November 15, 2009

An Australian sort of hero

Tendulkar's single-minded dedication to run-scoring is something they identify with Down Under
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From the beginning, the relationship was about something bigger than admiration and affection. When Sachin Tendulkar set foot in Australia he brought with him rain.

Lismore, a place of board shorts and stubby coolers, on the far north hippie trail of New South Wales, was the strange location for Tendulkar's maiden first-class innings in Australia. Lismore hadn't seen rain - the kind of rain that wet your shirt - in months. The Indians arrived on a Friday, November 1991, and all that morning it poured, drowning out the net session they'd scheduled. They moved indoors and it poured some more.

Local politician Reg Baxter used a homemade super-sopper to get play started. Conditions were grey overhead and green underfoot, which made predicting the ball's flight path tricky. The bowling was top-shelf - Whitney, Lawson, Holdsworth, Matthews, Waugh, Waugh - and the batting a little gormless, all except for the one who was 18. Under the Oakes Oval pines he took careful guard, his head still, his footsteps like tiny, precise pinpricks, going backwards mostly, unless the bowler overpitched. Fifteen hundred people saw this, the great Alan Davidson among them. Davo was dumbfounded: "It's just not possible… such maturity."

Tendulkar hit 82 that afternoon, when no one else passed 24, then 59 out of 147 in the second innings. When Australians hear Indians grouch about their hero going missing in an emergency and having no appetite for a scrap, it always comes as a shock.

The Tendulkar Australians got to know, the one with the baby footsteps, had played cricket in six countries already. Still he looked like his team-mates' little brother. He ran faster than them all, a gammy-legged bunch, and as he ran, his eyes would be wide and round, and darting, as if alert to the danger that his team-mates' barely muzzled huffiness might distract him from important things. And what was important to Tendulkar - and here Australians saw in him something rare and precious, a single-mindedness they fancied they recognised in themselves - was run-getting.

Every bolt and screw in the Tendulkar technique seemed put there to aid the getting of runs. Tendulkar was a run-getting machine, except no machine could also be so graceful - or instinctive, for that's what it was, instinct, which told him that the way to bat was to attack. He didn't learn this. He knew it, inside himself. Runs were what counted. So nothing outlandish would be tried for the sake of outlandishness. Those footsteps were only as big as they had to be, for footwork was simply the thing that moved your body from its starting position to its ideal hitting position. Once you got there, you kept out the good ones and hit the loose ones hard. And when you hit hard, you did so along the ground - because you cannot get caught and get runs.

This is the way of Bradman, the way of Hill, Trumper, Harvey, the Chappells and the rest. Give him a pair of bushy mutton chops and paint a weathered furrow or two on his brow, and Tendulkar could pose for the cover of How to Play Cricket Australian Style.

Tacky facial add-ons, or some bleach-blond spikes, say, have never been Tendulkar's go, and Australians like that about him too. Australia takes its cricket seriously. Your after hours are for sombre reflection and practising your forward-defensive, not for phone-chasey with sheilas or motel-room hijinks in your Playboy undies. You occasionally hear it said wistfully that Tendulkar is the Australian Shane Warne could have been. It is a neat line but it undersells what they have in common. For if any two modern cricketers might be soul mates, it is Warne and Tendulkar, grandmasters of their arts. Bowling legspin comes as naturally to Warne as batting does to Tendulkar, which is to say, as naturally as the rest of us find breathing.

Tendulkar was a run-getting machine, except no machine could also be so graceful - or instinctive, for that's what it was, instinct, which told him that the way to bat was to attack

Two sublime Tendulkar hundreds lit up his first trip: one, in Sydney, as serene as a stroll through rhododendrons; the other, in Perth, more pugnacious, less repeatable. He didn't tour Australia again for eight years. But he visited. He went, with Warne, the two of them in beige suits, to see Sir Donald on his 90th birthday. Tendulkar got as excited as any Australian boy - "I consider myself one of the luckiest guys on earth" - and he asked Bradman the questions any Australian boy would ask, stuff about his stance and his grip and his bats.

When next he came to play cricket he was captain of India, and perhaps that did distract him from the really important things. But it lost him no admirers. Asked his views on sledging, he replied: "One should expect that at this level. You are playing Test cricket, not club cricket."

Always when he went to the wicket, Tendulkar's was the scalp on which the afternoon's destiny hung. Fieldsmen dived further, getting hands to quarter-chances that would normally have eluded fingertips. Umpires concentrated harder - too hard probably, if you tally up the bat-pad rulings that never got a feather, the creative licence applied to some leg-before-wicket interpretations. One never-to-be-forgotten day in Adelaide, Tendulkar was adjudged shoulder-before-wicket. "You almost want him to get a few runs," Mark Waugh once remarked, "just to see him." Odd how a cricketer so Australian as Tendulkar could provoke such un-Australian sentimentality.

He has toured Australia on four occasions, as many times as Bradman toured England. Like Bradman, he has never gone home without a Test hundred to his name.

One particular hundred - Sydney, 2003-04 - might outlive the others. When someone bats for 613 minutes, strung across three sweltering January days, the mind can wander, and as Tendulkar trudged on, making do without the cover drive, for it had caused his downfall too many times already, this mind wandered to Leichhardt and Giles and the famous explorers, who made do without company, without water, surviving on single-mindedness and instinct. He could do things to your imagination, this boy who knew how to make it rain.

Christian Ryan is a writer based in Melbourne. He is the author of Golden Boy: Kim Hughes and the Bad Old Days of Australian Cricket, published in March 2009

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  • OldAussie on November 18, 2009, 22:25 GMT

    It's fun reading the biases on this topic -and everyone is biased. But Neil247 is just silly: 'SACHIN TENDULKAR: The greatest batsman the world has ever seen'. Ever heard of an uncovered test wicket, Neil? When comparing cricketers rather than just batsmen, you have to see them as team men and fielders and captains too. Here Ponting [whose career has years to go, remember] is ahead of all the others. Lets look at stats again in a few years' time.. He has grown as a captain, unlike Tendulkar or Lara, and captaincy adds much to a player's image and pressure - recall Imran Khan, the Chappells, Waugh, Border [Border, in his weak Aussie era, is underrated as a great bat]. Ponting is a much greater fielder than his two rivals, so while not quite as great as the others in technique, and considering he played in stronger sides, he lays claim to being the greatest CRICKETER of his era. Any arguments on that call?

  • JackJak on November 18, 2009, 17:59 GMT

    Cricket's power center should shift from india to Australia, South Africa England and other countries..Wish that could happen but unfortunately thats like expecting Ashish Nehra to score a test century. India is full of corruption. Poor Azharuddin was made a scapegoat with match fixing...but now its much worse...Now its called Board Fixing/corporate fixing...And it happens so decently that nobody ever realizes that its all a drama. Its sad to see Brett Lee charging in to bowl full steam for that lousy airtel champs league bowling yorkers..but during india/aus series he packed his bags...cricket sure is progressing.

  • JackJak on November 18, 2009, 17:52 GMT

    Sachin will stretch it and play till 2015 as well...he might even play the 2015 world cup even on one leg even if he is injured. Thats how great he is. Seriously all you Sachin supporters have gone mad...the media hypnotizes you with mindless sachin crap and everyone starts believing in that as the truth. Statistics are meaningless. India's greatest wins have not been achieved because of sachin ever. Anyway the current indian team is more like a team of models ...zaheer khan runs in to bowl has a rehearsed stare if he beats the batsman even if the ball barely reaches the wicketkeeper...then the Team india huddle ..so fake. Have some originality. Start winning and playing to win than putting on a show. Sachin and this indian team are the lousiest bunch going around in world cricket..frauds

  • VSGHarihar on November 18, 2009, 11:24 GMT

    Hey TrueCricFan ...u r a junk idiot...

    Better u go & read or listen what true seasoned observers have to say about Lara.. When Lara retired ..The Hindu (India's National newspaper) saluted Lara as Cricket's last emperor & mentioned Lara above all contemporary cricketers.... CNN-IBN mentioned Lara-Unarguably the greatest batsman! BBC World in 2003 mentioned Lara never lost his mantle of the best batsman ...& also argued him to be the best of all-time in 2005...

    Dei kanna (Superstar Rajini style)...do u know anything abt greats like Barnes, Longmen, Hobbs...or u atleast know abt Gupte...u hell telling I dont know abt anything...

    If I had met u ...u would have gone..only GOD could save u... Satyameva Jeyathe...Lara is king...Sachin is not an equal to Lara... Hero da Lara

  • digital_storm on November 18, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    Despite the supposed needlessness of comparisons, I am going to throw my hat in make some comments.

    In my opinion, Ricky Ponting may be regarded a slightly better test bastman on two simple counts - higher average, higher proportion of man of the match awards.

    However, and this is one thing no one EVER talks about and that is Tendulkar's total value as a cricketer. Ponting is nowhere near as good a bowler as Tendulkar is. In fielding, Ponting is an all-time great but again, something that is NEVER talked about is that Tendulkar is one of the most consistent and all-round fielders India has had. Not many know that, for long, Tendulkar has run the 100 metre dash fastest among his team-mates- a quality that made him a brilliant outfielder apart from being a very consistent close-in fielder. So, the gap between Ponting's fielding and Tendulkar's is not as large as that between their bowling.

    And as far as one-day cricket is concerned, Tendulkar is decidedly the better batsman.

  • prasun1519 on November 18, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    V.GOMES I think you forget a simple point that a batsman cannot win a trophy despite his teammates perform poorly. In Champions Trophy as well as India tour Ponting got terrific support from Shane Watson. In fact in final of Champions Trophy Ponting got out cheaply. It was the brilliant partnership between Watson and White that won it for them. Ponting, Lara, Sachin, Dravid all are great sportsmen and played some brilliant game by their own in some difficult time and difficult situation. We cannot compare them by statistics or records.

  • Zahidsaltin on November 18, 2009, 10:52 GMT

    Sachin is great but no where near Gavasker or Richards. His biggest acheivement is to do it for 20 years. An era where every xyz enjoys 50+ average, a lot of them in every team, the airport runway like wickets ( just look at the one they are playing at the ongoing match) tells all.

