PCB XI v England XI, Dubai, 3rd day January 13, 2012

Panesar, Onions stake claim in win

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England 269 for 9 dec. (Cook 133, Shah 5-76) and 181 for 3 dec. (Trott 93, Shah 3-38) beat PCB XI 200 for 9 dec. (Hasan 50, Panesar 5-57) and 150 (Alam 51, Onions 3-38) by 100 runs
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Graham Onions and Monty Panesar took three wickets each to propel England XI to their second win in as many practice games, and give the selectors a reminder of the decisions they face ahead of the first Test against Pakistan on Tuesday.

In the absence of Tim Bresnan, a bowling spot is up for grabs in the England Test side. Onions and Panesar both pressed their case for inclusion as they helped bowl the Pakistan Cricket Board XI out for 150, and set up a 100-run win on the third day.

Panesar finished with 8 for 103 in the match to press his case to be included as a second spinner for the first Test. Onions also showed he was ready for a return to Test cricket, taking 3 for 38 in the second innings. His two wickets help reduce the PCB XI to 16 for 3 in pursuit of 251 after England declared their second-innings five minutes before lunch.

Onions had Afaq Raheem cutting onto his stumps for 7 before Mohammad Ayub was trapped in front for a third-ball duck. Chris Tremlett is the favourite to replace Bresnan for the first Test and he also struck with the new ball by having Nasir Jamshed caught behind, playing away from his body.

Usman Salahuddin and Fawad Alam added 71 for the fourth wicket before Panesar added to his first-innings five-for by finding the edge of Salahuddin's bat, Graeme Swann taking the catch at slip.

Swann got among the wickets by trapping Haris Sohail leg before, despite a hint of bat before pad, and there was also a wicket for Kevin Pietersen's occasional offspin as Alam holed out to midwicket for 51 for 93 balls.

But it was Panesar again that stole the show as he lured Raza Hasan past a turning ball, before completing the win when Mohammad Talha offered no stroke and was out lbw for three.

England will be encouraged by Panesar's form and they will also have been pleased to see Jonathan Trott make runs in England's second innings. Trott was promoted to open the batting and struck 12 fours making 93, and shared an opening stand of 130 with Andrew Strauss.

Strauss also went past 50 before falling leg before to Yasir Shah, who took all three wickets in the innings and gave England a reminder of their fallibility against spin. He finished with 8 for 95 in the match.

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  • AbdullahShaikh on January 16, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    Experience in UAE conditions. is similer to subcontinent conditions, hence the pak team will easily adapt to these conditions and pitch. However, the english team will find it difficult to adjust as they found out in India during the world cup and the ODI series in India. However, Test cricket is different and England are ranked no.1 in the Test match category. However, this ranking has come off the home series played by england aganst India, SL, Pak and series in Australia (when the aussies were not dong well). A clear parellel can be drawn to Indias no.1 Ranking after playing in the subcontinent for a long time. When India, Pak and SL went to England they got thrashed, not becouse england was superior but because these teams could not handle the conditions there. Also the younsters were untested till then. Now in the UAE it will be a different story. I firmly believe that here Pak are the favorites.

  • satish619chandar on January 16, 2012, 3:01 GMT

    Good game for England.. Wish they play spin better if the tracks aid spin..

  • Meety on January 16, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    @landl47 - if you wanna play "my left handed opener is better than yours" - which Test batsmen has the highest test AND FC average Cook, Strauss or Warner?

  • AbdullahShaikh on January 15, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    Almost the main Englsih XI played against the boys, none of whom are in the Pak XI. Nothing can be read into this performance. At the most it indicates tougher times ahead for England.

  • FlynnC on January 15, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    Disrespect Jonesy2, disrespect... England are a very, very, very good side, and, even better, I like watching them play. I agree Australia will be a force come 18 months in England. The fact is Australia are always ( and read carefully all England fans) always competitive. And they are driven by a single motivation at the moment - to knock-off England at home in 2013. It is shameful for an Australian Cricket side to loose the Ashes so badly - this building Australian side will spit venom, spill blood and run through hell and back to win them back. England will not need to be as good as they are now or were in 2011/12 in Australia - they will need to be better. But having said that I believe they will be. This year is the next level for them - if they go through to win (or maybe one drawn series only, away to India might pass) all 5 series they play this year than they will be a truely formidable team. pakistan will be a true first up test.

  • mainul079080 on January 15, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    You Pakistanis are missing a great player in your team.Guess whom?It is FAWAD ALAM.He can be one Hussy or one Chaunderpal in your team.I am sure if he is given enough chances he can translate his superb talent on 22 yard pitch.He is so composed when batting.can gradually build a long innings,a brilliant fielder.Alas! old Pak politics inside you!You can give repeated chances to mediocre players like Sammy,Farhat,Akmal brothers,Taufiq but cant give to great talent like Fawad,Yasir Hamid,Faisal Iqbal,Kabir khan,Basit Ali....Pakistanis!Get out of localism.Forget who is from Karachi,Rawalpindi,Islamabaad,Pathan,Panjabi....I am a keen follower of your cricket for a decade.

