November 14, 2009

India's proudest possession

Tendulkar has gone two decades being a blend of the sublime and the precise, incapable of ugliness or of being dull; and those are among the least of his achievements
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Sachin Tendulkar has been playing top-class cricket for 20 years and he's still producing blistering innings, still looking hungry, still demolishing attacks, still a prized wicket, still a proud competitor. He has not merely been around for two decades. From his first outing to his most recent effort, a stunning 175 in Hyderabad, he has been a great batsman. Longevity counts amongst his strengths. Twenty years! It's a heck of a long time, and it's gone in the blink of an eye.

The Berlin Wall was taken down a week before Sachin Tendulkar first wore the colours of his country, Nelson Mandela was behind bars, Allan Border was captaining Australia, and India was a patronised country known for its dust, poverty, timid batsmen and not much else. In those days Tendulkar was a tousle-haired cherub prepared to stand his ground against all comers, including Wasim Akram and the most menacing of the Australans, Merv Hughes. Now he is a tousle-haired elder still standing firm, still driving and cutting, still retaining some of the impudence of youth, but nowadays bearing also the sagacity of age.

It has been an incredible journey, a trip that figures alone cannot define. Not that the statistics lack weight. To the contrary they are astonishing, almost mind-boggling. Tendulkar has scored an avalanche of runs, thousands upon thousands of them in every form of the game. He has reached three figures 87 times in the colours of his country, and all the while has somehow retained his freshness, somehow avoided the mechanical, the repetitive and the predictable.

Perhaps that has been part of it, the ability to retain the precious gift of youth. Alongside Shane Warne, the Indian master has been the most satisfying cricketer of his generation.

Tendulkar's feats are prodigious. He has scored as many runs overseas as in his backyard, has flogged Brett Lee at his fastest and Shane Warne at his most obtuse, has flourished against swing and cut, prospered in damp and dry. Nor can his record be taken for granted. Batsmen exist primarily to score runs. It is a damnably difficult task made to look easy by a handful of expert practitioners. Others have promised and fallen back, undone by the demands, unable to meet the moment. Tendulkar has kept going, on his toes, seeking runs in his twinkling way.

In part he has lasted so long because there has been so little inner strain. It's hard to think of a player remotely comparable who has spent so little energy conquering himself. Throughout, Tendulkar has been able to concentrate on overcoming his opponents.

But it has not only been about runs. Along the way Tendulkar has provided an unsurpassed blend of the sublime and the precise. In him the technical and the natural sit side by side, friends not enemies, allies deep in conversation. Romantics talk about those early morning trips to Shivaji Park, and the child eager to erect the nets and anxious to bat till someone took his wicket. They want to believe that toil alone can produce that straight drive and a bat so broad that periodically it is measured. But it was not like that.

From the start the lad had an uncanny way of executing his strokes perfectly. His boyhood coaches insist that their role was to ensure that he remained unspoilt. There was no apprenticeship. Tendulkar was born to bat.

Over the decades it has been Tendulkar's rare combination of mastery and boldness that has delighted connoisseurs and crowds alike. More than any other batsman, even Brian Lara, Tendulkar's batting has provoked gasps of admiration. A single withering drive dispatched along the ground, eluding the bowler, placed unerringly between fieldsmen, can provoke wonder even amongst the oldest hands. A solitary square cut is enough to make a spectator's day.

Tendulkar might lose his wicket cheaply but he is incapable of playing an ugly stroke. His defence might have been designed by Christopher Wren. And alongside these muscular orthodoxies could be found ornate flicks through the on-side, glides off his bulky pads that sent tight deliveries dashing on unexpected journeys into the back and beyond. Viv Richards could terrorise an attack with pitiless brutality, Lara could dissect bowlers with surgical and magical strokes, Tendulkar can take an attack apart with towering simplicity.

In part Tendulkar has lasted so long because there has been so little inner strain. It's hard to think of a player remotely comparable who has spent so little energy conquering himself

Nor has Tendulkar ever stooped to dullness or cynicism. Throughout, his wits have remained sharp and originality has been given its due. He has, too, been remarkably constant. In those early appearances, he relished the little improvisations calculated to send bowlers to the madhouse: cheeky strokes that told of ability and nerve. For a time thereafter he put them into the cupboard, not because respectability beckoned or responsibility weighed him down but because they were not required. Shot selection, his very sense of the game, counts amongst his qualities.

On his most recent trip to Australia, though, he decided to restore audacity, cheekily undercutting lifters, directing the ball between fieldsmen, shots the bowlers regarded as beyond the pale. Even in middle age he remains unbroken. Hyderabad confirmed his durability.

And yet, even this, the runs, the majesty, the thrills, does not capture his achievement. Reflect upon his circumstances and then marvel at his feat. Here is a man obliged to put on disguises so that he can move around the streets, a fellow able to drive his cars only in the dead of night for fear or creating a commotion, a father forced to take his family to Iceland on holiday, a person whose entire adult life has been lived in the eye of a storm. Throughout he has been public property, India's proudest possession, a young man and yet also a source of joy for millions, a sportsman and yet, too, an expression of a vast and ever-changing nation. Somehow he has managed to keep the world in its rightful place. Somehow he has raised children who relish his company and tease him about his batting. Whenever he loses his wicket in the 90s, a not uncommon occurrence, his boy asks why he does not "hit a sixer".

Somehow he has emerged with an almost untarnished reputation. Inevitably mistakes have been made. Something about a car, something else about a cricket ball, and suggestions that he had stretched the facts to assist his pal Harbhajan Singh. But then he is no secular saint. It's enough that he is expected to bat better than anyone else. It's hardly fair to ask him to match Mother Teresa as well.

At times India has sprung too quickly to his defence, as if a point made against him was an insult to the nation, as if he were beyond censure. A poor lbw decision- and he has had his allocation- can all too easily be turned into a cause celebre. Happily Tendulkar has always retained his equanimity. He is a sportsman as well as a cricketer. By no means has it been the least of his contributions, and it explains his widespread popularity. Not even Placido Domingo has been given more standing ovations.

And there has been another quality that has sustained him, a trait whose importance cannot be overstated. Not long ago Keith Richards, lead guitarist with the Rolling Stones, was asked how the band had kept going for so long, spent so many decades on the road, made so many records, put up with so much attention. His reply was as simple as it as telling. "We love it," he explained, "we just love playing." And so it has always been with Tendulkar. It's never been hard for him to play cricket. The hard part will be stopping. But he will take into retirement a mighty record and the knowledge that he has given enormous pleasure to followers of the game wherever it is played.

Peter Roebuck is a former captain of Somerset and the author, most recently, of In It to Win It. This article was first published in Sportstar magazine

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  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:59 GMT

    If Sachin had played one day cricket in the middle order which he had done till 1994 then his average and number of centuries would have been half of what it was. He wasnt that great a batsman when he was playing in the middle order in one day cricket..its only after he started opening the runs began to come fast

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:56 GMT

    I certainly am not an ignorant fan mr. kpisthebest..in fact you seriously seem totally ignorant to me..because your thoughts are so purely based on statistics what you are vomiting out. Dont you have a mind of your own or is it like the story of one rat following the other rats..herd mentality as in cattle also.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:46 GMT

    hey you are all repeating statistics which everyone knows ..please what we need is not statistics..What we need is people who can see through all this drama

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:42 GMT

    hey unlike what you think i do know all about cricket more than you might ever know so dont ever assume that i dont know. If you had read what i had written you would know that i wrote gavaskar from the middle of his career towards the latter stages was a lot more focused on personal milestones. Why are milestones glorified so much only in India..because we have been taught to value these individual things more. Sehwag doesnt play for records but i was talking about tendulkar. Lara and Tendulkar will always be considered great but in the years to come there will always be something thought to be missing ..did the team actually win a lot? We have so many great names yet we cant win even a game in the champions trophy..when we became 20/20 champs in 2007 world beaters this and that the media went on..But when pakistan won it this time...its all become silent. Thats how crazy the hype is

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 16, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    @kpisthebest. Yes Tendulkar is great. He stands along with LARA, PONTING, RICHARDS, WARNE, MCGRATH, JACK HOBBS, WOOLLEY, HEADLEY, GARFIELD SOBERS, MURALI and others in elite cricketers. This is NOT just for you. also the media hyped indian fans who make him GOD, GANDHI so on :))......................NEXT......

    @BLUENATION. It was not just MURALI, HARBHAJAN caught for throwing. 30yrs ago bent arm action is prohibited, now ICC permitted benting arms to certain degree. Johan Botha, indian rookie speedster KAMRAN KHAN, Jeramaine Lawson and many were caught too. Infact Indian spinner BEDI also said according to him, murali is chucker, KAPIL warned Harbhajan not to put doosra if he bents like a javalin thrower..Its all modernization, during RICHARDS era no Powerplays and ODIs werent played as much as it was in last 8yrs, now rules changed. accept it, MURALI has 800 wickets. 1 wicket is 25 runs as per cricketing statistics, so 20000 Test runs, MURALI is god and greatest. Do you agree :))

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:28 GMT

    are we talking about sehwag or tendulkar now you people seem confused

  • POSTED BY Mina_Anand on | November 16, 2009, 17:35 GMT

    This is again, for JackJak: By the way, has JJ, heard of a batsman called Sehwag - who, when on 195, steps out for a six, and gets out ! Who gets to his first triple century - with a six ! And yes, scores the fastest 300, ever !!

  • POSTED BY Mina_Anand on | November 16, 2009, 17:32 GMT

    This is for JackJak: If he thinks Indian batsmen 'crawl to their hundreds' and 'play for records', then he obviously doesn't know the game of cricket. There are sometimes, scenarios, when a batsman has to play for the team, assess the situation - stay on at the crease. And much as he would like to get his hundred quickly, he has to rein in. But you can't please everyone. If Sachin and Gavaskar hit out and get out, in their nineties, people would say - how selfish, they should have stayed on - just want their hundreds and are not playing for the team ! (Incidentally, Sachin has recently, got out often enough, in his 90s !) Maybe JJ has not heard of a Gavaskar spearheading India to a successful world-record chase of over 400 runs in the fourth innings, in 1976, at the Queen's Park Oval, against a rampaging West Indies team? Maybe he has not seen the Desert Storm innings of a Sachin Tendulkar, to name a few, out of the many scintillating knocks. contd...

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 16, 2009, 17:32 GMT

    Jackjak,

    So do you think Tendulkar didn't play for the team at Capetown, Old Trafford, Perth, Edgbaston, Madras, Colombo, Centurion, Bloemfontein, Sydney in the cbseries and many more?

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 16, 2009, 17:29 GMT

    Vansan,

    So in what way is that related to Tendulkar being not a great?

    I have shown that Tendulkar has won games.

    I have shown that Tendulkar has stood firm amidst the ruins like at Perth and Edgbaston.

    He is consistent.

    So what else is needed for a player to be known as great. Don't go off the topic.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:59 GMT

    If Sachin had played one day cricket in the middle order which he had done till 1994 then his average and number of centuries would have been half of what it was. He wasnt that great a batsman when he was playing in the middle order in one day cricket..its only after he started opening the runs began to come fast

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:56 GMT

    I certainly am not an ignorant fan mr. kpisthebest..in fact you seriously seem totally ignorant to me..because your thoughts are so purely based on statistics what you are vomiting out. Dont you have a mind of your own or is it like the story of one rat following the other rats..herd mentality as in cattle also.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:46 GMT

    hey you are all repeating statistics which everyone knows ..please what we need is not statistics..What we need is people who can see through all this drama

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:42 GMT

    hey unlike what you think i do know all about cricket more than you might ever know so dont ever assume that i dont know. If you had read what i had written you would know that i wrote gavaskar from the middle of his career towards the latter stages was a lot more focused on personal milestones. Why are milestones glorified so much only in India..because we have been taught to value these individual things more. Sehwag doesnt play for records but i was talking about tendulkar. Lara and Tendulkar will always be considered great but in the years to come there will always be something thought to be missing ..did the team actually win a lot? We have so many great names yet we cant win even a game in the champions trophy..when we became 20/20 champs in 2007 world beaters this and that the media went on..But when pakistan won it this time...its all become silent. Thats how crazy the hype is

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 16, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    @kpisthebest. Yes Tendulkar is great. He stands along with LARA, PONTING, RICHARDS, WARNE, MCGRATH, JACK HOBBS, WOOLLEY, HEADLEY, GARFIELD SOBERS, MURALI and others in elite cricketers. This is NOT just for you. also the media hyped indian fans who make him GOD, GANDHI so on :))......................NEXT......

    @BLUENATION. It was not just MURALI, HARBHAJAN caught for throwing. 30yrs ago bent arm action is prohibited, now ICC permitted benting arms to certain degree. Johan Botha, indian rookie speedster KAMRAN KHAN, Jeramaine Lawson and many were caught too. Infact Indian spinner BEDI also said according to him, murali is chucker, KAPIL warned Harbhajan not to put doosra if he bents like a javalin thrower..Its all modernization, during RICHARDS era no Powerplays and ODIs werent played as much as it was in last 8yrs, now rules changed. accept it, MURALI has 800 wickets. 1 wicket is 25 runs as per cricketing statistics, so 20000 Test runs, MURALI is god and greatest. Do you agree :))

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 18:28 GMT

    are we talking about sehwag or tendulkar now you people seem confused

  • POSTED BY Mina_Anand on | November 16, 2009, 17:35 GMT

    This is again, for JackJak: By the way, has JJ, heard of a batsman called Sehwag - who, when on 195, steps out for a six, and gets out ! Who gets to his first triple century - with a six ! And yes, scores the fastest 300, ever !!

  • POSTED BY Mina_Anand on | November 16, 2009, 17:32 GMT

    This is for JackJak: If he thinks Indian batsmen 'crawl to their hundreds' and 'play for records', then he obviously doesn't know the game of cricket. There are sometimes, scenarios, when a batsman has to play for the team, assess the situation - stay on at the crease. And much as he would like to get his hundred quickly, he has to rein in. But you can't please everyone. If Sachin and Gavaskar hit out and get out, in their nineties, people would say - how selfish, they should have stayed on - just want their hundreds and are not playing for the team ! (Incidentally, Sachin has recently, got out often enough, in his 90s !) Maybe JJ has not heard of a Gavaskar spearheading India to a successful world-record chase of over 400 runs in the fourth innings, in 1976, at the Queen's Park Oval, against a rampaging West Indies team? Maybe he has not seen the Desert Storm innings of a Sachin Tendulkar, to name a few, out of the many scintillating knocks. contd...