  • SatyajitM on November 18, 2009, 9:45 GMT

    It's unfair to call Sachin God, as no person is the God (or even a God!). Sachin is what Gavaskar says "closest to batting perfection" and Viv say "99.5% perfect". The key words are 'closest' and '99.5'. Nobody is 100% (not even Bradman). But 99.5% is not too bad. I find the comparison to Pele unfair as Pele was a champion player playing for a champion team. For your kind knowledge in 1962 soccer WC Pele was injured by second match but still Brazil went on to win the cup. Johan Cruyff and Puskas could never win the WC for their teams (their teams were not bad either) but are still considered among the greatest footballers. Lets accept that in WC03 Aus was by far the superios team. It would have been a upset had India won the final (like 1983). But upsets don't happen always. Aus missed Warne but that didn't matter to them. I am pretty sure they could have won it without ponting as well. In a team game individual brilliance does help but that alone can not win you championships.

  • aadirag on November 18, 2009, 9:15 GMT

    Ricky Ponting's name shouldn't come up in the same sentence as Tendulkar's.Aus play 5 tests against england in the ashes every 18 months.Cumulatively,thats 10 tests every 3 years home & away.If India played that many games against poor lil england,Sachin would have had 50-60 test tons by now.Also Ponting's average in India is not even 20.You can't be called a great,let alone greatest batsman of a generation if you only average that much.The legendary Tendulkar would have been referred to as a good batsman by all of us if he only averaged 20 in a country where he would have played a significant amount of cricket.Aussies should consider what Hayden did for them & think if He & not Ponting was their best in this era.

  • edygriff21 on November 18, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    prashant1- you said "In the 90s in much more difficult batting conditions, with far superior bowling attacks he is well clear of ponting and lara". He scored 53 more runs than Lara in the 90's and only cause of a few not outs has a slightly better ave. Ponting didn't start his test career till the end of 95, but still averaged 45 after selecters hampered his career by dropping him (once after an 88 in west indies against one of these "superior bowling attacks" we keep hearing about). KishoreSharma- I recall watching Richards a lot as a kid and don't remember spinners worrying him too much, just him stepping down and flogging it straight or over cow. I think he scored something like 7 centuries against the indians, so he couldn't have been too bad.

  • OldAussie on November 18, 2009, 22:25 GMT

    It's fun reading the biases on this topic -and everyone is biased. But Neil247 is just silly: 'SACHIN TENDULKAR: The greatest batsman the world has ever seen'. Ever heard of an uncovered test wicket, Neil? When comparing cricketers rather than just batsmen, you have to see them as team men and fielders and captains too. Here Ponting [whose career has years to go, remember] is ahead of all the others. Lets look at stats again in a few years' time.. He has grown as a captain, unlike Tendulkar or Lara, and captaincy adds much to a player's image and pressure - recall Imran Khan, the Chappells, Waugh, Border [Border, in his weak Aussie era, is underrated as a great bat]. Ponting is a much greater fielder than his two rivals, so while not quite as great as the others in technique, and considering he played in stronger sides, he lays claim to being the greatest CRICKETER of his era. Any arguments on that call?

  • JackJak on November 18, 2009, 17:59 GMT

    Cricket's power center should shift from india to Australia, South Africa England and other countries..Wish that could happen but unfortunately thats like expecting Ashish Nehra to score a test century. India is full of corruption. Poor Azharuddin was made a scapegoat with match fixing...but now its much worse...Now its called Board Fixing/corporate fixing...And it happens so decently that nobody ever realizes that its all a drama. Its sad to see Brett Lee charging in to bowl full steam for that lousy airtel champs league bowling yorkers..but during india/aus series he packed his bags...cricket sure is progressing.

  • JackJak on November 18, 2009, 17:52 GMT

    Sachin will stretch it and play till 2015 as well...he might even play the 2015 world cup even on one leg even if he is injured. Thats how great he is. Seriously all you Sachin supporters have gone mad...the media hypnotizes you with mindless sachin crap and everyone starts believing in that as the truth. Statistics are meaningless. India's greatest wins have not been achieved because of sachin ever. Anyway the current indian team is more like a team of models ...zaheer khan runs in to bowl has a rehearsed stare if he beats the batsman even if the ball barely reaches the wicketkeeper...then the Team india huddle ..so fake. Have some originality. Start winning and playing to win than putting on a show. Sachin and this indian team are the lousiest bunch going around in world cricket..frauds

  • VSGHarihar on November 18, 2009, 11:24 GMT

    Hey TrueCricFan ...u r a junk idiot...

    Better u go & read or listen what true seasoned observers have to say about Lara.. When Lara retired ..The Hindu (India's National newspaper) saluted Lara as Cricket's last emperor & mentioned Lara above all contemporary cricketers.... CNN-IBN mentioned Lara-Unarguably the greatest batsman! BBC World in 2003 mentioned Lara never lost his mantle of the best batsman ...& also argued him to be the best of all-time in 2005...

    Dei kanna (Superstar Rajini style)...do u know anything abt greats like Barnes, Longmen, Hobbs...or u atleast know abt Gupte...u hell telling I dont know abt anything...

    If I had met u ...u would have gone..only GOD could save u... Satyameva Jeyathe...Lara is king...Sachin is not an equal to Lara... Hero da Lara

  • digital_storm on November 18, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    Despite the supposed needlessness of comparisons, I am going to throw my hat in make some comments.

    In my opinion, Ricky Ponting may be regarded a slightly better test bastman on two simple counts - higher average, higher proportion of man of the match awards.

    However, and this is one thing no one EVER talks about and that is Tendulkar's total value as a cricketer. Ponting is nowhere near as good a bowler as Tendulkar is. In fielding, Ponting is an all-time great but again, something that is NEVER talked about is that Tendulkar is one of the most consistent and all-round fielders India has had. Not many know that, for long, Tendulkar has run the 100 metre dash fastest among his team-mates- a quality that made him a brilliant outfielder apart from being a very consistent close-in fielder. So, the gap between Ponting's fielding and Tendulkar's is not as large as that between their bowling.

    And as far as one-day cricket is concerned, Tendulkar is decidedly the better batsman.

  • prasun1519 on November 18, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    V.GOMES I think you forget a simple point that a batsman cannot win a trophy despite his teammates perform poorly. In Champions Trophy as well as India tour Ponting got terrific support from Shane Watson. In fact in final of Champions Trophy Ponting got out cheaply. It was the brilliant partnership between Watson and White that won it for them. Ponting, Lara, Sachin, Dravid all are great sportsmen and played some brilliant game by their own in some difficult time and difficult situation. We cannot compare them by statistics or records.

  • Zahidsaltin on November 18, 2009, 10:52 GMT

    Sachin is great but no where near Gavasker or Richards. His biggest acheivement is to do it for 20 years. An era where every xyz enjoys 50+ average, a lot of them in every team, the airport runway like wickets ( just look at the one they are playing at the ongoing match) tells all.

  • SatyajitM on November 18, 2009, 9:45 GMT

    It's unfair to call Sachin God, as no person is the God (or even a God!). Sachin is what Gavaskar says "closest to batting perfection" and Viv say "99.5% perfect". The key words are 'closest' and '99.5'. Nobody is 100% (not even Bradman). But 99.5% is not too bad. I find the comparison to Pele unfair as Pele was a champion player playing for a champion team. For your kind knowledge in 1962 soccer WC Pele was injured by second match but still Brazil went on to win the cup. Johan Cruyff and Puskas could never win the WC for their teams (their teams were not bad either) but are still considered among the greatest footballers. Lets accept that in WC03 Aus was by far the superios team. It would have been a upset had India won the final (like 1983). But upsets don't happen always. Aus missed Warne but that didn't matter to them. I am pretty sure they could have won it without ponting as well. In a team game individual brilliance does help but that alone can not win you championships.

  • aadirag on November 18, 2009, 9:15 GMT

    Ricky Ponting's name shouldn't come up in the same sentence as Tendulkar's.Aus play 5 tests against england in the ashes every 18 months.Cumulatively,thats 10 tests every 3 years home & away.If India played that many games against poor lil england,Sachin would have had 50-60 test tons by now.Also Ponting's average in India is not even 20.You can't be called a great,let alone greatest batsman of a generation if you only average that much.The legendary Tendulkar would have been referred to as a good batsman by all of us if he only averaged 20 in a country where he would have played a significant amount of cricket.Aussies should consider what Hayden did for them & think if He & not Ponting was their best in this era.

  • edygriff21 on November 18, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    prashant1- you said "In the 90s in much more difficult batting conditions, with far superior bowling attacks he is well clear of ponting and lara". He scored 53 more runs than Lara in the 90's and only cause of a few not outs has a slightly better ave. Ponting didn't start his test career till the end of 95, but still averaged 45 after selecters hampered his career by dropping him (once after an 88 in west indies against one of these "superior bowling attacks" we keep hearing about). KishoreSharma- I recall watching Richards a lot as a kid and don't remember spinners worrying him too much, just him stepping down and flogging it straight or over cow. I think he scored something like 7 centuries against the indians, so he couldn't have been too bad.

  • Grind1NSW1into1dirt on November 18, 2009, 8:04 GMT

    Street fight - Yes because Indian bloggers continue to say Sachin is God and Sachin is this and sachin is that. He is 5ft 5 and chokes in world cups. End of story.

    Ricky "The King" Ponting is a Test Run Machine, and holds 3 World Cup Trophys ICC Champions Trophy, etc. etc.

    He also captained a 4-2 win in the recent series over India in india, which is not easy to do.

    The facts are: Tendulkar is a very good player, he is probably better suited to ODI's though as his Test record is pretty average amonst the 2-10 best of all time. Bradman being no.1. Ponting however, is King in all forms of the game. Test match win record, series win record, ODI game win %, series win %, World Cup victories, ICC Champions trophy, Ricky has done it all and will continue to do more.

    Recent 4-2 series win in India with a young inexperienced team shows the strength and quality of the man. Ponting has showed he is the KING, you could say KING KONG of cricket. - KKC for short. Hail the KING !

  • bohra_1 on November 18, 2009, 7:08 GMT

    Read most of the comments, Tendulkar has only basic thing lacking, which is the KILLING INSTINT, {To go for the kill, even if u not well equipped}. Now this phenomena is built in which the great Imran Khan , Richards had, Jaysuryia has and pointing to some extent (you can see his body language when he(pointing) is on the loosing side). Now Tendulkar has a worry in his mind, what would happen if i get out, so he never does anything challenging a bit extra beyond perfect techniques, he all his life has left the good ball, and scored on bad balls. This is the reason he has failed in all crunch situations which are the world cups. Never blasted McGrath or Waseem Akram out of park, always worried about his own stats. 20 years speak that, some players are like that, i always loved to see lara & i miss jaysuryia leaving anytime, whether Tendulkar plays or retires it is waste of cricket. He is only for himself and not for the game. People who will read this will critisize me, but this is true.

