ICC World Twenty20 2010

Corrie van Zyl calls for change in approach

Cricinfo staff

May 12, 2010

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Corrie van Zyl gives catching practice, India v South Africa, 2nd Test, Kolkata, 2nd day, February 15, 2010
Corrie van Zyl has said some "hard calls" could be made © Getty Images

Corrie van Zyl, the South Africa coach, has called for a change in the team's approach following its exit from the World Twenty20 and said "a few hard calls" could have to be made in order to achieve that. South Africa were beaten by England and Pakistan in the Super Eights stage of the tournament to crash out ahead of the semi-finals.

"We won't win the World Cup in 2011 if we continue like this. We'll have to change our approach," van Zyl told the Sport 24 website. "We cannot keep repeating the same errors and not make changes.

"I don't want to come down on individuals, but the time is right for change. We have to sit down and think about what is important to change and which players are the right ones to fit in with that change. If we need to make a few hard calls, it will be done."

Van Zyl pointed out there had been a failure in each of the three departments of the game, leading to South Africa's elimination. "We again could not cope with the pressure. The question has to be asked why we could not manage it and why it happens repeatedly," van Zyl said. "Is it our approach to batting, is it our general approach, or are we maybe too tentative? Those are the questions you need to ask yourself.

"We never reached the kind of form that allowed us to charge. If we performed well in one area, we performed poorly in another. As a team we did not perform well in all three disciplines (fielding, bowling and batting)."

Andrew Hudson, Cricket South Africa's newly-appointed convenor of selectors, has also called for a comprehensive review of the team's performance. "We need to find out exactly why they were so under par, and what can be done to improve the situation," Hudson was quoted as saying by the Sport 24 website.

"I imagine there will be a lot of sitting around and debating after the tour of the West Indies. We'll need input from everyone involved so that we can formulate a strategy for the future.

"We also need to develop a strategy for the World Cup in the sub-continent next year."

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Posted by   on (May 18, 2010, 11:04 GMT)

You have to be Aggressive to win t20.....that's what they aren't doing Sack Smith(he's not an amazing tactician)....I prefer AB as captain Force kallis to play freely(he's not done yet,trust me) Please have some mercy and remove Gibbs Duminy,Boucher should be also dropped

Posted by testcric4ever on (May 18, 2010, 5:11 GMT)

So SA didn't do well in the tournament. So they got beaten by Pakistan in t20, big deal! WI beat Inida, Zimbabwe beat Australia, so on and so on - it's easy for less talented teams to put up a showing over the course of 40 overs, but let's see them compete over 100 overs, or 5 days. I'm fairly certain that teams like Aus, India and SA would hand most teams in the world a cricketing lesson. Too much emphasis on the importance of 20/20...

Posted by sslapper on (May 14, 2010, 10:47 GMT)

I agree that the Proteas have choked in previous tournaments but to call this one a choke is pretty silly! The formula for a choke is...coming into a tournament as one of the favourites, performing like favourites, only to get knocked out in the semis or lose in the final. SA never looked like potentiall winners this time around...so definitely no choke. It was a simple case of a comprehensive tactical failure throughout...

Posted by babya on (May 14, 2010, 6:54 GMT)

i think jack should be removed from t20 squad..Also gibbs from 14 if he is struggling that bad..They should make AB as their captain for 2011 wc..graeme smith should play freely opening with loots bosman which can make dangerous pair in the wc..They should play jack in 50 over format at no 3 and remove him from t20..bosman,smith,jack,JP,AB,bouch,albie,botha,steyn,parnell,morne or van der merve..but in t20 they should get flair from pro 20..no point in playing jack gibbs at their ages now..I agree with corrie..Their attitude has been really low through out the t20...the good bowling line up too dint click well..they have to sit back and think for the proper approah in the global tourneys..

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 20:27 GMT)

I'm like a smoker quitting - keep finding myself back on cricinfo all the time when I have decided to give up cricket - hoping for these words "SA sack Smith"...this is not the news I want to see - only 6 days before the next game - come on selectors - give us our game back.

