England v India, 3rd ODI, Trent Bridge August 29, 2014

England seek limited-overs reboot

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Match facts

Saturday, August 30, 2014
Start time 10.30am local (0930 GMT)

Play 01:51
Hopps: England have bowling dilemma

Big Picture

There was a century from an Indian middle-order batsman to resuscitate an innings going astray. In reply, England's batting faltered. That only increased questions over Alastair Cook's captaincy. India went 1-0 up. England in disarray. We've been here before. The rigours of limited-overs cricket might pale to Tests, as MS Dhoni has often pointed out on this tour, but in a four-match series success hinges on the ability to harness advantages. England will know India haven't been outstanding in that department. And India will know England are still discovering their identity as an ODI side.

They are testing a new opening partnership, which in the last two years has produced only one century stand. Cook was part of that and has politely brushed aside the punches aimed at himself and his team through the summer. Occasionally he has thrown them back. But his words will ring hollow unless accompanied with examples on the field. Lately though, the ammunition is in the hands of their critics: West Indies had them 89 for 6 chasing 160 in March, Sri Lanka routed them for 99 in May, India had given them a shock at the Champions Trophy final and did it again in Cardiff. The visitors have England down, but how long can they maintain that?

Rohit Sharma, one of the more important variables in India's one-day formula, is out injured. The top three haven't managed the kind of foundations Dhoni prefers. The India captain likes his cogs in place. He likes a strong score on the board. He likes to come in late and hike the total further. He likes a couple of early wickets so his spinners can prey on uncertain batsmen. He knows how to work his individual resources to harmonise with each other, like an orchestra conductor. However, in the past five years, India have lost four series on the road and one of their two successes have been against Zimbabwe. Dhoni and his team would want to prove they have the requisite ruthlessness that comes with being world champions.

Form guide (last five completed matches, most recent first)

England LLLWL
India WWWWL

Players to watch

India's top order has often been stuck in the dressing room, watching their team-mates or their opponents cash in when the pitch eases out. None would know that rankle as much as Shikhar Dhawan. He sees the region outside his off stump as if it is poison. His feet are often splayed on leg stump with his hands leading away from him. When in form, he can be fluent through that very region but he needs to last beyond the early overs to rediscover that.

England might be reeling under the impression of being stolid, but in Eoin Morgan they have a batsman that can upset most bowling attacks. His range of strokes often goes beyond the textbook, unlike the top order's which has helped him average 55.50 in the Royal London One-Day Cup. He has Middlesex's lone century so far in the tournament so far and England will hope the seeds he sowed in the domestic circuit bear fruit for them too.

Team news

England's batting, if they can live up to potential, can offer challenge. But the composition of their bowling might be of greater concern. They have a left-arm seamer in Harry Gurney with the squad who could offer some variation.

England (probable) 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Alex Hales, 3 Ian Bell, 4 Joe Root, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Ben Stokes/ Moeen Ali, 7 Jos Buttler (wk), 8 Chris Woakes, 9 Chris Jordan/ Harry Gurney, 10 James Anderson, 11 James Tredwell

The loss of an opening batsman leaves India with little options. They have flown M Vijay back, but he hasn't arrived in England yet. The team management is likely to promote Ajinkya Rahane to open and employ Ambati Rayudu at No.4.

India (probable) 1 Shikhar Dhawan, 2 Ajinkya Rahane, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Ambati Rayudu/ Sanju Samson, 5 Suresh Raina, 6 MS Dhoni (capt & wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 Mohammed Shami, 11 Mohit Sharma

Pitch and conditions

Trent Bridge has plenty to make up for after the pitch for the opening Test was deemed poor. A chance to redress that comes with the added bonus that rain would be expected to play, at worst, a minimal part. The batsmen can expect a true deck, with Alex Hales, the hometown boy, bashing a century and overpowering a target of 303 last week.

Stats and trivia

  • James Anderson averages 19.37 at Trent Bridge, as compared to an overall figure of 28.91

  • India have only played four ODIs at Trent Bridge and have lost three of them. Their lone victory was against England in 1990

Quotes

"We still need to achieve a lot of goals, goals that we have set in team meetings. Hopefully we will do well in upcoming games."
Suresh Raina relays that India are keen to build on their work so far

"We're not hiding behind the fact it was a poor team performance all round but we spoke about it, wiped the slate clean and we've talked about our tactics and we're feeling fresh and confident heading into this game.''
Alex Hales and England are looking for a new start.

