from Perth, and groome Sehwag/Gambhir for future Captaincy. Sanjay needs to get a grip. A player who deserves to be the Captain always is facing trial by the media. Fly in Karthik to replace Dhoni from Perth. Simple. All the atrocious captaincy problems and weak batting at No.6 will be solved for good.

  • ptnair on January 8, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    @Chaturvedula Murali Krishna: Are you saying that all the runs that Sachin has scored, went to a "personal score card" and not to incian score card?

  • Punjin on January 8, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    What's wrong with Indian Cricket- 1. failure to relaize shortcomings/working to improve/afraid to make changes. 2. Indian fans who worship cricketers like gods. Indians lack physically and it shows. First step- improve fielding. Put pressure on opposing batsman to score, pressure will make them make mistakes, your bowlers will perform better and over all result will help Indian batsmen too. Aging players are adding to fielding woes. Work to improve physical strengths. Aggressive attitude, attack. Indians players need to learn to retire gracefully, supporters to wake up and realize- enough is enough. Kind of money they make- they better produce results, if not go sit on bench.SUPPORTERS - DEMAND RESULTS OR BOYCOTT CRICKET. Where would Cricket be without supporters. Cricket being No. 1 sport in india, its a shame we do not have bench ready to fill in any failures- shows poor planning and management. If bench is ready give them chance.

  • Ritesh4949 on January 8, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    The likes of Kiran More & Sanjay Manjrekar dont have any cricketing brains.Wht they had done in their careers?They just know how to shout.The problem doesn't lies with the seniors playing in the team. Why the gun point is on theses seniors Dravid,Sachin& Laxman?Dravid is still a class act and see his performance since last year.He has performed quite well & so has sachin.He is getting the 70s, 80s & 90s. its just that he is not able to convert those into 100s. Its a matter of time & the biggy will come.Laxman is out of form &got some runs in the 2nd innings of sydney test.u just cannot drop laxman.He is still very very special and i bet he will score big in the perth test. Wht abt the likeS of gambhir, dhoni & sehwag? Wht they had done in the past year in test?? Look at dhoni's keeping & batting?why not drop these players.Rohit shuould be in the team in perth test in place of kohli.Its time nw BCCI should nw prepare bouncy tracks in India so that these players can perform in overseas

  • Srinisekar on January 8, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Replace Ghambir with Rahane VVS with Rohit and a Seamer to Ashwin...

  • Siddhu_Roy on January 8, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Why do we need to drop VVS? It's funny how people have short memory. Remember VVS's winning/saving test matches? Does inclusion of Rohit draw the series or would it have helped India win the series? Think reasonably, not with racial feelings. VVS deserves to be in Team India and he has plenty left in him. He has fantastic overseas record and he can do better in the future.

  • Rajiv007 on January 8, 2012, 17:32 GMT

    Mr. Manjrekar...have you ever won India a test match in your entire career??? Laxman had won India twice the matches you have even played for India... and for others take some lessons from The Austratilan seletors...have they dropped Ponting, Hussey for losing matches even shameful 21/9 ...??

  • NeoMac on January 8, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    All the ex-payers have touched upon the key points separately.. Sehwag has done brilliantly at No.1 position but his strength is to demolish an attack.. in conditions like england and australia where the bowlers have a fair bit going for them we are just wasting Sehwag by making him open.. He should bat when the bowlers have lost their sting and are vulnerable. Playing Rohit in place of VVS is absolutely justified given Laxman's run in the last year or so. Dravid should open and Rohit might take No.3. Sehwag will play in place of Laxman @ No.5 and Kohli to follow. Dhoni doesn't have the skill to perform in these conditions so his contribution will always be a hit-or-miss. We should use our batsmen accordingly and not by the past record.. records are meant to show the usefulness of a player but not to be considered so important that refuses us to make a change.

  • Shan156 on January 8, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Going by many of the posts here after India's ODI series win over England few months back, few understand the difference between tests and ODIs and even few appreciate the significance of a test series victory over a ODI series victory. Even if India lose the test series 0-4, they will win the all important ODI series that follows, Indian fans will proclaim that they are the best team in the world ever in all formats and all will be forgotten and forgiven. So, I am not sure why people are clamoring for all these changes now. Wait till Feb. when the ODI series winds up. After India's victory, few will ever remember this test series and Dhoni will reclaim his position as the best captain in the world. Oh, and for those doubting whether India would win the ODI series, that they will. They do possess, by some distance, the best ODI side in the world.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    DROP DHONI. He is not good enough for tests. Laxman and Dravid must go. Dravid is hard working but I am not sure about his run scoring ability anymore.And where do I start with bowling? For now, play five bowlers and bring Ojha in. Fast bowling should be veryyyyyyy seriously looked at at root and domestic levels. Vengsarkar's comments are very alarming ' The increased dependence on Tendulkar after more than two decades is a sign of poverty."

  • Syyeed on January 8, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Virat midfi oops kohli should be axed for his gesture in SCG. Rohit(even though I hate him for his attitude) in place of Virat & Ojha/Vinay in place of Ashwin/Ishant, VVS can not be dropped for failing in just a few innings instead, Gambhir/Sehwag should be shown the door for failing to protect the middle order from the new ball. Dravid anyway has been coming in to bat within the first 5-10 overs and can open and so can VVS. VVS's turn-around is right around the corner like Kallis having scored a golden double in 2nd test against SL and came back strongly to score a double ton in 3rd. All these gaikwads and Manjrekars and More should look at their own performances before commenting on dropping the likes of VVS. VVS is the best 4th innings batsman we have and he has single handedly saved more matches than the Gaikwad, Manrekar and More put together. If any one of the big 3 has to go its got to be Wall or Sachin as they are just shy of 39 and VVS still has a yr of cricket left in him.

  • Cricket-24-7 on January 8, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Kohli is a One day wonder.Useless in test cricket.Sanjay Manjrekar is always make some unnecessary comments about the senior members(long time back about sachin).VVS is a class act.He will prove his worth in perth test.Rohit is a decent bet compared to kohli.Asshwin too have to bat higher up the order based on his current form :)

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    I am just waiting for SOURAV GANGULY's comment on this, as he played with them for a long long time and also captained them.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    The biggest BS I hear all the time "he plays for personal records" I wonder what kind of people they are (not the ones who are playing for personal records but the ones who seem to identify one). For sure they don't understand test cricket. May be time to try T20 instead!!

    It looks like there are three perfect batsmen sitting on the bench who are just ready to debut with a hundred! Give me a break!! You have to make the best of your chances.

  • only_sehwag on January 8, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    I would drop DHONI first and ask manjrekar to keep his mouth shut...he is just of jealous because Dravid replaced him.

  • nlambda on January 8, 2012, 17:28 GMT

    Can't disagree more with Chaturvedula Murali Krishna. "Let the series be continued with the same set of players and heavens will not fall down if we lose another 2 matches." Seriously?? Which generation are you from?

  • xylo on January 8, 2012, 17:27 GMT

    While I agree that it is time that VVS, Dravid and Sachin are phased out, you got to realize that India is still struggling to find a replacement for Ganguly - Pujara was the closest, but he is recovering from injury. Eventually, Badri and Rohit will slot into the test team.

  • zuber21886 on January 8, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    its too early to blame someone, if we look this way, every team today is performing well mostly on their home grounds, India in India, Aus in Aus, Eng in Eng and many more. So looking at the surface the problem is with teams not preparing enough for overseas

  • srivatsan on January 8, 2012, 17:25 GMT

    @@ Jonty King. Dude Please don't compare Kallis with players from other teams. There will be no all rounder of his class short term and presently there are very few in International cricket now who can bat and bowl (may be Watson?) and nearest to Kallis is miles away, unless some one bats and bowls for 10 years his records will be intact.The day Kallis retires cricket will be poor!.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    Just because of VVS we reached No. 1 status and just because he failed in England, we lost No.1 status. I will totally disagree with Sanjay Manjrekar and Anshuman Gaekwad's statements to drop VVS at this point of time. It shame on these people who have never won single match for India on their own.

    If at all you want to drop, drop Dravid first.

    VVS played with tail enders till Ganguly retired from test cricket and due to that fact, he has only 17 centuries. Had VVS batted at No.3 during his career, he would have scored more centuries.

    VVS needs far better treatment. Though VVS played very well in One dayers also, Vengsarkar has humiliated him. Even Vengsarkar has never won the test on his own.

    Just don't blame VVS for everything.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    i think Gambhir and VVS should be dropped in place of Rohit and Mukund. Gambhir cannot score a lot in Perth ,since he is nervous playing the shot moving ball.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    problem is not in our players but its back home.We need a professional league like IPL in longer format and again Politics do not take over cricket like kumble saga

  • amit.agarwal on January 8, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    Hey VVS LAXMAN... dude if you happen to read this, or if any of your well wisher reads this and passes this comment onto you; please please please understand that YOU rock. its utter idiotic marketing and money game that these bunch of jokers are wanting to axe you from the team. the financers want virat to be in the team due to the money they have invested in him. they can certainly give umpteen number of chances to virat, yuvraaj, ojha, pujara, ishant, rp singh, raina and to an extent the grand old man [sachin]. but they forget that even after your difficult times, you are a fantastic player and will always be. the unfortunate fact: failure in bowling the opposition out TWICE has been forgotten and not being discussed or being pondered upon. these bowlers keep hiding their injuries and do not get penalized. [alas, ashwin hails from srikant's chennai.. and is another hirwani in the making]. you [and dravid] have been MY hero.. and will always be. may god bless you and help you regain.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    IPL is the root cause of our test match debacle. Young players are no longer interested in the game but only in money they can make by playing the IPL. Unfortunately we do not have one batsman other than Sachin and Dravid who can bat 2 + sessions. Most of our administrators including our Chief of Selectors Mr.Srikkanth has interest in IPL. God save Indian Test Cricket

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    Very very bad trip for india in the last few month to england and now australia which they lose test serise To england by 4-0 now they still lose both test to australia they must changes in the team and also Their opener will do better for the team now the india opening is the worse opening in test cricket

  • vrayal07 on January 8, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    I think for the next test match Varun Aaron should replace Ishant Shamra since he has can deliver faster bowling than Ishant Sharma. As far as of for batting, VVS Laxman and Virat Kohli should be kept out as they are out of form. We have got tons of young talented batsmen we can use.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    There is no point in dropping any player at this stage. Why dropping Laxman and why not Sachin? Is it due to the fact he belonged to Bombay? Sachin always played for personal records, and Laxman always played and fought to save/win the match. He might have failed in this series. Let the series be continued with the same set of players and heavens will not fall down if we lose another 2 matches. There is no scope of winning the series or at least levelling the series. Then, why this endless discussion? Are you going to win the series or at least make an impact by changing one or two players?. Think afresh about the team selection for the next series.

  • OhhhMattyMatty on January 8, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    They should turn Ashwin into a top 6 batsman and part time spinner. Give the full time spinner's position to Praggy Ojha. Drop Dhoni for Khartik or Patel. Drop VVS Laxman and Gambhir too for Rohit Sharma and Pujara.

  • palla.avinash on January 8, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    how much u say bcci is not going to listen to them any need to pick test specialists as ipl each team playing 16 games i dont think there will be any test technique will left in players.i would prefer cheteswara pujara,rahane ,abishek nayar ,robin bist and jedeja instead of kohli,rohit sharma and raina who are already addicted to t20's and odis.we lost test because of lack intensity and interest in players in test cricket especially in dhoni the way he stands deep behind wickets for pacers and fields defensive setting.i have only seen intensity in ashwin and zaheer.drop sehwag first he doesnt score runs in tests out side subcontinent .

  • akhilesh1987 on January 8, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    Can any one of u tell me when india was No.1 .... who was the coach n.that's the only thing that matter

  • criclover112 on January 8, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    "spoilt by success in the past 10-12 years". Even during the golden age of indian cricket, apart from a series or two in England, India has lost or drawn series abroad (Aus, SA), albeit less humiliatingly than how they have been capitulating recently. The fans have have unrealistic expectations from team India and maybe they are crumbling inder that expectation.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    The 4-0 trashing by England and the upcoming 4-0 thrashing by Australia should be indicative of radical change in our cricket planning. On a short notice one should begin the process of finding replacements for the big 3 (this should have started an year back) youngsters like rahane, sharma and pujara should be given opportunities even if at the expense of big 3....say one should be rested for them to play. But the most importantly a revolution is required in the way the wickets are made in India for the domestic cricket. Unless this happens , India will always struggle on fast seaming tracks overseas as far as Test match is concerned . I doubt if BCCI has the intent or the motivation to start this process, the manner in which the IPL dates were announced just after India capitulation at suggest that.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    pacinece is the main key for test matchs play like test match no like one days and 20-20 be cool and play u r own cricket then we ll win the matchs

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    Captaincy and Bowling are weak points. It is an easy target to focus on batting because an aging line up is vulnerable. All these comments by Indian experts are intellectually dishonest. How will removing VVS Laxman improve Indian Bowling? Just based on Statistics, Laxman has better average in last 6 tests than Virat and he is a better slip fielder.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    I think Dravid should open with Gambhir. Sehwag at 3, especially after he has just bowled 25 overs (very inflexible thinking last inning) Tendulkar at 4 VVS or Kohli at 5 Risk Sharma at 6

    one final point. The best TEST cricketer of recent times is Kallis (more runs, better average and just as many 100s as Tendulkar after 150 matches) I know how Indians love their stats so how can they argue!? Plus Kallis is a marvelous fielder AND 280 test wickets

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:58 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    I totally agree with all the seniors above, but i agree the most with Sanjay Manjrekar. i agree that the big guns have past the sell by date and gradually we need to move on. thats life and cricket is alive. further i also agree with the comments mentioned below. For the past few months i have been feeling that now we are playing only for Sachin's hundredth century (though i am also glued to the TV set in anticipation of his hundreth hundred). Also regarding Ishant i agree with rahulcricket007, i am fed with the comment that "he bowled very well without luck/success. i think Ishant and harbhajan have been in the same boat since about 2 years and yet the treatments were differential. Regarding Draving he is on the verge of 39, how long should we persist with him ? and what is the future ? I think Ajinkya Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Virat, & Raina deserve decent opportunities. how they can be accomodated needs to be worked out.

  • dockhaul4 on January 8, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    if the change doesn't come soon , history will keep repeating itself. drop old guards , try new blood and prepare for future.lucky to have lived in the era in which we witnessed Dravid and Laxman playing but i think its hi time to bid farewell with grace and dignity they deserve rather than been dropped

  • JackJak on January 8, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    Yes as Jayco says it would make sense for India to identify players for specific conditions..players with good technique should be compensated more ..should be told to maybe even skip IPL tournaments..and they shouldnt be picked when India plays at home. If players like Pujara and Rohit Sharma have got the game to perform in tough conditions like England Australia, South Africa New Zealand then build a team around such talented players specifically for such tours. Also bowlers who can swing the ball at pace for tall bowlers who can get generate bounce and pace for Australia, South Africa..And Please with a good yorker and a Nasty Bouncer who can break a nose if need be..Such a big country cant we have someone like that! India plays politics and we never see the true talent the country has ever..if its the south there is the brahmin brigade, northi brigade kannada, marathi..When will genuine class be rewarded and a team be built which looks like a team!

  • Myxlnc on January 8, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    Manjrekar is jealous he dint had good enough stupid recommending virat in place of Laxman. Virat need more time to get into test team. same with Raina I strongly believe Indian team is nothing without these Trio's. Laxman is matchless, you are ready to favor sehwag, gambhir, Dravid and Dhoni..why only Laxman to be sacked Mr. Manjrekar. Indian bowlers are like Reserved players, what they need is to bowl some overs. Ishant, vinay, yadav are not going to make any diff.. in the team. its all about our Bowling not with batting, as a batsman i am sure all will revive. the concern is bowling...Frankly i never feel clarke is good enough to score 300 it just our bowling paved him to score. Mr Manjrekar cricket is just not batting, some fair bowling is needed. please dont pass useless comments...which will lower Laxmans confidence.he is agenuine match winner and i think he is the reason for india to be Number 1 for some time.

  • rsurya on January 8, 2012, 16:54 GMT

    Australian tour is not your work sheet to try, its the board exam it should be met with plans and preparations and don't make it in the course of the examination. Our batsman scored a meager 191 ok, then ZAK took 3 wickets and score was 37 for 3, now i fear who has the upper hand... 191 was tallied easily by 37 for 3 and there after some unscrutinized blunder happened, (1. other bowlers may have thought we have ZAK and he will take all the wickets, lets just leak runs from one side. 2. Dhoni might have thought 'we came back easily after batting failure and the boat will sail by itself and all of the aus will get out themselves'. 3. Dhoni might have googled 'what is meant by attacking field set in cricket' unfortunately the net connection might have failed, in the mean time AUS have declared'.). A great news next day "DHONI'S CAPTAINCY WILL NOT BE UNDER SCRUTINY". Another news is "WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE 3 PLAYERS WHO ALONE HAVE PLAYED WELL, TO WIN FURTHER". SALUTE TO OUR FORMER PLAYERS.

