The Ashes 2010-11 November 15, 2010

Doherty and Ferguson in 17-man Ashes squad

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Australia have named their squad for next week's first Ashes Test, but their starting line-up is no clearer. Xavier Doherty and Callum Ferguson were the major surprises in a bloated 17-man group that also included Usman Khawaja, Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle, but there was no place for the backup opener Phillip Hughes, who was the only unexpected omission.

The squad, which is bigger than England's touring party for the entire series, will be trimmed to 12 or 13 after this week's round of Sheffield Shield matches before the first Test begins at the Gabba next Thursday. The selectors are also keen to see how some of the contenders perform for Australia A in their match against England starting on Wednesday in Hobart.

The four-day game between New South Wales and Tasmania shapes as a particularly fascinating contest, with the spinners Hauritz and Doherty to go head to head on an SCG pitch that should offer assistance. The inclusion of the left-armer Doherty, who made a promising ODI debut this month but was viewed as a limited-overs specialist, has placed extra pressure on the incumbent Hauritz, who has struggled over the past month.

"Nathan Hauritz has performed exceptionally well over the past 12 months for Australia," the chairman of selectors, Andrew Hilditch, said. "One of the biggest decisions we will need to make is whether we go into the first Test in Brisbane with a right-arm offspinner or with the variation of a left-arm orthodox bowler.

"Xavier Doherty has been very impressive in both limited-overs and first-class cricket, in particular last season and the start of this season, and it will be a great opportunity for us to observe both of the spinning options in the Sheffield Shield clash between New South Wales and Tasmania at the SCG this week."

Hilditch's comments suggest the selectors are not considering an all-pace attack at the Gabba, where the seam-friendly conditions sometimes encourage sides to risk leaving out their frontline spinner. That means the most likely pace attack is Mitchell Johnson, Ben Hilfenhaus and Doug Bollinger, who made a promising return in club cricket on the weekend.

Bollinger has been out with an abdominal strain since the first Test in India last month, and he collected 1 for 30 in ten overs for Fairfield on Saturday. He will continue his return in the Sheffield Shield game and providing he comes through unscathed, will be a certain starter on a Brisbane surface that should offer him some assistance.

His recovery also reduces the chance of Siddle being included for his first Test since January, while the in-form Harris would need to also shake off a knee problem if he was to make the side. Harris bowled himself into contention with a match haul of 9 for 140 for Queensland at Bellerive last week but after the match had a swollen knee - he had surgery on the joint during the off-season - and his availability won't be known for several days.

"Ryan Harris has a chronic knee injury that requires ongoing management," the team physio Alex Kountouris said. "As such he will not play in the next round of Sheffield Shield games or for Australia A starting 17 November to allow his knee to fully recover. His availability for the first Ashes Test will determined later this week."

There are unlikely to be any surprises in Australia's batting line-up, although they are waiting to confirm the fitness of Michael Clarke, who suffered a recurrence of the disc problem in his back while playing for New South Wales on the weekend. Clarke will sit out of this week's Sheffield Shield match but he is hopeful he will take his place at the Gabba.

"I'm not going to play against Tasmania on Wednesday," Clarke said. "I'm going to give myself another few days off to get my back right. But I'm confident that if I do all the right things over the next week I'll be 100% ready to go come Brisbane."

Unless Clarke succumbs to the problem, there shouldn't be any changes to Australia's established top six, meaning Khawaja and Ferguson will have to wait to receive their baggy greens. Their selection is a strong indication that they will be vying for a position in the middle order should the selectors lose faith with Michael Hussey or Marcus North during the summer.

The exclusion of the opener Hughes is a sign that Simon Katich will be fit for the Test, having been out of action due to a broken thumb. Katich made his comeback in grade cricket on the weekend, making 94 for Randwick-Petersham, and will line up for New South Wales in their four-day match this week.

Australia squad Simon Katich, Shane Watson, Ricky Ponting (capt), Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey, Marcus North, Usman Khawaja, Callum Ferguson, Brad Haddin (wk), Steven Smith, Mitchell Johnson, Nathan Hauritz, Xavier Doherty, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, Ben Hilfenhaus, Doug Bollinger.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at Cricinfo

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  • on November 19, 2010, 20:26 GMT

    @landl47: Australia's equivalent of England's "Performance Programme" is the Australia A team, which played a series against Sri Lanka A back in July. They often play matches during Australia's winter. So I'm not sure how you can say that " ... Now it's England planning for the future while Australia hangs on, losing matches with players who are over the hill ...". The Australia A programme, plus the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane, are all planning for the future. As for selecting the Test team, I agree that it would be good to see more youngsters in the team, but you can only select them if they are playing well enough, and not many are doing that.

  • landl47 on November 18, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    Nice try, Raj, but all you're really saying is that no matter how bad it looks, the Aussies shouldn't give up hope. England have been in that position on every tour since the mid-1980s and guess what? They've lost every time. If the choice is between a team in form and a team who are hoping that they are better than their recent results indicate, then I'll take the guys playing well. The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.

  • slcricket on November 18, 2010, 8:18 GMT

    judging on the ercent shelid and A games australias best batsman is Mitchell Johnson

  • Meety on November 18, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    @Raj R Ganeson - nicely put. Interesting that it was O'Keefe taht bagged the wicket of KP. In Bangladesh - left arm orthodox got KP in alnost every Test & ODI innings he played (Shakib I think was the main tormentor). So if KP is Oz main threat in batting - maybe Doherty & O'Keefe are worth a look. If we go with left arm orthodox spin option, I would tend to think that we can't play Bollinger & Johnson in the same side, as they would rough up the wrong area of the pitch. Johnson & Bollinger would help Hauritz against the right hand batsmen. I think O'Keefe has got the jump on Smith & Khawaja, I don't think it is quite Fergusons time. If Hussey makes runs in his 2nd innings - I would play him in the 1st Test. North needs the chop.

  • on November 18, 2010, 5:19 GMT

    @landl47 mate let me worry about taking a course in logic .First get your reasoning straight before pointing your fingers towards others .I was emphasising upon the unpredictable nature of the game . I never said australians are in red hot form . all i was trying to say that if australians take leaf out of New Zealand 's book after the unexpected white wash against Bangladesh and show the kind of character that black caps shown against us then Australia should be able to beat England which in my opinion will be a closely fought series . I think you should take a serious course in analytical reasoning before taking a swipe on others . cheers mate

  • on November 18, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    @ landl47 mate nothing is predictable in sports . England are a much improved side these days and if Australia manage to beat them in the first test then we have a serious series in our hands .if it is the other way around then Australia should forget about laying their hands on ashes. We had predicted that India would thrash New Zealand especially after the Bangla wash and look what had happened in the first 2 tests .Test cricket is matter of holding your nerve in the end .the team which does it better at the end of the day is gonna win the series be it Australia or England .Cheers mate

  • nzcricket174 on November 17, 2010, 10:10 GMT

    Want to know why Australia are doing so badly? The selectors. They are selecting the way they used to select. This won't work because they don't have 8-9 100% performers like they used to.

  • Meety on November 17, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    Well the SCG game is a disaster 15 wickets for 150 runs - not much chance of a guide or finding form in that mess. On Form (only) the Oz side should be 1. W Robinson, 2. Cowan, 3. Clarke, 4. O'Keefe, 5. Smith, 6 AB McDonald, 7. Paine, 8. Butterworth, 9. Harris, 10. Swan, 11. Bollinger. Man this 2010 campaign is going from bad to worse, no frontline test contender (Clarke aside), has done anything today!

