Captaincy December 6, 2007

Let it go, Captain Khan

Let it go, Captain Khan
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Younis Khan, suggest reports emanating from Bangalore, is about to turn his back on the Pakistan captaincy for a third time. We all know that Younis loathes nothing more than being somebody's dummy. We all know that the unreasonable reactions of Pakistan fans turn his mind from the captaincy. But if the reports are true and Younis does not lead Pakistan in Bangalore, he will be the dummy and an unreasonable one at that.

Admittedly, Pakistan's decision-making has defied logic. Yasir Arafat rushes in too late to play. Shoaib Akhtar leaves his hospital bed to open the bowling. Kamran Akmal remains Pakistan's wicketkeeper for his batting and not his glovework. Abdur Rauf is summoned but blocked by the board. Meanwhile, Pakistan's stand-in captain is an agitated bystander.

What power can Younis expect, though, as stand-in captain? He keeps the seat warm for his younger leader, and it is churlish to complain since this is a situation of his own making. The captaincy and the power could have been his.

Statistically, Younis is one of Pakistan's best ever batsmen. Everybody who scoffed at his heroics at Kolkata needs to remember that Pakistan have an abysmal record of saving a Test match on the final day. Far more illustrious Pakistan batting line-ups than this one have flopped miserably in less trying circumstances.

Yet Younis has never managed to capture the broad acclaim to match that of the people he rubs shoulders with in the records table. Some of this reluctance is down to Younis's unpredictability, although he is increasingly reliable. Some of it is down to juvenile mockery of his bottom-slapping technique of player motivation.

Much of this ambivalence, however, is entirely explained by his bizarre relationship with the Pakistan captaincy. The first refusal could be explained by principle. The second explained by emotion. Many Pakistan fans have been exasperated by these decisions. How could somebody refuse the national leadership role? This third hesitation will eradicate any sympathy for Younis's stance. The question is a simple one: What matters more to Younis, his pride or the opportunity to rescue this Test series for his country?

Let it go, Captain Khan. Your pride infuses your play but your pride is also diffusing your senses. The best answer to people in the squad or in the PCB who might undermine you is to show them what you are capable of on the field. That is where you win the argument, not in press conferences, syndicated columns, or air-conditioned boardrooms.

A Pakistan team with its third captain of the series will be a limp challenger to India's dominance.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • Omer Admani on December 16, 2007, 10:06 GMT

    There is some good news after the series though. The batting did come along in the series, whereas the bowling fell apart. Part of the reason is that a full-strength pace attack wasn't available, and the bench-strength was found wanting.

    There is no point in persisting with Malik and I'd rather that the management pre-empts serious defeat against Australia. The only question to consider is whether Malik could play in the test side on merit and the answer is that 'he is a bowler turned into batsman'. Once that is not possible, fallouts are bound to happen in the team as he won't be respected too much.

  • M.Y.Kasim.Houston,Tx.USA on December 16, 2007, 5:23 GMT

    It was obvious from the very beginning that the Pakistan Cricket Team was very weak and unbalanced and will lose badly on the Indian tour. Here is my observation: After the one-dayers the selectors should not have recalled Shahid Afridi, Fawad Alam and Sarfaraz Ahamed. As replacements they should have sent Asim Kamal, Abulr Rauf, Mohammed Irshad and Anwar Ali. Kamran Akmal should have opened with Salman Butt while w/k duties be given to Sarfaz Ahmed. Faisal Iqbal, Mohammed Sami and Danish Kaneria have been tried over and over again and have faied so has Yasir Hameed and Imran Nazir. Can't we swallow this fact? Rao Iftekhar Anjum is a good one day player so are Sohail Tanvir and Abdur Rehman but for Test Matches you need real FAST bowlers and spinners who can take wickets not just stop the flow of runs.

  • TTU on December 14, 2007, 18:45 GMT

    Another series goes by and nothing productive for Pakistan cricket except the rise of Misbah, but one question, will he be so good on genuine 150-250 bowling pitches? if so then he is a good player, if not then he is a flat track bully like most in Pakistan are. Kudos to the Indians they deserved to win, i reckon they'll frustrate the Aussies but I still back the Aussies to come out on top. As far as Pakistan are concerned, we have a series against Zimbabwe, a good time to test out fresh legs, new bowlers need to be incorporated. I back Akmal as opener and Sarfraz as wicketkeeper. Akmal can make it as a batsmen alone, he has enough talent. Drop Akhtar or give him an ultimatum, something like survive the Zimbabwe series and take wickets. As far as the Australia series goes, we can beat them but only with a settled opening pair (Butt and Akmal or some other talented opener) , an in-form Yousuf and Malik, an uninjured Akhtar, Asif, Gul and in-form Kaneria in the same attack.

  • Saladin on December 14, 2007, 17:29 GMT

    It is clear that Kaneria is surviving only on reputation (and for that metter so is Kamran Akmal, Mohameed Sami & Sohaib Akthar).

    Misbah ul Haq could reinvent himself at the age of 33. Michael Hussy made his debut at 31.

    A certain Mr. Saqlain Mustaq is still only 30.

    Kamran Akmal might have made a century at Kolkata, but had he taken the catches the Indian total would have been 150 less in the first place!

    Why not Sarfaraz Ahmed as keeper and vice captain After all he was the U19 world cup winning captain.

    Coming back to Saqlain, he was once spoken of as the future captain of Pakistan. It is still not late.

  • ahrash on December 14, 2007, 10:52 GMT

    Here are my two cents - We should Retain Malik as captain and Re - employ Waqar and Wasim as bowling coaches.Afridi must play in all forms of the game - he is our talisman and I believe he should be made vice captain. I think that what was most evident from the defeat in India was the poor intelligence levels The Pakistani team exhibited compared to the Indians and this must be addressed at grass roots level.Mohd Sami just isn't an international player and we should give Anwar Ali a chance.Lets not forget that the team is in transition and still very young but we should adopt a similar model as employed by Australia/England where talent is nurtured by academies and universities. Only then can we get a crop of well rounded individuals that have the support and self confidence to win games consistently.

  • M.Y.Kasim,Houston Tx.USA on December 14, 2007, 2:55 GMT

    It is not the players fault but the selectors and above all the ones who runs PCB without having any knowledge about cricket who submit to pressures to keep their high paying jobs by selecting and not giving deserving youngsters a chance to establish themselves and away with tried and failed over and over again lot and make some bold decisions. Give a chance to Asim Kamal and who knows , he may turn out to be another success story like Misbah.Play Kamran Akmal as an specialist batsman, preferably an opener and give W/k duties to some competent guy, surely must be a one or two in 160 ml people!! Then there are Abdur Rauf, Mohammed Irshad, Anwar Ali and a host of up and coming fast bowlers we are grooming we can give a taste of international experience. Regarding spinners,there is life beyond Kaneria, Rizwan Ahamed of Hyderabad, Mansoor Amjad,( Right arm leg break) Fawad Alam (left arm slow) and an Off=Spinner (I can't place his name) are excellent prospects. Give them chance try them

  • Andy G on December 13, 2007, 11:52 GMT

    The PCb have a look at who is capable of being a regular in starting XI and give him the captaincy long term. To me there are only 2 choices Younis Khan, or M Yousuf. Against Australia Akmal needs to bat higher up the order, maybe even open - he cant be any worse than the current openers. Also - a fit Ahktar is one of the best attacking weapons in world cricket, and Kaneria is highly regarded everywhere except in Pakistan. I thought Pakistan ended up doing better than I imagined they would, I thought they would get beat 3 - 0. Get a full strength side on the paddock and Pakistan can be world beaters. What is the go with Razzaq? Has he permanantly retired from international cricket to play 20/20? The other problem Pakistan cricket is - there is no tolerance for dips in form. I think Inzy had another 2 years left in him - but all the melodrama finished him off. Also - why can't Saqlain get back in the team? - that guy was awesome, he is the inventor of the doosra - not Murali.

  • Reehan on December 13, 2007, 11:12 GMT

    Musharaff has SET UP Pak cricket to fail so that Imran Khan will withdraw from politics and create a winning team. Remember 1987, today hurts. India were average, Pak were less than that! Army man Mushy is so smart, puting Ashraf (Kidney specialist)to administer decay to the Pak team, that Imran will have no choice but to come back. What do you think of my conspiracy theory?

  • irfan bhat on December 13, 2007, 8:25 GMT

    pak cricket is dead,thats all i have to say.Tell me one single area where in pak team is not struggling?

  • Imran Quraishi on December 12, 2007, 21:27 GMT

    Younus Khan is not a captain material. He is a bad fielder who dropped a lot of catches in this test series and a dumb batsman who when at the score of 80 plays a dumb reverse sweep of Harbhajan to get him self clean bowled. He should never be asked to lead Pakistan. Then only capable man is Misbah and no one else. As for Faisal Iqbal he should never be selected in the team again.What a loser he is.

  • Omer Admani on December 16, 2007, 10:06 GMT

    There is some good news after the series though. The batting did come along in the series, whereas the bowling fell apart. Part of the reason is that a full-strength pace attack wasn't available, and the bench-strength was found wanting.

    There is no point in persisting with Malik and I'd rather that the management pre-empts serious defeat against Australia. The only question to consider is whether Malik could play in the test side on merit and the answer is that 'he is a bowler turned into batsman'. Once that is not possible, fallouts are bound to happen in the team as he won't be respected too much.

  • M.Y.Kasim.Houston,Tx.USA on December 16, 2007, 5:23 GMT

    It was obvious from the very beginning that the Pakistan Cricket Team was very weak and unbalanced and will lose badly on the Indian tour. Here is my observation: After the one-dayers the selectors should not have recalled Shahid Afridi, Fawad Alam and Sarfaraz Ahamed. As replacements they should have sent Asim Kamal, Abulr Rauf, Mohammed Irshad and Anwar Ali. Kamran Akmal should have opened with Salman Butt while w/k duties be given to Sarfaz Ahmed. Faisal Iqbal, Mohammed Sami and Danish Kaneria have been tried over and over again and have faied so has Yasir Hameed and Imran Nazir. Can't we swallow this fact? Rao Iftekhar Anjum is a good one day player so are Sohail Tanvir and Abdur Rehman but for Test Matches you need real FAST bowlers and spinners who can take wickets not just stop the flow of runs.

  • TTU on December 14, 2007, 18:45 GMT

    Another series goes by and nothing productive for Pakistan cricket except the rise of Misbah, but one question, will he be so good on genuine 150-250 bowling pitches? if so then he is a good player, if not then he is a flat track bully like most in Pakistan are. Kudos to the Indians they deserved to win, i reckon they'll frustrate the Aussies but I still back the Aussies to come out on top. As far as Pakistan are concerned, we have a series against Zimbabwe, a good time to test out fresh legs, new bowlers need to be incorporated. I back Akmal as opener and Sarfraz as wicketkeeper. Akmal can make it as a batsmen alone, he has enough talent. Drop Akhtar or give him an ultimatum, something like survive the Zimbabwe series and take wickets. As far as the Australia series goes, we can beat them but only with a settled opening pair (Butt and Akmal or some other talented opener) , an in-form Yousuf and Malik, an uninjured Akhtar, Asif, Gul and in-form Kaneria in the same attack.

  • Saladin on December 14, 2007, 17:29 GMT

    It is clear that Kaneria is surviving only on reputation (and for that metter so is Kamran Akmal, Mohameed Sami & Sohaib Akthar).

    Misbah ul Haq could reinvent himself at the age of 33. Michael Hussy made his debut at 31.

    A certain Mr. Saqlain Mustaq is still only 30.

    Kamran Akmal might have made a century at Kolkata, but had he taken the catches the Indian total would have been 150 less in the first place!

    Why not Sarfaraz Ahmed as keeper and vice captain After all he was the U19 world cup winning captain.

    Coming back to Saqlain, he was once spoken of as the future captain of Pakistan. It is still not late.

  • ahrash on December 14, 2007, 10:52 GMT

    Here are my two cents - We should Retain Malik as captain and Re - employ Waqar and Wasim as bowling coaches.Afridi must play in all forms of the game - he is our talisman and I believe he should be made vice captain. I think that what was most evident from the defeat in India was the poor intelligence levels The Pakistani team exhibited compared to the Indians and this must be addressed at grass roots level.Mohd Sami just isn't an international player and we should give Anwar Ali a chance.Lets not forget that the team is in transition and still very young but we should adopt a similar model as employed by Australia/England where talent is nurtured by academies and universities. Only then can we get a crop of well rounded individuals that have the support and self confidence to win games consistently.

  • M.Y.Kasim,Houston Tx.USA on December 14, 2007, 2:55 GMT

    It is not the players fault but the selectors and above all the ones who runs PCB without having any knowledge about cricket who submit to pressures to keep their high paying jobs by selecting and not giving deserving youngsters a chance to establish themselves and away with tried and failed over and over again lot and make some bold decisions. Give a chance to Asim Kamal and who knows , he may turn out to be another success story like Misbah.Play Kamran Akmal as an specialist batsman, preferably an opener and give W/k duties to some competent guy, surely must be a one or two in 160 ml people!! Then there are Abdur Rauf, Mohammed Irshad, Anwar Ali and a host of up and coming fast bowlers we are grooming we can give a taste of international experience. Regarding spinners,there is life beyond Kaneria, Rizwan Ahamed of Hyderabad, Mansoor Amjad,( Right arm leg break) Fawad Alam (left arm slow) and an Off=Spinner (I can't place his name) are excellent prospects. Give them chance try them

  • Andy G on December 13, 2007, 11:52 GMT

    The PCb have a look at who is capable of being a regular in starting XI and give him the captaincy long term. To me there are only 2 choices Younis Khan, or M Yousuf. Against Australia Akmal needs to bat higher up the order, maybe even open - he cant be any worse than the current openers. Also - a fit Ahktar is one of the best attacking weapons in world cricket, and Kaneria is highly regarded everywhere except in Pakistan. I thought Pakistan ended up doing better than I imagined they would, I thought they would get beat 3 - 0. Get a full strength side on the paddock and Pakistan can be world beaters. What is the go with Razzaq? Has he permanantly retired from international cricket to play 20/20? The other problem Pakistan cricket is - there is no tolerance for dips in form. I think Inzy had another 2 years left in him - but all the melodrama finished him off. Also - why can't Saqlain get back in the team? - that guy was awesome, he is the inventor of the doosra - not Murali.

  • Reehan on December 13, 2007, 11:12 GMT

    Musharaff has SET UP Pak cricket to fail so that Imran Khan will withdraw from politics and create a winning team. Remember 1987, today hurts. India were average, Pak were less than that! Army man Mushy is so smart, puting Ashraf (Kidney specialist)to administer decay to the Pak team, that Imran will have no choice but to come back. What do you think of my conspiracy theory?

  • irfan bhat on December 13, 2007, 8:25 GMT

    pak cricket is dead,thats all i have to say.Tell me one single area where in pak team is not struggling?

  • Imran Quraishi on December 12, 2007, 21:27 GMT

    Younus Khan is not a captain material. He is a bad fielder who dropped a lot of catches in this test series and a dumb batsman who when at the score of 80 plays a dumb reverse sweep of Harbhajan to get him self clean bowled. He should never be asked to lead Pakistan. Then only capable man is Misbah and no one else. As for Faisal Iqbal he should never be selected in the team again.What a loser he is.

  • ali_a on December 12, 2007, 20:03 GMT

    What can I say about Pakistan's dismal performance in the 3rd test against India. They almost lost thanks to really bad batting.

    Although Muhammad Yosuf survived in the end and helped ensured no wicket to fall, alas he was in poor form. He should have been used to batting in these kind of sub-continental pitches.

    Shoaib Aktar, Sami poor bowling. A guy like Ishant Sharma was able to take 5 wickets and our bowlers were too busy bowling wasteful shot stuff. Instead of using their head.

    I think Pakistan should realize that the reason India is doing well is because they've a full time bowling coach Prasad. They need to get over their ego and get Waqar or Wasim as full time bowling coach. Pakistan bowling was so miserable during the series that they couldn't get Indians out. Kaneria was dropping short balls. Not sure what Lawson is doing, he was a good bowler but looked clueless during the series. Should not have let Shoaib play in the 2nd test and could have gone with Rao in last test.

  • S.Ahmed on December 12, 2007, 16:31 GMT

    The PCB have to adopt MERITCORACY! They have to LOOK at FORM, Averages (BOTH domestic AND international)

    I know its a concept not found in other echelons of Pakistani society, but...

    Bowlers - There seems to be a dearth in quality fast bowlers - either they are not being given a chance or the talents of the under 19 world cup winning teams are being wasted.

    Batting: H

    Batting: How Faisal Iqbal can get in the tem AHEAD of players with RECENT BETTER FORM domestically, is beyond me

    The PCB need to make IT CLEAR what a player has to do to have a chance to get in the team At the moment its the SAME FAILED people being given a chnce WITHOUT PROVING themselves domestically, I'm all for second chances.

    Misbah was discovered BY LUCK. He is the exception not the NORM.

    Captaincy-Malik SURELY has to give up the test captincy.. FOR NOW-he just isnt ready-maybe vice cap?

    Coaching-WHy do Pak NOT utilise SPIN nd FAST ex bowlers - Our bowlers have forgotten how to bowl yorkers! Use ex-batsmen!

  • Afzaal Khan on December 12, 2007, 16:11 GMT

    Im just surprised that Misbah name keep coming up for captaincy. Did he had a good series, yes, did he score when it was needed yes. Yet he fail too in scoring department. Foregt all scoring, captainship is about controlling situation, Misbah with all his talents will remain the guy who just can't finish the job. I don't say that on basis on T20, but on recent test matches. 1st test he didnt farm out strike, 2nd test after Sami's departure he stood by on the non striker end at let the tail face the delivries resulting in 3 wkts in succession. 3rd test he again, didn't protect the tail. He should have realized that pitch is different & Sami remains a tail ender. Even if that can be ignore how could he have taken run on 1st ball of the over and exposed Shoaib Akhtar to face 5 balls. Point is Pak needed to eat time which at both time with tea approaching eating time would have changed the situation. In the end Misbah does good but can't finish the job.

