Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 2nd day

England fold as 5-0 beckons

The Report by Brydon Coverdale

January 4, 2014

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Australia 326 and 4 for 140 (Rogers 73*, Bailey 20*) lead England 155 (Stokes 47, Siddle 3-23, Johnson 3-33, Harris 3-36) by 311 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Jarrod Kimber's Ashes Report: England downed in one gulp
Just as Alastair Cookie presents Sesame Street's regular Monsterpiece Theatre segment, his near namesake Alastair Cook provided the introduction for another horror show of England batting on the second day in Sydney. Right from the moment that Cook padded up to the second ball of the morning and was lbw to Ryan Harris, this was a disastrous day for England. It was the day on which an Australian 5-0 clean sweep became all but inevitable.

The morning began with Harris, Mitchell Johnson and Peter Siddle all bowling brilliant spells that exploited the seam-friendly conditions, and England's batsmen were flustered, flummoxed and 5 for 23. Not since 1887 have England been five for so few and gone on to win a Test; don't expect the record books to be rewritten. The day closed with Australia extending their lead to 311 runs with six wickets in hand. There is no hurry; three days remain for Australia to finish off England a fifth time.

Chris Rogers was doing his bit and by stumps had moved on to 73, eyeing off a possible third Test hundred. While Johnson, Brad Haddin, David Warner and Steven Smith have gained much of the attention Rogers has, in his understated way, become the highest scorer from either team in these back-to-back Ashes campaigns. Not bad for a 36-year-old who nearly lost his state contract 18 months ago.

Rogers accumulated his runs in brisk fashion, showing the same intent he had during his Melbourne century. He struck nine boundaries and even joined the rare club of players to score a seven, when his edge through the cordon was saved on the boundary and returned to the wicketkeeper Jonny Bairstow, who needlessly hurled the ball at the non-striker's end to add four overthrows to the three Rogers and Michael Clarke had already run. It was that sort of day for England.

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  • England's first innings was only the seventh time in Tests that their top-five batsmen all got out for either a duck or a single-digit score. The last such occurrence came against West Indies at Sabina Park, Kingston, when England's top-five batsmen scored a total of 15 runs, none of them scoring ten.
  • England's top-five wickets managed just 23 runs. This is the lowest scored by a team for the fall of their fifth wicket at the SCG in over 100 years. The three instances of a team scoring lesser than this came in the 19th century.
  • Gary Ballance was Brad Haddin's 20th catch of the series. Haddin's become only the third wicketkeeper to score 400-plus runs and collect 20 dismissals in a Test series. Alec Stewart, 465 runs and 23 dismissals against South Africa in 1998, and Denis Lindsay, 606 runs and 24 dismissals against Australia in 1966, are the other wicketkeepers to achieve this.
  • Chris Rogers hit his fifth fifty-plus score of this Ashes, in Australia's second innings today. He's the first Australia opener since Mark Taylor in 1994-95 to hit five or more fifty-plus scores in an Ashes series.
  • Australia's 311-run lead is already past the highest a team has successfully chased at the SCG to win a Test - a target of 287 runs by the hosts against South Africa in 2006. Among visiting teams, England's 194 in 1903-04, is the highest score in the fourth innings to win a Test at the SCG.

At stumps, Rogers had helped push Australia's total on to 4 for 140 and George Bailey, perhaps playing for his Test career, was on 20. Earlier, James Anderson had pitched the ball full enough to trouble the batsmen, having David Warner lbw around the wicket for 16 and Shane Watson brilliantly caught by a diving Bairstow. Stuart Broad also drew an edge behind off Michael Clarke for 6 and Ben Stokes had Smith caught at slip for 7.

In isolation, it seemed a decent period for England. But, to butcher John Donne, no session is an island. By the time tea arrived with the loss of England's last wicket, they had lost 9 for 147 from their overnight position. They were lucky to even make that many. All that could be said for their batting was that they avoided the follow on - just. Their 155 was their lowest total since their first innings of the series.

None of their top five batsmen reached double figures and while the pitch offered some seam movement it was not extravagant; Australia's bowlers just exploited it far better than England's attack had on the first day. Bowl full, let it swing and if it doesn't it might seam. Draw the batsman forward. It was textbook stuff. From the moment Cook padded up England were in disarray.

The ball angled across Cook and straightened, but at no point did Cook appear interested in using his bat, and Aleem Dar's finger was up almost before Harris had even turned around to ask the question. England's 2 for 8 should have become 3 for 8 when Ian Bell edged his first ball to slip off Harris but was reprieved by Watson, who spilled a chance he should comfortably have taken. It barely mattered, for Australia were creating so many opportunities that it was only a matter of time.

The nightwatchman Anderson was worked over by Johnson. Bouncers lobbed off the bat into gaps, another one jammed his right hand onto the handle of the bat and when Anderson edged a regulation catch to second slip off Johnson he must have been glad to get out of there.

Ben Stokes' fighting innings ended when he left a delivery from Peter Siddle, Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 2nd day, January 4, 2014
Ben Stokes showed some fight but not even he could save England © Getty Images

Three for 14 became 4 for 17 when Kevin Pietersen was drawn forward by the impeccable length of Harris. On 3, Pietersen drove hard and edged Harris to slip, where Watson held on this time. His drop of Bell wasn't costly in any way either, for on 2 from 32 balls Bell edged behind off a lovely delivery from Siddle that moved away just enough.

There had been other close calls - a couple of reviews, a few balls that didn't go to hand for the fielders - but at 5 for 23 England's all-time lowest Test total of 45 looked in danger regardless. It took two of England's newest Test cricketers, Stokes and the debutant Gary Ballance, to fight and steer the team to lunch without further loss, although a Johnson bouncer to the helmet left Ballance uneasy just before the break.

Soon after it he was outdone by Nathan Lyon, who had Ballance prodding forward and edging behind to Haddin for 18. At 6 for 62, England weren't even halfway to avoiding the follow-on. Bairstow tamely drove Siddle straight to the catching man at short mid-on for 18 and later in the same over Stokes was bowled shouldering arms to Siddle.

At least Stokes had really shown something, driving confidently and ticking the scoreboard over on his way to 47. He has been the stand-out player for England since his debut in Perth, but he cannot carry the team on his own. Scott Borthwick tamely edged Harris to third slip for 1 and it was only through the last pair, Broad and Boyd Rankin, that England moved past the follow-on target.

It was largely academic, for Clarke would surely have batted again anyway. Broad whacked a few late boundaries in his 30 not out before Johnson bowled Rankin for 13. Johnson, Siddle and Harris finished with three wickets each, and finished any hopes England had of avoiding a clean sweep. Alastair Cook - or Cookie - has rarely presided over a more monstrous day.

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Posted by mzm149 on (January 5, 2014, 5:51 GMT)

England need to play with India to regain their confidence. They beat them in last encounters at home and away. Whitewashing India away from there home is not that tough.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 5, 2014, 3:30 GMT)

Aviral_Ashok; Wow make it sound so scary, fact is next series is here Ashwin averages 80 in Australia. No world spinner is averaging below 40 here (probably not even under 50). Lyon as such is very respectable and clearly outbowled Ashwin over here. You might need to come up with another plan. PS yes you scored 13 more runs than South Africa but also lost 13 more wickets.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2014, 1:43 GMT)

Rogers come on. Post a double century.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 5, 2014, 1:39 GMT)

@Wapuser: A clean sweep has only happened 2 times in 100+ years, it is about to be three. On all of those ocassions Australia has walloped England. That goes to show that England just don't have the stones nor the ammunition to be able to do it to Australia.

Posted by Haz95 on (January 5, 2014, 1:17 GMT)

@AVIRAL_Ashok, I'm just a neutral observer but that claim is out of this world..'best spin attack', you've had one world class spinner[barely] who performed against minnows...He wouldn't rank among Murali, Saqlain and Shane etc. 'ashwin, jadeja and ojha , amit mishra', please they would have no answer to Ajmal and co. Paks weaker spinners, Hafeez and Afridi would make it into any XI on bowling alone....Tests, ODi or T20s Ajmal> a country mile Rehman>Jadeja..proven a lot more so far Z Babar>Ojha..Babar capable to be Ajmal level Afridi>Mishra...7/12 anyone?

Anyway Australia's pace attack is proving formidable but for how long though? We'll see how mitch and co. are up against Steyn and co. England will go home and regain form I believe and will prove to be a formidable opponent again...Seems as tho South Africa in tests are the only team which isn't a Home bully. Then teams like PAK or England to some extent are, in ODis and T20s.

