England v India, 1st npower Test, Lord's July 19, 2011

Flower wants accuracy from Broad

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Andy Flower, the England team director, wants Stuart Broad to concentrate on improving his accuracy and forget playing the role of England's enforcer. Since Andrew Flintoff retired, Broad has gained a reputation for being the aggressor in England's pace attack, a bowler who can unsettle the batsmen with quick bouncers while the others focus on pitching it up and swinging the ball.

Broad, however, is now competing with Tim Bresnan for a spot in the first Test against India at Lord's on July 21 after struggling with his form in recent matches.

Flower said he didn't like the term 'enforcer'. "Broad's got pace and bounce and he's a great competitor, but he can be more accurate," he told the Guardian. "I've heard some crazy stuff about him being - and I hate this word - an enforcer. His job is to create pressure and to take wickets and to do that you generally bowl at off stump. So his job is not to rough up the opposition. It is not to be this ridiculous enforcer."

It was England bowling coach David Saker, however, who had said: "We want him to be the enforcer in our team. There is no better bowler in the world than Stuart at bowling bouncers."

Flower also played down Broad's exclusion from the fifth ODI against Sri Lanka, saying it was a tactical move. "It wasn't a particularly tough decision. We had to bring in another spinner and we thought [Jade] Dernbach would be more effective and give us a better chance of winning. I didn't think he [Broad] bowled as badly as his figures suggested against Sri Lanka. I've got a lot of respect for Broad as a young cricketer.

"We always select our best XI and Stuart has been a big part of that for the last few years. That's the criteria we'll use when picking the side for Lords. He's in the squad but we've yet to make a decision about the best XI."

Broad went wicketless in three of the four ODIs he played against Sri Lanka, and conceded 70 runs in 10 overs in England's loss at Headingley. He played county cricket last week to regain form ahead of the India series and took six wickets for Nottinghamshire against Somerset, including 5 for 95 in the first innings.

India will play four Tests in England and the series is being called the battle for the No. 1 ranking, with England needing to win by a margin of two to surpass India. Flower defended his team being vocal about its desire to be the top-ranked Test side, saying it was not arrogance but a natural goal.

"I find it strange that it's seen as overconfidence or an outlandish goal. Surely that's the goal you should have? Otherwise aren't you selling yourself and your country short? We don't set the goal with the expectation we're just going to talk about it. We haven't put a time limit on it, but this series is different because we're playing the current No. 1 side in the world."

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  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | July 22, 2011, 21:27 GMT

    @Sameer Sitaram; Eng 474/d - how's that "complete whitewash series with India winning" looking for you now?

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2011, 1:43 GMT

    Broad the enforcer! Oh wait, it must be Tremlett, wait.. there is someone else waiting in the flanks. One makes you wonder if India is the only team that stays clear of the pre-match pomp and boasting. I watched Rahul Dravid's interview and it was plain and understated. Reading this article above makes me think that this will be a complete whitewash series with India winning, of course.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | July 20, 2011, 22:18 GMT

    Hey @rana2000; I see you've come all the way back from Sri Lanka - is it to enjoy more of our lovely rain - or is it to watch England put india away???

  • POSTED BY ruchinn on | July 20, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    When was the last time Broad took wickets & isn't this guy the same who has the honorable record of being the only bowler in modern cricket being hit for 6 sixes. No wonder he opens the bowling for Pommies!!!!

  • POSTED BY stormy16 on | July 20, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    Yep Broad's been way too short and I will be suprised if he plays at lords. Surely you cant go in to such a critical opening test on what is expected to be flat track with Broad bowling short rubbish to class batsman. Broad has his chance and blew it and I reckon he be sent back to county cricket to get the basics sorted. He has a big role to play in Eng's future and rather spend the time getting his role sorted than later.

  • POSTED BY AKS286 on | July 20, 2011, 15:59 GMT

    england have 7 batsmen thats enough if eng team wants very long batting then plunkett, r.clarke, luke wright instead of anderson, tremlett, broad.lol this is foolish select onion, harmison, simon jones or finn NO to bresnan & broad.

  • POSTED BY KingOwl on | July 20, 2011, 14:51 GMT

    Borad roughing up the opposition? Give me a break. That baby face cannot rough up even a kitten!

  • POSTED BY ReverseSweepIndia on | July 20, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    @dsig3, even though I am an Indian, but completely agree with you. Australian players "were" very arrogant, but Aus public was very moderate and understanding. Even it will be too harsh to call eng players arrogant, they sure speak a lot, sometimes nonsense too, but certainly are not disrespectfull to opposition. Even Indian players have carried them gracefully few exceptions are always there. If we have Sreesanth, Bhajji, Eng have Broad, SA have Smith and not to forget Ponting in Aus, Pak had Afridi (cant think of any from SL or NZ or WI). BUT Indian followers are turning more like supporters of some political party rather than follower of cricket. Swan is a good bowler and a breath of fresh air, just like a Sehwag, a WI Russel or Edwards, an ever smiling Ntini or Murali. Never ever underestimate your opposition and as someone said that Trott is 3rd class player, then this 3rd class player has been almost impossible to remove from crease in recent times. Its time we learn to respect.

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | July 20, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    I've got it: is Broad left or right handed? If he's left handed, that would explain his poor bowling (he bowls right-arm, which would be his weaker arm); if he's right handed, he tries to bat left-handed and can't seem to manage. Solution: drop him for a better player (like Bresnan) that knows their left from their right!

  • POSTED BY Woodsheart on | July 20, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    @Poms: I feel england has a lot of better players in domestic levels to bring up to the team...They can easily fill the boots of the present team ..There is a lot of good players ,bring them up ..England will see a good ODI team as well as in other two formats too.It is the same to dealt with westindies ,Australia and India too..

