Australia v England, 4th ODI, Perth

Australia aim to keep No.1 ranking

The Preview by Brydon Coverdale

January 23, 2014

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'England's best chance for a win'

Match facts

January 24, 2014, Perth
Start time 11.20am (0320GMT)


George Bailey plays a drive, Australia v England, 5th Test, Sydney, 3rd day, January 5, 2014
George Bailey's Test position might be gone but he still has plenty to offer in the one-day game © Getty Images
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The Big picture

Australia began Wednesday second on the ICC's one-day international rankings. The players went for a spot of training, returned to their hotel in Perth, probably watched some television and by the end of the day they were No.1. India's loss to New Zealand in the second ODI in Hamilton was enough to drop MS Dhoni's men down from first to second on the rankings list and, by default, Australia will enter their fourth ODI in Perth occupying the top spot. Of course, if they lose to England at the WACA, it could be the shortest rule since Frank Forde spent a week as Australia's prime minister back in 1945. But their stated goal is to return to the top of the rankings in all three formats, and their victories in the first three matches of this series have allowed them to achieve that in the 50-over game - even if it is only temporarily.

To retain their ranking, Australia will need to rely on a second string batting line-up with Michael Clarke, Shane Watson, David Warner and Brad Haddin all rested now that the series has been decided. For a period on Wednesday it even appeared that their stand-in captain George Bailey might miss a second consecutive game after picking up a hip flexor niggle during the win in Brisbane, which might have meant a captaincy debut for his nominated deputy Mitchell Johnson or a rushed flight to Perth for one of the resting men. However, on Thursday, Bailey was passed fit and will lead the Australians as they hope to continue towards another clean sweep over Alastair Cook's side.

For Cook, it looms as serious challenge to lift his team given the series is now dead, and considering the way he responded to the loss in Sydney. After the game, a despondent Cook indicated that his time as ODI captain could be coming to an end, and that "English cricket needs a little bit of a change". Presumably he meant personnel, but a change in on-field results would be a good start. Victory in Perth would also prevent this England side from joining the 1993 and 2001 outfits as the only England teams ever to lose 10 consecutive matches across all formats. Against an Australian team missing four of their finest players, this could be England's best chance.

Form guide

(Completed matches, most recent first)

Australia WWWLL
England LLLLW

Watch out for

It has been an up-and-down week for George Bailey, who on Monday was named Australia's One-Day International Player of the Year at the Allan Border Medal night in Sydney, having earlier that day missed out on selection in Australia's Test squad to tour South Africa. But as befits a man of Bailey's maturity, he took his Test axing in his stride and concentrated instead on ensuring he recovered from his hip flexor injury in time for this ODI. Bailey decided against going out with the team to celebrate the series win on Sunday night or his personal award on Monday evening so that he could maximise his chances of recovering. Now he wants to show the selectors that he still has plenty of runs in him.

Ian Bell has made starts in all three ODIs so far in this series but is yet to go on and make a really big score. His scores of 41, 68 and 29 have shown that he is in decent touch but perhaps the most frustrating thing for Bell has been that in two of the three innings he has been run out. Perhaps Perth, where he played club cricket ten years ago, will be kinder to him.

Team news

Australia confirmed their XI on Thursday, with four changes from the side that won in Sydney. Clarke, Haddin and Warner will all miss after being rested, while Xavier Doherty will also be left out on a surface expected to offer more to the fast men. Bailey will return from injury and Johnson from a rest, while the other two inclusions are Steven Smith for his first ODI in more than a year and Matthew Wade, who is keen to prove that he still has plenty to offer at international level.

Australia 1 Aaron Finch, 2 Shaun Marsh, 3 George Bailey (capt), 4 Steven Smith, 5 Glenn Maxwell, 6 Matthew Wade (wk), 7 Daniel Christian, 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson, 10 Nathan Coulter-Nile, 11 James Pattinson.

The promotion of Ben Stokes to No.3 in the Sydney match did not work out for England but Perth was the site of his maiden Test century during the Ashes, so they may be inclined to give him another chance. James Tredwell might struggle to hold his place given the expected pace in the WACA pitch, although Boyd Rankin is unavailable due to a hamstring problem, so Chris Woakes could come in if Tredwell is left out.

England (possible) 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Ben Stokes, 4 Gary Ballance, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Ravi Bopara, 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 Tim Bresnan, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 Chris Jordan, 11 James Tredwell / Chris Woakes.

Pitch and conditions

The WACA should offer more pace and bounce than any of the venues so far in the series. The forecast for Perth is partly cloudy and 33C.

Stats and trivia

  • If England lose in Perth it will be their 10th straight loss in all formats combined, equalling their record losing streaks set in 1993 and 2001

  • Australia's last period at the top of the ICC one-day rankings ended in August 2012

  • Australia have used 21 captains in one-day internationals, including Ray Bright and David Hookes, and had Bailey been ruled out due to injury they might have added a 22nd

Quotes

"It probably is their best chance. But having said that I think our side is still pretty good."
George Bailey believes his team is capable of extending England's losing streak

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Posted by Greatest_Game on (January 24, 2014, 22:17 GMT)

@ testcricket_lover, @ Cantbat.Cantbowl.CantField, @ Shaggy076, @ Marcio all gave me stick for commenting how ironic it is that Aus got to #1 in ODIs because SA & NZ beat the team that Aus could not. Amidst much protesting from them, Shaggy reckoned the only thing that was sad was my post.

So, fellers, after Aus' one day reign at the top, what do you say now. Do Aus still "really deserve" the #1 ranking after folding to the limp Poms? And talking of irony, they surrendered the top One Day Ranking after ..... one day ;) That is a LOT sadder than my post, right Shaggy. I mean ONE DAY!!! Pretty darn miserable in fact.

@ Will90 - I'n not Indian. Try again, but I do agree, as you wrote, that "India should be below NZ in the rankings! :)"

Australia - forever the One Day Champs! That record will be hard to beat.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (January 24, 2014, 21:59 GMT)

@ Naman Gupta wrote "australia has done well and deserve the no 1 ranking."

Yesterday. Today, no. Shortest #1 ranking in history?

Posted by Greatest_Game on (January 24, 2014, 17:28 GMT)

@ Marcio asked "if Warner, Clarke and Johnson had played the whole series, do you think India would still have won in India?"

Yes. After being whitewashed in the tests, what did you expect - a miracle?

Posted by   on (January 24, 2014, 5:29 GMT)

australia has done well and deserve the no 1 ranking. But clarke as captain looked a little flat this series - which is understandable considering the recent workload. Bailey looked good as captain in limited overs and probably should be stuck with as captain for ODI. I mean to use a half strength side touring against a full strength no 1 (then) and reduce the loss to 3-2 shows his captaincy credibility.

Posted by Will90 on (January 24, 2014, 3:19 GMT)

@Greatest Game; it is well-known both sides are much stronger at home. The last time India played an ODI series in Australia (with Sri Lanka), Australia won 3 games to 1. So the aggregate between the teams is 5-4 to Australia. And of our last 11 games, 7 were played in India.

Moreover, if Australia don't deserve to be ahead of India because you beat us in your own backyard, India should be below NZ in the rankings! :)

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 24, 2014, 3:04 GMT)

@ Ballebaazzzzzzzzzzz

Do you really want to open that can of worms? Australia is the most accomplished cricket nation ever.