Posted by Biggus on (January 5, 2014, 0:50 GMT)

@AVIRAL_Ashok:- I watched plenty of that SA series and I stand by my comments. Sorry but we're not quivering in fear at the prospect of playing India down here. No need for me to 'get ur knowledge widened!!!' as you put it, I've been watching the game since 1972, about 20 years longer than you've been alive. We'll beat you and we'll do it easily, whether you believe it or not.

Posted by   on (January 5, 2014, 0:33 GMT)

Australia looking one more time to take a 500+ run lead and have two days and a session to wrap the game up to make it an easy 5-0. The aggregate series winning margin should be something like 1000 runs and 8 wickets.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 23:50 GMT)

India is only a challenge in India. Last time they were here they rolled over had their tummies tickled. Australia has a similar problem away from home. South Africa is the team that seems to be able succeed in all conditions. They are the benchmark.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (January 4, 2014, 23:46 GMT)

@BIGGUS: I normally appreciate constructive criticism in any walk of life, more so in sports. Your comments defy logic and is centred around hate, ignorance and petty short-sightedness. The 1-0 loss for India in SA is actually as good as a victory for a "young and inexperienced" team. They faced the world's best bowling attack in their own backyard and came out dignified and proud. Many of our young batsmen made 100s in totally alien conditions on their first trip to SA. So give credit where it's due. This Australian team is far from being a champion side. Playing on trampoline pitches with poorly maintained moustaches doesn't make for a world class team or world class bowler. I am sure you get my point.

Posted by pinch-hitter75 on (January 4, 2014, 23:26 GMT)

5 tests on and finally England try to play like Australia....first five score 25, the rest 130, what a recovery! England may have one Stokes, but eleven Aussies are well and truly stoked, as they have been since November. 5-0 is honestly the lone true reflection of this sorry mismatch of both skill and psychology.

Posted by ModernUmpiresPlz on (January 4, 2014, 22:32 GMT)

@wapuser I like your optimism. I'm sure England will win 5-0 against Australia one day. Perhaps even this century.

Posted by HabeebRaja786 on (January 4, 2014, 22:16 GMT)

England has been totally outplayed in the series.I

Looking forward to Australia visit to SA.I believe SA will the series with some fight.SA pace attack is at same level, i mean the playing one.Both team does nit have a quality spinner.SA batting is way superior to Australia.I do not think SA will ever let them score 300 plus once any tram will be 5 down bellow hundred.

At the same time, India in England this summer will be a very close contest as well.India has a batting which can score against any bowling in almost any conditions.India lacks a good seam attack but I think Shami will be a handful in english conditions.

Posted by ofthedeepbluesea on (January 4, 2014, 22:14 GMT)

@Reuben Braithwaite and others - Aus didn't win the last series in SA, it was a draw (1-1). Aus won the ODIs 2-1.

Posted by jb633 on (January 4, 2014, 21:52 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster, I guess your predictions after three years of bashing England were always going to be right eventually. Your guys should surely beat us 5-0 next summer and anything below that will be a huge bottle from India right?

Posted by TheKeeper on (January 4, 2014, 21:43 GMT)

IMHO the England captain has been tactically very poor in this series. He has failed to read key situations in the game and obviously is no leader of men, because if he were, he would have read the game batter and asked/instructed his players to play to a game plan that was appropriate for that situation. His desire may be to win, but to win a test match you need to first win the key/majority of little battles out in the middle first, for which Cook had no strategies.

When England came out to bat yesterday they had no plans and didn't bat as the situation demanded. Simple test match batting: Leave everything outside the V and only play those balls pitching inside the 4m V, and play them very close to the body. KP came out swinging from the hip. Faced about 15 balls and tried hard to hit every ball out of the park. Lol, what a fool he looked like? And this when your side is 14 for 3 and needing you to see-off the danger - showed England's lack of a solid plan to overcome the odds.

Posted by Garp on (January 4, 2014, 21:33 GMT)

Yeti Capt. Meanster one out the many problems with this current England team is living and resting on past accomplishments. They lack the dedication and desire to stay on top of their game. Once a break in the schedule comes along there all on it for every single second available. Such is the reason England is down 5 nil. They won a closely contested Ashes series last summer and then were off for nearly 4 months. After 3 of those months the team should of reassembled and began training as is the normal in any other sport. However this lot doesn't believe in preparation and isn't about to give up something as precious to them as off time for the idea of going into a series prepared. They'll offer up we've reason possible to suck up every day that isn't scheduled for playing. The sad part is this isn't the first time we've seen the exact same thing, last test played, series won, go on extended break, leave for tour with not even 1 training session, get completely embarrassed in series.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 21:20 GMT)

@Nutcutlet, Rogers may well play 30 tests just yet, if not more. There are some guys out there whose game doesn't really diminish so much with age, just look at Kallis, Chanderpaul and Hussey, you get the feeling they could go on forever and perhaps if we are lucky Rogers will be another in the same vein.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 4, 2014, 21:07 GMT)

Well played Australia. I suppose the good news is that there's only a day or 2 to go and we're put out of our misery. Comical leave by Stokes but he has much less than others to feel ashamed about.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 4, 2014, 21:07 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster on (January 4, 2014, 16:34 GMT) Let's face it the only team who hasn't been on the end of hammerings in the last 3 years is SA so all modern teams are vulnerable. If Aus played in India next they'd probably struggle again but I'm sure they'd do better than they did last time out. If the series was to take place in Australia who knows? Australia won the last home series 4-0 and lost the last away series 4-0. India seem to be in a good place right now and maybe they will give us a hammering when they visit this year? BTW it would be nice if for once you gave a team credit for performing well rather than just constantly berating whoever is losing. There are players/teams besides India(ns) who have played outstanding cricket and while Eng are rightly being lambasted , guys like Haddin,Johnson,Harris and others have been outstanding

Posted by JG2704 on (January 4, 2014, 20:57 GMT)

@milepost on (January 4, 2014, 7:54 GMT) Nice to see you're not getting too carried away by it all there and continuing your usual modest approach

Posted by gtch on (January 4, 2014, 20:37 GMT)

Here, here biggus & basball, love the comments. Can the Indian lovers leave the self gratification alone for 10 seconds. You know you go blind from that! I see there is no Perth test against india in the up coming series. Running scared when I the ball bounces above your knees perhaps? Another case of BCCI controlling the game in the best interests of an average at best Indian team.

Posted by zzby on (January 4, 2014, 20:34 GMT)

Aussi no.3 batting spot is issue...

Posted by Jaffa79 on (January 4, 2014, 20:07 GMT)

Cpt.Meanster...good to see you hooking into the England team there mate! I can't defend their recent performances but please please do remember that India are dreadful EVERYWHERE in the world. Anywhere the ball bounces above stump height usually is enough to defeat your band of flat track bullies. You are right to say that the Aussies can't play on slow/low tracks but India can't play on anything other than slow/low tracks! England drew 1-1 last time in SA, beat the Aussies last time over there and beat India in India. We may have been dire (and boy have we been!) but you should stop talking as if India care about Test cricket; its all about the hit and giggle pyjama stuff for you guys eh? You can only win on dustbowls at home and getting whitewashed away is standard practice.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 20:01 GMT)

I would only say Wait till India would be hammered in England this summer! Talking about the best spin attack! This spin attack is only effective in India! Javed

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 19:50 GMT)

England couldn't hold number 1 spot for long,what a team,atleast india hold that spot for more than couple years.

Posted by Batmanian on (January 4, 2014, 19:46 GMT)

This England team doesn't deserve to bat today. The healthy run rate from Rogers and co. sure gives Clarke options… England would struggle to chase down 150 and barring a miracle 300 is far beyond them, but I'd like to see them cop 550 anyway. with two days-plus to survive. I wonder what Bailey can do turning the screws here; combined with the upcoming limited overs stuff, he could remain on the Test books yet.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 19:43 GMT)

Another pitiful display by England. The only credit has been gathered so far by Stokes. I will be amazed if this series isn't lost 5-0. Poor.

