India in South Africa 2013-14, ODI series December 4, 2013

Indian batsmen seek to repair poor averages

Shiva Jayaraman
Stats preview of the ODI series between South Africa and India
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India are currently on a roll in ODIs, having won their last-four ODI series played away from home, but they will be posed with a much stiffer challenge this time around. India have never been happy tourists to South Africa, having won only two of the last-ten ODIs they have played against them at their home. Their overall away record in ODIs against South Africa reads even worse: India have managed to win just five out of the 25 ODIs against them. Unsurprisingly, India's win-loss ratio of 0.26 against South Africa is their worst against the top ODI teams away from home. They have played three bilateral ODI series against South Africa in South Africa and are yet to register a series win. In fact, South Africa is the only country where India haven't won an ODI series.

Part of India's poor performances there can be attributed to the fact that South Africa have themselves been resilient at home. Till late 2009, Australia were the only to team to win a bilateral series against South Africa in South Africa. From October 2002 to November 2009, South Africa won 17 consecutive bilateral series. But since their loss to England in November 2009, South Africa have lost four of the seven bilateral ODI series they have played against major ODI-teams at home- to Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan and England.

South Africa's ODI series record before and after November 2009
  Played Won Drawn Lost win-% Teams lost to
Before England series 26 23 1 2 88% Australia
Since England series 8 4 0 4 50% Australia, England, New Zealand, Pakistan

The Indian batsmen haven't fared particularly well playing against South Africa in ODIs away from home. MS Dhoni is the top scorer with 214 runs at 23.77 from nine innings, while Rohit Sharma's five innings here have yielded just 49 runs and a top score of 23. Yuvraj Singh averages 16.66 from nine matches and has only one fifty-plus score, and Suresh Raina, the other batsman in India's middleorder has scored a paltry 115 runs at 19.16 from six innings, and is yet to hit a fifty. Virat Kohli is the only batsman with some semblance of success: he has 193 runs at 48.25 from five innings with two fifties.

India batsmen against South Africa in South Africa
Batsman Mat Inns NO Runs Ave HS 100s 50s
MS Dhoni 9 9 0 214 23.77 55 0 1
Virat Kohli 5 5 1 193 48.25 87* 0 2
Yuvraj Singh 9 9 0 150 16.66 53 0 1
Suresh Raina 6 6 0 115 19.16 37 0 0
Rohit Sharma 5 5 0 49 9.80 23 0 0

South Africa's batsmen have had reasonable success playing against India at home. Jacques Kallis has hit 519 runs against India from 11 innings at 64.00. Hashim Amla and JP Duminy, both average more than 60 against India playing in South Africa. South Africa captain Ab de Villiers' however has only a disappointing 119 at 22.80 from five innings. But these numbers may not mean much considering that since their last series against India at home, he has scored 835 ODI runs - the highest by any South Africa batsman - at 83.50 in South Africa.

South Africa batsmen against India in ODIs at home
Batsman Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100s 50s
Jacques Kallis 12 11 3 512 119* 64.00 1 2
AB de Villiers 9 9 1 289 92* 36.12 0 2
Hashim Amla 5 5 1 250 116* 62.50 1 2
JP Duminy 5 5 1 244 73 61.00 0 3
Graeme Smith 9 9 0 236 79 26.22 0 2
Faf du Plessis 3 3 0 69 60 23.00 0 1
David Miller 2 2 0 36 27 18.00 0 0

South Africa's bowlers have clearly had the better of Indian batsmen ny playing on pace-friendly conditions in home. Lonwabo Tsotsobe, Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel, all average less than 20 against India in South Africa. Tsotsobe is the leading wicket-taker- 13 wickets at 13.53 with two four-fors in five matches.