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | July 22, 2011, 21:27 GMT

    @Sameer Sitaram; Eng 474/d - how's that "complete whitewash series with India winning" looking for you now?

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2011, 1:43 GMT

    Broad the enforcer! Oh wait, it must be Tremlett, wait.. there is someone else waiting in the flanks. One makes you wonder if India is the only team that stays clear of the pre-match pomp and boasting. I watched Rahul Dravid's interview and it was plain and understated. Reading this article above makes me think that this will be a complete whitewash series with India winning, of course.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | July 20, 2011, 22:18 GMT

    Hey @rana2000; I see you've come all the way back from Sri Lanka - is it to enjoy more of our lovely rain - or is it to watch England put india away???

  • POSTED BY ruchinn on | July 20, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    When was the last time Broad took wickets & isn't this guy the same who has the honorable record of being the only bowler in modern cricket being hit for 6 sixes. No wonder he opens the bowling for Pommies!!!!

  • POSTED BY stormy16 on | July 20, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    Yep Broad's been way too short and I will be suprised if he plays at lords. Surely you cant go in to such a critical opening test on what is expected to be flat track with Broad bowling short rubbish to class batsman. Broad has his chance and blew it and I reckon he be sent back to county cricket to get the basics sorted. He has a big role to play in Eng's future and rather spend the time getting his role sorted than later.

  • POSTED BY AKS286 on | July 20, 2011, 15:59 GMT

    england have 7 batsmen thats enough if eng team wants very long batting then plunkett, r.clarke, luke wright instead of anderson, tremlett, broad.lol this is foolish select onion, harmison, simon jones or finn NO to bresnan & broad.

  • POSTED BY KingOwl on | July 20, 2011, 14:51 GMT

    Borad roughing up the opposition? Give me a break. That baby face cannot rough up even a kitten!

  • POSTED BY ReverseSweepIndia on | July 20, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    @dsig3, even though I am an Indian, but completely agree with you. Australian players "were" very arrogant, but Aus public was very moderate and understanding. Even it will be too harsh to call eng players arrogant, they sure speak a lot, sometimes nonsense too, but certainly are not disrespectfull to opposition. Even Indian players have carried them gracefully few exceptions are always there. If we have Sreesanth, Bhajji, Eng have Broad, SA have Smith and not to forget Ponting in Aus, Pak had Afridi (cant think of any from SL or NZ or WI). BUT Indian followers are turning more like supporters of some political party rather than follower of cricket. Swan is a good bowler and a breath of fresh air, just like a Sehwag, a WI Russel or Edwards, an ever smiling Ntini or Murali. Never ever underestimate your opposition and as someone said that Trott is 3rd class player, then this 3rd class player has been almost impossible to remove from crease in recent times. Its time we learn to respect.

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | July 20, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    I've got it: is Broad left or right handed? If he's left handed, that would explain his poor bowling (he bowls right-arm, which would be his weaker arm); if he's right handed, he tries to bat left-handed and can't seem to manage. Solution: drop him for a better player (like Bresnan) that knows their left from their right!

  • POSTED BY Woodsheart on | July 20, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    @Poms: I feel england has a lot of better players in domestic levels to bring up to the team...They can easily fill the boots of the present team ..There is a lot of good players ,bring them up ..England will see a good ODI team as well as in other two formats too.It is the same to dealt with westindies ,Australia and India too..

  • POSTED BY 200ondebut on | July 20, 2011, 11:20 GMT

    Wow - what short memories everyone has. Less than a year ago Broad was saving Englands blushes with a marvelous 169 at Lords in the last test against Pakistan. You would have to be an idiot to call 169 batting terribly and a complete moron to say it about someone who did it batting at number 9. He also averaged 23 with the ball. He has played four tests since. If we chopped and changed everytime anyone had a bad game or two we would end up with just a side and not a team - and anyone who has played team sports at any decent level will know the difference.

  • POSTED BY chapathishot on | July 20, 2011, 11:00 GMT

    @AW_SL:So you think that official ICC ranking has relevance.Just informl your fellow lankans that India are No 1 in that list

  • POSTED BY sweetspot on | July 20, 2011, 9:35 GMT

    Yes, his job is to give 6 sixers every over, whenever the game gets a bit boring.

  • POSTED BY on | July 20, 2011, 8:34 GMT

    This is rubbish, england regularly dont pick their best XI , because any team with wright and yardy in it is not a "best XI"

  • POSTED BY anver777 on | July 20, 2011, 8:01 GMT

    Hope "BROAD minded" Flower's advice may change Stuart Broad's bowling approach in the coming series !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY tomhedley on | July 20, 2011, 7:49 GMT

    @Gavin Stevenson omg! His average is higher in Test cricket than ODI's, I wonder why lol? Also Test matches are included in First Class averages, nearly half of his First Class matches are Test's, hence the high average. England love players with at least 2 strings to their bow, that's a big problem for Bunions unfortunately, no way Flower would want 3 proper tail enders. It's not something I agree with, especially with a 4 man attack it's paramount that you don't carry one of them, lets hope Broad fires and roughs that fragile middle order up!

  • POSTED BY SachinLara1 on | July 20, 2011, 4:36 GMT

    @pirki: youre saying indians are flat track bullies...OK then indian bowlers were also bowling in that flat track..then zaheer must be the greatest bowler in the world by picking more wickets in flat track do u agree that???

  • POSTED BY on | July 20, 2011, 3:36 GMT

    Stuart Broad needs to take a long hard look at himself. A bloke who still averages 36+ after 37 Tests (and under 3 wickets per Test) is either not accurate enough or isn't up to it. He averages 30 in FFC (3.37 wickets per Tests) so maybe he's not up to it. You can't blame the different variety of cricket either, he averages less than 30 in the T20 and ODI's, so why not Tests and FFC.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | July 20, 2011, 1:14 GMT

    Has to be Bresnan over Broad. Broad does have the ability to run thru a batting line up, (more so than Bresnan), - but that is VERY rare. Bresnan seems like a robust sort of guy who'll always give 100% & create pressure for his fellow bowlers.

