Australia v England, 3rd ODI, Sydney

Australia seek another series win

The Preview by Brydon Coverdale

January 18, 2014

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Ehantharajah: It could be all over for England

Match Facts

January 19, 2014, Sydney
Start time 2.20pm (0320GMT)

The Big Picture

What more can England do? Well, perhaps not bowl half-volleys in the dying stages of a run chase, but apart from that they played as well in the Brisbane ODI as they have on this whole tour of Australia. Still, they lost. They were effectively 'Faulknered'. It will be difficult for England not to slump after getting their hopes up only to have them dashed, but they should take confidence from the Gabba match. They scored 300, Eoin Morgan became their first century-maker since Ben Stokes in the Perth Test, Ian Bell looked in good touch until he was run out, their fielding was good - a lot went right for England. They can enter the third match in Sydney with belief, if they can convince themselves to do so. They must avoid telling themselves that the Gabba heist proves Australia are unbeatable.


James Faulkner hit Tim Bresnan for three consecutive fours to win the game, Australia v England, 2nd ODI, Gabba, January 17, 2014
England were 'Faulknered' in Brisbane, now they must win in Sydney to keep the series alive © Getty Images
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For Australia, this is a chance to secure the five-match series after three games. It would be the first time in five campaigns that a team followed an Ashes win with an accompanying victory in the one-dayers. The road to No.1 in the world would become that little bit shorter. Their challenge is to avoid complacency. Faulkner got them out of jail - Michael Clarke's disbelieving smile after the match showed that he knew it. The rest of the players must not take the win for granted. England can beat them. Much of Australia's pace bowling was off the mark in Brisbane; they need to find their line once again. And if they can extend England's pain one more match, they will celebrate another series win in Sydney.

Form guide

(Completed matches, most recent first)

Australia WWLLW
England LLLWL

Watch out for

James Faulkner was the story in Friday's game, but it was Glenn Maxwell who kept Australia in the hunt during the middle overs. Maxwell's improvised reverse-sweeping, pulling and glancing made it almost impossible for Alastair Cook to stem the run flow until he tried to do too much and was caught pulling to midwicket. Maxwell's hitting will not always come off but he is a dangerous man in Australia's middle order.

Jos Buttler has been overshadowed by team-mates in the first two ODIs but his contributions of 34 not out from 21 balls and 49 off 36 have highlighted how valuable his striking can be down the order. England's top scorer in the win over the Prime Minister's XI with 61, Buttler could just be building up to an innings of significance in this series, especially if he gets the chance to come in earlier in the innings at some point.

Team news

Shane Watson remains in resting mode, which may mean no changes are made to the batting group for this match, unless George Bailey's groin niggle rules him out. Steve Smith has also been called up to the squad as additional cover. The move to Sydney could bring a recall for the spinner Xavier Doherty, perhaps at the expense of Nathan Coulter-Nile, although the selectors may also be interested in seeing James Pattinson return.

Australia (possible) 1 David Warner, 2 Aaron Finch, 3 Shaun Marsh, 4 Michael Clarke (capt), 5 George Bailey / Steve Smith, 6 Glenn Maxwell, 7 Brad Haddin (wk), 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson, 10 Clint McKay, 11 Xavier Doherty / James Pattinson.

Joe Root is the primary worry in England's batting order but he bowled well in Brisbane and picked up two wickets in the absence of a specialist spinner. His place may be determined by whether England want to bring James Tredwell in at the expense of one of the fast bowlers. If so, they could also consider a Root-Michael Carberry switch at No.3. Stuart Broad is available again after being rested.

England (possible) 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Michael Carberry / Joe Root, 4 Gary Ballance, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Ravi Bopara, 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 Ben Stokes, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 Chris Jordan, 11 Tim Bresnan / James Tredwell.

Pitch and conditions

The two ODIs in Sydney last summer provided first-innings totals around the 220 mark. In both of those games spin took a back seat to pace. The forecast for Sunday is partly cloudy and 27C.

