West Indies tri-series 2013

Not just a Testicide

With little context, this tri-series could be looked upon as another blow to Test cricket, but for the teams, it provides a chance to grow, build and streamline their ODI outfits

Abhishek Purohit

June 27, 2013

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West Indies players joke with Rohit Sharma while waiting for the third umpire's decision, India v West Indies, Champions Trophy, Group B, The Oval, June 11, 2013
There it goes: Another Test series has been consumed by the need to play more ODI cricket © AFP
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Seen from one perspective, this tri-series could be the latest instance of Testicide - the act by which a scheduled Test match or series is aborted (or rescheduled, to an unspecified date) by cash-strapped boards for the big money that a one-day series, preferably involving India, brings in. The WICB and SLC achieved that by scrapping the two Tests they were scheduled under the FTP to play against each other in May; they also managed to convince India to be the third team in a one-day tri-series that starts in Jamaica five days after the Champions Trophy ended in England.

But, as MS Dhoni might have put it in one of his interesting metaphors, if a delivery van has been assigned a particular route, there is little the driver, or anybody else, can achieve by fantasising about how good some other route may have been. And this route has one major attraction: The full-strength squad fielded by each country.

Barring a couple of injuries, and in West Indies' case, the need to cull a couple of players for a smaller home-series squad, all three squads are identical to the ones that participated in the Champions Trophy. These are first-choice squads, not some watered-down versions that may have made up the numbers in numerous forgotten one-day series in the past. The boards are quite serious about this series alright.

What about the teams? Host captain Dwayne Bravo has had a heartbreaking start to his limited-overs leadership, with West Indies exiting the Champions Trophy following a rain-hit tied match against South Africa. As Bravo said after the game, West Indies are trying to grow and build a stronger one-day team. New Zealand and Zimbabwe were the last two visitors to the Caribbean. Compared to them, the challenge posed by India and Sri Lanka will aid West Indies' development as a one-day unit. Admittedly, the hosts have made some strides. Having gone more than four years without winning at home against opposition excluding Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, they drew with Australia in March 2012 and then won 4-1 against New Zealand. What Bravo will also want is to grow into his new leadership role. As of now, he is captain in only one format, and taking on two well-drilled ODI outfits can only make him develop further.

The road ahead is tough for Angelo Mathews. Not only does he have to evolve as a captain and a player, he also has to make sure Sri Lanka's reliance on the seniors goes down progressively as the 2015 World Cup approaches. India have successfully achieved that transition in ODIs, so much so that, the window on seniors such as Virender Sehwag seems to be all but closed. Sri Lanka appear to be nowhere close to achieving that. The absence of the injured Tillakaratne Dilshan in this series is a small opportunity, one which Mathews will hope he and Sri Lanka can use to their benefit.

The last time India won a world title, they had Sachin Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh and Zaheer Khan in the line-up. In just over two years, the nucleus of the one-day side has changed beyond recognition. Who would have thought an opening combination of Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma would win the Champions Trophy? The selectors had indicated their focus on the 2015 World Cup by selecting a young side for the Champions Trophy, and have chosen to continue with the same approach for this series. These four or five games, against reasonably tough opposition, aren't bad for a young unit to build its confidence further.

Coming to overall context, this series has none. Of course, it isn't the first one-day series, bilateral or tri-nation, devoid of it. Nor will it be the last. Some might argue that a bilateral Test series between West Indies and Sri Lanka, in the absence of a Test Championship, would not have provided any more context. But at least in that case, the game would have been spared the latest instance of Testicide.

Abhishek Purohit is a sub-editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by Tailender11 on (June 29, 2013, 6:46 GMT)

@Seyed Quaid Mowlana: WOW!!! How dare you to chastise the genisis of International Cricket??!!! Clearly you dont appreciate the strategies and challenges of Test Cricket and are only interested in the excitement of the shorter game OR maybe its because your test team is not good!

Posted by Rally_Windies on (June 29, 2013, 0:32 GMT)

Rohit Sharma has still not played a TEST match ?

Why ? Why ?

He is good enough to play for England, He is good enough to Make Stve Waugh and Riki Pointings world dominating Auz sides.. He is good enough to make Clive Llyod's Test team ....

but he still can't play Tests for India ? It is insane ......