  • POSTED BY suprabadh on | July 19, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    Broad unmindful of the past performances against Srilanka should go great guns fin the series against India. One should under estimate a bowler just because he has not performed in one series. He will come back vehemently in the series against India and prove his mettle. Let the past failures be stepping stone for future success.

  • POSTED BY stationmaster on | July 19, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    There's a selection issue here - Broad has somehow made his way into the 'old boys club' of the England set up, along with Ian Bell. Broad can basically do what ever he wants, bowl terribly bat pathetically over several series, and STILL hold his place, much like Ian Bell in the ODI side. What must Onions and Shazad be thinking ? How on earth does Bresnan have to be competing with Broad for his place - Bresnan his head and shoulders above Broad - with bat AND ball. This situtation with selection is seriously holding back ENG from progressing - selection must be performance based not 'he's a good lad in the changing room so we don't mind if he's not good enough to take a wicket or score a run'. Massive shame.

  • POSTED BY couchpundit on | July 19, 2011, 20:02 GMT

    @KavumPerethaya - True Genuine Team that needs to be in No.1 Spot is SriLanka...;-P

  • POSTED BY couchpundit on | July 19, 2011, 20:01 GMT

    LOL we all know Pommes are all Talk no show(historically)...thats why during last Ashes Series AFlower reigned in everyone from talking to Press...it was completely different results which Pommes are used to .....Now he has failed to Reign them in... and we see so many loose talks in media by English players.... Lets see what happens in next few weeks.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 19:10 GMT

    this is going to be one mouth-watering delicious cracker jack of a test series. Cricket at best..no 20 over stuff which they dole out..hard fought and tough...fingers crossed for India...this is a fantastic series for fans from both teams...test cricket still rules

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | July 19, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    Indian has not played Pakistan for so long as arch rivalry could have given ashes taste and ranking might have been dirrerent. Absence of Sehwag might induce confidence the remaining lineup. Windies recently did gaylelessly. India should play their natural game as their batting is very capable and undoubtedly the best batting lineup in every format. Indian bowling can be very effective the new trio of Ishant, ZAK and PK. Add spin of Bhajji and Raina and you get adequate precision to give english tough time. Similarly English bowling has also been effective and can be very potent. All four main Indian bowlers are capable of getting 5 wicket hauls and same is true for english bowling. Batting is strong on both sides and will be the deciding factor in this series. Anyway, number one ranking is up for grab sooner or later by England, South Africa or eventually Aussies.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_is_soul on | July 19, 2011, 18:42 GMT

    England's early sucess in the series depends upon anderson's form. Others will be just a support bowlers around him. Without him I feel India with shewag returning for the 3rd test will be 1-1 draw or 2-0 India. Like wise their batting depends upon cook's form.

  • POSTED BY Exfactor44 on | July 19, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    If you look at the guys Troy Cooley had involvement with coaching (Harmison, Flintoff, Brett Lee) - all of them had pace, a high degree of intensity (whilst looking pretty relaxed) and aggression but at the same time (mostly) a pretty high degree of control - both over themselves and their bowling. I think this is a good call by Flower - Broad has been trying to hard to become bigger and badder than he actually is: when he sets himself and starts bowling control he does far far better.

  • POSTED BY Angad11 on | July 19, 2011, 18:05 GMT

    @Nutcutlet - WOW Great work, that was even tougher than DaVinci's code.

  • POSTED BY AKS286 on | July 19, 2011, 17:28 GMT

    onion finn bresnan plunkett harmison faaaaaaar faaaaaaaaaar better than broad.

  • POSTED BY Charindra on | July 19, 2011, 17:26 GMT

    @LSmith - Sri Lanka? Minnows??? Obviously you haven't been watching a lot of cricket in the past 15 years have you. I take pity on you. Being clueless about cricket and commenting on Cricinfo. Oh well.... If you get a kick out of it....

  • POSTED BY Siddharth_Pandit on | July 19, 2011, 17:05 GMT

    Don't know where all this jingoism comes from? England are in good form and Indians have lot of overseas experience, hope it will be a well fought series !! Cheers..

  • POSTED BY HumungousFungus on | July 19, 2011, 16:59 GMT

    I see a lot of similarities between Broad and Ishant Sharma...Both have all of the physical attributes needed to be top class fast bowlers (height / pace etc)...both generally bowl either too short or too wide or too short AND too wide and seem more obsessed with watching the ball fly through to the keeper than making the batsman play...both very dangerous bowlers when they actually bowl straight on a good length, and each capable of turning in a match on its head in one spell...but both in danger of wasting their considerable potential by bowling a higher percentage of absolute rubbish than international Test Match bowlers should...Hopefully it's not too late for each of them to turn it around, as they're both very young still, and have had to learn how to bowl at international rather than county / state level, which is not ideal... It's all a moot point though, because I fully expect England to pick Bresnan, as he has better control and can reverse the old ball better than Broad

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | July 19, 2011, 16:37 GMT

    This is an interesting little report into something that's going on. Saker termed Broad an enforcer and now Flower has to recant that assessment of the problem child.( I said recant, but I might as well have said rubbish). This suggests that Saker wasn't in line with the manager. Hey ho! Confusion is never helpful. Next, Flower says he wants consistency/ to create pressure. Well, no one has to tell Bresan to do that because that's what he does - day in, day out. So IS there a selection problem? It has to be Bresnan at Lord's (as I've thought all along).Lastly, to sugar the pill, Flower calls Borad a 'young cricketer'. This is slightly odd as 'young' doesn't necessarily refer to his age (25) alone, but to his lack of maturity and work-in-progess technique (37 tests, but not there yet). So, reading between the lines, I think we have it! 'Stuart, see what Tim does? That's what I want you to do. Tim, you'll be playing.'(And, young Stuart, I'd like to see if you can do some catching up.)