  • crazysloggers on November 18, 2009, 5:47 GMT

    "He has toured Australia on four occasions, as many times as Bradman toured England. Like Bradman, he has never gone home without a Test hundred to his name".

    thats the difference between tendulkar and ponting, so where were the top bowlers all these years?

  • V.GOMES on November 18, 2009, 4:31 GMT

    By glorifying Sachin (the cricketer who has lost the most games in history while playing with good team mates), you are glorifying the art of loosing. You are glorifying the art of failing at the biggest stage in cricket, the world cup (after getting more opportunities than any other player & while playing with good teammates). Dear Sachin fan(atics), the individual stats that you guys are in love with is leading to yourteams faliure. Keep glorifying the art of LOOSING. Now I understand why the country with the 2nd biggest poppulation in the world has only won one (1) gold medal in the Olympics. Try to breed winners who play one day and wins the big one (world cup), instead of a lifetime of losing it (20 years).

  • V.GOMES on November 18, 2009, 4:28 GMT

    By glorifying Sachin (the cricketer who has lost the most games in history while playing with good team mates), you are glorifying the art of loosing. You are glorifying the art of failing at the biggest stage in cricket, the world cup (after getting more opportunities than any other player & while playing with good teammates). Dear Sachin fan(atics), the individual stats that you guys are in love with is leading to yourteams faliure. Keep glorifying the art of LOOSING. Now I understand why the country with the 2nd biggest poppulation in the world has only won one (1) gold medal in the Olympics. Try to breed winners who play one day and wins the big one (world cup), instead of a lifetime of losing it (20 years).

  • CricFan78 on November 18, 2009, 3:46 GMT

    V Gomes you are making a mickey out of yourself by saying that Sachin and Lara are not great batsmen because they havent won an ODI world cup. Since when was ODIs used to determine great batsman. A great batsman is one who can dominate pace, swing and spin. Both Lara and Sachin had dominated spin in sub-continent, swing in England and pace in Australia. The likes of Ponting has only dominated pace but he has never been able to play any dominating innings against spin in India or swing in England. I will still consider Ponting a great just because of volume of runs he has scored but he will always remain below Lara and Sachin. In fact if you look at recent all-time Australian XI on cricinfo Ponting wasnt even part of that team.

  • boooonnie on November 18, 2009, 2:15 GMT

    FIRST - Im not sure whether Tendulker should be described as an Australian Hero. Certainly Australians admire him greatly but he is an Indian born and bred and those wonderful qualities that he displays are a result of him being Indian. SECOND - Why I tend to think that Tendulker is slightly better better then Lara and Ponting thowing around stats and weaknesses about all three players, who their bowling opponents were and their respective countries performance gets very tedious indeed. These players are some of the best batsmen this great game has ever seen. I think the best way to appreciate them is to enjoy their skills - not to over analys them!

  • edygriff21 on November 17, 2009, 20:25 GMT

    What... did Tendulkar stop playing for a few years in the 2000's? He's played the whole of the 2000's, so if "ponting and lara just piled on easy runs in the mid 2000s and so buttressed their stats" it would stand to reason that Tendulkar would too, since he played these same bowlers. No doubt we'll hear the excuses that he was injured and there was so much pressure on him, for the 1000th time. Ponting's played with wrist injuries and had knee injuries as well as having the captaincy and expectations of a nation use to winning. People keep metioning the "injury years" from 2003-2007, and how every one else scored runs to inflate their averages. Well he always seemed to be fit when it came time to belting bangledesh during these years. 248* vs bang, 101 vs bang, 122* vs bang. So who was inflating thier average? We know!! Just a billion people living in asia won't admit it.

  • wbh6 on November 17, 2009, 16:55 GMT

    People seem overly obsessed with statistics; these can be very instructive but often do not tell the full story. It's also interesting to see bellicose patriotism take the place of objective assessment. I don't really care which country Tendulkar comes from, or how he shades Lara or Ponting, or is shaded by them, as the best batsman in the last 10-15 years or so. Such arguments are ridiculous and can never be resolved, with or without statistics, as they are built not only on one's own subjective experience but on varying definitions of "greatness". I am just glad to have followed the career of a truly great player, one who has maintained grace and focus despite his fame. I'm just sad, coming from NZ, that I never really got to see, in person, Tendulkar at his best.

  • prashant1 on November 17, 2009, 15:47 GMT

    Sachins the best-certainly among the modern greats. In the 90s in much more difficult batting conditions, with far superior bowling attacks he is well clear of ponting and lara. ponting and lara just piled on easy runs in the mid 2000s and so buttressed their stats...which is why they are so misleading. in pure batting terms Sachin is head and shoulders above all the other modern day greats.

  • KishoreSharma on November 17, 2009, 15:14 GMT

    Bibhitiking: Im an afraid your assessment of Gavaskar's record is incorrect. He rarely played the West Indian quartet at their peak and when he did (in 1983) had a poor series. In addition, he has never faced Lillee and Thomson together at their peak (where did you get that idea from?). He scored a lot of his runs against weakened Packer teams of the late 1970s and the average West Indian attacks of the early 1970s. Overall he is still a great batsman but do not get the wrong idea that he was some sort of divinity against fast bowling. Eddygriff1 - you make some good points. But you are wrong that Richards was a brilliant player of spin (in fact he also had a weakness against quality seam bowling). Of course, if you peer into anyone's record you wills ee weaknesses here and there. But if you see the bigger picture, you will see a completeness and consistency in Tendulkar's record across all formats of the game and against all types of bowling that is missing in the others.

  • Vansan on November 17, 2009, 13:35 GMT

    This is like streetfight here. Salute the 20yrs service of Sachin, and I WOULD SAY Sachin is the greatest indian batsman, and he stalnds alongside all the great cricketers of world. SACHIN or PONTING or LARA are on same level, no one is better than each other, as each of them, showed their skills at different times, at different levels. so all extreme ppl, calm ur nerves

  • crazysloggers on November 17, 2009, 13:00 GMT

    Sachin is a gentleman in all aspects which ponting is not. well ponting is in the better team, he is a great batsman and a captain, nobody has a doubt in tat, but he is not a batsman as good as sachin, thats the simple fact. i would infact compare lara with sachin but not ponting..ponting, kallis and dravid are in a different league. somebody wrote about the monkey gate thingy...sad to know that symonds is no more in the team.. and its for disciplinary measures..well tat sums it up...

  • V.GOMES on November 17, 2009, 12:57 GMT

    CricFan78 & other Sachin fans keep going back to stats when the rest of us are focusing on wins and losses and world cups. For the last time, cricket is a TEAM game where the only stat that matters are wins and losses. Lossses Tendulkar is the leader in that we all know. World cups tendulkar has 0. That we all know. Yes runs and wickets are important, but without wining the world cup, Sachin is mere mortal. Murali, Ponting, Warne, Jayasuria, Viv, and few others have both (a) a lot of runs/wickets (b) world cup. Micheal Jordan would not be considered the best if he not championships and just loads of points and a high average. He has won at every level including the olimpics and 6 NBA titles. Same with Pele in football. I think the best batsmen of all time is Ponting and best bowler of all time in obviously Murali. (if anyone feels Ponting won coz he had a good team, then explain to me the past Champions trophy & the rescent ODI series in India. Averase side but still won).

  • GlennyTrimble on November 17, 2009, 12:30 GMT

    I think people are forgetting Australia's greatest batsman of the past 30 years - Stuart Law. The guy was so good, he never even got a test average! Well you don't do you when you score 53 not out in your only knock... Then again he probably didn't deserve one after dropping that sitter on the boundary in the World Cup Final against Sri Lanka. I mean it wasn't that big an error or anything, it only cost us a World Cup!!

    I still treasure the day at the MCG when Australia's worst ever "batsman" (I use that term very loosely...) Jim Higgs put the periscope up ducking a Lance Cairns bouncer. He edged it and should have been given out (thus stranding Dougie Walters on 91) but the umpire called it a no-ball, citing it "intimidatory bowling"! Since when has a bouncer by a medium pacer bowled to a bloke wearing pads, gloves and a helmet been considered intimidatory? Higgs then stuck around long enough (um, avoided the strike) for Walters to reach what would become his last test 100.

  • dayskidragon on November 17, 2009, 10:27 GMT

    @StatsguruMaster

    I was just wondering how you compare pointings record against india and sachins record against SA! you should do the same against australia right.? let me remind you about that record vs australia in australia 58.53 and in india 54 which is great when compared to ricky in same manner.now this s belting their brain out.and only bagladesh and zimbabue minnows.? what about ricky 100 aginst west indies..ooo.. worst form since 1999 world cup and 7 centuries against them.what a player! and see pointings last 3 year avg's after greats of australia have gone 38,47, 40 .! see same for sachins 55 , 48 , 58 .! present form speaks mate.! not history..

  • PallathZ on November 17, 2009, 9:29 GMT

    As one of the gentleman put it ,Sachin Tendulkar is truly a minow basher.. He bashed the minnows Australians in his first overseas series there & in all subsequent series & in different formats of the game & different parts of the world to an extent that one of the most premier Minnow bowler had nightmares of Sachin bashing…

    1992 - 148* at Sydney & 110 at Perth ( The minnow bowlers : Merv Hughes,Bruce Reid..) 1999 - 116 at Melbourne (Touring Australia after 8 years,Bowlers Mcgrath,Warne,Gillespie ....etc,despite the Umpiring) 2004 - 241* at Sydney ( Again Minnows ..Lee & co) 2008 - 154* at Sydney,153 (Adeliade) ( Again Minnows ..Lee & co)

    Plus numerous hundreds scored against the minnows in all parts of the world

    143 & 134 odd in the desert - 1998 Sharjah 141(Dhaka) odd in the Champions trophy Bangladesh against the same Aussie minnows 110 (Colombo) - Singer Cup

    Each one of the greats like Sachin & Lara have their own traits & strengths..Bo

  • Rohan1 on November 17, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    Few extremely obvious points: 1) certain citizens of neighbouring countries of india are consumed by jealousy 2) as per several stats by others ponting,lara etc can only compare with Tendulkar when tendulkar is injured 3) in much ,much more difficult batting conditions in the 90s and early 2000s tendulkar was miles above all other batsmen including ponting,lara etc.

  • CricFan78 on November 17, 2009, 9:25 GMT

    Ricky Ponting's away average against top nations Pak, SL, SA, India and Eng is paltry 41. How can such a batsman be called great. He has scored away runs against easier teams like NZ and WI in this century.

  • Grind1NSW1into1dirt on November 17, 2009, 9:23 GMT

    Sachin Tendulkar = World Cup failures.

    Mcgrath has got him a few times in big matches when it really counts.