  • nmdasaya on November 17, 2010, 5:23 GMT

    I THINK DAVID HUSSEY SHOULD BE DA REPLACEMENT ,HE AVG OVER 50 IN FIRST CLASS CRICKET! AND HE IS ON FORM THESE DAYS!

  • landl47 on November 17, 2010, 4:25 GMT

    @Raj R Ganesan: that's the strangest piece of reasoning I've ever seen. England thrash Bangladesh. Bangladesh thrash New Zealand. New Zealand hold their own against India, who just thrashed Australia... therefore Australia beat England? Doesn't that sequence put England on top of the chain and Australia at the bottom? Likewise, West Indies get a ton of runs against Sri Lanka, who just thrashed Australia in Australia, and that means the Aussies have their tails up? Mate, you seriously need to take a course in logic. And how's this for logic: the 5 of Australia's top 7 batsmen who played today made 34 runs between them: Watson 6, Katich 1, Hussey 0, North 17, Haddin 10. I guess, by your reckoning, that makes them in red-hot form?

  • on November 19, 2010, 20:26 GMT

    @landl47: Australia's equivalent of England's "Performance Programme" is the Australia A team, which played a series against Sri Lanka A back in July. They often play matches during Australia's winter. So I'm not sure how you can say that " ... Now it's England planning for the future while Australia hangs on, losing matches with players who are over the hill ...". The Australia A programme, plus the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane, are all planning for the future. As for selecting the Test team, I agree that it would be good to see more youngsters in the team, but you can only select them if they are playing well enough, and not many are doing that.

  • landl47 on November 18, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    Nice try, Raj, but all you're really saying is that no matter how bad it looks, the Aussies shouldn't give up hope. England have been in that position on every tour since the mid-1980s and guess what? They've lost every time. If the choice is between a team in form and a team who are hoping that they are better than their recent results indicate, then I'll take the guys playing well. The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.

  • slcricket on November 18, 2010, 8:18 GMT

    judging on the ercent shelid and A games australias best batsman is Mitchell Johnson

  • Meety on November 18, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    @Raj R Ganeson - nicely put. Interesting that it was O'Keefe taht bagged the wicket of KP. In Bangladesh - left arm orthodox got KP in alnost every Test & ODI innings he played (Shakib I think was the main tormentor). So if KP is Oz main threat in batting - maybe Doherty & O'Keefe are worth a look. If we go with left arm orthodox spin option, I would tend to think that we can't play Bollinger & Johnson in the same side, as they would rough up the wrong area of the pitch. Johnson & Bollinger would help Hauritz against the right hand batsmen. I think O'Keefe has got the jump on Smith & Khawaja, I don't think it is quite Fergusons time. If Hussey makes runs in his 2nd innings - I would play him in the 1st Test. North needs the chop.

  • on November 18, 2010, 5:19 GMT

    @landl47 mate let me worry about taking a course in logic .First get your reasoning straight before pointing your fingers towards others .I was emphasising upon the unpredictable nature of the game . I never said australians are in red hot form . all i was trying to say that if australians take leaf out of New Zealand 's book after the unexpected white wash against Bangladesh and show the kind of character that black caps shown against us then Australia should be able to beat England which in my opinion will be a closely fought series . I think you should take a serious course in analytical reasoning before taking a swipe on others . cheers mate

  • on November 18, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    @ landl47 mate nothing is predictable in sports . England are a much improved side these days and if Australia manage to beat them in the first test then we have a serious series in our hands .if it is the other way around then Australia should forget about laying their hands on ashes. We had predicted that India would thrash New Zealand especially after the Bangla wash and look what had happened in the first 2 tests .Test cricket is matter of holding your nerve in the end .the team which does it better at the end of the day is gonna win the series be it Australia or England .Cheers mate

  • nzcricket174 on November 17, 2010, 10:10 GMT

    Want to know why Australia are doing so badly? The selectors. They are selecting the way they used to select. This won't work because they don't have 8-9 100% performers like they used to.

  • Meety on November 17, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    Well the SCG game is a disaster 15 wickets for 150 runs - not much chance of a guide or finding form in that mess. On Form (only) the Oz side should be 1. W Robinson, 2. Cowan, 3. Clarke, 4. O'Keefe, 5. Smith, 6 AB McDonald, 7. Paine, 8. Butterworth, 9. Harris, 10. Swan, 11. Bollinger. Man this 2010 campaign is going from bad to worse, no frontline test contender (Clarke aside), has done anything today!

  • nmdasaya on November 17, 2010, 5:23 GMT

    I THINK DAVID HUSSEY SHOULD BE DA REPLACEMENT ,HE AVG OVER 50 IN FIRST CLASS CRICKET! AND HE IS ON FORM THESE DAYS!

  • landl47 on November 17, 2010, 4:25 GMT

    @Raj R Ganesan: that's the strangest piece of reasoning I've ever seen. England thrash Bangladesh. Bangladesh thrash New Zealand. New Zealand hold their own against India, who just thrashed Australia... therefore Australia beat England? Doesn't that sequence put England on top of the chain and Australia at the bottom? Likewise, West Indies get a ton of runs against Sri Lanka, who just thrashed Australia in Australia, and that means the Aussies have their tails up? Mate, you seriously need to take a course in logic. And how's this for logic: the 5 of Australia's top 7 batsmen who played today made 34 runs between them: Watson 6, Katich 1, Hussey 0, North 17, Haddin 10. I guess, by your reckoning, that makes them in red-hot form?

  • Meety on November 17, 2010, 2:11 GMT

    OMG - Watson + Katich + M Hussey combined for 7 runs @ 2.33. The next cabs off the rank; Hughes, Khawaja, Ferguson, & White have scored 22 runs @ 4.5! Ed Cowan at least scored 31! I am now officially worried! This is as at Midday on Friday 17th! I think this is Smiths & Paines opportunity to be selected as specialist batsmen, how long can Hussey's misery continue????

  • Meety on November 17, 2010, 2:01 GMT

    To me the Oz A v Eng game has been good because; 1. Hughes (I rate him), is out of form, 2. Khawaja - may not be up to it (I rate him too!) 3. Ferguson - not yet. 4. White - no way. These opinions are formed as Oz are 5/75.

  • on November 16, 2010, 21:51 GMT

    If Chris Gayle played for Victoria he wouldn't even be selected in the Aussie squad!

  • on November 16, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    Usman Khawaja in an Aussie test team will be great, i hope he gets an oppurtunity to show his skills

  • on November 16, 2010, 9:10 GMT

    good to see so many persons predicting England to win the ashes.But one has to definitely have a close look at the few on going matches viz NZ vs India ,WI vs SL . Nobody would have predicted NZ to play the way they are playing now especially against the number one test team in the world especially after their horrendous display against Bangladesh .Playing against India in any place is always tough be it here or abroad .They have definitely shown character ,so have WI against the lankans after their stupendous display against the aussies .England are a very good side without any doubt but Australia will have their tails up . 2009 ashes was a closely fought one and I reckon this is going to be a closely fought one albeit in favor of Australia .when NZ can play so well against India especially in the lion's den , I am pretty much sure that Aussies will surely thrash England to lift the ashes

  • Alok505 on November 16, 2010, 8:00 GMT

    well the experince of clarke.hussy ,hauritz & north are not going to help aussies as they are not looking in good form & if aussies try the new faces like khwaja,ferguson,doherty & smith ..then it will be 50-50 chances for them as these guys are new in international test cricket as compare to english team ... i surpried with the team ..england hav the best chance to beat aussied this time ....