  • wrenx on January 14, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Why is Broad such a sacred cow to this England team? Judging him too much on form is no good in testing conditions of the UAE - without doubt, he'll revert to his instinctive short-pitch rubbish that he's built for. Never been a fan, not just for his petulance, but his bowling. England have enough fine bowlers in their unit that they don't need a Broad; an combination of Tremlett, Anderson, Finn, Onions, Swann and Panesar will be stronger.

  • YorkshirePudding on January 14, 2012, 15:01 GMT

    Im not convinced that a 5 man bowling attack will work, had Bresnan been fit then I would had said that it was definately on, as he is a reasonable batsman, and so can cover morgan, the problem is that Broad isnt as good with the bat, and the 169 he scored in 2010 has a rather large shadow over it, Swann is good for a few runs but dont expect buket fulls, the other bowlers are very much like bunnies in headlights.

  • hhillbumper on January 14, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    This was a good outing for England.lets see how it goes when we play pakistan. It would appear that Ajmal has a new delivery.it is the one he bowls with a straight arm. Good to see Monty back in the wickets.has he learned to bowl with more variety though? I have seen bits and pieces of him over the summer and he seemed to bowl better.

  • SirViv1973 on January 14, 2012, 14:32 GMT

    @Land47, As per my earlier post I too think it will be a four man attack. However I can't see Flower going with 2 and 2. I know the conditions are different to what we have been playing in recently but arguably our biggest strength has been the seam bowling department and I do think the best fast bowlers will take wickets in all conditions. I think the other reason why I can't see it happening is if we were to loose one of the seamers through injury that would put a huge responsibility on the other. I really do think at this stage Monty & Swann are competing for 1 place. The only way I can see that changing is if we get to the last test & need to win then AF may gamble. I think AF wanted to give Monty a run in case this happens or if Swann was to get injured. Where have all the Pak fans gone? I would like to know what they think of Eng's bowling dilemma and if they think Eng would be more dangerous dropping Morgan & playing the extra bowler ?

  • AbdullahShaikh on January 16, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    Experience in UAE conditions. is similer to subcontinent conditions, hence the pak team will easily adapt to these conditions and pitch. However, the english team will find it difficult to adjust as they found out in India during the world cup and the ODI series in India. However, Test cricket is different and England are ranked no.1 in the Test match category. However, this ranking has come off the home series played by england aganst India, SL, Pak and series in Australia (when the aussies were not dong well). A clear parellel can be drawn to Indias no.1 Ranking after playing in the subcontinent for a long time. When India, Pak and SL went to England they got thrashed, not becouse england was superior but because these teams could not handle the conditions there. Also the younsters were untested till then. Now in the UAE it will be a different story. I firmly believe that here Pak are the favorites.

  • satish619chandar on January 16, 2012, 3:01 GMT

    Good game for England.. Wish they play spin better if the tracks aid spin..

  • Meety on January 16, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    @landl47 - if you wanna play "my left handed opener is better than yours" - which Test batsmen has the highest test AND FC average Cook, Strauss or Warner?

  • AbdullahShaikh on January 15, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    Almost the main Englsih XI played against the boys, none of whom are in the Pak XI. Nothing can be read into this performance. At the most it indicates tougher times ahead for England.

  • FlynnC on January 15, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    Disrespect Jonesy2, disrespect... England are a very, very, very good side, and, even better, I like watching them play. I agree Australia will be a force come 18 months in England. The fact is Australia are always ( and read carefully all England fans) always competitive. And they are driven by a single motivation at the moment - to knock-off England at home in 2013. It is shameful for an Australian Cricket side to loose the Ashes so badly - this building Australian side will spit venom, spill blood and run through hell and back to win them back. England will not need to be as good as they are now or were in 2011/12 in Australia - they will need to be better. But having said that I believe they will be. This year is the next level for them - if they go through to win (or maybe one drawn series only, away to India might pass) all 5 series they play this year than they will be a truely formidable team. pakistan will be a true first up test.

  • mainul079080 on January 15, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    You Pakistanis are missing a great player in your team.Guess whom?It is FAWAD ALAM.He can be one Hussy or one Chaunderpal in your team.I am sure if he is given enough chances he can translate his superb talent on 22 yard pitch.He is so composed when batting.can gradually build a long innings,a brilliant fielder.Alas! old Pak politics inside you!You can give repeated chances to mediocre players like Sammy,Farhat,Akmal brothers,Taufiq but cant give to great talent like Fawad,Yasir Hamid,Faisal Iqbal,Kabir khan,Basit Ali....Pakistanis!Get out of localism.Forget who is from Karachi,Rawalpindi,Islamabaad,Pathan,Panjabi....I am a keen follower of your cricket for a decade.