" I guess u have forgotten who broke the Test record winning streak of austrailia"

I can't believe you're claiming this. I think that most will agree that 16 consecutive wins (twice) is more of an accomplishment then the team who prevented them from getting the 17th consecutive win.

Win a test series in Australia and then we can begin to entertain India's dominance in the game. Until then continue to enjoy your home success.

Posted by dms1972 on (January 24, 2014, 2:57 GMT)

@Ballebaazzzzzzzzzzz, who has broken the Test winning streak of Australia's? As far as Cricinfo is concerned Australia's record of 16 (twice) still stands. Not sure how India's two World Cups beats Australia's four. India have hosted the World Cup three times (compared to Australia's once) and only won at home at the third attempt. Again, not sure how India's two Champions Trophy wins (one shared) beats Australia's two. India have won one T20 World Cup compared to Australia's once being runner-up. Australians continue playing in the IPL after retiring from internationals cos they get paid lots and lots of money, not because it's in India, so all your ranting and raving actually counts for very little.

Posted by aussie1993 on (January 24, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

@ballllebaaz let me ask u question which team has highest win% in tests nd odi,who have won wc 4 times,2 champions trophy,16 consecutive test wins twice,21 consecutive odi wins,most successful team in test nd odi cricket

Posted by Lion_96 on (January 24, 2014, 2:24 GMT)

Can sumone explain to me why ENG are facing their 10th consecutive loss and not their 9th? 5-0 in the Ashes, 3-0 in current ODI series, that makes it 8-0. Is Brydon getting ahead of himself??

Posted by Marcio on (January 24, 2014, 2:09 GMT)

So Greatest-Game, if Warner, Clarke and Johnson had played the whole series, do you think India would still have won in India? Personally, I doubt it.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 24, 2014, 1:59 GMT)

Greatest_Game; Absolutely pathetic post. Yeah we lost to India in one-day cricket after withdrawing a couple of our main players to prepare for the Ashes but that was on Indian soil and went to within one game. Our one-day record is also excellent on Indian soil. We had absolutely no problems beating them over here last year. In the last couple of years we have won one-day internationals against both South Africa and New Zealand away as well as England and Pakistan away. Our one-day recent record is deserving of number one on our own merit, India losing on foreign soil was a given and all Australia needed was for India to finally play some games away from home. Your calling us pathetic yet we were able to achieve exactly the same fete as South Africa and beat India away. So the only sad thing is your post.

Posted by Yorkersandbouncers on (January 24, 2014, 1:46 GMT)

I don't know why people are trying to defend India. They don't deserve to be the number one side in the world with that bowling attack. Also, they have lost to South Africa and New Zealand (a side ranked 7th!!! in the ODI ladder).

Yes, Australia had some luck getting to number 1, but they performed better in the ODI series in India, than the Indians performed in SA and NZ.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 24, 2014, 1:33 GMT)

@Ballebaazzzzzzzzzzz. Why do you even persist? Yes India has had its success's but seriously. Only one country has a positive win/loss ratio in tests, only one country has won 4 world cups (2 undefeated) A champions trophy & has managed to defeat every other country more than once away. Retired Aussie cricketers & those from other countries go to the IPL for the simple reason they are far better than much of the local talent., who btw have a lot of guys playing in the IPL who would struggle to play 2nd grade in Sydney teams. Go post on your own forums.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 24, 2014, 1:05 GMT)

@Catcha Wakeup . Coming from a yaarpie, that's gold!! LOL

Posted by Chris_P on (January 24, 2014, 1:01 GMT)

I really wish, just for something totally different, that people post to the relevant subject, which is England/Australia. Yes we all totally get that you support your country, yes we all understand your have limited to no cricket knowledge, what we don't get is why you flaunt your lack of knowledge so publically? I mean, just how many times can we laugh at vague posts?

Posted by   on (January 24, 2014, 0:49 GMT)

I feel sorry for George Bailey all his achievements was not taken into account when the squad for South Africa was announced

Posted by   on (January 24, 2014, 0:48 GMT)

Big game from Australia, All the best aussies!!!!

Posted by Stat1977 on (January 24, 2014, 0:13 GMT)

This is overrated! Australia was just able to draw the ODI series with SL 2-2.They purposely abandoned one match to avoid SL win.They were all out for 74 in on match.They were beaten by SL in champions trophy.Isn't this over rating?

Posted by MrOMFS on (January 24, 2014, 0:04 GMT)

ICC Test ranking from 1952 to now show Aust has been number one for 317 weeks compared to the 2nd best which is 235 weeks for WI while Ind has been ranked number one for 45 weeks and SL none! While looking at the ODI ranking data from 1982 onwards Aust has been ranked number 1 for 163 weeks compared to 20 weeks for India and again 0 weeks for SL. Personally, I am massive fan of all cricket and enjoy any form of good cricket. I love the Indian and SL cricket and love what they bring to cricket. But its silly for so many Ind and SL fans are here trying to put Australia down. I think we all know Australia is to Cricket what Brazil is to football. And thats the simple fact that Australia is the most successful Cricket team in History.

Posted by   on (January 24, 2014, 0:00 GMT)

India should play in India

Posted by MrOMFS on (January 23, 2014, 23:52 GMT)

@ Ballebaazzzzzzzzzzz I'm not sure what you are actually to point out in your post. Yes India did stop Australia's 16 test match winning streak however we were good enough to make it to 16 (Twice infact). India's longest streak is 5. Yes India has won the WC 2x however Australia has won it 4 times and Yes India has won the champion trophies 1x but Aust has won it 2x. How can you say DS Dhoni is the greatest captain (He is a very good captain no doubt) However if you look at the records S.Waugh and Ponting have a way superior Winning record to him. Dhoni has won approx 50% of his Test while Waugh won 72% and Ponting won 62% of his Test matches. Yes India has won they T20 WC and Yes your right Aust has not, thats the only relevant point you had in your whole post.

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 23, 2014, 23:49 GMT)

So many butthurt fans from around the world. Australia, India, England, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and South Africa all have great ODI sides that are capable of getting to the top ranking with a decent run of form at their backs. Now it seems New Zealand might be joining that list with the help of Anderson and Ryder. Australia are a quality side that isn't far removed from completely dominating world cricket. in ODI's they won the tri series against India lost a tightly contested series in Inia, beat England in England, and are currently embarassing England at home. They deserve number 1 and if they start losing and any one of the teams i mentioned gets some good wins they'll deserve number 1

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 23, 2014, 23:28 GMT)

@ Parth Choksi: Australia don't have the guts to play other teams away from home you say. This coming from a 'hell no, we won't go to South Africa" indian. Where's a bucket, I'm gunna be sick.

Posted by Kolpak1989 on (January 23, 2014, 23:11 GMT)

You know your team bats deep when James Pattinson is your number 11...

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 23:08 GMT)

Jas.Sodh. Very well said mate. Criticism should be constructive and not just jealous rants. Anyhow coming back to Cricket it is great to see the competition for No 1. India will have more motivation now to regain the top spot.

Posted by lancs-lion on (January 23, 2014, 23:07 GMT)

Lumb, Hales, Morgan, Bopara, Butler, Stokes, Broad, Jordan, Anderson, Treadwell, Onions. World champions right there.