Alagappan Muthu is a sub-editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on August 31, 2014, 17:23 GMT

    Cook ,bell and Andersson should.not play one day cricket they are pure test players. Morgan should be made captain

  • 1st_april on August 30, 2014, 11:22 GMT

    @neil99 Agreed to an extent....but Bell is the player who can be the fulcrum of the batting allowing the likes of Buttler and Morgan to settle in and accelerate.

    Trott was also seen in the same galling light as Bell these days. If England want to go beyond the Q/F at the world cup, 1.Hales 2.Lumb 3.Bell(c) 4.Root 5.Morgan 6.Bopara 7.Buttler 8.Woakes 9.Tredwell 10.Anderson 11.Finn 12.Ali(swapped in for the odd SCG-esque pitch for Woakes)

  • bavarian on August 30, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    media here in India especially the local regional ones are so backward in the sector of sports they easily forget the humiliations happened/hav been happening in test series/serieses when winning the One day lasting game so pathetic. so I really wish England to win the rest of the matches in the series, so that Indians will bring the test series as well back to minds when the team comes back home and treat accordingly for the players to change their attitude and to ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE JUST SUB CONTINENT TRACK BULLIES and to behave accordingly,

  • neil99 on August 30, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    @ 1st April

    York-86 is 100% correct. Maybe Bell dawdling along with a SR of 76 is one of the main reasons England has underachieved? A top ODI side can not have 3-4 batsmen with SRs in the 70s. Granted, Cook too must go, but Root should be handed a few more games.

  • neil99 on August 30, 2014, 9:16 GMT

    Cook must stand down or be removed from the one day side immediately. Putting his LOI captaincy and batting limitations aside - which are immense - he can't possibly lead the team over the next 18 months in tests & LOIs with the most difficult schedule ahead in terms of quantity & quality of opposition. If Cooks to stay, he must be saved for test match cricket.

    It's a fine example of Cook, Moores & the ECB not understanding the bigger picture - but with a home series win under their belts to a very poor India side everything is just rosy. England are champions again. Champions of mediocrity.

  • on August 30, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    All the best 2 India 2 register a another historic win over English men side.

  • Patchmaster on August 30, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    I can't believe Cook and Bell are in this side, and Roy, Ballance etc are not selected. Utter madness.

  • on August 30, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    India may certainly be a weaker side overseas and even inexperienced but rank it with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe is a nice joke. In fact it is a good insult to the English team. A team of Zimbabwe's caliber(if you indeed insist upon it)defeated Eng at the Lords which is certainly a very shameful thing for a side that is certainly of the highest cricketing caliber. Now talking of ODI cricket, India certainly is doing a lot better than tests. But I think it is time Kohli and Dhawan start making more efforts, on field. England need to get out of the Test mode. They were brilliant there but now they need to adapt. It is similar for both the sides and both sides need to consider specialist teams for specific formats. Anyway they solve their problems, I hope they would do it soon as I am sure all the cricket fans are eager for a contest which we were denied first by India in tests and now by England in ODIs.

  • JG2704 on August 30, 2014, 8:37 GMT

    Aravind Sai Kuchibhotla - Re India - I don't think you need to do an awful lot with the SF side. Fielding is always an area where I feel India could improve upon but apart from that I wouldn't bother too much about a fast bowling all rounder for English conditions. They did well in the CT without one and guys like Jadeja seem to do well in SFs wherever. They need (if they want to succeed) to toughen up as far as tests are concerned. They have twice been a test up vs Eng and lost each series and I don't totally buy the inexperience thing - Kumar had 6 tests before this series and was by far your best player. And the last time you visited you had players from the previous era you mentioned and did worse. I wonder if it is more a mental thing than a technical thing as you started off this series ok and won your test on the greenest pitch where Eng won the toss...

  • JG2704 on August 30, 2014, 8:35 GMT

    @Aravind Sai Kuchibhotla on (August 30, 2014, 7:02 GMT) When you 1st started saying about Eng shouldn't be too happy about beating India in Eng I thought it would be one of those one sided rants but was pleasantly surprised to see a fairly balanced post.

    Re England - (one thing I'll correct you on) is that we are in the top 3 in tests right now although we need to show much more if we want to stay there and get closer to Aus and SA. The 3 Asian sides below are fairly similar in quality. I still wonder about Ali as a frontline spinner. We definitely need another spinner - maybe another 2 long term unless Ali has improved that much with the ball. Re ODIs - there are so many issues that it will take too long but in a nutshell I'd say we're too conservative with the bat , don't put enough emphasis on economy with the ball and all round too regimented

  • on August 31, 2014, 17:23 GMT

    Cook ,bell and Andersson should.not play one day cricket they are pure test players. Morgan should be made captain

  • 1st_april on August 30, 2014, 11:22 GMT

    @neil99 Agreed to an extent....but Bell is the player who can be the fulcrum of the batting allowing the likes of Buttler and Morgan to settle in and accelerate.

