Sri Lanka tri-series 2010 August 25, 2010

Play Dinesh Karthik in the middle order

India should stop using Dinesh Karthik as back-up for multiple purposes and give him a run in his natural role - that of a middle order batsman
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Ever since the explosive MS Dhoni became India's first-choice wicketkeeper, Dinesh Karthik has evolved into India's all-purpose back-up man. Virender Sehwag out of form three years ago? Bring in Karthik as opener for tough series in South Africa and England. Concerns over Dhoni's fitness ahead of any series? Bring in Karthik as the reserve wicketkeeper. Any batsman indisposed for one-dayers? Bring in Karthik to plug the gap.

In the first 21 innings of his one-day career, Karthik played in every position from opener to No. 7. For his state side, Tamil Nadu, he has long been a successful middle-order batsman. After four failures at the top in Dambulla, perhaps the time has come for Karthik to insist on being picked for his natural role, competing with the likes of Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli for a middle-order spot. If there is a need for an opening batsman, India should groom a specialist back-up, someone like M Vijay.

Dhoni has spoken of the pressures on Rohit, since he is never sure of being in the side. The argument is more apt for Karthik: in the six years since his debut, Karthik has never been a part of the team for more than 12 matches at a stretch. His current six-game run as opener, after flying in as Sehwag's replacement during the Asia Cup, equals his longest spell at a fixed batting slot.

The present, relatively long stint with the national squad is on the back of a Man-of-the-Match performance in the Asia Cup final. But playing him out of position at the top of the order is doing neither him nor the team any good. His confidence is taking a beating and the team isn't getting off to solid starts.

Two poor umpiring decisions haven't helped Karthik either - he was given out lbw in the opening match against New Zealand and caught behind against Sri Lanka on Sunday. Both dismissals sparked dire batting collapses that left India facing a must-win encounter against New Zealand.

When the big boys - Sachin Tendulkar and Gautam Gambhir - return to the top order, Karthik may or may not retain his spot in the squad as a reserve wicketkeeper. But before discarding him again, Karthik deserves to be given a decent run in the middle order to see whether he has what it takes. His career numbers match those of other contenders like Rohit, who at least had the opportunity of a one-year unbroken run in the middle order before being dropped.

Karthik's blend-in-any-role versatility has so far helped him remain on the international scene despite being usurped as the country's No. 1 wicketkeeper. He's still only a fringe player, though, and for him to become a more integral part of the side, he should look at making a niche in the batting position he is most comfortable with. The competition might be tight for that slot, but much of the competition hasn't distinguished itself in the international arena yet.

Siddarth Ravindran is a sub-editor at Cricinfo

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  • on August 26, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    Try other Players!!!!!!!!11

  • on August 26, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    Kohli made his debut as a opener, why hasn't he been tried again or may be Jadeja can be tried as well.

  • kavadikiran on August 26, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    Dear Mr. Srikanth. Looking at the present ODI side & their performance, i bet this team cant perform well in hard conditions & tough opponents. Its high time to think positive & make some strong decisions as the WC2011 is nearing. During the conditioning camp for Australian Series select a side of 25 keeping WC in mind. Let the side train hard in NCA on fittness. Equal opportuinities can be provided for all players in the tournments coming up The side probably should be like this Openers - Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambir Middle Order - Rahul Dravid, Yuvraj singh, Suresh Raina, Cheteshwar Pujara Late Middle Order - Robin Utthappa,Yousuf pathan, Manish Pandey Wicket Keeper - MS Dhoni All rounders - R.Ashwin, Irfan Pathan Spinners - Harbhajan Singh, Murli Kartik, Pragyan Ohja, Amit Mishra Seemers - Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Praveen Kumar, Abhimanyu Mithun, Munaf Patel, Ishanth Sharma

  • SathyamoorthyNagarajan on August 26, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Its glad to see the Indian team making to the finals of srilanka tri series quite comfortably at the same time it is disheartening to see that except viru none of the Indian batsmen were able to bat with poise and composure. Yuvraj singh is a greater striker of the ball and most of the time he comes in the team is under pressure and so he is, for a change yuvraj can be asked to open the innings along with sehwag, given his potential to rip apart the fast bowlers.Not to forget most of the team open their bowling attack only with fast bowlers. Lets hope for a change in the Indian batting order...............

  • on August 26, 2010, 13:40 GMT

    the need of trying out rohit for more tym now is he is a batsmen who is capable of turning matches into india's favor .... he deserves a place in indian team coz of this ... take example of sehwag ... during his early days for the indian team he was not that effective batsmen .... but now he is one of d most important member of the squad after the likes of sachin ! the important thing for him now is to work his disability's into his abilities & prove his talent once again... trying out virat kohli also is a good option .... there's no one lyk in d team who dont deserve to be in ... all deserve it ...but getting in saurabh tiwary , pathan bro's & robin uthappa is a real valid option ... if there r constant failures in d current squad ....

  • Hotyogi on August 26, 2010, 13:38 GMT

    So India will find a way to win in the finals using some incredible individual performance (Sehwag / Dhoni with the bat or Praveen with the ball) and then all will be forgotten. Do the selectors have the kahones to do the right thing. Drop Jadeja, Karthik, Yuvraj (okay i said it) and bring in deserving youngsters like Mithun, Dhawan, Pujara and stick it out with Kohli and Raina. This is the backbone of our team for the next 2-5 years, its time for them to get their breaks NOW. ....I would say on overall form we are the third best team in the subcontinent...This indian team is NOT going to win the world cup so lets not kid ourselves....but India WILL WIN and the partying will continue until the next debacle....sheesh...i wish India played another sport well for me to support...

  • haisreekanthnk on August 26, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    My team for wc11 1)sachin2)sewag3)gambir4)raina5)yuvi/kohli6)dhoni7)jadeja8)harbhajan9)pk10)zak11)nehra12)yuvi/kohli13)kartik14)ishant/munaf15)oja. Then every body is criticisin kartik and jadeja. Especially jadu . That is not understandable cos he is very economical bowler in odis and also bat when needed and is a brilliant fielder . Then kartik is naturally a middleorder batsmen . Hecan be backup for wk also so he will remain in 15 member squad . He has been doin verywell in middle order for delhi. Jadeja inclusion in t20 not acceptible but defenitely he will be there in odis .

  • wolf777 on August 26, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Karthik has a problem playing when the ball starts moving. Sending him in the middle order is not going to solve that problem. He has been given too many chances to prove himself and has never performed on a consistent basis that is why he finds himself being dropped. He has now played fair bit of international cricket to be a known quantity on the circuit. He has been found out and more often than not international teams would exploit his weakness no matter where he plays. It would be much better to invest in all rounders like Pathan brothers in the middle order than someone like Dinesh Karthik who has limited other usefulness

  • on August 26, 2010, 13:15 GMT

    hey dont forget abinav mukundh ..he s best choice ..see his domestic records

  • keshtopatel on August 26, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    Dravid for one dayers! A big no....The guy is aged, hardly makes 25 to 30 runs, that also picking and choosing every ball....He has a dismal striking rate....In one day you eed hard hitters who score fast a la virendra Sehwag......you can not win the world cup with slow run rate. Period.

    So on above account, Dravid should not be touched even with barg pole - He is a wall, let him remain a wall and stay.

  • on August 26, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    Try other Players!!!!!!!!11

  • on August 26, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    Kohli made his debut as a opener, why hasn't he been tried again or may be Jadeja can be tried as well.

  • kavadikiran on August 26, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    Dear Mr. Srikanth. Looking at the present ODI side & their performance, i bet this team cant perform well in hard conditions & tough opponents. Its high time to think positive & make some strong decisions as the WC2011 is nearing. During the conditioning camp for Australian Series select a side of 25 keeping WC in mind. Let the side train hard in NCA on fittness. Equal opportuinities can be provided for all players in the tournments coming up The side probably should be like this Openers - Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambir Middle Order - Rahul Dravid, Yuvraj singh, Suresh Raina, Cheteshwar Pujara Late Middle Order - Robin Utthappa,Yousuf pathan, Manish Pandey Wicket Keeper - MS Dhoni All rounders - R.Ashwin, Irfan Pathan Spinners - Harbhajan Singh, Murli Kartik, Pragyan Ohja, Amit Mishra Seemers - Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Praveen Kumar, Abhimanyu Mithun, Munaf Patel, Ishanth Sharma

  • SathyamoorthyNagarajan on August 26, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Its glad to see the Indian team making to the finals of srilanka tri series quite comfortably at the same time it is disheartening to see that except viru none of the Indian batsmen were able to bat with poise and composure. Yuvraj singh is a greater striker of the ball and most of the time he comes in the team is under pressure and so he is, for a change yuvraj can be asked to open the innings along with sehwag, given his potential to rip apart the fast bowlers.Not to forget most of the team open their bowling attack only with fast bowlers. Lets hope for a change in the Indian batting order...............