Posted by lancs-lion on (January 23, 2014, 23:01 GMT)

P L E A S E ...not Bresnan....A G A I N !!

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 23:01 GMT)

England won't lose 10 in a row; they won against the PM's XI. I know it's a meaningless victory against a lesser opposition, but I still think it's unfair to say they lost "10 in a row".

Posted by RandyOZ on (January 23, 2014, 22:30 GMT)

No one actually believed India were No 1, come on guys. Still cannot believe Hughsey isnt in the team what a a waste!

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 22:22 GMT)

Australia- 16 Test Match outright wins in a row. Twice in 10 years... When the Saffers do that then they will be the best.

Posted by Cantbat.Cantbowl.CantField. on (January 23, 2014, 22:14 GMT)

@Greatest_Game - Oh who cares how Australia got to number one? It's an acumulative ranking and they can come by default. Conditions are different everywhere and teams/players come in and out of form. Almost any team can beat any other team on their day, especially in ODI/T20. That's what makes cricket the GREATEST GAME after all.

Posted by testcricket_lover on (January 23, 2014, 21:23 GMT)

@Greatest_Game.......Come on mate you got to be kidding me.........When Ind got to Rank1..... even then it's the same thing that India got the Rank 1 becoz some one else lost it.....

Posted by testcricket_lover on (January 23, 2014, 21:17 GMT)

@Ballebaazzzzzzzzzzz.......I agree that India is the team that broke that winning streak ....But u might've forgotten that india was thrashed 4 times in that 16 wins...........And coming to IPL .....They are playing for money mate.....So what's ur point about it..........

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (January 23, 2014, 21:16 GMT)

I'm reading through the comments. Lots from India, lots from Australia, a couple of others. I can't see much of an English presence! It looks like even their fans have thrown in the towel!

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 21:09 GMT)

It's such a privilege to see Australia thump England. England came to this your being all over confident like they always are in every sport. It's just embedded in their mannerism and the way they are. Be it their under achieving football team or tennis (Murray). Their cricket team show no regard and is arrogant. I have never felt so happy seeing England lose. It's been the best past 2 months.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 23, 2014, 20:59 GMT)

@Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest on (January 23, 2014, 9:11 GMT) re "India has a much better bowling attack than Aus..... Don't know why Aus are ahead in the rankings "

May have something to do with the fact that they've not just lost 2-0 to a 8thor9th (pre series)ranked side

Posted by JG2704 on (January 23, 2014, 20:58 GMT)

@DarshanDudhoria on (January 23, 2014, 18:00 GMT) Here here my friend

@CodandChips on (January 23, 2014, 17:47 GMT) Fair points there. I think Wright could do a job but he has to play his brand of cricket. Same with Hales and Lumb if they came in. Re Carberry - I thought every time I saw him in England whites/colours he looked almost petrified to attack. I wonder if this is and England tactics thing or players being overawed by playing for England? There would be no point in changing the top 3 around if anyone who comes in plays like Bell and Cook. Still I'm glad to see that Jos is now in your top 5

Posted by Ballebaazzzzzzzzzzz on (January 23, 2014, 19:50 GMT)

Pras Punter I guess u have forgotten who broke the Test record winning streak of austrailia

Who holds world cup t20 have won away RSA

who won world cup twice one home and one away ENG

Who won Champions trophy away ENG and once shared finals in SL

Who is the most successful captain to hold all the major trophies listed under ICC panel

Why do Australians retire from international team still continue playing IPL...

BLEED BLUE....

Posted by Albert_cambell on (January 23, 2014, 19:38 GMT)

Aussies are a quality side and I still back them to win this game, despite of missing some of their main players. I would have picked Voges over Smith, since he has done well in the past. I am glad that they dropped hughes. This guy cant handle swing bowlers. He even struggled to Kulasekera, who bowls at 130KPH.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (January 23, 2014, 19:31 GMT)

Australia got to the ODI #1 because SA and NZ took down India, who beat Australia in their recent ODI series. Aus could not get there on their own steam, but had to have the title handed to them by SA & NZ. Pretty ironic really. #1 because other teams beat the team they could not beat! Somewhat sad really.

Posted by indianzen on (January 23, 2014, 19:09 GMT)

Every team are strong in their own country... Be it India or Eng or Aus or NZ... outside, every country is vulnerable. even SA can win in AUS. Even India cant win in SL. No point in arguing who is the best...

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 18:48 GMT)

India holds 2nd place in all 3 formats

Posted by Jas.Sohd on (January 23, 2014, 18:07 GMT)

All you people need to relax a little. True criticism is when your words inspire a team to make changes and do better. When you start mocking other teams it's mostly out of pure jealousy. Every team and player plays to win. It's just that sometimes one team does better than others. We(Eng) were better 2 years ago India were better yesterday and Aus are better 2day maybe SA will be better 2maro. Best we can do for cricket is love our team and respect others

Posted by DarshanDudhoria on (January 23, 2014, 18:00 GMT)

This is an Indian speaking, who is also a supporter of Australian cricket team. Its indeed very heart-breaking to see that fans of 2 nations arguing regarding which team is better of the two. One calling the other team a home-track bully. Its only the better team who will be ranked higher of the two any given day. We should enjoy the success of our team and support them when they aren't at their best instead of criticizing other teams. Each and every team goes through a rough phase. But they always try to give their best. We don't know about the hard work the players put in. Its because of their hard work only that they are No. 1 and 2 in the world. Being No. 2 is no child's play. So we should enjoy the cricket being played by top cricketing teams in the world instead of criticizing other teams. Cheers and no offense.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 23, 2014, 17:47 GMT)

@JG2704 I hear what you're saying on Wright. But I don't think he's improved much in the last 7 years (doesn't overhit as much I guess) so I can't see him progressing much further. He was also awful in the 2 ODIs he played this summer (I know small sample).

On Cook and Bell, I don't think they are the guys to get us off to a quick start. They've never really done it, so I doubt they can- they always seem to just plod along. There might be the odd 30 off 25, but that's about it. At least Ballance can be defended on the basis of it being his first series, and that he has shown his destructive capabilities with Yorkshire. On Stokes this seires imo he has been largely dissapointing, just like he has in the rest of his ODI career.

@Alekhya Chakrabarty the CT13 pitches were ridiculously dry. Dry summmer, new drainage, and played at Cardiff- history of slow low pitches, Edgbaston- a seamer's graveyard, and the Oval- a turner. Also many Indian fans live/were born in England.

Posted by aussie1993 on (January 23, 2014, 17:29 GMT)

@albert cambell let me remimd u we won series against pakistan in uae in 2012

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 23, 2014, 17:03 GMT)

A big quiz for all those obsessed fans from india.

1) Who won 4 WCs including 3 in a row , all away from home ? 2) Who won the champions trophy not once but twice ? 3) Who holds the record for the most consecutive number of test and ODI victories ? 4) Which is the only team that has remained undefeated in SA since their readmission ?

If india is the answer for one of your questions, we are the answer for 10 big things !! Accept it and move on !! Aus has always been ahead of india.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 16:16 GMT)

Pop quiz for Oz Fans here. Who is the current holder of the 2013 Champions trophy,having not lost a single match in that tournament ( including the 2 practice matches),and which was surprise,surprise held outside their own backyard? :D

Posted by DD_f0rever on (January 23, 2014, 16:01 GMT)

Aus might be looking threatening as of now but the reality is they are HOME TRACK BULLIES.