  • POSTED BY inswing on | July 19, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    It is a good test for both teams. In home conditions, this is England's best chance to win and get the #1 spot, as they typically have little chance to win in India. While England lack superstars, they have a lot of solid performers both with the ball and the bat that make up for that completely. For India, this is another test of the big 3. Dravid and Laxman did well in the WI, but 2-3 failures in a row will again renew the calls for new blood, given how many youngsters are waiting and waiting and waiting. My prediction is for a 1-1 draw.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    Let's wait and see. Should be a good contest. India is still no 1, and probably will be afterwards (even if England wins, a margin of 2 would be difficult), but those Indian fans expecting 4-0 result or anything like that are blinded by their fantasies. India have not won more than 2 games in a series in the past 10 years! India has NEVER won more than 3 games in a series, and they've won 3 three times (last in 1994). 2-1 is probably the most likely result, whichever side wins.

    Also, don't forget: no Sehwag for at least two games! That is a HUGE blow. Anyone should be able to see that this is going to be a great contest: India are established no 1, but England are a rising team, whether or not they are ready to take the no 1 ranking. And they have many young talented batsmen. India is still the best of course, but who will replace the middle order trio of Tendulkar, Laxman, and Dravid?

  • POSTED BY mrmonty on | July 19, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    Rough up the opposition, ehh! When was the last time Broad had anyone but himself roughed up? He has been running on empty for quite a while compared to bowlers like Bresnan and Shahzad.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    I PRAY INDIANS SWEEP THE SERIES 4-0

  • POSTED BY geevee97 on | July 19, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    i dunno y when it comes to india alone, the No.1 ranking is questioned.. when australians were at their peak for more than 10 years(since 1996), indians have won more tests against each other than them.. does it mean they didn't deserved to be no.1 then.. does losing to england in england question their no.1 ranking.. then what about england who haven't proved yet in India.. Indians have done well against all opponents since 2004.. better than any other side.. and also everywhere.. had it not been for the infamous sydney test match (which India should've won had 50% of the wrong decisions been corrected)

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | July 19, 2011, 15:53 GMT

    Btw give him a break, he only averages 4 more runs a wicket than Z.Khan. With a bit of luck he will get his average down to old Zaheers magical number of 32. He will then be what Zaheer is, an average bowler.

  • POSTED BY KricketWicket on | July 19, 2011, 15:27 GMT

    Enforser my foot. Whenever I see Stuart Broad, I remember only one thing - Six Sixes. Let me tell you what he will enforse - An Indian Win!!!

  • POSTED BY joshineerav on | July 19, 2011, 15:16 GMT

    Officially, Sachin Tendulkar enters the 1st Test at Lord's with a highest score of just 37 at the ground. But Sachin Tendulkar has scored a century at Lords in a Diana Memorial Charity One Day Match on 18th July 1998. Sachin scored 125 off 114 balls. The match was between MCC XI and Rest of the World XI. Sachin was the match of the match.

  • POSTED BY CricSoul on | July 19, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    can someone please tell me will Broad feature in playing 11 or its bresnan?

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    If Stuart Broad were Indian, I think we'd hear a different story from their fans, but that's standard ;) I think its going to be a close series, Strauss has to get over his weakness against left arm quicks during a bit of a run drought recently. India have to hope a new opener comes good straight away in probably some of the toughest conditions in the world for openers, and Stuart Broad will have to take 20 wickets in the series to quieten down the Indian fans who don't like his attitude! Seriously though, neither side is going to go down as one of the great teams, yet. But honestly Indias batting line up is on the way out, Englands is on the way up, and Indias bowling is probably only a little bit better the Sri Lankas was ;) Whereas Englands bowling is up there with S-Africa as the best in the world. A close series, but India, even if its not now your time as number one test team is up within a couple of years, if not now! Hope that doesn't mean the end of test cricket :(

  • POSTED BY AW_SL on | July 19, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    @ LSmith: Sri Lanka, minnows? check out the official test rankings before you comment kind sir! (in case you intelligence abandons you further, here's the link: http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_zone/team_ranking.php)

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | July 19, 2011, 14:23 GMT

    Empire XI, eh? I am not sure why cricinfo allowed that comment. I sincerely hope that they aren't biased and allow mine too.

    sabana, When Marathis, Biharis, Punjabis, Tamils, Telugus and Malayalees can come together and form a team, there is nothing wrong in England forming a team with a few foreign born players. Remember that these players are qualified to play for England because they have at least one English parent. In this age, where migration to other countries is rather common and Indians are among those who migrate a lot, I am rather surprised that an Indian would bring the origin of an England player into question. It is ludicrous.

  • POSTED BY LSmith on | July 19, 2011, 13:41 GMT

    Its a joke when people say ENG challenge India for no 1 but stats show Eng struggle to win minnow SL...

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 13:31 GMT

    @gorsi - aren't you a bit confused mate? All this nonsense about Broad having talent, ability to succeed etc has gone on a bit too long. Numbers and performances on the field do not lie. Neither does the body language, which also reveals temperament. Whilst I have personally nothing against Stuart Broad, I remain a sceptic about his abilities. And I also have reasons to believe that as a sceptic of Broad, I have the company of some rather privileged gentlemen. In 2 days time, it will be up to Stuart to prove us wrong.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 13:31 GMT

    Flower says Broad's job is not to rough up the opposition. I thought his job was to take wickets? Whatever, I think Broad's ideal job would be to carry the drinks

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 13:15 GMT

    I really hope that all 4 matches turn out to be very high scoring draws <pun intended>

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | July 19, 2011, 13:11 GMT

    Its amusing seeing some of these comments. The world thought the Aussies were arrogant but they havent seen anything yet. India is turning the world against them very quickly.