South Africa bowlers against India in ODIs at home
Bowler Mat Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4w  5w 
Lonwabo Tsotsobe 5 13 4/22 13.53 4.19 19.3 2 0
Morne Morkel 5 12 4/52 11.41 3.70 18.5 1 0
Jacques Kallis 12 11 3/3 36.63 4.78 45.9 0 0
Dale Steyn 5 8 2/29 17.75 3.70 28.7 0 0

The current bowlers in the Indian team haven't had much experience playing against South Africa away from home, as Ishant Sharma and R Ashwin are the only full-time bowlers in the squad to have bowled in South Africa before. Yuvraj Singh is the highest wicket-taker for India with five wickets from six innings. Overall, Zaheer Khan - who is part of the Test-squad but doesn't find a place in the ODI-squad - is the leading wicket-taker for India in South Africa with 15 wickets at 27 apiece from nine matches.

India bowlers against South Africa in South Africa
Bowler Mat Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 
Yuvraj Singh 9 5 3/34 34.60 4.80 43.2 0 0
Rohit Sharma 5 3 2/30 22.33 4.78 28.0 0 0
Suresh Raina 6 1 1/21 82.00 5.12 96.0 0 0

India are starting their campaign at the venue where they beat South Africa the last time they played an ODI here. India may also get encouragement from the fact that the New Wanderers Stadium in Johannesburg is the venue where South Africa have one of their worst win-loss records at home in ODIs.

Shiva Jayaraman is a sub-editor (stats) at ESPNcricinfo.com

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  • on December 7, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Bcci have to also focus on bowling area....

  • chukki364 on December 5, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    Wait......First of all tell captain of indian team MSD that average should be bettered by scoring runs when the match is quite open,neither by returning not out,nor by scoring runs when the result gets clear.Absolutely...Have a look at his averages simply(not considering not outs) and then with not outs,the difference is a great 16,considering he usually goes out for batting,india's percentage of winning is not that much high,and he has not won man of the matches for a good no. of times,even then when he is a finisher and has such a high average.

  • on December 5, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    Getting the Batting order right is going to be vital as India plans for WC'15. With Aus pitches bouncing; there should be no place for Yuvraj & Raina. Also, Kohli is the heartbeat of this batting unit and needs to be at #4; not #3 where he'll be vulnerable to the new ball. And finally; get Rohit out of the Opening spot. It was an experiment that worked and helped his confidence but he's born for the middle order. You'll also need Pujara - can't drop a batter of his class for ODIs - same mistake as was done with Laxman a decade back (thes guys are fast scores in Tests!) Order: Dhawan, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni, Jadeja

  • hagar009 on December 5, 2013, 16:14 GMT

    a little bounce on wicket and facing fast bowlers... Indians again proved them as pathetic as ever on matches away from home....

  • on December 5, 2013, 11:16 GMT

    @EnglishCricket : That's a ridiculous statement.You cannot consider the entire population to be as privileged as the ones who are bred over a decade as in England. We try to make the best of the resources available and they are the TOP batsmen . The world knows it. I do not think England will ever have talents like Sachin, Ganguly ,Dravid ,Laxman and many more who are still marching on that footpath and humble by nature as well.

  • on December 5, 2013, 11:13 GMT

    I think people forgot the India team performance in Chmapions trophy and that too in England .. I know the Indian teams record in South Africa is not good but that also includes matches when India were not Good tourists.. I want Indian team to put a great show and win theis series...Even if you guys remember last test series drew 1 -1 the 3rd test match which was draw Indian team had better chance to win that..so guys please refrain from sayitn that south Africa can beat India easily...

  • sidh78 on December 5, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    dear peter jones india win CB series in australia defeat australia wich have players like ponting clarke hayden gilchirst symomd lee in two straight finals.if pitches are flat and ground are small then why not aus win in india.plz check avg. of ponting india beloe 30 in so called easy conditions

  • on December 5, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    @brad...let us see...

  • on December 5, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    Good luck for indians..They will definitely cry after this series..

  • sandeep0701 on December 5, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    I know India's record in SA is very poor. But after watching current performance of Indian team, this time India will definitely do well and win the series as we have done in other countries also.

  • on December 7, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Bcci have to also focus on bowling area....