    Trott was also seen in the same galling light as Bell these days. If England want to go beyond the Q/F at the world cup, 1.Hales 2.Lumb 3.Bell(c) 4.Root 5.Morgan 6.Bopara 7.Buttler 8.Woakes 9.Tredwell 10.Anderson 11.Finn 12.Ali(swapped in for the odd SCG-esque pitch for Woakes)

  • bavarian on August 30, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    media here in India especially the local regional ones are so backward in the sector of sports they easily forget the humiliations happened/hav been happening in test series/serieses when winning the One day lasting game so pathetic. so I really wish England to win the rest of the matches in the series, so that Indians will bring the test series as well back to minds when the team comes back home and treat accordingly for the players to change their attitude and to ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE JUST SUB CONTINENT TRACK BULLIES and to behave accordingly,

  • neil99 on August 30, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    @ 1st April

    York-86 is 100% correct. Maybe Bell dawdling along with a SR of 76 is one of the main reasons England has underachieved? A top ODI side can not have 3-4 batsmen with SRs in the 70s. Granted, Cook too must go, but Root should be handed a few more games.

  • neil99 on August 30, 2014, 9:16 GMT

    Cook must stand down or be removed from the one day side immediately. Putting his LOI captaincy and batting limitations aside - which are immense - he can't possibly lead the team over the next 18 months in tests & LOIs with the most difficult schedule ahead in terms of quantity & quality of opposition. If Cooks to stay, he must be saved for test match cricket.

    It's a fine example of Cook, Moores & the ECB not understanding the bigger picture - but with a home series win under their belts to a very poor India side everything is just rosy. England are champions again. Champions of mediocrity.

  • on August 30, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    All the best 2 India 2 register a another historic win over English men side.

  • Patchmaster on August 30, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    I can't believe Cook and Bell are in this side, and Roy, Ballance etc are not selected. Utter madness.

  • on August 30, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    India may certainly be a weaker side overseas and even inexperienced but rank it with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe is a nice joke. In fact it is a good insult to the English team. A team of Zimbabwe's caliber(if you indeed insist upon it)defeated Eng at the Lords which is certainly a very shameful thing for a side that is certainly of the highest cricketing caliber. Now talking of ODI cricket, India certainly is doing a lot better than tests. But I think it is time Kohli and Dhawan start making more efforts, on field. England need to get out of the Test mode. They were brilliant there but now they need to adapt. It is similar for both the sides and both sides need to consider specialist teams for specific formats. Anyway they solve their problems, I hope they would do it soon as I am sure all the cricket fans are eager for a contest which we were denied first by India in tests and now by England in ODIs.

  • JG2704 on August 30, 2014, 8:37 GMT

    Aravind Sai Kuchibhotla - Re India - I don't think you need to do an awful lot with the SF side. Fielding is always an area where I feel India could improve upon but apart from that I wouldn't bother too much about a fast bowling all rounder for English conditions. They did well in the CT without one and guys like Jadeja seem to do well in SFs wherever. They need (if they want to succeed) to toughen up as far as tests are concerned. They have twice been a test up vs Eng and lost each series and I don't totally buy the inexperience thing - Kumar had 6 tests before this series and was by far your best player. And the last time you visited you had players from the previous era you mentioned and did worse. I wonder if it is more a mental thing than a technical thing as you started off this series ok and won your test on the greenest pitch where Eng won the toss...

  • JG2704 on August 30, 2014, 8:35 GMT

    @Aravind Sai Kuchibhotla on (August 30, 2014, 7:02 GMT) When you 1st started saying about Eng shouldn't be too happy about beating India in Eng I thought it would be one of those one sided rants but was pleasantly surprised to see a fairly balanced post.

    Re England - (one thing I'll correct you on) is that we are in the top 3 in tests right now although we need to show much more if we want to stay there and get closer to Aus and SA. The 3 Asian sides below are fairly similar in quality. I still wonder about Ali as a frontline spinner. We definitely need another spinner - maybe another 2 long term unless Ali has improved that much with the ball. Re ODIs - there are so many issues that it will take too long but in a nutshell I'd say we're too conservative with the bat , don't put enough emphasis on economy with the ball and all round too regimented

  • thekingcobra on August 30, 2014, 8:07 GMT

    Bring in Sanju Samson he was excellent for india A.