  • manisacumen on January 8, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    Knee-jerk reactions won't do. I still feel India have been jinxed. The luck that was embracing Dhoni has deserted him. All of a sudden our fab 3 are struggling. And the famous opening pair is also not clicking. But come perth, i am sure Viru and Gauti will give a good start and from then on our senior pros will take on the baton and get a good score. India needs to bowl well. Ishant has disappointed. Vinay Kumar or Mithun should play instead. Ashwin or Ojha won't much difference. At least Ashwin will score useful runs. The biggest mistake was to take Rohit ahead of Kohli. Rohit coming into the third test will make some difference exactly how viru made in 2008. Viru was drafted late by Kumble instead of directly coming into the first test then. Now the same mistake has been repeated. Rohit should have played in the first test. No more delay in drafting him in ahead of Kohli. Kohli doesn't need another chance. VVS needs one more chance to prove himself.

  • cricfanparag on January 8, 2012, 16:50 GMT

    Hey lets not discuss india's performance in tests. Lets play IPL for 10 months an year just like english premier league. Every thing will be all right. Go Mumbai Indians.

  • laxmanrules on January 8, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    And WRT slip fielding. Laxman has grabbed all but one chance that has come his way. And, in Australia, second slip is probably the most important catching position. We don't have a better slip catcher than Laxman in the team.

    Also, the best batting line up we have in Australia is the one that is playing these games. It is very easy to call for Laxmans head but I believe that as we have always seen, Laxman takes his game to another level when people like Manjrekar shoot their mouths off. I just wish that an Indian supporter could be exactly that, a supporter!

  • jonesy2 on January 8, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    if they drop laxman then they should drop tendulkar and dravid and start fresh with new talent that can develop together and stay together

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    It's time for the big 3 to hang their boots. We cannot have a situation where you are playing even after 40 to break individual records.... We need to groom Kohlis, Rainas, Pujaras, Rohits, Karthiks and Mukunds before they are 30+...... You guys have made enough money and fame so it's time to GO!!!

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    I agree with some of the comments above to change the openers and try Sehwag and Dravid. It may be possible to replace Dhoni at this time, but letting Sehwag lead may not be a bad idea. This will allow Dhoni to concerntrate on his batting.Gambhir and VVS have not contributed much as well. Bowlers have failed miserably also. Should bring in Yuvraj, Pathan and Harbhajan for the remaining tests. These changes can not be any worse than the current line up.

  • OzWally on January 8, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    VVS - 132 tests, 221 innings and just 17 centuries?!? Wow! Has anyone with close to 9,000 runs converted so few innings into tons? And THAT keeps you in the side? Just think if the Australians had the same philosophy, forget Philip Hughes, Kim Hughes would still be an automatic selection.

  • yesbose on January 8, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    Yeah. Get Ashwin to open the innings Mr. Chetan Chauhan or else get Bhajji back in the side to say "terimaki" to put some fore back in the side.

  • Shueb on January 8, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Makes no sense dropping any of the holy 3 from test squad... they are the most experienced... better drop Sehwag... he plays test like 20-20, lacks team spirit as he cannot adjust his game... plays carelessly... send him home with a message that he needs to modify his style according to format.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:46 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Guys this shows how much narrowly people start thinking over, we cannot really think test without laxman, dravid. whenever laxman does not play just two matches than people will start commenting about him. It was collective failure of batting and bowling departments. our cricket sucks...

  • laxmanrules on January 8, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    Just wanted to point out that Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar showed they belonged to the world stage pretty early in their respective careers. Dravid(and Ganguly) showed he belonged with a fantastic 90 in his debut test. Laxman started with a fifty as opener, got dropped, scored 1400 runs in one ranji season, and followed it up with a fifty and the legendary 281. Sachin too showed he belonged to the world stage in Pakistan. Of the new lot, only Pujara has shown the temperament and skill needed at this level and unfortunately got injured. His innings of 26 in SA in the last session with Laxman at the other end was invaluable and helped us draw the series. As far as I am concernd, Kohli has had more than his share of chances. I do hope Rohit does better. My gut tells me that Rayudu (having seen him play some Ranji matches) might be up to the task. And, in Laxmans defence, he has gotten in only once and did make it count. One can;t hold him solely responsible for our poor showing.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 8, 2012, 16:42 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    Better send veterans one by one and strength with youth and energetic to construct the bright and successful team. Undoubtedly veteran's contribution helped India to grab lot of titles, but it is not possible to carry them every time. Time has come and as everyones wish VVS to quit first with merit. Hats off VVS

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    It's not fair to VVS. He is still a much better "bet" than Virat, Rohit, Gauti, Viru and MSD in australian bouncy pitch. Why Rahul is not told to open? He is anyway on the field from the first over!!!!....Let him open with Gauti, VVS to 1st down, followed by SRT, Viru, Virat/Rohit, Ashwin, MSD....Then viru could play his strokes, VVS was almost always successful at no.3....Rahul is usually good in opening and Aswin has better technique than our captain. It is not fair to Rohit to start his life in of the fastest bouncy pitch in the let Virat play one more....

  • wnwn on January 8, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    If Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman are not performing in overseas tours you might as well replace all 3 with younger players. At least then you will have excellent fielders who can keep the team morale up when the opposition is something like 2-200. We all know youngsters will always come good in India.

  • longandshort on January 8, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    Drop Dravid, Laxy, Gambhir (forgot he is not doing too good) and Virat. Take on Rohit and two other batsmen and bowler. Ashwin showed some class getting his 50. Note to self for the "batsmen" on the team.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:38 GMT


  • longandshort on January 8, 2012, 16:37 GMT

    Drop Dravid, Laxy and Virat. Take on Rohit and another batsmen and bowler. Ashwin showed some class getting his 50. Note to self for the "batsmen" on the team.

  • yesbose on January 8, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    Why can't the BCCI step in and get the youngsters to play county cricket so that they can assess the young crop and provide them the experience of playing on foreign conditions before getting them in the team. Not only the batsmen but the bowlers also. Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma etc. all failed against the lowly West Indies in West Indies where VVS Laxman succedded. They certainly are not ready to replace anyone in the Indian team. Maybe Pujara is. But they will play a few home series and say that they are ready. Surely the void left by Ganguly is still there with no ready replacement in sight in the near future.

  • mgiri1983 on January 8, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    Mr manjrekar if you could not respect the greats then you dont have any rights to say anything to them.Just to get mike in the hands & say anything is not good.just compare your records with laxman you got to knw reality. Guys y laxman becomes bali ka bakra all d times y not sachin,sehwag & dravid.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Sanjay Manjrekar and others who are saying to Drop Laxman because they were not great players ever........Great players can't talk like this......Just Simple they are Jealous of Laxman because Laxman have been playing since 15 Years......Sanjay Manjrekar Shame on you......

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    Droping vvs laxman is not a good option...Replacing virat with rohit sharma is a good option..i think laxman should be back to his no.6 slot..allowing rohit at 5..sehwag and ghambhir havent yet found their partnership goin..rahul is a class act @ 3..but hasnt been able to concentrate with things happening around..sachin is the master...and dhoni will regain his midas touch back in perth.If dhoni goes in with virat kohli then kholi should be sent at no.3 and dravid @ no.5..the idea behind send the youngesters ahead of the seniors players is that, thet wouldnt feel any they have senior players to follow..Dhoni is not technically sound but he is a worthy captain and should think about it..

  • FAB_ALI on January 8, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    VVS is the one who's going to score runs at Perth!!!! But I still think India should start building a team for the future by phasing out the seniors gradually and he will be the first to go.!

  • kanthreddy on January 8, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    I dont think Dhoni will be selected even into Bangladesh Test eleven with his batting skills. His conservative captaincy also best suited for ODI'S where he can contain runs and wait for wickets to fall. A test captain should be more aggresive and innovative. If we need to look at future, I think one of the three stalwarts(Most probably Laxman) should be replaced with Rohit Sharma for the rest of 2 matches. Kohli should be given more chances if selectors think he is for future. Coming to batting performances, sachin looks best until he reaches 70 or 80(most probably thinking about 100). Dravid is always a class act, I think he will play well in the rest of the matches. The main culprit according to me is Sehwag who throws his wicket and exposes the middle order. I agree that he plays his natural game but should not be at the expense of teams chances to post a good score. He should atleast play for first 10 - 15 overs just to get feel of the pitch.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    Indian board has to use his power and dictate ICC that they will play test cricket only in subcontinent and all the members should come to this part of world to play test cricket with India, that's the only way India will remain on the top of cricketing world, concentrate in IPL and make money…..

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    This is not the right time to make changes in the Indian squad for the Perth Test,it will more demoralise the Indian team,As a Pakistani,I am the fan of cricket,I would retain this squad for the remaining two tests,because right now India is badly under pressure and new comers will add more problems because they cannot settle on the tracks like Perth and Adelade oval.Just the problem is Shawag,he needs to be patience and try to play the big innings he do not under stand the fielding trap made for him he needs basic coaching as an opener.

    I am insisting time and again that Dohni should talk with Sachin for field placement do not send him on the boundary line,he can be useful close to captain and read the situation and let captain know should they need to do,take example of Ponting and Clarke,India should think if they going to be aggressive or defensive at the start of the Perth test.

    Retain the squad for the next two test matches.

    Cricinfo please publish,missing ariticles are pain .

  • bingohaley on January 8, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    I would keep only the ones above 35, and get in some reinforcements. Anna Hazare for example.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:26 GMT

    Who The hell is SANJAY MANJAREKAR? :O

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    I am also of the view that Rohit and Virat should be give their respective chances. Playing VVS in the next few matches wont do India good in future. Asking about Sachin and Dravid, Sachin is still scoring his runs, Dravid still seems to be in god touch. And we dont have any problem with our no 3 batsman. Moreover if Virat or Rohit comes to form then its jolly for India. Virat has scored lots of runs in ODI's. Atleast in every series he has scored a hundred. And Rohit has been prolific over the past few months especially the series against the Windies. He has been doing it from the t20 WC at the west indies, when he began by scoring a fighting 78* against the Aussies. He continued it over a period of time. So i think its better to drop VVS and give Virat another chance.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    Why don't Manjrekar get into a pair of white trousers and replace VVS with himself so that we could see some real substance rather than mouth blabbering? It's easy to be a hopeless critic but very hard to practically make a difference. As someone mentioned, this is perhaps the best possible batting line India has and the actual problem may be in the toothless bowling coupled with a very, very ordinary captaincy.

  • Chestnutgrey on January 8, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    Gambhir and Dravid to open, followed by Laxman, Tendulkar, Rohit, Wridhiman Saha, Ashwin, Mithun, Yadav, Zaheer, Vinay Kumar. This should be t he tream. gambhir can captain.

  • RK.Chandru on January 8, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    I have played a lot of gully cricket and based on it, I too can give team India a tip or two... This is Indian Cricket. A big mess and every empty vessel will make a noise here. I bet, no one in his wildest imagination even would have dreamed of India winning against Ausies 4-0 or even by a lesser margin. Why everyone is here naming a scapegoat for the losses thus far? more than Ashwin, Ishant needs to be replaced. not with a spinner though; but, a better pacer. If performance is the criteria, every member in the team needs to be replaced, including the captain.

  • mgiri1983 on January 8, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    I have hurted very badly by manjrekar comments that he wants to drop laxman.the guy australians fear most.Mr Manjrekar pls think twice before you speak i knw that you guys getting money for saying all the stupidity.Hw many runs u hv scored against aussies????.Sorry but laxman is still the best in business.I am agreed with khan1983 that laxman is the only player who has scored the most runs along with tailenders.He is an unsung hero.Otherwise he deserved to be the captain of india.if you wana drop drop dhoni & make laxman as the new captain of india.You will see the result.just see the last 3 years performance of got to know why he is vvs. Please dnt use these stupid comments ever

  • AussiDesi on January 8, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    Cricinfo probably wouln't publish this comment since I am being critical of their contributors. These former players are classic hypocrites; they assume Indian cricket fans have forgotten how well they performed in overseas tours and how long they kept playing despite poor performances. Guys, tell me how many matches Manjreker, Shastri, Vengsarkar and others here won overseas for India? There is no doubt Laxman has - don't listen to these guys, keep Laxman and give him honorable exit.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:18 GMT

    all rubbish talking is going on..........kohli is unfit for the test could u remove laxman????

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:18 GMT

    The time has now come for the Indian selectors to drastic steps and to build the team for the future.Laxman and Dravid should be asked to hang their bats.They did yeoman service to the Indian cricket but one can not remain their forever.Both of them had different style of batting and their contribution to Indian cricket will always be remembered.They should not be dropped during the series, keeping in view their contribution and status but they should be asked to announce their retirement after the series.It is not going to make any difference whether they play or not because India is going to loose this series 4- 0.There should be only one change in the time,rohit Sharma should be included in place of virat Kohli

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:16 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    Virat should be replaced by Rohit Sharma and should he fail in the remauning 2 tests both should not be considered for cricket. Our chief selector seems to have a soft corner for Virat or does he have a god father in BCCI

  • amjadmayo on January 8, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    We need good bowlers. If we good bowlers then results might be changed.

  • cricket-is-passion on January 8, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    I dont understand why these people are always talk about seniors though it may or can consider based last two overseas tours including Aussies. I think they also need to look at filling the team with all rounders. I have been emphasizing this but unfortunately none were published by cricinfo not sure why :(. Any ways, every one is talking abt Sachin, Dravid, and VVS I think they also need to look at consistency, u cannot give 100% gaurantee that Viru clicks since he doesnt want to change his style irrespective of conditions, I think that is another aspect BCCI need to look at. Instead of forced retirement, I would say rotate them and have only two seniors (SRT, RD, VVS) play any time and rotate these three so there is no insecurity and everyone can perform well.

  • fareeduetian12 on January 8, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    lol@charlie2921972 team...good joke

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:12 GMT

    Groom Pujara, Rohit & Rahane for Middle order. Kohli & Raina needs to develop technique for facing quality fast bowling, esp. outside subcontinent, before being serious contenders. Include Irfan in swinging conditions. Yadav & Varun can be groomed into real jewels. Ashwin is perfect bowling all-rounder in all formats. Do away with bits and pieces players like Vinay Kumar or Mithun.

  • StatisticsRocks on January 8, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    @Rahul, Good point. No one seems to worry abt bowling and this is not surprising as we have been a nation known to produce good batsmen and not good bowlers. I am not saying its the right thing but unfortunately its the truth. We need a drastic change in the whole system and just letting go senior players is not neccessarily the solution. Unless we start building hard bouncy tracks at the under 18 level, all the young players want to do is bat. The baord has a lot on its hands and I sincerely hope it realizes that or else we will reach a day where we wont qualify to plpay test cricket. I hope that day doesnt come.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    Openers fail and Dravid and VVS get the blame. It is time to bat Schewag lower in the order and bring a real opener, one who can bat twenty overs. It is time for Dhoni to deliver with bat and gloves and with more pro-active captaincy. He is mediocre as a keeper and his bat is weak, exscept for one-dayers and his captaincy is lost in trying situations, field placing and rotating bowlers. Play Rohit, Virat is pressing. Schewag must adapt or leave. Enough of the Yoda stuff.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    i don no y vvs is always the first name in the to be dropped list.what has ms dhoni done in test cricket? he was safe cos the four batsman in the side were posting the totals.if u take captaincy then he has won just one test in foreign soil(against decent opposition),his strategies were poor and when have we seen him motivating his side? we even saw sachin adressing the huddle but never seen dhoni do it, all we can see from him is the hands on hips.he needs to go out if u r talking about performance. remember how dada used to lead, atleast he faught and never did he stand idle and allow the game to go on its own course and ofcourse we never saw series whitewash when dada was there.

  • ansram on January 8, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    Laxman has had a very poor run overseas and it is risky to continue to have him in the team. We certainly do not have a replacement for Laxman yet, but we need to groom youngsters for the future. Dravid was in sublime touch in England and deserves a spot. But we need to replace Dravid too in the near term, as too many seniors is affecting while India field. Sachin, as usual is class and may be there for 3-4 years. Sehwag needs to be more responsible and has to make sure he safely bats out the first 50-100 deliveries he faces.

  • Nampally on January 8, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Fab 3 are coming to the end of their careers. It is best to play only 2 of the 3 .This enables one youngsters in the XI. Only Sachin is batting consistently with Ashwin the next best. Dravid is more consistent than Laxman. Indian batting was touted as the best in the World in 2011, but not anymore.Hence Srikant & Dhoni's assertion of calling this "the best team" is false! These 2 guys are blaming batting for the team failure. How can the batting consistently fail in the best team? What about bowling - gave 620 runs to claim just one wkt in the best team? These are just excuses & justification for poor & unbalanced squad.This team has no alternate opening bat to replace Gambhir & Sehwag. Hence their spot is guaranteed.They cannot drop the "legends".No alternates to replace the current 4 bowlers because bench strength is poor. Team is crying out for at least one all rounder & one good Seamer,Mr.Srikant. Put your Money where your mouth is & make the Indian team more competitive - OK?

  • rapidchase88 on January 8, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    Well, Test Grandpa Sachin, Dravid should play they are playing very good, Test PAji VVS and Veeru also should play. They can score 300 on their day. They are in good form too. Dhoni team lead, Zak lead bowler can not touch them. Remaining Gambir has to play he just found his form. No replacement for him as Rahane failed in both practice matches. Gambir has to continue as opener. So now we have Kohli who did very well in the past, however he used play up in the order, 1 down or 2 down, I feel Rohit is better choice as he can play 4 down batsman better than Kohil.(in one day format as well, 4down is Rohith place) He also very good while playing with tail. Ashwin did not get a single wicket and next match at Perth, every one know it won't support spin. I will be surpised if Aswin play next match for sure, not for his talen caz of conditions. So I will see TWO changes in the NEXT MATCH, One Rohith will play for Kohili and Seem bowler replace Ashwin.