  • on November 16, 2010, 6:40 GMT

    Why are people complaining about Steve Smith's selection. If you look at his first class record over the past season (2009/10) He had a batting average of about 77 and a relatively low bowling average. People saying he needs to do something to justify his selection... HE HAS!

  • landl47 on November 16, 2010, 4:31 GMT

    @Darryl Stringer: the performance squad are young players who are here both to play during the English Winter and also to gain international experience at a level below test matches. Sure, if the English test squad has someone break down, a member of the performance squad could be called up, but otherwise they're here to learn as they'll be the next generation of England players. It's the kind of far-sighted policy that the Australians used to be so good at. Now it's England planning for the future while Australia hangs on, losing matches with players who are over the hill and out of form while their young prospects play domestic and county cricket till they're thirty. How times have changed.

  • landl47 on November 16, 2010, 4:21 GMT

    C'mon, popcorn, 'fess up- you're really Andrew Hilditch, aren't you?

  • Don_The_Green on November 16, 2010, 2:44 GMT

    My team is 1. Katich 2. Watson 3. Ponting 4. Hussey 5. Clarke 6. North 7. Haddin 8. Johnson 9. Harris 10. Hilfenhaus 11. Bollinger

    I think that the selectors will not take too many gambles early in the series. That along with The Gabba pitch being very pace fiendly early in the season and rain forecasted for the next week in Brisbane will see the 4 quicks in the side, with an unlucky Nathan Hauritz carrying the drinks.

    My series prediction is 2-2. England (unfortunately) to retain the Ashes.

  • on November 16, 2010, 0:06 GMT

    Shane Watson, Ricky Ponting (capt), Usman Khawaja, Brad Haddin (wk), Nathan Hauritz, Xavier Doherty, Peter Siddle, Ben Hilfenhaus and Doug Bollinger may overcast English counterparts in their respective department. Because of these players both the teams look equivalent and evenly balanced to produce thrilling Ashes for spectators and cricket lovers all over the world. It would be nice if Usman Khawaja gets and opportunity to play for Australia fully in this series. Also, Bollinger should get handful opportunities as he is a player of great promise bowling in the style of Glen McGrath. I know its too early to say but Bollinger maintains a tight line and length with lot of swing and penetration.

  • on November 15, 2010, 21:16 GMT

    Aussies will surely beat england this time.!! watson , ponting , bollinger , hussey and harris are the key players for aussies!!! My team for australia in first test will be: 1.watson,2.katich,3.ponting,4.clarke,5.hussey,6.north,7.haddin,8.johnson,9.harris,10,hilfenhaus,11.bollinger.... north n clarke can be used as spinning options,, aussies ll beat england by 3-1 or 3-0 margin to regain ashes...!

  • David47 on November 15, 2010, 19:11 GMT

    Doesn't matter about the Aus A game, or the Shield games, the selectors will go in with the same old 11 if fit - betch ya! The only way they'll have the goolies to change the side is if somebody gets injured, or when we go two down.

  • anikbrad on November 15, 2010, 18:13 GMT

    ALL 17 PANNICKS NAMED .... 1 TIME IN MY LIFE I HAVE SEEN AUS AT HOME NAMING 17. EVEN TEAMS LIKE INDIA AND PAK WITH LOT OF SELECTION POLITICS STILL SELECT 15 MEMBER FOR HOME SERIES MAX. THE TEAM IS NOT BAD ENOUGH BUT THE LOT OF AUSIS AND SELECTORS ARE PANNINKING AND THTS GIVING WRONG SYGNAL TO THE TEAM. THE TEST RECORD IS STILL NOT BAD ENOUGH TO START PANNICKING SO MUCH. WE MUST UNDERSTAND WITH- MAG/WAR/STEVE/HAYDEN/LANG/ MART/GILLI GOING THEM WILL BE WEAKER AND WILL FACE FEW DEFEATS BUT IT NOT A REASON TO PANIC BUT REBIULD. 17 MEM SQUARD IS A SIGN OF PANIC ---- NOT GOOD

  • on November 15, 2010, 17:24 GMT

    this shows clearly that aussies are under great pressure.................. england(4-0)

  • Biggus on November 15, 2010, 16:22 GMT

    I thought we'd got past that NSW/Vic thing years ago-silly me. There is of course no direct correlation between Shield success and the likelihood of that team providing the bulk of the test representatives. A team of 11 honest tryers can often beat a team with two or three stars plus fillers, but the stars should still be selected for the national side. These conspiracy theories are a bit silly. Those calling for Cameron White and Steve Smith surprise me. These guys are 'leggies' in name only and therefore have to justify their place in the side as specialist test batsmen and I just don't see them as that. They're really only all-rounders in the limited over sense to me. I'd give Hussey, Hauritz and North a game in Brisbane but if one or two of them fail there I'd be whipping in a newbie or two for the next game. Ideally I'd like to see Bollinger, Hilfenhaus and Harris as the selected quicks but lack of fitness may make that impossible. We shall have to wait and see.

  • A_J.. on November 15, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    @Okakaboka... totally agreed with u, buddy. Current Victorian team, is farmost better than the Team selected for d Important Ashes.

  • crick4life on November 15, 2010, 14:30 GMT

    My Oz Eleven for 1st Test 1.Watson 2.Katich 3.Ponting 4.Clarke 5.Hussey 6.Haddin 7 Steven Smith 8.Johnson 9.Ryan Harris 10.Hilfenhaus 11.Bollinger

  • popcorn on November 15, 2010, 14:02 GMT

    excellent selection! THE SELECTORS HAVE GOT ALL THEIR BASES COVERED!

  • on November 15, 2010, 13:18 GMT

    OK, to everyone crying foul over the NSW players in the team, lets have a look. Katich up until the India series where he played with an injury has been great as an opener. Watson isn't really a NSWelshman, and you can't say he hasn't played well recently. Clarke is a really good test player. Haddin a decent keepe/batsman, though I prefer Paine. Khawaja, first class average over 50 (which is ok i guess). Hauritz, before India and injury, had performed above expectations and deserves his chance. Bollinger is probably the best pace bowler in the country at the moment. Smith, while promising, is the only one who probably shouldn't be there. I think these players are pretty worthy of their place. David Hussey is in my mind the only real baffling continuous test omission. And please don't say Hodge, he doesn't even play the long forms anymore! So everyone just grow up and get over the stupid cry baby talk of "only NSW people get picked in the team". Boo frickedy hoo!!

  • JimDavis on November 15, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    No wonder Australian cricket is in trouble. The current domestic 4 day champions can only field 1 player in a 17 man squad. That is a disgrace, but I'm still not sure if it is the Australian selectors disgrace or Victorian coaching staff disgrace. However, the team that easily got the better of a full strength NSW had 6 of the 11 aged 25 or under, so on the face of it youth is getting a go at Victoria. Now either Victoria need to be told in no uncertain terms that the Shield is only there for producing Australian players and not for putting out squads designed just to win titles or the selectors need to start taking notice of what's been happening there for the last 4 or so seasons that they have dominated. At the moment Victoria seems to be a good place to come from if you want to captain an underage Australian squad, but progress after that point does not seem to be being made.

  • on November 15, 2010, 12:25 GMT

    Hilditch is tons better than Greg chappel, Remember what happened to Indian cricket when Greg was the coach. He will want to throw out all the seniors and claim uncapped kids as future stars.