  • on August 26, 2010, 13:40 GMT

    the need of trying out rohit for more tym now is he is a batsmen who is capable of turning matches into india's favor .... he deserves a place in indian team coz of this ... take example of sehwag ... during his early days for the indian team he was not that effective batsmen .... but now he is one of d most important member of the squad after the likes of sachin ! the important thing for him now is to work his disability's into his abilities & prove his talent once again... trying out virat kohli also is a good option .... there's no one lyk in d team who dont deserve to be in ... all deserve it ...but getting in saurabh tiwary , pathan bro's & robin uthappa is a real valid option ... if there r constant failures in d current squad ....

  • Hotyogi on August 26, 2010, 13:38 GMT

    So India will find a way to win in the finals using some incredible individual performance (Sehwag / Dhoni with the bat or Praveen with the ball) and then all will be forgotten. Do the selectors have the kahones to do the right thing. Drop Jadeja, Karthik, Yuvraj (okay i said it) and bring in deserving youngsters like Mithun, Dhawan, Pujara and stick it out with Kohli and Raina. This is the backbone of our team for the next 2-5 years, its time for them to get their breaks NOW. ....I would say on overall form we are the third best team in the subcontinent...This indian team is NOT going to win the world cup so lets not kid ourselves....but India WILL WIN and the partying will continue until the next debacle....sheesh...i wish India played another sport well for me to support...

  • haisreekanthnk on August 26, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    My team for wc11 1)sachin2)sewag3)gambir4)raina5)yuvi/kohli6)dhoni7)jadeja8)harbhajan9)pk10)zak11)nehra12)yuvi/kohli13)kartik14)ishant/munaf15)oja. Then every body is criticisin kartik and jadeja. Especially jadu . That is not understandable cos he is very economical bowler in odis and also bat when needed and is a brilliant fielder . Then kartik is naturally a middleorder batsmen . Hecan be backup for wk also so he will remain in 15 member squad . He has been doin verywell in middle order for delhi. Jadeja inclusion in t20 not acceptible but defenitely he will be there in odis .

  • wolf777 on August 26, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Karthik has a problem playing when the ball starts moving. Sending him in the middle order is not going to solve that problem. He has been given too many chances to prove himself and has never performed on a consistent basis that is why he finds himself being dropped. He has now played fair bit of international cricket to be a known quantity on the circuit. He has been found out and more often than not international teams would exploit his weakness no matter where he plays. It would be much better to invest in all rounders like Pathan brothers in the middle order than someone like Dinesh Karthik who has limited other usefulness

  • on August 26, 2010, 13:15 GMT

    hey dont forget abinav mukundh ..he s best choice ..see his domestic records

  • keshtopatel on August 26, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    Dravid for one dayers! A big no....The guy is aged, hardly makes 25 to 30 runs, that also picking and choosing every ball....He has a dismal striking rate....In one day you eed hard hitters who score fast a la virendra Sehwag......you can not win the world cup with slow run rate. Period.

    So on above account, Dravid should not be touched even with barg pole - He is a wall, let him remain a wall and stay.

  • on August 26, 2010, 12:52 GMT

    Hello all, needless to say that the current period is very crucial regarding how things shape up in world cup 11'. I completely agree with balanced comments of venkat. Too much chances have been given to dk, jadeja,murali vijay. Jadeja is clearly a substandard player & it would be totally fooling oneself to consider him as an allrounder, better go for a specialist 5th bowler if dhoni wants to field 5 bowlers n ignore irfan pathan for unknown reasons. Lower order batsman and new comers need to work on their techniques, susceptible to short pitched stuff. Some new faces have to be roped in place of failures like jadeja,sharma, and kartik.I wonder we don't have any fresh face to claim for allrounder or pacer slot. Even we lack any quality spinner, pragyan ojha, amit mishra give ordinary impression with their abilities.After Ishant we haven't find any serious contender in fast bowling.Guess IPL has given the youngsters more than that they deserve very swiftly...hunger is dying 4 youngster

  • harohalli on August 26, 2010, 12:39 GMT

    Its time Karthik puts up his hand and say that if he is consideed it should be for a middle order spot just like VVS did when he was forced to open and could not get runs in test matches. look at him since then. Are we so poor on talent that we cannot get a opener if one of them - Viru or gambhir is injured? As regards Jadeja - well dhoni thinks that he is the worlds best all rounder and he will be there on the WC team. I would prefer Irfan pathan to Yousuf . Yousuf does not have the temparment for a long innings in one day He is basically a 5-6 over player. Rohit is batting as if he is walking in sleep.A mumbai player playing across the line and repeatedly getting out LBW!!!!. Perhaps he did not have coaches who used to punish acroos the line play. Pity saurabh tiwary and Rayudu do not get any chance.If this is what is the position in one dayers, think of test matches when sachin, rahul and VVS retire. I shudder to think.

  • sharain on August 26, 2010, 12:27 GMT

    why are the selectors not including rahul dravid THE WALL?

  • manikandansethu on August 26, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    I think Is Dinesh Karthick the only batsman in India to be kept as a reserve opening Batsman?...We have M.Vijay,Robin,Manesh Pandey..Y these people r not given a chance after their consistent performance in First class matches...DK usely plays consistantly in middle order..and y he is forced to play as a opening batsman..and no one should force on DK's performance in this triseries...except viru everybody throwed their wickets cheaply...even our captain who's a No.1 in world is struggling... then y v people insisting on this..But one thing it's not the players who r not playing well...it's the selection commitee's mistake... srikanth should be removed from selection panel...he is not giving chance to players who r performing well ..and please don't play even a club cricket match in dumbulla stadium...the worst pitch i have ever seen...the team batting first defeats the other by a bonus point in every match...is't shame for the SLC for making this type of pitch..

  • on August 26, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    Dont waste indian Talent, we need bench strength to be equivalent stronger comaprable to Playing 11..., we have Immense talent

    Kick out who ever dosent perform likes of Dinesh Karthik / R.Jadeja / V.Kohli..,

    Bring back Robin Utthapa / Pathan Brothers / Manoj Tiwari/Parthiv Patel , Try out fresh talent likes of Manish Pandey / Chetashwar Pujara, S.Tiwary ,

  • thiyak on August 26, 2010, 12:17 GMT

    There are few Indian players behave good .One they are selected to the Indian team they start going to night clubs and get spoiled and don't play well . So the selectors have to look many things while selecting the players . I can give many example but just few Vinod Kambli / Ajay / Mokia / patan's /Uttapa etc

  • on August 26, 2010, 12:13 GMT

    Shame on Dinesh Karthik Scored "5" 50's in his 50 matches - Selector keeping him as a back up what a shame..., We have likes of Robin Utthapa , Manish Pandey , Saurbh Tiwary,Parthiv Patel , Manoj Tiwari , Chet..Pujara , Pathan Bro. Why dont they try them as openars b4 World cup .. Always sticking to dinesh & a consistent failure . At this stage its very clear partiality from C.Srikant being a tamilian - chief selector favours tamilian common you are chief selector for INDIA not for Tamil naidu..,

    very few months remaining for Worldcup & Aswell after worldcup for backup openars - Try out new talent we & give a chance to Robin,Manish,Pathan Bro...,

    DO NOT WASTE INDIAN TALENT - Remove Dinesh & Bring fresh Talent or try out oldies ..

  • thiyak on August 26, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    I am a Sri Lankan but i noticed karthik played well in Sl in the past may be bsed on that the captain selected also due to the injuiry of Guttam . People are not talking about the 2 outs which given against him ? Even except Viru other indian bastmen also failed . People write about other players also mostly reffering to there native place players or there religious players . Luckly karthik and Jaddaja not playing IPL for CSK. Indian previous selectots done worse than this when Gavaskar/vensakar was there almost 10 bombay payers played for Indian team . INDIAN PEOPLE FORGOT THIS ? You can't try a new player in all of a sudden in a knokout match . People talk about Uttapa mostly from Karnataka but Uttapa is not in good terms with dhoni since 2008 . Also both patan's behaviour is not good after the matches /night clubs etc . The secletcots have to look at manythings .People just write against a person is so common india which is not good.