  • on August 30, 2014, 7:57 GMT

    Let Rahane and Dhavan open the innings, bring Sanju in theth position, so that Dhoni can be free from Wicket keeping and enjoy his batting and Captaincy.

  • on August 30, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    i think in today game it is right time to hand debut to Sanju Samsun,guy has the potential to stay at the crease and if needed score with strike about 150 which i think Raydu is not capable, anjikey is also a slow starter than who will play role of finisher apart from Dhoni,if DHONI fails nd even we play our full quota of overs we wl be restricted under 250 if we bat first ,if we bat 2nd if we have to chase more than 270 then it will be almost imposible for us to chase,so give chance to Samsun instead of Raydu to create real possibility.

  • on August 30, 2014, 7:02 GMT

    For India, First, They are fine with Jadeja and Ashwin at 7 and 8 for Asian pitch conditions. They need to develop fast bowling allrounders to compte in WC 2015 which England are concetrating at present. It might not be giving England fruits at this point of time, but definitely it will help them in WC 2015. India has won second ODI with the help of in form players: Raina and Dhoni. Suppose, If both of them fail in one match, India but crumble down. Kohli, the prime batsman for India is out of form. Rahane plays well but has few loose shots so kind of 40+ scopre guy. Dhawan is out of form and has many loose shots and can't succeed in tough conditions. Same with Rohit. He has good technique which everyone agree but similarly has many loose shots which can't be separated from his technique. So, Rohit is not at all a international material. Second, If India want to retain the WC, they should immediately start concentrating on fast bowling allrounders. Rishi Dhawan,Irafn are few names.

  • on August 30, 2014, 6:56 GMT

    There are couple of things India and England including their supporters has to understand:

    First, England should not feel ecstatic about their victory against India in test matches. In those conditions(England pitch conditions), India would stand at 9th position in rankings below Zimbabwe and just above Bangladesh. So, Winning against such a low ranked side in those conditions should not be taken seriously. Second, India team is with completely youngsters after the era of Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman, Sehwag and Zaheer. They are just on baby steps in those conditions. So, getting a wicket against such a young team should not be taken seriously. England need to improve in many areas if they want to reach top three positions in Test matches.

    continued in next post...

  • on August 30, 2014, 6:42 GMT

    I bet England will win 3 games in a row similar like tests..ind has a bad habit they won't continue their winning momentum...so its 3-1..

  • duniya_dilwale on August 30, 2014, 6:07 GMT

    sanju samson should get chance and my playing xi is

    1] samson 2] dhawan 3] rahane 4] virat 5] raina 6] dhoni 7] jadeja 8] ashwin 9] b. kumar 10] shami 11] mohit sharma

    just one change in place of rohit come in samson as a opener and 3] rahane then virat get virat to think his game if good situation he can give india big total

  • SudeepSonawane on August 30, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    Agree with Chetan Asher. Ashwin has great potential to develop into a proper middle order batsman in Tests. The contingency arising from Rohit's injury should be used to check out Ashwin's potential as a pinch hitter at No 2 in ODIs. His first class background of opening the batting should help. He is an asset. He needs to focus more on his bowling and banish that silly thing called carom ball. Shane Warne is right when he says "Ashwin has habit of bowling one hit-me-ball per over.

  • Fahim_Bd_1998 on August 30, 2014, 5:48 GMT

    Good luck for England :)

    Hope they'll win

  • on August 30, 2014, 5:33 GMT

    Where is binny? he may picked for the next ODI. and Uthappa is better replacement than Vijay.

  • SUJUPAWAN on August 30, 2014, 5:29 GMT

    I think india should play this playing XI for 3rd ODI vs england, dhavan, rahane, kohli, samson, raina, dhoni, jadeja, ashwin, shami, bhuwaneshwar, mohit, samson should be in playing Xi for future of india, bcoz after sometime world cup coming

  • on August 30, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    shikhar dhawan should be rested and samson should open with rahane,that will give a new opening pair. rayadu at no.4 will be appropriate. hope for the best team.

  • Abbas67 on August 30, 2014, 4:47 GMT

    India should really consider Samson in 2015 plans, I cant see Dhavan playing in Australia, so better make Samson use to the playing XI ... The playing XI for second ODI should be : Rahane Dhavan Kohli Samson Raina Dhoni Jadeja Ashwin Shami Yadav Kulkarni ... This might be the last chance for Dhavan !