Posted by insightfulcricketer on (January 4, 2014, 19:39 GMT)

I think the adage a test team is as good as its openers is very true. Whenever any team has settled openers it will invariably will do well especially away. For the simple truth it has the middle order coming out when the bowling is mellower.This series the Aussie openers have turned a new leaf while English ones have wilted. Plus English (as any touring team to Antipodes does) team got rattled by Aussie aggression and they never recovered -they commendably fought tback last time after Siddle's hat-trick and silenced the Aussies -did not happen this time.I still do not think seeing Warner,Watson, Smith ,Bailey and Lyon in one lineup that they are going to be world-beaters - the upcoming SA tour will be a more true depiction of this Aussie team's strength.If they come out trumps then good on them.

Posted by Ashokdmightyindian on (January 4, 2014, 19:39 GMT)

Okay Guys lets bring down d equation to see who is the best!!!! in the last one year, england has beaten india , SA beat india and now australia beat england . so d toppers are as follows-- SA AUS & ENG. but wait !!! in d midst of all this I forgot india beat aus !!!! so re-equating!!! 1-SA 2-IND 3-AUS 4-ENG the best possible result!!!

well we have this year's equation too !!! but it wud be unfair to predetermine !!!!

Posted by AVIRAL_Ashok on (January 4, 2014, 19:27 GMT)

@BIGGUS talk isn't cheap dera.The team which just lost to saffas were not experienced a all and in d midst of all d criticism gave a tough fight and showed why India has world's best batting lineup .the indians were the highest run getters in the series!! so get ur knowledge widened!!! and as far as or bowling department is concerned, yes we don't have d world's best pace attack but BEST SPIN ATTACK . yes it is . and to remind u again dere names-- ashwin, jadeja and ojha , amit mishra. who do u have as spinners?? no one!! all below pars. so mind what u are speaking!!!! it will be great to see ur bowling attack destroyed by our batsmen. and then fold u up with our spin . he he. so better armour up dear. your worst nightmare is here!!!

Posted by mzm149 on (January 4, 2014, 19:18 GMT)

I am waiting for upcoming test series in South Africa, where this Australian side will thoroughly trouble South Africans. I am not saying they will win the series for sure. But they wont let South Africa run away with the win easily. Last two encounters between the two sides suggest how closely matched they have been.

Australia has a complete stock of quality fast bowlers. Johnson, Harris, Siddle and Watson are just a few. They have Starc, Pattinson, Hilfenhaus, Bird, Faulkner, Coulter-Nile, Henriques, Cummins, Cutting, McKay and Bollinger in reserve.

Australia has found the right batting combination. The credit goes to Lehmann who has completely revitalised this team after India and Ashes fiasco.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (January 4, 2014, 18:59 GMT)

@PutMarshyOn: However you butter it, this whole England team is woeful. I mean, I have seen teams play bad before but this England team don't know what they are doing on the field. You say "any win in India should be taken seriously". Glad you feel that way cause some cricket fans outside of India think playing in India is "irrelevant" or not "proper cricket". I don't wish to name those people here but I have heard some absolute rubbish spewed on these forums from some fans. India is the ABSOLUTE challenge for any non-Asian team. England deserved their 2-1 victory there. It's also good that win came under Cook cause that's all the protection he has from being axed. You are also a bit right about the Aussies. This same Aussie team will be smashed if they played in India right now. They still don't know how to play spin or on slow/low tracks. Still, England's good time is done. Sadly, it only lasted for a while.

Posted by PutMarshyOn on (January 4, 2014, 18:15 GMT)

Easy there @Cpt.Meanster. They are in freefall now, mainly down to the excellence of the Aust pace trio, but Eng were undeniably a good side. Any win in India has to be taken seriously. Aust budding? As much as I'd like to I can't agree. The batting is still brittle, even the 1 star player has done nothing for the last 3 games, and Aust can't rely on Haddin forever. The pace attack is 30+. At their peak, true, but won't be around for too much longer.

One of the interesting developments has been the form of Haddin & Rogers. In the absence of youngsters knocking the door down is it time to bring back Cameron White, Marcus North - experienced guys to help with the transition as Haddin, Rogers, and maybe even Clarke, stand down.

Posted by wapuser on (January 4, 2014, 17:04 GMT)

England were undone by the lack of consistent pace and bounce which they were used to back in England I think that was the main culprit for there poor performance apart from that this Aussie side is not deserved to win 5_0. Next time around England will clean sweep Aussies

Posted by salazar555 on (January 4, 2014, 16:42 GMT)

Cook needs to be looking around the dressing room at who is up for the fight and who is cowering away. It will give him an idea of who he wants to go forward with.

As an England fan, this has been painful and I'm glad It's almost over. At least I won't have to listen to Warne's whiney voice any more.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (January 4, 2014, 16:34 GMT)

So there we have it then. The TRUE colours of England finally exposed by a budding Aussie team. England fooled and flattered for the last 3 years but their time is up. As always they will lay claim to poor form or other issues, but the fact is, they were NEVER good enough to begin with. It's just that other teams played poorly that made England look good. Coming to think of it, it's actually true. India were poor in 2011 and made England win, Australia were inconsistent and lacked confidence in the previous Ashes tests and ensured England emerged victorious. But, SA, Pakistan and NZ made this England team look ordinary. English fans should have seen the cracks then and there. Instead they cajoled and heaped blind praises on their team. This is a team filled with bits and pieces players. Only KP and Bell are worth any salt but their time is also up. Stokes is a Kiwi so that doesn't make him English. So where is all the talent in England ? Makes me wonder. 5-0 will be completed tomorrow.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 16:30 GMT)

Mitch Johnson dented the psyche of pommies and that's the essence of the story.. Legendary KP too could not help revive their fortunes..

I'm however glad that all cricket fans rejoice as the quality of cricket has gone up by several notches and all teams are now forced to learn battle-ready combative skills..

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 4, 2014, 16:22 GMT)

The more I see of Buck Rogers, the more I realise that age-ism has no more place in cricket than it does in other fields of human activity. All those skills learnt in the Test wilderness are now bearing a handsome late harvest. His batting in the second innings was a clear testimony to the worth of the old-style professional. What would England not give to have someone with his skills and unflustered temperament? There's no one in the current England lineup that comes anywhere near his value to his side (but, on reflection, that not saying a great deal!). I am full of admiration for him & his achievements; he should have played 30 Tests, at least!

Posted by AbbasFaisal on (January 4, 2014, 16:15 GMT)

England are not a bad team. They just get scared too easily. Like they were from Ajmals teesra when they faced PK in UAE and here again by the ruthless Australian aggression. That said, AUS are not a very good side, they have to be tested before being claimed to be all set to rule the World by the Australian Commentary, they will be exposed in SA in Feb.

Posted by samincolumbia on (January 4, 2014, 15:39 GMT)

The only player from England that has shown some fight is Stokes and he is not even english. On current form, Stokes home team, New Zealand would easily beat this ragtag outfit of home/foreign players.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 15:33 GMT)

The australian team players, including coach and selectors have worked wonders by winning all 4 matches in a row. This was the same team almost 3 months back where they were beaten comprehensively by england but hats off to them since they did not lose hope, had complete trust in themselves and worked very hard and now they have ashes trophy in their deck....england, on the contrary looked very hopeless and players like trott and swann have to give up.......Strange sportsmanship from england, one of the great teams in the world....

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 14:55 GMT)

Aussies are playing team cricket - all batsmen contributing at different times (the least being Bailey who is fairly being questioned), and bowlers bowling in partnerships. Fielding has been great as well. Not many Hall-of-Famers in the team but they are a good TEAM - much better than England. Even in England they were setting themselves for a good return series, and that's what they have produced.

A champion team beats a team of champions every time.

Posted by RuhulChowdhury on (January 4, 2014, 14:50 GMT)

I think what's more shocking than 5-0 is the absurd batting performances from Cook, Bell and KP. I remember not so long ago this England batting lineup was considered as the best out there with these 3 blazing away. Is it a psychological problem or Johnson's sheer pace or simply end of an era for England? Test cricket needs all the test-playing nations to keep a good standard in order to survive. At the moment only South Africa look truly world-class and Aussies and India-when they play in their own backyard

Posted by wapuser on (January 4, 2014, 14:42 GMT)

Aussies are at their best, most important thing these Australian pitches producing results.