Look @ their record in Eng....Got white-washed.....Can't play fast bowling...Has poor record in sub-continent ....shows Aus can't play spin....

Aus surely does not deserve to be #1.

If any team that comes close to being No. 1 it is none other than Pakistan...

We beat SA in SA.

We beat Ind in Ind.

We beat Eng in UAE.

We beat SL just now 3rd Test..

What else you want ?

Juanid > Johnson .........

Misbah > Whole Aus batting line-up lol

Posted by NathanMJ54 on (January 23, 2014, 15:36 GMT)

You've got to be kidding, @Parth Choksi. The same logic applies to India, who consistently fail outside of India. In fact, Australia succeed away from home far more often than India does. Success in India is not the benchmark for modern teams. Success against the world's best team, South Africa, is the benchmark. For India, success isn't winning at home on vastly different pitches to everywhere else, it's going overseas and returning with some silverware, which they rarely do.

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (January 23, 2014, 15:29 GMT)

It seems that a lot of the people here are calling this a Australian 2nd XI. We have Falkner batting at 8. The batting depth is formidable. We also have Johnston in - hardly a 2nd XI bowler-. All in all, its still a very competitive team. England will probably lose this game as well. It's Perth after all. When was the last time England one an ODI there?

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 15:23 GMT)

I think Pak is the only team who unfortunately is playing their every game away from home and still maintaining healthy win loss ratio.Not to mention being the only team to beat India in their soil for like past 3 or 4 years.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (January 23, 2014, 15:23 GMT)

@PrasPunter ; Australia have played 13 matches against Sri Lanka during last 2 years, lost 7 games n won only 5 games. They avoided a series defeat thanks to bad weather( the game was called off after 30 mins of light rain. lol). So, you have nothing to brag about when it comes to SL.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 15:21 GMT)

reading all the arrogant comments of Aus fans make me sick. Beating an ordinary eng side makes you different than many other teams struggling to win outside their own backyard. Funny how when Indians thrash you in India you all go berzerk with flat track bullies tag and now you are not doing anything different, just remove flat and add fast to that.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 14:46 GMT)

All the best to Alastair cook.. with no best captain(Clarke) in the opposition he would easily make his 1st 100 of this frustrating series.. But i hope the result after the match will be... again that old story 4-0

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 23, 2014, 14:24 GMT)

@Parth Choksi, Aus recent ODI record - 3-2 against SL away, 3-2 against Pak away, 2-1 against SA away , 2-1 against Eng away, lost only 2-3 against india away.

ind just lost an odi series against SA 0-2, lost to Eng 0-3, lost to Pak 1-2 at home, and lost to Aus in the tri-series down-under.

Only those who have been living under rock would claim that india is better than Aus.

Posted by footy_99 on (January 23, 2014, 14:08 GMT)

It's a shame Australia only care enough about this game to field their second string XI. It might still be enough to beat England but let's face it - the Netherlands would be expected to beat them right now.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 23, 2014, 14:06 GMT)

This performance by Australia has been nothing short of monumental.

They lost 3-zip a few months back - although the games were a close contest and luck did not go Aussie's way ... and they have turned it around to win 5-zip in such a comprehensive manner that has been noticed by all and sundry.

Clearly, the natives are getting restless at the prospect of Australia returning to its rightful place at the top of the cricket tree

Well done Australia! Let us make this one day series a flogging to go with the test flogging and then we will have a double flogging!

Posted by ScottStevo on (January 23, 2014, 13:50 GMT)

@Basil777, SA are the best test team, but they aren't anywhere near the best ODI team. As their recent results would suggest. You beat India at home, lost against Pak at home, beat Pak away, got smashed 4-1 away in SL, had a win, tie, loss record in the CT, won3-2 v Pak at home, lost 2-1 at home to NZ, drew 2-2 with Eng away. Add that to your known WC chokes and there's a good reason SA aren't #1 in ODI...In the last series against Aus in SA you were beaten 2-1 and got smashed in the 2 games you lost and won by 3 runs in the game you won. Aus have always been 1 or 2 in ODI rankings. Rightly so too. In the last 3 years Aus win/loss ratio is 1.68 and SA's is 1.38.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 13:43 GMT)

I though this tour was over. These England players must be aching to get home. I as an observer far away in Barbados am tired of it nevermind those English players. For them it must be unbearable. 3 T20's too? It's laughable.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 13:42 GMT)

Not gonna happen. Wait untill they go to south africa and get thrashed. Beatung the se team again and again does not mske you number one. Australains don't have the guts to go out and play other teams in their home land. India will rise to power again. Just a bad series against new zealand does not decide our fate. let us bounce back it wont be very long untill that happens.

Posted by izzidole on (January 23, 2014, 13:42 GMT)

This second string aussie ODI team selected for the fourth match could easily lose to England and help them register their first victory on Australian soil in this ashes series and regain some lost prestige. Also it may not help them stay on top of the world number one ranking for long and come crashing down in no time if they lose which itself would be very embarassing to say the least. As such this match is an important game for both teams. However the cricket fans for this game have been short changed and have been deprived of watching some of the big names in this Aistralian side in action namely Michael Clarke, Shane Watson, David Warner and Brad Haddin who have been rested.

Posted by landl47 on (January 23, 2014, 13:18 GMT)

Maybe it would be better for England to rest Cook for this game. He needs to clear his head. Open with Bell and Carberry. Bopara is a better fit at #3 than Stokes. Woakes isn't going to terrify anyone with the ball, but he adds some extra batting (and Faulkner and Christian aren't exactly speed demons either). Carberry, Bell, Bopara, Ballance, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Woakes, Bresnan, Broad, Jordan, with Morgan as captain. Let's face it, they can't do any worse than the sides England has put out so far, can they?

@Mohammed.Abdullah: No, I don't agree. Finn's so bad at the moment he's had to go home, Dernbach has the worst economy rate in ODI history, you have 3 wicketkeepers, no spinner and only 4 specialist batsmen. Terrible squad.

Posted by Samdanh on (January 23, 2014, 13:17 GMT)

@Soumyas: Agreed. Got your point

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 13:08 GMT)

Its England's misery, Australia's pleasure. It all takes Australia to come back to number 1, the England series. England should take at least two years to rebuild the side.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (January 23, 2014, 13:04 GMT)

Australia's push to maintain it's #1 ranking is in stark contrast to England's (all too) brief 'rise to the top'. It seems the indomitable antipodean spirit, does not see the #1 spot as the final destination but will want to stay there as long as possible. I don't see them letting up at all, even with the new players they bring in. As a result, this match will be hotly contested.

As an England fan, we rested on our laurels when we reached #1 and certainly, we didn't have the bench strength Australia does to maintain this position and still rest players.