  • Zahidsaltin on January 8, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    DON'T DO IT AS THEY DO IN OUR PAKISTAN. India has already lost two matches and in the process they have allowed both australian big guns ponting and hussy to come out of the pressure situation. Inclusion of Rohit is not going to turn the tables here and I personally think it's a disrespect to a star batsman like Laxman to get dropped in the middle of an overseas series. If india is destined to win or draw a match then it will happen with the same batsmen who have earlier performed all over the world. I think the main question here should be the bowling department as they have to find a way to get 20 overseas wickets and that is not happening at all here just like it was in England.India must wait until the end of the series if they want to drop a star batsman because this drop is going to be permanent and should be done in an honourful way.

  • anita1_cric on January 8, 2012, 15:56 GMT

    Comeon Former players ... Why only Laxman... Laxman had won many games by staying at the crease. He and dravid are the only player with technigue and plays for the team. Drop SRT , Sewhag.SRTnever plays for the country. SRT did not even care to stand for a day . was just playing shot for his record as thoufht it is ODI no technique. Sehwag how long can he suruve w/o proper footwork and tehnige....i mean jjust by playing basebal.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    They can think about dropping Laxman after the series, if he doesn't perform well but it would be daft to even think of dropping him during a series against Australia. Media and the so-called experts always make him the fall guy whenever India loses. They talked about axing him in 2008 after the tour of Sri Lanka; but many of his best performances have come after that.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    Why isn't anybody shouting to drop Sachin Tendulkar- who is way past his expiry date? Gaekward says Tendulkar "still has the class". Then why doesn't he have the form to play according to the needs of the team? Why can't he forget personal milestones that if achieved in Australia will 'boost' his advertisement ratings?

    If there is one batsman who can save India it is Rahul Dravid- The Time Tested Unsung Hero of India- who is unlike Indian batsmen. He can play at home and away from home.

    The Indian Think Tank may find it worthwhile in thinking on how to replace the bowling unit. It's the bowlers who need to take 20 wickets to inch a team to victory in Tests. So far Indian bowlers have managed 24 wickets in two tests.

    Also remember: the more the Indian Think Tank thinks about filling holes in a sinking ship, the more the men down under are gaining confidence and inching towards a second successive whitewash of Team India overseas. That is where the challenge lies.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:51 GMT

    Vry stupid decision that ll be,if drop LAXMAN..He is one of the greatest..I think Drop virat and replace ROHIT is more wise decision...

  • explorer18 on January 8, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    Whatever they do, they have to focus on winning the next test. Period. Except Sachin, all the others had only really 1 good innings at the most, and 3 poor innings. Virat had no good innings and looked completely out of sorts. If India has to win the next test, Virat has to go first. Sorry, Maninder's comment harks back to stone age, when we were resigned to losing regularly. Don't agree with that especially.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    Good God.. Now i understand why India struddles in overseas. Ther prefrer name over players. Sehwag hit a double ton at wrong time and suddenly became the most favourite darling of Indian people. The truth is, Sehwag does not fit in the team on seaming wickets. I know Indian supporters and selectors will not like it because nobody mentioned him in their views but its a bitter truth. And poor VVS becoming the scapegoat of the failure. India failed in all departments of the game and look who is being victimized "LAXMAN".

  • Kuka1990 on January 8, 2012, 15:48 GMT

    Dear Sanjay M, I regard you as a great cricketing mind. But here with the title of article I do not agree. Any team in the world does not play a batsman if the number of his down is not available or at least around that. For example, Australia is playing Shaun Marsh at down 1 and pushed Ricki down to 2nd because they are looking at future. So if Kohli is a 1 down player then why are we playing him at Number 6. Just because number 6 spot is available does not mean we have to play Kohli there. When number 3 spot becomes available we can play him then . Right now Number 6 is available and Rohit is number 5 or 6 player so lets play him in. When Dravid is not available or any other adjustment can be done for number 3 or 4 then lets play Virat in. Also Dhoni himself is not a fit for Tests. Dinesh Kartik is better keeper and better Test Batsman, he has proven that in the past but is being overshadowed y Dhoni. Poor guy.

  • Rajeev129 on January 8, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    Why only Rohit into the playing XI, why not Rahane for either of those openers ?

    How can u say that Laxman be dropped from this team, put up a survey poll on Cricinfo home page by questioning who is better for 3rd test among Laxman and Rohit. Will you get more than 30% votes for Rohit ? He does't even know how WACA pitch plays. Definitely its not Laxman, in my opinion Gambhir should be dropped if not Sehwag and ask Dravid to open.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:41 GMT

    As someone who has admired VVS for a long time, it is hard for me to accept the truth that it might just be time for him... What is even more painful is that, less than 12 months ago, he was the one winning every second test match for India... Not necessarily through big knocks, but knocks that were meaningful and matchwinning... Even then, his performances in England and Australia suggest that it might be time for him to go!!!

  • nikkam on January 8, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    the same team should be persisted with, atleast for the remaining two srikkanth is the best test team possible....after the tour the axing can begin....the focus should be on giving the aussies a good fight in the remaining tests...this team is capable of that...shewag and gambhir should be put on notice as much was expected of both...technically sound batsmen such as mukund, rahane, pujara and rohit should be given a place of laxman and dravid...what about developing an allrounder??..SA got philander, eng got broad, Aus got watson...they are all going to rule the test arena for a long time...instead of dropping any of the batsmen, yadav can be replaced by irfan....bowling always fast does not get be fair, india competed in first test, but were always behind after a poor first innings score in the second...i expect the team to be competetitive for the next two tests...

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    Sanjay manjrekars career got over because of people Like Ganguly,dravid and laxsman. So its natural he will say that drop laksman

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    FANTASTIC! comment by Dilip Vengsarkar...

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:38 GMT


  • theswami on January 8, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    Kohli must be dropped for good, Laxman should be given a break for the next 2 tests. Ashwin should be played @ No.7 as an all-rounder. The playing XI for Perth should be Sehwag, Gambhir, Rahane, Tendulkar, R.Sharma, Dhoni, Ashwin, Khan, I.Sharma, V.Aaron, U.Yadav. 4 seamers in Perth with the intelligent off-spin of Ashwin would be a potent attack. The fear would be in a batting failure as barring Tendulkar & Ashwin, no one else is among the runs.

  • Nalin_007 on January 8, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    What we need to understand is except for very few Insdian Batsmen past and present has being able to cope with tours outside India. They continue to fail, it happened in England as well, when they got THRASHED. In the Home series with West Indies they almost lost it as well. All the failed cricketers come back home and then under home conditions scores a few runs and probably a couple of centuries and then all in forgotten and we are a happy bunch. I feel sorry for VVS as well, since he has been a terrific player, but since late not being able to produce the goods. To couple with this we did not have a good qualityt spinner. Ashwin's stock ball is the ball that goes straight, how ironic as an off spinner who cannot spin, and is relying on a ball hat Does not spin to take a wicket. We need a total overhaul

  • harikeshan on January 8, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    Stop Playing IPL, start Focussing on Real Cricket, Players need to be put on Notice. No wonder the Australian team is so Ruthless. Be it Mark Taylor, Steve Waugh or Ricky Ponting the AXE was swung just to get them outisde their comfort zone. Stop selecting players on past merit. Everyone should play Ranji Trophy to Qualify.

  • KishoreSharma on January 8, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    Ever since they dropped Venkatesh Prasad as bowling coach and brought in Eric Simmons (Gary Kirsten's mate), our bowlers have stopped developing. Prasad was a fine coach, having been tutored by Dennis Lillee, and bowlers like Ishant Sharma credited him with their initial development. In addition, the BCCI has reduced the importance of Lillee's MRF pace academy and shifted prominence for pace bowlers' development to the National Cricket academy. Taken together, these two factors have impacted on the development of our pace bowlers - including the fact that many of them are unable to sustain their levels of pace and have also become injury-prone.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:31 GMT

    How about dropping Kohli instead? Let us face it. Most of these young folks are not Test players. I can bet a fair amount of money on the fact that they are not even comfortable with hook and pull. We need people like Sunil Gavaskar and Kumble in charge of Indian Cricket.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    hahah the support for vvs seems to be from hydrabad people only!! if dravid was to be dropped there would be an uproar in karnatka...the problems of states!

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:29 GMT

    sehwag should be dropped as he is not performing so well in tests...give another chance to VVS and bring rohit in....ask dravid to open the match!!!

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    well honestly i wouldnt dare change the line-up now.If india loses another game that will mean 3-0 which means the 4th test will be very hard to win,so i would suggest to go with the ageing giants in this series and the next series to drop one senior and play a youngster

  • henchart on January 8, 2012, 15:25 GMT

    Maninder Singh is spot on .Lose with youngsters ,Indians are losing with declining giants anyway.Dravid should bat at no. 6 .Rohit Sharma or Kohli must come in at no.3 and VVS shoud cool the heels in pavilion.It would be better if Ojha plays instead of VVS and Dhoni is bold enough to come at No.6 and Ashwin bats at No.7 on WACA pitch.This is the right time to ease VVS out.Then comes Dravid if Indians lose 4-0 .Nobody dare suggest that Meastro retire.He will go on his own terms .

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:25 GMT

    I would like to see sehwag at no 6, rahane should be a given a go.... vvs should be dropped for he is no way looked irfan pathan can bowl long spells he should be recalled for last test match...ashwin playing well in aussies because there is no pressure when he came to bat spinners are on so please stop comparing him with virat or senior 3rd test line up would be rahane,gambhir,rohit.sachin,dravid,sehwag,dhoni,ashwin,zak,yadav,sharma....

  • Universalthinker on January 8, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    Jaffas..Whom u'll drop... the person who played several tough innings and took India from down under on several instances. Everyone knows that we need to do some changes and have some young blood in team..but it should be in phase wise. Virat has got his chances its time for Rohit to get his chance. Virat was already dropped earlier but he didn't changed his technique. World knows Test is different from ODI or T20s...not everone can play test. Dhoni, Raina, Virat are only for short formats. Take someone who can play with patience and have right technique.Jaffar, Manoj have better technique. Then think of dropping seniors.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    Drop Sehwag just to teach him how to be a responsible batsman. Others at least tried to stay at the crease but this guy is always wreckless no matter what the situation is.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    I would drop Sanjay Manjraker from any forum that allows him to share his views.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:20 GMT

    Indian is loosing only due to Duncan Fletcher. GARY Kristen should come back ......

  • FrankMeister on January 8, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Yeah I agree, but I think we shouldn't lose sight of our strength in bowling. The 3 bowlers + Ojha instead of Ashwin should play along with Rohit replacing VVS. Now we become formidable, even away. Rohit brings an extra fielder as well as ojha who is a good fielder. We have 2 extra fielders now and it gives me no doubt to say that we will win the next 2 matches.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Yeah dropping Laxman at this stage might prove to be a little premature in my opinion.No matter how down and out India are in this series,as a team they can't afford to go into the next test taking it merely as an opportunity to try out youngsters,rather they should go in looking for a win(however distantly possible it might seem to be) by having their best XI turn out for the same.Teams always look to induce a youngster in a winning atmosphere and not in drastically abysmal scenarios such as this. The young batsmen need to be phased in gradually.Putting them straight in the firing line by making them play on what will surely be a testing pitch at the WACA,will hardly do any good to their confidence.Rather they should be allowed to gain some confidence in the home test matches and translate the same overseas in due time. Getting in Sharma for Laxman might leave our batting line-up all the more fragile and insecure right now.If Sharma is to be played,Kohli should be the one to make way.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:17 GMT

    We need to start building a team VVS [Laxman] should be droped

  • PrajithR on January 8, 2012, 15:16 GMT

    Finally people has started speaking about the Elephant in the room (VVS Laxman)... He is certainly the worst fielder in Indian team (may be in the World)... He leaks at least 50 runs in filed & running b/w wickets ( and so a slip position is Reserved for him)... Time has come to move beyond him

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    The most constructive comments come from Chetan Chauhan. Lateral thinking is the need of the hour. Dropping one guy, getting another one is fine, but more importantly its necessary to think different. I don't envy poor Rohit Sharma, he gets a debut on the fastest pitch in the world. It cannot be easy for him either when all the giants around him have failed. Why not give Rahane a go as well in place of Gambhir?

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    There is very little chance that India is going to win the test at Perth. Therefore, it is clear that we need to look at the future and phase out seniors. This will give us the opportunity to also check whether Virat has the determination to belong at this level or not. He clearly does not have the ideal technique, but, he is not that far from it either. A year or two at this level should hone him. Of course, Rohit Sharman must be played. So, obviously Laxman has to go. He cannot handle the second new ball and opens up the flood gates. This has happened at least 4 times in last 5 months. Well played Laxman - we love your game, but, NOW its time to go.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    India needs young blood at this point. The selection team and the captain MS Dhoni, should always have an eye to find talented players in Ranji trophy, Duleep trophy and such domestic games as and when its possible. India would be successful only if the team doesn't rely on single player, and all players must play their share. Their must be atleast 2 to 3 good partnerships of about 150 runs in all innings. Players must try to be consistent and most players selected for a series must be given a chance.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Request Mr. Manjrekar to be more matured in doing the talking, 37 for 3wickets down and our young so called bowlers allowed 650 score. Lucky they declared, and Mr. manjrekar finds fault on Laxman as he expected all the runs (say 700+ to be scored by laxman, surprising nobody find fault in Shewag, Gambhir, Dhoni and our so called Virat. Get matured in speaking and deliver the right words. India today has got its respect in tests because of these three. I do not thing even Gavaskar, Kapil or any veteren ever brought us glory in tests. These three have a lot to give still. Do not push the legends away for at least till 2013. Khris Srikanth has a matured head and he wont do it.

  • Baundele on January 8, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    India is losing because of their bowlers. After fielding for such a long time, a demoralizing batting unit may crumble under testing condition. Laxman is one of the most under rated cricketers. He is performing quite well to be in the test team, without being replaced by some IPL T20 heroes.

  • JustIndian on January 8, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    Drop VVS Laxman? How can Manjrekar make that statement? Laxman has always delivered when the team needed most.. the deciding factor of almost every series that India has saved or won in last 5 or more years. Why not drop Dravid..does he have the technique now?..the bricks of the WALL keep breaking very often when stumps are uprooted. Why not Tendulkar?..when was the last time Tendulkar played in crisis and saved or won a test?.. The question should be not about dropping players in middle of a test series..rather how the team was lead, preperation and the attitude when facing the australians. Dhoni should STEPUP and take the BLAME for the poor show rather than entirely blaming the batting. The stage for our current situation reflects how team was lead..Lack of motivation, meek body language, the tactics of not applying aggressive pressure when australians were struggling in both the tests are significant factor of india loosing the tests. Bold and Aggressive Play is the only way to win

  • marcs on January 8, 2012, 15:05 GMT

    Instead of dropping batsman, let's talk about bowlers who are unable to take 20 wickets in a test match. After Zaheer's wonderful spell, None of our bowlers were able to produce a single wicket taking delivery. Let's first concentrate developing quality bowler's rather than concentrate on dropping batsman who are our only hope to salvage some pride from remaining matches.

    Dropping Lax when he has started showing some form will only do more damage as his matching winning capabilities abroad has been excellent (not so long ago it happened in SA). And moreover Virat has quite a bit of homework to be done before he can start playing the longer format.

  • Charindra on January 8, 2012, 15:05 GMT

    Kohli should be dropped, for his batting failures, poor technique and horrible attitude on the field! Such an arrogant fella.

  • chapathishot on January 8, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    All the above comments except chetan chauhan is utter foolishness.I also have a feeling that Shewag should go down he middle order for two fold reasons save our stroke player from the new ball and strengthen the weak middle order once the greats go.

  • DYSP on January 8, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    If India is out at 169 with stars players then it is better that we have to give chance to youngster in place of big trio. Question how many years these 3 players will play in future. They all already crossed 36 years. what youngster will do. This Australia team is not strong team against India. Even though we lost to them. Our batting lineup is very strong on paper. Perth is not ground to chance to Rohit to make his test debut. Even big players are failed on this venue. This is fastest pitch in the world.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:01 GMT

    Looking at Kohli,i don't feel he's a good backfoot player and he's shown no. of times that he's prone to balls outside the off stump on the pitch which assists movement,pace or bounce,anyone of them.He should work harder to qualify for test XI.The main problem with all Indian batsman is today that anyone who settles in doesn't play a big inning,and this is the so called effect of IPL.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 8, 2012, 14:59 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    See, let's all agree one fact. India's test team is going to decline irrespective of who you replace... The selectors are really not thinking of dropping anyone, eventhought there is so much temptation because, none of the young guns have actually fired. Virat, Raina Yuvraj and Mukund have all failed in overseas conditions. I now get a feeling that dada was unfairly dropped. Overseas Test match experience is not that easy to get... but still considering that the big 3 are getting older, we have to axe them, but be prepared for surprises.