Posted by Nuxxy on (May 13, 2010, 16:06 GMT)

I don't understand people still pointing at Kallis. He outperformed Smith in all areas in all games, except against Afghanistan (he still scored more in that game). He played his role...he's there to anchor the innings. Smith was the one who didn't seem to understand his role. Kallis should be scoring at 120, his partner should be aiming for 150 whether he goes out or not. Colin Ingram should have been in the team. And wtf not using Rusty once? Or spinners at all, generally. Smith does not know how to use spin bowlers.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 14:06 GMT)

SA have made mistakes similar to India they played their 11 on reputation guys like Gibbs should be dropped because he s a power player who depends on hand eye co ordination and like Jayasuriya he has lost his ability with age.they play a guy like Duminy because he played one good innings of 164 against a weakened Aus bowling attack on a flat mcg wicket in 2008.that leaves u with three guyz AB,Smith and Kallis kallis plays too slowly at the begining putting pressure on morkell in the lower order . boucher as got to go atleast from t20 no wonder smith wanted keiswetter to comeback .the bowling was decent but one dimensional.

Posted by Katey on (May 13, 2010, 12:18 GMT)

If you tell a student he's useless, stupid, couldn't pass an exam if he had the paper in advance - then he'll fail the exam. If you tell a team they're hopeless chokers that will flop when when the heat's on - guess what ...

Posted by Kamrud on (May 13, 2010, 11:08 GMT)

What you need His a team to play like a team,do yourselfs a favour and have a look at how the Aussies train and and play and maybe you may learn the its all in the mind.The selector's,the coach and the captain should be fired. What cricket plan did they have? none because they thaught they had the best time on the park,in your dreams mate and you'll made South Africa proud!!!!!!

Posted by 9ST9 on (May 13, 2010, 10:04 GMT)

SA are just too rigid in their approach. It's almost like they're preprogrammed. Thats been their issue. To win a global tournament you need a bit of flair and a bit of innovation. SA don't have that. Another T20 specific problem is they leave it too late. IMO despite his consistency Kallis does a great damage during run chases by slowing the pace of the innings at the start. Even in the IPL he slowed down RCB during a run chase. The bowling is 1-dimensional- this was a problem SA had during the 2003 WC where teams like NZ and WI made mincemeat of their bowling.

Posted by ashy16in_ on (May 13, 2010, 7:11 GMT)

I think it is time for Herchelle Gibbs to call it quits in all forms of the game. He is no longer the imposing player he was a few years ago and he is only in the team because of his reputation.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 6:52 GMT)

SA started slowly in every match when they were chasing .they scored under 6 per over upto 10 overs,though they had wickets in hand against india, pakistan.as a result they had created a pressure on themself increasing required rate.finally one by one wicket fell and they lost.smith and kallis are the main guys for why they lost against india.both started slowly and when they were hitting ,reguired run rate was about 14 per over.i can't believe what type of game plan is this?

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 6:32 GMT)

Smith does not deserve to be on SA's 20/20 team either as player or captain. There is no point in trying to diss JP, while suggesting that AB should play...go back and compare AB's record in the last few 20/20 matches he's played...and a few good catches do not account for the bat.

South Africa need a sold captain who can rallly the entire team, and not cliques within it. That's what it's come down to...divided camps within the team.

JP needs to start focussing on himself...he knows what he can do. Ignore the negativity around him, especially coming from the captain.

H. Amla needs to be brought into the 20/20 team, along with Yusuf Abdulla.

Amla would be a great replacement as captain for Smith as well...he most more grounded.

Posted by We_Didnt_Start_the_Fire on (May 13, 2010, 3:35 GMT)

It should have been a walk in the park for SA, they are a far superior team in terms of talent than PAK, ENG and SL. It baffles me why they have Gibbs in the playing 11, he did not exactly set fire in the IPL either.Specialist like Rusty and Botha were not tried,I would go for Amla in the current form instead of Gibbs. JP is a one series wonder like many of the IPL stars (Ishant Sharma, Jadeja, K Pollad). I would love to see SA or NZ or WI win an ICC tournament, though I am an Indian supporter.

Comming to ringing in changes, they should be vary that the next WC is in 8 months and new leadership and other changes could back fire. They should probably participate in couple of triangular series with final's and get some winning experience esp in SL, PAK and IND.

Posted by Kaushalya_Gurudeniya on (May 13, 2010, 3:17 GMT)

Chane the captain first, not only in T20's but in ODI's too. SA continuously failing to respond well in those formats and lost in big occasions.