  • Indydude on August 26, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    Wake up Sid! This is international cricket we're talking about. Chances aren't given...they should be grabbed. Karthik hasn't done much on a consistent basis to slot him as a top class international cricketer. That's where we differ from Aussies. There if you don't perform, you're back to domestic grind which is as it should be. Look at promising players like Phil Hughes, David Warner etc. They didn't perform at international test level and they're now out. Whereas guys like Watson (he's been like Karthik - but look how he made the opening slot his own), Bollinger, Siddle have made the most of their chances

  • on August 26, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    Need to kick out rohit sharma/dinesh karthik/virat kohli/jadeja and bring in the pathan bros, uthappa and pujara immediately inot the ODI suqad. these are the guys who need to be on the EC squad NOT KARTHIK, NOT SHARMA, NOT KOHLI NOT JADEJA.

  • SajinVarghese on August 26, 2010, 11:39 GMT

    My opinion to Kris Srikanth that Karthik should be rested.He has not scored a century after a long stop-gap career and hardly shown his ability to build an innings and always perished near 30-40's,it's average is around 25-27.Why don't we try for Saurabh Tiwary & Cheteswar Pujara,I think Sikhar Dhiwan is also a good contender for an opening spot,Please say good bye to Jadeja,Sharma & Kohli for atleast short period

  • on August 26, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    Though being an Indian,I pray that India should lose this final. If India doesn't lose this final then R Jadega, Rohit sharma, Dinesh Karthik, M Vijay all would be flying for the world cup.

    We need Saurabh Tiwary, Y Pathan, I Pathan and R Dravid (this is the guy we need most for balance) in team so that we can bat deep who has the ability to hit and change the course of the game in a matter of overs.

    Jadeja only bats when the cause is over for himself.

  • Madhusagar on August 26, 2010, 11:30 GMT

    Good day guys, I hope the selectors seriosuly consider options & look into the recent batting failures once this series is complete. Failure in a series or two has made it so difficult for Rahul Dravid or I.Pathan to come back into the team & I dont think they deserved that at all. I am sure if Dravid was in current squad he would have atleast scored 40/60 runs @ strike rate of 60 (much expected with pitches like Dambulla- except Sehwag's innings) even though there is a general consensus that Dravid wastes more balls than he converts them into runs, and I.Pathan would have contributed better with either the ball or the bat. If only these new players had half the mental strength and cricketing brain of Dravid/Tendulkar this team would have been in a much better situation. Looks like our selectors are pretty confident that they will find words to play with if something goes wrong - & as usual all it takes will be a series win to forget everything.

  • zykes46 on August 26, 2010, 11:30 GMT

    i feel india can win only if this players are available: 1) Sehwag 2) Sachin 3) Dhoni 4) Gambhir /m.pandey/cheteshwar pujara/saurab tiwary 5) Raina/rohit sharma/virat kholi / uthappa 6) Yuvraj 7) Bhajji/irfan pathan/ / 8) Praveen K 9) Zaheer 10) Nehra 11) Ishant 12) Mishra 13) Ojha/ R.Ashwin 14) Mithun /sudeep tyagi plz dont take ravindra jadeja he dont deserve to be in the NATIONAL SIDE

  • shaik.1984 on August 26, 2010, 10:55 GMT

    Hi Please Srikanth u r Indian Team selector Not a Chennai Team selector.please think about out Indian team. Please Take Patan Brother's in Team. No need to continue Karthik in India Team.. Waste Team Player.He is Not utilize the place.

  • shaik.1984 on August 26, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    No need to play in middle order.waste Karthik...... no use for Team. Patan Brothers is best. as a allrounder Yousuf and Patan is best.as a player he got lot of chances... he is not utilized.

  • Arok on August 26, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Very well ascertained and presented by Sidd, Dinesh Karthick is fine batsman with a better technique than many other current Indian batsmen in the team. He needs to be given opportunities in the middle order, not so long ago he produced a match winning knock in the same country. His domestic performances have been very stunning in terms of runs as well as match situations. Those who want DK out of the team have'nt mentioned any other second choice wicket keeper batsman. The amount of cricket Dhoni plays he definitely needs frequent breaks. I remember Ian Chappel's comments on Suresh Raina and DK, after proper nurturing Suresh Raina is flourishing, I wish DK will follow him. All the best DK.

  • shaik.1984 on August 26, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    my dream squad: 1) Sehwag 2) Sachin 3) Gambhir 4) Yuvraj -5) Raina 6) Dhoni 7)Irfan 8) Praveen K 9) Bajji 10) Zaheer 11) Nehara. Reserve players are 12)Utthapa 13)Ishant 14) Ojha 15) Rohit.

  • venkat4018 on August 26, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    Dear Cricinfo,

    I really value your website to the core because I work 12 hours a day and i rarely see many matches these days. I feel that my views are watched by all cricinfo viewers. I have a strong respect for the Indian Team now. But with world cup ahead i feel that this team would fail miserably. Lots of Technique problems, unable to play the short ball and over confidence. Of course, once Sachin, Gambir and Zaheer come back the side will be more positive but again, the team should have a technically sound player like Rahul Dravid. Robin Uthappa should also be a part of the team for the over hyped Kohli / Rohit. I like Jadeja but Irfan pathan would be really effective and would like to see irfan and praveen open the bowling with their Swing. Players like Styris, Oram, Morkel are player who give both options for your team in this regard the decent all rounders in Indian camp are Irfan Pathan and Ajit Agarkar. Pls give the devil its due credit. Knock off Ishant, Munaf and Sresant

  • Cricket_observer_from_1982 on August 26, 2010, 10:18 GMT

    One Question to everyone - Who has taken a oath that Dinesh kartick has to tired in all postion from 1 - 11 in indian team , till he becomes good, even if it takes 20 years, with so may talends sitting outside. Somehow it is difficult to digest the logic. even if he is dropped, how easily he manages and gets back in the team, by catching a flight. How unfair it is on Uttappa or Usef Patan to sit outside

  • buntyrewa on August 26, 2010, 10:03 GMT

    i dont understand y they are banking on rohit sharma virat kohli and dinesh kartik..The six for the world cup are fixed...sachin sehwag gambhi uv raina dhoni,no matter wat.rohit virat and kartik are not made for no. 7 so they dont hv a chance as they are not explosive hitters.The only place in question is no. 7 which is ideally a fite among irfan pathan yousuf pathan and robin uthappa...praveen nehra zaheer harbhajan are the bowlers..

  • on August 26, 2010, 9:52 GMT

    It will be better if dhoni gives up keeping and just concentrate more on captaining the side and as a specialized batsman he can do wonders to the sides chances in winning matches. Either uthapa or karthik can handle the gloves and give us lot of depth in batting too

  • gracegift on August 26, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    These young guns need to be shown the door. Sehwag, Sachin, Gambhir, Dravid Yuvraj, Dhoni, Zaheer, Praveen, I Pathan, Bhajji and Murali Karthik. The 4 reserves would be Y Pathan, R Ashwin, Vinay Kumar and Uthappa. Why Dravid? Because he is the best batter on a difficult pitch. He can also keep wickets along with Uthappa. Irfan adds balance. We can play 6 specialist batsmen(incl. MSD). M Karthik is better than Ojha. I'm edging Vinay before Ishant since he has more variety and this will work better than out and out pace.Besides most teams have sorted Ishant out already. Yousuf is a better bowler and hitter than jadeja -QED

  • chetangemawath on August 26, 2010, 9:31 GMT

    why dravid is being ignored?? he is such a classy player n can provide that stability india is lookin for in the middle order why uthappa is being ignored? why saurabh tiwary n cheteshwar pujara n manish pandey are being ignored??? i think selector shrikanth should come out of these cheap politics in selection n do justice in his job as a selector..

  • AsangaBandara on August 26, 2010, 9:11 GMT

    Karthik seems to have a difficulty in facing the swinging new ball. Yet he is much suited as middle order batsman because of his ability to work the ball and accelerate when necessary. India should find a specialist opener but i think Karthik should be give a fair chance in middle order because he provides Indian team a much needed hard hitter in the middle. Since dhoni is now playing a much passive role India is in need of fire power at the end. Ifran Pathan or Usuf Pathan is another good choice. But Usuf has to over come his difficulty in playing the short ball.

  • nataraajds on August 26, 2010, 9:02 GMT

    Once Gambhir is back, everything will be ok and DK will be in the reserves..leave it, he is not learning his mistakes. Yuvaraj seems to be out of form,, hope he will be back to form soon b4 worldcup. yestarday all our seamers bowld well..Praveen kumar & Nehra was too good for NZ. Hope our bolwers keep up same sprit in the final against Lanka. We cann't expect Sehwag to score each time. some one from DK,Kohli, Raina, Yuvaraj must get big score in Final.

  • on August 26, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    Jadeja def out.Karthik is not a specialist batsman.He can keep and can also bat.But trying him as a opener itself is a wrong idea.And if he is in the team he should be keeping to give Dhoni a break in the one dayers.I dont know how one can be so critical of Rohit Sharma after one indifferent series.He is young and is a class act.Now if Tendulkar and Gambhir are back in the side then all these guys will again be back in the sidelines.India unfortunately is not grooming a young side.

