February 23, 2014

Time for Dhoni to go

The team needs a more proactive leader who challenges his bowlers to get him wickets
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Lately there has been much discussion about the merit of some Test captains and no one has ignited more strident debate over his credentials than MS Dhoni.

Dhoni is a brilliant captain in the shorter versions of the game, and a master at timing his run to the finishing line as a middle-order batsman. However, as a Test captain he's too reactive and has a tendency to let the game meander along, like an absent-minded professor strolling in the park. His conservatism allows the better players among opposition batsmen too much freedom and too many easy runs. Consequently, big partnerships, like the match-saving one by Brendon McCullum and BJ Watling, build too often.

Dhoni really should have been replaced as Test captain following India's disastrous tours of England and Australia in 2011-12, when his teams displayed little fight in losing eight matches on the trot. When a captain starts to hinder his team, he needs to be replaced. During that horror patch, Dhoni was unable to inspire his team and looked like a skipper just going through the motions. There's no doubt that a captain - even the best of them - can stay on too long, to the point where he loses his team.

Dhoni did bounce back when he orchestrated a convincing whitewash of Australia at home. There's no question he's a better captain under familiar conditions. He's at his best with spinners operating regularly, whereas when conditions are more in tune with seamers he struggles.

In fairness to the selectors, not replacing Dhoni following the disaster in Australia was understandable, as a number of senior players retired and the alternatives were few.

A suitable alternative is now available in Virat Kohli. He has leadership experience as captain of Indian youth teams and, more importantly, he's now the right age and has matured into a top-class batsman. Even more importantly, he has shown his mettle overseas by scoring runs in difficult arenas like the WACA and the Bullring.

This is the sort of inspiration India need to boost their overseas record. However, what they need even more is a proactive captain who can get the best out of his bowlers when playing in unfamiliar conditions.

Good captains evaluate their assets, then go out and utilise them wisely. Michael Clarke is a perfect example. It's an over-simplification to say he's lucky to have Mitchell Johnson as a spearhead; the bowler is also fortunate to have a captain who enhances his chances of snaring victims. Johnson wouldn't be as successful under the conservative leadership styles of Dhoni, Graeme Smith or Alastair Cook.

Kohli is an aggressive batsman but that doesn't automatically mean he'll captain in the same manner. Ricky Ponting was an aggressive strokemaker nicknamed "Punter", but as captain he didn't take his gambling instincts on to the field.

Kohli needs to be brave as an India captain. Instead of placing defensive fields for Ishant Sharma's wayward deliveries he has to challenge him by deploying men designed to aid the bowler, as long as he maintains line and length. If Ishant can't oblige him, he has to find another bowler who can.

This is where Clarke excels. He expects his bowlers to seek wickets rather than concentrate on saving runs. Eventually this becomes second nature and once bowlers are "expecting" wickets, they tend to be more successful because they are bowling aggressively rather than defensively.

While Dhoni's tendency to rely on batsmen making mistakes and getting themselves out works brilliantly in the shorter forms of the game, the ploy is often exposed as flawed when gritty opponents like McCullum mount a counterattack in Test matches.

Dhoni's latest injury may be fortuitous. It gives the selectors a chance to evaluate Kohli's leadership credentials in the one-day arena, and if he's successful, they should appoint him Test captain.

Indian selectors rarely take the aggressive option. They prefer to allow senior players to decide their own future. Now is a good time to adopt a proactive approach and hope it rubs off on a new captain.

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell is now a cricket commentator for Channel 9, and a columnist

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  • on February 23, 2014, 7:41 GMT

    Dhoni is not blessed with bowlers like Steyn, Johnson and the likes which obviously leads him to become defensive. The problem is over defensiveness on Dhoni's part which means India will keep on losing in non familiar conditions considering the bowling set will remain the same. It might be a little early to give captaincy to Virat, but Dhoni as a batsman also does not inspire any confidence in overseas test $ as such i don't see him for too long in the Test team. Definitely Virat is the only option remaining then as a captain. Another problem with Dhoni is has adverseness to try out new players. That's why players like Ashwin,Jadeja, Ishant, Rohit keep on playing matches after matches, while Mishra, Yadav and the likes have to wait till an eternity to get a chance. Virat might change this. Backing players is good but should be only to an extent & not forever. Karthik, i believe is a good option to replace Dhoni, somehow he keeps missing his chances, hopefully Asia cup will be differen

  • cnksnk on February 23, 2014, 3:24 GMT

    While there is merit in this argument, the prime issue is the bowling or lack of it. While India lost both the recent series, atleast 2 of the tests, the first against SA and the second against NZ were theirs to not win, and they did just that. When the bowlers cannot take 20 wickets, we can change as many captains as we want. Also Mac was dropped by Kholi and did he make the Indians pay. So as much as the Captain needs to be aggressive and make things happen on the field he also needs to be aware of the cards he has been dealt with. With bowlers like Ishant and an aging Zak, could any one have done any better. Jury is out on this. My sense is that MS will captain all 3 forms till the World Cup and then probably retire from tests and concentrate in the shorter formats of the game where he excels

  • on March 4, 2014, 4:25 GMT

    dhoni miss you asiacup

  • TheOnlyEmperor on February 27, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Look at the young guns of Indian cricket. Rayudu collided with Shami while taking a simple skier and this is not the first time! As Gavaskar commented in exasperation "Don't they teach these people to say MINE?". Varun went through a brain freeze as he mindlessly bowled and stared helplessly as the balls were despatched to the boundary! Rohit Sharma was too lazy to bend and dive forward to take an early slip catch. Shoddy fielding! Ashwin went off for runs as usual... giving away boundaries generously as usual. If you need to give away 279 runs to Bangladesh, can you imagine how many runs the same bowling attack would give away to Aus/SA/Eng/NZ...easily 350+! Little wonder that India got hammered by the likes of SA and NZ in the ODIs recently! Now, how is Dhoni to blame for all this? It doesn't matter who bangs his head against this steel wall of crass incompetence, Dhoni or Kohli, the result will be the same, be it Tests, ODIs or T20s!

  • on February 26, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    12-0 as is stands, is utter embarrassing for a so-called big gun. In all honesty, the team is over hyped beyond proportions and their batsmen can mostly play in the confomts of a flat track.

    Though i agree, that Kohli could make a better captain as he's an aggressive type and also a determined lad.

  • jay57870 on February 26, 2014, 4:37 GMT

    Ian - Memory loss? Clarke the perfect example of a good captain? Really? He has just 1 win in 11 Tests overseas. It's the worst performance away by Aussies in 3 decades. Compare with SA: they have not lost an away series in the past 8 years! Surely Smith deserves credit for this achievement, so much ahead of all other teams. That's why SA is No 1 in Tests in the world. Clarke is overrated. Chappelli as usual is off the mark, showing signs of senility. That's why his criticism is absurd. Ian as usual is playing the Age card: a young Kohli to replace the older Dhoni. No, not now. Cannot blame Dhoni for India's dismal performance. Its bowlers fail to take 20 wkts; it's agile, young close-in fielders cannot take crucial catches to win matches. It's the team's defence that's failed, not Dhoni's defensiveness. Chappell fails again to read the situation correctly. Age is catching up with him. Time to go fishing, Ian!!

  • on February 25, 2014, 17:53 GMT

    Why Ausies loose every time they visited India, is it becoz captiancy is poor like Steve Waugh and Ponting? Why everybody talk about Indians performance only out side the subcontinent? Is Pakisthan doing good in outside? Or Srilanka? No it is becoz sub continent cricketers groomed in low bounce good bating surfaces. Its shame to hear from experienced cricketer like you. Why Dhoni leave him Cricket pundits.....

  • Temuzin on February 25, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    cricpov: Do you know how many matches Yadav and Varun have played? Do you really know their statistics? Varun is a great prospect but very injury prone and that has hampered his progress But even though in what ever matches they have played look at their statistics and tell us who they can replace in current Indian team and off course they will not be able to replace any body in any other teams.

  • AravindVatsal82 on February 25, 2014, 12:21 GMT

    Chappel brother,is not completely wright as the records speaks for itself the no of wins dhoni has in the test matches placed india in the No 1 position,i agree dhoni as batsmen contribution is less in oversees conditions because of unkanny style of batting which is adjusted in suitable conditions,it is evident during SA & NZ series bowling came back good @ times better than the home side,only concern is to fill in for zak & 3rd front line bowler specifically to support shami who is looking like genuine pace bowler comparable to foreign player with his line & length,who can lead pace attack.as far as leader material one can only look up for kholi for test match captain & continue dhoni for other format which he can still make impact,ability to cotrol the game with 2015 wc is not too far...

  • on February 25, 2014, 9:08 GMT

    A bad decision , indians wont find a caption like Dhoni ... Respect

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:41 GMT

    Dhoni is not blessed with bowlers like Steyn, Johnson and the likes which obviously leads him to become defensive. The problem is over defensiveness on Dhoni's part which means India will keep on losing in non familiar conditions considering the bowling set will remain the same. It might be a little early to give captaincy to Virat, but Dhoni as a batsman also does not inspire any confidence in overseas test $ as such i don't see him for too long in the Test team. Definitely Virat is the only option remaining then as a captain. Another problem with Dhoni is has adverseness to try out new players. That's why players like Ashwin,Jadeja, Ishant, Rohit keep on playing matches after matches, while Mishra, Yadav and the likes have to wait till an eternity to get a chance. Virat might change this. Backing players is good but should be only to an extent & not forever. Karthik, i believe is a good option to replace Dhoni, somehow he keeps missing his chances, hopefully Asia cup will be differen

  • cnksnk on February 23, 2014, 3:24 GMT

    While there is merit in this argument, the prime issue is the bowling or lack of it. While India lost both the recent series, atleast 2 of the tests, the first against SA and the second against NZ were theirs to not win, and they did just that. When the bowlers cannot take 20 wickets, we can change as many captains as we want. Also Mac was dropped by Kholi and did he make the Indians pay. So as much as the Captain needs to be aggressive and make things happen on the field he also needs to be aware of the cards he has been dealt with. With bowlers like Ishant and an aging Zak, could any one have done any better. Jury is out on this. My sense is that MS will captain all 3 forms till the World Cup and then probably retire from tests and concentrate in the shorter formats of the game where he excels

  • on March 4, 2014, 4:25 GMT

    dhoni miss you asiacup

  • TheOnlyEmperor on February 27, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Look at the young guns of Indian cricket. Rayudu collided with Shami while taking a simple skier and this is not the first time! As Gavaskar commented in exasperation "Don't they teach these people to say MINE?". Varun went through a brain freeze as he mindlessly bowled and stared helplessly as the balls were despatched to the boundary! Rohit Sharma was too lazy to bend and dive forward to take an early slip catch. Shoddy fielding! Ashwin went off for runs as usual... giving away boundaries generously as usual. If you need to give away 279 runs to Bangladesh, can you imagine how many runs the same bowling attack would give away to Aus/SA/Eng/NZ...easily 350+! Little wonder that India got hammered by the likes of SA and NZ in the ODIs recently! Now, how is Dhoni to blame for all this? It doesn't matter who bangs his head against this steel wall of crass incompetence, Dhoni or Kohli, the result will be the same, be it Tests, ODIs or T20s!

  • on February 26, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    12-0 as is stands, is utter embarrassing for a so-called big gun. In all honesty, the team is over hyped beyond proportions and their batsmen can mostly play in the confomts of a flat track.

    Though i agree, that Kohli could make a better captain as he's an aggressive type and also a determined lad.

  • jay57870 on February 26, 2014, 4:37 GMT

    Ian - Memory loss? Clarke the perfect example of a good captain? Really? He has just 1 win in 11 Tests overseas. It's the worst performance away by Aussies in 3 decades. Compare with SA: they have not lost an away series in the past 8 years! Surely Smith deserves credit for this achievement, so much ahead of all other teams. That's why SA is No 1 in Tests in the world. Clarke is overrated. Chappelli as usual is off the mark, showing signs of senility. That's why his criticism is absurd. Ian as usual is playing the Age card: a young Kohli to replace the older Dhoni. No, not now. Cannot blame Dhoni for India's dismal performance. Its bowlers fail to take 20 wkts; it's agile, young close-in fielders cannot take crucial catches to win matches. It's the team's defence that's failed, not Dhoni's defensiveness. Chappell fails again to read the situation correctly. Age is catching up with him. Time to go fishing, Ian!!

  • on February 25, 2014, 17:53 GMT

    Why Ausies loose every time they visited India, is it becoz captiancy is poor like Steve Waugh and Ponting? Why everybody talk about Indians performance only out side the subcontinent? Is Pakisthan doing good in outside? Or Srilanka? No it is becoz sub continent cricketers groomed in low bounce good bating surfaces. Its shame to hear from experienced cricketer like you. Why Dhoni leave him Cricket pundits.....

  • Temuzin on February 25, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    cricpov: Do you know how many matches Yadav and Varun have played? Do you really know their statistics? Varun is a great prospect but very injury prone and that has hampered his progress But even though in what ever matches they have played look at their statistics and tell us who they can replace in current Indian team and off course they will not be able to replace any body in any other teams.

  • AravindVatsal82 on February 25, 2014, 12:21 GMT

    Chappel brother,is not completely wright as the records speaks for itself the no of wins dhoni has in the test matches placed india in the No 1 position,i agree dhoni as batsmen contribution is less in oversees conditions because of unkanny style of batting which is adjusted in suitable conditions,it is evident during SA & NZ series bowling came back good @ times better than the home side,only concern is to fill in for zak & 3rd front line bowler specifically to support shami who is looking like genuine pace bowler comparable to foreign player with his line & length,who can lead pace attack.as far as leader material one can only look up for kholi for test match captain & continue dhoni for other format which he can still make impact,ability to cotrol the game with 2015 wc is not too far...

  • on February 25, 2014, 9:08 GMT

    A bad decision , indians wont find a caption like Dhoni ... Respect

  • GlobalCricketLover on February 25, 2014, 7:14 GMT

    It's an insult to Smith to be named alongside of Dhoni and Cook. Those later two are miles ahead (or below?) of anyone in terms of being defensive.

  • cricketsubh on February 25, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    kohli making 70 in perth that india lose badly perth wicket is one of the flattest wicket in the australia making 70 when match already over i do not think people remember 70 runs in perth. people remember only wins yes kohli is a gud young player but i do not think he is ready as a test captain at the moment he still learning how to play test cricket so let him play and learn his young just 25 he can become captain age of 27 ,28 played some 50 ,60 tests .

  • srinivasulu.adiraju on February 25, 2014, 6:56 GMT

    Where is Mr.Ian now? He specifically commented on Dhoni the other day. Where is he now? How come Mr.Clarke and Team lost this test after winning first test and with such a huge momentum for them after winning 5-0 against England? I am a avid fan of Dhoni. Dhoni has done many things to Indian Team that others only dream of during night and day time. Being aggressive doesn't mean shouting all nonsense at others or provoking others to do some thing nonsense. He does his job with highest distinction. I agree there are few series to forgot but Ian Sir, please consider what he has achieved and will be able to do next. I am very disappointed at his comments and demand a open apology from him regarding his comments on Dhoni. Dhoni! Even when the world is divided into two, Please do remember that I will be on your side, may be only you and me are left on other side.

  • AH_USA on February 25, 2014, 1:48 GMT

    In India's loss to ENG and AUS in the not so distant past, it became quite evident that Dhoni was an average captain. In both of those series, he would stand behind the wicket and just watch. He did not offer any inspiration to his team to try and rally them to take a stand against the drubbing. A "cool" captain is one who finds a way to get out of a difficult situation and not one who takes his gloves off and bowls a few overs. Even in ODIs, I have hardly ever seen him (WC 2011 final was an exception) coming up the order when the top order has failed. It is hard to say if this behavior is part of his personality or if this is the best can can think of in difficult situations. Kohli does not seem like a captain material but only time will tell.

  • on February 25, 2014, 1:42 GMT

    Rohit is a better choice than Virat and he has proved during his captaincy stint with Mumbai Indians that he does rise to the occasion and take charge when given the responsibility.

  • on February 25, 2014, 0:54 GMT

    If this would happen than downfall of india begans. Dhoni is the best captain india can ever have, mark my words.

  • Raginggbull on February 24, 2014, 22:12 GMT

    I don't know how these seasoned cricketers are defying the common sense or are we missing something. The extreme opinions are good to read discuss and kept it aside and looking for another basher on Dhoni from Monga and list of opinion makers. Its very clear that Dhoni missed few opportunities in Test arena. We all knew Indian bowling standards barring Zak and Shami at times. Ishant can be work-horse and burst in some inspiring short spells. But all knew how the bowling lacked teeth and criticize Dhoni for this is really not worthy. If Virat is captaining the test side we can't induct new bowlers overnight and even we may see a odd win followed by same indisciplined bowling in further tests. So these guys will bash Virat and making him losing his form and confidence. Lets get straight, There is no obvious replacement for Dhoni NOW. With some tuning in captaincy he can lead the side till the world cup and give the baton to next one. Lets not wash away with the author extreme opinions.

  • TimeKiller on February 24, 2014, 21:53 GMT

    Dhoni's captaincy and his selection of the final playing 11 in the team has been so bad that the current Indian test team will be lucky to win a 5-day match against the current Ranji/Irani Trophy champion team on a seaming wicket either within India or outside.

  • cricpov on February 24, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    Some are saying most international captains will lose with the bowlers we have. Most captains would not accept superflops like Ishant in their side at all. Shami is Ok but may not find favor with other captains either.

    If you have access to bowlers that are bowling 145 + regularly, that is amongst the fastest anywhere on earth. India captain has access to Varun and Yadav but chooses to have them carry drinks for the last 2 years.

    Any other international captain would have ensured that special training was given and these fast bowlers inducted into the team immediately to provide their services in tests.

    As an India supporter I am sick of even reading Ishant's name on India team list. Look forward to the day when it is Yadav from one end and Varun from the other with other bowlers like Pankaj Singh thrown into the mix. If we still lose tests that is OK at least we are playing with the best/fastest talent we have unlike today.

  • on February 24, 2014, 21:05 GMT

    now time to go I think hes tired je needs rest

  • TRAM on February 24, 2014, 20:52 GMT

    Aggressiveness should start from selectors. And that is not there.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on February 24, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    Dhoni is a hopeless Test player and Captain. Belongs in razzle dazzle of IPL.

  • rcmaiden on February 24, 2014, 20:06 GMT

    Ppl say that hes too defensive. When u have a 9-2 offside-legside field, its only fair for the captain to expect his bowlers to bowl a probing line in the offisde and not offer juicy deliveries on the pads, which has always been the case with india. Unfortunately, our bowlers have jus not been able to maintain a steady line and length due to which dhoni is forced to play defensively. One thing that I can say for sure is that even steve waugh cannot win you test matches with this current set of bowlers. If you can find one captain who can, then I can agree that the time has come for Dhoni to step down as the test captain.

  • rcmaiden on February 24, 2014, 20:06 GMT

    There are 2 things to consider 1.Replacement for dhoni-there is no one who can replace dhoni in tests as captain.the entire team minus dhoni and zak are relatively new and inexperienced to handle captaincy.captaincy is not something that is forced upon someone because of negative results.it has to be progressive.agreed that kohli is the backup captain in odi's but his success in odi's cannot guarantee the same results in tests.tests and odi are 2 different ball games.kohli is in the form of his life.Making him test captain is gonna add more pressure to him and can hamper his batting.U wanna add pressure to the only consistently performing player in the team?Not a wise move in my opinion. 2. Bowlers-for those who've been closely following india matches will be well aware that india currently possess the worst set of bowlers in the interational arena.For those who believe its the captain who inspires the bowlers,there's only so much that a captain can do, as far as inspiring goes. contd

  • on February 24, 2014, 20:04 GMT

    Ms dhoni is the best captain in his era

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 19:54 GMT

    It seems some of the fans have not bowled 5-10 overs continuously and hence dont know hwo tiring it is for the fast bowlers to keep bowling from one end. It is therefore imperative for fast bowlers to take wickets in those 5-7 overs or else on batting paradises they will be punished heavily. It is bowlers like Ravindra jadeja who come to take burden of containing batsmen so that fast bowlers may have a breather and a bit rest but if on their return they dont get another wicket then team is doomed. India lost because of the inability of fast bowlers to take wickets added by sloppy fielding by Rohit, Kohli and Viajy. No where it was Dhoni's fault.

