Australia v England, 3rd T20, Sydney

Australia demolish England one last time

The Report by Brydon Coverdale

February 2, 2014

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Ehantharajah: Dernbach's over turned the game on its head'

Australia 6 for 195 (Bailey 49*, Broad 3-30) beat England 111 (Morgan 34, Muirhead 2-13) by 84 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

There was talk that England had chartered a plane to fly them out of Sydney immediately after this match. Who could blame them? Beaten, bullied and broken by the Australians in the Tests and ODIs, England finished their tour with another heavy loss, this time by 84 runs, in the final T20. It meant another clean sweep for Australia. It meant across all formats, Australia had crushed England 12-1 this summer. The 1 was an ODI in which Australia rested several key players.

That England were bowled out for 111 - English cricket's unlucky number - seemed somehow appropriate. Anything that could go wrong for England on this trip has, although that has as much been due to Australia's outstanding cricket as English misfortune. In this final game, the difference between the sides was evident from the way Australia finished their innings, when the captain George Bailey plundered 26 runs off the last over from Jade Dernbach.

It pushed the target into seriously difficult territory, although with the exception of Eoin Morgan, England's batsmen looked incapable of chasing down 150, let alone 196. Michael Lumb had been dropped, which meant a new opening combination of Luke Wright and Alex Hales but neither man reached double figures. Wright pulled a catch to deep square leg off Mitchell Starc for 8 and Hales was also caught in the deep off Nathan Coulter-Nile for 6.

England's 2 for 19 became 3 for 25 when Ben Stokes, in for his first match of the series, was caught for 5 off a leading edge from the offspin of Glenn Maxwell. Joe Root did not have the time he required to get himself in, and consequently ate up 21 balls scratching along to 11 before he holed out to deep midwicket to give Maxwell his second wicket and Cutting his second catch.


George Bailey thrashed 26 off the final over to finish on 49, Australia v England, 2nd T20, Sydney, February, 2, 2014
George Bailey was Man of the Match for his quick 49 © Getty Images
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By then, the required run rate had inflated so much that the result was inevitable. Morgan struck a couple of sixes but was caught in the deep for 34 off 20, and the final overs were notable not for anything England did but for the young legspinner James Muirhead continuing to impress the Australian selectors, picking up two wickets by drawing Tim Bresnan out of his crease for a stumping and bowling Stuart Broad with a big legbreak.

All England could do was avoid their biggest ever T20 loss. The 90-run defeat against India in Colombo in 2012 remains their worst, but this occupies equal second on their all-time list. It was Bailey who really sunk them with his unbeaten 49 off 20 deliveries towards the end of Australia's innings.

Dernbach finished with 0 for 49 from his four overs when his last was wrecked by Bailey. All six balls seemed in the slot for Bailey, who struck three fours and two sixes, including a long and high one over long-on, before the last ball produced a slash to third man for two, and England couldn't even finish with a run-out as Jos Buttler missed trying to flick the bails off.

Bailey had good support from Matthew Wade, who finished on 19 from 10 balls, in a 56-run partnership that came after Broad threatened to peg the Australians back with two wickets in the 16th over. Broad, who finished with 3 for 30, had the veteran Brad Hodge caught at deep fine leg hooking for 7 and two balls later bowled Daniel Christian for a duck to leave Australia at 6 for 139 with four overs to go.

Again Australia's opening partnership of Cameron White and Aaron Finch set a strong platform with a 48-run stand - they started the series with a 106-run partnership in Hobart and followed it with 48 in Melbourne - and Finch was the more threatening of the two, crunching Stokes for a pair of sixes in his first over. But, on 30 from 21 balls, Finch mistimed a pull and lobbed a catch up to midwicket off Bresnan.

Maxwell cleared the boundary twice, including a searing flat six over long-off, before he was caught at long-on from the bowling of Broad for 14. Australia promoted Cutting as a pinch hitter and the ploy worked reasonably well as Cutting showed his power with three sixes in his 29 off 16 balls before he was sharply caught by Root off his own bowling.

White struggled for fluency but steered the innings nicely with 41 off 37 balls before he was given out caught down leg side off the debutant Chris Jordan, a decision that White seemed unhappy with but which brought Hodge to the crease for his long-awaited first international innings in nearly six years. Hodge managed a one, a two and an inside-edged four before picking out fine leg with his hook.

Miked up by Channel Nine in the field later, Hodge said he was just happy to be part of what had been such a remarkable summer for the Australians. England's players are just as happy that it is now all over.

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Posted by LALITHKURUWITA on (February 5, 2014, 20:50 GMT)

It is worst thing to watch Eng batting.

Posted by JG2704 on (February 4, 2014, 21:26 GMT)

@ CodandChips on (February 4, 2014, 15:09 GMT) You're right - You did have Stokes in your latest T20 side. If it was your 11 being picked Ali would definitely be ahead of Stokes in my batting order Re KP (too late I know) but I agree with you. Could England not have risked him playing T20s/ODIs and rested him from some of the tests.

Posted by CodandChips on (February 4, 2014, 15:09 GMT)

@JG2704 I thought Stokes was in my line-up. I can understand having doubts about him as he does appear a bits-and-pieces player, but don't forget so was Flintoff. I do think Stokes' performances have been inflated by the abysmal ones of those around him, but in terms of T20, he is a bowling option who is confident to bowl at the death and can score quickly when batting.

On KP I agree with what you're saying.Personally I'd keep him just for white ball cricket, wit ha WT20 and WC approaching. In terms of the test side I would rather see the likes of Taylor, Ali, Ballance, Stokes, Woakes get chances, as I think we need to rebuild in time for the next ashes. I have always felt that KP's best format is tests, but his best purpose imo would be helping the limited overs teams. If he were to become a batting coach/mentor in the future, I certainly would not be dissappointed at all.

Posted by JG2704 on (February 4, 2014, 9:34 GMT)

@CodandChips - Re Ali - I'm not sure why I put that. I think I meant to put Stokes who isn't in your line up anyway. Ali could be a good shout.

Re KP - He has played one T20 for England since Feb 2012. It's a shame but I'm not sure we'll see him in Eng colours (as in red) again. In the past I think England have considered all test series as more important than any T20/OD (even world cups). I think this is a fair part of why they are planning this meeting ie to decide if

A - He could play both the T20WC and the test series'?

B - Is it a worthwhile risk playing him in the T20WC if it jeopardises his involvement in a test series?

C - Might they be discussing whether KP is more of an asset to the T20 side and therefore considering sacrificing a few tests/series for the T20 WC?

Posted by CodandChips on (February 3, 2014, 18:38 GMT)

@naren1983 nothing personal, but your suggestion of making Bopara captain is perhaps the worst I have seen on these pages. Granted he is a senior player with plenty of his experience. But so much for being "talented"- he averages 30 in approx 100 matches. As far as "calm" is concerned, he almost never finishes off chases for England.

@JG2704 wondering why you don't think KP "will play much/any T20 again for England"?. On Ali, perhaps some of us (including myself) are getting carried away with him, but if his bowling has improved, he'd be a useful spin option who could score runs if needed- like Mike Yardy. Hopefully between him, KP and Briggs, we'd be able to get some overs of spin.

Posted by Naikan on (February 3, 2014, 18:05 GMT)

While Captains may claim to go on from what they see in the field, It is sometimes difficult to believe that - that is truly the case for Captains like Broad or Dhoni. All indications seem to suggest that personal prejudices seem to play a much larger role than cold and logical decision making. While one off cases can be attributed to instinct - it is no longer Instinct if one persists with it all the time. Else how would one explain that Broad turns to Dernbach all the time again and again - even when he keeps getting hammered match after match. Then again Bopara who bowled a few tight overs in the midst of all that hammering, keeps getting relegated and does not even get a single over in this match. Shades of Dhoni and Ishant in there

Posted by runout49 on (February 3, 2014, 17:58 GMT)

Captain Cook's crew of 1770 would have done a better job that this lot.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 17:20 GMT)

Wow what a clobbering! I was struck by the difference in the bowling between the two sides. The English stuff was straight up-and-down dross. The Aussies hardly bowled a straight ball. When you are trying to launch it big-time its a whole lot easier to find the sweet spot when the ball does nt change in flight. But if you cant swing or spin the thing at least bowl a fair percentage of yorkers and wide-full deliveries. The English guys could nt even do that.