  • on August 26, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    just for all of you pointing to regionalism as the reason for karthik being picked in the team - can i just point out that he was first picked as a batsman and not as a keeper in south africa by Vengsarkar - and venkie persisted with him even tho clowns like shastri were howling for his dismissal even before he had been given a chance. now you may believe that he is not good enough to be in the team, but on the whole srikkanth has not been too bad in this regard - there have been much worse before him. how else could you justify agarkar, kulkarni, bahatule and dighe - the worst india have ever dished out - being part of the test team and that too at the SAME TIME???

  • Raja22222 on August 26, 2010, 8:40 GMT

    I think the stake holders of Indian cricket isn't bothered about creating a specialist opener for the future. The way they are selecting openers,giving chances in the playing 11 is a clear example of poor talent management by the selectors and coach.For instance M.Vijay was selected for one day team earlier this year and given 4 opportunities in the last 8 months.he scored 25 in 15 balls with five 4's against South Africa in his debut. I found this technically correct young man is having the temperament to show is natural style in his debut with out fear,and hoped he will play for a long time. But in his next 3 matches he scored 14 ,11 and 22.The last 3 dismissals, one is LBW, another is run out & the third one is Stumped. After this he is dropped from ODI squad and playing for tests. My question to all who concerned is what basis you selected him?if he has the technique and talent y u dropped him?.If v need a solution the coaches has 2 play a part in avoiding the avoidable dismissals

  • on August 26, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    Dinesh Karthik has been given too many chances, his success rate is 5% and barely 10% of the times his performance is tolerable. He and Murly Vijay should be shunted out for all time. When both Sachin and Gautam are not available for ODI let opening slot go to Parthiv Patel (reserve WK) or Irfan(I am not a gujarati).Youngistan brigade has failed miserably at no. 3 spot.Only solution is --call back Dravid.If fast bowling is expected to be encountered on lively pitches even Laxman or Dada will perform better.

  • on August 26, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    if dhoni giving chance kartik and jadeja and they r making runs under 20 every match but still in team if he give chance aswin and tiwari then india could be stronge plz dhoni save india and remove jadeja and srikant have only jadeja kartik murli vijay is only three plyer in india he thinks without them india cannot win so if srikant is slector in future and sehwag injured india team will reach under bangladesh in one day ranking he is not a good slector he did not give chance uttapa raydu y pathan

  • jkesav on August 26, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    Many of us are on same page for the team selection. Why do selectors or captain not having the same thinking? They don't pick right person in the team. I feel sad about Saurav Tiwary. I like the way he played in IPL for Mumbai Indians. I guess Dhoni wants to play politics. He wants to make a record of only person from Jharkand playing for India and nobody else from his state. Saurav handled pressure very well and the same with Ambati Rayudu. Rohit Sharma is one more player like VVS Laxman. He plays well in the last match of the series/tournament and stick to the team. There is no consistency. And the same for our bowlers, they had some luck yesterday. They too lack consistency. There are lot better players than Jadeja. It will be nice if Ajay Jadeja can come back and play in place of him. :) We need hard hitting allrounder/batsman like Pathans, Uthappa to play in 7th position. When do we get people like Kapil, Robin Singh for our team? Did you see Mills hitting like anything?

  • anonymousfan on August 26, 2010, 8:35 GMT

    Don't understand this article. In a team of 11 players you cannot give everyone their positions of choice. At least not when there are so few seats for so many people waiting to get in. Good players will have to adjust to whichever place they get. Sourav Ganguly was also forced into opening since there were no empty middle order positions. He went on to score 11K+ runs. Sehwag himself is also a forced opener. Look how he is doing.

  • milliondollarbaby on August 26, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    Why play karthik atall, OHH I just realized Mr K Srikanth who had a batting avg of 28 in test and 29 in ODI is the chairman of BCCI and comes from Tamil Nadu and OOPS MR karthik with a batting Avg of 29 in ODI from 43 innings, no hundreds, only 5 fifties and that too against bangladesh and west indies also comes from tamil nadu... ahh that's why. With the world cup next year, do you think we have the time to experiment with these kind of batsmen when the country with a huge reserve of talent is waiting for their turn... THIS is the state of Indian Cricket. The reason Australian cricket is on the top is because every player gets only 3 chances, if you don't don't perform then I guess you are fit for IPL and Mr MODI will take care of you.....

  • guru008 on August 26, 2010, 8:06 GMT

    i dont agree with the writer . Dinesh Karthik or Murli Vijay doesnot derserve a place in the Indian team. I am sorry if i see a definite bias towards one state here. Nothing has changed in India - as long as Ms Srikanth is the cheif selcteor - we will see this happen - after that another selector will come and favour his men.

  • royalg on August 26, 2010, 8:04 GMT

    As much as Karthik as done for india, he is still only a fringe player in my opinion, and shud only be a reserve batsman wicketkeeper nothing else, defo not an opener. Tiwary shud be given a chance in the middle well better than kholi, rohit or yuvraj. Shikar dhawan is pilling on runs for the A team and Emerging team and still heh has no chance, R vinay Kumar is defo an allrounder and he shud be given his chance after he had a brilliant emerging tournament. and to finish it all of the main WORRY FOR EVERYONE is JADEJAAAAAAAAA jus throw him out and give ASHWIN his spot or even piyush chawla is 100 times better

  • Dilly81 on August 26, 2010, 8:00 GMT

    Mr:Sidharth,

    I totally understand your points. But tell me this, where in India are you from ? Just curious to know as you want Murali Vijay in the ODI side and Dinesh Karthick to play a more integral role. Just curious you know...

  • on August 26, 2010, 7:49 GMT

    pls dropped karthick @ one day squad.give chance to tiwary,pujara or m.vijay to come squad and fill the indian side..m.vijay better than rohit or kholi. now india chase to best team to wc 2011 i like this team to wc 2011 1- Sachin 2- Sehwag 3- Gambhir 4- Dhoni 5- Yuvraj 6- Raina/M.Vijay 7- R.jadeja 8- Praveen 9- Harbhajan 10- Zaheer 11- Nehra Reserves : 1- Uthappa 2- Ishant 3- Ojha 4- Dravid

  • moinilyasneral on August 26, 2010, 7:49 GMT

    Why Karthik down the order, why not Karthik out of squad? He is from Chennai, so Srikkanth will not remove him, so why not Srikkanth out of Selectors?? There is a far superior batsman(also can keep wickets) Utthappa who is not being given any chances, why? Also, why is Dhoni so insistent on Jadeja even though he bats poorly, and leaks runs when he bowls? Dhoni has his Superkings guy Ashwin in the team, at Dambulla...he is a far superior bowler than Jadeja. The World Cup squad is still not settled, so too premature to pick any team, but I feel that either of the Pathans would be great no. 7's.And in place of the Rohits and Virats, why not Pujara? Let us hope selectors in their wisdom, if they have any, do some drastic changes to ODI squad for Aus tour of India.

  • sweetspot on August 26, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    Karthik has this predicament of being selected to simply FIT in for someone's absence, never giving him a full role to define by himself. He's done reasonably well under these circumstances, and is indeed India's finest keeper. As a package, Dhoni is an invaluable asset, but purely for keeping skills, Karthik is a shade better than him. Dhoni has improved a lot in his keeping, and Karthik too has enough character to do better, even purely as a batsman. As a reserve wicket keeper, which we need, he is way above par. NO batsman apart from Sehwag has come to terms with these Dambulla conditions, so let's not chip and chop based on this outing. Also, let's not use IPL as some sort of yardstick to measure anybody's true abilities in the international arena.

  • on August 26, 2010, 7:37 GMT

    I don't know actually why selectors are keeping jadeja in indian team.is anyone had support with him.is this a cricket selection,so many players are useless in indian team as like Ravindra Jadeja,Rohit Sharma,Dinesh Karthick.they got so many chances to improve their carrier.dear selectors,have to open your eyes and see wats going on here,we need a pinch hitter at no.7 position like irfan/yousuf pathan to charge in the last overs.you can see jadejas batting performance in the past innings,in Srilanka 4 pacers are enough to bowl. for 5th bowler can use sehwag,yuvaraj,sachin,raina as well....I supported "indian rules" comment.that will be the best team for world cup for ever....

  • Cricket_Jeemee on August 26, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    BCCI....NO JADEJA PLEASE PLEASE IN INDIAN CRICKET TEAM EVER...TRY PATHAN BROTHERS OR UTHAPPA...ATLEAST THESE PEOPLE CAN BAT LOT BETTER THAN JADEJA...WHY YOU DONT UNDERSTAND?

