The Ashes 2010-11 December 11, 2010

MacGill slams selection panel

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Stuart MacGill, the former Australian Test legspinner, has slammed the decision of his country's selectors to call up Michael Beer, a slow left-armer who has played just five first-class games, for the third Ashes Test at Perth next week.

"I am gobsmacked, shocked, I honestly cannot believe it," MacGill told Sydney's Daily Telegraph. "The team will have to change again after the next Test. Good on Michael Beer, good bloke and good player, but look at this as a job interview and show me his qualifications to get this job. He doesn't have any. He is not qualified for the job they have given him. Sending him out there next week, what are they trying to do?"

MacGill, who played 44 Tests before his retirement in 2008, reserved particular criticism for comments made by Andrew Hilditch, the selection panel chairman.

"To be honest, from Andrew Hilditch's comments, he doesn't even really know who Michael Beer is. He said he'll bowl well in Perth because it's his home ground. I'm not sure Andrew thought those comments through before he made them.

"Look, Andrew Hilditch is a lovely bloke but someone needs to tell him Michael Beer has not spent his career playing at the WACA. Three games there and nothing better than a three-for. Honestly, there is no big picture here."

MacGill's criticism comes after left-arm spinner, Xavier Doherty, who was axed after the first two Tests, said the selectors were panicking when it came to picking slow bowlers. MacGill also expressed his dismay at the discarding of Nathan Hauritz, who has taken 63 wickets in 17 Tests, hit a maiden first-class hundred as a nightwatchman against South Australia on Wednesday and picked up a five-wicket haul in his last domestic game in Perth.

"Xavier Doherty was [an odd inclusion] too, to be honest. They are clearly telling Nathan Hauritz, 'you are never playing Test cricket again'. I don't understand that. Xavier Doherty should never have played the first two Tests. Michael Beer shouldn't be playing this one."

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  • POSTED BY on | December 16, 2010, 7:26 GMT

    i agree with u stuart ... hauritz should have played from the star... it also sends wrong signals to the hauritz that they dont have much confidence in him... just want to want what made you retire in middle of the series in westides were selectors to be blamed for that????

  • POSTED BY Keith2011 on | December 14, 2010, 5:31 GMT

    Picking Michael Beer..I think the selectors were on "too much beer"..they were trying to reach for their favourite brand of beer from the shelf instead of thinking carefully to choose the right spinner for the cricket Test...but hang on I recall Shane Warne remarking to give Michael Beer a chance after the Adelaide Test, so that could be it.. but we all know what Shane is up to lately: too much beer and.....

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 22:57 GMT

    What ever the reason,i do not want to see this as no cricket fan wants to be.whatever the process the selectors may follow the number of gambles they r taking is increasing day to day...and this can actually happen the ausies ending up the ashes not winning a single game!....

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 21:24 GMT

    Looks like Cricket Australia is headed by Mr. Ijaz Butt..!

  • POSTED BY joeythekangaroo2 on | December 13, 2010, 15:36 GMT

    This makes me want to support a different team. Is it too late to start supporting Afghanistan? 2011 World Cup here we come!

  • POSTED BY A_J.. on | December 13, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    @Asif_Iqbal.. well said, bro; It's the tym, whn d 'Mighty' Australian Cricket World is sucked up of their successive failures, & der Fans, & Media is cricizing der own Team, & 'Legends' of the Game. In past, it is only said, that this Criticism, only happens in Pajistan, India, & in other Indian Sub-Continental Teams; but now dey r suffering the same Traught, in der own back-yard.. . How-evr, 4m her; they may win d Ashes, or e1 d World Cup, nxt Year; bt dis type of 'BLAME-GAME', is blowing up der own Images & Reputation, among d Other Sides, & d World..

  • POSTED BY Asif_Iqbal on | December 13, 2010, 8:41 GMT

    Thanks God I thought this is only happen in Pakitan

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 8:36 GMT

    not bad.really wanna see what happen in 3rd test

  • POSTED BY azzaman333 on | December 13, 2010, 8:01 GMT

    The whole selection process is a joke. Johnson comes back despite doing nothing to suggest he's back in form, Bollinger being played in Adelaide despite being unfit, considering dropping Siddle despite him being the only bowler whose bowled a couple of truly threatening spells, picking Beer who couldn't even get a game in Victoria because McGain and Holland were ahead of him, and that's just the bowling issues.

    Selection has been a massive weakness for Australia for years, only now due to Ponting and Clarke's poor form with the bat and teams figuring out how to bat against Johnson has it really affected our results.

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    Australians have picked little known spinners before Beer, and they have done quite well. Two names come to my mind. Peter Taylor was picked against West Indies in the early 90s, and 'Funky' Miller in late 90s. Both did quite well.

  • POSTED BY on | December 16, 2010, 7:26 GMT

    i agree with u stuart ... hauritz should have played from the star... it also sends wrong signals to the hauritz that they dont have much confidence in him... just want to want what made you retire in middle of the series in westides were selectors to be blamed for that????

  • POSTED BY Keith2011 on | December 14, 2010, 5:31 GMT

    Picking Michael Beer..I think the selectors were on "too much beer"..they were trying to reach for their favourite brand of beer from the shelf instead of thinking carefully to choose the right spinner for the cricket Test...but hang on I recall Shane Warne remarking to give Michael Beer a chance after the Adelaide Test, so that could be it.. but we all know what Shane is up to lately: too much beer and.....

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 22:57 GMT

    What ever the reason,i do not want to see this as no cricket fan wants to be.whatever the process the selectors may follow the number of gambles they r taking is increasing day to day...and this can actually happen the ausies ending up the ashes not winning a single game!....

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 21:24 GMT

    Looks like Cricket Australia is headed by Mr. Ijaz Butt..!

  • POSTED BY joeythekangaroo2 on | December 13, 2010, 15:36 GMT

    This makes me want to support a different team. Is it too late to start supporting Afghanistan? 2011 World Cup here we come!

  • POSTED BY A_J.. on | December 13, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    @Asif_Iqbal.. well said, bro; It's the tym, whn d 'Mighty' Australian Cricket World is sucked up of their successive failures, & der Fans, & Media is cricizing der own Team, & 'Legends' of the Game. In past, it is only said, that this Criticism, only happens in Pajistan, India, & in other Indian Sub-Continental Teams; but now dey r suffering the same Traught, in der own back-yard.. . How-evr, 4m her; they may win d Ashes, or e1 d World Cup, nxt Year; bt dis type of 'BLAME-GAME', is blowing up der own Images & Reputation, among d Other Sides, & d World..

  • POSTED BY Asif_Iqbal on | December 13, 2010, 8:41 GMT

    Thanks God I thought this is only happen in Pakitan

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 8:36 GMT

    not bad.really wanna see what happen in 3rd test

  • POSTED BY azzaman333 on | December 13, 2010, 8:01 GMT

    The whole selection process is a joke. Johnson comes back despite doing nothing to suggest he's back in form, Bollinger being played in Adelaide despite being unfit, considering dropping Siddle despite him being the only bowler whose bowled a couple of truly threatening spells, picking Beer who couldn't even get a game in Victoria because McGain and Holland were ahead of him, and that's just the bowling issues.

    Selection has been a massive weakness for Australia for years, only now due to Ponting and Clarke's poor form with the bat and teams figuring out how to bat against Johnson has it really affected our results.

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    Australians have picked little known spinners before Beer, and they have done quite well. Two names come to my mind. Peter Taylor was picked against West Indies in the early 90s, and 'Funky' Miller in late 90s. Both did quite well.

  • POSTED BY AndrewFromOz on | December 13, 2010, 4:12 GMT

    What probably happened was the selectors were meeting and one got thirsty and said: "Lets have a beer". The other selectors all cried: "Brilliant idea!"

    And here we are...