  • on August 30, 2014, 4:45 GMT

    @Gaurav, thanks for calling out my memory lapse, I would still stick to my line of Ashwin opening - Under English conditions, with the kind of bowling England is putting up, we do not need someone who can hit the cover off the ball at the top of the order - what we need is someone who (maybe like a night watchman) can play out the first 10 / 12 overs when the ball is doing a bit & Anderson is fresh. Once that phase is gone without too much damage to the batting, as we saw in the last game - India have the fire-power to make up for lost time with an extremely high strike rate. If Samson for Dhawan is too much of a gamble, let Dhawan come in at 3 / 4, move Kohli down a bit, who knows - something might click in his head and then ......

  • vasanthsowmi on August 30, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    give the chance to sanju samson, he is a real hero.. give the chance to samson at 4

  • MANI_DHONI on August 30, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Raina was amazing in the last match... Keep going buddy... I think Sanju is young and emerging player today's match.. he will be the better choice than Rayudu... Vijay may be considered if he is fit enough physically... Love to see England being whitewashed...

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 30, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    For me Rayudu is the best bet against Samson.This kid is not ready for international cricket although he did well for India A.This kid had a lot of nervous in the practice match and even during the nets.Rayudu on the other hand is some what experienced is the best option for No.4.

    Mohammed Shami should learn to bowl on the off-stump line.He regularly bowls leg-side lollipops which is a worrying factor.He was lucky in the last match because England batsmen didn't capitalize his weakness.

  • _-Will-_ on August 30, 2014, 3:36 GMT

    @salil247 on (August 30, 2014, 2:28 GMT) wrote, "...there are obviously MANY factors involved, but you can't just choose ANY ONE factor to further your opinion. If one has to be fair, one has to choose the MAIN factor for the win or loss." So people shouldn't choose one factor, but should choose the main factor - isn't that the same as choosing just one factor? I suppose it's a subjective issue, eg: many former cricketers of high repute pinpointed Dhoni's lack of tactical acumen and uninspiring attitude as the main cause for India's poor away test performances. There were other factors but this stood out to certain wise observers.

    My opinion is that Cook is not suited to ODIs and Dhoni is not suited to tests. Each has earned their stripes in a particular format and, unlike AB DeVilliers for example, neither can change gears to suit different formats. Surely it would benefit any team to have a captain that fully understands the nuances of & has the aptitude for the relevant format?

  • on August 30, 2014, 3:30 GMT

    As far as i understand dhoni predictable tactics he will be playing rahane as opener and play rayudu in middle order.Sanju samson wont be picked because rayudu has advantages of more international experience. ODIs 13 11 3 261 63* 32.62 393 66.41 0 2 18 3 2 0

    Not a bad form compared to rohit in middle order in his first 20 matches. Rayudu had a good Australia A series too.

  • on August 30, 2014, 3:28 GMT

    sanju samson is still not ready to play in overseas confitions and needs more time with the senior team to learn the tricks of the trade, in all probability rayudu will be playing in 3 odi

  • vinay224 on August 30, 2014, 3:26 GMT

    If Dhoni wins today, he'll become the most successful ODI captain of India, equalling Md.Azharuddin with 90 wins.

  • on August 30, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    India should give rest to B.Kumar and take Umesh /varun in the side. He has been playing continously since test series.

    I would suggest for opening, Murali Vijay

  • on August 30, 2014, 3:02 GMT

    I think, we should Ajinkya Rahane not disturb , he has resolved the problem of no 4. He has to focus on middle order.

  • salil247 on August 30, 2014, 2:28 GMT

    @anilkp- Spot on. You wonderfully articulated my thoughts. One ODI lost, and that too because of poor batting by England, and woah! Stand back! It's Cook's captaincy to blame here! Just like it was Dhoni's captaincy to blame for the Indian batsmen consistently making T20 scores in Test Matches! The fact is, in a team's win or loss, there are obviously MANY factors involved, but you can't just choose ANY ONE factor to further your opinion. If one has to be fair, one has to choose the MAIN factor for the win or loss.