  • Imran on December 12, 2007, 11:36 GMT

    I think we should have a domestic 'test' series with official pak team versus any challengers locally picked by neutral outsiders, and lets see who the real talent is.I've heard their are lads in NWFP who bowl fast but never get chance. Lets have a live televised fast bowling challenge/net session against top batsmen and see if there isn't any talent or if it just isn't allowed opportunity to be nurtured/exposed. Drop Malik he can't bat/bowl and rubbish Kaneria with his defeatest body language,Afridi any day! Rao might be unglamorous but i bet he can bowl on off stump all day unlike other dodo's. Why don't we try bowling tight lines like Indian bowlers in that off stump channel, they been trying to contain runs and make batsmen go for silly shots. Why have we let Kumble dominate, didn't they make a plan for Indian bowlers, play him like a seamer, woeful batting by some with big gap between bat & pad. Plz Saqlain get fit again we need you.

  • ASIF on December 12, 2007, 6:45 GMT

    Mr.Javed khan & the pakistan captain Younus khan are utterly wrong when they blame Kumble for being negative.Actually pakistan's approach was very negative & defeatist from the beginning.Younus khan being the captain should have asked Salman to accelerate the scoring as he was just blocking without any purpose.In fact Kumble's declaration was a very bold one.345 in 81 overs was gettable.This is where pak needed Afridi who with his positive & aggressive approach would have atleast tried & it would have been an interesting match instead of the boring struggle.In the previous tours in 1999 & 2005 even when chasing 400 plus Afridi gave them brilliant starts & took crucial wickets.He would have been very useful in this series with both bat & the ball but was dropped just to include yasir hamid & faisal who once again failed miserably. So instead of blaming Kumble pakistan are themselves to blame first for not including afridi & then playing to draw the game instead of winning.

  • Kaiser Mukhtar from Hongkong on December 12, 2007, 4:21 GMT

    Mr.Kamran Abbasi I want to ask you to suggest some tips to Pakistan Bowlers, I think you are the ideal person to do so, To bowl to left handers like Ganguly to go round the wicket to bowl at him if they feel it uncomfortable to contain him. I fail to understand that why they can't improvise while bowling like all greats of the game in the yester years and even today. They continue to bowl a player like him over the wicket and he continues to bludgeon them cutting and slashing safely for fours and even field setting isn't ideal to prevent the 3rd man and point boundary. Its pretty ordinary stuff from Pakistan team against the weaker player of the game like Ganguly. U give him his ideal space and boost his confidence and get hurt yourself. Its embarssing to see all this.

  • HH on December 12, 2007, 3:32 GMT

    I read in The News that the PCB chief is upset over the team's performance and planning on replacing most of the players. I think the problem is mainly at the management level, less at the players level. Wholesale changes in the PCB management is absolutely warranted but not for the players. Where Pakistan lacked was planning and man management. I get the impression no one had studied the Indian batsmen, their strengths and weaknesses. Pakistan generally bowled and fielded without a plan. Bowlers of the caliber of Sami,Arafat, Kaneria etc. can only succeed if they stick to a plan. As critical as I was of the late Mr.Woolmer, I can't but regret the absence of his pre-series planning. Our current coach seems to be much less of a strategist.

  • A man of honor. on December 11, 2007, 22:39 GMT

    Hey guys!

    You must see the movie "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand to appreciate EXACTLY what is going on with Yunis Khan! Perhaps then you will understand and appreciate the individuality and sense of self-freedom and self-respect that Yunis has. You will then probably love him for what he is doing!

    Thought to share it with you! Thanks :)

  • irfan on December 11, 2007, 12:09 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi you are talking about captaincy issues.Can u tell me even a single area which is in proper order currently in pak cricket?You don,t have a proper and stable cricketing body.The efficiency of the selection committe can be checked from their policies in picking up the squads.Few questions ,for which i would like to know answers from you are: 1.On what basis was the tenure of malik extended till 2009? 2.What record malik has as a test cricketer to have the privelage of leading the test side? 3.Since salman butt was making a return to the side after a long time,what was the logic of him being apointed vice captain? 4.Sami,averages more than 50 per wicket after playing more than 30 tests,which suggests that he has been given enough chances to prove his potential.On what basis he is being played again and again.Same is the case wit the likes of hafiz,imran nazir,faisal iqbal etc. There are many more prominent loopholes in pak cricket to mention.

  • Rauf on December 11, 2007, 10:24 GMT

    To Indian at December 10, 2007 2:15 AM

    Javed can speak for himself but I read his post as India and to lesser extent Pakistan are defensive teams in nature. Maybe personal records bit was in play... I am not sure. If it was Australia, they would have most likely declared at 500 or even less to give their bowlers a reasonable chance to win the match. Agression means how you plan and play the match rather then making funny faces like Sreesanth. Series is almost won by India, no doubt and congratulations, but it looks better to win 2-0 or 3-0. Australia won't be this forgiving :)

    BTW... what's up with Kumble sledging someone like Yousuf? I blame Yousuf for loosing his concentration but this was very uncalled for player of Kumble's seniority. Let's see if he will continue the practice in Australia... who themselves are masters of sledging.

  • Afzaal Khan on December 11, 2007, 8:40 GMT

    Salam, sorry this is not the topic but im mad as hell. 4th Day 3rd test Pakistan tail collapsed for which I can't blame them. I am tired of Misbah-can't-finish-the-job-ul-huq. This guy plays and plays but can't finish the job. He exposed the tail and from comfort we went to catchup during 2nd test. Once again he exposed the tail and now once again Pakistan would have tofight an uphill battle to save the game. Lets face it with all his talents, none that I am disputing Misbah just cant finish the job. Time to either send him up or preferably replace him with someone with more sense.

  • usama on December 11, 2007, 3:51 GMT

    as a pakistani fan i am disheartened by the comments posted above specifically to those of you who downgrade younis...also mr kamran... you have posted many articles that critisize the PCB, but when a player stands up for his rights against the very same board, you take on the side of the PCB?? why?? dont tell me that the situation or circumstances were different. If younis doesnt do it now... who will? THe managment is run by puppets and who made musharraf in charge of all these matters... he cant do his true job properly and he has to interrupt in the nations sport... Younis should be allowed to form his team albeit with some consultance from worthy selectors. Wasim and waqar should be bowling coaches... n ashraf needs to take a hike... this series was extremely disappointing not only becuz pakistan has basically lost it... but in the manner in which they have done so.. this series had no intensity and fire that indo-pak clashes are accustomed to

  • Bored n Tired ,NOW Depressed on December 11, 2007, 2:03 GMT

    Hello All,This time i am not only bored and tired, bi feel Depressed.I am sure if not all, most of the Pakistani awaam is going through this depressive phase, we are close to extinction NOW. we need to get REAL and WAKE up.I love both india and pakistan,got no issues about that. We shud learn something from indians as well. The way they are making progess in every thing. movies business,education,sports(cricket,golf,fotball etc)fashion,that is Impressive Crickt has turned into mega family event in india. whole family now enjoys watching cricket,the plyer do thier job of providing entertainment to the fans. IN MY OPINION a national team's responsibity is not "just to go out and play, they have this moral responsibilty to boost nations spirit and take them out of this depressive phase and help them feel better and proud.I am losing my train of thougts now,to sum it up,we have to do something to break this vicious cycle of demoralization.We need to learn how to EARN REspect.

  • Umair Muzaffar on December 11, 2007, 0:44 GMT

    It is clear that Younis Khan is reluctant to make full commitment to the Pakistan team … and vice versa the management cannot trust Younis Khan because he has not made a commitment.

    Younis wants to run his team like Imran Khan used to run his team … by commanding total control on selection, pitches, venues and umpires. The difference is that Imran Khan never talked to the press against the PCB while he was the captain or in running for the captaincy.

    Trust is a two way street … Younis is energetic and respected by the team … but controlling all aspects of team planning requires commitment that goes beyond the five on the field.

  • Asem Chiragh on December 10, 2007, 23:22 GMT

    Why is comment of yesterday not posted????

  • Tay'yab-Ali Malik on December 10, 2007, 22:24 GMT

    Naveed Sheikh

    pakistan still has (when fit) the best bowling attack in the world. Both SA and MA have proved they are more than a handfull even when half fit. I have yet to see SA, MA & Gul play together, and I don't know any team who does not fear both Asif SA. SA has clearly struggled during this series and yet the powerful Indian batsmen decided to play defensive against him-his figures speak for themselves and he has been paks best bowler in terms of economy, S/R & wickets. (and he has yet to bowl in the second innings)

    take away three big players from any international team and they will struggle. Imagine Aus without Hayden, Ponting & hussey or clarke. India without Tendulkar, dravid, ganguly or Sreesanth, RP & zaheer and then even the tail wags.

  • Salahuddin Sallu, Chief Selector, PCB on December 10, 2007, 21:49 GMT

    I selected Faisal Iqbal to avoid criticism from Javed Miandad, coz he always yells at selection committee and PCB after each series loss. I(& Captain Malik) dropped Afridi because he is a popular personality and he is a match-winner as well. We didn't need match winners for this series , we only needed players who could save couple of matches. Whoever wants to play in the Pakistan team in future, bring the Parchi and he will be selected. We should not take the credit away from boys as our the team selected by my selection committee has avoided 3-0 white wash. We can still draw positives from this series: Kamran Akmal has scored runs so he will keep playing until Pakistani bowlers understand that Caught-Behind & Stumped doesn't exist is cricket! Danesh Kaneria is a match winner although most of his wickets are tail-enders or against Bangladesh, Zim etc. If team gives away 600 runs he only gives away 150-200 runs out of those 600 and takes 3-4 wickets, thats not bad performance!!

  • a critic on December 10, 2007, 20:33 GMT

    Good observation by Rohit, Mr Javed Khan, for once in your life learn to praise your opponents!!! This only shows to what an extent you can go to devoid the Indians from any credit they deserve for the outcome of this series. Your argument about Players playing 'selfishly' has got as much strength as in the Spine of the Rawalpindi Express!!! What makes you think that by setting just a 500+ Score Kumble could have applied more pressure?? Most probably Pakistan will avoid the follow on tomorrow, the idea was to bat just once!!!so even 626 might not be enough to enforce a follow on!!!

    Anyways, If Pakistan can survive till Lunch tomorrow then they can hold on for a draw. It all depends on the all important first session tomorrow.

    A lot could be said in 1000 words, if only one knows clearly what argument he/she is putting forward and not the constant 'blabber' some Bloggers use here. It's good to have a limit.

    Cheers...

  • Shazad - california on December 10, 2007, 20:20 GMT

    Here is the reciepe for success - Make dead wickets with uneven bounce so that Kumble can hit those spots and get wickets. - As far as pakistan, at least they have FAST bowlers in thier rank all the time... Ask Gavaskar,Vishwanath, Gangooli How embarassing was to face Sarfaraz, Imran, Waqar, Wasim,even Sikander Bakht. - Indian team always rely on Batting on subcontinent pitches... We will see who make 600 runs in Australia.

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on December 10, 2007, 19:42 GMT

    LOL @ Rohit & Indian's views. All I can say is, a mind can only see what it is prepared to see, and you are done with that. With this attitude the Indians are going to have a torrid time in Australia. As regards this 1000 character rule, whoever took this commercial decision is a short-sighted dolt. A blog is not a secondary school classroom where one writes an essay within 1000 characters, this is indeed a joke. Adult discussions are not simply animated and expressed like kids lingo or kinda sms text messages, they are substantiated with facts and backed by stats, and thats what you do on blogs. If the XBOX robots are happy and obedient to His Master's Voice & in wagging their tails, rolling over and saying "I am agree" my lord i.e., when he commands you say what a great piece of dash dash or, wonderful article my lord. Then you are proving to them that you are mere robots and they are pleased like Moghambu, but some regulars are already outta here & some are on the way to join them.

  • Rohit Roshan on December 10, 2007, 18:56 GMT

    Oh ya Mr Javed Khan LOL , As if Pakistan would have declared early and given itself a chance for 2-0 and even 1% to India of leveliing series ,if Pakistan they were 1 - 0 ahead. We all know the batting effort frustrated you as much as it did your team, but buddy you gotta live with facts of life;). I mean why give opposition a chance to come back when you have dug the grave. Its better to bury them ;) and thats what Kumble did. And even if Indian players did play for record,nothing is wrong in it because in the process they got records as well as ensured 1-0 lead will remain a high probability. Nothing wrong in gaining for self if team has gained in it. But I guess you cant understand basic logic;)

  • Sachin Fan on December 10, 2007, 18:19 GMT

    well well.. here we go again. Javed khan from Montreal, so jealous of Sachin. whats new ? Now let me tell you something. I agree that in India some people do worship humans. But Sachin is no human. Sachin is "The God " in human form for us indians. He was sent from heavens by Gods to entertain mortals and make over 1 billion indians happy and proud. We want Sachin to play for stats and to play for records. To keep churning runs like a machine and break all records that are left to be broken and to reach new heights were no cricketer has ever gone before or will dare to do so in future. Go Sachin Go. If you are reading this Pak Spin blog, please ignore negative comments and criticism . We know somebody dislikes you for your achievements. ( hint ) ( hint ) LOL ! You just lost test series . Now get over it dude. Better luck next time. >> Greetings from Florida to all Pak Spin bloggers !! Peace Out !! Sachin Fan !!

  • Razi - USA on December 10, 2007, 16:00 GMT

    We know that there are some chances that Pakistan will save this game.But we never any lesson from previous rather we keep doing the same mistake again with a variation. YY displayed a very careless show when he needed to stay at wicket and put some pressure on India. Yousif once again failed to delvier anything except more embarrsesment after failing again. Faisal and Sami, they should join ICL asap to bring some foreign exchange to Pakistan which will be a great service. We have very conservation management and they dont know the meaning of disruption. They need to do SWOT anlaysis which I am sure that they never heard of it. NSA should be ashamed of himself about what he brought to the pakistan cricket. I am sure during all this year in US he never heard of work cricket. I believe he is punishing Pakistan cricket beacuse ICC disallowed test status to US. - Send Lawson Home - Send Hameed, faisal,Sami,Danish, Akhter to ICL - Bring Shabbir, Taufeeq, Razzaq back - Make Younis capt.

  • irfan patel on December 10, 2007, 13:59 GMT

    why is kumble not declaring hurting some people? india is 1 up..and he dosent want his boys to bat twice..hence the score of 600 and 500..why cant you understand that jallu khan from montreal.one nil or two nil..you are ending up loser!! same like your fav loser afridi..all you know is to hate two world class players ..sachin and shoaib akthar...sadly your Fellow pathan afridi will never match up in class to these two!! I think you like afridi not for his cricketing skills..but for something else..you find him guud dont you..so keep it to yourself..dont declare it to the world.

  • EAMiran on December 10, 2007, 13:55 GMT

    For Dileep Premachandran of Cricinfo: Don't know what match you watched, but the one I viewed(till lunch anyway)had no controversial decision. The appeal against Butt was a bat-pad, or at least had enough doubt about it not to be given, while Ganguly's psychotic appeal against Younis clearly flicked the pad on it's way to the keeper. Admittedly, I did not see the game after lunch so I cannot comment on the other "close-calls". Regardless Dileep, please stop whingeing and suggesting the umpires denied India their due. Just stick to the facts.

  • Hassan on December 10, 2007, 13:05 GMT

    Once again an awsome knock from Faisal Iqbal. Your uncle (Javed Miandad) is proud of you.

  • A.Siddiqui on December 10, 2007, 12:52 GMT

    Interesting thread Kamran......as always it invokes impulsive responses from the fans...most of whom did not play cricket to really understand the dynamics that underpin the canvas or the painting.....As any laymen would proclaim that Younus is a key pin in the squad and pretty much indispensible from what remains from the constituents in our team if he is not in it.....I liked the comparisons made with...Steve Waugh. I think what he brings to the side is sheer mantle and spunk needed otherwise to a very brittle line up....he is a fighter and will always go out fighting without giving in....Moin Khan had similar traits..not extraordinary in style or talent but extraordinary in resilience and that "never say die" attitude...now if that comes with a price like authority, ego and eccentricity, then these are traits that you would see in great leaders, like Imran, Vivian Richards, Loyd etc...so this is looking at the other perspective.....Younus's perspective... Understand him.. A. Siddi

  • Flipper on December 10, 2007, 11:39 GMT

    What have we learnt from this test series, with only 2 days to go? 1, Hameed, Iqbal, Sami & Kaneria ain't good enough. 2, w/o an all rounder, the team lacks balance. Why is Afridi not there? Why does the selection panel believe that either Hameed or Iqbal will score more runs? I do not blame YK for being upset. Who would want to captain a team that is clearly a poorly selected one and, to be frank, didn't have a hope in hell of beating India. Finally, to state the obvious, why pick Akhtar (or any bowler) if he is not 100% fit? The team selection has made me so angry. Hameed has only ever scored runs against Bangladesh, Iqbal has never scored runs against anybody, Sami has the worst bowling average of all time amongst those with over 50 wickets, and Kaneria only has a half decent average because of his wickets against Bangladesh and his habit of picking up wickets after a batsmen has already pummelled a 100 or 200. How can you expect YK to lead a team with 4 duds and an unfit bowler?