  • POSTED BY seanck on | December 13, 2010, 3:49 GMT

    MCGILL doesn't know what he's talking about and seems like he is jealous about the young man Michael Beer, and same time he forgot about that he is old and he cannot perform any more. This is completely jealousy comment. MCGILL answer to this questions MAN. 1. Are you really a SPORTSMAN? How you know that Michael Beer not gonna perform (third Ashes Test at Perth next week)? Do you think that you are a PERFECTIONIST? I think Australian selection panel knows what they are doing. I can't see any fault of the selection of Beer. I think you you don't like to see AUSTRALIANS are winning. I am talking about the human psychology. you are not part of the Australian team any more and PLEASE LEAVE THEM ALONE mind your own business MCGILL.

  • POSTED BY Okakaboka on | December 12, 2010, 23:58 GMT

    Would people stop suggesting Krejza. He is not a good bowler. The only reason he got all those wickets on that mega Indian flat track was because the Indian Batsman were having a contest to see who could hit his juicy little meat pies the furthest. The South Africans ate him up and had him for breakfast! In all seriousness......we are losing the plot. Australia went for years with ordinary spinners who just pick up 1 or 2 victims an innings. Ashley Mallet, Terry Jenner, Holland, Taylor, Bright, O'keefe.......not exactly match winners. Geez, just pick one guy who can bat a bit and stick to him.....O'keefe or Hauritz.....whatever....and focus on getting the quicks right. To the blogger who suggested Mackay....he is a very good bowler...can bowl all day but Durr Brain Hilditch won't pick him because he suffers from Victorianitis. (2 Victorians in a test team isn't test cricket......yeah okay....Meowwwwwwww!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 23:57 GMT

    Besides the drama and dilemma of a slow bowler in a test side, I did not expect to see this day, this soon coming from down under out of all the test playing nations. Clearly represents the panic that has struck the ranks of a board who until recently took pride in owning an impeccable bench strength !!! I am not complaining though :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 23:52 GMT

    The master stroke here would be to pick Beer, then have the WACA made into a bouncy green top & play 4 quicks + Smith for a bit of spin relief. England have an injured broad & a jetlagged Anderson. Their B team struggled against Victoria, its a hail mary but maybe we put our faith in our quicks once there is some juice in the pitch for them to use.

  • POSTED BY Iceborn999 on | December 12, 2010, 23:08 GMT

    Another brilliant decision by Andrew Hilditch and co.... good on ya fellas....

  • POSTED BY Meety on | December 12, 2010, 23:02 GMT

    Loved the way Stuey use to sing his own hymes, he is just carrying on his bias of Red Wine over Beer - Haha! I wish Stuey was 5 yrs younger, he had a better s/r then Warne 54 v 57 yet only played 40 odd tests. I think Oz would be at the top of the rankings if he was still around playing. As for the current situation, Beer's selection only becomes a shocker if he plays, (not commenting on Hilditch's pizz-weak comments on Beer though). Oz has to be going to play a prong pace attack + Watto & Smith. I am not a fan of 4 prong pace attacks - it backfired in England & against India @ the WACA. Under domestic rules in Oz - if a player is called up in the test team during a Shield game - he can be replaced with a like player. I think O'Keefe should be loaned out to another State side so selectors can have a look at him more. He plays for Oz A - does well with bat & ball, & now can't even get a go with NSW. All due respects to Henriques - he is a talent, but O'Keefe should be playing instead.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 21:44 GMT

    To people saying that Beer could get Man of the Match, while thats true, its more disturbing that the selectors are getting rid of bowlers for having a bad game or 2. I think its even highlighted more by the fact, the spinner is getting changed regularly, but other guys seemingly get 10 Tests to prove they are out of form.

  • POSTED BY smudgeon on | December 12, 2010, 21:09 GMT

    @SachBro & @Dilip Senth - agreed, Krejza is a good attacking spinner who deserved a decent opportunity to prove his quality (or lack of). Every bowler has good matches and bad matches, I would have thought 12 wickets on debut (despite the 300+ runs!) would have been a clear indication that he was worth spending the time on. Anyways, Krejza isn't always first choice in the Tassie side these days, so he's well off the radar.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | December 12, 2010, 20:52 GMT

    @BlueyCollar - you are sooo right! I love the game and I want my boy to play for England one day. Elite sport has its own rewards - I personally don't think 20-20 cultivates good tough cricketers - but that's where the rewards seem to be these days. It's hard to say whether 20-20 has caused or is an effect of the gradual decline of Test cricket. I HAVE bought my boy some pads for Christmas. The other thing he wants is the Ashes.....! Dear Santa......

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    Hope Aussie selection has to consider a Indian as bowling coach for SPIN!

  • POSTED BY piyavi on | December 12, 2010, 18:49 GMT

    A record book does not say everything and I can't see any significant fault of the selection of Beer. I really do believe that Aussies need some 'out of the box thinking' right now… they must win 2 of the next 3 matches to regain Ashes. A steal mate would be a psychological failure for roos at the world cup in sub continent.

  • POSTED BY Pjprabhu on | December 12, 2010, 18:13 GMT

    Its not clear why the Aussie selectors r including players like Doherty and Beer when they have Hauritz and Steven Smith a leg spinner in the squad who haver intl exp. Hauritz should not be counted out bcoz he had a bad series in India. Even Shane Warne n Muralidharan have not had good games in India. Hauritz and Steven Smith needs to be given more opportunities before they decide to go with other spinners..

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 17:53 GMT

    HEY MATES, DUN BLAME OZ SELECTERS BUT "THE GREAT SHANE WARNE".... HE CAME UP WITH AN IDIA THAT THEY CAN PICK BEER AS HE IS A LOCAL GUY................... PLEASE SOME BODY TELL WARNE THAT U R LEGEND OF CRICKET, DUN MAKE ANY COMMENTS UNTIL U R NOT SURE ABOUT THEIR STRENGTH.... OTHERWISE CRICKETERS AND AUTHORITIES WILL KEEP FOLLOWING UR WORDS AS ROLE MODEL'S WORDS ... AND FOR SURE, OZ CRICKET WILL SUFFER .........................GOD BLESS

  • POSTED BY SachBro on | December 12, 2010, 17:51 GMT

    Where the hell is Jason Kreja. the lad had tons of talent. Atleast he got the basics right, good and simple action, never afraid to flight a ball, something most spinners, including Indian dont do these days. And most importantly of them all, he had a big heart, you need that in a spinner.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 17:46 GMT

    MCGILL SAYS RUBBISH...SEE FOR SELECTION U DONT NEDD TO HAVE PICKED A LOT OF WICKETS OR HAVE TO PLAY A LOT OF GAMES ..U MAY NOT KNOW MIKE BEER COULD SHOW HIS BEST PERFORMANCE HE COULD BE THE MAN OF THE MATCHE TOO

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 16:41 GMT

    The australian selectors have not been under pressure for more than a decade > now that they are under pressure they do not know what to do and are putting in experinced players into the team

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    Australia should now play only against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Newzealand - if they want to win a test. I think it is going to be difficult against Bangladesh as well.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 15:54 GMT

    I have no clue what these Australian selectors are thinking....in one had they say some folks got no experience playing international matches and in the other hand they r picking players does'nt even have enuf 1st class experience....CA is in panic...big time panic...and I don't see any reason to bring Shane Warne back....its not end of the World....Back of my head it says...What ever goes ard will comes around.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 14:03 GMT

    BRING JASON Kreja back,he bowled superbly in India,troubled all indian players,even the great erapalli prasanna praised him.aussie selectors please read cric info you will get an idea about selecting players.

  • POSTED BY Micgyver on | December 12, 2010, 13:26 GMT

    Australia should be looking at picking a tough "steve waugh" like figure,you wont get any better then Steve O'keefe who will always step up to the plate.When the Aussie selectors realise this,our fans will have more confidence in our international team.

  • POSTED BY davidmoz on | December 12, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    McKay got 4 wickets against England at Melbourne, maybe they should pick him! :P

  • POSTED BY Micgyver on | December 12, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    I really do hope Beer does well,to begin with.For the immediate sake of Australia's Ashes desperate campaign.

  • POSTED BY K.A.K on | December 12, 2010, 12:46 GMT

    I agree with Mark Sculy:) it must have been a party at the selection comittee's meeting and they decided to have beer. Also one more idea for CA: If we desparately need a few good spinners, import them like England does.

