Pakistan in West Indies 2013 April 29, 2013

No Caribbean Tests for Pakistan

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Pakistan's tour of the West Indies this year will comprise five ODIs and two Twenty20 internationals but no Tests, because of the difficulty in finding a window for a full tour. The dates for the tour have not yet been finalised.

"The Pakistan issue, it's fair to say that we haven't completely concluded negotiations or the final dates, but we're confident that will be done shortly," WICB chief executive Michael Muirhead said in Port-of-Spain. "It won't be a Test series anymore; we're going to be focussing on five ODIs and two T20s. We have just not finalised with Pakistan, them signing off on the schedule we have been provided."

The WICB president Dave Cameron said he was not happy about the absence of Tests but there was little that could be done. "I don't think we are satisfied," Cameron said. "But circumstances have dictated for this year that that's what we're able to put in, and hopefully we're going to able to build on that next year."

Pakistan were originally scheduled to play two Tests, five ODIs and two Twenty20s in the Caribbean in June and July, but West Indies planned a tri-series involving India and Sri Lanka, which shortened the window. The WICB had asked the PCB if their tour could be rescheduled to August. That, however, interfered with Pakistan's plan to host India and to play out the Zimbabwe series that was postponed last year.

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  • amumtaz on April 30, 2013, 19:22 GMT

    PCB needs to plan Test tours with more care. They should start finalizing iternaries well in advance and not haggle over a few T20s or ODIs over some quality Test Cricket.

    Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman and Mohammad Hafeez are some of the finest spin bowlers of our times. And it is really appalling to see Pakistan play a handful of Tests each year. With none of them able to show their best on all sorts of wickets in their prime.

    The batting technique of most our batsmen is also questionable as none of them (barring Misbah) have the patience to stay at the wicket for long. More Tests with competitive nations can only help boost the confidence of our batsmen and for Saeed et al to win us many more matches.

  • on May 3, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    Well said Yoadie, there seems to be less and less test cricket these days and you point about the food vendors is a good one as it would allow people to come together and have a feed whilst watching the cricket.

  • yoadie on May 2, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    The proposed Caribbean tour by Pakistan, is a real tragedy. First, as elicited in other comments, the West Indies are in dire need of playing more Test cricket. Secondly, spare a thought for the food vendors who were looking forward to making a little money at the Tests, by parading their cooking, into which they put heart and soul. Lastly, buiding friendships and re-establishing family ties, are to visitors, what Test match cricket, especially in the Caribbean, is all about. The burgeoning popularity of the shorter formats of the game, is doing West Indies no favors. Much less with a new WICB administration whose primary stated purpose is to, (quote): "Make cricket, the Caribbean's biggest money earner."

  • degiant on May 2, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    It's hard not to have test matches, but you guys that are complaining do any of you pay to see a test match ? Look WI need money and in the shorter games they can make money, so that is that.

  • on May 2, 2013, 5:02 GMT

    Host India???? As if they are going to come and they have a very clear policy of not playing on neutral venus. This possibly means, no tests with India and no tests with WI. I hope PCB is not so dumn that they cancelled the WI tests without confirming with India if they will tour or not. I hope that is not the case. Otherwise they could just play WI tests in August.

  • BRUTALANALYST on May 1, 2013, 3:05 GMT

    Really disappointing for Test cricket and the International game, both these sides are well balance and full of incredibly exciting talent it would of made for a thrilling contest !

  • on May 1, 2013, 1:02 GMT

    Surely 2 tests would be better than 5 one dayers, it would only take a little longer to complete and the cricket would be better to watch.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on April 30, 2013, 19:40 GMT

    Rather scrap the lot. I would prefer the players have a rest, or even a training camp, anything but a load more limited overs rubbish. Way too much of that on the calendar without adding more.

  • UsmanAkbar on April 30, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Strange!!! I believe 2 tests and 3 ODIs series would have benefited all. Strange stance by Windies Board.

  • imsaiarasan23 on April 30, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    Sad that both West Indies and Pakistan which are in need of Test Matches have scrapped the matches and instead hosting meaningless T20s which are already in excess.. Would prefer Chris Gayle in whites than maroon..

  • amumtaz on April 30, 2013, 19:22 GMT

    PCB needs to plan Test tours with more care. They should start finalizing iternaries well in advance and not haggle over a few T20s or ODIs over some quality Test Cricket.

    Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rehman and Mohammad Hafeez are some of the finest spin bowlers of our times. And it is really appalling to see Pakistan play a handful of Tests each year. With none of them able to show their best on all sorts of wickets in their prime.

    The batting technique of most our batsmen is also questionable as none of them (barring Misbah) have the patience to stay at the wicket for long. More Tests with competitive nations can only help boost the confidence of our batsmen and for Saeed et al to win us many more matches.

  • on May 3, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    Well said Yoadie, there seems to be less and less test cricket these days and you point about the food vendors is a good one as it would allow people to come together and have a feed whilst watching the cricket.

  • yoadie on May 2, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    The proposed Caribbean tour by Pakistan, is a real tragedy. First, as elicited in other comments, the West Indies are in dire need of playing more Test cricket. Secondly, spare a thought for the food vendors who were looking forward to making a little money at the Tests, by parading their cooking, into which they put heart and soul. Lastly, buiding friendships and re-establishing family ties, are to visitors, what Test match cricket, especially in the Caribbean, is all about. The burgeoning popularity of the shorter formats of the game, is doing West Indies no favors. Much less with a new WICB administration whose primary stated purpose is to, (quote): "Make cricket, the Caribbean's biggest money earner."

  • degiant on May 2, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    It's hard not to have test matches, but you guys that are complaining do any of you pay to see a test match ? Look WI need money and in the shorter games they can make money, so that is that.

  • on May 2, 2013, 5:02 GMT

    Host India???? As if they are going to come and they have a very clear policy of not playing on neutral venus. This possibly means, no tests with India and no tests with WI. I hope PCB is not so dumn that they cancelled the WI tests without confirming with India if they will tour or not. I hope that is not the case. Otherwise they could just play WI tests in August.

  • BRUTALANALYST on May 1, 2013, 3:05 GMT

    Really disappointing for Test cricket and the International game, both these sides are well balance and full of incredibly exciting talent it would of made for a thrilling contest !

  • on May 1, 2013, 1:02 GMT

    Surely 2 tests would be better than 5 one dayers, it would only take a little longer to complete and the cricket would be better to watch.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on April 30, 2013, 19:40 GMT

    Rather scrap the lot. I would prefer the players have a rest, or even a training camp, anything but a load more limited overs rubbish. Way too much of that on the calendar without adding more.

  • UsmanAkbar on April 30, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Strange!!! I believe 2 tests and 3 ODIs series would have benefited all. Strange stance by Windies Board.

  • imsaiarasan23 on April 30, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    Sad that both West Indies and Pakistan which are in need of Test Matches have scrapped the matches and instead hosting meaningless T20s which are already in excess.. Would prefer Chris Gayle in whites than maroon..

  • getsetgopk on April 30, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    WIC has gone the chris gayle mode, their players are in india for most of the time and when they are not there, they are playing ODI's and T20's all year round, sums up westindian cricket.

  • Nisargorsi on April 30, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    west indies cricket board declined test series because they planned a oneday tri series against india nd srilanka thats realy not good for both the teams specially for pakistan becoz they already been shortened in test in last couple of years nd again going to miss a test series ..it could be a good opportunity for pak to win a test series there because pak has never won a test series in west indies so disoppointed..

  • on April 30, 2013, 7:44 GMT

    Pak is batting weak not strong good. pak is bowling good. WI is june next come pakistan cricket two test and two t20i and five ODI ok try. ICC is next june

  • venkatesh018 on April 30, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    Make it 3 Odis and 3 T20s.

  • Crick_Expert on April 30, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    PAK batting so weak, they need to play more test series. Mr tuktuk should leave ODI/T20 and do practice in test matches.

  • johnathonjosephs on April 30, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    This attitude of West Indies Cricket Board is really getting out of hand. Dropping a Test Series against Sri Lanka for a ODI tri series and now not playing Tests with Pakistan? The youngest president of WICB in history is really not doing a good job

  • on April 30, 2013, 4:02 GMT

    This tournament should not take place. No point. Better of both teams allowing their international players to participate in domestic first class competitions or even rest, as they already have busy schedules. These ODI's and T20's will count for nothing. They aren't even qualifiers for the world cup or champions trophy - 100% pointless except to raise revenue. The more and more we have of these meaningless matches, the more the novelty factor will die and crowds will wane in these too. International cricket should be a novelty event where crowds flood the gates, not an everyday occurrence.