Posted by yogicoolboy on (January 23, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

England should rest Cook for the next 3 Matches. They should given the captaincy to Morgan as Cook is struggling

Posted by yogicoolboy on (January 23, 2014, 12:43 GMT)

Personally from my point of view rankings shouldnt be given importance. It i how u play on the given day. Whoever plays well will be nos 1.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

4th ODI in Perth XI 1. Finch 2. Marsh 3. Smith 4. Bailey 5. Christine 6.Maxwell 7. Wade 8. Faulkner 9. Nile 10. Johnson 11. Pattinson

Posted by yogicoolboy on (January 23, 2014, 12:27 GMT)

Personally from my point of view rankings arent that important. It is how u play in the field that matters. If u win you will be nos 1. I dont think india and australia should be worried about that. Whoever plays well on the given day will be nos 1. All the best to both the teams

Posted by yogicoolboy on (January 23, 2014, 12:22 GMT)

Good idea for england may be to rest cook and give morgan the captaince in the next 2 matches. Morgan has a chance to prove his leadership. Give a chance to luke wright also.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 23, 2014, 12:14 GMT)

@ Basil777 on (January 23, 2014, 11:34 GMT) While I still believe South Africa to be the favourites if they both convincingly beat one opponent, then look at the last series we lost to India away and SA beat India at home really no clues there, so the last time the two teams played was the series before that and I loved it and I am hoping the series is the same (different result please) tough hard cricket! ya gotta love playin the saffers :) I do not know why there are no ODI'S that's funny, but I am sure it is not because the Aussies are scared.

Posted by vimal03 on (January 23, 2014, 12:06 GMT)

Australia is a good team but not against SF or in subcontinent. They won't be able to retain the position for a long time. There will be good competition between top four teams in the table. I can see a victory for England in this series.

Posted by Basil777 on (January 23, 2014, 11:34 GMT)

Rankings smankings ; SA is the top team in the world at moment. I wonder why there is no ODI's for SA AUS series. Probably because AUS witness how India got destroyed in the ODI's in SA and dont want to be embarrsed too.

India dropped because SA beat them convincingly at their own game. Who did AUS play to deserve their spot England? We know England was done after the Ashes series.

Posted by jonesy2 on (January 23, 2014, 11:30 GMT)

this second string Australian side is still the worlds best and still lightyears better than englands. if anything I would expect an even better and more aggressive performance from the green and gold in perth, I mean steve smith comes into the side, that reflects perfectly the depth and strength. I don't see how paine isn't being picked.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 23, 2014, 11:16 GMT)

@CodandChips - ctd - I would also say that Luke could become a decent player in international cricket. It is difficult for English players to find favour with IPL franchises and Wright is in good company with KP and Morgan as players who they like. Wright plays at 2 for Melbourne Stars and Buttler played at 3 for Sydney Thunder. I reckon the Aus teams rate our SF players better than we do ourselves.Also while I dont disagree in trying Carberry he has looked lethargic when batting for England and I dont necessarily agree that he will score quicker than Bell and Cook. He hasn't at any point when playing for England except in a game against a domestic/club quality side.In fact Bell/Cook's SRs have not been as bad as guys like Ballance,Root,Bopara and Stokes in this series and I would say that Carberry in his current form/mindset would score less and at a lesser SR than the opening duo.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 23, 2014, 11:01 GMT)

@CodandChips - Re Wright. You have to take other things into consideration. Firstly you have to take into consideration that players can improve. Luke had the fastest 100 in BBL history until a week or 2 ago and is currently playing in a side that has won all their BBL games and he has been man of the match on at least 2 occasions. For England averaging 21 or whatever needs improvement but the SR of 88 compares favourably with ALL the regular ODI players. You must also take into consideration that England played him out of position (battingwise) in many games. There were games where he neither got a bat or ball. I cant imagine that does much for a player. No player has a t20 100 for Eng but Wright has got as close as anyone with 99 not out.Wright had a tremendous season in the pro 40 for Sussex. I am one of those people who believes decent form should be rewarded with International call ups esp when the team is failing.

Posted by Mohammed.Abdullah on (January 23, 2014, 11:01 GMT)

Best squad for England from my view Alastair Cook , Ian Bell, Craig kieswetter, Johnny bairstow, Eoin Morgan, Ravi Bopara, Jos Buttler (wk), Luke wright, Stuart Broad, Anderson, Kevin pietersen ,Chris Woakes ,Steven finn ,jade dernbach,Ben stokes. best 15 man squad to compete against any team.Do you all agree?

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 23, 2014, 10:47 GMT)

When one cannot get back to the standards needed to succeed... get rid of it (test matches) I now fear for ODI'S.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 23, 2014, 10:32 GMT)

Get Carberry in. Need to score runs at the top- and sort of quickly. Carberry didn't do this in the home series but has a better chance than Cook, Bell or Root.

1.Bell 2.Carberry 3.Ballance 4.Morgan (c) 5.Buttler 6.Woakes 7.Stokes 8.Bopara 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs.

Briggs deserves his chance, although Tredwell did bowl well last match, but was poor in the summer. Woakes has improved as a batsman fantastically this year, so I would not be too nervous about him at 6- he can hardly do worse than Bopara. Keep Bopara in as a bowler.

Important 2 matches for Ben Stokes to save his ODI career. Could be leapfrogged by Woakes/Willey. Bresnan should no longer be in the side, his bowling is innoccous, and his batting, while useful last match, is overrated.

Forgot to say Morgan as captain. Doesn't play tests so less of a burden- and no need to be rested and miss matches. Is good tactically (shown through his batting), earns respect and is a fighter.

Posted by disco_bob on (January 23, 2014, 10:31 GMT)

England could relegate us from No. 1, that's got to give them some bittersweet motivation. However I think everyone understands that England are going to get walloped 5 love, twice. All those 10-0 predictions are going to come true albeit not as originally envisaged.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 23, 2014, 10:23 GMT)

I don't have a huge issue with that line up but I do with the batting order. Depending on wickets lost the batting top 7 (with this side) should be Cook,Bell,Ballance,Morgan,Buttler,Bopara,Stokes.I would even consider a more positive approach and have Morgan at 3 and Buttler at 4 if they don't lose early wickets. I seem to recall a SF game for Yorks where Ballance came in at 6 or thereabouts and he looked superb so I wonder if we could try that. Stokes at 3 is a big no no for me. He struggled badly in his last game at 3 and basically just stagnated the run rate. I'd have been all in favour of keeping it going (even if he got out for single figures) had he played aggressively but he didn't. Folk who say Buttler is a finisher. Yes - he can do that job but how do we know he can't come in between overs 15 and 35 and do a job if he's not given a go? His best performances (vs Oz last year) have been when he had had to come in earlier due to early wkts

Posted by swauzzie on (January 23, 2014, 10:12 GMT)

@SLslider "They can not play abroad like India" Hmmmm I seem to remeber a n Indian team get whitewashed when they visited down under & then returned the favour when Oz visited them in India. What is your point here really. 'Cause you can't be claiming that India are a great touring team? They are 2-0 down in NZ. Lost easily in SA before they arrived in NZ. Please explain you rediculous statement??

Posted by hotcric01 on (January 23, 2014, 10:11 GMT)

@ Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest,that is very funny.India don't have a fast bowler even as good as Christian or Watson.Even Zimbabwe have better fast bowlers than India.Chatara and payangara for example. @SLslider,Sri Lanka haven't win an ODI series outside home at least for last 2 years.They recently lost to ordinary Pakistan side for 2-3.Even against NZ in home series was drawn as 1-1.When did they win an ODI series in india? Australia is the best ODI team at the moment,at least in these conditions. They fought well in india.They are an allround team can bat well as deep as No.10.They have energy, talents, power in all departments.Clearly deseve to be the No.01 in rankings and world champions next year.