Stats and trivia

  • James Faulkner has played only 14 ODI innings but already has three fifties and one century and averages 53 with the bat

  • Since his 87 in the second innings of the Adelaide Test, Joe Root has (in all formats, including tour games) scored 4, 19, 24, 15, 3, 1 and 2

  • Tim Bresnan needs three wickets to reach 100 in one-day internationals

Quotes

"We obviously had a tough time in England. We know the pain they are feeling at the moment. We don't feel sorry for them at all."
James Faulkner hopes Australia can keep on top of England

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Posted by   on (January 19, 2014, 5:08 GMT)

This Eng selection policy is like amateur cricket in the park, Firstly 4 lefties in the first 5, then no 3 & 4 filled with two inexperienced lefties who have struggled to rotate the strike and keep the score board ticking. Dropping Root was inevitable but to fill up the top with inexperience was a crazy decision. They should have swapped Bopara with Stokes in the line up. Bopara is a experienced enough to play at no 3. They are not using him wisely and he might end up a basket case like Finn and Root. Although my ideal team would have Hales or Wright at the top with Cook, Bell 3, and no Gary Balance.

Posted by   on (January 19, 2014, 3:18 GMT)

i think england's no.3 will be BEN STOKES.MISSING SMITH

Posted by   on (January 19, 2014, 2:40 GMT)

Bradman forever has a simplistic and illogical idea that because we won this series it must be due to a weak sports attitude because we have a lower population.

Does this mean our rugby players unlike our cricketers have a weak attitude because we are constantly drubbed by those ann0ying low population kiwis

Have you ever stopped to consider why England outshines us in most winter sports

It is a complex equation of many factors but our fantastic climate ( for cricket) and first class faciities aided by the abundant space will have a part in it. The British bulldog is still there and I am sure, that like us, they will regroup and and put us on the canvas again in some future Ashes series

Posted by LooksPlumbFromHere on (January 19, 2014, 2:27 GMT)

@ Matt.au on (January 18, 2014, 16:18 GMT) I agree the 3-0 Ashes defeat in England wasn't the big picture, as you put it. Amid the series loss the Aussies made a lot of progress in finding its best team. By the end of the series the momentum had changed and the Aussies were playing pretty well, even though they didn't win a test.

It's a very different story for Eng going down 5-0 in Aus. Each loss was by a significant margin. The team has been decimated and I don't think anyone really knows what the best team is. There could be instability for a while yet.

But things can change quickly - Johnson was not a certain starter in the 1st Test in Brisbane until injuries ruled out Starc, Pattinson, etc, but he played and the rest is history. The Aussies still have issues, especially consistency in their batting, but they have found team spirit, a precious but elusive commodity. England could really do with some of that at the moment, but it's hard to find when you keep losing.

Posted by wapuser on (January 19, 2014, 2:27 GMT)

Kevin Pieterson the best batsman in the world?? Wouldnt even be the best in an ordinary england side.....!

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 19, 2014, 0:24 GMT)

@Bradman best- A massacre in 3 rem. ODIs-and the t20s- will be a nice little climax to this wonderful summer. A hatrick of W/W. Doesn't get better!

Posted by   on (January 19, 2014, 0:21 GMT)

I disagree that England as a team played well. Morgan was superb, Butler was very good in support, and Bell helped consolidate. Both teams lost wickets regularly, but Australia stayed ahead of the England run rate for the same period for virtually the entire match. So balance up the batsmen England had 5 batsmen with scores above 20, as did Australia. Root an balance scored 11 between them, Clarke & Finch 17; Not a lot in the bowling, although Bopara was the most economical and England could bowl him more. So it comes down to strike rate, where most of the Australians were ahead of their counterpart, hence the win with 3 runs to spare. I think England need someone dynamic at the wicket at all times, and Australia will do better with Cook, Bell and Root in and accumulating slowly!

Posted by Hamfisted on (January 19, 2014, 0:00 GMT)

Root just has to go and prove he deserves selection.

My team: 1, Cook 2. Carberry 3. Bell 4. Morgan.5. Ballance 6. Butler 7.Bopara. 8. Stokes 9.Broad 10. Jordan 11. Tredwell

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 18, 2014, 23:37 GMT)

I'm an Aussie and a huge fan of Australia cricket. I thoroughly disagree with this notion that England are mentally weak. Their confidence might be a bit shot at the moment, but this is the same team that went to India got absolutely demolished in the first test then came back tow in the series. This is the same team that Faff'ed NZ in NZ.