  • ASIF on December 10, 2007, 3:54 GMT

    It is surprising to read Ramiz Raja's statement in which he mentions Misbah ul haq should be the captain as he holds an MBA degree. I don't really understand why you need to have an MBA degree & good command over english to be the captain.Ramiz raja himself was never a good captain with all his degrees & good english.Even the partial pcb officials appointed Salman as the v.captain just because of his english speaking ability.If speaking english & holding degrees can improve your game than Javed miandad & Inzamam would not have become all time greats & good leaders.Cricket is a professional game played on the field in which college degrees & english has no role to play. Also it is not necessary for the players to speak in english if they are not able to do so. My suggestion to misbah is that he should continue to focus on his batting as pak needs his batting more than captaincy.Younus in tests & Afridi for one days will be the perfect choice. Also pak need afridi in tests too

  • Indian on December 10, 2007, 2:15 GMT

    Javed Khan, what makes YOU an expert on the "team goals and team priority" of the Indian team? To me, a series win is THE team priority. It doesn't matter if it is 1-0 or 2-0. Putting up a 600+ score and consuming two days takes Pakistan further away from a series-leveling win. I understand that you are frustrated because of it. Sorry, but you are going to have to live with that.

    India hasn't done well in Bangalore lately, including the loss to Pakistan two years back. This was a solid decision by Kumble. Excellent confidence boosting batting practice for Ganguly and Pathan ahead of the tour to Australia.

  • Naveed Sheikh on December 10, 2007, 0:12 GMT

    Well Well, all i can say that the pakistan team are dead and buried and my guess is that they are heading towards where the west indies are. This series proves that the team are unfit, have no decent bowlers and only have 2 class batsman. Gone are the days when all teams in the world feared the pakistan bowling attack. The only way forwards is to look at the youth and give them a chance as the current team cannot bowl, field and bat. Its a sad period for pakistan cricket

  • Rohit on December 9, 2007, 23:02 GMT

    Mr Javed A Khan , Kumble was looking to bat Pakistan out of the series , not help his batsmen attain records. At no point did the batsmen go defensive , always maintaining a run rate of 5+ over.In fact after Pathan got his century , the team carried on batting , indicating Kumble had no intention of declaring. In the last match after getting 600+ Pakistan avoided the follow on , so he was just ensuring series victory. What is wrong with that?Some Pakistani batsmen are in excellent form. Winning the series is the highest team priority I would think.India still have plenty of time to win this , similarly Pakistan can bat out a draw if they show application like they did in the last match. For India the series is as good as won , thanks to their "selfish" nature of the batsmen scoring runs and big hundreds.

  • ubaid on December 9, 2007, 20:19 GMT

    Some one here referred to egocentricity as the main problem. In Developemental psychology the egocentricity reffers to a toddler of age 2, according to " Piaget". The favourite word is " No" and the toddler is very uncooperative. Sound familliar?. I am glad that Mr. Khan is not leading the side on a consistent basis. I hope we can be spared his temper tantrums in the future as well. I am surprised that we are even having this debate. He has put the country 2nd many times. I can't say he is the only one. This is a prevalent part of our society. You can talk the talk but in the end its all about " Me". I don't think this will change. Younis is stuck at an earlier stage of developement and will not come out of it magically. He needs therapy.

  • JAVED A KHAN MONTREAL, CANADA. on December 9, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Kumble has gone 2nd time defensive in this series. At Kolkata his late declaration resulted in a draw. He has done it again. Even a 500 1st innings total was enough to put Pakistan under pressure but as usual Indian players go for personal records and personal milestones, for them team goals and team priority is not important. Hence he allowed Ganguly to score his double hundred and Pathan's maiden test 100 only for records. It would have been more challenging to declare 1 hour before tea when the Pakistanis were tired and exhausted. He should have realized that in the 2nd innings Shoaib Akhtar, even if he bowls will not last more than 6 overs and the rest of the bowlers are mediocre. But I guess Kumble is aiming for a 1-0 win & not 2-0. As regards Akhtar, Pakistan should say good bye to him and forget him coz out of 94 test in 10 years he played in only 46 and sat out in 48 due to fitness problems, bans and the 46 he played are full of acting, dramay-bazi, for that there is Bollywood.

  • VALEIYAH KHAN, Karachi on December 9, 2007, 14:58 GMT

    Why is everyone wasting their precious time in commenting upon a non productive team? I gather that all of us are still amidst recovering from "post traumatic stress" i.e. the intolerably cruel reality of poor team performance by the Pakistani cricket squad, time after time.My heart goes out to those of you, planning your schedules around test matches and ODIs.I believe that this blog space has atleast provided you all with a mutual corner to lament! My new year's resolution is a deliberate vow to stop following Pakistani team's tours.

  • saqeebadnan on December 9, 2007, 14:35 GMT

    Crisis every where not only captaincy but also in bowling,batting,wicket keeping & fielding department. It will be better to bring back Wasim,Waqar,Moin,Miandad,Muddasar,Amir Sohail,Saqln,Qadir & Sayeed Anawar.They will perform better than present team. Otherwise, PCB chief may take responsibility of captaincy,like Parvez Musharaf who is president same time army chief. This is last solution

  • Omer Admani on December 9, 2007, 9:32 GMT

    The match highlited a fundamental weakness in the Pakistani bowling line-up (apart from all the other weaknesses that actually bowl). The left-handed Indian batsman has been impossible to get out and the bowlers don't simply know where to bowl to a left handed batsman. A left-handed bowler should have been played and Tanvir bowls beter to left-handed batsmen. Watching Pakistan cricket has become unbearable now and it takes heart to see the bowlers get battered all the time. Akhter should be done with already and 3,4 fresh fast bowlers need to be introduced with competition amongst them (as India has done now). We might still not get Wasim Akram, but we might get the RPs and Pathans. At least these 600s might become 400s then and Pakistan might have a chance.

  • Ifthekar Ahmd Mohd, Lahore on December 9, 2007, 5:17 GMT

    Javed Kahan , if you start writing here, God help Cricinfo and its readers.

  • Awas on December 9, 2007, 2:02 GMT

    sachin fan, sometimes I wonder how Mr Abbasi allows comments like these but often blocks retorts. How is a large posting any less democratic than a short one? The statement is a contradiction in itself. For your information, many posters other than JAVED A KHAN have also written very long posts but he seems to be the one getting under your skin because of course you are just a “sachin fan” and he is not. On the other hand if the democracy you are referring to is some other type then I wouldn’t like to compare democracy such as a Zimbabwean one with the one that you may have in mind as Mugabe too is an elected leader of his country but the whole world is opposed to his type of democracy. A true democracy is synonymous only with real freedom and its human rights record and Pakistan’s record on human rights abuses is no worse than its neighbours. On the contrary, in a system where a state minister can openly justify murder and still allowed to cling to his office is a sham democracy.

  • Javid on December 9, 2007, 1:46 GMT

    Please reserve a bed for Shoab Akhtar in some nursing home (old house)so he can live his last days in peace. He is a liability now not an asset.

  • Awas on December 9, 2007, 1:41 GMT

    A wonderful knock by Yuvraj and Ganguly too albeit against a weakened Pakistan attack. Younus would be ruing the dropped catch of Yuv. If he had held that catch Pakistan would have been batting by now on this first day. After all the pre-match talk by Younus of we would go for all out attack and then go with three specialist bowlers and one all rounder only is perplexing. It is evident that we are a bowler short as India is piling up the runs.

    This 1000 characters window is quite hampering and I am agree(khansahab) here. So, if the long posts are not allowed anymore then would shorter multiple posts be possible? Surly, it would makes mockery of the new rule Mr Kamran Abbasi. I don’t think length should be the issue. It’s the quality that matters.

  • EAMiran on December 9, 2007, 1:20 GMT

    Before Pakistan's disastrous World Cup I wrote that we would do poorly given the fact that 2 of our main bowlers (Akhtar and Asif - both fully fit at the time) were not able to play. Since then I have continued my tirade against the mediocrity that is churned, regurgitated and then blessed by the PCB. As a result Pakistan's drubbing in test cricket continues unabated. Unfortunately, our once fabled fast bowling reserves have dwindled to nothing, with little else in the pipe-line. In truth, and worryingly so, a half-fit Akhtar is still the best bowler we have, which does not say much for the others. Gul is not much more than honest, while Asif's injuries and lack of pace are a cause for concern. I finally concede Akhtar's time is up, not that it will make a difference to our fortunes or the results. Pakistan cricket's competitiveness draws ever closer to the end, even as it's 2 remaining Musketeers (the 2 Y's) continue their futile battle against the inevitable.

  • Asad Faizi on December 9, 2007, 0:52 GMT

    Kamran,

    Please don't make it look like it is Yunus' fault. If there is anyone to be blamed for it, it is the totally incompetent and utterly inept bureaucrats at the helm of PCB.

    Stupidity and arrogance are a lethal mix, and Nasim Ashraf is very well endowed with it. He had the audacity to chase Waqar Yunus out of the role of Pakistan's bowling coach. I am not surprised that any self-respecting would refuse to lead Pak team under his control.

    Unless we bring in greats like Wasim Akram, Waqar Yunus, Asif Iqbal, Mushtaq Muhammed, to lead PCB, Pakistan cricket will continue to suffer.

    Asad Faizi

  • Ibrahim on December 8, 2007, 19:22 GMT

    Wahid and Imran Hussain (UK) are both right. And Afridi, entertainer though he may be, a choice for captaincy? Are you kidding? There's more to captaincy than raw aggression. By the way, for Khansahab/I am agree the 1000-word abomination is there to ensure that people like you don't sit typing on blogs all day and wasting your own and the readers' time, and to ensure that you get up every now and then and stretch your legs. Ta, old boy.

  • Merajuddin on December 8, 2007, 17:44 GMT

    I think the main problem we have had in last two test matches is our inability to field 11 fit players. No matter how great a player is if one is not fit then one should not be in the playing eleven. It is that simple. If you are selecting fast bowllers and you hvae only 3 to start with, it is quite essential to ensure that they wiuld bowl atleast 50-55 overs in a day on a greenish picth. Otherwise, it would spell trouble. With unfit Shoaib in the playing eleven, it makes the job of other seemers a donkey work. In this we should take a leaf out of India's book. They are not playing anyone with a niggle; not even a certain player named Sachin Tendulkar, who is by the way in a fine form.

  • SHEHZADD on December 8, 2007, 17:38 GMT

    so why not better to remove those wrong rankings from the official website of pcb.com.pk. than we can find a true talent from our domestic cricket, even that ranking system is totally wrong. I dont know who made these rankings but I swear for me only those ppl r behind the Pak cricket team faliure in WC and India. please remove these rankings. these rankings r totally wrong if u dont include the likes of umar akmal, sohail khan etc. How can u include those bowlers in top 20 ranking taking 10 wickets in a season like ashar zaidi etc.. These ppl r sick ppl. they destroyed Pakistan's cricket.

  • shazad - California on December 8, 2007, 15:06 GMT

    Dear Sachin Fan It is nice to know that you do care about democracy but you should also care about Equality as well which is available outside india. All human beings are equal and please bring equality and try to eliminate ZAT PAT. Cheers

  • Yousuf Hasan on December 8, 2007, 14:31 GMT

    I guess now the question is whether Pakistan will lose 0-1 or 0-2 to India, after another dismal 1st day of a test match. I foresee blood-letting should Pakistan be incapable of another Kolkata miracle. First to go would be Geoff Lawson. The board members would be on the chopping block too. Its hard to visualize Shoaib Malik being stripped off his captaincy since he's hardly been in the team in this tour. Nevertheless, its a shame Pakistan didn't opt for the option Shahid Afrid mentioned recently, that is have Mohammad Yousuf as captain for the test side and Shoaib Malik as VC and captain for the One-Dayers. Perhaps the next 4 days of the final test might bring back that option to the forefront again...

  • Saurabh on December 8, 2007, 13:55 GMT

    Pakistan's team selection was baffling. Unlike India, they needed to win this Test, yet they went in with just 4 bowlers, one of them unfit. Even after paying the price in Kolkata, they decided to play an unfit Akhtar. Since he hasn't been on the field for at least two sessions, even if he takes the field on the second day, he won't be able to bowl till after tea, leaving Pak with 3 bowlers (one of them Kaneria). I can't see Pak winning the match from here.

  • Ashaq on December 8, 2007, 13:27 GMT

    So Kamran dude, when are you gonna post a thread and ask the good Doctor sahib. " let it go" get back to Gynaecology.

    Perhaps another one concerning Sallahuddin. I think the guy should change his name its sacrilige and whats more he has been sacked nine times previously. I wonder why.

    finally Afridi, for captain, and Afridi as the Frontline Spinner. Kickout Kaneria, snd him to the Russian balet or whatever where he can perform in front of learned individuals.

    On second thoughts lets kick out all this intellectual, Operah watching, caviar eating. weirdos in the PCb and get some people who know something about sport into the Game.

  • L K Bal on December 8, 2007, 12:39 GMT

    Great thing this limit of thousand words..and some people feel they have to use text language!! good lord..good riddance !! ..they sure must be feeling impotent!!

    if one cant get his/her message across in thousand words..then he better not contribute!! so kamran i totally support you..anyways we all were bored with these so called regular posters!!..and some one posted readership willbe down by 33 percent!! wow..is he nostradamus?

    ok back to cricket..pakistan lost a golden chance today..and its all because of akthar and his antics@@ ..if he was so unfit ..why play the match!! he has lost us a chance to win and level the series..a more fit bowler might have prevented the 3oo run partnership..how come he is always fit to disco?

  • Asif Sarfraz on December 8, 2007, 12:03 GMT

    Last night I watched a program 'Cricket Legends' on ESPN Classic.

    It was about Imran Khan I was so happy and it brought back so many good memories of great captain and leader he was.

    We need someone like that who can install a winning mentality into the team, and to be perfectly honestly I do not think we have anyone that could do that in our current set-up!

    I just kind of watched the first day third test in Bangalore. What a shambles yaar!

    But I got to say Yuvraj Singh is an excellent player, he has not played in this current series but the confidence of the man!

    We need serious players not a bunch of jokers that we have on the field right now!

    Mohammed Sami, Danish Kaneria, I do not know what to say about these guys!

    I have lost total faith in the team and I can not see a short term improvement! And if there is a long term one then it is going to take a very long time!

    Look how long we have had the problem at the top of the order.

    Ashamed pakistan supporter

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA. on December 8, 2007, 11:16 GMT

    So far whatever I wrote abt 3rd test has come true. I said, Actor cud pull up ne thing and he did, now in hospital he never disappoints us. Its hard to win a match with this bowling attack which is OK for 20/20 game. Also, I said 10dul's exclusion will not effect India's batting as UV is in, that came true. And why shouldn't YK refuse to captain when the selectors choose a team that is not balanced. Now Arafat & Kaneria also showing signs of fatigue and may burn out. Unless Pak batsmen put up a huge total they cannot defend this match. Sachin's exhaust fan U R free to worship ur God coz he always has better & greater reasons than ne one and being ur God he is never wrong but can u can't deny he is selfish? Coz UV was held for so long at the expense of a spent force. I think all the old horses must retire and give room for players like UV Gambi and IKP. Gud to see many people on this blog are missing Shahid Afridi's bowling and are demanding from the PCB to appoint him as the captain.

  • I am agree(khansahab) on December 8, 2007, 11:05 GMT

    javed khan,was tht realy u earlier writin in txt lingo?no new msg 4rm u on ma blg.wasim saqib rote msg,chk it out.learned regulars-wher u bin m8s?get active n strt posting n complainin.evry1 chk wasim saqibs post on ma blg.need to do somat abt dis character limit prob.wonder how mr abbasi feels.india hav dominatd now,sami iz rubish n akhtar in hosp!kaneria dosnt luk at his best,arafat tried wel wid new bal.regardles of futur of my blg i think learned regulars shud hav meetin ther n discus wot 2do abt postin.mayb mak 1 new blog 4 evry1 wher al can contribute n strt post.da ppl who dnt write loads n want smal posts lyk sachin fan can remain hapy wid new blg rules.wot did u wana talk abt javed khan wen u left msg on ma blg?txt bak.oh sorry- i meant, a reponse would be most appreciated :)

  • Daaniyal on December 8, 2007, 10:10 GMT

    Javed A Khan Saab,

    ..Point well made Sir..However, reading that 'txt lingo' of yours brought tears to my eyes...pure torture.... always look forward to your perceptions on this page...

  • sachin fan on December 8, 2007, 6:43 GMT

    Khansaheb , whatever your name is , I don't agree with you. There is reason why blogs are limited in characters text, otherwise people like Javed Khan from Montreal will go on and on forever and make this Blog boring. Kamran Abassi is a smart writer and it would get mundane if only few posters are allowed to dominate. We have democracy outside pakistan and sadly you are unaware of that. Pakistan is doing great in 3rd test and hopefully we will see some result. I don't care who wins. I have to now stop posting or I will end up sounding BORING like some of fellow posters hint hint LOL ;-)

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on December 8, 2007, 5:44 GMT

    This window of opportunity has 1000 characters and it runs faster than a taxi meter, the only difference is, it depletes very fast whereas the taxi meter goes up. This is not Mr. Abbassi's or Pakspin's rule but this is applicable on ALL the blogs on cricinfo check posting guidelines. Anyways, whatever it is, it has devoid us of fun, the motivation and the urge to write will deplete. I don't think the blog will die but it will certainly loose its charm and attraction. Although the Bangalore wicket is favouring batsmen but so far the Pakistani seamers have bowled well, especially Akhter's 4th over to Dravid was eggcellent. I hope he continues to bowl like this. Arafat got 2 wickets and Sami also got one. Still Pakistan is a bowler short. Its hard to win a match on a wicket like this with only 4 regular bowlers. Afridi is the man who should have been in the team in place of Faisal Iqbal to add strength to the bowling dept. The only all-rounder in the team is Arafat! 3 for 51 now.

  • Muhammad Tariq on December 8, 2007, 5:23 GMT

    As we all know that Younas Khan is a very streight forward and a simple man. He will give his 100% to the team every time. In my opinion he will accept catpaincy but not in these cercustances. I guess he want it like the other KHAN the legend of cricket IMRAN KHAN. AS A CAPTAIN OF PAKISTAN, He does'nt want to be a dummy captain, He wants that his contrymen respect them even in bad times, He wants his full roll in every matter of the team including the selection of the team. These or not much from the Capatain. Give him all these to Khan then I believe he will prove that Pakistan is a No.1 in the world.