Posted by Naikan on (February 3, 2014, 15:24 GMT)

Bhavesh, your swipe with regards to their captaincy, at Sachin and Rahul is unwelcome. While I cannot say much to negate it for Sachin, Rahul Dravid remains the only Indian Captain to win Test series (not one but 2) outside of Indian subcontinent in the last 3-4 decades. One cannot question his captaincy or his acumen for it, based on other issues that plagued his period of captaincy. Had Greg Chappell's overwhelming personality not been instituted by the BCCI, we would probably have seen a longer term of Dravid's Captaincy and filled with greater success. If you wish to draw parallels, then do so between the approach by Flower and Chappell. This one can discern by reading another article in here that analyses Flower's approach

Posted by AltafPatel on (February 3, 2014, 14:10 GMT)

Don't remember Dernbach have conceded less than 40 in T20. Hats-off selectors.

Posted by naren1983 on (February 3, 2014, 12:23 GMT)

I believe T20 captaincy should go to Bopara. He is calm and talented player who can workout and make a good team. England should create balanced team with young & experienced players. Root is not a T20 player and will definetely can't help to win the T20 matches. The first 3 batsmen lack talent, can't simply go for the shots after bowlers, have to give respect to bowlers and go for shots. Big change is expected in England after the disastrous series overall.

Posted by JG2704 on (February 3, 2014, 10:33 GMT)

@CodandChips- I'm trying to plan for a T20 line up without KP as I dont believe KP will play much/any T20 again for England. Wright is still a bowling option so that's similar to your side only Ali is probably a better option. Also I'm not totally sure about Ali. I'm certainly not against giving Vince a chance but I'm not sure he'll do better than Lumb or Wright. Wright had a poor series but I still have belief. My personal opinion was that (barring KP) that batting line up was about as good as it gets

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 9:02 GMT)

England will be back. And revenge will be fun.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 8:57 GMT)

Im still looking for a time machine so i can go back to October 2013 to put my life savings on a 12-1 win-loss record to Australia over the summer. I would be a millionaire many times over. Maybe i should roll the dice and put big money on NZ white washing India in their test series.

Posted by vipinchirackal on (February 3, 2014, 8:36 GMT)

as an indian fan the growth of bailey and wade as destructive batsmen are really terrifying.since aussis have come out from the gray phase you can expect another era of monotony.if their bowlers also perform well nobody can contradict to this argument.i admit south africa is there to stand against them.but without steyn who has been always suffering with injuries it wont be an easy task for them.expecting another world cup triupmh of astralia with trembling mind

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 8:23 GMT)

All credit to the Aussie and especially Michael Clarke.

I think his attitude and approach rubbed off on the entire team - in fact, all of the teams, in every format.

Hopefully, It'll give the entire England setup a kick up the backside and force some changes. Having said that, their stubbornness was one of the reasons the failed so badly on this tour - so they need to address this first!

Posted by PrasPunter on (February 3, 2014, 7:55 GMT)

@Johno_johns, to add, Aus won both test/ODI series away against SL - a huge one this - Eng managed only a draw recently. Also won the ODI series 2-1 against Pak away. With the WI, it is 2-2 (ODIs) and 2-0 (tests) away. It's the test-record against india and Eng away that is poor off-late. Not bad for a team branded widely as average by a few delusional fans.

Posted by wickdwitch on (February 3, 2014, 7:40 GMT)

Thank you! Thank you VivGilchrist and @Ian Milne - other right minded people who believes Wade's keeping cost Nathan Lyon wickets .. and ultimately his place in Aussie test side .. but with Haddin behind the stumps he is doing much better. Pup was/is a staunch Lyon supporter. Wade is fine standing back to the quicks but when I see him move close to the stumps I cringe. The Poms 'went home' quite a few weeks ago and these matches seemed to be 'obligation only'. AUS got beaten in the UK during the English summer but at least showed fight until the end of all international games. I don't mind losing if we (AUS) at least fight while doing it!

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (February 3, 2014, 7:39 GMT)

Australia well on their way to world supremacy and are a lock to claim back their WC in a years time at home and in NZ. Before that a whipping of the S Africans - the most fave. touring place for them . And no wonder too with the best pace battery in the world and the scariest and fastest of them all-Mitch-all theirs .Also with the most talented younq players in the short forms supported by superb new pace bowlers in their ranks ,the time to get hands on their 1st t20 WC is here. Here come the Ausies to Bangla land ! Am sure the hosts will put up a good show with the event! Before any 1 gets me wrong . Am in no way comparing this Aus side to the great 1 of the past and also not that they are going to match them. This team has it to be the best in all forms -atleast compete with other top 2-3 teams on even keel- but however good they may be will always be a shadow of their glorious past. And who can blame them after all ?!-:)

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (February 3, 2014, 6:57 GMT)

Just a few months back a certain team were to be w/w by 10-0! How eerily similar-close- that 'prediction' came . And how right he was! Take a bow sir! Just 1 reason why this glorious game is called the game of uncertainties . Also sometimes referred to as 'funny'. As does it make some predictions just that -funny!! -:)

Posted by dunger.bob on (February 3, 2014, 6:39 GMT)

@ Biggus: Great words mate and I agree wholeheartedly with just about every one of them.

I think the Poms just need to keep the faith. Dudes like @ Paul Rhone-Clarke have posted some really heart felt stuff but just a few months ago that was us. It's all turned around in a heartbeat for us so there's no reason they can't do something similar. All it takes is one or two players to really start performing again and that will start to rub off on the rest of them. Success breeds confidence which breeds success. That's what's happened to us.

Posted by Cricluv97 on (February 3, 2014, 6:39 GMT)

Although i am not a english supporter...but have sympathy with them,,atlest they deserve this..

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 6:29 GMT)

@Biggus. That could be the Aussies as well. All recriminations and self doubt away from home, all "look at us, and how many great players are coming through" in their own back garden. How long sine Aussies won a series away from home? What odds on changing that in South Africa? Most sides now rock in their own conditions and fail away. England, Aussies, India, Pakistan. Only SA have bucked the trend regularly in recent years.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (February 3, 2014, 6:24 GMT)

The word annihilation wouldn't do justice to what the United XI were put through in this series. With all those facilities and poaching in place, United XI managed just one win, that too only after Australia rested their main players. Congratulations to Australia.

Posted by Johnno_Johns on (February 3, 2014, 6:06 GMT)

Gee jetdragon, 3rd ranked test nation, 1st ranked ODI nation, admittedly rubbish T20 nation. Drew tests with SA last time we played there, won one-dayers and T20s in England, lost one-dayers 3-2 in India. Hardly the world's worst away record at the minute.

Posted by mamboman on (February 3, 2014, 5:30 GMT)

Triumphalism is a little overdue. This was a gormless and disjointed performance from England who were surprised by the fact they overestimated their own margin of victory in the previous series. However - there are still serious flaws in Australia's make up - especially the batting - and I expect they will be found out and exploited by a very very good South African team. England are down but not out. They need to address the captaincy immediately but they have a deep core of good players and should be back on top soon.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 5:23 GMT)

If anyone says that the Poms problems rest with their batting or bowling, then the person is quite wrong. The easier thing to say is the guys are not performing. But the sad truth lies elsewhere. It has got lot to do with the ECB, Media and of course the team feeling. Media has been pouring fuel in the whole of 2013, making mountains out of molehills solely for their narrow parochial interests. Journalists have gone out to create hype on little things. The ECB top brass too have fueled this fire that has been burning the English players over 2013. Now the results are there to see. The coach has shown that he is a misfit as far as the team goes. The coach has failed to create unity among the players and they have been therefore sitting ducks for Aussies players. The lack of inner strength was clearly visible in the team on field, from the tactical decisions that were made while playing. What England now needs is not a coach but a motivator who can gel the team again, work on SWOT.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (February 3, 2014, 4:42 GMT)

Thank god that's all over. I was at the Brisbane Test for day 3, I was at all days of the Sydney Test (the highlight of my summer was getting a refund for the unneeded day 4) and I was at the last T20. England were outplayed in all departments, no doubt about it. What few chances they had they failed to take. There is so much work to be done that it's hard to know where to start. It won't be done quickly.

