Politics December 23, 2008

Lorgat's faux pas is a demonstration of weakness

The world of international cricket is already too small to bear the loss of emerging nations like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, and established ones like Pakistan
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India's unfortunate decision to cancel their tour of Pakistan is a serious blow to cricket in South Asia. The decision is a political one, and one I believe to be incorrect. Perpetrators of atrocities will be encouraged by the political divisions they create. Disharmony and conflict sustain them.

Cricketers and cricket fans have often shown that the regional instinct for friendship is greater than the desire to destroy each other. The only glimmer of hope is that the Indian government sees the wisdom in friendship but has judged the mood of its people will not tolerate a sporting encounter with Pakistan just yet.

As appalling as India's decision is to Pakistan fans, Sri Lanka's quick acceptance is a boost. The state of Pakistan cricket is such that it must seek willing opposition at home, abroad, and on neutral venues. International cricket must become the rule again and not the exception.

All of which makes Haroon Lorgat's reference to a security inspection on behalf of ICC officials even more surprising. ICC's role, with reference to Pakistan, has to be to allow willing nations to tour. The world of international cricket is already too small to bear the loss of emerging nations like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, and established ones like Pakistan.

The security survey for officials would also have been an unprecedented move by ICC, adding strength to the argument that the international cricket community is displaying double standards in its treatment of Pakistan. Little wonder, then, that the ICC media machine rapidly issued clarifications of Lorgat's comment, which reads perfectly clearly in its original form.

Pakistan cricket is in a mess but so is ICC, because a shrinking cricket world means that it is hostage to the whims of one or two powerful members. The myopic view is to bend to that power, which is a dangerous mistake. But the ICC has yet to demonstrate that it has a viable long-term strategy to allow international cricket to flourish or the courage to stand up to its most dominant members.

ICC's main hope as an organisation is to grow its membership. Instead, it is an organisation stricken by its failure to ensure that its least powerful or least desirable constituents are not marginalised.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • SJD on March 3, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    Mr Abbasi, I assume that in light of today's terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team that you will no longer have the temerity to assert that the repeated refusal of cricket teams to tour your country is motivated by political, racial or economic reasons, rather than genuine concerns over player safety. I also trust that you will unconditionally withdraw the baseless accusations of ulterior motives and cowardice which you have previously levelled at, inter alia, the Australian cricket team. The risk of death or injury to touring cricketers, in your country and in your country alone, has now been shown to be a very real risk. It is up to your country to do something about it and then prove to the rest of the world's satisfaction that the risk has been eliminated or, at the very least, greatly reduced. At the end of the day, the welfare of players and the families relying on them is paramount.

  • Satish on January 20, 2009, 21:14 GMT

    Hey all who ever are crying on india for pulling off the tour and calling it injustice should be out of your mind. Your guys come and blast bombs at heart of our country and kill innocent civilians and expert us to come and entertain you in your country ? I feel really discusting to see people who support themselfs even after seing so barbaric incidents. I feel countrys people and its self respect is more important than cricket and India has pulled the tour only to show its love for its people. If you really want Indian players on your soil then, proove your sincerity by stopping the terrorist acts. You can't deny that those peoples acts are not yours as they are living in your country. People are dying and you need entertainment.

  • mohsin on January 20, 2009, 15:24 GMT

    well kiyuni i dont agree with you.kashmir is a problem.by holding fake election i.e by arresting pro pakistani leaders and imposing cerfew.but i am sure that cancellation of tour by india have not affected pakistan because srilanka have toured pakistan and has silinced the critics.

  • Kiyuni sharma on January 20, 2009, 8:24 GMT

    Terrence , Ya sure take out ban on ICL players and ensure Pakistan does not play even the little cricket it is getting now . Besides Election were just held in Kashmir and all is fine there...its in ur mind and media that there is tendency to create issues and problems. Perhaps non-state actors mentality is creeping in.

  • Terrence on January 19, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    If this forum is to become a place for venting political positions let me then mention India's arrogance in ignoring the question of self-determination to the Kashmiri people for such a long time. Even from so far away we can see that it is the main cause of conflict between India and Pakistan. India's intransigence on this matter has now extended into the game of cricket. Pakistan should rethink its position of supporting India blindly in each and every matter in the ICC. For a start Pakistan should lift the ban on players playing in the ICL.

  • Bilal Choudry on January 14, 2009, 4:58 GMT

    I am not sure if this is the forum for political discussion. I see this as a good thing for Pakistan cricket as they should learn to survive without BCCI. 170 Million people fans are more than enough. Also with some encouraging changes in the PCB and induction of former players into the setup should give a chance to Pakistan cricket to start thinking on its own.

  • Fahad Khan on December 29, 2008, 14:19 GMT

    I think the best thing for Pakistan to do is to create a PPL and strengthen domestic cricket. Rahul above has stated that Pakistan does not have money for this because of the IMF loan. I don't think anyone wants the government to create the PPL but private investors to be involved. There are many Pakistanis (in Pakistan and in the US/UK) who have the money and are willing to invest in this venture. Pakistan doesn't need to play India, England or Australia. If they don't want to play, forget it. There are enough Pakistan cricket fans within Pakistan, the middle east and the West who would watch it, and I know of many people, myself included who would love to see a proper (privately owned) Karachi team in this tournament.

  • Maud on December 29, 2008, 12:48 GMT

    Lorgat's faux pas is a demonstration of weakness - This is a statement in denial mode. Its just a statement of a person who is not in denial mode. He just is worried for safety of ICC officials and is going by a neutel security consultants judgement who has experience in judging security scenarios. People in denial mode would like to misconstruct it as conspiracy theory , wrong assesment but most of worlds consulates have same assesment and not all can be corrupt. On topic of PPL , unless it gets approval of ICC, its gonna be just another rebel ICL type of tournament. Besides any sane person would know that PPL is not going to send shivers doen spine of ICC . Besides people advocating PPL , can preach anythnig but no corproate is gonna sponsor matches where quality of games is as good as an ICC associate tournament considering Zim/Bang will be other 2 contestants.ICC is not gonna loose sleep over loss of corprate sponsorship.If PCB gets govt fiunding,,then who funds LeT?????

  • vijay on December 29, 2008, 6:29 GMT

    Dear Kamran, Consider this scenario - You are doing very well and you are enjoying your life and trying to make it better and better everyday. You are progressing well. But you have a very unreasonable neighbour who is always on your throat because he has nothing else to do. He tries to pull you down every which way possible, of course by negative methods. Now, will you send your darling kids to play with this neigbour's kids, even if the innocent kids of your neighbours don't necessarily know what their parent is upto. No, right? That's exactly what the Indian government and BCCI is doing. If they send the Indian team there, it will be the greatest hypocritical act!!!

    So instead of crying foul over what BCCI has done, please try to clean up your house and try acting as a good neighbour. And you blame BCCI's economic power for this clout. How did the BCCI become cash-rich? Because the country is doing well. The business houses are investing a lot of money because they see a bright fu

  • Mudassar Rana on December 29, 2008, 4:32 GMT

    Unfortunately many indians have forgotten that pakistan has been a victim of terrorism as well, but we never say its indian inspired - and there is plenty to suggest of nefarious activities in baluchistan, swat and waziristan. 18 consulates in afghanistan where there are less than 100 citizens are not there to protect indian citizens are they?

    yet i dont blame indians one bit. we shouldnt expect much more from them. my gripe is with the leadership of the pcb who under eunuchs has bent over backwards to tow the indian line. i cant understand what sort of education these people have received that turns grown men into spineless eunuchs. We ought to aplaud the sri lankans for their fare mindedness, and next time the indians or australians want to tour is to tell em where to jump. there is plenty of money in the arab and muslim world. just get them to fund a 20/20 tournament and watch how the hypocrites come running shouting "the game must go on" and "we're entertainers".

  • SJD on March 3, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    Mr Abbasi, I assume that in light of today's terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team that you will no longer have the temerity to assert that the repeated refusal of cricket teams to tour your country is motivated by political, racial or economic reasons, rather than genuine concerns over player safety. I also trust that you will unconditionally withdraw the baseless accusations of ulterior motives and cowardice which you have previously levelled at, inter alia, the Australian cricket team. The risk of death or injury to touring cricketers, in your country and in your country alone, has now been shown to be a very real risk. It is up to your country to do something about it and then prove to the rest of the world's satisfaction that the risk has been eliminated or, at the very least, greatly reduced. At the end of the day, the welfare of players and the families relying on them is paramount.

  • Satish on January 20, 2009, 21:14 GMT

    Hey all who ever are crying on india for pulling off the tour and calling it injustice should be out of your mind. Your guys come and blast bombs at heart of our country and kill innocent civilians and expert us to come and entertain you in your country ? I feel really discusting to see people who support themselfs even after seing so barbaric incidents. I feel countrys people and its self respect is more important than cricket and India has pulled the tour only to show its love for its people. If you really want Indian players on your soil then, proove your sincerity by stopping the terrorist acts. You can't deny that those peoples acts are not yours as they are living in your country. People are dying and you need entertainment.

  • mohsin on January 20, 2009, 15:24 GMT

    well kiyuni i dont agree with you.kashmir is a problem.by holding fake election i.e by arresting pro pakistani leaders and imposing cerfew.but i am sure that cancellation of tour by india have not affected pakistan because srilanka have toured pakistan and has silinced the critics.

  • Kiyuni sharma on January 20, 2009, 8:24 GMT

    Terrence , Ya sure take out ban on ICL players and ensure Pakistan does not play even the little cricket it is getting now . Besides Election were just held in Kashmir and all is fine there...its in ur mind and media that there is tendency to create issues and problems. Perhaps non-state actors mentality is creeping in.

  • Terrence on January 19, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    If this forum is to become a place for venting political positions let me then mention India's arrogance in ignoring the question of self-determination to the Kashmiri people for such a long time. Even from so far away we can see that it is the main cause of conflict between India and Pakistan. India's intransigence on this matter has now extended into the game of cricket. Pakistan should rethink its position of supporting India blindly in each and every matter in the ICC. For a start Pakistan should lift the ban on players playing in the ICL.

  • Bilal Choudry on January 14, 2009, 4:58 GMT

    I am not sure if this is the forum for political discussion. I see this as a good thing for Pakistan cricket as they should learn to survive without BCCI. 170 Million people fans are more than enough. Also with some encouraging changes in the PCB and induction of former players into the setup should give a chance to Pakistan cricket to start thinking on its own.

  • Fahad Khan on December 29, 2008, 14:19 GMT

    I think the best thing for Pakistan to do is to create a PPL and strengthen domestic cricket. Rahul above has stated that Pakistan does not have money for this because of the IMF loan. I don't think anyone wants the government to create the PPL but private investors to be involved. There are many Pakistanis (in Pakistan and in the US/UK) who have the money and are willing to invest in this venture. Pakistan doesn't need to play India, England or Australia. If they don't want to play, forget it. There are enough Pakistan cricket fans within Pakistan, the middle east and the West who would watch it, and I know of many people, myself included who would love to see a proper (privately owned) Karachi team in this tournament.

  • Maud on December 29, 2008, 12:48 GMT

    Lorgat's faux pas is a demonstration of weakness - This is a statement in denial mode. Its just a statement of a person who is not in denial mode. He just is worried for safety of ICC officials and is going by a neutel security consultants judgement who has experience in judging security scenarios. People in denial mode would like to misconstruct it as conspiracy theory , wrong assesment but most of worlds consulates have same assesment and not all can be corrupt. On topic of PPL , unless it gets approval of ICC, its gonna be just another rebel ICL type of tournament. Besides any sane person would know that PPL is not going to send shivers doen spine of ICC . Besides people advocating PPL , can preach anythnig but no corproate is gonna sponsor matches where quality of games is as good as an ICC associate tournament considering Zim/Bang will be other 2 contestants.ICC is not gonna loose sleep over loss of corprate sponsorship.If PCB gets govt fiunding,,then who funds LeT?????

  • vijay on December 29, 2008, 6:29 GMT

    Dear Kamran, Consider this scenario - You are doing very well and you are enjoying your life and trying to make it better and better everyday. You are progressing well. But you have a very unreasonable neighbour who is always on your throat because he has nothing else to do. He tries to pull you down every which way possible, of course by negative methods. Now, will you send your darling kids to play with this neigbour's kids, even if the innocent kids of your neighbours don't necessarily know what their parent is upto. No, right? That's exactly what the Indian government and BCCI is doing. If they send the Indian team there, it will be the greatest hypocritical act!!!

    So instead of crying foul over what BCCI has done, please try to clean up your house and try acting as a good neighbour. And you blame BCCI's economic power for this clout. How did the BCCI become cash-rich? Because the country is doing well. The business houses are investing a lot of money because they see a bright fu

  • Mudassar Rana on December 29, 2008, 4:32 GMT

    Unfortunately many indians have forgotten that pakistan has been a victim of terrorism as well, but we never say its indian inspired - and there is plenty to suggest of nefarious activities in baluchistan, swat and waziristan. 18 consulates in afghanistan where there are less than 100 citizens are not there to protect indian citizens are they?

    yet i dont blame indians one bit. we shouldnt expect much more from them. my gripe is with the leadership of the pcb who under eunuchs has bent over backwards to tow the indian line. i cant understand what sort of education these people have received that turns grown men into spineless eunuchs. We ought to aplaud the sri lankans for their fare mindedness, and next time the indians or australians want to tour is to tell em where to jump. there is plenty of money in the arab and muslim world. just get them to fund a 20/20 tournament and watch how the hypocrites come running shouting "the game must go on" and "we're entertainers".

  • Nadu Lal on December 28, 2008, 22:44 GMT

    I will tell you why India should have gone and played in Pakistan. No matter how much rosy picture you will try to paint, all is not well in India either. We see poverty, hunger, disease everyday. On top of that daily human rights violations. Husbands are killing wives because of the dowry. Parents aborting (pre birth and after birth) girls because they want boys. Corrupt politicians. Ethnic and regional tensions, religious riots on daily basis (even killing Christians in vast numbers). Even politicians in parliament were skeptical and smell rats (home grown conspiracies) about Mumbai massacre. If anybody wants examples, they are in abundance. Closing your eyes and blaming on neighbors will not resolve the issues. Any misadventure with the neighbors will spoil the whole neighborhood. We should first clean up our own house and then only we have the right to point fingers. Sports is the good mean to ease ten

    STOP the blame game. Play the real game to ease tensions.