It seems that Smith is not a good skipper. Mainly he's not a fighter. You can see it when they are challenged.

The other thing is their batting. Like Indians are poor against pace bowling, SA continuously poor on spin and slower bowling. It's not a new issue. I've seen this over a long period of time. Whenever there are spinners in the opposition, SA will go down. They must do something for this too.

About T20, i think south africa still didn't understand the ART of T20. You cant take your time and then go for big shots. You need to score tuns quickly and aggressively. Otherwise you left too much for the last 5 overs or so. That's what happened to them in this WC.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 3:12 GMT)

South Africa's only problem is Smith. He has limited shots and poor technique. He should be dropped not only from t20 but also 50 over game. Also he is very ordinary captain. He brought Merwe in the side against Pakistan and was proved very bad decician. He wasted Morkel and Boucher. Why he doesn't send Boucher in top order? He comes opener, wastes overs and put pressure on batting line up. He did samething in last WC. Gibbs and Kallis batting under pressure just bcoz of him. Also his attitude is not good with his team. I felt South African players are not comfortable with him. I don't know, what South African selectors are doing. Few years ago they dropped Klusner without any reason and they wasted a big match player. Still they could not find any alternative. Morkel is good but he is still far behind than Klusner. I guarantee, if they drop Smith, South African team will be back on track... Thanx..

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 0:21 GMT)

I'm pakistani but feeling so bad for SA. A very good team always lose must win matches. coach is saying about changes. I know what changes will be made, Some good players like Kallis, Boucher etc will be dropped and Smith still will be playing. SA's only problem is SMITH. He has messed up team. Really he has place in the team? I think not just 20-20 format, he is unable to play 50 over match. He has very limited shots, he can't even clear the circle. He always wastes 4 to 5 overs and then get out. Gibbs or boseman has to sit out for him and SA misses not only a good batsman, a good fielder as well just bcoz of Smith. If he has good relations with selectors and they don't want him to drop, at least he should withdraw himself. Kallis is good player, he can play according to run rate and he can play big shots and big advantage, he is a very good bowler as well. Even he doesn't bat in top order, atleast he can bowl his full quota of overs. He or Boucher deserve captaincy.

Posted by BillyCC on (May 12, 2010, 23:54 GMT)

Boris6491 has said it all. South Africa are a bunch of chokers. They have not won a World Cup either in the 50 over or 20 over format despite being the best team on paper on many occasions and having numerous opportunities to reach the final or the semis. But the worst of it is their choking in Test cricket. On two occasions over the last two years, South Africa had a chance to assert themselves as the number 1 team and they failed miserably on both occasions. Firstly, they had to beat Australia in South Africa, and secondly, they had to beat England in South Africa.

Posted by Themba on (May 12, 2010, 21:05 GMT)

It would have been good to win ahead of the football world cup, imagine the country`s morale. Change is what we need, first Botha must captain the T20 side, Gibbs,boucher,duminy,kallis must go and get new faces in. England is showing off a new South African every year yet we are playing the same team over and over again.At least during Hansies time people would pay us to lose now we are doing that for free

Posted by svinodmenon on (May 12, 2010, 18:47 GMT)

First of all SA need a quality T20 openers. Smith, Kallis, L.Bosnan never seemed to be threatening. They should look for some alternative. Should not implement pressure on Gibbs. He should be given time and he should play his natural game at 1 down not the one he is doing right now. Still they are one of the best 50 overs team. T20 they should have a aggressive captain. I dont think smith is aggressive enough. There is no back up fast bowlers for SA. Only Steyn looks sharp others perform occasionally.

Posted by rohanahuja on (May 12, 2010, 18:27 GMT)

SA are unlucky...Even though I am indian i think south africa are a better team

Posted by samrkd on (May 12, 2010, 17:25 GMT)

Unfortunately no one exactly replaced the services of Shaun Pollock especially in the one-day and 20 format. In fact Graeme and Arthur done the damage for his early retirement. Also Graeme looking as lost interest in captaincy. So rest Smith and a new leader must be selected soon to meet new challenges

Posted by Islandvirg on (May 12, 2010, 17:21 GMT)

One thing that I cannot handle from all the SA interviews was " Do the basics"! Clearly basics dont work for SA, it never has! What is needed is balls of STEEL! We need guys to step up and be ruthless like Oz players always are. That guys like Morne Morkel, Albie Morkel, Gibbs, Boucher and many others make repeated errors in their judgement and never have an alternative to their game is worrying. Arent they capable of thinking that they cannot always do the same? Smith is a player SA needs but maybe its time for a more streetwise captain who isnt scared to do the different and hard things. Our approach in the last year and in big tournaments is appalling! Maybe its time to get an Oz advisor!