  • chukki364 on December 5, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    Wait......First of all tell captain of indian team MSD that average should be bettered by scoring runs when the match is quite open,neither by returning not out,nor by scoring runs when the result gets clear.Absolutely...Have a look at his averages simply(not considering not outs) and then with not outs,the difference is a great 16,considering he usually goes out for batting,india's percentage of winning is not that much high,and he has not won man of the matches for a good no. of times,even then when he is a finisher and has such a high average.

  • on December 5, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    Getting the Batting order right is going to be vital as India plans for WC'15. With Aus pitches bouncing; there should be no place for Yuvraj & Raina. Also, Kohli is the heartbeat of this batting unit and needs to be at #4; not #3 where he'll be vulnerable to the new ball. And finally; get Rohit out of the Opening spot. It was an experiment that worked and helped his confidence but he's born for the middle order. You'll also need Pujara - can't drop a batter of his class for ODIs - same mistake as was done with Laxman a decade back (thes guys are fast scores in Tests!) Order: Dhawan, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni, Jadeja

  • hagar009 on December 5, 2013, 16:14 GMT

    a little bounce on wicket and facing fast bowlers... Indians again proved them as pathetic as ever on matches away from home....

  • on December 5, 2013, 11:16 GMT

    @EnglishCricket : That's a ridiculous statement.You cannot consider the entire population to be as privileged as the ones who are bred over a decade as in England. We try to make the best of the resources available and they are the TOP batsmen . The world knows it. I do not think England will ever have talents like Sachin, Ganguly ,Dravid ,Laxman and many more who are still marching on that footpath and humble by nature as well.

  • on December 5, 2013, 11:13 GMT

    I think people forgot the India team performance in Chmapions trophy and that too in England .. I know the Indian teams record in South Africa is not good but that also includes matches when India were not Good tourists.. I want Indian team to put a great show and win theis series...Even if you guys remember last test series drew 1 -1 the 3rd test match which was draw Indian team had better chance to win that..so guys please refrain from sayitn that south Africa can beat India easily...

  • sidh78 on December 5, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    dear peter jones india win CB series in australia defeat australia wich have players like ponting clarke hayden gilchirst symomd lee in two straight finals.if pitches are flat and ground are small then why not aus win in india.plz check avg. of ponting india beloe 30 in so called easy conditions

  • on December 5, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    @brad...let us see...

  • on December 5, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    Good luck for indians..They will definitely cry after this series..

  • sandeep0701 on December 5, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    I know India's record in SA is very poor. But after watching current performance of Indian team, this time India will definitely do well and win the series as we have done in other countries also.

  • EnglishCricket on December 5, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    India are an overrated team. Compared to other teams they have the biggest advantage of choosing the best players from well over a billion people hence so called 'top' batsman.

  • vxttemp on December 5, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    @throughthelense: What do u mean by a good wicket? For all Nadal fans, French open red clay is the best surface for Tennis, for all becker/sampras/federer fans winbledon grass(not the latest grass which is not fast anymore) is the best.. Before commenting on Sachin, go to youtube and watch his dismissals in SA. Most of them will be because of brilliant catches and not Sachin got beaten by those deliveries, secondly brilliant captaincy by Cronje(In fact Hansie himself got Sachin's wicket few times). Another time he got out was to Allan Donald, Sachin scores two brilliant boundaries and then Donald will come up with a monster delivery that beats Sachin(Sachin tries to defend that as per batting definition- This used to be shows in so many commercials leading up to a series by the broadcasters :-))

  • vxttemp on December 5, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Though I support India, I still do not believe we can win this series. I hope players are thinking the other way :-) I've seen how we have fared in SA conditions all these years. Of course this is a new generation, let them re-write the history. There were few close matches and few times where we were on top but couldn't get rid of the SA tail and went on losing matches. Specially one match where 3rd umpire was present and the on-field umpire didn't refer where Jonty rhodes was run-out by a meter, meter and half, he bailed SA out of that match. Let us see how this one goes :-)