Posted by msdhoni123 on (January 4, 2014, 14:40 GMT)

i seriously doubt Australia batsmen will do well against South Africa and co. Only clark and rogers will do well against South Africa. You need techically strong batsmen to face Steyn nd Co. Only reason some Indian batters done well against South Africa was because the top order Vijay and Pujara left the bowl well. Warner,Watson is a similar batsmen to Dhawan. There too aggressive which will be there downfall. but if Australia manage to blunt there fasts bowlers Steyn morkel and philander Australia got a better chance of scoring high especially against the spinners. If Aussies approach the same SA pinner same way like they approached england spinners it wll be a high scoring games. Bowling wise Johnson and co will have to work very hard to take down the South African batters cheaply. Thanks to the Indian bowling attack up to number 8 of South Africa batting are in a good form. Barring Amla who is too good to not to score for two consecutive series. It will be a mouth watering ser

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 14:29 GMT)

Just like to go back to the 4-0 drubbing of India in 2011. England were being hailed at the team that was on par with the West Indies of the 70s & 80s and the Australians of the 90s. Set to rule the cricketing world for a decade it was claimed. The reality was England beat an ageing and disinterested Indian side that had just won the World Cup on specially prepared green tops using a seaming Duke ball. England were brought to earth a few months latter being whitewashed by Pakistan. Truth of the matter is England are somewhere near the bottom just above New Zealand, West Indies and Bangladesh.

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 4, 2014, 14:18 GMT)

Rankin, Balance and Borthwick are being hard done by in this test. They have had no cricket for over a month and then they're thrown into a test side depleted of any confidence.

If England selectors were smart they'd give them all an entire series to impress and leave any judgements far and away from this test match. But then again England selectors aren't exactly smart just ask Nick Compton

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 13:36 GMT)

just to add, in terms of this test match, the game is well and truly up, even if Eng bowl out of their skins and get some luck, they'll still be chasing minimum of 400 against the rampant aussie attack...In that scenario, I'd agree with a earlier poster in that Eng should then blaze away and give it a go...they're not going to get the runs so might as well go down all guns blazing than try and go behind their bunkers and get blown away!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 13:32 GMT)

Big congrats to the Aussies who have been ruthless in this series when it has mattered, but a word of warning to any aussie fans watching, they are a decent team playing abpve their abilities IMO, their batting still looks frail and I think South Africa will exploit that in their forthcoming test series, and the engine room of the Aussie team, Rogers, Clarke, Watson, Haddin, Johnson & Harris are moving into the autumn of their careers, and judging by what I've read on the state of domestic Shield cricket, the talent pool, more especially the batting, looks very thin

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 13:32 GMT)

The batting?.....well, Cook has to stay (but not neccessarily as captain), Root has to be his partner as he's a natural opener and will only get better with time. Bell has had a poor series but is still an excellent batsman...KP?.....still a real talent but his match winning knocks are becoming more infrequent with each series and it might be the right time to call time on his test career.....Trott is almost certainly finished as a test player....Bairstow fails to convince in the longer form of the game in all disciplines, I still think Prior's the man for the time being. Carberry is a waste of space as a test batsmen, he looks visibly terrified every time Mitch Johnson gets the ball in his hand.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 13:31 GMT)

An utter shambles again by the batsmen.....Where do we go from here?.....I'm not too worried about the bowling, it's been generally ok, Broad has been excellent, Stokes good, Anderson has been ok without much luck.......Finn needs to get back in the fold during the summer (hopefully he'l open in the forthcoming ODI series.......I reckon Tredwell should provide the spin contribution (I know he's knocking on a bit, but he's worth a go for the next 18 months/2 years, and he really should've played here)

Posted by shot274 on (January 4, 2014, 13:31 GMT)

England have had a very very poor tour!And thats that. All those saying that Pieterson, Cook , Anderson are in decline need to be a little less fickle. Things happen in this game which are inexplicable sometimes.

Posted by slash29 on (January 4, 2014, 13:12 GMT)

@Henry_Crun @AidanFx Here come the Phil Hughes supporters club! The guys last 12 Test Innings amassed a whopping 230 runs @ 20.90 with a SR of 25.41..."a couple of failures". If selectors make that mistake again we can watch "one of the best batsmen in the country" play inside the line of regulation off spin and back away from any delivery he can't cut. I agree that Bailey is playing in his last Test, a position he has maintained due to a winning side, but if you think the answer is Hughes...your backward step is bigger than his! Put your stock in Silk and Maddinson, they're the future 3 and 5!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 12:53 GMT)

@Purist_fan FYI Steve Waugh had scored 10000 test runs mate!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

England failed dearly because they failed to apply themselves in testing has lot to do with their concentration and leaving the ball.they are not at all up for the challenge right from the first test match.aussies just shown that what a team can do from no where.england were depending on cook too much in batting and anderson in bowling that led to their downfall.the big positives for the england team is joe root and ben stokes..

Posted by MarinManiac on (January 4, 2014, 12:23 GMT)

It is all about irony, folks. The bright side for England. Anyone get 50:1 odds on 5-0 Oz at the beginning??? You're laughing, whoever you cheer for....

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 12:19 GMT)

@@wellrounded87 I guess you've missed all the Aussie declarations and chased down targets then? Australia haven't needed to score 400 .

While we're on stats, England have managed to pass 200 only 4 times and 300 only twice.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 12:15 GMT)

Hey EricVD, the last time we played SA was at the Wanderer's in Jo'burg in 2011...and Pat Cummins was MOTM after he filleted the SA top order on the way to an Australian victory. So glad that you remember it well!

Posted by dharam_16 on (January 4, 2014, 12:13 GMT)

It seems new world record would be set by the AUSSIE bowlers by taking all 100 Englishmen wickets in an ashes encounter (for a five match series). And most importantly its an unchanged bowling lineup. Awesome!!!!!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 11:50 GMT)

@Carol Martin J : I guess you're not counting the last time Australia toured SA and beat them 2-1?

Posted by ram_krish1976 on (January 4, 2014, 11:48 GMT)

England team should recover from their mental stress. They should come out of their fears and worries. They have the ability to do well.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 4, 2014, 11:45 GMT)

@rickyvoncanterbury : Agreed.. the great English cricket team definitely needed a grounding. Thanks Aussies for doing that :). This year will be even more fun!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 11:44 GMT)

Night watchman is not a rule and so can't be "done away with". It's the captain's choice. It is completely different from the injured player's runner ... which was a rule and which was rightly abolished. And yes, sending Anderson out was pathetic. To his credit though, he lasted longer than the top order.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 4, 2014, 11:43 GMT)

@MaruthuDelft: Does SL have any proper cricket team? :)

Posted by Assertive-Indian on (January 4, 2014, 11:41 GMT)

From these results it looks that England are simply incapable of playing decent cricket for a long time to come. Their present stars are in complete decline and stand humiliated and demoarlized. I suspect that pretty soon most of them will announce retirement. However, the future seems to be very bleak, because there is simply no talent available in county cricket. If Ballance and Stoaks are going to form the nucleus of future English team, then Bangladesh will probably defeat them. My advise to English fans: no point in following cricket anymore. Football and Rugby will probably bring you more joy...

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 4, 2014, 11:37 GMT)

@biggus: Agreed that Indian bowling is nothing to write home about. However, the performance of this young new look Indian lineup has been spectacular in foreign conditions against a quality team. Compare this to the whitewash, nay, plasterwash of England by Aussies. Funnily I was wondering what is worse, Indian bowling or English batting :).. I do have to say that English batting is much worse! That, my friend, is the definition of laughable.

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (January 4, 2014, 11:33 GMT)

@ Sam Kumar, Why are you wailing? You haven't actually said anything rather than advising!!! Yes. An honest and knowledgeable Indian fan would accept it; 80 years have gone by; India is yet to send to the field 'A Proper Test Cricket Team'; but the worse is India is not even close to doing that.

Posted by baseball_sucks on (January 4, 2014, 11:32 GMT)

Personally, I don't care one hoot about India's batting line up or bowling or pitches or anything to do with India. This is THE ASHES! It's bad enough the BCCI dictates terms to world cricket, does every comment of every series have to have something to do India as well!?

Posted by EricVD on (January 4, 2014, 11:27 GMT)

Enjoy the series win Australia, you deserve it, but before you get big heads for whitewashing the Pommies, just remember where you are coming next; to South Africa. Haven't forgotten the last time you played us have you?

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 4, 2014, 11:23 GMT)

I really hope some of our friends from distant lands can share the spirit of cricket and keep our feet on the ground, by telling us how good they are.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 11:19 GMT)

Surely the most disturbing aspect of the series is that Australia has never been tested - the lack of fight from the 'English' has been disturbing. Still thats what happens when you recruit a bunch of Africans - front-running collapse merchants!