  • Manoj on December 28, 2008, 19:28 GMT

    I like the way you are moderating the posts. It seems pretty fair for someone from a country where most people are in ostrich like denial about their role in the attacks and terror camps. Pakistani's should not expect cricket from India. At least not until they get serious about not enabling terrorists targeting India. There is a difference between intent and ability. If the intent was right , then Indians would have no problems sympathising with Pakistans problems, but it is clear that Pakistan is lacking both intent and ability. It is a very grim situation and no Indian would like to see us hanging out with Pakistani's on the field or anywhere because of that. It is a frozen anger in most Indians. Manoj

  • Rahul on December 26, 2008, 16:07 GMT

    I am amused at some of the comments made by pak fans on the terror attacks in Mumbai. Have they even watched news and read the comments of their politicians? The no. of times the pak leadership back tracked on statements made in print and visual media is there for everyone to see and it exposes the double standards of pakistan. As for evidence, well there is ample - like calls being made from pak, cordoning of the entire vilage, etc but yet people from pak are in denial and blame everyone for their own follies. As for creating a PPL and becoming a power bloc in cricket, one needs money and a country whose foreign reserves were just about enough to sustain its debt for a period of 3 weeks and who needed a 8billion USD loan from IMF as a bail out package, really needs to introspect and build itself. While India has been on the road to build its economy, pakistan has been watching it with envy and their latest act was an attempt to hit on india's prosperity. And then they expect cricket!!

  • bimlesh on December 26, 2008, 14:52 GMT

    I dont know why is Kamran so upset with Indian govt's refusal to allow the team to tour Pak. Pak PM Mr. Gilani has openly said tht Mumbai attacks may have been carried out by stateless actors over whom the govt of Pak has got no control .Now these same stateless actors like LeT and JeM are the ones who have openly threatened to eliminate India's top cricketers Sachin, Dravid and Dhoni because of which these cricketers are getting VVIP security in India. Now given the scenario that the Pak PM says his govt has absolutely no control over such elements in Pakistan why should the government of India believe the same Pak govt's assurances that full proof security will be provided.What if any cricketers gets harmed in Pakistan and then the Pak govt says its the handiwork of Indian agencies and some stateless actors and gives all kinds of excuses as it is doing now?That will be more harmful in the long run for Ind-Pak relations.

  • Martin Hooks on December 26, 2008, 11:26 GMT

    The idea of Pak-Bang-Zim league away from BCCI-ICC authority is good idea. But just one question? It will require funds and that would mean less funding for the so called non-state actors. In other words Pakistan will have choose between funding for cricket or for IT exports (International terrorism exports).

  • Kibster on December 26, 2008, 9:49 GMT

    The Indian tour has been cancelled in the wake of escalating political tensions between India and Pakistan not because BCCI wanted to isolate Pakistan cricket. It was BCCI which stood by Pakistan during the Champions Trophy meeting where all the other boards thought the otherwise. Had the governement of india given the clearance BCCI wouldnt have had any problems sending the team. Hence, I request all my friends who are blaming BCCI to think logically. I too want to see the Indo Pak seriew to take place and that too in Pakistan but I just think the time is not right. Is it fair to play cricket at a time when sparks are flying from both end. Tensions are mounting by the day. It started with a terrorist attcak and its flared up into a situation where there could be a war anytime( I seriously hope not). All my Pakistani and Indian friends who want cricket at this stage: This is not the time. Just let the dust settle down and then we shall definitely play .

  • Maud on December 26, 2008, 5:26 GMT

    Somebody suggested Pal-Ban-Zim league .Fantastic league with great exciting matches it will be. Imagine Pak vs Ban going on Lahore and Ind-SA or Eng-Aus going on at same time on TV. Crowds will definetly not watch TV and come to grounds just out of pure patriotism and they will keep doing it till ICC/BCCI begs to PCB to join them and forgive them becos Pak Vs ZIM match is so exciting everyone refuses to see Aus vs SA match at same time. Corporates beg PCB to give them TV rights while BCCI/ICC dont have any takers.The world is so frightened by the competition this league is going to gice BCCI/ICC. Wow great dream.

  • Matthew on December 26, 2008, 5:19 GMT

    PCB, Bangaldesh Cricket Board and Zimbabwe drop out of ICC and form their own league with other members. Ya cool idea. Only problem is all 3 countries are poor and what about popularity

  • Ali Dada on December 25, 2008, 19:09 GMT

    solution: PCB, Bangaldesh Cricket Board and Zimbabwe drop out of ICC and form their own league with other members.

    Let ICC rot with their own stuck up members. Immediately PCB should lift all restrictions on ICL players and ban IPL.

  • cannorton on December 25, 2008, 17:46 GMT

    Much has been lost while PCB remained complacent. They need to rise up against ICC and show the world they have organizational skills. No 'other' cricket board will come to help. Rise up, Rise up, Rise up, PCB!!!

  • Syed Gilani on December 25, 2008, 12:55 GMT

    Dear Mr. Abbassi, I don't understand why you are equating Govt of India's decision to that of BCCI's. BCCI has backed PCB all the time - for Champions Trophy, bilateral series etc. If it weren't for BCCI, Pakistan wouldn't have had any cricket to speak of in the past decade. All BCCI gets in return for its support is protests and criticism. England agreed to tour India because India is a victim and not a perpetrator. It it is no more a war between India and terrorists it's a political war and cricket is but a small cog in the bigger scheme of things. It is unfortunate that Pakistanis are accusing BCCI of double standards and arm-twisting.

  • Raghu Sakleshpur on December 25, 2008, 8:38 GMT

    Kamran, do you honestly believe that Pakistan and India are equitable? Your article seems to be written by some one going green with envy looking across the border! By writing this article, do you realize that you are complicit to the terrorist outfits operating on Pakistani soil? OK, even if it were to be acceptable to you that the Pakistani government look the other way while its army and intelligence agencies spread terrorism across its border, where do you come off criticizing ICC for this? ICC and the rest of the world all agree that Pakistan is a safe terrorist haven! If only the educated masses from Pakistan spent half the effort in writing about tackling the real problems in their country, this world could be a much safer and better place for all not just for playing cricket!

  • Hussain K on December 25, 2008, 8:35 GMT

    What Pakistan cricket need is a strong, independent and finacially secure PCB. Pakistan cricket should not and must not rely on BCCI on it survival. This line was once suggested by Mr Abbasi an an earlier blog...it has come back to bit him in the bum. BCCI in its foresight and good wisdom has forged ahead in leaps and bounds, whereas PCB is waiting for world sympathy and a begging hat. Have a strong domestic competition...I am sure there are many rich sponsors in Pakistan and abroad who are more than willing to support/ sponsor cricket teams and players in Pakistan. Forget about inviting teams to Pakistan, play more cricket on neutral venues. Last and very important, do a reality check and accept that security situation is currently far worse than any Pakistani is willing to admit.

  • John on December 25, 2008, 7:04 GMT

    here we go again Kamran. Blame everyone else in the world for Pakistan woes. When are you people going to stand up and be counted!

  • Chinmay Dhopate on December 25, 2008, 6:01 GMT

    Azfar Rashid, re Kashmir, Gujrat, Orissa, Assam etc, what happens in our own country is our internal matter. You cannot equate that with Mumbai bomb blasts. At least we are not sending gunment to Karachi yet.

  • FAHAD on December 25, 2008, 4:30 GMT

    TO all my indian friends.Firstly there are more than 16 crore people in pakistan.99% or more are not terrorists evan if we agree that these 10 people were paki terrists it does not mean the nation as a whole is terrorist.Secondly the Pak government has offered full support to the Indian govt and asked for a joint investigation to be carried out which would be transparent and for the whole world to see.Thirdly India has given a list of people to be arrested and prosecuted and the govt of pak has RIGHTLY asked for proof which the Indian Govt hasnt done..I do understand the anger of the Indian public and i personally and 99% of the PAK public were outraged by these henious acts but Indias response is of hate and anger for ALL PAKISTANIS which is very unjust to say the least.MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT U CANNOT BLAME THE WHOLE COUNTRY FOR SOMETHING THAT 10 PEOPLE OF THAT COUNTRY ALLEDGDLY DID.AND BY CANCELLING THE SERIES INDIA WANTS TO PUNISH THE WHOLE NATION MOST OF WHO ARE PEACELOVING PEOPLE

  • prashanth reddy on December 25, 2008, 1:53 GMT

    Did anyone ask England to keep politics from sport when it boycotted Zimbabwe for purely political reasons? Did anyone ask New Zealand the same when it boycotted Kenya for political reasons. How many Englishmen have died at the hands of Zimbabweans? None. How many Kiwis have been killed by Kenyans? None. How many Indians have died at the hands of sponsored terrorism accross from Pakistan? A small matter of 60-something thousand. Not that you aren't aware of all these facts. As regards to double standards, you cannot compare the security system between the two countries. And BTW, only one country is responsible for all these atrocities. So, before you any Pakistani makes such statements, they should be ashamed of these facts.

  • jishah on December 24, 2008, 22:17 GMT

    Cricket is fast becoming a gene cestpool as is the case of cousins marrying cousins. Pretty soon cricketing nations will look exactly the same-like each other-with the Dad "BCCI" and the wife "ICC" in tow. Same faces everywhere.

    The cricket playing base is fast shrinking and no new nations are adopting it.

    To hell with cricket. I am following baseball - Go RedSox.

  • Kenneth on December 24, 2008, 17:27 GMT

    As I see it, Pakistani cricket is doomed. It seems like this is all by design of International Cricket governing nations and bodies. How first Australia ditched them and then Champions trophy is drooped even after ICC's security attestation. Now India has turned its back and even after Sri Lanka's committment to tour Pakistan, now ICC's "genius" Mr. Lorgat is contemplating sending neutral impires to stand in SL-Pak series on security ground. On now top of that, the Sri Lankan minister now having sacked Mr. Arjuna Ranatunga, the last warrior had fallen who stood eye-to-eye to India and ICC bullying. Ranatunga had promised tour of Pakistan but now even SL minitstry of sport is questing that tour and with the desgins of Pakistan cricket isolation, I think that also will go down the drain. What I suggest to Pakistan, is to develop his own domestic cricket to a point where the local fans are interested in coming to the game. South African cricket during his apartheid govt is a good example

  • kiiiiyu on December 24, 2008, 14:32 GMT

    Too bad you guys speak too soon praisisng SL and lam-blasting India for no reason . SL will cancel tour.This is my judgment and my business acumen has made me a millionaire.Wanna bet 1000$. As a succesful business man , who has offices in India and Dubai , I bet ,SL wont tour Pakistan. So better not count the chickens before they hatch.

  • Kabli Khan from Mardan on December 24, 2008, 14:13 GMT

    Descision by ICC has a political slant. Agreed that safety of every individual of a visiting squad is paramount, I am not aware of any instance where ICC has expressed such concerns exclusively for the officials. This is a blatent excercise to isolate Pakistan from matches on its soil. Instead of bowing to a powerful member, ICC needs to show spine .... and Pakistan needs to be firm and tell its neighbor to stop living in dream and admit to these horendous action in Bombay by its own homegrown saboteours and deal with it ..... and do not lay burdon on Pakistan. Pakistan should also tell them in clear terms that the extremist acts in Pakistan are also by none other than the Indian agents.... and cricket is made to suffer because of that.

  • Martin Hooks on December 24, 2008, 13:44 GMT

    Pakistanis suddenly seem to have understood the world "double standards" when England toured India but have not toured Pakistan. But you guys also seem to conveniently seem to use double standards when you act like you are an ally in war of terror and ..............I guess world knows it so not point in repeating facts.

  • Azfar Rashid on December 24, 2008, 13:34 GMT

    Pathetic to see Indian readers making such inflammatory remarks agains PAK when the article doesn't say antyhing against India as a country. It simply questions the logic behind ICC's decision of ANOTHER security check.

    These IGNORANT PEOPLE need to wake up & realise that PAK is NOT A WARZONE! Though thats how the Indian media & government are trying their utmost to make it seem like!They all talk against PAK as if they have proof sitting on their laps! Interpol yesterday confirmed that India gave no evidence to them, PAK OR the UN, but India says it gave proof to everyone else except these three! HOW SENSIBLE??!

    India HAS NO proof, it never did before when it accused PAK of Delhi, Samjhota express attack & it turned out to be Indians involved!

    INDIA LIES!

    If nations are touring India with its human rights record including atrocities in KASHMIR, ASSAM,SL,NEPAL,ORISSA & GUJRAT where 1000s of its own people have been massacred,they must be doing it for money.

    HOW SAD!

  • Abdul Karim on December 24, 2008, 13:23 GMT

    I think countries who do not tour Pakistan, have the right not do to so. After all Pakistan is an unstable and highly volatile country. And in fact would be a labeled a terrorist-state if not for helping US in the war against the Taliban. But the really underlying issue, which for some reason everyone forgets is that you have a corrupt unstable country, with a ex-convict leader who somehow got elected. Terrorist training camps which should be shut down but are not. Now why would a team want to tour a country is that situation?

  • mohan on December 24, 2008, 13:18 GMT

    SL board just fired Ranatunga ,who was so keen to make SL tour Pakistan. As far as SL players , if they want to play and earn in IPL , they will not go to Pakistan if ICL players are included in either team. SL recently adjusted dates for England tour so that their players could play in IPL. So guys out there who are calling for ICL players to be included in Pakistani team are just making sure Pakistan is not toured by any country for next few decades;) where SL ,well wann bet 100$ they gonna take a U turn soon or send a B or C team.

  • sheikh tariq on December 24, 2008, 11:50 GMT

    cricket must go on mr haroon stop this nonsence we knew how much money u get from bcci when sl wiling to come pak you gave nice statement about oficails plz think about pakistani fans also who want to see cricket in pakistan

  • thomas on December 24, 2008, 11:48 GMT

    Pakistan cricket bosses must approach ICC to schedule more Overseas matches for Pakistan.Tour Newzealand,West Indies,Zimbabwe etc. As far as India is concerned Politics have taken the front stage & cricket is a loser. Inspite of being an Indian I was a great fan of the previous generations of Pakistani cricketers Saqlain Mushtaq, Mustaq Ahmed, Inzi, Yousef Youhanna,Salim Malik, Miandad, Imran Khan, Zaheer Abbas, the two W's why I think even Basit Ali was a good cricketer. So sad many of the most colourful personalities are now no longer playing and the next generation of cricketers are hardly inspiring a real challenge to the present Indian teams. The older days it was mouth watering prospect of Indian teams vs the 2W's,their swing and reverse swinging and toe crushing yorkers, what would Miandad do or Salim Malik can we get out afridi quickly or will Imran score quick runs Even here in the Middle East many of my Pakistani friends no longer think too much of the present Pak team

  • Sri Vats on December 24, 2008, 10:51 GMT

    I believe that cricketing nations who pledge their full commitment to human rights should not only stop playing against Pakistan, but also should stop playing against countries like Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe. The Sri Lankans have readily accepted the invitation from PCB even before the PCB invited them. In fact, the Sri Lankans, who are increasingly becoming notorious for serious human rights violations and Genocide against the minority Tamils in their backyard openly invited PCB to invite them to tour. It has to be noted the last test playing nation that toured Zimbabwe was, none other than Sri Lanka, proving the long lingered suspicion that the partners in 'crime' are showing solidarity to each other!