  • on November 15, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    Long term White is captaincy material than Michelle clark :D....the pretty boy cannot lead..as for bowlers Johnson is on his way down hill....he is not the bowler he once was////

  • on November 15, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    Go Oz! Go Oz! Go Oz! Go Oz!

  • on November 15, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    Go Oz! Go Oz! Go Oz! Go Oz!

  • Okakaboka on November 15, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    I still haven't cooled down...... Okay, Hilditch, let's have a practice match. Your Australian team against Victoria. Who do you think would win?????? Hmmmmmmm...let me see!!! Oh, Victoria played this team last week (well almost) and would have flogged them with a bit more time! Well they flogged them for 4 days. Okay, here is a better test squad: Hughes, Katich, Ponting, Clarke, White, Watson, McDonald, Wade, Bollinger, Hilfenhauss, Siddle (or Harris if fit...and he isn't). There is no spinner in the country with any real penetration. White, Katich and Clarke are just as likely to spin a team out as Hauritz and Doherty. This team has 8 genuine batsmen and 5 genuine and 3 part-time bowlers. White Captain! This team doen't need a long-stop either because Wade is behind the stumps.....and we have an excellent slip fieldsman in White rather than butter fingers North...who doesn't bat or bowl.... Someone break the news to him please!

  • on November 15, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    England's touring party is technically 32, not 16 ... as they have their "Performance Programme" squad out here as well, with Jimmy Adams, Ajmal Shahzad (who will probably play in the Australia A v England XI game), Liam Plunkett, Craig Kieswetter and other fringe players. Yes, they are out in Australia for the learning experience, but surely they are also out here as backup in case of injury or poor performance by any of the full Ashes squad. It's no surpise then that the Performance squad will be in Brisbane before and during the First Ashes Test in Brisbane, and then they'll be in Perth for the lead up to the Third Ashes Test ... just in case they are needed there. And people are criticising Australia for being cautious?! I think England take the cake there.

  • Beertjie on November 15, 2010, 11:28 GMT

    I endorse your views, @landl47, Also started following when Richie was captain and also wondering what he's thinking. Hilditch & Co, if this is your squad and you don't want to continue to make an ass of yourselves, have some guts and pick at least one new player for the Gabba - give Khawaja his chance and drop one of Hussey/ North. The second change should be on the basis of the bowl-off between Hauritz and Doherty. That way you won't look sillier than you already are.

  • PRasHanT_PoL on November 15, 2010, 10:58 GMT

    I am REALLY miss CAMERON WHITE...

    This is My team...

    Shaun Marsh, Shane Watson, Ricky Ponting (capt), Cameron White, Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey, Usman Khawaja, Callum Ferguson, Brad Haddin (wk), Mitchell Marsh, Mitchell Johnson, Nathan Hauritz, Mitchell Starc, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, Ben Hilfenhaus, Doug Bollinger.

  • SettingSun on November 15, 2010, 10:26 GMT

    We'll let you play all 17 of those players at once, if you want. You're going to need them!

  • ssm2407 on November 15, 2010, 10:21 GMT

    The Poms must be laughing their socks off! A 17 man squad - what indecisive nonsense from the Aussie selectors. It maybe early days but this series has the feel of 1989 in reverse when the Poms selected 29 players over the course of the summer. And we all know what happened there - a 4-0 trouncing & it took high on 16 years for the aussie stranglehold to be relinquished. The way the aussie selectors are going, it maybe a similar length of time before the Aussies reclaim the urn!!!

  • on November 15, 2010, 10:16 GMT

    Pathetic. Hilditch needs to retire and leave it to greg chappel. Why is doherty in this squad, i think the guy averages high 40's and i see a few people blogging wants ferguson, im sorry but he averages mid 30's and is no good in the longer format of the game, he has been successful in the odi but not shield cricket. I dont think mcdonald is there because of the balance of the side, with watson bowling ok at the moment. I cant believe hughes isnt in the squad although he hasnt made many runs for nsw this year and might have a confidence issue the way the selectors have treated him. Well done khawaja, this guy is screaming out to be selected and should be 1st in line. lovely batsman to watch. O'keefe should have been in the squad also, he has a terrific record and handy batsman.

  • on November 15, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    No White, yet Smith is included. What the heck..

  • on November 15, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    North should be dropped and Usman Khawaja should be given a chance.

  • on November 15, 2010, 9:27 GMT

    Don't Panic! Don't Panic!

  • alf_tupper on November 15, 2010, 9:25 GMT

    Watching the Australian selectors at work one has the impression of being in some sort of alternative universe. Did the Victorian side not just take apart the NSW side, composed in large part by this mob they've selected at national level? How does Smith rate a spot above Andrew McDonald, who has a batting average above Khawaja and is a better bowling bet? How does Smith rate above David Hussey, who's a better batsman and just as good a part time bowler? And spare me the tears about Hughes. Do we need yet another New South Welshman in the side, particularly one whose wayward technique is well understood by England? Poms to win - and deservedly so. Get some new selectors.

  • arvarma345 on November 15, 2010, 9:05 GMT

    what is the role of out of form hilfenhaus&johnson inthe team.

  • arvarma345 on November 15, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    poor selection.not included hodge,dave hussey,cameroon white,nannes,tait,stuart clark.why?unfit player like ryan harris won't give strength to team.

  • Moppa on November 15, 2010, 8:50 GMT

    For all those McDonald fans out there, you do know that he averages 36 over the last two Shield seasons, with 2 centuries and 4 ducks? Khawaja over 08/09 and 09/10 averaged 54 with 5 centuries and 1 duck. Just because he fluked twin tons a fortnight out from the first test doesn't mean McDonald is suddenly the answer to all our problems. We need to break up the Hussey/North middle order dominoes, and Khawaja is the man, not McDonald (or White, Ferguson or D.Hussey for that matter). The last thing we need it to replace North with another guy who won't make runs consistently at Test level and bowls a few handy overs. Still, I'd drop Hussey before North, so my Test team is Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, North, Khawaja, Haddin, Johnson, Hauritz, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger (Harris 12th)

  • on November 15, 2010, 8:17 GMT

    I can't believe the aussie selectors are still giving north a chance. According to Hussey's average u can still keep hopes on him. If i had to select a 15 man squad for the ashes, I would select 1.S.Watson 2.P.Hughes 3.S.Katich 4.R.Ponting (c) 5.M.Clarke (vc) 6.M.Hussey 7.C.Ferguson 8.U.Khawaja 9.B.Haddin 10.R.Harris 11.D.Bollinger 12.B.Hilfenhaus 13.X.Doherty 14.S.O'Keefe 14.M.Johnson 15.P.Siddle

    Please comment on how i have named the squad...

  • on November 15, 2010, 8:03 GMT

    I must admit I am a bit confused by the selection of Xavier Doherty over Steve O'Keefe, and Phil Hughes should have at least been included in the extended 17-man squad rather than Marcus North...otherwise it seems a reasonable squad (although Andrew McDonald just scored twin centuries along with 5 wickets for the match against NSW...)

  • Something_Witty on November 15, 2010, 7:11 GMT

    No Phil Hughes? Wow. Just... wow.

  • Okakaboka on November 15, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    This squad is a total disgrace. I'm too angry to blogg now. Hilditch must be the first to be sacked!!!!!......He is incompetent!!!!

  • on November 15, 2010, 6:58 GMT

    This squad is not enough for ashes series, why you select Steven Smith and Nathan Hauritz both person are recently not well. why not select Victorians players Clint McKay, David hussey and camaron white.