  • POSTED BY Rockin_Sid on | December 12, 2010, 12:38 GMT

    Hauritz has been unfortunate. And truly speaking, Doherty doesn't deserve to be dropped so soon after having just won his place in the side. What if Beer gets a game at Perth and doesn't pick a wicket and/or go for plenty? Will the selectors go back to Hauritz or Doherty? Or someone else? Jeez! Cricket Australia seems to be in a big mess now!

  • POSTED BY danmcb on | December 12, 2010, 12:24 GMT

    Dunno what Nathan did to upset the selectors, but it's all good for England, I think.

  • POSTED BY WilliamFranklin on | December 12, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    26 and 5 first class matches?! oh dear.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    Yes, I agree 200% with Stuart McGill's views here, and I still feel that Nathan Hauritz is the best spinner that Australia has got at the moment!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 11:41 GMT

    I don't know what Aussie selectors want to show they should have tried this before this test series....The only thing they need to concentrate about their performance and their abillity

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 11:41 GMT

    Finally someone puts the blame where it belongs.Hilditch needs to be kicked out, not the spinners! :P

  • POSTED BY LALITHKURUWITA on | December 12, 2010, 11:14 GMT

    Everybody is talking about spin bowling, but I think Aus have problems in every department: fast Bowling, Batting, & even Fielding. T0 add the panic of selection. Morale is down and BEER is up.

  • POSTED BY Australia17594 on | December 12, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    Why isn't O'Keefe or Copeland in the team?? Both are brilliant for their Team but the selectors don't even choose any of them. Copeland same wickets amount of matches as MCgrath. O'Keefe, better bowling average than Hauritz, Beer, Krejza. Also can Bat better than these people.

    O'Keefe Took wickets against England so why not choose him?

  • POSTED BY Andy500265 on | December 12, 2010, 9:11 GMT

    I agree with this article. Xavier Doherty has one of the most appaling first-class records of any international spinner and Michael Beer is completely unqualified. They should either go with Hauritz (preferably) or Krejza. @Arush Dayal, Katich is injured.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 9:03 GMT

    I agree with MacGill as the team is not experienced a lot and Beer doesn't have any experience to play international cricket yet. I think England will win this Ashes due to Australian selectors' poor choices.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 8:19 GMT

    i agree generally with hodra99..i however think that good decisions can be made during home series as well and given the situation everyone should be tried out so that their abilities can be checked...i dont think smith is a good choice for alrounder and the aussies are going into a test match probably with a one day team/ theory/mind...s marsh has'nt been too successful in his outings in international cricket...by late next year who knows which bowlers will have done well...select the in form now...one decision that might be favorable is to tell ricky to consult hussey..clarke does not seem to have good captainship mind and might be replace ricky at three with hussey...ricky can bat at five...it should be obvious that rickys captainship days are over...they have been over for the last three years

  • POSTED BY s.alvi on | December 12, 2010, 8:10 GMT

    I think its not a rule that u have got to have a spinner. If u don't have one in the country whoz test match ready, go in with fast bowlers only, maybe they can turn the tables....i mean it's a better idea than picking guyz who hardly have any first class xperience or the ones who have hung up their boots long time back...

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 8:06 GMT

    true but they totlly forgot about a person who took 8 wickets in his first test JASON KREZJA and what about HAURITZ he is a good spinner austarlia should look back at their previous spinners and then choose some one at leats close to them

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    I can not wait for Wikileaks to bring out the selectors private docs, will the minutes of the meeting show that Merv Huges asked is anyone wanted a beer, everyone said yes and then by some miss heard event Beer gets into the team!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 7:35 GMT

    Australian selectors are right now confused. All they want is select a spinner perform directly or axed and out of contention straight way.

  • POSTED BY manasvi_lingam on | December 12, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    Where IS O'Keefe? Excellent bowler and very useful batsman, the perfect No. 8! And Smith at 7 and you have great balance.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 7:16 GMT

    Reminds me of the panicky selection policies in Pakistan...

  • POSTED BY BapiDas on | December 12, 2010, 7:08 GMT

    Let us reserve our criticisms for the moment and wait and see how the match at Perth turns out. Beer is an unknown quantity and the Englishmen may not be able to cope, who knows? It has happended in the past! It is perhaps not fair to assume that the Australian selectors are a bunch of idiots who do not know what they are dioing. As I say, let us wait and see. There is plenty of cricket still left in this series.

  • POSTED BY shamic on | December 12, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    The Australian board should have thought of this aspect long time ago,the spin department is very weak and after Shane,there has not being a match winning spin bowler that Australia has produced.

    Same problem with the sri lanka team,after Murali the bowling department is quite weak and its very difficult to get 20 wickets in a match for them too.

  • POSTED BY sportsfansav on | December 12, 2010, 6:43 GMT

    I think Australia are just in a panic mode because they're not used to this kind of uncertainty. They're a young team compared to what they used to be for a really long time in the late 1990s and most of 2000s. They should just stick with one team of 15 or so players and develop them. Agreed, they will face some tough times because they were used to staying at no. 1 for a long time, but only tough times can make you stronger.

  • POSTED BY Samar_Singh on | December 12, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    ha ha ha ... This proves the disaster in Aussies spin selection... Warne like players cannot be expected overnight...

  • POSTED BY Okakaboka on | December 12, 2010, 6:18 GMT

    To Kuruwita.....great...good luck...your country needs you....but....are you in NSW or are you a complete unknown? If you don't fit into one of these criteria...you have no chance of representing Australia. If you get into the NSW team..you are a dead cert....except if your surname is O'keefe and actually have true talent. Don't move to Victoria or South Australia....You'll never get picked....even if you get a 10 for with 2 hatricks...this would confuse Hilditch too much!!!!!

  • POSTED BY SVS07 on | December 12, 2010, 6:16 GMT

    It is quite suprising that the Team which dominated world cricket for most of the part is showing signs of some really immaturish nature. How many times will they change their team??? Y not stick to one and allow them time to perform. They r afraid like a small kindergarden student, when he dont do his homework. Bad luck for Hauritz, he is the best they have at hand, and the selectors r ignoring him. By giving various reasons... Huh...

  • POSTED BY Lees_Legends on | December 12, 2010, 6:04 GMT

    @Arush Dayal: So only one fit opener? Katich won't play again this series, he won't be able to run. Odd selection..... @Okakaboka: Making White the captain would be just as dumb as playing Beer in the test side. Oh wait..

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 5:59 GMT

    HAURITZ should have been there in the team. Aussies are gambling too much. Personal issues are clearly visible!!!!!!!! ................................................... ...........You want to win? Choose the best team, not the team captain or selector LIKES............

  • POSTED BY 3rd_man on | December 12, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    I am with MacGill. Aussie selection board seems to be panicking big time. But the problem seems to be with both bat & ball. no consistency top of the order. why they want to bring spinner for test in WACA? that also an inexperience one. normally one would think Aussie should go with all pace attack.

  • POSTED BY Alok505 on | December 12, 2010, 5:51 GMT

    australia need to believe in four pace bowlers , time has come to ignore these underrated bowler, why do nt they choose an extra bat like mcdonald who can be useful in ball aswell

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 5:47 GMT

    As an Ashes fan, i totally agree with Stuart McGill...considering a new comer over an experienced Nathan Hauritz is a poor selection choice. They should give a chance to Staurt Clark again. And removing Ponting from captaincy wont solve anything. He doesn't have the same team he had five years ago. He has been a great leader and will continue to perform his duty better if he's given better support from the selectors.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 5:38 GMT

    where is jason kreja i think your preference for a spinner should be 1.Nathan Hauritz 2.Jason Kreja 3.If you are playing at WAKA you don't need a spinner with MicheaL Clarke can bowl.

  • POSTED BY nataraajds on | December 12, 2010, 5:32 GMT

    Australians are disturbed & confused by the loss to england last test. decission made in hurry & confusion always lead to disasters. keep faith in your team and i am sure Aus will bounce back. they have the strength & talents. it's just a matter of time.