Posted by Mervo on (January 4, 2014, 11:16 GMT)

I still wonder why the best players for England are still imports. Balance from Zimbawbe and Stokes from NZ. One could go on. Young cricketers born and coached in England must be quite depressed by being supplanted by imports. They should be called the Colonial Team perhaps? A title once reserved fro the Australians, but no longer.

Posted by Mervo on (January 4, 2014, 11:13 GMT)

Rodgers was ignored by the not too smart Australian selectors for many years. he scored heavily in first class cricket here and in England and is one of the few playing with an average just a smidgen below 50.00. He earned his place but was over looked for a long time for 'young guns', without the technique or the attitude. Well done Chris.

Posted by jb633 on (January 4, 2014, 11:12 GMT)

What on earth is going on with this side. We need to change everything because this is simply unacceptable. This is a huge crisis and we can't ignore or ever forget this has happened. Whatever happens in the future of or game we must make sure that this abomination is never ever repeated. Congrats to Aus though they have deserved every bit of the 5-0.

Posted by Meety on (January 4, 2014, 11:08 GMT)

Well England can take consolation in that Stokes appears to be the sort of player you can build a side around. He seems to enjoy the challenges of Test match cricket. Than there is Broad - he has marginally improved his standing on this tour - significantly with the ball - but is batting is such that he can't be called a real allrounder, but has been a standout with the ball. If you were to select a composte team, only Stokes & Broad would be selected for Bailey & MAYBE Siddle respectively. I think for England to get close to winning this match - they need to get a bit lucky in the morning - limit the run chase to sub 400 & KP just goes on a seek & destroy mission. Any other scenario you would think = Oz whitewash completed. England will need to consider if Cook is tactically the man to lead England in the Test arena. I like Cook - I think he is a genuine decent human being & sportsmen - but his captaincy really blows!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 11:03 GMT)

Man all of you are saying india lost to england at home and away and to australia away from home!England's team was a good one and ours was on a decline , but atleast we have fought well overseas from 2002 to 2010 and dominated on our home turf for as long as i can remember!Your's england team just had 2 to 3 years of good cricket showing!Even with a young team's of our we defeated all giant settled ODI teams(Eng & SA) during the champions trophy!I followed both Ind - SA test series and The Ashes Down under ,The notion of English batsmen boasting of having the best technique against Pace Bowling and no problem against Short - pitch stuff from serious pace bowling was shattered!Even our young test batting line-up has better technique and better foot movement than the " Giant Batting" Line-Up of england!We showed it to the world by scoring over 400 runs on a lively Jo'burg pitch of SA!Yours "Famed" batting line-up has not been able to do so even once in this series!Huh!!

Posted by Biggus on (January 4, 2014, 11:03 GMT)

@Aviral Ashok:- Talk is cheap, we'll see how your "world bst batting lineup" does when they get here next year. Until then all that talk is just hot air. The Saffers gave your lot some very tame pitches for the two tests and I think their apparent comfort was a little flattering. And as for your bowling attack well it's laughable I'm afraid, most of them wouldn't get a game in Australian grade cricket, let alone first class or internationals.

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 4, 2014, 11:00 GMT)

I had to feel a bit sorry for Rankin today.He looked a nervous wreck to me. I bet you would have struggled to pull a pin out of his arse with a tractor, if you get my drift.

Left or right hander on strike it made no difference. Short and down the leg side was pretty much all he could manage. I did see him top 140k once or twice but most were pedestrian pace. .. I'm sure he's a much better bowler than what he showed us today, so I won't mind if he has a better day tomorrow. Just not too good a day.

Posted by PACERONE on (January 4, 2014, 10:58 GMT)

Poor Anderson sent out to be beaten up again by Aussie fast bowlers.He played 5 dot ball of an over from I think Watson and a single off the last ball which I think Bell should of refused knowing that the next over was to be bowled by Johnson.So much for team spirit, fortunately Anderson was out in that over and did not suffer any more blows.Night watchman should be done away with like a runner for an injured player.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 10:57 GMT)

india boasts of d world best batting lineup & spin attack wid jadeja ashwin ojha. and indeed!!! it will b grt to see johnson& co. and below par english attack when dey wud b destroying their bowling unit

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 10:51 GMT)

@MaruthuDelft If ignorance is bliss, the world is blissful for you. But you will do a world of good to the readers, if you limit yourself to that world rather than pollute these forums. If you are from U of Delft, please don't tarnish the image of that decent U.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 10:49 GMT)

this series just highlights the difference between the 2 countries in sporting pedigree, this was meant to be the best england team of all time against the worst australian team and you still lost 5-0. just shows how weak your mindset really is, representative of england in all aspects e.g.. in other sports its the same story, time to just accept it and give up in life eh?

Posted by shot274 on (January 4, 2014, 10:48 GMT)

Without detracting anything from Australias performance there seems to be a compete disparity between results obtained by most teams at home compared to results obtained while touring.To an extent that has always been the case but i feel its more so now than ever. I reckon a team has to be 30-40% better than the opposition to beat them at home. England and India are both very good teams at home. Anderson say in Headingley is a totally different prospect from Anderson at Perth. So England should easily beat India at home but if they flew back immeadiately to India they would probably be beaten comfortably. South Africa are currently streets ahead of any other team and thus have a good record even while touring. SA v Australia? Close contest?-dont know. i am still dubious of the Aussie batting line up. Rogers, Smith , Watson, Warner have batted really well in this series but they are not Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting or Husseys.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 10:40 GMT)

@aussie1993 & mambomba dnt frgt this is completely new indian teams wid all guns blazing especially virat pujara rahane and shami jadeja. do it is very likely aus &eng stand any chance of winning against this world bst batting lineup

Posted by PACERONE on (January 4, 2014, 10:39 GMT)

Those calling for the brilliant Bell to be moved higher in the batting order got their wish,In previous articles submitted but not published I mentioned that Bell received too many dot balls he is lucky to also receive bad balls that any batsman can put away.Tight bowling will always get him.

Posted by shanosV8 on (January 4, 2014, 10:38 GMT)

Hello to all the Pommie fans on here ... but you gotta face FACTS old chaps. Stop crying into your warm beers (or Pimms) and listen up please. The Aussies have whipped your lily white butts in this Ashes series good and proper. Just admit it ... Australia have been FAR superior to England this series. Stop trying to blame the pitches / the scheduling / the weather / the balls / the run ups / the nasty crowds / etc. etc. England side came out to Oz with a "superiority" mentality and just thought it would be a pushover to win. Dope # 1 was Botham whose prediction of a whitewash to England proved what a tosser he is. Dope # 2 and this just typifies the whole problem with England is Kevin Pieterson - the issue with KP is that it's all about, well, KP. Lazy, overrated, living on previous reputation. Will never be one of the greats with a test average under 50 and dropping. The Aussies have proven what a ponce this bloke is. KP is exactly England's problem ... FADED GLORY.

Posted by madoldscamp on (January 4, 2014, 10:35 GMT)

I'll be amazed if this isn't Pietersen's last test. He is so far from the batsman he once was. Looks like his body has finally given out, he looks geriatric. It's a measure of how talented he is that he can (just about) still make runs batting on what seems to be one leg. But also, I'd be surprised if he can motivate himself and there are questions around whether he should be selected anyway. He clearly doesn't "fit" well in the dressing room (never has anywhere it seems) and it's "new broom" time for this team. Flower will surely go, too. England will miss him. He's their most talented batsman since Gower; at times he was just sublime. As usual, the establishment and media did their best to knock him down, meaning he's ended up with the record of a good player rather than a great one. But some of his innings were of the highest class. He deserves to make some big IPL money (central contracts and injury have mainly prevented this until now). If it is the end, thanks for the memories.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (January 4, 2014, 10:25 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx on January 4, 2014, 3:47 GMT. Surely you jest! If there's one team England needs to face to bounce back, get batting averages back up and SR down, it's India. Seems that Johnson's performances from the first 2 tests unsettled the has English batting ever since but he's been backed up with excellent support from Siddle and Harris and Lyon has done a more than useful job. England's bowlers on the other hand have got themselves into decent positions and haven't been able to finish the Aussies. Add to that, Trott's departure, Swann who couldn't tie down one end when he wasn't taking wickets and Prior's keeping being affected by his poor batting means England are looking at going down 5-0.