Posted by aussie1993 on (January 23, 2014, 10:09 GMT)

no one can even not australia now dominate the cricket like west indies or australia of past hve done

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 10:08 GMT)

@SLslider my friend I don't think Angelo Matthews is can be ranked among 'gentlemen' after his negative attitude on the during the 3rd test against Pak

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (January 23, 2014, 10:06 GMT)

@Vivfan . still better than 180 million and all blinds not able to see talents in Kohli & Co.lol.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 10:05 GMT)

@Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest___I am sure that I am not reading your comment correctly!? Anything or rather anybody in the Indian " bowling " line-up better than Mitch, Harris, Siddle, Pattinson, Cummins. Bird ???? I unfortunately have to stop here!

Posted by trumpoz on (January 23, 2014, 9:59 GMT)

just wow. As soon as India lose the number 1 spot the supporters come out and blast the rankings. The best way to retain a ranking is for the team to win games of cricket! If your beloved Indian cricket team won they would still be number 1. It is the way the rankings go -deal with it. On the game coming up I honestly reckon England have a shot here. The best chance they will have for a win.

Posted by SLslider on (January 23, 2014, 9:53 GMT)

AUS are the most mediocre no. 1 team I have ever seen. They can not play abroad like India. AUS sledge and never play the game with spirit. They don't have gentlemen like Matthews, sanga and mahela who respect the game and play with right spirit.

Posted by dinosaurus on (January 23, 2014, 9:51 GMT)

I will just remind these people rubbishing Australia that Australia have won four 50 over World Cups; three in succession, two without losing a single match. Their last previous stint at #1 in ODIs ended a little over a year ago after 35 months at the top. In tests they have won one and three quarters as often as they have lost. They have won more matches "away" than any other team. The one place they do have trouble winning is in India, but that does nowhere near justify some of the rubbish posted here. Why don't you just say "I can's stand Australians ?" (this most likely despite you've never met one), but that would make more sense than talking about the world's most successful team in that way.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (January 23, 2014, 9:45 GMT)

In a dead series, with England not looking bothered about rankings etc. - I'd rather they use these remaining two games to concentrate on getting a few guys into some sort of form, and experimenting a bit with their batting line-up and strategies. Happy for Cook to remain and try and get some form/confidence built up; Bell has done well and hopefully can convert starts; I might be tempted to move Morgan up to three, unless an opener falls early. The rest of the guys are all capable of delivering and just need to find some form. Buttler can come in earlier if the game permits. The bowlers are lacking a leader and tend to be used randomly rather than smartly. I think spinners/slower bowlers like Bopara can be key in short formats but they must be used at sensible times. Mistakes are often brought about by good containment, and England thus far have failed to contain anything. Maybe Briggs should play instead of Bresnan...

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 9:41 GMT)

I am glad. Now India have greater motivation to get back to where tjey belong. Lets accept the fact that our bowlers are not international quality, lack the pace and skills to be effective on even bowler friendly tracks. This is not going to change overnight or even in the near future. The bowlers have to keep improving just like our fielding has improved in the past decade. Also winning more often and important tournaments like the World Cup and Champions Trophy has instilled belief. The criticism from all quarters, especially foreign cricket fans only shows that India is considered a top side. Also recent defeats will lead to the bench being tested and thats a good thing.

Posted by Vivfan on (January 23, 2014, 9:38 GMT)

1.3 Billion and 0 talent. What a pathetic team.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 23, 2014, 9:37 GMT)

@ all Indian and Sri Lankan supporters. If you have nothing constructive to say, and are just here to start an argument, stay away from this page. Leave us England and Australian fans to continue our favourite and historic rivalry, no matter how one sided it has become.

Posted by whofriggincares on (January 23, 2014, 9:28 GMT)

SLslinga, funny that you turned up about the time @FFL disappeared . I would recognize that writing style anywhere. @RedNwhiteArmy, funny you should mention a whitewash that occurred 18 months ago , surely we could think of one more recent than that? Oh that's right it was in a test series wasn't it? And there is a high chance we will see another one in ODI's pretty soon, we may be resting our top players but our second string side will probably be good enough to beat that rabble who have forgotten how to compete let alone win.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 23, 2014, 9:27 GMT)

Is it a full moon tonight or did something good happen for Australia.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (January 23, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

Australia lucky to get no:1 ranking even if they got thrashed in 'away' matches. But that will be short stay, I guess. BTW, SL is the best team in the world but from last.ha ha.

Posted by Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest on (January 23, 2014, 9:11 GMT)

India has a much better bowling attack than Aus..... Don't know why Aus are ahead in the rankings..... The rankings are a joke, ind no 1 always.....

Posted by swauzzie on (January 23, 2014, 8:59 GMT)

@Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest "Ind has the best bowling lineup" Are you for real? It's their bowling lineup that's been causing them to lose all these matches &, rightly so, reliquish the No 1 spot to Oz! Aus, SA, even maybe SL & Pak have better bowling lineups than India! Indias batting is world class. They have an excellent captain too. This is what has kept them in the top spot for so long. Their bowling is rubbish to put it bluntly. Just because you have half the team that can throw down a few overs of off spin doesn't make them a good bowling team! Looks like someone has had a word to Dhawan about his arrogant batting style. i.e. not respecting good balls & closing his eyes & just swinging the bat etc. Anyway it looks like he's been found out. It has taken him down a notch or 2. Poor fella can't buy a run these days!

Posted by SHK1 on (January 23, 2014, 8:53 GMT)

@Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest: Reading you comment, at first I thought you are a crazy Indian fan but how you ended the comment (Ind has the best bowling lineup) gave it away that you are kidding :-)

Posted by SLslider on (January 23, 2014, 8:49 GMT)

@ SLslinga I completely agree with you on that one. LOL. They should learn from SL. They don't have a 10% of batting talent that SL has. SL is the best team in the world when it comes to playing outside their home. AUS is mediocre at best and get thrashed regularly outside. LOL.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (January 23, 2014, 8:47 GMT)

@ SLslinga A team full of negative cricketers who can not even win a single test series outside home (forget ASIA) since 2000. LOL. But what can we expect from a team whose legend will not even get a place in ZIM team. LOL. There is this player who plays as a specialist spectator. Here is Mahela's test averages in SA-27.87, NZ-27.71, aus-31.42, England-34.11, Bangladesh-38.12, UAE-13.37.

True colombo track bully.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (January 23, 2014, 8:38 GMT)

@Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest ; Everything you said is real. So is Easter bunny.. lol

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

@ SLslinga.....What are you trying to say? Your comments make no sense at all.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 23, 2014, 8:21 GMT)

Wondering how Steve Finn is a possible selection? Hasn't he gone home???

No wonder Aus players don't have fatigue when the change their side so much. They have benefitted in the rankings system from playing us twice. But in their defence, they were number 2 during the champions trophy.

A lot of people want Luke Wright in. I don't. He's played 48 ODIs at an average of 21 (and only strike rate of 88) and 42 T20Is at an average of 20 (but with a better strike rate of 140). In his 94 England matches combined he has only 6 50s- that's 1 every 15 matches. He is a good player a domestic level but is poor at international level. He bowls useful overs, but so does Bopara. You might as well go with Bopara opening (after all, he did used to do that, and I think he has a list a double hundred from there?). I don't want Bopara in the side after this series, but certainl don't want Luke Wright.