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 16, 2009, 17:32 GMT

    Jackjak,

    So do you think Tendulkar didn't play for the team at Capetown, Old Trafford, Perth, Edgbaston, Madras, Colombo, Centurion, Bloemfontein, Sydney in the cbseries and many more?

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 16, 2009, 17:29 GMT

    Vansan,

    So in what way is that related to Tendulkar being not a great?

    I have shown that Tendulkar has won games.

    I have shown that Tendulkar has stood firm amidst the ruins like at Perth and Edgbaston.

    He is consistent.

    So what else is needed for a player to be known as great. Don't go off the topic.

  • POSTED BY pankajkumarsingh on | November 16, 2009, 15:47 GMT

    @V.Gomes - I was just bringing out the statistics, debating your initial comment. Fielding at silly point was a silly point you bring forward. You were not commenting on his fielding abilities, you mentioned about him not admitting about his failure to win the world cup. I isputed that point. Someone mentioned Jayasurya and Lara. I merely said he has won more man of series award (including a world cup man-of-series) more that Ponting and Lara put together. But since you did change the topic and brought up others like Dravid, Saurav and Kumble - exactly how many one day games have they won for India - compared to Tendulkar? You also say that powerplays has been a major contributor to his game. Let me state this - Tendulkar has hit less 6s than Hayden, Jayasurya or Gilchrist - Lords of Powerplays. Ironical, no? Lets just say for the sake of argument, he did use Powerplays. That option was available to all the openers in the world, no?

  • POSTED BY BlueNation on | November 16, 2009, 15:19 GMT

    Alex it is good that you love to WIN and only to WIN. There is no team or player in any field of game or in life without loosing. You like a team like OZ which will do anything to win like cheating, sledging, cry when other team sledges back, put some doubt on bowlers action when not able to play the bowling (Murali, Harbajan, som, etc..), etc….

    Here in you post you were comparing Sachin against OZ team, that is the greatness of Sachin. What ever happens in cricket that is compared with Sachin. I don't know where are you from? but from your post it is clear that you are jealous on Indian and its development. You even compared Indian IT in your post. I think in your own dream China will beat India in cricket and in IT. Before commenting on India please look at your own country stand in cricket and development and try to concentrate on that.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 14:06 GMT

    how can anyone compare a batsman to a leg spinner. Both were good at what they did. India worships cricketers because Indians dont have any real sporting heroes to talk about nor do we develop or encourage any other sport in our country. All the flies get attracted to where the money is...and thats the story of india. The media..commentators everyone is always talking about india...cant anyone notice this. the other side is not important. Thats because all the money comes from here. But whats more important is improving the talent pool and depth of our cricket and not just swelling the bank balance of these elitist cricketers which is like a club

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 16, 2009, 13:57 GMT

    Yeah Indians are hooked onto statistics given to them by the media. And to be an honest observer of the game one doesnt have to be called the enemy of India..if one wants to stress their opinion. Gavaskar was a run accumulating record breaker who valued records much more especially towards the middle and end of his career..and the same goes with Sachin. That doesnt mean they are not good batsmen or even great batsmen if you want to call them but a true attacking batsman like Gilchrist played such an unselfish game..if he was on 95 too he would try to whack the ball the same way..and not crawl for one hour to reach another 100...if one plays like that the team doesnt benefit ..but the individual does.

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 16, 2009, 12:36 GMT

    @kpisthebest, I could see u r another crybaby jealous of Aussies, Listen all Sachin fans, Sachin holds the record of most International runs . Ponting Holds the record of most International wins, Lara holds record of 11 innings of more than 200+, Bevan Holds the record of best finisher so far especially in 2nd batting in ODIs, Richards has multiple achievements 2 WC winner, best finisher, a good average in ODIs whose career is before 1995. He held all the ODI records which Sachin has now in 1987 itself, so all things here is contemporary. I feel pity for rest 10 members in INDIA TEAM coz they will never get any credit as long as SACHIN is in squad. For Every Ones Info, SUNNY GAVASKAR has the record for most centuries against West Indies (Calypso Champions of Lloyds Era) which TENDULKAR surely would never break..:). But someday someone will break that too

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 16, 2009, 7:01 GMT

    Alexk,

    If that is your argument I would say that under Ponting Australia lost of all teams to England in the Ashes!

    Any comments about that?

  • POSTED BY CricFan78 on | November 16, 2009, 6:52 GMT

    Alex India U-25 team whipped Ponting and his boys in CB series last year. Ponting and co. hasnt won any of last six Tests against India. Ponting hasnt in fact won a Test series in India (2003 was Gilly winning it). Ponting has lost 2 Ashes as Australian captain in England. Ponting scores at paltry average of 20 in India. See how great is he :-)

  • POSTED BY SoftwareStar on | November 16, 2009, 6:23 GMT

    for us Indians especially, let us appreciate the fact that for the past 20 years, he has been a real good role model for all of us. no controversies at all.. All parents would be glad that their sons have chosen a good hero to follow than follow drug addicted rock stars (or athletes) or cigaratte puffing bollywood heros who just dont care about the fact that they are influencing the youth bigtime.

  • POSTED BY Farce-Follower on | November 16, 2009, 4:48 GMT

    Like 99.99% of Indians, I too was a Sachin fan till about 2003. That's when I realised that Australians don't needlessly idolise greats like Gilly or Warne, unless they deliver as a team. Gilly does not slow down in the 90 to get to his 25th century. All Sachin fans - Sachin may be the engine to the team car, but what use if the car always sputters at the end. And don't ever delude yourselves that you know everything about cricket. I agree most Sachin fans know one thing - statistics and don't know another - winning.

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 16, 2009, 4:30 GMT

    Jackjak,

    You have again got it wrong as Tendulkar is a great batsman and that is where it should end.

    Great is a word which is used too often but it suits Tendulkar.

  • POSTED BY barwala_vasi on | November 16, 2009, 1:43 GMT

    I am not a 'big' Sachin fan but in my mind I have no doubt that he is the greatest Indian batsmen to ever played. Sometimes we worry to much about the destination and forget to enjoy the journey. It has been a one helleve journey so far. We always look for role models in celebrities and if there is one who fits that bill he is the one. Guys enjoy as long as you can for there may not be another Sachin for a long long time if not ever.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 15, 2009, 18:43 GMT

    Thanks again Cricinfo for posting my comments. It is shocking to me that they allow critiqing posts. It seems like cricinfo mods and editors enlightened suddenly?. Hope it stays the same way. you have to listen to both sides. I can play sachin fan also. But it wil be jingoism. So i play devils advocate.

    I want india and Indian media hype WINNING NOT LOSING!. everyone forgot aussie whipped INDIA with their 3rd team.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 15, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    Have anyone noticed 3rd string Australian Team beat very good Indian ODI team with great batsman of all time in sachin. it shows who is greatest batsman. Ponting. He is able to inspire ever injured watson and others to fight to win. WIN WIN that is what counts for me. Useless runs and records for losers!. I will take a worldcup win against 30000 ODI runs any day.

    The whole sachin this and sachin that nauseating!. I am not even australian but i like people who go anything to WIN. Winning is a positive thing. Anything else a mediocre loser's obsession for truvial things.

    India need to grow up and get obsessed with WINNING. Or chinese will even beat india in cricket and IT. India will be keep babbling on past laurels and every one will speed past india.

    people, Never accept losing. It is wrong top to bottom. Sachin is a chokedulkar!.

  • POSTED BY ms2geet on | November 15, 2009, 17:47 GMT

    Its pity that sachin is threatened to be overtaken soon by ponting.If any one is to be blamed for the same is BCCI.It is indulged in organising meaningless 20-20 tournaments at the cost of test matches.Whereas aussies playing number of 5 test match series India is keen to play 7 match one day series. BCCI is running after money and ruining the future of real cricket,the test matches.

  • POSTED BY leelaravikiran on | November 15, 2009, 17:22 GMT

    There were days in India when a cricket match was going on all business was held stand still. If Sachin got out then the nation had gone back to its normal routine. He was life god to the cricket lovers. No matter "how many run he scored how many centuries he scored how many catches he has taken how many man of the matches he received" he is, was, and will be, the best cricketer ever. Our generation is very privileged to witness such an extraordinary player.

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 15, 2009, 17:00 GMT

    The Lankan team of the 96 world cup wasn't average as it was suited to the subcontinental conditions.

    It is a team game otherwise as I said that Andy Flower or even Lara aren't good enough as the team didn't done well.

    Tendulkar's haters though can't understand the meaning of the team game.

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 15, 2009, 16:47 GMT

    I am no fan of Tendulkar either but it is just crap to say that Tendulkar isn't a great player and I do rate Richards better than Tendulkar but that doesn't mean that Tendulkar isn't a great player.

    Dravid is a very good player but Tendulkar is a great player and that is the simple truth.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 15, 2009, 16:40 GMT

    Sachin is a good batsman and thats where it should end. Look at countries like Australia and England which have a sporty background. They dont make an individual so big that the team looks like nothing. They too talked about steve waugh, ricky ponting but when the time comes...they say okay its time to go and no hard feelings. If steve waugh was an indian he would be still playing. They have other sports Aussies and England, West indies, south africa but India has only one game cricket and even among so few countries that play the game we can say honestly that our true ranking should be 4 or 5 because our bowling is pathetic, fielding no need to even talk about and then we have a few good batsmen on top and if its their day on a perfect batting strip then its perfect.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 15, 2009, 16:35 GMT

    rajneeshamin at least your mind is open unlike others. ya india they make them demi-gods build temples...Its all one big drama and ever since the media became ever so powerful it has only become worse. It wasnt this bad 15 years back. Does anybody question where all this black money is coming from which the crook Lalith Modi is rotating running IPL. We can feed a lot of the poor people with that kind of money...instead $2 million prize money auctions:) this and that. What a farce. The Chepauk stadium looks the same past 20 years..hype make money and dont give anything back to the people..and people dont even realize

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 15, 2009, 15:43 GMT

    V Gomes .. there is a difference between great cricketer and champions.. if you take that winning world cup is the only criteria for greatness then Kasproviz is a great cricketer compared to BC lara.I recommend you revisit the 96 world cup stats and try to remember how the cup was won.. In addition to Jayasuriya firing all cylinders they had able support in the form of Arjuna Ranatunga, Roshan Mahanama and Arvinda Di Silva in the batting lineup who although are not in the same league as Sanath came good in the series and scored good runs whereas Indians relied only on Sachin to deliver the goods. I don't know which country you're from, but all i can say is keep off from commenting about a country which you know nothing of. One thing you need to understand is that only putting in efforts is in your hands and the results of those aren't. And we believe that Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar put his whole hearted efforts into the thing he loves. So We love him. Keep off the page if you disagree

  • POSTED BY CricFan78 on | November 15, 2009, 14:43 GMT

    V Gomes do you even know anything about cricket? Are you saying that its Sachin's fault that despite scoring highest number of runs ever in World Cup its his fault that India hasnt won a world cup? I wonder what you have achieved in life other than slating great personalities and sportsperson on internet

  • POSTED BY V.GOMES on | November 15, 2009, 14:31 GMT

    Comparing batsmen in ODI is difficult. Runs are meaning less unless they are scored when the team needs it to win. A good strike-rate is easy for an opener (ie. Sachin) with all power-plays to work with. So how can you use it to prove his superiority in ODI cricket with the advent of powerplays and fielding restrictions, Bottom line is, stats and records are just stats and records UNLESS the player ALSO has the ultimate gold medal of cricket to go with it - THE WORLD CUP. Only then can we even think of comparing him to batting legends like Ponting, Jayasuria, Viv, etc. Like it or not, this is a TEAM GAME.

  • POSTED BY V.GOMES on | November 15, 2009, 14:29 GMT

    Comparing batsmen in ODI is difficult. Runs are meaning less unless they are scored when the team needs it to win. A good strike-rate is easy for an opener (ie. Sachin) with all power-plays to work with. So how can you use it to prove his superiority in ODI cricket with the advent of powerplays and fielding restrictions, Bottom line is, stats and records are just stats and records UNLESS the player ALSO has the ultimate gold medal of cricket to go with it - THE WORLD CUP. Only then can we even think of comparing him to batting legends like Ponting, Jayasuria, Viv, etc. Like it or not, this is a TEAM GAME.

  • POSTED BY BeatTheChamps on | November 15, 2009, 14:19 GMT

    Sachin bashers here need serious help in their life

  • POSTED BY rajneeshamin0101 on | November 15, 2009, 12:41 GMT

    JackJak, i am no die hard cricket fan and strongly believe that the other sports get neither the funding nor the recognition that they deserve. Cricket at many points has only flattered to deceive. There is no doubt that Sachin is one of the legends of the game but the media and a cricket crazy nation has converted him to a demi-god. Even Sachin for that matter would not subscribe to all the praises that we bestow upon him. But I think its important to recognize his contribution to the sport and appreciate him as an individual in an otherwise team sport in a dog eat dog world. I pretty much subscribe to all your other points. Cheers mate!

  • POSTED BY Devz greatS on | November 15, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    SRT is the best of all time. He is the best of the last decade and of this decade. He is the best of last century and of this century.

    You guys say he is merely a run-accumulator. Well, cricket is all about runs. The team score more runs...wins. He cannot be a selfish batsman, cuz his strike rate is more than 80[or 85?] with an impressive batting average.

    So, he is the best......proved by YOUR WORDS. Don't believe me? Well, ask McGrath, Warne and Steve. You can also ask Dravid, Lara, Richie Benaud, Bary Richards, Viv Richards, Wasim Akram etc etc.

  • POSTED BY V.GOMES on | November 15, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    Let's not waste anymore time stating our point because these "Sachin fans" just don't get it. All I can say to all the "Sachin fans" is - keep glorifying the art of loosing cricket. Why is the World Cup so important. Because, just like in other team sports, the world cup is the ultimate stage where greatness is tested. Ponting and Jayasuria are champions. One took a good Australian side(s) to many world cups. The other took an average Sri Lankan team (country with a population of 20 mil people) to a world cup. They are not just winners they are champions. True pride of their respective nations. But unfortunately in India, cricket is like a 20 year old soap opra,.. where men cry, then smile a little and the cry some more like in the 2007 world cup.