  • wrenx on January 14, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Why is Broad such a sacred cow to this England team? Judging him too much on form is no good in testing conditions of the UAE - without doubt, he'll revert to his instinctive short-pitch rubbish that he's built for. Never been a fan, not just for his petulance, but his bowling. England have enough fine bowlers in their unit that they don't need a Broad; an combination of Tremlett, Anderson, Finn, Onions, Swann and Panesar will be stronger.

  • YorkshirePudding on January 14, 2012, 15:01 GMT

    Im not convinced that a 5 man bowling attack will work, had Bresnan been fit then I would had said that it was definately on, as he is a reasonable batsman, and so can cover morgan, the problem is that Broad isnt as good with the bat, and the 169 he scored in 2010 has a rather large shadow over it, Swann is good for a few runs but dont expect buket fulls, the other bowlers are very much like bunnies in headlights.

  • hhillbumper on January 14, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    This was a good outing for England.lets see how it goes when we play pakistan. It would appear that Ajmal has a new delivery.it is the one he bowls with a straight arm. Good to see Monty back in the wickets.has he learned to bowl with more variety though? I have seen bits and pieces of him over the summer and he seemed to bowl better.

  • SirViv1973 on January 14, 2012, 14:32 GMT

    @Land47, As per my earlier post I too think it will be a four man attack. However I can't see Flower going with 2 and 2. I know the conditions are different to what we have been playing in recently but arguably our biggest strength has been the seam bowling department and I do think the best fast bowlers will take wickets in all conditions. I think the other reason why I can't see it happening is if we were to loose one of the seamers through injury that would put a huge responsibility on the other. I really do think at this stage Monty & Swann are competing for 1 place. The only way I can see that changing is if we get to the last test & need to win then AF may gamble. I think AF wanted to give Monty a run in case this happens or if Swann was to get injured. Where have all the Pak fans gone? I would like to know what they think of Eng's bowling dilemma and if they think Eng would be more dangerous dropping Morgan & playing the extra bowler ?

  • ReverseSwing20 on January 14, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    @Sanaullah Khan. I know what you mean but probably the management will go for Abdur Rehman instead of Cheema, mainly because the problems of English Batsmen ESP Pieterson against a left arm spinner is well documented (probably cuz effectively a left arm spinner is a Rt arm Leg spinner for a Rt hander- the scourge of many a English batsmen since long :)

  • on January 14, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    My team. (1) Hafeez (2) Taufeeq (3) Azhar Ali (4) Younus (5) Misbah (6) Umar Akmal (7) Adnan Akmal (8) Umar Gul (9) Saeed Ajmal (10) Aizaz Cheema (11) Junaid Khan

    Some of Pak fans might not like Aizaz Cheema there but i tell you what he will be the one who will create the most of problems for the English Batsmen.

  • on January 14, 2012, 12:34 GMT

    My team. (1) Hafeez (2) Taufeeq (3) Azhar Ali (4) Younus (5) Misbah (6) Umar Akmal (7) Adnan Akmal (8) Umar Gul (9) Saeed Ajmal (10) Aizaz Cheema (11) Junaid Khan

    Some of Pak fans might not like Aizaz Cheema there but i tell you what he will be the one who will create the most of problems for the English Batsmen.

  • on January 14, 2012, 12:26 GMT

    Comparing PCB XI vs England is not fair.The PCB XI had no Ajmal,Umar Gul,Junaid Khan,Misbah,Younus,Hafeez and the others. It was good practice for both the teams especially for PCB XI. Playing against top England side must have been a great experience for them.But you can't judge English players from these matches.They haven't played any test match in the UAE. Whereas it's almost a second home for Pakistan cricket now. I am damn sure this time Pakistan will win all the three formats, Can't predict the margin though.I got this feeling English players will look ordinary when the real business starts.Its my opinion though yours can be different.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 14, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    wombats, the 4 bowler formula has tended to work because (a) we've done it on receotive surfaces and (b) the opposition when we have had a more difficult surface has tended to be too vulnerable (read last winter, or last summer) to defend themselves. The last time that England were really forced to work hard to get wickets was in Bangladesh, which was just what that experimental side needed (we played 5 bowlers in the 2nd Test on a really dead surface and it worked).

  • on January 14, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    @Meety: Well said; Fawad does have the experience the rest don't, and we all know bowling out Pakistanis cheaply is rarely credit to the bowling attack, unless it's Misbah's comparatively stable team. But I wish Fawad never returns to the side because he wilts under pressure. Last year there were a few runs left to make against SA and he went down on his knees and hugged his bat and almost wept; he can't hit a six to save his life poor lad, and team Pakistan is known for its courage under pressure as much as for abandoning easy wins. True that was an ODI but tests require the Inzamam temperament even more so.