  • Khan on December 24, 2008, 7:28 GMT

    just shows the double standard of ICC towards Pakistan, I guess ICC should be finished as it's a useless institute and BCCI should take all decisions on behalf of crappy ICC instead?? after a successful and incident free Asia cup all teams should have go and played in Pakistan...or else Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe ,Bangladesh should boycott ICC and play among themselves..

  • Arif M ANsari on December 24, 2008, 6:49 GMT

    In my opinion, ICC is not playing fairly with the situation. This will further disrupt the cricket of Pakistan.

  • Rajesh on December 24, 2008, 5:16 GMT

    If other teams do not want to tour Pakistan, it is Pakistan's problem and Pakistan has to solve it itself - blaming others and telling India has its problems is not going to solve it. It is the same mentality that makes - as one gentleman called them on this blog "school kids"- go and kill 160 people in an alien country - blaming others for their problems. Personal responsbility is what someone needs to take up as a national cause rather than feelings of outrage because the rest of the world wants to lead a safe existence.

  • Sammy on December 24, 2008, 3:36 GMT

    Pakistan should take all action possible to stop terrorist training camps from freely operating within the borders. Pakistan is still in denial mode after all the evidence has been laid on the table. When 9/11 happened, lots of PAkistanis and still do believe that it was Isreal who was responsible!! First clean up your house before blaming BCCI. Had it not been for BCCI supporting PCB, the Champions Trophy would already have taken place in another country by now!!

  • Rajat Gupta on December 24, 2008, 3:21 GMT

    I am looking at some of the comments made by people from Pakistan. It shows that how people tend to forget a bigger picture and beilieve in short term memory. India was the first country who funded a cricket series in Pakistan without participating in that series. If India is rich in money so do the benefit goes to the Pakistani players and players in the world. India and Pakistan is series have always been profitable for Pakistan or other test playing nations. Therefore, before you blame India then consider these facts also.

    At the same, you must remember that People from Pakistan have been found involved in bomb blasts which happened in US, London, Madrid, India and so many other countries and whole world is watching this epicentre of International terrorism. Therefore, future is even much worse for Pakistan. Therefore, it si important for pakistan to clean up his house before World accept them.

  • honest_indian on December 24, 2008, 2:19 GMT

    Wow! it is really amazing to read all these comments.If just a small bunch of cricket fans - probably well educated- have such opposite views - think about the overall population of india and pak.

    Think about it my pakistani friends.. Why do you think the whole world is against Pak? God sent a message to every country? I wouldnt say India is perfect. Sure there are places where folks have taken violence to advance their causes. But i doubt Indian government or army is running factories to train and export terrorists across the world. Can you really not see that perpetrators of every major attack around the world has a pakistani connection? Wake up.. for your own good. Your government is actively promoting the message that pak is a failed state - since 9/11 they are playing the same card. Oh! give us $$, we will help you little bit. If we push us too much Jihadis will take over and it will be worse. The current govt has gone one more step saying only prev govt supported them, not us

  • Faraaz on December 24, 2008, 1:39 GMT

    Very easy for anyone to say "INTROSPECTION" like pAkistanis r sitting idly and enjoying the bombs which r showering,loosing their loved ones,like u dnt know wat pakistan is doing and wat a common pakistani wants.we want peace like everybody else in this whole wide world and cricket for crying out loud.only thing is that its not that easy to diffrentiate between a commoner and a bomber.we have a crackdown on jamat-ud-dawa formerly known as lashkar-e-tayyaba,didnt we have half of our army on western front fighting those criminals & murderers which have been prepared by CIA to wreak havoc for their own interest?if its that easy to control such elements or so called non state actors why havent u been able to terminate those separatist movements going on in ur country?let me tell u something pakistanis r doing everything they can.let me remind u something else this article wasnt about india not touring pak it was about icc sending a security assessment team to pak.

  • Tariq Javed on December 24, 2008, 1:28 GMT

    Guys .This is not double standard, it is actually substandard decsion from some ignorant bunch of (so called) people.

  • Divx on December 24, 2008, 1:25 GMT

    My neighbor has a great family and his sons and we play cricket on most weekends. He is fond of dogs and has dozens of them in his house and his farm. The problem is he can't take care of all of them. Many of the dogs have rabies and they keep biting people in his house and outside. Few years ago he himself gave some shots to make some of these dogs ferocious to protect him. But now all of them have gone crazy and are beyond his control. Things in his house are terrible, with the dogs biting around, his crazy wife ruling the house (sometimes beating him), and simply refusing to do away with the dogs. Very recently one of the dogs bit my family member. When I complained to my neighbor while he was coming from the hospital after getting his own son a rabies shot, his reply was "I should prove that the dog which bit my family member and which we confined in a room was from his own farm".

    Now what should my mom do? 1) Allow me to play cricket with the neighbor's sweet little son as my neighbor is guaranteeing safety during play. 2) Forget about everything and play. 3) Force them to clean up/control the dogs first before playing. 4) Complain to authorities and try to remove the dogs our self if the neighbor (his wife) is not interested.

    What would you do? Of course we all love cricket !!

  • shj3 on December 24, 2008, 1:14 GMT

    I just condemn the remarks given by Lorgat. Surely it is becoz of BCCI and nothing else. Why he wants so even when the Sri Lankans are ready to tour without any inspection? it is just for India who wants to use its monoply. Why Icc didn't want security inspection for its officials after Bombay incidece? Just for India. As regards the allegations of producing terrorists on Pakistan, It shows the hidden hatred of the indian for Pakistan. Always they have some thing to blame pakistan and even they theirselves stage some shows like Bombay incidenc in order to blame pakistan. So, i will suggest them first to clean their own house and then advise others. Even, we are affected by some indian state terrorists and yes we have to clean pakistan from RAW Pak should Lift ban from ICL players Take out players from IPL Say gdbye to BCCI Develop relation with SL and BD Organize its full strength team Develop strategy to reply indian propaganda We don't want to play with hypocrites like Indian

  • Hemant Gandhi on December 24, 2008, 1:09 GMT

    Kamran,

    As cricket lovers, we are also sad that the tour was cancelled. I for one truly believe that there is no way any Indian cricketer will be hurt while touring Pakistan.

    Indians fail to understand that the so called, uncontrollable, non-state actors are actully very well controlled in Pakistan so you are right, there is no way any violance can take place when the tour is on.

    It is unfortunate that respected people like you tend to ignore the fact and divert attention to another problem. Accepting the problem is first step towards solving the problem. We south asians, which include India, Pakistan, Srilanka and Bangladesh, have been kept hostages since our independence by our respective politicians. Indian common man (and media) has worked hard to break the shackles. Pakistani people also have the same ability but they need to open their eyes and say what they see rather than what they required to say.

    It is about time, sir!

    Best Regards

  • Madhu on December 24, 2008, 1:01 GMT

    Mr Abassi is dead wrong in blaming India for cancellation of the Tour. Pakistan government may be serious about pursuing friendly relations with India but their military and their ISI are paranoid and their power is largely dependent on perpetuating the anti India bias.These elements need to be isolated both in sport and economy. Hence the ban on Pakistan cricket Pakistan is my second favorite cricket team after India because I believe most pakistanis are nice people and I have always admired Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar and Javed Miandad. I always root for Pakistan when they play the western nations. But this transgression by pakistan is one of several and they deserve to be isolated. Instead of playing the VICTIM, Pakistanis need to stand up and get rid of these bad elements in their society and become the open progressive society that they are capable of. PAKISTANIS, LISTEN UP, WE DONT WANT YOUR COUNTRY!! Get OVER YOUR PARANOIA. Are we nuts to want your country and all its probs

  • Imran on December 24, 2008, 0:04 GMT

    This world is full of hypocrites and many of you are stupid or completely conditioned. U.S. created a mess back in the 80's in order to defeat communism and now that the mess is affecting the world its all Pakistan's fault for being an american ally in 80's. Everyone hates pakistan and many now (e.g. india, U.N., ICC, U.S. etc...) take the opportunity to add fuel to the fire and to hide their own shortcomings.

    The U.S. failed to eradicate terrorists from Afgh. and let them escape to pakistan... who's fault is it?

    Indian security is so terrible that it allegedly let in a bunch of pakistani's into their country with weapons... still pakistan's fault!

    While Pakistan's fighting harder than anyone else including the U.S. to destroy terrorism but you hypocrites fail to take notice of that. im talking politics coz ur talking politics... wake up and stop acting like your world would be a utopia without pakistan!

    Thank you Sri Lanka i hope we do pick ICL players just for the heck of it!

  • A cricket Fan on December 23, 2008, 23:54 GMT

    My fellow Pakistanis.. please forget about cricket and stop begging shameful and useless ICC, INDIA or UNO. Stick together in this difficult time. Its not just cricket, they want to isolate Pakistan in every way. And who ever says Pakistan should clean its house, well my message is that I completely agree with him.. Pakistan should completely clean its house from RAW agents who are behind every thing. GOD BLESS PAKISTAN.

  • Sai on December 23, 2008, 23:53 GMT

    WAKE UP PAKISTAN.... It's time for introspection where Pakistan is heading. Nobody wants to visit Pakistan now. If the situation continues like this soon Pakistanis will be banned to visit other countries.

  • minnows on December 23, 2008, 23:45 GMT

    i just want to knw from the people who thinks pakistan should ban its cricketers from participating in indian cricket leauges, how they can do it?? its individual decisions of those players even when they knew that they will be banned from international cricket if they choose to play icl. now how can you thuink these people will listen to their cricket board...moreover they have signed contracts already..and there is from they are earning their bread and butter...so pls wake up. if pakistan dare to ban its cricketer from playing in indian leagues there can be revolt within players..coz they will miss dollars.

  • iplay on December 23, 2008, 23:39 GMT

    It is baffling to read Kamran's views on the current crisis that surrounds Pakistan cricket. It also gives me an insight on the Pakistani mentality. If we are to believe Kamran these "Perpetrators of atrocities" seem to be dropping for the sky and causing havoc in India. For some strange reason he believes that Pakistan is a "victim" of terror. I think he is really naive to no to understand that Pakistan has been the genesis of terror for the last 20 years. It time people in Pakistan realize this and take up some responsibility. Its a pleasure to see that the world has realized that Pakistan is a rabid dog that needs to be ostracized. It makes things very fair.

    Instead of blaming India/BCCI/ICC/Austalia/Eng/IPL/ICL/kenya/"Perpetrators of atrocities" for the current mess, it would be more useful if you went around your country and pleaded your countrymen to stop this rein of terror before the world puts this rabid dog to rest.

  • SAFDAR HUSSAIN on December 23, 2008, 23:32 GMT

    I personally believe ICC is black mailed by BCCI as it generates maximum revenue.What about India's attitude towards Pakistan?Just want to Bully it for any act that happens in India to divert people attention from state failure. I BELIEVE INDIA AND PAKISTAN CAN NEVER BE FRIENDS as India has never accepted Pakistan from its heart.Let the CRICKET go to hell if it is at the cost of your pride and independence.

  • Cantona on December 23, 2008, 23:15 GMT

    After reading through a few comments,can all the indians please tell me that is your country clean ? Isnt there any terrorist activities going on there ?? Please dont get me started as i could be here all day and night.You need to have at look at your own house,fair enough pakistan is in a terrible state but please stop being whiter then white !!

    Its just Ridicilous that the Eng cricket team can go india but would they go pakistan ? Fat chance of the happening.and they say its not about the monies.....Hmmmm

  • Srini_USA on December 23, 2008, 23:07 GMT

    Before reading these comments, I was thinking that its only the non-state-actors in Pakistan must change..... now I guess, the people in that country also should change their thinking. Just ask yourself, that "How much You are really proud of being a pakistani?". How much you are happy with everyday your own people getting bomblasted? Are you reallly proud of.... isn't time for little house cleaning? Cricket will be lot better to play in a Cleaner Pakistan.... who can match those yarkers by Wasim, Waquar and pace of Shoib? These guys deserve much more respect and glory .... than a tag that they are from a t-nation.

  • Jigsaw on December 23, 2008, 22:49 GMT

    I am a big fan of cricket and even a bigger fan of Ind-Pak games but I see most of the guys here keep talking about double standards. What we should talk here and on the streets of Pakistan is that why is Pakistan in such a state? Why is Pakistan almost declared a terrorist country? What are people of Pakistan and Government of Pakistan and for that matter Pakistani Media are doing? Tel me some thing other than "Denying" and Ignoring and enticing people of pakistan against India. Why don't you talk about growth of people in Pakistan, Help poor people of Paki and get rid of all the terrorists you have and you know you have in your country. It will not be easy task but you need to start now or it will be too late. Back to Cricket, BCCI did not called the tour off, Indian govt. did. Don't forget it was BCCI which was in full support of PCB to ensure PCB don't loose hosting rights for champs trophy. You should be proud of having such a powerful neighbour not jealous.

  • Fahad Khan on December 23, 2008, 22:40 GMT

    In response to comments earlier that Pakistan needs to deal with its terrorists while India's house is in order. It may be pertinent to remind everyone that India has zillions of insurgencies going on within it. And a lot of terror is the result of internal problems. It easy to blame everything on Pakistanis. All they have is the evidence of one captured man, and we all know the the methods of interrogation used in our part of the world. We can make a tiger confess its a monkey. However this political debate will never end, and it would be wiser for cricket to rise above it. Despite countless of evidence of indian agency RAW's involvement in creating terror inside Pakistan, Pakistanis have never called for breaking of cricketing and cultural ties.

  • Rajesh on December 23, 2008, 22:26 GMT

    What double standards. The terrorism in Pak is being caused by home grown terrorists and it is now being exported to rest of the world. It is a dangerous place. Period. If Pak wants teams to play there, it needs to get its house in order before blaming others. Its a time for introspection. DO not blame the rest of the world for your problems - they are caused by the people in the country itself.

  • RK on December 23, 2008, 22:23 GMT

    I think there is no harm in letting Pakistan team tour other countries, nobody should tour pakistan until the world unanimously agrees that Pakistan is a safe place to play cricket for international teams.

  • Danish on December 23, 2008, 22:22 GMT

    Pakistani should end all ties with a terrorist nation like India who hs killed more than hundred thousand Kashmiris since Independence. Indian democracy...my phoot!