    PLEASE REMOVE Steven Smith and Nathan Hauritz FROM THE ASHES SQUAD......

  • Bleeding_Dog on November 15, 2010, 6:55 GMT

    Usman Khawja all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on November 15, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    what has been the hall mark of the australlian selection policy for long has been the gumption with which they go abaout in choosing the squad without caring for reputations.Now that practice has been long shelved. the ashes selection is baffling. simon katich is injured and has not played an innings post his disastrous perfromance in India. how can a person be chosen for a series as big as "Ashes" on reputation. I never beleive in age being a a criteria,so would not insist on Phil Hughes, but still what about klinger?. Steve smith is not going to play, why choose him. I would have dropped hussey for fergusson. Michael hussey will be a key man in the team for ODI's and T20's. WRT to test matches he is over.

  • on November 15, 2010, 6:45 GMT

    Leave the test squad, the selection squad is a complete joke. Who is this Andrew Hilditch? Since when home team needs a 17 man squad? I think Steve Waugh, Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath, Allan Border, Ian Healy should be in the selection panel.

    This Ashes might be a lost cause for Australia, however this is also the right time to build two world class spinners for next generation. Xavier Doherty, and Steven Smith, although the latter needs to be completely revamped.

    I think Cameron White should take over captaincy for all forms. Ponting's great, but post world cup will see a lot of current aussie players retire, and its time to build for next generation. And Clarke should prove his worth instead of this preferential treatment he is being given now. And Mitch needs to go play club cricket

  • titan_uranus on November 15, 2010, 6:44 GMT

    why is no one talking about smith's inclusion? what purpose does he serve? he is just not good at anything at this level. doherty's the second spinner, hilditch's comments show that. he is behind ferguson and khawaja as the reserve batsmen too. he's a waste of a spot. if they want an all rounder they should pick a decent one, like andrew mcdonald. smith has not earnt his spot.

  • on November 15, 2010, 6:41 GMT

    yes, there have been time times, when Australian Selectors use to announce 11 or 12 players. But we should not forget that this is not the time, when the dominated the world cricket. they are not No. 1, but place at No. 5. OH NO. 5 for Aussies, pity for oz's and ashes is ahead

  • longdonkey on November 15, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    Rosey86 you contradicted your argument. How can you not approve of Ferguson because of his record but then say Doherty is a good selection. Minus Zero reason why Ferguson has only played one Sheffield Shield game this season is beause he was with the Australian team in India perhaps you might consider that working with him there they have seen his quality! Reason why they chose 17 , so they could keep the normal quota of NSW players - 8.

  • on November 15, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    Time Paine did well in India in crisis situations. It's unfair to drop him. But anyway, just can't wait for the Ashes-the mother of all battles to start.

  • landl47 on November 15, 2010, 6:21 GMT

    Incidentally, Hilditch made it clear in his comments that the spinner's position was between Hauritz and Doherty, so why is Steve Smith in the squad? As the ninth specialist batsman?

  • Herbet on November 15, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    oh god, the Ashes is a rugby tournament this year? We've sent the wrong players!

  • Salim_123 on November 15, 2010, 6:10 GMT

    I strongly Phylip Hughes should have been included. How long are going to depend on Katch, Hussey and likes who are now nearing the end of their career. I feel injustice has been done to Phillip Hughes. Lets have some youngsters please if we arelooking at rebuilding our team.

  • THX_droid_adidas on November 15, 2010, 6:08 GMT

    Where oh where is Cameron White?? What the frak were the Selectors thinking, picking a 17 man touring party?? Are they sure they know that the Ashes this year are played in Australia, not in England?? 1: Fire the Selection Panel. 2: Shane Warne as Assistant Coach & Touring Selector. Solves your problems of no selector on tour. 3: Cameron White must be Captain after Ponting. 4: James Sutherland & CA Board, take the initiative and be the Selection Panel!!!

  • Mossop1313 on November 15, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    I am starting to wonder what is going on - 17 man squad 10 days early when everyone except CA know that's ludicrous with a bunch of Shield games in the offing, the form batsman in the country nowhere in sight (McDonald), and a left-arm orthodox with a first class average of 50 in the squad. What about Steve O'Keefe?!?!?! He averages 25 and was good enough a few weeks back for a tour!!!! And as well as being the currently best-performed spinner in domestic ranks at the moment, he bats. Hauritz deserves his spot - contrary to popular beleif he has earned it over the last two years. I can see Harris and Bollinger bracketed, fair enough, but both of them have to be rated suspect at the moment. I gotta say, though its not my habit to knock the selectors, that I am starting to get a tad concerned. Hussey and North MUST be on shaky ground by now - Khawaja's time cannot be far away, and today's McDonald is a far superior bat to the man who played 4 tests 2 years ago.

  • on November 15, 2010, 5:44 GMT

    Cannot believe Cameron White is not in the squad! He has to be in line for future Captaincy/Vice Captaincy honors!

  • piecricket on November 15, 2010, 5:33 GMT

    Good to see Ferguson in the squad.

  • on November 15, 2010, 5:20 GMT

    I would like to see Cameron White back in the side as a batsman. But Khawaja and Ferguson deserve their chance. This will be a tough series I think and the size of the squad shows just how many players are under pressure. Hussey, North, Johnson and Hauritz will be fighting to keep their place in the side.

  • Biggus on November 15, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    Well, the XI I would like to see play are in there, though I doubt that those guys will be the ones who make it onto the park. No way I'd take Johnson into the GABBA test but I bet the selectors do, especially given Harris is reportedly sore after his recent good run and won't play the next Shield game.

  • PRasHanT_PoL on November 15, 2010, 4:57 GMT

    Where Is CAMERON WHITE????

  • Fareen on November 15, 2010, 4:49 GMT

    Good squad,but could have been much better.I completely agree with Samuel,where's Cameron White?He should be the one replacing M.North & should have been in the squad for Ferguson.He's a hard hitter of the ball with terrific temperament.Don't worry about Mike Hussey,he's a big match player,he'll surely do well.And if they could pick Doherty by just 2 ODIs,then White who played Test matches before should have been picked.And Khawaja is a top order batsman,not sure how he will do in the middle order if he gets a chance.And including Mcdonald would have been good,as,if they decide to drop North,they could promote Haddin at No.6 and play Mcdonald @ 7.

  • on November 15, 2010, 4:20 GMT

    where is Tim paine???? After the kind of character he showed in india he should b given d chance ahead of haddin.

  • srivatsan on November 15, 2010, 4:04 GMT

    @@Aditya, You are right!, this selection and omission of D.Hussey, Mckay puzzles me

  • on November 15, 2010, 3:59 GMT

    @Vijaycr It is passing the buck - not bug. We hope the selectors are not passing bugs and infecting Ponting :-) No that would be a a major outbreak :-)

  • on November 15, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    Doherty for Test mactches is a shocking selection as far I am concerned. he is a more than decent bowler but he lacks penetration at first class level. His selection would be a gamble. But he is a whole hearted cricketer (some one like Peter Siddle, gives everything he got).

  • Vijaycr on November 15, 2010, 3:40 GMT

    Ha!! how time has changed. Australia choosing a 17 man squad for a home test? No country does this for a home test... this just shows the selection contrary that the selectors are facing. They just want to pass the bug to the captain and the coach...

  • longdonkey on November 15, 2010, 3:35 GMT

    Steve Smith ???? couldn't possibly play so why pick him?