  • deconstruct on January 14, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    English fans: Surely, you're making too much out of a side match victory. If I recall correctly, even India won a side match or two on their disastrous tour to England recently. Which is not to undermine the strength and skills of the current English side, but nor is it to mean that the current Pakistan lineup is going to be taken lightly. This series could actually be a turning point for the Pakistan team - if they win it, they would come back in reckoning as a top test side; they know it and they're going to give it their best shot.

    Let the real battle start and see how it goes from there.

  • allblue on January 14, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    For all the discussion here, the shrewd bet would be to assume the think tank will go with six batsmen, three seamers and a spinner because that is the proven formula. Having said that, I did read elsewhere that the two spinner strategy in this game was in part so that the Andys could assess the logistics of the 2+2 option, but then forward planning is their keymark. Remember this was a 4th, 5th and 6th day wicket, the first choice new ball pair took wickets on days 1 to 3 in the earlier game and as bowling is Pakistan's stronger suit it doesn't make sense to weaken the batting, for the first Test at least. re Morgan lest we forget he scored a ton in his last but one Test innings, and I think he will be at six for all three Tests regardless, because the days of chopping and changing on the back of a couple of low scores are thankfully behind us.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 14, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    SirViv, I think that it's part of the new regime: take warm-ups seriously and win them if you can. England did in Australia last winter and got some momentum going into the Test series and, to boot, stopped the Australians from using warm-ups to induce a feeling of crisis in the side as they had in the past. It also shook some of the fans who expected their state sides to beat England as a prelude to a series defeat. Now, England go; they try to flatten all-comers; and send out a defiant message. I can remember all to vividly England playing an island side - you'll remember which - stripped of all its Test bowlers that gave the new ball to an occasional seamer (their opening bat) and saw him take a cheap 5-for and roll them over (1986 tour): NEVER AGAIN! You win consistently, it gets contagious. You lose consistently and you end up with a run of 9 away Tests since your last (narrow) win.

  • JG2704 on January 14, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    @ big_al_81/Tigg - Like your teams there. I feel that chosing 5 bowlers is tough enough so having Morgan in the side is a no no for me. I think all the pitches will be spin friendly out there so Monty should be in. Anderson and Broad start every game for me. The only doubt is the 5th bowler which both Finn and Onions have made a case for. If they do stick with 4 bowlers I am fearful that if they play Monty and Broad or Anderson break down , then one paceman nbowl throughout the test ...

  • JG2704 on January 14, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    @Posted by landl47 on (January 14 2012, 03:04 AM GMT) - So do you think that Morgan will contribute more as a bastsman then the 5th bowler ? What happens if one of our bowlers breaks down and then we have 2 pace bowlers and one spinner or one spinner and 2 pace bowlers and I know Swann was nursing a strain and Broad and Tremlett are both coming back from injury. I know an injury could happen to a batsmen but it's less likely as they don't put their body through so much. Also in the 1st game , in the 1st inns the tail wagged a bit too much for my liking - a 5th bowling option would surely help no end. I would also add that in this heat the bowlers job will be sufficiently harder to warrant a 5th bowler , if we want to maximise our bowlers freshness etc

  • JG2704 on January 14, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Decent final day for England. Like Tigg's team. I've always preferred the 5-1-5 balance and that was before Morgan's lack of form.

  • JG2704 on January 14, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    @jonesy2 on (January 13 2012, 15:32 PM GMT) re "baahaha who cares" - obviously you and your AKA care , otherwise you wouldn't keep stalking these England threads with nothing to say

  • JG2704 on January 14, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    @Posted by landl47 on (January 14 2012, 03:04 AM GMT) - So do you think that Morgan will contribute more as a bastsman then the 5th bowler ? What happens if one of our bowlers breaks down and then we have 2 pace bowlers and one spinner or one spinner and 2 pace bowlers and I know Swann was nursing a strain and Broad and Tremlett are both coming back from injury. I know an injury could happen to a batsmen but it's less likely as they don't put their body through so much. Also in the 1st game , in the 1st inns the tail wagged a bit too much for my liking - a 5th bowling option would surely help no end. I would also add that in this heat the bowlers job will be sufficiently harder to warrant a 5th bowler , if we want to maximise our bowlers freshness etc

  • 5wombats on January 14, 2012, 9:29 GMT

    Looking at comments here its clear that the bowling unit is a selection problem. We have so many good bowlers now that anyone getting left out won't be left out out for reasons of lack of form/class. Although Morgan does play spin quite well, we'd be tempted to leave him out and look to Broad+Swann to get a few more runs, thus allowing Monty to come in. Having said all this Flower/Strauss have aced it in the past playing just 4 bowlers. So, who knows - confusing!? It's enough to make a wombat muddle-headed. Anyway why are there Aussies here looking at this little warm up game? Australia are playing a little knock about with some team at the moment. We think it's fair to say that none of us really care too much about that, do we?

  • brittop on January 14, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    @CricketingStargazer: No fun playing nicely! Trouble is, as @SirViv1973 points out, even Aussie sledging is of poor quality now.