  • POSTED BY Reggaecricket on | December 12, 2010, 5:23 GMT

    This is probably not the first time that Cricket selectors have tried to find a dark horse, especially when things are going horribly wrong.

  • POSTED BY Alterego1 on | December 12, 2010, 5:21 GMT

    So Hilditch is suggesting that Beer is in the side because the test is being played at his home ground?

    This is a ridiculous selection policy that I have never agreed with, in any case a player will normally only play a small proportion of his career on his home ground. I can't recall one instance of a Victorian player being picked for an MCG test in the last 30 years, purely because it's his home ground!

    I don't think there is any chance of John Holland being picked for Melbourne on the basis he is a Vic (and nor should he be), or David Hussey or Cameron White for that matter.

    I could perhaps understand somebody like Terry Alderman being selected for Perth in his day (due to the Fremantle doctor), but Beer is not fit to tie Alderman's shoelaces as a bowler by any stretch of the imagination, aside from being the wrong type of bowler.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    Bring back Warnie!!!! Warne plz come out of retirement and help out the team!!

  • POSTED BY kowalski on | December 12, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    @Biju Jose: agreed with everything u said. Punter needs some time. He is one of the greats! But Check ur stats on Sachin mate. He was a child prodigy. He was more qualified than anyone else to play. I just wish aussies come back hard!

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 4:48 GMT

    Australians are indeed trying to do something different as their regulars are not working. They maybe playing some kind of a selection game now before the 3rd test to confusion the English side. If Beer succeeds it might be free beer for Australian fans, if not both the beers maybe out for the Kangaroos. Lets hope we have a fighting game at WACA.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 4:45 GMT

    australia should stop trying to bowl spin. or just get an indian guy to get an aussie passport. since warne not of of them has been even 1/2 decent at it. except michael clarke on a wicket that turned more than a ceiling fan.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 4:35 GMT

    when the team is in failing state.....everyone dare to speak against anyone......

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 4:28 GMT

    I being from India am very familiar with all 'regional selections' policies. McGill may be right about some of the strange selection policies from the Aussies, at the best can be called knee jerk reactions. Nathan Hauritz should have been in the team in the first place, dropping him after his failure against India was a mistake, because spinners are not generally very successful against India anyhow. What would have happened had the selectors of 1992 dropped Shane Warne after he was hammered left, right and centre in his career starting series against India? Criticizing Ponting for his failures recently is a bit overboard, please give the man time, sure he's gonna come back with a bang. Now, as far as qualifications of Beer, let's assume that selectors know better. How well was a certain Sachin Tendulkar qualified when he was picked to represent my country at the age of 16?

  • POSTED BY gannyboy on | December 12, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    The main problem with the Australian selectors is that they want immediate results from there spinners you have to give them time to settle down. Trying a new guy every other test is not going to solve the problem.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 3:46 GMT

    From a neutral perspective, I believe the Australian team for Perth should have been- Katich Watson(Australia's best player alongside Hussey) Ricky Clarke Hussey Haddin Johnson Hauritz Ryan Harris Siddle Hilfenhaus *This is supposing Warne doesn't want to come out of retirement.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 3:06 GMT

    Throw a shrimp on the Barbie and lets mix some beer into the batter I agree with Macgill give Hauritz a chance there is no easy fix to the current situation Aus cricket is going thru. since the retirement of warnie gillie langer mcgrath&hayden have left a gap the selectors are trying patch for the last few years.we have seen the might of the West Indies fall .Its Australia's turn ,It will take afew years before Australia gets back to the top

  • POSTED BY Okakaboka on | December 12, 2010, 3:03 GMT

    Geez....Stop suggesting NSW players for the Australian team.....Some of these guys can barely make the NSW team...they don't when everyone is available. Geez, what is wrong with the current Austrlian team is linked to the NSW players in it....Haddin, Clarke, etc. I would argue the wrong NSW are in the Aust team. In the meantime...Victoria is dealing with England quite nicely due to having a captain that uses his grey matter. Watson, Smith & O'keefe are the only NSW players that should be selected. The Australian team needs a new team coach: Mark Taylor (smart & positive) Bowling Coach: Damien Fleming.(technically brilliant)......and a complete cleanout of selectors! White Captain.....this is a no brainer!!!! The State bias has to stop if Australia wants to one in the world again!

  • POSTED BY LALITHKURUWITA on | December 12, 2010, 2:58 GMT

    I just started practicing spin bowling: slow left arm, right arm googly and under arm straight. I also got secret weapon rather a new invented ball (not the carrom ball, doosra or slinger). I got a club match in 2 days and trying to get into NSW against QLD sheffield match starting on 18th. I hope I can play in the 5th TEST in Sydney because I live in Sydney and very much familiar with SCG pitch. I pray Mr Hildrith. I am not BEER, WHISKEY, RUM, or VODKA.

  • POSTED BY rumyfala on | December 12, 2010, 2:47 GMT

    Yesterday I commented that the team leader is responsible for the failure of the team and should step down. I thought that Ricky Ponting should step down as captain and play only as a batsman. Clark will do a better job as skipper. Or may be the selectors can appoint the Western Australian captain Adam Voges. Food for thought Mr.Hilditch !!!

  • POSTED BY Hodra99 on | December 12, 2010, 2:45 GMT

    It's clear the selectors are making some strange choices at the moment...after Perth we will be able to judge them better. I would be very surprised if the Aussies can resurrect their ashes campaign. Stability is required at the moment - panic is not. The selectors would not find themselves in this position if they had made some better choices over the past couple of years (picking D Hussey when they chose North instead is one). Keep the same team now for the rest of series. If they fail then rebuild for the future with sweeping changes. Australia don't play another test series after this one until late next year, so this gives another year for the younger guys to develop. Team for 1st test next summer should be : Hughes, S Marsh, Khawaja, Clarke (C), Ferguson, Watson, Smith, Paine (VC), Copeland, Hazelwood, J Pattinson 12th George/O'Keefe

  • POSTED BY Degeneral on | December 12, 2010, 2:42 GMT

    Yeah MacGill so am I, Beer lack of experience will give Australia the same results as Doherty. Pick Hauritz he is on song at the moment

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | December 12, 2010, 2:42 GMT

    @BlueyCollar, you must be right. It's becasue of the internet that Aust is having a bad series. And to think they made the T20 world cup final and are ranked 1st in the 50 over game. The internet sure has selective influence on motor skills, dude!

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 2:32 GMT

    Aussies are famous for taking decisions what the world does not expect them too take... I doubt that this lad Beer will play in 11..... Ponting knows his captaincy and career are on the line so am sure they would have thought 100 times before selecting the final 13.... North deserves to be dropped And Johnson after being dropped first time in his life will definately come back strong.... So lets see how the decision comes out to be.... One thing for sure aussies need 5 main bowlers to bowl out England to level the series...!! Its perform or perish time for Aussi men... waiting for a thrilling encounter!!

  • POSTED BY Mad_Hamish on | December 12, 2010, 2:12 GMT

    a few points. Krezja has spent the last couple of years averaging 50 in the shield and check what happened the last test he played in Perth... With the team announced Smith will be playing batting at 6 or 7 because they haven't picked anybody else who could come in instead of North. The selectors definitely deserve some criticism (and Hilditch's comment about Beer knowing the wicket was a real WTH moment) but there's also a lack of players pushing for selection. Phil Hughes is averaging 23 this summer (16 in the shield)

  • POSTED BY Peter_Walters on | December 12, 2010, 1:48 GMT

    Here is a simple solution. Line up 10 potential spinners. Have them bowl to M.Clarke, M.Hussey, and Bolinger. I included Bolinger because if a bowler can't get him out, then he should not be in contention:-) If the other two batsmen are troubled, then you have some bowlers who made the cut. So, what is the fuss?

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 1:46 GMT

    i surely think australian cricket need to think about the selection of players and the way specially the bowlers are selected. It couldnt bring in any spinners or even if they brought any,they werent given more chances. and changes are necessary for a player to perform in any class of game.