  • on February 24, 2014, 19:48 GMT

    Having a winning ratio of 55.34% buys time for Mr.Dhoni. The success of palyers like McCollum is more a reflection of his skill rather than the absence of a trait within Mr.Dhoni. I believe that the injury is fortuitous and Mr.Kohli's winning ways(7-1) and the upcoming Asia cup will pave the way for either his confirmation some day as a captain. The concern for taking a batsman like Virat and making him a captain will be runs...Can he balance the two ably? India currently at #2 in the rankings gives the decision makers a bit of rope to decide. Salud!

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 19:47 GMT

    Al_Bundy1 : as an experienced poster on these threads, I expected better from you. Now in your opinion Dhoni should also do talent scouting job? It is the duty of selectors to find talent and bring that in the team. A captain (who is busy playing matches and is often away) is only a part of the selection panel. Captain can chose only from players included in the 15 squad. And all those bowlers in the squad and even those potentials not in the squad are no johnson or Junaid. So your arguments make no sense other than showing your prejudice against Dhoni.

  • Indian_Observer on February 24, 2014, 19:31 GMT

    India's bowling is pretty much work man like. Agreed. It has always been like that but a captain needs to take bold and correct decisions when it really matters. Right from the English tour in 2011 to the recently concluded NZ tour, there were many occasions where India were on top but let slip the advantage primarily because of Dhoni's defensive captaincy. It is there for everyone to see... In the 2nd Test at Wellington, NZ were down and out at 94/5 in the 2nd innings, still 151 runs behind India's 1st innings total...Dhoni continued bowling with Ravendra Jadeja round the wicket for 24 overs which allowed both the kiwi batsmen to settle down and build a partneship.

  • on February 24, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    It is evident from several pro-Dhoni comments that he commands tremendous respect of cricket lovers.But the question is why?Is it because he is a player with extraordiary skills or is it because he is a keeper in the same league as Marsh,Gilly,kirmani etc or is it because he is a batsman with best techniques like Sunny,Dravid etc?I think most would agree that his skills as a captain far outweigh his other facets as far as his popularity and brand value are concerned.The bottomline is Dhoni has been more a captain than a batsman or keeper par excellence. one whom the selectors have trusted for so long.If a number of good shows with limited resources have propelled him to stardom and great riches,a string of bad shows with the same resources will quite naturally bring him disrepute.This is the very law governing the phenomenon of name and fame of intl. sports personalities.Those who are finding fault with such a proposition must be saluted for their in-depth knowledge of cricket.

  • nirveek on February 24, 2014, 18:56 GMT

    Australia s performance on the soil of south africa is also the rerflection how aussie team is now. it happens when all ur senior pros retire. i dont feel dhoni is concerned about his team's batting performance it did not had that poor lusture the he becomes a subject of criticism. ponting also felt when mcgrath, warney, gillespie, lee hayden langer gilly all retired togather .ppl should understnd when giants leave the void don't feel instanteneously.time will get rid off these solution.the Indian team didnt showed the glimpse of poor batting in the soil of africans or the field of kiwis. its the bowling which is not synchronized with indias good performance with batting.removing dhoni is not the solution in my terms

  • Al_Bundy1 on February 24, 2014, 18:44 GMT

    Completely agree. It's time for Dhoni to go, especially from the test team. People say he does not have a bowler like Steyn or Johnson. Has he done anything to find a bowler like Steyn or Johnson? How will he know if there's a good pace bowler out there if he keeps selecting the same old Ishant and Zak? If it wasn't for Faulkner's assault on Ishant, Dhoni would not even have given a chance to Shami.

  • xylo on February 24, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    Previously, before Dhoni, the benchmark for captaincy was Ganguly. Dhoni not just overcame it, but took it to an all new high - T20 WC 50-50WC and #1 ranking in tests, all with a team that carried passengers. Now with Sachin finally gone, Indian cricket has a team that only has performers. While I agree that Dhoni has been not up to the mark in tests, a replacement is going to be under intense scrutiny. You do not want a top performer like Kohli to lose his batting form because of captaincy, for that would be a downward spiral. For Kohli, the right way would be to pick on Dhoni's brains during and after every match, and be ready at the end of WC-2015. If I have judged Dhoni right, he will retire right after the 2015 WC.

  • SLMaster on February 24, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    As outsider, I still think Dhoni is best for India. Kholi doesn't have it. All 4: captaincy, team-selection, batting, and bowling should comprise a win. So, captaincy has less than 25% impact on winning or losing.

  • FormerMiner on February 24, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    In this essay, one could replace Dhoni with Michael Clarke at the end of the Northern Ashes (back to back blow-outs in India and England) and Alistair Cook at the end of the Southern Ashes and still make the same argument. I would be very-very careful dismissing Dhoni . No Cricket captain has won as much as Dhoni. Arguments about Dhoni being good in the shorter version and not in the longer versions are just that - hypotheses. A bad captain is a bad captain and his poor choices will follow. The greatest testament to Dhoni's ability as a leader is when the playing field is level - such as the IPL. He still shines. The system of national sides playing each other is fraught with imbalance, especially so in the longer version. Hence we witness long domination of certain sides (Australia and West Indies). I will keep that debate for another day though.

    If ever the 5 day version is given a level playing field, like the IPL - my foremost choice to captain my side will be MS Dhoni!

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 18:05 GMT

    Those blaming Dhoni are very naive.With a very poor bowling resources, no captain has ever been very successful. Not even Brearley. All captains who looked good have one thing in common, they are blessed with match winning bowlers. Case in point is Waugh who had McGrath and Shane warne. Recent case is Clarke. He lost miserably in India 4-0 in test and 3-2 ODIs. His team was in shambles and he was at a breaking point. Some said he is a very poor captain. But Johnson's recent devastating form has made him look an excellent captain. remember it is same Clarke who was screaming at his players when Dhoni advised him screaming wont help. Now with just one bowler has decisively changed entire out look of the captain and team. Give Dhoni one steyn or Johnson and you will see what a fantastic captain he is.

  • BnH1985Fan on February 24, 2014, 17:20 GMT

    I think those blaming poor bowling are missing a key point. Yes, good players make a captain's job easy. But the captain becomes more important when he has to make do with mediocre resources. And that's where Dhoni has failed. An Indian captain with even half the acumen of Mike Brearley would produce a much better record on the road than has Dhoni.

    Good teams are unbeatable at home, but GREAT teams are ones that can beat opponents on the road. Until India can produce captains that can do so they'll be nothing more than home turf bullies.

  • on February 24, 2014, 16:33 GMT

    I have a solution for Indian cricket, pay extra to all test playing nations so they can play at home with familiar conditions. This way they will not loose that many matches. On a serious note I think it will be a bad decision for India to replace Dhoni with Kholi, I think his performance is going to affect due to a lot of pressure to win matches. India will be better served with a bowler as a captain. As a Pakistani fan I am enjoying the situation of Indian cricket :)

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 16:25 GMT

    Chandra S Yangalasetty: Very well said. All cricket knowledgeable people understand that except sectarian and one eyed one. A few anti-Dhoni fans are trying to put all blames on Dhoni and putting real issue under the carpet. The real issue is India lacks any type of bowler who can take 20 wickets. India doesn't have good fast bowlers nor it has good spinners. BCCI should try to do search, find them groom them and train them to replace current stock. Give dhoni one Johnson or Steyn and see how much aggressive he can be.

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    A few fans and experts commenting on Dhoni blaming non selection of bench players with assumptions that if dhoni has selected Mishra and yadav etc. India might have won the ODI and test series. They are so naive and cant realize that these replacement have been tried before and failed. And if they are not impressing coach and captain in the nets how can they win games in real match? There are absurd assumptions that its Dhoni's fault, when in truth, you select all 11 bowlers available currently in the team, they still will be unable to take 20 wickets on unfriendly pitches any where in the world. All of them 11 of them. Thats reality and India seriously needs to think of that rather than orchestrating a campaign about oust Dhoni.

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 16:13 GMT

    Clements Ethel Enoch: Totally agree with you. Every team , now a days, is lion at home. People should take note o f it. I guess Chappel got emboldened by one test win of Australia in SA and has started thinking about australian invincibility any where. He forgot his own team was white washed 4-0 by the same Dhoni not long ago. Now SA has came back and put Australians in their place in second test vindicating teams only winning at home. But its only India and Dhoni is getting blamed unfairly due to politics and sectarian fans/media trying to impose some unworthy players in the team. They see Dhoni as an impediment for substandard players like Binni, Mishra, Karthick, Tiwari etc. At the end it will be India's loss and Asia cup, even if is played in the subcontinent, may prove that.

  • on February 24, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    A captain is as good as his team. You can be a ultra-aggressive captain and keep 4 slips , a gully all 90 overs a day, and if your fast bowlers are tooth less, wayward, and bowl at 124-130 kmph, then you can not take wickets and can not win games. Michael clarke is an absolute gem of a captain, winning virtually everything against England and SA. Why on earth did he lose to India 0-5 in India? Because he did not have a good enough team! Same thing applies to India also. Dhoni won 5-0 against mighty(!)Australians and lost 0-2 to SA in SA and 0-1 to NZ. What happens if Dhoni employs more aggressive field placements , say 5 slips, one gully, one legslip etc etc. We lose badly and more quickly. Some like McCallum would score 300 in a day! India lost because (let us face it) India was not good enough that day, and it could have happened no matter who was the captain whether it was Mike Brearly or Ian Chappel. Changing Captains bring change in fortunes, sure it does if players perform!

  • Nampally on February 24, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    Yes Mr. Chappell, "No one has ignited more debate over his credential than Dhoni" because no one has so many losses as a captain over a span of few months than Dhoni. India was swept in ODI's both in SA & NZ + Lost 2 Winnable Test Series. How can you say Dhoni is a brilliant captain in ODI when he lost every ODI in SA/NZ? A poor workman blames his tools for poor Product! Similarly a poor Leader blames his team, failure of batting or poor bowling for the team's failure, thru' excuses. Yet he plays with the same XI repeatedly, ignoring 5 other players in the squad. These are the same bowlers who put India in an unassailable position with opposition down to 26 for 5 to rally up to nearly 190 or 94 for 5 to rally up to 604!Who is Accountable? Even in ODI's India (#1 ICC ranked) got white washed by NZ (#6). Top teams find a way of winning even against Odds! e.g. Canada Women's ICE Hockey team beat USA in Sochi Olympic from 0-2 to 3-2, with <4 min. play left - No excuses- Do Your JOB!

  • on February 24, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    I'm surprised people are defending Dhoni coz India doesn't have a tearaway fast bowler. Whose responsibility it is to invest in pace? If not captain and coach then who? Why hasn't Dhoni included Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron in the scheme of things? They are 145+ bowlers. Dhoni keeps repeating how his bowlers are swing bowlers and don't have pace. They guys who do have pace are not even considered. All these overseas tours India has lost, Ishant & Zaheer played almost all matches. Why doesn't Dhoni play 4 pacers? You very well know every team needs a good 4th fast bowler in these foreign conditions. Pathetic leadership!

  • dibbly_dobbler on February 24, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    I doubt Kohli would be a good captain - He captained RCB in the IPL with the 3 best batsmen in the tournament (himself, De Villiers and Gayle) and they couldnt even make the semis

  • Temuzin on February 24, 2014, 14:57 GMT

    People blaming Dhoni for India's losses are insane. They either are unable to see or conveniently ignoring the fact that India has no johnson, steyn or even Junaid khan in the team. No captain can be ofensive with pygmies bowling for you. All the replacements, Mishra, yadav, ojha, chawla, mohit sharma, vinay kumar, praveen kumar, munaf patel etc have been tried before and have been a failure invoking criticism from fans and experts a like. If you dont have two match winning bowlers I imagine it will be hard for any captain to be offensive in field setting without risking too much for nothing. So unless India/BCCI finds and grooms 2-3 quality bowlers, this story will be repeated and captains will be hired and fired for none of their fault. So changing a captain should not be BCCI's priority, finding 2 good bowlers should be.

  • Nampally on February 24, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    Some guys are born Leaders whilst others have the mantle of Leadership thrust on them. Dhoni belongs to the latter! His knowledge of Cricket game & its etiquette & culture are minimal because he was not exposed to them in his youth. There are many kids who are born in the Cricket culture & grow up discussing them & its winning tactics. Dhoni was a talented batsman from a small village in Jharkhand & one of the best hitters of the ball. It was by accident & circumstances that he became the Captain & his super batting sealed the spot for him. Unfortunately BCCI gladly traded Dhoni's poor captaincy for his excellent batting. India's super top 6 bats helped boost his winning record. So Dhoni had to do little or nothing to win. Now that old guard is gone rebuilding a team is foreign to Dhoni let alone Leadership. India's consistent failures overseas exposed how poor a Captain Dhoni is. Only his own batting talent saves his sanity.IT is an SOS call- India needs a New Captain Right NOW!

  • on February 24, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    There is some merit in the argument that Dhoni doesn't have the bowlers for overseas tests (I'd have thought the selectors ought to look at Yadav and Aaron more often, though). However, I agree with Ian Chappell that Dhoni is not a good test captain, and I think there is a simple reason for it: he doesn't like test cricket (days cricket) very much. By all means keep him for limited overs cricket (where he's good), but let someone else (Kohli has some experience, and is guaranteed a place) take over for tests.

  • on February 24, 2014, 12:59 GMT

    Dhoni is a ODI and T2o Specialist Captain and Test Cricket wicket Keeper and Batsman and is not a Test Captain. Selectors should concentrate on test team build. next oneyear after worldcup MS Dhoni atomaticaly choose his own version of game

  • on February 24, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    I totally agree with what sanjay and siddhu. In my opinion we are playing test matches abroad without any 'side' games, where the players can get them acclimatized for the challenges of that country. The foreigners like chappel brothers always dislike the Asian countries getting on top and bring dissension among players who play in togetherness. all will remember how chappels were dealt appropriately by the likes of gangulys. do not get emotional about defeats. all countries do well in their backyards if you go by the recent results. Despite all the hue and cry about Dhoni and the rest, the fact remains as at date the Indian team occupies the second place in all formats. give time for youngsters to settle down and constitute a winning combination. do not write comments of the vested interests.

  • on February 24, 2014, 12:10 GMT

    Every utility has a shelf life, it is better to change before it perishes/breakdown. MSD is basically a short version species. He doesn't have a weight of first class cricket behind him. The act of drying up the runs perfectly works in the shorter version, accordingly he applies the theory instinctively to the test cricket, since he is not well aware of the art of buying or shopping of the wickets. He has stabilized the team after exit of a few greats players, his job is completed, now some more proactive or ready to learn substitute is required for test captaincy!!!

  • Wacco on February 24, 2014, 11:35 GMT

    Ian is absolutely correct. Dhoni has a defensive mindset. I happen to remeber a test match in the WI, where India never chased a 100-odd runs in the last 2-hrs to win the series 2-0. This is just an example, there are plenty more like this. I cant imagine Clarke doing the same. You have to be street smart to excel in sports. Dhoni is scared to lose thats why he loses more! In 50-over matches, everything is masked as there is no option for draw.

  • Alexk400 on February 24, 2014, 11:05 GMT

    Why do people keep insisting on dhoni as captain when the result is already known on all overseas test matches and even odis. He is cool but bad captain. Do you want to good captain or guy who looks cool when his team loses again and again and he gives one excuse after another nonchalantly. He thinks everyone stupid. For me dhoni passed expiry date. For me you win , you stay. If you can't win then there is no point in continuing. Most indian captain can win in india. The only diffference between dhoni and other captain is that dhoni never show emotion even under pressure and this gives impression of him as best captain. But for me his a luckiest fellow in the universe. His batting is pure slogging , wicket keeping is shoddy. Yet he has intangibles (luck) in abundanece. He survived this long with luck. Because only lucky person will show no emotion because he used no skills except luck to survive. hahaha. That said if there is one skill you wish for , it has to be , be lucky.

  • Alexk400 on February 24, 2014, 10:54 GMT

    Only reason anyone continue with DHONI has to be political reason. I do not see how dhoni managed team going to win overseas hostile atmosphere. His defensive captaincy cost india many test matches already. he can blame bowlers , batsman all he wants , its result that matters. he has nothing to show in overseas. Basically dhoni style of captaincy is not working. Why continue? What for ? WHo is going to benefit ? Definitely not india. I really think people need to keep the emotion out of it and think rationally. If there is no other choice in captaincy then i may agree , i really think kohli has all skills to be leader. yes he is little angry but its good to be angry if it helps you win. For some people anger is bad for their emotional state. I think it helps kohli but i do think he needs to be politically correct in speaking like dhoni does. Captaincy skills wise kohli is 100 times better than dhoni. Be cool when under pressure no one can beat dhoni. he still cool after 12 losses. :)

  • Naresh28 on February 24, 2014, 10:52 GMT

    BCCI want to now review overseas losses. The problem is BCCI - they need to develop fast bowlers and give them the right resources. Dhoni has failed in TESTS and his shorter format record is so much better. The problem is that even if we have good bowlers sitting on the benches we DO NOT KNOW their capabilities because they have not been tried in overseas conditions - we dont have the pitches at home to test them. The experience these bowlers need is in the games they play. And as one fan stated the biggest problem is applying pressure from both ends when bowling.

  • on February 24, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    dhoni is not a best captain.he was a best teams captain.now the players are not in consistance form so we can't win.dhoni didn't do anything as like now. once again I can say he is not a best captain.he is luckiest among all Indian teams captain .that's it

  • on February 24, 2014, 10:03 GMT

    dhoni is dhoni please dont try to create instability indias problem is pace .find two lethal pacers and see the change dhoni is trying to manage his pace attack in thebst ofway if he gets two genuine pace bowlers than he will be right on the top because india hasworld class batters just a solid improvement in fielding and catching needed half catches have to be taken

  • PSSidhu on February 24, 2014, 9:42 GMT

    Mr. Chappell, last week you said South Africa will never rise from their 1st test match defeat against Australia. Need I say more?

  • Coolcapricorn on February 24, 2014, 9:31 GMT

    In any sport, you should be judged on your recent performances & we should not get too sentimental about MSD's tenure as captain, just because we have won a few trophies with him at the helm. We should also not be reverential towards our star players but have the courage to take tough decisions as seen in other countries when things are clearly not working out. MSD's performances as captain in touring outside the subcontinent has been totally shambolic for atleast two years now. Before we even step on the field, the matches are already effectively lost as the wrong bowlers or the wrong bowling composition is chosen as we've also seen in our recent tours to both SA & NZ. We either have one seamer short or one spinner too many in Tests or ODI's - hence we keep on getting drubbed & also throw away winning opportunities! If we do nothing again & bury our heads in the sand, we'll simply have more of the same in our impending tours to England & Australia plus the 2015WC.

  • on February 24, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    Mr Ian Chappell calls Graeme Smith "a conservative captain" I can hardly add to Pranar Kulkarni's excellent earlier response on this statement. The team Smith captains has now been No 1 for close to 20 months. I hate to think how good they would have been with " an attacking" captain. For the record: Mr Chappell record in the 1966/7 series in SA was: 10 innings; 196 runs at 21,78. Highest score: 49. No wonder he is still anti SA. I would also have been if I were him!

  • SanjeevHN on February 24, 2014, 8:39 GMT

    Dhoni is paying with his and especially The former chairman of selector's policies. Just take for example. In the last Test tour to England, he didn't play any of his genuine quick bowlers. It is really ridiculous that someday like Unadkat played test cricket. He is so biased towards slow medium bowlers like vinay kumar, Unadkat, Mohit Sharma, Bhuwanesh Kumar, Praveen kumar, Ishant Sharma. You will never win test matches with slow medium bowlers, I wonder why they are not playing Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron in tes match cricket.