Posted by madoldscamp on (January 4, 2014, 10:19 GMT)

It was obvious a year ago how poor Cook was as a captain (the jokes of Swann and Anderson about collective decision-making and how he makes it up as he goes along were chuckled at when England were winning, but they were telling). It's not surprising he's clueless since he's basically never done it so is having to learn on the job, but his lack of feel in this series has surprised even me. Let's take just one example: why did he put Australia in here? Both these sides are pretty average, and neither plays well from behind. The first 8 tests in these Ashes series were dominated by the team that batted first. The 9th was too until England capitulated from an effective 116-0 on day 3. It wasn't a time to worry about pitch and overhead conditions. England can't chase at the moment, so bat. It's that simple. Just get ahead in the match and make Aus catch up. They probably would, but at least England would be in the game for longer.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 10:18 GMT)

Posted by MarinManiac on (January 4, 2014, 6:01 GMT) " Look on the bright side." You think two players performing decently in an entire squad is looking on the bright side? Puhlease!

Posted by DylanBrah on (January 4, 2014, 10:17 GMT)

Ctrl-F 'India' - 47 Results... come on this is an article about Australia and England... talk about India elsewhere.

Posted by Vishnu27 on (January 4, 2014, 10:16 GMT)

If think we'll agree to disagree on this one, Shaggy076. Broad will be there next time, as will Stokes on current form. However, Anderson is cooked & in decline.

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (January 4, 2014, 10:15 GMT)

It's started to look more like an "Australia vs Ben Stokes" series.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 10:14 GMT)

@attacking : People like you satisfy telling other team is worse so we are great. No one including fans have guts to say we are not performing and we will look at it. Do you think England will be able to defeat any sub continent team with the latest spin attack?

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 4, 2014, 9:57 GMT)

Without wanting to get into the nationality debate, to me you are what you want to be, but be very careful England, you will have to wait and see if Stokes is as good as he looks, being from kiwi heritage we know they grow another leg against us, I will wait and see how he goes against India.

Posted by Buggsy on (January 4, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

@Vishnu27 - newsflash: not all pitches are lifeless batting paradises like the subcontinent where all Tests end in a yawnsome draw for the sake of nothing other than increasing a batters average. In Australia the bowlers actually have control, which is why subcontinent teams are incapable of winning anything down here.

Posted by GibberM on (January 4, 2014, 9:47 GMT)

@well rounded. Everyone knows the aussie top order has been soft for years, but the English attack had been miserable. They haven't fully capitalised on first innings xollapses and have let second innings' go as they will. Aussie total are irrelevant when they declare! Anderson WAS world class, with out a solid keeper, spinner and third seamer England will not compete with the best, nevermind the ageing key batsman

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 9:39 GMT)

Sorry, England but you're going down 5-0.

Also, what's up with the commas in this article? oO

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 9:39 GMT)

Posted by MarinManiac on (January 4, 2014, 6:01 GMT) " Look on the bright side." You think two players performing decently in an entire squad is looking on the bright side? Puhlease!

Posted by Attacking on (January 4, 2014, 9:33 GMT)

This is the same England team that made a mockery of the Indian team home and away. Just shows how pathetic the Indian team truly is.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 4, 2014, 9:28 GMT)

621 runs 24 wickets in two days, it is just like a T20 game, our friends from distant shores must be loving the fast paced action.

Posted by milepost on (January 4, 2014, 9:26 GMT)

@wellrounded87, "Australia have only passed 400 twice" is a testament to England's bowling being great? That's pretty much proof you don't understand cricket. Did you notice we declared in the first 3 tests setting targets of over 500 each time? We didn't need to make 400 lol! Incidentally England haven't passed 400 in about 30 attempts.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 9:25 GMT)


Don't forget to mention that in recent last series Eng have in Aus and even in India against flat track bullies 3 - 1

India lost in Aus Eng and in India by Eng.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 9:21 GMT)

@aussie 93 "the same england side beated india 2-1 in india so indian fans dont be excited I bet 100% india will loose 4-0 or 5-0 in england nd then aussies will trash u 4-0 when u tour australia at the end of 2014"

That was an old failing team lacking fight. The new team at least fights. You seem to conveniently forgotten the difference of personnel. I think India will definitely loose against Australia though by not that margin. But if the same England turns up as the one playing against Ausralia, England can be further surprised.

Posted by AidanFX on (January 4, 2014, 9:21 GMT)

@slash29 - well he (Hughes) bullies first class cricketers better than pretty much everyone else in the country (over both the longer formats of the game) which indicates he is one of the best batsmen going around the country - he problem is the way everyone has messed him around.

Posted by Henry_Crun on (January 4, 2014, 9:19 GMT)

@slash29 = Hughes is the youngest batsman to score a ton in each innings, which he did in his second Test (against South Africa). He the failed in the first two Tests of the following Ashes series in England and was promptly dropped; perhaps he should change his name to George Bailey. Since then he has been back in the Test team twice, has done well early, then got dropped after a couple of failures. The fact that he's still around and scoring runs after the treatment he's had from CA says a lot about his character.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 4, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

Carol Martin; Of those 14 series was a draw to an Australian side lesser to the current one, and South Africa were better then as well. Vishnu; I think the English attack is really good, if Anderson had Mcdermott like coaching on how far to the pitch the ball up he and Broad will be be a very good attack. As long as they dont pick Rankin again he has been a little short of ordinary. More leg side delivers than the infamous Tufnell spell to Mark Waugh. Slash29; All domestic players have a chance to bully the same attacks, how come Hughes does it more effectively than Silk? Surely that makes him a better player than Silk. He has had 3 chances and his last one was ended abruptly. I recall Hayden and Langer having 4 cracks they were pretty handy players.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 4, 2014, 9:14 GMT)

@Assue1993: You are crazy. That Engand team didn't have Ballance, Root (for the most part), Carberry, Borthwick, Rankin, Bairstow. Also, Cook and Pietersen were in form. Now they aren't, it's a TOTALLY different team.

I reckon the Indians will put up a real big find in England this year. Their young players aren't pushovers anymore. Pujara/Kohli/Rahane are guns.

Posted by jonesy2 on (January 4, 2014, 9:14 GMT)

you know whats worse for England? they don't even have replacement players, no up and coming bowlers or batsmen of any quality.

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (January 4, 2014, 9:12 GMT)

@tanmaymore87, but England, Australia, SA and Pak to some extent are proper test teams so even if they lose they at least win a few sessions and lose respectably. India have never been a proper test team. Recently it could not defend 457 on the last day and a session but worse than that was the fact how SA was so sure about beating India even after India just lost Shikar Dhawan for over 150 runs on the first day of the second test. Indian fans have to wait until India truly becomes a proper test team before comparing India to Eng, Aus, SA and PA to some extent.

Posted by Vishnu27 on (January 4, 2014, 9:04 GMT)

@wellrounded87: they have not bowled to a plan (or managed to stick at it very long), have bowled far too short all series, have beedn able to not maintain any pressure & been counterattacked against every test & your so-called world class spinner has had his career ended by Australia. Is that a good attack? I don't think so. Look at the stats: strike rates & economy rates are ordinary to say the least. Anderson is a trundler without a Dukes ball in hand & overhead conditions to suit him. What he is not, is "world class". The man averages almost 31!! He is a better than average medium pacer. Broad fought it out the first three tests, but now seems resigned. Stokes has shown something. The rest: Tremlett, Bresnan & Rankin. Please, spare me. Tremlett did a job first test. Bresnan: what can you say, other than: why?. Rankin: that first innings effort was an absurd joke. This is not a good attack in Australia. They have been exposed.

Posted by slash29 on (January 4, 2014, 8:53 GMT)

@wellrounded87 You have to be kidding if you think Phil Hughes deserves his 49th chance at the big show! He has shown time after time that he can bully domestic attacks but does not have the technique for international cricket. If the selectors are really serious about moving forward then Jordan Silk, a classic Test type cricketer, bats at 3 and Watson moves to 6. And as for Anderson, 130km/h without his beloved Duke ball....pedestrian

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 8:48 GMT)

What goes around comes around..everyone was criticsing Ind team when they were whitewashed in Eng and look at the state of Eng team....

Posted by AidanFX on (January 4, 2014, 8:38 GMT)

Who teaches the England camp the stalling tactics? Does it come from Flower? They do it both with ball and bat. A guy has a damaged helmet - and they bring out two helmets which seemed too small - yeah right? Then Broad has a hissy fit about some turf which was a little uncomfortable for his $600 shoes. And he refuses to bowl holding play up for a long time.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 8:28 GMT)

So what happened to 10-0, sir Botham?