  • on August 30, 2014, 2:26 GMT

    World XI: 1.Shewag/Uthappa 2.Vohra 3.Virat 4.Samson 5.Yuvi 6.Raina 7.Dhoni 8.Karan/Jadaja 9.Bhuvi 10.Aron/Shami 11.Mohit/Yadob

  • D-Coach on August 30, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    1 M.Vijay, 2 Ajinkya Rahane, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Suresh Raina, 5 Sanju Samson, 6 MS Dhoni (capt & wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 S Binny, 9 K Sharma, 10 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 11 U Yadhav / Mohit Sharma / Mohammed Shami / D Kulkarni

  • on August 30, 2014, 0:58 GMT

    Common Dhoni take a rest in keeping , give a chance to Sanju Samson to bat and keep the wicket, so that Dhoni can concentrate on his batting and captaincy , may be Dhoni's bowling too

  • Sexysteven on August 30, 2014, 0:51 GMT

    Yes I think that would be a solid team for England if gurney and Ali come in abit of variation n the bowling attack and afew attacking batsmen like hales Morgan bell root to compliment the nudgers like Cook Ali now all they have to do is perform the only really worry for them in both formats is cooks captaincy that will always be Abig worry for England fans while he's captain not agood captain even when they do win

  • on August 30, 2014, 0:49 GMT

    Sanju Samson is the best to fill that one batsman slot in the 3rd ODI

  • on August 30, 2014, 0:39 GMT

    In the 2 tests Dhoni gave a chance to old Pankaj Singh ahead of better young bowler Eswar Pandaey, that was a blunder, hopefully he will correct it this time in the 3rd ODI that giving opportunity to play young talented SANJU SAMSON

  • GMathews on August 30, 2014, 0:30 GMT

    Sanju samson must get a chance to play in the 3rd ODI, he is the best in the middle order, in form and young, always current in form players need to get chance.

  • on August 30, 2014, 0:00 GMT

    If you win, you need not have to explain. As I said earlier India are the defending champions and they will play like a champion in trent bridge as well. They proved in Cardiff and they will prove in this series too. Was shocked to see people(Indians) moan about India. Even In cricinfo after the toss(cardiff Match) I can see comments why Raina why Jadeja? I'm saying one thing to everyone who moans about India,"everyone plays to win only". Everyone gets a bad day , be positive and enjoy the victory or don't get disappointed if we loss as well. Its just a game.

  • on August 29, 2014, 23:39 GMT

    India should not be overconfident now after their victory at cardiff. I wish shikar diwan should be replaced by Rayadu and sanju should play and bat at no.3 and kohili should bat lower in the order. R sridhar, Bangalore

  • TeamSelector on August 29, 2014, 23:04 GMT

    Why is Virat Kohli still in the playing eleven??? The guy is a walking wicket ...

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:24 GMT

    why cant they make Sanju Samson play in opening slot? he has played in top 3 spots in IPL.. and can not be any worst than dhawan/rohit's recent performance.. let poor Rahane settle at 4th place..

  • ramz30380 on August 29, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    @Jeevan Kulkarni - Why this sour grapes theory abt MSD & his CSK mates?! Remember he backed Rohit when he was a No-hit & as far as my knowledge goes, Rohit has never been part of the CSK squad! Grow up man!

    Mohit Sharma has done well and selects himself! Yadav can come in only for Shami. Shami did well, so der is no point in discussing Yadav's return. He shud've been in the test squad unfortunate tht he wasnt selected.

    MSD backs talent and his instinct thts all! Its not abt backing his franchise mates! Remember he backed Kohli & Pujara inspite of repeated failures!

    I wud love to see Samson in action - nothing wrong in giving the young man a chance - if he clicks it will be a huge bonus. Also he is a very good fielder - cant say so abt Rayudu!

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:15 GMT

    @anilkp, you said it! That is the fact

  • sumitode on August 29, 2014, 21:46 GMT

    What India's World Cup Lineup Should Be: ( / = backup) R. Utthapa/M. Vijay A. Rahane/S. Dhawan R. Sharma/C. Pujara V. Kohli/A. Rayadu S. Raina/M.Tiwary (so underrated) M. Dhoni/W. Saha R. Jadeja/A. Patel R. Ashwin/K.Sharma B. Kumar/R. Dhawan (pace all-rounder, India don't have many, and Kumar is an allrounder) M. Sharma/M. Shami U. Yadav/Aaron

    What this youthful Indian lineup has recently lacked is consistent, fluid batting from the top order. R.Sharma should be moved down to No. 3 because I think we would be good in a slower role while Rahane and Utthapa are both batsmen that can easily score a run a ball and play well in the Powerplay.

    The one thing I dislike is people pushing for Samson to play... he hasn't even score a List A century yet. Saha is definitely a good fill-in if Dhoni were to get injured.