  • vxttemp on December 5, 2013, 8:46 GMT

    I think BCCI should wake up and do certain things to improve cricket. Not sure, what Sachin, Saurav, Dravid, Laxman and Kumble are doing. I think the best way for India is to prepare certain bouncy tracks and then all the domestic matches should be equally distributed on Spin and pace tracks. Even IPL also, they should ensure 50% on spinning tracks and 50% on pace tracks. This way, Indians can gain experience playing Steyn, Johnson in IPL. Though I was happy when Johnson/Malinga bowled those bouncers to Raina, it still tells that we have weakness in that department.

  • vxttemp on December 5, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    Stats are really poor. Hope they will improve stats. No wonder why Indians are called flat track bullies. I for one, never rated Ponting above certain others just becoz he was not that good in India. I think only late in his career he scored some runs in India. Good players should be able to play on all surfaces.. Just that others can not play on spin tracks doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse for our short comings on seaming conditions.

  • on December 5, 2013, 8:38 GMT

    India is no longer the same India with hyped up stars (exception is Kohli who's again being hyped like next Richards, next Sachin etc.. irritating most of 'cricket' fans around the world). But India haven't done badly from 2011. They were leading 2-1 in the last series in SA and remaining 2 were won by SA very well but rain-DL also helped. India haven't reached to a Pak level which can surprise anybody anyday + with great bowling, or to a ruthless Aussie level for whom conditions does not matter. India are on the right track (except for people like Raina who doesn't want to try against short balls) and Indian bowlers aren't bad either. Discipline in the field can win matches for India in this series. Not every batsman in the world play short ball well (except only a very few), but they are not criticized because they are NOT hyped. Every bowler and batsman and teams are heroes on one-day zeroes another day, hence present is what India should look at, select the right team.

  • sweetspot on December 5, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    It's incredible how visiting batsmen, who are all champs at playing swinging grenades at home, can't score more than Indian batsmen on flat tracks! Maybe they freeze up when the ball comes straight and sits up to be hit? Maybe they are afraid of succeeding?

  • on December 5, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    Let see what our guys (India) do. Watching cricket from 1993, I say toss is always crucial in Ind vs SA matches. Coming to AB De vil every one praise him, I say he is no good when there is some thing in the pitch for bowlers and SA can never dominate in World cricket. They (SA) are always a good team but no use. India looks so weak in bowling but we win because we have Dhoni. With out Kallis I would say SA would have lost many times against India and others. Also every one have home advantage. Aus, Eng or SA they have very few grounds and if u keep playing in the same grounds any one can score. Other hand in India we have 35+ int. grounds. If you sent Yuvi in Rajkot on any day he can score 100. Thanks.

  • sweetspot on December 5, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    Who cares about the past? Nobody gave India a chance in the 1983 WC either. Those were the true underdogs. India won, didn't it? Whatever the claims of greatness may be, SA haven't won anything on the world stage - ever. India has a far richer harvest. This India team has every right to feel confident and play positively. Haters would love to see India lose, of course, but that is the fact of any top team.

  • xpressmusic26 on December 5, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    I believe in odi these stats does nt matter much....real test'll b test ckt only & it should hav been atleast 3 match affair

  • jerseyno.10 on December 5, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    the likes of Steyne,morkel and tsotsobe requires (green+bouncy+seamerfriendly)codition to look like what they are .if they are so good then why dont they have the same avg. in india

  • throughthelense on December 5, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    Forget about these batsmen, look at the average of Sachin Tendulkar in South Africa against South Africa. These are not hostile wickets but good cricket pitches. These guys are lords on flat tracks and cave in on good pitches. Advantage South Africa.

  • on December 5, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    I don't understand why people say Indian team can't bat in seaming conditions ..?? Where did 2007 T20 world cup took place..?? where was 2013 Champions trophy held..?? Where was 2003 ODI WC held.. where India reached finals...??