    Everybody knows his fondness towards Suresh Raina, Pragyan Ojha, Piyush Chawla, RP Singh and Jadeja. Still I am thinking why RP Singh played those test matches in England in 2011. He is so biased towards Raina and Jadeja. These guys get so many opportunities and still they failing. Yes I agree Dhoni must be replaced as captain for test match cricket

  • on February 24, 2014, 8:05 GMT

    Kohli did lead the U-19 team to championship glory- and Dhoni definitely needs time off from test captaincy. There seems to be no one else in the side besides Kohli who could be a good replacement for Dhoni.

  • Pranav_Kulkarni on February 24, 2014, 7:47 GMT

    I admire Ian Chappell's views on many cricketing aspects (Definitely lot more than his little brother Guru Greg!). He has always advocated 'Proactive' and 'Attacking' Captainship. That's why he rated Steve Waugh higher than Hansie Cronje. Although it is a valid arguement, not everyone can excel with the same philosophy if the resources are scarce!

    Most of the Indian Captains have been conservative. The overly aggressive captains (Like Bedi or Kapil Dev) have not been highly successful. (Kapil did win the WC but was not a great success as a Test Captain). What works for Australia may not work for others!

    In his article, Chappell has heaped praise on Clarke. But the same guy lost 4-0 in india and 3-0 in England over the last year! Selective Memory indeed! By the same logic, Graeme Smith, who Chappell classified as a conservative skipper has led SA to No 1 Ranking and captained in over 100 tests!

    Whether Kohli will become a great captain, only time will tell! Till then its MSD time!

  • on February 24, 2014, 7:40 GMT

    What? Kohli can inspire the team? Common, if a captain who has won all the trophies in cricket cannot inspire his players, then how and on what basis do you say that a small kid like Kohli can take over the reigns of one of THE most important positions in Indian Cricket and carry the hopes and burdens of a billion people? It will only ruin his game. Will this sort of an underperforming team, if Dhoni can't ,no one can. Please dont post articles just for the sake of doing so, Mr.Chappel. Moreover, from where can India find another bowler? From heaven? they dont have any at the moment apart from a handful. Even these bowlers are not effective if they dont recieve support from the other end. No matter how good you are, in Test Cricket you have to apply pressure from both ends, only then can you pick up wickets.

  • on February 24, 2014, 7:34 GMT

    Why is it that before any international event some Chapple bro has to pick on India and its captain. one of the single handedly knocked us out of 2007 WC and still havent givenup. word Dhoni should be replaced by Clarke in this article . please BCCI do not pay attention and as of to Mr Chapple . people in glass houses dont throw stones at others . Kohli as an eventual ODI captain yes agree . but no changes before WC please . I know how much the aussis will love to see india under transition and getting thrashed in WC .please dont make there wishes true . I mean come on we will sort our own issues . please advice CA .not us . the world champs and champions league trophy winners . hahahah says it all . one seris win in five and you raise your head again . ridiculous .

  • on February 24, 2014, 7:32 GMT

    What are you saying Mr.Chappel? Just check out the resources Dhoni has in his kitty. How the Hell can you expect a captain to place attacking fields for a bowler like Ishant Sharma? You must be completely insane Mr.Chappel. Dont compare Dhoni and Clarke. Clarke has one Johnson. Let Dhoni have just a bowler like Johnson and India will be the World. no 1 by a long way. If India lost this series its NOT because of Dhoni. It was because the team did not perform well. How can you say that Dhoni did not inspire his players? IF the players are so disinterested then not even GOD can inspire them, leave alone Dhoni or Clarke. Why isn't anyone talking about the poor performances of the batsmen or the utterly poor show by our bowlers or the pathetic performances of our fielders? You will understand the difficulties faced by MSD if you step into his shoes. Its very easy to talk from 1000 miles away.

  • FroggyLeigh on February 24, 2014, 7:20 GMT

    How can we trust the opinion of Chappell? This is the same person who last week claimed he saw no way back into the series for SA and has constantly refused to acknowledge Kallis as one of the greatest all-rounders. The man is so blinkered in anything non-Australian, in his defense he could still be suffering from post-traumatic-stress-disorder created by the drubbing in the 70's tour to SA!!!

  • sephotrig on February 24, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    Perhaps it is time for Dhoni to go, but the question is, is Kholi the right player to replace him? From what I have seen of him he is far too hot headed and too emotional to be a captain at the moment, I'm not saying that he couldn't make a good captain in the future, but not at the moment.

  • TheOnlyEmperor on February 24, 2014, 6:40 GMT

    Part 2: Today with almost all Test teams developing a good batting and bowling line-up, the difference in performance that can change the outcome of a match comes from fielding. Indians still drop catches which should be easily taken. For eg. The Indian team dropped a sitter at the boundary at a crucial stage against England in the U-19 Quarter Finals which saw them being knocked out! This is just not on! Ashwin can't run let alone dive. Vijay can't bend let alone dive forward to take catch at slips. Rohit has a short attention span and is too shifty eyed to be standing at slips. Kohli is sooo hyper and intense that the ball pops out of his hands at slips. Shikhar struts around and dives over the ball rather than at the ball! Physical fitness of our players is less than International standards. All these make the difference between a Winning and Losing Team!

  • TheOnlyEmperor on February 24, 2014, 6:03 GMT

    This article seems to forget the elementary fact that a batsman who is in form and batting with an uncluttered mind should not be saddled with distractions like captaincy. India's performance woes come from the fact that several batsmen have displayed inconsistent form ( Vijay, Rohit, Pujara, Shikhar, Dhoni) and the Indian bowlers as a collective unit even worse performance, in not being able to contain runs in the ODIs or take 20 wickets in the Tests. It's the bowling performance which needs to be addressed. The defeats were not because of defensive or unimaginative captaincy. The captain had his hands tied when the bowlers were not only unable to take wickets consistently or polish off the tail, but were found to even stem the run flow. Give Dhoni a team with a bowling attack to take 20 wickets at an economical rate and he'll win all his Test matches. The problems of Indian cricket : Bad bowlers and worse cricketing experts and commentators! The whole lot should be sacked!

  • on February 24, 2014, 5:24 GMT

    After Australia's yesrerday's performance in the 2nd SA Test, wonder if Ian Chappel has anything to add about Clarke's captaincy and his batting also. It also goes on to prove how good Johnson is on tailor made wickets.

  • metlapally on February 24, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    Agreed with the rest(most) of the article - but where did Clarke win his Ashes with his 'spearhead' Johnson recently??!! Biased Mr. Chappell? (familiar conditions vs unfamiliar conditions) And may be unwise transition in your writing - topic of familiar conditions and then talking about the lucky Aussie boy/captain using his assets wisely?

  • on February 24, 2014, 4:36 GMT

    It is time that we stop Dhoni bashing. Captains come and go. There is a lot of cricket left in Dhoni. Teams and players go through bad patches at times. This is why we call the cricket a game of great uncertainities. After all if Bradman Scored a single in his last appearance his average would have been 100.

  • on February 24, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    I guess Ian is right.... lately dhoni has been defensive. But blaming him would not work... Captaining a 11 member team is easy... But a team of 1 billion..... like MSD or other Indian captain's.... now that's a challenge.... Don't write-off dhoni like that.... If possible please publish some articles that gives positive vibes and probably motivate MSD and team.....

  • on February 24, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    What's all this talk about Dhoni doesn't have any big name bowlers. Stephen Fleming had worse attack and still did better than what Dhoni is doing.

  • on February 24, 2014, 4:22 GMT

    Perfect article Mr.Ian, couldn't agree with you more. Dhoni is the least pro-active among current test captains. His body language in test cricket isn't inspiring at all & gives an impression that he's not very interested in this version of the game. As you say, he should have been replaced after the disastrous England tour. But the New Zealand tour is the last straw, he should now be replaced by Kohli as test captain without further delay.

  • on February 24, 2014, 2:57 GMT

    It is Batting more than the Bowling should that be of concern.At least Dravid has no right to criticize MSD. Did he forgot his defensive captaincy in '2007 in England? Also MSD has to go - because he lacks the imagination in adverse conditions and stubbornly makes all thee wrong decisions wrt to team selection, field placing and himself keep dropping those catches in slip cordon, because he would not stand for keeping @ right location.

  • on February 24, 2014, 2:39 GMT

    dhoni is one of great captain and clever. but now he is not injured .

  • jango_moh on February 24, 2014, 2:37 GMT

    i concur with the ppl saying that dhoni's defensive captaincy has set us back... here is what has been happening consistently over the last few years... our bowlers always get some good early breakthroughs and then fail to finish it off.... wich means the bowling is not really that bad... imo its a combination of defensive field placing and tired bowlers.... even recently NZ had 5 proper pacers compared to our 3,,, how effective can 3 bowlers be when the pitch is relatively flat, jadeja was just bowling to make up overs... it was a complete farce... if we had one more fast bowler/fast bowling allrounder who cud've come in and bowled with fresh legs, who knows!!! it was a matter of getting ONE wicket at that stage.....

  • sean_kelly on February 24, 2014, 1:05 GMT

    It's easy to captain, and look like you are proactive, intuitive, etc, etc, that the very biased author bestows on his nations cricket captain. What, exactly, has Clarke achieved outside of the Ashes win against an Eng side that didn't want to be in Aus? Losses, home defeats, away defeats, series defeats.... Losses on top of losses. He has one great bowler. When that bowler doesn't fire, he looks completely at sea, as he was in Port Elizabeth. He's not even astute enough to realize that he was being lead around by the nose for most of this test.

  • Rowayton on February 24, 2014, 0:50 GMT

    Actually, Nandeesh Nandi, I would have thought the one who showed a spinner can open in ODIs was Stephen Fleming of NZ, although there may have been some before him.

  • arnie66 on February 24, 2014, 0:47 GMT

    A Captain is as good as his stats and Dhoni's overseas test stats speak about his performance ! Dhoni's captaincy has been PATHETIC in the overseas tours. In India, the Captain has an active say in selection. If Dhoni keeps asking for non performers like Ishant Sharma and does not try anything different, he deserves the results that he gets ! In the NZ Series, Ishwar Pandey performed well in the Warm up games. However he was not tried in both tests while Ishant is given a long rope. Similarly though Ojha and Pujara have perfomed consistently, niether can find a place in the side (Ojha in tests and Pujara in one dayers). Dhoni keeps sticking with his CSK chamchas like Ashwin, Jadeja, Raina.Though Dhoni has some leadership traits (cool under pressure, trusts his team members), he lacks some core leadership qualities (keeping your team accountable, being fair etc). If things don't work, you need to be open and try new things. Dhoni should be removed as Captain and retained as a player.

  • on February 24, 2014, 0:34 GMT

    Nandeesh Nandi: First of all the article is about MS Dhoni's ineffective TEST captaincy, not the ODI and T20 formats that have over-saturated world cricket, which coincidentally are the only formats that India has ever really been good at. Second, Michael Bevan would be regarded as the best finisher in ODI cricket, not MS Dhoni. And you say Dhoni is the best in the world at handling pressure situations? Is that what he was doing when he was trying to slog India out of trouble when chasing in the 4th innings in Auckland recently? To sum up, I find your comments amusingly inaccurate.

  • Valbhipur on February 24, 2014, 0:07 GMT

    First time in a long time i totally agree with Ian. Dhoni is like a very well build older model car. Now the standards, environment and batsman's out look has changed just the same for the car the terrain changes for the car. Dhoni is by far the best captain in all formats of the game for India. NO DOUBTS, but it is time for a change or rest Dhoni as captain for Tests. Kohli is the only choice which scares me. Cause may be the responsibility as a captain may effect his batting which under no circumstances India can afford! SO? Who is next? Thanks to Mr Niranjan Shah and his love for his son has prevented well needed experience for Cheteshwar Pujara to be able to lead team india. (Mr Shah's son is obliged as captain of team Saurastra where Pujara plays first class cricket) Otherwise I would choose Pujara to lead for few matches!

  • on February 24, 2014, 0:00 GMT

    don't think kohli has the temperament to fill dhoni's shoes ... he still needs sometime to be a captain

  • on February 23, 2014, 23:53 GMT

    Chappell said correctly, Dhoni is not a good captain in tests matches, and overseas tour always nightamre for indian team....however this is not fault of Dhoni.

  • jaguar7777 on February 23, 2014, 23:48 GMT

    dhoni should still be the captain of the other 2 formats.His leadership in test matches and his selection leaves a lot lot to be desired.To loose from a huge position of strength like in the first test in south africa and the 2nd in newzealand only india could have done that and dhoni's leadership or the lack of it has had a telling effect.Having said that i would like to emphasize that he is a brilliant one day captain who leads from the front.irrespective of what success kohli attains in the asia cup dhoni should be the man leading india in the shorter format.

  • on February 23, 2014, 23:45 GMT

    I am of the opinion ZAK needs to be retired. His bowling in NZ was beyond pathetic and one of the reasons, for India's failure in both games. For all those saying he is the onfield coach [including Wasim Akram], please watch Donald and McDermott riding the boundary lines and talking to senior bowlers including Steyn and Johnson. ZAK has been an exceptinal servant of Indian Cricket but he is holding up the development of a future Indian pacer. As long as Dhoni is captain and Zak and Ishant are in the team, these two will play for ever, such is Dhoni's loyalty. AS with other fans I am hoping Ishant turned a new page, but I am not yet sure and an indicator is his bowling in the Second Innings. I definitely would love to see other bowlers - Yadav, Pandey and Aaron given more opportunities.

  • HarrowXI on February 23, 2014, 23:17 GMT

    Ian Chappel is right. Dhoni needs to rest and create a strategy to defend next WC which will be his last world cup. He deserve to retire like great Imran khan. To do so he needs to retire from one format of cricket. I dont see he retire from CSK. I think he needs to retire from Test match cricket.

    This gives us a fresh M S Dhoni who we need us to Bat at No 4 and get pujara to open the innings in Odis.

    to be honest as an indian i know its not going to happen

  • RKEY on February 23, 2014, 23:16 GMT

    Clark Clark Clark!!!!!No doubt he is a good captain but where does his tactics go when Aus play in Indian condition and similar does holds true for MS. And talking about Smith being conservative you saw it today what has he done.

  • Unmesh_cric on February 23, 2014, 23:03 GMT

    As long as Srinivasan is there, Dhoni is not going anywhere. He will remain the captain of India no matter how many overseas Tests we lose. After India lost 8-0, the selection panel had allegedly suggested a new captain. But this has to be finally approved by the BCCI president. Guess what..it did not get approved.

  • venuc1 on February 23, 2014, 23:01 GMT

    Even in shorter format, his record overseas is not very good except winning Champions Trophy. They lost all in SA and all but one in NZ. It seems as though Dhoni gets homesick as soon as the plane lands for an overseas tour and looks like a different man altogether. Why is Ojha, the best spinner in India, ignored constantly?

  • Natx on February 23, 2014, 22:51 GMT

    For all those that say Dhoni is not blessed with a Steyn or Johnson, define your criteria. Is it pace, swing or bounce or their wicket taking ability? Both Steyn and Johnson didn't become overnight superstars and everyone knows their struggles during their first 3-4 years. I'm sure atleast one of Yadav, Aaron, Shami or Pandey is capable of becoming at least 50% of either Steyn or Johnson in terms of taking wickets if they are persisted with for 5-6 years. MSD is NOT a captain that instills that confidence in pace bowlers. He has his preference and "sticks" with his old friends - 125k Zaheer and Ishant. Going forward only one of them should be allowed to play (based on merit and not on past records) so the remaining guys (Aaron, Yadav, Pandey) will get a chance and experience rather than warming benches series after series. See what has happened to Rahane. A guy who was benched for nearly 2 years due to politics and stubborn selection of MSD and Fletcher.

  • Alexk400 on February 23, 2014, 22:22 GMT

    continues... With all dhoni's positives , i think its time for dhoni to go. if i am dhoni 's brother i want him to captain india for ever , but i am not. i go with rational approach. Can india win with dhoni in overseas? Not a chance. History proven that. I do not have to show anything. People may say india won champ trophy but i have to say it kinda fluke in that all the teams were bad at that time. playing australia is different conditions than england. England kinda home in that more indians thee to give enough crowd energy to show stuff. I want kohli captain because he oozes confidence , "blame it one me if anything happens" style captaincy , he takes responsibilty unlike dhoni ( who blames everyone but himself). Kohli style captaincy is good for india in that we have not experienced dragon (chinese astrology) captain in india. He will make his player play for him and inspire them. I do think Dhoni should be vice captain to mentor kohli if not remove him the team.

  • on February 23, 2014, 22:18 GMT

    With due respect, this is one of the most rubbish article from Ian Chappell. Besides Ashes, Michael Clarke hasn't prove that he is an aggressive as well as successful Captain to take Australia to match the greats of Rickey Ponting and Steve Waugh. Australia loosing in Indian Conditions is the same as India loosing in Australian conditions. We all have seen the test match where SA overwhelmed Australia by 230 odd runs, which shows Clarke still has a lot to prove. As far as Dhoni is concerned, he should be leading the side in all formats until 2015 World Cup and gradually make room for Kholi to lead the Indian Cricket team. India cannot afford too many changes given they recently went through a transitional phase of Tendulkar and Dravid hanging their boots. Dhoni's leadership is key and he has proven alot of pundits wrong over his career as a Captain as well as a wicketkeeper batsman.

  • Alexk400 on February 23, 2014, 22:15 GMT

    continued... The reason dhoni failed in overseas because he could not able to inspire his team in overseas tour. good captain can inspire people to do extordinary things even make them play at their 150% level. Dhoni never take risks in selections , field setting , batting order. He always select players who has bcci support in the back so he won't get bothered by them. His idea is do not do anything..things will fall in place do not work in overseas because crowd energy work against you. So many people wants to see you fail. With those situation , you have to rally up the team , not afraid of failure and make risky moves. But in reality we arm chair QB can say what we want , even though i am one of the "DUMP DHONI TEAM" i understand dhoni style completely. Captain of india is not easy thing. 1 billion people criticizing you , try to look for mistakes to dump you , you have to be very careful , dhoni is lucky and smart in that way to keep his job so far.

  • on February 23, 2014, 22:14 GMT

    MSD is a good captain with great records. he is defensive now, but y? mainly I think selection has caused this. no attacking bowlers have been given to MSD to attack with or even attacking part timers. the selectors think MSD is some super human who will make them take wickets, or that the batsmen will be able to chase anything down. if that is the case, MSD should not be bothered bout being defensive and people should look at his stats. even better just blame the selectors

  • Alexk400 on February 23, 2014, 22:09 GMT

    You put it in eloquent manner what i feel. Ha. Anyways my views on dhoni's obsession with captaincy. I do not agree indian fast bowlers are bad in overseas especially in nz tour. Anyone can win with best bowlers in the team. So if you give dhoni best bowlers best team he will win all the time do not merit discussion. A good captain win with mediocre bowlers. Dhoni does win in india with same bowler. Yes he rely more on spinners in india. That said i do not think dhoni has any good tactical captaincy skills at all. But he is probably best ever leader of men. His leadership skills has an aura that no one possess. As though he knows future ahead of time , he speaks what we viewer feel. Dhon style is do not break the bank , wait for opponents mistake style captaincy. Its safe captaincy in that with crowd energy opponents tend to make mistake and it works. You can not expect dhoni to do anything out of ordinary , he is not that smart but he is one damn lucky fellow ever...continued...

  • Silverbails on February 23, 2014, 21:53 GMT

    Although I sometimes disagree strongly with Chappell's comments, he's spot on with his assessment here! It's one which I've also been making recently. Definitely time for Kohli to come in at the Test level as Captain. Nothing wrong with "Mr Cool" continuing in the other formats as Dhoni has a good overall record in these shorter formats of the game. Otherwise, the only way that India is going to win any overseas Test matches is by playing only Zimbabwe and Bangladesh continuously!!