  • JAVED A KHAN MONTREAL, CANADA on December 8, 2007, 4:35 GMT

    O Admani u r rite abt Malik I am agree. Esp. since Malik tuk contrl of pres conf. wich is very selfish act, give YK the credit he deserves. khansab I am agree, I already LOL at rationing & quota sys. Lets comNecate in txt lingo frm now. Mr.Abasi can allow vulgar names like CK-Dhakan but can't tolerate more than 1000 caracters? I told him I am agree nat and this blog is no more fun. I mite seriously thnk abt writing here. Nevr herd of such restrictions on ne blog b4. ne ways abt 3rd test without 10dul or dhoni Ind is not weak coz UV and GMBe are in. Actor is fit but he can pul up ne ting new & dis pitch is ez 2 bat tos crucial but not everyting pak need 2 bat gud. My bad - my txting ability is zero I beta stop now. Gud luck 2 all esp to PaksPin's future. khansab chck-ur-blg.

  • Majid on December 8, 2007, 3:09 GMT

    Younus Khan is Pashtun and he will never be a dummy captain or a puppet.

  • Irfan Khan on December 8, 2007, 2:36 GMT

    Kamran, I think it is a good step to restrict the characters however I am surprised why have you not posted two of my previous posts?

    Other thing I want to suggest is that after posting any new thread you should occasionally join comments section. This will make your threads more interesting and will keep them on track. Saying that you may have been doing this already with other names but surely worth thinking if you are not.

    In my previous post (which I sent yesterday), I said “Malik's example is like when elder son refuses to marry after the announcements of wedding date and parents have no option other then forcing younger son (who is still a student)for this marriage. Parents think "KOI GUL NAI JEE MUNDA THORA JAYA AWARA EE AEY JADOUN ZIMADARI PAEY GI TAY SUB KUCH SIKH JAEY GA.

    So without a surprise Malik is learning but he feels insecure that is why he has been interfering in silly issues, he should have gone back and left Younis to deal with third match.

  • I am agree(khansahab) on December 7, 2007, 22:48 GMT

    This 1000 character limit is a joke. Cornered tigers face extinction and so does Pakspin if the restrictions as regards word limits are not lifted. Pakspin is my favourite blog and I can't tolerate seeing it crumble to pieces. Strangely some incensed and offensive posts have been allowed within the past month or two, as have some politically motivated comments. However, largely comments of learned regulars (Javed Khan, Wasim Saqib, Awas, Omer Admani, Osman Ali, Eamiran, Euceph etc) who have a huge hand in making Pakspin as popular as it is have not been allowed and this character limit will also succeed in dissuading them from posting. My prediction is that if the learned regulars stop posting, Pakspin’s readership will fall about 33% and the blog will only be half as much fun as it is. And it definitely won’t be very witty or humorous.

    My appeal to Pakspin lovers is to raise protests against this recent abomination. I specially appeal to the learned regulars mentioned above to assist me in this purpose.

  • Fouad Khan on December 7, 2007, 22:40 GMT

    ok... admittedly, we are a little low on talent in all departments these days, much less, batting. But the show Younis has been putting up in intolerable. His repeated denial of the leadership offer is a slap in the face of pakistan cricket and a clear statement about his loyalty to the side. If he was an Australian, this would've been the end of his career even if he averaged 60.

  • hasanat murtaza on December 7, 2007, 21:26 GMT

    if i would only add the pakistani captain should read rudi gulliani's book " leadership" then would really understand what does it take to be a great leader.i can imagine one would argue it is not war but only a game ...considering that aspect too a able leader must extract the best from his collegues under toughest odds.yunus is the best option

  • Omar on December 7, 2007, 21:24 GMT

    Kamran, nationalism is for the illiterate. Pls do not mention that in columns as a reason for doing something wrong. we exist for ourselves and family, and if as a leader we cant make the decisions then what difference does it being a leader.?

  • Jonathan on December 7, 2007, 20:54 GMT

    Kamran, I am surprised that you being a Pakistani does not blame PCB and yet hold Younis accountable.

    What kind of person can stand for the pride of his/her Country, if he/she doesn't pride him/herself?

    Even people outside Pakistan can see how and what kind of people make PCB,a real pathetic joke, hand picked by some imposed leader. If the PCB members had any meaning to their COUNTRY PRIDE, they would have either cleaned their act up or left their jobs for someone better but they make it look so simple how money hungry they are.

    Please have some respect for someone who can stand on & by his beliefs cuz that individual(and not the money grabbers) most certainly brings PRIDE to the COUNTRY.

  • Omer Admani on December 7, 2007, 20:54 GMT

    I think the problem might be, Malik as a less senior player and as an off-field captain in this instance, disregarded Younis's consent on whom to play in the final 11. It would have been like, seemingly, that Malik chose the 11, and then after all that was done, went and told Younis that he will play this team (or never told him at all what the team will be)and he is the captain, at the very last moment. Younis might not have taken this well, to be a dummy of Malik in this instance. That is what I can think of, and hence his statement to the newspapers that he didn't choose the team. He might not have liked the authority of Malik over him, and that would be the case if Malik doesn't deserve to be in the team and cannot commad respect through his abilities as a batsman in the first place.

  • Imran on December 7, 2007, 20:06 GMT

    He's not really the big problem. Malik isn't a dead cert as a test batsman, forget his rubbish bowling, where are you Asim Kamal, Afridi(yes his test average is quite good - plays more sensibly at test level if you've watched him last couple of seasons and he's aggressive and a handy bowler, likely to get a wicket or two, please take note Mr Kaneria- who drops his head two quickly. Bring back Saqlain please, fitness permitting. Get these silly openers booked up for extensive academy training in between matches, anyone not committing to working on their game should be told to get lost. Same with the fast bowlers and their lack of fitness work. Re-hire Waqar, then Wasim,Qadir, Miandad etc to train our back up and frontline players. Sack the corrupt bureacrats and cut their pay. Leave poor Younis alone.

  • Dont Shy Away Now on December 7, 2007, 20:04 GMT

    The unwritten rule in being part of any team is that you may be called upon at any time to take up a leadership role. This is also true in the case of YK and the Pakistani team. He has chosen to be a part of this team and if the team needs a leader and specifically asks him to step up to the plate, he should oblige or remove himself from the team completely. He should do it not for the board but because thats what the public wants from him and as part of the national team, you owe something to the public. Some may argue that him playing well is enough of a contribution but I would argue that unless you are offering a hundred percent of everyting that you have to offer, its never really enough, now is it? A big part of what YK can bring to the table in this stage of his career is leadership and he should leave aside the personal ego and fulfill that duty.

  • Jack Murphy on December 7, 2007, 20:03 GMT

    Kamran : Nice debate indeed. As always a lot of very emotional comments. Just 2 cents to add:

    Younis knows he is the most capable person for the job in the team. Younis wants to manipulate and monopolise the situation to have more say in the selection much like Inzamam and Imran. Younis pretty much hates everyone else in the team except Yasir Hameed. It is people like Younis ..that guys like Asim Kamal and Faisal Iqbal don't get a chance to be in the team. Some of the performances of Younis and Yousuf remind me of the political non-cooperation exhibited by late Imran Khand and Majid Khan in their hey days while playing under Asif Iqbal. All politics in Pakistan cricket owes to the vile existences of Imran and Majid Khands.

    Shoaib Malik should remain sick for the rest of his cricket career and spare us all his 'talents'. Kamran Akmal good that you scored a century on a dud wicket..but what about DROPPED catches ?? Now Kaneria ..hype ...Afridi is better any day.

    Jack

  • Adnan Gul on December 7, 2007, 19:45 GMT

    Younis Khan, for me is a bit selfish when it comes to Caiptancy. I do not understand how can you claim to be a dummy captain. first you have to prove yourself as a captain like Imran Khan or JAved miandad or even Wasim Akram to dominate the PCB without that claiming to be authorised captain. I do not understand.

    I do not beleive after taking over the captaincy he will do some majic to win matches with the same team. I suggest him to concerntrate on his batting and do best to lead in Banglore to win and squuire the series rather claming popularity by wronge decision in media.

    PCS should ban players writing in Media to avoid any further problem for Pakistan and the Team.

    For us Pakistan is more important than Yonis or any individual, players come and go remains is Pakistan only Pakistan.

  • Alex on December 7, 2007, 19:13 GMT

    Younis is a good test batsmen without a doubt. However to be a leader u need motivation and if you lack hunger for a job then u are best staying away and i think he is doing the right thing. The ideal choice is Afridi. Someone who can play with passion and fire and get his team motivated. Otherwise is Shoaib Malik's place is in danger..which it should be as he hasn't really demonstrated much in the way of leadership then promote Yousuf as captain and Misbah as vice captain. They are both mature and currently the best players! Plus Misbah can provide a bit of grey matter to the situation if Yousuf lacks it.

  • sameen rana on December 7, 2007, 19:01 GMT

    In my opiion he does not deserv to be a captain. he appeared to me a person who want the power but no accountability.he is happy to be a vice captain cos if team loss he is not the one to get the blame , and in case he i stand in captain then also he can blame it to others .. he wasted two- three years being the vice captain pakatan could have appointed any one else in is place .may be SM and by now he would have been a good leader ..

  • Wahid on December 7, 2007, 18:52 GMT

    Some of the comments on here are unbelievable. Younus is one of Pakistan's best batsman. At least he is challenging the PCB for what he wantes, we normally moan about the pCB and how they do things but when someone is aggressive towards them, Pak fans side with the PCB. Lets not forget that Pak fans are the most ungrateful fans in cricket. This could be a reason why Younus doe snot want to be the captain because of the experience in the past i.e. angry fans confronting him at the airport. I've heard people say make Misbah captain, are you having a laugh, they guy scores a century, no doubt he is a good player but its too early for him and how would Yusuf, Akhtar etc feel. WHy not make Misbah president of Pakistan. PCB are rubbish and so are some Pak fans. I prefer Younus to Malik as captain of Pak any day. Pak need Afridi as well as Razzaq. Lets hope Asif doesn't get injured before the Australia tour

  • Noor on December 7, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    PCB Cahirman said dicipline is very essential what R U talking about look at Shoaib Akthar he has his photo in jang-group.com for 12-07-07 news paper just look at that dancing in disco,signing the movies ,this gusy does what ever he likes nobody stops him.What a shame they should have been concentrating & staying in the hotels & focusing on next game,but instead siging contracts & making money.Is the team so hungry for money that the money has taken over patritoism .What a Shame. Please do not detroy the this game atleast I love it we love we all love it .Any player body who has no love has no place in the team period.....

    Kamran Bhai go ahead U can edit if U want but plz put it up .Love U Eid Mubarik .....

  • Manoj on December 7, 2007, 18:03 GMT

    Shahid Afridi should be made captain!! period.

  • Noor on December 7, 2007, 18:01 GMT

    Hockey.Squash have lost all the glamour & love among the people of Paksitan.Cricket was the only sport which was left and that has not lost the glamour but has gown down in gutters .It really stinks .Thanks for foolish & rediculous polices by the Chairman the money making guy only. I don't have to elaborate it as now every pakistani knows about it .The team the mamngement ,the selection committee.Unbelivable why did they retired Inzi so soon he had at \least two years of cricket left in him .He would have groomed two or three guys for the Captains post .Because Nasim Ahraf was not happy with him . It has become more of liking & disliking of the person who cares about the countries pride... By the way what is he doing in USA & calling all the time to the team every day .Who is paying for that.Why is he getting US$300/day as daily allowance my god 18000 RS a day where is he spending that money .Is their any wheels to these deals. Ah he said discipline is very essential in team ...

  • Faiz Hanif on December 7, 2007, 17:11 GMT

    I think the mark of a leader is guiding a team or a group of people in crisis. I think Younis Khan instead of taking this as a challenge to lead the team after WC debacle chose to play county cricket and look after himself. So in my opinion he is not a leader but an enthusiastic cricketer who plays for himself and loves cricket. I believe if he could play international cricket for another country, he would do so in a heartbeat. His loyality is not with Pakistan cricket I think.

    So with that said lets leave him at that. Till he performs he is in the team. When he does not, like others he should be out of the team. This hair brained business of selecting him for vice captain when he is not interested in it has to stop. I am sure there is someone else in the team that can be a captain.

    In short one basic thing I believe is required for a leader is the want of a person to lead. I do not see how a reluctant leader can lead a mercurial team like Pakistan.

  • Razi Ahmed - Washington D.C on December 7, 2007, 16:52 GMT

    Education is the main reason for our failures in every walk of life.our never understand the meaning of averages they only count the last performance. They dont understand the meaning of repeatability and consistent performance. No vision? You may lose track of where you are going and may be easily distracted on detours. No process? Without a common process, the team may have miscommunications and misunderstandings about who is going to do what - and when. No plan? You will not be able to track progress. No risk list? You may be focusing on the wrong issues now and may explode on an unsuspected mine in later stages No business case? You risk losing time and money on the Cricket project. No Infrastructure? You may be unable to handle new talent, grooming, and selection issues as they arise and you will depend on unfit, underperforming players No evaluation? Don't keep your head in the sand. It is important to face the truth. How close are you really to your win and loss.

  • Sanity on December 7, 2007, 16:44 GMT

    It's about time we as a nation accept that our team is an average team and in the building process. However, we as people of our country do not afford our players the time to develop as team becasuse every series we play, we expect our team to win. with this sort of burden on the players, we will never win, becasue 75% of the players in the team are not even sure of their place in the team over an extended period of time.The solution to this problem is not who should be captain and who should be vice captain. we need to start with the grass roots. the problem being, all former players are quick to point out the problem, but none what so ever willing to do anything about it. Then why blame the players, when that's just the way cricket in pakistan is played and has been played for years. The point being, this team will always be an ordinary team till we don;t get the basics straight and allow for time and right ingredients to work things out.

  • Zaid from Sri Lanka on December 7, 2007, 16:39 GMT

    Well its do or die situation for Pakistan,but its for a draw in the series,even to make a draw they had to and have to fight so hard,it'll be worse unless talented people like ASIM KAMAL are not used,people have started to praise MISBAH to the extent of making him the captain,what if he was given a conctant chance when he was more younger,he would been a good captain and player with greater reputation than Yousuf and Younis.When people like ASIM KAMAL given chances?

  • Ash Zed - Saudi Arabia on December 7, 2007, 16:22 GMT

    Who wants to lead a team of nincompoops ?? Why to blame Younis?

  • sachin fan on December 7, 2007, 16:19 GMT

    Sachin is more patriotic than Younis . He refused captaincy for greater good and let kumble be selected as captain. Younis khan is selfish and wants to be captain at his own term . Its about time PCB hand over captaincy to Misbah who seems to be true fighter. I am glad BCCI is better managed than PCB and with Gods will India will win this match and series and send pakistan team packing !!!

  • Fahad Khan on December 7, 2007, 15:26 GMT

    I support Younus Khan in his decision. He was willing to be captain until after the World Cup. When he came back to Pakistan, he was heckled at the airport, his family was insulted, and according to a Cricinfo article some 'fans' brought a donkey to his wedding reception and told him to ride it. Why would anyone want to lead a team if the consequences get so personal? Since these incidents, he has been saying he doesn't want to captain. If you are appointed captain, have no say in team composition (or other matters) at all, why would you want to captain and then have yourself and your family insulted for things that you could not even control? Why does the PCB keep throwing the captaincy at him when he doesn't want it. Groom someone else for captaincy and let Younus do what he is good at (bat).

  • Rohit on December 7, 2007, 15:23 GMT

    I know captaincy of either Pakistan or India comes with lofty expectations , immense pressure etc.. but please this is getting ridiculous.

    Like they say , uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.

    First we had Dravid giving up captaincy , Tendulkar declining it and now this incident with Younis. When is it going to stop?

    Being the captain of your national team should be the highest sporting honour , like being Chief of Army Staff is in the military , and yet instead of taking the challenge head on , we have these "cricketers" and "team players" chickening out of it for whatever reasons.

    In the future if senior players refuse captaincy they should be sacked from playing itself no matter how good they are, and young players groomed to take over the captaincy.We do not want to see mentally weak characters without guts representing their countries.

  • Abbas on December 7, 2007, 15:21 GMT

    No doubt younis khan is one of the finest batsman in this age. But as far as his captaincy issue is concerned..if he doesnt feel well to be a captain and lead a side...then y force him???

    He is right in saying tht PCB and pakistani dont support captains.. we have history littered wid once gud captains...thrown out..humiliated...whenever they got defeat

    It might also affect his batting...If some one is uncomfortable wid the job..let him feel free to play for his team just as a team member..

  • usama on December 7, 2007, 15:02 GMT

    wow... all u guys critisizing younus are running short on brain cells... put urself in his situation, ppl call u to be captain but dont listen to what u have to say.. and those of you who say younus isnt a team man, ur mindless as well, mr kamran, ur wrong. If younus lets it go today.. then pakistani captains of the future will suffer.. pakistani team meangament sucks.. ashraf isnt any better. Shoaib malik is soft, thus is reluctant to make decisions in the fear of his seniors. Misbah should hold the captaincy post soon.. but for now younus is the best we have.. and he cudve been the best we EVER had.. had it not been for poor pakistan management... suks

  • Khalid on December 7, 2007, 14:54 GMT

    This is off topic but still I would like to know that why is Faisal Iqbal playing in this team?

  • adnan on December 7, 2007, 14:34 GMT

    i dont think you can blame Yunus for any of this. He has clearly declined his want to be a captain in the past and I think the board needs to understand and respect his wishes. No doubt he is a very capable leader but I think more than looking at his credentials, we need to take a look at his justification. Cricket is merely a sport. Unfortunately our fans, media and board do not realize that. I would gladly lose to India for the next 100 yrs in cricket and beat it at things that are far more important like literacy rate. I actually think it is time we need to raise the awareness. It is nothing but a sport and losing does not make Pakistan look bad nor does winning make it look good. Hence the players are neither heros nor villians. They are just a bunch of individuals out there, doing what they do best. Play. Let them play and perhaps if we get our priorities straight it might even help our cricketers eventually.