Posted by   on (June 28, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

I remembering Rohit Sharma won MOS in our last both WI series in WI as well as in India. I strongly think now Rohit is on driver seat. From here he can easily travel strieght to Indian Test team. He passed CT test in UK. I am sure in WI if he show same form he will be selected for SA series. In fact for him there is a place in Indian test side as in our last test Ajinkya Rahane didn't scored in both innings against Aussies. So Rohit must have an eye for that place. Really wondering still a batsman having such huge calliber still not played a single test yet. In England after V Richards I haven't seen any batsman in the world who faced short balls so comfortably against some of worlds top most bowlers. Against Morkel, Roach, Irfan, Kulsekra, Tsotsobe etc Rohit has shown tremendous performances. All the best Rohit. Play well in WI. Just repeat your last WI performance. We all are waiting to watch you playing tests for India.

Posted by dishNub on (June 28, 2013, 13:47 GMT)

Completely inconsequential series that absolutely nobody cares about.

Posted by Nampally on (June 28, 2013, 13:21 GMT)

Yes, India made an excellent transition from the old stars to new ones. Dhawan has been knocking at the door for over 2 years before he finally displaced Sehwag & Gambhir. So his arrival at the scene is no surprise- only delayed by 2 years. Rohit Sharma & Jadeja had talent but never living up to it by their flashes of immaturity. They have advanced. In B.Kumar, India found an excellent & steady pace bowler who is ideal replacement for ZAK. Ashwin & Jadeja are 2 excellent spinners.India is still searching for 2 other Pace bowlers who are just as good. Mohit Sharma & Sandeep Sharma are potential choices. Ishant & Yadev are both far too erratic. Unless they work on their length & direction, they are likely to be history. In the middle order batting, Kohli is the only reliable guy. Pujara needs to be brought in as reinforcement. Raina, Kartick & Tiwary can fight it out for the 3rd spot.Dhoni has established himself as the skipper. Karan Sharma for the leg spinners spot in this Young India.

Posted by nicknick24 on (June 28, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

india is goin to win this tri nation cup

Posted by   on (June 28, 2013, 9:42 GMT)

@kamran sekha: i welcome the death of test cricket, after all, it's yesterdays news.

Posted by   on (June 28, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

Any cricket that arises at the expense of test cricket doesn't interest me at all. Anyone who encourages such a tournament is contributing towards the death of test cricket.

Posted by bbnn on (June 28, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

The success of Indian Team is the brilliance if Mahndra Sing Dhoni handling new rules of ICC and the players are playing according to MSDs plan , When other teams are adopting well those rules they will be ompetitve,and MSD got a very good player to handle the situation , Raveendra Jadeja

Posted by jango_moh on (June 28, 2013, 4:06 GMT)

not sure how much more context a bilateral test series (esp b/w lower ranked teams) has over a tri-series with strong teams taking part!!!! everything doesnt need to have context in the first place... if 3 pretty strong teams with mostly youngsters are playing, it should be fun to watch... plain and simple!!!!

Posted by pratit on (June 28, 2013, 3:53 GMT)

Wish they prepare fast bouncy pitches. Sigh! in reality they will be slow turning ones

Posted by class9ryan on (June 28, 2013, 2:39 GMT)

West Indies have to find young players. Kieran Powell was excellent in that disastrous tour of Australia and is the future of WI's opening. Chris Gayle fitness has come down and would be concerning WI. They need Johnson Charles and Darren bravo to be more consistent. They need to have at least 2 players averaging more than 40 in ODIs. Chanders can be tried now as it is important that somebody controls the innings especially in the next series against the tough bowling attack of Pakistan.

Posted by   on (June 28, 2013, 0:04 GMT)

Let's put it this way. India have never dominated in the WI. Marginally winning a series does deserve a superlative. They have a bunch of good lads I must admit, marshaled by a very shrewd capt.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 23:51 GMT)

The article correctly points out: "The last time India won a world title, they had Sachin Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh and Zaheer Khan in the line-up..."

Nice to see that these seven and Harbhajan are finally given "proper rest", with their consent or not. With all my gratitude and due respect to their great contributions in the past. If you also add Ganguly, Dravid, VVS, & Kumble ... it makes a super veterans' team of 12. If there is a world contest for cricketers of the last decade, that will be my team to play for India. Not for the future! The team which played CT along guys like Pujara are my bets for the future. Well done, the new bunch of Indian selectors!