The reason for Australia's dominance in the ashes was primarily the annointment of Boof Lehman. He got the best out of each and every player and he got them to stick to their plans. Arthur couldn't do this, he was a decent tactician but not a leader, not an inspirer. The Australian team pushed England in England a lot more than the 3-0 scoreline suggests and in home conditions they were always going to do better. (Despite Australia's poor form over the last 5-6 years still very hard to beat at home). England were complacent and paid for it. Their were obvious holes from the previous series that they did nothing to address. Plus the Johnson factor

Posted by inyourbaffles on (January 18, 2014, 23:30 GMT)

@BradmanBestEver: As a mathematician I'm intrigued that you have attempted to define a hypothesis that draws a linear relationship between the population size of a country and its sporting prowess. Don't give up the day-job. Let's face it, England were less good at playing the Australian form of the game in Australia. In 2009 the Barmy Army made it clear at Edgbaston that there was "Only One Mitchell Johnston." In Australia in 2013/14 he proved that to be the case. Enjoy it while it lasts; we did!

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 18, 2014, 23:24 GMT)

@Amarpartap S Chahal in what world is KP the best batsmen in the world? Certainly not this one. He's not even top 10 for test batsmen. In no format of the game is he ranked number 1 or even close

Posted by RJHB on (January 18, 2014, 22:35 GMT)

Terrible run by Root, and how many of those low scoring innings have ended in a review after being given out, and how many has he won? Hmmmm, I don't think this guy ever thinks he's out! Poor sportsmanship. I'm starting to see Warner's point!

Posted by EnglishSaint on (January 18, 2014, 22:14 GMT)

English cricket must simply decide if they are to take ODI cricket seriously or not. Cannot remember the last time that England played what is to be considered the best XI. Players to often 'rested' or overlooked or bits and pieces players included. If the former then the team must be Cook Bell KP Morgan Root Bopara Stokes Buttler Broad Jordan Anderson.

Squad members Ballance Vince Woakes Finn Briggs and Treadwell.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 18, 2014, 22:06 GMT)

@R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (January 18, 2014, 12:01 GMT) I think that the platform thing is ok in alot of home games but not so much in places like India and Oz. It's a problem of rigidness/lack of flexibility that it seems they can only construct/follow one plan. Also when we were having success we were using 5 specialist bowlers. Another problem is that we let other team's part time bowlers settle too much. When you consider that the last 10 overs in the last game - bowled by specialist bowlers like MJ,NCN etc - went for 100 it surely says something about our timid mindset that Maxwell and Clarke went for 4 an over in 12 combined overs. Also you look at teams like India (Dharwin,Kholi,Sharma, Raina and Dhoni) and Oz (Finch,Warner,Watson (when playing), Maxwell and Bailey and these players are all more than capable of scoring at a SR of over 100 and are therefore not over reliant on 2 players (as we are at the moment) to up the tempo in an inns.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 18, 2014, 21:53 GMT)

@CodandChips on (January 18, 2014, 14:06 GMT) Personally I'd definitely ditch the Giles formula but if we go with the Giles formula we must score faster. If it was up to me I'd have as few test players (if any) as possible. As already mentioned I feel that if Eng are on form in tests then they will ease off when playing ODIs and when out of form the rot sets into the ODIs. Re the batting line up I'd like to see one (maybe 2 or 3) more power hitters - guys like Lumb,Hales and Wright. Even think about someone like Trego who can bowl some tidy overs too. My main thing is flexibility. I'd have Buttler in ahead of Ravi in the order. I just like the idea of a power hitter in at all times but feel it's criminal not to have our most dangerous batsmen playing more overs. Buttler opening is a little too leftfield but I'd even rather go that way than continue as it is

Posted by JG2704 on (January 18, 2014, 21:52 GMT)

@CodandChips on (January 18, 2014, 14:06 GMT) Personally I'd definitely ditch the Giles formula but if we go with the Giles formula we must score faster. If it was up to me I'd have as few test players (if any) as possible. As already mentioned I feel that if Eng are on form in tests then they will ease off when playing ODIs and when out of form the rot sets into the ODIs. Re the batting line up I'd like to see one (maybe 2 or 3) more power hitters - guys like Lumb,Hales and Wright. Even think about someone like Trego who can bowl some tidy overs too. My main thing is flexibility. I'd have Buttler in ahead of Ravi in the order. I just like the idea of a power hitter in at all times but feel it's criminal not to have our most dangerous batsmen playing more overs. Buttler opening is a little too leftfield but I'd even rather go that way than continue as it is