    Forget all these, why don't people say... Aus & SA ....so on can't play on Indian Rank turners ..??

    I even remember a test against SA in india which got completed in 3 days ..!! It was a rank turner...!! I even remember there was a complaint against the pitch.. rather than admitting their inability..!!

    If the pitch is Flat and ground has small boundaries, are the pitches and length of boundaries changed when the other team comes to bat..??

    Seriously people are jealous..!!

  • crzcric on December 5, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    These batsmans are no match for the likes of Steyne,morkel and tsotsobe.

  • Ashrit365 on December 5, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    champions trophy 2013 india won in england .T20 world cup india won it in south africa with a very very inexperienced side.now with this experienced side its easy to win a series in south africa

  • balaji28 on December 5, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    The ugly truth is that southafrica haven't yet played the new bowling combo of ashwin,jaddu,bhuvi and shami. Present batting line up is extraordinary except the poor form of raina and yuvi. Even ashwin is a good batsmen if it is a seaming and bouncy track.Let's hope for the best and the above stats just creates panic buyt the reality is different.

  • Taha_Farrukh on December 5, 2013, 6:45 GMT

    Well the above mentioned statics shows clearly Indian poor batting performance and worst bowling attach out side their Cave (India) not even a single Indian Batsman even SKT score a hundred.... this is reality that india again going to white wash and only able to play on flat home tracks...that it

  • on December 5, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    the strange thing about the Indian team management is they are foolishly persistent in keeping the same playing xi until they get one or two humiliating thrashes. This has happened in the case of Ishant Sharma.They will do the same with Yuvaraj and Raina.Why don't they try Rayudu and Rahane instead?

  • on December 5, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    I think this stats don't say the entire story. Especially rohit's avg. he was asked to open all of a sudden when sachin left midway b4 WC. This time around he will feel more confident & determined given he has pretty much settled. And not to forget dhawan who's always plays one way-attack. India should take confidence from their CT TROPHY ENCOUNTER when the indian openers defalted the SA bowlers. I THINK STATS WILL BE CHANGED IN FORTNIGHT.

  • alipk52 on December 5, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    @Ashwinner on bases of previous records, I said all that, Indian batsman do fails to deliver more often than not in seaming conditions, but they've to forget their past home series where they managed 300+ regularly, yes there maybe batting friendly tracks here in SA, but the main issue is bowling, I know indian batsman can play steyn more easily , but they have to work harder here than they did in India under batting friendly conditions :)

  • alipk52 on December 5, 2013, 3:51 GMT

    @boomslanger obviously I will praise India, don't take my comments as personal mate, I am favouring the team I like the most that's without any doubt, South Africa is always my favourite team, I know india are favourites to win this at this moment despite the poor averages in past, this indian team will be tested though if condition will be bowling friendly :)

    @SaiWare what's the point of mentioning Pakistan here? I don't understand, please have patience and read my first comment once again, I favour SA coz I like this team, so what does Pakistan have anything to do with it? :s

  • thunda.masala on December 5, 2013, 3:46 GMT

    Oh Man! I like the shouting match here in comments more than the cricket on the hostile environments. Go guys!!!

  • jimbond on December 5, 2013, 1:02 GMT

    Two aspects that selectors may look into- Rohit Sharma's batting average and Ashwin's bowling performance. They are performing well now and could be key to the team's performance, but if they continue in the same vein (as their previous SA performances) for the first and second match, it may be useful to look for alternatives. However Rohit Sharma seems to be contributing as a bowler here!

  • Kirk_Levin on December 4, 2013, 23:09 GMT

    India is a average team at best ay. They play well at home, on small grounds and flat wickets. But put them on a pitch with some seam movement and bounce, they will crumble. That's why they have yet to win a test series in Aussie or even a ODI series in Aussies for a long time. India has a very poor win ratio overseas. GO SA.