  • Dr.Hasan on January 14, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    Nice 2nd innings performance by Eng both with ball and bat. Hope for a cracker of a series esp the tests with the DRS included. Expect Pak to be the underdogs here. They will have to play above their abilities to win from this ENG side. Good luck Pakistan :)

  • criclover112 on January 14, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    england played well, this will be a good contest.

  • landl47 on January 14, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Awww, jonesy, Warner only came up 383 short. Still he did score more in this innings than Cook did in one of his three centuries against Australia last Summer.

  • Meety on January 14, 2012, 5:10 GMT

    Can only beat what's in front of you, a good 2nd innings by England, thought they should of batted a bit longer for Bell. Anyways the one big rider with judging where England is at, is the fact that apart from Fawad Alam, the batting line up was very raw. I can't believe Alam doesn't play more for Pakistan, he impressed me greatly in Oz a couple of years ago. The Paki bowling line up was good so the batting is a fair indication of where they are at, which is about par as the main Paki line up has more hostility & guile. == == == Theoretically should be an attritional series, something England haven't played for a while.

  • landl47 on January 14, 2012, 3:04 GMT

    I'm not sure why there's all this enthusiasm for playing 5 bowlers. So far in the two warm-up games England have played 4 bowlers in each game and haven't had much trouble bowling the opposition out. It's the batting that has looked a bit fragile. I'm sure England will play 6 batsmen. The only question for me is whether England play 3 seamers or 2 spinners. It depends on the pitch and conditions, but England looked very good with 2 + 2 in the Pakistan A game.To skittle them for 200 and 150 without Broad and Anderson was a notable achievement.

  • landl47 on January 14, 2012, 2:51 GMT

    Try this for a comparison, jonesy. David Warner in his whole test career has had 7 test innings (2 not out) before the current one. He's scored 203 runs at an average of 40. Alastair Cook had 7 innings (1 not out) in the 2010/11 Ashes series. He scored 766 runs, average 127. Warner's doing well in this latest test; if he's out for 563, he'll equal Cook's achievement. If that happens, I'll be happy to say Warner is as good as Cook. If not, I'm sure you'll concede that Australia still have some distance to travel.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 14, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    brittop, play nicely! Warner is the greatest batsman since Phil Hughes: clearly better than any of our tail-enders. In fact, if you put up Australia's top 4 against our 8, 9, 10 and 11 we would be hard pressed to best them right now. And, lest we forget, as was pointed out by CricInfo, the same attack that wiped out India today was hammered mercilessly by England last winter. Is the attack suddenly much better? Or is the opposition not quite so good?

  • Charlie_Ellis on January 14, 2012, 0:53 GMT

    Really unsure as to who I'd go with for the 1st Test. Think, just because it's the format England have gone with for so long, that a 3x pacers 1x spinner attack is likely to feature Tremlett alongside Anderson, Broad and Swann. After all, at the start of our last series he was arguably the first name on the bowling team sheet before injury struck, and his bowling in this game had been both penetrative and economic. Shame Bresnan is injured, as without him I don't think they'll go with Panesar and Swann together in a 5 man attack, which would be the best option given Morgan's apparent poor form. And shame too that Samit Patel isn't an option for a 2nd spinner role at number 7 that wouldn't weaken the batting too much. Onions perhaps a tad too expensive in this game to force his way in so early, though Finn is probably the strongest challenger to Tremlett. The series will be won and lost on the middle-order batting though; how Pakistan's perform and how KP, Bell and Morgan cope with spin

  • Coastaltown on January 14, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    aww, is Jonesy having a pop? good lad, what's that? He's citing Warner? Oh. Oh dear. It's worse than we thought. Still, it's good to try.

  • cbradbury on January 13, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    Yes, Warner - another product of T20 with no reliable test cricket technique - Anderson will be licking his lips...

  • brittop on January 13, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    @Jonsey2: England's bowling attack will make short work of T20 hitter Warner, just as they did to Phil Hughes.

  • SirViv1973 on January 13, 2012, 22:26 GMT

    Firstly, can all true Eng fans just ignore Jonesy from now until the next ashes series, frankly his ridiculous comments are not worthy of a response, I'm sure there wont be any Eng fans feelin the need to comment when Aus play their warm up match in the West Indies in March! Secondly, was rather surprised by the dec today I thought Flower would have wanted some time in the middle for Bell & Morgan but clearly maintaining the winning habit was felt more important and was a great show of faith in Morgan who I think we can all agree has struggled so far. Thirdly, for all those calling for a 5 man attack let's trust flower here. In terms of the test side he's pretty much got everything right so far and although I think this very good Eng side is still a long way from being great, if we look at the 2 great teams of recent times, Windies had the 4 quicks & Oz had 3 seamers and Warne both teams rarely felt the need to play 5 bowlers and they were both successful in all conditions.