Posted by cryptq1 on (May 12, 2010, 16:48 GMT)

20/20 is still cricket. Get rid of the bits and pieces players, Kallis is your all rounder, select another 4 proper batsmen and 5 bowlers. Take the pace of the ball, as good as Steyn might be in test his pace is a handicap in this format. M Morkel, to many no-balls, cannot afford that. make Botha captain, he knows how to use spinners in this form of the game. Smith still does not realize that they are brilliant death bowlers.

Posted by Valis on (May 12, 2010, 16:18 GMT)

Smith must go! How long are they going to keep on with this clueless captain?

Posted by Sanjiyan on (May 12, 2010, 16:12 GMT)

Gibbs needs to call it a day. He's been fantastic but right now the only thing hes bringing to the table is fielding. As for the rest of the team: Bouch and Kallis are getting older so suitable replacements are needen( well replacing 2 world beaters isnt going to be easy, but if the Aussies can do it so can we) Duiminy would do with some time off to hone his skills, AB can move up a slot. Albi must to work on his bowling. As for the rest of the team...they need to catch a wakeup fast. You cant rely on the other guy to pick up the slack because you were sleeping. Look at the aussies..their team might not be the most talented but my gosh they make up for with with sheer determination and willpower. Pity it didnt rub off on us in the home and away series

Posted by mohsan123 on (May 12, 2010, 16:08 GMT)

I dont know what haapened with south african in the pressure games lets take an example if SA play a series of 5 t20 with pak i hope they will win for sure in big games there u need to handle pressure that is lacking with SA team so i can say they need a brain washing.

Posted by PTtheAxis on (May 12, 2010, 16:05 GMT)

simple soution - make botha the captain. smith out. captains should be made on their tactical skill & nous not on body size - as seen with smith, gayle etc. under botha SA have hardly lost a game. smith is aware of that and tries to keep botha out of the team. gibbs, duminy, kallis out as well. albie morkel should only bat not bowl.

Posted by venkatr_11 on (May 12, 2010, 15:44 GMT)

Sa are very robotic n their approach. Despite making the same mistakes in all the world tournaments they somehow fail to find the right approach! They have dynamic players in AB, Albie, Botha, steyn to name a few. Still they dont use it when needed the most. For instance Botha should have walked in ahead of Boucher against pak! Bosman should have replaced gibbs. They always want to chug ahead like a well oiled machine and if they run out of oil, they really dont move at all! Time to change the stubborn headed approach and be more dynamic and play with instincts which will win you more matches in crunch situations.

Posted by AJAYs_PyrotechniXX on (May 12, 2010, 15:38 GMT)

I guess Van Zyl wanted to drop certain players before the tournament but now he has got a good reason to drop them......Bye Bye Gibbs Bye Bye Albie

Posted by modes26 on (May 12, 2010, 15:14 GMT)

good bye Herschelle thanks for everything but its time to hang up yr boots and good bye Rodolph becasue international players now realize that u are actually crap and worth 10 a over on a good day and lets be honest a U13 cricket player could show more ability with a cricket bat han you ,clearly you enjoyed watching the likes of murali and glenn mcgrath bat rather than pointing's and kallis's of this world. Duminy has to be replaced due to shocking form , the talk and talk of form is temporary and class is permanent is bull shite in his case !he needs to go back to playing in sa to find some confidence in his game and then return ! i like him alot and i feel he is essential but ya nuff said ! i feel graham is a solid captain but i feel to often selection problems play a huge role when the chips are down and when we need to inject new ideas but as open as i have ever been to the idea of a new captain as graham has had ample time to sort his competition demons out ! NEW BLOOD IS NEEDED

Posted by LAWR on (May 12, 2010, 15:12 GMT)

A major change in personnel is required in the side. Corrie van Zyl, Smith, Kallis and Boucher need to go. They can go and play for their pensions in the IPL. SA played badly in this World Cup because for most of these players being at the IPL making money even though many of them were not getting a game was more important than practising for the tournament in South Africa.