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 4, 2014, 8:25 GMT)

@Vishnu27 What exactly makes you think the English attack isn't good? Australia have only passed 400 twice in this series, one on a batting friendly adelaide pitch and the other after their batsmen had been knocked over quickly at the gabba not giving the bowlers a chance to rest. Broad has had a stellar series despite the results, Anderson is world class and stokes is a real find. the fourth seamer is a bit touchy, hard to judge Rankin he hasn't played any cricket for 6 weeks. Nothing wrong with their pace attack at all, it's their batsmen that are failing miserably. This is coming from an Aussie.

On a side note i really hope the selectors wise up and drop Bailey. Anderson has made him look silly several times, he will be completely exposed against Steyn, Philander and Morkel. Hughes should come in and move Clarke and Smith down the order. Clarke's average at 5 is well over 60 yet his average at 4 is well under 30 it boggles the mind to keep him there

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 4, 2014, 8:20 GMT)

Its only matter of -couple of sess.? - time before Aus decl. by around tea and lead well past 500. We all know 5-0 is but f/gone concl. the only interest to see can Eng beat their 1st inng score. 1st up waiting for Rogers ton.Crunch time/inng for Baily.

Posted by Vishnu27 on (January 4, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

@Barry Glynn: Australia has not been beaten in a series in SA since SA's reintroduction to cricket post-apartheid. English pundits & fans alike all wrote Australia off before this Ashes series, with your report cards already marked. Let's just wait & see, shall we?

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

Hope India's decent away form against South Africa shapes up for the England tour. Could be further red faces for @Barry et al the way things are tracking. Probably be someone else fault though...

Posted by wallos34 on (January 4, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

England's performance has been underwhelming all series, but Clarke has now not had a big innings for a while and Australia's batting is still brittle with concerns going to Sth Africa. If Bailey gets a 50 he may save a spot in the squad. BTW Stokes debuted in Adelaide, not Perth.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

who cares about past series or next series this series will be 5-0

Posted by StrangeWays on (January 4, 2014, 8:14 GMT)

Wow! what a joke.. i could understand England being pathetic for a game or two... but to be THRASHED 5 games in a row is a appalling.. Granted Johnson is on fire.. but NONE of the English top order have applied themselves.. 9 tries and all have failed miserably.. Im sure that Flower will be plucked.. but it is not him out there on the field.. Cook clearly has no ability to rally his troops.. fall on your sword Cook and focus on your batting which is what you truly bring to the game.. as a captain you are just an average going down!

Posted by tanmaymore87 on (January 4, 2014, 8:12 GMT)

So after India lost 0-8 & Australia lost 0-7 away, its England's turn to lose 0-5....

Posted by ramli on (January 4, 2014, 8:10 GMT)

Well ... Eng can still finish off Aus before lunh on 3rd day tomorrow and cruise to a win ... why not? But, Eng can definitely hope for better days ahead as India is touring them this year ... but the new look Indian team will offer a stiff competition unlike its older version

Posted by Protears on (January 4, 2014, 8:09 GMT)

Looking forward to the Australians touring in February should be an interesting series as always. Lots of talking points for that series.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 8:09 GMT)

The most disappointing aspect of the day's play has been the time wasting by England. Twice during the dayplay was held up for about 10 minutes a time cutting out about four overs of play. All teams do it to a certain extent but England goes well beyond the pale.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 8:01 GMT)

Rajesh.Kumar, you are forgetting that SA have not lost a series in the past 14, including many away from home.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 7:58 GMT)

england should easily win against india in the summer

Posted by milepost on (January 4, 2014, 7:54 GMT)

Those saying Australia will get hammered by SA are the same ones that were saying we'd get hammered by England this series. It's wishful thinking but if you knew anything about cricket you'd look at the form of both teams and realise SA might be in for a hiding. England whitewashed twice in 5 series, now that is a hammering. All you can (and should) do is give credit to Australia for being awesome and comprehensively dispatching England with ease. I mean the stats and records are quite something to behold. Broad has held his head up and Stokes has started well but who else is worthy of a mention? Let's hope they find some players up for the Aussie Goliath in 2015 so we get a contest at least.

Posted by aussie1993 on (January 4, 2014, 7:48 GMT)

the same england side beated india 2-1 in india so indian fans dont be excited I bet 100% india will loose 4-0 or 5-0 in england nd then aussies will trash u 4-0 when u tour australia at the end of 2014

Posted by AB34 on (January 4, 2014, 7:47 GMT)

@MarinManiac, 5-0 white wash twice (if we win this test match) in less than 10 years apart is worst (given there was only one 5-0 white wash in Ashes series in the 100+ years of ashes history, also done by Australia )

Posted by aussie1993 on (January 4, 2014, 7:45 GMT)

as far sa vs australia is concerned sa have never won series against australia in sa from 1993

Posted by Vishnu27 on (January 4, 2014, 7:30 GMT)

@Sir_Ivor: England have a "terrific pace attack with a good bench as well"???Really? I am not so sure about that at all. Their pace attack is pretty ordinary from what we have seen over the past five tests.

Posted by sureshba on (January 4, 2014, 7:27 GMT)

Ind vs Eng contest in the month of july-sept will be interesting one,seeing the fact that England's FORM is on a lower side

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 7:23 GMT)

If, Australia's old men can stay fit for another series, they might only lose to South Africa by one or two Tests but that's a big ask. England? We would struggle to beat Bagladesh currently.

Posted by Johnny_129 on (January 4, 2014, 7:21 GMT)

5-0! England, Oh England!! My, how the mighty have fallen!! I remember well how England crowed after displacing India as #1 in Tests - They said India's stay at the top was short lived - England's was even shorter LOL.

Posted by lillee4PM on (January 4, 2014, 7:16 GMT)

"Posted by MarinManiac on (January 4, 2014, 6:01 GMT) ....This is NOT the end of the world, England!" That's right, it's not the end of the world but it is the end of England. Good luck trying to find some positives out of a 5-0 thrashing!!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 7:15 GMT)

I don't think that series against south africa should be very tough for australia. As they have tremendous record against south africa in south africa.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 7:14 GMT)

Let this be a lesson to all those who criticised England as being five-out-all-out. Broad alone outscored the entire top 5!

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 7:12 GMT)

@Aaryavanshii Yajnavalkya Sinha tells lot about your cricketing acumen when you say Spinners will rip out England at Edgbaston.India have lost all tests bar one played at birmingham,2 by an innings and last time indian leggie played there got one for 150 and England got 700.Fact is this Australian attack is way better than India on fast bowling conditions India would be lucky to escape with a draw if it comes to that in England

Posted by Assertive-Indian on (January 4, 2014, 7:11 GMT)

One is tempted to ask the English players that when you can't bat, you can't bowl, and you can't field, then why do you want to play cricket?

Posted by Rajesh.Kumar on (January 4, 2014, 7:09 GMT)

After this kind of performane, England fans may think that this is end of the world, or end of English cricket. Following thoughts may cheer them up, however. India got a 8-0 hiding in tests while playing abroad. Australia recently got a 7-0 hiding while playing abroad. So, key to winning seems to be basically playing at home. So wait for a home series, and I am sure England will be back to their winning ways. But, in order to do that, they will have to let go of a lot of old timers, possibly including Pietersen.

Posted by CrikiLeaks on (January 4, 2014, 6:22 GMT)

Smith comes out. England create ridiculous delay.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 4, 2014, 6:15 GMT)

Bring on cannon fodder Borthwick!

Posted by Rufus_Fuddleduck on (January 4, 2014, 6:05 GMT)

England did well to get to 155, mainly the gumption of new boys and honestly Broad never stops trying. Just a reflection that Carberry's mundane 25 may have come in handy, at the time when England were sliding to 23-5. So much for the baiters, and if England thinks Indian bowlers will be generous, it makes sense to blood new talent to give them a good start.

Posted by MarinManiac on (January 4, 2014, 6:01 GMT)

Look on the bright side. The last 5 wickets added 132. That's the best return of the whole series. Second, there is no way that Australia will win this series with an innings defeat (three years ago it was a triple innings pasting favoring England, which is more embarrassing, huh?) Third, Stokes is quietly having a very good match (and debut series). Fourth, Broad can hold his head reasonably high as well. This is NOT the end of the world, England!