  • ChuckyDoll on January 8, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Love the idea of playing Sehwag and Dravid lower in the order. Bring in 3 new faces. Play Raina, Kohli, Raina and Pujara fpr a while.

  • gyrase on January 8, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    How many matches we will have to lose for his one century. They will never retire ,they will have to be droped, all 3 of them.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    i am not sure that i want vvs to dropped midway during a series against australia i will be suprised but not shocked but after the series all have to go ALL 3 ARE MY FAVOURITES BUT EVERYBODY HAS A TIME I AGREE THESE 3 CAN PERFORM but our next test series in oct 2012 next away series is in nov 2013 surely the big arent going to be there then so give them experience of test cricket before going on 4 big away series and win home series with youngsters against eng aus nz but dropping vvs midway will be harsh and the above speakers havent done a bit of what vvs has done for indian cricket

  • Sporty-critic on January 8, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    Atleast, more people have started thinking of replacing the much talked about 'Indian Middle Order'. The need to do so now is more than later. So, instead of just mulling over how to change the complexion of the team, just go ahead and give the youngsters, the much needed opportunity. The current lot have served the country for long and they have been rewarded, many times over. Allow the youngsters also to prove their worth.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    Why not drop MS, allow Virender to captain the team and have Wriddhiman play in the middle order. Drop Virat and give Rohit a go.

  • Don_Simon on January 8, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    IND fans should realize the bitter truth. Introducing young players one by one is better than having to rush 3 of them into the team in 1-2 years time. When did Ganguly retire? IND still looking for a suitable player at no.6 position. Hats off to Sanjay Manjrekar, for the eye opener.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    My take on the team for next test : Drop VK for his attitude and get in RS to replace VK. I am not convinced on dropping VVS. I want to see a change in the bowling department as well. But the question is whether to drop Umesh or Ishant and get Vinay or Mithun into the playing XL...... I dont feel the pace at which Vinay/Mithun bowl would do any justice to the bouncy conditions @ Perth.

  • debaduttapanigrahi2011 on January 8, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    This was the series which could have taken Sehwag , Gambhir and Dhoni to the next level.They could have made this series their own.Many are criticising the seniors for hanging too long or criticising the young guns for not having enough skills.But i feel the seniors have made their name in their youth in such tours.May be not consistently they have scored for which i blame the slow indian pitches.And talking about young guns Kohli and Sharma are our best hope.So they should be given time to adjust.Which leaves Sehwag, Gambhir and Dhoni .Its high time they make their presence felt.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 8, 2012, 14:49 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 14:49 GMT

    It's high time that the 3 senior players make way for some new talent, kohli should be given more test matches to play, it's too early to write him off. At least for next 2 Test matches, Ojha should replace Ashwin, Rohit should replace Dravid. This is greedy cricket from seniors to hang there so long just for personal records. who cares who has the highest run in test, it's all about the team winning the matches and nothing more than that. I am sure if Gavaskar and Srikanth still be playing test cricket, we would not have seen Tendulkars and laxmans. ALL THE 3 SENIORS SHOULD GO NOW. How can we say that these are the best until you don't give opportunity to younger players.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    Who cares!!!!!. The IPL is going to start in a couple of months. Test cricket s dead, now that India are no longer number 1. BCCI should take its bat home and refuse to play test cricket ( except against NZ, BD, WI and SL).

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    hahah the support for vvs seems to be from hydrabad people only!! if dravid was to be dropped there would be an uproar in karnatka...the problems of states!

  • Leggie on January 8, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    India lost the first test due to tactical mistakes and lost the second after being psyched out at being bowled out for 191 for first day. All that the team needs now is self-belief and I am certain that the collective wisdom of all the seniors will help us put in a much better show in Perth. IMHO, there is a bit of over reaction and too much of mud slinging without careful analysis. I do see a need for making a few changes, and it starts with a) Gambhir: His technique looks completely out of sorts despite scoring that fifty plus in Sydney. Replace him with Rahane. b) Kohli to be replaced by Rohit and c) Ashwin replaced by Ojha/Vinay Kumar. And irrespective of what the results are for the remaining two matches there are two people who cannot be part of Indian cricket anymore - a) Duncan Fletcher: Don't see any strategy coming out!! b) The bowling coach: Who can explain why Ishant was bowling against the wind despite being India's fastest bowler and someone who is not known for swing!!!!

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    Life can change colors so fast that sometimes it is hard to believe. A ground staff just a year ago is now the strike spinner in a team which has dominated world cricket in the last couple of decades like non other. A player who was worshiped just 20 days ago is now been found guilty of all charges and sent to dungeons by the same guys who worshiped him. Strange but true. My condolences goes to Laxman and I strongly believe, he does not deserve this kind of farewell. Like Ponting said, "he didnt want to go on a low". Big players should decide there own retirement and they should quit when in a high, it leaves behind fond memories.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:43 GMT

    what about irfan pathan drop ishant sharma and give irfan pathan a chance he can bat also they should try pujara and sharma india opening never clicks gambhir and sehwag arent working maybe try dravid and sehwag for opening

  • NALINWIJ on January 8, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    Of the fab4 the only one who is in good form at the moment is Tendulkar and I feel that he will be the only one of this group still playing in 2 years. How other talented players get blooded will depend on the courage of the selectors. Australia selectors have less talented young batsmen to bring in than India has and this together with the form of the senior trio means that they will continue to be selected.We are overlooking the fact that the top 3 in the Aussie batting line up is in worse form than the Indian counterparts and as left handers they were vulnerable to Zaheer Khan bowling at off stump.Australia certainly need a right hander at the top like Watson. India will take at least 3 years after the retirement of the fab 4 to regain NO.1 spot unless they improve in bowling and fielding and the younger batsmen step up. Where is Pujara, Sharma and Raina?

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    Virat should be dropped for one test for his un sportman like conduct on the field during the last test. He should be replaced by Rohit. This pitch at Perth does not seem to help spinners. Ashwin will probably play as a batsman, he has better average this tour than virat. If only the batsman decide that they will not cut or slash until they reach a score of 25 and the fast bowlers bowl with the intention of taking wickets in the slips gully corridor. Hope the captain backs them up with an off side field.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    I seriously don't think dropping VVS is a good idea, at this point.

  • shanks1975 on January 8, 2012, 14:41 GMT

    SACHIN'S 100TH CENTURY OVER AND DONE WITH...In the past stat's for abandoned matches were not included in a players personal records....I am sure SACHIN must have scored at least ONE CENTURY in one of these abandoned matches....IN which case, SACHIN HAS ALREADY SCORED HIS 100TH INTERNATIONAL CENTURY. Does anyone have any stat's to confirm this??

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    after all who is this sanjay manjerekar and kiran moore to comment on greats like VVS..

  • TeamSelector on January 8, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    Drop Dhoni - replace him with Rohit - give the gloves to Dravid - have Sehwag lead. Can't drop Ashwin, because he's one of India's best batsman of the series & besides - he can backup the #1 spinner Sehwag with his offies. I say, let the [3] senior citizens finish off this tour & then drop Laxman & Dravid. Then as soon as Tendulkar gets his 100th ton, drop him too. Youngsters & DRS are the only way forward - bring back Yuvraj & Irfan. 1-Sehwag (C), 2-Gambhir, 3-Rohit, 4-Tendulkar, 5-Laxman, 6-Dravid (wk), 7-Kohli, 8-Ashwin, 9-Zaheer, 10-Ishant, 11-Yadav.

  • moBlue on January 8, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    @Biophysicist: your comments are spot on! some people don't let facts in the way... i read [from nish8738, and others] that VVS "can't play fast bowling now"... ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! compared to who else in *this* team, may i ask, with the exception of sachin?!? "talented" youngsters to replace VVS? what talented younsgter?!? pujara is not in *this* team , folks! you guys have got to be kidding! send in a youngster in - for practice, i take it? - at perth, one of the scariest pitches for IND batters in AUS, at the expense of VVS?!? ha ha ha ha!!! some like haleos write that VVS "needs constant help from tailenders"?!? i thought playing with the tail and scoring runs - and even winning us test matches as VVS has actually done! - was to be considered an exceptional ability! since when did it become a liability?!? go watch yout 20-20 games, people!!! ...and worship your "talented" youngsters like rohit and kohli in *those* games!!! leave the test matches alone for the rest of us fans!!!

  • Khan1983 on January 8, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    BCCI please arrange a match with a minnow like Zim or Bangladesh and allow Sachin to hit his 100th century so that he can retire than faced with the disgraceful question of when to drop him!

  • InnocentGuy on January 8, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    Replace Virat with Rohit. Drop Sehwag and let Sachin and Gambhir open. Bring in another middle order batsman for Sehwag. Sehwag has been useless in away Test series for a while now.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    I do not understand y Pujara was dropped & Kohli brought in - Kohli is a good odi player does not make him automatic choice for tests. Also Dhoni needs to be questioned seriously of his defensive fields against tail-enders - its given us horrible results. becoz he is the most successful player & captain does not mean we spoil our chances & leave him unanswerable.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    Good luck team india welcome to australia

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    Sanjay Manjrekar is like a captain who posts a fielder where the previous ball goes . Pathetic as a commentator and analyst . Please make your reviews before the series starts, show some class in the comments by at least forcasting some thing which you feel should be done rather than making such comments while something goes wrong . Laxman is class apart , aged for sure but should play the series as virat hasnt shown much quality . Let virat play all the home series matches till nov 2013 before he boards the plane for another overseas series and gain some confidence .

  • Rakim on January 8, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    I would drop all 3. Young players should play.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:32 GMT

    Why cant they do same as ODI team?? bring in yougsters and look to future...may be we will loose more now but long term it will be more success..

  • stormy16 on January 8, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    Yes may be its time for change but to drop Sewag down the order is radical and a knee jerk reaction. May be it is time for Lax to make way for Rohit but dertainly cannot drop Virat now as that will result in the merry-go-round that started with Pujara-tha chap they tried in the Windies-Raina- Rohit-Virat. All these have the class to be the next generation and India need to be patient and not expect and compare these guys to Sachin and Dravid - the two on the top of the all time list and legends like that dont come along every day.

  • Freewheeler on January 8, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    Alongside the other suggestions, I think an impassionate introspection is due for MSD. Notwithstanding his man management skills and cricketing intuition, he will never be a proper batsman in test cricket. His failures, heretofore, had been masked by a robust middle order which is no where at its best right now. He will serve himself and the nation better by retiring from test cricket and let a younger wicket keeper with a solid defensive technique take over. Many may not agree with this radical suggestion, but I think it is definitely an idea worth pondering. MSD can still skipper the ODI and T20 teams, a split arrangement that would prime a newbie for the rigors of test cricket. That said I'm not sure about the survival of test cricket beyond 2020.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    Sanjay is confusing two different issues here. One is winning a test in Australia and other is to bring in new players. For the last ten years when ever India performs badly Laxman is the name every one thinks of to drop. No one can touch Sachin and Rahul so Laxman is convenient. Virat Kohli had enough oppurtunities in West Indies and he didnt perform well. He was susceptible to the short ball. In Australia he is unable to play the full swinging deliveries. Virat is the one who should be dropped and Rohit brought in just to see how he copes up. Virat will definitely get his chances once the big three retire but he should not be persisted with in this series. Selectors have not done a bad job in selecting the team, its easy to blame the selectors. If this team cannot perform then just accept the fact that no Indian team will.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    my choice is Virat and rohit in finale XII but i wonder no one talking about viru i agree he is one of the best player but now days he paying irresponsibly ,every indian palyer should take initiative to finish match not hand over responsibility to other mates

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:29 GMT

    my choice is Virat and rohit in finale XII but i wonder no one talking about viru i agree he is one of the best player but now days he paying irresponsibly ,every indian palyer should take initiative to finish match not hand over responsibility to other mates

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    Why no one is talking about V. Sehwag...all of his dismissal were clearly gifted by playing bad shots which is due to his own stuberness of playing the he does...shouldnt he be more adjusting...clearly he puts more pressure on the rest of the team by getting out cheaply...n giving more confidence to the opposition best 11 for perth: 1. Gambhir 2. Sachin 3. Dravid 4. Rohit 5. Kohli 6. Suresh 7. Dhoni 8. Ishant 9. Umesh 11. Zaheer

  • Capt.Hilts on January 8, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    Just think why India does well after they have hit the rock bottom or surrounded by any controversy. Because that gets them fired up and suddenly they start working hard and with their talent they thrash oppositions. Point is fans should stop expecting what is not a reality, and India should work towards strong work ethics, which would take care of their performance with the talent they have got. They can look to rebuild their side after current series ends, its ideal time for Youngsters like Pujara to get matches under himt since India is playing next 2 years at home.

  • Leggie on January 8, 2012, 14:26 GMT

    @rza89, for that matter India's overseas record has been terrible since India started playing Test cricket. Do you know how many notable series have we won in the pre-Tendulkar era?? Notable ones being 1 vs WI (1971). 1 vs England (1971) and 1 vs England (1986). Its a blunder to link Tendulkar and defeats. For all those who rate Lara higher than Tendulkar, show me a series that he won it for his country in either Australia, England or SA? This is not to belittle the genius. I'm making this point only to highlight that cricket is a "team game" and successful countries are those who have a complete team performing at it's best - like Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly all at their best from 2003 to 2009 when India truly became a number one side.

  • coolitbaby on January 8, 2012, 14:25 GMT

    @Biophysicist : I agree with you mostly except for Sehwag and Gambhir. You can't force Sehwag into opening, and then say that he is failing. He was never an opener. Play him in the middle order and you will see the difference. And Gambhir has great temperament. He just needs to spend a 1-2 seasons in English county so that he can get used to the swing and bounce, and then he will be a top opener for India. Dropping such promising players is not the solution.

  • Capt.Hilts on January 8, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    Indians fans should also understand that despite having Legends like Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly, Kumble, India couldn't dominate till 2007. And they had other good players playing around fabulous five - Sehwag, Zaheer, Srinath, Harbhajan, etc since 2000. Compare this list of legends to that of Australia or any other team, records/stats wise Indians individually will always be first ones. Even the dominating team of Australia. What this says is that Australia never relied on Mcgrath and Warne alone to do jobs, it was always team effort and strong hard work that made them world beaters. Something I think Gary Kirsten as coach was successful in inducing in Indian team to an extent. India has best talent in Batsmen and Spinner department, but hard work is required to transform India from being occasional winners to regular dominating side. Dropping Laxman for now isn't going to solve that.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    Ganguly the real gentleman retired decently......Dravid & Laxman should go.

  • SomeCents on January 8, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    They will take the easy route and replace Kohli with Rohit. Laxman should be the one to go. Forget his scores. Just look at his technique. No foot movements and bat always away from the body. He plays bounce well when it is predictable bounce. He plays on anticipation. When the ball does something untowardly, he has no technique to recover. Sehwag is similar. If cricket teams were picked as mercilessly as baseball teams, these types of players will get dropped when the pitch is juicy and picked for the flat tracks or for an attack that will not swing/seam the ball. However, cricket lacks this honesty. We rave about a guy's big scores and overlook his obvious pitfalls.

  • indianpunter on January 8, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    India is playing the price for the absence of a phased succession plan. Dravid should have gone sometime in 2008-9 when his form was in the pits. Instead the team carried him, but he made runs in England ( though none here in Oz) and is difficult to drop him, just yet. Laxman looked completely out of sorts against the moving ball in England. He has to make way. This should be Dravid's last series too. We do not want these ageing stars to play the upcoming home series in India and inflate their averages. Time to give the youngsters some experience. The ageing trio's failures now outweigh their experience. Time to go, Lax and Dravid. Tendulkar by the end of the yr.

  • krik8crazy on January 8, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    As usual the "experts" are ready to drop Laxman even though he has done much better than some other batssmen in the team. Laxman is a top class player and a gentleman. Give him the opportunity to quit on his own terms at a time of his choosing. I would drop both the current openers and open with Rahane and Dravid, followed by Laxman at 3, Sachin at 4, Rohit at 5 and Virat at 6.

  • moBlue on January 8, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    so lemme get this straight... VVS out? in AUS? to be replaced by a talented youngster? heck, no!!! it is not like these "talented" youngsters - with the honorable exception of pujara who is not in this team at present - have proven that they can hold a bat in adverse circumstances, let alone "replace" the awesome VVS, that too in AUS! even on the last tour, the aussies feared VVS more than they did sachin, and 3 failed innings [followed by a 50, mind you, batting second as he usually does!] is not enough to give the great man a shove - especially when his replacements are contemptible!

  • Capt.Hilts on January 8, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    Its natural for fans to be disappointed and calling for heads when a team loses. And rightly so India has to look for young talent as Trio isn't getting any younger. I would say making changes in middle of a series won't help. Secondly, fans should understand that India's no.1 Test status was more because of rankings and less because of dominating performance. They played Srilanka tons of times. They couldn't win two home Test Series against SA, dominating side should be unbeatable at home. Their away wins were only in NZ & Sri Lanka, rest they drew in SA. Also during the phase when India became No.1, Australians were really struggling, England were not what they are now. So that has to be accepted that team was never no.1, which would reduce irrational expectations. For changes, one has to remember that even Dravid or Laxman or Tendulkar had to make debuts and they gradually became what they are now. So no youngster is going to start with average of 60 from word go.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    WTF!! just shut up Sanjay manjerakar.