  • on February 23, 2014, 21:43 GMT

    i am utterly disappointed when team india looses in ondayers and tests in overseas you simply blast the captain,what,s the point if the bowlers cannot do their job in overseas conditions further they are not willing to learn the mistakes. in new zealand and south africa india add the real chance to win couple of test matches unfortunately the bowlers were ineffective in comparison to sout african and kiwi bowlers further phsically and mentally as well. by changing the captaincy i don,t think there is going to be any positive results further the batting order to always expect dhoni to do the workload then what,s the purpose of other batsmen in the side. if india cannot produce genuine fast bowlers with accuracy and aggressiveness then you cannot win test and onedayers in abroad even the captain is aggressive...

  • on February 23, 2014, 21:41 GMT

    After aus s performance we can safely say that Ind batting order is right now No 2 in the world as all of them have fifties and 4 of them have hundreds and they are all surely not ftb s they were made to look .Id stick with the same top order. Ppl saying Samson zol should be given chance can just see India s scorecard in qf s .They are two young. If they are struggling to play Fisher on UAE tracks how can they play Anderson Broad in England. Our top six is perfect age not too young not too old. Guys like Ishant Zaheer might be persisted with. Ishant somewhat even makes sense as he got 15 wickets in 2 tests. However lucky he was but 15 is a big number. Zaheer should ideally coach from behind ropes let yadav or bhuvi bowl. We need a specialist spinner no matter what .Eng will surely be easier this time as no Swann Kp maybe no Trott and Prior (who demolished us all round last time).We need Ojha he has outperformed Ashwin.Not even Mishra we need Ojha.

  • RaviNarla on February 23, 2014, 20:58 GMT

    While Dhoni is good for ODI's and T20's I think he pretty much found wanting in Overseas tests off late. In ODI's and T20s if you arrest the scoring rate chances of getting wickets are more. Not in tests. He is found using the same tactic Time and again. His reliance on Jadeja is affecting the chances in Overseas tests. Jadeja does not take wickets and scores only 20 or 30 odd runs. Also strangely when you had 4 wickets in hand with 100 needed to be scored he went in a ODI mode while a day of play was still available. Dhoni is still a good captain in Test but he needs to choose his eleven right. He is depending on his lower order fo any failures in top order and that affects the selection of eleven. With 3 bowlers you aboslutely cannot win a test match since Jadeja is just being used as an economy option.

  • sudhindranath on February 23, 2014, 20:58 GMT

    I think that they should stick with Dhoni for the England series because it would not be easy for any player to make his captaincy debut overseas. Even though India is playing England later in the summer and as such the weather will be better and the ball might not move so much as it does in Apr/May, it still would be difficult for a new captain to manage.

    I believe that there is a home series against the Windies in Oct/Nov, before the team heads to Aus for a series in Dec/Jan. India can experiment with a new captain for that series. If it works out, they can appoint him for the Aussie tour as well.

    Overall, I think it is going to be a tough year for India and they will probably lose 0-3 or 0-4 in England and by a similar margin Australia, and might find themselves down in the ranking to 4th or 5th place (and if they are somewhat unlucky, as low as 7th place) by the end of 2014. So, the new captain will have his job cut out for him.

  • on February 23, 2014, 20:14 GMT

    Who is the best captain when comes to handling pressure situtations? not cook, not AB, not even clarke, it is always and will always be MS DHONI. Who is the only captain who has all international trophies in his cabinet? MS DHONI. Who is the best finisher in the world till now? MS DHONI. Who is the one who showed spinner can bowl a first over in ODI and T20? MS DHONI. MS DHONI is a God's gift for India, If Dhoni hadn't been in the team as a captain, then I certainly believe Indians should have waited for WC and T20 trophies for long long time. No one in the world deserve to question DHONI'S captaincy, not even GOD. I thought only Indian media were waiting for an opportunity to criticise dhoni, but now it seems like everyone in the world is waiting for this. Don't criticise Dhoni's captaincy and his skills, criticise Indian selectors who had selected such bowlers. Thank Dhoni for his calmness on their bowlers, he doesn't yell at this bowlers like clarke does.

  • on February 23, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    I think Dhoni should change is approach of being defensive in testes and start agressively experiments with fast bowlers tryout all the fast bowlers lot that we have in squad both on bench as well experienced. And not put burden on the batsmen of chasing 300+ in ODIs and 450+ in tests. As he should know whatever he do india is going to lose the match with defensive approach why not try agressive approach. in 20years i havent seen a consistent fast bowler in india who can force wins overseas for india. not only dhoni but if u see the history you will find indian players have struggled in overseas conditions against SA AUS ENG NZ but dhonis team forced a draw in 2011 against SA and win against NZ in NZ that was under gary kirsten. So need of the hour is change of coach and not captain. BCCI should axe Duncan fletcher and bring Saurav Ganguli as indias coach and Wasim akram as bowling coach.

  • on February 23, 2014, 19:30 GMT

    Totally Agree...I cant understand why people say that with world cup due next year it would be rubbish to change captain...hello its the test team we are talking about...as a test captain, Dhoni is pure trash in foreign locations where his CSK colleagues dont fire...if you want to judge him by what he achieves on Indian soil, then lord save Indian cricket...If losses all over the world with such consistency doesnt warrant change of captain, what does? And what is this cry of I dont have bowlers? Does he play others even 1 match? has he even tried other pacers who are relatively less known to oppositions? Why is Ojha ignored constantly inspite of such match winning performances?...it is this extreme lack of flexibility and bias that he has which is hurting india....sincerely hoping for once they take correct decision and save Test India....(not a single word i wrote above is for ODI cricket, for god sake they are 2 different forms of cricket with different skill-set and mindset..phew

  • on February 23, 2014, 19:14 GMT

    Dhoni may relive his captaincy but he's still got 3/4 years of ODI and T20 cricket left in him. He is needed in ODI's captain or not. Just look at his average!!

    Imo talking about a change of captaincy when the World Cup is due is crazy talk

  • on February 23, 2014, 19:13 GMT

    india has never had more than one world class fast bowler. the spinners have won them most games. but right now after harbajan and kumble we havent seen a world class spinner. there resources at best are economical and can take wickets when defending big totals. they need to find better spinner if they are to win abroad.

  • thePakistanian on February 23, 2014, 18:29 GMT

    I don't get the argument Dhoni gave after ENG & Aus series 8-0!! "Well I don't have any good bowlers, poor me; what CAN I do"

    Same thing is still being said & so many of my Indians friends keep saying that... & it's just an absolute joke! Dhoni isn't Misbah, he's been captaining INDIA in some form since 2007, & almost entirely since 2008, if he can't FIND 1 good/great fast bowler out of 1 BILLION Indian; what he & COACH & Selectors doing... For last 6+ YEARS!! So don't give me that he doesn't have Wasim or a waqar or Lee or Steyn etc... Why can't he takes rest from SOME meaningless series & conducts a Talent hunt... "INDIAS GOT BOWLER" I bet you can find one!! If u try!!!!!

  • wolf777 on February 23, 2014, 18:24 GMT

    Any batting line up is great against tired and overworked Indian bowlers. Dhoni always goes in with 3 fast 1 spinner in overseas Tests. His bowlers fail to pick up wickets after initial breakthrough as they get tired. Partnerships developed and India lose the Test. As long as Dhoni is the Captain, this movie will just keep repeating...

  • on February 23, 2014, 18:13 GMT

    After reading thro many comments I am confused a bit can somebody clarify as to what does having a odi wc next year have to do with change of captaincy in tests.It is beyond my understanding when people say world cup is coming so captain should not be changed for tests wake up guys Ian Chappel is talking about change of leadership at test level not odi's.He has clearly mentioned that if Kholi does a good job in Asia Cup he must be handed the captaincy.All my fellow Indian fans open ur eyes and read what he said before blindly blasting and saying world cup is coming world cup is coming.With regard to bowlers yes India has been poor when it comes to pace bowling all people who burst into scene bowling 140+ over the time go down to 120-130k speeds.We have a few talented tall bowlers BCCI instead of focusing on IPL and controlling world cricket for money should focus on developing these young bowlers.If we have good bowlers we can win overseas too.

  • Deepak260595 on February 23, 2014, 17:53 GMT

    Spot on analysis by Ian. Whil dhoni's leadership abilities are of unquestionable credentials in odis his weak and defensive mindset has completely been exposed in tests, especially overseas, where on needs to rely much more on tactical analysis than unconventional street smartism. However kohli may not yet be the right man for the longer format. A pitential candidate maybe the discarded gambhir who still has a lot to offer as a batsman. He might serve as a good stopgap leader fo a couple of years. But will he make a comeback? Maybe a change in bcci leadership may pave the way for abolition of favoritism

  • on February 23, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    such views come from a great analyst when he doesn't follow india's matches so closely ... like sachin should retire in 2007, rohit sharma is an amazing player just coz he saw him bat in aus ... jp duminy is the next ricky ponting ... it's with the same captaincy that india had sa staring down the barrel in that 1st test and nz reeling at 47 for 4 in that wellington test ... i wonder if ian chappell had same views about his captaincy if he had seen that match ( i mean kohli dopping baz on 9 and ishant on 36) ... kohli was placed their especially for that catch ...he would certainly be praising dhoni as a captain who has resurged india in test cricket if mccullum was not dropped by kohli there .. i think indian cri needs dhoni to captain him till that world cup in all formats .. yes we didn't win those overseas series, but they were certainly in a very commanding position in two of those matches ..overall played very good 4 test matches..

  • on February 23, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    But beyond everything I question the passion and commitment to test cricket. Unless there is a top level BCCI focus on tests rather than the IPL, things will not improve for India's test record. And MSD has lost a series to England in India badly...not just overseas. The other aspects are his reluctance to experiment with new players. But Ian you have missed another quiet but startling fact - India has been abysmal in the ODIs compared to the SA and NZ tests! Even in India they struggles to control bailey and Faulkner. In tests atleast they should have won 3 of the last 4 matches. So MSD has not been focusing. He has been living on his laurels. The quality of the players is not great. Aswin should be our strike bowler and help with a 20 or 30 in batting. Vijay and Rohit have been throwing away gifts. India needs in ODIs, tests, etc 3 pacers, 2 spinners, and 2 part timers. Because we dont get great bowlers easily. So playing just 4 bowlers is too much strain. MSD or whoever...

  • on February 23, 2014, 17:39 GMT

    India's lack of a good pace attack will be a tough challenge for any Indian captain going forward. While Dhoni is very defensive overseas, dropped catches and lack of bowling options (4 bowlers including Jadaja who is not as good a Test bowler as Ohja) do not help the cause. Rohit Sharma, Vijay, I. Sharma, Z. Khan and Ashwin should not be given too many more chances. For the next India Test Captain to succeed, strengthened bowling has to be the focus with fielding not too far behind. I don't think Kohli is captain material yet and it may take away from his batting. I get the feeling that Dhoni will captain the Indian Test side for many more years to come which is not good for Indian cricket because the team selection, player bias (Vijay, Ashwin and Rohit, Ishant chosen regularly despite their failures) and defensive field placements are not conducive for long-term Test Match success. Wait - IPL is around the corner so why all the fuss?

  • vj3478 on February 23, 2014, 17:39 GMT

    We have a world cup next year and so its rubbish to talk about change of captaincy now. It might confuse the team and effect the confidence both old and new captains!

  • Valavan on February 23, 2014, 17:37 GMT

    Indian fans just cant accept clarke is better captain than Dhoni in tests. why?? Only because of loosing 7 tests in a row. If you calculate the overall winloss ratio and the innovation, clarke is miles ahead. A guy pointing out today's defeat vs SA, SA deserved to win but Australia were colocking at 4 per over until warner got out which implies that Australia tried to win it if possible but not to draw it. Since they tried to win they lost it. No credit taken away from SA as they showed the world why they are no.1 (Not just ICC ranking), Otherhand Dhoni, he tries to draw test matches instead of winning it. Moreover Batting failed for aussies in england than the bowling, for india everything failed between 2011 - 2012 under dhoni, now dhoni drew winnablle matches and lost the rest. His cry for the pitches and shameless excuses can calm the BCCI, but greatest captain tag does not match him, in one way or other he didnt do anything spectacular. cricinfo please publish.

  • WC2India on February 23, 2014, 17:00 GMT

    Well, while I agree Dhoni is not a great captain in tests away, but saying Clarke is great is hilarious. He lost 0-4 away and won 50 at home. Look at the way they got trashed in 2nd test against SA.......Mitch did not fire and Aussie 2nd innings scorecard looks like a telephone number !!

  • Rohit-Sen on February 23, 2014, 17:00 GMT

    Agree with you Ian. But Dhoni staying or not staying captain... That decision is not for bcci to make. It's for Srini to decide - and he has other matters to ponder as impact of Dhoni not being captain on his CSK franchise etc. Whatever be the reason, wether it's quality of bowlers available or any other reason, no captain deserves to be there after his dreadful overseas test record. If that the best he can do, give someone else a chance! But that's not how Indian cricket works!

  • on February 23, 2014, 16:59 GMT

    Test cricket is a different beast altogether. A mother of all formats in which a team wins when it shows a penchant for taking wickets. This can only happen if the captain is aggressive. A conservative captain slowly and steadily erodes the aggressive streak of players and perfect illustration of it is Anderson under Cook who has become now a stock bowler. Dhoni is even worse. A hint of slightest fightback is good enough for Dhoni to get defensive. However on a side note, our selectors thoughts typically fall in line with BCCI's 'vision'. They are not passive but subservient to BCCI. Those who don't fall in line are cast aside - See Mohinder Amarnath.

  • on February 23, 2014, 16:46 GMT

    Indian fans should get some balance here. 8 out of our 11 players in the NZ test were not part of the team in the England away tour. In under two years, a team which lost Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, SRT, VVS, Kumble has rebuilt a whole new credible batting lineup, and a decent bowling attack. Before you attack the bowling comment, consider this - they just bowled out NZ for 105 and 200 odd and outbowled Steyn and company in SA in two out of four innings in SA.They basically had three really bad outings with the ball in the four away test matches, and Dhoni is being crucified for it. If anything I think Dhoni got carried away and overattacked in SA which allowed Faf and AB to get so close. I think this suggestion from Chappell is on the same lines as SRT should retire in 2008, JP Duminy is the next Ponting in 2009, and Rohit Sharma is so amazing a couple of years ago. All wrong.

  • on February 23, 2014, 16:37 GMT

    Chappell has a habit of proposing Aussie skippers as role models regardless of how poor they sometimes are. It used to be laughable to see Ponting proposed as a wonderful skipper back then. Now, Clarke is in the middle of a period of success which actually follows a horrendous run. When compared to Clarke's and Ponting's combined efforts on rebuilding team Australia after the retirement of their greats, Dhoni has done a stellar job. Consider this, the Aussies took from 2008 to 2013 to finally produce a credible team. India has taken less than 2 years. Dhoni's team has 8 new players all under 25 tests who have won 9 out of 12 matches at home since the 0-8 overseas. The 8/8 loss overseas record has been transformed into 2/4. The team has a solid batting lineup now, and this bowling attack just got NZ rolled over for cheap scores twice in four innings. The defensive field placement comments are equally rubbish. Especially in SA where Faf and AB got so close only because MSD overattacked

  • on February 23, 2014, 15:57 GMT

    I completely agree with Mr. Chapell saying that it is the rite time for dhoni to leave the test captaincy....he should rather focus fully on the world cup 2015..... I think India need someone like THE GREAT GANGULY......who gets more involved in the growth of a player....someone more aggressive.......i think dhoni need to know that india have never produced the greatest fast bowlers in the world but still have managed to take 20 wickets and win tests abroad.... I think dhoni somewhere knows that the opposition are going to score big runs and hence he tries to delay the runs rather then preventing the batsmen top score them.....also with his selection, he becums a bit too predictable with the choice of playing XI.......not giving OJHA a ball overseas was dishartening concidering the weak performences by the spinners......

  • crickketlover on February 23, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    Chappell claimed recently that Australia now has great batting line up that can beat any team and Australia is losing badly to SA in the second test! If Kholi had not dropped that catch from McCullum, Indian would have won second test in NZ and Dhoni would have been hailed by Chappell as one of the best captains - Dhoni placed Kholi at the correct spot in the fielding anticipating McCullum would hit that shot. I think Kholi should focus on his batting for next couple of years so that he really has a great chance of becoming one of the greatest batsmen in world cricket.

  • on February 23, 2014, 15:04 GMT

    so are we saying that dhoni can be captain for all matches except tests played overseas..?

  • on February 23, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    Dhoni has become too complacent.He takes things for granted and thinks his luck would see him through. Time for him to let go of the Test captaincy. India is already sliding down the ranking ladder.

  • aarpee2 on February 23, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    The problem lies in our judgement being based on feelings and not facts ..The future of Indian team performance in overseas tests cannot be sacrificed at the altar of 'personality Cult'.The fact is we have been thrashed thoroughly in 4 consecutive tours.The answers lies in a fresh combination of strategy and tactical inputs which only a new leader can infuse in his team and impose on the opposition keeping in view tours of England and Australia in the latter half of this year . MSD can be pursued with in the shorter formats as skipper.as his shelf life is well past the expiry date in tests overseas.

  • sergio11 on February 23, 2014, 14:34 GMT

    i think its time..but virat is too young,played just 24 test..if captaincy effects his batting its huge lose for india...so cannt take a risk right now..in odi virat is experinced enough to take the captaincy..so right now...its better to make Kholi odi and T20 captain alone..dont even think about giving test captaincy to him..after ENG tour and Aus tour..Kholi will be ready to take test captaincy i guess...but as Ian said,i dont think selector will do that...its all up to Dhoni..if Virat does well in Asia Cup and Dhoni feel Virat doing better than him,i am sure Dhoni will step down...but i always felt ,captaincy has lot to do with MSD as a batter..if he is step down as captain may be he will find difficult to perform as consistently as before..if so, again it will be a big lose...so what ever decision selector and MSD make..i hope its the correct one..

  • itsthewayuplay on February 23, 2014, 14:34 GMT

    What nonsense from IC. The issue is not with Dhoni's captaincy but with his bowlers. You have to take 20 wickets to a test match and India doesn't have the pacers to do that at the moment and no captain can change that. Michael Clarke is an attacking captain because he has attacking bowlers. How attacking would he be if he has to captain India. Wicket-keeper, batsman and captain in all three formats is a huge challenge for anyone even for the very fit and mentally strong Dhoni so the first step would be to have a discussion with Dhoni as to what can be done reduce to his workload.

  • Vikram_Rathore on February 23, 2014, 14:24 GMT

    There is no-captain as unimaginative as Dhoni. He tries nothing new, nothing different, never sets up a fielding/ bowling commensurate with a batsman's weakness to get him out. He does not pick team on merit. He gives Rohit, Jadeja, Raina & Ishant assured seat, despite repeated non performances. He allows players like Rayudu with domestic average of 44 to get into Indian Test Side!

    His worst trait is he never forsters new talent. Dhoni received a great test team handed over to him in a Platter by Ganguly, who built it from the scratch. Dhoni merely went along with that great team & got all the records under his belt, without building a team like Ganguly did. 5 Series Drubbings in a Row, there is nothing he can do about. Thanks to Dhoni, the next Captain has to pretty much build a team from the scratch again...

    All Dhoni's fans please stand up on the bench, & if you still have a positive opinion of him, please raise your hand & place it over your mouth.

  • cloudmess on February 23, 2014, 14:21 GMT

    This slightly defensive attitude is typically Indian - a mindset is rooted in Asian limited overs games on flat pitches, when the aim is to tie down rather than overly attack. I also think it is partly a Duncan Fletcher attribute, whose attitude is always to stay in the game first and then try to win in. Kohli might be a more abrasive, attacking captain like Ganguly, but he might be a bit raw for the role (and Ganguly had many faults as a captain too). Perhaps it's also just personnel - don't see how India can play as they once did having lost Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman; Zaheer Khan is not quite the bowler he was.