  • Lakpj on April 30, 2013, 3:56 GMT

    Hard to understand what WI are trying. they cancelled the tests with SL for a triangular and now this. Both SL and Pak are not a superpower in tests like Eng or SA. so it would have been 2 really keenly contested series.

  • Nightwing32 on April 30, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    Needs more test cricket. Lame T20 is lame. Man cricket is gonna be messed up if only 4 countries play tests most of the time.

  • TATTUs on April 30, 2013, 3:46 GMT

    there is absolutely no way that Pakistan are going to play, let alone host, India in near future.

  • on April 30, 2013, 3:34 GMT

    THe cricket administrators need to get their act together. Test playing nations play tests.Therefore, excuses are just not acceptable.Get to the negotiating table in a hurry. Ask ICC for help if necessary and let us have some much needed test cricket please..

  • 2.14istherunrate on April 29, 2013, 20:52 GMT

    WI need to decide where they want to be in 10 years. An Associate member of ICC or a leading Test nation. At the moment they are fast tracking to associate membership and need to act fast to reverse the slide. Two Tests this year and how many next ? And what will be the sad excuses. Of course they could meet Pak in 2 Tests instead of odi's amd t20. But all the same this is not happening concurrently with the first class season. IPL may fill individuals' pockets but does not serve international needs. It is rather like an overfed cuckoo taking over other country's nests. England get round it almost by having enough income to pay the price but WI do not. They need a solution fast and to make sure they have a realistic season with Tests all played within it. And they have to act now to make it happen. The IPL should no longer be allowed to interfere in other countries' well being.

  • on April 29, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    Pakistan Hosting INDIA in august... ?? Are u serious ?? :O :O

  • on April 29, 2013, 19:19 GMT

    Back at Sportscientist: Also good ideas. Question is: Why isn't there any real attempt by ICC to fix this problem, rather than watching as the interest for internation cricket goes down the toilet? Fans are confused by all of the formats, the constant rule changes and tinkering, and the seemingly pointless scheduling of redundant one day matches without proper rotation between nations. It becomes harder and harder to get excited about international cricket, and I can see that at some stage the fans will simply turn their backs on international cricket altogether (especially test cricket) in favor of T20. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS, as you and I have suggested, but something needs to happen soon, or test cricket will go back to being a quaint old nineteeth century sport between England and Australia at the Ashes. And it won't take long for the Aussies to get tired of that one also.

  • ThyrSaadam on April 29, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    "That, however, interfered with Pakistan's plan to host India" is all likeliness that series is not going to happen, so Pak is ready to sacrifice a sure series against WI for a series Vs India that in all likelyhood is not going to happen ?

  • on April 29, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    shock to mee realyyy....wanted to see pakistan playy and if they could win their first test series in W.I. but y they dont play tests 1st and put the odis and t20s for the next year...i think its time now for the ICC to take over the control for the tours or else make sure that every test playing nation play each other in min 2 and max three years....cricket cant b gud without test cricket...coz its the real test and the place to make the sportsman real toughhhh...!!!! bad administration decisionss...every now and then v see players talking of getting more test match practice...but admins are more thirsty about moneyy...t20s are a part of cricket nowww and should be kept to keep money in the game....y not have a window for leagues like IPL, BPL, BBL etc...

  • on April 29, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    This is disappointing. The last PAK-WI series was held back in 2011. They should find space for atleast a single test.

  • sabeeh89 on April 29, 2013, 17:50 GMT

    When are they announcing the dates? I need to schedule my vacation to go watch the matches.

  • borhans on April 29, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Pak should visit Bangladesh for test series .

  • on April 29, 2013, 17:36 GMT

    why not scrap two odi's and a t20 for atleast one test?

  • on April 29, 2013, 17:32 GMT

    Solution is Simple.. Make the Tri Series into Quadrangular... Ind vs Pak vs WI vs SL would be awesome... And let Pak n WI play a 2 test series.