Posted by jetdragon on (February 3, 2014, 4:33 GMT)

"they will beat some teams and their fans will think they are world no.1 again"

Sounds an awful lot like Team Australia supporters at the moment Biggus - not got the greatest record on the road themselves right now have they?? Let's see how they go in SA.

Posted by Biggus on (February 3, 2014, 4:26 GMT)

Well that's it I guess, series over and mission accomplished. I don't feel as good as I ought really, by now it's become a little too predictable. It shouldn't be the case, England should have made us sweat this summer but their performance has been, as we all know, somewhat underwhelming. They don't seem to have been right ever since they stepped off the plane. I almost resent England for making us feel like we've just mugged an old lady and taken her pension cheque but that's life, you can only beat the side they put up against you. I'm quite fond of the Poms but they do perplex me with their defensive mindset and their tendency to lapse into exaggerated self-loathing when they lose. It's only a game after all, just pick your best eleven and a coach that can keep everyone happy and have a go. Take a few risks, you know it can be very exhilarating. Is not the motto of the SAS, "Who dares wins?" Commiserations to the English fans, tough series for you guys. Maybe next time.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 4:23 GMT)

Whitewash + Whitewash + Whitewash = A complete whitewash.

Posted by PrasPunter on (February 3, 2014, 4:18 GMT)

Got to see whether Eng can bounce back against the strong line-ups of SL and india later this year, though at home. Love 12-1 anyway !!! Go Aus !!

Posted by that_guy on (February 2, 2014, 23:44 GMT)

Dernbach is a wicket taker NOT a death bowler... what the hell was he doing bowling the last over. Absolute insanity by the captain

Posted by jetdragon on (February 2, 2014, 23:34 GMT)

Thank God it's all over ... at least they get to hide back in England, we Aussie resident Poms will be getting a hard time on the back of this for a while yet.

Can't recall a more abject tour by a team which 'looked good on paper'. well done to the Aussies though for taking full advantage

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 23:21 GMT)

South Africa is the best team in the world. India and England are numbers 5 and 6 respectively and Oz is number 2.

Posted by RandyOZ on (February 2, 2014, 23:11 GMT)

It really is good to hear the end of the likes of jmc and FFL, who have completely and utterly gone missing. Good to have the likes of unbiased commentators like JG still around!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 22:38 GMT)

england were useless in aus they shud give up on the word t20 not bother going

Posted by Biggus on (February 2, 2014, 22:34 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster:-"So finally England limp back home with their tail between their legs. What an outrageous tour this has been. Once back at home, they will beat some teams and their fans will think they are world no.1 again". Sounds an awful lot like your team India, wouldn't you say?

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 22:32 GMT)

I'm with Ian Burnett. The coaches here are either having no effect or having a negative effect.

The bowling shambles was obvious from the warm up games where Finn couldn't bowl at all, Tremlett was trundling in at 76mph (and that was his "effort" ball) Rankin looked like he needed oxygen after 2 overs. Panesar decided he was a medium pacer, dropped his arm 15 degrees and skidded the ball in. Bresnan played but rarely bowled above 82mph. Swann? need we say more?

England got off to a start in every test thanks to Anderson and Broad. Aussies going from about 100-5 to 300 odd for 6 or 7 and the initiative was blown as soon as the other bowlers took over.

Then the batting - attacking players lost their shots - then on realising how badly they were coping - threw their wickets away (normally to mid wicket or square leg off a top edge) The fielding was shown up by the far superior Aussies.

All in all the coaches either did nothing - or failed. I see no other option.

Sack them all

Posted by dsig3 on (February 2, 2014, 22:31 GMT)

Well its finally over. Thanks to the England supporters who have had a tough series. A really poor showing from England but if it makes you any happier, thats the norm for world cricket at the moment. I wont be surprised if we get rolled by England when we tour there next. Its the boom and bust era or cricket.

Posted by gavin7094 on (February 2, 2014, 22:26 GMT)

Dernbach 1-141 at 13 an over. Pathetic.

Posted by Shongololo on (February 2, 2014, 22:17 GMT)

So that was the 'scary' batting line-up Broad warned us about? And to think this man is being touted as a possible replacement should Cook call it quits. Cook's an intelligent, articulate gentleman, Broad pretty much the flip side.

Posted by ballonbat on (February 2, 2014, 22:05 GMT)

@ EverybodylovesSachin

That's nonsense. The Proteas have been winning away from home all over the world for a few years now. Haven't lost a series in fact. And that includes beating England and Australia at home. Admittedly they haven't played SL for a long while at home and they'd no doubt struggle there, but they ARE winning both in their backyards and on tour. In fact their home record is more shaky. They haven't beaten Australia at home since Pollock and Richards were playing 40+ years ago.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (February 2, 2014, 21:58 GMT)

As has been the way with T20 cricket Australia usually start taking it seriously before a World cup with there performance in the world cups ridiculing the rating system. With the firepower AUstralia have with the bat they got to be one of the favourites going into the world cup for what its worth here is my best XI. I don't see the point in picking a pure batsman at 6 in this format so see no need for Hodge to go. Warner, Finch, Watson, Maxwell, Bailey, Cutting, Haddin, Faulkner, Johnson, Starc, Doherty - other 4 squad members White, Muirhead, Coulter-Nile and Christian. There is serious batting fire power and seven bowling options so the batsman cant get set.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (February 2, 2014, 21:51 GMT)

Cpt.Meanstar; Might want to do a little more research before making your usual uninformed statements. You will find that Australia have beaten Sri Lanka, West Indies, New Zealand and Pakistan away in there last series. In fact the only teams they have lost to away in there last series are England and India.

Posted by CodandChips on (February 2, 2014, 21:49 GMT)

Amazing how Joe Root is made scapegoat. People forget he scored 90 not out in his first T20I innings. A very talented batsman who is long overdue a rest.

Good to see the Onions brigade is back out. What exactly has he done in T20s? My choice of a specialist T20 bowler would be Napier.

@JG2704if you go with a top order of Lumb, Hales, Wright, where do Pietersen, Morgan, Buttler fit? Do you really want them 4, 5, 6, and with just 5 specialist bowlers?

1.Hales 2.Vince 3.Pietersen 4.Morgan 5Buttler 6.Stokes 7.Ali 8.Broad 9.Napier 10.Jordan 11.Briggs

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 21:36 GMT)

Three long, arduous months away from the accommodating shores of England have finally come to an end and a tired, weary bunch can finally sleep in their own beds.

There will be much soul-searching and in-depth analyses on how it could all go so horribly wrong in a heartbeat. It is a classic example of the fleeting, ephemeral nature of momentary supremacy in the wide world of sports.

The England squad this summer will look dramatically different from the 'hopeful', confident one that left England for Australia in November! Alas, the sun may shine once again on English cricket as winter gives way to spring in a few short weeks hence.

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (February 2, 2014, 21:17 GMT)

Good thing Andy flower has gone , now if ECB is sensible enough to replace/kick out Ashley Giles , give the players a couple of weeks off and get someone like Stephan Flemming or john wright they will be back among the top 3 , this team has the talent , just needs some fresh thinking and guidance to get back to winning ways , and of course a new captain , may be Eoin morgan ?

Posted by bren19 on (February 2, 2014, 21:14 GMT)

Shameful Australia - How did we let them get one win? Seriously though, great season. Well played, well coached, well executed. You can look at all of the failings of the poms this summer but the truth is that they were outplayed.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (February 2, 2014, 20:57 GMT)

@CodandChips Yes he should have 100% after scoring 100* on his home ground with the game there he was sure he was playing leaving him out of the 11 after being put in squad must of been absolutely gutting for him and carried into Odi's although he was unlucky with run out and dodgy conditions early wickets falling his last game he scored nice half century after that hatrick form Mckay had Englan in ruin. He should still be in the sid enow the treatment is poor if he's discarded after those couple games. In regard to KP Giles said may not even be in the side I hope he is obviously no questions for me. Vince has future promise but I'm not sure right now and for WorldCup. I want to see Carberry given the shot he deserves in the West Indies Lumb has had a long run.