Posted by MarinManiac on (January 18, 2014, 21:42 GMT)

England simply doesn't know how to get the tail out. In the last couple of years -- look at all the significant 10th wicket partnerships. # 11's getting within a hit of a century. Tino Best. Ashton Agar. Now we have Faulkner/McKay putting on 57 to win. Remember Bevan/Bichel in the World Cup a few years ago? It's the same story. A lack of ability to crush the last breath out of a fighting opponent. Look at the captaincy.... maybe this is why England has only ever won one trophy in one day cricket (T20) -- Paul Collingwood was the captain. There was a bulldog who never gave up.... England needs someone like him to lead.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 18, 2014, 19:36 GMT)

Agree with @JoshFromJamRock. Any team compiling 300 runs at the Gabba in a ODI is not hopeless. And it took a special innings from Faulkner to ruin the celebrations, which had seen the game fluctuate a few times during the course of the match. I don't really care for ODI's too much, but this one delivered a little of everything, entertainment wise. I owuldn't despair either way the results of this series, the next series will be here just as quick.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 16:54 GMT)

England needs KP...England is just an ordinary team without the best batsman in the world.

Posted by Matt.au on (January 18, 2014, 16:18 GMT)

Posted by BradmanBestEver - England's problems observed in the recent Ashes flogging are due to a weaker sport attitude than the Australians.

If that's true, why did England win the 3 previous Ashes series?

The Australians were just as mentally battered by many recent lost test series as the English are now. At some point you have to pick yourself up from the canvas and say "Enough is enough" Like the Australians did in England last Ashes series.

Ok, They lost the series 3-0. That wasn't the big picture.

The big picture was they decided to change what they were doing on and off the field and were prepared to try things and see what did and didn't work. If they lost a few games or even the series, so be it.

What didn't work in the series in England was thrown out for the series here.

The Australians new if they simply stuck to what did work and executed it properly for long periods of time they would be more than competitive.

Sure, an aggressive mind set was used too.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 18, 2014, 14:59 GMT)

England's problems observed in the recent Ashes flogging are due to a weaker sport attitude than the Australians.

It stands to reason that England's problems have much less to do with talent and more to do with something else because England has more than twice the population of Australia - so, other things equal they should produce more talented players than Australia.

Put Root in the Australian team and he would play differently because he would have a different mindset. The never-say-die attitude is a hard wired attribute of many successful Australian sports people and for players not blessed with that attitude built in they adopt it from the team if they are successful.

The English selectors must seek out those characters with talent that ALSO have that Aussie attitude. It will be hard work for them because they are not as common in England as they are in Australia. Will they put in the effort?

Posted by Matt.au on (January 18, 2014, 14:52 GMT)

Posted by Nick Ellis Such bravado by the long suffering Oz fans. . You are not as good as you think you are and England are not as bad as they think they are.

Nick, your words are the epitome of bravado.

You remind me of the scene in the movie: Monty Pythons Holy Grail where King Arthur fights the Black Knight.

Despite the Black Knight having his arms and legs removed by the sword he insists his wounds are "Just a scratch" and "flesh wounds"

That too, is the epitome of bravado. If only the Black Knight had tailenders.....

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 14:19 GMT)

Best batting order for England even though I want them to lose but lose with dignity would be as follows.

Cook Carberry Bell Ballance Morgan Bopara Buttler Stokes/Bresnan Root Broad Jordan

This is a great side on a slowish Sydney wicket with Bopara and Root proving good medium pace and spin options to support Stokes/Bresnan, Broad and Jordan.