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 15, 2009, 12:12 GMT

    Alexk.. all you want is to say that dravid is the best batsman ever for india. you say that he never shied away from a fight. But fact is sachin never shied away from any fight. despite having cramps many a time due to playing long innings, he battled till the last for victory. You are talking as if sachin never scored in any major tournament. He was the lynchpin in 96 world cup scoring 523 runs. He played a match less than dravid in 99 and was 2nd top scorer that time too.. He was the reason india was in the 03 finals. You mean to say that sachin is responsible for others failure.. it's a load of crap. I'm 6'1 and i believe sachin is the greatest of da generation. Sachin talks about 20 years of cricket because he's asked to. None wil ask dravid to talk about 20 years because he was DROPPED out of squad deemed unfit for ODI's. Every thing you talk is TRASH. A game becomes dead only after sachin get's out.. Till he's there there's a chance of winnin.. That cant be true in case of dravid

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 15, 2009, 11:36 GMT

    Farce follower and Alexk,

    In that regard Andy Flower played only for records as whenever he scored a hundred Zimb usually lost and he must be the worst batsmen in the world.

    Neither did Lara win a world cup for the Caribbean team and as per that argument Lehmann is a better batsman as Aus won the world cup in 99 and he was a part of that team.

    Cricket is a team game.

    One should be ashamed of Tendulkar as well because at the tender age of 17 he helped India to draw the match at Old Tarfford when other experienced players failed.

    Him scoring that century at Perth and standing amidst the ruins means nothing.

    Hm getting that hundred at Edgbaston with the next highest score being 18 means nothing.

    His match winning knock at Madras against Aus and England were rubbish as were his match winning knocks at Sarjah and in the Cbseries.

    Him scoring a century at Capetown with India tottering at 59 is useless as again he didn't play for others and many many more!

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 15, 2009, 11:09 GMT

    And i didnt do it with the idea of comparing sachin to previous batsmen...but somebody here talked about Ponting and how he didnt have to face..So i was just talking about that. Please read what i wrote before jumping. Obviously we cant compare ..those were different times when there was hardly any money in the game...Now billions are floating around. Can we even think of comparing. If half the black money that goes into the IPL were to go into the development of other sport too India would start doing better. We have only one sport Cricket and thats where all the money is so people are getting too infatuated. New age fans deep down i am sure you understand but u dont want to

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 15, 2009, 11:03 GMT

    Hey nobody is being biased or against Sachin here...But are you aware that this is a team game. All the money generated comes from India and hence anything any Indian does or Team india does gets hyped. Past one week all that one can see on TV is Sachin Tendulkar and same with the newspapers. Everyone understands that he has played 20 years but that doesnt mean one should go on and on. We live in a time of commercialization and selling and Sachin is a Brand name which the companies use through the media. There is a much bigger picture here and its not just about sport its much much more...Sachin Dhoni are Brands so its their need to trumpet their deeds constantly.

  • POSTED BY rajneeshamin0101 on | November 15, 2009, 9:42 GMT

    To V. Gomes and JackJak. Your arguments are no less flawed than the over the top Sachin Fans. For once please do go through the stats presented elsewhere in cricinfo about Sachin's records as a match winner and you will find your answers. JackJak, how Sachin would face the bowling of Malcolm Marshall and others is like comparing how the bowlers of that era would be facing current year batsmen, flat batting pitches and the number of ODIs being played. If you both insist on B C Lara being the greatest then you are forgetting that he hasnt faced the bowlers you have mentioned. You cannot apply different yeardsticks to judge two players of the same era! If you really want to contribute something here, please be honest and not biased!

  • POSTED BY rohan024 on | November 15, 2009, 8:48 GMT

    There have been many greats before like gavaskar, chappel, zaheer abbas and there will be many afterwards like peterson, dravid & ponting but there is and there was only 1 true legend - Sachin Tendulkar. VGomes & alexx will always be there as Sachin has always been neighbours envy (Pakistan, SL) and owner's pride (India)..He id the highest WC scorer, the highest scorer against australia and the highest scorer in AWAY matches. No more proofs are required to determine whos the best of all - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar..The ultimate matchwinner and heartwinner who scored against all - Ambrose & walsh, Hughes & Mcgrath, Murali & Warne, Akram & Waqar..Sachin aala re.

  • POSTED BY Farce-Follower on | November 15, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    20 years of meeting expectations...but what expectations did Indians have? Unfortunately only of setting personal milestones, never a team achievement. I am ashamed to say this, but India is the only country that can derive solace from team loss, when some meaningless statistic like 17000 runs or 45 centuries or 3000 runs against an opponent is achieved. If this is India's expectation, then Sachin has indeed met them. But if Silverware like WC is our expectation, brace yourself for disappointment. I will not be surprised if Sachin plays in WC 2015. He would have scored 22000 ODI runs by then. Be prepared for special issues etc. Winning the WC is another thing.

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 15, 2009, 7:02 GMT

    I once saw Tendulkar pull and cut Ambrose and Bishop on a dicey track in the Caribbean in 97 in a onedayer before the umpire wrongly gave him out.

    The thing to look at was though he just scored 46 or something like that in that match he looked at ease playing against Ambi and co. as others struggled on that pitch but unfortunately ignorant fans like Jackjak just make assumptions and talk.

  • POSTED BY CricFan24 on | November 15, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    Best part is that even after 20 yrs (REPEAT - 20 YRS)Noone but Noone can raise the passions like Tendulkar can!! We have seen the love, adoration,adulation and respect with which he is received ALL around the world- most recently hyderabad,India. So one thing is for SURE.......99.99% of ALL anti sachin comments are from one particular country which cant stomach the fact that SACHIN IS THE GREATEST BATSMAN OF ALL TIME.

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 15, 2009, 6:50 GMT

    Jackjak,

    By saying that Tendulkar is suspect do you mean the following?

    Tendulkar's century at Perth in 92/93 against McDermott and Hughes on a lightning quick track when the next highest score was 48 in 92/93? Do you mean his 116 at Edgbaston on a track where it was moving around and the next highest score was 18? maybe you are referring to his hundred at Basin reserve when again other Indian players fell like a pack of cards, his century at Capetown when Donald and co. were frightening other Indian players as only Tendulkar stood firm amongst the ruins, maybe you are referring to his 194 at Headingley when it was doing a bit but Tendulkar smashed all the bowlers, his 155 on a turning track at Madras in 98?

    So my friend please think before you talk!!!

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 15, 2009, 6:40 GMT

    Alexk,

    Anyone who saw Tendulkar smash warne and score 155 at Madras on a turning track won't say that that.

    I assume that you are just an ignorant cricket fan.

  • POSTED BY CricFan78 on | November 15, 2009, 6:37 GMT

    Bit of shame that lot of windup merchants has invaded this article. Sachin is greatest cricketer India has ever produced. For people saying he hasnt won many matches hardly know anything about cricket. He has had won most man of matches than any other cricketer. Winning Tests require team work and prime example is that India would have drawn that famous 2001 Test at Eden Gardens against Aus if Sachin had not taken 3 wkts in last session of Test to trigger a collapse.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 15, 2009, 6:04 GMT

    Ok he won few games , what about any major trophy? champions trophy? world cup. Enough said. We are talking about greatness. It is defined by how you helped the team in major competition. If others fail when he bat well , that is because he do not inspire others to fight along with him. Sachin is in his own bubble when he bats. He is not a leader. He is not even great batsman for the world. May be for few loyal sachin fans who are as tiny as him. sachin can be GOD to 4 feet guy. I am indian , i rate people by how desperately they want to win not records and stats. sachin is talking about his 20 years of cricket shows this guy need more attention than winning. i like people fight at dire situation. That is why in my mind and even world's mind Rahul dravid is the greatest indian batsman ever!. He will never shy away from fight. Sachin may have better skill but he never used it for india except raise his stats in usless dead games. Rahul dravid is true champion. tenacity!.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 15, 2009, 5:39 GMT

    Only V. Gomez makes sense here...Others are the new age cricket fans who have not seen Malcolm Marshall bowling at his peak to gavaskar or mohinder amarnath. Tendulkar has never opened the batting in test matches and i have to wonder how he would have done had he faced Malcolm marshall, patrick patterson, Joel garner, dennis lillee wasim akram, imran khan. As a one day batsman he has been pretty good over the years but test matches in conditions which suit the bowlers he has always been suspect. Now anyway pitches have become so batsmen oriented that his average has gone up abroad too. So when you talk about tendulkar be objective ..dont be swayed by the media!

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 15, 2009, 4:55 GMT

    @alexk400 i think that you hid yourself everytime sachin came to bat. I think you didn't see his batting against austrailia in sharjah 98, in australia 01,04,07-08 when he won matches for india. not to forget his debut century against england which saved the match. 136 against pak which india lost narrowly. check the details and then talk. World famous cricket experts rate him as the best batsman of this generation right after sir don just for his cricketing skills and performance.. why does india lose almost every time he doesn't perform...? and dravid saved no matches single handedly for india.. all his top scores required someone else taking the pressure off him unlike sachin who takes most of the heat himself. That is becoz opponents consider him the main threat than his partner in most of the cases. That is the importance of SRT. He can adapt to any situation and play accordingly. That is why he's reckoned as world's best at the present.. Just put some thought before u talk...

  • POSTED BY knowledge_eater on | November 15, 2009, 4:50 GMT

    My fellow Sachin lovers and Criticizers .. there is whole new web page opened up just all about Sachin.. check it out .. Thank you Cricinfo .. I love Cricinfo .. Thank you Mr. Peter. I off to study now, i am going to save that webpage and read it later. I like the video version of it but where is the rest !! People just check it out stop wasting your time fighting here. I think we are forgetting something .. Sachin is still not done playing cricket. More to come from him. Personally, great players don't envy these much as much as we do to each other. We should learn something from them. What I learn from this little guy (i am 5.7' yee) Do hard work + Do what you love + Do respectfully and Gracefully. Thank you

  • POSTED BY V.GOMES on | November 15, 2009, 4:49 GMT

    The article by Peter was great, but the comments (from Sachin fans) are over the top as usual. @ pankajkumarsingh whether you like it or not cricket is a team game where the most important stat is wins/loss. By glorifying a man who has lost more games than any cricketer in the history of the sport, means you are glorifying the art of loosing. How can you say that Sachin never had a good team. Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble, etc. 2 decades worth of players, who according to Indian media are Gods, worriers or Kings :-) The best ODI batsman of all time should be Ponting (for all he has achieved with good and not so good teams eg: 2009 champions trophy). The best test batsmen of all time is Lara (this distinction needs no explanation) Runs can be accumulated, especially if Sachin insist on being an opener batting through power-plays. So don't judge players based on runs & awards. Did you see Ponting field at silly point during this last ODI series,.. you would never see Sachin do that.

  • POSTED BY Mervo on | November 15, 2009, 4:37 GMT

    I have posted on here many times but my comments are never published as I am not Indian. I don't complain. Personally I don't think Tendulkar is so great. I suspect that despite all the hype he is a wonderful and enduring cricketer, much like Alan Border - not a great game changer or winner. This is not anti-Indian but my personal assessment. It wont get posted as it disagrees with the theme running ....

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 15, 2009, 4:22 GMT

    For me sachin is just great technical batsman with run accumulating skills because he is so small physically. His strokes resembles how to save energy and score runs will less energy spent. That is the only thing. He is not india's greatest batsman that must and should go to Rahul dravid. Sachin is not God of cricket , he never won anything of importance for indian when india needed him most. he choked so often i start to call him chokedulkar.

    Not all of india's loss attributed to tendulkar but he never saved or won any game of importance on his own!. So sachin is not Greatest , not even great. Just a decent batsman but greatest run accumulator Ever!.

    Idol worship is wrong. Only weak worship. Only people who can not think further say he is god , that is god etc. God do not exist. It is figament of imagination to stop humans from committing suicide as his life need some form of unattainable purpose to keep him alive in his normal duration of his life.

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 15, 2009, 4:15 GMT

    @ Vansan You don't seem to get my point at all...? How can you comment say that sachin is selfish compared to jayasuriya who played till he was 40, mostly out of form than being in-form with sachin who still performs consistently to this level. If you look back to the 96 world cup semi finals it was sachin who took 2 wickets, a catch and scored 65 of the 120 scored by india. You are just frustrated about him being on the summit of most of the records and taking it out on him by saying he's playing for records.. In the hyd game he rotated strike to jadeja more than hogging it himself if he plays for records coz he could've made 200 easily that day. Still he gave jadeja the strike for the benifit of the team. Sachin played a passive role so late in the innings to try and win the match for india which unluckily he couldn't. As i said the only mistake he did was not to SHINE enough to cover the shortcomings of the whole team. I'd be happy if you show me PROOF not baseless comments on these

  • POSTED BY BeatTheChamps on | November 15, 2009, 2:56 GMT

    I feel so fortunate to have seen all the 20 years of cricket that Sachin has played so far! He's truly beyond comparison and beyond statistics. People will always find a way to criticize legends and I don't blame them for that. Those who know Sachin well, also know how proud he feels when wearing the tricolor on his helmet or when Singing the national anthem. He has never played for personal records. "It's the passion for cricket that keeps me going and I care for INDIA", said Sachin in Hyderabad. He cares for India you fools!! Hats off to you Sachin. Doesn't matter if you don't win us the world cup. After all it's not one man's job. What Sachin has achieved is to unite the whole country from north to south and east to west by playing so well the game called cricket!

  • POSTED BY Nata on | November 15, 2009, 1:20 GMT

    Love you Sachin! You have given me a lot of joy all these twenty years! I grew up watching you win matches for India. You have been the symbol of our hope and growth. Without you and the other fab four, our life would be incomplete. Some may say, you guys made a lot of millions, but you guys also made a lot many millions to believe in themselves. And that to me is the best you guys have given for this country.You are indeed a part of every family in India. The love and affection, even though not in person, showered by this country would take you to even great heights. I pray lord almighty to be with you and bless you. Like many other friends who mentioned in various forums, It is very very difficult to imagine cricket without you. Love you Sachin!!!

  • POSTED BY siddham2007 on | November 15, 2009, 0:43 GMT

    One of the best things I miss in the US is seeing a cricketer like Sachin on song. In fact, it is something people will start missing soon - a class act of combined aggression and style. If they are aggressive they are not stylish and vice versa. Sachin has both. I PRAY THAT HE DOESNT GET OUT EARLY, GETS OVER HIS INJURIES AND STAYS FIT... HIS TALENT AND SKILLS WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL ELSE TO CONTINUE TO GIVE IMMENSE HAPPINESS AND SATISFACTION OF CLASSICAL CRICKET FANS WORLDWIDE FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS

  • POSTED BY Sebi76 on | November 15, 2009, 0:09 GMT

    @Vasan:I can completely understand your frustration levels and Sachin's comparison with other great cricketers like Lara, Pointing and steve Waugh etc. Let me make u realize this fact that Sachin has been an opener through out his life........For him to be a match winner either his innings has to last the complete 50 overs or other team members has to contribute at the same time. On the other hand Pointing, Steve Waugh and Lara used to come at number 3 and 4 PLUS they had the team to back there centuries and win the match for them which was not the case with Sachin for most of his career.