  • on December 4, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    after the bundling out; india will wonder if sachin retired too soon

  • Greatest_Game on December 4, 2013, 22:56 GMT

    The Wanderers is ALSO where SA chased 434 - a record no one has come close to! Conveniently, the above analysis starts in 2008, & discounts SA's previous better record at the venue.

  • Ashwinner on December 4, 2013, 22:42 GMT

    The whole thing boils down to whatever Alipk52 is assuming to be true..whether Dhawan,Kohli,Sharma,Dhoni and Pujara(in tests) will be cowed down by the quality SA pacers and struggle..however I have faith in the current form of these indian batsmen..if they win this battle,that is,if form defeats "home advantage"..India will have a great chance to win the ODI series. In test matches, SA's gonna be a much greater force...I just hope Pujara,Kohli or Vijay has the capablility to play long innings,or we'll go to the dogs. I have no confidence in Yuvraj and Raina right now..they seem to be struggling and most probably will continue to..

  • Nampally on December 4, 2013, 22:05 GMT

    Considering the low batting averages of Yuvraj & Raina, it is surprising that both are in the XI. The ideal #4 would have been Pujara. But for the reasons best known to the Selectors he is excluded. India needed a sheet anchor like Pujara. Rohit Sharma & Kohli have both turned round the corner & are expected to be the leading batsmen along with Dhawan. Yuvraj. Raina & Dhoni have all problem with their footwork. Either Yuvraj or Raina could have given way to Rahane with better footwork. Alternately Ashwin, with excellent footwork, could have batted #4 so that the other 3 can be "Finishers". As regards improving their averages, I am sure Kohli, Dhoni & Rohit may be able to. I am not so sure about others listed. Good luck to team India.

  • on December 4, 2013, 21:42 GMT

    i didn't remember when SA beat India in test series comprehensively in SA recently. The last two series, India won test matches whenever they play on green tops. India lost series 2-1 in 2007 after wining first test and close to winning test series last time India visited SA in 2010. In 2007 SA was bundled out for 84... in the green top... its funny when people till talk about India can't play pace ,bounce and all that.

  • SaiWare on December 4, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    Mr/Ms. alipk52,

    If Pakistan can defeat SA (including Steyn,Morkel,Philander,Tsotsobe ) then India is much better team than Pak. SA will have hard time facing India this time.

  • boomslanger on December 4, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    @lipk52 Good for you! and I shall back Netherland all the way... To each his own disease. I wonder if you'll be around to congratulate India when/if they win? Steyn, Phillander & Morkel and, even Kallis are spent forces, yesterday's heroes. South Africa shall need fresh bowlers like Imran Tahir and all rounders like Ryan McLaren to show some fight. They recently lost a series to Pakistan who have about two batsmen in their team. Does not speak too well of the South African bowling. eh?

  • Al_Bundy1 on December 4, 2013, 20:39 GMT

    Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should do well against Indian batsmen. Raina and Jadeja will be sitting ducks for SA pacemen. I expect Shami and Bhuvi to do well in helpful conditions. We could use services of a pace bowling all rounder like Rishi Dhawan or Irfan Pathan (if fully fit)

  • IndCricFan2013 on December 4, 2013, 19:29 GMT

    There will be 6 playing first ODI for India in SA. (2 Shikhar Dhawan + 5 bowlers, 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuveshwar Kumar, 10 Mohammad Shami, 11 Mohit Sharma). Yuvi with 22, MSD 12, Raina 9, Kohli 8 and Rohit 5 ODIs totaling 56 ODIs experience in SA scoring 1114 runs in total at an average of 20 runs per ODI, marginally increasing to 22 runs per ODI, if you do not count the not outs. Records does not mean anything, otherwise India would be all out for 20+ runs.

  • alipk52 on December 4, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    I will be backing South Africa all the way, just hope SA will have Steyn, Morkel available in all the games, their 3 premier combination in bowling Steyn, Phillander & Morkel in both test, and Indian batsman will be done and dusted fair and square, Go SA!