Posted by Sahmed99 on (February 2, 2014, 20:51 GMT)

Oddly enough, the teams of two of the countries that are part of the Big Three are performing abysmally.

The basis for their purported power is their power to draw crowds and not performance of course.

Giving absolute power to countries that perform not so well in international cricket is sad for cricket.This will get worse when they choose to play more cricket with each other based on their own choice and not what is good for the betterment of cricket or their own quality.

Posted by binojpeter on (February 2, 2014, 20:39 GMT)

So England's 3-month ordeal in Australia ended with just one ODI win. I thought that England was much better than that.

Posted by EverybodylovesSachin on (February 2, 2014, 20:28 GMT)

Cpt.Meanster - So finally England limp back home with their tail between their legs. What an outrageous tour this has been. Once back at home, they will beat some teams and their fans will think they are world no.1 again.

THIS IS THE WORLD CRICKET TODAY. EVERYBODY WINS IN THEIR BACKYARD. NEVER SEEN ANY TEAM DOMINATED WORLD CRICET IN LONG TIME..

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 19:43 GMT)

To some extent the media are to blame. They have hyped the England players up to such an extant that they could think they are great. I reality they've never been better than occasionally good. Not one of them would make the best England team since WWII.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (February 2, 2014, 19:31 GMT)

So finally England limp back home with their tail between their legs. What an outrageous tour this has been. Once back at home, they will beat some teams and their fans will think they are world no.1 again. Seriously, Australia are a mediocre team and England's performance or lack of it clearly shows how much their standard has dropped in the past few months. Australia will now play SA and I expect a tough series for them. In fact, SA could end up trouncing Australia and then the world will know how average the Aussies are. This is why I strongly oppose the 2 tier test system proposed by the Big 3 because no team is capable of beating anyone outside their backyard. England are still good enough to beat anyone at home but overseas they will struggle. The same story applies to India and Australia. Only SA hold an edge here but it remains to be seen for how much longer.

Posted by zzby on (February 2, 2014, 19:07 GMT)

Not selecting player on talent rather then liking/disliking costing England big time, Jordan proves that,Onion is still out. Now Moeen Ali is sitting out and Joe Root is playing on which perfoemce?

Posted by JG2704 on (February 2, 2014, 18:31 GMT)

@Mitty2 on (February 2, 2014, 12:00 GMT) You love your stats man. However I would say those stats actually make it look a closer contest than it actually was

@ Juiceoftheapple on (February 2, 2014, 12:55 GMT) To be fair (pre series - minus KP) I think many of us would be happy with a top 3 of Hales,Lumb,Wright but they've had a mare. Buttler has had a mare in the T20s too.Re the other names you mentioned Carberry I feel is gunshy in an England shirt , Trego of 2013 is worthy a punt but Trego of 2012 is not and Stevens I believe has some ban over him. Stokes at 3 was absolutely baffling and how Knight said it was seen as a success in the ODIs was even more baffling. Then again when Knight was going through his best ODI side a couple of years ago he managed to leave out KP. He said he wanted to include KP but he couldn't fit him and Bopara in the same side - and I'm not even joking!

Posted by wolf777 on (February 2, 2014, 18:20 GMT)

England will not win as long as they are wearing this red uniform...look at Zimbabwe. They lose more than they win. Our team plays in a cricket league out here in Western Suburb of Chicago. We have all red uniform one year...that was the worst ever season we ever had...ended up with ZERO win!

Posted by JG2704 on (February 2, 2014, 18:14 GMT)

That really was a shameful defeat.

Australia have basically owned England in the test and T20 series.

While I didn't make any silly predictions I felt that this was England's best chance of doing something , partly because only 3 of our side were regulars in the test series and 2 of them performed ok in the tests. Buttler showed promise in the ODIs but looked more like the poor guy who started his international career in the T20s.Wright has really shocked me as he's been doing well in the BBL in a winning team so I thought he'd bring that confident vibe to the team. Lumb and Hales have both been playing out there and had their moments too. Morgan looks a class above everyone in our side. Strange selections too I thought. No specialist spinner , Stokes batting at 3 and Bopara not getting a bowl when Dernbach bowls his full allocation? From this tour I suppose we take positives of Stokes in tests and Jordan in SFs but that's a very small silver lining

Posted by Chris_P on (February 2, 2014, 17:59 GMT)

I still cannot understand why this English team has performed so poorly. In Hales, Buttler, Morgan & Wright there are seriously good T20 players, capable of slotting in any T20 team & succeeding. Broad is a quality act, Dernbach showed, for the first 3 overs at least, what he is capable of. It has to be something internal, it is not that they are lacking talent. I have no doubt they'll bounce back, that will be the true test of their character.

Posted by voyrison on (February 2, 2014, 17:57 GMT)

England selection has been dire

Posted by PrasPunter on (February 2, 2014, 17:24 GMT)

Got to hand it to you Aussie Boys !! Over to SA !! Cant wait for Feb 12, with guarded optimism though.

Posted by victortrumpet on (February 2, 2014, 17:22 GMT)

Starting to think Australia should reinstate the Australia A concept when they'd inject a B team into a bi or trilateral series, often providing more competition than the visiting international team, and coincidentally coming at a time when Australia's golden era was just beginning. Certainly demonstrated which of the players putting up a hand for national duty could flourish under the limelight, unearthing such talents as Hayden and Hussey. Australia: Finch, White, Warner, Watson, Bailey, Maxwell, Haddin, Faulkner, Starc, Johnson, Muirhead. AustraliaA: Dunk, Paine, Marsh, Hodge, Smith, Lynne, Christian, Cutting, Coulter-Nile, Hazlewood, Doherty. AustraliaB: Klinger, Katich, Kawaja, Hussey, Hughes, Henriques, Wade, Richardson, Gannon, Laughlin, Zampa. Ok the batting gets a bit weak by the time your looking at Hughes and Kawaja, but the first two teams should be competitive with the likes of India and England.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (February 2, 2014, 17:11 GMT)

This may not get posted like the 5 others that did not! But I've seen worst article than mine getting posted. Why aren't mine getting posted here?

Posted by SL-USA-Lions on (February 2, 2014, 16:42 GMT)

@ Everyone:

Congrats to AUS. They had a plan and they executed all aspects perfectly. Not a fan of them at all but need to recognize them winning pretty much the WHOLE TOUR BY ENG.

Every team has ups and downs...

The REAL TEST of ENG would be to see how they rebound back from this defeat...

Can't compare them to real dominant teams as the 80s - mid 90's WI or the mid 90s - Mid 00s AUS teams..

But certainly in recent times this ENG side was a dominant force with a decent record...

So will they fall into a slump like the WI team after the 95...?

Or will they be able to rebound and perform at a decent level as the AUS did after loosing the Ashes in 05...?

Time will tell but I wish the ENG team all the very best...

It's always good to see the international Circuit full of good teams rather than few teams dominating all...

Because at the end good completion will bring out the best in every Country, Team and Player...

Thus ensuring the GAME OF CRICKET being THE ULTIMATE WINNER.

Posted by Dafffid on (February 2, 2014, 16:36 GMT)

England need a new selector more than a new coach. Worse than they're bowling, worse even than their batting this winter, has been their selecting, and today was yet another example. Why drop Lumb and keep Wright who had performed worse? Why play Root? His slow scoring is not T20 standard and made the difficult task impossible for those that came after. Why play Bopara so low? The match was - yet again - already lost by the time he came in. Is Broad really the best captain, his shuffling of the bowlers was poor again. Whyever pick Dernbach? Why did Jordan not play sooner? Is Onions invisible? And on and on it goes. Everyone will have their own ideas, but if this is England's best T20 side I'm the pope.

Posted by iceaxe on (February 2, 2014, 16:32 GMT)

What will the English commentators be saying now? Boycott & co must be spitting tacks over this tour! Still, I'm glad I haven't been listening to the Aussie commentary.

I find it interesting that the half-wit Aussie newspapers aren't even reporting the NZ / India results!

Some good performances in the T20 series. Have been impressed with Cameron White. Looking good for another IPL contract for him. Well done.