Posted by barryrichardsfan on (January 18, 2014, 14:18 GMT)

ravi bopara reminds of rohit sharma in his play as well as underperformance despite inherent talent. push him to opening with carberry. that could do a dhawan-sharma.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 14:10 GMT)

The problems with the recent performances lie in the top order and somewhat in the bowling dept. Surely Cook and Root need a rest (they seem shot and their confidence should be protected). Why not open with Bell and Carberry, Morgan, Ballance, Bopara, Stokes, Bresnan, Broad, Jordan, Tredwell. Team to be captained by either Broad or Bell. This achieves a good combination of run accumulators and attacking run getters at the right moments of the play and some variation in the bowling attack that is necessary.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 18, 2014, 14:06 GMT)

Nobody has really mentioned it (to my knowledge), but I think Ben Stokes could be under a bit of pressure. His career ODI stats are pretty poor, with bat and ball

@JG I like the look of your template for the team, and you appear to speak a lot of sense, but I disagree on Morgan at 3. "This doesn't look the greatest Eng squad anyway but even within the squad they could do things better" sums it up nicely, as does the need for more runs and 5 bowlers. You state the need to score 350, so would you ditch the Giles formula?

@Lachie Gibbs Buttler opening? Please explain

@Charlie Ellis @Nick Ellis Stokes at 3? Certainly an option but Stokes has hardly done much in his international career with the bat. But I suppose it could be worth a punt. @Charlie Ellis agree on Woakes for Bresnan, Carberry for Cook, and Briggs rather than Tredwell.

To repost my team for tomorrow 1.Bell 2.Carberry 3.Ballance 4.Morgan (c) 5.Bopara 6.Buttler 7.Stokes 8.Woakes 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs

Posted by JoshFromJamRock on (January 18, 2014, 13:47 GMT)

This England ODI team is quite decent actually. They just need to place their aggressive batsmen at strategic positions within the lineup. At full strength, England don't need to keep Bopara, Morgan and Buttler until the slog overs. Ideally if I was a selector I would put KP and Cook to open, then have Bell and Morgan at 3 and 4, then have Bopara and Ballance at 5 and 6, then Buttler and Stokes at 7 and 8. Broad would bat at 9 with Jordan and Anderson rounding off the lineup.

1)KP 2)Cook 3)Bell 4)Morgan 5)Bopara 6)Ballance 7)Buttler 8)Stokes 9)Broad 10)Jordan 11)Anderson

I see problems already with this XI but it surely is better than the others fielded so far. Just for the selectors to have vision

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 18, 2014, 13:31 GMT)

It is all a bit of an anti climax after the Ashes massacre

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (January 18, 2014, 12:01 GMT)

A lot (once again) depends on which Mitchell Johnson turns up, and I doubt McKay will struggle again. In addition to JG2704's points, I'd once again like to stress the importance of adjusting game plans depending on game circumstances. Personally I don't mind England's 'go-slow' approach at the beginning of the innings, but what I don't get and never have is that when they've successfully set a decent platform, England still refuse to bring in the power hitters and instead stick to their rigid team sheet and refuse to adjust batting orders accordingly. Surely Root's time is up... and Tredwell HAS to play.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 11:57 GMT)

Such bravado by the long suffering Oz fans. Your tail enders got you out of jail so often in the Test matches and Faulkner saved the day yesterday. You are not as good as you think you are and England are not as bad as they think they are.

Drop Root for sure, bring back Broad and promote Stokes to 3. Leave Morgan where he is unless the top 3 get big scores in which case bring him up to 4.

I fancy England to win the next ODI

Posted by JG2704 on (January 18, 2014, 11:47 GMT)

Jos should be set/batting in the 2nd set of PP overs. Morgan seems to gel well with Buttler.Even before Morgan's latter inns onslaught the pair ran superbly between the wickets.What I particularly liked was the passage of play when Jos was in and had faced about 7-10 balls and he was just manipulating the ball (from decent deliveries) for 2s so England were scoring 6 runs off 3 decent balls without taking any real risks, I think Jos had scored something like 25 off 18 and had only played one expansive shot to get him to that score and I'm not even sure if he had scored a boundary either. Also I believe that this puts pressure on the bowlers and they start bowling looser stuff (overttrying) Jos's aggressive shots weren't well timed at all but he proved that with a busy mindset a player can score comfortably at over a SR of 100 even when you're not hitting the ball well and if a bowler is going at 7/8 an over then he's under pressure whether it be from hitting or running aggressively

Posted by JG2704 on (January 18, 2014, 11:25 GMT)

Another point re the last game was how much more costly the Root review could have been. The point wasn't mentioned on the thread but Morgan got out earlier in his inns when having a snail race with Bell but the decision was reversed whan Aus had insufficient men inside the circle. You could say it was clever by Morgan to notice this and play the shot knowing he could not be out. But isn't this technically a review of some sort and I wonder if the umpires would have been within their rights to refuse to look at it? I suppose it's technically a no ball so maybe they need to review all no ball aspects after any ddismissal?