  • Madison_Guy on December 23, 2008, 22:19 GMT

    U.S, U.K, U.N, Russia, all are lying? The family in Pakistan who say that terrorist was their son are lying? I find it shocking how you can think of playing cricket. BCCI has always helped your board. Dont forget, ICL or IPL, the money that ur players get is from India. There isn't much wrong with countries like India having a bigger say as they generate most of the revenue. I am tired of Pakistan crying they are the victims. Open your eyes as it is only your public which thinks that(blindsighted by your media). This is just the beginning. It is matter of time before pakistan will get isolated in all areas.

  • Habib on December 23, 2008, 21:56 GMT

    India has a habit of blaming Pakistan for even a samll cracker on its land. Indian Govt. and media played the same role during the Malegaon blasts and then in Samjhota Train blasts. They concluded that ISI was behind all this mess. Finally what a happened was that their own army men were involved in these coward acts. They are playing the same game again but no one is going to trust you this time. This is not a political forum but Methew gave a political comment so i thougt to write here. Cricket should be played, if not in Pakistan than at neutral venues. Donot bring politics into games.

  • A M on December 23, 2008, 21:50 GMT

    will u take responsibility, if anything happens to tendulkar or dhoni? its easy to talk or write.

  • ketu29 on December 23, 2008, 21:40 GMT

    i guess you reap what you sow.pakistan is getting hammered for harboring terrorists on its soil.one cannot play a sport in isolation,if you are harboring terrorists do not expect cricketing sympathy.the BCCI may have arm twisted the ICC butthe pakistani politicians are the ones to blame.

  • Waqar on December 23, 2008, 21:03 GMT

    It appalaing that Mr. Lorgat has come out in support of India and speaks for India.It appears he does not want any cricket to be played in Pakistan and simply toying the line of India due to thier monopoly in ICC. Did he checked the security situations in India before sending ICC officials there for two test series? India being such a huge country so difficult to manage has more security issues than Pakistan which was quite evident when 10 school kids stormed Taj and Tridient hotels and it took Indian security agencies 60 hours to end the drama. what does it show? is indian security appratus better than Pakistan? Mr. Lorgat please do stop playing games with Cricket. You are CEO of ICC and Not of BCCI!

  • Amjad Rashid on December 23, 2008, 20:52 GMT

    I am sick and tired of the double standards by a few. It is time Pakistan reinstated the players they banned who have taken part in the ICL, it should think of its own players and not BCCI.

  • bharat on December 23, 2008, 20:20 GMT

    I am from India and disagree with Kamran that BCCI/Indian Govt's decision to not tour Pakistan is "unfortunate" and a "blow to south asian cricket". Cancelling the tour has sent a strong signal to Pak as to the seriousness of their "home-grown" terrorism problem. Pakistani citizens need to get their head out of sands and see the problem around them and deal with it. They are sitting idle while the country is being high-jacked by their relegious leaders. What are the people doing? Don't just sit and watch cricket, speak out against what you hear in your mosque and deride what you read in your book, if it is not realistic or outdated. Several moderate Muslims in India have come to this realization and I hope Pakistani muslims too realize it soon. Do it atleast to save the lives of the young suicide bombers...young, smart and capable boys are being highjacked by your relegious leaders and you want to watch cricket..? I feel sorry for Kasab and his friends. Save them! Bharat.

  • shiraz on December 23, 2008, 19:37 GMT

    ICC decision to do a security survey for officials is shocking and mind boggling. Everyone knows india cancelled the tour due to political reasons not security. ICC failed to find any security issues when England traveled to India for the ongoing Test series in spite of the killings in Mumbai. No sports event has ever been targeted in Pakistan. I can only think that BCCI is pressuring ICC and PCB needs to rethink its policies towards BCCI.

  • Adnan on December 23, 2008, 19:31 GMT

    I agree with Dave. I think this is best time for PCB to select IPL stars.

  • Eidee Man on December 23, 2008, 19:21 GMT

    Good analysis, as always. Although I hope that you and other commentators will soon have the chance to write about cricket rather than geo-politics.

    Also, I'd echo Athar's comments. Red is just not your color :-).

  • Skywalker on December 23, 2008, 19:20 GMT

    Before you blame Govt. of India on their decision , I just wish you understand the sentimental of human loss in India . Why can you or anybody in Dawn or in press start movements in Pakistan to put pressure on your Govt and law and order Agencies to control and kill these non state group and people. I know it is beyond your control and people of Pakistan by and large are not responsible or do not know what is going on but just start raising voices for your peace loving brothers across the line !

  • gb on December 23, 2008, 19:20 GMT

    I'll qualify my remarks by saying I'm an Indian.

    I believe the decision by Indian govt to not tour Pak is right for now. It is now not the right time to tour Pak. BUT it is extremely strange for a Pak cricket fan to criitze the BCCI. In the ICC Pak cricket has had no bigger supporter than the BCCI. The non-Asians were ready to right off Pak in the 90s. It was only due to India's backing that didn't happen. SL will always tour because they too have little choice but the other countries began touring only when India started touring only after India did. The Pak cricket fraternity is now actively alienating the one "Big" cirkcet nation that has tended to support. THAT is the real reason cricket in Pak will die. The current roadblock preventing the Indian team from touring will just prevent a tour for 1-2 years. The Pak reaction aided by their political inaction will give us potentially another 18 years without a tour. Surely the current pak cricket structure cannot survive that.

  • Baber on December 23, 2008, 19:06 GMT

    Lorgat needs to learn a lesson or two from Muntazar Al-Zaidi !

  • Asif Sarfraz on December 23, 2008, 19:04 GMT

    It is all to see now Pakistan cricket is being pushed out, slowly but surely! I know it's tv rights but how comes in the uk they show Australia, New Zealand, west indies, India, south Africa and England matches! They haven't shown a Pakistan match since our team went to south Africa! What does this mean! It is simply infuriating! The one-day series that was played against west indies were fascinating, they didn't decide to show of over here though! ICC need to sort it out! It's funny how they were dropping down to there knees for England to play India, but after months of terrorists attacks in Pakistan they want to send in a security team! Whereas England went back to India after a week or so after the worst attacks in that country! Nobody wants to see these attacks happening, and god forbid they happen anywhere in the world but Pakistan is being singled out, we promised presedential style security at the champions trophy and nobody wanted to come! I am sick of double standards!

  • anonymous on December 23, 2008, 19:02 GMT

    India's decision to cancel their tour is an appropriate blow to cricket in pakistan.

    How long will "writers" like Kamran continue to use cricket as an excuse to hide the social, economic and political issues in Pakistan?

    How can cricket or any sport be separated from the reality that Pakistan is a hot bed for terrorism sponsorship and that it has consistently plotted against India?

    If Pakistan sincerely wants to create a friendship with India, it needs to demonstrate its commitment to do so by fixing the above mentioned issues first.

    All Indians and Pakistanis love to see an India-Pakistan cricket match - the passion it evokes is second to none in the sporting world. Having said that I'm not interested in seeing such a match unless the terrorism issue is fixed.

  • Tahir on December 23, 2008, 18:45 GMT

    I fully agree with David Furrows comments. At least we have seen some people raising their voice in favour of cricket in general & Pakistan in particular. I am not sure what Mr Lagoot is trying to say. He may be trying to keep himself in good books of India.I am fully supportive of the idea of including ICL players in both the teams(offcourse on their merits). I hope that ICC will not create any obstacle in the way of Pakistan & let cricket rule rather than what cricket so called authorities want.

  • ellamony on December 23, 2008, 18:43 GMT

    One must remember that BCCI did not cancel the tour of Pakistan. BCCI was only following the orders of the Indian government. BCCI was more then willing to tour as long as the Indian government allowed them. I wish everyone would stop rushing to blame every problem on the BCCI. I agree they have many problems, but to blame cancellation of the tour on them is ridiculous.

    Thanks,

  • Fahad Khan on December 23, 2008, 18:38 GMT

    Yes, Kamran, please change the photo. Are you on facebook too?

  • murad on December 23, 2008, 18:28 GMT

    Mr Largot seems to have intention to prevent any cricket in pakisatn. If countries dont wanna come ..dont come....Butu why is he whobbling those who want to come in the first place. "take assurances" from pakistan before sending your team."the referee and umpire" seem unsafe. The icc has plaed a good role for the boosting morale of the terrorist and terrorism!! pakistan should lift the ban on ICL players and not oblige BCCI any more. largots remarks were disgusting and baiss...He should have appericiated Srilanka for going on to visit Pakisatn instaed he is playing the role Of the SATAN...by casting clouds of hopelessness and fear. the asain block has lost its nitegrity so has ICC for all those like me.

  • Aly Khan on December 23, 2008, 18:15 GMT

    My advise to PCB: Secede from ICC. Form your own ACC - Asian Cricket Council - with the help of Chinese Cricket Board. Member countries of ACC will be: Pakistan, China, Thailand, and possibly Sri Lanka if they can be convinced to break away from ICC and join the ACC. With China on board, it'll boost ACC's image and rub into ICC's nose. India, Australia and England who rule ICC's board, will think twice before making anti-Pakistan comments. China has always been Pakistan's storngest partner - politically, economically, and defensively. If India, England, and Australia want to make a political statement of ICC's ruling, then so be it. Pakistan too can make such statements. Within the next decade, China will emarge as the strongest cricketing nation and Pakistan will stand tall in helping them out. Who wants IPL, ICL, and ICC when China is there to help a lending hand to its closest partner. Good luck and best regards in this new formation. Regards, Aly Khan, USA

  • Adnan Gul from Portugal on December 23, 2008, 18:12 GMT

    100% agreed with Mr Kamran that it is a double standard by ICC that has been hijacked by few powerful boards and is unable to decide its own. why the hell ICC did not send the security team to India after the Mumbai attacks?? It is also a lesson for PCB not to support blindly BCCI on every action, specialy banning their Top players from playing for Pakistan. We appreciate and hope a good relation between In & Pak to play and improve their games but on same level of treatment.

  • Waseem Javed on December 23, 2008, 18:00 GMT

    Note my words "Indian Suppermacy is bad for the future of this wonderful game of Cricket". All the cricket boards seems helpless against BCCI, just take an example of current England tour, the hotel where English players were staying was under attack and ECB gave the tour go ahead as schedule and now just to please BCCI, and Indian government Mr. Lorgat will try his best to stop Sri Lanka from visiting Paksitan. I Wish we could keep the politics away from sports but because we are unable to do that, i'll just want to ask one question from "Indian Government" Why don't they remove the root cause of all these Terrorism issue, "Why don't you let International observers go into Kashmir??". I hope Cricinfo official will allow this post to go online which i am doughtfull of because it is run by my friends from India.

  • Mudassar Rana on December 23, 2008, 17:28 GMT

    PCB needs to get a backbone from somewhere just as the nations leaders do. The hypocricisy of the western world is there for all to see in both the political and sporting sphere's. Yet these eunuch leaders that we get given can do nothing more than bend further backwords - the backbone will break very soon in both sphere's and hopefully a new sincere leadership will emerge.

    i also agree with athar - that pic needs to go kamran!

  • Malik Umar on December 23, 2008, 17:23 GMT

    ICC have different policy for Pakistan only. They can make the teams visit Pakistan or setup a mutual or agreed venue to make the play "safe". But all they do is just pass comments and raising so-called safety concerns only about Pakistan. i remember Dhoni said on Nov 26 morning that "Pakistan is unsafe to play" and later on that day events happened mumbai caused others captains to say "India is unsafe to play". i hope Dhoni would have felt how it feels when other people passes comments about homeland.

  • Mustafa Fayyaz on December 23, 2008, 17:18 GMT

    The only basis of PCB running with BCCI was that they will get support when it will matter. Now that we know what BCCI has done, I don't care who decided what. PCB need to get the ICL players back, offer them contracts, rub it in BCCI's face, cut all ties from them, and support the western block in all ICC event. Lets see how long India stay away from Pakistan then.

  • SYED on December 23, 2008, 17:15 GMT

    Let me finish my earlier post. The whole notion of ICC wanting to assess security for their officials to utilize this for champions trophy is a complete waste of exercise , rest assured leading countries will still conveniently find RISKS to refuse that tour. I would not even worry about champions trophy for now. What is important is to send a clear message, take a stance with sense and vision and stick to it. Pak shoud even consider NOW to lift bans on ICL players.

    Thanks, SYED................USA..

  • SYED on December 23, 2008, 17:08 GMT

    I think it's about time to take some tough decisions regarding the future of Pak cricket. Usuallu I consder myself as pretty cool and composed, not too sentimental ,I rather try to think on logic and diplomacy, BUT this is completely outrageous, inspection for officials, Yeahhh u r right. Where was this ICC, recently in India Vs. England series, How about Asad Rauf's security in supervising the test. U talk about double standards, clear from some other countries Now ICC has openly joined the chorus. Bilateral series are not ICC operated, like some other events. Its simple somebody has to stand up from Pakistan, If u keep on bending and trying to unnecessarily pleased everybody, u will break pretty soon and will be easily run over by anybody.I am not a man of confrontation, BUT Enough is Enough. PCB need to put its foot down, Come out with a loud and clear policy. ICC inspections Not allowed or welcome here for pak vs sri lanka series, They can even propose to use officials from Pak ,sr

  • Nayab on December 23, 2008, 17:05 GMT

    It seems India is not going to let Sri Lanka visit Pakistan either. Lankan board has not been dissolved today for nothing all of a sudden. Ranatunga has been too vocal against IPL and his decision to send Lankan team to Pakistan seems to be the last straw for India/BCCI. Forgive me if I am wrong but I see Indian hand behind all this. I don't care if India visits Pakistan or not (in fact they better not come now)but this is getting too much to digest now. World cricket needs to tackle this mafia like behaviour by India.

  • NK on December 23, 2008, 17:03 GMT

    I am surprised that so many people have not realised that this is a decision taken by the government of India, and not the BCCI. The BCCI has to follow the directives of the GoI.

    It is a different matter altogether that I believe it is a correct decision on the part of the GoI. This is just another means of putting pressure on the Pakistani government, which is unbelievably enough, still in denial mode about the nationality of the militants. Whether sports and politics must be kept apart is a whole new topic of discussion, but there are times when it is impossible to separate the two.

    By the same measures, I think that the BCCI's support of the ZCU is shameful.

    Calling off the tour does have unfortunate repercussions, mostly on the Pakistani cricket fans. BUT if the tour were to go ahead, it would almost give legitimacy to the Pakistani government in the eyes of the Indian people, seeing how cricket is inextricably tied into South Asia's cultural fabric.