  • on August 29, 2014, 21:39 GMT

    get mooen in for stokes and Finn for Jordan

  • neil99 on August 29, 2014, 21:36 GMT

    England are going absolutely nowhere with Cook & Bell - strike rates of 77 and 76 respectively - completely proves England's lack of understanding of the modern one day game.

  • on August 29, 2014, 20:46 GMT

    India XI : Rahane,Samson, Kholi,Rayudu, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja,Ashwin, B kumar, Shami,umesh yadav

  • landl47 on August 29, 2014, 20:44 GMT

    I think England has to replace Jordan for this match (when a bowler delivers 12 overs in an ODI, two of them made up of wides, you know he has a problem), but that might be the only change. Woakes bowled well, as did Tredwell; it's hard to think that both Finn and Gurney will be in the side, so Stokes probably keeps his place.

    Ballance played well against Durham a couple of days ago, but as long as England are wedded to the idea of Cook and Bell in the top 3 it's difficult to see where he would fit in. A daring choice would be Moeen to replace Stokes, but that means a minimum of 20 overs of spin and it's hard to imagine England thinking that far outside the box.

    England might win this game; they have come back well from defeats before. However, when you look at what's going on in Zimbabwe, England doesn't seem to be anywhere near finding an XI to challenge for the WC.

    Rohit's injury is bad luck for India- he set up the game for Raina and Dhoni in the first ODI.

  • rk_ks on August 29, 2014, 20:42 GMT

    India is going to lose very badly and our team is known for bringing out of form teams/players into form. This is the best chance for England to gain form before world cup. And without Rohit Sharma, who will score in the top order. Dhawan. Not really. And if you put a new player, he might not score as he is playing his first match in the series and takes time to adjust. Then our middle order, since Raina scored a century he will be relaxed for next 10 games. And Rahane ODI record is very poor.Except Dhoni, I don't see anyone scoring. Our batting lineup is always vulnerable. Until we develop bowlers who can take wickets we are not going to be world class.

  • on August 29, 2014, 20:36 GMT

    Moeen for stokes would be good change but I feel we need Finn in somehow

  • JG2704 on August 29, 2014, 20:30 GMT

    @yorkshire-86 on (August 29, 2014, 16:47 GMT) In the last 2 series he played in Bell has done as well as pretty much anyone. Bell is a Jeckyll and Hyde character. Sometimes he looks scratchy and totally lacking in confidence and sometimes he looks to express himself. This year I've seen more of the latter in SFs and if he bats in that manner I like him in the side. If he reverts back to the other version get him out of there

    @CricketGuru89 on (August 29, 2014, 19:04 GMT) Please explain what you've seen of Ballance in ODIs that makes you think he should play and Bell not? In the 2 series both have played in Bell has a significantly better ave and SR. Also why not a 2nd slower/spin option instead of Woakes/Stokes?

  • JG2704 on August 29, 2014, 20:17 GMT

    If Ali displaces Stokes and bats at 7 and Gurney displaces Jordan it's probably as good a side as we can pick from this squad. I'd probably bring Finn in for Jimmy , purely because I feel Jimmy could be close to burnout - he'll probably take 5 for now I've said that

  • on August 29, 2014, 19:53 GMT

    "India were authoritative at Cardiff, but can they keep up the intensity?". That's the question or will the ODI's also follow the same pattern as in the Tests. First test was drawn-first ODI was washed out. Second test was won convincingly by India-second ODI idem. What about 3rd 4th and 5th ODI's? Will India surrender the advantage again? Bad to worse to worst? Is there going to be another Anderson/ Indian player (Kohli perhaps this time) saga? Will the umpiring decisions go against India at crucial moments for the remaining ODI's? Big question marks!! What this talented young Indian team must understand is that almost won is not won, that when you are ahead, you have got to stay ahead (consistently) and the earlier they realise this, the sooner they will hit the jackpot. Let's hope to see good competitive cricket from both sides in the remaining ODI's.

  • on August 29, 2014, 19:41 GMT

    England XI should be Roy,Hales,Taylor,Root,Morgan,Moeen,Buttler,Jordan/Woakes,Finn,Jimmy,Tredwell

  • anilkp on August 29, 2014, 19:24 GMT

    Alagappan: Why must England's faltering in the 2nd ODI raise questions about Cook's captaincy? Why cannot you journos and other pundits wait a bit and watch? After the first two Tests in the tour everyone was baying for Cook's head. The same Cook was hailed overnight as one of the greatest leaders soon after the 3rd Test; that appreciation continued until this 2nd ODI, when Cook is back to seeing his head demanded. What madness is this? You guys were hailing the Indian Test team and Ishant after the 2nd Test, and must have felt embarrassed over collective ineptitude during the next three matches. Come on, let's learn from our experiences. Greatness does not come overnight, nor does it disappear overnight. We are talking about a professional sport that involves 22 on-field players. Add physical parameters, and you have endless possibilities. Why can't we wait, watch, and take results as they come, and enjoy?