Posted by milepost on (January 4, 2014, 5:58 GMT)

Wow I'm regretting not putting a tenner on the whitewash which was 50-1. Even though I had a gut feeling about it and was confident when assessing the form of both sides we'd win, I never really believed that it would be 5-0 to Australia. @FFL was sort of right as was Botham, they just got the team wrong. England were already well out of this match inside 4 sessions, I am thinking with some confidence that Flower will lose his job and think they might sack Cook too as he isn't making runs and his captaincy can't seem to adapt as it needs to. The new director has his hands full that's for sure.

Posted by iamsuperman on (January 4, 2014, 5:56 GMT)

Dear Australia pls declare.. please dont traumatise England any more. Please give England fans some comfort of saying "oh we lost only by 50 runs, we gave Australia run for their money!!". White wash, thats inevitable. Last 3-0 victory by England was a very close one. Some saved by weather gods. This to be 5-0 is really one sided, no way England showed they know to bat. Cook shivers in front of Australian seamers. Broad never an all rounder. Anderson England's self proclaimed worlds best bowler.. torn apart. WELL PLAYED AUSTRALIA but South Africa is a better side.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 5:52 GMT)

its good that the pommies are brought down to mother earth...

Posted by Garp on (January 4, 2014, 5:46 GMT)

All the England test only players should be made to stay for the ODI series because it seems there already playing to catch the next plane home.

Posted by cccrider on (January 4, 2014, 5:41 GMT)

What is the fine tomorrow at the SCG if you don't wear pink as is required?

Posted by Cubacat on (January 4, 2014, 5:22 GMT)

I remember it was the Australian press laying into the Australians only a short while ago, now they are the bell of the ball. Fans had ridden the Australian cricket team off but these were the fair weather fans. Most people who know cricket know that Australia were not far from success and also knew that England were close to failure. Remember cricket is all about cycles and success and failure will come and go. As failures go though, this one is fairly ugly, still things should improve for England over time. Australia now should have the momentum needed for a tough series against South Africa, the true measuring stick.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 5:20 GMT)

@mamboman ohhh!!! jeez!!! u say that team India r "Incapable" of showing "Cohesion" & "Discipline"?????? okkayyy gr8, it would b 4 every1 2 c what happens come the Pataudi Trophy June---September 2014!!!! if India manage 2 take the tests especially the ones at Edgbaston & The Kia Oval to the 5th day; Sir Jadeja & Pragyan Ojha & Amit Mishra & Piyush Chawla etc. would tear England into pieces

Posted by Purist_fan on (January 4, 2014, 5:15 GMT)

Washup: - Australia will win 5 - 0 a true reflection of the series.

They are yet as good as SA. The top order batting is still too brittle.

e.g; Though Warner has done well with over 500 runs not enough of them were scored in 1st Innings.

I sincerely hope they don't select Johnson & Patterson in the same test sides at this time. They will bleed runs. A large part of Johnson's resurgence is that runs haven't been bleeding at the other end (letting the pressure off).

Bailey needs 2-3 more Tests to prove himself before dropping him (S.Waugh had longer). Clarke/Hadden/Smith should be only selected for tests. Lyon too now he has finally dropping his pace a few kms).

Two Best things Leeman has done as coach:

1/ Returned the emphasis to stopping singles rather than boundaries in the field. Never set fields for poor bowling. 2/ tossed out the ridiculous rotation system which flirted with player form & arguably caused more injuries than it prevented.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 5:05 GMT)

This series shows that mind if the foremost and the physical body. In terms of somatic size the two side are equal, and prior to the series all though even in skills too they are equal, and if not may be English a trifle better. But what has surfaced in the series is the poor mind situation of English. And for me that means the coach has dismally failed. They have the skills but the mind power. No coach can do that but someone who can understand the 17 mind moments the vicissitudes of the moment to moment. All states have mind as their fore-runner; to them m ind is supreme and of mind are they made...........

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 4:54 GMT)

In the series in England, the Australian bowlers were alright, but were still learning to function as a unit. The Australian batting, on the other hand, was ordinary. England took advantage of that to get a 3-0 series win, but no genuine fan of the sport thought that scoreline was an accurate reflection.

In contrast in Australia, the Australian batsmen have shown a lot more fight and determination, giving their bowlers some genuine support. The bowlers have also performed better. Add to this the poor form of Bell and Trott (and Pietersen to a lesser extent) and the tables are turned.

Us Aussies need to remember though that this is NOT a good demonstration of where we are at the moment. We'll get that after the South African series.

Posted by mamboman on (January 4, 2014, 4:44 GMT)

I think the India fans here are highly over rating their teams chances in the upcoming series - at its core this is a very good English side which is being beaten by a team showing the cohesion and discipline India are incapable of. It will be much closer than our Indian friends here imagine.

Posted by rajuramki on (January 4, 2014, 4:40 GMT)

The humiliation faced by England in the Ashes will linger in their memories for so long that they will not be able to maintain their equilibrium in the next couple of series . I am convinced that the England team thought that they were supermen and that Australia will be a push over ,when they landed here . Now England has really been grounded . There is hardly any positive for England except the grit shown by new comer Stoken and flashes of resistance shown by Broad .

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 4, 2014, 4:35 GMT)

Out: KP, Anderson

In: players who try

Posted by disco_bob on (January 4, 2014, 4:32 GMT)

Fitting way to finish this series, Australia can pretty well do whatever they like. They can declare with 10 overs to go tonight and bowl England out by tea tomorrow, Or they can grind England into the dust and set 601 to win with 5 sessions to bowl them out, but aim to finish by lunch on the 5th day. Or anything in between. I'll go for setting England 601

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 4:29 GMT)

don't you worry England...coz you'll be playing soon against India and the likes of ishant n zaheer will bring you back to form. Indian selectors plz don't drop these two. btw...this ashes series is so boring and one sided.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 4:27 GMT)

England is well capable of rebuilding again ,cricket is an amazing game.

Posted by Sir_Ivor on (January 4, 2014, 4:26 GMT)

England may lose 0-5 but they have the makings of a very good side at least when they play in home conditions. They have a terrific pace attack with a good bench as well and in Ballance and Stokes they may have unearthed some greats of the future. In their dark period,probably their worst for the last few years when they have been good in all formats, I would like them to keep their spirit up. Every team has its highs after which it is the lows which is a bit difficult to take. But then good times do return !!

Posted by AB34 on (January 4, 2014, 3:53 GMT)

@Edward Spacer, easy, it their excuse, they really thought that 3-0 win in England was a "thrashing" as the some of the commentator and media made it out to be, here a stats for you, in the 10 Tests in England and Australia, England only lead in the first innings in 2 Tests.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 4, 2014, 3:47 GMT)

If it was Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Prior, Swann, Anderson at their peak as they were in 2010/11, i would say England will definitley be back. However, now i do not see them being competitive for a long while yet.

Cook has fallen from grace and come back to earth. Bell, Pietersen are seasonal performers, good when they are high but easy pickings when out of nick. Then after that, it's all unknown. Ballance, Carberry, Borthwick, Stokes, and Anderson out of form, it's curtains foe England.

I will be interested to see how India go in England. I think they are a good chance to win, they have good batsman and their bowling is decent, especially against this English lineup.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 3:15 GMT)

@ Jeeves how can you blame the scheduling and then say AUS were up for it and eng were not, if AUS were up for it it wasn't a scheduling problem it was an ENG problem

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 3:03 GMT)

Many excuses can be used for England not turning up to the Ashes but the truth of the matter is they have been completely outplayed and outclassed by Australia. The media had hyped up England so much so that it had the cricketing world believing that they are better then they really are. Johnson and Haddin have blown England away from beginning to end and single handily forced Swann into retirement. England's problems have only just begun, and if anything they seem like the England of old in Nassers Era. The Aussies have been phenomenal in this series and wanted it more.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 2:42 GMT)

C'mon England show some guts. Can England be the same team ever again !! or will this have a long lasting effect !!!

Posted by Jeeves_ on (January 4, 2014, 2:41 GMT)

Very sad. I blame the scheduling. Clearly england was not up to it. Australia was! And they had a point to prove! England just went meekly to the slaughter....

Posted by AB34 on (January 4, 2014, 2:26 GMT)

Can't believe the score line, it was such a close series in England even though they won the series 3-0, but you guys were playing against a 10 man team for 5 Test, Bailey is worst than Prior (at least he is a wicket keeper)

Posted by   on (January 4, 2014, 2:14 GMT)

England will lose 0-5 ...... Not only against the Aussies but will also against India in the upcoming summer..... England have really to think about coz their batting and bowling isn't very good now ....

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