Posted by afghan_cric_lover on (February 2, 2014, 16:25 GMT)

well done Aussies i really enjoyed watching all the games ashes , Odis nd twenty20,,they are best team ,,and england would be happy that finally the tour is over

Posted by jonesy2 on (February 2, 2014, 16:21 GMT)

12-1. that is all.........................

Posted by AussiePhoenix on (February 2, 2014, 15:56 GMT)

ONE long quiet flight back.

Posted by CodandChips on (February 2, 2014, 15:56 GMT)

@BRUTALANALYST Carberry should have played in the home T20I vs Aus. But since then he has been a nervous wreck in the home ODI series, and sloppy in the tests. Kieswetter should be with Lumb Wright and Dernbach re those who cant deliver their domestic performances internationally. Better than Rankin and Bopara who cant even perform domestically I suppose.

On Root, he had a good FLT20and CLT20 in 2012 and scored 90 not out in his first T20I innings.

How about James Vince and KP in the top order?

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 15:39 GMT)

I just can't understand, why England keep on turning back to "use" (if at all he can be used) Dernbach! Does anybody know?

Posted by mbilalhussain on (February 2, 2014, 15:09 GMT)

With current preformance, England has no chance of winning next years WC in Aus/Nz

Posted by woody3 on (February 2, 2014, 14:55 GMT)

Thankfully thats over. Most utterly pathetic, gutless performance its been my misfortune to witness in 30 years of watching english cricket. All the stress and depression, acceptable in Afghanistan when getting shot at or having friends blown up, not for millionaires playing a sport and living a life most of us dream of.

Posted by jackiethepen on (February 2, 2014, 14:45 GMT)

England played far better in the ODIs than in the other formats. No one seems willing to admit this because of the unpopularity of the format among pundits, but England made it a closer series than 4-1. That could not be said of the two whitewashes. Two of the lost ODIs were taken down to the wire. Nowhere near in the Tests and t20. So why are we lumping them altogether? This does no service to the discerning fan. We can be sure that those scrutinising the sides have a much fairer idea of what they all achieved. They can't be all lumped together. They had different personnel. And some favourite ideas have bit the dust, like our t20 openers are good enough for ODIs. England lacked a good bowling attack in all formats but we fought harder in the ODIs. The players in those matches deserve some credit. They weren't abject failures for a start.

Posted by balajik2505 on (February 2, 2014, 14:20 GMT)

Well at the start of this tour, I expected England to win. Not 5-0, they were playing in Australia, but a win. They looked well drilled. They won the key moments in the home series. I had no idea they had started to unravel. They are badly bruised, but they can come back. The Duncan Fletcher method has run its course. The centrally contracted players should start playing more domestic cricket. What England needs is someone with a slight difference, not more of the same. What England needs is to go home, rest, regroup and rethink. They aren't as bad as this.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (February 2, 2014, 14:19 GMT)

@Yirrkalagruntled "And let us not forget that england took a brilliant T20 and 50 over player in Michael Carberry, crippled him in the tests and then discarded him in his formats of choice.Carberry deserved better."

Agree totally after the way he has consistently played in the FPT20/Pro40 it's ridiculous leaving him out.Not selecting him in the T20 side is just as bad as leaving Onions out of the Tests if not worse !

Root is not a T20 player. Wright and Lumb never deliver which is hardly surprising as they rarely even go big in domestic games so why expect them to in internationals ? Carbs/Kies are much better strikers of the ball and are way more consistent as they actually hit straight down the ground and use their feet Lumb/Hales/Wright rely totally on clearing short square boundaries an for Bangladesh another worry is they wil be up against allot of spin an area they struggle due to lack of footwork.Hales hitting potential lets him off though but the other 2 just don't cut it.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (February 2, 2014, 14:10 GMT)

One good thing for England is that India aren't doing too well in NZ. I think England will bounce back to a good side in less than 2 years. Not to the heights of no 1 but definitely not the lean periods of the 90s.

Posted by wapuser on (February 2, 2014, 14:10 GMT)

I think England cricket board should revemp of their cricket team instead of putting all energy to ICC Revamp.

Posted by android_user on (February 2, 2014, 14:08 GMT)

so this was the batting order that broad called scary!!!! well he s right ; England do need to be scared of their batting order right now! :)

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 13:52 GMT)

I hope Aus don't wilt in SA. Otherwise we'll have English fans (who after Indian fans are the second most annoying bunch) start on about how Aus are good only in their own back yard etc. etc. like Indian fans are constantly forced to by their incompetent team.

Posted by salazar555 on (February 2, 2014, 13:49 GMT)

As an England football and cricket fan you get used to disappointment with the team not winning. It is rare that I feel embarrassed watching a team though and that was how I felt watching these guys. They are suppose to be the best England have got to offer, they are wearing the three lions. Have they got no shame?

Give me some players with bit of fight and pride. I don't care if they get beat, just give me some fight because these overpaid rabble currently playing don't deserve to wear the shirt

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 13:48 GMT)

Instead of Giles Clarke giving Giles a boost regarding the head coach position, the whole coaching staff from this winter should be examined and ditched. Gooch: the batting problems have been apparent from the NZ trip and nothing was done. Plus positive batsmen like root and Carberry became shotless presumabley on his coaching advice. Saker: Having 3 fast bowlers not functioning doesn't look good especially when one of them completely loses his action - you wonder what sort of conflicting advice he was receiving ! Halsall: the fielding has been very poor in all formats with numerous dropped catches and misfields. The drills need freshening up and Collingwood would be good in this respect. The team psychologist (name escapes me): Well he did a good job instilling confidence and positivity into the players It needs a total refresh from top to bottom - but I suspect the jobs-for-the-boys culture will and Giles will get it as he's "a valued ECB employee" as Clarke put it.

Posted by CodandChips on (February 2, 2014, 13:46 GMT)

(continued)

4.Morgan- should be captain in white ball cricket. Automatic selection, strong leader, good tactically and no burden of tests.

5.Buttler- has improved keeping and batting

6.Stokes- appears a bits and pieces cricket in all formats (like Flintoff) but is useful, especially as he can score quickly and confident to bowl at death

7.Ali- Mike Yardy role. Has improved as a spinner. Can score quickly.

8.Broad- class bowler but not a captain

9.Napier- best yorker bowler in the country. Can bowl decent pace in small spells. Wouldn't expect lots of his batting, but has the world record and decent f/c season- could go in early to give it a biff

10.Jordan- decent tour

11.Briggs- who else have we got in this format? (White? Parry?)

Root- Needs a rest but good batsman. Possible spin option.

Davies- Good keeper and attacking bat

Borthwick- all round spinner. Huge risk though

Gurney- has done well in limited overs cricket.

Posted by muzika_tchaikovskogo on (February 2, 2014, 13:46 GMT)

Torture over. England can now return home to lick their wounds

Posted by CodandChips on (February 2, 2014, 13:41 GMT)

(continued)

Dernbach should go as well. Yes he his skilful and brave, but needs to be smarter in his use of his slower balls and variations. I realise Lumb should probably go as well because his record isn't great and he can't play spin at all well.

For WT20 I would tinker with the squad. I doubt will win anyway, so why not give some talented youngsters a chance. A shame that Willey is injured, but oh well. At least 2 spin options is a must, especially in Bangladesh.

1.Hales 2.Vince 3.Pietersen 4.Morgan 5.Buttler 6.Stokes 7.Ali 8.Broad 9.Napier 10.Jordan 11.Briggs

1.Hales- Yes poor this series, but has been our best for a while

2.Vince- Goes out attacking but plays proper shots- could be a useful player in all formats

3.Pietersen- best player in the format. Would walk into any team. Can also bowl useful spin and field. Would be vice captain (if it doesn't hurt his ego)

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Posted by Lloydster on (February 2, 2014, 13:41 GMT)

Sure England is hurting from the disastrous tour but on paper the sides picked have been more than capable of delivering. Aussie also got their act together quickly to exploit some weaknesses. I think the whole coaching party needs an overhaul as they failed to mentally equip the guys. Speaking as a Saffer(UK) I hope the Aussies dont intimidate the Proteas as they did the English.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (February 2, 2014, 13:40 GMT)

And, utterly predictably, the bones of Eng's three months' long Shambles' Street are there for all to pick over. It's not nice being a vulture, but it occurs to me that the one point everyone can agree on is that, ON PAPER, Eng is not that bad a side, but - equally incontrovertibly - no matter which format we are speaking about - it is a side that's less than the sum of its parts. And this begs the obvious question: why? After reflection, I toss this into the ring: it lacks dominant characters - characters that refuse to be cowed; refuse to be shoulder-shruggers; stand up and give it back, if possible with interest. The very presence of certain players can be/ has been talismanic - Botham, Gough, Lamb, John Snow, Trueman, and even in recent years, Swann. And yes, at his arrogant best, KP. There was an infectiousness in the way they went about their cricket; it didn't matter that they weren't captains, but they did inspire those around them - through chest-out attitude. Where are they?