  • Raf on December 7, 2007, 14:22 GMT

    This is absolutely absurd that we are still not talking about the larger, and consequently more expensive to PCB, matter; the issue of domestic cricket in Pakistan and how ethnicity plays a grave role in selection. Until the level of pitches, divisions/bias among Pakistan's different ethnicities are addressed, I feel all we are doing is maintaining an AVERAGE team. It wasn't always this bad. For a small patch of time, to be Pakistan's captain was an honor, mainly because the players looked at it as an honor; and for that patch of time selection was much more fair, this in turn produced world cup winners. Younis Khan needs to go. Maybe when playing against a weak team on a dead wicket in a test that needs not be won I will agree with his selection. Until then Mr. Ashraf needs to resolve the issues at the heart of Pakistan's captaincying, performance, and selection woes.

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on December 7, 2007, 14:03 GMT

    Younus has settled the rumours of rift. They say, like all strange tales, it will grow with the telling and thats what we ALL did here on this blog. The Scots say: "A Tale never loses in the telling, in fact it commonly receives an addition as it goes from hand to hand." And a story never loses in the telling - in the mouth of an Egyptian and they say; it goes from mouth to mouth like a ball of fire, hence the age old proverb came into existence, "ma adukh bidoon naar or, "no smoke without fire." Therefore, we should also end this rumour right here and see how the injured tigers and lions on both sides play the 3rd test? With Tendulkar/Dhoni joining Malik at the sick bay creating room for more exciting players like Yuvraj and Gambhir it would be good for a change. On the captaincy issue, the PCB prefers a weak captain so that they can twist his ankle at free will and he should be willing to strap it without any "choon-charaaq" (without a fuss). LOL at new character window.

  • Faraz Ishaq on December 7, 2007, 13:55 GMT

    Captaincy of Pak Cricket comes with a price, if you loose, your house is going to lit up for sure and if you win then you are the HERO. But in case of Younis, it is a dual sided sword, if he losses this last test as a captain, he losses the chance to captain this team again. To build on his resume, he has to win this game, and that is the only reason he is feuding with the board to give him the team he wants. Since Nasim Ashraf became the caretaker of PCB, nothing well has happened yet beside he had Inzi get retiring. If you watch the ICL, you can easily realize that Inzi still has some firepower left in him which we didn't want to ride on. Over and all, most of the players in current paki team doesn't deserve to be here and axing afridi was a no-brainer. I wish, pray and hope pakistan wins this last test but I am sure rain is going to ruin the chances. Shoaib Malik doesn't deserve to be in 11 in any form of cricket for Pak Cricket right now. God Bless this team..

  • DASHRATH on December 7, 2007, 13:50 GMT

    Iam a big big fan of Younis.From the time he has joined pakistan team I liked him not because he was a great batsman but bcoz he plays for his country. However, now he became one of the great batsmen. People are criticising that he lost his wicket in kolkta 1st ings by playing false stroke. Any body who was watching live wouldn't have said this. Bcoz Harbhajan was bowling dangerously at that point of time and Younis counter attacked him and hit him fours and sixes which made kumble to bring munaf into the attack. In the process Younis lost his wicket. No other pakistani dared to do that and younis did that. Even in second inings he reverse swept harbhajan at 99 showing tht he doesnt play selfishly. Just you watch him he always try to counter attack the best bowlers in oposition team.Younis never gets pok down and hence he is unable to tolerate his buffoon managers. I respect Younis and his decision and if he leads pakistan will become one of the greatest captains pakistan ever producd.

  • Karamat on December 7, 2007, 13:34 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi you are being too kind to him. I dont understand Mr. Khans problem. He is so damn emotional that he puts an American teenage girl to shame. "I think the pressure gets a bit too much in these India-Pakistan series. If you win the match, you're a hero. Otherwise ... It shouldn't be that way" Get over it! If you cant handle the pressure get out of the team cause last thing the team needs is sissies like your self. In another article on CricInfo regarding the second test captaincy he said "Shoaib Malik failed a fitness test at the last minute and I had to take over. I needed to take a lot of decisions in quick time." I mean give me a break. Stop making excuses for your lack of motivation and leadership.

  • mykins acaan on December 7, 2007, 13:30 GMT

    Younis khan is no mutt. He is without a doubt the best brain in pakistani cricket. However he understands the pressures and problems associated with the controlling board of pakistani cricket. The pressures from the bookies and the underworld as well as fickle fans merely make him a sitting duck. I believe the decision is personal, one which would effect his family and those around him. He is definitely the right choice but unfortunately plays for the wrong country. We in South Africa could do with such a tough character, batting second with balls of steel. Only in pakistan would they convince a player of his talent not to captain his country.

  • Reehan on December 7, 2007, 12:59 GMT

    Shouldnt the real question be why he does not want to captain the side? The PCB should find out what would make him captain the side. However the current administration hurts the team in terms of selection, support and a refusal to listen to its own players.

  • Imran on December 7, 2007, 12:53 GMT

    I can't believe all the flack he's getting. Who'd want to captain under the corrupt administration and set up we have. Why do the players always get the blame and not the useless bureacrats at PCB and their lackeys. Younis has proved that he is the most valuable batsman we have, buts he's disliked because he isn't as naturally talented/elegant strokeplayer as an Inzi or Yousuf, but lets remember Test cricket is all about occupying the crease and he does his job perfectly, barring a few lapses, statistics aren't a perfect indicator but you don't get that high a test average by scoring just to save your place. So give the guy a break. If anything the reason we are loosing is because we don't prepare bouncy seaming wickets at home and for practice and preparation- and domestic level. Players faulty techniques aren't monitored and worked on in between internationals. The fast bowlers haven't got a clue how to stay fit and in shape.Need to sort structure top down guys.

  • Shurjil on December 7, 2007, 12:31 GMT

    Younis Khan is a great player and the board should have enough sense knocked into them to enable him to focus on his batting.

  • tariq awan on December 7, 2007, 12:13 GMT

    i dont know whts next mission of pakistan cricket.no planing,no stratgey,no grip on cricket,everyday we heard a new news of pakistan cricket team .yesterday we suddly heard tht younis jhan refused captaincy.wht is going on with our team i dont know whr is our mangament.why our guys doing wht they want & why they are not doing wht pakistani nation want frm them.in my opion Misbah s/b the captain & shoib malik vice captain of pakistan cricket team.As Misbah is proved in very short time tht he is well establishd batsman,he has good phycique ,good temprament,good technique ,good eyes ,and most important is that he is well educated.in my opion he is best choice as a captain right now as pakistan team is in establishing stage.PCB should slos think about new players as if they will not give the chance to new players thn how we can improve our cricket.we are giving again and again chances to those cricker who already faild to prove himself so we should go for new cricketers as indian team.

  • Malik on December 7, 2007, 12:13 GMT

    U got to accept this that cricket in india and pakistan is no more viewed as game esp when they are playing each other. its a battle where u can have only winner.And then u have people who speak from commentary rooms as if they were Don Bradman's of their time. Thats rubbish on their part. Take for example rameez raja, atul vasun, arun lal. People are aware of thier cricket records.

  • Imran Hussain, UK on December 7, 2007, 12:02 GMT

    Dear Kamran

    I have to say that there is no difference between your opinions and that of a normal arm chair melodramtic Pakistani fan. Why are you attempting to degrade Younis's integrity? The man does not want to lead his side as he does not want to go through the awful scenes that were witnessed on his wedding i.e. when "fans" took a donkey at his Younis's wedding recetption and mockingly asked him to ride it. Pakistani fans and selectors are like no other...they expect the moon from our players without showing any decency (that fans i'm referring to here) themselves.

    I'm not saying that all Pak fans are like that but there are many that are...who would want to even think of captaincy (unless you are greedy) with fans like this.

    Kamran you have the easiest job in the world, sitting infront of your nice little computer and throwing darts without not knowing anything...we know what you know...so please don't pretend otherwise and do not drag Youni's good name down.

  • dilip on December 7, 2007, 11:31 GMT

    In the face off beteen individuals and boards i would always be with individuals.my respect for younis goes up a few notches bcoz of his reluctance to lead a side.what do you mean by country's pride mr abbasi.its a board of self serving individuals who claim to do things in the name of the country.we need more of younis,yousufs,dravids to make the public aware of what goes on in the name of country's pride

  • Nasir Malik on December 7, 2007, 11:04 GMT

    Most of the points raised above are OK with me, but I want to bring in another perspective. It is the non-professional attitude of PCB, full of favorites having little input in efforts to improve the team image and performance. I donot blame Younis to be the way he is, because he is a proud pathan and he will not bow down (very rightfully) to foolish ways the board likes him to operate. I personally think if the board can manage some sense and show confidence in him, he will have lesser concerns to become test captain (even if public attitude remains the same). In Pakistan we rate Imran Khan as the best leader of all time. Have a look at his relationship with the board during his time, specially in respect of team selection (he gave us Wasim, Waqar, Inzimam, Mushtaq). Younis is similar to him in this regard and I am quite sure if he is given a true power he can transform Pakistan team in a big way.

    Cheers

  • I am agree(khansahab) on December 7, 2007, 10:56 GMT

    I said I don’t like statistics- I never said “I don’t go for statistics”. If statistics would reveal the entire picture then I suppose most statistics would tell you that there can be little comparison between the class of Inzamam and Sachin Tendulkar. Try and look into the context of what I am trying to say rather than trying to make a futile point to get some fame and attention. When I said statistics are used by desperate or dying men to make a point, I had to use that “Australia/South Africa performance” statistic to make an important point about how Younis plays better bowling attacks better than Inzamam or Yousuf. However, like I said before, this may not reveal the entire picture, as it may be the case that when Younis played a few good innings against those oppositions, maybe the conditions favoured his type of batting more, maybe he was dropped on occasions etc etc. I think it is foolish to assume that someone will “not go for statistics” in the complicated world of today.

  • sahil on December 7, 2007, 10:53 GMT

    i think all of us r just reacting too soon in every case,malik's captaincy, misbah's good run and younis's captaincy denail,dont you all think that it is so unfair to judge malik with just few test matchs, dont you people think it is too soon to be praising misbah as we haveny seen him playing test cricket outside sub-continent, dont you feel it is unfair to blame younis as he is doing a favout to pakistan team by not accepting the full captaincy, as he has no other option other than performing and he is doing that well too, so leave him alone, let malik be captain and wait to see how misbah performs further, rather than rushing things, smith wasnt that successful as a captain when he started, even great batsmen failed and he we have 25yr old always performing player who is a good thinker also, give him some time as pcb has already decided, that will actually help pakistan image as well. let us all just look at the positives and avoid team from crashing!

  • Nauman Hassan on December 7, 2007, 10:34 GMT

    I always thought that a captain should be a fast bowler or a top order belligerent batman, as they depict aggression. Younis Khan's incessant snub is depressing, thus I believe that Shahid Afridi must be given an opportunity since he is one of the senior most player and captaincy will also knock some sense into his mode of batting.

    Mohammad Yousuf lacks a technician's brain! He appears to be mild and soft spoken.

  • Fayyaz Abbasi on December 7, 2007, 10:11 GMT

    Kamran bhai I agree with you but who would tell younis to use his head plus he ia a pathan. I think Shahid Afridi would have been a better captain in both type of games. He is fast and active on the field. Malik is a good or bad captain it's too early to say anything. Since he's a captain and a young player so i think we all should stand behind our captain. Younis khan has too much proud. Where he is getting the ideas who knows. Here he says games speaks itself and other day he says i don't want to be a captain. then he goes and run the game.

    Sorry was a bit emmotional and so was Mr.Khan. Please think of country instead of power. we all know you are better than any other but if you are either so dum or proud of yourself then get a life.lol.

  • Javed Miandad on December 7, 2007, 10:10 GMT

    I should be the captain and the coach too. And Im champion cuz I hit a 6 in sharjah. ok

  • Adnan Zulfiqar on December 7, 2007, 10:06 GMT

    I for one somehow agree with y.khan. I do understand you need to make decision in the national interest. But The selector keep picking the some players again and again. M. Sami for example we heard he was performing brillantly i n the domestic game but still wicketless in the test match . rao aftkar test match record is rubbish. Why not try someone new like abdur rauf. I understand Yonus Khand view point u cant win games and cant be confident in the team if you dont agree with the playing 11!! So come on Misbah see if u can cross the last hurdle as captain.

  • Abdul kader.k.a.from kadayanallur,TN,INDIA. on December 7, 2007, 9:49 GMT

    I don't know where pak cricket is going! I think it is going the way of windies where board had lots of problem with the team and captain(LARA),result? They lost so many matches , like them PCB also having more problem with players&Captain, result? Like windies pak also loosing so many matches! Unity is power, as long as pak loose that, i think pak won't win matches. And also pak need good management and leadership which pak doesn't have! Captain must be aggressive character like GANGULY & PONTING who are the best captains for their respective teams. So,i think YOUNIS probably the correct choice, he should continue as captain ,MALIK? may play as a batsman if some one injured. Bring ASIM KAMAL for MALIK.

  • Ali Hasan on December 7, 2007, 9:43 GMT

    I have to commend you for such a swift response to this news. I wrote to cricinfo just after reading the news asking that you start a blog on this, and after reading your post I have to admit, I could not have said it in a better fashion.

    I had a lot of respect for Younis-the great batsman, and for his service under trying circumstances. I still remember that series against Australia in which we triumphed 2-1 because of his 'nerves of steel'. But, just as you mentioned there is a limit to every thing, and if Younis refuses to captain for the third test, I have to say that I'd rather see him sent back to Pakistan. He would only have a negative impact on the team from there on. A country's priorities come before an individual's. I wish Younis realized this.

  • usman on December 7, 2007, 9:38 GMT

    I think this is a chance for Misbah, Misbah should be test captain i think. Because younis is not motivated. Misbah is a player for whom everybody has respect....

    I think he would be the ideal captain.

  • umar rashid on December 7, 2007, 9:29 GMT

    pak cricket board were always jokers and always will be, they wnat yes men without beards as captain. its obvious afridi as ODI captain Younis as test captain

  • cusk on December 7, 2007, 9:21 GMT

    WELL DONE and well said mr KAMI THE GREAT .. U earned the respect always that u ve been invested with..God bless u for that.. Younus Khan needs to help pakistan ease the pressure and lead from the front taken from the fact that THE CORNERED TIGERS need to show character and get out of the mess they r IN..

  • Rashid Zaman on December 7, 2007, 9:20 GMT

    It is a rumour!! Mr Abbasi you should be a bit more patient and await the official line! But patience is a virtue very rare these days! Still i am a fan of your blog and hope we can win this Test match to level the series and salvage some pride. Younis Khan is a great batsmen and a great leader and i understand his reluctance to lead as the PCB are a bunch of hypocrites!

  • Shahid Rafique on December 7, 2007, 9:19 GMT

    There is no point of staying with the team as Vice Caption and then refusing to lead the team, when caption is not fit enough to lead the team. He knows PCB’s style of management, then why did he accept this position if he is not willing to lead the team. Younis should step down for someone who has leadership qualities and willing to lead the team, so that someone can grow with the game and get mature and you can always have a standing caption, eager to fight. Younis has disappointed millions of his fans. PCB is a lab where idiots are always welcomed to make some experiments. There was no point of sending Afridi, Rao, Imran Nazir and young Sarfraz back to home. The consequences are obvious, you are short of 11 fully fit players and calling for cover couple of hours before the game starts. On top of that PCB has appointed Mr. Malik caption for test team while everybody knows that his selection for the test will never be justified. If can’t bowl and get wickets then we have better specialist batsmen waiting down the line to replace him. He might be a good one day caption, but surely test cricket is a different ball game ALL TOGETHER.

  • Hassan Abbas on December 7, 2007, 9:09 GMT

    Well, it was all a rumour and nothing more than that. Maybe there was something going on inside but the official news now is that this reluctancy of leading the side from Younis Khan was nothing more than a rumour.

    @ Khansahab You really are an interesting person. In the first few lines of your post u have written that u dont go for statistics. Then u have compared Younis' stats against AUS and SA with that of Yousuf and Inzi. So have have said and denied a statement in a single post. In simple words this is called hypocrisy buddy, you would be a goog candidate for Pakistan National Assembly if u keep denying ur statements so smoothly.

  • Shahid Rafique on December 7, 2007, 8:55 GMT

    There is no point of staying with the team as Vice Caption and then refusing to lead the team, when caption is not fit enough to lead the team. He knows PCB’s style of management, then why did he accept this position if he is not willing to lead the team. Younis should step down for someone who has leadership qualities and willing to lead the team, so that someone can grow with the game and get mature and you can always have a standing caption, eager to fight. Younis has disappointed millions of his fans. PCB is a lab where idiots are always welcomed to make some experiments. There was no point of sending Afridi, Rao, Imran Nazir and young Sarfraz back to home. The consequences are obvious, you are short of 11 fully fit players and calling for cover couple of hours before the game starts. On top of that PCB has appointed Mr. Malik caption for test team while everybody knows that his selection for the test will never be justified. If can’t bowl and get wickets then we have better specialist batsmen waiting down the line to replace him. He might be a good one day caption, but surely test cricket is a different ball game ALL TOGETHER.

  • sahil on December 7, 2007, 8:52 GMT

    well said mr.kamran but it seems you have jumped the gun and that too soon, it is not true that he denied it third time,these are all the rumours that are being spread as a strategy! when he was appointed a vice captain he always knew that he would be the one to take over if something happened to malik, so why should he deny it now! and he knows he backed up his leadership with a beautiful innings and he wouldnt want to spoil that by the denail and he hasnt done that! dont know why you couldnt wait and watch! he is leading and you will see HOW!

