Cook: What we need to do, uhhm, is work out exactly what's needed to win the Ashes.

Moores: The World Cup, Cooky. It's the World Cup next.

Cook: It's what?

Moores: It's the World Cup next.

Cook: In Australia?

Moores: Yes.

Cook: And that's not the Ashes?

Moores: No.

Cook: So when are we playing the Ashes?

Moores: In the summer. Six months later.

Cook: Oh, thank God. I thought we didn't have one this year for a minute. Okay, so the, uhhm, World Cup then. What do we need to do? We're just not, uhhm, competitive right now.

Moores: Yeah, we really need to be competitive at least.

Cook: That's it! Make a note. "Be competitive."

Cook: What else?

Moores: Well I've run the numbers and it seems that most of the other nations are scoring much more than us. I think we need to score more runs.

Cook: Okay, so, uhhm, how do we score more runs? What are we doing wrong?

Moores: Well, recently we've not been batting out our overs. If we can survive 50 overs, that'll give us a much better chance of putting a competitive total on the board.

Cook: Don't get out - I can do that. At least I used to be able to do that, uhhm, back when, my skillset was being better executed.

Moores: But if you can upskill your skillset, getting out won't be a problem.

Cook: Okay, great. We're making real progress here. If we can be competitive and I can upskill my skillset, uhhm, we can certainly be competitive as a unit.

Moores: We've got a definite progress pathway here.

Cook: Okay, team selection. Uhhm, are we picking the right players?

Moores: That's a very good point. A very, very good point. We should pick the right players.

Cook: Okay, so we've got the right team, uhhm, we're competitive, uhhm, and I've upskilled my skillset so that we're making bigger totals. We also need to defend totals.

Moores: Death bowling.

Cook: I'm not sure that's within the laws of the game.

Moores: Bowling at the death.

Cook: Oh, I see, uhhm. You mean at the end of the innings, uhhm. That bit when all the foreign batsmen lose their technique?

Moores: Yes. I think we need to upskill our skillsets when bowling at the death as well.

Cook: Absolutely.

Cook: Okay, is that enough? Will we, uhhm, win the Ashes -

Moores: The World Cup.

Cook: The World Cup, uhhm, if we do these things?

Moores: I don't know. The other teams are allowed to play well.

Cook: That's true, uhhm. The opposition is allowed to play well.

Moores: And if they do, they might still beat us.

Cook: Oh.

Moores: But if we improve, we'll definitely be competitive.

Cook: How much do we need to improve?

Moores: Looking at recent results, we need to improve quite a bit.

Cook: Oh.

Moores: But it's okay. We've got a while. We don't need to progress in leaps and bounds.

Moores: We just need to improve steadily, but constantly. If we can improve at the rate we need to improve, we've got a chance.

Cook: I'd never thought of it like that, uhhm. It's pretty simple when you think about it.