  • AN on December 23, 2008, 16:38 GMT

    Kamran like many others, seems to be living in supreme denial. Irfan Hussain, (DAWN newspaper writer) has highlighted the very serious State failure and complicity with regards to terrorism originating from Pakistan. The civilian government now, still has zero power to change anything. Cricket is a minor matter compared to even a partial restoration of a true civilian Govt. My mother's family is from Karachi and a recent visit was depressing. It is not the poverty, (India has plenty of that too) but the direction that the country has taken at a basic level. The international community is now sending a strong message, and inaction could end a lot more than cricket. Patriotism is now limited to conspiracy theories as to why the country is # 9 on the failed (or failing) States list! Time for some hard self examination, for that bitter medicine could save the nation. It could be the last chance, given the global economic crisis. Going after ICC, BCCI, ECB etc. is just deflection.

  • Faisal on December 23, 2008, 16:34 GMT

    It seems as if the whole world is after Pakistan these days in one way or another. We already lack a film industry, don't take our cricket away from us.

  • Rashid Khan on December 23, 2008, 16:28 GMT

    I like David Furrows comments. It is an excellent opportunity to break the shackles and align with Sri Lanka's Board's approach on ICL banned players. ICC cannot afford to lose both Sri Lanka and Pakistan at the same time and will have to come to terms with this decision. Its high time PCB and SL board show leadership - Pakistan doesn't stand to lose anything and the huge upside is that history will remember that it took a stance in principle. Tha ban on ICL in any case is a monopoly decision taken by BCCI to promote its own interests.

  • John Forster on December 23, 2008, 15:59 GMT

    Kamran, You are splitting hairs. Like much of the Pakistani civilian elite, you show no sympathy for the terror in Mumbai but whine about the loss of Pakistan's cricket status! Let's be very clear: Pakistan is in the dog-house because its problems are seen to be largely self-created. No one sheds tears for a bomb-maker is he blows himself up. India, along with Israel, the US and other countries, get sympathy because they are seen to be victims--and let's not even get started on Kashmir and Palestine. Kashmir as a state has had more elections than all provinces of Pakistan combined and Arab Israelis have more rights and living standards than the free Gazans! Like i said, there is simply no moral equivalency in comparing India and Pakistan.

    The cricket problems in Pakistan are a downstream effect of the political issues. Fix the politics and the cricket will take care of itself.

  • Jose Puliampatta on December 23, 2008, 15:58 GMT

    Haroon Logart is not a security expert as he readily accepts. But one can see clearly why security experts make a big distinction between Indian & Pakistani security scenarios. Mumbai horror was perpetrated by terrorists from another country; whereas Pakistani situation is significantly more dangerous as the sources of terror are from within. It is easier to control a few trouble makers coming from outside; which is not the case with fertile recruiting and breeding grounds from within. Kamran is right in saying that Pak Criketers & Cricket fans love not only Cricket but also peace messages thru Cricket. But he forgets that there are millions of non- cricketers & non- cricket fans in Pakistan (like in any other Cricket playing country; but unlike others, in Pakistan this laege mass includes heavily armed and trained terrorists

  • Shayan on December 23, 2008, 15:58 GMT

    First, a bit off topic. The Pak-SL series gives an opportunity to both boards to give ICL players a chance on their national sides. Since Indian board is not touring Pak, we can allow ICL players to play first class cricket and let them become eligible for the national side. Why bend backwards to the demands of Indian board if they are not able to tour Pak. Remember it goes both ways. They cant expect Pak and SL boards to tag along on every single agenda that suits Indian Cricket Board but when its their turn to show up they ask their Govt to issue a statement.

    Sticking to the topic, Haroon is trying very hard to please BCCI. He remembers very accurately what happened to the last ICC Chairman when he didnt go along with the big bosses.

    Dont really know who is more stupid, Largot for making such statements or cricket lovers who believes that ICC is actually run by ppl who like to promote cricket?

    Most will agree with me that its the later.

  • Bilal on December 23, 2008, 15:55 GMT

    the problem with icc is that they are bowing down to india,because that is where the money is..they dont care about cricket, they just need revenues.australia won't come to pakistan because of security reasons, but while during the IPL season the australian players all said that they will play while there were bombing is the country.this is just hypocritcal and all the players are just after money. cricket doesnt have a governing body that can stand up to countries like australia and india. if none wants to tour pakistan then pakistan should just leave icc and then we will see how cricket does with 4 good cricketing nations. this whole world is full of hypocrites and liars and we are just following in their footsteps.

  • Ven on December 23, 2008, 15:35 GMT

    BCCI cancelled tour to pakistan is supported by a lot of people - for the simple fact that nobody can have a smile watching cricket by sending its players to a land from where terrorists evolve. I think everybody in this world has to agree to that. Pakistan is desperate for cricket and they should pressurerise their govt to act against terror if thay want cricket to florish in their country. I dont think India or BCCI is to be blamed in this regard. I thought Ranatunga is doing good to srilanka cricket - but look what has happened - he got scaked for acting crazy. BCCI is cautious and managing its board and its players very well - I appreciate the fact and support it fully. If others are jealous of it then only gad can help them.

  • Arif Younus on December 23, 2008, 15:30 GMT

    To be honest, this is not a surprise. The ICC has played a BIG part in letting all the "white" countries stay away from pakistan. The recently completed England tour of India shows the "terror and security" are mere excuses 'boringly' used by these countries. More infuriating were comments by Andrew Strauss : We have a duty to cricket , and of all TIM MAY : We have to "save" the subcontinent from isolation . Hello Mr May ??? Pakistan is in the sub-continent too.

    As a pakistani, I have always respected and admired the Sri Lankans (they are by far the most educated and civilised).

    We welcome them and hope to have a cracker with Murli and Mendis against yousuf and younis.

    As for the ICC, BCCI and the rest of the lot... bye bye hypocrites

  • Faisal Munawar on December 23, 2008, 15:25 GMT

    I think it is time that Pakistan takes the ban off from the ICL players and brings them back to domestic and international circuit. If this is Indian diplomacy with Pakistan (Cancellation of tour) then why does PCB have to support BCCI in that sense. PCB must legalize the ICL players and bring them back to the national team.

    Mr. Lorgat, is trying to make sure that Sri Lanka does not tour Pakistan. That is because he wants to please the Indians who are bringing in the most money right now.

    I think enough is enough. Tougher actions are to be taken by PCB. They need to take the ICC to court for their biased actions. They need to file a racial profiling law suite against them and press charges.

    There is no need to play cricket and become part of such an organization which has extreme reservations against you for what your country and your people stand for, therefore, in my opinion Pakistan should boycott all ICC Cricket.

  • Jilani on December 23, 2008, 15:24 GMT

    Has Lorgat finally lost his &^*&8%) mind.

    This is a testament to the inherent bias that the cricket playing nations are showing to Pakistan.

    At least now the cards are on the table. Poor management, greed and corporate commercialization has done this--

    1) West Indies - in tatters. Loss of cricket. 2) Pakistan - Ranked 3rd and 4th recently virtual no-show on international stage. 3) No new test status/caps in the last 8 years to ANY minnows. 4) Test status of Bangladesh in question. ECB doubtful. 5) Test status of Zimbabwe almost no more. 6)2007 world cup a dismal failure 7)Worthy Test cricket narrowed to SAF, AUS, IND & ENG 8) International matches reduced to meager following by few nations. 9) Few generic international stars with short careers-no more Ricky, Sachin, Inzi, Wasim, Lara with long lives, multi discipline, strong technique.

    IS ANYBODY EVEN TAKING A NOTICE.

    SHAME TO ICC. IT IS ABOUT TIME ICC VANISHES. CRICKET WAS BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM-MUCH RICHER

  • Prakash on December 23, 2008, 15:18 GMT

    Kamran, how is it that you even expect an Indian team to visit Pakistan now, if not ever? Not participating in cricketing events do not fuel political tensions - It is actually quite the opposite! And yes, no matter how much you may want to deny it, or shy away from it, kindly remember that our cricket teams represent our country and by not touring Pakistan, India is sending out a message to its "Most favored nation". If you cant read it, too bad!

  • Jose Paul on December 23, 2008, 15:10 GMT

    I agree that India's decision not to tour was political. or is it? But maintainig that the tour has to go on, when the political establishment in Pakistan is not doing anything beyond window dressing and eyewashing is appalling. Please recall that all of the cricketing faternity in India, including the leading voices are against the conduct of the tour.

    Agreed, that currently the so called seperatist elements do not target cricketr's or cricket, but what if they decide to do it. The case point is the massacare of the Israeli's and Europeans they did in the Taj hotel.

    Sri Lanka will tour, they are cash strapped and also comes from a minefield of a country that has been ravaged by fighting for decades. Try asking England, Australia, South Africa, West Indies, New Zeland etc.

    Touring Pakistan couldn't be worse for any Indian now. We have great appreciation for your people, but your contry need to reciprocate and help to nomalize relations first - THE MASSACARES SHOULD STOP FIRST

  • Arif on December 23, 2008, 14:59 GMT

    I second the comments by Athar and David...

  • N. Moorthy on December 23, 2008, 14:54 GMT

    While I agree that the decision is a political one by the Indian government, I disagree with comments that "Perpetrators of atrocities will be encouraged by the political divisions they create". It is just not the attack but the unwillingness of Pakistan government to take steps to erradicate these activities has caused so much heartburn between the two countries.

  • AMIT on December 23, 2008, 14:53 GMT

    I don't why there is such a big furore on a statement made by Lograt regarding security concerns in Pakistan. When teams like Aus,Eng or SA are suppose to travel to Pakistan they would need security clearence from ICC then why should Sri Lanka not need security clearence?? Aren't they humans or should I say that since Sri Lanka is an asian team and there is no threat to their lives. As far India's decision of not touring pakistan is completely RIGHT no matter what pakistanis say as they would not know what we are going through when there were soo many innocent people murdered by 10 pakistani terrorist. Do you think that a series would be possible between the two neighbors?? I would also like to remind my pakistani freinds that it was India which was putting pressure on ICC to make sure that Champions trophy take place in pakistan. Also it was India along with all other asian teams came to pakistan and played Asia Cup when Australia decline tour pakistan.

  • Sandy on December 23, 2008, 14:50 GMT

    Before writing an article, you shud b aware of the ground realities. A tour at this point of time is impossible. Scheduling it 6-12 months later is much wiser option. It is just a matter of fact that it hurting PCB at the wrong point of time.

  • Chinmay Dhopate on December 23, 2008, 14:46 GMT

    There is no way I want India to play Pakistan while they turn blind eye to terrorist atrocities carried out from their soil on Indian cities. Some things are bigger than cricket. There is no way we can pretend everything is alright and carry on playing cricket with Pakistan.

  • IndianMigrant on December 23, 2008, 14:45 GMT

    Pakistan is a nation of the terrorist for the terrorist by the terrorist. So anybody tours that country has think twice, So ICC before sending its umpires should take all precautions

  • StaniArmy on December 23, 2008, 14:45 GMT

    I was wondering where Kamran Abassi & Osman Samiuddin had gone. I was beginning to fear the worst as Pakistanis who are in a position to say something usually disappear trying to be kind & diplomatic or sucking up to the west when faced with a problem. With all the propaganda & filth being let out by the Indian gov & media, someone needs to tell the truth & I don't think the inept & backside kissing PCB or Pak gov is going to.

    Well done Kamran & over to you now Osman

    Excellent point by David Furrows.

    I would go as far as saying that Pakistan should pull their players out of the IPL & fully indorse the ICL. The IPL does not have a more attractive asset than the ICL's Lahore Badshahs. PCB should also help out the newer Nations & minnows more as they have done in the past with Bangladesh & SriLanka & are now doing with China. Who knows, in years we may have a break away world cricketing body, forget a league. Eng, Ind, Aus, S.A, N.Z can carry on playing ach other – good for them.

  • KB on December 23, 2008, 14:38 GMT

    Please Mr.Abbasi, being of South Asian origin yourself, you must understand regardless what the government or BCCI does or think - the game is not bigger than life and at the moment many Indians are hurting more than angry. You expect them to warm up and bond together with the loving power of cricket? What about people's feelings?

    Do you honestly think Indians are going to be waving flags of friendship and celebrating the victory of humanity (read The Game of Cricket).

    Please wake up and realize how the inbred scourge of militancy has now grown into Pakistans roots disrupting the lives of all it's hard working citizens.

    Stop lamenting the loss for the "Game of Cricket" - I'd rather watch Snooker played by two turtles than have an insensitive series such as this.

    PS Just remember when the teams pulled out of the Champions' Trophy, BCCI and Indians stood along with Pakistan - Pakistan cricket fans flaming India seem to forget this.

    regards.

  • Tanvir Ahmed on December 23, 2008, 14:15 GMT

    PCB should lift ban on all pakistani ICL players. Pakistan cricket is suffering due to players leaving for the ICL, and now when BCCI i forced to chancel it's tour of Pakistan, the PCB should take it's players back for the domestic and national selection.

    The PCB supported BCCI in not accepting the ICL, the support should be mutual and that is not the case, so why should PCB suffer on the behalf of BCCI?

  • gazni on December 23, 2008, 14:15 GMT

    Situation in Pakistan is worse and it is the duty of the governing body, i.e. ICC, to make sure that it is safe for any country to tour Pakistan.

  • khansahab->legslip.com on December 23, 2008, 14:09 GMT

    Athar, why do you care so much about Mr Abbasi's photo and what does your comment have to do with Pakistan cricket? Sri Lanka's decision to tour Pakistan is definitely a boost, but today their administration was suspended including Ranatunga and let us hope that doesn't affect SL's tour.

    This security delegation is definitely a setback because it was not needed. As soon as India's refusal to tour came about, Ranatunga without any hesitation suggested sending the SL team to Pakistan. This decision by Lorgat will only add fuel to the fire that is not the fault of the people who are being affected the most by the lack of cricket in Pakistan- the cricketers, fans and other stakeholders.

    Pakistani cricketers should now get the cue, and play cricket very passionately and competitively. This series has appeared as a ray of light amidst the bleakness. It's time to show the ICC and BCCI that Pakistan cricket can survive even without their direct support.

  • Faisal Sami Qadir on December 23, 2008, 13:50 GMT

    Well, very true, Pakistan should now lift the ban over ICL players. Not only will this serve as a slap on BCCI's proud face, but also will help Pakistan to increase thier pool of talented players. But my only worry is that what about players like DANISH KANERIA and Faisal Iqbal, who didnt even played for Pakistan during this period but also were deprived of IPL contracts. This might be a demotivating factor for them and they would feel they were better off playing ICl, if this was to happen. I hope PCB makes a wise decision. I do have an answer to this as well and will write it when something like this happens.

  • Arif M ANsari on December 23, 2008, 13:49 GMT

    In my opinion, ICC is not playing fairly with the situation. This will further disrupt the cricket of Pakistan.