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 23:32 GMT)

@Punjabi Munda. Complacency, especially after a great win had been an old disease for India. Hope,they got rid of that virus now!

Posted by SL_Boy on (June 27, 2013, 19:10 GMT)

Out of form Ajanth Mendis is better than current SL spiners

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

I still feel that Yuvraj should have made it for Playing X1.

Posted by Cricfan_99 on (June 27, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

@ Godfrey Pieters - IND never that good in the WI? small correction mate - we've won the last 3 series in the Wi against WI - so i'm not sure what yardstick you're using to gauge India's performance..what is your point?

Posted by maddy20 on (June 27, 2013, 16:27 GMT)

@ SLGirl Every great journey begins with a tiny step. It is good to see that India is looking to build on their success instead of sending a 2nd or third choice team. SL and WI are mercurial opponents who can be very dangerous on their day and utterly insipid on another day. It should make for an interesting contest.

Posted by cricmohit on (June 27, 2013, 16:08 GMT)

Yet another pointless ODI series .India have nothing to gain from this series except injuries.The viewers will not be interested in another meaningless series.There are so many of these nowadays.The cricket boards and especially ICC must focus on improving the quality of cricket.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

@ Gary Rubbas Harris on (June 27, 2013, 14:57 GMT) Fully agree with you. It is high time for West Indies to look into the future and start building a young talented team with fire in the belly -- not once in a while; but all the time!

Posted by android_user on (June 27, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

india are favorites after winning ct2013. they already defeated sl and wi by massive margins in ct2013. this series cud be one sided affair if india play to their full potential.

Posted by rsgarcia on (June 27, 2013, 15:57 GMT)

To those complaining about India having to play Sri Lanka again, we did initially try to get Pakistan, but they pulled out for some reason. West Indians are very happy to have two strong teams come though. We haven't played either of them for some time and will relish the opportunity to gain some much needed experience. It is our home series this year, so please don't think it's always about what the Indian viewers want--we count too! I think you'll be surprised how big the interest in these games will be, particularly in my home country of Trinidad. We haven't had the opportunity to see big international players from India and Sri Lanka for years. Only wish Sachin and Dilshan were coming.

Posted by IndianCoolGuy on (June 27, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

@ orangtan : You are absolutely right mate, SL has come to semis in CT only because of luck, otherwise they would have settled with the last position in Group-A. SL Lost against NZ which was the weakest team in the tournament, Won against England batting second on a deadly flat-track, even Kula has made a 50+ means we should understand how flat that track was, and Aus just was playing for semis spot. They did not care about just winning the match, otherwise they could have easily won it. and in Semis, with India, they have lost with 8wickets, and 90 balls to spare. They could not even gave minimum competition. on WI flat tracks, SL will be definitely struggling. They should try to win at least one match against WI, because against India they cannot win. All the best SL.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 15:02 GMT)

What are they (the three teams) playing for; in the midst of such heavy schedules, and potential for serious injury from over work? Whose brilliant idea is this tournament?

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

I wonder why people keep saying Gayle, Pollard etc have the firepower to crush any team? These are guys are not consistent enough to attain this especially Pollard. We need to stop looking on the paper and names and develop the team to a point where they will think, access the situation and then respond. This hit them out of the park strategy does not work most times and instead use a whole team approach. I support the WI team 100% win, lose or draw but we have to start getting more ugly wins and less exciting losses. Cant see why Chanderpaul is not a part of the set up but i see that he is in twilight of his career and we have to develop players to succeed and we have to do the same when Gayle gets to that stage as well. Grooming is way to go now. So i would say, don't just say you are going to win this series but even if you don't get something really tangible out of it. Let see some other players really come through now.

Posted by Venkat_Gowrishankar on (June 27, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

My Fav 2 teams are in action, WI and India. It is going to be a good series. I seriously hope that Windies prepare some fast bouncy tracks and have 3 quicks in roach, best and Rmpaul. That would be an absolutely fascinating contest against the likes if S Dhawan and Kholi who are in red hot form. Mind you, Carribean wickets are very tricky , you never know what to expect, either a run way( hard and Bouncy ) or a sand pit. Overall, Cricket in the carribean makes for a good viewer experience. Anyways, best of luck to all the teams.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

think this the first series where I as a fan would not be disappointed if India looses the series or does not make it to the final as long as the youngsters perform well and some new players are tried out who work hard for the team and excite us fans.... to be honest these series have not value. tri-nation tournaments like these are losing value which is sad considering we fans have a lot of good memories of the Indian teams in the past that featured in tri-nation tournaments...