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 14, 2009, 22:50 GMT

    @Ram_3907, LARA scored 501 for warwickshire, there was no Ambrose and Walsh, By then Bishop was already OUT of form, U see i didn't, say abt Perth and Adelaide test, BTW then why u call TEAM INDIA, world beaters :)). Tendulkar just he want to make sure his records wont be broken eventhough he didnt win matches, trophies for INDIA. I would rate Sanath Jayasuriya is always a better cricketer. His 14000 runs and 330 wickets, world cup champion, unselfish player so on.. He also guided an OUT of form Sri Lanka till WC 2003 semis. I could see here TENDULKAR is only stand out player, genius as all said, rest 10 are good for nothing, if u continue to this way, INDIA wont win any WC. India should think and be proud of Kapils Devils. I think WC 2011 will not be for INDIA, as HOSTS never win World Cups so far according to statistics, :))

  • POSTED BY VivaVizag on | November 14, 2009, 22:27 GMT

    Sachin is undoubtedly India's proudest product. Thank heavens for providing Mother India with such a prodigial son. He inspired my generation, carried the hopes of a billion people, instilled something critically lacking in his team - a will to win, and epitomized everything an Indian ever aspires for. Above all, the manner in which he carried himself over the last 20 years in spite of the towering achievements, awards and adulation is something everyone needs to take note of. To me, he is Gandhi in cricketing attire.

    SRT, I salute you. May we mortals see you play for long.

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 22:16 GMT

    @Vansan .. abt the Dead Rubbers..Lara has played 18 Dead Rubbers in which he avgs 79 with 6 100's only Justin Langer has more 100's than Lara in Dead Rubbers..8 from 19 matches with an avg of 67..and if you want the source..here is teh source...http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/315649.html BTW,both his 375 and 400 agnst Englan came in Dead Rubbers..I'm not taing anything away rom Lara..Its still important to perform in any test match..But..just bcaz to tell u the fact..and I remember his 277 and 153* vs Aus..but do u rememebr Sachin's 1st test 100 defying Eng and his 103* in the recent run chase vs Eng after Mumbai Blasts..?wat abt his counter attcking 155 in chennai'98 vs Aus? and his match loosing 114 vs Aus in Perth,116 in MCG'99 vs Aus 136 vs Pak and 169 vs SA? Did u watch any of those knocks?

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 22:05 GMT

    Contd..n I'm I'm telling this nth time..Sachin hiself said that he want india to win matches and he dont care his personal milestones and records will come automatically if he did well 4 his country.So,please stop this rubbish..n BTW,wat abt Lara?did he ever care abt his country r abt Cricket?then why not we say some thing abt Lara ..? ohh..here,u dont want 2 compare Lara with Sachin..bcaz U know the commitment Sachin shows for his coutry n passion he shows for CRICKET is unmatchable..esplly with LARA who never care abt cricket..!Abt Indian's envying Ponting and Aussie team..We dont need to..If u have Don we've Sachin.If U've Ponting We've Rahul..If U've Gilly we've Dhoni..If u've Waugh we've Dada..if U've hayden then we've Sehwag..If u've Shane We've Anil..If You've 3 WCs..We've MONEY..and its may be u guys envy our money and thats why u guys hate BCCI and IPL..BTW,who r the real cry babies...The one who hates BCCI but still wants their MONEY r the one's who wants their team 2 win WC?

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 21:51 GMT

    Contd..Thats why there is a saying.."For solidity look to DRAVID,For elegence look to LAXMAN,For timimng look to GANGULY,For brilliance look to LARA,For tenacity look to S WAUGH,For powerplay look to HAYDEN,& If U want 2 see all these qualities in one man then look to SACHIN TENDULKAR" and that is why Sachin is Special..not only 4 Indians..But 4 every Cricket Lover..And abt other day's match..How many people actually talk abt Watson's performance ater Sachin's knock?Even Ponting said that thats one of the best ODI knocks in the history..BTW,wats the meaning of MOM..is it Man Of The Macth or Winner of The Match?You said 2 your collegues that Sahcin wil through the match if raina gone?ohh..great..then y only Raina?why not when sehwag r Gambhir r Yuvi r Dhoni gone?So,according to you Raina who scored 53 in that 137 run partnership who held the aces not Sachin who scored 70 odd runs ..in that partnership itself and scord 175 from 140 balls..So,What if Sachin was out when raina is on 0?

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 21:36 GMT

    Contd..If u want source just google it and you'll know who said that 1st ..Indians or SA n Australins? and BTW,In all your comments..you are comparing different players..with SACHIN..Ok.So..SACHIN has to envy Ponting and Sanath becaz they r part of winning WC..but wat abt LARA..?Oh..he don't want to win WC? OK..leave it..Sachin has to envy LARA becaz he has 400(just for records sake) then why not Ponting and Sanath?Why Sachin has to envy others as if he didn't achieve anything and others like LARA,Ponting achieved everything? where as the fact remains same al the time that all the cricketers (including Lara and POnting)envies Sachin for everything he did and that you can see if anyone asks them abt Sachin..But U guys will compare 10 different players from 10 different eras and 10 different countries to ONE MAN ..and asks him to do everything for his country and the sad part of it is..for U..those 10 different players are great becaz they did 10 dierent things.But not SACHIN..Contd..

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 14, 2009, 21:33 GMT

    if you want to compare Golf analogy , sachin is a ben Hogan , a golf university with his 5 lessons book and ponting is Tiger woods in that they both win from jaws of defeat. I am ben hogan fan than tiger woods but in cricket case i think ponting played better than sachin in pressure situation that i think best describe both players. One player is selfish run accumulator and another play to WIN!.

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 21:23 GMT

    @Vansan ..Yeah..we saw headline like SACHIN SHINES BUT INDIA LOST..so wat?he did well for India ..and tried his best..but wat if his other 10 teammates fail?Is there anyway that he can bat for his team mates? BTW,wat abt LARA..14 out of his 34 100's results in lost causes..to Sachin's 9 out of 42.Then why not ..LARA SHINES BUT WI LOST..and he was a GREAT BATSMEN but not a GREAT PLAYER..Blah..blah..Stuff?WHO envies WHO? Do you know that SACHIN has 4 hundreds in SRILANKA...?So wats the greatness of Lara...Yes..I saw him scoring 4 100's in 3 tests..but he played 8 matches in SL and scored 5 100's ..so wat happend to him in the remaining matches?Why only SACHIN has to score in all the matches..?Why only SACHIN has to win all the matches..?This Sachin is GOD thing was started by Australians..back in 98..and you go ask them..why did they start that..may be to hide their faces from loosing not to Team India..but to ONE MAN ..SACHIN TENDULKAR (as Waugh said it after Sharja)...Contd..

  • POSTED BY Raj_Kumar_20000 on | November 14, 2009, 21:00 GMT

    People says sachin played for 20 years - Lara played for 17 years and if he would have played tests for another 3 years then it will be 20. Playing 20 years is not the point. Other's Did not WANTED TO DO THAT. Thats the difference.

    Why ganguly retired. If he would have played more it will be 13th year and 14th and 15th.

    Sachin will create a new record soon. When his son will make debut - he will open with him too and create another new record. ( Father and son batted togeather in ODI as Openers)

    Mr. RAM_3907 - r u drunk. Go to Rediff.com and type - Ian chappel - Watch all videos. Lara left 146 Over in Second Innings to Bowl England Team out. That is a hell a lot of overs. "Its not me who is saying that" - I am chappel said and Cricinfo site said. See it.

    Do Bowl England out I guess 146 are WAY AWAY too many. DID you know that. ( You are a cricket expert) What a Shame.

    Can Sachin score 688 Runs in 3 tests Even against Bangladesh or Zim in Dead rubber pitches in IND.

  • POSTED BY knowledge_eater on | November 14, 2009, 20:54 GMT

    @Vansan Buddy .. you think people envy Aussies and Ponting .. i tell you what people Envy .. All Cricket world envy Sachin and Indians .. if that wasn't the case, you wouldn't have seen these many comments just to reveal that "this is what i think of Sachin" Find me a cricketer who is this much discussed envy criticized respected worshiped even you, yourself have wasted your precious time to talk about him .. This guy (Sachin) is energy generator .. if we can visualized inner power being shared just for this human being, it would be phenomenal. Millions and billions of money is spend for indian cricket, is in a way very powerful weapon to accumulate country's GDP.These indians(BCCI,IPL) have feed many many people directly or indirectly. Ask vendors who sell Tea or snacks in Cricket Ground. Ask dancers who kept dancing for whole 20/20 game. Who are we to envy now ? Should we envy that people sell 'Samosa' in india but not in Aus during Cricket Match to feed their Child ? Think positive

  • POSTED BY Raj_Kumar_20000 on | November 14, 2009, 20:53 GMT

    In 1999 Test Series, Against Australia, After First Test LARA told in Presentation. ( You Cricket Experts - Do you Remember ) HE was OUT for 64 in first innings and 9 or 7 in Second Innings. In Presentation he said, " this 50's and 60's are NOT ENOUGH. I have to score a big Double - for even a chance to win Next Game.

    How Dare a Batsmen need to say that in a Presentation, ( Dont forget, Its against Australia )do you know. In the Next Game After Day 1- West Indies were 7/3 down and Commentators saying that this will be another Defeat by an innings for Windies. Brian Lara 213 Demolished Australia. Next Match Cricket's Greatest Innings Ever 153 Not out. Single handedly a test match won When No one was even expecting Windies to win after Aus- score 490 in 1st innings.

    A batsmen greatness is not about how many runs he scored in his career. So many things you have to consider where he bats. Sachin opened for 312 times. Dont forget that. Lara played only 100 game at no 3.

    BC LARA

  • POSTED BY Girish.S on | November 14, 2009, 20:47 GMT

    @Vansan .. do u understand the meaning of dead rubber ??? If you see the headlines as SACHIN SHINES BUT INDIA LOST .. that is not dead rubber. .thatz the indication of not getting support from the other end ( similar to the way it happened in chennai ODI and Hydrebad ODI)

    Lara's century in perth came when australia had already won the series 2-0 , his 400 runs innings came when england had already thrashed WI 0-3 ( Lara had scored 100 runs in 6 innings before the start of the 4th test), 375 WI had won that (3-1).there are few more innings of that sort .. 400 run innings was called by his teammate as selfish knock (ridley jacobs) . match winning 150 is always better than those selfish knocks .

    When lara scored 153* in barbados he got the support from his tail enders ( ambrose batted close to 70 mins or so and even walsh didn't throw his wicket away) wheras our tail lasted less than 20 mins in that chennai test and in hydrebad ODI,Indians fail

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 14, 2009, 20:47 GMT

    One more thing. Greatest Batsman if you really want to know?. Vivian Richards comes on top. FEAR. Only batsman world feared ever. Shewag,hayden,jayasurya comes close. Hayden more of a bully in that he had great pressure batsman comes after him so he played like a bully. Jayasurya was pure skill. Sehwag is manic but sehwag case when he gets out cheap india fall like 9 pin even with sachin when under pressure. sachin played brilliant when there is no pressure , then his run accumulator brain kicked in. Viv never gave chance for the bowler. Sehwag on full flow may be menacing but he is hit or miss. The thing about these two is Time is suspended and all plans go astray when they bat until they make mistake. Only guy aussie fear in Indian team is sehwag , others they can devise a plan and control. for sehwag God only knows what is going on his brain. Hahaha.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 14, 2009, 20:37 GMT

    Thanks for posting my comment.:) My response: I am indian. I really want ponting stay another 10 years and break all sachin records in one leg. That would be something. Because i am tired of people calling a simple bastman GOD this GOD that. For me pure stamina and style , brian lara. Sachin for simplicity and strokeplay and less energy to get max out of a stroke and hunger for run accumulation. Ponting for handling pressure and take aussies home everytime. Only time he failed bad is against ishant in australia. Other than that Ponting was better in everyway. I decide worth of batsman by how he lead in precarious situation. For me Dravid and Ponting were the best batsman ever!. No questions.

    Sachin is more of Batsman University. It is the way he plays so simple it is astonishing. Like ben hogan Swing.or playing table tennis. Your legs move first.

    Mark my words. As long as sachin plays for india, india will never win a worldcup!. India will never play as a team.

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 14, 2009, 20:15 GMT

    @rookie4U Sachin is the world's richest cricketer by many times to the second in the list. So he needn't play 4 da money MI offer. He plays for MI because he believes he has a role to play for the city which had given him so much. He still plays for the Ranji side when required and called upon. Mudslingers always find a way to ridicule ppl and it'd be a waste when confronted with facts.. Fact is Ricky ponting and lara had the help of more illustrious team mates in winning the matches unlike Sachin. In the 90's the opposition had only one game plan for India- take sachin out early and the match's in the bag.. I'd love to see some proof in contrary to the statement. The only mistake commited by sachin is that he didn't SHINE ENOUGH to gloss over the frailities of the whole team and win more matches for India.. That's the only mistake on his part!!

  • POSTED BY mayank on | November 14, 2009, 20:07 GMT

    ...continued.... For every Lara's 400 run innings, we can cite more relevant 241 run classic from Tendulkar which by the way came in a crucial & deciding match of the series against a more formidable attack. But we must appreciate the beauty of those Lara's innings and so should be case with Tendulkar. Cricket is team game & individual performances won't always result in team's victory. This has been the Tendulkar and Lara story. There is no doubt that Ponting has really reached the peak over the past decade. He has been amazing. As Sunil Gavaskar said recently, for him Ponting will be the best batsman if is able to survive Twenty years in International Cricket. Twenty years in International cricket is no small achievement and Lara and Ponting would be the first ones to acknowledge that.

  • POSTED BY hredai on | November 14, 2009, 20:07 GMT

    contd. so India deserved to be in the finals and dont question that, and we were the fav after south africa to reach the finals and dont be surprised about that. and now coming to SRT being the best cricketer, 1. His wax statue in madame tassauds museum. no other cricketer has that honour,2. Sir Don Bradman stating that SRT reminded of him. these are 2 of the highest honors a cricketer could have achieved or dream of achieving, and when it comes to be a cricketer as in performance wise then u cannot dispute the fact that he not only bats, but also unlike his many competitors( in this case ponting and lara) he bowls as well and has two 5 wicket hauls and four 4 wicket hauls and if you ever watched him live at a stadium you would realise he is an out-fielder and not an infielder like ponting and he covers the ground like anyother player in his 20's. and yea he did try his luck as a captain and did win 4 tests- 1 against aussie, 2 against south africa and 1 against new zealand.