    Now McGrath has gone someone else will take up the mantle of having Tendulkar as their World Cup Bunny.

    Thats if Tendulkar selfishly keeps on playing which no doubt he will. Tendulkar might end up like cassius clay and embarrass himself in front of the world on TV.

  • CricFan78 on November 17, 2009, 9:08 GMT

    Comparing Tendulkar with Ponting is big joke specially with help of stats. If anything Ponting, like Haydos, is a home town bully who could never dominate either spin or swing in his career. Ponting has been found wanting on spinning tracks in India and the only time he has scored some runs in SL is in first inns of match when the tracks are flat. He has failed to dominate even average swing bowlers in England. Ponting is only good at tracks where ball comes on at good height and pace and thats why his record is good at SA and Aus. His away average is not even 50 and that away average is also inflated by scoring tons of runs against poor WI bowling attacks this year.

  • Neil247 on November 17, 2009, 8:21 GMT

    @eranga_abey: especially for u . there is an article on cricinfo itself " tendulkars final onslaught"........just like i suggested on of many " a once in a century star" by steve waugh for some others......u too should read and learn...from ppl who know what they are talking about rather than from those who have probably never even held a bat in their lives b4

  • Neil247 on November 17, 2009, 8:11 GMT

    Jeez, theres more!! 3rd inn avgs: tendulkar 44.1; lara 40.4 ; ponting 42.2. LOL thats the end of u mate! are u simply green with envy that your particular geographical region has never produce , nor will ever produce , a tendulkar ? or are u on something?

  • Neil247 on November 17, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    Some more figures for u- 1) Till 2003: The big 3 :SRT 8811@ 57.6 31 hun, BCL 7572@49.5 18 hun; Pont 4246 @ 48.8 14 hun. After mid 2007 again Tendlkar trumps Ponting. 2)Basically it is ONLY during Tendulkars injury yrs (2003-07)- where not only the laras and pontings but just about ALL batsmen outscored him. ALL batsmen scored obscene runs in this 4yr period so inflating their stats. 3)The only and correct conclusion is that the laras and pontings can ONLY match Tendulkar when tendulkar is injured. The rest of the time it is a NO contest.

  • StatsguruMaster on November 17, 2009, 7:23 GMT

    dayskidragon -- Ponting's record is not poor against spinners. His record against Murali (the greatest spinner apart from Warne) for instance is 57. In fact, the only place he really struggles is against India and only IN India. Against India at home he averages a mammoth 79.

    And while Ponting has a poor record in India - which is his only poor record anywhere - Tendulkar is equally poor in India against South Africa and also mediocre against them in South Africa. Whereas Ponting while being poor in India, belts their brains out in Australia.

  • edygriff21 on November 17, 2009, 7:20 GMT

    Neil247 - my bad, was looking at the strikerates of lara and ponting. It still shows Ponting along way ahead. You say "Pontings 4 inn figures are inflated because of several NO while chasing small scores for Aus". This is the point i'm trying to make. Ponting handles the pressure better and gets Australia wins or sets it up for the middle order. Tendulkar doesn't. Tendulkars average is inflated because of so many innings against Zim and Bang though. dayskidragon- taking out the minnows they are even- 36 each but pontings only played 128 tests to Tendulkars 145. And you got the match results wrong. Since 2001 the record is India 7- Australia 6

  • Whymanwhy on November 17, 2009, 6:57 GMT

    i realy dont understand ... y is sachin being compared....he is way ahead dan al d oders...n if som1 says dat jayasurya plays 4 his country n sachin does not,wel mayb he hs watchd cricket 4 d first tym n ders no use talkin 2 sch ppl..4 d kind info. i'd share d fact dat d highest n 2nd highest runs in a world cup r 4m sachin's bat.....20 yrs, record runs do not go2 1's pocket bt also 2 d indian scorecard...he hs been,he is nd he wil b d greatest batsman o d world irrespective of whoevr writes watevr bulshit here....n som1's rite..he's not n australian like..coz hes n INDIAN like hu hs been breakin al records

  • SatyajitM on November 17, 2009, 6:55 GMT

    It's funny how people like edygrigg21 change statistics to demean Sachin. As per him progressive innings scores for Lara is 65, 63, 55, 52 and Ponting 61, 60, 55, 62. You scratch your head and wonder, then how come Lara average 52 and Ponting 55 overall? The fact is Lara's 4th innings avg is 35 (worse than Sachin, who has 37) and Pontings 53. Now if you want to get little deeper into Punter's stats and check his 4th innings avg since Jul 2007, it's merely 31.8! While Punter's career 4th inninigs avg 53 is pretty close to his career avg 55, why in last 28 months (farely long time) he average 12 less in 4th innings? (his overall avg since Jul 2007 is 43.9). The simple fact is that for last two years or so, Aus is a lot more vulnerable team and when he goes out to play in the 4th innings he is under pressure (unlike earlier). It's a typical human trait. Just like Lara and Sachin, Ponting too fail in 4th innings playing in an average team.

  • dayskidragon on November 17, 2009, 5:27 GMT

    edygriff21

    you , yourself told that sachin has 36 centuries apart from minnows still is higher than ricky.Ricky in no way is greater than sachin.Ricky's record against indian spinners is very poor.Singh is also bowler right , loosing wickets to him is also called struggling against spinners. and not to forget he struggled a lot to praveen and mishra too in india when they loose 2-0 in test match series. apart from the cheating test played in sydney india s having a record of 6-3 against australia since 2001 including 2008 unbeated 2-0 win against australia.

  • Neil247 on November 17, 2009, 5:26 GMT

    @eddgrif21- strange. i did a quick check. the 4th innings figures are Tendulkar:36.7, Lara :35.1 , Ponting:53.8. So, not only are you incorrectly obsessed. Your obsession has started causing you to invent figures. Also, please check the records of your dear laras and pontings on the indian "flat tracks"- should be an eye opener. LEt me also explain to you the meaning of a flat track- it is one which doesnt assist ANY type of bowler. such as ANTIGUA. by the 4th and 5th days many subcontinental tracks are a spinners delight and a batsmens nightmare. Pontings 4 inn figures are inflated because of several NO while chasing small scores for Aus. also they are not in India...i.e in other countries where there is not much difference between the 1st and last days pitch. i guess you have LOTS and LOTS to learn about cricket ....start with this article: "a once in a century star" by steve waugh..you may learn something

  • Neil247 on November 17, 2009, 5:15 GMT

    3)Conclusions: Obviously at his best Tendulkar was the best. That too at a particularly difficult time for batting. Plus if you add odis: Final conclusion: SACHIN TENDULKAR :The greatest batsman the world has ever seen. SO,for those throwing selective stats around, this shows CLEARLY. the ONLY reason the laras,pontings and other lesser batsmsen are even being talked about in the same FRAME as tendulkar is because they piled on runs( as did EVERYBODY) when tendulkar was injured. so, the ONLY thing that can be said is that these folks are better than an injured tendulkar. check out the stats again after around mid 2007 and again tendulkar trumps ponting. SO, all the mediocre batsmen piled on silly runs for a period of 4 yrs , which makes it appear that they are in the same frame. NOW you know the truth.

  • Neil247 on November 17, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    1)Till 2003: The big 3 :SRT 8811@ 57.6 31 hun, BCL 7572@49.5 18 hun; Pont 4246 @ 48.8 14 hun. 2) After the 2003 WC-2006, here's a short bio of Tendulkar: April 2003: Hand surgery.Most of the next 2 seasons affected by Tennis elbow. At one point in 2004 could not pick up a bat for 6 months. Prematurely brought back after attempting conservative treatment for tennis elbow after India lost the first 2 home tests to Aus. With the inevitable result-more pain and a forced surgery May 2005: for elbow surgery. April 2006: shoulder surgery. Tendulkar has had some injuries before but they were not all compressed into a short period so recurring. (1998: back injury, 2001 broken toe). So, you have time to get back your rhythm after injury, provided you don't again get another one.

  • Eranga_Abey on November 17, 2009, 5:06 GMT

    During his 20 years of cricket life he couldnt support to win any world cup for his country.That's very unfortunate.But compare Sachin to Jayasuriya you will see lot.Jayasuriya is a match winner and has played one man handle innings for his country...Sachin is said as selfish batsman who only worry about his average while Jayasuriya is only worry about his country victory...We have seen Sachin is waisting more balls when he is at 90..4 balls just enough to jayasuriya if has reached 90 to go to 100....

  • baalus2009 on November 17, 2009, 4:32 GMT

    dear edygriff21 your statistics are super. it all reflects your opinion you had before venturing into sachin statistics.i am a statistician and i know how well u can u can manipulate it selectively to ur preconceived and wanted opinion/ result.u may be right u may have put ur point like a professional statistician like ur professional team. how will u compare/ or give weightage to passion for sports, simplicity,selflessness,technique , expectations over u,other team players calibre at various point of time ,how many matches u played etc. shall i give prove all your statistics insignificant by taking all these variales it will be easy for me. but remember my dear friend sport is played not only for winning/scoring , players r ambassadors of good will , sportmanship which sachin displays can not be compared by statistics.by using statistics alone u have missed the real point.sachin is being cherished by ur ponting /bradman/ lara becoz he scores in all these areas.STATISTICS DO LIE FRND

  • Deenesh on November 17, 2009, 2:32 GMT

    Tendulkar truly is an australian indian batsman. For all his Aussie traits, he is very much indian, and i if not for him, india in the last era would not have been half as renowned as it was. only now, under the captaincy of Dhoi, and a quiver of youngsters has India finally become a complete team. Before, it was just tendulkar and any others who could scrape together some runs. His greatness shows in hos longtivity.

  • edygriff21 on November 17, 2009, 2:21 GMT

    indianpunter- we don't do much of it, thats why we can't spell it. Now you can obviously spell it. why? cause your use to doing it, and Tendulkars been there for most of it.

  • edygriff21 on November 17, 2009, 0:59 GMT

    How people can say he is "consistant" and "great under pressure" is laughable. Again check his stats. When is batting hard? answer- the 2nd innings of a game when the pitches have deteriorated and the game is on the line, either needing to set up a win or save a test. Tendulkar is neither of the afore mentioned. He is great on first inning flat tracks. Stats don't lie. Here are the ave's 1st inn- 71 2nd-54 3rd-44 and a 4th inning ave a dismal 37 when the pressures on. check out Lara's and pontings. lara- 65, 63, 55, 52. Ponting 61, 60, 55, 62. Both of them are consistant and great under pressure. Tendulkar is not. Another reason not to ever call him Australian like. Flat track bully and minnow basher

  • bapu24 on November 17, 2009, 0:55 GMT

    This is for critics of The Great Sachin Tendulkar, who thinks sachin is not gr8.