  • POSTED BY sammykent on | December 12, 2010, 1:32 GMT

    MacGill is spot on. What is going on? The selectors seem intent on losing the Ashes. Hauritz is not great but he is the best spinner Australia have and can bat well. How about David Hussey in for North? If these two guys were in the team from the get go things would have been better. The dynamic would not have been too unsettled and team unity would have been strong. Imagine being Ponting and having to talk to your troops and encourage them when all they feel like is a dead man walking. North's performance was expected so removing him before the start of the series would have been the wise thing to do.....but the selectors are not wise. Far, far from it.

  • POSTED BY Scgboy on | December 12, 2010, 1:29 GMT

    No, this is not an old player having a whine, its actually pretty much on the money.

    Harutiz should have been persisted with,despite not being warnie's or macGill'sls reincarnation.Hes solid and doesn't have the worst track record at home.

    I understand the need to unearth a new spin option, but it has to be done with thought not in the middle of an ashes series. maybe in a future series where there isn't so much riding on it could they be blooded.

    Look I hope the guy does well , as i would wish any player, but you have to give him a chance as well.

  • POSTED BY gjando on | December 12, 2010, 1:28 GMT

    Ten spinners tried since Warne retired..where is the plan from the selection panel? Surely, promise can be identified early & fostered. Spinners mature late, so you need to be patient, with no bowlers on the panel, is this a surprise. Therefore you identify the talent & you give them a chance to grow & develop without undermining their confidence. Also, Ponting has a lot to answer for;

    1. Does not back his spin bowlers with fields that apply pressure 2. Happy to dump on his bowlers too quickly. Example, was the major advocate for Krezja to go to India. Krezja repays the faith & takes 12 wickets on debut. He comes to Oz for the NZ & South Africa series. He has one bad test against Sth Africa & dumped because he leaked runs, what Ponting forgot to register was the ridiculous fields he set 3. With no world-class fast bowler in the team how can justify not playing an attacking spinner

    Two of Australia's best spinners are now on the outer; Krezja & Hauritz..go figure!!

  • POSTED BY Puffin on | December 12, 2010, 1:05 GMT

    Two top notch spinners at once meant the aussies had cover for Warne. Alas for them, two buses at once means no more buses for a while. Hauritz seems the better choice and I reckon beer's for drinking.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 0:42 GMT

    As Homer Simpson put it-"Beer, now there's a temporary solution"

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 0:36 GMT

    I dont understand the selectors! Really Beer? He can and shouldnt play! Ponting and the selectors get their nose out of joint if comments are made and players are blacklisted. The selection is not about ability and form but about politics. The no. 1 spinner in the country, Jason Krejza, cant even get a game because he is on the wrong side of politics! He is the only bloke who turns the ball! Hauritz and Xavier are 2nd rate!

  • POSTED BY Australia17594 on | December 12, 2010, 0:30 GMT

    Where's Copeland?? Why aren't we putting in youth... I mean Australia put in Mcgrath around the time where copeland is now...

  • POSTED BY Garp on | December 12, 2010, 0:24 GMT

    What has become of Australian Cricket? Oh how the mighty have fallen! First-off what are they doing with their bowling selections? where s Hauritz and why is he no longer even a consideration? I'm not even an Aussie Cricket fan, I support England and have for 10 years now but I want to see a great Ashes contest and the Aussie selectors are stealing that from all of us! Hauritz has just taken a 5 for and hit a 100 and still is overlooked for a bloke who's only played 4-5 first class matches? insanity! I need an easy paycheck where do I put in for the Australian Selector job? Lord knows I'll do a better job then the clowns there using now, I mean seriously this is an Ashes Test Series and there is no way someone with no International experience and hardly any first class experience will pan out. I feel for Ponting because ultimately he is the one who will be ravished in the media for Australia's failures.

  • POSTED BY ToneMalone on | December 12, 2010, 0:22 GMT

    The selectors have made some poor decisions over the past two years, and now it's really coming home to roost. Discarding Krejza is the biggest one that comes to mind when it comes to the spinners - he had far more match-winning potential than Hauritz. I suspect the selectors also gave Ponting too much sway over which spinner was in the side - when what was really needed was some lessons for Ponting on how to use spinners effectively. So now they're having to take huge gambles, mid-Ashes series. I'm hoping Greg Chappell had a more educated gut instinct about Beer; Chappell is a man who helped rebuild Australia's team in the 1980s, so maybe he knows something we don't. Either way, the other selectors must take some responsibility for this mess. It's one thing to axe players - but where's the accountability for the selectors?

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2010, 0:15 GMT

    cricket Australia seem to be entering the sillier than thou contest alongside the Pakistan cricket board

  • POSTED BY Digimont on | December 12, 2010, 0:13 GMT

    I actually tipped Beer (at work, not on here) to be in the team, or more accurately I tipped the madness of the selection panel.I don't know anything about him either.

    I hereby apply for the role of Australian selector. I promise the following immediate changes 1) Ponting relieved of captaincy and dropped to 6, 2) Clarke dropped 3)Haddin installed as captain, sorry Mike Hussey, but you are too close to the end for the role 4) Watson to 3, find another opener. A perfect 3, able to handle the new ball if in early, able to pounce on a good start from the openers too.

    Of course none of that will happen, and given the selections of Ponting at 3 (and C) and Clarke at 4 (and VC), here is the side I would have gone with (specifically for the WACA);

    Hughes, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey M, Hussey D, Haddin, Smith, Christian, Harris, Hilfenhuis

    2 quicks, 2 medium fast all rounders, 2 spinners. Deepest batting lineup Australia has had in years with Christian at 9.

  • POSTED BY BlueyCollar on | December 12, 2010, 0:08 GMT

    The culture of growing up Australian has changed.Kids born in the 70's and earlier spent their youth playing sport as their major leisure time activety. You couldn't drive down a suburban street without disrupting a herd of kids playing an impromptu game of cricket or football in the middle of the road or seeing a rouge cricket or football bouncing down the street. Keep in mind genius is obtained by 10000 hours of practice. Since then with the emergence of technologies like the internet and mobile phones, that seem to occupy most of their time, coupled with the parental attitude of wrapping their kids in cottenwool Australian kids are growing up with less developed motor skills, a diminished competitive spirit and poor fitness. This finally has manifested itself in elite Australian sport. Unfortunately this is not going to change, the halcyon days are over. Buy your kids cricket bats for Xmas not ipads

  • POSTED BY SurlyCynic on | December 11, 2010, 23:48 GMT

    Funny to see the Aussies panicking, how the wheel has turned. Aussie supporters getting quieter by the day. Is Beer a rat joining a sinking ship?

  • POSTED BY SteveS3667 on | December 11, 2010, 23:42 GMT

    Hauritz is your man, I expect Steve Smith will make the final 11. for us poms unchanged apart from Broad, will be a closer game in Perth but on this form I think will still be at worst for us still 1-0, I love good cricket,love to see us poms get one over the Aussies but don't want to see them diminish into nothing, very strange seeing the Aussies doing badly but I guess like us winning the Rugby then all the retirements big process of rebuilding, ponting should stay, he's a good captain, it's just the bowling department.

  • POSTED BY skothari.1111 on | December 11, 2010, 23:41 GMT

    Looks like Australia selection panel are better spinners themselves. They have got everyone bamboozled!

  • POSTED BY Rickaby on | December 11, 2010, 23:39 GMT

    Totally agree with Legionnaire. Greg Chappell is a disaster zone - India and SA suffered from his inept meddling - and now he's had an immediate impact with glaringly bizarre selection decisions. Having said that, the rest of the selection panel have clearly failed to plan for the future and the results of their lack of foresight will now take time to amend.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | December 11, 2010, 23:35 GMT

    MacGill was a pretty decent bowler. His problem was Warne who kept him out of the team. I wouldn't mind betting that there is a bit of historic needle going on here and that MacGill is applying payback. I'm surprised Hauritz isn't getting another go - he's obviously said something he shouldn't have to someone. I don't think it will matter; England are stronger man for man in every position 1 to 11 and Australian selectors diddling about with their team demonstartes their acceptance of this fact.