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 18, 2014, 11:17 GMT)

Let's see if Root reviews if he gets out LBW. He might be next on the plane home. Looks a total mess. Hope England pulls together. Some of these guys will soon be walking anti-clockwise in circles gibbering to themselves if things get any worse.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 11:04 GMT)

1Cook* 2Bell 3Stokes 4Ballance 5Morgan 6Buttler+ 7Bopara 8Bresnan 9Broad 10Jordan 11Briggs Can't pick Root on batting form, even though none of the other batsmen bowl much. Its a shoot-out between Stokes and Root for who will provide a 6th bowling option, but BS is wasted at 8 and our top order needing more boundary threat, so throw Stokes in at 3 and drop Root. Woakes for Bresnan won't happen but should if (when) this series is gone. Need a spinner - they're obviously worried by Tredwell's thrashing at home by Bailey et al, so pick Briggs to turn it away from the Aussie RH middle-order. Cook for Carberry would be a no brainer if he wasn't skipper, although he is doing such an uninspiring job that replacing him for both doesn't look so bad. As poorly as England bowled at the death in Brisbane, we have to credit Faulkner who was beyond class, just so much bottle and cleverness (hit 6s to short midwicket boundary, work 2s at other end). Finishing like MS Dhoni, only after 224 fewer ODIs!

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 10:56 GMT)

The english are wasting Ben stokes at no.8! With Broad to come back in they should drop root and bring in Treadwell with him batting 11. Jos Butler moves to opener and Ian bell goes down to no.3 which is a more ballanced side. Also morgan moved up ahead of ballance so he gets even more time to bat as he is easily there best odi batsman

final XI 1.Cook 2.Butler 3.Bell 4.Morgan 5. Ballance 6. Bopara 7.Stokes 8.Broad 9.Bresnan 10.Jordan 11/Treadwell

Posted by CodandChips on (January 18, 2014, 10:53 GMT)

Surely Giles' position must be under threat. I know he hasn't had acess to certain players, but his record is poor. We won 1 out of 3 vs New Zealand at home. Then in the CT13 we only beat Australia when it would have been criminal not to, beat New Zealand (only just, and the game was shortened) and South Africa (without Steyn, Morkel and Smith). Even then, these 3 were won by the bowlers. Can't remember the result at home to Aus (Don't think we won any did we?).

His formula doesn't work. We open with Cook and Bell who are unable to raise the tempo. Contrast Aus- Warner and Finch, India-Dhawan and Sharma (starts of slow but finishes quickly and can hit boundarys), South Africa- Amla and De Kock (bat through but at pace) New Zealand- Guptill and Ryder etc. Also in county cricket, the most successful opening pairs all score quickly- Vince and Carberry, Lumb and Hales, Trego and Trescothick etc.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 18, 2014, 10:53 GMT)

This doesn't look the greatest Eng squad anyway but even within the squad they could do things better. If we're going to gamble with a line up which adds to batting depth but takes away bowling depth then we need to be looking to push up to 350 which means more of our players playing expansively and some of our so called fluent players actually showing more fluency. That's not going to happen. We have Carberry as an option but I reckon he's more likely to be the player who played so timidly in the last ODI series and the test series than the dangerman who plays for Hants. So surely England must play 5 specialist bowlers plus Bopara. I have no huge issue with who exactly they pick but my team would look something like this

2 from Cook/Bell/Carberry (if MC comes in he must play expansively otherwise it's pointless) ,Morgan,Ballance,Buttler,Bopara,Stokes, Bres/Woakes , Broad , Jordan , Briggs/Tredwell

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 18, 2014, 9:50 GMT)