  • coolitbaby on January 8, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    This Manjrekar dude wants Laxman dropped?? That makes no cricketing sense at all. No wonder Manjrekar was such a total failure in his playing days.

  • AidanFX on January 8, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    The Indian team will never drop Laxman - they don't have to heart to drop a champion mid series; totally against their style - actually most national teams wouldn't do it. That means it would either be Gambir/ Kohli or Sehwag making way - I can see Kohli making way. I agree these guys can not retire all at once; but this should be Laxman's last series. Tendulka will play forever - that's his character type.

  • Jayco on January 8, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    It's ridiculous that everyone is only concerned with the batters. This is the team that only took 4 wickets in the entire test match. It's the bowling and fielding that needs attention. Would replacing one young batsman with another really turn things around? Unrealistic.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:13 GMT

    I don't think we can blame one indian batsman (VVS), the problem is the Indian Cricket policies, India have and will always struggle on bouncing and swing tracks.

    The tracks in India are too flat, hence the players are not properly prepared to battle on these conditions.

    60%-70% of India matches are played in Asia ( Flat Tracks) , India need to prepare tracks to test their batsmen (similar to conditions outside Asia)

    I honestly think India has played their best squad in the first two test, with the failures of most of the players Rohit is a good option.

    Aust. conditions are really difficult for new players, so Pujara won't be a wise option, the batsmen need to fight and let the bowlers earn their wickets.

    changing the entire squad won't solve the problem, India needs to prepare better for tours outside Asia.

    the role of the senior players are to develop the young players, so if we get rid of them what will happen to India in the next 5-10 years ?

  • playitstraight on January 8, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    It is unfortunate to make a very very special (VVS) legend go out of the team like this, but it is true. He must go, the 'Australia's nemesis' tag of Laxman has disappeared, maybe only in India but not in Australia. Drop Dhoni, bring in Saha and make Gambhir captain. Drop Virat and give Rohit 2 Tests regardless of whether he performs or not. These are the best possible changes at the moment.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    I think this is the right time to get Rohit into the playing XI. And Virat should not be dropped as he deserves more chances after all he's just a beginner and a very good prospect for the future. And now its the big 3 Sachin, Rahul & VVS.. We all Know That Sachin has been playing top class cricket since the last 23 years and he's still performing superbly & also looked in great touch in this series...Rahul we know he's been fantastic alongside sachin and he is hard working guy and a true champion and he cannot be dropped from the test side..Now VVS there's no questioning his ability but I think its time for him to retire! I know its harsh but Rohit & Virat are the future of Indian cricket and they should play alongside with players like Sachin, Dravid to learn from those legends..

  • vivek_khyati on January 8, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    rohit and virat both deserve chance.. and indian team need to do more experiments..

    since last 2 matches ashwin has scored runs better than both, vvs and kohli.. and we have failed to take, leave alone 20, 10 wickets in 1st innings of sydney test.. so, why not bring in one more bowler.. vinay kumar can be a good prospect.. drop dravid and vvs both.. and bring in rohit and vinay/mithun..

  • sameer997 on January 8, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    Even though most of us want vvs ro be replaced i can asure all of u laxman wont be replaced in the upcomin perth test perhaps virat will be subsituted. this is what i think dhoni will do

  • SujjuS on January 8, 2012, 14:06 GMT

    Here is a better order for 3rd test considering the worst opening in the past

    Opening: Dravid & Sachin 3: Gambir 4: VVS/Rohit 5: sehwag 6: kohli 7: dhoni 8. Ashwin 9. Zaheer 10. Ishanth 11. Umesh

  • Nampally on January 8, 2012, 14:05 GMT

    @Biophysicist: Many people criticise Ponting for not scoring a test century for nearly 2 years.But he has been scoring 50's galore. In first test he got scores in both the innings. In second test he broke the jinx with a century. Ponting is also a brilliant slip fielder - second only to Dravid in slip catches. Laxman is a good batsman but he is not good in playing a seaming ball on green Aussie pitches. He is also out of form currently.In the field he is a liability. Kohli & Sharma may not be as good as VVS in batting but both are brilliant fielders, can bowl and at least Rohit is in great form.Past records & averages are good indicators of a player but his present form counts more.As for Gambhir & Sehwag they have been batting very poor & irresponsible. If India had Mukund & Utappa in the side, both could have been dropped.This squad does not have a recognized back up opener! So heavy was the faith in these openers based on their past record.Only Sachin & Ashwin consistent Indian bats

  • aarpee2 on January 8, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    The Knives are out for VVS as usual. Since Gangulys retirement we conveniently tend to forget we are yet to find a player who has performed in his place in tests overseas-be it Yuvraj,Raina and Kohli despite repeated chances. Speaking of averages pray let us know the averages of Gambhir,Sehwag and Dhoni in their last 2 years overseas in tests before you write off VVS. Similarly Ponting,Hussey and Kallis have shown the critics for what they are worth.For that matter even Sachin has lost his wicket at crucial moments in the last two tests despite being set and not held the innings together as is becoming of a true champion.

  • sarwan175 on January 8, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    Sehwag should be the first one to be dropped. He is seriously a big disgrace for batting in TEST cricket.

  • meonly_araf on January 8, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    Kohli is a very good player for ODI's and T20's, the same cannot be said in test's we need to play Pujara in test as he has lots of 1st class triple centuries behind him being run machine for Saurastra. Kohli should be left to play some 4 days ranji cricket to learn how to stick in the middle of the pitch and learn and adjust his game for tests as he currently plays thinking test is all about playing dot balls.

  • Super_Swap on January 8, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    Replace Sehwag and Laxman with Rohit and Ojha.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    I feel that India needs to look for a new captain. Dhoni has not been able to motivate the team members to perform to their full potentials and lately he himself has not contributed a great deal. Secondly, India is relying too much on the older players and not developing a team fro future. I don't see any Tedulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, sehwag, Yuvraj, Harbhajan, VVS, Gambhir coming up the pipeline. India must seriously look at the training programs to develop word class players. Thirdly, selection committee has done a very poor job of selecting the team. Selectors don't seem to have a clue how to form a team which will gel together to produce results. They themselves don't have the physique or personalities like athletes to represent a country.

  • itsmebala on January 8, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    @ Aravind CC.. Hey y to replace Ashwin dude.. He is the second leading run scorer for India.. Expecting Spin in Australian Pitch is too much, but still h6e managed to get wkts.. might b for perth we can go with 4 seamers..

  • subroto on January 8, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    I am surprised 'the stalwarts' are crying for VVS's blood, and insisting on perservering with Virat, whose average in WI was only 15.2 ! Virat has been a miserable failure overseas and has failed to live up to expectations.Most of his dismissals were due to lack of application and concentration. And his arrogance is intolerable at this early stage of his career. He should be axed forthwith to teach him a lesson, and only then may he improve his temperament.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    The greates are certainly in danger of their place now in the team for long, so why not let the young guns start their burst........

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:55 GMT

    how can anyone drop a senior player like laxman who had performed all these years from the first series outside india virat could not prove so rohit should be given a chance

  • avi82 on January 8, 2012, 13:55 GMT

    The idea of dropping seniors is practical only when you have proper replacements waiting for them in the wings. These people are simply shouting about replacement without any proper thought process. Virat couldn't even play on a flat Sydney pitch on 4th day where it wasn't doing much and their bowlers were tired, what will he do in Perth where the bounce will be so much more. Ganguly retired 3 years back and still we are struggling to find his replacement and they are talking about another replacement. First find a proper replacement for Ganguly ( No 6 spot) and then think about gradually replacing the seniors. Also include players with decent techniques like Pujara, instead of those who are anly scoring heavily on flat tracks (even ashwin and bhajji have scored hundreds in India).

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:55 GMT


  • sawifan on January 8, 2012, 13:55 GMT

    as an Aussie fan, i really hope they do drop VVS. Yes, he is not the way of the future, but he is still a class above the other batsmen waiting in the wings. This series isn't lost for India yet, a drawn series is still on the card if they play well. Picking a team for the future makes sense if there is nothing to play for, but when you can still save the series, u must pick ur best team, and Laxman is definitely part of that. He has won more matches against AUS than SRT ever has! For the sake of class, VVS really must play. Compare he 2nd innings knock at the SCG to anything Kohli has done... a huge class apart...

  • Fitzy16 on January 8, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    same thing happened to Australia, let the old guard carry us until the end, these things happen, you cant expect 3 senior players to be dropped/retired at the same time. Laxmans record is the worst (17 tons in 120 matches) by a long way, mike hussey/clarke has almost the same number of hundreds in half the matches, drop him. you cant not expect change after losing 6 on the trot, Aus 4-0

  • Nampally on January 8, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    Before the first test in Melbourne I had written in these cricinfo columns that both Rohit & Kohli should play & Laxman should be dropped.I got criticized by many questioning how can a legend be dropped. When Rohit is in such terrific form, not playing him in the XI, at the expense of out of form playe,r does not make much sense either. Now that the past cricketers say so it makes more sense! Perhaps it will take 2 more defeats for the past cricketers to support the concept of an all rounder in the XI. By playing an all rounder like Jadeja or Pathan, India has one more bowling option yet not weaken their batting. These are common sense choices which any team selector knows.India needs 5 bowlers badly. 4 Bowler theory is not working with the current bowlers in the squad who seem to be just as inconsistent as Sehwag & Gambhir.Dhoni, with his village background,was never cricket savvy.His selection of XI& field placing is always poor & illogical.This is one reason India is losing Tests.

  • shenoyragh on January 8, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    There we go!! No one to blame for, hold Laxman's neck!!! Thats not a solution. We have had non-performers like Gambhir, Sehwag, Kohli, Dhoni in the team. Why Laxman?? Just because he does not play lofted shots and does not have a strike rate in excess of 100?? To be honest, none of the Indian batsman have lookwd good. We should bite this fact and move ahead in the series with the same team, and not repeat the same mistakes. Maybe get Ojha in for Ashwin (Ashwin hasn't bowled badly though. But you can't do much on Aussie tracks unless you are Shane Warne).

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    India will definitely lose this series,.....its not about changing players,that can create miracles......I think,if i have to name,who should drop are:-1)MS Dhoni2)VVS laxman 3)Virat Kohli

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    The reflexes are definitely slower than four years ago when VVS, Dravid came Australia that's why in these conditions they can't match their reflexes. Dravid is going to 40 and laxman is nearby 37 so that India need to fresh legs so that they adjust in overseas condition yet this is very hard decision to make the BCCI but the time has come to press the panic button and take hard decision i still believe that dhoni is a good captain and they have no choice of replacing dhoni because of consistence performance of players and the biggest problem in Australia is the opening pair of India when Sehwag is on batting it seems like that somebody captured his both legs with cement and said to blast it's very very dangerous for team because now they know his weakness and boweled that particular area. at last India is going down by 4-0 in tests because Indian bowling attack is so weak and batting is not clicking when the time matters.

  • vik56in on January 8, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    How can VVS be dropped? His avg in the last 20 inngs is better than Gambhir and Sehwag! How can people talk to bring Yuvraj and Raina into Test playing eleven?They are duds.Even Kohli doesn't have the game for Tests more so in Australia.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    it's not abt an individual..whole team z responsible for the poor show..india shud play wid a positive approach..replacement z nt a's just an alternative..better mindset and performance z required in all da 3 departments..:)

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    I think our bowling needs to be strengthened,so rather than dropping Laxman or Kohli,Ishant Sharma and Ashwin should be dropped and replaced by Abhimanyu Mithun and Pragyan Ojha respectively.They will not be worse if not better than Ishant and Ashwin.

  • venuc1 on January 8, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    It is the bowlers who have conceded 600+ runs and got just 4 wickets. Why is everyone blaming the batsmen and VVS in particular? You cannot expect VVS, Dravid and Sachin to keep scoring like they did in Kolkata in 2001, Sydney and Adelaide in 2003-04 and so on. Those were golden days. Even now these batsmen are scoring. But they are not compensating for perennial underperformers like Dhoni, Gambhir and Kohli. The fact is that T-20, IPL and CLT20 killed cricket in India. Like Barry Richards said, call this T-20 as something else. It is not cricket.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    Yes!! I agree with Biophysicist

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    I would say virat should be dropped as he is out of form and rohit needs to be given a chance to expose his potential. Laxman has saved india in many tests

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    vvs shud nt be dropped..he must be thinking rite now where he lacked..n m sure he will deliver it in perth.. if india has to conquer perth..atleast 5 players need to clik..viru gambhir sachin zaheer dravid..:)

  • itsjustcricket on January 8, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    This article and so many others for some reason focuses on the big three instead of the real issue...why India has not produced a single test caliber player in the last 5 yrs. Only Praveen Kumar and Ashwin come close, but they wouldn't make into most other teams. The big three are still India's best batsmen abroad, if we drop them things will be even worse. Raina, Kohli, Rohit, Rahane, M. Vijay and a host of others are all capable of big innings on flat wickets but the moment the ball moves a little they are done. And we have no one close to pattinson, Cummins, Philander etc in the bowling dept.

  • Herath-UK on January 8, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    Sri Lanka have shown very encouraging signs winning without Murali on a fast bouncy wicket with new emerging stars but Kholi,Gambir,Raina or Sharma etc do not seem to have the taken the cue yet.It will be a challenge to India to show that one day they could win a Test match when Shewag,Tendulkar and Dravid retire ,their main backbone.Even in the second Test it was Tendulkar who showed some fight and his loss would be felt as much as Murali's loss to the Lankans. Ranil Herath - Kent

  • mahi4lf on January 8, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    I cant believe what im reading. im am a huge virat kohli fan but dropping laxman for him is a daft idea. laxman is a legend and has played some very valuable innings for india how can we even think about dropping him? laxman is one of those players who are not appreciated enough and i feel sorry for him. dropping him would be a big mistake.

  • sramesh_74 on January 8, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    @Gops N Pandalai - Virat Kohli typically lasts 20 to 30 deliveries at 6. If he is moves up to 3, he will last maybe 5 to 10 deliveries !!! Position does not matter. It is the technique that matters..our new generation of batting superstars do not have the game that is required to survive in tough conditions. The BCCI needs to wake up from its deep slumber and ensure lively tracks are laid out for the domestic competitions...Will they??? Your guess is as good as mine.

  • mahi4lf on January 8, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    I cant believe what im reading. im am a huge virat kohli fan but dropping laxman for him is a daft idea. laxman is a legend and has played some very valuable innings for india how can we even think about dropping him? laxman is one of those players who are not appreciated enough and i feel sorry for him. dropping him would be a big mistake.

  • Trident on January 8, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    Drop laxman,bring sharma, give one more chance for kohli, from the next series rest the veteran players , bring in mukund, pujara.Tough time for the Indians ahead.Selectors must have a long term plan.

  • CricketAbhimani on January 8, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    I agree with Biophysicist! Laxman has failed in only a couple of tests. Unfair to target him only. He is still capable of winning matches. Got a beauty to get out in the 2nd inngs at SCG. Blooding Rohit is good, but if he fails (which looks likely at the WACA), then it will not do his confidence any good. Play him at Adeleide, after looking at what happens at WACA. Why the sudden rush to play him? VVS is having a bad run, but I guess he's still dependable for 2nd inngs. Now, how many such players do we have? Virat needs to be continued for many more Tests. He's here b'cos of his +ve attitude. In limited overs matches, he brings so much of confidence if any situation. In due course, if he's really good enough for Tests, he's bound to show it here. VVS had done well too well, esp. in Aus, so it's imperative that we continue with him. Otherwise, there will be no middle order! Aus will run thro' after the fall of the first 4 wickets! Every possibility India may win and take the momemtum

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:28 GMT

    good suggestion keeping future in mind we should play with rohit as well as virat, these players are good in evey respect, once thier confidence will develop in five day format , they can serve india for long time and there will be no hole after big three

  • MOHDsarfaraz on January 8, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    need to change bating order,virat kohali should be up in the order,and the most imp thing to get rohit sharma in to playing 11 ROHIT SHARMA

  • aahahaa on January 8, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    funny to see Vengsarkar, Shastri and Manjrekar comment on who should play. These moppets, if not from Bombay and Sunny , would not have had as long a career as they did. Rohit is talented, as he has exhibited in the limited opportunities he has had, but the question is does he have the temperament for a fight. I haven't seen it, aside from the 1 day series against WI but then the Windies are so poor that anybody can have a good day or two against them. But sadly, we don't have plenty to choose (why on earth the"Jokers" discard Mukund, he looked like a proper opener).Kohli to me is a hot head and a wot, Raina is much better.

  • mmshahpe on January 8, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    One should make decisions based on facts. Ashwin's batting average is better than that of Rohit Shahrma or Kohli. He has batted well in almost every inning including a fifty in the last innings. He should stay in the team as an all rounder. Ojha should be brought in to strengthen bowling, replacing Kohli. I think Kohli is good but he is not performing at the present.

    Rohit is very talented but it is unwise to remove VVS just now when has scored a half century.