Posted by Thomas_Ratnam on (June 27, 2013, 14:42 GMT)

The Indian transition from seniors is great. Sri Lanka cricket is distinctly different. They always dealt with a very shallow pool of players but come up with some great cricketers. They will always be somewhere in the middle or near the top but can never reach the pinnacle like India or Australia. They will have to develop a larger player base and have a more robust domestic first class system. Until then they will be the bridesmaids.

Posted by SLMaster on (June 27, 2013, 14:40 GMT)

India is banking for high hopes because of one great win and stating that they have greatest players. Watchout none expcet Dhoni in the current team is in the calibre of Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj and Zaheer.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

Even though our opening partnership was good, Rohit needs improvement...as he is the replacement for tendulkar / sehwag ,, he has to make some huge match winning demolishing innings..... otherwise its better to bring sehwag /gambhir

Posted by couchpundit on (June 27, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

Indian Squad that won Champions trophy is kind of Watered Down squad. If not sehwag, Gambhir still had lot of international cricket to play. You can defenitely expect Sehwag to impose himself back to international cricket sooner or later...he is better of doing laser surgery to eyes(if he hadnt done it already).

I hope zaheer khan will be back in the mix provided he is fit, no one wants him to see break down in his first spell of a series/tournament. Young pace bowlers in india has lot to learn from him particularly bowling with old ball. As for this series i wish all fringe players in the squad gets opportunity. Please drop Rohit Sharma...guy is not performing..pls check his score in CT2013...he is not a new talent anymore...and after 7 years since his debut guy does not know to score half century consistently...out of 7 matches in england this summer only two 50+ score(when the pitch was concrete like and poor bowling by opposition)..didnt even cross 10 runs in semi and final's

Posted by tanstell87 on (June 27, 2013, 14:15 GMT)

Indian fan here....Sri Lanka should have selected youngsters for this tri-series just like India did....time has come for Sri Lanka to think beyond Dilshan,Mahela & Sanga....open with Kushal & Tharanga, Thirimanne at 3, Mathews should bat at 4, Chandimal at 5, Sri Lanka doesnt have upcoming batting talent or they are ignoring them for expirience for 2015 World Cup....Malinga should have been rested for this series...he has been playing continuous cricket...selecters could have tried a different paceman...where have Thushara & Welegedara disappeared ?

Posted by India_Rule on (June 27, 2013, 14:08 GMT)

'The last time India won a world title, they had Sachin Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh and Zaheer Khan in the line-up', pretty sure the champions trophy is a world title, no?

Posted by tanstell87 on (June 27, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

@Godfrey Pieters - India not good in WI realy they have won bi-lateral ODI series in 2002, 2009 & 2011....just lost 1 ODI series in 2006 against Brian Lara led spirited Windies team...

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

When it's all said and done, this series will make interesting viewing. I can't see why WI can't pull this off. India is never that good in the WI, and this time will be no different. How DJ manages his Boyz will be important.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 13:25 GMT)

Dhoni is the oldest person in this team and face it, he's not getting younger. Suresh Raina i think is not a good choice for the captaincy. Bring Virat as captian, DK as keeper and Bhuvi as specalist bowler. Mishra did very well agoainst the WI the last time India came so BRING HIM IN. He can acctually do something. Either drop Aswin, Jedeja or a pacer. Spinners can work. SL is in a weak position and should have played the test series. WI need the practice.

Posted by TrexTrainer on (June 27, 2013, 13:15 GMT)

It's easier to be in form when you aren't pushing yourself. Let's see how these youngsters hold up under a heavy schedule and constant grind.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

this series could be very good. I think Gayle, Charles, Samuels, bravos and pollard have the batting fire power to crush any team. but it seems like confidence goes out the window when these guys are back in the west indies team. especially Chris Gayle! he needs to be dropped if he does not make runs in the first game its getting ridiculous now. the team need a new good fast bowler can't the selectors see that the current bowling unite is too weak try something different.

Posted by Vishal_07 on (June 27, 2013, 12:46 GMT)

India's squad is "watered down" in the sense that youngsters are being given an opportunity. Also it would be wise to not put pressure on this young Indian team by comparing them again and again to the WC winning squad. Let these guys have fun, I am sure there will be harder times ahead. Get a page from Dhoni's book, not too high not too low, keep it together.