  • subbass on January 13, 2012, 22:24 GMT

    Jonesy you should check the ICC rankings lad. And remember the absolute pasting we gave you not so long ago. Still, I will give your mob some credit they at least look a solid mid table Test side these days. The draw against the Kiwis was an impressive result.

  • on January 13, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    Jonesy Jonesy Jonesy have u never heard that '1 sparrow does not a summer make'? That is If one can call beating this Indian Team in Australia a sparrow!! Australia havnt even won the series yet either. talk about easily excited & proud Aussies? lol DONT GET AHEAD OF YOURSELF MATE!!

  • Snick_To_Backward_Point on January 13, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    jonesy2 secretly wishes he was a Pom. Why else would he make a beeline for every Eng thread when they're not playing the Aussies? Either that or he;s David Campese's daughter.

  • Snick_To_Backward_Point on January 13, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    Really got the impression they were assessing the 2 spin option when Panesar & Swann were bowling in tandem. I wouldnt be surprised to see Monty in the line up next week at all.

  • 5wombats on January 13, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    @big_al_81; liking the look of that team. TBQH Monty has to play now doesn't he? You can't take a match winning 8fer and STILL not make the first team surely!? England have to take 20 wickets, we have to pick the bowlers most likely to do that for the conditions/surface expected. Lately there has been the 4 bowler route, but that wasn't in these conditions. There now must be a case for playing Monty and Swann. Leave out Morgan. Wombats also agree that Tremlett should get the nod. There is plenty of time for Finn who is young and knows he's in the frame. Anderson and Broad are shoe-ins. There's yer 5 bowlers. We look strong. PS @CricketingStargazer - so, were we right about those 2 questions???

  • Nutcutlet on January 13, 2012, 21:26 GMT

    @jonesy2: great pyrotechics by Warner, but the bowling was powder-puff as I'm sure you'll agree, so don't measure Oz's performance by this farce v India who are an embarrassment to the test arena. I think you should save your crowing until you've whipped a proper side, like NZ for instance! Oh, and congratulations on your rehabilitation - it seems to be coming along nicely - nearly time to play with the big boys again!

  • Nutcutlet on January 13, 2012, 21:10 GMT

    Interested to read that Chris Tremlett is ahead of Finn for the final test place - good digging by the anonymous reporter! The consensus of opinion is that Flower & Strauss will stick with plan A and play Swann + 3 quicks. There are a lot of Swann supporters hereabouts, but his match figures (2-73) are eclipsed by Panesar's (8-103) in this match. Just how much notice is taken of these warm-up games is anybody's guess - but they will provide food for thought for AF & AS. As I've said before, Swann's all-rounder credentials may well swing things his way. I would have thought that the Finn-Tremlett decision may be on a flip of a coin, but our intrepid reporter seems to think that it's sorted. Personally, I'd have thought that Finn has his nose in front. At least it looks as if it's going to be a genuine match, unlike that slaying of the Indians at the WACA - the modern equivalent of a Roman holiday at the Coliseum!

  • spence1324 on January 13, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    @jonesy2 'Australia back to there dominate best',yeah whatever all you have done is used englands template on how to beat india,someone in the ecb must have faxed it over before the Melbourne test when Australia were in there 'swing camp' LOL.Try planing and training for a test series in future instead of piggy backing on englands success!

  • on January 13, 2012, 20:50 GMT

    @jonesy2 - it's India you're playing, hardly a top team...... even we beat them!

  • OhhhMattyMatty on January 13, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    2 wins inside 3 days. Every bowler taking wickets. Yet to be bowled out on tour. Top 3 making runs for fun. This could get VERY MESSY for Pakistan!

  • sirvivfan on January 13, 2012, 19:37 GMT

    Good warm up for England on a used pitch. From Pakitan view point as usual bowlers did well, disappointed to see no worth while batting performance. This must be a worry as there appears to be no batting talent coming through. It's up to the bowlers to make a game of it. I think it may well be the same when main contest starts. hopefully the 1st batters have been watching England bowlers..... I hope they do not fall to Panesar! I also hope they have watched exploits by batting greats such Kallis, Amla, Clarke and Warner! Good luck Pakitan.

  • brittop on January 13, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    I knew it was important to the England camp to win their tour matches. Now we know how important - even more so than giving Morgan another innings. Hope it proves the correct tactic.

  • on January 13, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    i see everyone's gone quiet because england have finally got it together and beaten PCB very comfortably and within 3 days. No batting worries or bowling worries and nothing to bitch about the England team

  • simon_w on January 13, 2012, 17:25 GMT

    Assuming that, if Bres were fit, our first-choice attack would be Anderson, Broad, Bresnan and Swann, then we could field a second-string attack of Tremlett, Finn, Onions and Panesar -- that's a high quality international attack we've got there in reserve. (although it would be a looong tail.... -- there's four no. 11s there!) I assume Finn is still in pole-position to get Bresnan's spot, but I wonder: if it was Anderson who was unavailable (as the weakest batter in the first-choice attack), would five bowlers be seriously considered for the first time in a while, given Panesar's success?