  • MinusZero on November 15, 2010, 3:25 GMT

    As much as i like Hughes, his omission was no surprise. I dont get though how Ferguson can be picked. The media is all saying how great he is playing but he has only played one Shield game this season, yes he scored a century, but is one innings an indication of form. The only indication it gives is that he is a selector favourite and will probably get in first before more deserving players. Khawaja has played four innings at 84 this shield season and I think also averaged over 60 last year. He should be in the team. Dont give Hussey and North any more chances, they dont deserve it. You can guarantee one or the other will probably get a century in the first test and then they will be free to fail for the rest of the series. Then in the next series, they will be in the team because they are incumbent. It makes me sick. Time for a clean slate selectors or dont expect Australia to rise up the ranks any time soon.

  • chad_reid on November 15, 2010, 3:22 GMT

    looks like a good squad but i wud have included o"keefe and huges in the squad katich plays like a snail and get out without much contribution as for spin option doherty is an ok choice but he is not that good of a spinner but he is better than hauritz everyone is but o"keefe is a much better bowler than doherty he is attacking and doesn't concede much while doherty can get hit for runs and lose his confidence as for smith he is a overrated bowler and doesnt spin the bowl much at all only the selectors see big things in him performance wise his bowling is average

    BOTTOM LINE

    ENG HAVE A HUGE CHANCE TO WIN THE ASHES BEATING AUS IN AUS IS HARD BUT THEY HAVE THE PLAYERS WHO CAN DO IT ACCEPT FOR COOK HE IS A WALKING WICKET

  • on November 15, 2010, 3:20 GMT

    Why is David Hussey not in the mix? What does Clint McKay have to do? Why no more Victorians? Make Shane Warne chairman of selectors and knock some sense into that panel! Greg Chappell on the panel, what a joke!

  • on November 15, 2010, 3:15 GMT

    Ridiculous...one Victorian in the team after they kicked NSW's ass the other day. Lol...I bet Victoria v this squad would be interesting!

  • landl47 on November 15, 2010, 3:08 GMT

    So there you have it- 10 days before the match starts, Australia names more players for the first test than England brought for the entire tour! What with fitness, form and the-selectors-don't-know-what-to-do issues, the team is still completely up in the air. Why on earth would they put on this charade, which resolves nothing? They can't possibly be intending to play both Ferguson and Khawaja (or they wouldn't have picked both Hussey and North), so why pick both of them? One of them as cover for Clarke, sure, but why both? Likewise, the talk has been that they might go into the Gabba with no spinners, yet they have picked three! They have 5 fast bowlers, only one of whom is a higher than #10 bat. Two of them are going to miss out, unless we're treated to the ludicrous spectacle of picking 3 spinners in the squad and none of them playing. When I first started watching cricket, Richie Benaud was captain of Australia. I'd love to hear what he thinks of this mess.

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:58 GMT

    good to see usman khawaja in the mix of things! he was in the squad when pakistan toured england tp play australia in a couple of tests.too bad he didnt get a run then.really looking forward to see him play against england in the Ashes.He deserves a chance.hussey or north need to dropped.the young guns need to be given a chance to prove themselves! cmon aussie selectors show so courage! good luck to usman

  • TrevorHickman on November 15, 2010, 2:57 GMT

    Talk about desperation! Only 10 days to go before the Ashes and the Australian selectors can't reduce their squad to less than 17!? Appreciating that there's always going to be some last minute fitness doubts it's a joke that they can't narrow down selection to 12 or 13. What are they going to learn from a few Sheffield Shield games and a tin-pot game between Australia A and England B?

  • Rosey86 on November 15, 2010, 2:57 GMT

    Cricket Australia put the selectors into a farcical position by sticking to the long held plan to name the squad at a public event on this date. I am not surprised that they chose to go with a large squad to take advantage of the cricket to be played over the next week, still it looks pretty bad on CA behalf. The extended squad pretty much as i expected, covers pretty much all bases. Will put more pressure on the incumbents. Whether they need that pressure i am not sure, but the competition is healthy. My only concern is this. Ferguson, for all his talent and long pedigree at representing Australia at junior levels and in the ODI team, does not have a great FC average. Form may be good at present, but i feel for many other batsmen around the country who are currently playing with superior records. Selecting Doherty is positive. Left Arm Orthodox has been very effective against England in recent years and if he gets the chance, he will take it i have no doubt.

  • NZ-Bonza on November 15, 2010, 2:56 GMT

    Good to see Feguson, Khwaja and the others included in the squad. But I do get the feeling it is just a silencing tactic to get the public off their backs. I see no surprises for the first test. The XI will be: Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, North, Haddin, Johnson, Hauritz, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger. Fior what its worth I think the X! should be: Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Kwhaja, Ferguson, Haddin (Paine has promise but still need another year), Johnson, Hilfenhaus, Harris, Bollinger. ** Hauritz for Harris if he's not fit. But I think he is still not a world class bowler and should only be played like Magill was during the Warne era, only on turning surfaces like Sydney and maybe Adelaide.

  • Joel_ on November 15, 2010, 2:53 GMT

    So Andrew McDonald will have to make back to back double centuries then? What a joke!

  • TimmyF_23 on November 15, 2010, 2:51 GMT

    Good move. I dont see any problem in picking a large squad. Adds a bit of competition for places and improves the performances of everyone. Also a very good squad picked, some good youngsters coming through i.e Ferguson, Smith, Siddle to take Australia into the future. Should be more than enough to beat the poms and regain the ashes on home turf.

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:43 GMT

    Nothing indicates the uncertainty that seems to be dogging the Australian team more than the selection of a squad of seventeen for a single test! Australia is basically trying to cover all bases, though I am not sure how successful they have been with this attempt. The significant moves are Ferguson who looks much better than North and Hussey and is a prospect for the future. I really cannot comment on khwaja but have seen Ferguson bat and he could well be another Damien martyn in the making, but he must first be given a chance and be persisted with. I think Australia are going to find the road back to the top extremely difficult and the sooner they dispense with North and Hauritz and maybe even Johnson, the better for them. How long will people be given chances to prove themselves and how long a rope will North be given? I hope the uncertainty in the selection does not extend to the players and how they approach the first test. England looks better than it actually is . Sridhar

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:40 GMT

    Where the fritz is White in this squad. You can't tout him as future captain if you not even prepared to put him in an extended squad of seventeen. Mcdonald probably deserved to be in this squad too, but to a lesser extent.

  • Sanj747 on November 15, 2010, 2:37 GMT

    Can we have some brave and bold selectors please. Based on what we have seen tp date the conservatism out weighs the need for change. Disappointing as change is what is needed in Australian Cricket. We need a new group of decision makers and a new coach to help take Australia to a new phase in their development. If we have the best 1st class cricket system in the world why don't we make use of it and blend youth with experience. I would start with Khuwaja and Ferguson in the batting group replacing Hussey and North, and have Bollinger (subject to fitness), Hilfenhaus, Siddle and Steve Smith in as the bowlers. Leave Johnson and Hauritz out. Seems like a no brainer.