  • giri201282 on February 23, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    Following points come to my after reading the article:

    1) firstly Grame Smith is defensive or aggressive does not matter. he is one of the greatest captains in history of cricket and has stupendous record both at home and away especially considering the fact that SA have had no spinner of repute from the time they have come back to cricket and yet he enjoys a stupendous record in subcontinent too. 2) Micheal Clarke does not become great captain by beating england 5-0 in ashes in Australia. He lost 4-0 in India, Lost ashes 3-0 in England and if am not wrong lost to SA in Austalia. So the judgement on Clarke is to be reserved right now. 3) The first point of having Dhoni leading the team should be wether he justifies his position in the team i.e. is he the best WK-Batsman in India today for tests?I doubt that. For tests I believe Karthik has better skills in both departments. 4) Now that Dhoni is the captain,has he got a team which can score 300+ in two innings and take...continued

  • Jaffa79 on February 23, 2014, 14:09 GMT

    I agree with the people who state that Dhoni and India pick ODI players. I'd extend that by asking whether India actually care about Test cricket? They only seem to care about the pyjama cricket and not play the highest form of the game. Their batsmen struggle in testing conditions and show no guts or heart and their bowlers are just used to damage limitation. It is a shame.

  • Kachada1 on February 23, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    While I agree that Dhoni's defensive approach is to be questioned, I also question our (public's) ability to accept defeat should the aggressive approach, blow up on our collective faces. Would we be forgiving of a a captain for having fought a match well and lost, as opposed to playing defensively and saving a game?

  • Natx on February 23, 2014, 13:54 GMT

    I think there is an effort going on in the background to get Andy Flower as the coach, as the unsuccessful Fletcher term is coming to an end. If Flower comes in, he will likely have the selectors persist with Dhoni until world cup, given the conservative approaches he took with England. Based on the performances of the Indian batsmen in SA and NZ, I don't think they will fail miserably in Eng for two reasons. (1) The series will be played after June when the ball doesn't swing as much as it does in April-June and Kohli, Dhawan, Pujara, Rahane have scored 100's during the last 3 months abroad (2) India has numerous medium pace & decent swing bowlers than express bowlers. Remember the performances of RP Singh & Praveen Kumar in previous Eng tours. This time Bhuvi kumar, Pandey and Shami will do for them, with one of Yadav or Aaron likely to play if the pitch is expected to offer help to pace. Ishant is likely to stay based on his NZ performance. So a new captain is unlikely until 2015.

  • on February 23, 2014, 13:43 GMT

    one thing which confuses me, why all the writer or ex-cricketer suddenly started praising Clarke? Australia white washed England at home and India did the same by beating Australia comprehensively. dhoni is a good captain at home and lost serious abroad whereas Clarke did the same by beating England at home. I believe let Clarke continue his form of winning overseas then start praising him. criteria of comparison should have to be same.!!

  • on February 23, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    I have been commenting in these columns since 2011 England tour that MSD does not understand Test Match cricket. He is confused when things do not shape the way a ODI game shapes where containment is the name of the game. In test Cricket we need bowlers to take 20 wickets to win. He expects experienced medium pacers, average Ranji Trophy spinners and part time bowlers to win test matches in foreign pitches. . He does not select fast bowlers who bowl at 140 +. He does not understand this because he is risk averse. As a Captain he should back his new fast bowlers like Umesh Yadav, Varun Aaron, Ishwar Pandey. He does not do that. When rookie fast bowlers lack the confidence of their captains, by not playing them what do you expect from the new bowlers? I did see the test match in England when MSD Captaincy was terrible. Ishant and Umesh were bowling at 145 -150 Kph in Melboune to an open field and we blame them for not taking wickets. The problem is wrong selection & bad captaincy

  • joseyesu on February 23, 2014, 13:32 GMT

    Is dhoni not suitable for captaincy. What all these figures ICC world cup 2012, Champions trophy 2013, T20, Test no.1 ranking, IPL 2 times, Campions league. Is there anybody to compare with him. Why Clarke has not been replaced before the ashes tour for the poor performance. I dont find any one worth comparing him, even it be Ganguly or Gavaskar.

  • wajidahmedkhan456 on February 23, 2014, 13:18 GMT

    yes a captain is as good as its team.but you can't let opposition getaway time again and lose or let opposition score runs to draw and that too from wining position.this had happen in Capetown test(2011),England and Australia twice or thrice. yes india have been like this in the past as well but they didn't let winning opportunity get away like dravid and kumble in england and perth respectively.

    now coming to bowlers, seamer especially i feel india or bcci should let our bowlers play in county cricket bcoz all great fast bowlers have played in there likes of Lillele,thomson,garner,marshell,holding,imran,wasim and even kapil dev. bcoz clearly our bowlers needs to learn or develop skills be it reverse swing,seamimg the ball or swinging.

    coming to captaincy i feel dhoni should continue till england and if rohit succeed as batsman and dhoni fail as captain then rohit should be given captaincy,i am actually not fan of rohit, but don't want to see kohli or pujara getting extra burden.

  • hhillbumper on February 23, 2014, 13:07 GMT

    @ Michael scoreline. This is about test cricket and you have never won a test series in Australia or south Africa.think is a limited overs player only when odds and wickets suit him.

  • on February 23, 2014, 13:07 GMT

    There is some merit in what Chappell is saying. I think the bottom line is, Dhoni is more comfortable in home conditions where the pitches turn and he has Ashwin/Ohja/Jadeja up his sleeve. Also remember, Dhoni was a very creative test captain initially when he took the role in 2008. A great example is when he changed the batting order, and put himself to bat in at no.3 (instead of Dravid) during the 3rd innings against Australia and made a quick-fire 68; this allowed an early declaration on the 4th day and gave India an opportunity to win the test.

    Dhoni needs to re-discover this lost creativity that made him so successful initially and he needs to adopt this aggressive mindset overseas even at times his pace-attack is nonthreatening. I also think he is the right man for the job to lead India in Tests and ODI's (he should consider giving up T20). Even Clarke (who Chappell praised) has made many bizarre decisions at times during his captaincy, but seems to have learned from mistakes.

  • wajidahmedkhan456 on February 23, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    yes it is true that dhoni is defensive in his captaincy in utilising seamers in any format and especially abroad in tests. yes these bowlers are not as well skillful as SA,AUS, or ENG but india have won with these bowlers under decently aggressive captains like ganguly and especially dravid in eng,aus,sa.

    yes he has step down as captain in tests as there are going to be played abroad.but i don't think that is going to happen till world cup as long as srinivassan is there or unless dhoni himself step down.

    For india to win abroad two things are required bowling wise firstly if india did makes early inroad, how there are going maintain pressure and take wickets say after 30 overs if it doesn't reverse swing and for this india needs to find a peter siddle or neil wagner type of bowler who runs in and maintain pressure perhaps umesh yadav or shami and one of them as stike bowlers perhaps shami if he can maintain his speed and skills. secondly india desperately needs leg spinner

  • on February 23, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    Following on from my previous post, Dhoni MUST start picking a wicket taking spinner and not ODI specialists who can bat a little and twirl their arms over. India has to change the mindset that NOT LOSING is acceptable to NOT WINNING is unacceptable. Along the way there will be defeats but at least we won't have to switch channels when India bowls. Make plans for the opposition batsman and insist that the bowlers execute the plans. If they can't, they either go and improve their skills or change them. Only when the culture of accepting mediocre performance changes might the message finally get thru to our guys. Hire the very best specialist bowling coach that BCCI's vast riches can buy, and see if we can't use pne of our own legends as a batting coach. Get rid of Fletcher and get the best fielding & conditioning coaches. In a word, professionalise attitudes to match remuneration. But we're talking about India...so never gonna happen bcoz favourite sons are always forgiven!

  • on February 23, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    michael Corleone...how many years has team India occupied the no 1 rank compared to the Ozzies or more recently the Saffas. Yes we have had our Indian legends but precious few victories, esp away from home. we need to be more demanding of our fast bowlers...there MUST be better options than the underwhelming Ishant Sharma. India enjoyed a renaissance under Ganguly...we squared up to our opposition and let them know that they had to play well to beat us. Did Ganguly have great fast bowler options? He inspired, beat his chest, and led. I still hace great memories of him taking his shirt off amd waving it above his head in riposte to the actions of Flintoff (after Mumbai ODI I think). Yes he apologised for this but the point was well made. India is playimg meek Test match cricket and that is the format that provides the ultimate test of character. Dhoni could start by picking a 4+1 attack, back his 5 batters and himself to provide the runs and ensure not a single run is yielded cheaply

  • on February 23, 2014, 12:25 GMT

    I honestly think that this whole idea of captaincy thing is over rated. The captain is as good as his team. It is as simple as that.

    As an extreme example, make michael clarke the captain of the UAE (i arbitarily choose uae here) team and they will still not win a single match. Give dhoni (who is viewed as a bad captain) the seam bowling resources of south africa and dont be surprised if a good captain is now touted as a great captain. Similarily give the indian bowling attack to michael clarke and they still get demolished.

    My point is "it is not dhoni in overseas condition that is bad" it is indian team in overseas conditions which is bad. similarily it is not dhoni in home conditions which is good, it is india in overseas conditions which is good.

    same is the case with all other teams. where was the captaincy genius of clarke when his team got destroyed in india. (which are away conditions for them). simple answer is his team is not good in those conditions . not that he is bad

  • on February 23, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    what's with the hate for rohit sharma.... these batsmen are the best he has... there are none who can replace this crop of batsmen. The problem is with coach... Dhoni's early success in T20 wc and later on from 2008 till 2011 wc were under the likes of lalchand rajput and gary kirsten. Duncan fletcher's appointment neva inspired confidence atleast to me... abd he is living upto my apprehensions... if anything needs to chamge. it is the coach and dhoni's sekection of spinners... Dhoni needs wicket takers.. and jaddu and ashwin are more of container's... ashwin's ofi record speaks for itself.. if any change then the bowling attack has to comprise of 3 pacers + 1 spinner. . and should always include umesh yadav and mishra/ojha. or be brave enough and give chance to kuldeep yadav/harmeet singh... and if jadfu has to play... then and only then for 5 bowler thing.. rohit/vijay need to be replaced.

  • rahul.singh on February 23, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    Dhoni should be definitely replaced as captain in tests. his utility as a batsman in tests is limited as proved by his overseas test record. In one dayers, he is still good and should continue till the coming world cup.

  • sherishahmir on February 23, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    Sharing MS burden is a good idea since he is playing all formats and his past performance suggested that he is good in short version. Kohli is young, aggressive excited and passionate cricketer and no doubt in short time he developed himself as one of the great batsman in the world cricket, but in order to preserve Kohli with the batting role the other viable option can be Rohit Sharma, he is also a calm head player who understand the skipper role as shown by him in last IPL when ponting failed to lead Mumbai and he took reign and won the title for his franchise as a farewell to great batsman sachin. Otherwise, bringing Gambir is also good option as he is experienced, talented and aggressive i.e. got all attributes require to lead the Indian team in test arena and at the same time BCCI has to work on their bowlers by bringing some good external coach, even some great from Pakistan to develop them to perform in alien conditions.

  • Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on February 23, 2014, 12:10 GMT

    @cricwar I couldn't agree more, as an Aussie I felt the same way about Hayden,Gilchrist & Ponting, why these guys aren't involved with cricket Australia in some type of coaching role i'll never know, batsman would benefit greatly from it, VVS and Dravid would be great assets.

  • shrastogi on February 23, 2014, 12:03 GMT

    Bad results per say is not so much problem as they are bound to happen even with worldbeaters in both bowling and batting departments but its the process which results into those shouldnt be faulty. It has been suggested that there seem to be no problem with Dhoni in shorter formats and its the tests where the real problem lies. I think off late Dhoni has been disastrous in ODIs as well. His team selection has been rotten and he has been backing players far too long and making others as mere travellers. The 8-0 losses were with aging,losing form, experienced players where a captain couldnt have done much. In SA & NZ there has been a marked improvement in tests with youngsters but Dhoni hasnt been able to score big points. Somebody suggested that a selector should be made to travel with the team. I like the idea and he should get a say in team selection. With this rider I would give Dhoni some more time as others are just not mature enough to take reins.

  • S_M_G on February 23, 2014, 12:01 GMT

    Mon problem with Dhoni is to keep playing on players taht are failing. They score once in a while or take wickets. But new deserving lot never gets chance (Sharmas and Raina are prome example). Another problem is selecting on IPL performace. Mohit Sharma is prome example. In IPL Dhoni played A. Rajpoot before Mohit Sharma. He dropped sitter at fine leg and was dropped next game. Mohit came in and bowled really well. Caught Dhoni's eye and rest is now history for Mohit.

  • on February 23, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    Dhoni goes for the same names even after continuous failure. Ishwar Pandey had a very successful tour of South Africa A .He would have definitely excelled in Newzealand and stop this nonsense of India do not have bowlers of calibre of Steyn,Johnson blah blah.If not for Kohli dropping MCCulum India would have trounced New Zealand by an innings so a bowling unit which would have dismissed NewZealand thrice under 200 is not bad. Also Kohli has to improve his fielding ,he is dropping too many catches for comfort. Either Dhoni is a bad captain or Indian fielders are not up to the mark.

  • DaisonGarvasis on February 23, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    Though I agree with Chappelli's comments on how defensive Dhoni is as Captain, one has to agree whatever success he brought was by being defensive. However, it has been a routine for India in overseas to capture a few great early breakthroughs and then allow the batsmen to settle down for long partnerships. It actually started in the 4-0 defeat in Australia where most innings AUS were down 3 or wickets down for less than 50 and then a monumental partnership take the game away. 1st test in SA should have been won by India but that huge partnership was there. second test in NZ also India was in great position and then the huge partnership. Chappelli is spot on saying Dhoni is waiting for mistakes from the batasmen rather than forcing the issue. However, he is limited in his bowling options as well. Even his supposedely spin options are not looking good. Changing him may not be the only answer but that can be considered as an option.

  • here2rock on February 23, 2014, 11:28 GMT

    I don't buy the argument that India don't have great bowlers but they have enough talent but their leader does not trust them. This shows in his defensive approach. It is a leader's job to make them believe that they are just as good as anyone around the world.

    By the way, don't expect any proactive approach from Indian Selectors, Dhoni is bigger than the president Obama in India. No selectors have the guts to remove him and he is a fighter and not going to give it up till he proves everyone wrong. There lies India's problem!

  • on February 23, 2014, 11:28 GMT

    over different periods of time the quality of Indian batsmen or bowlers has remained more or less the same with a few honourable exceptions here and there.India has not produced bowlers like Lilee,Mcgrath,Marshall,Akram.Batsmen of immense prowess have been there but a question mark has always been placed against their abilities to handle pace and bounce in overseas conditions.Now the moot point is other factors remaining almost constant how did the team perform unexpectedly well in Aus. and Saf. only a few years ago.Amongst the various discernible reasons my mind stops at leadership skill of Ganguly and Dhoni.It made the big if not the biggest difference to the team's confidence as well as fortunes. Therefore it would be apt to say the recent drubbing of the team reflects something has gone irreparably wrong with the plans or methods of the revered skipper.In modern times plan or fame are shortlived eg, 2g,3g,4g etc.Time to move on fast to the next level.Tendulkars were exceptions.

  • on February 23, 2014, 11:20 GMT

    if dhoni wins the game people say he is the best in the world.And if he loose people never supports him.if you cant support him when he loose.then dont even try to be in his happiness.its very easy to say that he is not doing anything jst go and be in his side .And see what all he is doing for india to win the game......!!!!!

  • stormy16 on February 23, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    While I see the need for the debate I am not convinced its time for Dhoni. Yes he has had a shocking away record but its not like he has the weapons to be effective overseas. Both his batters and bowlers struggle in seam conditions so there should be no surprise why his team struggled. I would bring up the loss at home to Eng as a more relevant series to call for Dhoni's head. I think most relevant is India is in a period of transition from the Sachin, Dravid, Lax, Harbajan and Zak to the Khoni, Dhawan, Pujara, Ashwin and co and having a stready captain at this time is important. I would be hesitent to burden Kholi with the captaincy in a time where he himself is just getting a decent record going. I would give Kholi a while more before throwing the test captaincy at him. Also captaining India is not like captaining another country so I would be happy to stick with Dhoni till he runs out of steam.

  • riprock on February 23, 2014, 11:18 GMT

    Msd's celeb stature in his cricket crazy nation is too eminent and the laurels he's gotten to the BCCI and fans with world cups, T20 heroics, home wins etc. might just unfairly extend his stay as the test skipper. However much he's the apple of the board's eye, .. not sure how it justifies the ignominy of whitewashes and winless streaks overseas. Ms can continue limited overs for a couple of years or so atleast but should let the test side establish itself and address its concerns right from the skipper to the bowlers or whatever. Remains to be seen if another possible beating in England mid year can ruffle a few feathers and elicit that much needed decision!

  • Coolcapricorn on February 23, 2014, 11:09 GMT

    It is all very well saying MSD doesn't have a bowler of like Steyn or Johnson in his team's bowling armoury but he helps in choosing his bowlers & the composition of his team. On the recent tours of both SA & NZ, his captaincy has been found wanting a lot which had led to the team throwing away winning opportunities and ending in series defeats rather than wins. He has also chosen the wrong bowling composition in his team by being a seamer short in Tests & playing two spinners in ODI's - which generally doesn't work outside the subcontinent! Then even with his seamers chosen, to show a total lack of confidence in them by not taking the new ball at all on the 4th morning of the Durban Test is simply unforgivable! SA were let off the hook, Kallis was handed a farewell century & another winning opportunity was thrown away. With difficult tours to England & Australia round the corner, the team certainly needs 'freshening up' & time for MSD to step down & new players given a chance!

  • cricwar4184 on February 23, 2014, 11:05 GMT

    Also it will be useless if you bring back viru, gouti & yuvi in the current team. i really urge our legends VVS, Dravid took the batting coach role and encourage our current team instead bringing back those oldies...

  • cricwar4184 on February 23, 2014, 11:00 GMT

    It is not good to remove dhoni from his captaincy, I am sure he will retire from tests after Aus tour later this year and before world cup. But you cannot get a captain like dhoni specially in current team. Only pujara & kohli are leading but not sure to handle. we should not put preasure on kohli by giving the captaincy b4 world cup. As dhoni told that till WC changing the captain is not an ideal step. try to find out some bowlers yaar. we are really missing some good bowlers. but we are indians as zak told that our body is not fit to bowl 145 or 150 speed consistantly. good luck...

  • on February 23, 2014, 10:28 GMT

    Valid arguments vis-a-vis overseas conditions where meander and Mahendra are synonymous. In his defence, the unpredictability of India's fast(er) bowlers has been a factor in his defensive approach. India will struggle with the 3 1 attack whilst travelling as none of the batsmen can be expected to do what Sehwag, Ganguly, and Tendulkar did, i.e. offer a few meaningful overs.

  • Cricket_Man on February 23, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    I am a Pakistani but I honestly think that teams other than India would be very happy to see Dhoni leave the captaincy. I have a feeling that Dhoni has been the mastermind behind the new face of Indian cricket since 2005-06. But I also feel that there is no backup for Dhoni as a captain. Players like Kohli, Pujara and Dhawan have blossomed under Dhoni and they are very good players but I think none of them is the captaincy material. I think India would once again become a timid team of the 90s or early 2000s if Dhoni is removed now. I think the Asia Cup to follow would prove my point. Kohli is a legend in the making but he seems to have too many emotions bubbling within him. Whereas, Dhoni always seems cool and calm no matter what the situation is and that allows him to make good decisions. A few bad series' here and there happens with the best of them so If I were an Indian I'd pardon Dhoni for the show in the Kiwi land.

  • on February 23, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    @Anupam Ajmani - Bowlers like Steyn and Johnson didn't drop from the sky and started performing for their teams, they were given chances and developed by their teams. On the other hand Dhoni has been playing same old bowlers and he has been praising series after series loss despite their pathetic performances.