    Sachin Tendulkar has been given Man Of The Match awards"60" times (awesome!) in ODI and 11 times in Test cricket...

    It means The Gr8 Sachin has help out the INDIAN team total of 71 times..It shows how gr8 he is ......It's a record itself of most number of MOM......plus he is playing cricket for 20 years ,,,,it's hard to be consistent for so many years... Sachin rocks/....!!!!

  • kalbavigr on November 17, 2009, 0:41 GMT

    There are so many ways to compare and contrast the great batsmen of the last two decades. I present one here

    Player Inns Inning # 50s 100s Ave Sachin 78 1 19 19 70.73 Ponting 70 1 17 19 65.33 Lara 58 1 12 12 70.18

    Sachin 79 2 19 19 53.51 Ponting 66 2 14 13 56.78 Lara 72 2 21 13 59.01

    Sachin 59 3 12 7 44.06 Ponting 56 3 13 2 42.26 Lara 56 3 8 7 40.43

    Sachin 46 4 3 3 36.73 Ponting 37 4 4 4 53.79 Lara 46 4 7 2 35.12

    Sachin has lead innings 1 and 3 so far. Ponting has lead innings 2 and 4, but his 4th innings record is amazing! All you great batsmen, all the best for your best cricket before retirement

  • Decentboy999 on November 17, 2009, 0:08 GMT

    @Niel247 Trust me, the majority citizens of India's neighbor have deep respect for this guy, though India has many neighbors , we know exactly what "neighbor" you are talking about. And i would say it again.. We do have respect for Tendulkar.

  • Boonidge on November 16, 2009, 23:52 GMT

    While Australians might be happy to accept a player of Tendulkar's calibre and temperament, I think Virender Sewhag and Brian Lara are players that are more representative of the type of cricket that Australia plays and attempts to play. Sewhag and Lara take more chances than Tendulkar and play the game on their terms. For Australia there is more of an emphasis on scoring quickly and putting the team in the best position to win the game rather than racking up big indivdual scores and milestones.

  • edygriff21 on November 16, 2009, 23:28 GMT

    Just because you play for longer than most and play more games than anyone doesn't make you the best. Take out his minnow bashing and the stats tell the real story. If any of you checked the list for tests you would see that. Here are the FACTS!!!!!

    Batsmen in Tests v top 8 teams Batsman Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s Ricky Ponting 128 10,695 55.12 36/ 44 Brian Lara 127 11,558 52.53 32/ 47 Sachin Tendulkar 145 11,299 51.83 36/ 50

    Lara more runs in 18 less tests, Ponting same amount of centuries in 17 less tests. Ponting ave 3 runs/ inning higher. The stats don't lie. Longevity doesn't make you great and minnow bashing doesn't make you great.

  • edygriff21 on November 16, 2009, 23:12 GMT

    KishoreSharma- i don't know what fantasy land you live in. Richards was amazing to watch against spin. Pontings record against spinners is brilliant except for a few tests in india against Singh. Check his odi record against spinners and its even better. You're basing a career on basically one bad series (2001). Check Tendulkars on fast pitches (Aus and SA) in ODI and its disgracful. Only until last summer did he get his average above mid 20's in Aus (19 years of cricket). Then Check SA records both test and ODI are poor against the second best bowling attack in cricket. Scube- It might have that on his tombstone, but it'll also say winner of 3 world cups (2 undefeated), Ashes 5-0 whitewash, 2 champion trophys, 4-2 against india in 09 with Australia C side. Tendulkars tombstone reads- winner of nothing!!! period. nivi21 - It's not even the best 175. Herchelle Gibbs in SA in the 432 game. Don't ever call him an Australian type player. Aussies win, Tendulkar has no trophys

  • LukeTheDuke on November 16, 2009, 20:23 GMT

    I can not imagine rather than celebrating the 20 years of one of the greatest sportsperson in the world and admiring what he has done for the sports and country there are people who are comparing his stats, his records. I am pretty such losers will never achieve any thing in their life. Sachin Tendulakr is the greatest sportperson India has ever had and these bunch of losers can go hide their head in sand. And for all those Lara the match winner fans list down 5 matches that Lara has won for WI, or 5 tropies that Lara has won and I ll list 50 matches that Sachin has won and Mr. Eranga_Abey what kind of idiot are you?? In a career of 20 years you can only find 3 instances of failure?? looks like your father touched you when you were a kid you jackass son of a bitch.

  • baldeepak82 on November 16, 2009, 20:09 GMT

    No one can comeup to sachin's class & nobody can forget his picture perfect shots.....simply hes the best..any one can score runs...but he will score runs with masterful classy & perfect strokes...i have seen many school boys (even me) imitating sachin in cricket grounds & could play some good shots....just by watching him , anyone can become a good batsman...thats his class....

  • TrueCricFan on November 16, 2009, 19:02 GMT

    "VSGHarihar" has NO CLUE what he has written. It's shame that he doesn't even reconize the contribution by Sachin. He seems to be one of those SICK - Sachin Haters who don't even have the level to comment about him..... Very sad...

  • bibhutiking on November 16, 2009, 18:51 GMT

    hi kishore sharma, how can you compare a gavaskar with sachin. gavaskar in true sense was bigger and grater than even bradman. he had to face the finest of the bowlers ever to touch these 22 yards. 1. west has not produced as strong attack as of those days' famous quartet. 2. In botham, willis and underwood england had if not the best attack of all time then it was better than contemporary 3. liliee and thomson were much better than mcgrath and gillepie 4. Imran Sarfaraz wasim and quadir than any other pakistani attack 5. no richard hadley yet for england 6. gavaskar scored a century of 96 ball against westindies and you still call him defensive. 7 how many support cast were there for gavaskar. In TENDULAR's CASE it is fantastic four

  • bibhutiking on November 16, 2009, 18:03 GMT

    VSG HARIHAR, thanks to someone who can acknowledge LARA's greatness. Whenever it wiil come to quality shotmaking lara will be well above SACHIN. what sachin does against SPINNERS apart from playing Playing those sweeps. Lara brings to the crease whole range of delightful shots.

    I PITY those who didnt see LARA PLAYING TEST MATCHES. I am envious of those westindian and australian who show LARA playing. we still talk about what BRADMAN said about TENDULKAR some 12-13 years ago. BUT WHAT BRADMAN said of LARA, did get any publicity. Bradman had also met LARA but how much publicity did that get,

  • Neil247 on November 16, 2009, 15:46 GMT

    AMAZING! I am sure certain citizens of Indias neighbouring country havent even bother to read the article!! The incredible part is that the even after 20 years only The great Sachin Tendulkar can arouse this kind of both acute jealousy and tidal wave of emotion and passion! Truly, the greatest batsman of all time.

  • KishoreSharma on November 16, 2009, 15:37 GMT

    Sachin is the greatest of the modern day batsmen - and greater than the likes of Gavaskar and Richards - because of his completeness. He has no discernable weakness against any kind of bowling (unlike Ponting and Richrads who were not convincing against top-class spin). He has scored phenominally in both one-dayers and tests, and has exhibited a consistency across these different formats that none of the others have shown - for example, Richards fell away badly in tetss during the last 7 years of his career and Gavasker was not as fluent on ODIs. Finally he can both attack and defend with fluency (unlike Gavaskar who was more on the defensive side). The only area where he has yet to prove himself is in his ability to bat out a full day to save a test - this may be the only flaw I see in him. Otherwise he is by far the most complete and consistent player that I have seen. Others may better than him in one specific aspect of the game but, across the board, none has matched him.

  • nirvanam on November 16, 2009, 14:37 GMT

    Here's a small anecdotal reference to Sachin's greatness. In the confessions of one of the players (I think it was Azza, or Ajay Sharma, or..) as recorded by CBI during the match fixing investigation, he said "No bets were placed or made by any bookie across the world as long as Sachin was batting." Now, you and I are fans, we get swayed by emotions. We don't put money on games. Bookies don't care about emotions, they are in it for the money. Not a single player (and the 90s had greats like Lara, Warne, Jumbo, Wasim, Waqar, Murali, McGrath, etc) commanded that kind of respect from these gangsters. They, more than you and me, know the true value of a player. They put lacs and millions on bets. They are professional gamblers. None of them had the balls to risk anything as long as Sachin was batting. No bets when Sachin is in. Now that, friends, tells more about a player than any stat can. Remember these are professional GAMBLERS. If they think it is a risk to bet against Sachin...hmm.

  • Scube on November 16, 2009, 14:27 GMT

    @V.Gomes, Aussies play to win when it matters the most!?! So, which event the Aussies badly wanted to win in 2009? the Ashes or the Champions trophy? You know deep down what will be written on Ponting's tombstone, don't u!?! The only Aussie in over 100 yrs to lose 2 Ashes in England! :-) The second time against an England team with just one world class player for the entire series, while KP played only two and Flintoff was semifit in the tests he played! I can't wait him to play Ashes 2013 so that he can be the only Aussie ever to lose three Ashes! Ofcourse, he also has the envious record of not being able to defend the largest scores in both test and ODIs and the greatest captain never to win a test in India! Wow, truly an awesome Aussie legend!

  • indianpunter on November 16, 2009, 14:06 GMT

    For giving the likes of us sheer, unadulterated joy for the past 20 yrs, for all those tears of joy (Sharjah 98' among others) and those of intense pain ( Chennai 99) for shining like a beacon amongst mortals, for carrying ( and fulfilling mostly) the hopes of a nation , for reminding us that you are but mortal.. for all those moments, SRT.. thank you. Take a bow, master! p.s. To V.Gomez. This is the way "loser" and " losing" is spelt.

  • Eranga_Abey on November 16, 2009, 13:53 GMT

    When Sri Lanken beat India in semifinals in 1996 world Cup,Sachin couldnt do anything.When Indian was kicked off at very first round by Bangladesh in 2007 World cup Sachin couldnt do anything. When Jayasuriya made 189 in Sajah final Sachin couldnt do anything to stop all out them for 35.That's what I know about him

  • nivi21 on November 16, 2009, 13:13 GMT

    actually,all those ppl who thinks tht lara n ponting r far more gud batsman than tendulkar, are totally wrong...'caz here we r talking abt BATTING...n sachin has scored highest run in tests as well as one day cricket... give me an example of a player who has been so consistant for 20 yrs in making runs...if u say sachin can not play gud under pressure...let me remind u d 4th ODI against australia in last series....dat innnings he played will give all answers to all those who critisized sachin not playing under pressure....give me an example of such innnings of more than 120 runs while chasing a score of 350....