  • Pilgrim1311 on January 13, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    Scratchy performances in our two warm-ups perhaps, but we were told by the Pak fans that this was a side containing decent players on the fringe of the test side, so I'm content with two wins and every player contributing something (except Morgan and a slight worry with Pietersen). I won't read too much into the scratchy performances too much - these three day games call for almost ODI-style batting to get through two innings per team in three days, so I'm not sure it was the best barometer of how prepared the players are to bat in five-day Tests. Looking forward to this series!! Should be a great clash.

  • cricket_fan_1980 on January 13, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    well played England, Monty should play if the English bowling line up wants to trouble Pakistan.

  • big_al_81 on January 13, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Decent couple of warm-up games for England. Won both but had to work for both - perfect. Not sure KP's form in warm-up games matters too much as he's only ever going to be inspired by big days. Surely the big question now is selection and there's a very strong case for playing 5 bowlers on wickets where it'll be hard to bowl teams out and hot work for bowlers. Do we honestly gain as much from an extra batsman as we do from an extra bowler, especially with Bresnan out and the runs that Prior and Broad can score? I'd go for Strauss, Cook, Trott, KP, Bell, Prior, Broad, Swann, Tremlett, Anderson, Panesar. Should be a good series.

  • GeorgeWBush on January 13, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Hard to gauge where England are at with their preparation. Most of the batsmen have had a bit of time in the middle and all of the bowlers have done ok too without any really dominating performances. Pakistan will be a much tougher prospect than the sides fielded in these warm up matches. The pitch is likely to be good for batting so I would be tempted to leave out Morgan and play an extra bowler. The heat will be tough for England bowlers if they only have a 4 man attack and there really isn't any useful part time option. My team would be Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Prior, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Panesar, Tremlett

  • engno1 on January 13, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Oops... missed that paragraph mentioning Trem.

    Bowling's fine. Batting is an issue though.

  • landl47 on January 13, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    A useful warm-up for England before the tests. The policy of treating each match as a game to win has to help with the mindset of the players going into the real games. I never liked Duncan Fletcher's 14-a-side jamborees; unless you play to win the intensity is missing and you might just as well stay in the nets. Given that this was advertised as a pretty good Pakistan A team, England will be encouraged by how easily they handled them. To win by 100 runs after declaring with 3 down in the second innings is an impressive performance. However, the spinner Yasir definitely gave England something to think about, which is good; no use going into the tests with a false sense of security. My only quibble is that if Morgan is going to be picked for the tests, he should have been given a chance to make some runs in the second innings- he's the only batsman who hasn't had a worthwhile knock so far. Still, good job, England- now for the real thing.

  • engno1 on January 13, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    No mention of Tremlett?

    Tremlett 24-10-62-4 Onions 23-6-90-4

    Also, Morgan is a liability at the moment.

  • zesh92 on January 13, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    In both the innings it was a typical Pak collapse.and monty panesar bowled really well by picking up 8 wickets. I think monty is better than swann in these conditions.but i'll bet Pakistan team will show thousand time better batting effort than this pcb 11.and we should keep that in mind that its not pak A team its a 3rd or 4th grade team..........Best of luck to both the teams. Im really looking forward to this series

  • jonesy2 on January 13, 2012, 15:32 GMT

    baahaha who cares. your time in the sun is over and like in england it may never shine again. australia are back to the dominant best and are now the by far the best. learn from it though. england do you have any uber talented batsmen like dave warner? oh no? well just try to make do with what you have got. 2012 and beyond, is going to be another 1995 and beyond. so by 2027 england might win the ashes back. ;)

  • Aragorn_11 on January 13, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    Oh dear...England are looking OMINUS....if they dont go with Panesar in the 1st test, they'll miss a trick...2 spinners and 2 seamers are much better in these conditions....please dont think Pietersen can take a part time spin roll!

  • CricketingStargazer on January 13, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Mission accomplished, I think. Two matches. Two wins. Most players with runs or wickets. Swann and Panesar bowling well together (look at Swann's figures - he was barely conceding one single an over). Monty looks rehabilitated and Onions is suggesting that he may be back in the frame in the summer, although where he would fit in I don't know. Now the team need to produce the goods on Tuesday.

  • allblue on January 13, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    I think the significant thing about this match is that it shows how seriously the current England set-up take practise games. There was a case for batting on after lunch, giving Bell and Morgan time in the middle, but these days England set out to win these games and not treat them as a glorified net. They won three out of three in Aus last year, and have won both here setting them up nicely for the Tests. There is some value in getting used to local conditions of course, but these are experienced players and they fine tune their technique in the nets. So in practice games, they look to produce the intensity required to slog through the tough hours in Test cricket, and get the winning mentality grooved. So going in to the Test this team has been through two tough competitive and winning matches, meaning they can hit the ground running and keep going. 'Fail to prepare and prepare to fail' as Graham Gooch keeps saying.