  • POSTED BY Stevros3 on | December 11, 2010, 22:47 GMT

    If Beer is the future of Aussie spin bowling then the worst thing they could do is play him now; he's young enough that a bad couple of matches could scar him for a long time at this level. And if he's not the long term future then why are the Aussies picking an unproven player as a stopgap. I think this is the joker in the pack move (especially as its at the WACA), they'll never play Beer; though they may be regretting their choice of 12th man if someone gets injured at the last minute.

  • POSTED BY Legionnaire on | December 11, 2010, 22:36 GMT

    With selection policy as ridiculous it can get, perhaps now Aussie fans would understand the kind of mess you can get into when you involve Greg Chappell as a decision maker. India went through the same pain as currently Australia is going through. So, enjoy the taste of your own medicine.

  • POSTED BY monkmanish on | December 11, 2010, 22:30 GMT

    y dony they do de same with ricky ponting n appoint some new caption ?

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | December 11, 2010, 22:27 GMT

    Poor Stuart MacGill- he played all his career in the shadow of Shane Warne. What the selectors would give now to have him available! Obviously what he is saying is right; it's almost impossible to believe that the selectors would pick a 26-year old bowler with 5 first class games behind him. Even Beer himself couldn't believe it. It's not as if he might be handy with the bat- he has a first-class average of 3.5 and a high of 6* ("Darn it- just got myself nicely played in, 6 on the board, and I ran out of partners"). If he plays and gets taken round the park, the selectors will look like the biggest fools ever in the game. I'm guessing he won't play and Australia will go in with 4 quicks plus Watson and Smith to bowl his non-turning leg-breaks. That might work if they can get England on a fiery wicket on the first day. Otherwise, if England get away on day one, it's hard to see any way Australia can win.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 22:06 GMT

    We r expecting 2 much from our spinners. If u line up Hauritz's stats against other "class" spin bowlers he doesn't stack up too badly. He is unspectular, but who cares, he does the job.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 21:47 GMT

    I don't think the selectors are panicking. I think they understand they have nothing to lose except to concede the series by a bigger margin. The reality is that no single player is going to reverse the direction of this series, including the players that McGill would prefer. Picking an unknown player will at least force the English to do extra homework and could disrupt their sense of security.

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | December 11, 2010, 21:47 GMT

    The great irony of everyone calling for Hauritz is he himself was plucked from obscurity a few years ago. He couldn't even make his state team and got picked for Australia. Personally I still reckon Krezja is the huy we should be investing in. Also, for years Australian teams picked themselves. Now the selectors actually have to do something. we discover the selectors we've got are freakin hopeless. I gotta wonder too about Warnie's influence, who was the first to suggest Beer. And, of course, the mere mention of Beer would have had Boonie's vote. Here's my selection panel: Bill Lawry, Allan Border, Steve Waugh. Three no nonsense blokes with broad experience. Everyone keeps giving their two cents on the team, so let's see Cricinfo do an article on who should be on the selection panel.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 21:44 GMT

    I think all of you have short memories or little knowledge of history. Australia has a long history of selecting relatively unknown spinners that have had success at test level. Bob Holland, Shane Warne and Peter Taylor spring to mind and I am sure you could find a few more if one looked. So don´t write of Michael Beer yet. Hauritz is a pie chucker. Australia don´t need somebody to hold up an end . They need to win matches. Hauritz won´t bowl anybody out. Jason Krezja may have been a good choice and even Bryce McGain could have been given another chance. But don´t write off Beer yet.

  • POSTED BY SteveS3667 on | December 11, 2010, 21:11 GMT

    I don't think England should get too carried away, we are 1-0 up and are a win a way from retaining the Ashes we are playing brilliantly at the moment and I think we will win the series but I still feel the Aussies have a formidable batting line up and we should be wary of a wounded side. Phil Hughes was probably the right choice for replacing Katich but think not picking Hauritz is criminal. Aussies 1 - 7 are ok but who will replace North at 6? bowlers should stick with Hilfenhaus, Johnson, Siddle and recall Hauritz, England should remain unchanged but for Broad Tremlett would be my choice, would like to see Morgan get a game. Perth will be a big test for England really hope they can win it there....we have a great side now.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 21:04 GMT

    its obvious that they are gonna go with 4 pacers and s.smith as an spinning all rounder...... they just wanna panic poms by doing a bizzare selection but its not d mighty aussie era so this will not work........ n im preety sure they r gonna select hauritz for last two matches

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 21:01 GMT

    i agree with stuart ,why havent they tried jason kreizja.....he did good in india...but i still feel hauritz is the man for australia.....

  • POSTED BY Eskimo on | December 11, 2010, 20:56 GMT

    Mr. Macgill...My hat off to you. It's about time someone cut the nonsense and tell the media straight forward what the hell is going on. I love blokes who speak their minds. We need more critical people like this in the media, because it takes guts to tell someone that you just aren't good enough and don't deserve this spot.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 20:25 GMT

    i'm amazed nobody has suggested bringing back dennis lillee

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 20:24 GMT

    what are the selectors trying to prove? on a pitch where the england team scored 600 plus losing just 5 wickets and the so called mighty australian team cant even match the score in two innings... i m sorry but boss accept the fact that your days are gone... england is better than you in every aspect.... so no need to unnecessarily drop the sword on soft targets .... it will not serve the purpose... but such decisions sound awkward and will eventually prove to be so...

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 20:22 GMT

    Beer may prove him wrong but on the face of it, McGill is right. If it was a job interview, Hauritz would get the job. End of story.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 20:20 GMT

    well well.. something is fishy.. selectors giving ample chances to Marcus North who performs 2 out of 10 innings and finding replacements for a decent spinner. If they were so desperate for an immediate replacement, where is Jason Kreza who took 8- for in his debut innings? I agree with mamahajan , talking too much about Beer is pretty unreasonable at this point of time, and it will be very interesting to see if Beer really makes in to playing 11 or he remains on the bench.. On the whole, we have the privilege of seeing some new FACES, courtesy some BARE FOOTED decisions by d selectors...

  • POSTED BY rolwinl on | December 11, 2010, 20:18 GMT

    Is is possible that Michael Beer has been selected because of his name? If I was a selector, I would.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 20:10 GMT

    Fast bowlers make their careeragainst Indian Batsman and Spin bowler loose all the reputation against Indian Batsman. And so was the case with Hauritz and to some extent even Warne, I think almost everybody in India from a cricket expert to a person who hardly knows cricket understands this. But poor Australian selectors don't understand this. They are panicking. This shows neither selectors, nor captain had much role when they winning it was Warne, McGra and Gilly who were winning mostlyfor Australia.

  • POSTED BY aussiescantlosenoway on | December 11, 2010, 19:57 GMT

    England is winning by nothing but pure luck. I think Beer will be the man of the match in Perth.

  • POSTED BY iamyourharry on | December 11, 2010, 19:50 GMT

    leave the third test.... for the fourth test all the 4 lakh people of melbourne will be available for selection.... it looks gr8 na??? 4 lakh people for the one spot for spinner... Michael Beer will be 12th man and will carry beer to the field to energize the australian fielders.. they must have selected Micael beer by his name... or his selection would have been by a lottery scheme.Put all the spinners of perth in a box and select one of them... v would like to have warne or Mcgill back... they are sure to lose the 3rd test if they repeat the same first innings in previous test match. teams like SL, India, Eng have quality spinnners who can make use of the fourth nd fifth day pitches and bowl in rough patches... u r givin a debut spinner with less than 5 first class match the bowl and expect him to take wicket..no way.

  • POSTED BY gopz_cric on | December 11, 2010, 19:45 GMT

    Yep!! Mac'y is right in his remarks.... Might be Ricky is tryn to loose this series convincingly so that they will be all pumped up for the world cup... Gee.....

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    macgill has said that because in his time he did not get chance to play for australia even if shane warne was out of form...