  • arian77 on November 16, 2009, 12:34 GMT

    With due respect to Lara and Ponting, Sachin is the greatest of all after the Don. I dont need to put these words here, neither do any of the others, because words are too less to describe this man. Those who think otherwise, too bad you didnt know this man.

  • VSGHarihar on November 16, 2009, 12:24 GMT

    Forget stats (Sachin's so called strength)..coming to facts..he is no way near Lara …"Even a struggling Lara would be better than a sizzling Sachin"…Lara's ability to raise to the occasion..the way he murdered SA in WC 1996 QF, McGrath & co in 1999 series….his mammoth scorers…his ability to score at will…hey you all should be dreaming.. Moreover 3 of Sachin's 4 double hundreds have come against the 3 weakest teams NZ, Zim & Bangladesh…and his 241 vs Aus was such a boring innings….look at Brian's 226 vs Australia strike rate close to 75, against McGrath, Bret Lee, Shane Warne and with no form… Moreover Lara a true gentle man, he was a walker, Sachin was a bloody hell sticker… Sachin cannot hold a candle to Brian Lara (and of course other true batting greats like Headley, weekes, Sobers, G.Pollock, Viv Richards, Hobbs, Bradman)

  • Sumeet.Gupta on November 16, 2009, 12:14 GMT

    @mahmood_chowdhury. U dont know about pressure mate. I am a part of that generation of youngsters whose rising interest in cricket coincided with the rise and rise of SRT. I remember the times in mid 90's when Sachin's getting out meant switching off the TV. The pressure of performing in front of 1 billion ppl in itself is the greatest pressure. Sachin barely got a good team at his peak(Azhar could be the only exception) especially overseas. Even then he carried on like a soldier. Lara and Ponting are greats in themselves.But you dont have to pull someone down to push someone up...isn't it? He might not be GOD, but he's probably the closest.

  • VSGHarihar on November 16, 2009, 12:14 GMT

    To call Sachin d greatest is an insult to true greats like Sobers & Lara. Sachin has always been taken his position for granted…Forget the genius Lara (best batsman ever)… for me Dravid has been more valuable batsman than Sachin….none of Sachin's knock can hold a candle to Dravid's 148 vs Eng in 2002, 180 vs Aus in 2001 & 233 in 2004.. See, make no mistakes, Sachin has always been in team whether he performed or not…and that's why he is today the most prolific run getter in Intl cricket…For what bloody hell reason was Dravid taken out of ODI series? People speak about his bloody records…even in records he's waste…let me justify Sachin's avg vs Aus in ODI is 48 (it becomes 36 when McGrath was there). Tests 56 (again 36 when McGrath was there) Lara on other hand averaged 42 vs Aus in ODI for WI (when McGrath was there, it went to 48)..in Tests 52 (48 when NcGrath was there)

  • burman on November 16, 2009, 12:12 GMT

    sachin no doubt is one of the finest batsman of modern era. if you are playing international cricket for the last 20 years, it means you have something which makes you legend. mr mahmood first understand the cricket then comment something. every expert or ex great players of this game have puts him above lara & pointig. just go & read stastics to know that how many matches sachin won for india. one more thing, lara was the only true batsman in westindies team at that period but along with sachin iindia have grreats like dravid, ganguly, laxman and sehwagh thats why lara's contribution seems higher.dont minimize the effort of little master.

  • bloody_ausiees on November 16, 2009, 11:33 GMT

    @v.gomes hi dude first i am telling u the truth about yourself that u dont even know the abcd of cricket ... so just shut your mouth.... grt sachin is far better then bradmen so how u compare him with ponting and lara.... bradmen played against 4 countries and at 8 grounds and tendulker played against 10 countries at more then 90 grounds... ansd still going on very well. A batesmen temprament is judge when he played against all the nation in a single tournament like world cup so just check out the record of tendulker and compare with lara and ponting u will defenatily find the difference how tendulker is far more ahead. ponting is defenatily a good batesmen but he is not good against the spin attack check out his record in indian soul and check out the record of tendulker in australia.

  • A.S.K. on November 16, 2009, 11:28 GMT

    You are too easy on him edygriff - how about "the bullshitting two faced spoilt little rich prick at the centre of the "monkeygate" incident".

    I'd rather watch Lara any day - he was far more honest! Despite what Sambit and Peter R will write in Cricindia/Fickleinfo.

  • eddy501 on November 16, 2009, 11:21 GMT

    Please people this an articule about SRT!!! Believe me there is no greater fan of BCL than I but SRT acheivements stand alone as the greatest combined (test &ODI) batsman we have ever seen. BCL hit greater heights in the Test arena (400*,375,277, 153* etc) and closer inspection of their Test stats are very close. If you wanted to pick a player to score you a hundred on any given day Tendulkar will always be the one. For unexpected, unpredictable genius you might get more joy from BCL...eddy - london

  • HarinderJadwani on November 16, 2009, 11:10 GMT

    I start by clarifying that I have been a Sachin fan for the longest time. Nevertheless, I must repeat with a resigned air of fatigue that his 241* at Sydney in 2004 which I witnessed live at the SCG, was a poor innings, even though it got him the man of the match award. Yes earlier poor lbw decisions on the tour and earlier in 1999-2000 had hurt his morale, but still his ultra-cautious approach - never hitting a cover drive or a square cut - on a flat batting pitch against a demoralized Lee and second-rate Aussie attack (McGrath injured and Warne on suspension) denied India an historic opportunity to win a Test series in Australia - something they have never done. India had Australia on the mat - on the last day except Katich all the big guns had been bowled - an additional hour would have given India the series. I blame Sachin for that lost hour. That is also why Dravid declared India's innings in Pakistan with Sachin at 194*... I am sure lots of people will disagree, but there it is.

  • HLANGL on November 16, 2009, 8:50 GMT

    One of the very greatest in the hstory of the game & definitely one of the 3 modern day masters along with Lara & Ponting. The game of Cricket would be so poorer to see you going on a certain day. Having said that, every good thing has to come to an end but the legacy left will remain forever.

  • mahmood_chowdhury on November 16, 2009, 8:37 GMT

    What!!!!!!!!!!! Its really awful to know that people are putting Tendulkar up against Lara. Tendulkar is simply a batsman and a good one who gets chanches after chanches to make some records. Ask Tendulkar to win matches under pressure like Ponting and Lara. Ask Tendulkar to lead the team like Ponting and Lara. I think he will fail in every department except scoring runs. Under pressure how many runs he made? I think its countable. Gavaskar was far more better batsman then Tendulkar who used to face fierced fast bowling without any guard. How many fast bowler(The real fierce one) Tendulkar faced is countable and for how many years? Its a real shocker to know that the person who gets chanches after chanches to make records!!!!!!!!

  • gangasa30 on November 16, 2009, 6:36 GMT

    @V.Gomes "The best test batsmen of all time is Lara (this distinction needs no explanation)" You mean to say Lara won a lot to test matches for west Indies....or just for the sake of opposing SRT you are praising LARA and u dont have the reason to praise him. No doubt LARA and pointing are great batman....but Tendulkar is greatest...just because of the simple reason for most of the years he never got a strong team mates.....and yet he took the burden of billions of hope and carried himself in style. How can u forget back2back 100s in sharjah against Aussies...or 2008 commonwealth series down under and a lot more....Can u single out one inning of poniting in ODI where he single handedly own the match for australia I doubt. Ponting or LARA is no match for SRT at least in ODI thats for sure. If SRT would have been in Australian team he could have played freely and who knows he could have accumulated 30,000 ODI runs and 20,000 Test runs till date at least. Go check ur stat dude.

  • saiswaroop on November 16, 2009, 2:47 GMT

    SACHIN you are just Awesome.... .........

  • squidhead on November 16, 2009, 2:25 GMT

    It's think it's fair to say that most Aussies, at least the ones I know of, are happy to say that Tendulkar is without doubt the best bat going round and has been for some time. I'm not sure that makes him one of us though, and single-mindedness is hardly a virtue to which we can lay exclusive claim. There's a kind of Roebuckiness about this article which isn't necessarily a good thing. Can we not just enjoy watching the man at work without all the silliness? (If we're lucky, apparently, he might go on to 2015 by which time his stats will be so good the numbers probably won't make sense any more. 40K int'l runs? 600 ODIs? When WILL he be satisfied?)

  • insightfulcricketer on November 15, 2009, 22:47 GMT

    On Sachin I can only tell this anecdote. "An avid cricket fan went into coma twenty years ago. When he awoke from his coma in Hyderabad he woke up to people carrying Ipods which were powerful than the biggest computers in his time. India was out of Foreign Exchange rut but is buying Gold to bailout the IMF. World is rocked by by the vicious kind of terrosim not seen before.An African American is a US President. World had changed totally for him. But being an avid cricket fan asked the excited nurse about the game tonight. She said India is in a tight corner fighting for win ,entire top order is gone but as always there is still chance if this guy is around. Excitedly the guy asked who the batsman is . She said Sachin Tendulkar and I am told the whole staff ran back to revive him again. Everything changed but something never changed . That is Sachin for you. The patient was last heard yelling the whole 20 years is nothing but an elaborate joke on him." Ok I have the patent on this

  • andrew-schulz on November 15, 2009, 21:57 GMT

    Bringing up Harper's lbw decision against Tendulkar in Adelaide is beyond belief. It is not that umpires concentrate harder, and according to Ryan, therefore give Tendulkar some rough decisions. It is that when he cops a close decision, it is overanalyzed to a ridiculous extent. That particular ball hit Tendulkar on the shoulder, but was still clearly out. Do people not know the rules? None other than Sunil Gavaskar in commentary at the time said it was 10 centimetres below the height of the top of the stumps. Look at it from side on and you see that it is clearly not going over the top. I have seen 1000 decisions since given out to balls travelling higher without the slightest adverse comment. As for the correspondent who still wants to criticize Australians for aggressive behaviour on that last day in Sydney, and particularly Hayden: he wasn't even on the field. Kind of dints your credibility a bit.

  • bibhutiking on November 15, 2009, 19:27 GMT

    Hey I just said if Sachin is great, applaud his efforts,why are u minimizing the efforts of somebody else and when somebody is LARA who scored a mammoth 19% of the total runs scored by the whole westindian team. Only bradman's contribution is higher.And when it comes t figghting a lone battle NOBODY is NEAR LARA not even Bradman. apart from that lara was a big entertainer as well. he did never look as boring as Sachin during that double in Sydney 2003-04 or during multan the same season. You dont become a true INDIAN just because you are putting sachin above the rest. APPLAUD SACHIN IN HEALTHIER MANNER.