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | July 19, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    When I have seen Broad at his best he is attacking the batsmen and trying to swing the ball. I just dont see McGrath in him. Not in his make up. Its too late to change him. He either attacks or he wont be good enough.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 12:54 GMT

    Stuart Broad is not as great as england fans hype would have you believe. Originally he was fast tracked into the side as a long term investment, ahead of more worthy bowlers at the time (eg Hoggard who was dumped 2 years too early & Tremlett who broke into the side before him but was then overlooked) However, after 4 years and over 30 tests, his distinctly average test stats show no sign of improving and he retains the attitude of a dummy spitting two year old. There is no doubt his name has something to do with his retention in the side. I mainitain anyone who gets whacked for 6 sixes in an over cant be international class. Two words sum up Broad "average" and "overrated"

  • POSTED BY Metman on | July 19, 2011, 12:47 GMT

    England will win the series ,either 1 nil,or 2 nil.I don't see that Indian bowling attack bowling England out twice in England.India,on the other hand will win the one day competitions.

  • POSTED BY sabana on | July 19, 2011, 12:38 GMT

    Indeed!! England have managed to train some fine bowlers, it could be that they do not have to breed or train batsman - that is left for SA to do and partly Ireland. let's hope the Empire XI vs India series held in England is a good one with no rain and all 5 days of close matches in every test.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 12:03 GMT

    India will have a tough time if Gambhir fails. Vijay is a good opener and he failed unfortunately.

  • POSTED BY TheDurbanTrundler on | July 19, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    I am disappointed to see so many Indian supporters spouting nonsense about the England team, be it how it is the South African "B team" or that they are a bunch of arrogant no-hopers. This coming from a nation I always believed to be the most fair-minded. I am not aware of any of the England players or staff saying that they are currently the "best" team or that the Indian team can't do this or that. England want to be number one (and so they should, as Flower says) and to be so they have to be the current number one team which is India (and deservedly so). Personally I think this is going to be a brilliant series (weather permitting) with the two best batting line-ups pitched against two of the best balanced bowling line-ups. Far too close to call in my book with India's experience matching England's home ground advantage. 4-0 to either side - rubbish. 2-1 to somebody or a drawn series. Let's hope it lives up to the hype.

  • POSTED BY MAAMBA on | July 19, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    After winning this series 4-0, India must think to give enough chance to youngsters. They all are very much talented..To give them a good chance we have split india in to minimum three team .

    1) South India : Dravid, Laxman, Vijay, Badri, Mukund, Rayudu, Reddy,Uthappa,Dinesh karthick pandey, vinaykumar, mithun, sreesanth, Aswin, murali karthick and etc.,

    2) West India: Sachin, Rohit, pujara,Jadeja, parthiv, yusuf, irfan,zaheer,valthaty and others

    3) Gambhir, shewag, dhoni, raina, yuvraj, harbhajan, ishant, Praveen, RP singh, Amit mishra, and others

    one day we can see North india vs South india in World cup final...

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | July 19, 2011, 11:58 GMT

    Broad is simply not quick enough to be England's "enforcer." He should not be playing the shorter versions of the game at all in his current form and with his attitude. As a test player, he definately has the potential to be a decent all-rounder, but I agree with Flower 100% that he should concentrate on accuracy instead of this 'roughing up' nonesense. Even though I support England for the upcoming series against India, I agree with all the comments saying how happily India will score off Broad if he keeps dishing up that pointless short-pitched trash! Learn from the greats like McGrath: speed = nothing without accuracy.

  • POSTED BY gorsi on | July 19, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    Broad has got it all that it takes at international level and i know he has a lot more to offer to england in future. but i really want to see how broad comes out of the criticism he is facing being an Indian i wud rather be wary of him we all remember Cook was receiving similar rants from the left right and center just before Ashes... look what he is now... i wud love to see Broad coming out of this bad patch with a (Broad) smile on his face rather than arrogant and self destructive attitude of his... many people in india (being the most intolerant ) predicted his career was over after being hit for six sixes but that was not be... i want india to do well on this tour (that i know they will).... but i also want to see Broad coming out with a smile before this series is over...you belong here Broady...way more than anybody else....

  • POSTED BY SatyaG1 on | July 19, 2011, 11:50 GMT

    Hi all.. I'm an Indian and also have due respect for the English cricket team.India has earned the No.1 spot with efforts of a decade. And England team is also in good form and challenging India. This series will decide how the Indians wil fulfil their status and how England can challenge India for the top spot.Anxiously wtng for the strt of the series. All the best to both the teams, hope to see a great contest between them.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 11:41 GMT

    @Nikhil Dhar Yes I'm afraid everyday less and less comments are made by what I assume to be the majority of fans on both sides who understand cricket and are looking forward to a closely fought series between two quality sides without all the taunts and jingoistic nonsense.

  • POSTED BY Stark62 on | July 19, 2011, 11:27 GMT

    None of these teams deserve no. 1 position!

    SA should be no. 1 and they are the only team that have performed consistently. They are chokers when it comes to knockout phases but other then that, they are the best.

  • POSTED BY cricket_fan_1 on | July 19, 2011, 11:21 GMT

    No need to speculate. we will all know in a few weeks time the outcome. Enjoy the series if you want to. Don't comment unnecessarily. Don't spoil the buildup and the atmosphere. Batting is not the problem for India, current crop of Indian Batsmen are the best players of bouncers or short balls. Problem is Indian bowlers, India doesn't have genuine fast bowlers to bowl bouncers at opposition and expose their weakness. Look at the scores of the Pak-Eng series, Pak-WI series, PAk-AU series. all low scoring. none of the batsmen could play genuine pace.