Posted by IPSY on (February 2, 2014, 13:38 GMT)

It is quite noticeable that in the T/20 format which is predicted to take over the place of test cricket, Australia is No 6 in the world rankings; and England No 8. But I am not hearing about BIG 3 and TIERED SYSTEM in this the most 'popular' format. I said before, if the so called BIG THREE are adamant for for the establishment of a TIERED SYSTEM in test cricket, then we would only agree to that here in the Caribbean, if the tier is spread across all formats. Hence, England should have to play Nairobi and Kenya, etc. to qualify for the T/20 World Cup - that is only fair!

Posted by whofriggincares on (February 2, 2014, 13:36 GMT)

Well well well. Can't describe the feeling I (we all) are experiencing now. I guess this is the price England has to pay for winning 3 ashes on the trot, demoralized ,set back 10 years and utterly smashed, will they ever recover from this? The answer is no they just don't have the talent at this point in time. I just thank the cricketing god's for making me an Aussie I forgot what it means to lose but have been reminded by what it means to win and dominate. Just happy to be alive!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 13:34 GMT)

thats it.. the good times for aussie will end here. now they will get the taste of defeat from SA hands.

Posted by dreamliner on (February 2, 2014, 13:33 GMT)

Some may recall moi saying after the first three test losses that the team selection was suspect, and that the two real performers from the EPP test draw against Queensland XI should be drafted in immediately to mitigate proceedings for Adelaide. While someone rightly pointed out that SD Robson was ineligible, but why omit Moeen Ali who incidentally scored 83runs in his first innings, and then 25no in his 2nd at 227% strike rate prior to declaration. While he didn't ball in the 1st innings when Bres took 4wickets, Ali took a critical 5for in the second innings while Bres remained wicketless. As well as form on his side, something so defunct in the playing 11, Ali was also 2013 player of the Year. After writing all this I was by the large part ignored by the majority of those commenting, and the few responses were all negative along the lines of 'too soon', 'there's others ahead of him', 'he plays in the second division',etc. Only one poster agreed so there you have it. Giles out!

Posted by CodandChips on (February 2, 2014, 13:31 GMT)

Another disgraceful performance. Slipping to 8 is not that much of a surprise considering this is almost the same team as the one that put up the shambolic effort in Sri Lanka last year.

I don't buy into "unlucky dismissals". It's more "sloppiness"- eg Carberry in the tests.

Ravi Bopara should have played his last match for England in any format. Can't finish off a chase (except in Dublin) and has poor career stats- especially ODIs- averages 30 in 99 matches at a strike rate under 80. Yes, hokey cokey pogo stick (in and out the side, up and down the order, but still a poor record). Luke Wright is another overrated batsman. Yes he does well domestically but is poor internationally. 6 50s in nearly 100 matches for England. Averages under 20 in 49 T20Is and barely over it in 48 ODIs.

Bresnan has to go. He has bowled well in 1 test, 1 ODI and 1 T20I. Not good enough- especially considering he is a "senior player".

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Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on (February 2, 2014, 13:29 GMT)

Goodbye England, thanks for coming. It's nice to win but England couldn't have had a worse tour and they weren't much to watch. Well I suppose they could have won 0 games instead of 1. @FFL, what say you now? Are they still warming up?

Posted by NALINWIJ on (February 2, 2014, 13:25 GMT)

This is not the case of a more talented team beating the lest talented team but a case of well crafted psychological annhialation that was carried out by Johnson as the weapon and Clarke as the puppet master but persisted even in their absence. Swan used the controversial term rape but this season was an unrelenting case of post traumatic stress disorder.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (February 2, 2014, 13:20 GMT)

I can't see why we are considering Giles as the man to coach/manage England in all formats of the game! We've lost 12-1 in all only 5 of those where Test matches the other 7 where limited overs so his average is worse then Flower on this tour! Sorry but that's not what I think we should be looking for in the next head of England cricket coaching

Posted by 64blip on (February 2, 2014, 13:11 GMT)

How many times have England fans thought "Well, that's the last time Dernbach will play for us"? Unbelievable. He obviously has the right "mind set" and "skill set" that make up the kind of player Team England require. Giles as head coach??

Posted by cricketsubh on (February 2, 2014, 13:10 GMT)

great summer for austrlia ends now real test starts they already in s.a for 3 test and after that they go to t20 world cup and play pak in their home i think end of this year world knows who good australia as a team in all conditions i think this aus team can win in s.a and t20world cup and pak test series but only probles for australia is they are ageing side in test they got had din and rogers both 36 they need to think about their replacements in coming 1 years not picking young players is a big problem for australia in few years yes they are settle side now but not for to long becoz they got 3.4 old player in the team hope they can replace them in future.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (February 2, 2014, 13:10 GMT)

End of another tour, and what a remarkable display by the Australians. THAT (are you taking notes ECB?) is the way to assert your authority in cricket. Whether or not Australia can now continue this form away from home remains to be seen, but nobody can take away what an inspiring display and team effort this has been from the Australians.

I didn't watch or follow any of this last game, but came on to have a look at the result with a mindset along the lines of: "how much have we lost by this time?" I don't mind that England gave Dernbach a crack at the last game, but now can't help but think that may very well have been his last game for some time. England's batsmen (with the exception of Morgan) never really got going by the looks of things, and were comprehensively beaten by better bowling. As a leggie myself, I'm looking forward to following the rise of young James Muirhead. Is he eligible for a British passport yet?... *fingers crossed*

Posted by cricketsubh on (February 2, 2014, 13:10 GMT)

great summer for austrlia ends now real test starts they already in s.a for 3 test and after that they go to t20 world cup and play pak in their home i think end of this year world knows who good australia as a team in all conditions i think this aus team can win in s.a and t20world cup and pak test series but only probles for australia is they are ageing side in test they got had din and rogers both 36 they need to think about their replacements in coming 1 years not picking young players is a big problem for australia in few years yes they are settle side now but not for to long becoz they got 3.4 old player in the team hope they can replace them in future.

Posted by cricktarian on (February 2, 2014, 12:56 GMT)

speaking about unlucky 111 if we look at the number of their lost matches surprisingly it is 11 as well. Well done England way to go

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (February 2, 2014, 12:55 GMT)

Oh and did I mention scoreboard pressure. Dernbach Dernbach Dernbach. Lets start with Onions for Bresnan in tests. Compton to No.3 in tests. Tredwell given a long run as the short format spinner. Root to 6 in one format only, probably ODI's. Likewise Stokes. Let some old pros have a go at T20's Stevens/Trego/defnitely Lumb. Taylor for tests at 6. Carberry opening in ODIs. All test bowlers omitted from ODI's all the time and good bowling prospects given a go to develop in ODI's, not thrown to the dogs in tests (Kerrigan/Woakes). KP allowed to play T20s and tests only. Belll allowed to pick and choose. 3 different formats, 3 different teams, all requiring something completely different.

Posted by salazar555 on (February 2, 2014, 12:51 GMT)

I'm writing this after watching England lose 3 on the bounce in 20/20. I have to say this whole series has been an absolute shambles and there's a lot of people who should feel ashamed with the performances. These individuals are playing for their country, they are wearing the 3 lions and they have no fight, no desire and no skill.