Michael Carberry, never out of form this whole torrid tour, is a destructive One Day player. I think that Giles & Cook owe it to him to give him an opportunity to stake his place in the first-pick XI. Who makes way? A no-brainer IMO - Joe Root - whose confidence is utterly shot. The two wickets he picked up at the Gabba would have gone to any slow bowler because the batsmen got themselves out; they're not a sound reason to retain him. There was no turn there anyway. Otherwise, Broad must replace Rankin. That stiffens the lower order up too. There might well be a case for the canny Tredwell in place of Bresnan. I'd go with Tredders for presenting something different. Lastly, I wonder whether we'll see the faintly (increasingly faintly) comic grouping at the bowler's end as the captain mulls over where to place the field. Does Cook begin these debates with: 'Are we quorate?' He might as well!

Posted by landl47 on (January 18, 2014, 9:46 GMT)

Cook has really lost the plot. I've never been that keen on him in ODIs, but he gave the game away last time out. Giving Bopara, who can bowl a tight line and length, only 5 overs and young Stokes, who isn't the most accurate in the world, all 10 was madness.

Some good things in the game though. At least it was competitive.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 9:45 GMT)

Let's see Patto have a bowl.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 18, 2014, 9:43 GMT)

Time for 3-0 and another smashing series win over Eng. Funny feeling that with Aus on such a high we are in for somthing special. Aus to get 400+ bating 1st with couple of v big 1s by Aus bats. A W by 200+ runs. P/timers Bop,Root wont get lucky this time.

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 18, 2014, 9:27 GMT)

@ TheBigBoodha : Good point about NCN and Patto being similar. I'd be happy to swap Patto and NCN just as much as McKay. .. My thinking in including Pattinson was just as much about giving him some intense cricket with a view to SA as much as this ODI series. .. I think they'll take him but he needs some proper game time to get him ready I'd say.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 8:51 GMT)

Maybe a more apt title would be England seeks second whitewash of the tour?

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 18, 2014, 8:36 GMT)

Can't see the point in putting Pattinson and CNile in the same team - too similar. And Pattisnon is a hit the deck type, a bit of a bonehead. Not really a good ODI bowler. But maybe he has learnt a few variations.

It'll be hard for England to bounce back. I'm an Aussie but I feel so sorry for Cook that I almost hope they do.

Almost.

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 18, 2014, 8:34 GMT)

@ ihaq1 : Beautiful summary there old mate. I had to read it twice to pick up it's nuances but as a relatively uninformed cricket maniac, that looks be what happened and what Eng. should do.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 8:28 GMT)

Cook/Carberry Bell Ballance Morgan Bopara Butler Stokes Broad/Woakes Jordan Tredwell Rankin

Posted by CodandChips on (January 18, 2014, 8:09 GMT)

Need to learn lessons from Friday. Giles' absurd formula not work for the following reasons:

1.Had the top order done their job we would have got nowhere near 300.

2.4 bowlers is not enough, especially when Rankin is poor and Stokes is not a full time bowler

3.Finishers need more time to do their work

Out Cook, Root (both need a rest), Rankin and Bresnan. In Carberry, Woakes, Broad and Briggs. Woakes is arguably just as good as Bresnan but can bat better and has potential. The only advantage Bresnan has is experience. Broad is class and better than Rankin. Briggs cos we need a spinner and I don't trust Tredwell anymore following his annihilation at home. Carberry to try and score quickly at the top.

1.Bell 2.Carberry 3.Ballance 4.Morgan (c) 5.Bopara 6.Buttler 7.Stokes 8.Woakes 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs

Stokes hasn't done great so far in ODIs. A bit of pressure on him methinks

Posted by ihaq1 on (January 18, 2014, 7:53 GMT)

i think england need to consider resting cook for the rest of teh series...he seems jaded and cannot control his bowlers...who donot realize teh difference between bowling wide, short or half volleys...when a batsman like faulkner is around and hitting like that u must keep teh ball away from him or hit the yorkers...u must make a hitter hit teh ball along teh ground...a spinner probably can come in for any of teh english fast bowlers and probably broad as well...jordan showed that he can bowl really well...england are batting better but forgot that faulkner has been doing this very recently..they just must not give maxwell and faulkner any sort of hittable deliveries...opening with bell and carberry might be appropriate with either cook going inro teh middle or resting himself for a match or two...u cant drop root after taking two wickets although his batting has failed .. a half volley is just not good enough..bresnan's selection is questionable and rankin is bowling too short

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 18, 2014, 7:45 GMT)

I'd be very tempted to bring Pattinson in for McKay. Not that C Mac has done anything wrong, but I think it's time to see if Patto has recovered or not. I don't think he's actually that good a one day bowler but by the same token that doesn't mean he can't learn how to do it. .. Bring him in, lets see what he's got.