Posted by naren1983 on (June 27, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

India are the most invited team in the world now to increase the support of cricket in countries from WI to Zim. This will be a great opportunity for players who started to grow in recent Indian team like Dinesh Karthik, Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Ravindra Jadeja and Raina to get back into form. Dhoni & Kohli can support them by putting other batsmen up the order. For sure, Dhoni will give some chances to RJ to bat up the order. This is the time to test it. And in ZIM series, may be Rohit may take the lead as he recently lead his IPL team to Victory. But I still prefer its time for groom Pujara in the team as he is going to be an another Virat Kohli, not much as his strike rate, I can say the consistency & reliability. Next WC 2015 is ours.

Posted by MH19 on (June 27, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

Sri Lankan needs to now pull their socks before its too late. Kusal/Mahela/Chandimal/Sanga/Thirimanna/Mathews (Thisara missing)/Kula Malinga/Eranga is good no reason to drop him/Herath/Mendis

Posted by orangtan on (June 27, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

@Mahesh Wijasekara you are quite right, the acid Test for the much-vaunted young brigade of Indians will be their ability to play well on fast, bouncy tracks and I hope these will be provided in the Caribbean. Let's face it, the Indians were lucky with the toss in the Champions Trophy, batting first on a sunny day against South Africa, and batting second in their second and third league matches as well as in the semi-final.If the final had been a 50-over affair, the Indians would have been tested by Anderson & Co,, but again the weather came to their aid.

Posted by KingOwl on (June 27, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

Abhishek: I do not like the tests being cancelled either. In fact most cricket fans in SL didn't like it at the time. But there is a context. India is there to generate the money, as everybody knows. More importantly, at a pragmatic level, it is incorrect to think that this is about 'testicide'. On the contrary, if the money is gone, these boards (SL and WI) will go bust. Then it will not be just 'testicide' it will be worse. It will be 'cricketicide'. So, ironically, these one day series will save test cricket in the long run. And let's also not get carried away by the relative strengths of the teams. India is certainly doing well right now. Just a few months ago, they had hit rock bottom. SL have been one of the best limited over teams over the last decade (excluding the masala tournaments, which skew the rankings). WI is an unpredictable team who can beat anybody. So, it will be a good context. I just hope for sporting wickets.

Posted by Subodha_Charles on (June 27, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

Pathetic article. It's true that it is unacceptable to cancel the test matches. WICB & SLC should take the blame for that. But when it comes to the author saying SL not letting the transition happen, take out Mahela, Sanga and Dilly. Look what is left. Isn't that the future of SL cricket. SL may not have had the same success as India did with youngsters. One Jayasuriya was enough in the 96 era. History will repeat itself. definitely.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 10:11 GMT)

i know india has played srilanka many times in the recent past, i know india need to give some rest after winning ICC-CT, i know test games are being played less..

But., im still looking forward to this tri-nation series., bcoz, being the winners of ICC-CT, the responsibility of winning some more games is going to be a challenging task, also india is in great form hopefully they can continue, also i never get bored of cricket. I wish India good luck to this series.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 10:03 GMT)

with seeing all of comments by cricinfo readers, I think WICB must be prepared extreme fast and bounce tracks for the tri series. if they achieved that then we could see more interesting series than flat tracks comedy. I don't think even in champions trophy, India was properly tested in seaming and bouncing conditions. most of the pitches they had during the series was quite similar to sub-continental pitches (boring flat tracks - normally bowlers got hammered). we love cricket but if we see every batsmen get free hundreds in every match what the purpose of watching cricket. ultimately we want to see absolute cricket which, featuring good contest between bat and ball. everybody praising dominance of Indian younger generation, likes kohli, dhawan ........ but I think they have to prove a lot, in terms of skills required for batting in seaming and bouncy bowler friendly conditions, with genuine pace attacks.

Posted by Surajrises on (June 27, 2013, 10:01 GMT)

@SNIFFLEATHER Do you really think that the Indian team after a tour of England, would have been in a position to stand on the field(Batting, Bowling & Fielding) for 5 days? It still would have been a punishment. How many games will Raina play without taking rest? Now even Kohli has become a regular player to play in every series so y can't we just rest them? Like the Zimbabwe tour, this tour could also been done and dusted with younger players who would have got good exposure and we could have rested our senior players. I mean this is ridiculous. No one is seeing it from a long term perspective but seeing as a Test Series washed out due to ODIs. There wasn't any need of Cricket between these 3 nations right now straight away after the tour of England for Champions Trophy. Only god or BCCI knows what they think and strategize behind those close doors!