    We found Zaheer Khan, because in Champions Trophy Saurav Ganguly gave him a chance to perform.

    Stop defending Dhoni's defensive captaincy, and we must have an aggressive captain in tests. As far as T20 and ODI are concerned, DHONI is perfect for those formats, but not for tests.

  • Vitruvius on February 23, 2014, 10:00 GMT

    Its a torture watching India play test matches these days especially when they are bowling. Dhoni has lead India to a dark period (like in 90's) in the test Arena. An Indian fan would agree with me when i say that he doesn't bother watching when India is bowling and i don't blame him. I mean, who would want to watch Ishant Sharma bowl?? Playing the same set of spineless bowlers again and again and again is more than enough to be losing interest in this Indian team. Some people talk about how Dhoni is not as blessed as say a Smith or Clarke when it comes to bowlers. How can Dhoni unearth a good bowler if he doesn't give the new guys any opportunities?? There is enough bowling talent in India which he doesn't bother to utilize. A new captain might change this and might give opportunities to a lot of new talent.

  • Arrow011 on February 23, 2014, 9:49 GMT

    IAN is right, what more should a test captain do to lose his job? Dhoni & Duncan fletcher have become synonymous to overseas defeats that they both do not deserve to continue in their jobs.

  • Vitruvius on February 23, 2014, 9:49 GMT

    Dhoni will be better of without Test Captaincy! He looks tired and as Ian mentions, is an absent minded professor on the field. His wait and see approach works in the limited overs game in familiar conditions. I don't see any merit on the basis of which Dhoni should continue. Dhoni, like other Indian captains has been successful with Test matches at home. I don't see any big merit in that. A lot of people here talk about world cup as a turning point for Dhoni, as in, he should relinquish captaincy from all forms of the game after that. Now, how does world cup affect his test captaincy?? It doesn't make sense. We have 2 Big test series against Eng and AUS and i wouldn't want to see a spineless Indian team get thrashed again. Dhoni will play his favorites again (Ishant, Rohit, Ashwin, Jadeja etc) and will lose. We need to rope in new players which Dhoni will never allow. So the only option is someone else taking over the reigns of the test team.

  • on February 23, 2014, 9:43 GMT

    Exactly what me and my friend were discussing. Saying that Indian bowlers are no good is just one side of argument. The captain is also responsible to use strategies to take wickets, its not just bowlers who take wickets. Clarke is the best example. No matter how fast Johnson bowls he wont be able to sustain it if he is asked to bowl 50 overs in an innings, which happened with Zaheer. Zaheer should have been used as a go to bowler with short spells and his bag of tricks. Instead Dhoni used him as a workhorse. The earlier 8-0 was also batsmen's failure. But this SA and NZ loss has been Dhoni's failure.

  • on February 23, 2014, 9:26 GMT

    Back in 2008, during the Ind-Aus test series in India, Dhoni captained in a couple of test matches because Kumble was injured. And along the way this also led to Kumble announcing his retirement. I remember, Kumble had to walk off half way through a session and Dhoni took over. Dhoni immediately changed to attacking fields and I think he brought in a short mid wicket which resulted in a wicket. During that time, this was the same Ian Chapell who was heralded in the gen-next Indian captain and was all praise for Dhoni's out of box field placements and aggressive approach. Now ~6 years later this is the same Ian Chapell who is asking for Dhoni to be axed. I am not blaming Chapell, I am in fact agreeing with him. I think captains get out dated and their ideas get out dated. They tend stay beyond their sell-by-date. Dhoni is currently in that position. Ian Chapell was correct in 2008 and is also correct now. Time and tide waits for no-one. Dhoni needs to move on and we need to move on.

  • on February 23, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    It is sad even India could not win even a single match in Newsland or South Africa. I think on moral grounds, the Captain needs to be changed and some of the players requires to be rested to enable to them to get over the nightmare they might have suffered when they could take only one wicket on fourth day of the second test against Newsland. More than anything else we need to find out really good fast bowler to fill in the fourth bowler spot. One good all rounder who can take wicket and score 40 to 5o in all conditions to fill in the fifth bowler spot. Without this I think our quest for retaining World Cup will be difficult.

  • ihaq1 on February 23, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    Dhoni has become used to good batsmen saving teh matches and he has not developed his bowling to teh extent needed in foreign countries...while u might not say that he is down and out as a captain as india require his strengths of being teh main backup batsman in most situations...his wickekeeping is adequate but he is not great at making his bowlers attack..many did however think that samson who is one of teh most brilliant i have seen amongst india's batsmen wickekeepers should get his slot once virat takes over..as has happened before one cannot win test matches by being defensive...fast bowlers have to bowl fast and move teh bowl up and sideways and one needs an aggressive spinner ...ojha would be my choice on tour

  • on February 23, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    Dhoni has no knowledge of the conditions or field placement when playing outside the sub-continent. Also, he does not lead by example. You see successful team wicket keepers are batting so beautifully like ABD for SA, Haddin for Aus, Prior until of late for Eng. But Dhoni has never played a match winning innings for India in tests outside India. He never will but he does not have the quality to do so.

    But just leave it here, bcoz he is too big in Srinivas regime and he wil keep playing Ashwin, Jadeja nd Vijay all the non-performers. Lehmann is the most wonderful coach right now. He pulls his players for non-performance. Take from me harris would be dropped after second test. That is why Aus have started to become succesful recently. Bcoz their coach is not a big fat bully sitting on a pretty fat cheque every month.

  • Humdingers on February 23, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    Agree with Dhoni has to go from the Test squad but adding Kohli in there could backfire. He's the best batsmen in the squad and additional pressure could work against his natural tendencies. But then again...who else is there? Cupboard looks pretty bare.

  • Nagendren on February 23, 2014, 9:08 GMT

    I think rohit sharma should be made captain ahead of kohli because kohli was unable to win ipl despite having a great side and moreover he shouts at his bowler and opts his field settings despite the bowlers(eg:kohli shouted at vinay kumar in a match for rcb).but rohit has proved to be tactical and undestanding situations and has won both ipl and champions league titles in a year.

  • on February 23, 2014, 9:06 GMT

    Time for ian you to leave the world...this is not australia ...where we change captains or players.. we give them chances .. we don't have few legends like you...we have created legenss In every era ...produced stars that have won games all over the world...there a bad phases in every career.. don't tell him to leave alright...dhoni has achieved much more than any individual... don't be jealous...and handle australia only!!! . iNdian experts know dhoni is still the best person to lead India ...Virat Kohli is still a young gun ...nd with Dhoni around he will only lwarn more... I have very much respect for you...you have better I judgement than me ....but still dhoni is the roots to the Indian tree .....give him some more chances !!

  • on February 23, 2014, 8:55 GMT

    Yes. this is a good argue from chappel.And we no dhony is one of the best batsman in world cricket.So asia cup is a good way to decide who will caption india in world cup.but we know that both are in indian team for a long time. my test 11- 1.dawan 2.gambeer 3.pujara 4.kohli 5.rohith 6.rahane 7.dhony 8.jaddu 9.zakh 10.isanth 11.shami/irfan 12.karthik my wc 2015 team- 1.dawan 2.rahane 3.kohli 4.rohith 5.kathik 6.dhony 7.jaddu 8.irfan 9.bhuvi 10.vinay 11.shami 12.yuvi 13.raina 14.raydu 15.aswin my t20 11 -1.dawan 2.rahane 3.kohli 4.raina 5.yuvi 6.rohith 7.dhony 8.jaddu 9.irfan/bhuvi 10.vinay 11.shami 12.arthik

  • Joe-car on February 23, 2014, 8:25 GMT

    Ian, although I agree with you to a certain extend on Smith, I disagree that he's defensive. The way he used his bowlers on Friday evening and the bowling changes he made were proactive and commendable. The way Morkel was employed also was brilliant and I would argue that this is a side of Morkel that we haven't seen before. Pity Morkel is too nice for his own good and he'll revert back to his gentle self once this test has been relegated to the pages of history. Back to Smith, I think he's not given enough credit sometimes. I've always admired his use of Steyn for the majority of his career, especially the last five years or so.

  • on February 23, 2014, 8:15 GMT

    I didn't expect this kind of article from a former cricketer. Yes Dhoni has been a defensive captain. But with World Cup not far away, changing captains will only unsettle the team. What made Team India favorites to win WC 2011 was they were winning literally every ODI match and Test matches both in overseas and India as well.

    Now India needs to have a settle unit before WC. That looks possible only if Dhoni continues as captain in Test as well. The tour of England and Australia will truly tell us where Dhoni stands as captain. Perhaps he'll learn from his mistakes and come back. The thing is he should not favor certain players who are out of form and have them in the team

    Bring back the senior members. Gambhir, Sehwag. Vijay and Dhawan are flat track bullies, Sehwag and Gambhir can play in overseas as well. In addition pick a third opener. If Viru fails in warm-up match, have another opener who is also experienced at international level.

    Finally, the tour of ENG and AUS will tell

  • on February 23, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    very true ian! agree with you, Dhoni is not a good test captain or batsmen

  • roversgate on February 23, 2014, 8:12 GMT

    Agree on Dhoni being dropped as captain (and even wicketkeeper) for the test squad but disagree with Kohli taking over. Kohli is heavily relied on in both limited over formats and is now becoming the rock for test matches. It is crucial that he continue to maintain his form in all three games and captaincy will be too much for him because he is already playing a lot of games every year. I think Pujara is a much better option in the test format.

  • on February 23, 2014, 8:09 GMT

    Mr. Chappell, thanks for your consern about Indian cricket. Unfortunately BCCI n its boss don't bother about Dhoni performance. I doubt even they are thinking to replace him. Reasons are not unknown to anyone who know about the game that is played in closed rooms.Here decisions are not based on performance on cricket field but outside in corporate meeting.

  • fake_indian_player on February 23, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    Yes, it is write leave dhoni as test captain ,make kohli test captain he definetly became successful ,also leave ishant sharma and jadeja from all format because india playing worldcup on aus/nz not in india on turning pitch ,make raina as t20 captain because kohli has play lot of cricket his fiteness for world cup is importent he is sachine tendulker in wc2015 dhoni as odi captain is great .india must play odi with four pace option and if we wish to win wc2015 then back to senior like ojha,munaf patel,zaheerkhan,and irfan pathan. We must work on irfan because he bat on bouncy pitch. We must work on one fast bowler who give us strike in middle overs and break partenership i think umesh yadav is best as strike bowler zaheer is usefull as third seamer and in death overs because he has experince.ready irfan for allrounder option.and make munaf as second seamer for death bowlling because he is fit and not playing ipl also open batting with cheteswar and dhawan.

  • ImonG on February 23, 2014, 8:01 GMT

    Ask an Aussie who are the aggressive captains in the world, their list would probably have Border, Taylor, Waugh & Clarke. I don't see any other captain from any other parts of the world to qualify in that list. Lloyd to them was lucky to have 4 such quicks & Viv, Imran was lucky to have himself wasim waqar etc, but when it comes to Waugh & Mcgrath Lee Warne , or, Clarke & Johnson then you have a phrase like this " It's an over-simplification to say he's lucky to have Mitchell Johnson as a spearhead; the bowler is also fortunate to have a captain who enhances his chances of snaring victims." Dhoni & Cook as defensive test match captains .... ok understandle, even agree with that. But Smith !!!! absolute shocker. If there is one captain in the world who tends to stand up & lead the charge when ever the chips are down, it has been him. Oh yes, may be he is lucky to have a Steyn Morkel Philander, but hey Clarke isn't. Siddle & Johnson owes all their success to Clarkes aggression.

  • baskar_guha on February 23, 2014, 7:57 GMT

    Ian has made a flawed assumption. It may be the case that Dhoni is too conservative but he is not to be blamed for a toothless bowling attack which will struggle to take 20 wickets no matter who the captain is except on bowler-friendly attacks. Usually India has relied on its lead spinner to get a wicket when the partnership is ballooning -- Jadeja or Ashwin are not of that quality in overseas conditions. Making Virat a captain may have an adverse effect on his blossoming batsmanship especially if he has to constantly worry about why his bowlers can't get him wickets. India's main problem is getting a strike bowler or two for tests especially abroad. Until then they will struggle no matter who the captain is.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    Could n't agree with Ian more. Perhaps this will result in ending favoritism for some players and make them to come out of their comfort zone and fight for places in the Indian team. We must select the inform players, follow horses for courses policy for each test/ ODI based on ground and playing conditions. We should not shy away from dropping payers in the case of non performance after proving them enough opportunities . For God's sake we should play aggressively to win tests/ ODI and not to draw . We should not play with defensive approach/mindset and wait for opposition to make mistakes/ blunders.Hope new captain and some fresh blood infuses new dynamism and zeal to win more often .

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    @ Ian, Kohli needs a lot of years to be like Dhoni! And I don't think the space will be filled after Dhoni leave. He is a fighter!

    No wonder Kohli is an emerging star in cricket but let him emerge fully. Don't give him a lot of responsibilities which will effect his batting.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:53 GMT

    A liitle confused that you used Smith's name alongside Dhoni and Cook otherwise every word said in this article is correct. IMO, Dhoni should have gone after the defeat in Lords in 2011 itseld. That is the point. As a captain, as a batsman, Dhoni has never been abke to inspire his team with performances on the field. And if you cant do that, you have no right to be in the team, let alone captain it. Mr Chappel, even if Kohli does succeed as a captain, I m sure Dhoni will be sent to England and Australia. That is Indian cricket monopoly for you where fans and the betterment of the game are the least considered things. There is only 1 thing stopping this team from becoming the No 1 side and its not the bowling attack but the captain. I strongly wish the selectors see that but then again, I have been disappointed so many times!

  • ninjapintu on February 23, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    You really haven't see Kohli captain RCB in IPL have you? If he gets so irritated by small mistakes made by bowlers in 20 over cricket imagine what he will do to them over 5 days...

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:44 GMT

    Doni was very good playing under special arrangements ? in India. Put them out in the open under normal conditions they have flopped big time. Koli is one of the most arrogant, aggressive people we have seen. Time will tell.

  • dastunta on February 23, 2014, 7:39 GMT

    One bad series and England is making many changes. In India, change takes 8 years or until senior players retire.

    Besides the captaincy issue, India just can't produce serious fast bowlers. The current team has medium pacers who can perform in one innings and then they will fail in the next.

    BCCI, with all its money should be able to get some strong big guys and train them to bowl fast. I guess they are too busy with politics.

    Ian is right. Dhoni is not suited for test captaincy.

  • LoveTeamIndia on February 23, 2014, 7:39 GMT

    Agree with Ian Chappell 100%. If a new test captain is not found soon, India will keep going down in ranking. If Dhoni has to stay on as a captain, the Indian cricket board has to flex its muscles to make sure that spinning wickets are prepared in all countries.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    Ian as rightly said , it is time for Dhoni to shed his captainship.But he should step down captaining in all forms of Cricket. After the 2011-12 twin debacle with a trot of 8 consecutive losses to England & Australia,just to distract public attention he volunteered to step down as Captain in 2013.

    But with a few wins in home conditions and with the public memory being short, he continued.His track record in alien, seaming & bouncy pitches as in SA, NZ & Australia ,was quite dismal.

    For every failure, he used to offer some bizarre & stereo-type comments on poor performance from Batters, Bowlers & in Fielding, much to the chagrin of the huge passionate followers of Cricket ! But in the worst scenario, as in the recent drawn Test in NZ,he patted his bowlers, who in fact let India down, having been in the Driver's seat !

    But with Virat, with the thrust of Captaincy, are we going to lose his classical batting trait even in alien & adverse conditions, is the intriguing question !

  • Rahul_78 on February 23, 2014, 7:35 GMT

    There is no arguing a point that MS should be sacked as test captain. It will keep him fresh and challenged for the next world cup. One need to ask him "Does he really covet or cherish overseas test victories?" cause his captaincy record and style suggest otherwise. He simply lacks faith in his seamers in overseas conditions. He doesnt seem to be confident that his seamers will get him 20 wickets hence he gets defensive at the 1st presented opportunity and prefers his slower bowlers to hold one end up without taking any wickets. However I have a question mark over Kohli. This is a green batting line up with Virat as the only player with proven records in test cricket. He is too valuable for India at the moment as a batsmen and can India afford to loose his runs if captaincy effects his batting? Some one like Pujara can be a better choice at test level. Pujara has skippered Indian A sides. He comes across as a thinking cricketer. He has the making of a good thinking captain.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Very good views, the best beneficiary of such change will be Dhoni who can play and contribute more to this team. He can prolong his career successfully if he gives up captaincy at the right time which is now. Virat's form with the bat both overseas and domestic will make him a leader by example.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Indian selector dont have anything to say in this till the BCCI is headed by Srinivas

  • TengaZool on February 23, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    Yes, agreed - not with Kohli replacing Dhoni, but with the general analysis on how Dhoni has failed as a captain overseas. India, apart from Ganguly, never had an out-of-the-box thinking kind of Test captain. Having said that, you would find that most Captains are excelling at home and struggling overseas. What intelligent field placings did our very own Clarkey come up with when Australia was getting hammered in India? What doesn't work in Dhoni's favour is that he has lost or drawn games that he could have potentially won overseas. I would say that the onus lies on the coach and the board to suggest to Dhoni that he present a new fresh strategy for overseas tests. If he comes up with one, give him the chance to execute it in a couple of overseas test tours. If all goes well, Dhoni stays. If not, he goes.

  • chinna151287 on February 23, 2014, 7:22 GMT

    fast bowlers need proper resting by rotation policy so that they don't get injured quiet often and most important thing for fast bowlers is skillfulness like inswing,outswing,reverse swing,yorkers,short pitch bowling with intensity. for this they need to keep their body fit and perfectly in shape.They need best bowling coach who can make them have all these qualities according to my opinion Glenn Mcgrath or Wasim akram or waqar are the best options

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:21 GMT

    "He's at his best with spinners operating regularly, whereas when conditions are more in tune with seamers he struggles."

    that is coz he has world class spinners who do well at home in favorable conditions.

    But the bowlers are not of world class stadards. When was the last time zaheer khan won india a Test match? or any fast bowler made India win a test match.

    I have seen Kumble,Harbhajan and other spinners win test macthes never the fast bowlers.

    Indian fast bolwers are just not good enough to take 20 wickets.

    I agree dhoni gets defensive but he doesn't have a choice here. He doesn't have MJ or Steyn.

    What is Virat Kohli going to do??? He is a good leader but not better than Dhoni and is still inexperienced to lead a Test side. India needs one world class bowler (STRIKE BOWLER) who'll consistently pick wickets when needed.

    In ODI's and T20's ,you can get away with a mediocre bowling attack but in test matches , its the bolwers who win you games (by taking 20 wickets)

  • indianpunter on February 23, 2014, 7:17 GMT

    Sadly, in India, we are like this only, Ian. India needs fresh ideas and new thinking. Time to bin Fletcher, the invisible coach and Dhoni, the test captain. He can still capt the ODI team till 2015. However, i predict Fletch will be retained till WC 2015, as we Indians like status quo. I have tremendous respect for the aussie team management, who sacked Mickey Arthur, 3 days before the start of the Ashes series. And the results are there for all to see. There is never a wrong time to do the right thing.