It seems that the present batch of players have become a bit too greedy for the money in the IPL and expect to be picked anytime for the Proteas with no questions asked.Furthermor a guy like Jacques Kallis kills many games for SA at the top of the order by his slow batting. This puts pressure on the incoming batsmen. He digs a hole to bury his fellow batsmen.

Posted by zagar on (May 12, 2010, 14:43 GMT)

SOmeone has already said it - cricket is a game of glorious uncertainties. You cannot keep on analysing and filling up perceived gaps to finally say that now you have no gaps and are perfect!!!

Posted by Wernie on (May 12, 2010, 14:39 GMT)

I hope that the talk is over and that they actually make some changes

Posted by Pablo123 on (May 12, 2010, 14:32 GMT)

Well - If I had any say it would be like this:

I would appoint a T20 squad almost totally of provincial performers - not tried and tested ODI and test chaps - let those guys rest and focus on performing in those disciplines. I believe our T20 squad should be specialists.

The ONLY chaps I'd keep in this T20 squad would be AB de Villiers, Johan Botha and Charl Langeveld.

Posted by Shash28 on (May 12, 2010, 14:26 GMT)

There is alot of talk about the need for change and it' more soo with the approach than the resources. Firstly, there is a difference between the T20 and 2011 WC. I think Kallis will still be an important cog for the ODI team especially in carrying an innings. Loots Bosman still looks a good prospect despite being out of form for this tournament. Gibbs is past his best and it' difficult for power players who rely so much on hand-eye coordination as to technique, to continue with their aggressive form of play as they age (Jayasuriya being another example). It might help Smith if he does give up one or two forms of captaincy, His Test captaincy shouldn't be up for change though. Players like AB should be higher up the order in T20, so should players like JP and Albie... they are wasted after the old guard' taken more than half the alloted overs.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:09 GMT)

I believe that this harsh but new approach is just what is needed for South African cricket to be competitve when it matters. Don't get me wrong, South Africa is an extremely talented side, and on paper are arguably the strongest side in the world, however their great players haven't push themselves that little bit more to win in the pressure-cooker situations.Hence they need to find the right combination that will be able to function as a unit in big matches and authority figures may need to push current players to maintain the right state of mind ( as Darren Ganga says cricket is a confidence game) to perform when the heat is on.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:47 GMT)

Agreed!! Something needs to change. The first change must be replacing JP Duminy, it's hard for me to say this but he's been awful since Australia, he hasn't played one meaningful innings since. If he does well in the tour of the West Indies then he might be turning a corner but if it continues like it has been he needs to get dropped.

In terms of where we failed in the tournament I don't believe our bowling was that bad actually, bar the India game, our bowlers did pretty well against Pakistan and England. Morne, Dale and Charl were brilliant. We were let down by our batting in every loss, we weren't getting the starts we needed or that extra push in the middle overs. We couldn't ask for more from Kallis, Albie and AB but the rest of the batsmen must have a long look at themselves. Most disappointing though has to be Boucher missing a clear catch, this should tell us that we should start blooding a youngster in one of the 3 forms of the game whilst Bouch continues in the other two.

Posted by boris6491 on (May 12, 2010, 13:16 GMT)

Unfortunately, the 'C' word seems to be associating itself with SA yet again. Just like India, they are a team full of talent but it is really puzzling why they can never deliver in the big tournaments. Gibbs really needs to call it a day, he has been a magnificent player but since the IPL, he has been totally out of sorts. I think some tactical errors such as the absence of Theron and Botha in the side were contributory. Botha is outstanding in this format of the game and a Steyn, Theron, Botha, and VD Merwe combination would have been solid, despite Roelef's lack of form. AB, JP and Graeme Smith were disappointing when they needed to step up as was Kallis in spite of the plethora of runs he scored for Bangalore. Where SA fail and Australia continue to succeed is the ability to play under pressure regardless of the quality of players which comprise the playing XI. SA's talented players need to learn to step up as these are the situations which will gauge how good they truly are.

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