Posted by Hassan_U on (June 27, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

@malepas.....that will never happen. As Wasim was asked number of times how did you rate Tendulkar and his reply was I don't as I only played few tests against him.

Posted by Prema1948 on (June 27, 2013, 9:49 GMT)

special in their batting performances in the Ch.Trophy, because when a player is given such a vast No of opportunities (500-600) it is quite natural for them to play well at the end of their careers; e.g. Imran Khan , Kapil Dev & Richard Hadlee had originally come into those respective Teams as bowlers but by the time they got retired, they have earned names as dependable batters. That is what confidence would do to a player that doesn't have fear of losing his position.The right thing that,the authorities should do is to absorb the brilliant promising Sch'boy Cricketers that come out of School with flying colours into the Team, at regular basis by dropping veterans at the right Time and also not entertaining average players. Those that haven't maintained any form consistency as youngsters have always found it is hard to do it when they are in their prime as well. It has been proved by many babes that have been brought into the Team, from time to time, by the J&Ps of last 2 decades.

Posted by Prema1948 on (June 27, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

This is to fans that try to find fault with M'hews,C'mal & T'manne, I want you to check(in Cricinfo), how these 3 overhyped veterans had performed when they were in their mid-20s as middle-order batters. For your easy reference I give ODI stats of most overrated player in SLan Side (KS)for the period between, 15 Dec 2001 to &7 Jul 2002; No of Ings played 28 , 2 not outs, Aggregate 377, Ave 14.50(Better Check).These performances were quite immaterial to the J&Ks of last 2 decades and their place have been kept permanent even if there were far better batters. One of the 3 were dropped for the Tours of Zi'wae Nov 2008 and B'desh Jan 2009 for his poor batting record as a middle-order batter, but he came back into the Team somehow. The other's batting (600 odd 1st Cl Inns)Ave of 33+(compare Aves of top class players like Ten'kar, Kholi's, Trotts, Dhoni, Amla, DeViliers,..) is more than enough to judge whether he is qualified enough to occupy No 4 position. There is nothing2B CNTD

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

i said in the #CT13 semi final and so repeating that. oh rain gods please save us from SL please. don't worry about win or loss washouts is the way to go. will look forward to watching SL vs WI and WI vs Ind

Posted by soumyas on (June 27, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

Another question is are westindian pitches are dry and slow enough to play for indians ? If not, tournament is going to fail.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

Lots of rain in Kingston, Port of Spain so the Indians can get some rest in the Carribean at the expense of BCCI

Posted by VVSR92 on (June 27, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

please hope for matches vs srilanka to be rained out

Posted by soumyas on (June 27, 2013, 9:12 GMT)

being champions in ODI just few days back, one needs to give some respect to the title by taking some rest and keeping the title safe, st least 2 months. If they play so early and loose to westindies or srilanka, what is the use of winning the champions trophy? how can one call Indians as champions ? the meaning of the title "champions" is lost. Or if they keep winning against srilanka,westindies it will be boring to watch as it happened with Australia in the past decade.

Posted by Surajrises on (June 27, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

BCCI is punishing our players by sending them to such meaningless series. We need to preserve elder players like Dhoni who is now 31 and is not getting any younger. When we know that his lower back is problematic then y make him captain and play another tour? Look at what's happening to Michael Clarke now! If we need Dhoni's services till at least 2015 World Cup to defend and win the trophy then BCCI should stop sending him to such meaningless series. I m so sure that the Lankans are further going to lose to us in this series because we know this side very well. Our only problem could be Windies because our stats against them in Caribbean isn't that great. BCCI seriously needs to rethink their strategy in preserving our senior players.