  • POSTED BY Avidcricketlover on | November 14, 2009, 20:03 GMT

    @rookie..

    check punter's stats before 2000, where on earth was he?

    wasn't he playing for the aussies then or ploughing farms in backyard.

    i'm in no mood to bash punter. but ponting and hayden played and scored all of their runs against oppositions when they had become weaker. see the stats of ponting against harbhajan even.. poor guy.. struggled..

    if ponting has scored the runs the way someone like sachin,lara or for that matter dravid did in tests, i would proudly accept we had someone great in this era. He's no more than jayawardene for me. with all due respect to jayawaRDENE, he was a good batsman,very elegant but not a legend like de silva even. if batsmanship in this era, it has to be sachin and lara are a touch above all.

    taking into account of the quality of runs scored in victories and the quality of bowlers faced, sachin is the best we've had in centuries.

    @ rookie.. take up ur ponting baby, show him how to stand brave and not cry whenever he gets out !

  • POSTED BY hredai on | November 14, 2009, 19:52 GMT

    @VANSAN first of all- Sachin is the best cricketer and accept that, infact you might be the only Indian who has a problem when Sachin says he still wants to score runs. And based on what context he told that statement was after the journalists mentioned the fact that how the winning percentage of the team rises when he scores, and definitely our chances our higher when he scores. And for your own good never get into betting or gambling, you might be the dumbest person to keep hopes on a 23 year old who has n't even played a 100 odi against Sachin batting at 140+ at a strike rate of over 120 to win the match for india. which is plain stupid, and tell me about the world cup haha that was the funniest though you dont appreciate the fact that india made it to the finals but you managed to have a problem that we faced kenya in the semis, hahaha..!! kenya was the same team which beat your fav sri lanka(against whom sachin couldn't score much) and we beat england, pak, and new zealand. contd.

  • POSTED BY mayank on | November 14, 2009, 19:52 GMT

    Lets put all the debates aside for a while now. Surviving twenty years at the top in these demanding conditions, where expectations increased with each passing year is no mean achievement. We need to celebrate that. Brian Lara did not mean to WI, nor does Ponting means to Australia what Sachin Tendulkar means to India. He is our proudest possession, an icon and face of the nation. Lara, Ponting or even Inzamam-ul-Haq may be more gifted than Tendulkar but not as focused or committed than him. Just for Tendulkar's defence : Ponting has been member of a very successful side that virtually fields eleven match winners every time. Give Tendulkar a similar squad and see the results. Lara's 400 came in a dead rubber and that didn't help his team win the match. Who knows we might have had some result had Lara declared the innings slightly earlier. Lara played some of the best innings against SL in SL on turning tracks. But did that help his team win the series or even a match. Certainly No...

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 14, 2009, 19:52 GMT

    My point there is sachin wouldn't score 400 if it won't help the teams cause of winning. Even hayden's 380 helped his team win the match unlike the stale draw in the other case. As a batsman you are expected to score runs and HELP the team win not make the team win single handedly... So just think once before you comment. As for envying the aussies is concerned, they were they envy of the whole cricketing world. @hamz501 Brain lara had the support of 3 of the best bowlers of the generation in the form of Courtney walsh, Courntey Ambrose and Ian Bishop for the most of his career in the 90's to complement him in winning test matches all round the world. I can't think of a name of a single bowler which can evoke the same respect as the above 3 had in the indian side. VVS and Dravid needed the TURBANATOR to win the kolkata test. Playing their roles assigned to them is what players are supposed to do and Sachin had always beyond that. And that makes SRT a GREAT CRICKETER without a doubt!!

  • POSTED BY Pranoop on | November 14, 2009, 19:45 GMT

    Great piece, Mr Roebuck. Reflecting on elements of master players is one thing, creating unbiased poetry is a master class in itself.

  • POSTED BY sandstorm10 on | November 14, 2009, 19:33 GMT

    @ vasan...u r very conveniently ignoring some of the gr8 sachin has played over the years ..if i start listing then the list will be nedless...u seem 2 b harping about 277,375,400..4 the last 2 scores did it serve any purpose .the answer is a big no...both ended as a tame draw..and it wasnt against the best of bowling attacks..lara's 277 was brilliant but so was sachin's 100 @ perth as a youngster,100 @ sydney 4 the will power.i cud actually go on naming so many inngs...abt the recent run chase of sa v/s aus 4 chasing down 400...in that gibbs was fab..but the whole platform was laid down by smithy..even when gibbs was out sa had 70-80 runs 2 chase which was down by boucher and duminy..so the whole team had a say in it..where as sachin played 4 98 overs continuously...regarding punter...99 world cup was warn by warney..2003 by gilly and tis time's effort was a combined one..wat happened 2 punter during the ashes..wen faced with quality with very little support from others he failed.

  • POSTED BY mayank on | November 14, 2009, 19:32 GMT

    Cricket is a team game and it holds true that you are only as good as your team. Classic example : Tendulkar's 175 against Aussies at Hyderabad. It is by far the best counter attacking innings played in ODIs, where every shot was played from the meat of the bat. Complete flawless innings but for one shot which resulted in him being dismissed. There is one thing I have noticed about Sachin. He takes it all on himself in situations like Hyderabad 09 or Chennai 99 to finish the matches thereby increasing pressure on himself trying to get some extra runs as soon as possible. Its just like that he realizes that he won't be getting any support from other end, which is unfortunately true is some cases. Of late he has been getting that support from Yuvraaj, Dhoni, Sehwag, Gambhir and all. But they need to be more consistent. You can certainly win odd matches with singular spectacular performances but not an entire series. Maybe Sharjah was an exception but certainly not the World Cup.

  • POSTED BY Ram_3907 on | November 14, 2009, 19:31 GMT

    To all those who point out to a fact that sachin has not always been a match winner I can just say one thing. it is not every time that a player had single handedly won games for their countries. @vansan You speak as if sachin has personally called up and told you that he's hungry for runs but not for indian victories. Just because sachin hasn't won the world cup doesn't make him ineligible to be called a great cricketer.The 277 lara scored was scintillating, but he'd have not done so without the help of ritchie richardson on the other side. And the series was on thanks to the bowlin heroics of ambrose and bishop along with hooper in the last 2 tests.. Lara's scores were 52, 7 and 16 in last 2 test matches. So before you compare sachin with lara just go back to the match he scored 400. England had thrashed west indies for 3-0 in that series and west indies would have pulled one back had LARA not CARED for his 400 than A POSSIBLE WINDIES VICTORY. ... contd

  • POSTED BY Sebi76 on | November 14, 2009, 19:26 GMT

    351 to chase....Gambhir, Yuvraj and Dhoni Failing.....Still this man goes the distance and make India feel comfortable at 19 of 18 needed....and then the COLLAPSE. I would certainly say it "sad 175" and not proving to be a match winning Innings but I would rate this innings of his as one of the bests he has produced in a long long time.......Even with the team that we have currently, you can only back them to reach nearby/overhaul 351...1 out of 10 games MAX...and that was that 1 time @HYDERABAD.......3 CHEERS to this outstanding innings. HIP HIP HURRAY HIP HIP HURRAY HIP HIP HURRAY

  • POSTED BY Sebi76 on | November 14, 2009, 19:19 GMT

    @Vasan:I can completely understand your frustration levels and Sachin's comparison with other gr8 cricketers like Lara, Pointing and steve Waugh etc. Let me make u realize this fact that Sachin has been an opener through out his life....For him to be a match winner either his innings has to last the complete 50 overs or other team members has to contribute at the same time. On the other hand Pointing, Steve Waugh and Lara are number 3 and 4 in batting order PLUS they had the team to back there centuries and win the matches for them which was not the case with Sachin for most of his career....So less victories as compared AS SIMPLE AS THAT :)

  • POSTED BY Chitranjan on | November 14, 2009, 18:38 GMT

    Hail the lord of cricket... and heartiest congratulations to him on completing 20 years in international cricket.

    My humble request... no comparisons in this thread please.... we are here to celebrate the anniversary of a special sportsman... lets not dilute the feelings...writing and criticizing Sachin would not move an inch of faith that we - Sachin fans , have in him. He is the supreme cricketer for us. We are blindly and madly in love with the way he plays his game and no words of criticism can shake that. Save your words for praising your favorite cricketer...

  • POSTED BY ogu999 on | November 14, 2009, 18:22 GMT

    Peter Roebuck, while I don't deny anything here that you have written about Sachin, I choose to differ on couple of things which have little to do with Sachin: a) "...and India was a patronized country known for its dust, poverty, timid batsmen and not much else..."> Hmmm, do you think Sunil Gavaskar (batted all through without a helmet), Mohinder Amarnath, Gundappa Vishvanath and Kapil Dev were timid in their approach? b) "...a father forced to take his family to Iceland on holiday..."> Is Iceland (I know it sounds exotic and remote) is as obscure a nation as you make it out to be? Reykjavik is crowded with tourists/travellers from all over the world...actually Tendulkar will find his privacy anywhere in the world with the exception of cricket playing nations.

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 14, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    Continued.... WATSON picked up crucial RAINA (coz of whom sachin played his shots and collected 175). i knew and said to my colleagues, if raina is gone, sachin will throw the match, it was RAINA who held the aces. I can agree SACHIN is a master batsman, great batsman BUT.. NOT A GREAT CRICKETER. He can play another 10 yrs so that he can make sure PONTING, CLARKE, GAYLE whoever will not achieve his RECORD of runs. He says he is still hungry of runs, BUT he never said he is hungry for INDIAN victories. In 2003 WC, India must be happy to face KENYA in semis, will it be any other , there might be a close game.. BUT INDIA STILL ENVY PUNTER STOLE THE SHOW in Johannesburg 2003. All the cry babies still cannot digest that. AND GIRISH says PUNTER played in world best team, then why u call ur team will win Champions Trophy or WORLD CUP, GO Indian Team make money in IPL and advertisement, u'll always ENVY AUSSIES and PONTING.

  • POSTED BY pankajkumarsingh on | November 14, 2009, 18:15 GMT

    Mr. V.GOMES : Sachin has admitted it too. I remember when given the man of the series award in 2003 world cup, He said - "I would give it up for another shot at the Australians.." Mr. rookie4u - You need to stop commenting on Sachin. As much as it upsets you, it upsets others too. Any cricketers could've "inflated their statistics", no? Sachin turned down captaincy for two reasons: (1) His first venture wasnt the best (2) He wanted to move on from it, and thus suggested Dhoni's name

    Lastly - Waugh and Ricky won not because of their ability - but because they had an 11-member team and all were capable of performing on the same day. Sachin has won more man of the series award than Waugh/Ricky put together.

    In everyone's interest, you need to stop beeping... FYI: Last three finals that India won - had Sachin score 100, 90s and a 100.w

  • POSTED BY knowledge_eater on | November 14, 2009, 18:13 GMT

    Stop comparing Players people .. oh wait this is sports so people will keep doing it .. but my point is "i don't care whatever people say" but let me ask you one question: answer this one: How much can you expect from a Human being ? Do you expect them to hit every run in every ball, take wickets in every ball ? Score runs all the time. Take wickets All the time ? If that happens i tell you what will happen .. there will be no anticipation for game. It will look like" heyy look this robots are scoring sixes every single ball and hitting boundaries every single ball" and then eventually Cricket will die. If you guys any of you criticizer play real cricket and faced real bowler, answer me this how many times you have scored ? how many times you have made your country win ? How many times have your team performed and supported you to win your game ? How many times have you kept your fitness and kept playing cricket for more than 20 years and still able to score runs like this ?Answer that

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 14, 2009, 18:08 GMT

    @Girish, are u drunk. did u ever see LARA scoring centuries in dead rubber. How many centuries did SACHIN make in dead rubber. How many times we saw headlines SACHIN SHINES BUT INDIA LOST., Have u seen LARA's 277 at Sydney, defying the aussies,, How many test centuries did sachin make against SL in SL. Did u witness 4 centuries in 3 tests . Did anyone achieve such against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka. Probably u guys are jealous as GOMEZ said, u envy ponting, sanath being worldcup champions, envying LARA because SACHIN cannot score 400 in Test match (Sachin will score 400 if he plays a test against bangladesh in Hyderabad), did u ever saw 153* at barbados by LARA, NOW TOO I CAN SEE YOU WANT TO GET A HIDING FROM ODI LOSS TO AUSSIE, SO YOU ALL ARE SPEAKING THIS SACHIN IS GOD, THIS, THAT and all emotional rubbish. The other day WATSON deserved MOM but 175 looked more important for MOM abjudicators. WATSON scored 93 and took 3 wickets, and 2 in one over, mainly RAINA, (To be continued)

  • POSTED BY hamz501 on | November 14, 2009, 17:39 GMT

    Sachin has been a great player for a very long time. I think the best thing about Sachin is the way he has represented India. Throughout his career i can not ever remember Sachin being in a controversy. But I will say that he is not the best batsman I have seen. Brian Lara imo was a better test match batsman than Sachin Tendulkar. I know many people have thrown out stats here but I'll simply ask you, How many test matches did tendulkar win for India in the 90? The most famous of India test victories in the 90's were against Australia(in India), and that was mostly VVS and Dravid. Brian Lara has single handedly won WI many test matches throughout the same period. I know people like stats so heres one for them, Tendulkar avg 35 against Pakistan, and like 32 against SA in the 90's. Only lately did his avg go up agaisnt these two teams due to the drop in bowling standards for both the teams. Though I do believe that Sachin is the best ODI batsman i have seen.

  • POSTED BY JackJak on | November 14, 2009, 17:22 GMT

    Hey all you tendulkar supporters. Nobody says he isn't a great batsman. But the Indian media goes overboard and there is a limit to everything. He is a good batsman and he has played 20 years scored 17000 runs this many centuries...In the end Indians get floored by statistics because in the end we dont have any trophies to show for it. Lets not talk about Ponting and he didnt face the great bowlers...Then we can also go back further and say that Viv Richards and Gavaskar and many other good batsmen from the previous generation played without helmets and without fear. These are all mindless debates. He is a good batsman from this generation and lets leave it at that. Concentrate on encouraging other sports instead of going on hyping up one or two people..dhoni tendulkar. Never take any new players and never encourage fresh talent. That will always be the problem with Indian cricket.