  • Sportsscientist on April 29, 2013, 16:54 GMT

    Warren Mendes - fantastic idea......I do agree with your suggestion, but I fear many will not go for it. The problem is that like Rugby, there is a natural summer winter change with countries in different hemispheres - so one unilateral season especially for New Zealand, England/Ireland may not work ( i.e. risk of snow/rain). I suggested in another discussion having a test championship once every 4 years over a 12/18 month period where you have a structured programme, and the other 3 or 2 and a half years, you can have other events going on...this doesn't mean tests would not be played during this other period - but they would be marquee series, like the ashes, NZ-AUS, IND-PAK WI- SA etc..... I have more details, but can you see the basic idea?? just a thought

  • Anwar-Lara on April 29, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    PCB wants test cricket but unfortunately WICB could not find a window for that... shameful.

  • on April 29, 2013, 16:17 GMT

    The simple answer to fix international cricket is: HAVE A TEST SEASON, A ONE DAY SEASON AND A T20 SEASON. Like in tennis, where there is a grass court season and a clay season and a hard court season. This would create much more interest from the public, if an the team around the world were playing tests at the same time, and it would allow the specialists in each form to shine, to be rested, and to really be specialists. Pitches would be prepared differently, and the media could reason hype up the seasonal rivalries, just as they do with the Ashes. Domestic competitions like IPL and Big Bash would has less effect on test cricket this way, also, because they could go on all year, but only during an international T20 window would those players be required.

  • Stark62 on April 29, 2013, 15:22 GMT

    WHAT THE HECK!?!?!

    I don't want to see a meaningless ODI and T20 series!!

    I wanted to see Pak play 2 or 3 Tests instead.

    Anyway, Pak will win the ODI series with ease but the T20 series will fun to watch because these two are the best T20 sides in the world.

  • CricketFan1980 on April 29, 2013, 15:16 GMT

    To all the whiners about the Ind v SL series - WICB is not stupid to have a series if there are no monetary returns. Instead of having empty stadiums for a test series, it is prudent to generate revenue by conducting one day games. Someone suggested that the 50 over game be banished forever, with just the ICC tournaments. Then how will the loss from hosting the test series in empty stadiums be offset? Have test series where there is good audience for it. If not, it does not make sense to have it just for the sake of it. If the paying public really likes the test series, how to explain the very poor attendance to the test matches in most places other than England / Aus. Even in India, the stadiums are empty for test matches. So lets stop kidding ourselves. If there is market for test matches, it will be played where there is room for revenue - no doubt.

  • on April 29, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    Test cricket has already taken over by ODIs & T20i. It's a severe blow for the longer version of cricket. Both PCB and WICB should find a window for three tests in current season

  • king_kenie on April 29, 2013, 14:50 GMT

    This new WICB Administration is starting on the wrong foot... Cameron had my vote just because Hunte was that bad but it seems now that this is another YAP YAP YAP Small Island mentality Administration. WE WANT TEST CRICKET!!!! Thats your mandate Mr. administrator. now get it for us or step aside and let someone with competence do the job.

  • malepas on April 29, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    It is shocking to know that WICB has planned a meaningless ODI series in the middle of a planned full test series which was clearly marked to play at this time between Pak and WI, why destroying a potentially good test series for a useless ODI's?? No wonder WI is lurking at the bottom of test rankings and they don't seemed to be care about it. On PCB part,,planning a series against India going to be a fruitile effort as they gonna pull out at the last minute making some excuses,,mark my words, PCB shouldn't worried about playing against them and fill their space up as much they can,,then playing Zim??,,whats the point in it?? if that's come to it, then at least ask them to visit PAK so there could be some meanings to PAK, otherwise it is useless.,,VERY BAD DECISION.

  • on April 29, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    crazy crazy..REALLY crazy and ashamed of the decisions by BOTH the boards of NOT having a single Test match..Oh my Lord!!! please cut down on ODIs and schedule a healthy Test series..Thank you very much..

  • Morfi on April 29, 2013, 13:57 GMT

    This is shameful. These two teams have already had so little Test cricket of late, the boards should be ashamed of ruining any chance of a series. If they have a window for 2 T20s and 5ODIs why not have 3 Tests instead? Think about cricket for once!!

    And what of the WICB scheduling and India-SL tri series??? They think it is going to be fun?? Shame!