Posted by malepas on (June 27, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

The word Boring-Boring deafening the ears,,how shambolic is this that WICB agreed to staged this meaningless ODI tri-series to replace 2 test series against Srilanka and Pakistan,,what kind of mindset is this??,lots of people are saying that this is BCCI once again to disrupt A PAKISTAN propective series against a third country,,I don't personally believe in this but there are some good evidence for it, who want to see more Ind-Sri ODI matches for God sake'' we need more test cricket not to mention WI ranking in tests is awefull, may be they thinking off giving up Test status all together. Ind should play Pak a full test series outside India so we know how good Ind have become::

Posted by SNIFFLEATHER on (June 27, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

This is something we don't need - I honestly couldn't care less about this tri-series. It is a great shame that once again, test matches are swept aside by the shorter format.

Posted by jaison_cricfan on (June 27, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

yes.. i agree with most of you all.. india and sri lanka.. again ? Come on !! .. have u ICC forgot the law of diminishing marginal utility ?? . People gonna get bored to see the same teams fight it out..

In my opinion, in case of tri-series , the third country should be an associate or affiliate country.. it brings much difference to game.. and also beneficial to Associate teams.. well..it can happen only.. if the full member teams are afraid to lose to Associate teams.

Posted by SushantSrivastava on (June 27, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Looks like we need to plead to ICC to exempt the viewers from India-SriLanka clash..My God its so boring now to see both these teams again & again..

Posted by Lightsaber on (June 27, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

the way no of ind- sl matches are going on kohli might end odi career with avg 99.94.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

I only see the difference is IND bowlers bowled well at CT2013, which is the main reason IND won. Batsmen didn't do extraordinary things in compare to previous batting lineup.Say 2003 worldcup, if bowlers could bowled better in the final India should won.So if you praise then praise bowlers first then the batsmen. What dhawan & rohit did was happen so many times before except the bowling delivers like this time.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (June 27, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

Yet another meaningless ODI series with SL. @Satwant Singh agree with you 100%.

Posted by Hassan_U on (June 27, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

@TNAmarkFromIndia Why not play a Test series or like the past BCCI going to wait till Ajmal retires like they did with Wasim & Waqar and then bring the idea of test series !!! Politics at it best ¬)

Posted by venkatesh018 on (June 27, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

Testicide- I suspect we are going to use a lot more of this term in the future.

Posted by Captainman on (June 27, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

They just had an ICC Champions Trophy. This reminds me of some sort of mini trophy if I'm honest. Again more India-Sri Lanka matches? far too many in the last 5 years but it just shows how unpopular Cricket is :)

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 8:09 GMT)

This series has lost its importance.India and SL has played so many games against each other that any surprise element is absent. I think every test playing nation should be forced to play some number of tests and they should complete playing with each test playing nation in 2 years.T20 world cup and Champions trophy can we eliminated from the schedules. Its waste of time.

Posted by vinodkd99 on (June 27, 2013, 7:45 GMT)

@ AjitDJ : Day Night matches would have started at about 1.00 am IST. That would have meant that about 20 overs would have been bowled even in 2nd innings in case you are going to get up at 6.30 am in India. Would that have been OK.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 7:31 GMT)

the only logical reason for this scheduling this series seems like a way BCCI is trying to help the boards like WI and SL to make some money, same with zim series after this. paying back the other boards for the precious votes recently for FICA. anyways should be some good cricket on the view as well

Posted by pvwadekar on (June 27, 2013, 7:18 GMT)

This tournament along with the one in Zimbabwe is an opportunity for the selectors to give the youngsters some more chances. We always have had the batting talent and depth. Now what we need to have a pool of fast bowlers, so selection of Shammi Ahmed is a step along the right direction, but we need some others with express pace like Varun Aaron. Imagine a battery of fast bowlers like Ishant Sharma, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Umesh Yadav, Shammi Ahmed, Varun Aaron,Irfan Pathan.

Posted by PeterJerome on (June 27, 2013, 7:03 GMT)

@ Raja J:That was the Australian Test team mate. Still long way to go for Ind. Even SL will beat us hands down in a test match. The test with test is the ultimate test.

Posted by TNAmarkFromIndia on (June 27, 2013, 7:03 GMT)

The constant India-Sri Lanka series are getting incredibly boring. Maybe India should rope in Pakistan for more overseas bilateral and trilateral series so that hopefully we can close in the large gap between India and Pakistan's head-to-head record in ODIs.

Posted by gsamiru on (June 27, 2013, 6:59 GMT)

Most of the people are talking about resting Sanga and Mahela for SL allowing youngsters to come in. But in my perspective they should be in the team to at least guide Mathives in the right direction. Through out CT Mathives was very much a sleepy captain with very little aggression. He got a little sense on field placings or required blowing changes. So there should be someone experienced to guild Mathives until he becomes a proper captain. But one thing is sure, there won't be any Ranathunga or Mahela type Captains in this Sri Lankan team any more..... !