  • ASIF on December 7, 2007, 8:50 GMT

    I think younus should take over the captaincy permanently for the test matches & for one day matches shahid afridi should be made the captain. Malik should concentrate on his batting & bowling & should be part of the one day team only.Instead of Malik afridi should be part of both tests & one day teams.India are doing really well with two different captains & pakistan should try the same.I don't understand with pakistan's policy of neglecting Afridi.He can be a very good captain for the one days with his very positive,aggressive attitude & never say die approach. For the tests younus is the perfect choice & he should be asked to lead the side for a long term. Afridi should be the v.captain for the tests as he can give good advice to the captain & motivate the players.The problem with malik is he cannot talk to his players as he is very quiet & has a very negative approach.Also the captaincy is affecting malik's game.He is not able to score runs & is scared to bowl.It is very simple if the captaincy is a burden & affecting your game then it is better to play as a player.Tendulkar is a perfect example.But in the case of Malik he will find a place in the tests only if he is the captain & that is the reason the patial PCB officials appointed Malik captain for one year.

  • mashood yunus on December 7, 2007, 8:45 GMT

    good analysis on younis and there are number of haters of him, although he is a cool guy. this controversy can rest now since he has denied the reports in the media. let us get to the game!

  • Siddharth on December 7, 2007, 8:45 GMT

    Younis Khan is a fantastic player, my personal favourite in this Pakistan team. However, why Pakistan has to look to him time and again when he's clearly not interested beats me. For one thing, it might affect his batting by putting on him the very pressure that he wants to avoid. I'd rather have someone who's comfortable playing at the international Test level such as Misbah. He's proved in the very short time that he's played that he's a match-winner and someone who has it in him to excel in the toughest of situations. Being the captain of Pakistan requires someone who has the cool to handle the media and the weight of fans' expectations. Misbah, according to me fits the bill to a T. Shoaib Malik, if his recent performance as a captain or a player in ODIs & Tests is anything to go by, looks completely overawed by the big stage.

  • athar on December 7, 2007, 8:38 GMT

    Younis should lead pakistan in Test cricket and Malik should lead in one days. Malik should be drop from test cricket.

  • Ayaz on December 7, 2007, 8:35 GMT

    I belive there are some hidden fractures that are resisting Younis Khan to lead the side. Captain is one who is responsible for team's success and failure. So lets give him a free hand to select the team. Everybody knows pakistan has weak bowling attack at the moment. Kaneria is much praised for his less efforts also. Sami has promised never to take any wicket. Shoaib Akhtar only promises big dreams which are unrealistic. Rao Anjum is not dependable. So whats wrong if Mr. Khan wants Abdul Rauf (who is new). Lets give him a chance. Its high time for Younis to come forward and steal the things from selection and strengthen team.

  • Mohammed Fowmy on December 7, 2007, 8:34 GMT

    younis khan best captan 4 pakitan 4ever PCB must give him a chance. his best 4 in ground henling the playes very well younis the best choice

  • Ayaz on December 7, 2007, 8:34 GMT

    I belive there are some hidden fractures that are resisting Younis Khan to lead the side. Captain is one who is responsible for team's success and failure. So lets give him a free hand to select the team. Everybody knows pakistan has weak bowling attack at the moment. Kaneria is much praised for his less efforts also. Sami has promised never to take any wicket. Shoaib Akhtar only promises big dreams which are unrealistic. Rao Anjum is not dependable. So whats wrong if Mr. Khan wants Abdul Rauf (who is new). Lets give him a chance. Its high time for Younis to come forward and steal the things from selection and strengthen team.

  • faisal on December 7, 2007, 8:23 GMT

    I DISAGREE

    it is everybody'z right to accept or refuse captaincy,if he is not willing to lead,try someone else,and as far as relaibility is concerned,he is the most reliable of all the batsmen,you need not to go too far,just look at the last test match.So Mr.Kamran i totally disagree with you when you say that the 3rd time refusal might result in eradication of all sympathies for his stance.HE isnt in the team because of sympathies ,he is there for his performance and he i there because no one can challenge his postion in the team.

  • safwan umair on December 7, 2007, 8:22 GMT

    i totally agree with the article and also with what ashfaq said regarding adding some interest to pakistan's cricket.....although what i dont agree is people suggesting that younis khas is not a siensible player and throws his wicket away.....on how many occassions younis has also saved and won games for pakistan???? if you dissect sachin's stats then you would realise that he has hardly won or saved any test matches for india!!! so this criticsm on younis is absolutely futile n fruitless.

    As far as the captaincy is conerned though, there is no better option then younis for pakistan's captaincy as malik seems to be a miserable and thoughtless leader, though younis might still become captain if the selection policies are less mysterious and sifarshi (what is faisal iqbal doing in the team?? asim kamal was a much better option but where is he?)

  • Shafiq on December 7, 2007, 8:05 GMT

    Few sensible people believe, betterment is only possible by the change of system, not change of faces. Younis is among those sensible people, but sadly himself is product of this bad system. His smartness, his fight, eaglness, wit, agility & ego all represent it, despite his some poor shots in T20 final or leaving straight balls. Mistake is again by board not younis -:)

  • Shahid Khan on December 7, 2007, 7:55 GMT

    I do not blame Younis Khan for being left to pick up Shoaib Malik's inconsistent and experience-less captaincy mess, and PCB's inability to look for a true leader. One has to understand that now it require a win to draw the series given the players at hand. Therefore, no one want to take responsibility, if pakistan can't draw this series. What is at stake? The first losing captain on Indian soil after few decades, if I am not wrong. If there is anyone who don't want to go down in the history of cricket like this is, no other than Younis Khan. Beside the current scenario... Let us look for a suitable captain. Guess what, there are none. Any solution. YES, give the captaincy to who wants the most. Let, SHAHID AFRIDI, be the captain. This guy has true instinct for being a very good ODI captain. And, Let Misbah-ul Haq be the Test captain. This guy is a genuine, stong minded, player and can be a good leader sooner than later.

  • waqqas on December 7, 2007, 7:48 GMT

    Mr Abbasi im not the great fan of your coloumns. Since 06 worldcup i am reading u on and off .. people like you and rameez raja so called gurus of cricket have nothing to lose but even then your rubbish comments are messing the ideology of cricket.. have u ever played a good first class cricket match or have u been ever to cricket ground.. lol ... there are lots of people who have played international cricket but even then they dont have cricketing brain .. like rameez raja .. who are alians of the game... plz stop writing .... and find another job to do.. plzzz

  • Khairul Islam, Bangladesh on December 7, 2007, 7:44 GMT

    Shoib Malik does not have fire power. he does not have the leadership quality. So, I think Younis Khan can be a good leader for Pakistan.

  • Fayyaz Qadir on December 7, 2007, 7:41 GMT

    Well I am with younis Khan here. Pakistan`s cricke board has been realy senseless here ( and before) many times. Look at Razaq`s asence from the series. Earlier when other bowlers were injured Razaq with his bowling and not wih his batting helped pakistan win and not too long ago. His lack of pace is lame excuse for excluding him. People who really know about cricket know that slower bowlers with more intelligent bowling and with better control of the ball can actually bowl beter then fast bowlers. Anyway if younis asks for Abdur-Rauf give him Abdur Rauf let him take the responsibility, show faith in him , trust him. If you cant please dnot ask him to be a Captain. Younis if you are listening please donot except captaincy if you were not given the combination you had in mind. Brainless cricket managers have destroyed Pakistan`s cricket. Retiring Saeed before his time,they even made Inzi go away then sheer desparation made em bring him back. Plese in the long run we need people like Younis who can stand upto branless managers .Its not the Pride of Younis thats being challenged here its the ego of the selctors. So donot be a capatain. I think shahid Afridi would have madea better choice then anyother bowlers he actually bowls better e Kaneria but just because he is an allrounder he is considered a lesser bowler. Ha. His faster spinners would have worked better at Kolkata then any other bowler who played that game. We missed his bowling there.

  • josey on December 7, 2007, 7:32 GMT

    I am from India and am a great fan of pakistan cricket (not when playing aganist india). I feel younus has a point, pakisthan has always performed superbly under powerful captains who had there choice in selection and there own strong stand, whats wrong if he wants to do the same. And does PCB has another choice ????? I don't see a captain in that list (not even a fully fit Malik)

  • Kiran Ali on December 7, 2007, 7:20 GMT

    In defying India a win in the last test match, Pakistan cricket team has shown a glimpse of character under adverse circumstance, an event so rare in our recent cricketing history. It was incredible to watch Younis and Yousef play an anchor role in such a critical situation. If Younis does not want to be a captian, let us not force him. We must not lose a great cricketer simply because he does not wish to take up the lead management role. There are other able guys to fill this spot. Let him glamour with his bat.

  • ali sikander Tahiri on December 7, 2007, 7:20 GMT

    When I met Younis first time ever..I found him frenzied for Cricket and extremely obcessed. He was simple.. but Thats the story of the time when he was just considered for highest level cricket first time ever i-e somewhere in 1997/98. And as I see through media hes got some Thing which wasn't there at all and its is quite perceptive too. Question is 'theres no question of any kind of panic for you nor there is any trauma anymore except for the performance and fitness of our team, why would you deprive yourself from this Crown?.' The nation is with you, your successs and performance odds against India are higher and you chose to be a loser. If he is leading now he is brave otherwise all the introductions regarding knighthood fade!!!

  • SUNDARESAN on December 7, 2007, 7:17 GMT

    Mainly, the decision of Shaid Afridi to drop him from test has affected the team. He is a sort of player who can bowl, bat and do to change the test match. moreover, akthar should not have played in calcutta test. he was unwell and some other bowler had to play. younis is a sort of batsman who can change a test match, he needs support from lot of players and board. shoib malik is a soft captain. Youni should continue and there are chances of levelling the series. It has been done by pakistanis and hope some good test match is played.

  • Murtaza Makki on December 7, 2007, 7:08 GMT

    When Younis declined the Captaincy, when Inzimam retired mid this year, that should have been the last straw. PCB should have acted there and then and put it into their 'future planning'(...if there is one)that this man is not willing to lead, hence lets let him be and find someone we can groom and count on. I know a genuine lack of options led the PCB to revert back to Younis for a third time, however Younis declining to lead his country is indeed mind boggling but I firmly believe leaders are born not made and certainly not forced.

  • Wajid on December 7, 2007, 7:04 GMT

    Shoaib is proving to be the wrong choice as a captain. It is not too late even now to let Younis Khan lead the Pakistani team with example but ofcourse he needs to be given more say in matters of team selection and should get the replacements he is askng for.

  • Zuhair on December 7, 2007, 6:49 GMT

    But just why do we need Younus as a captain? Imran khan is not always right .His thoughts on Mohammad Sami made PCB play Sami 30 test matches for no good. And now Younus is our second choice captain because Imran stated so. He is a fine fine player, but he is no captaincy material I am afraid. He has one problem too many with teammates to lead the side. A reluctant skipper won’t serve the cause anyway. Although, it is a different issue that our original skipper, Malik doesn’t even deserve a spot in the test side. Being apparently active on the field does not necessarily make the recipe for a good captain. Inzi was quite but effective!!! But Younus ain’t the same. I believe, Misbah or Yousuf should do this job instead of an ever reluctant Younus.

  • john on December 7, 2007, 6:39 GMT

    I fully agree with Younis Khan.Firstly how can shoib malik leads Pakistan,he isn't good enough to make it the first 11.

    If you want Younis to lead ,you have to bestow to him all the power of a real captain,the selectors be damned. The greatest captain pakistan has ever produced has been Imran Khan,and The best team in the world at the moment is australia led by Ricky Ponting. Both of them are outstanding, strong leaders,and but of them were the best player of their respective teams

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on December 7, 2007, 6:37 GMT

    I have to say that only egoists have egoistic issues and egocentric people don't like to see or accept the existence of an ego in others because, for them their own inflated ego appears to be in danger. Hence they try to make meaningless points, sometimes they use statistics to validate their point, sometimes they use it like a Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini sort of point. To say that Younus Khan is very egoistic or he plays only for his own pride, vanity and for personal gains more than for the betterment of the country is like seeing the world through a blinder. I have said this before, he is not my favourite player, but that guy has 15 test hundreds to his name an average of 50 plus and people talk and praise about consistency in Malik's batting? Malik has only one test hundred to his name and an average of 35 runs, and he is more consistent? And, the irony is, I don't know anything about cricket! I have always emphasized the need for an ego in every single person because, without an ego we are just a deflated football. Ego also means one's self-esteem, it also means an inflated sense of self-worth. In philosophical terms, it is simply being "one's self." It is a set of psychic functions such as judgment, tolerance, reality-testing, control, planning, defense, aggression, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning etc.

    If a person's mentality can only be judged by a shot he plays then with every single shot he plays he can change the perception of the perceiver about his mentality. Malik being the captain of the team since WC twenty20 has played irresponsible shots not once but 4 times, he jumped out of the crease needlessly to get clean bowled or stumped. I guess, love is blind and his so-called youthfulness or his baby looks covers his follies and even his blunders. I remember reading Osman Samiuddin's article on Mohammad Yousuf, when he came at the crease to give a hat-trick to Irfan Pathan in the Karachi test in January 2006. Salman Butt was out for a duck giving a catch to Dravid in the slips and next to go was Younus Khan lbw but, Mohammad Yousuf was clean bowled by Pathan and Osman Samiuddin was quick to criticize Yousuf for playing such a reckless and irresponsible shot that according to him made everyone ashamed of Yousuf's batting. But, Yousuf made 97 in the second innings and during the same year he started piling up tons after tons and Mr Samiuddin's perception changed and he later acknowledged that Yousuf made him chew his words. Perception is dynamic and it depends on both, the psychological and physiological characteristics of the perceiver, in addition to the nature of the stimuli which is causing a response to the action. But, to be judgmental and being fixed with a notion is like obstinately pertinacious for no reason. I believe in forgiveness but, I am not forgetful.

  • AbdulGhafoor on December 7, 2007, 6:32 GMT

    On he contrary to what you're sugesting - Kamran -I believe that such is the best time to expose the mockeries of PCB and selectors. It is high time that they shoud be taken to the task by the public infuriated by a defeat that should come out of such display of Official autocracy where a Captain or even Coach is rendered a bystander when it matters the most. Younas for tha matter has shown the guts to protest at the right time. If he keeps quiet at such times and the match is saved or won, the idiots at the board also get vindicated by the results. They should also be accountable for the expenses they icurred by taken the whole herd of oficials to watch the matches and also expensed that go waste by flying players in late where they just add to one more spectator.

    If Younus really did what rumors are suggesting, he is my hero. Losing one test or a series even to India is not a big prie to epose the follies of such a soulless bunch of Thugs that we associate as PCB Officials.

  • bilal on December 7, 2007, 6:27 GMT

    Younis khan is a disgrace to pakistan team and his pride and ego is beyond limits. The man thinks of himself as Something and not worry about the country. As JFK once said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".Younis khan is what he is today because of pakistan cz if for instance if he was in Aus he wouldnt have been dumped like any other player a long time ago. And i think Younis khan is the most over-rated player pakistan has ever had contrary to this article. He always gets out playing weird and spooky strokes(eg first innings at calcutta sic). I think pakistan should at least drop him from the ODIs where he is miserable and 2020's. If he wants to stay in the tests he has to show that he wins pakistan matches(inzi) not some wane efforts in the 4th innings where the match is usually a dead rubber. I always thought afridi could be a better captain than malik and younis in the ODis while Misbah for tests. With Afridi he can be a sort of captain like imran khan was agressive and who really came hard on his players to get the results outta them not some sissyy players like malik who his brother said wouldnt say anything when elderly are talking , well too bad for him cz there are bunch of players older than him and he is just too scare to have a talk.

  • Yasir Naqvi on December 7, 2007, 6:26 GMT

    Great piece Mr. Abbassi, very well written. I have to say that if there is truth in these rumours than I am definitely annoyed with Younis. Not just because the situation calls for him to put his grievances aside and try to get Pakistan out of this crisis situation but also because his demands as a captain (and a stand-in one at that are quite unreasonable). I don't think that captains around the world get to dictate to the selectors the way Mr. Younis Khan wishes to. The captain and coach need to be involved with the selection but the final say has to be with the selectors; which in the case of Pakistan leads to a whole new plethora of problems but that is a debate for another day.

  • Usman Tahir on December 7, 2007, 6:24 GMT

    I surpise even myself by saying this, i agree ! Younis khan needs to get of his high horse and get on with the job, he shouldnt have accepted the post of vice captaincy if he couldnt accept the secondary nature of the role.

    If he expects the captain and coach to simply disappear just because he is captain for one of match that isnt possible! as for rameez raja's comments that misbah should be captain well i must say mr. rameez you`ve totally lost it. I was never in favor of shoaib as captain simply becaus eof inexperience, but now that he is the captain, we need to support him so that he learns. No one is a born leader, example of wasim's first stint, tendulkar's dismal performance, and Smiths early year is a big example!

  • RJ on December 7, 2007, 6:22 GMT

    GREAT ARTICLE BRO!!! TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! although am not a big fan of younis khan but at this time he should lead the team....generally speaking my choice of captain is MY BOY AFRIDI!!..we need someone of his aggressive nature..i thought malik was a good choice but am not impressed with his defensive mind set..

  • Haziq on December 7, 2007, 6:20 GMT

    hey everybody....why younus all the time say power power ... i m not the team member but i know all the critical situation before 2nd test by newspapers and through internet.. and I knew Malik was unfit ... so why he said that i did'nt know malik will play or not ...this is totally stupidity of Younus n called bachpana.This is totally disgusting attitude of younus Khan

  • Masum Dad Khan on December 7, 2007, 6:11 GMT

    Younis khan is a confused man and confusing others too. When he was offered the captaincy he turned it down but when offered the vice captaincy for this tour he accepted it. Now in the middle of the tour he is reluctant to lead the side when the captain is sidelined by injury.