  • Nadu Lal on December 23, 2008, 13:47 GMT

    By now everybody should know that BCCI has hijacked the ICC. Even schedules are worked around to accommodate the IPL. They have become Bhagwan of cricket. Willingly or unwillingly Aus and Eng are bowing to them. Srilanka was looking for the bailout from them. Pakistan pleaded them to play. ICC doesn't have the spine and going with the flow. Mr. Haroon sitting in India announced security inspection in Pakistan for the appeasement of India. Why the security inspections were not done before England came back for the second test? What about the security of the Pakistani official in Mohali test? Not sure what deals were made with England to lure them back for Mohali test. But if it was to say show must go on or defeat terrorists etc. Same logic should be used for Pakistan.

    My only request is PLEASE do not mix sports with politics. If Mr. Haroon doesn't have spine then he should resign.

  • Shehzad Khan on December 23, 2008, 13:46 GMT

    ICC monkeys want to poke their noses into everything.

    I think both the SLC & PCB should tell them to stay away from this bilateral series which has nothing to do with their so called FTP.

    In fact, the series can be officiated with local umpires or a set of Pak-SL umpires. We don't want any jokers from ICC certifying our security situation any longer.

  • Pradeep on December 23, 2008, 13:44 GMT

    You make a few good points in your article. However, these comments do not take into account the gravity of the events that have unfolded, the international perception of Pakistan as a terror haven that is unsafe for normal life and the relative unimportance of cricket in the scheme of things. I find it interesting and sometimes frustrating that the cricket writers suffer from the same blindness that the Pakistani government suffers.

  • Sanjay Agarwal on December 23, 2008, 13:40 GMT

    Sports should be the last thing on our minds when so many people have lost their lives to senseless violence. When statements regularly appear in the media of both countries pointing out to eminent war, the effort should be towards healing the wounds and not for holding a highly emotive cricket contest where failure is not an option for either side.

    I think the Indian government made the right decision.

  • Zaheer Ahmed on December 23, 2008, 13:34 GMT

    Haroon Logart has played an excellent guest in India when he shocked the cricketing world that Sri Lanka's hurridely arranged tour of Pakistan is still not on till the time ICC gives security clearance to the officials.

    I wonder what if the so-called security experts appointed by ICC (those who can differentiate between bombs exploding in India and in Pakistan) still consider Pakistan to be a dangerous place to visit (for some nationals I must add) and the series is then officiated by umpires from Pakistan & Sri Lanka. I am sure Haroon Logart would rank this as an un-official series.

  • Haneef Mohamed on December 23, 2008, 13:30 GMT

    You are very correct. The ICC and company are in double standards with regards to Pakistan Cricket for sure. Surprised that PCB is still supporting BCCI and also justifying Haroon Logards comments yesterday. PCB is very smart and strong in implementing their rules and fighting against their own cricketers (ICL & Shoib Akthar etc). PCB's determination has to act now against ICC or BCCI or whomever against our normal cricket activities. I asses this move by ICC & Lorgard as very unfair.

    Hope and trust PCB for useful Action to bring Pakistan Cricket alive.

  • desiman on December 23, 2008, 13:15 GMT

    ICC is a mess, BCCI is a trashcan...whatever. But when a team from a country kill people in neighbouring country, that country does not deserve any visit from a sports team. Period!

  • ALI on December 23, 2008, 13:06 GMT

    I think Srilanka will not be coming to play pakistan..ICC will interfere with the reason of security...I think pakistan cricket is now history..!!!!

  • kamran khan on December 23, 2008, 13:05 GMT

    ICC is run by BCCI I think.............

  • Rahul Sahgal on December 23, 2008, 12:59 GMT

    I agree with Mr Abbasi - India's decision to cancel the tour to Pakistan is certainly a political one. It is not driven primarily by safety concerns. However as a person of Indian origin, I agree wholeheartedly with the decision, even though I love watching international cricket.

    It has become clear that the Pakistani government is simply waiting for international pressure to fade with time, without doing anything substantial. The decades long "policy of denial" remains unchanged. To tour Pakistan would send the message that it was business as usual. Well, it isn't business as usual for India. Tackling terrorism is far more important that cricket, and India should use all means at its disposal to highlight the fact that terrorism is being used as an instrument of state policy in Pakistan.

    And Mr Abbasi - there are no double standards here: India is a victim of terrosrism while Pakistan is the nursery and hub of world terrorism. The two situations are completely different.

  • Krish on December 23, 2008, 12:58 GMT

    The fundamental difference between Indian and Pakistani security scenarios is that Pakistan is a victim as well as a perpetrator, while India is just a victim. It is obvious who the world would like to sympathise with and who the world would want to shun. You can't act like an innocent when you protect your non-state actors who don't act out but commit real heinous crimes on Indian territory. Make no mistake, this time Pakistan is going to pay for its misdemeanors. Pakistan can't send mass murders to India and expect India to send Tendulkar and Dhoni in return to play cricket in Pakistan.

  • ganesh on December 23, 2008, 12:54 GMT

    Its better off playing in iraq than playing in PAK. Use ur heads.... No sane man would go there, let along play

  • S T on December 23, 2008, 12:49 GMT

    I think that parochial commentary should be eschewed. Clearly human lives and international peace are far more important than the commercial spin off being targeted through the business of cricket. While you are making this issue appear to be a 'incorrect & political' where have you urged moderate opinion and the need for co-operation to get the terrorists to justice? Journalists such as yourselves have a very significant role to play in securing lawful restoration of order and peace. Cricket and money will follow naturally!

  • Nabeel Siddiqui on December 23, 2008, 12:49 GMT

    I think BCCI would be a more suitable word instead of ICC. It is controlling the whole world cricket. How come ICC forgot about the security of its officials in the India-England Test Series just after the blasts, which took place in the hotels in which cricketers were going to stay in the next 24 hours. I think the BCCI now want to weaken the PCB. I bet they would even insist cricket Australia to cancel their tour of Pakistan in April because IPL is scheduled during that period. PCB should strive for other allies rather than depending on BCCI, as in the past this has happened.

  • naveed on December 23, 2008, 12:40 GMT

    In recent years, ICC has repeatedly succumbed to Indian pressure on some key issues and this happens to be the same. However in an effort to 'satisfy' indians by depriving pakistan of international cricket, ICC is making a bad mistake which would have a negative impact on the future of cricket in subcontinent.

  • Ghafoor on December 23, 2008, 12:37 GMT

    One word describe this "double standards" at its very best. We need someone fairer at ICC helm, Mr Lorgat's comments were an insult to the nation that takes pride on the criketing field. This statement and action taken by ICC shows that, how it has been hijacked by some of the more wealthier boards. ICC needs to act responsibly and more fairly. I fear ICC becoming UN of cricket, ineffective and only good for those with power and money.

  • Raja on December 23, 2008, 12:35 GMT

    ICC is responsible for the destruction of cricket in South Asia.Now ICC is directly becoming a party against Pakistan in the wake of current poiltical conflict between the two neighbours.ICC is losing its credibility which is a very dangerous situation.ICC officials issued the statement to spoil the Sri lankan tour while they were sitting in India.This biased attitude of ICC has to be stopped.

  • Dave Bird on December 23, 2008, 12:33 GMT

    I am sorry to say but this clearly reflect the double standard of ICC as Pakistan is currently the only muslim cricket country (except Bangladesh)and the discrimination can clearly be seen in Logarts statement. Also now if Srilinka is willing to tour Pakistan they come out with the security issues of umpires and match referee. The terrorist activity was carried out in India and the teams are cancelling the tours of Pakistan and very happy to play in India

    Mr Lorgart is saying they are two different countires, yes they are, so why on earth are teams touring India when bomb blasts are occuring and Pakistan is the victim of cancellation of tours.

    I will tell the reason as IPL is offering lucrative amount of money does not matter what happen in India every team and official will go there......simple is that...

  • Gugu Khan on December 23, 2008, 12:25 GMT

    Snub BCCI and make Lorgat murgha outside minar-e-Pakistan. PLEASE!

  • Vishal Patel on December 23, 2008, 12:19 GMT

    I'm sorry but you cannot sweep cricket away from politics when we are talking about India and Pakistan - it is a national sport. Why should the Indian government agree to send its players to Pakistan, when the Pakistani government plays a game of denial and has given no help in bringing the culprits of the Mumbai bombings to justice, other than making token statements and refusing to accept the legitimacy of British, American and Indian intelligence pointing to Pakistani-based terrorists? It may be in the terrorists interests to stall Indo-Pak relations but India should not lend a helping hand to Pakistan when there has been such an appaling response from the Pakistani government.

  • Aditya Mookerjee on December 23, 2008, 12:17 GMT

    Perhaps, politics and sports should not mix, but then, the situation is not very congenial. The reason for the resumption of cricketing ties, was to improve relations between the two nations. Hopefully, relations will better, but to expect cricketing ties to do the needful, is a very distant aspiration. The governments of India and Pakistan are expected to be proactive in resolving the present situation, and playing cricket, is not in the manner of proceedings, perhaps. The playing of cricket will disperse from the current scenario. What if the situation worsens, when Pakistan and India are involved in a cricket tour, either in India, or in Pakistan? The two nations were planning on a successful tour, when the Mumbai incident happened.

  • Danish Ahmed on December 23, 2008, 12:16 GMT

    Mr Haroon lorgat has made a shocking comment and every Pakistani should protest, including PCB. But having said that I know Pakistani's have forgotten how to protest, they will bear all the pain and agony and will say nothing to this injustice.

  • srinivas ch on December 23, 2008, 12:15 GMT

    "Perpetrators of atrocities will be encouraged by the political divisions they create. Disharmony and conflict sustain them."

    Well if the establishment itself is perpetrating the atrocities, it is better to snap ties rather than playing cricket and sending money to their coffers. You can not beat with one hand and expect to shake with other hand.

  • Mohammad Rafi on December 23, 2008, 12:07 GMT

    ICC must provide full support to Pakistan to host this series. Ban on the ICL players must be lifted as it is Pakistan cricket that is suffering and so much talented cricketers are unable to find their place in the team due to the wrong policites of PCB

  • Azizuddin on December 23, 2008, 11:58 GMT

    "The decision is a political one, and one I believe to be incorrect"

    India has cancelled the tour of Pakistan not because of political reasons, but because Pakistan is not cooporating with Indian intelligence and Government over the terrorist. Everyone knows that those terrorists were from Pakistan, but instead of cooperating with Indian Government, Pakistan Government is denying that those terrorist aren't from Pakistan. Pakistan Government is responsible for all cancellation of tours in past 12 months. Government of Pakistan must capture all those dangerous terrorist and hang them up.

  • javed on December 23, 2008, 11:56 GMT

    Mr. loghart with his comments about sending an independent security mission to pakistan is trying to please BCCI to get a good job and contract from them once he out of ICC. It is so simple, ICC wants to isolate pakistan as much as possible on the so called security fears. Where is common sense to say that security perspectives are different in both countries. 10 or so perpertrators were playing with the whole city for two to three days and ICC consider it more safe than Pakistan.

  • Haiman Basher on December 23, 2008, 11:52 GMT

    Kamran, There are no double standards.Bomb explosions and terrorist strikes take place very often in Sri Lanka and India too.But there is a crucial difference.

    In Pakistan, your entire civil society - including the elite, media and the man on the street - hates people from countries like US,UK,and Australia. Of course, India has always been on that list.

    But it is not the case with other countries. Civil society in Sri Lanka and India love all foreigners, including Pakistanis. That's why Pakistani's are keen to visit India - one hears a team of 11 recently has gone to India on a boat - while Indians and other white people are scared to visit your country. People like to go where they feel they are welcomed. Simple. There are no double standards here !

  • Atif on December 23, 2008, 11:48 GMT

    Its safe to say that the 'spirit of the game' is dead and buried. It has been replaced by money, politics and double standards of which ICC is a major contributor followed by greedy board of India and hypocrite boards of England, Australia and Newzealand.

    So what should pakistan do in this situation? Firstly PCB must stand up and say 'NO' to neutral venues and should strengthen the domestic cricket circuit by bringing inovations for e.g. PPL.

    Both PCB and pakistani cricket team, should realise that only way out of this mess is to show the world their cricketing prowess which can only be achieved by winning matches. Therefore the players, board, coach etc all should give everything to this srilankan tour. Once they win matches and thrash the teams coming their way, the world would realise what they are missing.

  • Zeshan Ali on December 23, 2008, 11:37 GMT

    Could someone please post a link to the original statment from Lorgat? thatks guys

  • SO_SO_FABULOUS on December 23, 2008, 11:35 GMT

    this is not the first time haroon logart has come out with something against pakistan...this guy is a complete joke, and ive had enough of him. only if i see him on streets of london...grrrrrrrr

  • Imtiaz on December 23, 2008, 11:25 GMT

    Is this security inspection reference at this critical stage for Pakistan cricket another testimony to the influence of India at the ICC? Just wondering... given Indian attitude towards Pakistan in the last few days, I would not be surprised if India does not like the fact that Sri Lanka has agreed to be a replacement for India.

  • Suhas Haneef on December 23, 2008, 11:24 GMT

    The problem is, most of the cricketing nations nations believe that Pakistan is the force behind Mumbai attack. That led the cricketing nations to show double standards in its treatment to pakistan.

  • Saqib Abbasi on December 23, 2008, 11:18 GMT

    Icc chief recent comments are nothing but its biased views....if england can tour INDIA then y cant srilanka can tour PAK.. there is no diff in security in both india and pak. this is just rubbish by a rubbish org..ICC

  • K Naresh Kumar on December 23, 2008, 11:11 GMT

    The supposedly 'peace-loving' approach of the Pakistani media, be it in the political field or in sports is slightly off putting to say the least. While their right to criticise India for not having gone ahead with the Pakistan tour is acceptable, the fact that India has finally seen the continuous damage to its big-brother, adjusting status by double-timing neighbours cannot be missed. We are a billion-plus, cricket-loving country and numbers do count. Too bad if small kids round the park throw pebbles at the elephant!

    I think terror-ravaged neighbours of India have finally got their chance to huddle together and try and upstage the 'audacious' bully that India and BCCI are supposed to be. We have often seen that till challenged to the extreme, from time immemorial, Indians have been status quo lovers. Go ahead and do us a favour, fellow Asian neighbours. Let us change the rules forever once again! Till then BCCI zindabad! No more tours to hostile countries!

  • Mohamed on December 23, 2008, 11:10 GMT

    I think Money speaks more than anything else. England would have never played cricket anywhere else had a blast such as Mumbai had occurred anywhere other than in India. The players know that if they refuse to tour now citing security reasons then they wouldn't get selected for IPL

  • taj on December 23, 2008, 11:10 GMT

    Cancelling the tour to pakistan shows the nature of Indian and PCB need to not support ICCB any more. cancelling tour may not kill cricket on pakistan but may help to undersand future better.