Posted by Bdthetiger on (January 23, 2014, 8:15 GMT)

Australia r just hopeless cricket nation outside aus.they only rely on some sloging at the top to win some matches.there toothless batting will b just destroy in sa and wt20.i just hope they their fans together after that disaster.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 23, 2014, 8:11 GMT)

Get Carberry in. Need to score runs at the top- and sort of quickly. Carberry didn't do this in the home series but has a better chance than Cook, Bell or Root.

1.Bell 2.Carberry 3.Ballance 4.Morgan 5.Buttler 6.Woakes 7.Stokes 8.Bopara 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs.

Briggs deserves his chance, although Tredwell did bowl well last match, but was poor in the summer. Woakes has improved as a batsman fantastically this year, so I would not be too nervous about him at 6- he can hardly do worse than Bopara. Keep Bopara in as a bowler.

Important 2 matches for Ben Stokes to save his ODI career. Could be leapfrogged by Woakes/Willey. Bresnan should no longer be in the side, his bowling is innoccous, and his batting, while useful last match, is overrated.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (January 23, 2014, 8:10 GMT)

Not 18 months ago England whitewashed (in ODI) the current number 1 side. True or False?

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 23, 2014, 8:08 GMT)

Yeah the remaining games against the Poms have lost some lustre. After all, it has been proven that we are significantly better than them and that is all we need to know.After this tour to Australia the English have a large amount of fallout to sift through in an attempt to rebuild and I expect that they are beavering away on that right now

Posted by Statchin.Tendulkar.the.Greatest on (January 23, 2014, 8:07 GMT)

India deserve No. 1 ranking not Aus, Ind will win next 3 matches and reclaim No.1.... Just wait and see, Ind are the best team in the world.... Ind has the best bowling lineup.......

Posted by soumyas on (January 23, 2014, 8:07 GMT)

@Samdanh, Try to understand the scenario, here, NZ who are rivals to Australians are helping australians to reach No.1. So I'm asking how often you see rivals helping you to reach to No. 1 spot ?

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 23, 2014, 8:04 GMT)

@Catcha ....no... you are wrong, Australia became number 1.... because they won plenty of games and India have lost plenty of games.

Posted by GRHinPorts on (January 23, 2014, 7:55 GMT)

The Aus batting lineup looks a bit light for this match. Everyone from Bailey down looks to be batting one position too high. This could be dangerous at the WACA with the extra help for the fast bowlers. The question will be how will Eng's batting cope with those said conditions but a decent score here might see the tourists break their international duck.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (January 23, 2014, 7:50 GMT)

It's hard to imagine that Steve Finn would come in, as the article states, when he is now back in the UK as "unselectable"!

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 23, 2014, 7:42 GMT)

@ SLslider on (January 23, 2014, 7:26 GMT) good idea PNG in SLslider out, Uganda in SLslider out. now that would improve the world cricket.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 7:41 GMT)

As is human behavior, Australia become world champs for trouncing a demotivated English team i. Australia also have their own back yard as an advantage with 40 deg temperatures. One swallow does not make a summer.

South Africa are going to give the Oz a lesson in cricket and the talking will be done with the bat an ball. The Oz also like the English spend a lot of time shooting their mouth off and playing the game in the press. Hence a little humility can only be a good thing for the Australians. Of course, the Australians would first have to look up the meaning of this word "HUMILITY".

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 7:37 GMT)

Didn't Finn go home to work his action and everything else out? How can he be a possible selection here?

Posted by iceaxe on (January 23, 2014, 7:37 GMT)

I'm expecting another flogging by Australia.

England look great at home, but for this tour, they just look tired. The 5 tests were far too long.

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (January 23, 2014, 7:36 GMT)

@Humdingers, India may keep its trophies and cups but the world never accepts India as champs . Even if SA loses every match it plays they are better than India. Aussies same. They work hard. They perform wholeheartedly. Everyone loves Dale Steyn and Mitchell Johnson. If you talk to Steyn about stuff like world's best bowler he gets annoyed. All he wants is train hard off pitch and perform 100% on the pitch. They are the models. Not just in cricket but in real life too.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 23, 2014, 7:30 GMT)

This ranking system is a joke, India keep losing but are still ranked second ?

Posted by Surajrises on (January 23, 2014, 7:29 GMT)

I really hope England have some self-respect and win at least the next 2 matches and take that temporary No 1 position from Australia. They really now need to play for the pride.. They need to take some momentum back from Australia to England for the next Ashes series or Australia will definitely win the next Ashes in England...

Posted by pitch_curator on (January 23, 2014, 7:27 GMT)

Forget about the rankings. The fact of the matter is that India needs to improve its performances abroad in ODIs and find a couple of bankable fast bowlers. Australia in their conditions have all their bases covered as the conditions do not need any spin bowlers and offer bounce which helps their batsmen's style of play. They will go into the WC2015 as favorites. SAF, Pak, IND, NA and SL are all more or less equal in Aus conditions.

Posted by SLslider on (January 23, 2014, 7:26 GMT)

It is great to watch this associate level play.it is irony that AUS is bloking other teams like uganda or png to enter to the top 10 in place of AUS.i think uganda has more talented bowlers or batsmen than AUS.i hope they get a chance. AUS is hopeless outside their home.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 7:05 GMT)

Every body are saying india won champ trophy in overseas soil.realy?l ...after the 2012 season finished in england they started relaying the outfield and pitches which absorbs whatever moisture that remains so that they present a dry turner for australia during the ashes .this 2013 eng grounds were no different from subcontinent grounds unless there is cloud cover .IND' S CAMPAIGN . 1 .vs SA flat pitch SA without STEYN ,SMITH ,KALLIS .MORKEL INJURED AFTER 5 OVS. 2.vs WI a formality 3.vsPAK was a dead rubber .pak werent motivated to play that game 4.vs SRI overcast conditions .TOSS decided the match the same way as SA VS ENG 5vs ENG was a square turner prepared for ASHES.& it was a 20 ov match. I dont TAKe ANY CREDIT AWAY FROM IND .BUT THESE CONDITIONS WERENT ALIEN AS EVERYONE SAY & SA were without 4 of 5 TOP players and DONT forget OZ'S WERE WITHOUT CLARKE. &cos there nz matc hwas affected by rain they were had to chase 250 runs in 28 ovs vs sri in a slow pitch, which was impsbl

Posted by Samdanh on (January 23, 2014, 6:57 GMT)

@soumyas: It is the same when India or anyother team has moved to no.1-wins of own and losses of others. Either this ranking system is the best or it has to be changed.

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 23, 2014, 6:56 GMT)

@Humdingers , but india has a powerful board that can bully others to submission and get what they want, whatever...

Posted by soumyas on (January 23, 2014, 6:45 GMT)

Australia reached No.1 not just due to their wins, but also due to NewZealand's wins. How often you see rivals helping you to reach No.1 spot? this is Nature's Irony.