  • POSTED BY rookie4u on | November 14, 2009, 17:21 GMT

    ..Contd.. He was absolutely right with that and might've not scored those 17,000 runs. Thus, wouldn't be immortal in eyes of some people and be a "MATCH-SAVER" rather than a "MATCH-WINNER". The Hyd ODI was nice example of him scoring 175, rating it as one of his best and losing it in the end even after having around 3-4 lives during that inning. Just don't go ga-ga over SRT without considering these points.

  • POSTED BY rookie4u on | November 14, 2009, 17:20 GMT

    Well, I know it is very difficult to except the fact. I don't blame you guys for feeling so. Deep down every fan feels about Sachin playing for 20 long yrs, scoring over 17,000 runs and still didn't manage to win a single World Cup or being a part of unbeatable team just like the one of Waugh or Ponting. Pls don't give an excuse that Indian team wasn't any good. They were quite a formidable side more than once and had many good bowlers (Srinath, Prasad, Kumble, Agarkar, Irfan..) and batsmen (Sourav, Rahul, Azhar, Jadeja, Viru, Dhoni..) to win. Even in the last World Cup they were quite a strong side. So stop complaining that Sachin didn't have enough support to win it. And about leading, many of you guys rate him as a best cricketer with a nice temperament, cool as cucumber and one of the best brains in the business... Then y not lead and display it rather than aim individual personal goals... to be contd ...

  • POSTED BY Cannuck on | November 14, 2009, 17:09 GMT

    I don't know why people can't just read a great article (thanks Peter, again!), enjoy it & leave it at that. First off the headline of the article is India's Proudest Possession, not Australia's, West Indies' or world's best. It was also not a debate about SRT being better that Lara. Only an observation on how his achievements are different from BL's. It's about how a great "batsmen" lasted for 2 decades & thrilled billions over the world. Irony is that even if the article was written without a mention of Lara, these same idiots would have an issue "wondering why he wasn't included". I am a Sri Lankan living in Canada, & although I think our players like SJ, MJ, KS & MM are the best, I have no qualms accepting SRT is a legend, simply because I love cricket. Insulting his stature, their nation, or how they worship is not going to change facts. As for stats, they mean nothing when you watch him bat, admire his skills & wonder. If you don't like SRT or India, then stop reading them!!

  • POSTED BY vasu00 on | November 14, 2009, 16:53 GMT

    Well Sachin is certainly the greatest batsman to have played for India, certainly one of the greatest the world has ever seen. But I still believe he has underachieved in tests and major reason might be his ODI exploits and the no. of ODIs India played during his time. His contribution to ODI cricket is immense and I believe that's his major underachievement. Had he played for Australia or England I'm sure he'd have scored more runs in less no. of tests and his strange record of not scoring 500 runs in a testseries throughout his career would have been corrected. He is the closest to Don and might have eclipsed most of his stats but for the overdose of ODI cricket. And the idea of longevity has definitely had effect on his overall career. Had he played 12 to 13 years of test cricket and harnessed his talent in full, probably India 'd have had better test record during his time. I believe he's the most complete cricketer to have played for India.But in tests I place Dravid above him.

  • POSTED BY truefan001 on | November 14, 2009, 16:49 GMT

    "India was a patronised country known for its dust, poverty, timid batsmen and not much else." Peter you could have done even without this statement. But I don't expect anything else from you. Now coming back to Szchin. I think more than being one of the best batsman in the world what puts him apart from others is his on field behaviour. Even peter after much research got just three point, ball tampering which was never true, his car fiasco which was blown out of proportion and 3rd one was Sydney episode whose truth is known to none. If you can't belive sachin then whome will you say true? Symo,,,Harbhajan?? Don't joke! And Peter yes, Sachin is a secular saint whether you accept it or not!

  • POSTED BY CricFan24 on | November 14, 2009, 16:42 GMT

    Another great article out by steve waugh " a once in a century player"....... the one and only SACHIN TENDULKAR!!

  • POSTED BY Arrow011 on | November 14, 2009, 16:34 GMT

    Sachin is god of cricket, ponting, lara, kallis are passe, who are being supported by cock-eyed & insane fans. Grow up guys, even lara, ponting & kallis are fans of Sachin the mighty.

  • POSTED BY Girish.S on | November 14, 2009, 16:07 GMT

    Sachin has easily been the greatest player ever to play this game . Be it ODI's or Tests he is way ahead of his so called competitors. Most of the Lara's centuries came in a dead rubber whereas punter played for the best team in the world.

    Sachin has handled the pressure and expectations of billions quite superbly. Since punter played for a better team let us compare sachin and lara .

    Sachin has taken India to the finals and semifinals of the world cup but what has lara done. He has failed miserably when his team needed him to perform.

    Sachin averages about 58 in the finals of the tournament with a strike rate of 88 whereas Lara averages just 28 with a strike rate of 71. Sachin holds a first place when it come to finals but lara is at 36th.

    1990's are considered as the toughest decade for the batsmen and sachin has flourished during that period . He averages about 58 whereas lara's average is as low as 51. Only 5 people had managed to score at an average of 50+ in that decade.

  • POSTED BY Victorian-Roo on | November 14, 2009, 16:05 GMT

    Contd...Lara was kinda more like Sehwag. Viru boasts an avg of 50+ in Tests. But the fact is, he plays once in 2 series but when he does, he scores big time. So the avg gets maintained. Sachin has been consistent throughout his illustrious career. Agreed, post 1998 till 2006-07 he has been accused of not producing a 100 in imp fixtures mostly in finals. But expectations have always been high & many times unreasonable but off-late those match winning knocks have seemed to return. Coming to Punter, he has been doin great since 2003. But one must acknowledge the fact dat the Ponting enigma began when bowlers like Donald, Wasim, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Pollock & to a certain extent Saqlain were either retired or were at the fag end of their careers. Where was the so-called great Ponting when these guys were at their peak? Besides Ponting never had to face McGrath or Warne. Lets not talk about Ponting's performance against spin or on spinning tracks. Sachin has faced 'em all & has flourished

  • POSTED BY V.GOMES on | November 14, 2009, 16:01 GMT

    I'm sure Sachin and India would give-up all the 17,000 runs that he has scored in the past 20 years for just 1 World Cup. I am sure deep down inside both Sachin and India envies players like Ponting and Jayasuria who have won World Cup(s),.. but I sure neither Sachin nor India would ever admit to it.

  • POSTED BY Victorian-Roo on | November 14, 2009, 15:49 GMT

    @rookie4u....hmmm. Donno which country u r from? But if ur from India. Then I believe u r one of those Tendlya bashers who don't know crap about anything and keep yapping all the time. First of all, Tendulkar knew that he wasn't the right man to lead the side and there wasn't any shame in that. It ain't necessary for a premier batsman to have leadership skills. As far as Lara is concerned. Lara never scored a century in India and has a very ordinary overall average of 34 against India. Check Statsguru on Cricinfo. In term of Leadership qualities, Lara felt he could definitely do justice to the job and that's why he took it up and also realizing the fact that no one was either experienced or talented enuf to lead the team. Tendulkar had spotted talent in Dhoni (had played 75 ODIs when Sachin approved his name for captaincy) . He felt that the team definitely had a person better than him to lead the country. So there isn't any question of backing out here. Lara was mercurial. Contd....

  • POSTED BY Notout_Naveen on | November 14, 2009, 15:46 GMT

    Sachin completing 20 yrs in international cricket..

    This is an occasion to congratulate him so i dont wanna miss!!! i regularly shower praise about him though!!I have been his fan all through my life.Sachin is my role model.Every time i was watching him play i was taking all god names to see him play more and more..i still do that.All through i have always fighted against evryone who raised bad comment against him thats all i could do for him for the immense joy he has given by his cricket.But Sachin has answered all his critics with his bat.I dare to say no one now can point finger at him or dare to critcize him..Its been such an amazing journey!!it contineous..I want Sachin to get worldcup 2011 for us or its rather i request Indian team to achieve 2011 world cup for Sachin.In both way it would be a gr8 end to an incredible career.

    I pray god to give him energy to play as long as possible and reach new height.

  • POSTED BY muski on | November 14, 2009, 15:44 GMT

    I fail to understand why Sachin bashing is taking place in the feedback from guys like rookie- this article is one to commemorate 20 years of top class international performance. Why is this being turned to a Sachin vs Lara vs Ponting comparison. All three guys have been different and its individual perception as to who is the best of the lot.Its also amusing to see one guy questioning why Sachin is not playing 20-20 for India but playing IPL- who would not want the Million dollars for 30 days of work?

  • POSTED BY kotapati on | November 14, 2009, 15:36 GMT

    Mere runs cannot be taken into consideration.quality of runs matters when comparing batman.The way lara carries his team is unbelievable.i watched his batting for more than 60 tests.truely he is the alltime best testbats man in the word.Overall sachin and ponting may be ahead of Lara.

  • POSTED BY rsram on | November 14, 2009, 15:12 GMT

    Good article Peter! But I beg to differ on this statement - "Something about a car, something else about a cricket ball, and suggestions that he had stretched the facts to assist his pal Harbhajan Singh.". I think you made this statement just to bolster the fact that Sachin is still mortal. You could have chosen someother incidents (if at all something's there off course) to say that he is mortal bcoz none of those is true. Car was a gift to him, Mike Denness is still repenting for his mistakes on ball tampering[;)] and he very well knows about Aussies' on-field behavior. I agree that he is a mortal and thats what amazes me. How can a mortal stay great for a over a period of about 15 years. Is it astonishing? As a cricket fan, I have been priviledged to born in this era to watch this legend play the game the way he is playing. Lets hope the genius continue to play for long time and continue to give us the pleasure he has been giving for decades now. Let him keep us entertained.

  • POSTED BY rookie4u on | November 14, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    Contd.. Waugh successfully captained a World Cup winning team and led the most successful team of all time. Ricky led a 2 time World Cup winning team and under him Aus went to become one of the unbeatable team in world cricket. Ricky was not only the premier batsman but also one of the best fielder in world cricket. Lara was the not only the best batsman for WI but also of the world. He still accepted to carry the additional responsibility of a captain. He carried the burden of being the main scorer of WI but never feared of spoiling his stats. Sorry Sachin !!! but as "Cricketer of this Decade" I keep Ricky, Kallis and even Lara a touch above SRT... An as a batsman Lara n SRT in same bracket closely followed by Ricky of this generation. Of-course, there have been so many better than these before them. Stop beeping ...

  • POSTED BY rookie4u on | November 14, 2009, 14:53 GMT

    Pls can you all stop using SRT as a brand to be famous. Sachin is life.. Sachin this.. Sachin that.. This wud've sounded better may be 10 yrs back when Sachin was in his prime form. But now it looks like he is just trying to stay there and accumalate as many runs as he can only to inflate his statistics... 17,000... 18,000.. The hunger to win matches seems to have lost somewhere in this. For instance, I fail to understand why he chose not to play International T20 but does play IPL for Mumbai Indians. Is it a money factor or something else??? I think Ricky did right and always kept his best services for his country. I'm not sure why Sachin turned down the captincy offer at a time when his country needed him to take that burden. Look at Ricky, Lara, Waugh, Hansie and many other great cricketers who took that burden on their shoulders inspite of being the premier batsman for their side and came out successful. to be contd ...

  • POSTED BY paramthegreat on | November 14, 2009, 14:27 GMT

    people are comparing Sachin nd Lara....wheres Ponting???Sachin>Ponting(till now)>>>Lara . But dont forget ponting is an awesome cricketer and he played a lot less Odis than sachin....i would rate Sachin higher than ponting sheerly coz of his guts, class, stamina. People who say Ponting is close to sachin in tests due to Sachins injuries....give credit where it is due...noone cares if sachin was injured or not...compare fred's records and botham's.... noone apart from the english cares bout the fact that fred played thru injury. In tests , Ponting>=Sachin>=Lara

  • POSTED BY ABHI_MANUTD on | November 14, 2009, 14:15 GMT

    Three innings by Lara were placed in the top 15 (the most for any batsman in that range).So accept the fact that when it comes to Tests, Lara is better than Sachin.Overall, combining Tests and One Days, Sachin is ahead of Lara.

  • POSTED BY ABHI_MANUTD on | November 14, 2009, 14:11 GMT

    DearRaj_Kumar_20000,I completely agree with u.12773 runs in 159 tests and 17178 runs in 436 ODIs. Mindboggling stuff. Sachin is the ultimate God in ODIs.When it comes to tests, Lara is slightly ahead of Sachin. If consistency, almost flawless approach in facing a ball and dispatching it towards the boundary and ability to flourish on any pitch anywhere in the world, are hallmarks of Sachin's cricketing career, then tearing apart opposition bowlers, playing marathon innings and having an aggressive approach even in tests was what Lara all about.Remember that Lara's first test century was a masterpiece 277 against Australia at Sydney, the highest individual score in Test cricket against Australia in Australia till date.34 centuries of which nine are double, one triple and one quadruple.501 in first class cricket.In July 2001, Wisden published a top 100 list, a distillation of the best performances from 1,552 Tests, 54,494 innings and 29,730 bowling performances till date.

  • POSTED BY balajik1968 on | November 14, 2009, 14:05 GMT

    I see a lot of carping criticism of Tendulkar, but come on, many of the times when India have lost, the others haven't put their hand up to perform. Even in Hyderabad, Ravindra Jadeja played poor cricket failing to rotate the strike, taking singles in the 5th or 6th ball starving Tendulkar of the strike. Jadeja's run out was rank poor cricket. When you have guys like this, the opposition need'nt worry. A lot of India's defeats was because the others played poor cricket, so to blame Tendulkar for these defeats is not fair. Put everything together, in 20 years the man has achieved a lot. Sure the World Cup is a vacuum, but life is'nt perfect. Finally think how pathetic India would possibly have been in these last 20 years without a certain Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. India has produced fantastic cricketers, but Tendulkar has been the linchpin of the team for at least the last 15 years.

  • POSTED BY amin.bintory on | November 14, 2009, 13:56 GMT

    Brian Charles Lara remains and always will be Test cricket's greatest batsmen. As few put it here, Sachin is a run/record accumulator. Lara's centuries were against quality attacks and he was a lone battle fighter for WI unlike for Sachin where he had support in other world class batsmen. When it comes to saving the situation for one's country or going onto winning matches, Sachin is way behind other modern greats like Ponting, Dravid etc who performed every time their teams needed them and not merely piled on runs. All records belong to Sachin. But true performance can never be merely measured by quantity. It needs quality too. So what record is left for Sachin now? Perhaps play along his son when he makes his debut and create a father-son-playing-in-the-same-team record?