  • BoomBoomAdnan on November 15, 2009, 18:55 GMT

    BRIAN CHARLES LARA greatest batsman of this century.

  • nee_92 on November 15, 2009, 18:44 GMT

    ever since the article on test cricket iv been in love with yor writing...n this article is just another example of why!...its hard to find sports articles that are poetic n romantic without them being over the top n contrived....ur love for the game and its characters shows through!..thank you:)

  • SunilPotnis on November 15, 2009, 17:37 GMT

    Agreed, Sachin has more runs/centuries/records to his name but one thing he misses out on very vividly, is his ability to turn matches on a dime. Sir Richards, Botham, Kapil Dev or Imran had that unique skill to single handedly do it. If the the opposition was to be mentally destroyed and run away with the match, there is only one cricketer who has done it very consistentlyand that is not Tendulkar. It is the one and only one, Sir Issac Vivian Alexander Richards. He may not have had the best of the technique but his reflexes, eye sight, ability to pick up the line and length early and above all dominate and turn the match, is unparalleled even today. No one can come close. Sachin may have turned around matches but they are handful considering the total he has played. To me, Sir Richards is sublime match winner.

  • HOTCHA on November 15, 2009, 17:26 GMT

    A lovely piece. Some would argue, but for me SRT would be the batsman of the century. 20 years in the international arena, and still batting like a champion. I salute you, Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.

  • sanjeevmukherjee2006 on November 15, 2009, 16:49 GMT

    @v.gomes can you spell the word cricket, i bet you can't, u are saying sachin is the biggest looser of all times..you must be some alien...read the comments of pontings, akram, murali for sachin. look at his stats..he has scored all over the world...cricket is a team game..ponting won 2 world cups because they had all greats playing at the same time....hayden, langer, gilchrist, martyn, gillespie, mcgrath,warne....sachin for most part of teh career was the lone warrior...why no other team other than australia are world beaters,(south africa is close but they have some catching up to do), it is because of their bench strength...look at the last series even after missing so many players they beat india, won champions trophy beat england...get ur facts right mr v.gomes and do surf the net to get more knowledge, you want sachin should be the only batter along with yuvraj and sehwag and 4 bowlers and dhoni..i doubt your wisdom

  • knaisha1 on November 15, 2009, 15:53 GMT

    Tendulkar is better than any Australian batsman except Don Bradman, as his statistics amply prove. Why do Australians claim anything good in sport as something of their own? On the contrary, many Australian cricketers are the worst role models for cricketers around the world, as exemplified by their colonial attitudes and their callous disregard to local spectatorrs and local customs abroad (in India). Tendulakar has nothing to do with Australians or their spirit. He is a fierce competitor but also a sportsman with such dignified behavior as is worthy of emulation by anyone, especially the Australians. Tendulkar is an Indian treasure very much like Gandhi, Lata Mangeshkar etc. There is nothing Australioan in any of them, and Indians are grateful for that!

  • Vansan on November 15, 2009, 15:45 GMT

    (continuation) Sachin fans dont envy ponting being best captain and 3 times world cup champion, indeed he led an injury struck team to champions trophy and outplayed india with his smart captaincy, Aussies dont envy sachin bcos he is the highest run getter in the world till now. Sachin is one of the best batsman in the cricketing history.. This is the truth, he stands with the best cricketers in cricketing history with the likes of Richards, Lara, Gavaskar, Jack Hobbs, Bradman, Woolley, Headley, Garfield Sobers, Warne, Marshall, Waugh, inthis elite panel. simple. I wish INDIA sould think beyond sachin as because it isnt healthy for the team when everyone backs just one person does it for INDIA. OK FOLKS. Catch u in INDIA vs SL starting tomorrow. Till then Bye

  • Vansan on November 15, 2009, 15:30 GMT

    Guys, Whats this rubbish here, in contemporary cricket, sachin is the best batsman, he will be replaced by any other in the future too. TO all sachin fans, all knew Lara said Sachin is better than him, Will Sachin say so? If sachin will say, there will be a lot of speculation will be or he envies lara, simple. Go and check win/loss stats between lara and sachin in ODIs, (excluding minnows), it round about the same, Sachin holds record for most odi and test runs, lara holds record for highest individual score and 9 double hundreds, murali holds record for highest test wickets, ponting, gilly and pigeon holds record for hatrick world champions, bevan is so far the best finisher in ODIs. All above hare proved they are genius in various fields, nobody is god here, i can appreciate sachin for his 20yr international cricket services for india. IF Ponting breaks Sachin's record, will that lead to catastrophe.. (to be contd)

  • INIDIAN on November 15, 2009, 14:51 GMT

    hey guys who criticize him,if u cannot appld his achievements at least don't make shameful and idiotic comments.if u cannot applaud and accept ur country men's achievement then how it seems u r worthy human being.u dont even hesitate to sell our country to others.try to achieve some thing stop making rash comments.u all r shameful idiot who even will even criticize ur parents worth.even lara had told sach is far better then him, even viv richards had registered a comment that sach is better than lara. even warne had told that. warne,mcgrath all had bowled to his ricky but they did not feel him as the best k.cric is a team effort.aus play as a team and they have good team players who can finish match and some one who can win matches than ricky. India was depending on sach for long time,there was match fixingin our team, etc so on inspite he stood the best in the world.this is because u such peoples dont support India & Indians, stop talking atleast love ur country,THE INDIA

  • bibhutiking on November 15, 2009, 14:20 GMT

    hey deathraider, praise tendulkar but not on the cost of the man called BRIAN CHARLES LARA. you said forget LARA. How can a cricket buff. Would sachin ever paly an inning of the stature of 153 lara played against McGRATH, Gillespie, Warne and McGill. Tendulkar never played against as good australian attck ever. I am confident he would never be able to do so. Can you compare any of SACHIN DOUBLE HUNDRED to that OF LARA's ONE.

    Praising SACHIN is one thing but why at the costs of other genius.

  • Elvis on November 15, 2009, 13:38 GMT

    @GOMES : I agree with you that Cricket is team game. But I am sure you are contradicting when you called Sachin as biggest loser. Matches are won or lost on team efforts. I wonder how the statistcs would have been for Ponting if Ponting was playing in other teams and facing Australian Bowlers. You better redrew your comparisions by character, attitude and innovativeness one bought into the game and entertaining fans. Ponting's luck was being part of Australian Team. Help me out to predict/estimate the stats if Sachin and Ponting were swaped of teams. :)

  • Devz greatS on November 15, 2009, 11:47 GMT

    @ V.GOMES Maybe you should stop watching cricket. SRT is the biggest cricket icon, greatest player, no 1 batsman of all time. You are just afraid to accept that.

  • DeathRaider on November 15, 2009, 11:35 GMT

    The man is the most sought after man in India..Discussions in offices cafetarias,school buses,restaurants etc are always on him.."why did he play that shot" ..."he shud have played that wid a straight bat".."he shud have been there till the end..shud have scored that 19 odd runs" .that too..discussed by mortals like u and me...who haven't even achieve 0.1% of wat he has done in the past 20 years..He is the "ONLY" player to have such a fan following.4get the Pontings & Laras & Dravids..I remember ppl used to switch off their TV's in the 90's when he got out !! I still do that..coz of the charisma of the man..the respect he commands..It's not a place to come out wid stupid stats and cry abt that he isn't gr8 coz he dint win a WC etc (like this V.Gomes is doing on every article on CI).Pay the man rich tribute.for wat he has done !!! Salutations to u Master! P.S.:All tendulkar bashers..if u hate him so much.then plz do not read articles on him.nd plz do not come wid meaningless comparisons

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on November 15, 2009, 11:31 GMT

    bradman never called srt the best - he said he reminded him of himself. waugh and mcgrath didn't have to bowl against ponting. geoff boycott rates lara higher than tendulkar. Lara as captain raised his batting to a higher level and pulled off some impossible victories singlehandedly against the strongest team in the world. SRT as captain saw his batting suffer. So who handles pressure situations better and is psychologically stronger?

    we can all have a debate about who is the greatest player without insulting people who don't happen to share our own opinion. as an indian who enjoys watching srt bat, i get embarassed by the blind chauvinism and unreasonable invective with which srt is championed. to me there are great players in every country and they should all be celebrated - mohammed yousuff is also a great player who has a better average and better ratio of hundreds per test.

  • sharanyan.ps on November 15, 2009, 11:21 GMT

    Awe..Mr. V Jones is hurt. Your articles makes me laugh. Ponting with all due respect is a great great player. But do you know that there is a difference between a player and a captain? Plus i figure ur one cocky austrailian friend who doesnt understand the greatness of sachin. Its shocking and appalling. your comments are so naive because not one player has complained about Sachin. Bradman played in 12 grounds and 57 matches. He was very familiar withthe conditions. Sachin played in over 75 grounds and has an excellent record in most. I would say Sachin and Bradman are unquestionably the best and in my opinion, the longevity, and the expectations that Sachin carries pushes him a little ahead of Sir Don himself. Noone else deserves to be even in the league as these two. Mr V Jones, stop being so naive and cocky and grow up. Australia is awesome, but Sachin is God.

  • lucky_luke on November 15, 2009, 11:19 GMT

    it is extremely funny when someone blames Sachin for lost matches and praises Lara at the same time. Lara has 8 centuries in matches won, scored 2.9k runs and averages 61 with the highest being 213. Sachin has scored 4.4k runs at an average of 65 with 16 centuries. I would not call it a 'loOser' performance. And did Sachin ever had bowlers half as good as Walsh / Ambrose / Bishop? I can understand when you say "this distinction needs no explanation" because you can never explain it ;-) About Ponting fielding at Silly point, so does Gambhir. So are they equals?

  • FallsDown on November 15, 2009, 11:16 GMT

    good article. as usual, no dearth of stupid comments in response. tendulkar is a great cricketer, let's leave it at that. ranking and comparisons (is he better than lara? ponting?) is for nerds with too much time on their hands. they're all great and some may prefer watching one more than the others.

    chalachala, you badly need to get a life. christian was trying to pay a compliment...when you like someone so much, you want to claim him/her as one of your own...that's what he's doing here.

  • FallsDown on November 15, 2009, 11:15 GMT

    good article. as usual, no dearth of stupid comments in response. tendulkar is a great cricketer, let's leave it at that. ranking and comparisons (is he better than lara? ponting?) is for nerds with too much time on their hands. they're all great and some may prefer watching one more than the others.

    chalachala, you badly need to get a life. christian was trying to pay a compliment...when you like someone so much, you want to claim him/her as one of your own...that's what he's doing here.