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:37 GMT

    I simply don't get the hype about Phillip Hughes. He is certainly has the ugliest batting style and in the last 6 months hasn't posted any scores of note. His technical weaknesses mean that any quality bowler who gets it up around the throat will see him straddled spreadeagled across the crease with his back leg outside the leg stump and the bat held out ready to snick the ball behind. His 2 dismissals in the recent Shield game at the SCG will attest that he has not learned anything in the past year and has not put anything into practice to make him a genuine Test class player. If anything his continual worship shows a shortage of genuine openers outside of Katich and Watson. I live in NSW but am amazed that as soon as anyone in a Blue cap puts in a single performance they are ready to get a baggy, look at Cameron's performance at the 'Gabba, anyone could have cleaned up on that deck. Why is Andrew McDonald not talked about, he has smashed tham all over the place especially that WA ton

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:28 GMT

    This squad didn't need to be so big. Smith won't be close to a game. Well he shouldn't be anyway, so leave him in domestic cricket. Doherty is not a great longer version bowler at the moment, so I don't think he would be in the test team. And we probably only needed one of Khawaja and Ferguson. One of them should actually play the first test but we won't go there. Harris and Siddle in the squad to put pressure on Johnson is good, even though Johnson should be dropped too. It almost seems the selectors are picking such a large squad to try to keep everyone happy, but everyone knows that they are too stubborn to change things and are going to have the same team as always.

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:27 GMT

    No Mc Donald again.. what a joke!

    The fella makes 2 tons and takes 3 wickets and still doesn't get in the squad! yet our batsmen are rubbish at the moment and our bowlers find it fun to bowl short outside off stump!

    We will be absolutely flogged in the ashes!

  • deucelow on November 15, 2010, 2:27 GMT

    Talk about put the pressure on Hauritz! The selectors have no concept on how to nurture spin bowlers do they? Looks like the Casson / McGain / Kreuza merrygoaround may be about to start again, with Dohertys inclusion. That Hauritz is on the hook, there's no doubt. What a great position to be in before whats expected to be a tight test series. Particularly when your opposite number is A Mr Swann. Unbelievable really. Surely for better or worse the hierarchy decided Hauritz was their man ages ago? Apparently not. Why hive him a contract, and take him to India if they were going to get the jitters now? Surely much of the experimentation of the last few years, particularly in some areas of the team, was to culminate in this home Ashs series? Once again, apparently not.

  • KurtMorgan on November 15, 2010, 2:20 GMT

    callum ferguson should not be in the test side his first class average is not good enough... Australia should have brought david hussey into the side years ago he should be captain but as hes to old now cameron white should be in there instead of north as vice captain and then take over as captain at a later date... khawaja for hussey... australia should have kept jacques and hodge in the side years ago i dont understand why they were axed so quickly and hussey and north persisted with for so long rogers is also a great first class batsman that should be in contention

  • Grumbler on November 15, 2010, 2:19 GMT

    Doherty has 82 first class wickets at 48.8. Smith has 31 wickets at 49. Hauritz starts to look like Murali by comparison. Perhaps the selectors picked an ODI squad by mistake.

  • FiddyHolt on November 15, 2010, 2:18 GMT

    McDonald and O'Keefe are pretty unlucky to not make this squad... they have got to be better options than North and Smith.

  • kwdael on November 15, 2010, 2:12 GMT

    Good to see the selectors not being driven by what TV wanted, but rather by reality ie that the team is still uncertain. Less power to Richie and his mates!

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:11 GMT

    NO HUGHES ?? Mockery running everywhere. Selectors are pretty biased, Mcdonald should have been included along with David Hussey. Ferguson and Doherty is having a prime time, so i can understand their selection. I am really not getting, why Hughes got dropped ?? All i can see our ASHES team is full of NSW, although i am a NSW supporter but still ........... its way weird. I just hope, we can bring back the urn to home with this Squad.

  • on November 15, 2010, 2:03 GMT

    Come on Aussies You have to Win Ashes by 5 nil

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:59 GMT

    Good idea naming a wider squad, I still feel McDonald should have been in the squad, fair enough to leave Hughes out, you can still bring him in if a opener doesen't play, I think the team is more in doubt then some think, these players (esp the batsmen) aren't named to cover injuries - prob to make this clear is the reason they left Hughes out they are their because they will play if they are in form at the end of next week, Doherty is a good selection , Smith is not - he needs to actually do something to get picked - should have been McDonald over him any day

  • nzcricket174 on November 15, 2010, 1:55 GMT

    Surely Usman Khawaja has to be the first choice replacement for Clarke should Clarke not be fit to play. If you want Australia to be No.1 again you cannot play the older players, no offense to North or Ferguson. You have to take a punt at these younger players. Look what Shane Warne did - he got walloped for over 100 runs without a wicket in his first match - and look what he has achieved. North will not get his century until the 3rd Ashes test. The Ashes may already have been lost by then.

    The bowling attack should be (should all be fit) - Bollinger, Harris, Johnson, Hauritz/Smith/Doherty and Watson. The batting line up should be Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Khawaja/Ferguson and Haddin. IF YOU CONTINUE TO SELECT NORTH YOU ARE DOOMING YOUR CHANCES!

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:51 GMT

    Seems like Australia just want to carry a Spinner for the Sake of Carrying one, on pitches where they don't require one they should use a 4 - Pace attack. The Great West Indies squads did that PLENTY of times and it worked quite well whenever employed.

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 15, 2010, 1:49 GMT

    Great news! I am disappointed not to see Cameron White in the squad as I would have put him ahead of both Ferguson and Khawaja but at least they are thinking of change. I am very pleased to see Xavier Doherty now in contention, though disappointed that they are insisting on a spinner at the Gabba, where spinners go to die. For me, Ryan Harris is the 2nd best bowler in the country behind Bollinger and if picking 3 seamers it should be Harris, Bollinger and Johnson, with no spot for Hilfenhaus. Maybe that is what they will do. I note that with 2 extra batsmen there is also the chance that both North and Hussey could go (or possibly Clarke or Katich if they succumb to injury), which could be exciting indeed. Let's hope that we DON'T go in with the same XI that have been losing so much lately.

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    Hardly the best message for the selectors to be sending - our talent is so limited that nobody's position is certain, hence picking 17 players from which to get 11. Also makes the selectors look very indecisive.

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    My playing 11 will be....

    1.Simon Katich 2.Shane Watson 3.Ricky Ponting (capt) 4.Michael Clarke 5.Michael Hussey 6.Marcus North 7.Brad Haddin (wk) 8.Mitchell Johnson 9.Nathan Hauritz 10.Doug Bollinger 11.Ben Hilfenhaus

  • rick84 on November 15, 2010, 1:45 GMT

    for me best starting XI for Aussies would be Katich,Watson,Ponting,Clarke/Usman,hussey,S.Smith.Haddin,Huritz,Hilfenhaus,Harris and Bollinger. This Is best IX that can beat England.

  • leggetinoz on November 15, 2010, 1:43 GMT

    Firstly no surprises here. I did expect Phil Hughes to be in the squad but i guess this means that Katich is definitley fine.

    Two trains of thought here. The selectors would have preffered until after the Australia A game to make the selection decision and the big squad above is to buy them time to see who is performing well.

    Second is that instead of the above they just didn't want to make any hard decisions and there for give the struggling encumbents a chance to hit form over the weekend and so their selection is justified. These would be johnson, hauritz, hussey and north.

    My thoughts are that it will be the usual Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, North, Haddin, Hauritz, Johnson, Bollinger, Hilfenhaus. With Siddle and harris battling for the final spot if they for some stupid reason go 4 seamers with Siddle getting the nod although i would prefer Harris.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 15, 2010, 1:38 GMT

    JUST ONE CHANGE JASON KREJZA IN PLACE OF ANY OF THE SPINNERS PICK ANYONE OF HAURY OF XAVIER BUT NEED JASON AS HE SPINS THE BALL A LOT MORE THAN COMBINED OF HAURY AND XAVIER AND KEEPING LEFT ARM ORTHODOX FOR KP SEEMS TO BE A REASON WELL THEN PUP WOULD SATIATE THAT

  • Meety on November 15, 2010, 1:37 GMT

    Whilst Hughes is abit unlucky, I think the unluckiest player not o have made the squad is AB McDonald. What more did he need to do? Twin centuries & tight economical bowling, economy = pressure.