  • chinna151287 on February 23, 2014, 7:16 GMT

    i agree with what ian chappell said but we good bowlers, batsmen and fielders to win matches consistently.for that purpose batsmen have tackle their weakness for example suresh raina have problem with short pitch bowling for this he should follow the technique used by justin langer or mathew hayden, see they judge the line nicely and get into the line of the ball and then pull the ball with wrist rolling over so they are good example of best left handed pullers while short pitch bowling.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:15 GMT

    Ian is echoing the thoughts of many indian fans. Also should be noted is dhoni's horrific keeping. It just does not cut it at the international level. also he stays too far back, which the inexperienced slip fielders follow leading to many edges falling short on even the most responsive pitches. India need to move past Zak now, he has been a great servant of indian cricket for a good while. He should be applauded for his perseverance and heart in recent times more than ever. I remember him touching 138-140 on the 5th day at wellington trying to get mccullum (a speed which he has not touched since mid-late 00's). While that would work for a 2 game series, i doubt his fitness will hold up through the english summer.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:15 GMT

    While Ian Chappell is right about certain aspects regarding Dhoni, but I differ on other points. Dhoni is good no doubt. Regarding away matches, specially Australia, how many Indian Captains have been successful? We also need to look at it from the other side. How many Australian Captains have been successful overseas? And why blame the Indian conditions only? Why does not ICC standardize "The Pitch" (I don't mean the climate). There should be specified criteria such as sand%, silt%, clay%, elasticity of the pitch 'soil', hardness of the pitch, etc. That should go a long way in resolving pitch issues, at least. And I don't understand India's reluctance, or rather refusal to go for Review system. What are they afraid of? After all, the umpires are still in charge.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:11 GMT

    I won't agree with Chappell on Clarke better captain than Dhoni. If he was so good captain then he wouldn't lost 4-0 in India and 3-1 in England. Said that Dhoni is also not a good captain in longer format. Problem is no Indian captain trust on their batting which is/was world class to bat two good innings in test matches. They trust their mediocre bowling to take 20 wickets. I can understand 4 bowlers logic if you have Steyn, Johnson, Ajmal kind of strike bowlers. India we no spearhead needs 5 good bowlers. Infact extra batsman padding takes away sincerity from batsman knowing we have long list to follow. With 5 technical sound batsman + batting keeper and 5 good bowlers gives you right edge. There is no point in scoring 400 runs and then giving 600 runs.. its much better to score 300 and defend it....

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:07 GMT

    Chappel is right but it won't happen. If entire cricket world, ICC can not go against Srinivasan then Indian selectors can do that?! He is brsnd of Chennai Super Kings of Srinivasan company. Removing Dhoni from captaincy will have massive blow on its business. So there is less chance of removing him from even test captaincy.

  • on February 23, 2014, 7:03 GMT

    Ian, you have said what almost whole lot of Indian supporters are saying including myself. Even our ex-players have started to come in open against Dhoni's tactics or lack of it. One aggressive captain with better team selection could have seen us winning a test in SA and may be a series in NZ. We still could have lost but not due to lack of efforts or tactical planning. We do not need a captain like Clark who is more like a gambler but blessed with finest attack (reinvented Mitch). Smith too had a great attack. Cook, when his bowlers were taking wickets in helpful or even not so helpful conditions, did better and fell apart when they did not. Someone like Mac from NZ is what we are looking for. His bowling attack, not great, not fearsome, just plain regular good attack made more dangerous because captain give them desirable fields. Our attack is pathetic, but surprisingly they bowled much much better in NZ (2 sub 200 +dropped catches) But once Mc & BJ dug in, Dhoni was out of plan.

  • BradmanBestEver on February 23, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    Well said Mr Chappell and not a moment too soon. The writing has been on the wall for some time though no-one has come out and said anything until now

  • on February 23, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    This is an extra burden on Kohli which might affect his batting. We don';t know yet, Time will tell. But we don't have other candidates who have leadership experience.

  • venkatesh018 on February 23, 2014, 6:57 GMT

    Ian, it is just a question of priorities. What does BCCI care more about- protecting Brand Dhoni or the national team getting better in Test Match cricket.The answer to this will reveal who will lead the Indian Test team against England in the Five Test series this June.

  • on February 23, 2014, 6:54 GMT

    dhoni must resign as test captain for the betterment of indian cricket.........he is the most negative captain of the world at the moment as far as test cricket

  • PraveenPrathapChandran on February 23, 2014, 6:54 GMT

    Dhoni's over dependency on spinners or in other way lack of confidence in pace bowlers cost us many overseas test series.The legacy marvelled by Ganguly and Dravid by trusting reasonably good young pace bowlers was put aside by Dhoni, by going back to our age old predictable strtegy of spinning the web.Dhoni should have learnt something from these two, while planning the pace bowling strategies.Plenty of examples, fielding 3 left arm pace bowlers in playing elven by dravid at Karachi, Sreesanth winning test match at j'burg, RP winnig MOM at Pindi, Ganguly trusting his pace trio Zak-Sri-Ash in 2003 SA world cup, the way dada utilised a young immature bowling unit down under in 2003 levelling the test sries, Dravid winning Pataudi trophy in ENG 2007, and many more...unfirtunately Ishant,Umesh etc bowlers with abilities are not trusted enough by captain an now see the results.God same shall not happen with Shami...Bring in a man who likes pace bowlers...a man who dares to use pace bowlers

  • sarangsrk on February 23, 2014, 6:54 GMT

    Spot on, Mr. Chappell. Apart from the defensive approach that Dhoni adapts overseas, I don't see he or the coach planning too well in advance for tough tours like these. Indian team's planning for WC 2011 started about 1.5 years before the cup and it showed in the readiness of the players like Kohli, Raina. I didn't see any of the Indian batsmen going for a county contract before england series of 2011 or other tours. The other flaw that I see is Dhoni simply doesn't trust Ojha. He reckons Ojha is good in India but not outside. Ojha would have made the difference in Jo'berg and Wellington tests. Dhoni doesn't seem to have the required focus for tests as he himself said that his biggest disappointment has been India crashing out of WC 2007 and not 8-0 drubbing. The issue has been suitable replacement for him and I think Kohli can do this job though the only concern is his batting should not get impacted by captaincy burden.

  • supacricfan on February 23, 2014, 6:41 GMT

    Spot on Mr.chappell..kohli shud be given a go at captaincy!

  • Joe-car on February 23, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    Ian, although I agree with you to a certain extend on Smith, I disagree that he's defensive. The way he used his bowlers on Friday evening and the bowling changes he made were proactive and commendable. The way Morkel was employed also was brilliant and I would argue that this is a side of Morkel that we haven't seen before. Pity Morkel is too nice for his own good and he'll revert back to his gentle self once this test has been relegated to the pages of history. Back to Smith, I think he's not given enough credit sometimes. I've always admired his use of Steyn for the majority of his career, especially the last five years or so.

  • batman_gothamcity on February 23, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    Perfectly pointed by Ian Chappel @ Dhoni's captaincy .Dhoni should really ponder that how India from winning 1st Test in SA and 2nd Test in NZ finally ended in a Draw . He seems to be in fatigue of captaincy as his team selection shows , you need to take 20 wkts to win a test and if you play with 3 seamers with Ashwin/Jadega as a lone spinner it gives very low probability of a win . Virat can now captain in T20 so that Dhoni 's mind and ideas are refreshed.

  • yogikanna on February 23, 2014, 6:30 GMT

    I agree with Ian that Dhoni has been a disastrous test captain especially under overseas conditions. However, I am not so sure that Kohli has the maturity and temperament required to don the top hat just yet. He often loses his cool and becomes emotional at the slightest instigation by the opposition or the spectators. In this regard, Mr. cool Dhoni's has excelled to keep his composure under challenging circumstances. If Kohli can show some maturity in character, perhaps he can replace Dhoni, especially in longer format of the game, and maybe later in the shorter form as well.

  • on February 23, 2014, 6:27 GMT

    If we want to replace MSD, then I think Rohit Sharma is better choice than Virat for ODIs & T20s atleast. No doubt Virat is currently best batsman we are having. But after watching his leadership abilities in big tournaments IPL etc, anybody can compare his leadership ability with Rohit. Last IPL final it was Rohits leadership responcible for victry over CSK. Malinga was shaded off entire tournament, but it Rohits decision to brought him as opening bowler & got huge wickets of Hussey & Raina. On the other hand we saw so many times Virat lost his cool at crucial times. He is a bit impatient. Small small things can easily attack on his cool. Rohit is perfectely captain material, even Virat too has agreed. He has cool mind. And we saw his performance under leadership respocibilty. He performs verywell to when respocibilty given to him. In Asia cup extra burden of leadership may affect Virats batting performance too. I am not critisising Virat. In fact I am a big fan of Virat. ATB India

  • Cricket_Is_Oxygen on February 23, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    While i agree to some of the points.. I don't agree with the point that Clarke is an aggresive captain.. Clarke was an entirely different captain against India in India and The Ashes in England.. Only when he found a bowler in Johnson he was aggressive.. The emergence of Johnson made Siddle and Harris an entirely different commodity.. This made Clarke from a defensive captain to an attacking one.. This is the same with MS Dhoni when he sees Ashwin & Ojha turning he sets an entirely aggressive field.. You can't expect a captain to set a field which has three slips and a gully when Ishant Sharma bowls a middle and leg line always and Zak keeps pitching it short often.. Mohammed Shami was the only one who looked like picking wickets and Dhoni was setting attacks fields to him..Incase if Dhoni finds a bowler like Dale Steyn or Mitchell Johnson(which is most unlikely to happen) Dhoni too will be an aggressive captain..

  • on February 23, 2014, 6:22 GMT

    what if kohli fails?? dhoni should change his strategy to be a better captain.let kohli concentrate on his batting.

  • on February 23, 2014, 6:18 GMT

    True on Dhonis captaincy. As a fan, some of his decisions in test cricket is so irritating it force us to switch off the TV sets

  • anil.b on February 23, 2014, 6:13 GMT

    How quickly fortunes change. It was just yesterday that Dhoni could never be wrong and now he goes and loses so many series abroad one after another. They say he has gone soft. What resulted in the change ? perhaps he is too satiated. No hunger. Money, adulation fame ..he has seen it all. And i thought he was a hunter whose drive for the country over ruled all those. i guess one last chance to prove he is still there and then he will be consigned to history.

  • Joe-car on February 23, 2014, 6:10 GMT

    Ian, although I agree with you to a certain extend on Smith, I disagree that he's defensive. The way he used his bowlers on Friday evening and the bowling changes he made were proactive and commendable. The way Morkel was employed also was brilliant and I would argue that this is a side of Morkel that we haven't seen before. Pity Morkel is too nice for his own good and he'll revert back to his gentle self once this test has been relegated to the pages of history. Back to Smith, I think he's not given enough credit sometimes. I've always admired his use of Steyn for the majority of his career, especially the last five years or so.

  • on February 23, 2014, 6:07 GMT

    Srinavasan will never dethrone MSD even if maintain his overseas losing streak against quality opposition .

  • muzika_tchaikovskogo on February 23, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    I'm 100% with Ian Chappel on this one. Dhoni's ultra defensive captaincy has let countless opponents off the hook.

  • spinkingKK on February 23, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    Well said Ian Chappell. He just hit the nail on its head. The fact is, Dhoni was never ever a good test captain, home or away. Even in the home test matches, it is not good to keep the runs down, rather than attacking. May be that is why they lost to England at home. When the conditions suit your bowlers and when the opposition batsmen are under pressure, you can't just resort to saving runs, no matter where you are playing. Attack and if your bowlers and fielders are not good enough, just cope it. Play the game sportively. Let the better team on the day/session take the honors. If the opposition are up to anything you throw at them, then they are worthy winners and just move on. In ODI's your prime aim is to concede less runs and then it's alright to save runs. Indian selectors used to take aggressive approach before. But, lately they've been very conservative with the BIG 4 and Dhoni.

  • on February 23, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    I completely endorse this article not only because Ian Chappell has been an illustrious captain but our past experiences tells us that we tend to leave things to drift along too often. Kris Srikanth selection committee is guilty of continuing with a failing batting order for too long and now we are making the same mistake. Unless politics interfere, I expect this Sandip Patil selection committee to show more teeth than the previous one. They have already shown they mean business by dropping Sehwag, Harbhajan, Gambhir and Yuvraj. But captaincy is a different ball game! Are the selectors game for it ??

  • SLSup on February 23, 2014, 5:49 GMT

    Much Ado About Nothing.

    Don't see the point in comparing Clarke and Dhoni who've led two Test sides with mixed results aiming for a commendable second place ranking and all Ian can think of is glorifying Clarke and nullifying Dhoni?

    When you take a game or a series, one team cannot be said to have done great without considering the other team doing relatively poor. Just cos the Brits did bad in Australia Clarke is now mysteriously awesome compared to Dhoni? How so? I recall Clarke being glorified for his "attacking play" even in England when Aussies lost the series there! Wonder if Ian Chappell considered how Border's transitional captaincy compare with Dhoni's at the current phase of Indian cricket. Equally good if not better I'd say!

    What India has now is a migraine. The best solution Ian Chappell has is to suggest a change in pillows? A fortuitous injury. Didn't see that coming!

  • JaneSays on February 23, 2014, 5:37 GMT

    For once I agree with Ian Chappell. Am sick of hearing how great Michael Clarke is, in his articles though

  • on February 23, 2014, 5:30 GMT

    Well said Ian, MSD defensive started hurting team like anything. Indian over seas improvind started improving during Dada's tenure some how MSD also enjoyed some of it. But currently he is out of ideas and he is not having any trust with his fast bowlers. He is also so reluctance to continue with the wayward spinners like Ashwin and Jadeja, they don't have much varities to become a consitent wicket takers in tests. If he continue as a captain in over seas we will loose more matches it will demote the team's progress.

  • cricpanther on February 23, 2014, 5:29 GMT

    Sir Ian Chappell is absolutely right for Dhoni to go. Virat is good choice but I am not understanding why only Virat is the next choice?? What is wrong with Gambhir or Raina? They are also a leader and they can lead the team. Even Sehwag can be good captain. Kohli has plenty of time left to become captain eventually.

  • srinivasulu.adiraju on February 23, 2014, 5:25 GMT

    I think, with all respect, Ian is wrong. He always remember a team worst patch to comment on captain. He is praising AUS captain now. But I suppose he forgot that this same captain was present when AUS lost to Same England team just few months ago and the margin was 3-1! India performance was not that bad in New Zealand tests. We had first test under control when almost 4 decisions were against Batsmen while chasing. Result lost by 40 odd runs. In second test, it was a different issue. We were able to all out a team under 250 first time. This is good point. But what were anyone supposed to expect from home team. The resistance showed by home team is a good. Good courage showed and result is draw but not lost test for India. The result is better than AUS losing good controlled test to INDIA in 2001 in KOLKATA. Will he criticize STEVE for that loss? Will he do same comment on Clarke if he goes on to loose test series in SA?

    I hope my comments are posted this time around. ATB!

  • ThemanID on February 23, 2014, 5:23 GMT

    So true. Kohli might be a disaster, but we already have a failure as a captain so what do we have to lose.

  • on February 23, 2014, 5:19 GMT

    ABSOLUTE NONSENCE. how can a captain be blamed when bowlers doesnt have ability to take 10 wickets in a innings in foreign conditions or bowl aggresively in a consistent manner. how can a nature of captancy change in different conditions(home & foreign). the difference here is michael clarke is successful since he asa aggressive bowler like johnson in his side.so i think dhoni is not the culprit in this failure. the only solution fof this is we need to find or train quality fast bowlers who can run through the opposition or atleadt bowl aggresively in the given condition.

  • on February 23, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    He's nothing special as a limited overs captain either. He was just fortunate to have serious talent in his squad like Sehwag, Yuvraj, Sachin and Harbajhan. The limited overs team is still a very strong one so he'll still win games. It's easy to captain for 50-overs. Give me the above names in my squad and i'll captain India to as many, if not more victories.

  • on February 23, 2014, 5:12 GMT

    I cannot agree more with you Ian, Dhoni's injury is a blessing in disguise for the Indian team. Hopefully under Kohli's captaincy, the Indian team shall do well for the selectors to get confidence and replace Dhoni as the captain at least in the Tests. In shorter formats he can still continue if required till world cup. Even as a player I think Dhoni's batting in overseas condition isn't great in Tests. I would replace Dhoni with Karthik in Tests who has done very well as opener in England in Tests. Knowing our selectors I would not be surprised if they do the opposite and replace Dhoni as captain in ODI and T20. Keeping my fingers crossed that Sandeep Patil and co. understand the importance of tests and take an much required action in the positive direction.

  • on February 23, 2014, 5:11 GMT

    Whats the main difference in Dhoni leadership post 2011 wc and what was before 2011 as India was no. 1 side before wc.

  • nikkam on February 23, 2014, 5:06 GMT

    the debate continues who is a better test captain and it is no fault of cook and dhoni that they are not aggressive. Also only aggressiveness cannot guarantee success if you dont have the team to pull it off. In that sense dhoni is handicapped as in two instances against SA and NZ the bowlers were unable to finish off the tests against opposition batsmen who were under pressure. In india it would have been simple with two effective spinners. Even australia in the transition stage struggled to dominate critical stages and failed. Every team has its own negatives which get amplified in certain conditions and we need to be aware that home teams are becoming increasingly formidable in their own conditions and result in one sided contests. That india came close to winning two tests against SA and NZ is a small improvement. Rather than changing the captain, the team composition to reflect the conditions needs to be chosen such that the captain is more confident of the bowling attack.

  • Hasun888 on February 23, 2014, 5:00 GMT

    Dhoni still needs to groom these men for another 2 to 3 years...he has so much knowledge to give on to these guys...after they had the full experience of away and home games with Dhoni...they will be in a better position...Kholi is not ready to lead young men that are all his age...if they think to look beyond Dhoni, it will be their biggest mistake...Dhoni has been a major part of a very good transition for team India...he needs time to put all the pieces together...who really thinks Kholi will win with the same resources as Dhoni???...look at Dhoni's CSK and Kholi's RCB...Dhoni changed himself to make India what it is...he sacrificed personal fame for India...

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:59 GMT

    In principle, I agree. However, Kohli has a long way to go in order to mature as a test batsman. It'd be disastrous if his batting prowess tapered off due to the burdens of captaincy. India is unique in producing lots of batsmen whose batting has been trashed by the captaincy. India can't afford for Kohli's batting not to keep improving.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:57 GMT

    fantastic piece!!!! so true

  • Praxis on February 23, 2014, 4:53 GMT

    Chappell has always been a vocal critic of Dhoni's captaincy & fairly so. This is hurting India, they have the batsmen & some decent bowlers, only if the captain was good enough. He's a good captain in all formats, great in shorter ones. But one would argue that Dhoni's past his prime & a lot more defensive. Test cricket changed a lot recently, drawn matches are less frequent. This captaincy style isn't working.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    Lack of faith in bowlers is not solely Dhoni's fault.I don't think Kohli is ready for test captaincy.Why is Chappell & Co..so interested in getting Dhoni's wicket?

  • dnsvija on February 23, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    It is a golden opportunity for Kohli to lead Indian team. I feel we need an aggressive captain. He has to be proactive and not reactive and defensive. I feel Dhoni was one such as a captain and as batsman and a wicket keeper he is very aggressive. Unfortunately he did not carry that trait to his captaincy. Only when his aggressive instincts came forward, he was successful as a captain. But those instances were few and far between. Kohli need to set aggressive fields and take some risks. He should not leak runs by giving away singles while protecting boundaries. boundaries will always come whenever the field placements are defensive. we should have a third man right thru the opposition batting periods...Also our off spinners need to maintain an off stump line and the leg spinners maintain a leg stump line....and our line of attack of pacers need to be off stump besides either good length or a short of full length.....short pitched stuff used rarely ... once in two overs or so...