  • Amar Nath Mehta on December 23, 2008, 11:09 GMT

    It's a biased comment from Kamran. Not sensible. Situation in Pakistan is horrible for any sporting activity. If entire world has issued advisories to its citizens to not to travel Pakistan then how come ICC be blamed for thinking about its officials.

  • taj on December 23, 2008, 11:08 GMT

    Cancelling the tour to pakistan shows the nature of Indian and PCB need to not support ICCB any more. cancelling tour may not kill cricket on pakistan but may help to undersand future better.

  • Try Introspecting on December 23, 2008, 11:05 GMT

    Pakistan and pakistan cricket would be better off introspecting for once rather than blaming everybody for the wrongs done against the country and the cricket. It is plain simple economics, cricket or otherwise. BCCI was never king of ICC to start with but now has devloped itself to be a financial source and cricket or otherwise, its all about business.

    May be BCCI will not be the same ever again and then it will be somebody else who will dictate terms. Pakistan cricket and otherwise would be better off served working on and developing itself into a position when teams and countries find it feasiable and profitable to work with them. Currently, pakistan team is not a worthy opposition to any good team and neither is Pakistan board or Pakistan a lucrative enough venue for somebody to risk their lives. India is dangerous, but then there are financial returns. Its all about money Honey.

    Change yourself than crib eternally.

  • Abhinav on December 23, 2008, 11:04 GMT

    Kamran, Unlike the 'non state' actors so rampantly out of control of the democratically elected government in Pakistan, the Indian team is very much made up of 'state' subjects. Let me assure you, it was'nt just the BCCI and it was'nt also just the Indian cricket team that did not wish to tour Pakistan, but an entire nation which is affronted by the acts of war on Indian territory.

    The Indian public completely supports the decision of not going ahead with the tour.

    Time to start getting the harvest of what has been sown over the years.

  • sajid shah on December 23, 2008, 10:56 GMT

    Proven again, ICC has double standerds.

  • Adnan Siddiqui on December 23, 2008, 10:50 GMT

    I am stunned to hear the remarks of the ICC. Instead to support Pakistan, ICC just only discouraging the cricket in Pakistan. The daamage ICC is making to International cricket under the influence of BCCI is very disappointing.

  • Ahmed Zulfiqar on December 23, 2008, 10:49 GMT

    The PCB should make an official complaint to the ICC. Why was Mr. Lorgat announcing the "security assessment" in the media before informing PCB officials? It is an open secret that the ICC is the lapdog of the BCCI, but this is taking it too far.

  • Ashraf uz Zaman on December 23, 2008, 10:43 GMT

    Its time PCB should move out of ICC and work with Middle East countries to start a new Cricket Governing Body with funds from Arab Countries. They can make their headquarter at Dubai and can encourage countries from all over the world to participate with good sponsors and big prizes.

  • saad on December 23, 2008, 10:37 GMT

    "I want to play in the IPL" (Shoaib Malik)

    With much disgust and utter disappointment, I rest my case.

  • vikram on December 23, 2008, 10:33 GMT

    By constantly blaming india for faiure to visit pakistan, you are merely making a mockery of vast indian population who wish that this is not a right time to vist Pakistan, when elements from that contry are actively involved in terrorism againsts india, and it has been used as a legitimate tool to persue the hiddon antindian policies by that country. Shame on you Mr.Abbasi. You have shown that vast majority of you have no respect for the indian population. i, as a follower of indian cricket has no desire to watch any cricket match between pakistan and india. It is time for you to do some hard introspection and stop the comming on a antinian platform which is borene out of jealoucy rather than true cricket spirit.

  • Sajid on December 23, 2008, 10:30 GMT

    I couldnt agree more with the comments of David Furrows. The BCCI has has become the unofficial ruler of international cricket in the last couple of years. In contrast the ICC has become a weak meaningless body being dictated to by the BCCI. The current ban on players playing for their countries and the ICL is a redicouls situation and I cant believe international sides are simply complying at their own expense. We have seen New Zealand loose the likes of Shane Bond, Pakistan now have lost Yousaf and Bangladesh have lost half their team. David Furrows is right the PCB and the Sri Lankan cricket board should make a stand against it.

    Going back to the original point on the double standards of the ICC towards Pakistan- it seams they seem to be very much in favour of stoping Pakistan playing any form of cricket at home. Im sure Aleem Dar and Asad Rauf would have no problem going to Pakistan so their shouldnt be any problems getting umpires!

  • Ram on December 23, 2008, 10:23 GMT

    I dint understood on which point you wrote this Article. Is it ICC dont have the right to inspect the pakistan for the Srilanka tour? dont they have right to take care of the cricket playing nations? if they dont have then why they removed the cricket plying rights for the SothAfrica in Inernational level?

    And about India, You said it's incorrect to cancel the tour to Pak. How it can be correct when one team from pakistan has come to India and put Bombs and still How can India send a team to Pak for playing cricket.

  • Kyza Smirnoff on December 23, 2008, 10:22 GMT

    I would like to say that Indian cricket has never really been a fan of Pakistani cricket at any time, and to my knowledge they are not so the friendly neighbours nor have they ever stood by us and helped us in any way. It really is such a shame that a huge country like India who shares mosts cultures and traditions with Pakistan is so far from Pakistan and we are so very divided. In recent years we have come together a lot more and this is due to cricket. Pakistan have also suffered hugely due to terrorits the marriott hotel and also the murder of Benazir Bhutto, the list is endless, we are also victims and we need friends of ours to show us solidarity and togetherness but India rather see us wiped out!!! real dissapiontment in our friends. but thats the way life is, thankyou to Sri Lanka for thier loyalty. ICC now want to send a security team to pakistan, whay now have they thought of this, please leave Pakistan alone, your not helping us. Please India show us some loyalty.

  • Bari on December 23, 2008, 10:18 GMT

    In recent years Pakistan tried only one policy and that was to say yes to BCCI no matter what but it failed quite badly. It is very clear that because of money BCCI is bullying ICC, ECB & Australian Board. It is just a matter of time when India will be alone again and would need Pakistan's vote in ICC.

  • Kashif Aziz on December 23, 2008, 10:10 GMT

    I agree with Kamran Bhai's comments fully. I think it is time for Pakistan to stop cowering and wandering arround with a begging bowl. Beggars get trodden on and walked all over. Thats exactly what is happening to Pakistan cricket. There are a few steps which Pakistan must take to help ourselves as its obvious nobody else will do so.

    1. Remove this ludicrous ban on ICL players as we need our bench strength back. There is no reason to ban these players who just want to earn a living. Remember Pakistan did not play a single test for 1 year so what to these guys do.

    2. Get Pakistani companies to set up a PPL franchise along the lines of IPL to offer cash to players, mainly our own who DESERVE it and to see if money talks with overseas players.

    3. Consider neutral venues if requireed but we must play cricket otherwise we will fade away.

    Lets come out of our dream world and stop begging, history doesn't favour beggars if favours those who make their own destiny

  • adnan on December 23, 2008, 10:04 GMT

    It seems that Mr.Haroon was influenced by Indian lobby who after rufusing to come to Pakistan wants to create problems for Pakistan so that no team visit here. This is shameful act from Indian lobby and ICC. ICC should not take any pressure from any financial power but to act like a body who is independent. Looks like India will but ICC also in the future.

    I think Indians should also act responsible. since they have found new money and power they are bullying other nations. They are acting like Wanabies.

  • Akmal on December 23, 2008, 10:03 GMT

    The Sri Lankan cricket authorities should be commended for comming to the help of Pakistan in their hour of need.It will be a great series and pakistan should applaud the sri lankan authorities and the players who are not cry baibies like some other teams.

  • SAM on December 23, 2008, 10:02 GMT

    I could never understand why PCB was always a bunny of BBCI, some Indians would say BCCI helped Pakistan but the truth is BBCI never ever helped Pakistan cricket, now some Indians would give the example of Asia Cup but again here is the truth, India visited Pak for two reasons; First they thought they would be the Asian champions LOL they failed, second they knew if they refuse to visit Pak then Pakistan will also refuse in the next Asia Cup in India, lol without India or Pakistan so called Asia CUP story will be over. lol

    I hope PCB must learn from its mistakes and stop voting for power hungry BBCI.

    I think PCB should always go with ECB, CA, NZ and SA block in all ICC decisions.

  • Ashher Siddiqui on December 23, 2008, 9:58 GMT

    I am shocked by Haroon Logart's comments. Pakistani Umpire Asad Rauf is officiating matches in India after the mayhem. ICC did not do anything to beef up his security. Trully ICC is blackmailed by BCCI and Pakistan is the victim.

  • zee khan on December 23, 2008, 9:56 GMT

    weldone! Haroon Lorgat try your best to stop srilanka touring pakistan. because you are enjoying hospitalities in india and you should have to do some work for bcci,and yes we know how much bcci can pay for it.

  • vikas on December 23, 2008, 9:56 GMT

    Kamran, I have always respected your views on matters related to cricket. However, allow me to disagree for a at least this one time.

    While I agree that people to people contact has helped us to heal past wounds and build better relationships. Snapping cricketing ties, diplomatic relations, etc. is always counterproductive. But from an Indian perspective do try to understand that the latest wounds are a different category all together. When bombs were going off in my neighborhood in Delhi it did not bother so much. India needs time to recover from the latest shock. This is not the time to pretend it is business as usual. At least not too many people here feel that way.

    ICC saying or not saying anything about Pakistan is immaterial. What matters is where Pakistan is headed. Cricket, after all, is a very trivial matter. Putting food on table, safety and security are all more important things.

    Agree with David Furrows above. ICL should be recognized.

    And, yes, change your photo.

  • Dhaval on December 23, 2008, 9:54 GMT

    India vs Pak was certainly an awaited event. Fans from both the sides were gearing up for it. But I have no surprises that India had called off the tour. Things are too sour between the two nations(to put it mildly).

    India has always been open for friendship. But if you all can remember MAY 1991 they shook our hands on one side and then ... well u know the Kargil War.

    Hence India is taking the current stand. Because time and again India has been on suffering side... as Pak continues to be in deinal mode.

    Lets admit the fact that Pakistan is been funding and sheltering the terror factory. Eg. LeT, Dawood company, Harkat-ul Mujahideen and many more... but still Pak is in denial mode.

    Under these conditions... how do u expect India to go for the tour.

  • zafar on December 23, 2008, 9:51 GMT

    I have two words which I am sad to say. DOUBLE STANDARD. I think next thing ICC will think they want to do is security inspection for Pakistan's own players. Then try to check Pak cricketers and investigate them for any terrorism record when they travelling abroad. Shame on this bias world. How quickly they went out of their way to send England to India, that was resolved within days. For me they are doing good job for terrorists,that is what those scum of earth wants and that is what they are giving them. Shame shame shame. I am really bitter about this. Why world bodies and Journalists and world media don't point this out, why there is no justice in this world?

  • Zafar Qidwai on December 23, 2008, 9:41 GMT

    I agree with David, he has got a point. As far as ICC is concerned, I think it is BCCI who is after IPL is more powerful to dictate terms than the all other members combined. ICC could have said that the match refree and umpires who are willing to go to Pakistan, will be sent to supervise the series, and there are as Simon Toffel had shown his willingness to officiate in the postponed chapmions trophy. I think it is the time for the PCB official to wake up and pull themselves away from the influence of BCCI, which on ICL issue has receieved full cooperation from PCB and now in return has denied to do so.

  • Ramesh on December 23, 2008, 9:37 GMT

    Kamran, India is a democracy and not a theocracy like Pakistan. The people of this country do not want any ties with Pakistan, for the appalling terror that has been perpetrated. You and your ilk may want to create as much smokescreen as you like about the urgent need to restore cricketing relations. That can wait till Pakistan can commend itself to be part of the comity of civilized nations.

    Your berating the Indian Board for a decision taken by Haroon Lorgat is neither here nor there. It will be many aeons before Pakistan can match the commercial power of BCCI, and till then you have to play second fiddle. If you do not want to, then get good cricketers and not drug addicts on the field.

  • najeeb on December 23, 2008, 9:30 GMT

    I wonder if India agreed to tour Pakistan, will Haroon insist that he need to seek the advise of his so called security experts. Mr Haroon, if India does not wish to tour Pakistan then its their business - at least let Sri Lanka tour Pakistan. We, Sri Lankans are not scared or runaway from bombs. Pakistan has been deprived of international cricket - now is the time we Sri Lankans like to help them. We play cricket and not politics.

  • Shehzaad Nakhoda on December 23, 2008, 9:22 GMT

    I don't remember Mr. Lorgat suggesting a security assessment for "officials" for the India-England tour. After all, the officials for that series include Pakistani umpire Asad Rauf. Of course, Asad himself expressed no reservations about traveling to India. But, this ridiculous stand by Haroon Lorgat makes it difficult for Pakistani fans to keep their head straight about the ICC, even those who don't like staying away from theories of conspiracy and systemic bias.

  • Venkatanarayanan K on December 23, 2008, 9:18 GMT

    India is not a cauldron of explosions that Pakistan is. So ICC was spot on in recommending England's tour to India inspite of the blasts.

    On the other hand, considering that Pakistan is full of extremist elements who when having some time to spare between battling US & NATO at the Afghan front, subverting peace on the Indian front, keep blasting their own people.

    I can't understand why Sri Lankan board is so eager to put its players in the way of harm. I hope that nothing happens to Sri Lankan team.

    I think it will be wiser to ban Pakistan from International cricket for the next few years.

  • Swami on December 23, 2008, 9:10 GMT

    ICC is not separate from its member countries and its absurd to suggest that it must stand up to member contries. ICC operates at the pleasure of its member countries. The decision to play or not to play in pakistan is not just a political one, but one that is deeply unpopular amongst Indian fans, commentators and even the players. The senior Indian players have privately clearly mentioned to the board that they are unwilling to tour Pakistan under the current circumstances. Pakistan must introspect as to why it has landed in such state of affairs.

  • shoaib on December 23, 2008, 9:10 GMT

    I fully agree with Mr. David Furrows.. It might seem tit for tat, but PCB needs to stand up and be counted.

  • Stelle on December 23, 2008, 9:01 GMT

    As a fellow Safrican I am SO dissapointed at Lorgat's words...And a word on David Furrows' last sentence...The whole cricketing WORLD needs to stop lying down before the BCCI, roll over and have their collective tummies scratched.

    I lost any respect I had for the ICC 2 World Cups ago. They havent done anything since then to convince me otherwise.