  • POSTED BY bijuaugustin on | July 19, 2011, 11:03 GMT

    @pirk ---- hello friend if Indian are FLAT TRACK BULLIES, how come england loss in 2007, have you watch SA vs IND test serious recently, then you judge... All england team are just hype..talk more ...this and those, when they lose , then ready to face next team bla..bla..

  • POSTED BY Karthik_CricketFan on | July 19, 2011, 10:57 GMT

    Let the world see how the Englishmen will struggle against my Indian brothers.. :) All the best India...show them that you people are indeed the No.1. England's arrogance needs to be shown the way OUT.

  • POSTED BY Kunal-Talgeri on | July 19, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    If England know India is selecting Sreesanth in the Lord's line-up, they should take Broad for man-to-man balance, temperamentally. :-D Else, it is so obvious: Bresnan is the man who must play.

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | July 19, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    @pirki barks Indians dont play bouncers well...if so, how the heck we won matches in NZ, Perth, Durban, WI ( the series win in England when we toured last time) Pls dont be jealous that no one is willing to play cricket with Pak

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | July 19, 2011, 10:37 GMT

    Lot of jealosy barkings that Ind is no 1....good going India

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | July 19, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    @pirki, i know why you like Zaheer...its a open secret, last time pak toured eng and the result was 10,7 and 5...you know what i mean?

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    @sriram: they have an excuse for that, they have not played enough test there..i see sri lankans touring india once in every 2 years..ha ha ha ha

  • POSTED BY cricfan0110 on | July 19, 2011, 10:29 GMT

    why in the world are people jealous about india being no. 1 test team @pirki buddy flat track bullies don't score thousands of runs which i thinks indian really do and not those england guys.@sampath suranjan buddy your dream will never be fullfilled. nice dream keep dreaming.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 10:29 GMT

    only those indians who have slavish mindset are predicting the victory of their erstwhile colonizers..and this stuart broad..he will bowl short pitched and indian batsmand would be pulling him merrily..ha ha ha ha

  • POSTED BY rockz.andy on | July 19, 2011, 10:29 GMT

    SriramNatarajan are you kidding him at least someone have delivered his sppech of lifetime..someone is good at it will tell you one thing after losing to india Rameej raja asked Younis khan in presentation area tell us younis" howz the hospitality here and younis replied firmly that yes the hospital is very good and they cured my injury in 2 days. LOLZZZZ

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    @craigdrm, Couldn't agree with you more. I'm Indian, but some of the jingoistic nonsense spouted on this site by my countrymen is ridiculous. Can we relax and stop taking all even slightly contrary views as personal attacks on our country? Let's sit back and enjoy what promises to be a mouth-wateringly even(?) series.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 10:02 GMT

    @sampath suranjan..the scoreline would be reverse...i bet...india 4..england 0...

  • POSTED BY Rishabh.Mehta on | July 19, 2011, 9:59 GMT

    hahahaha.....it is a joke........Stuart broad has taken 100 wickets in 30 odd games... and you count it as a strike bowler..... uff.....too much overhyped..... And entire england team is too much overhyped..... Against india they have not been able to win a series in last 15 years not even in england forget about India.... they have not won a series in Pakistan/ west indies/ Srilanka in say so many years.... and these people claim that it is no one.....i cant stop laughing.... And by the way for those who feel india is not a no one team.... then mind you India is no .1 for last 20 months and will be no one for many years......England has never even come close to be no 1. How can a team be no 1 without defeating or even avoiding defeats against top 4 nations out of 8???? People please justify.....

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 9:59 GMT

    David Saker said that Broad is the best bowler of bouncers in the world. Give me a break!! if you compare Broad's bouncers to Marshall, Ambrose, Akram,Donald of previous years, Broads look about as threatening as a game of tiddy winks. They really need to come off their high horse regarding the so called Enforcer Broad. His bowling is an utter failure and his stats confirm this. He is a one trick pony who has built of some over hyped reputation but actually has NOTHING to back it up with.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    Are there conditions tougher than that of SA? do england have better attacke than stayn and morkel? do eng batting order have class of amla, kalis and courage of smith, devileries? if u ppl think no then how can u predict 4-0 win for eng? and if u ppl think yes then no one can help u... i think it will be close contest 2-1 for india most likely may be 1-1 but 3-1 or 2-0 win for england is most unlikely forget about 4-0 win for any team its impossible.

  • POSTED BY Vilander on | July 19, 2011, 9:37 GMT

    Andy flower is such an honest guy, loves his country must be hurting not doing this for his Zim :). Brutally honest not place for vanity in him or in his team. @ sampath sur, dude you need to chill down, living in an other country does not entail you need to become opposed to indin team.

  • POSTED BY chapathishot on | July 19, 2011, 9:36 GMT

    @KavumPerethaya:Being overrated means having a a high rating without achieving any thing.I dont think both these teams qualify for that title.But there is one team which can only win at a single ground at home which is the correct candidate for overrated title .

  • POSTED BY perl57 on | July 19, 2011, 9:27 GMT

    While English and India will fight for 2nd and top position respectively in World Test Cricket, Oz and SL will be fighting for 3rd and 4th position respectively (if you know what "respectively" means). There is no denying the fact that two of the super, hyper hyped teams SL and Oz have been displaced from top and the teams which actually counted for last 10 years are at the fore. If anything, the series will have the undisputed # 1, India standing at the end. I see it very difficult for English to beat India by more than 2 test margin. Broad is still scared of Yuvi and I am not sure if his bouncers will affect India in any way whatso ever. Only serious threat for first test, ANDERSON in bowling, Trott in batting.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    Brilliant by Flower. Broad over does the aggression. The SA in England is getting tiring. Prior and Strauss moved here when they were 6, which means they played all their cricket was played in England so how are they SA? The English System raised them! Trott and Pietersen got feed up with the system and moved in their late teens/early 20's which still means most of their cricket was played here which means they are English!