Posted by Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on (February 2, 2014, 12:50 GMT)

Why is Wade still included in the side? He makes a couple of terrible mistakes with the gloves every single game , but the selectors still persist with him. There are plenty of better options for a keeper in state cricket.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (February 2, 2014, 12:46 GMT)

How is dernbach ranked in the top 10 t20 bowlers? Just shows it's a batsmans game... Hales won't last long at number 1. Finch, Warner and white are all better than him. He proved in the big bash he was over rated. England will struggle in the World Cup!!!

Aussies look solid, going to be hard to choose an 11 for the World Cup!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 12:44 GMT)

I guessed on Friday that the Aussies might de-frost the dead dog of English cricket, and drag it to the town dump to give its lifeless corpse another kicking in front of a baying crowd.

I'm only surprised that I'm surprised that that's exactly what happened. I'm not normally possessed of that level of prescience.

Even during the 90's I never stopped watching England but now? My TV and radio have remained off for the past couple of weeks. After 40 years of watching cricket whenever I could. I've had enough. One spineless pathetic display after another. Lacking motivation, talent and respect for the tradition they represent.

In the 90's they won the odd test, a couple of ODI's. In 2006/7 after a 5-0 ashes drubbing they won the ODI's with Liam Plunkett and Saj Mahmood!

This side is the pits. Can't catch, can't bowl, can't bat. Can't be bothered to watch them anymore. Cancelled Sky sports subs (I only have it for the cricket) saved some money to do something else instead.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

Let's not get too excited over Muirhead. Let's remember Steve Smith looks like a world class bowler in T20.

Posted by steve48 on (February 2, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

Thank god its over. But with decision making like ours, what will change outside home conditions? Where is the flexibility of approach? Stokes 3, Root 4, Dernbach not only playing but bowling the last over after the battering he has taken? I can watch us lose, but not without a fight. Not sending Ravi to 3, Morgan 4 and Buttler 5 chasing that score was tantamount to suicide. If my idea failed, at least going down all guns blazing. But sadly that has been the story of the tour, stick with the plan no matter what. Not enough singles in the tests, leading to a terrible scoring rate yet getting out to rash shots, then not packing the top order with rope clearers, yet playing a batting heavy side! Jos Buttler must think coming into bat only needing 10 an over is a gift! Aussies have been excellent, fair play, but they have TRIED to be, full of intent, planning and adaptation. I just hope we don't flatter to deceive in the world cup! Flower has gone, now the rest of the management!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 12:40 GMT)

The Women's Ashes was fantastic, with amazing performance for both bat and ball on both sides (although Elysse Perry's unbeaten 90 off 95 in Hobart was my personal highlight).

And as for the victory - well done England.

Posted by Yirrkalagruntled on (February 2, 2014, 12:32 GMT)

And let us not forget that england took a brilliant T20 and 50 over player in Michael Carberry, crippled him in the tests and then discarded him in his formats of choice. Carberry deserved better. England needs a serious overhaul. It seems some experienced as well as new players, such as Stokes, are needed to revitalise the team. Players that haven't been overdone by years under Flower. Even the best of coaches can make players flat if the regime stays the same. More Carberry, Stokes and Jordan please!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 12:25 GMT)

Broad came out with the "looking for positives" tripe after the match - the only "positives" will be if Dernbach never gets a game for England again and if Giles doesn't get the coach job.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 12:25 GMT)

I want to say that this tour of Australia was a real close contest, and that England had narrowly been able to hold their own while Australia ran them really close. I guess that actually did happen, but only on the Women's side of things. The men had a tour to forget. They only competed three times this series, once during the Melbourne test (which they lost), and twice during the ODIs (of which Faulkner saved Australia in one, but England found a way in the other). This England team has been woefully out of form for a year now. I won't give them a price in the upcoming World T20, nor will I against the West Indies. English Cricket has seemingly returned to the Dark Ages. By contrast, the Aussies can believe they can run South Africa really close. That will be a series watched with keen interest.

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (February 2, 2014, 12:24 GMT)

Bowling is key to winning cricket matches, and we show bowlers nothing of the respect that is showered on batsman. We need a 3rd world class fast bowler, but refuse to pick the men who take Div.1 wickets. When we should play T20 bowlers who take pace off the ball, we try to bowl faster. Unfortunately it needs someone out of the England bubble to set things right, to separate the formats, someone to stand up to the ECB and not be a yes man, with a great cricket brain. And if someone like Atherton won't do it, then it has to be a foreigner, and let's be honest, only a stubborn as a mule hard as nails Saffer would be acceptable. Kirsten it is then.

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (February 2, 2014, 12:23 GMT)

Stokes to 3, Root to 4, Dernbach to bowl all four and the death overs, Bopara doesn't bowl and no spinner. In the words of football fans YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING If Giles gets the England job we'll be the whipping boys of cricket. The absolute failure of England in the last 2 years was not how we handled our senior pros, it was how we handled the next generation, Stokes doesn't have the control yet, Root doesn't have the ability yet, but they are made saviours!! We are not playing our best bowlers, we reduce spin to the same importance as the bus driver. We've tried players and tossed them aside. It's a joke. Players are not picked on merit and ability alone, but something that only the England 'club' understand.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (February 2, 2014, 12:23 GMT)

And so ends one of the most comprehensive poundings of a cricket team of all time. And not by a great team either.

For Australia: they are one the way up. They have found their Aussie tenacity they are well know for over cricket history and have an embarrassing depth of talent in the bowling. The batting needs work to regain our rightful place at the top of the cricket tree but that is not far off.

For England: wholesale changes to the team are needed. Changing the coach is not enough, they need to remove dead wood like KP and Anderson and bring in players with some grunt, like Stokes. One doubts that the selectors will be that bold at this early stage of their long climb back to being capable of giving Australia a run for their money. One suspects it will be many years before England can avoid being beaten by the new cricket force that is Australia!

Posted by cccrider on (February 2, 2014, 12:21 GMT)

But for Bailey's brain explosion at toss at Perth - would be 13:0.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (February 2, 2014, 12:13 GMT)

Carberry has to start in Englands T20 the selection is absurd there is no power in this top order to take it to any opposition, Joe Root in T20 ? Derbach Wright and Lumb how many chances these guys get yet never deliver in Internationals. It will be an absolute outrage if this same side goes to West Indies and the World Cup !

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (February 2, 2014, 12:09 GMT)

Interesting. In Broad's post match speech, he describes his side as "decent". I think that is a definite down-grade from "scary".

Posted by ModernUmpiresPlz on (February 2, 2014, 12:08 GMT)

@JG2704 If you're English that's succeeding.

@shot274 I really hope the selectors don't get too excited over Muirhead and chuck him in the test team too soon. He's too good for that, he needs some one on one time with Warne and a few years to have real consistency that you NEED in the long form. Otherwise we're going to shatter his confidence early on, and go back to the spinner roundabout we were on not long ago. In a T20 batsman aren't using any real technique, Muirhead bowls the odd gem at the moment but there's a lot of fluff in between that will get punished by good players of spin in a test match. Overpitched, long hops, full and wide garbage. Once he cleans that up he'll be the best damn leggie in the world.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (February 2, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

Thanks for the terrific summer boys! Has been absolutely magnificent the way the Aussies came out and hammered the poms. Now we have an actual challenge ahead of us, South Africa. Let's get the job done fellas and good luck

Posted by Syed_imran_abbas on (February 2, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

Big three???? Is that competitive you are??? I am afraid there wasn't any contest.

Posted by Mitty2 on (February 2, 2014, 12:05 GMT)

I just realised how little these days I talk about what actually happened in the game... I guess that's what happens when a win and an England collapse is an inevitability. I miss the days when Australia had the worst ever batting line up to wear the baggy green, when we had a seamer for a spinner, a keeper worse than kamran Akmal, and when all of bowlers despite whatever potential would just get injured. The bare cupboard banter made the cricket more interesting... Now the sole focus is not even on us just on the Pomnishambles.

Some might say we've played too much cricket with England recently, so you'd expect a long break so the loser could recover, right? No! See ya next year England! I wonder what the team will look like then... No Trott, no KP, no Prior, maybe Anderson, obviously no Swann and you know what on Cook's and Root's form there could be neither of them as well. Hopefully Dernbach will be their number one seamer by then.