  • bingorighton on November 15, 2009, 10:57 GMT

    i think its insult trying to put a "australian" with tendulkar. SRT is a symbol of india , a true reflection of india. and VGOMES you contradict your own statements. cricket is a team game of 11 players. india win or losses you cant judge performance of individual by that stat. 175 he scored and india lost. so you meant we should not praise that 175 ? most of his career SRT has done the job of not 1 but 5 player count.

  • rohan024 on November 15, 2009, 10:28 GMT

    Lara called him the real genius of the two, Waugh called him the greatest after bradman, Warne listed him at no: 1 in his list of top 50 players and McGrath rate him as the number 1 of his generation. Do we really need any other suggestions to decide whos the greatest batsman of our generation. Its SRT - Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. Vgomes - time for you to evolve.

  • rohan024 on November 15, 2009, 10:24 GMT

    Whom do you go to if you have to make a decision on buying a car ? An auto expert. Whom do you go to if you are sick ? A doctor. Whom do you go to for advice on career ? Your seniors or people who are successful in that area. Similarly, if we you are to choose whos the best batsman then you don't go to VGomes and edygriff21 for inputs. You go to Waughs, Laras, Borders, Bradman (till he was there), Richards, Warnes and Akrams to understand who they think is the best. And they all say in unison - TENDULKAR. Thats wat matters and not some jealous subcontinents fans of Slanka & Pakistan.

  • V.GOMES on November 15, 2009, 9:29 GMT

    I think the heading is an insult to Australians, becaus when it comes to cricket, the Australians play to win and win when it counts the most. Like world cups etc. The article by Ryan was good, but the comments (from Sachin fans) are over the top as usual. Whether we like it or not cricket is a team game where the most important stat is wins/loss. By glorifying a man who has lost more games than any cricketer in the history of the sport, means you are glorifying the art of loosing. The best ODI batsman of all time should be Ponting (for all he has achieved with good and not so good teams eg: 2009 champions trophy). The best test batsmen of all time is Lara (this distinction needs no explanation) Runs can be accumulated, especially if Sachin insist on being an opener batting through power-plays. So don't judge players based on runs & awards. Did you see Ponting field at silly point during this last ODI series,.. you would never see Sachin do that.

  • DesiPathan on November 15, 2009, 8:45 GMT

    Good article but it reminds me of the quote "success has many fathers ......" .If you ask an englishman about sachin I'm sure he'll say sachin reminds him of Wayne Rooney. We would have celebrated the 20th anniversary of 2 great individual today instead of 1 if the hyenas of the 90's had just honest and true to the sport. I'm talking about Vinod Kambli. A man who scored 2 double centuries on debut now makes a living as a reality show artist. But the good thing about him being in the public eye all the time is a constant reminder to Indians of their SINS.

  • rustin on November 15, 2009, 8:42 GMT

    His style is definitely not Australian. There are bound to be similarities in players across the world if you choose to focus only on certain characteristics. For one - sledging fires him up and of course a few others you mentioned. There are numerous features of him as an sportsman which are so Indian that you wouldnt understand if you weren't Indian. So please don't just jump to conclusions and call him an Australian hero. @edygriff21-maybe learning a few extremely common swear words in Hindi will change your opinion.

  • lucky_luke on November 15, 2009, 7:39 GMT

    "Odd how a cricketer so Australian as Tendulkar could provoke such un-Australian sentimentality" :) Nice

    And I dont understand what V.Gomes was trying to say. If he thinks Sachin played with good team mates for most of his career, then shouldnt they have won the matches if not Sachin. That would not make Sachin the 'greatest loOserin cricket' right? And Ponting best ODI batsman? why? Seems he does not play with good teammates according to you.

  • popcorn on November 15, 2009, 7:34 GMT

    Wonderful article, christian Ryan. Disregard inferiririty complexed comments from guys like Katlpalli. Aussies admire a good cricketer - whichever nationality - I remember hoe Bill Lawry spoke of fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar.

  • tRIvIaL on November 15, 2009, 7:26 GMT

    excellent article mate. I can't but help rememberthe Melbourne test match on the 03-04 tour...i was sitting behind a couple of aussie blokes, gulping down a few beers under the scorching Vic sun. It was a pleasure over hearing their conversation on their favourite sachin moment. The second greatest player ever in the history of the game. It'll be a day of universal mourning for the cricket loving communiity the day this maestro hangs up the boots.

  • AndrewWI on November 15, 2009, 6:47 GMT

    Wonderful article. Eddy probably has a touch of the sun.

  • Chalachala on November 15, 2009, 6:21 GMT

    hey what is all this ha........ if anything is good, it is australian style. how come that.... Sachin is the Indian Style of the Modern day cricket. The solidarity and skill of Indian Style. Dnt ever say he is in australian style. He never sledge, not even have problems with a bowler who bowls a bouncer to him. The opposite is the australian style. Apart from the topic the contents spot on. But still christain watever good is not australian. SO many things have been invented by other countries which are not australian. Sachin is a real master who is real gentleman in the field. (I cant say none of teh australians have that quality pal)

  • obstreperous on November 15, 2009, 6:01 GMT

    Tendulkar an Australian sort of hero? Come again? The oft-repeated Bradman comparison aside, it's a silly idea and this is a silly article.

  • katpalli on November 15, 2009, 5:47 GMT

    Nice article christian.thanks. As far as comment by edygriff21,it is highly debatable that Sachin lied in that incident in Sydney but certainly exposed that Australians are cheats led by ponting,clarke,hyden ,symonds and the so called gentleman gilchirst.

  • Anon_gish on November 15, 2009, 5:33 GMT

    @eddy - you are just being petty: Most of the Indians have moved on from that series when Ponting & Co. used every dirty trick from their own personal team diary handed down the generations (I believe the very first entry is the famous underarm incident involving one of your "best" captains) - sledging, claiming dropped catches, etc... It is over now, get over it

  • mach23 on November 15, 2009, 5:25 GMT

    Sachin is a True legend.. Dont compare with Aussies.

  • V.GOMES on November 15, 2009, 5:00 GMT

    Sachin is truely the best and greatest looserin cricket, all time. Greatest - beacuse he has lost more games that ANY cricketer. Best - because it was a pleasure watching him during these losses. He took the art of loosing to a new level. Not to mention that he has always had good team mates like Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble,.etc. 2 decades worth of players who according to indian media are either Gods, worriers or kinds :-) The best ODI batsman of all time should be Ponting (for all he has achieved with good and not so good teams eg: 2009 champions trophy). The best test batsmen of all time is Lara (this distinction needs no explanation) Runs can be accumulated, especially if you are an opener batting through power-plays. So don't judge batsmen on runs & awards. Did you see Ponting field at silly-point during the past ODI series in India,.. you will never see Sachin do that becuase his main objecting is not to do whats necessary to win, but to stay fit to score runs.

  • edygriff21 on November 15, 2009, 4:52 GMT

    Admiration and affection- maybe 5 years ago. Now alot of Aussies will just remember him as a liar from the "monkeygate" incident.

  • LoveGodofCricket on November 15, 2009, 3:29 GMT

    Thanks Christian... Sachin is Great, a True role model on and off the cricket field. He is truly most loved cricketer in the world...past and present...

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  • LoveGodofCricket on November 15, 2009, 3:29 GMT

    Thanks Christian... Sachin is Great, a True role model on and off the cricket field. He is truly most loved cricketer in the world...past and present...

  • edygriff21 on November 15, 2009, 4:52 GMT

    Admiration and affection- maybe 5 years ago. Now alot of Aussies will just remember him as a liar from the "monkeygate" incident.

  • V.GOMES on November 15, 2009, 5:00 GMT

    Sachin is truely the best and greatest looserin cricket, all time. Greatest - beacuse he has lost more games that ANY cricketer. Best - because it was a pleasure watching him during these losses. He took the art of loosing to a new level. Not to mention that he has always had good team mates like Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble,.etc. 2 decades worth of players who according to indian media are either Gods, worriers or kinds :-) The best ODI batsman of all time should be Ponting (for all he has achieved with good and not so good teams eg: 2009 champions trophy). The best test batsmen of all time is Lara (this distinction needs no explanation) Runs can be accumulated, especially if you are an opener batting through power-plays. So don't judge batsmen on runs & awards. Did you see Ponting field at silly-point during the past ODI series in India,.. you will never see Sachin do that becuase his main objecting is not to do whats necessary to win, but to stay fit to score runs.

  • mach23 on November 15, 2009, 5:25 GMT

    Sachin is a True legend.. Dont compare with Aussies.

  • Anon_gish on November 15, 2009, 5:33 GMT

    @eddy - you are just being petty: Most of the Indians have moved on from that series when Ponting & Co. used every dirty trick from their own personal team diary handed down the generations (I believe the very first entry is the famous underarm incident involving one of your "best" captains) - sledging, claiming dropped catches, etc... It is over now, get over it

  • katpalli on November 15, 2009, 5:47 GMT

    Nice article christian.thanks. As far as comment by edygriff21,it is highly debatable that Sachin lied in that incident in Sydney but certainly exposed that Australians are cheats led by ponting,clarke,hyden ,symonds and the so called gentleman gilchirst.

  • obstreperous on November 15, 2009, 6:01 GMT

    Tendulkar an Australian sort of hero? Come again? The oft-repeated Bradman comparison aside, it's a silly idea and this is a silly article.

  • Chalachala on November 15, 2009, 6:21 GMT

    hey what is all this ha........ if anything is good, it is australian style. how come that.... Sachin is the Indian Style of the Modern day cricket. The solidarity and skill of Indian Style. Dnt ever say he is in australian style. He never sledge, not even have problems with a bowler who bowls a bouncer to him. The opposite is the australian style. Apart from the topic the contents spot on. But still christain watever good is not australian. SO many things have been invented by other countries which are not australian. Sachin is a real master who is real gentleman in the field. (I cant say none of teh australians have that quality pal)

  • AndrewWI on November 15, 2009, 6:47 GMT

    Wonderful article. Eddy probably has a touch of the sun.

  • tRIvIaL on November 15, 2009, 7:26 GMT

    excellent article mate. I can't but help rememberthe Melbourne test match on the 03-04 tour...i was sitting behind a couple of aussie blokes, gulping down a few beers under the scorching Vic sun. It was a pleasure over hearing their conversation on their favourite sachin moment. The second greatest player ever in the history of the game. It'll be a day of universal mourning for the cricket loving communiity the day this maestro hangs up the boots.