  • POSTED BY Narkovian on | July 19, 2011, 9:02 GMT

    Broad. Enforcer, line and length, allrounder, .. whatever. The main thing is his record ( he's not a new boy anymore 35 ? Tests) falls way short of what is required. Plus of course his attitude stinks. A year or two ago, I thought I would never have said this, but Bresnan has come on in leaps and bounds. He should definitely play at Lords in front of Broad. Bresnan's batting is a bit suspect, but much improved and probably equal now to Broad. Unfortunately I think he is a "sacred cow" and the cliquey management will not drop him... we'll see.

  • POSTED BY Finn92 on | July 19, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    Comments about the origins of some of the England players are getting boring, get over it they want to play for the country that they consider their own and they serve us well. I mean Strauss was just born there, he was hardly in the country, it was just like being born on holiday really. End of the day what do all of their passports say? English, enough said.

  • POSTED BY Tigg on | July 19, 2011, 8:45 GMT

    Broad needs a year or two out playing first class cricket around the world. For some reason he reaps enormous success in the county game yet cannot translate this into international matches. If he had ayear of first class cricket split between England, Australia and maybe India or Sri Lanka then he would gain experience of different pitches and conditions and, hopefully, hone his craft.

    By the end of this series he should not be in the squad.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    In Englands long cricket history. No bowler who has taken 100 or more wickets barr Devon Malcolm has a worse average. And lets not forget Devon's strike rate was far superior to that of Broads. Lets also not forget that Devon occassionally came up with a spell of bowling blessed by the gods. His 9 wickets in an innings a perfect example. Anyway Broad is statistically the worst bowler to ever play for England who has 100 wickets or more. TYhe only reason he has been persisted with for so long is because he was born in to the Broad family. I remember Nixon Mclean bowling for the West Indies in the 90's. Very little laterall movement, hardly got any wickets caught at the wicket. I kept saying to myself this guys is not an internation standrad bowler. Broad's bowling takes me back to those days when Nixon McLean was chucking pies.

  • POSTED BY pom_don on | July 19, 2011, 8:38 GMT

    Considering we are supposed to have a pro set up with all these back room boys you would have thought Saker & Flower would have had a chat about Broads goals a while ago it appears that the left hand was trying to do something different to the right.......all very confusing.... I like Bresnan's work ethic a lot more than Broads at the moment, Broad could be a good long term asset for our side he just needs to stop throwing his toys out of the pram.....mind you his dad did lead by example! Looking forward to a good series & an England win. Shame about not using DRS I hope that it well & truly backfires on India I would laugh my socks off watching them having to accept a howler against them......India the team that thinks they are bigger than the world.....NOT!

  • POSTED BY rockz.andy on | July 19, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    English players Starts with A,B,C till Z Andrew Straus Beckham,Broad,Bell,Bresnan Cook,Collingwood All are over hyped Money bee is hunting Andy flower :) LOLZ

    Trott,KP,Morgan,prior(Irish South African) are worth enough for ECB

  • POSTED BY pirki on | July 19, 2011, 8:28 GMT

    I think the weakest part of INDIAn batters is the playing BOUNCERS. Fletches will be happy after seeing flower's advice to broad. But even my Gut feeling is England will WHITEWASH the indians as I don't see any good player other than the ZAHEER. ALL THE INDIANS ARE FLAT TRACK BULLIES> ALTHOUGH THE NUMBER OF RUNS THEIR BATSMAN SCORED DON"T COUNT AT ALL. THEY don't deserve to be number one ranked team.

  • POSTED BY demon_bowler on | July 19, 2011, 8:20 GMT

    Yoganand K.g. says "Andy Flower stands out as a gentleman in this modern era when he is advising Broad to concentrate on his game rather than intimidating the opponents."

    What poppycock! The game has always been about courage as well as skill. There is nothing more boring than watching modern batsmen with their perfect bats score easy runs on flat pitches with shiny outfields. They've all got so much body armour today that there is no chance of them getting hurt anyway. If the groundsman won't prepare pitches that offer a proper contest between bat and ball, let's see the fast men try to give the batsmen a working over once in a while -- like Flintoff on Lara's last tour. Flower's point is that the bouncer isn't Broad's main strength. But it might be a useful tactic for Tremlett.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    @sampath suranjan..mate this is the ESPN CRICINFO website not ESPN football. England beating 4-0 is possible in soccer..are you having an overdose of EPL?

  • POSTED BY SriramNatarajan on | July 19, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    @KavumPerethaya: ha ha ha.. if England and India are over-rated teams, then you mean Srilanka is the best team? the team which has not won a single match in India, SA and Australia?

  • POSTED BY craigdrm on | July 19, 2011, 8:09 GMT

    I've always enjoyed watching India play, but due to the arrogant comments that are being spouted by Indian fans every 30 seconds on this site i truly hope England win comfortably. Ironically India's arrogance reminds me of the complaints made against Australia at the time of the Sydney test between Australia and India.

  • POSTED BY demon_bowler on | July 19, 2011, 8:01 GMT

    I wouldn't mind someone giving the Indian batsmen a good working over, though. Some of the younger ones are highly suspect against the short ball. I think Tremlett is the one to do this, not Broad.