  • on August 26, 2010, 7:02 GMT

    my dream squad: 1) Sehwag 2) Sachin 3) Dhoni 4) Gambhir 5) Raina 6) Uthapa 7) Bhajji 8) Praveen K 9) Zaheer 10) Nehra 11) Ishant 12) Mishra 13) Ojha 14) Yuvraj - He should be in the bench and should wait for someone to get injured. 15) Mithun

    Please say NO to RJ/Jaddu! Dhoni said to look into his records and asked us to find about the games that he helped us in winning. I also ask Dhoni to look into his records and find out the games that he helped us in losing. I think it is almost the same. :P

  • ultimatewarrior on August 26, 2010, 6:54 GMT

    Definitely we should drop Dinesh Kartik as Reserve Opening Batsman but why should we bring M Vijay?? Does all reserve players should come from Tamil Nadu or Chennai Superkings?? Why not Team Management has not yet tried even once in 4 matches Saurabh Tiwari?? Why Utthappa has not selected in top15 even after being fit?? Mr Srikant and Mr Dhoni are lucky that Sehwag and Sachin are their grace otherwise Team India is struggling even today...

  • vipin.chaudhary2325 on August 26, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    India haven't won many much if they play with 5 bowlers, 5th bowling quata have always been completed by sehwag, yuvi etc.... karthik is gud as a keeper, not as a opening batsman, irfan pathan can be a better opener then him, why have selectors forgotten Mohd. Kaif, he can replace Kohli aur Sharma, my squad for world cup 1. Sachin 2.sehwag 3.gambhir 4.raina. 5.yuvraj. 6.dhoni. 7.rohit/kaif/virat 8.irfan 9. harbhajan 10. zaheer 11.nehra/munaf/praveen kumar

  • raj3470 on August 26, 2010, 6:50 GMT

    please BCCi should stop messing around with the team and take genuine match winners. Bring in Tiwari and Rayadu who are solid middle order players and good fielders and rayadu can also do wicket keeping in case dhoni is injured ... bring in irfan pathan to give our lower middle order more solidity and he is much better than Jadeja who has done nothing great inspite of so many chances and he cannot even hit the ball outside 30 yards ... atleast irfan pathan is a powerful striker and can bowl well on indian pitches. a good team would be 1. sachin 2. sehwag 3. gambhir/dravid 4. tiwari 5. yuvraj 6. dhoni 7. raina 8. irfan 9. harbhajan 10. praveen kumar 11. zaheer with reserves 12. ashwin as a back up spinner 13. sreesanth 14. ishant 15. rayadu .... please no jadeja as yuvraj can bowl left arm spin ... jadeja was also banned in ipl yet has been selected and not performed. please it is not abt team dhoni or team srikanth or team north or team south ... it is for team india.

  • SumeshCudHavBeenAnHarsha on August 26, 2010, 6:44 GMT

    Hey guys, wats this? Why talking about Uthappa and Irfan? These talks have been going on for a long time.. There are players like Saurabh Tiwary, Ashwin, Mithun etc. who have been warming(burning) the benches for a long period of time.. Even the shortest possible changes like Tiwary are not tried, then where comes the question of trying Uthappa and Irfan again.. I dont know why Rohit, Kohli and Karthik are again and again considered even after failing in the crunch games.. Ah, Kohli has scored hundreds and Rohit too scored hundreds.. And Karthik too has scored some 50s.. We all know that.. But wat happens to them in the crunch games??? They play and score a 100 or a 50 once in 30 matches and they retain their spot for the next 30 games.. I believe that India won T20 world cup only because of the bold decision of playing with youngsters alone when the experienced were going a bit tough going.. They should follow the same for this final.. Bring in Tiwary in that slot of Rohit or Kohli..

  • adiweb86 on August 26, 2010, 6:37 GMT

    Karthik is in the team only because Kris Srikkant is the chief selector. There is no reason that explains 23 Tests (Avg. 27.77) and 51 ODI (Avg. 28.00) matches for Karthik, who is the biggest loser in world cricket today BY FAR.........

  • smokingfly on August 26, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    Sad to see regionalism creeping in again - the only reason why Karthik is being picked as the chief selector also belongs to the same natives. Indian cricket will keep suffering until we have such administrators of the game. A real sad thing that players like S Tiwari, Pandey and many others are being ignored at the cost of D Karthik whose career avg in even domestic cricket is petty 30.

  • Cricket_observer_from_1982 on August 26, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    Dinesh Kartik is only a glorified tailender. even hurbhajan makes a 50 once in 20 matches. Karthick has something speical. He knows how to succesfully manage a very rich and powerful BCCI somehow. Hats off to Kartick , but Shame on India , and cricket

  • NIS59104 on August 26, 2010, 6:19 GMT

    I THINK KARTHIK HAS GOT MANY MORE CHANCES THEN HE DESERVES , WHAT ABOUT ROBIN UTHAPPA HE WAS IN CLASSICAL FORM IN IPL AND NATURAL OPENER BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY SELECTORS AR PURSUING WITH M.VIJAY AND KARTHIK,AND FOR JADEJA PLEASE PLEASE CALL ANY OF PATHAN BROTHERS AT NO. 6 OR 7. THEY AR MUCH DESRVING THAN ANY OTHER.

  • Rhododendron on August 26, 2010, 6:05 GMT

    Its preposterous that there can actually be a demand for Karthik having a permanent slot !! How does he get into the team in the first place? Shouldn't he be just grateful that in spite of averaging 27 in tests, 28 in ODIs, the Chennai clique manages to hand him 23 and 51 opportunities repectively in the two formats! True he has been shunted into every position from 1 to 7, but even truer is that he failed everywhere. And as for being a "successful middle-order batsman for Tamil Nadu" his 1st class average reads 39 and List A avg 29!! Even mediocrity sounds euphemistic. Surely Mr. Ravindran can think of some more "successful" names in the 1st class circuit.

  • Indian_Rules on August 26, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    Ravindra Jadeja seems to have some close and family relation with Kris Srikanth ( read baffoon ). That is the only reason I see why he's picked time and again to spoil 1 spot in the squad and in the team

  • Sumanth.V on August 26, 2010, 5:59 GMT

    I dont' think that karthik is capable of doing justice as a opener in the place of Ganbhir. He fit for test cricket only and absolutly not for one day cricket. A good begining can only turn the match in favor of the team so we need an aggressive player like Yusuf pathan to accompany Sehwag in theb absence of Gambhir. Why these people are always thinking about players form Tamilnadu only.India has enough talent in other states also. First the selection pattern should be changed. See I feel the Australians are having a reaaly good selection process. I still wonder where the hitter Robin uthappa..as Dhoni said today in TOI as young players are learning ..overnight nobody can become masters. Let Uthappa comes into the team and he should be trained well. What about Ambati tirupathi Rayudu, Manish pandey, Abhishek Nair, Parthiv patel ( better than Dinesh Karthik). The media always blames The players if they lose any match but what the selectors are doing,Learning nothing form their mistakes.

  • Indian_Rules on August 26, 2010, 5:50 GMT

    I request the BCCI to please please please have a look into this squad and give India a best shot for the worldcup..... 1- Sachin 2- Sehwag 3- Gambhir 4- Dhoni 5- Yuvraj 6- Raina 7- Irfan Pathan 8- Praveen 9- Harbhajan 10- Zaheer 11- Nehra

    Reserves : 1- Uthappa 2- Ishant 3- Ojha 4- Karthik / Rohit / Kohli

    And please please please no Jadeja again

  • Rajit on August 26, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    Before this Tri series started,I had mentioned in one of my comments on Cricinfo as to why is karthik selected in the squad? Effectively Srikanth and co have selected only one regular opener in Sehwag.3 openers were tried on India 'A" tour to England and all 3 were reasonably successful...hence one of those 3 should have been on the flight to colombo and not Karthik..Also I fail to understand why is Rohit Sharma still in the squad.He should be Kicked out of the team

  • frozeninusa on August 26, 2010, 5:41 GMT

    Why play Karthik at all? For middle order, Kohli, Tiwari, and Sharma are certainly better options. Give Tiwari a chance at number 3. Since no other opener is in the team, may be open with Rohit Sharma.

  • HarishNGowda on August 26, 2010, 5:33 GMT

    Enough of chances to Karthick, a specialist WK who can bat A BIT, Mr. Srikanth. We should turn back to Robin Uthappa, again a specialist WK who can bat LOT BETTER. I guess, no time for more experiments. We should bring back Rahul Dravid and Robin Uthappa; the Solid Wall in any form of the game and the Dangerous Stylist Batsman, Robin.