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 19:40 GMT

    This indicates that the Australian cricket management is in total mess like the team. Nathan Hauritz had very ordinary Indian tour. This is expected for any spinner visiting India. The legends Murali & Warne had to go through this. So Hauritz here is hard done. And the other thing is this chap, Beer, is not at all replacement. Aussie heading no where with this after being 1 down in the serious. I think it would be better off Aussie sticking to guys like Johnson, Hauritz and Bolinger. These guys will fire some day or the other. By bringing in new faces, there wont be any good happening to the team, specially when these changes happening halfway of a tour.

  • POSTED BY morethan20-20 on | December 11, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    It's a batsmans' game and no coincidence the selectors are all batsmen. How can the bowlers be hauled over the coals for Adelaide when the pitch seemed to be a road ? They ( selectors )and punter seem to confirm that batsmen are given all the time and chances to get a score and not have to suffer the almost instant boot if one test you under perform...yes Bollinger and Hilf...the only exception being the wayward and undeserving johnson. And Im sick of people saying ..."johnson only had 1 bad test"...crap !!!! the guy is inconsistent and cant even be trusted with the new ball, its laughable, you cant build a bowling unit around him cause the other bowlers have to restrain any attacking instinct to limit the damage johnson has caused by throwing pie's....Hilf was a victim of this at the Gabba. Cast your mind back to the last away Ashes when S Clark played. Time to apply the same standards to batsmen....bye bye punter and pup.

  • POSTED BY Bang_La on | December 11, 2010, 19:19 GMT

    This is really interesting but true that ACB is panicked! You know what? The Aussies became so haughty (remember their behaviour in and ouside field including a futile and nasty push to make Howard as the ICC Chief)! Its the start of paying the price, mates. More to come.

  • POSTED BY Puffin on | December 11, 2010, 19:17 GMT

    It could be that Australia may be better off not having some specialist spinner in the team, regardless of experience and form, just for the sake of having one. A part timer used as a partnership breaker would probably do, and this would free up a slot for someone else.

  • POSTED BY Puffin on | December 11, 2010, 19:17 GMT

    It could be that Australia may be better off not having some specialist spinner in the team, regardless of experience and form, just for the sake of having one. A part timer used as a partnership breaker would probably do, and this would free up a slot for someone else.

  • POSTED BY RalphB on | December 11, 2010, 19:13 GMT

    It seems that Andrew Hilditch should be one of the people to be dropped; his selection policies have been desperate and lacking in direction. The Australians also need a new coach, one who is not just one of the boys, unlikeTim Nielsen.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 18:48 GMT

    England just 1-0 up in the series with 3 more test matches to go and look here what ricky ponting has to say""I think it is very difficult now for us to come back and win the ashes"" this statement gave me 3 feelings which are absolutely the facts at present,,,,, 1.Australia are very low on confidence and totally shattered. 2. Ricky ponting is not the correct man to lead australia. 3. They have already accepted the defeat with 3 test matches left

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 18:47 GMT

    Bring back Warne!!! along with matty hayden Gilly and justin langer!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 18:19 GMT

    u can't judge huaritz based on indian tour. it is totally different ball game. their batting attack is the best against spin. even shane warne didn't succeed. so whts the point? bring haurits back in

  • POSTED BY Nathan_a on | December 11, 2010, 18:14 GMT

    All English cricket fans should thank Greg Chappell. Remember India's pathetic performance in 2007 world cup and you could see the common thread - good players losing confidence ( Irfan pathan then and Bollinger now) and shown the door, too many changes and uncertainity everywhere.

  • POSTED BY mits6 on | December 11, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    I absolutely agree Macgill .Hauritz is the right contender, and wouldn't had been sacked based on a single performance in india as if this had been so ,even shane warne too did not deserved his place in team . hauritz has good record in his homeland but don't know how Beer get selected .@ mamahajan such a bad selection obviously invites criticism , as they can not wait for another failure.

  • POSTED BY sankar-aachen on | December 11, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    McGill, If you were born 15 years later than u actually were, u would have had a brilliant career :P

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 18:06 GMT

    Now this is a clear indication of how dismayed the Ex-Australian players are & also it shows the desperation of ACB to sprawl back on a winning note.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    Greg Chappel is doing all over again what he did with india. Show him the door the problems will be solved by some extent. How can players perform if they are not sure of their places in the side. Except watson everybody else is under extreme pressure for their place n thats why he's the only one scoring runs.

  • POSTED BY Deepfreezed on | December 11, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    all this hoopla for nothing. a good win will fix most of this. stop panicking....

  • POSTED BY addiemanav on | December 11, 2010, 18:03 GMT

    no one knows earning a place in the team better than macgill.poor guy was just behind warne and was the 2nd best in aus,but never really got the chance..warne had to remain injured or banned for macgill to play as a replacement..he will surely be annoyed now that the cap is being thrown away like anything..im sure if warne does not want to make a comeback,macgill can & i think the selectors wont mind bringing him in!!seriously,is there no spin talent in australia!!can i get aussie citizenship before perth test??i think i hav a lot of ability of bowling decent half-trackers with some good spin..wont mind playing test cricket for aus..beer started professional cricket an year ago,i can do it now!!

  • POSTED BY Ozcricketwriter on | December 11, 2010, 18:02 GMT

    Don't even think about playing a spinner in Perth. Simple as that. Let the spinners battle it out before Melbourne and Sydney and decide on who to pick then. Beer should carry the drinks. He doesn't deserve this call up. At least Doherty was in good form, as the top one day domestic spin bowler and had taken 4 wickets in his ODI debut. Beer is just another run of the mill bowler.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 18:01 GMT

    When it is plain that aussies do not have a Test-level spinner they shd be looking to pack the side with pacemen like the glorious windies used to do under Clive Lloyd. If they needed to give all the fast men a break then they used Viv Richards as the relief bowler. So cd australia use. Ponting himslef can bowl 3-4 overs if need be. Instead the selection team is doing harm to budding spinners by selecting and dropping them swiftly.

  • POSTED BY MINT22 on | December 11, 2010, 17:57 GMT

    i THINK AUSTRALIAN PLAYING ELEVEN SHOULD BE THIS:WATSON,HUGES,HUSSEY,PONTING,CLARKE,HADDIN,SMITH,HAURITZ,JHONSON,HARRIS,SIDDLE..... AND ALSO I THINK THAT CA IS TREATING ASHES LIKE GALI CRICKET

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:50 GMT

    While Hilditch is certainly the chief of selectors, I would like equal scorn to be heaped on the rest of the panel as well. WTF are they thinking? :S

  • POSTED BY whoster on | December 11, 2010, 17:46 GMT

    I really don't know what Hilditch and the other selectors are playing at. My guess is that they're going to try every single spinner until they find another Warne. He was a once in a lifetime bowler, and it's about time the Aussies accepted that as fact. Doherty? Beer? Completely unqualified and untested. Doherty was hit straight out of Test cricket, and the same will probably happen to Beer. What has Nathan Hauritz done wrong? He hasn't set the world on fire, but he's been pretty dependable and has steadily improved. He suffered in India, but as Warne himself said, so did he and countless others. The Aussie selectors are an absolute joke who have no idea who to pick. They're doing a great job at copying our English selctors of the 90's - and Strauss and the boys will be laughing at Hilditch and Co for doing half the job of retaining the Ashes for them. Perhaps if they can't plead Warnie out of retirement, they'll ask Richie Benaud come the Melbourne Test?

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    Well said stuart, It is a shame that australian cricket has come to this. For the first time in a long time im envious of englands preperation, persistance, dedication and lack of doubt. Seletcors are failing to select "in form" players and are too concerned about building a team of regular players. Just so u know Boony, If you pick your best, in form players the rest will fall in to place.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    Well said stuart, It is a shame that australian cricket has come to this. For the first time in a long time im envious of englands preperation, persistance, dedication and lack of doubt. Seletcors are failing to select "in form" players and are too concerned about building a team of regular players. Just so u know Boony, If you pick your best, in form players the rest will fall in to place.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:32 GMT

    Surprised Stuey didn't mention bringbackwarne.com. ;) Wonder if he's launched his own comeback campaign yet?