  • POSTED BY CricFan24 on | November 14, 2009, 13:33 GMT

    Sachin = GOAT. As Warney said "Sachin is the best there was, is and ever will be"

  • POSTED BY keralite on | November 14, 2009, 13:27 GMT

    I used to be a big fan of Sachin. Not anymore.May be after 2000 or so I felt he was playing for records or personal achievements. Now he is saying 5 tests for India in a year is very few. May be because he is afraid that Ricky Ponting will break his record in tests.( I am not an Aussie, I am an Indian.) Of course,one of the greatest batsman(but not the greatest player).

  • POSTED BY splendorskies18 on | November 14, 2009, 12:49 GMT

    An unbelievable cricketer!!He is the only man who can make a billion people happy and he has been doing it with great effect for the last 20 years..Nobody faces so much of pressure not even barack obama..Hats off to u sachin!!

  • POSTED BY speedarp on | November 14, 2009, 12:20 GMT

    Excellent article about Greatest cricketer of all time. Lets hope that we celebrate silver jubilee for Sachin's international career.... Sachin u have made India proud.

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 11:41 GMT

    Contd...And if you think that Lara played for much weaker team than SRT..thats not entirly true..In his 1st half of his career WI was certainly better than or atleast equal to India in their batting attack ..India only have Azar but only God knows when he's gonna deliver..and all Jadeja's,Robin Singh are pretty avg..where as WI have Richardson,Hooper,Adams etc etc who are decent with bat..and their bowling attack with Walsh,Ambrose and Bishop was one of the best those times...where as India has one of the weakest bowling attack in 90's..Things got better for India/Sachin in this decade and same for WI batting attack with Gayle,Sarwan,Chanders to support Lara..But not for their bowling line up..So..IMO,there isn't much difference between the teams in which Sachin and Lara had played ..

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 11:24 GMT

    @Raj_Kumar_20000,Regarding ODIs, Just don't think abt comparing SRT with anyone in ODIs..He's some where else ..and it'll take another life for anybody to reach him in ODIs(atleast)..17,000 runs with 45 100's and do you know that it took him 79 innings to make his 1st ODI 100 and then he took 355 innings to score 44 100's thats actually a 100 for every 8 matches..So,what if he's an opener...show me any other opener who can atleast comes close to him.BTW,what happens to the aggresion or DOMINATION of LARA when it comes to ODIs.His career SR.RT is below 80 and it decreases to 75 when he was Opening,where as SRT has SR.Rt of 86.So,Who's the best..Lara or SRT?Well,IMO,there is no comparision bw Lara and Sachin in ODIs as SRT is undisputed King in ODIs ..in Test Cricket its pretty close(Thanks to SRT's endless injuries)..4 you,Its LARA..n 4 me Its always Sachin....So,please stop all this nonsense and even if you want to compare them..this is certainly not the right occassion to do so..

  • POSTED BY sagam on | November 14, 2009, 11:22 GMT

    I honestly feel I am privileged to be born in the era of this legend, to able to watch him play some of the best innings in cricket live is one of the greatest pleasures of my life!!

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 11:19 GMT

    @Raj_20000,Regarding his Best Knocks..Where is Lara when Sachin was smashing top class bowlers all over the park@18.Sachin had 5 test match 100's before he was 20.How many did lara had? and if you don't know his 1st 4 100's are away from home(1-Eng,2-Aus,1-SA) and against TOP CLASS bowling attacks and most of the GREATS and Critics considered them as 'MASTER PIECEs' and do you think you know better than them? Well then let me list some of his MASTER PIECE innings.119* to save a match 4 India@16 yrs of age to begin with n then follows wit 148*,114(Perth,92),155*(Chennai),177(Banglore),116(MCG,99),241*(SG,'03),154*(SCG,09)153(Adelide,09) vs Australia and 111(J'berg,93),169(Capetown,97)155(Bloemfontein,01) Vs South Africa and 113(Welligton,98),217(Ahmd,99)169(Hamilton,09) Vs NZ and 136 (Chennai,99),194*(Multan,04) Vs PAK and 122(Birmingham,96),103(Ahmdbad,01),193(Leeds,02),177(Nottingham,96),103*(Chennai,09) Vs ENG..n the list goes On..So, If you dont follow Sachin then don't talk abt him

  • POSTED BY Vansan on | November 14, 2009, 10:43 GMT

    Guys Sachin is a great batsman, not a great cricketer. I could see here u all try to forget ur series defeat against australia by praising sachin and his efforts in 20yrs.

    Many guys compare dravid and sachin here - can everyone still remember adelaide test in 2003, or the series decider ODI against pakistan in 2004, INDIA was limping at 91/5, and dravid sealed the series for INDIA.also the 3rd test in2004 against PAKISTAN, the series was locked at 1 - 1, probably all forgot who helped to win it.

    Answer me honestly, why sachin isnt opening in Test matches. coz of bowling rules and fielding placements, no 15 over powerplays, so he prefer come down the order, when the red cherry is older.

    Sachin had scored just 3200 runs before 1996 where he was not opener, it was same for jayasuriya , 1400 runs before 1996, but now both went to make more than 10000 runs only coz of opening in the ODI to use Powerplay.

    WAKE UP GUYS, SACHIN is just with LARA or a little lower than him. Accept

  • POSTED BY SureshAmsterdam on | November 14, 2009, 10:21 GMT

    Hi all, Thank you Peter for a great article on Sachin! I can't believe how so many bloggers on here miss the bleeding obvious when it comes to Sachin's impact on Indian cricket. Someone even wrote that he was simply a run accumulator. That is exactly what his job is, to accumulate runs for the team! When Sachin scores a 50 or a 100, India's chances in that game improve automatically. Given that he has made 53 50s and 42 centuries in Tests, and 91 50s and 45 centuries in ODIs, that's a heck of a contribution towards India's overall win-lose record in the past 20 years. Isn't it obvious? Opposing teams still consider him their top wicket & spend a lot of attention & resources to get him out, so he shoulders more than his fair share of the team's burden that way too. Similarly when he bats even for a 50, he takes pressure off other batsmen so they play more freely. He shows younger batsmen how to play tough bowlers and in tough situations - ask Yuvraj. What more do you want of the man?

  • POSTED BY Mina_Anand on | November 14, 2009, 10:20 GMT

    I would beg to differ with Peter Roebuck, when he talks about India in the 80s: "dust, poverty, timid batsmen and not much else". In spite of the rapidly-growing economy, there is still dust and poverty…but I have never seen any 'timid batsmen' around. It's always been a privilege to be an Indian cricket fan, with the world-class cricketers that we have. Would the likes of Gavaskar, Amarnath, Sardesai..(facing up to the ferocious West Indies quicks), Kapil Dev, Gundappa Viswanath, Krishnamachari Srikkanth, Ravi Shastri, to name a few…conjure up memories of 'timidity' ?! And yes, Sachin stands for the talent, dignity, equanimity and poise - that is very Indian ! Mr. Roebuck should not go by out-dated perceptions, but do some homework, before he takes off on matters, beyond his ken.

  • POSTED BY Sach_is_Life on | November 14, 2009, 10:15 GMT

    @Raj_Kumar_20000,If lara has 9 scores over 200,Sachin has been more consistent than Lara throught his 20 yrs career.BTW,if Lara has 20 scores more than 150,Sachin has 18.There isn't much difference there and if you think scoring 9 doubles make Lara better than Sachin then Sehwag must be better than Lara because he has 2 triples,5 doubles and 11 scores over 150 from just 119(where lara took 232 innings). If Lara scores 100s in 8 occasions when none of his teammates failed to score 50,sachin did that 6 times.Again not much of a difference.If Lara is fastest to score 1000 to 4000 runs then Sachin is fastest to score 5000 to 8000 runs and lara is fastest to reach 9000 and 11,000 where as both took 195 innings to reach 10,000 and ofcourse Sachin is the 1st batsmen to score 12,000.Still,Not much of a difference.Its just lot of external factors like injuries or the opposion teams which they are playing in those particular periods that determines who is quick to reach that particular milestone

  • POSTED BY sathish4 on | November 14, 2009, 10:08 GMT

    Nothing like when you're at a stadium watching Sachin play and the whole stadium goes "Sachiiiiiiiiin sachiiin..".

    Legend.

  • POSTED BY sachin150 on | November 14, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    @Raj Kumar20000 Enough has been written about Lara and Sachin, but for ur sake I ll be writing it again, Most of the cricketing greats have said Sachin is the best cricketer, many have praised lara too but theyu are far less, If u ask me I have to say that they are on the same levell in tests and Sachin is far ahead in ODIs, but when u wrote that Sachin is not comparable at all to Lara, that makes me laugh at your foolishness

    1) Lara has only 8 match winning centuries to Sachin's 16 2)Lara has an away batting average of 47 to Sachin's away average of 54 3)Lara was less consistent than Sachin, The stats he has got has been were improved by his wonderful form in the last 4 yrs(16 centuries in 4 yrs), in the middle of his career , ppl had even stopped comparing him to the best, while Sachin was the same throughout his 20 yrs more or less.

    The one advantage Lara holds over Sachin is his ability to play longer innings once set(one of the true hallmarks of a great player)

  • POSTED BY Shorndrack on | November 14, 2009, 9:15 GMT

    Wow...how many articles you gonna write for this God... should be countless...And Ponting himself said " Its a pride for me, to play in the times of Sachin"....So Aussies...just stop blabbering....lol

  • POSTED BY kalpit on | November 14, 2009, 9:03 GMT

    Players will come and go. Somebody may break some of his records but no one can ever reach near to the love that he has got from the nation....READ more in my blog http://www.indialovesachin.blogspot.com/

  • POSTED BY a.baloda on | November 14, 2009, 8:57 GMT

    Whenever i start watching any cricket game in the common room of my hostel, there's always appreciation for sachin when he take guard for that first ball....but from there on people appreciate only the way he score runs(and blame him for everything bad happening in the game).....this is the kind of attitude that he had to put up with in this country....but still he stands tall and produce an innings like the one in Hyderabad...... I admire him because he can play the hardest of the cricket in simplest manner possible.....and this article and for that matter any article can't possibly match what he do or had done on the field.......i only wish that whenever he decide to hang up those shoes......Indian public finally give him what he deserve-----Respect and sportsman spirit.......

  • POSTED BY ianChappellFan on | November 14, 2009, 8:42 GMT

    i remember his first series when one afternoon he was hit on the face by waqar younis (i think he bled). and i thought to myself here we go another young promising indian batsman will meekly succumb to the a fast bowling bully. but what followed was anything but. he went on to punish waqar that evening, with full blooded fours till waqar was taken off. it was exhillarting stuff. i had not witnessed this sort of aggression and counter attack from anyone other than westindian (viv, gordon etc.)

    whoever saw that little passage knew there were watching something special in the making.

    oh and in the same series this feeling was confirmed after mushtaq and qadir got a hiding.

  • POSTED BY kpisthebest on | November 14, 2009, 8:40 GMT

    Never won any game on his own????????

    So was it someone else who won the games for India at Madras in 98, at Sarjah, in the cb series, at Madras against England in 2008, against Pakistan at Centurion and many more.

    Dravid is very good but he IS NOWHERE NEAR THE CLASS OF TENDULKAR AND THAT IS THE SIMPLE TRUTH!

    If India or the Caribbean team had McGrath, Gilly and warne then both countries would have won 3 world cups too.

  • POSTED BY Galbatorix on | November 14, 2009, 8:38 GMT

    The magic of Sachin lies in his continued passion for the game, his visible disappointment at the loss of a match ( after playing so many forms of cricket over so many yeara) and his ability to still score runs.. He remains a marvelous idol for all youngsters wanting to make a mark in life, be it cricket or any other sport/profession. Compare it with the shallow crowd we see in Indian cricket and the difference is palpable.. Is there any other player who brings tears to the eyes by virtue of his ability and the simplicity of expression?? he is an icon who will stay so for years to come...

  • POSTED BY HMTSRINATH on | November 14, 2009, 8:29 GMT

    Sachin is the :GOD OF CRICKET". Even Brian Lara told Sachin is the greatest next to Bradman. Long Libe Sachin & hope he continuous to assault the bowlers. The way he bats at the age of 36, it seems that he will continue for another 15 years.

  • POSTED BY Farce-Follower on | November 14, 2009, 8:15 GMT

    @ Sudarsan Raman : Sachin may be your God, but for most of us, he is a fantastic cricket player. Let us not idolise him only to break it later. If all you want to read is ego-satisfying articles that pander to your 'Godliness', please read something by Boria Majumdar. And Shane Warne is indeed great. You may have not watched many of his spells. Just bcos India has 1 billion people, it does not make Sachin the Greatest. If Greatness is put to vote, Shah Rukh Khan would be the greatest actor and Lata Mangeshkar the greatest singer in the world.Just stop this cliche '1 billion people worship him'. Childish stuff.

  • POSTED BY madhur178 on | November 14, 2009, 8:14 GMT

    It is indeed an excellent article. Not only is it unbiased but also well written in terms of language and use of words. Thank you so much for it and looking forward to reading your book.

  • POSTED BY Gizza on | November 14, 2009, 8:11 GMT

    Alex400 team success has nothing to do with a batsman. Lara AND Tendulkar were/are far better batsmen than Ponting ever will be. By your logic, Tom Moody (won 2 World Cups) is a better batsman than most non-Australian players now (even Jayasuriya has only won one WC, geez he must bad).

    By the way Sachin has won games completely on his own, probably more than Ponting has done. Most of Ponting's great innings have come when Langer/Gilchrist and Hayden got them off to a awesome start. You can't blame a batsman when the team has no good bowlers, in particular doesn't have any fast bowlers.

    On the other side SudarsanRaman needs to calm down. Shane Warne, Lara, McGrath, Tendulkar are all greats and it is impossible to compare them. Ponting falls short on this level of greatness. In fact even Gilchrist and Hayden were better batsmen than Ponting for a long time when they were in good form. Sachin was probably only no. 2 for a short while when Dravid was at his peak.