  • KHKrishnakumar on August 26, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    I believe Karthik should be given some more opportunities in a fixed position. He is always being used as a vacuum filler. He has a better wicketkeeping technique and batting style when compared to Dhoni. However since Dhoni is the Captain, we cannot drop him for Karthik. If the selectors believe that he should be a reserve opener, then he should be given more chances of opening the batting. If they believe that he is a reserve keeper, then he should be made to keep and ask Dhoni to field for a few matches and also make him bat down the order. Please note that he is the only person who is ready play any kind of role in the Indian team. He was made an opener test matches, made a middle order batsman in T20's and is part of almost all the tours warming the bench but never become a permanent member in the side which will be added pressure for him to perform. Also pls remember that this player never gets opportunity to play in home series where the pitches are good for batting.Unlucky chap

  • on August 26, 2010, 5:20 GMT

    I completely agree with Mr. HarishAnantaneni's comment. 1. Sachin 2. Sehwag 3. Gambhir 4. Dhoni 5. Yuvraj 6. Raina 7. Y or I Pathan 8. Harbajan 9. Praveen 10. Zaheer 11. Nehra

    Dhoni must bat higher and with greater freedom. That would be the team India I would bet on! Hope all major players are in form.

  • Pradeeps_Speed on August 26, 2010, 5:20 GMT

    Why isn't Uthappa tried as a back up keeper/opener? Karthik has not been consistent. The middle badly requires some solidarity. Dravid is still available for one days, why isn't he brought back? For how long will the selectors and Dhoni persist with the failures of Rohit and Virat? It will demoralise people who have been performing well in the domestic circuit.

  • jomesh on August 26, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    The writer seems to be obsessed by one player and wants him to keep a place in the team, no matter what his performance or capabilities suggest. This player, Karthik must be dropped from the team at the earliest. He has been given ample opportunities - 50 ODIs & 23 test matches over 6 years, where he averages 28&27 resply. Hardly the figures you expect from your top order batsman. He's being made to scuffle his role in the team-true. But so has many more before him :Dravid,Mongia,Patel..to name a few. Fact is,he has failed in whatever roles he has been given. He's a complete failure as keeper in test matches (eg.SL series in 2008). The author mentions that he is a 'great performer' in First Class cricket. This is factually WRONG: He averages just 39.15 from 79 1st Class Games! You can find atleast 25 players with better averages in Indian domestic circuit. Now, what the author is trying (&selectors) is, to create a tiger out of a goat. It will never happen.

  • rkannancrown on August 26, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    Kartik actually was a successful test opener scoring in South Africa & England against pace attacks that are far superior to what we are seeing in Sri Lanka. The problem is he is trying too hard. With Sehwag, Dhoni & Raina in the team, his job is to hold one end up. The team management needs to have a word with him. The other point about Rohit is valid. He is a complete failiure aginst decent pace attacks. He is good only on flat tracks. The logical thing is to persist with Kohli for some time. he scored well in a few games but the team management's illogical persistance with Rohit Sharma has resulted in a youngster always under pressure. What is needed is to play any youngster for a period of 10-15 games before judging them. Asking somebody to play a game & then drop him, bring him back & drop him again will never produce results.

  • brlara on August 26, 2010, 5:16 GMT

    When the oppurtunity has been given it has to be grasped someone like Sehwag or Raina who scored their away test debut hundreds and performing consistently. I am a tamilian and a proper chennai resident. But after Kris srikanth or Robin singh, None of our Tamilnadu boys deserve their place in Indian team, Karthik eerrr,,, scoring tonnes of runs in local and nothing in international oflate. But then,, DAMBULLA,,,, is that ground deserves to be there in the international stadium list. Team scoring 225 or 230 won by over a 100 run margin twice or thrice in this series. Sehwag is scoring alright. But are the rest of all indians that bad enough as the scores says? The pitch in Dambulla picks turns for 30 minutes and seams for another 40 minutes etc,, sudden rain,,, it goes on,, IT IS NOT A LAME EXCUSE,, but these things to be considered as well. LET US NOT GET CARRIED AWAY NOW,, let us come out of that ground and back to India,, watch out on us against Australia, india will rock,,

  • nk_sharma on August 26, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    What Gary Christan is doing???As he was also a left hand batsman..why he is not teaching Raina about handling short pitched deliveries?? why he is not helping to Rohit Sharma about his footwork?? why he is not able to improve the techniques of karthiks & kohlis?? What is the role of a coach?? It seems that India is a top class team because of natural talents of a few players like Sehwag & Sachin and a performing captain Dhoni. But atleast we should be thankful to guru Gary for not spoiling Indian cricket as guru Greg (Chappel) did!!!

  • raghvender on August 26, 2010, 5:11 GMT

    We always persist only with some bunch of players and never try for young talent like tiwary and rayudu who has done great in ipl matches.thats the reason we are in this stage now, if we still continue like this, sure we will lloose world cup and we never able to give sachin his dream.shame on dhoni a great politician

  • mshashikumar on August 26, 2010, 5:04 GMT

    The name of your sub Editor all the story, I dont know what has gone in to this tamilians mind, why dont you try till No.10 in all the positions so that he fits some where in the line up, How many do you want to give him, I know until srikanth is c/man of selection commitee this guy will always be in the team so no worry try him from 1 to 11 ( I know that my comment will not be published hoe ever convey this to the concerned)

  • chnind on August 26, 2010, 4:56 GMT

    Well said Sid. He should bat at 6 or 7 where he was most successful and played matcwinning innings for his domesticteam despite he done reasonably well as an opener. This series was an oppurtunity to try out Karthik at 6. I think that is wasted. I don't think he will get the oppurtunity when Gambir & sachin comes back.

  • ms.arjun on August 26, 2010, 4:55 GMT

    India needs to groom Praveen's batting abilities in the next 6 months, and make him an all rounder of the team, and start giving chances to Ashwin more before the world cup. Indian pictches assist spinners a lot and Ashwin has great abitlty to control the run rate. All IPL teams had big names at the top order, but none of them were able to score big against Ashwin. Having Nehra, Zaheer, Praveen, Harbhajan and Ashwin makes a strong bowling unit, along side the humongous batting strength of Sachin, Sehwag, Dhoni, Gambhir, Yuvraj, and Raina. But all this can happen only if Praveen is grommed as an allrounder, this guy has the ability to be one. He is tall, powerful and has a great spirit towards the game. Also India needs to strengthen the bench strength of Virat, Tiwary, Ishant, Munaf and Ohja and may be Dinesh and Rohit, but i dont see them adding any value. Time to wake up Team India, world cup is near.

  • Strikers on August 26, 2010, 4:52 GMT

    You say he hasn't been given more than 12 games at a stretch... My question is how many more does one need? You can't keep picking someone endlessly on the basis of potential alone. Frankly, I don't think he's up to the mark there either. He's not among the top 10 batsmen in the country to be picked for his batting alone.

    With competition as stiff as it is, fringe players like him have to show what they're capable of, in the limited opportunities they get. Karthik has played 51 ODIs - enough in my opinion to determine whether or not he belongs at the highest level. Based on what he's done till now, he just doesn't measure up.

  • on August 26, 2010, 4:48 GMT

    I dont understand why the Indian Selectors or MSD keeps pushing themselves to Play Dinesh Karthik as asn opener... Does he looks like an One Day opener... He has never performed for India and won a game... The youngster like Sourabh Tiwary is sitting idle in the dressing room watching likes of Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli play.... You must have better ways to demoralise a young talent like him.... Stupid decision to play kartik without any performance in his career....

  • on August 26, 2010, 4:30 GMT

    Try out Mukund/Rahane/Vijay/Dhawan as backup openers, we have enough specialist openers knocking the doors....I always felt its a bad idea to have Karthik open...Even in final, we should try Virat to open and Karthik to come at number-4 after Raina...Karthik is mainly here because Dhoni's fingers can go bad anytime in the series and we need a WK...

  • babusathish on August 26, 2010, 4:30 GMT

    why again has to give chance to karthik or M Vijay first has to give chance to Uthappa and then have to include Dravid in the team and Jadeja should be replaced by Irfan Pathan. Rohit Sharama has been given enough chances, so Rohit, Jadeja, Karthick ,Kholi and Yuvraj Should be dropped.

  • Joby_George on August 26, 2010, 4:27 GMT

    Why is Jadeja selected ahead of Irfan Patan ? Any reason for that ? Sometimes feels doubt on the selection. Obvousely kartik is given chances only because of srikanth. No one in recent time has got chances like Rohit. If India want to enter 2nd round of World Cup 2011, Bring back Dravid & Irfan back.