Posted by AJ_Tiger86 on (January 18, 2014, 7:37 GMT)

What?? Cook will still play after his disastrous performance with the bat and captaincy since the English summer? What does he need to do to get dropped from this side? It seems like he knows he will never be dropped, and therefore has become lazy. Every player should earn his place in the XI.

Posted by Cricmaths123 on (January 18, 2014, 7:19 GMT)

I wish the Australian team for the third ODI looks like this. 1. Finch 2. Warner 3. Clarke 4. Bailey 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. Haddin 8. Faulkner 9. Johnson 10. Pattinson 11. Doherty.

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 7:07 GMT)

1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Joe Root, 4 Ravi Bopara, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Ben Stokes 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 B Tim Bresnan 9 Stuart Broad 10 Chris Jordan, 10 James Tredwell 11 Chris Jordan

Posted by   on (January 18, 2014, 6:36 GMT)

Shane Watson is still officially resting. He seems to spend a lot of time either resting or injured. I know he has saved Australia in the past with bat and/or ball, but not all that often, and certainly not as often as a number three bat and fifth bowler should. Has the time come for Australia to concentrate on batsmen who can bowl (Maxwell, Clarke) and bowlers who can bat (Johnston, Pattinson, Faulkner, Coulter-Nile)? Give up the search for the Holy Grail of the true all-rounder (remember the definition - someone who can hold their spot in the team on the strength of their batting or bowling alone) because Australia currently has no-one who fits the bill. Warner, Finch, Marsh, Clarke, Bailey, Maxwell, Haddin, Faulkner, Johnson, Pattinson, Coulter-Nile looks really strong to me. Quicks covered, three part-time spinners and batting to burn.

Posted by sasidharbiet on (January 18, 2014, 5:49 GMT)

Australia is very strong team now, they have allrounders like watson,faulkner,maxwell,jhonson.Strong hitters like warner,finch,bailey.bowling with mccay,doherty,pattinson,.Now australia is right team for NO.1 in ODI

Posted by sreni on (January 18, 2014, 5:48 GMT)

Root and Cook must go, make bell the captain, play Tredwell and Cardberry..Dont know how many matches Eng need to see Root cant play at this level..

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 18, 2014, 5:44 GMT)

How about that Steve Back? You can't doubt Faulkner now.

Posted by Micky.Panda on (January 18, 2014, 5:20 GMT)

I really think Bird is needed to bowl a tight line like a G McGrath. Another high controlled spinner would be great too. Not sure if Doherty is the best option. Its great to have get out of jail players like Maxwell and Faulkner, but they cannot do it every time when we get behind on the run rate. I fear that if S Marsh makes a big score, Australia will lose as he just doesn't ever seem to have the urgency, although to fair he had to stabilise this innings somewhat. Semi-retired guys like Mike Hussey, Brad Hogg, Hodge are missed. Don't worry about youth. Just pick the most reliable players for run rate and average. We need bowlers that will really frustrate the opposition with their accuracy and can bat a bit too. Not sure that Coulter-Nile and McKay are the answer. Australia was incredibly lucky that England bowled badly at the end.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 18, 2014, 5:16 GMT)

Australia and India both seem to be taking ODI cricket to another place at the moment. 350 is the new 300. It's exciting seeing T20 style attacking batting in the 50 over version.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (January 18, 2014, 5:00 GMT)

If England want to win they MUST play Tredwell

Posted by stumpedlloyd on (January 18, 2014, 4:17 GMT)

Stuart Broad comes in for England at the SCG. Did we forget that tidbit in writing the preview? On another note, what exactly is Bresnan doing in this team? Broad for Bresnan, Briggs for Rankin.

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