  • POSTED BY Sachin_Cricket on | November 14, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    Thanks for such an inspiring article for an undoubtedly greatest player in the history of World Cricket and still continuing to enhance his skills by discovering new innovations and setting a trademark for the others to follow. But Peter you dissapointed all the fans by mentioning "Something about a car, something else about a cricket ball, and suggestions that he had stretched the facts to assist his pal Harbhajan Singh " . For your kind info. (i) car was gifted to him (ii) he was cleaning the ball but the fact that whateever he does becomes a headline contributed to the same (iii) He was supporting his mate 'cos every cricketer in the world was really fed-up of the dirty comments made by LOW GRADE AUSTRAILIANS. It was needed. In India teacher is treated like a God and he is the greatest teacher from whom We've learnt every skill of Cricket known uptil now. This country salutes him for making us PROUD...and displaying some unmatched & exceptional talent+skills ever known. All the best

  • POSTED BY swami_psg on | November 14, 2009, 7:35 GMT

    A very good article... reflects the feeling of a true Sachin fan. Very few people have brought to the game - what Sachin had brought - Respectability, Modesty and Pure class. @ Alexk400 - Forget 3 Worldcups, even if Ponting manages 30 worldcups, he cannot be compared to Sachin when it comes to pure sportsmanship and Natural talent. so please dont try to take out your frustration on Sachin for the incapability of Ponting to demand respect. Excellent Article peter. Thank you.

  • POSTED BY passionate_cricket_follower on | November 14, 2009, 7:29 GMT

    1. Ponting has 3 worldcups , sachin has none.

    Sachin was the man of the series in 2 world cups, Ponting in none.

    2. Never won any game on his own. He will come close and lose the game. Even though losing a game is not his fault , he never played when india needed most.

    Check the records. Sachin has won India the most number of matches. No other batsman even comes close to him.

    3. That iron man is Rahul dravid , india's greatest batsman. Sachin is for simplicity and greatest run accumulator. Nothing else.

    I can see your cricket-understanding capacity!

    4. Zero leadership.

    Not necessarily every great player has to have leadership skills. Lara, Richard, Miandad, Botham were not great leaders.

    5. And above all, we don't need people like you to tell us how to select a team. We are still sitting at the top of the ICC rankings in all formats of the game. So thats it! Thanks anyway for your comments.

  • POSTED BY madmax1976 on | November 14, 2009, 7:22 GMT

    Good piece of article..Sachin Tendulkar, a master cricketer and batsman par excellence!! An entire generation has grown with him...I can't imagine the day when he retires and how I will watch cricket in his absence....

    I wish he keeps on playing as long as possible...... We love you Sachin

  • POSTED BY Devz greatS on | November 14, 2009, 7:20 GMT

    @Alexk400

    Ponting has 3 worldcups because of the team he had. He has/had Johnson, McGrath, Warne, Lee as bowlers and had a bunch of good alrounders. Just remember the support Ponting gets from his tail-enders. Sachin got NONE. Sachin never won India a game on his own? Are you kidding me? Can you please give us any proof? Besides, cricket is a team game. The team needs fast runs from an opening batsman and Sachin which provides better than any other batsman in the world.

    Comparing Ponting with the great Sachin is the most hilarious thing I've ever heard. Actually, did you see the matches India played for last 15 years? I saw almost every one of them. I also saw Australia's matches. And from that I can tell, Sachin has won more matches for his team than any other player did for his country. Ponting never won a game for Australia alone. There should be no comparison.

    If you still think that I'm talking my emotions out, then just go through the scores, statistics and compare them.

  • POSTED BY Raj_Kumar_20000 on | November 14, 2009, 7:16 GMT

    Lara and sachin batted at same No:4 position in Test Cricket.

    Lara got 9 Double Hundreds in Tests and all against Great Attacks and under great pressure. No support from any other batsmen in the TEAM. Dont forget that.

    20 Scores over 150 in 34 Hundreds for a Weak Weak West Indies Team. Dont forget that.

    That is what a Batsmen is all about. In Lara 34 Test Tons - At least , I repeat At least 25 hundreds are MASTER PIECE. Meaning Great Innings.

    In sachin tons, MAXIMUM 7 or 8. ha

  • POSTED BY Raj_Kumar_20000 on | November 14, 2009, 7:15 GMT

    Look at TEST Cricket, sachin DOES NOT EVEN MATCH LARA. If you honestly Compare Inning by inning in test cricket.

    Lara BAred weak Windies team for 17 years of his career. Sachin Had all great players and support from Board all the time in his career. Still Lara beat him in Test Cricket. Sachin Took 15+ innings to Cross BC LARA test Runs Record . what is great in that.

    Who is the Greatest BAtsmen on SPIN: LARA not sachin. In fact No comparison.

  • POSTED BY Raj_Kumar_20000 on | November 14, 2009, 7:14 GMT

    Brian Charles LARA the Greatest Batsmen of all time.

    why sachin is great then lara - can anyone explain. He opened innings for 312 times , LARA batted at no: 3 for only 103 innings. and after that LARA batted at 5,6, always fluctuation in his batting order.

    Chris Gayle has 20 odi tons , what is great in that. a player who openes the batting obviously his record will be much better than the one batting low down the order.

    Who got more batting super skill and domination nature - BC LARA not sachin.

  • POSTED BY Jim1207 on | November 14, 2009, 7:13 GMT

    One more reason for Sachin's success was that he never allowed pointless and inaccurate criticsm (like Alexk400's here) to discourage his determination!!!!

  • POSTED BY ramu27689 on | November 14, 2009, 7:02 GMT

    Good one Peter! Those guys who still question Tendulkar either dont understand the game or have got some sort of a personal grudge against him.32 ODI 100's in winning causes and 6 of them in finals is proof enough of his matchwinning abilities.And who can forget that matchwinnig 4th innings 100 against england in the chennai test match last year.This is greatest man to have ever played the game and watch and enjoy his game while you can,'cause it might not be long before he retires!!

  • POSTED BY dragon_teentitans on | November 14, 2009, 7:02 GMT

    @Alexk400

    Please dont forget the CB Series finals in Australia back in 2008 Feb...... He scored a century and a 90 to ensure that India won the series without even going into the third Final...... India have won many matches just because of Sachin.......

  • POSTED BY nikhil11 on | November 14, 2009, 6:58 GMT

    Good to see Peter writing in favour of Sachin, its very rare that he praises Sachin. Waiting for Submit Bal to write something as usual on the negative side of Sachin. Where is he has he retired?

    Long Live Sachin....

  • POSTED BY SuperSaiyan4 on | November 14, 2009, 6:58 GMT

    @Alexk400 can u name some matches which dravid has won in his own?????

  • POSTED BY ramu27689 on | November 14, 2009, 6:57 GMT

    Good one Peter! Those guys who still question Tendulkar either dont understand the game or have got some sort of a personal grudge against him.32 ODI 100's in winning causes and 6 of them in finals is proof enough of his matchwinning abilities.And who can forget that matchwinnig 4th innings 100 against england in the chennai test match last year.This is greatest man to have ever played the game and watch and enjoy his game while you can,'cause it might not be long before he retires!!

  • POSTED BY myzone69 on | November 14, 2009, 6:55 GMT

    Its really interesting article. I read Peter Roebuck article very seriously. I was big criticizer of Sachin. But after seeing his innings in Hyderbad against Australia I am now admire him and feeling sorry for my ignorance. Really Sachin is greatest cricketer i have seen. When I was young, I had seen Boon and Marsh opening for Australia in those 84s World Series Tourney. But after seeing Sachin opening i want to touch the foot of this God of Cricket

  • POSTED BY abu_zayr on | November 14, 2009, 6:37 GMT

    Nice piece Peter! Just sums up Sachin in the past 2 decades !! I can't sign off until I comment on Alexk400 comments, you know what guys? kids like this Alexk400 are so ignorance that I feel sorry for him.. His comments have really offended me and I'm sure all indian who read his comment. I would request cricinfo to take this guys comments off right away.. Being an Indian living in Canada has not changed the way I feel for my country. One last word to Alexk400, do you even know the meaning of midgets? If you're refering midget to the Great Sachin then Allan Border, Sir Don & Ricky Ponting maybe refered to that as well. Grow up guy! Cricket now is INDIA not England Australia. ICC starts sweating when India exits early in their events.. The interest that TEAM INDIA bring to cricket and the TRP to ICC or any event is un-parallel, so just chill my man ALEXK400..

  • POSTED BY Pranav_Selva on | November 14, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    Sachin is phenomenon. I doubt another person making similar impact in billion of Indians and demand such a respect in world cricket. I am fortunate to witness some of his best innings as our generation does. He has entertained the cricket fans all over the world for the past 20 years which no body else had done. He is an icon, a perfect human being and a role model. I solute the Master

  • POSTED BY prashant1 on | November 14, 2009, 6:33 GMT

    SACHIN TENDULKAR-The Greatest Batsman of ALL Time (with due respect to the Don)- Amen.

  • POSTED BY mumbaiguy79 on | November 14, 2009, 5:58 GMT

    Great article Peter! Nothing bombastic, just plain simple words coming out of a Sachin fan. Nice!

  • POSTED BY ASK3 on | November 14, 2009, 5:45 GMT

    Great article that outlines Tendulkar perfectly

  • POSTED BY wasiq on | November 14, 2009, 4:46 GMT

    very interesting article

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 14, 2009, 4:26 GMT

    Ponting has 3 worldcups , sachin has none. Never won any game on his own. He will come close and lose the game. Even though losing a game is not his fault , he never played when india needed most. That iron man is Rahul dravid , india's greatest batsman. Sachin is for simplicity and greatest run accumulator. Nothing else. Zero leadership. Indians overhype things. But again a country that have 1 billion well built athlete army can't find 11 athletes is shocking. Something wrong with BCCI system, BCCI may be they do not want to see what they have. It take a while to accept and somone has to tell them , hey you have big tall well build guys and why you guys repeatedly select week midgets?.

  • POSTED BY sree78 on | November 14, 2009, 4:18 GMT

    great piece! The greatness of the little master is that under all circumstances and even when everyone ruled him out, he faught back - we are all privilaged to have witnessed a phenomenon called Sachin Tendulkar! Go Sachin GO!! You still have a lot in you to give!

  • POSTED BY SuchansXI on | November 14, 2009, 4:18 GMT

    Good article.. But I am sure Sachin is way too much ahead of Shane Warne or Brian Lara.. I don't understand why Peter Roebuck needs to assert baseless informations ( ball tampering, backing harbhajan, Car issue and so on).. Peter Roebucks tries to portray Sachin's cricket life as having ups and downs, but we all know what Sachin is and whether this is true or not..

    Sachin is the best.. Calling Shane warne as one of the most satisfying cricketer ALONGSIDE sachin, well doesn't that sound odd? Does shane warne carry i a billion hopes and worships everytime he enters into the field? Did Shane Warne single handedly had to carry Australian team for years together? Shane Warne is Good... Sachin is better.. I doubt if any cricketer in the world would have performed consistently as Sachin given the conditions he plays.. Peter, Please write about Sachin only when you are asked to do so.. Please don create a disgusting experience for the readers comparing him with others. Sachin is our GOD...

  • POSTED BY Notout_Naveen on | November 14, 2009, 4:13 GMT

    An extraordinary cricketer and a perfect gentleman. East or west Sachin is the best.

    Thanks peter for ur article.

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  • POSTED BY Notout_Naveen on | November 14, 2009, 4:13 GMT

    An extraordinary cricketer and a perfect gentleman. East or west Sachin is the best.

    Thanks peter for ur article.

  • POSTED BY SuchansXI on | November 14, 2009, 4:18 GMT

    Good article.. But I am sure Sachin is way too much ahead of Shane Warne or Brian Lara.. I don't understand why Peter Roebuck needs to assert baseless informations ( ball tampering, backing harbhajan, Car issue and so on).. Peter Roebucks tries to portray Sachin's cricket life as having ups and downs, but we all know what Sachin is and whether this is true or not..

    Sachin is the best.. Calling Shane warne as one of the most satisfying cricketer ALONGSIDE sachin, well doesn't that sound odd? Does shane warne carry i a billion hopes and worships everytime he enters into the field? Did Shane Warne single handedly had to carry Australian team for years together? Shane Warne is Good... Sachin is better.. I doubt if any cricketer in the world would have performed consistently as Sachin given the conditions he plays.. Peter, Please write about Sachin only when you are asked to do so.. Please don create a disgusting experience for the readers comparing him with others. Sachin is our GOD...

  • POSTED BY sree78 on | November 14, 2009, 4:18 GMT

    great piece! The greatness of the little master is that under all circumstances and even when everyone ruled him out, he faught back - we are all privilaged to have witnessed a phenomenon called Sachin Tendulkar! Go Sachin GO!! You still have a lot in you to give!

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | November 14, 2009, 4:26 GMT

    Ponting has 3 worldcups , sachin has none. Never won any game on his own. He will come close and lose the game. Even though losing a game is not his fault , he never played when india needed most. That iron man is Rahul dravid , india's greatest batsman. Sachin is for simplicity and greatest run accumulator. Nothing else. Zero leadership. Indians overhype things. But again a country that have 1 billion well built athlete army can't find 11 athletes is shocking. Something wrong with BCCI system, BCCI may be they do not want to see what they have. It take a while to accept and somone has to tell them , hey you have big tall well build guys and why you guys repeatedly select week midgets?.

  • POSTED BY wasiq on | November 14, 2009, 4:46 GMT

    very interesting article

  • POSTED BY ASK3 on | November 14, 2009, 5:45 GMT

    Great article that outlines Tendulkar perfectly

  • POSTED BY mumbaiguy79 on | November 14, 2009, 5:58 GMT

    Great article Peter! Nothing bombastic, just plain simple words coming out of a Sachin fan. Nice!

  • POSTED BY prashant1 on | November 14, 2009, 6:33 GMT

    SACHIN TENDULKAR-The Greatest Batsman of ALL Time (with due respect to the Don)- Amen.

  • POSTED BY Pranav_Selva on | November 14, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    Sachin is phenomenon. I doubt another person making similar impact in billion of Indians and demand such a respect in world cricket. I am fortunate to witness some of his best innings as our generation does. He has entertained the cricket fans all over the world for the past 20 years which no body else had done. He is an icon, a perfect human being and a role model. I solute the Master

  • POSTED BY abu_zayr on | November 14, 2009, 6:37 GMT

    Nice piece Peter! Just sums up Sachin in the past 2 decades !! I can't sign off until I comment on Alexk400 comments, you know what guys? kids like this Alexk400 are so ignorance that I feel sorry for him.. His comments have really offended me and I'm sure all indian who read his comment. I would request cricinfo to take this guys comments off right away.. Being an Indian living in Canada has not changed the way I feel for my country. One last word to Alexk400, do you even know the meaning of midgets? If you're refering midget to the Great Sachin then Allan Border, Sir Don & Ricky Ponting maybe refered to that as well. Grow up guy! Cricket now is INDIA not England Australia. ICC starts sweating when India exits early in their events.. The interest that TEAM INDIA bring to cricket and the TRP to ICC or any event is un-parallel, so just chill my man ALEXK400..