  • gauravbhatnagar on August 26, 2010, 4:23 GMT

    Whether he opens the innings or he comes in the middle order nothing will happen,he has been given so many chances but still he is the star in the eyes of Selectors.Drop Dinesh Karthik,Rohit Sharma and Ravindra Jadeja and please please please bring back ROBIN UTHAPPA AND IRFAN PATHAN and just see the change..Selectors please wake up other wise World cup is not too far away.

  • T.Varghese on August 26, 2010, 4:22 GMT

    If the team is expecting around 25 runs from a batsman, nothing wrong. U can keep him in any position.

  • jimbond on August 26, 2010, 3:48 GMT

    Karthik for the middle order? What happened to Uthappa, Pujara, Rohit Sharma, Kohli, Irfan Pathan, Yusuf Pathan, Badrinath, Manish Pandey, Saurabh Tiwary, Shikhar Dhawan, Rahane, etc etc who are all better one day batsmen than Karthik. And if one requires a reliable tested middle order bat who can also keep wickets, why not go back to Rahul Dravid? Karthik has been given too many opportunities. Now he needs to be saved and brought back to play first class cricket for at least three years- and allowed opportunities ONLY if Dhoni gets injured.

  • Magz on August 26, 2010, 3:39 GMT

    I do not completely agree with Sidharth's comments. Dinesh Karthik has got as many opportunities as anyone who is trying to establish themselves in the team. He sadly hasn't cemented his place in any form of cricket or position in the batting order. But always shows us a glimpse of what he is actually capable of. It is time that the selectors would lose hope or another more effective competitor would emerge from within the darkness to take over his place. It is now or never for DK.

  • gonty_superXI on August 26, 2010, 3:38 GMT

    When time is to drop Karthik, you are suggesting to shift him from opening slot to middle-order. Strange!! We have a good opener in Parthiv Patel. Even Rohit Sharma can be given a chance. Why Naman Oza / Parthiv are not given any chance ? They are far better in terms of keeping and batting compared to Karthik.

    Naman is a good asset in longer run. Parthiv also plays from Chennai. So he must get a chance.

    Irfan Pathan is another cricket who should be given chance as allrounder. Coming in at no. 8 or 9 he strenthens our batting lineup and can bowl atleast 5 overs. He is not that bad to let go.

  • Maui3 on August 26, 2010, 3:12 GMT

    Oh please. Karthik has got a lot of chances. You want to shuffle around more successful ODI player to accomodate him? He had his place firmly established few years ago and has performed very poorly in tests and ODI to deserve chances against M. Vijay or Raina or even Kohli. He is lucky to even get his chance, He will have to perform at any spot he is sent and will have to figure out how, before patience run out with him and he's dropped for good.

  • Prawin034 on August 26, 2010, 3:10 GMT

    This is the right time to bring Irfan, Jadeja got enough opprutinites let him play domestic cricket for a while and get stronger. We need a strong bowling all rounder. I dont see any one now than irfan, Sid's team is Fantastic

  • topspeed55 on August 26, 2010, 3:07 GMT

    Rohit Sharma never learns from his mistakes so often he has been out in a similar fashion. Is he a Professional Cricketer? Karthik really has a talent I think middle order may be a way to go But he need chances for sure. Very elegant, soothing player

  • Peter_Walters on August 26, 2010, 2:35 GMT

    Good idea!! This way he has protection at front and back :-)))

    Get real!! How much can he score in a world cup match? My guess is 30 runs maximum. We should not be investing in him.

    Here is my World cup team: 1. T'kar 2. Sehwag 3. Gambhir 4. Laxman 5. Dravid/Yuvaraj/Raina/Kohli 6. Dhoni 7. Dravid/Yuvaraj/Raina/Kohli 8. Irfan (or Nehra) 9. Harbhajan/Chawla 10. Zaheer 11. Ishanth/Munaf.

    T batsmen + 4 main bowlers. Sehwag and Yuvaraj can also bowl.

  • HarishAnantaneni on August 26, 2010, 2:32 GMT

    When the Master and the rest come back into the ODI team, the team must look like this: 1. Sachin 2. Sehwag 3. Gambhir 4. Dhoni 5. Yuvraj 6. Raina 7. Y or I Pathan 8. Harbajan 9. Praveen 10. Zaheer 11. Nehra Dhoni don't go down the order, let Yuvi and Raina bat with bowlers. Bench should be 1. R.Utappa or M.Vijay 2. V.Kohli 3. Rohit or Karthik 4. Ohja 5. Ishant

  • SACHIN_SACHIN_SACHIN on August 26, 2010, 2:27 GMT

    Well said Mr.Siddarth.. Karthik plys a back-up for all top 7 players... if he could know to bowl a little, then he might be the back up for bowlers too. Surprise to see Jadeja getting so many chances at No 7, atleast this guy Karthik can get a chance at No 6 for one series where he is too strong. Also dont know why they took Tiwary and keeping him in bench for 2 consecutive series...?

  • HarishAnantaneni on August 26, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    When the Master and the rest come back into the ODI team, the team must look like this: 1. Sachin 2. Sehwag 3. Gambhir 4. Dhoni 5. Yuvraj 6. Raina 7. Y or I Pathan 8. Harbajan 9. Praveen 10. Zaheer 11. Nehra Dhoni don't go down the order, let Yuvi and Raina bat with bowlers. Bench should be 1. R.Utappa or M.Vijay 2. V.Kohli 3. Rohit or Karthik 4. Ohja 5. Ishant

  • maddy20 on August 26, 2010, 2:19 GMT

    Are you kidding me Mr.Ravindran? The way the top order is collapsing, even if he bats in the middle order he will be in after 7-8 overs! Karthik and Jadeja are just waste of slots. Bring in Irfan Pathan and Pujara/Manish Pandey if we really want to start preparation for world cup. This would have been the ideal pitch for Irfan to get his confidence back (in bowling) and we all know how good he is at batting.

  • amin.bintory on August 26, 2010, 2:07 GMT

    I have a better suggestion. Put the likes of Dinesh Karthick, Rohit Sharma, Ravindra Jadeja and Virat Kohli back in the domestic cricket leagues. These guys have had enough number of chances in recent past but have failed miserably. It's like one performance in 5-6 matches from these most-of-the-time-out-of-form players! With the world cup looming ahead, once-upon-a-time-established players like Irfan Pathan, Robin Uthappa and Murali Vijay (never so established but was in killer form in IPL3) should be given a chance for short tournaments like these. Instead the selectors seem on a mission to establish the mentioned 4 players in the team no matter what. It's pathetic to see players like Jadeja being pursued when we have the likes of Abhishek Nayar and Yusuf Pathan who are better players any day then him. If Pathan Senior had so many chances as Jadeja, by now he could easily had found his groove and role. Bottomline: Get the non performers out, now. Give the deserving a chance.

  • on August 26, 2010, 2:00 GMT

    drop karthik completely from the limited overs side. use robin uthappa as a back up keeper. he has proved in the ipl that he is capable of that role. however he may not be good enough for the wicket keeper slot in test cricket.

    Dinesh Karthik can take over that role in test cricket as a back up keeper.

    For one dayers, if you lose one of the openers due to injury bring in the obvious replacement Murali Vijay. Abhinav Mukund could be tried as well.

  • AvidCricFan on August 26, 2010, 1:38 GMT

    Why persist with some one who has time again proved to be a weak performer? The likes of Karthik are good flat-wicket bullies. They crumble like a house of cards when there is little movement and bounce in the wicket. Even Parthiv would be a better choice.

  • crickeyt on August 26, 2010, 1:16 GMT

    That is why one must always pick a middle order batsman (numbers 3-6) as captain. Most other positions (openers, wicketkeeper, leg-spinner, off-spinner) are specialist, who must be picked on the basis of form and pitch conditions. That leaves pace bowlers, but they must retire to the third man or fine leg boundary to recuperate and cannot be effectively involved in the game-play in the middle. Now we have a situation where Karthik is a better batsman and keeper than Dhoni, but cannot be picked. Similarly, there was a phase when Kumble was bowling badly, but was still picked despite Bhajji being in better form.

  • manasvi_lingam on August 26, 2010, 0:11 GMT

    When everyone is back this is my lineup provided that Raina and Gambhir are in good form. If Gambhir/Raina is out of form then bring in Dravid.

    Sachin Sehwag Dravid/Gambhir Pujara Dhoni Raina Nayar Bhajji Zaheer Praveen Nehra/Ojha Pujara deserves the chance. His List A average is extremely high - even greater than Dhoni. Besides he can play both anchor and attacking role. Thus, our top 5 will be very solid. At 6 we can have Raina or Tiwary who primarily attack. At 7 we must have Nayar who hits the ball hard and also bowls medium pace.