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 6:52 GMT)

This is such a waste of a series.. How many times should India and Sri Lanka play each other and how many times should the Lankans lose to us without putting up any fight at all! This has become so monotonous! More than that, doesn't BCCI care about players fatigue at all??? They have just won a hard fought Champions Trophy and have been already sent for an international tour to Windies! Ridiculous! How much more Cricket does BCCI wants to bombard on these players? They too need rest and they too have families!

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 6:43 GMT)

This would have been better as a 3 way Test Championship and that's a fact. Indian team have shown great play in the ODI arena.

Posted by palla.avinash on (June 27, 2013, 6:34 GMT)

i am expecting good pitches so there is a competition between bat and ball.

Posted by ooper_cut on (June 27, 2013, 6:14 GMT)

SL needs to rest the seniors and blood youngsters into their team. This is the kind of series that they can give the youngsters a chance and see how they fit in. And someone please give that guy Thirimanne a consistent place in the top 4, I dont see anyone better than him at the moment. As for the skipper, SL should look for a new one, one that will command his place in the team by sheer weight of his performances. Guess Mathews has a big clout in the SL board, he does not seem to be International material at all.

Posted by AjitDJ on (June 27, 2013, 6:06 GMT)

Who is going to stay up till 3.30am in the morning watching these matches?! Should have scheduled these as day-night matches. Then they'd have started around early morning, and more Indian viewers would have been able to watch these.

Posted by dganger on (June 27, 2013, 6:05 GMT)

Its really hard to digest India flying all over to West-Indies just to play ODI's. With no test match scheduled it is an another eye opener how much effort ICC is taking to preserve this greatest form of game, giving in to the pressure from the boards and of course broadcaster. ODI's and T20's are far better value propositions for the broadcaster to sell off their inventory at good rates. e.g In India , a ODI's matches involving INDIA gets sold at avg rate of 2.25 Lacs to 3 lacs per 10 secs, t20's anywhere in the range of 3.25 lacs to 4.5 lacs whereas in test, broadcaster do well to sell even 60 % of their inventory at a rate of 40k to 75K, max 1.25 k, if it is really high profile test match. This just shows the economy that driving this meaning less ODI series.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 6:01 GMT)

Still one change is possible in this squad...UV in place of Raina.He is just becoming horrible and horrible in terms of playing short balls and fear of which is leading him to anticipate it so much that he is hetting out even on lollypops.If yuvraj isn't the same guy who won the WC for us then neither Raina is the same hard hitting fearless batsman anymore.UV on the other hand is a better bowler then Raina and a powerful hooker of the short ball.Whatever UV's technical short coming are I am sure they aren't more than Raina and you can't reject UV on the basis of old senior tag just because he his playing from a long period of time as he is still younger than Dhoni

Posted by arup_g on (June 27, 2013, 6:00 GMT)

This is quite an interesting tournament...2 new captains in Bravo and Matthews, and a young team in India. India will clearly go in as favorites due to their recent Champions Trophy win, but also on the fact they have the better players. The India and Sri Lanka matches will be boring. They stop playing for 2 years so that when they do play, people are actually interested in their games!! It also might be a good chance to see what our bench strength is like with the likes of Vijay, Mishra and Vinay Kumar. It's clear what our strongest XI is, but still think it can be improved in the bowling department. Ashwin and Jadeja should be magic on the slow West Indies pitches.

Posted by   on (June 27, 2013, 5:41 GMT)

Indian current team can't beatable , once upon a time when AUS was great they played against INTL 11, now time for India vs INTL 11

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Tournament Results
India v Sri Lanka at Port of Spain - Jul 11, 2013
India won by 1 wicket (with 2 balls remaining)
India v Sri Lanka at Port of Spain - Jul 9, 2013
India won by 81 runs (D/L method)
West Indies v Sri Lanka at Port of Spain - Jul 7-8, 2013
Sri Lanka won by 39 runs (D/L method)
West Indies v India at Port of Spain - Jul 5, 2013
India won by 102 runs (D/L method)
India v Sri Lanka at Kingston - Jul 2, 2013
Sri Lanka won by 161 runs
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