    I think it is beyond anybody's guess what is in his mind !

  • Raman VikramAdith on December 7, 2007, 6:04 GMT

    I completely agree. In South Asia, with the amount of politics in just about every walk of life, Younis Khan should not be expecting ideal conditions in cricket. He should take what he has, and do his best for the country (whether or not the country shows him gratitude), rather than complain about not having enough power.

  • Wasim Alim on December 7, 2007, 6:01 GMT

    I have to disagree with you Kamran. I think this whole episode should not have been made public but I feel that in order to be successfull, the captain needs to have full control over selection and decision making on the field. Cricket is different from many other sports like baseball, football or basketball where coaches or managers make the decisions at crunch time. In cricket, the captains who enjoyed more success were stubborn (Imran Khan) and dictators of sort (Imran, Border, Loyed, etc.). We shouldn't just dismiss Younis's demand for more control over selection and decisions on the field as him being selfish and putting personal pride ahead of teams best interest. If all the decisions are made for him by others and he is only left to take the abuse/critisism after the loss, it will be unfair to be critical of Younis for standing up for himself. I say good job Younis for taking a principled stand but all this should not have been made public. After all, Pakistan team has been facing one controvercy after another for the last two years or so. There is no doubt in his abilities but before we make the comparisons with Miandad, he will have to improve in some parts of his game. Miandad was like a rock when team was faced by testing times (which happened to be the norm in those days). Younis showed that same poise on a few occassions, like in bangalore on the last tour of India. I am not so sure how much he can improve at age 30 but he will surely leave behind great stats when all is said and done. He is no Miandad however.

  • Ramamurthy Iyer on December 7, 2007, 5:59 GMT

    Dear Readers, 07.12.2007 This is further to my earlier comments. Please do not criticize Younis Khan. Let him lead the team, if he desires, else allow him to continue as a player. We need his cricket. Thank him for leading the side in Kolkatta and the wonderful innings under trying circumstances. Ramamurthy

  • Yogi on December 7, 2007, 5:59 GMT

    Kamran, You are one of the few columnist i ever admired.But in the case of Captain Khan, as u called,you are wrong.He saved Kolkatta test on his own,you may Mishabs and Akmals forst innigs is significant, may be thats rt.But in playing in fourth innig under tremendous pressure is some thng special. All u r comments about his refusal to capaintancy and his pride are true.I do agree country comes first but for me with out pride i can not do justice to country and that is true in case of Younise.He is out standing batsman and great fighter(i cant believe i am saying this being an Indian but thats true),a fighter always wants to fight in his own terms.And that fighter will take a applauds and blame on his stride when he fought on his ownt terms.But when some one else made decisons and ask a fighter to follow them, sorry, ture fighter never take it. If you want best then respect u r best weapon if not leave him alone and do u r work, result, we already knew,nothing happenned great after Imran Khan. Imran achieved every thing for Pakhistan because he able to choose his armay on his own and won lauds for his country. Younise is same as Imran.If u dont want him then just dont ask him to lead and blame him for his own pride. Younise, u r one of very few who stood for them selfs than prestiage. You go man,u didnt do any thing wrong and u justified with your bat than words!

  • SUHAIL AHMED ABRO on December 7, 2007, 5:57 GMT

    Hmmm... I am not agreed with khans letter because this is not fair with younis and other team members its a totally cricket politics..whats going on why you select shoib malik for pakistan team captain...He is basically actually a spin bowler but after captancy he doesn't bowl why????? its no doubt that malik is best allrounder and also keep a good role in pakistan winnings but he has not totally mature for captaincy after Inzamam i think younis play as a captain and shoib malik as VC because younis khan is the Statistically Younis has indeed been one of the best Pakistani batsmen and i hope he is a best for pakistan team if team support him otherwise one man nothing do well.. now iwant to few suggestion according to my opinion if pakistani team give chance to show the shoib Akhtar as a pakistani team Captain and Shahid khan afridi as a vice captain i think both is a back bone of pakistani team... plz think out it Mr. khan its better decision for pakistan team.. thanx

  • Saqib Sohail on December 7, 2007, 5:56 GMT

    I am very disappointed by this article. Here is a man who by his actions is trying to tell the PCB that they should mend their ways. He is not hungry for the Pakistan Captaincy, at least he wants to have it on his own terms.

    Lets assume he becomes the captain, he wins the test, everybody hails him, but nothing is learned. It should be PCB who should learn, and at least the press should start pointing out the outrageous actions of PCB. We as Pakistanis are so short sighted, all we care about are the short term goals. If PCB wants to draw the test then let Younis be the captain on his terms.

    Anyway I totally disagree with "I am agree(khansahab)". The points raised are very objective and only look at one side of the coin. Younis is in the league of Steve Waugh, not very technically proficient or naturally gifted yet its his mental abilities are far superior than both Inzi and Yousaf. He knows his stuff very well but he is not superman guaranteed to succeed all the time. Sometimes bad shot selection happens. Are you going start ridiculing Tendulkar who hasn't been able to reach his century in one days??

    And do you guys think that if Younis becomes the captain everything will fall into places and we will become the best team as soon as he accepts the captaincy. The pak team is playing cricket on daily basis with no planning for tomorrow, its mighty time that some concrete steps are taken.

  • Zulfiqar Ali Kazmi from Atlanta, GA USA on December 7, 2007, 5:55 GMT

    Younis Khan without a doubt is the best candidate for Pakistan's captaincy and I simply can't understand why he always refuses to lead the country. I would 100% agree with Kamran that national pride and honor should always be above and beyond personal pride. Pakistan cricket is in such a fragile state that it need a captain for long term who could lead from the front, and nobody can do it better than Younis. He's like Ricky Ponting, fearless and always the player the team can depend on. But if his ego is bigger than the love for his country, then he will lose the respect of his fans. Misbah is also a very good candidate, and so is Shoaib Akhtar; but I would still hope that Younis stays Pakistan's captain for a long time.

  • Tirmizi on December 7, 2007, 5:54 GMT

    I think it's time to make hard decisions. Shoaib Malik is a long way away from becoming a good Test captain.I think Experience is the single most important factor in it. He should remain the ODI captain although. Younis has refused captaincy twice.He wants more powers and authority which wont come with this PCB administration.Therefore,making him vice or full captain doesnt serve any purpose. I think Yousuf should be made captain but not only for 1 game but for future as well.He had shown his interest in the job in the past,has got a cool head and is reliable.How would he perform remains to be seen but its worth giving a shot. Misbah is looking good but he needs more time. Making him captain would be the same mistake as that of making salman butt vc. One thing I am sure pak team like the whole nation is in a deep pit.

  • R Ramamurthy Iyer on December 7, 2007, 5:52 GMT

    With every match I have an increasing admiration for Younis Khan. With meagre resources, and a bland pitch, Younis did manage to draw with an innings of marvel. I have always rated him as a great player, a great thinker and a very shrewd strategist on the field for the few times he led. My entire sympathies with Younis Bhai, it is for the sheer love of the game is playing, else given the high level of low grade politics in Pakistan Cricket, he would have left the game once and for all. And that would have been a great loss to the Cricketing world. No surprise, he was the choice leader for the late Bob. And I am sure, he can lead Pakistan cricket to great heights, if he is understood by the PCB. I am a great fan of Younis after Inzy Bhai. Ramamurthy

  • Rehan Qureshi on December 7, 2007, 5:52 GMT

    bravo "I am agree(khansahab)", bravo! I like Younus Khan since the start of his career and I think I am one of those fans who will like him irrespective of what he does. Still he has too much pride meaning thinking more about himself than the team. I dont know what was he trying to prove by that reverse sweep in Kolkata (the one that brought his 100), he had plenty of time left in the game to bring up is 100 but by playing that shot he risked his wicket, the match and the series ... so you see he is a good batsman but still not reliable.

  • sankar on December 7, 2007, 5:52 GMT

    I think Younis is right in doing whatever he is doing right now. Think from Younis' position Mr. Abbasi. Somebody selects a team and the captain, and god knows might even set the field position from outside. And what they need is a namesake captain. And Younis has the right to say, why me?. you can even do this with Tanvir. He is not a dummy and doesn't want to be one. Is there anything wrong in it. Pakistan team sure is in a crisis, but then, when was it not? The way younis is enjoying his game in the recent times, it is not good for pakistan team and cricket in general to make him do something that he is not interested in. PCB is giving him only the captaincy and not the responsibility associated with it and he sure has the right to reject it and we sure dont have the right to question it.

  • farrukh on December 7, 2007, 5:45 GMT

    Make Misbah the next captain.Good idea, but the only problem is Malik and Misbah would not get along well, as is the usual case in Pakistani team. With Misbah already performing well and Malik just a utility player,there will be a split.

  • shaikh on December 7, 2007, 5:41 GMT

    utterly disgraceful ... if this is true he needs to be dropped from the team immediately ... a distraction and disgrace to the entire team ... every time he as acted stupidly ... if he plays well and people idolize him then why is he surprised when fans hate him when he plays stupid shots which result in pakistans downfall against ireland ... if he wants to control the team as an in command captain then he should have taken captaincy when handed to him .... if he doesnt want to be a stand-in he should have refused vice-captaincy ... he will never be respected by anyone after this and needs to be dropped now ... it will hurt the batting but the unified team will be better

  • nabeel on December 7, 2007, 5:38 GMT

    Its easy to blame and pick on players. I think its the board who is being unreasonable by inerfering too much.

  • Atif on December 7, 2007, 5:38 GMT

    No body knows who came second to Carl Lewis in 1996 Olympics. If people want to be second best they would always remain second best. Tennis number 1 is Roger Federer but who knows who is number 2 in Tennis for men.

    The issue is the psychology around us. We are never persistant thats why we are called unpredictable. We would never strive for anything until we know that we have a full backing of people around you. We are not culturally risk takers.

    If Younis would like to be on the top, I don't think anybody would let him take this position but I will not blame Younis for it. I think the responsbility lies with Pakistan Cricket Board. They probably had never let Younis felt of the captaincy. You should be grooming your future captains not dumping them as a captain for here and there.

    We had never set up the goal or where we would like to be. Look at Australia, when the captaincy question was raised after Steve Waugh was retired, they chosen Ricky Ponting and leaving Adam Gilchrist and Shane Warne not having a sniff of this prime position. Like wise recently, they hve chosen Michael Clark over Gilchrist in their next 20/20 against NewZealand.

    It is a fact this this situation is going to get worst. I think PCB should hire a psychologist with Geoff Lawson to start preparing for the future captain.

    Why we can't let the democracy survive in our country when our neighbour with 52 provices could do it over a lenght of time. This is all psychology and moral. We just don't want to be number 1. Why??

  • Rafay on December 7, 2007, 5:37 GMT

    Well no matter what anyone says or how many times Younis denies captiancy. I think pakistan team needs an agressive captian and Shoaib Akhtar should be the one to consider for this postion for a change. Everyone else is just scuking up to each other and Shoaib malik is just too soft to be leading the team. Keeping in mind Shoaib refused indian league offer because he wanted to serve his own country and never mind what media and anyone says about him. Everyone does things in their personal life and most of them are straight lucky to get away with it.

  • Haroon on December 7, 2007, 5:35 GMT

    Ashaq said; "I think it would be even better for the entertainment value if Shoaib Akhtar was made Test captain and Afridi one-day captain.

    With Javed Miandad as batting coach, Sarfaraz Nawaz as bowling coach.The fiery Abdul Qadir as spin coach and the uncompromising Rashid Latif as fielding coach." Oh man gr8 suggestion that would be really gr8 fun LOLZ.

    but jokes apart, i think younis can be a very good captain. he has da confidence in his abilities and he wants to dictate the terms. let him give the power and no once can deny he'll always be accountable in pcb as well as general court. he wants to prove a point, he is a real team man.

    no one deny da fact, younis is one of the least naturally talented batsman as compared to greats of the world, be it inzi, ponting, tendulkar, lara, miandad, or yousuf, but it's his sheer hardwork and detremination which has got in the leage of extra-ordinary gentlemen. and i am sure he will definitely write the new rules and explore the new horizons of capataincy.

    so give him the power and keep ur fingers crossed. he will be definitely better than the rubber stamp(Malik)

  • Ibraheem Khan on December 7, 2007, 5:31 GMT

    The situation definitely demands that he should lead the side but he is not the alone culprit of this situation. Why is that pakistan cricket board officials are always the main problem but they escape from any sort of punishment. When Waqar Younis episode had taken place, it was purely pcb's fault. Salim Altaf could not present any logic against Waqar Younis questions on private channel show.

    Now if team captain has asked for a player, that should have been fullfilled. Full Stop

    I also feel for Abdur Rauf. I remember Waqar Younis asked management in pakistan for him as replacement when Wasim/Shoaib got injured against South Africa in 2002/2003 tour. However,the pcb then blocked captain wishes & sent Fazl-e-Akbar.

  • Jawad Zakariya on December 7, 2007, 5:30 GMT

    As usual Kamran Abbasi you are clearly and utterly wrong once again on a major cricketing issue hitting the headlines in Pakistan. Younis Khan has done absolutely the right thing in refusing the puppet captaincy handed to him. He should as Captain either get the team he is most comfortable playing with or there is no use in making him Captain. It is sensationalists like you who will be after his hide if the Pakistan team ends up losing the Banglore Test. Since it is his neck on the line and not Naseem Ashraf or the selection committee's, he should have the full authority to chose whomever he wants to play and if the board is unreasonable enough not to understand this well they can very well find another Captain, thank you very much.

  • John on December 7, 2007, 5:18 GMT

    No player is greater than cricket. It so sad he keeps refusing to be captain irrespective of being vice-captain. Whatever reasons he is giving are funny. PCB should take action against him for doing this drama.

  • Aamir Masood on December 7, 2007, 5:18 GMT

    Younis does need to stop thinking he's bigger than the team. If Pakistan requires him to lead, he should do it. Drawing this series is much more important than hurt pride on Younis's part.

  • Mohammad Manzoor on December 7, 2007, 5:13 GMT

    Younis Khan has repeatedly said that he doesnt want to be a dummy captain . He knows, we know and even PCB know that at this moment Younis Khan is the best choice to lead the team, But they made shoiab Malik the captain instead.WHY??? Just because Malik is a dummy captain and thats what PCB want . A DUMMY Captain...Someone who would always say JEE HUZOOR to them. What does younis Khan want.?????? Captaincy with Authority , Like Imran Khan...like Inzi..Fair enough..give him what he wants and then see if he gives the results.. IF he does ..good for pak cricket..if he doesnt, KICK HIM OUT. You let him know just before the game that he is going to be the captain..and this is the team (NON PLAYING CAPTAIN PICKED) he is going to lead and he doesn't get to say anything about the team , You give him half fit team and expect him to do well ???? i doubt it. Younis should be made the captain , i would say enforce the captaincy on him. tell him be the captain and dont be at all.

  • Partha Rajagopal on December 7, 2007, 5:13 GMT

    Younis would be the best captain for the current Pakistan team. He has all the qualities of a leader and he leads by example. It is unfortunate that he feels so demoralized by various factors. Someone like Imran Khan should talk to him and give him the needed pat. If there is anyone who can bring back the Pakistan cricket to its glory level today, it is undoubtedly Younis Khan. If he was playing for India, he would be a reliable hero by now.

  • mooneeb ali on December 7, 2007, 5:12 GMT

    well kamran wat u ve written is v rite but wat i feel is that board official are still playing there cheeky terms and they try to promote lobby system.kindly let the players and the captain wether it z a standing or activ captain to decide wat type of players they want so that they can easily tumle with them.

  • Umer Ayub on December 7, 2007, 5:12 GMT

    Yes Abbasi you are right in many ways, but i will disagree you only in a way that if the captain is held responsible for the team's performance in the ground then he should also be given the right to choose the team of his choice. Furthermore this is not the first time Younis has done the job for his country, who can forget his effort against south africa in one of the test match where he single handedly won the match for the pakistan. I think if some one is so capable of performing the things for his country then he should be given the due respect that he deserves. In the end I think PCB should be considered more responsible for such kinds of things rather than anyone else.

  • Tahir Saeed on December 7, 2007, 5:08 GMT

    Mr. Khan happens to be the most unreliable batsman Pakistan ever had time and again he let down the team for his stupid pride.He is uncultured have no sense of national pride and he is selfish he plays only for himself if you ask me he should be fired from the team and let some promising younger player take his place .

  • Krishnan on December 7, 2007, 5:04 GMT

    This has become a joke and I think we only have PCB to blame for it. To begin with, I was shocked that the Pakistani board even thought of making him the vice-captain for the Indian tour. I guess they haven't learnt their lesson after they way Younis rejected captaincy after the 2007 World Cup. Even if he the best captain in the world, no board should tolerate this kind of behavior. And this has left Pakistan with most likely having three different captains in three tests of the same series. This must be ridiculous even by Pakistani Cricket team standards.

  • Vijay Parmeshwaran on December 7, 2007, 5:00 GMT

    Nice post Kamran. Well Younis is a capable bat and has shown that he has the mettle to lead the side. The main thing to remember is that no captain in the worls gets a side of his bidding every time. Controversies or rather disagreements are always going to be there but these issues are much better left behind in the boardroom than the captain figure ranting about it in newspaper articles and press conferences.

    Secondly, PCB appointed Younis vice captain and removed Yousuf from the same post ealier. PCB and the buffoons who are in charge look to Yousuf as a reserve option whenever Younis, Inzamam or Malik (in this case) is not available to lead the side. And no man with some pride will willingly be the third and final reserve option every time.

    One logical option that PCB should consider is to appoint Misbah, if they believe he is going to perform a high level for the next two or three years, as the vice captain. Maybe two or three years down the line they will find a youngster, with good personnel skills and great temperament, that they can slowly bring along to replace Misbah.