  • Donut_Davey on November 15, 2010, 1:34 GMT

    I believe this is a reasonable squad for Australia. Though I still believe Haddin is selected on his batting ability and not his Keeping my Aussie XI 1. Watson 2. Katich 3. Ponting 4. Clarke 5. Kawaja 6. Smith 7. Tim Paine 8. Hilfenhaus 9. Siddle 10. Bollinger 11. Harris. I don't believe there is a good enuff spinner for test cricket so use Smith as the alrounder. Smith is better in the top six anyway. a team with Hussey North and Johnson are basically 3 out all out. England to win 3- 1

  • Josh_Schon81 on November 15, 2010, 1:33 GMT

    The squad looks short of batsmen, especially if an opener goes down. I hope Ryan Harris plays because his form is great - and it's a shame that Rogers is injured.

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:24 GMT

    Is it just me who doesn't understand why Khawaja and particularly Ferguson are getting the nod over Cameron White? White has a more impressive record that Ferguson in 4 day games over a much longer period of time, he has also proved himself in ODI's. White is also arguably the best captain in Australia's domestic scene and can chuck in some overs of spin if required, his tactical and bowling skills added to his strong batting surely give him the edge over someone like Ferguson.

    He's clearly been pencilled in as a one day specialist by the selectors, which I think is atrocious. The last time they had a player like White was in Symonds, an aggressive one day batsman and trusty bowler, look at what happened when he was given his shot in test matches, he became a match winning player.

    It's not like he's too old to kick off his test career either, he's only 27. Really terrible selection issues in the ozzie camp.

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:21 GMT

    The selectors need to realize Hauritz it crap! Steve Smith or Xavier Doherty NEED to play ahead of him. Or drop North for Smith and include an extra quick, then Smith will only need to bowl if needed, and remember leg spinners love Brisbane. PLEASE DO NOT PLAY HAURITZ!!!!! Doherty can bowl, we can take wickets on good pitches, his record doesn't look too flash be he is more likely to trouble the Englishman. And surely Michael Hussey needs to be dropped for a younger, inform batsman.

    My XI would be 1) Shane Watson 2) Simon Katich 3) Ricky Ponting 4) Usman Khawaja 5) Michael Clarke 6) Michael Hussey 7) Brad Haddin 8) Mitchell Johnson 9) Ryan Harris 10) Xavier Doherty 11) Doug Bollinger

    Hilfenhaus will be unlucky to miss out, but he would struggle against the Englishman in Australian conditions.

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  • on November 15, 2010, 1:21 GMT

    The selectors need to realize Hauritz it crap! Steve Smith or Xavier Doherty NEED to play ahead of him. Or drop North for Smith and include an extra quick, then Smith will only need to bowl if needed, and remember leg spinners love Brisbane. PLEASE DO NOT PLAY HAURITZ!!!!! Doherty can bowl, we can take wickets on good pitches, his record doesn't look too flash be he is more likely to trouble the Englishman. And surely Michael Hussey needs to be dropped for a younger, inform batsman.

    My XI would be 1) Shane Watson 2) Simon Katich 3) Ricky Ponting 4) Usman Khawaja 5) Michael Clarke 6) Michael Hussey 7) Brad Haddin 8) Mitchell Johnson 9) Ryan Harris 10) Xavier Doherty 11) Doug Bollinger

    Hilfenhaus will be unlucky to miss out, but he would struggle against the Englishman in Australian conditions.

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:24 GMT

    Is it just me who doesn't understand why Khawaja and particularly Ferguson are getting the nod over Cameron White? White has a more impressive record that Ferguson in 4 day games over a much longer period of time, he has also proved himself in ODI's. White is also arguably the best captain in Australia's domestic scene and can chuck in some overs of spin if required, his tactical and bowling skills added to his strong batting surely give him the edge over someone like Ferguson.

    He's clearly been pencilled in as a one day specialist by the selectors, which I think is atrocious. The last time they had a player like White was in Symonds, an aggressive one day batsman and trusty bowler, look at what happened when he was given his shot in test matches, he became a match winning player.

    It's not like he's too old to kick off his test career either, he's only 27. Really terrible selection issues in the ozzie camp.

  • Josh_Schon81 on November 15, 2010, 1:33 GMT

    The squad looks short of batsmen, especially if an opener goes down. I hope Ryan Harris plays because his form is great - and it's a shame that Rogers is injured.

  • Donut_Davey on November 15, 2010, 1:34 GMT

    I believe this is a reasonable squad for Australia. Though I still believe Haddin is selected on his batting ability and not his Keeping my Aussie XI 1. Watson 2. Katich 3. Ponting 4. Clarke 5. Kawaja 6. Smith 7. Tim Paine 8. Hilfenhaus 9. Siddle 10. Bollinger 11. Harris. I don't believe there is a good enuff spinner for test cricket so use Smith as the alrounder. Smith is better in the top six anyway. a team with Hussey North and Johnson are basically 3 out all out. England to win 3- 1

  • Meety on November 15, 2010, 1:37 GMT

    Whilst Hughes is abit unlucky, I think the unluckiest player not o have made the squad is AB McDonald. What more did he need to do? Twin centuries & tight economical bowling, economy = pressure.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 15, 2010, 1:38 GMT

    JUST ONE CHANGE JASON KREJZA IN PLACE OF ANY OF THE SPINNERS PICK ANYONE OF HAURY OF XAVIER BUT NEED JASON AS HE SPINS THE BALL A LOT MORE THAN COMBINED OF HAURY AND XAVIER AND KEEPING LEFT ARM ORTHODOX FOR KP SEEMS TO BE A REASON WELL THEN PUP WOULD SATIATE THAT

  • leggetinoz on November 15, 2010, 1:43 GMT

    Firstly no surprises here. I did expect Phil Hughes to be in the squad but i guess this means that Katich is definitley fine.

    Two trains of thought here. The selectors would have preffered until after the Australia A game to make the selection decision and the big squad above is to buy them time to see who is performing well.

    Second is that instead of the above they just didn't want to make any hard decisions and there for give the struggling encumbents a chance to hit form over the weekend and so their selection is justified. These would be johnson, hauritz, hussey and north.

    My thoughts are that it will be the usual Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, North, Haddin, Hauritz, Johnson, Bollinger, Hilfenhaus. With Siddle and harris battling for the final spot if they for some stupid reason go 4 seamers with Siddle getting the nod although i would prefer Harris.

  • rick84 on November 15, 2010, 1:45 GMT

    for me best starting XI for Aussies would be Katich,Watson,Ponting,Clarke/Usman,hussey,S.Smith.Haddin,Huritz,Hilfenhaus,Harris and Bollinger. This Is best IX that can beat England.

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    My playing 11 will be....

    1.Simon Katich 2.Shane Watson 3.Ricky Ponting (capt) 4.Michael Clarke 5.Michael Hussey 6.Marcus North 7.Brad Haddin (wk) 8.Mitchell Johnson 9.Nathan Hauritz 10.Doug Bollinger 11.Ben Hilfenhaus

  • on November 15, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    Hardly the best message for the selectors to be sending - our talent is so limited that nobody's position is certain, hence picking 17 players from which to get 11. Also makes the selectors look very indecisive.