    Mirza M. Shah


  • Gizza on January 8, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    @rza89, didn't Sachin also win away in Pakistan and the West Indies (Both in 2000's)? Okay, you can say the Windies are now "minnows" but by that logic New Zealand also almost be minnows? That aside, Sehwag and Laxman should be dropped soon if not the next test. India should've brought a third opener with them. These days bowling sides block off the fours and single shots on the off-side, bowl wide of off stump and Sehwag gets suckered every single time. Even the likes of Tendulkar and Dravid shouldn't be given too many more chances. But yes, the gradual retirement of the old stars is most ideal. I can't believe after Kumble and Ganguly there has been such a long gap for the next retirement. Even if the new batsmen don't have the quality or temperament put them in there so they can accumulate that temperament to play on fast pitches. Also, Zaheer can't bowl against right-handers at all and Ishant should also go if he can't pitch it up a foot fuller on a consistent basis.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:22 GMT

    Whenever India performs bad overseas Laxman is the scapegoat...Why single out VVS for failure...So called younger batsman miserably failed on oveseas...If seniors to make way for younger players why only should apply to Other non-performing seniors like Dravid etc.,

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:22 GMT

    On second thoughts, it is Sehwag, with his not-so-productive attitude, who need to be dropped; not VVS at least for this series. Did Sehwag really TRY to play a long innings? It is Dravid and VVS who happened to get out to unplayable balls-- not Sehwag! But for medium term planning, VVS, Dravid, and finally Sachin should be replaced with youngsters. At the moment Sachin is the best batsman. So, he must be the last to go; not to facilitate his 100th or 101st hundred; purely on merits. Moreover, one may notice that young players (both batsmen and bowlers) appear to be more comfortable with Sachin than any other senior. Hence he is the best transitional link between the past and the future; so, should be used in that role for some more time to come.

  • MuradMushtaq on January 8, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    I think its time to drop VVS laxman and give Rohit Sharma a go at no.6 . And as far as kohli is concerned, he has been already given enough opportunities in england and then here in Australia....time to include Pujara or rahane at no.3 and then dravid at 4 and Sachin at 5, rohit at 6.....this will provide good combination of youth and experience.....

  • spinkingKK on January 8, 2012, 13:20 GMT

    If Australia provide a bowling pitch in WACA, India have a very good chance to win. I beleive the Indian batsmen peform best in bowling pitches. Indian batsmen can not bat too long overseas. However, if the par score is 200, they could manage 240 and that could prove to be decisive in a bowling pitch when you have a decent bowling attack to back it up. I hope WACA goes back to its past glory and bring in a greentop. Chak De India. I hope they give Laxman one more chance. He is just DUE!!

  • desireuben1 on January 8, 2012, 13:20 GMT

    Drop sehwag, and have dravid open, he is opening anyway two overs later. Sehwag must understand he can not play the way he is and hope to secure his place in team. he must adjust. otherwise just play him in test matches in India. we are missing irfan pathan here, he is a handly bowler who can bat, along with ashwin, India's tail can wag if he is there. In australian condition he would be a great asset to the team. india should slowly phase out seniors, start with laxman and then work through dravid,sachin and sehwag over the period of 8-12 months. dhoni should take the challenge and promote himself ahead to 4-5 position. he can bat well if he is not in pressure

  • TwilightSaga on January 8, 2012, 13:20 GMT

    I am not going to suggest here that whom you select or drop but I want to clear that when we are losing in overseas why our cricket's expert crying only on seniors. Main point is that our players communication is at lowest level. Dhoni who is our captain neither performance nor captaincy is even good in overseas. His average in Test is just 38. He also not motivate to players especially junior players. I want to tell about R. Ashwin he is also poor performer in this tour. Definitely we need Rohit Sharma. Create space and select Rohit Sharma. We are missing the captaincy of Sourav Ganguly especially in overseas. Yet he is our best captain in overseas. I didn't understand why BCCI made dhoni as a captain of Test. Lakshman is also poor performer in last 12 test in overseas.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    Yes, we should play both Virat and Rohit, going by the point that they need more exposure. At the same time, one should remember Laxman's contribution for the team and also his past performances versus Australia. I think this could probably be his last tour of Australia. Either we shouldn't have taken him to Australia or else play him all the games. These former cricketers shouldn't forget the harsh treatment meted out to them by the BCCI. Also Gambhir by scoring 80 on a placid wicket in the second innings can't get away.

  • Shikkoo on January 8, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    Why is only VVS being targetted.....When will the man with 99 centuries waiting to become the 1st to score 100 hundreds contribute to Indian Victory when it matters......I guess sachin shud take a leaf out of Pointing and Kallis...... Drop Sehwag...mark my word he will not score in the remaining 4 innings.....instead...bring in open with Gambhir....let the TRIO still continue.....while Virat makes way for Rohit....Virat has to learn first to conduct himself and learn from these seniors to play overseas......we are a different unit in domestic conditions.....lets us learn to win overseas in the longer version of the game which is the true test....where we have failed to win sure the TRIO will hit back hard at Perth....the weak link is Sehwag...unless he learns to stay for atleast the first 25 overs.... the pressure is going to be on the batting line....

  • Sheela on January 8, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    All new players, specailly bastsmen who cannot afford to make even one mistake, must be given at east 6 consecutive innings to prove their worth. Only such attitude will boost the confidence of new comers. Therefore the clamour to drop Kohli is not the right approch. Also any player who shows no inclination to field must be dropped forthwith whatever be their prowess in other areas.

  • apawar on January 8, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    Go back to the history, VVS has more innings where he took India to victory unlike other 2, Although I do not doubt the genius of Dravid & Sachin, the stick has always came to VVS which is unfair. Virat has to simply earn his place in tests and cant rest on his One-day laurels same as VVS could never rest his test laurels to keep his ODI spot. Rohit should undoubtedly play at Perth but in place of Virat and not VVS. The short-term & long-term does not matter as long as any player is consistently producing runs. Look at Hayden who actually started his best days at age of 34 and went on till 39 and when he retired he was still a batsman any bowler will fear to bowl at. Lets Cricket be played on meritocracy than Age!!

  • Romenevans on January 8, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    LOL, say whatever you want to...nothing will happen. The end result will be what Dhoni thinks (OH! Btw he's not even listening, he's busy enjoying his honeymoon in perth). He will play the same old 11. and be ready for another 4 days of boring cricket, or may be 3 days. Why don't you also recall Sunil Gavaskar, Akash Chopra, Ganguly and Ravi Shastri as well. BEsides they are already in Australia, So visa and tickets are not an issue. ROFL!

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    If by any chance in 2014 or 2016 if these big 3 are replaced, you bet they will lose 10-0 also, no blighter has the technique to play in Australia, England & Safrica. Why is public having such short memory? The Same Sachin won the world cup for India, he was the 2nd highest run getter in the world cup. Where were these youngsters, did anybody even come in top 5 despite their age? It is foolish to talk of the veterans to make way, nobody should make way, earn Ganguly's spot first. It is still lying vacant for over 2 years now, these fools are talking of replacing the 3 Big scorers. There is no substiute to experience. Now there are people who get frustrated when Sachin does not score his 100th 100 & utter rubbish on the maestro. When these youngsters start playing in place of him after some years even a 50 from their bat will be a miracle. God knows what the public will say then? As it is Virat Kohli is yet to score a QUARTER CENTURY ( in 4 innings) Laxman 1 - 60+, Rahul 1 - 60

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Why Drop VVS ?? tell me y VVS ? The people who need to be dropped for poor cricket is Sehwag, and Dhoni Himself.. Dhoni is a limited over player.. He does not belong here.. Rope in openers like Rahane and Mukund ? Why was Mukund Dropped ? He played well in England ? Where is Pujara ? Bring in these guys.. Build a team and prepare on bouncy wickets before you go on a tour !! Drop Ishant.. Give opp to Mithun or anyone else.. Get Rohit in.. The team may not win, wat is atleast needed is a fight ..

  • cric828 on January 8, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    I think everyone have own view,As my view need different test captain. Also give chance to Pujara and Jadeja. Definitely India need to play more Tests than T20 b/c all this players mind need to develop for play long game. This is all about IPL. you see the country like England,Australia, S Africa they play better cricket than India.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    virat shud be replaced by rohit not vvs

  • VAS4 on January 8, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    Totally agree with Maninder Singh! If we are to lose, then why not lose with younger players? Absolutely no point in losing with the ageing greats. No one can forget what VVS has done for us, but it is the nature's rule, that we must give way to our youngsters. Wonder why Manjrekar is conveniently forgeting Sehwag's bad run. To respect Laxman for the past, let him play in the coming 2 tests too. Virat is the one to be rested or removed and give Rohit Sharma a chance. Pujara should be considered for next overseas tour instead of Laxman. I totally disagree with dropping Aswin.

  • lovinit on January 8, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    I feel that this Indian team is lacking needle and getting under the skins of the Australians - this is where the like the of Harbajan has been missed. He may not of takan many wickets in Australia but his by -play itself caused greif amongst the Aussies. Indians by nature are docile. What they need now is soemone with needle and talent - Ganguly and Harby was Indias best at this and they achieved winning tests abroad and but at least drawing test series against the heavyweights. I think they should persist with the current team with the next text. Then bring chnages the last test. VVS laxman is my hero but I do feel that you have to justify your place at 37 years of age. I feel his days are numbered and will be his last series in Indian colours.

  • Bala74 on January 8, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    I cant believe any of these so called experts. Just before the series they were talking up India's chances of winning the series in Australia. Did they not consider the 'lack of backfoot play' or 'lack of patience' while making their predictions? Furthermore, not one expert has even made an oblique point about IPL and how it is affecting our test performance. If you give these experts money and a mic they wouldn't think twice before selling their own mother. (Rant over!) I do agree that Laxman is over the hill. To be quite honest, only a handful of Indian cricketers look remotely athletic. Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman have a bit of a gut, while Ashwin perhaps has never seen the inside of a gym.

  • on January 8, 2012, 13:04 GMT


  • on January 8, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Since when was Maninder Singh an 'off spinner'?!

  • blitzNM on January 8, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    After the ashes lost a year ago, chappel said to ponting "jump before u r forced".This same goes to VVS now. Instead of spoiling own stats by underperfoming give chances to other youngters. I agree with manjrekar n rohit shud be brought in the middle. kohli should be tested @ no.3 if openers take out 15 ovrs or so.tendulkar should open as he looks in good touch. gambhir should be kept away from new ball and get form in the middle-order. Maybe Dhoni should cum ahed of gambhir as 2nd new ball w ill be after 80 ovrs (Hopefully ind lasts that much) and gambhir might handle the 2nd new ball. Dhoni against new ball is pathetic so bat @ no.6 n gambhir @ 7.

  • RSBali on January 8, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    Now Indians should realise what Greg Chappell was planning for....future by phasing out senior citizens. Why are fans complaining now.

  • kempie on January 8, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    Out of all the comments,Manjrekar's comment stands tall above all.Not only Laxman,the selectors should also think of Gambhir & Ishant's place in the team.Indian cricket is going through a terrible phase and needs bold decisions.

  • spinkingKK on January 8, 2012, 13:00 GMT

    Judging by what is happening, Sehwag is the one who doesn't play properly. VVS just hit form in Sydney second innings. Dravid doesn't seems to get settled at all. He can get bowled at any time. But, I agree that Rohit should come in and Kohli has got something about him which makes us think that he will come good as well. VVS is my second most favorite batsmen of all time. However, when he doesn't perform I can't argue that he shouldn't be dropped. Having said that, when Dravid gone through some horrid time for nearly two years, nobody cared to drop him. So, in that respect, VVS should get some leniency too. VVS's innings in Perth was pivotal in India's win in 2007. That should also go in favor of him retaining his place. My 11 for Perth (in batting order) is: 1.Ashwin 2.Gambhir 3.VVS.Laxman 4.Tendulkar 5.R.Sharma 6.R.Dravid 7.Sehwag 8.Dhoni 9.U.Yadav 10.Zaheer 11.Ishant Sharma.

  • RandyOZ on January 8, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    Dropping VVS is obviously. He hasn't performed in ages and Rohit Sharma looks like an absolute gun with solid technique.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    I feel we should replace Kohli with a pace bowler...So we will have 3 pace bowlers and one spinner same as Aussie squad...

  • Advin on January 8, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    What makes it most difficult for Indian selectors is that none of the seniors voluntarily call it a day.They do not have the guts to go to a Dravid or a Tendulkar and suggest they think of retirement.Gavaskar is the only Indian legend that has quit before being ousted.Contrast that with the likes of McGrath,Warne,Waugh,Gilchrist,etc who all quit while their team was on top and when they still had a couple of years of good cricket left.Therefore Australia will soon transition into a very good team while India will take years to recover from the retirements of these greats.

  • BattingAllrounder on January 8, 2012, 12:55 GMT

    My team for the 3rd Test, Border Gavaskar Trophy 2011-'12 to be played @ WACA

    Ajinkya Rahane, Gautam Gambhir (Capt.), Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, Rahul Dravid, Wriddhiman Saha, Ravichandran Ashwin, Irfan Pathan, Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav........

    Even if this team fails miserably like the Indiian team did in the first two test matches, what worse can happen????

  • tanweeralam on January 8, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    Loose with young talent... you might end of getting a tendulkar or a dravid or a vvs from them who can take you 5-10 more years. If you loose with 40 year olds.. they will retire (hopefully) in 2-3 years loosing and you will be back to square one.

  • saileshd on January 8, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    I cant understand why VVS becomes the scapegoat every time the team or himself fails. He is facing the same thing from his career starting, let him play his game. Class players do rise from ashes. Live example is RICKY PONTING. Did our people forget LAXMAN is the only guy who played and saved the entire 2nd test in southafrica recently. He is only playing the test format and let him do his job and others, see the batting failures of other players. Age doesn't matter guys as long as a player plays his game well. WAIT FOR THE ANSWER IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF TESTS.....

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    Typical stupid comments by the so called "experts" of cricket. Every time the batting fails they blame Laxman. People have such a short term memory. They keep forgetting that he is one of the few good batsmen left in the team.

    Don't even get me started on the cribs about Dravid. He was the highest scorer of 2011 and just because he failed 2 matches people are calling for his axing.

    All these so called experiments should have been done in the WI series. Now the "Cricket Experts" need to shut their mouths and let the team play their best.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    i think india should give a chance to dinesh karthik replaying vss.rohit should replaying virat.because this two cricketer[virat and vss] are not in good form.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    My suggestion for the batting order at Perth 1. Rahul Dravid, 2. Viru, 3. VVS, 4. Sachin, 5. Rohit, 6.Virat, 7. Dhoni, 8. R. Ashwin, 9. Zaheer, 10. Ishant, 11. Yadav. It is also time for using Sachin and Viru as bowlers for 10-12 overs a day. The first two tests have been team failures at many levels. It is not going to be easy to fix it.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    My point of view we have good batting order, we can't blame our batsman because this is happen for all teams when they play overseas. I suggest Ishant sharma has to replaced by Mithun or other seamer. rohit is playing well, he need a chance so better vvs/gautam has to take rest for 3rd test.

  • smartrah on January 8, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Why is no one talking about Rahane?? He is in the squad right? our openers have miserably failed in this series. He should be able to take any of Gambhir's and Sehwag's spot in the playing 11. What long term are we talking about? The decisions have to be taken just to be able to win the next two tests.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:44 GMT

    Manjrekr,Ravi Shastri,Gaekwad,, Vengsarkar among others talk of Batting composittion and tehnique which can only end in a DRAW. To Win takes 20 wickets. Concentrate on this ALONE for the time being.

  • objective_cricfan on January 8, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    Rahane should replace Gambhir and Rohit should step in in place of VVS. If the Perth wicket is really what it is projected then play 4 seamers. Sehwag was getting more drift and turn than Ashwin and can fill in as spinner. It was stupid not to take Irfan. He could have also added to the batting strength along with his improved seam bowling. Ashwin might have to be kept for his batting only and deny us the chance of playing the fourth seamers!!!

  • Abedin11 on January 8, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    Why always laxman have to be scapegoat all the time. He has done so much for india. He tried his best in the second innings. The past players have a dislike of laxman all the time, why is that?

  • Crikoot on January 8, 2012, 12:40 GMT

    Few ideas for our team

    1. Change of coach 2. Change of Selectors 3. Change of Captain 4. Oldies should resign voluntarily instead of playing for their own records 5. Accept DRS 6. Have a new BCCI chief with successful cricketing background 7. Make some fast wickets at home and play regularly 8. Invite Bangladesh and play with younger players like them

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    Yes in India batsmen are judged only by number of centuries they had scored. This is the case of Gundappa Viswanath not being considered in same way as Gavaskar. He has won more matches during his period with some crucial 70s 80s 90s. Same is the case of VVS. He has to play with fragile lower order batsmen most of his career. But he contributed valuable runs with them in many matches that India won But they are not centuries.Only his 281 played at No.3 still remains in all our memory. Because it is a hundred. Lately 70s Vs Australia at Mohali, 96 odd runs in 2nd innings at Durban on bowlers friendly pitches are easily forget by many. Yes Laxman is completely out of touch in Australia, and he has give way for the youngster Rohit Sharma, who could not able to establish his place since his some 30s 60s during his last Australia tour in ODIs. Let us see how good he is in Tests and against quality attackIt hurts me a lot Laxman will be sacked like Vishy. He should announce his retiremen

  • getgopi on January 8, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    Running Between Wickets

    Anyone remember Ponting's slide to the crease to get his ton? The last time Gambhir slid, he just about made it. The Indian "seniors" might slide but I won't be surprised if they still ended up well short of the crease. When VVS was batting with Tendulkar in the second innings of the second test, I couldn't help but wonder how many of the singles and doubles they ran could have been converted to doubles and triples respectively had younger players like Kohli and Raina been at the crease.