  • POSTED BY cricslave on | December 11, 2010, 17:31 GMT

    Hauritz doesnt listen to ricky.. thats the point....means..Hauritz wants to set his own field for his style of bowling while ricky wants hauritz ro bowl to his field..They need to work together and concentrate on picking up the wickets.. Ricky should allow hauritz to have his own field and if it doesnt work, should ask hauritz to bowl to his field..Even in the worst case, hauritz can bowl a tight line and allow other bowlers to use that pressure.. A leaf should be taken from Paul Harris book... Nevertheless.. i want the poms to win the series..I remember reading these words..." if i lose the aussies,i need to find a new job - statement given by ricky"

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:30 GMT

    aussies are not used to losing. actually they are not very good at answering questions of the opposite team......and when someone asks them.....they present a blank face....... same is the case here........england asked them some questions..........and instead of giving replies....they are trying to ask them counter questions....... when they lose............they lose their minds as well.......first.....the players used to lose their minds.....now its the turn of the selectors ;)

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | December 11, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    hell, im going to the waca on day one, maybe ill get a game if i rock up early?!

  • POSTED BY AIRkris on | December 11, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    pick me... no 1st-class experience but lived in perth for a couple of years... good to play eh?

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Beer,Vodka,Rum.....Australia shall lose anyways....

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    BANGLADESHI UPCOMING SPINNERS SHOULD MIGRATE TO AUS.....THEY WILL GET CHANCE....SURE

  • POSTED BY Zhovaan on | December 11, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    MacGill is actually right dead on!Hauritz is probably the best they have at the moment.... Ponting needs to go down the order with Hussey now at Number 3. I am glad to see that Hughes is in the squad and I do certainly hope he secures a spot on this failing team. Who the hell is Beer? And my goodness what is this Doherty guy doing there? Cricket Australia would certainly dampen this guys chances of playing for them after a fantastic start to his ODI career....well let's hope it doesn't end here.......Callum Ferguson deserves a pick also. And please get some better fast bowlers

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    Nathan Hauritz should be there for the Ashes from the start . He is paying the panulty for the bad performance in the recent india-australia series .But the australian selector must understand that he was hammered by some of the best Player of spin bowling

  • POSTED BY PakCricketistanLover on | December 11, 2010, 16:57 GMT

    Australian Immigration there I come......soon u will have be in ur next 11.......2013 is what I am targeting........Andrew Hilditch just need s to read my comment, to know that they r going to have a great spinner soon :-)

  • POSTED BY mamahajan89 on | December 11, 2010, 16:53 GMT

    aussies dint care much bout macgill when they had him....how dearly would they want him in the team now!!!times change...and how!! criticising beer before he has even stepped onto WACA is too harsh on the bloke...he needs to b given a fair go now that they've selected him over hauritz..... i have a strong feeling that aussies gona strike back....strike real hard!!i so dearly wish they do...

  • POSTED BY The-World-Champions on | December 11, 2010, 16:51 GMT

    I completely agree with what Stuart has to say, Micheal Beer is definitely not a replacement for Hauritz! I hope the Ausies field Steve Smith. His Batting could provide some depth.

  • POSTED BY kvijaybabu on | December 11, 2010, 16:45 GMT

    cant stop myself ROFL.... warne was asked what ru having tonight? Warne replied. "im having beer". next day media reports warne backs beer to play @perth and hilditch actaully picks beer... beer who? hahahahaah

    Aussie selectors panicking...I love it.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    Yes, yes, yes. MacGill is absolutely right. Everything he said. Nathan Hauritz has good reason to feel aggrieved.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    I totally agree with Stuart, the selectors are gone mad. time for a big change in Aussie team and may be a new skipper for all 3 formats which i think is Shane Watson ! the most consistent player in line up and he can be a next Steave Waugh for his all-round capabilities !!!

  • POSTED BY boris6491 on | December 11, 2010, 16:41 GMT

    We all, past players, fans, observers and the public keep slamming selection decisions. The solution is simple. Sack the WHOLE selection committee and bring in a new one which thinks along different lines because evidently, the lines along which the current committee is thinking is really not working. There is every likeliness that Australia will not just lose but do so embarrassingly at home against a team who only 3 years ago were humbled and but for a series in 2005, have been constantly ridiculed as cricket's whipping boys. My personal feeling is that we all keep debating for a spinner and which one is best but if the selectors are for some reason unable to keep with one player and give that player adequate chances, we might as well focus on having a four pronged pace attack and utilising part timers such as Clarke and Katich who can bowl spin or even Steve Smith if he takes over North's number 6 position.

  • POSTED BY pathaksandeep on | December 11, 2010, 16:39 GMT

    I feel so bad that I was not born in Australia or I have not been living there. The scarcity of spinner at such a level tells me that I had a great chance of playing test cricket ;)

  • POSTED BY CaughtAndBowled on | December 11, 2010, 16:38 GMT

    By the sounds of it, all an Australian player needs to do is to roll up his sleeve and send down few gentle slow deliveries. Who knows, he could be playing in the fourth test match!!!

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  • POSTED BY CaughtAndBowled on | December 11, 2010, 16:38 GMT

    By the sounds of it, all an Australian player needs to do is to roll up his sleeve and send down few gentle slow deliveries. Who knows, he could be playing in the fourth test match!!!

  • POSTED BY pathaksandeep on | December 11, 2010, 16:39 GMT

    I feel so bad that I was not born in Australia or I have not been living there. The scarcity of spinner at such a level tells me that I had a great chance of playing test cricket ;)

  • POSTED BY boris6491 on | December 11, 2010, 16:41 GMT

    We all, past players, fans, observers and the public keep slamming selection decisions. The solution is simple. Sack the WHOLE selection committee and bring in a new one which thinks along different lines because evidently, the lines along which the current committee is thinking is really not working. There is every likeliness that Australia will not just lose but do so embarrassingly at home against a team who only 3 years ago were humbled and but for a series in 2005, have been constantly ridiculed as cricket's whipping boys. My personal feeling is that we all keep debating for a spinner and which one is best but if the selectors are for some reason unable to keep with one player and give that player adequate chances, we might as well focus on having a four pronged pace attack and utilising part timers such as Clarke and Katich who can bowl spin or even Steve Smith if he takes over North's number 6 position.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    I totally agree with Stuart, the selectors are gone mad. time for a big change in Aussie team and may be a new skipper for all 3 formats which i think is Shane Watson ! the most consistent player in line up and he can be a next Steave Waugh for his all-round capabilities !!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    Yes, yes, yes. MacGill is absolutely right. Everything he said. Nathan Hauritz has good reason to feel aggrieved.

  • POSTED BY kvijaybabu on | December 11, 2010, 16:45 GMT

    cant stop myself ROFL.... warne was asked what ru having tonight? Warne replied. "im having beer". next day media reports warne backs beer to play @perth and hilditch actaully picks beer... beer who? hahahahaah

    Aussie selectors panicking...I love it.

  • POSTED BY The-World-Champions on | December 11, 2010, 16:51 GMT

    I completely agree with what Stuart has to say, Micheal Beer is definitely not a replacement for Hauritz! I hope the Ausies field Steve Smith. His Batting could provide some depth.

  • POSTED BY mamahajan89 on | December 11, 2010, 16:53 GMT

    aussies dint care much bout macgill when they had him....how dearly would they want him in the team now!!!times change...and how!! criticising beer before he has even stepped onto WACA is too harsh on the bloke...he needs to b given a fair go now that they've selected him over hauritz..... i have a strong feeling that aussies gona strike back....strike real hard!!i so dearly wish they do...

  • POSTED BY PakCricketistanLover on | December 11, 2010, 16:57 GMT

    Australian Immigration there I come......soon u will have be in ur next 11.......2013 is what I am targeting........Andrew Hilditch just need s to read my comment, to know that they r going to have a great spinner soon :-)

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    Nathan Hauritz should be there for the Ashes from the start . He is paying the panulty for the bad performance in the recent india-australia series .But the australian selector must understand that he was hammered by some of the best Player of spin bowling