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 23, 2014, 6:45 GMT)

@ stumpedlloyd : I'm glad you said that because when I saw his name as a possible I just shook my head and thought I must have missed his return to the fray.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (January 23, 2014, 6:37 GMT)

These rankings are surely a joke(not because India lost). There is no need of mentioning these rankings in the title . I think only SC fans care much about the rankings.Look at the team balance (i am talking about ODIs). SA has been a well balanced team for quite some time but they will not be favorites for WC15 for reasons well known. Aus has some extreme players down the order (Maxwell/Faulkner) In shorter format no body cares about slog fest. The fact is they are handy with ball. They have good top order in Finch/Warner . Then look at NZ they are quite dangerous in shorter formats . They too have some exciting lower order batsmen. Now compare that to India what do we have. Mostly some bits and pieces players down the order (jadeja/ashwin) who are not required in Aus/NZ.

Posted by rajcl on (January 23, 2014, 6:34 GMT)

lets see ending of 2 serious aus vs eng & ind vs nz who is better they r no1 & 1Q faulkner is good or indian bowlers is bad oooooorrrrrrrrr faulkner is good or england bowlers is bad & what about nz & aus pitches almost scoring 300 runs per inngs what about that & low confidence eng also scoring 300 runs what about that ??????

Posted by soumyas on (January 23, 2014, 6:33 GMT)

@InfiniteWhite, Shaun Marsh is not a slogger, i didn't know Clark is not playing this ODI...

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 6:32 GMT)

Australia #1 ODI team in world. It's back to normal.

This should be the Australian ODI 11 for World Cup :

Warner Marsh Clarke Bailey Steve smith Maxwell Haddin Faulkner Johnson Pattinson Clint McKay

Posted by soumyas on (January 23, 2014, 6:30 GMT)

@InfiniteWhite, Michael Clark a slogger ? get well soon buddy...

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 23, 2014, 6:27 GMT)

@MaruthuDelft, that is a fantastic assessment. Captures exactly what the respective teams are upto. Well said Sir.

Posted by Samdanh on (January 23, 2014, 6:21 GMT)

@Hrishikesh Bhagwat: If you are comparing ODI performances, Aus won against Pak in Gulf, against SL in SL, and lost just 2-3 in India, won 3-2 in England-so you are perhaps not following cricket as a cricket fan. India lost ODI series 0-4 in England, 0-2 in SA, did not get to final of last ODI trinagular in Aus, now trailing 0-2 in the 5 match series in NZ. I can understand your pain though. @Harji Harry Singht: Aus may not worry if they lose in Perth and with it the ODI no.1 ranking, temporarily. They have won the series, which matters

Posted by Humdingers on (January 23, 2014, 6:16 GMT)

@MaruthuDelft - Champion teams turn up and play at finals and win. SA will never be a GREAT team until they stop choking and start winning some silverware - until then they are GOOD but not Great. Aus are on the rebuild and the test will be how they do in SA and UAE (where spin will again be tested). Eng need to do some soul searching again. Pak/SL/NZ - have the talent, just need to be more consistent. India - despite having "no bowlers", "flat track batsmen" and haters like you, still manage to win silverware. Whatever the rankings say, the results speak for themselves (we're talking ODI's here and not tests or T-20's by the way). So give credit where it is due mate.

Posted by stumpedlloyd on (January 23, 2014, 6:15 GMT)

It would be some feat, indeed, if Steven Finn plays in this match, as the article posits, considering he is back home in England.

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 23, 2014, 6:10 GMT)

@ Harjit Harry Singh: It's a bit harsh to accuse Aus. of complacency considering these changes were on the table well before India slipped and fell on their backsides in NZ. .. It's all in the name of player welfare to give these guys a rest as they've done superbly well this summer and the series is already in the bag. If they need a rest, now is the time to do it.

As for England, they came here expecting to set all kinds of records so I think it's well within their grasp to lose one more and equal the long-standing record for most consecutive losses by an England team. C'mon boys, you can do it if you play badly enough!!

Posted by drinks.break on (January 23, 2014, 6:09 GMT)

@vivekmalik1985, it's the 10th straight, because Australia won the final ODI in England on Sep 16, 2013.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 6:05 GMT)

Beating an England side in such a poor state of psychological health is not as great a feet as people seem to think. They are good, but not great, and their team is considerably older than England's, which must teach us something. It would be great to see Finn come in and take some wickets, but then Tredwell should probably play. Difficult to se where the next spinner will come from - Rashid was a great hope once.....

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 5:52 GMT)

Didn't Finn go home? Soaked will have to play if they don't play tredwell.

Posted by vivekmalik1985 on (January 23, 2014, 5:51 GMT)

How come 10 straight loss? 9th i guess

Posted by D-Ascendant on (January 23, 2014, 5:45 GMT)

With the World T20 coming up in Bangladesh, would've been a great opportunity to road-test a specialist spinner. I think Australia missed a trick here.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 5:38 GMT)

now nobody will talk about winning at home which Australia is doing for the past 2 months. but only when India win at home they have a problem. And they will say India is only lion at home and tops the ranking only by winning at home. 6 months back we won the champions trophy in England and beat England in the finals. if winning at home us not winning then stop watching cricket or follow it when its played outside if the earth.

Posted by santhoshg016 on (January 23, 2014, 5:35 GMT)

Australia still it looks a good team without Clarke, watson, Haddin, and warner.. Shaun marsh and Maxwell is in a good form.. i hope they will white wash England in the one day series.. it going to be tough for INDIA re regain number 1 spot again.. If australia win the series 5-0. then India will remain in 2nd spot. over all good teams and good competition ahead..

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 23, 2014, 5:32 GMT)

@Harjit Harry singh. It's not complacency at all. Why on earth would you risk injuring players in a dead rubber ODI series ahead of a test series against SA for the real number 1 ranking. Top spot in ODI's is nice but the top spot in Tests is where the real prize is and that is what we should be and are focusing on.

Posted by drinks.break on (January 23, 2014, 5:30 GMT)

That Aus team sheet still looks pretty imposing! They'd have to get down to their 4th string team before you'd begin to think England's in the same league.

And as far as the Eng team goes, just let all THREE of Tredwell, Woakes and Finn play, and see if they can win with 13 on the field ... I'd still tip Australia!

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (January 23, 2014, 5:19 GMT)

If you say 'They are the number one side' then it has to be either Aus or SA. Eng and Pak cannot retain enthusiasm for too long even if they climb up to summit. India will never be proper champions; they sneak through to win when others don't take notice. Sri Lanka somehow always look an unattractive side. NZ never had the belief of champions. Windies play for time passing! Bangladesh is a joke. Zim unfortunately don't have stability at home.

Posted by InfiniteWhite on (January 23, 2014, 5:15 GMT)

11 sloggers in the Australian team. Unless there is a batting collapse, this will be a slogfest.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 5:13 GMT)

This is surely going to be Australias shortest stay at the top of the world ranking. They have rested their best players, which is not understandable if u aim to be No.1 side in the world. you have to play every match to the best of ur ability. Australia is not the permanent No.1 side yet and they are already complacent. They are going to pay for it in the 4th one day international.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 5:00 GMT)

As Watson and Clarke have done no wonders yet in this ODIS series and Wade will easily fill the Haddin gap, so the only player who would be missed is WARNER. Australia, despite of resting their big 4 are still looking in a better shape and BAILEY is one of the good brains working in cricket fields these days so Aussies have all the chances to clinch another 5-0. The other factor which will add up to the australian cause is their NUMBER1 rank now. They know that it took nearly 1.5 years to regain it back and now, THEY WON'T leave it that easily.

England, well they are a good side under immense pressure now so their chances are still quite bleak to bounce back in at least this series.

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