    'nuff said!

    Backfoot Play

    The seniors didn't get better at backfoot play by playing only in Indian conditions, did they? The more the younger players get to play in foreign conditions, the better they can get at backfoot play.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    90 % of these letters are regarding the batsman and batting order. Remember tests are WON when you GET 20 wickets. THATS the MAIN problem. Strengthening batting only gets you a DRAW. Wake up Guys

  • Ray24 on January 8, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    Laxman is a good player, compared to be Gambhir or Sehwag in tests. It should be these two who deserved to be dropped as they cannot play in foreign conditions or against quality bowling. India needs to blood in youngsters over the next 2-3 years, or else it will be a very difficult time for the new comers.

  • nimal183 on January 8, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    One thing for sure... India is going to get hammered 4-0 !!! No matter how strong is the team they never do well outside India... ..

  • anexpat on January 8, 2012, 12:31 GMT

    There are other candidates who should be dropped before VVS. What has Sehwag done for quite sometimes now. Are we waitig for a miracle which may never happen. His one day 200 doesn't merit him a place in the test team. Failure of the opening pair has been responsible for India's bad show recently and right from the beginning the following batsmen become circumspect. Against a potent fast attack, on fast bouncy tracks like Austrailia's, it then becomes difficult to put a big score either playing first or chasing. There is another aspect which seemes to have been ignored while everyone is talking about India'a abject batting. Whereas Austailians bowlers have been able to bowl out India twice with ease our bowlers were able to take only four wickets at the cost of giving over 600 runs. If Austailia was not allowed to put on such a huge score in the first place the batting would have felt less pressure.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    Yes, there are many people in the team who perform worse than Laxman but we must stick to our norms, ignore the numbers and drop him - who has often stood up while others have fallen around him, who has had a bad patch better than Rahul's bad patch during which Rahul was supported continuously.

  • alltimegreat on January 8, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    We all know that our Indian team is not good at bouncy and fast tracks...and the results show what we are lacking in...more than the players its the BCCI to be blamed..they don't prepare fast tracks and our fast bowlers are looked as jokers in indian pitches..why blame the players now...the same treatment would have been met with Aus team if they were touring now to India...BCCI never bothered to look into the disastrous tour of England ..citing as a small issue...if they don't wake up...well they need not to to the current schedule...Indians will be touring outside for close to 2 years from now...

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    where is Pujara?

    We are heading to the bottom.

    Of that there is no doubt.

    The problems are:-

    1. Aging

    2. Record obsessed Superstars

    3. Coaching which is out of sync


    My prescription is: -

    1. Retire all players over 33

    That includes Sehwag

    2. Have an Indian coach

    3. Give long term contracts to youngsters

    4. Do not allow Ads and IPL for the test team

    My team: -


    1. DHONI

    2. GAMBHIR


    4. KOHLI

    5. PUJARA


    7. RAHANE




    11. VIDYUT


    1. ASHWIN

    2. AARON

    3. ISHANT

    4. YADAV


    6. R.P. SINGH


    8. OJHA


    10. CHAWLA


  • on January 8, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    Droping VVS is not a good option... already they proved... they should realise that new players are coming so we should retire and make the way to new players...

  • PiyushD on January 8, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    Just wondering what pressure Rohit must be under, everyone expecting so much from this guy in debut at perth, but then if he excel he is sure to stay here for long.I do not feel Virat has Test cricket temprament, he has been given enf chances from series in WI till here.

  • Scheduler on January 8, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    I agree @biophysicist for Sehwag. His average overseas has been very poor and agree with @ganes.v why do we actually need a player who just comes good once in 10 innings . Sehwag is just a flat pitch slogger better than afridi.Sehwag shud have been dropped after england for playing such irresponsibly and i dont understand how can the selectors select him as vice captain when he is not ready to take the responsibility.Kohli too is over rated. Mr. Shastri is too confused on what to say like he said in the commentary the other day " Kohli has the ability to put away the loose balls and Hilfenhaus has the ability to take wickets". Mr. Shastri u need to work on refreshing, u have become too repetitive.I hope i see fresh faces for ODI series CHUCK OUT SEHWAG,KOHLI,ISHANT,MITHUN

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    drop Sehwag, Gambhir and Laxman and introduce new players. India already lost 2 matches very badly so why not gamble new players.

  • BattingAllrounder on January 8, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    Gentlemen !!! individual averages of players will not give a clear idea of their recent form. Why then speak about such statistics when u want to axe someone. For example a batsman with 15000 runs and an average of 56.4 can play 4 test matches, score ducks in each of the 8 innings and still end up with an average of 54.7 approximately. Statistics should not be considered if the player is not consistent.

    The present Australian side does not rely on big names for their victory. Their bowlers are doing their job and their batsmen too don't care to improve their averages or to equal or better any records of the game. They just play good cricket with all their heart.

  • keecha on January 8, 2012, 12:16 GMT

    The trick in getting the most from Laxman is to make him bat at no.6, just before Dhoni. When he comes in, there should just be one recognized batsman left. That simply buts him in the responsible mode and there is no stopping him. Don't know when Dhoni will realize this simple idea..

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:16 GMT

    virat kohli is a top order batsman. he can ease the pressure off frmthe middle order. he should not be wasted by sending him at middle order. send him at no3. our middle order is pretty weak . so lower down the pos of dravid and sachin. dravid at no 4 and sachin at no 5. Rohit is perfect at no 6 as we seen him during WI series. he s good absorber of pressure and can bat with bowlers too. Dhoni should change his batting style. maximum he can face 60 to 80 balls. he should try to score max runs within those deliveries as gilchrist did fr australia

  • moko58 on January 8, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    For a country of 1.2 million we should have 3 teams - one for each format. And when Srikanth sends a team overseas he should have a backup person for every member. More all rounders like Jadeja.

  • Griffindoors on January 8, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    This is completely ridiculous. dropping VVS for rohit? dropping a legend who averages better than anyone against aussies in the current squad? dropping a legend who came to play his last series in the country where people adore him more than some of the home players? give virat's place to rohit.virat has a long way to go. if at all he loses interest in the game if he is dropped now, then he should quit cricket and find something else. and sehwag is a big headache for india. replace him.instead of waiting him to score a double hundred in 10 innings, bring a player who can score atleast 6 fifties in 10 innings. ojha has to be played at any cost. left hand spinners have better record in aus than right handers. remove ishant and replace him by sudeep or bring irfan who is now swinging the ball as he has done in 2003-04

  • JesseV on January 8, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    Laxman is still a class act. The two openers have been poor the whole last year. As much as I like them, Rahane seems really talented. And Rohit will get his shot soon. In the next 2 years Rahane Rohit Pujara Virat and Raina along with one of the Tiwarys will be mainstays in the test team.

  • Dheeman00 on January 8, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    To some extent I agree with the Mr. Chetan Chauhan. The Indian Captain has to refill his thinking tank or else his place in the team will be in doubt too. Dhoni is out of form for a very long time and lacks potential to be a quality Test player. Moreover why everyone is targeting Laxman? I know he is out of form for a long time but he had saved India from many dramatic situations. Even the Master Sachin failed to deliver in those situations. But Dravid is living up to his potential as The Great Wall and tackling every situation with great perfection. Anyway I just hope India can come back in the remaining two Tests.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    Swap laxman with rohit...

  • jrm1186 on January 8, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    Look who's talking? Sanjay Manjeraker, one of the worst batsmen of all times....I still remember how he used to be afaid of Alan Donald, scoring 7 runs of 40 balls in ODI...And he's talking about Laxman, one of the most quality batsmen India have ever had and undoubtedly the best 4th inning player!! Drop Dhoni, Viru and Ashwin and play Sharma, Irfan Pathan and Ojha.... India need a 5th bowler and an all rounder and Pathan is a perfect combo for that!!

  • svel on January 8, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    one match ashwin did not perform as well as expected... so suddenly everyone are telling tat ashwin should be replaced... this is absurd...

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    Sanjay Manjrekar may be right,but at the expense of LAXMAN................ Instead Gambhir should be dropped and let RAHUL open with SEHWAG as he was highly successful in ENGLAND on GREEN pitches and quality ENGLISH attack. Don't know how GAMBHIR even manages into 11 ....????????????? Let KOHLI play the entire series and make sure he DOES'NT BELONG THERE.!!!!!

  • Abhiramb on January 8, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    It is hard to believe that ex-players want VVS to be axed! Some Australian ex-players also asked for Ponting and Hussey to be dropped and their mouths have been firmly shut by those two players. I hope VVS gets a chance and is able to shut these people up ..for the time being...because they will open their mouth again when it comes to VVS. God knows what else VVS needs to do to deserve respect!

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    rohit sharma should be in this team. and why the heck ashwin is so overrated?. he does well in chennai, in ipl or shall i say in INDIA ONLY!. i think harbhajan singh should back in this team. Lets face it guys!... india's problem are bowlers, if bowlers take wickets, these batsmen can play better than that. im sure. rohail from pakistan :P

  • Haleos on January 8, 2012, 12:05 GMT

    @Mansoor Kayani - ATleast we are tigers at home. Your team looses consistently at home and is average overseas.

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    I have already suggested Rohit for the aging VVS. Next pt., Is the 3rd single, taking its toll on India's aging middle order? How fit r the foll. Sehwag, Gambhir & VVS? Having to run 3 & in some cases 4 can take its toll if u r not as fit as u aught to. These guys r taking a longer time to get their footwork going, in many cases, they r beaten for pace. Sachin is in great form, move him to 3, move Kolhi to 4, Dravid 5, & Rohit 6. The key to India's success, is the 1st 3 batters must cover 30 ovs. The Aussies bowling looks ordinary after 30-35ovs. That's why Ashwin makes runs.

  • jonesy2 on January 8, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    how gambhir has lasted this long is a worrying thing for india. vvs isnt the only one struggling. contrary to what people are saying i think india, like australia have some very good young batsmen that need to start replacing old greats. murali vijay, rohit sharma, virat kohli, tiwary etc all should be given lots of time to find their feet at test level.

  • Raingod2k6 on January 8, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    "It's not the critic that counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena."

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    Rahane. Highest FC average for any player in the world right now.

  • amitjoshig on January 8, 2012, 12:00 GMT

    why Rahul Dravid is called 'THE WALL' when he never won the test match for India except Kolkatta 2001 & Adledie 2003. He always fails (90% bowled cheaply) in 2nd innings (when pressure really builds)......Same with Tendulkar (he gets out at the brink of winning and India loose) but he is already famous (criticized) for not winning matches for India, so people don't hope from his side. But Dravid is overrated and is called one of the best batsman of Test Cricket....why ? Just for his brillant Ist innings scores ? tell me any occasion when Indian need to chase over 200+ target in test match or have to bat for 2 days (after followon or after having trailed by 200 + runs) to save the many times Dravid Scored Century.........not even once except 2001 kolkatta and adledie 2003......yeah he is master in Ist inning....he scored century in 2nd inning also but only when India had lead (in first inning)


  • getgopi on January 8, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    "Indian cricket must be bold and be prepared to lose with younger players"

    I fully agree. If it's time, it's time.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    IMHO, India are missing a trick by not getting bold young Ravindra Jadeja more involved in these big series. Just recently the kid took on an England attack on a bouncy green top while the rest of the middle order was made to look like monkeys. A few 3 dayers on this tour would've done him no harm. Let's hope he keeps developing as he may be just what India require in the long run in tough, alien conditions.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    Is it? You will still drop VVS despite he has scored 60+ runs in last inning. Had the same runs scored by Virat or Rohit (if he had been played) after many failures, these so called Cricket experts started talking that He has class, he got his form back and blah blah blah.. How many times VVS and Dravid need to keep proving that they are test specialist and how many times they need to continuous score runs. One or twice they failed, every one start talking against them. Why not axe Gambhir, Virat, Dhoni, Sehwag, Ashwin and Ishant Sharma. What they have done in this series.

    Player with 20-30 test matches are providing their "expert comments on players who has played more than 100 tests. "This guy Chetan Chauhan is saying that ask Dravid and Sehwag to play down so u can understand his expertise abt Test cricket. We did not ask you to provide your comments in VVS. These guys have always been biased against Seniors. Remember Ganguly's case. Pls keep ur comments with yourself. Thanks.

  • arvindcc on January 8, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    vvs laxman should not b replaced.. according to me virat shud b replaced an rohit shud called & ashwin shud b replaced either by mithun or ojha..

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    Why Chetan Chauhan is talking about Pujara. Yes, Pujara is one of the best prospects for future. But, now Dhoni has to field players from the squad with him. Keeping future in mind both Virat and Rohit should play. We will also get a comaprative assessment between the two. Te friendly competition may also spur better performance from both. VVS is the only candidate who can be dropped to create the needed space.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    It seems current Indian management are not alone when it comes to talking without a semblance of sensibility..Every past so called great (if u consider sanjay manjrekar a great..A person who has called for Sachin's retirement in 2007??) is taking the easy option out by blaming laxman for India's performance overseas..Is laxman responsible for england scoring 700 in under two days at edgbaston? Did VVS come up with a master strategy that allowed the aussie tail-enders to score close to 200 runs in the first test? Come on people..Its the shambolic performance of bowlers and the timid tactics followed by Dhoni that are responsible for the situation India find themselves in..And we all know that nobody has the guts to criticize Dhoni or the evergreen brightest Indian prospect Ishanth Sharma..On a parting note, who was the man of the match in the last two significant overseas Indian victories at Durban and SSC? (Clue: It is not Sachin,not Dhoni,not any so-called youngster).

  • rza89 on January 8, 2012, 11:42 GMT

    Bring Arjun Tendulkar and Rohan Gavaskar, the Indian team has become a bollywood film, sadly a tragic one, where fairy tales are not fulfilled. People must let go of the seniors, I also find it absolutely shocking that Sachin has only won 2 major series away from home (minus minnows ofc) (Eng2007 and NZ2009), in 22 years of cricket. The World cup was the peak for most of the team, and thats where it should have ended for team MS Dhoni.

  • Vpx23 on January 8, 2012, 11:40 GMT


  • crickprof on January 8, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    i fully support sanjay manjrekar

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    it is best cricket decision in current scenario, Virat and Rohit both deserve chance, Laxman is not a long term prospect any more

  • Ganes.V on January 8, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Liked the comment from Chetan Chauhan. I would recommend the same. Pujara should be played. Rohit Sharma has the patience to stay as well. as for me- Why should Sehwag be persisted with? A once in a 20 innings wonder so better he plays every 10th test for India even if he flops we can take that! Gambhir and Rahane to open; Rohit next; Sachin; Kohli/ Dravid; Pujara; Dhoni; followed by Aswin and three bowlers.. In due course Sachin be replaced by Yuvi/ Raina and Dravid will also go So Rohit Raina Yuvi and Pujara becomes full timers in Indian team. And hopefully over the next few years we will find replacements for Dhoni, Yuvi, Raina as well..

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    If Ricky Ponting can drop down from 3 to 4, no harm in Rahul Dravid and Virat Kohli swapping places.

  • varma_pawan on January 8, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    i didnt understand ex- cricketers are behind laxman only. I remind that india had failed in bowling also. why are they no concerned. Australians ar e able to take 20 wickets but not we???? Plz suggest...

  • Biophysicist on January 8, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    While it is true that VVS has not done very well of late, his average since the beginning of 2011 is still decent (40.04 from 13 matches and 25 innings). His record is far better than those of Sehwag (27.86 from 8 tests, 15 innings) and Gambhir (32.52 from 9 tests and 17 innings). I do not understand whenever the team loses Laxman becomes the scapegoat! If Australia could keep Ponting (who also crossed 37 recently) with an average of 27.48 from the 16 tests preceding the boxing day test, just because they thought that he is a top class batsman (mind you, he did not score a single century during these 16 tests), why shouldn't we continue with Laxman for at least the reminder of the series, especially when he has scored at an average of 54.43 in 21 tests and 37 innings. If need be drop Sehwag or Gambhir and ask Dravid to open and let Laxman play at no. 3. He is too good a player to be dropped after failing in a couple of tests.

  • ANJAN28 on January 8, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Who is Sanjay Manjerekar? Can any one tell me about his records in international cricketing arena?The answer would be VERY VERY ORDINARY. Ans now with a microphone in hand he is commenting on the removal of VVS Laxman who is one of the greats of modern day cricket. He is such a joke.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    1) gambhir is pathetic when the ball moves a bit.. scores 50, 60 on flat track against good attack.. needs to improve his technique solidly. 2) sehwag is irresponsible.. he can hit 6 fours in 6 consecutive deliveries.. at the same time gives 6 chances to opposition.. very very immature. 3) sachin - may be one more year. 4) dravid - same.. one more year 5) laxman - remove him right now.. enough. 6) dhoni - attack attack attack attack.. don't be defensive.. batting or field setting.. you have to attack.. u r bad in defensive mood. 7) kohli - don't drop this guy.. he is our future 8) ashwin - same.. our future 9) Ishant - worst bowler.. he is playing in australia and pitching the ball in south africa..terrible line and length.. some problem in bowling action. need a good bowling coach. 10) Yadav - our future.. need some experience 11) Zaheer - 2 more years.. shud take care of his fitness. 12) Rohit - never be lazy.. just attack.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:30 GMT

    India back to its old ways. Unbeatable at home and struggling away. Zimbabwe and Bangladesh will give this team a run for its money. Keep Tendulkar until he pulls up stumps himself. Dravid has been on the decline since 2007, Laxman hasn't been performing and is like his old self before 2000. Give Kohli another run and his test career is all but over, too much of a one day specialist. The captaincy is affecting Dhoni's batting and wicket keeping. He had a great start as captain and will lose his second overseas series 4-0. Bring back Irfan Pathan for his all around abilities, let him take Kohli's place.