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  • alipk52 on December 4, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    I will be backing South Africa all the way, just hope SA will have Steyn, Morkel available in all the games, their 3 premier combination in bowling Steyn, Phillander & Morkel in both test, and Indian batsman will be done and dusted fair and square, Go SA!

  • IndCricFan2013 on December 4, 2013, 19:29 GMT

    There will be 6 playing first ODI for India in SA. (2 Shikhar Dhawan + 5 bowlers, 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuveshwar Kumar, 10 Mohammad Shami, 11 Mohit Sharma). Yuvi with 22, MSD 12, Raina 9, Kohli 8 and Rohit 5 ODIs totaling 56 ODIs experience in SA scoring 1114 runs in total at an average of 20 runs per ODI, marginally increasing to 22 runs per ODI, if you do not count the not outs. Records does not mean anything, otherwise India would be all out for 20+ runs.

  • Al_Bundy1 on December 4, 2013, 20:39 GMT

    Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should do well against Indian batsmen. Raina and Jadeja will be sitting ducks for SA pacemen. I expect Shami and Bhuvi to do well in helpful conditions. We could use services of a pace bowling all rounder like Rishi Dhawan or Irfan Pathan (if fully fit)

  • boomslanger on December 4, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    @lipk52 Good for you! and I shall back Netherland all the way... To each his own disease. I wonder if you'll be around to congratulate India when/if they win? Steyn, Phillander & Morkel and, even Kallis are spent forces, yesterday's heroes. South Africa shall need fresh bowlers like Imran Tahir and all rounders like Ryan McLaren to show some fight. They recently lost a series to Pakistan who have about two batsmen in their team. Does not speak too well of the South African bowling. eh?

  • SaiWare on December 4, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    Mr/Ms. alipk52,

    If Pakistan can defeat SA (including Steyn,Morkel,Philander,Tsotsobe ) then India is much better team than Pak. SA will have hard time facing India this time.

  • on December 4, 2013, 21:42 GMT

    i didn't remember when SA beat India in test series comprehensively in SA recently. The last two series, India won test matches whenever they play on green tops. India lost series 2-1 in 2007 after wining first test and close to winning test series last time India visited SA in 2010. In 2007 SA was bundled out for 84... in the green top... its funny when people till talk about India can't play pace ,bounce and all that.

  • Nampally on December 4, 2013, 22:05 GMT

    Considering the low batting averages of Yuvraj & Raina, it is surprising that both are in the XI. The ideal #4 would have been Pujara. But for the reasons best known to the Selectors he is excluded. India needed a sheet anchor like Pujara. Rohit Sharma & Kohli have both turned round the corner & are expected to be the leading batsmen along with Dhawan. Yuvraj. Raina & Dhoni have all problem with their footwork. Either Yuvraj or Raina could have given way to Rahane with better footwork. Alternately Ashwin, with excellent footwork, could have batted #4 so that the other 3 can be "Finishers". As regards improving their averages, I am sure Kohli, Dhoni & Rohit may be able to. I am not so sure about others listed. Good luck to team India.

  • Ashwinner on December 4, 2013, 22:42 GMT

    The whole thing boils down to whatever Alipk52 is assuming to be true..whether Dhawan,Kohli,Sharma,Dhoni and Pujara(in tests) will be cowed down by the quality SA pacers and struggle..however I have faith in the current form of these indian batsmen..if they win this battle,that is,if form defeats "home advantage"..India will have a great chance to win the ODI series. In test matches, SA's gonna be a much greater force...I just hope Pujara,Kohli or Vijay has the capablility to play long innings,or we'll go to the dogs. I have no confidence in Yuvraj and Raina right now..they seem to be struggling and most probably will continue to..

  • Greatest_Game on December 4, 2013, 22:56 GMT

    The Wanderers is ALSO where SA chased 434 - a record no one has come close to! Conveniently, the above analysis starts in 2008, & discounts SA's previous better record at the venue.

  • on December 4, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    after the bundling out; india will wonder if sachin retired too soon