Posted by ModernUmpiresPlz on (February 2, 2014, 12:01 GMT)

I really like this Derrbach guy. Mouths off for no apparent reason, then goes for 26 in the last over, and runs himself out hilariously to finish the tour. Well played, son. I feel like there's at least a couple of fair replacements for him lurking in the women's team.

I'm glad the travesty is over now, time to watch some real cricket against SA.

Posted by Mitty2 on (February 2, 2014, 12:00 GMT)

It's been a close tour, just relieved that we won in the end. Been a lot of the time the boys seemed down and out when England were on top, but to their credit they just kept on fighting. It may not be the absolute demolishing that can be expected of previous Aus teams, but a win's a win. Especially when the ledger reads: 12-1.

Runs Scored: Aus: 5019 Eng: 3938

Wickets Lost: Aus: 124 Eng: 170

12-1. Damn you England for winning in Perth.

Posted by ScottStevo on (February 2, 2014, 11:55 GMT)

Horror tour. I wonder if they'll even bother hitting the showers before heading to the airport. I don't think these blokes can get out of Australia fast enough...They came here talking of smashing us 5-0 and leave after getting their comeuppance!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 11:54 GMT)

On this evidende England should sack Giles as well.

Posted by android_user on (February 2, 2014, 11:53 GMT)

don't go home yet England, you're just starting to come right bahahahahaha

Posted by CricketEinstein on (February 2, 2014, 11:50 GMT)

@ LALITHKURUWITA If you are not interested in the match between low ranked teams, why do you watch england batting ? Or is it because of your frustration that srilanka has not won even a single test against australia till now ?

Posted by shot274 on (February 2, 2014, 11:50 GMT)

Not even going to bother commenting on this match -its a non event! But what really impresses me is James Muirhead. He is the most exciting spinner currently in international cricket and full marks to whoever spotted him. This chap is potentially a world beater!I wish he gets a chance in the longer format soon

Posted by vimal03 on (February 2, 2014, 11:49 GMT)

Dernbach and Root don't deserve a place in the England side (Any format). Look at Root he struggled to get 2 runs in the test match facing several balls. Then how could you expect him to score 2 run in a ball (England selector don't have to be innovative just be practical). Dernbach in the other hand is a complete misunderstanding. Both aren't good enough fro international cricket and England selectors should make decision on KP as the world T20 is nearing.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (February 2, 2014, 11:48 GMT)

And Ashley Giles is the person to sort this all out . I hope not.

Posted by imtiazjaleel on (February 2, 2014, 11:45 GMT)

Broad's statement that England's batting lineup is scary. He meant to say that they are scared of Aussie bowlers. Talent without consistency is what England team is now. They cannot perform under pressure.

Posted by biloo007 on (February 2, 2014, 11:34 GMT)

i think England badly need CORE-ENDERSON,,lolx

Posted by Slazenger84 on (February 2, 2014, 11:25 GMT)

Present world no 1 T20 batsman must be the worst cricketer ever to get a no 1 ranking in any format of the game.

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 2, 2014, 11:22 GMT)

Scary batting line-up, eh Stu?

Posted by JG2704 on (February 2, 2014, 11:15 GMT)

Great shout bringing in Stokes at 3 (NOT)

Are my ears deceiving me? I think I just heard Nick Knight saying that Stokes at 3 in the ODIs was something of a success?

So I'm guessing that averaging just over 21 with a SR of just over 70 on mostly 300 par pitches is a success?

Posted by Puffin on (February 2, 2014, 11:14 GMT)

I think we can see what is coming here.

Posted by JG2704 on (February 2, 2014, 11:09 GMT)

@Craig Hayward on (February 2, 2014, 10:34 GMT) He's still watching and still producing quality comments

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 2, 2014, 11:06 GMT)

8 off 16 balls. Slow done Joe Root! It's only a T20!!

Posted by looloogun on (February 2, 2014, 11:04 GMT)

bopara did not bowl today and lumb is a much better batsman than what we saw in the last two games .poor and bizzare selections from englaand even now.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 11:00 GMT)

Dernbach. The taem selection is a joke as uasual. He gets stuffed in the first 2 games so let's pick him a 3rd time. All you hear from the so-called experts is that "Oh yes Dernbach, he has so many variations". Yes variety is great if you go for a decent amount of runs but constantly going for 6+ per over in 50 over cricket and even more in 20 overs makes him a waste of time. He is all mouth and bravado when he takes a wicket in any form of cricket but I have heard it said on the county circuit that no one there even thinks he is any good. Hands up who thinks he will be in England's next one-day side?

Posted by disco_bob on (February 2, 2014, 10:58 GMT)

@ShutTheGate, England aren't good enough for Dernbach to cost them the match. I was hoping England could win this to avoid the pain of having the single ODI loss, cost us the triple whitewash.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 10:53 GMT)

disappointed withe standard of wicketkeeping by Matthew Wade. He has been sloppy since he rested Brad Haddin in the ODI's and has not improved in the T20's. Tim Paine is a far better keeper and Brad Haddin rightfully is no. 1.

Posted by LALITHKURUWITA on (February 2, 2014, 10:49 GMT)

It is worst thing to watch Eng batting.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (February 2, 2014, 10:48 GMT)

In fairness to all Australian bowlers, I was wondering if all games where Matthew Wade has kept wicket can be abolished fro there bowling records. He is just not up to scratch. Nathan Lyon would have a Test average under 30 if not for Wade. Interesting to note as well that as soon as White looks set in the Aussie team he goes into his shell. 41 runs is good but at almost a run a ball in T20 makes you think that something happens to him when things are expected of him.

Posted by Wallruss on (February 2, 2014, 10:47 GMT)

Don't worry England fans. Root's in next to consolidate the innings!

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 10:35 GMT)

Why did England need 8 bowlers? Put Pieterson in (who can bowl spin) and you could replace a couple of bowlers with big hitters. Having a tail of 4 bowlers in this game is too many, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it coming down to Broad and Bresnan to hit 58 off 20 balls. Which they can't.

Posted by android_user on (February 2, 2014, 10:34 GMT)

if you're not interested lalith then you wouldn't bother with this blog! similar to dernbach actually, all mouth and no game to back it.

Posted by Back-Foot-Cringe on (February 2, 2014, 10:34 GMT)

Uh oh, Dernbach's last over goes for 26. Pom fans will be slightly peeved. Too many tattoos, not enough dot balls for the Jadester.

Will sit back & read the flood of Dernbach denigrating that will flow, beginning . . . now.

Posted by TPIGOLD on (February 2, 2014, 10:27 GMT)

Yes Bailey is a dominant batsman that causes a few headaches to opposition teams. Another person causing headaches to Team England is Dernbach; from the three T20 games he has bowled in Australia this week he has figures of 12 overs for 1/142. That must be a big issue that needs addressing, amongst many other issues.

Posted by Svendor on (February 2, 2014, 10:25 GMT)

Can't understand why you'd bother making a comment if you're not interested?

Posted by Whatsgoinoffoutthere on (February 2, 2014, 10:25 GMT)

Dernach gets pasted again. 26 off the last over??

We could pick a pantomime horse instead of Dernbach and expect better results.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (February 2, 2014, 10:15 GMT)

I think that Dernbach's last over just lost them the game.

Can someone please explain what Dan Christian is good at? He seems like he's an ok bowler and an ok batter but not great at either. Do we need him in the side if Maxwell is in the team? What happened to Lynn?

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 2, 2014, 10:15 GMT)

Jade Dernbach seems to be the Ishant Sharma of England... why would you deploy him against someone like Bailey...?

Posted by tom120 on (February 2, 2014, 9:17 GMT)

I hope it will be a big show by Maxwell tonight.

Posted by JG2704 on (February 2, 2014, 9:00 GMT)

Not sure what will happen in this game - although we all have a fair idea - but in the preview it said that the pitch could offer assistance to spin. Based on that , I suggested that we try and bring in Briggs for Dernbach and then have Stokes coming in for Root but on a pitch which could offer assistance to spin we have no full time spinner and a possible part time option who we've been reluctant to try/use.

Posted by LALITHKURUWITA on (February 2, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

Not interested as both are low ranke teams in T20, Aos ranked 6 and Eng, 8th.

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