  • rocky2u on January 8, 2012, 11:30 GMT

    VVS not played well so far in this series..but he was a great batsmen.He had a good record aganist AUS.Virat was played very poor. Rohit can replace his place.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:30 GMT

    the tigers of home :)

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    Yet again the axe is on Laxman... please show some respect to this great hero who has served the team so far.

  • om.pani on January 8, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    After retirment of Dravid,vvs,srt, what will happen to team india.can they score at least 150 in overseas condition.

  • Nutcutlet on January 8, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    All these comments from Indian gurus about the batting - and I'm sure that they have some valid points (the Indian contingent will argue endlessly about the batting order and composition - just wait for the avalanche here!), but it is bowlers who win test matches: batsmen ensure that sides don't lose, so I find these comments revealing about the Indian mindset, even among acknowledged sages! I suspect that Indian bowlers have to show some batting ability to be considered for selection and here again I would take issue with this thinking. Now, I suspect that even his best friend would not think of Pragyan Ojha as a batsman, but I was mighty impressed with his performances for Surrey last season; he has the ability to slow the scoring (always a good method of snaring a batsman into rashness) and he is a wicket-taker. Ashwin bats, but I suspect India would rather have wickets from him! Leave the runscoring to the top 6/ 7 - that's what they are there for! 8,9,10 & 11 get 20 wks not 4!

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    VVS has played well in second innings but virat kohli who was expecting to score good in the aus, doesn't play well. I think Rohit Sharma is to be picked in the place of virat kohli because VVS still has the special ability to play well against this aus attack

  • SamRoy on January 8, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    Only Maninder Singh has hit the nail on the head. If India has to lose its better to lose with youngsters. There is absolutely no point in losing with great players who are past their prime. If India lose in Perth drop Sachin, Dravid and Laxman from the team for Adelaide. Show no mercy. I have saying this for a long time. It's time for youngsters to face the music.

  • charlie2921972 on January 8, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Drop either Sehwag / Gambhir Dravid, Laxman, Dhoni and Ishant that played in Sydney replace them with Rahane, Rohit, Saha, Mithun, Ojha. My XI would be Rahane, either Sehwag/Gambhir, Rohit, Tendulkar, Kohli, Ashwin Saha, Zaheer, Mithun, Umesh and Ojha.

  • c3vzn on January 8, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    Sehwag lower down? What in the world Chauhan thinking? I would bring in Rahane and R Sharma in for Laxman and Kohli. They both average above 60 on flat tracks in India so it is time to throw them in the deep end see if they can live up to their First Class credentials.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    may be the above points are relevant at this point but the matter of fact is that all teams overseas are at sea so why blame india only?

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    The chickens are now coming home for india. They were never a true number one team anyway. They never looked like one and never played like one. No bowling and suspect batting against short and the swinging ball; no one really expected them to last more than the year or two they did at the top.

    India is a team with big averages from their batsman but look closely and you will see that they never make runs at the same time; its one batsman who gets a good series following but average performances and it alternates like that.

    Laxman has to go ...Dravid next and let Sachin choose when he wants to go.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    i think manjrekar`s forgotten that vvs is the guy who can absorb the maximum pressure and still bat like a dream. go on man, put him under pressure;he`ll respond like the champion he truly is. the man who could drive the aussies crazy when THEY were at the top of their game deserves more respect than this. vvs papered over the deficiencies when the top order failed. sehwag deserves to go, as does sachin; his milestone has truly weighed the team down. vvs, go on and play a dream innings, and shut these critics up;their barbs are just the motivation you need. we are always with you. i am with you always.

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    how can u compare class of laxman with unproven test players like rohit n virat...???? virat is performing good in one dayers but it doesnt means that he will perform in tests...robin singh, ajay jadeja, bevan....these wer good in one dayers but poor in tests...acc to me pujara and manoj tiwari are much more deserving players for tests in comparison to kohli n rohit....

  • on January 8, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    Virat may not be the future we expect but he a better fielder than VVS & deserves to continue. Its time VVS realises his batting alone is not enough any more. Knowing Dravid, he might call it a day after this series if he fails again in next two tests. We'll not need to phase out the 3 seniors who are too intelligent, sincere and committed to be told anything. If youngsters have not yet learnt by the presence of seniors so far, its our bad luck. Sehwag must show he is not reckless, onus is now on him. He cannot behave like Chhote Nawaab of an Indian Cricket that is currently in doldrums. His protege Gambhir has shown he is responsible that very admirably. Its very unfair to make Sehwag the captain unless he changes his attitude towards team and situations.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    India should select the players based on their performance not on their past glory. How many of them would play in Ranji Trophy during off season in indian cricket calender. Too much dependency on one player is always bad, as cricket is a team game and no one man(Sachin, Dravid or Laxman) can win you all the games. I strongly believe that the structure of indian cricket and administration is going in a wrong way (to make the most money possible out of every possible option) with the arrival of IPL.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    The result of the sereis 4-0.......Like eng sereies selecter will not make any chnage in the side. They will continue with the same team in future. FAKE NUMBER ONE SIDE IN PAST.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    I think India should drop Gautam Gambhir and move Rahul dravid up to opener, then give either Rohit Sharma or Virat Kohli the chance to bat at number three! VVS is proven champion and teach more youngsters than Gambir can!

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    Well - instead of chopping midway in the series, Laxman should be persisted with.. and the rest of the year, there should be a transition phase where Rohit, Pujara etc get starts. Anyway all of 2012 is in the subcontinent and they will learn the tricks in the flat tracks and then can start playing abroad once they have some game under their belt. You dont want a situation in 2013 before a start of an important overseas tour and the middle order have less than 10-15 tests between them. As much as i love them , Sach/Lax/Dravid need to understand that.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    i totally agree with sanjay manjrekar but i dont think it will happen as dhoni won't do that as he is not brave enough to that

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    Well said Anshuman and Chetan,,,,i totally agree with both of you...

  • hattima on January 8, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    Why is everyone always after VVS? Indin batting has failed collectively, so it is very unfair to single out him for the failure. He has got some runs in Sydney, I am sure a batsman of his experience and callibre will do much better in Perth. If anything, Indian bowlers need more help from their fielders and captain. India need a dedicated first slip, Dravid's reflexes has slowed down and he is dropping important catches there every match. In Sydney India tried Sachin there but he was never a good slip fielder. I feel India would do better in Perth opening with Rahane and Gambhir, dropping Sehwag down in the order, resting Kohli and Ashwin and getting another pacer in. I don't know how good a fielder Rahane is but he is young and so might have better reflexes that Rahul in the slips.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    i would pick rahane, he has continuously been in form in last 4 domestic seasons and drop gambhir and koli to get rohit in, also ojha in for ashwin and any other fast bowler for ishant

  • Nish8738 on January 8, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    sanjay manjerakar makes a very good point here. Inida needs to give virat another chance and also play rohit sharma. To drop ashwin will be unfair because he is the 2nd highest run getter for india in this series. gambhir secured his place in the side by that 83 he scored but he is young so he can stay but laxman needs to go. he can't field can't run can't play fast bowling now and can't catch. Sehwag also needs to fire. play rohit at 5 and kohli at 6 and stil have ashwin at 7 so we can have 7 inform batsmen. I would have dropped ishant but there is no better bowler to replace him with. Dhoni needs to attack more as a captain!!

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Remove a batsman and include a pace bowler. I would say our bowling is weaker than our batting...

  • baskar_guha on January 8, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    The Indian obsession with batting continues whether it be experts or columnists or both. For the past decade, our batting has hidden our weak and insipid bowling. Outside of Kumble and Kapil Dev, can anyone name one all-time great bowler (top 20 if not top 10) that India has produced. No wonder India don't win matches abroad where pitches are not tailor-made for turn and more turn. In the current series, Zaheer is the only strike bowler India have and he is at the tail end of his career given his fitness issues. The scary thing is that India don't have the next strike bowler in India - spinner or pacer. Who is India's Philander, Cummins, Pattinson, Broad? No one knows. Who is India's next Kumble, India's Swann? No one knows. What is worse is that no one really cares about anyone other than batsmen. Until Indian cricket cures itself of its toxic obsession with batting, India will continue to flounder in the lower-middle of test rankings.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    "i will strongly oppose this idiotic suggestions from the senior players and the cricket experts".Instead of dropping laxman you can drop virat and try,because laxman had an ability to change the with tail enders.......!

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    I agree wid all the other comments..But i donot have any idea with Chetan Chauhan's Comment...Play Sehwag lower down???? i dont know who the other specialized opener is n wat number will sehwag play at..I guess as a pinch hitter ...

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    wrong choice.............drop dhoni.make shewag to lead India........dhoni's overall average is 33 ,compared to vvs 46.get a new wicket keeper

  • Rags57 on January 8, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    Interesting idea by Chetan Chauhan - having Sehwag bat lower down the order. This is especially useful on overseas tours where the bounce and swing with the new ball has often been his undoing. His success as an opener in one of out of four or five innings is not enough. He can be destructive in the middle order especially against the old ball and the spinners. May be we should drop Laxman and Kohli and bring in Rahane and Rohit with Sehwag in the middle order. Sehwag at 5 and Rohit at 6 lends tremendous power in the middle order.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    i would not think this is a good move because r sharma will not succeed in waca pitch let them seniors play entire series once the series is over & make changes in upcoming home series

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    This actually makes sense....Team should not be selected on seniority basis....But i am confident Laxman will be in playing 11 in perth. Younger players means less experience and more likely to loose but with opposition will feel the heat of young players when they will field and bowl.. This will low opposition's confidence.

  • Oz_Sap on January 8, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    I totally agree with Maninder singh's comments...makes gr8 sense to me - think longterm & play youngsters and give them time to learn the ropes.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    how many centuries have manjerekar and gaekwad have scored in australia .virat kohli has played 5 test overseas and his average is just 13 even against the weak west indies team he was useless.he is a odi player he should play more test matches in india.laxman still has the class of sachin and dravid.for perth test remove kohli,ashwin and bring in rohit and ojha if possible find a place for irfan pathan

  • Haleos on January 8, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    atlast people have started talking about VVS. He has been highly overrated. Needs constant help from the tailenders and people praise him as a hero. What worse can happen with youngsters. We are already losing. Send VVS home and play with youngsters. Dravid has maybe 1-2 years more but phase him out gradually. Rest him for a match or 2 every series. Again what worse could happen. Even with him in such sublime form we lost in Eng and now in Aus.

  • kiranvg on January 8, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    Most experts believe the frenetic hitting in Twenty20 and one-day internationals have muddled their skills for the real examination of Test cricket.

    Indian batting legend Sunil Gavaskar feels it has increased the bat-speed of young batsmen and they don't follow the method of letting the ball come to the bat and play with soft hands.

    The conditions back home actually work against the development of these batsmen. The pitches in the Ranji Trophy are featherbed tracks, 80 per cent of international cricket is played at home and there are riches galore from ODIs and IPL. Gavaskars, Dravids, Tendulkars, Gangullys were all playing the county since they did have time. But since IPL came is there any single player in the county team. That is why India played well in Australia and England before 2008 mind you this was before IPL came to Existence.

  • kiranvg on January 8, 2012, 10:29 GMT

    When the IPL started it became a very big hit. It was just because all the great players Saurav, Dravid, Tendulkar, Harbajan, Kumble , Shaun Pollock, Warne, Mc grath, Sehwag and so on all greats played that match. Had there been no great players in it ,had there been only fresher players definitely no body would have watched it. After four years see the fate of Inain team after IPL became a big hit . The Big players are not playing the big Game(Test cricket ) the way they shoud play. Most of their failing has been due to their poor ability on the backfoot against bouncing and seaming deliveries. On dull sub-continental pitches, it's easy for them to plonk their front foot and hit through the line.

    On foreign pitches, it bounces more than the knee height and they don't have the technical skills to play horizontal shots. The result -- they are no better than sitting ducks.

  • cricketmaniagola on January 8, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    Shameful n Sad to call for VVs Head...he shoild continue and let Dravid retire...Sachin should also call it a point in continuing his carrer after world cup...He shd have called it quit on a high after the world cup glory...Dravis sdhould have quit after England series...We shd make VVs captain of the team..he has served the team at no5 and 6 for his best days in cricket while dravid Sachin made headlines at the top of the order....really disgraceful....Aussies have played better cricket must be acknowledged...INdian openers failed putting 2 much pressure on Middlke order must be addressed...why cant u drop viru..see his overseas record...nothing as compared to VVs..if u can support sachin n Dravid in a lean patch why cant VVs...Sad ..experts ...r u the experts..Zaheer is on wane..did anyone question it...Ishant is not performing? ..why cant u drop him...really bamboozled by demands to drop VVS..

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  • cricketmaniagola on January 8, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    Shameful n Sad to call for VVs Head...he shoild continue and let Dravid retire...Sachin should also call it a point in continuing his carrer after world cup...He shd have called it quit on a high after the world cup glory...Dravis sdhould have quit after England series...We shd make VVs captain of the team..he has served the team at no5 and 6 for his best days in cricket while dravid Sachin made headlines at the top of the order....really disgraceful....Aussies have played better cricket must be acknowledged...INdian openers failed putting 2 much pressure on Middlke order must be addressed...why cant u drop viru..see his overseas record...nothing as compared to VVs..if u can support sachin n Dravid in a lean patch why cant VVs...Sad ..experts ...r u the experts..Zaheer is on wane..did anyone question it...Ishant is not performing? ..why cant u drop him...really bamboozled by demands to drop VVS..

  • kiranvg on January 8, 2012, 10:29 GMT

    When the IPL started it became a very big hit. It was just because all the great players Saurav, Dravid, Tendulkar, Harbajan, Kumble , Shaun Pollock, Warne, Mc grath, Sehwag and so on all greats played that match. Had there been no great players in it ,had there been only fresher players definitely no body would have watched it. After four years see the fate of Inain team after IPL became a big hit . The Big players are not playing the big Game(Test cricket ) the way they shoud play. Most of their failing has been due to their poor ability on the backfoot against bouncing and seaming deliveries. On dull sub-continental pitches, it's easy for them to plonk their front foot and hit through the line.

    On foreign pitches, it bounces more than the knee height and they don't have the technical skills to play horizontal shots. The result -- they are no better than sitting ducks.

  • kiranvg on January 8, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    Most experts believe the frenetic hitting in Twenty20 and one-day internationals have muddled their skills for the real examination of Test cricket.

    Indian batting legend Sunil Gavaskar feels it has increased the bat-speed of young batsmen and they don't follow the method of letting the ball come to the bat and play with soft hands.

    The conditions back home actually work against the development of these batsmen. The pitches in the Ranji Trophy are featherbed tracks, 80 per cent of international cricket is played at home and there are riches galore from ODIs and IPL. Gavaskars, Dravids, Tendulkars, Gangullys were all playing the county since they did have time. But since IPL came is there any single player in the county team. That is why India played well in Australia and England before 2008 mind you this was before IPL came to Existence.

  • Haleos on January 8, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    atlast people have started talking about VVS. He has been highly overrated. Needs constant help from the tailenders and people praise him as a hero. What worse can happen with youngsters. We are already losing. Send VVS home and play with youngsters. Dravid has maybe 1-2 years more but phase him out gradually. Rest him for a match or 2 every series. Again what worse could happen. Even with him in such sublime form we lost in Eng and now in Aus.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    how many centuries have manjerekar and gaekwad have scored in australia .virat kohli has played 5 test overseas and his average is just 13 even against the weak west indies team he was useless.he is a odi player he should play more test matches in india.laxman still has the class of sachin and dravid.for perth test remove kohli,ashwin and bring in rohit and ojha if possible find a place for irfan pathan

  • Oz_Sap on January 8, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    I totally agree with Maninder singh's comments...makes gr8 sense to me - think longterm & play youngsters and give them time to learn the ropes.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    This actually makes sense....Team should not be selected on seniority basis....But i am confident Laxman will be in playing 11 in perth. Younger players means less experience and more likely to loose but with opposition will feel the heat of young players when they will field and bowl.. This will low opposition's confidence.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    i would not think this is a good move because r sharma will not succeed in waca pitch let them seniors play entire series once the series is over & make changes in upcoming home series

  • Rags57 on January 8, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    Interesting idea by Chetan Chauhan - having Sehwag bat lower down the order. This is especially useful on overseas tours where the bounce and swing with the new ball has often been his undoing. His success as an opener in one of out of four or five innings is not enough. He can be destructive in the middle order especially against the old ball and the spinners. May be we should drop Laxman and Kohli and bring in Rahane and Rohit with Sehwag in the middle order. Sehwag at 5 and Rohit at 6 lends tremendous power in the middle order.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    wrong choice.............drop dhoni.make shewag to lead India........dhoni's overall average is 33 ,compared to vvs 46.get a new wicket keeper