  • ahtasham.rvj on April 29, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    PCB have requested them (WICB) to arrange test also because PCB wanted to play more tests but it was WICB who didn't want to play test..so it is WICB decision

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    Pakistan is not getting enough test cricket. ICC needs to do their job properly to save test cricket. In my opinion, WICB hosting a triangular series involving SL and IND, they can make it 4 nation series involving Pak too and then accommodate atleast two test matches.

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:31 GMT

    This is great news; we really needed to free up some room to play ODIs between Sri Lanka & India. It's been, what, weeks since they last played each other?

    No longer are Series anticipated; the intervals between teams meeting are so short. Even Australia & England managed to screw up the Ashes - that most iconic of Series - by playing some meaningless ODIs last Northern Hemisphere summer. All so the board Admins could slip a nice check into the back pocket of their slacks.

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:27 GMT

    scrap the odis and the t20s have a three match test series.I will always watch test cricket infront of odis and t20s and no i am not 70 iam 22 years old

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    Shame, would have been very interesting to see Ajmal, Rehmann and Hafeez bowl on the Caribbean wickets. Surely 2 tests and 3 ODI's would have been much better!

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Hoping to have a full tour very soon.

  • on April 29, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    Ah that damned Tri series. Ruining everything. Does anyone even want anymore India v Sri Lanka matches?

    No one cares for random limited overs matches that happen. This is short term thinking by cricket administrators, caring only for getting money in their pockets in the short term rather than sustainability of the sport (and therefore their income) in the long run.

    Ah well, less Test cricket for the fans who love and support the game of cricket Who cares? What's important is that the administrators are pocketing a nice healthy amount of cash from those tv rights.

  • RaadQ on April 29, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Disappointing that T20 and ODI has been preferred over Test, really disappointing. I will not blame WICB or PCB, but infiltration of T20 into cricket. I am not against T20, but I believe ODI should be removed all-together after World Cup 2015. Or atleast events like Champions Trophy and Champions League T20. Anything but TEST cricket should be sacrificed!

  • wrenx on April 29, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Pakistan's best chance of a test series victory come to this. Boards should be ashamed.

  • Salobalay on April 29, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    5 ODI and 2 T20s but no tests! Awful decision by the 2 boards

  • Salobalay on April 29, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    5 ODI and 2 T20s but no tests! Awful decision by the 2 boards

  • wrenx on April 29, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Pakistan's best chance of a test series victory come to this. Boards should be ashamed.

  • RaadQ on April 29, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Disappointing that T20 and ODI has been preferred over Test, really disappointing. I will not blame WICB or PCB, but infiltration of T20 into cricket. I am not against T20, but I believe ODI should be removed all-together after World Cup 2015. Or atleast events like Champions Trophy and Champions League T20. Anything but TEST cricket should be sacrificed!

  • on April 29, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    Ah that damned Tri series. Ruining everything. Does anyone even want anymore India v Sri Lanka matches?

    No one cares for random limited overs matches that happen. This is short term thinking by cricket administrators, caring only for getting money in their pockets in the short term rather than sustainability of the sport (and therefore their income) in the long run.

    Ah well, less Test cricket for the fans who love and support the game of cricket Who cares? What's important is that the administrators are pocketing a nice healthy amount of cash from those tv rights.

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Hoping to have a full tour very soon.

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    Shame, would have been very interesting to see Ajmal, Rehmann and Hafeez bowl on the Caribbean wickets. Surely 2 tests and 3 ODI's would have been much better!

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:27 GMT

    scrap the odis and the t20s have a three match test series.I will always watch test cricket infront of odis and t20s and no i am not 70 iam 22 years old

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:31 GMT

    This is great news; we really needed to free up some room to play ODIs between Sri Lanka & India. It's been, what, weeks since they last played each other?

    No longer are Series anticipated; the intervals between teams meeting are so short. Even Australia & England managed to screw up the Ashes - that most iconic of Series - by playing some meaningless ODIs last Northern Hemisphere summer. All so the board Admins could slip a nice check into the back pocket of their slacks.

  • on April 29, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    Pakistan is not getting enough test cricket. ICC needs to do their job properly to save test cricket. In my opinion, WICB hosting a triangular series involving SL and IND, they can make it 4 nation series involving Pak too and then accommodate atleast two test matches.

  • ahtasham.rvj on April 29, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    PCB have requested them (WICB) to arrange test also because PCB wanted to play more tests but it was WICB who didn't want to play test..so it is WICB decision