  • Irfan Ul Haq on December 23, 2008, 8:58 GMT

    The ICC is a dead Organization, Infact BCCI is running the cricket world. I hope, that after BCCI denied to send their team to Pakistan, Pakistan cricket board must allow ICL players to play for Pakiatan team.

  • Ind-Pak Cric Plz on December 23, 2008, 8:57 GMT

    Very damaging and hypo-critical comments by Haroon Lorgat! Now, we know from where his paycheck is coming! I stay at Dubai and I know that except Karachi, all the pakistani cities are safe to play. PCB should atleast allow it's ICL recruits to play in PCB-run matches. Lalit Modi is out to further his own business interests. How can a tournament like IPL can sabotage the series between England and Sri Lanka. We want to see India-Pak and Eng-SL in action, not the city based teams playing with few local players. This money juggernaut on cricket should end.

  • raj on December 23, 2008, 8:57 GMT

    Saw a lot of BCCI bashing again. What i think everybody needs to understand is that other cricketing boards have banned icl player because it's an unrecognised tournament. Although i don't always agree with what BCCI does, in this respect i don't think any other board would have done any thing different. After all ICL came into existence because ZEE didn't get Braodcasting rights. With regards to India touring pakistan i myself was looking forward to the series but after the tragic mumbai incident, i don't see any reason why india should.It all look so good in words and in chit chat that we want to be good friends, but in all sincerity it all looks hollow when it is not followed in action. Pakistan has promised so many things but delivered on none. Afghanistan Indian embassy bombing was followed by Mumbai, to which Pakistan just turned a blind eye. Even if India gives Pakistan government benefit of doubts, the steps they have taken have not been good enough(which would hv helped).

  • Shehzad Ghani on December 23, 2008, 8:56 GMT

    I seriously think that it is a planned strategy by ICC to isolate Pakistan in world cricket. In this is has the helping hand of two most powerful nations in cricket, Australia and India. God knows whos behing this.

  • maqsood khan on December 23, 2008, 8:54 GMT

    double standard taekn by ICC, which is not surprising, as all along this body has shown , it does not have any back bone and the present outfits are the stoogy of the powerful nation who controls this organisation. This is a dangerous precident & must be stopped immidiately otherwise the world cricket can not prosper nor it can reach out to comman people, as its has become a monopoly for certain indivisual who control this independent authority. Pakistan should re-think again on its ICL stance.

  • Faisal on December 23, 2008, 8:49 GMT

    This clearly shows the double standards ICC have, I suspect that ICC security delegation will come, inspect the ground, will make a few positive statements. Once they reach back to dubai, the decision would come out that "Security team is not satisfied & we cannot send our officals to Pakistan". purpose behind this is to convince that Pakistan is not a safe place for cricket & cricketers" and for sure ICC have the backing of ACB, ECB & rest including BCCI. Bottom line is to Isolate Pakistan in cricketing world! thanks cricinfo to provide a forum to express our concerns. faisal sharafat Kuwait

  • Bala on December 23, 2008, 8:45 GMT

    Cricket fraternity in pakistan do not want to see what is there to be seen. The tour call off was a Govt decision and BCCI can do nothing about it. Will PCB defy any such a ban imposed on them. To comment that the govt ban as incorrect or unwarranted is not in the domain of cricket commentators and players. The Govt see a far wider and greater picture beyond the cricket ground and when both the Govts are engaged in a word battle, which may emerge as a (wish not to) gun battle, talking of cricket between them lacks sense. Withdrawing now is better option than committing now and later make a pull out leaving PCB no choice to invite anybody else. This withdrawal by BCCI had given an opportunity to plan with SCB. See it that way.

  • Adeel Azhar on December 23, 2008, 8:44 GMT

    Agree with David... Pakistan and SL must bring in players from ICL in their squads for the series... Enough of India's bullying in the cricket world based on its fake and temporary dollars... distant thinking but Pakistan, SL and Bangladesh can form a block against indian domination in world and international cricket..

  • Soumya on December 23, 2008, 7:19 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, while I can understand your feelings, given your country of origin, I cannot, but deplore the myopic view in which you, like Imran Khan, have projected India's cancellation of the Pakistan tour (I am assuming that you are quite unaware of your government's inability to reign in the army's 'role' with the terror organizations). Allow me to explain - Cancellation of the tour is just one of the small ways in which we are trying to communicate to certain deaf ears across the border to crack down on the terrorist outfits. You are right when you say that disharmony sustains these perpetrators. Now, how about writing a post urging your govt./army to ban them (for a change, doing it actually) so that we may have a good game of cricket?

  • Pranav on December 23, 2008, 7:18 GMT

    I truely belive this is time for PCB to go and pick ICL player and show that they cant be rule by BCCI. I am Indian fan and support ICL player. Nothing more and Nothing less

  • Amchisty on December 23, 2008, 7:16 GMT

    Indeed it is double standard on part of ICC and it is seen clearly by every sane soul on this earth. Mr. Logart, people like you and Mr. M Speed have taken it like family business and acting in the same maner as how you run your family through your kitchen, the only thing here is its the power block instead of ur wife.

    What makes oyu give statement about the security of the umpires and other staff, common accept the assurance that are given by the Govet of pakistan and PCB, or is it that they need to warm your pockets and i am sure u do accept otherwise u and the bunch of jokers who are in the organizaion wouldnt ahve travlled to Chennai and forced ECB to send its team.

    It does make sense inst it

  • Venaru on December 23, 2008, 7:16 GMT

    This is to inform that india is in the same side along with pakistan , when the debate about champions trophy as been taken in ICC meeting. If you say that it is not worth of praise then india should not be blamed for cancelling this tour.

  • Kashir on December 23, 2008, 7:15 GMT

    Pakistani players should withdraw themselves from participating in any upcoming ICL and IPL competitions in the protest of India not touring to Pakistan. That is the least we can show as a protest as a nation.

  • Rao on December 23, 2008, 7:14 GMT

    Well, you are absolutely right in stating that the political divisions strenghten the hands of perpetrators of terrorism. However pls understand that India and Indian public will support continuing people interaction and cricleting and cultural ties, if enough credibility is built by the Pakistan government by demonstrating that they are on the same side of fighting terror. As long as the elected government is in denial mode and is unwilling to cooperate in a positive manner any continuation of cultural ties will strengthen terrorist idealogy in Pakistan further by giving them a tacit state support.

  • shoeb on December 23, 2008, 7:12 GMT

    Yeah cricket is not like football which is loved all over the world. Yes cricket is there is there and present and popular in UK, AUSTRALIA, INDIA, PAKISTAN etc and it is growing through the twenty20 leagues. This doesnt mean that the icc doesnt has any powers. I think icc should encourage pakistan is a home place to play cricket where definitely never cricketers are targeted. Hopefully icc and the other playing nations understand it.

  • David Furrows on December 23, 2008, 6:41 GMT

    The Pakistan v Sri Lanka tour actually serves a far more important purpose: it is the opportunity for the PCB and Sri Lankan authorities to agree to select ICL players and to break the current BCCI-dictated restraint of trade forever.

    Pakistan will not get a better opportunity with a more willing opponent, and so this series should go ahead even if it has to be in the UAE.

    The ICC has limply followed the BCCI on the issue of the rebel Indian leagues, so Pakistan and Sri Lanka - both of whom have recently been dudded by the Indians - now have the opportunity to provide some leadership.

    By all means say that Yousuf et al can't have central contracts and play in the ICL. But why shouldn't they be paid to represent their country on a match by match basis?

    In 1995 the West Indies dropped Des Haynes against Australia for similar reasons, and lost their world crown. The PCB needs to stop lying down deferentially before a BCCI which has just cancelled a tour of Pakistan.

  • Haider on December 23, 2008, 6:39 GMT

    I am shocked by the initial comments of Mr Haroon Lorgat. If ICC cannot or is not capable of helping then atleast it should not play the role of a spoiler. Also it is no brainer to judge the extreme bias that ICC has developed against Pakistan especially when you compare it with the way they went out of the way to cajole England for touring India in much worse circumstances.

  • athar on December 23, 2008, 6:17 GMT

    Kamran, please change your photo.

  • Mikso Mocha on December 23, 2008, 5:12 GMT

    UK/USA/Aus/SA and even UN have put Pakistan on the list of countries where it advises "Do not visit unless unavoidable". Now even ICC had endorsed the fact by its security assesment. UN USA have come close to declaring Pakistan a t-state. Come on guys so many people cant be wrong at same time bor is it that Pakistan is like some valuable oil rich or resource rich country for so many countries to malign Pakistans reputation at same time.....Fact is and its evident from world response that trusting Pakistan is not easy because so called non-state actors exist in a sizeable quantity and no country wants to risk their ctizens in such a ocuntry. People of Pakistan have to suffer ....but then only people of Pakistan can bring about the change in their own country by standing up ....but all we see is people of pakistan blaming everybody else for their own misery and live in self denial..and this is just the beginning of misery and boycotts which will follow over years if things dont change

  • Matthew on December 23, 2008, 4:57 GMT

    Nothing wrong with Indian decsion. It is perfect political pressure on a state which in self denial about activities on its soil. Maybe not the commmon Pakistani but there are elements within the state ,who under guise of non actors have been the root cause of this situation. Instead of blaming and criticising ,Indians for this action, please look into this so called nonstate actors who have initiated this. Interpol ,FBI, Russsian agencies and UN all have agreeed to the Pakistani link to this cowardly act of killing civilians on 26/11. Consider it lucky that war was not thrust as yet and just a tour cancelled. Bieng jealous of ptrogress of neighbour and indulging in vandalism acts to sabotage such is a common south asian mentality and more so in the non state actors state. Fact is and will remaon that many more countries will not be visiting Pakistan in future till some house cleaning is done because when you breed pests to meance others houses they also damamge your own.

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  • Matthew on December 23, 2008, 4:57 GMT

    Nothing wrong with Indian decsion. It is perfect political pressure on a state which in self denial about activities on its soil. Maybe not the commmon Pakistani but there are elements within the state ,who under guise of non actors have been the root cause of this situation. Instead of blaming and criticising ,Indians for this action, please look into this so called nonstate actors who have initiated this. Interpol ,FBI, Russsian agencies and UN all have agreeed to the Pakistani link to this cowardly act of killing civilians on 26/11. Consider it lucky that war was not thrust as yet and just a tour cancelled. Bieng jealous of ptrogress of neighbour and indulging in vandalism acts to sabotage such is a common south asian mentality and more so in the non state actors state. Fact is and will remaon that many more countries will not be visiting Pakistan in future till some house cleaning is done because when you breed pests to meance others houses they also damamge your own.

  • Mikso Mocha on December 23, 2008, 5:12 GMT

    UK/USA/Aus/SA and even UN have put Pakistan on the list of countries where it advises "Do not visit unless unavoidable". Now even ICC had endorsed the fact by its security assesment. UN USA have come close to declaring Pakistan a t-state. Come on guys so many people cant be wrong at same time bor is it that Pakistan is like some valuable oil rich or resource rich country for so many countries to malign Pakistans reputation at same time.....Fact is and its evident from world response that trusting Pakistan is not easy because so called non-state actors exist in a sizeable quantity and no country wants to risk their ctizens in such a ocuntry. People of Pakistan have to suffer ....but then only people of Pakistan can bring about the change in their own country by standing up ....but all we see is people of pakistan blaming everybody else for their own misery and live in self denial..and this is just the beginning of misery and boycotts which will follow over years if things dont change

  • athar on December 23, 2008, 6:17 GMT

    Kamran, please change your photo.

  • Haider on December 23, 2008, 6:39 GMT

    I am shocked by the initial comments of Mr Haroon Lorgat. If ICC cannot or is not capable of helping then atleast it should not play the role of a spoiler. Also it is no brainer to judge the extreme bias that ICC has developed against Pakistan especially when you compare it with the way they went out of the way to cajole England for touring India in much worse circumstances.

  • David Furrows on December 23, 2008, 6:41 GMT

    The Pakistan v Sri Lanka tour actually serves a far more important purpose: it is the opportunity for the PCB and Sri Lankan authorities to agree to select ICL players and to break the current BCCI-dictated restraint of trade forever.

    Pakistan will not get a better opportunity with a more willing opponent, and so this series should go ahead even if it has to be in the UAE.

    The ICC has limply followed the BCCI on the issue of the rebel Indian leagues, so Pakistan and Sri Lanka - both of whom have recently been dudded by the Indians - now have the opportunity to provide some leadership.

    By all means say that Yousuf et al can't have central contracts and play in the ICL. But why shouldn't they be paid to represent their country on a match by match basis?

    In 1995 the West Indies dropped Des Haynes against Australia for similar reasons, and lost their world crown. The PCB needs to stop lying down deferentially before a BCCI which has just cancelled a tour of Pakistan.

  • shoeb on December 23, 2008, 7:12 GMT

    Yeah cricket is not like football which is loved all over the world. Yes cricket is there is there and present and popular in UK, AUSTRALIA, INDIA, PAKISTAN etc and it is growing through the twenty20 leagues. This doesnt mean that the icc doesnt has any powers. I think icc should encourage pakistan is a home place to play cricket where definitely never cricketers are targeted. Hopefully icc and the other playing nations understand it.

  • Rao on December 23, 2008, 7:14 GMT

    Well, you are absolutely right in stating that the political divisions strenghten the hands of perpetrators of terrorism. However pls understand that India and Indian public will support continuing people interaction and cricleting and cultural ties, if enough credibility is built by the Pakistan government by demonstrating that they are on the same side of fighting terror. As long as the elected government is in denial mode and is unwilling to cooperate in a positive manner any continuation of cultural ties will strengthen terrorist idealogy in Pakistan further by giving them a tacit state support.

  • Kashir on December 23, 2008, 7:15 GMT

    Pakistani players should withdraw themselves from participating in any upcoming ICL and IPL competitions in the protest of India not touring to Pakistan. That is the least we can show as a protest as a nation.

  • Venaru on December 23, 2008, 7:16 GMT

    This is to inform that india is in the same side along with pakistan , when the debate about champions trophy as been taken in ICC meeting. If you say that it is not worth of praise then india should not be blamed for cancelling this tour.

  • Amchisty on December 23, 2008, 7:16 GMT

    Indeed it is double standard on part of ICC and it is seen clearly by every sane soul on this earth. Mr. Logart, people like you and Mr. M Speed have taken it like family business and acting in the same maner as how you run your family through your kitchen, the only thing here is its the power block instead of ur wife.

    What makes oyu give statement about the security of the umpires and other staff, common accept the assurance that are given by the Govet of pakistan and PCB, or is it that they need to warm your pockets and i am sure u do accept otherwise u and the bunch of jokers who are in the organizaion wouldnt ahve travlled to Chennai and forced ECB to send its team.

    It does make sense inst it