  • jmcilhinney on January 13, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    Onions performed creditably but it would be a miracle if he got into the side for the tests without there being several injuries. Monty's is the more interesting performance. I'm sure that England will start the first test with a familiar lineup, with the only unknown being whether Tremlett or Finn will be the third seamer. The outcome of that first match could certainly lead to a chance for Monty though, most likely in addition to Swann but maybe, just maybe as a replacement if Swann doesn't perform. That's rather unlikely though. Regardless of what happens here in UAE, I'd say that there's a very good chance of Monty playing in SL and/or India and his performance here will have encouraged the team and management to that end at least.

  • Tigg on January 13, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    For me we've got to go with a 5-1-5 split for the first test. As I understand it the pitch is expected to be batting friendly.

    Strauus, Cook, Trott, KP, Bell, Prior, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Panesar,, Tremlett/Finn/Onions.

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  • Tigg on January 13, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    For me we've got to go with a 5-1-5 split for the first test. As I understand it the pitch is expected to be batting friendly.

    Strauus, Cook, Trott, KP, Bell, Prior, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Panesar,, Tremlett/Finn/Onions.

  • jmcilhinney on January 13, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    Onions performed creditably but it would be a miracle if he got into the side for the tests without there being several injuries. Monty's is the more interesting performance. I'm sure that England will start the first test with a familiar lineup, with the only unknown being whether Tremlett or Finn will be the third seamer. The outcome of that first match could certainly lead to a chance for Monty though, most likely in addition to Swann but maybe, just maybe as a replacement if Swann doesn't perform. That's rather unlikely though. Regardless of what happens here in UAE, I'd say that there's a very good chance of Monty playing in SL and/or India and his performance here will have encouraged the team and management to that end at least.

  • allblue on January 13, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    I think the significant thing about this match is that it shows how seriously the current England set-up take practise games. There was a case for batting on after lunch, giving Bell and Morgan time in the middle, but these days England set out to win these games and not treat them as a glorified net. They won three out of three in Aus last year, and have won both here setting them up nicely for the Tests. There is some value in getting used to local conditions of course, but these are experienced players and they fine tune their technique in the nets. So in practice games, they look to produce the intensity required to slog through the tough hours in Test cricket, and get the winning mentality grooved. So going in to the Test this team has been through two tough competitive and winning matches, meaning they can hit the ground running and keep going. 'Fail to prepare and prepare to fail' as Graham Gooch keeps saying.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 13, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Mission accomplished, I think. Two matches. Two wins. Most players with runs or wickets. Swann and Panesar bowling well together (look at Swann's figures - he was barely conceding one single an over). Monty looks rehabilitated and Onions is suggesting that he may be back in the frame in the summer, although where he would fit in I don't know. Now the team need to produce the goods on Tuesday.

  • Aragorn_11 on January 13, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    Oh dear...England are looking OMINUS....if they dont go with Panesar in the 1st test, they'll miss a trick...2 spinners and 2 seamers are much better in these conditions....please dont think Pietersen can take a part time spin roll!

  • jonesy2 on January 13, 2012, 15:32 GMT

    baahaha who cares. your time in the sun is over and like in england it may never shine again. australia are back to the dominant best and are now the by far the best. learn from it though. england do you have any uber talented batsmen like dave warner? oh no? well just try to make do with what you have got. 2012 and beyond, is going to be another 1995 and beyond. so by 2027 england might win the ashes back. ;)

  • zesh92 on January 13, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    In both the innings it was a typical Pak collapse.and monty panesar bowled really well by picking up 8 wickets. I think monty is better than swann in these conditions.but i'll bet Pakistan team will show thousand time better batting effort than this pcb 11.and we should keep that in mind that its not pak A team its a 3rd or 4th grade team..........Best of luck to both the teams. Im really looking forward to this series

  • engno1 on January 13, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    No mention of Tremlett?

    Tremlett 24-10-62-4 Onions 23-6-90-4

    Also, Morgan is a liability at the moment.

  • landl47 on January 13, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    A useful warm-up for England before the tests. The policy of treating each match as a game to win has to help with the mindset of the players going into the real games. I never liked Duncan Fletcher's 14-a-side jamborees; unless you play to win the intensity is missing and you might just as well stay in the nets. Given that this was advertised as a pretty good Pakistan A team, England will be encouraged by how easily they handled them. To win by 100 runs after declaring with 3 down in the second innings is an impressive performance. However, the spinner Yasir definitely gave England something to think about, which is good; no use going into the tests with a false sense of security. My only quibble is that if Morgan is going to be picked for the tests, he should have been given a chance to make some runs in the second innings- he's the only batsman who hasn't had a worthwhile knock so far. Still, good job, England- now for the real thing.

  • engno1 on January 13, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Oops... missed that paragraph mentioning Trem.

    Bowling's fine. Batting is an issue though.