  • POSTED BY Rocket_180 on | July 19, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    This just shows that England are going back to the old days of face fit selection, rather than picking the best XI

    England have loads of seamers that are all in form, bowling well and no what there doing when it comes to line and lenght, Bresnann,Finn,Onions etc.

    Yet England select an out of form bowler in Broad that really should be playing in county cricket for Notts and should look to come back in the winter tour when back firing as he is a quality bowler just not at the moment

    I really do hope that Flowers blindness faith in Broad pays off asEngland wont be able to carry a seamer when they only have 3 anyway

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 7:51 GMT

    ENG will beat india 4-0........useless number one's.

  • POSTED BY Tom_Bowler on | July 19, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    I'm glad Flower has now added his voice to the multitude calling for Broad to pitch it up. Broad does bowl a mean bouncer but a short ball's value is as a surprise weapon, when the batsman expects three balls an over to be pitched in the bowler's half it's of little use. Also Broad's reaped his greatest rewards bowling full, I'm surprised a coaching team as good as Flower and Saker haven't reminded him of this a bit more forcefully until now. Broad has a lot of talent and I'm sure he will be a valuable player for England in the future but for now I wonder if he might be better off recalibrating his range with Notts, Bresnan is a more than handy replacement.

  • POSTED BY kingcobra85 on | July 19, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    haha Stuart broad the enforcer ? its like saying "i know what charlie sheen is upto next"

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    Andy Flower stands out as a gentleman in this modern era when he is advising Broad to concentrate on his game rather than intimidating the opponents. As far as David Saker's statement of Broad being the best at bowling bouncers,well all I can say is Mr.Saker wake up from your dreams, welcome to the real world. There is no doubt Stuart is a good allrounder, but calling him the best enforcer is calling Munaf Patel the fastest bowler in the world.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 6:43 GMT

    It should be a very good series. People who think, India can't perform in seaming and Bouncing conditions, don't have to jog their minds too far but just have to look at the series in SA late last year. But said that, England are high on confidence since their Ashes triumph, and have been trumpeting about being the best side etc. England's performance against Sri Lanka was anything but dominating, so was India's performance against WI. So, the duel is about to start now; ENG are expected to do well as they are playing at home and INDIA is expected to fight back as they are the No. 1 ....

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 6:40 GMT

    Looking at playing XI I feel its Ind Vs SA in England.. but when it comes to coaching its Zimbawe VS Zimbawe.. One thing is for sure cricketers form many countries are involved here, even though its a bi-lateral series..!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY frommoonman on | July 19, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    Yes, Mr. Flower, Broad will be most accurate - with his ugly behavior...!

  • POSTED BY 9ST9 on | July 19, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    Broad is massively overhyped. eng vs india will showcase a lot of overhyped players and two largeley over rated teams.

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  • POSTED BY 9ST9 on | July 19, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    Broad is massively overhyped. eng vs india will showcase a lot of overhyped players and two largeley over rated teams.

  • POSTED BY frommoonman on | July 19, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    Yes, Mr. Flower, Broad will be most accurate - with his ugly behavior...!

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 6:40 GMT

    Looking at playing XI I feel its Ind Vs SA in England.. but when it comes to coaching its Zimbawe VS Zimbawe.. One thing is for sure cricketers form many countries are involved here, even though its a bi-lateral series..!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 6:43 GMT

    It should be a very good series. People who think, India can't perform in seaming and Bouncing conditions, don't have to jog their minds too far but just have to look at the series in SA late last year. But said that, England are high on confidence since their Ashes triumph, and have been trumpeting about being the best side etc. England's performance against Sri Lanka was anything but dominating, so was India's performance against WI. So, the duel is about to start now; ENG are expected to do well as they are playing at home and INDIA is expected to fight back as they are the No. 1 ....

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    Andy Flower stands out as a gentleman in this modern era when he is advising Broad to concentrate on his game rather than intimidating the opponents. As far as David Saker's statement of Broad being the best at bowling bouncers,well all I can say is Mr.Saker wake up from your dreams, welcome to the real world. There is no doubt Stuart is a good allrounder, but calling him the best enforcer is calling Munaf Patel the fastest bowler in the world.

  • POSTED BY kingcobra85 on | July 19, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    haha Stuart broad the enforcer ? its like saying "i know what charlie sheen is upto next"

  • POSTED BY Tom_Bowler on | July 19, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    I'm glad Flower has now added his voice to the multitude calling for Broad to pitch it up. Broad does bowl a mean bouncer but a short ball's value is as a surprise weapon, when the batsman expects three balls an over to be pitched in the bowler's half it's of little use. Also Broad's reaped his greatest rewards bowling full, I'm surprised a coaching team as good as Flower and Saker haven't reminded him of this a bit more forcefully until now. Broad has a lot of talent and I'm sure he will be a valuable player for England in the future but for now I wonder if he might be better off recalibrating his range with Notts, Bresnan is a more than handy replacement.

  • POSTED BY on | July 19, 2011, 7:51 GMT

    ENG will beat india 4-0........useless number one's.

  • POSTED BY Rocket_180 on | July 19, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    This just shows that England are going back to the old days of face fit selection, rather than picking the best XI

    England have loads of seamers that are all in form, bowling well and no what there doing when it comes to line and lenght, Bresnann,Finn,Onions etc.

    Yet England select an out of form bowler in Broad that really should be playing in county cricket for Notts and should look to come back in the winter tour when back firing as he is a quality bowler just not at the moment

    I really do hope that Flowers blindness faith in Broad pays off asEngland wont be able to carry a seamer when they only have 3 anyway

  • POSTED BY demon_bowler on | July 19, 2011, 8:01 GMT

    I wouldn't mind someone giving the Indian batsmen a good working over, though. Some of the younger ones are highly suspect against the short ball. I think Tremlett is the one to do this, not Broad.