  • Hardy1 on February 23, 2014, 4:45 GMT

    It is a good chance for Kohli to show his mettle although as an Indian fan I would much rather have seen Dhoni there seeing as he captains very well in the short forms of the game & in familiar conditions, not to mention the fact that he's one of the best ODI batsmen in the world. Realistically Rohit & Pujara are the only two choices apart from Kohli to captain the team going forward. Rohit hasn't yet properly cemented his place but would probably be a good option seeing as he leads Mumbai Indians & his Ranji team too now. Don't think Pujara has any experience but he looks like a nailed on fixture in the Indian side for several years to come. Dhawan will lead his IPL team this year & the only other potential options are Jadeja & Ashwin. Clearly Kohli's in pole position but it's hard to see someone apart from MSD leading even the Test side before the 2015 world cup, unless Kohli does exceedingly well in the Asia cup.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:43 GMT

    Clarke has Mitch, Siddle, and Harris at his disposal. Look at the bench strength he has got in Starc, Cummins, Mckay and co. Compare this to what dhoni has got. A Ishant, Shami, Zaheer. Even the spinner's department has declined now. Whoever captains India is gonna struggle with such a miserable bowling lineup.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:34 GMT

    Fully agree with Ian here. Only difference, I feel Dhoni should be shown the door both as a player and a captain now, with still one year to go to the World Cup

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:31 GMT

    India is planning for world cup and they don't want to expose their plans right now, they are finding weaknesses of all top oppositions and shows their fake weaknesses in every match to make opposition under prepare for them during world cup. They will dominate world cup like champions trophy. I hope this is their plan...

  • rar_ind on February 23, 2014, 4:31 GMT

    Chappell is right. MSD is way past expiry date as test captain. He is too defensive and not creative enough to challenge opposition teams in foreign conditions. He is undoubtedly India's best limited overs captain but he is nowhere near the best in tests. The ability that Ganguly had in making great players out of youngsters who would excel in away tests during his time as captain is another thing that MSD lacks, apart from being an unimaginative, defensive and reactive skipper. Kohli seems to be an obvious choice. They can even try Pujara as he has done well in local domestic teams.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:30 GMT

    for once I agree with chappell completely... Clarke has come in for criticism many times due to his bold decisions on field but he s been able to build a good team with his plan ... I have never seen dhoni make an aggressive declaration even once ! its almost like the draw is the first priority and if victory comes inevitably they accept it! this theory will lead to many more defeats abroad for India... having said that its tough for an INDIAN skipper to adopt a stand like Clarke because people here tend to give knee jerk reactions to change - in case dhoni loses more badly by being aggressive he l be crucified by Indian media ! maybe that's y he never wants to take a risk to lose it all...

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:27 GMT

    As a spectator and a keen follower of the game, I would like chances be given to people who show results and keenness to succeed.

    Dhoni has failed miserably as a test captain. He not giving any chance to new comers is not acceptable. They all worked hard to reach international level. It cannot be left to Dhoni's gut feel and fondness for his buddies.

    Kohli is ready. He needs to be tried, before his fire runs out. Dhoni should be dropped and replaced with Delhi franchise keeper. Poor guy never gets a chance, inspite of being so good.

    Dhoni needs to be outside of test team and focus on One-days and T20. But given his casual attitude, I am pretty positive that India will put up a very bad show. I think is SA time to win the WC. NZ is the dark horse here. India the duds.

  • barryrichardsfan on February 23, 2014, 4:22 GMT

    Right on money, Ian! I've been following Clarke's field placings in the ongoing test series with Saffers, especially when a new batter comes. No doubt he has got the class in his bowlers to do that, but that kind of thing brings energy on to all the boys. Dhoni walks of onto the field with a containing mindset. He loses half the battle before it even starts, which is not acceptable in test cricket. As Dravid said you've got to take risks, if your bowlers are not competent enough, show them the door. Ishant Sharma despite his inadequecies has been carried for 50 odd tests. There are good enough replacements Mr Dhoni, you've got to believe that.

  • InsideHedge on February 23, 2014, 4:21 GMT

    Excellent article again. I wrote a comment a few days back where I mentioned that if the current ODI fielding restrictions were in place for the 2011 World Cup, we may NOT have won it.

    The new rules force a captain to be aggressive. In the just concluded ODI series between NZ and India, McCullum regularly went for broke, often bowling his main bowlers out long before the end in the hope of removing India's main threats.

    Of course, it helped that these days if you get India at 7 down, you've pretty much bowled them all out as the young bowlers in our tail can't bat to save their lives. They're not good fielders either which is shocking for any 20-something player in modern cricket.

    Dhoni, meanwhile, is predictable to a tee: he'll bring Buvneshwar and Shami to bowl the last 6 overs of an inns. Both will go for plenty, esp Bhuvi who's far more effective at the top end of an innings. However, Dhoni can't think unconventionally and look to bowl him out early.

    Fully agree, he HAS to go.

  • YogifromNY on February 23, 2014, 4:15 GMT

    Ian, you are on the money here. I have been a Dhoni supporter for long but it is indeed time for him to go as a Test captain (and even a Test player). Bring in Dinesh Karthik as wk - he is a top order batsman with good technique too. And in a few years' time there will be Sanju Samson waiting, esp as he will play for some time under the peerless Rahul Dravid.

  • Sukruti on February 23, 2014, 4:09 GMT

    This is a very well articulated column by Ian Chappell. Yes, killer instinct, the hunger to win are definitely lacking in this Indian team while touring away. Away tests victories are always sweet and I feel losing while putting up a fight is far better than losing without fight or meeking surrendering for a draw. It is very hard to understand to allow a batsman of Brendon McCullum's calibre (not to take away his credit) and a fresher Watling to pile up so many runs. Macca is not known for his test batting and he is more of ODI & T20 style player. India could have shown much better results in recent SA and NZ tours had the had a fighting captain than a conservative captain. Moreover, India should develop disciplined bowlers who could hit the good lengths and line consistently rather than raw pace with lots of inconsistency. They should seek world class players like Shaun Pollock, Glenn McGrath etc as bowling coaches rather than county or first class players and also agressive coaches.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    Interesting article from Ian Chappel, especiaaly because he was the first one, on this site, to say Dhoni should be made the test captain. I think it was during a test against Australia and the title of the article was "Give it to the keeper"

    Yes, all of us can change our opinions based on how things transpire and kudos to Chappel for willing to change his opinion. It is indeed time for India to find a new test captain. Dhoni has lacked the imagination and proactiveness required of a captain for a long time now and it is hurting India.

  • on February 23, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    very rightly said by Chappel.But I would like to consider kohli's opinion whether he is ready to handle the test captaincy. And we have pujara also to take the reign. So all in all I'm also convinced that Dhoni's shelflife as a captain is over and I've also doubt about his batting in test outside India.

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:55 GMT

    Could not agree more with Chappelli! India needs an aggressive captain in test match cricket, Dhoni is too defensive which makes India's weak bowling attack look even more poor. Dhoni certainly has lost faith in his fast bowlers. Ironically, believing in his fast bowlers made Dhoni a good captain - remember 20-20 WC final or more recently Champ trophy?

  • Knightsreejith on February 23, 2014, 3:47 GMT

    Add to the captaincy woes,MSD's performance outside Asia has been dismal.While Clarke,Mccullum and others having scored runs outside home,MSD's place in Test squad as a batsman/keeper should also be questioned.Dinesh Kathik got a better technique than MSD and can be a sure bet to replace Dhoni in Tests.And those who points out that lack of seam bowlers is the reason for Indian downfall,don't forget India never had the luxury of playing a fast bowler who can take wickets at will during the tenure of Ganguly/Dravid/Kumble.Yet we won matches outside Asia bcause those captains had a vision set in the field.Also,the coach should also be held accountable for the losses.Bring someone like Ganguly as coach,Kohli as captain and Karthik/Sanju Samson as coach.Let some aggressive leadership come at the top.MSD should continue in ODIs and aim for next WC.

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:47 GMT

    Excellent Article, what other Test Captain would have been given such a long rope, its disgraceful. Dhoni should have been removed from the Test team along time ago, he's not contributed with the bat at all overseas, he has only one gear which is to go hammer and tong, this sort of thing works 1 in 100 times.

  • Adam_Leban on February 23, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    Kohli will be found out as well mate. Huge difference in captaining a side in india, where pitches are basically dust bowls. To win matches overseas, you need wicket taking bowlers, excellent fielders and good batting. The less you say about India's bowling and fielding the better and even the batting can flip n flop, depending on the pitch. I would still back Dhoni mate.

  • DipsoManiac on February 23, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    While I totally agree with Ian's comments regarding Dhoni's defensive tactics, I am not so sure about Kohli's credentials as captain in longer format of the game. I've always maintained that Dhoni is amongst the most tactically poor test captains in recent times. He likes to control runs and waits for batsmen to make mistakes. Even in the series that we won at home, like the two match test series against Australia when Laxman played those glorious innings and the one against south Africa, Dhoni made tactical errors which almost cost us the series. India was in good positions in both Australia and England and then Dhoni made critical errors by waiting for batmen to make mistakes abs India lost the momentum. He should have been sacked after those tours. Gautam Gambhir could have been a good option but I am willing to take a chance with Kohli. Dhoni is well past his "use by" date. In fact, I've got so frustrated with his captaincy that I have stopped watching Indian tests.

  • DipsoManiac on February 23, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    While I totally agree with Ian's comments regarding Dhoni's defensive tactics, I am not so sure about Kohli's credentials as captain in longer format of the game. I've always maintained that Dhoni is amongst the most tactically poor test captains in recent times. He likes to control runs and waits for batsmen to make mistakes. Even in the series that we won at home, like the two match test series against Australia when Laxman played those glorious innings and the one against south Africa, Dhoni made tactical errors which almost cost us the series. India was in good positions in both Australia and England and then Dhoni made critical errors by waiting for batmen to make mistakes abs India lost the momentum. He should have been sacked after those tours. Gautam Gambhir could have been a good option but I am willing to take a chance with Kohli. Dhoni is well past his "use by" date. In fact, I've got so frustrated with his captaincy that I have stopped watching Indian tests.

  • natasrik on February 23, 2014, 3:27 GMT

    Ian writes another article and praises Clarke over Ponting. I am not sure what makes him think that way, he forgot the Clarke was given a 4-0 whitewash by Dhoni and Co followed by thrashing from England in England. The last ashes which australia won in Australia has more to do with English team internal trouble which any international team cannot take it when guys leaving the tour halfway. I am sure with lot of trouble makers out of the English side they will come out strong. As far as Dhoni is concerned he did made few mistakes but the 8-0 drubbing he got was with legends in the team and in this connection the SA AND NZ series was much better atleast they made a fight and almost delivered if not for some stupid umpire decisions on the field in SA and possible the worst catching seen in the recent past from the Indian team in NZ. Virat probably playing the best cricket as of now and I feel India need Virat more as a batsman rather than burden him with captaincy.

  • BangbangKohli on February 23, 2014, 3:22 GMT

    Absolutely, he needs to go now, too defensive, passive and failed to motivate the team. He looks clueless and have poor strategies. Agree he is a good finisher but only in one days.

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:20 GMT

    excellent!!!!...spot on!!!!...virat seems to be settled in the test team n he looks a guy ready for new challenges..n its worth a try to hand him the test captaincy..as dhoni has a horrendous record overseas..moreover his batting form in tests is also a concern..he does not have a test century outside the subcontinent..world cup wins in odis n t20s cant be the parameters for test selection...but i dnt think dis is gonna happen..coz its nt team india,.its team csk or say team sriinivasan..n dhoni will be tha captain as long as he wishes..may be corruption is haunting india everywhere..one day all the die hard indian cricket fans are gonna go away from the game because of this hypocrisy!!!..

  • Sir_Francis on February 23, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    He lost me with his attack on Smith. SA have, statistically, the 2 best quicks in the world. Surely Smith's captaincy plays a part. If not, Chappell is hypocritical. Unless he thinks Steyn & Philander would be even better under a Clarke?

  • Collegefastbowler on February 23, 2014, 3:09 GMT

    "Johnson wouldn't be as successful under the conservative leadership styles of Dhoni, Graeme Smith or Alastair Cook."

    That one sentence says it all. That is the crux of the problem - the overly defensive approach by Dhoni. He is in his comfort zone at home with the spinners operating on helpful tracks. But the same tactics will not work abroad and for some obscure reason he becomes very defensive where pace bowling is required. He keeps the best bowlers on the bench and resorts to using an experienced trio of medium pace trundlers whose role is to contain the runs and let the batsmen make mistakes. He should be attacking with bowlers of real penetration. Varun Aaron who was bowling well in the 150s was dropped and the wayward Ishant and the over the hill Zaheer were persisted with because they were seen as safe bets purely due to their experience.

    On the England tour he had called the unfit and over weight R.P. Singh from vacation in the Windies while Yadav cooled his heels.

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:04 GMT

    Yes...get rid of Dhobi...we can do better...someone hard and gritty. Also say bye to Zaheer and Ishant. Replace with Yadav and V Aaron. This should have been done years ago..

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:03 GMT

    The thing with indian pitches is that you just cant bowl seam up. As a bowler, if u just run in hard and hit the deck hard at good length it wont do anything in indian pitch.The bowler retorts to other methods like slower ones and changing the lengths often. If you gotta take a wicket in test match(outside india),Then you must bowl like the australian or south african unit where one or two bowler is being very hostile ( like steyn,johnson or morkel) while the other bowlers must stop the flow of runs and frustrate the batsmen by bowling in a consistent line and length( like philander,harris,siddle and not to mention watson)now just see the indian attack tell me whether we have any bowler in any category.And frankly i dont want to trouble kohli's form with captaincy now.Its not captaincy which failed, us in overseas,its the bowlers and money minded approach of the administrators in bcci which is failing us in overseas.

  • on February 23, 2014, 2:51 GMT

    i guess people are more reactive than pro-active.This indian bowling unit cannot take 20 wickets whoever the captain is,if you ask ricky ponting to be the captain of this indian unit,he will vent his anger and frustration in press conference.You have the Indian administrators helping every other team except India by playing IPL every year and not allowing our players to play in there leagues or county cricket.Take for example,Yuvraj singh,he was dropped for asia cup,but still he plays for a hapless corporate tournament instead of having a contract with a county. I guess many clubs in big bash league would love to sign a contract with yuvraj singh.But he and the BCCi wants to play in these hapless indian pitches and get his form back.this is has been the problem with bowlers. zaheer rediscovered himself after a succesful stint in county cricket not by playing ranji trophy or irani trophy

  • MaruthuDelft on February 23, 2014, 2:44 GMT

    India needs Kohli for batting in all formats. India can't risk him. Don't touch Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. The failed ones are better choice as interim captains. Sharma, Raina or Ashwin. Ashwin has articulate English, useful batting, his failed off spin but has an attacking mindset. Raina too is an aggressive cricketer. Sleeping Nohit....well I don't know! Once India unearths another Kohli Kohli can take over as the inspiring India captain.

  • MaruthuDelft on February 23, 2014, 2:44 GMT

    India needs Kohli for batting in all formats. India can't risk him. Don't touch Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. The failed ones are better choice as interim captains. Sharma, Raina or Ashwin. Ashwin has articulate English, useful batting, his failed off spin but has an attacking mindset. Raina too is an aggressive cricketer. Sleeping Nohit....well I don't know! Once India unearths another Kohli Kohli can take over as the inspiring India captain.

  • on February 23, 2014, 2:51 GMT

    i guess people are more reactive than pro-active.This indian bowling unit cannot take 20 wickets whoever the captain is,if you ask ricky ponting to be the captain of this indian unit,he will vent his anger and frustration in press conference.You have the Indian administrators helping every other team except India by playing IPL every year and not allowing our players to play in there leagues or county cricket.Take for example,Yuvraj singh,he was dropped for asia cup,but still he plays for a hapless corporate tournament instead of having a contract with a county. I guess many clubs in big bash league would love to sign a contract with yuvraj singh.But he and the BCCi wants to play in these hapless indian pitches and get his form back.this is has been the problem with bowlers. zaheer rediscovered himself after a succesful stint in county cricket not by playing ranji trophy or irani trophy

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:03 GMT

    The thing with indian pitches is that you just cant bowl seam up. As a bowler, if u just run in hard and hit the deck hard at good length it wont do anything in indian pitch.The bowler retorts to other methods like slower ones and changing the lengths often. If you gotta take a wicket in test match(outside india),Then you must bowl like the australian or south african unit where one or two bowler is being very hostile ( like steyn,johnson or morkel) while the other bowlers must stop the flow of runs and frustrate the batsmen by bowling in a consistent line and length( like philander,harris,siddle and not to mention watson)now just see the indian attack tell me whether we have any bowler in any category.And frankly i dont want to trouble kohli's form with captaincy now.Its not captaincy which failed, us in overseas,its the bowlers and money minded approach of the administrators in bcci which is failing us in overseas.

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:04 GMT

    Yes...get rid of Dhobi...we can do better...someone hard and gritty. Also say bye to Zaheer and Ishant. Replace with Yadav and V Aaron. This should have been done years ago..

  • Collegefastbowler on February 23, 2014, 3:09 GMT

    "Johnson wouldn't be as successful under the conservative leadership styles of Dhoni, Graeme Smith or Alastair Cook."

    That one sentence says it all. That is the crux of the problem - the overly defensive approach by Dhoni. He is in his comfort zone at home with the spinners operating on helpful tracks. But the same tactics will not work abroad and for some obscure reason he becomes very defensive where pace bowling is required. He keeps the best bowlers on the bench and resorts to using an experienced trio of medium pace trundlers whose role is to contain the runs and let the batsmen make mistakes. He should be attacking with bowlers of real penetration. Varun Aaron who was bowling well in the 150s was dropped and the wayward Ishant and the over the hill Zaheer were persisted with because they were seen as safe bets purely due to their experience.

    On the England tour he had called the unfit and over weight R.P. Singh from vacation in the Windies while Yadav cooled his heels.

  • Sir_Francis on February 23, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    He lost me with his attack on Smith. SA have, statistically, the 2 best quicks in the world. Surely Smith's captaincy plays a part. If not, Chappell is hypocritical. Unless he thinks Steyn & Philander would be even better under a Clarke?

  • on February 23, 2014, 3:20 GMT

    excellent!!!!...spot on!!!!...virat seems to be settled in the test team n he looks a guy ready for new challenges..n its worth a try to hand him the test captaincy..as dhoni has a horrendous record overseas..moreover his batting form in tests is also a concern..he does not have a test century outside the subcontinent..world cup wins in odis n t20s cant be the parameters for test selection...but i dnt think dis is gonna happen..coz its nt team india,.its team csk or say team sriinivasan..n dhoni will be tha captain as long as he wishes..may be corruption is haunting india everywhere..one day all the die hard indian cricket fans are gonna go away from the game because of this hypocrisy!!!..

  • BangbangKohli on February 23, 2014, 3:22 GMT

    Absolutely, he needs to go now, too defensive, passive and failed to motivate the team. He looks clueless and have poor strategies. Agree he is a good finisher but only in one days.

  • natasrik on February 23, 2014, 3:27 GMT

    Ian writes another article and praises Clarke over Ponting. I am not sure what makes him think that way, he forgot the Clarke was given a 4-0 whitewash by Dhoni and Co followed by thrashing from England in England. The last ashes which australia won in Australia has more to do with English team internal trouble which any international team cannot take it when guys leaving the tour halfway. I am sure with lot of trouble makers out of the English side they will come out strong. As far as Dhoni is concerned he did made few mistakes but the 8-0 drubbing he got was with legends in the team and in this connection the SA AND NZ series was much better atleast they made a fight and almost delivered if not for some stupid umpire decisions on the field in SA and possible the worst catching seen in the recent past from the Indian team in NZ. Virat probably playing the best cricket as of now and I feel India need Virat more as a batsman rather than burden him with captaincy.

  • DipsoManiac on February 23, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    While I totally agree with Ian's comments regarding Dhoni's defensive tactics, I am not so sure about Kohli's credentials as captain in longer format of the game. I've always maintained that Dhoni is amongst the most tactically poor test captains in recent times. He likes to control runs and waits for batsmen to make mistakes. Even in the series that we won at home, like the two match test series against Australia when Laxman played those glorious innings and the one against south Africa, Dhoni made tactical errors which almost cost us the series. India was in good positions in both Australia and England and then Dhoni made critical errors by waiting for batmen to make mistakes abs India lost the momentum. He should have been sacked after those tours. Gautam Gambhir could have been a good option but I am willing to take a chance with Kohli. Dhoni is well past his "use by" date. In fact, I've got so frustrated with his captaincy that I have stopped watching Indian tests.