  • Hardeepvakil on August 25, 2010, 23:33 GMT

    i agree with this article that Karthik never got a consistent run in international arena. but my concern is does he deserve a place in this team and if there is a vacuum created due to injury or out of form player then indian selectors should pick some either with experience (Kaif, Uthappa,Jaffer etc) or some fresh players who had a better run in Ranji or other domestic cricket. i seriously believe that Karthik is a good wicket keeper who can bat a bit but not good enough for specialist batting role in team

  • Nicolas-Perera on August 25, 2010, 23:12 GMT

    Ye Siddarth u r right, team India please give chance to Karthick to play consistent roll & spot, he would be the one u looking 4 future. He is technically very correct but just mind make up & consistent game plan that he has developed. Mind u the pressure he has deal with 2. So please give him enough chance at consistent spot he would be there (tests & ODIs) Remember Rahul Dravid was very similar at beginning of his ODI carrier. even though he was well organized test player.

    mind u this pitch is not a cricket pitch, Lankan prepared to set victory for them self.tell me other wise why they should play in one ground.if security is concern ,no team should play in the island as they did to pakistan. pick up the team and prepare the pitch (lankan mantra)

    ICC please kumar dharmasena away from the final.if not, declare lankan the Victorious and Kumar dharmasena the man of the match.

    well done lanka spoil & ruin the gentlemen game(which should play by gentlemen not lankans)

  • the_blue_android on August 25, 2010, 22:21 GMT

    Karthik isn't good enough to play as a pure batsman neither in the middle order or opener role. I just don't get why the selectors keep picking him(may be I do) when we have players like Maneesh Pandey, Ajinkya Rahane, Pujara, Saurabh Tiwary. We have invested too much on Rohit Sharma and Kathink with absolutely minimal returns. Time to look for other players who have better technique.

  • Tokas on August 25, 2010, 21:45 GMT

    To me Karthik does not belong anywhere in India ODI line up. He is a decent player but not technically a accomplished batsman(which is criteria for selection)....why would you keep someone like Dravid out !!! come on how can we compare Karthik to Dravid in middle order or any place. His keeping is pathetic ...so in short Karthiks and Jadejas are complete misfit in team as they are Jack of all trade & master of none.

  • on August 25, 2010, 21:42 GMT

    totally hopeless cricketer!! enough oppurtunities.. he was totally clueless on how to play in tough pitches despite having had palyed for the team close to 4 years. Come on! enough is enough! bring in Murali Vijay or someone else who has some technique!

    enuf of these karthiks, kohlis and omg! - jadeja( the fit for nothing all-rounder !)

  • on August 25, 2010, 21:07 GMT

    When everyone is back and fully fit:

    1. Tendulkar, 2. Sehwag, 3. Gambhir, 4. Raina, 5. Dhoni, 6. Yuvraj, 7. Jadeja/I Pathan, 8. Harbhajan, 9. Kumar, 10. Khan/Nehra, 11. Sharma

    Select between Jadeja and Irfan depending on pitch. I would pick Nehra in ODI's so that Khan is fit for Test matches. Reserve opener should be Murali Vijay and Robin Uthappa, reserve middle-order should be Virat Kohli, Dinesh Karthik and Rohit Sharma, reserve seamers should be Patel, Mithun, reserve spinner should be Ohja.

  • on August 25, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    I obsolutely agree with Mr.Siddarth, Dinesh Karthick always picked as on reserve player inspite of his good performance in the Test series in England where he was highest run getter. He has not been given a long run either in Test / One day. Only when there is vaccum created in the team he was choosen to that spot. Let the Team India give him a chance to play continusly in the spot where he is familar rathar than the one created because of others.

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  • on August 25, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    I obsolutely agree with Mr.Siddarth, Dinesh Karthick always picked as on reserve player inspite of his good performance in the Test series in England where he was highest run getter. He has not been given a long run either in Test / One day. Only when there is vaccum created in the team he was choosen to that spot. Let the Team India give him a chance to play continusly in the spot where he is familar rathar than the one created because of others.

  • on August 25, 2010, 21:07 GMT

    When everyone is back and fully fit:

    1. Tendulkar, 2. Sehwag, 3. Gambhir, 4. Raina, 5. Dhoni, 6. Yuvraj, 7. Jadeja/I Pathan, 8. Harbhajan, 9. Kumar, 10. Khan/Nehra, 11. Sharma

    Select between Jadeja and Irfan depending on pitch. I would pick Nehra in ODI's so that Khan is fit for Test matches. Reserve opener should be Murali Vijay and Robin Uthappa, reserve middle-order should be Virat Kohli, Dinesh Karthik and Rohit Sharma, reserve seamers should be Patel, Mithun, reserve spinner should be Ohja.

  • on August 25, 2010, 21:42 GMT

    totally hopeless cricketer!! enough oppurtunities.. he was totally clueless on how to play in tough pitches despite having had palyed for the team close to 4 years. Come on! enough is enough! bring in Murali Vijay or someone else who has some technique!

    enuf of these karthiks, kohlis and omg! - jadeja( the fit for nothing all-rounder !)

  • Tokas on August 25, 2010, 21:45 GMT

    To me Karthik does not belong anywhere in India ODI line up. He is a decent player but not technically a accomplished batsman(which is criteria for selection)....why would you keep someone like Dravid out !!! come on how can we compare Karthik to Dravid in middle order or any place. His keeping is pathetic ...so in short Karthiks and Jadejas are complete misfit in team as they are Jack of all trade & master of none.

  • the_blue_android on August 25, 2010, 22:21 GMT

    Karthik isn't good enough to play as a pure batsman neither in the middle order or opener role. I just don't get why the selectors keep picking him(may be I do) when we have players like Maneesh Pandey, Ajinkya Rahane, Pujara, Saurabh Tiwary. We have invested too much on Rohit Sharma and Kathink with absolutely minimal returns. Time to look for other players who have better technique.

  • Nicolas-Perera on August 25, 2010, 23:12 GMT

    Ye Siddarth u r right, team India please give chance to Karthick to play consistent roll & spot, he would be the one u looking 4 future. He is technically very correct but just mind make up & consistent game plan that he has developed. Mind u the pressure he has deal with 2. So please give him enough chance at consistent spot he would be there (tests & ODIs) Remember Rahul Dravid was very similar at beginning of his ODI carrier. even though he was well organized test player.

    mind u this pitch is not a cricket pitch, Lankan prepared to set victory for them self.tell me other wise why they should play in one ground.if security is concern ,no team should play in the island as they did to pakistan. pick up the team and prepare the pitch (lankan mantra)

    ICC please kumar dharmasena away from the final.if not, declare lankan the Victorious and Kumar dharmasena the man of the match.

    well done lanka spoil & ruin the gentlemen game(which should play by gentlemen not lankans)

  • Hardeepvakil on August 25, 2010, 23:33 GMT

    i agree with this article that Karthik never got a consistent run in international arena. but my concern is does he deserve a place in this team and if there is a vacuum created due to injury or out of form player then indian selectors should pick some either with experience (Kaif, Uthappa,Jaffer etc) or some fresh players who had a better run in Ranji or other domestic cricket. i seriously believe that Karthik is a good wicket keeper who can bat a bit but not good enough for specialist batting role in team

  • manasvi_lingam on August 26, 2010, 0:11 GMT

    When everyone is back this is my lineup provided that Raina and Gambhir are in good form. If Gambhir/Raina is out of form then bring in Dravid.

    Sachin Sehwag Dravid/Gambhir Pujara Dhoni Raina Nayar Bhajji Zaheer Praveen Nehra/Ojha Pujara deserves the chance. His List A average is extremely high - even greater than Dhoni. Besides he can play both anchor and attacking role. Thus, our top 5 will be very solid. At 6 we can have Raina or Tiwary who primarily attack. At 7 we must have Nayar who hits the ball hard and also bowls medium pace.

  • crickeyt on August 26, 2010, 1:16 GMT

    That is why one must always pick a middle order batsman (numbers 3-6) as captain. Most other positions (openers, wicketkeeper, leg-spinner, off-spinner) are specialist, who must be picked on the basis of form and pitch conditions. That leaves pace bowlers, but they must retire to the third man or fine leg boundary to recuperate and cannot be effectively involved in the game-play in the middle. Now we have a situation where Karthik is a better batsman and keeper than Dhoni, but cannot be picked. Similarly, there was a phase when Kumble was bowling badly, but was still picked despite Bhajji being in better form.

  • AvidCricFan on August 26, 2010, 1:38 GMT

    Why persist with some one who has time again proved to be a weak performer? The likes of Karthik are good flat-wicket bullies. They crumble like a house of cards when there is little movement and bounce in the wicket. Even Parthiv would be a better choice.