  • Sami Qahar on December 7, 2007, 4:47 GMT

    I just with Younus reads the last few lines of the article today. Can somebody be kind enough to farward that to him so that he goes for a toss tomorrow morning?

  • Jibran on December 7, 2007, 4:41 GMT

    I hope the news is nothing but Indian media fluff. But Younis's pride has proven him to be an idiot before so it might actually be true. Malik wasn't ready to be captain, it was Younis's destiny to be captain but he turned it down, now what it is just one test, do it for your country.

  • Kaiser Mukhtar from Hongkong on December 7, 2007, 4:40 GMT

    As he was made the V Captain for the 3rd time it meant he should be leading the side in the absence of captain, he should have understood this Or he'll be future captain this is so plain on papers or by word of mouth, I for one fail to understand why did he took up the job in the 1st place. This looked a good choice if he understood he will be leading the team one day but its the same old tentative situation Pak team finds itself in. The ideal choice should have been Yousuf the Captain not Malik i guess.

  • Faisal on December 7, 2007, 4:37 GMT

    Younis Khan needs to learn that we don't live in a perfect world.There is no doubt that he is a best batsman in Pakistan's side but this is an emergency rescue for Pakistan not a series where he is appointed officially as a captain. His temperament is more hampering Pakistan's rescue mission in India then to help Pakistan level the series.I think that the team management should go with M.Yousuf or Misbah as a stand by captain as compare to the person whose Pride is bigger than saving the reputation of his country specially in India.Younis doesn't believe in go with the flow theory of Management, he is asking for a player who is not even in India right now(Abdul-Rauf), a good captain is the one who lead his bad side and turn them into a victorious side like Imran Khan has done in 1992 WC.

    Thanks

  • Saahil Malhotra on December 7, 2007, 4:31 GMT

    Im a indian. i always liked the pakistani team in the 90s. I always noticed one thing bout the pakistani teams in the past, they have a lot of egos, it shows in the way they play the game. Mind you, indians are egoist as well, but lesser in extend. As far as the pakistani captaincy goes, i really belive mohd. yousuf should get the job, shoaib malik is solid but hes shown weakness in crunch situations, you really need a expierenced campaigner. Yousuf is a handy middle order player that will get you out of any situation, one thing i really love about pakistani batsmen is that they love playing their shots, and they are very versatile batsmen, yes they make mistakes at times with their shot selection but you cant really blame them for a few bad shots. I belive Malik should be nurtured he has a sharp mind. Malik should be the vice captain in both forms of the game and yousuf as the captain. I think its the fear that is bothering younis, but the ego or pride, hes scared of all the extra expectations a captaincy brings, the extra burdens, the cricket crazy pakistani fans, he feels his batting will dip.

  • Mohamoud A. on December 7, 2007, 4:28 GMT

    i appreciate your thoughts KAMRAN but the reality is far from yours. The question i would like to ask you is that what is the meaning of captain if he is not involved the decisionmaking process let alone to choose the 11 players on the field? i reckon YOUNIS is right and what he said is totally justified. He does not like to be a DUMMY Captain and he'll never be. Hats off Younis and we appreciate your good decision. Kamran Abbasi seems to have been pleased by some other issues in PCB.

  • uzair on December 7, 2007, 4:26 GMT

    I personally believe that Younis Khan is overrated as a batsman, as well as leader. Somehow, it is taken as conventional wisdom that Younis is the miraculous answer to Pakistan's captaincy problems... he has certainly done very little to deserve this confidence. A true leader does not turn away from responsibility whenever it is thrust upon him... Lets take the opposition for example; by all accounts Anil Kumble should have been made captain much earlier. It would be understandable if he had held a grudge after being overlooked for so long, and even now being a second choice (after Tendulkar). However, being the selfless champ that he is, Kumble has just taken the captaincy in his stride, and is doing well so far. Hopefully, our Younis will have enough sense not to create another crisis ( as in Pakistan cricket needs it) and to shut up and play.

  • waqar on December 7, 2007, 4:24 GMT

    Mr. Khan is man of character. He doesn’t want to be a dummy captain. In my view what he is doing he is doing right so once board is not realizing how to handle senior player issues. Malik is a good player but in test arena his position in test 11 is still a question mark. Board is happy with the week captain but team needs a leader who can take decision on its own. It’s not a football or any other game where coaches shouting for the plan but this a game of character where u can lead your team with a prime character like in the past other khan did. Board must realize this situation and support yunus. Mr. Khan keeps it up its khan pride.

  • Romaze Akram on December 7, 2007, 4:23 GMT

    You are 100% correct in everything you say Mr. Abassi. In my opinion, neither Yousef or Younis should be captain. I think it should be Misbah-Ul-Haq, he is very well educated, double math major with a physics minor. Education i think is the key to success, he will be a good captain, and he will be able to think strategically, and more logically then most other uneducated captains. Kudos on the article though, very well written!

  • Hassan on December 7, 2007, 4:14 GMT

    Mr Kamran Abbasi, why do not you write about pathetic nature of PCB. I once criticized PCB harshly on Faisal Iqbal, and my comment appeared with editions. I think Younis Khan has prove again and again that he is captain and a leader. Even when he was stand in for Inzi, he took better and bolder decisions than Inzi. PCB does not like aggressive independent captains!

  • ahamed sharif on December 7, 2007, 4:13 GMT

    So Abbasi will understand the importance of prayers in keeping the team together (Earlier coach's commented the same). But poor Inzimam was targeted for overdose of religion.

  • HH on December 7, 2007, 4:02 GMT

    With the cricket team in shambles on the verge of a make or break test, where is the PCB chief? In Capitol Hill, Washington DC.Is there any accountability? A full time paid Chairman of the PCB indulging in politics at the cost of his primary work? Or may be he has finally realized the best way he can serve cricket is by staying away from it. I wouldn't disagree with that, except that he should make this dissociation official.

  • Ejaz Ahmed on December 7, 2007, 2:54 GMT

    Well I partly agree with you that it is a great honour to lead ones country out of cricket field and thats where Younis is the best. But at the same time you have to provide him with the best lot of players, a degree of independence to make his decision so he can me held liable for them.

    You have to look it from his viewpoint, Younis wants the control that he needs to get the best out of the team and if it not provided to him then their is not other way or in other words "Its my way or highway" so it seems as long as Younis is not allowed to have the freedom that is requries he is not going to take up the job and no offence but shoaib mailk is not the rite guy to lead pakistan at this stage he should have been allowed to grow under Younis Khan but at this stage we can't see him staying in the team for long the way he is play.

    As team pakistan needs stable and respected leader who position in the team is not questionable. He is sort of person paksitan team needs to get 110% out of the boys and lead by example. He is proved more the once he can do that in the future as well.

  • I am agree(khansahab) on December 7, 2007, 0:34 GMT

    Younis Khan has been an enigmatic character in Pakistan cricket, much like how Euceph Ahmed has been an enigma on Pakspin. Statistics in my opinion are like straws which dying men clutch to make or reinforce a point. I am not a huge fan of stats since I feel they do not reveal the entire picture. Statistically Younis has indeed been one of the best Pakistani batsmen. However I suppose we will find it hard to rely on stats to unearth how reckless or irresponsible Younis’s batting has been for much of his career. I think it was Navjot Singh Sidhu who once said that, “"Statistics are like bikinis… what they reveal is suggestive, what they hide is essential!" I once mentioned that Younis can be a greater batsman than Miandad if he applies himself more at the crease and I am certain some individuals must have laughed at this assertion. Performance against the two best bowling teams of the era is in my opinion the most significant criterion for judging a batsman’s class. Younis (in Tests) averages 32 against Australia and 44 against South Africa, which is much better than Inzamam or Yousuf’s performance against these two teams (Inzamam averaging 31 and 32, Yousuf only averaging 30 against both sides!) That is the reason why I am so frustrated with Younis- he has the talent to become the greatest batsman in the history of Pakistan but he has this recurring propensity to throw his wicket away in crucial situations playing horrible and senseless shots. He did that only recently in the first innings in Kolkata. I also think that Younis cares more about his pride than the betterment of the team or the country. I don’t see how Mr Abbasi can call him “increasingly reliable” when he has already refused captaincy in crisis twice and may well do it for the third time now, as well. If what I am saying here is wrong, can someone tell me why Younis usually only ends up playing a spectacular knock when he receives plentiful criticism (and in the past when his inclusion in the team is on the line?). Why does he have such a poor record of playing marathon innings under pressure (I classify this Kolkata century as a rare exception)? We all saw how he brought up his century in Kolkata- by playing a very risky reverse sweep. That shot tells you about his mentality- he is unpredictable, impulsive and will take strange risks in those situations that warrant extreme care. Despite having an average of nearly 50 why is Younis not compared with Inzamam (who averages just under 50) and why has his batting been so inconsistent? The Pakistan cricket team will never become a top team unless its players place the wishes of the fans and the betterment of the team above their egos and selfish interests

  • Ashaq on December 6, 2007, 23:58 GMT

    Awesome news, lets face it Pakistan team are never gonna be a professional outfit, so at least we got a good bit of controversy to keep interest alive.

    So respect to Younis for that. I think it would be even better for the entertainment value if Shoaib Akhtar was made Test captain and Afridi one-day captain.

    With Javed Miandad as batting coach, Sarfaraz Nawaz as bowling coach.The fiery Abdul Qadir as spin coach and the uncompromising Rashid Latif as fielding coach.

    A Pakistan side without controversies is quite bland, dull. So thanks to Younis for getting the ball rolling.

  • Tay'yab-Ali Malik on December 6, 2007, 23:55 GMT

    I think its time for PCB to let captain khan be. Let him just concentrate on his batting and fielding. They should forget making him the vice-captain, his heart and mind are simply not in it. It just causes embarrassment everytime him and captaincy are spoken in the same breath. I was surprised he was actually made Malik's deputy despite turning the post down on more than one occasion.

    In the short term Yousuf should step in since he has experienece and the last time he led Pakistan against Australia, he scored a magnificant hundred. However, media reports have suggested he too is reluctant in which case Misbah would seem the appropriate choice for Saturday and to replace Younis Khan as vice-captain in the long term. Misbah is mentally very strong and in the words of Shastri he has "nerves of steel". This guy looks as if he has been playing test cricket for as long as Inzamam and Tendulkar. He has exceeded all expectation and looks like the real deal. He is phyically fitter than anyone in the team. Finally, he is a MBA graduate and has good English speaking skills - at least we will be able to understand him at the post-match presentation.

  • Awas on December 6, 2007, 23:43 GMT

    What you have written is absolutely wonderful Kamran Abbasi. One of the best pieces ever I would say and on this occasion I have to say I agree every word of it.

    I was quite shocked as well to read about it earlier on Cricinfo but was hoping it’s just a rumour. Younis no doubt has a wonderful match temperament but his stubbornness if he persists with it this time is going to damage him in a big way. It seems it’s difficult for him to find a balance between stubbornness and churlishness.

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  • Awas on December 6, 2007, 23:43 GMT

    What you have written is absolutely wonderful Kamran Abbasi. One of the best pieces ever I would say and on this occasion I have to say I agree every word of it.

    I was quite shocked as well to read about it earlier on Cricinfo but was hoping it’s just a rumour. Younis no doubt has a wonderful match temperament but his stubbornness if he persists with it this time is going to damage him in a big way. It seems it’s difficult for him to find a balance between stubbornness and churlishness.

  • Tay'yab-Ali Malik on December 6, 2007, 23:55 GMT

    I think its time for PCB to let captain khan be. Let him just concentrate on his batting and fielding. They should forget making him the vice-captain, his heart and mind are simply not in it. It just causes embarrassment everytime him and captaincy are spoken in the same breath. I was surprised he was actually made Malik's deputy despite turning the post down on more than one occasion.

    In the short term Yousuf should step in since he has experienece and the last time he led Pakistan against Australia, he scored a magnificant hundred. However, media reports have suggested he too is reluctant in which case Misbah would seem the appropriate choice for Saturday and to replace Younis Khan as vice-captain in the long term. Misbah is mentally very strong and in the words of Shastri he has "nerves of steel". This guy looks as if he has been playing test cricket for as long as Inzamam and Tendulkar. He has exceeded all expectation and looks like the real deal. He is phyically fitter than anyone in the team. Finally, he is a MBA graduate and has good English speaking skills - at least we will be able to understand him at the post-match presentation.

  • Ashaq on December 6, 2007, 23:58 GMT

    Awesome news, lets face it Pakistan team are never gonna be a professional outfit, so at least we got a good bit of controversy to keep interest alive.

    So respect to Younis for that. I think it would be even better for the entertainment value if Shoaib Akhtar was made Test captain and Afridi one-day captain.

    With Javed Miandad as batting coach, Sarfaraz Nawaz as bowling coach.The fiery Abdul Qadir as spin coach and the uncompromising Rashid Latif as fielding coach.

    A Pakistan side without controversies is quite bland, dull. So thanks to Younis for getting the ball rolling.

  • I am agree(khansahab) on December 7, 2007, 0:34 GMT

    Younis Khan has been an enigmatic character in Pakistan cricket, much like how Euceph Ahmed has been an enigma on Pakspin. Statistics in my opinion are like straws which dying men clutch to make or reinforce a point. I am not a huge fan of stats since I feel they do not reveal the entire picture. Statistically Younis has indeed been one of the best Pakistani batsmen. However I suppose we will find it hard to rely on stats to unearth how reckless or irresponsible Younis’s batting has been for much of his career. I think it was Navjot Singh Sidhu who once said that, “"Statistics are like bikinis… what they reveal is suggestive, what they hide is essential!" I once mentioned that Younis can be a greater batsman than Miandad if he applies himself more at the crease and I am certain some individuals must have laughed at this assertion. Performance against the two best bowling teams of the era is in my opinion the most significant criterion for judging a batsman’s class. Younis (in Tests) averages 32 against Australia and 44 against South Africa, which is much better than Inzamam or Yousuf’s performance against these two teams (Inzamam averaging 31 and 32, Yousuf only averaging 30 against both sides!) That is the reason why I am so frustrated with Younis- he has the talent to become the greatest batsman in the history of Pakistan but he has this recurring propensity to throw his wicket away in crucial situations playing horrible and senseless shots. He did that only recently in the first innings in Kolkata. I also think that Younis cares more about his pride than the betterment of the team or the country. I don’t see how Mr Abbasi can call him “increasingly reliable” when he has already refused captaincy in crisis twice and may well do it for the third time now, as well. If what I am saying here is wrong, can someone tell me why Younis usually only ends up playing a spectacular knock when he receives plentiful criticism (and in the past when his inclusion in the team is on the line?). Why does he have such a poor record of playing marathon innings under pressure (I classify this Kolkata century as a rare exception)? We all saw how he brought up his century in Kolkata- by playing a very risky reverse sweep. That shot tells you about his mentality- he is unpredictable, impulsive and will take strange risks in those situations that warrant extreme care. Despite having an average of nearly 50 why is Younis not compared with Inzamam (who averages just under 50) and why has his batting been so inconsistent? The Pakistan cricket team will never become a top team unless its players place the wishes of the fans and the betterment of the team above their egos and selfish interests

  • Ejaz Ahmed on December 7, 2007, 2:54 GMT

    Well I partly agree with you that it is a great honour to lead ones country out of cricket field and thats where Younis is the best. But at the same time you have to provide him with the best lot of players, a degree of independence to make his decision so he can me held liable for them.

    You have to look it from his viewpoint, Younis wants the control that he needs to get the best out of the team and if it not provided to him then their is not other way or in other words "Its my way or highway" so it seems as long as Younis is not allowed to have the freedom that is requries he is not going to take up the job and no offence but shoaib mailk is not the rite guy to lead pakistan at this stage he should have been allowed to grow under Younis Khan but at this stage we can't see him staying in the team for long the way he is play.

    As team pakistan needs stable and respected leader who position in the team is not questionable. He is sort of person paksitan team needs to get 110% out of the boys and lead by example. He is proved more the once he can do that in the future as well.

  • HH on December 7, 2007, 4:02 GMT

    With the cricket team in shambles on the verge of a make or break test, where is the PCB chief? In Capitol Hill, Washington DC.Is there any accountability? A full time paid Chairman of the PCB indulging in politics at the cost of his primary work? Or may be he has finally realized the best way he can serve cricket is by staying away from it. I wouldn't disagree with that, except that he should make this dissociation official.

  • ahamed sharif on December 7, 2007, 4:13 GMT

    So Abbasi will understand the importance of prayers in keeping the team together (Earlier coach's commented the same). But poor Inzimam was targeted for overdose of religion.

  • Hassan on December 7, 2007, 4:14 GMT

    Mr Kamran Abbasi, why do not you write about pathetic nature of PCB. I once criticized PCB harshly on Faisal Iqbal, and my comment appeared with editions. I think Younis Khan has prove again and again that he is captain and a leader. Even when he was stand in for Inzi, he took better and bolder decisions than Inzi. PCB does not like aggressive independent captains!

  • Romaze Akram on December 7, 2007, 4:23 GMT

    You are 100% correct in everything you say Mr. Abassi. In my opinion, neither Yousef or Younis should be captain. I think it should be Misbah-Ul-Haq, he is very well educated, double math major with a physics minor. Education i think is the key to success, he will be a good captain, and he will be able to think strategically, and more logically then most other uneducated captains. Kudos on the article though, very well written!

  • waqar on December 7, 2007, 4:24 GMT

    Mr. Khan is man of character. He doesn’t want to be a dummy captain. In my view what he is doing he is doing right so once board is not realizing how to handle senior player issues. Malik is a good player but in test arena his position in test 11 is still a question mark. Board is happy with the week captain but team needs a leader who can take decision on its own. It’s not a football or any other game where coaches shouting for the plan but this a game of character where u can lead your team with a prime character like in the past other khan did. Board must realize this situation and support yunus. Mr. Khan keeps it up its khan pride.