  • vj3478 on August 29, 2014, 19:16 GMT

    Lucky Dhawan! again saved from BCCI not selecting an xtra opener and with rohit injured we can continue watching his telephone-directory-scores! Hope Rahane shines and will be back as an opener and rayudu/samson can play in the middle order. And Rohit should be fit to play again and ohh Dear so many things should happen to drop Dhawan. Even if everything goes as above, we still have Dhoni who seems to be pretty enticed by Dhawan's mustache(coz its like that of Jadeja's?).

  • Cricket.Guru on August 29, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    Cook and Bell is not good enough for the limited over cricket.. They should replace with J Roy & G Ballance.. I am not sure about Morgan as well.. He looks like a very average player and J Taylor should replace him.. Stokes, Woakes and Jorden are very similar to each other... My playing eleven is 1.Hales 2.Roy 3.Root 4.Taylor 5.Ballance 6.Buttler 7.Stokes/Woakes 8.Gurney 9.Finn 10.Anderson 11. Tredwell ... when Broad will be fit he is in for Gurney's place and lead the team as well.. J Taylor will be the vice captain ... I think this is the best eleven for the World Cup...

  • Collegefastbowler on August 29, 2014, 18:45 GMT

    Play Umesh Yadav and make the English batsmen hop.

  • on August 29, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    England never have had an attacking answer to spin. They can handle it where runs are not a pressure, as soon as they need to take 6 or more an over off spin - they fail. They always have as far as I can remember (30 odd years). English batters do not face proper spinners In limited over games of any kind domestically. They have no attacking options against spin. Domestically in short form cricket they face low arm "dart throwers"- not spinners

  • on August 29, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    @Chetan Asher: Ashwin started his under 19 career as an opener. He played at number 9 in his very 1st first class & list A match. He is a good test batsman but not a good ODI batter, at least as an opener.

  • on August 29, 2014, 18:19 GMT

    Whatever makes you think Umesh Yadav's gonna get a game? Mohit Sharma will stay. Dhoni won't let his CSK teammates go that easy...

  • cricchanel.com on August 29, 2014, 18:16 GMT

    India has found a new gear in limited over Cricket and they used it to win the 2nd ODI against England with 133 runs. They are looking ahead on series win to find some respect in the tour of England 2014. There are much good news to India including the batting informs, bowling informs and some new lot of palyers reached to gear up ODI cricket. But one very sad news before the 3rd ODI is the injury of Rohit Shamra which ruled him out of reaming matched and series. Rohit Sharma is one of the most competent players in India's one-day Team and a very good attacking top order batsman

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on August 29, 2014, 18:11 GMT

    Young sanju samson will debut tommorow and will be in the headlines day after tommorow #legendinthemaking

  • on August 29, 2014, 17:52 GMT

    Calling Vijay as replacement to Rohit is a retrograde step by India. Vijay survived in Test matches by leaving as many balls as possible which is not possible with ODI's. Pure retroragde step. Instead they should have called Kedar Jhadav a pure ODI/T20 batsman with strike rate of above 100 in ODI's and career avg of aroung 48 in ODI's. I guess this decision might belong to Dhoni,a defensive captain. India is going to loose very badly in WC 2015 if they continue to take similar steps.

  • on August 29, 2014, 17:46 GMT

    With Dhawan not getting too many runs, if I was Dhoni, I would gamble a bit -Rahane, Ashwin, Rayadu, Raina, Kohli, Samson, Dhoni, Jadeja, Bhuvi, Shami & Mohit. If memory serves me right, Ashwin did start his 1st class career as an opener for Tamil Nadu.

  • whirlaway on August 29, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    @Siddarth Kharel: Good point. Openers have the task of putting a good foundation on which the others can build. It makes little sense to worry about strike rate unless it is consistently below 80 or 70. Case in point, When Aus scored 434/4 against SA, one of the openers scored 79 at a strike rate below 100 and the majority of the balls he faced were dot balls! But it didn't prevent his team from setting a new record for an innings total, did it?

  • WellwisherINDIA on August 29, 2014, 17:13 GMT

    seems Rahane is going to open with Dhavan, 100% in form batsman young Sanju Samson must get a chance to play in the middle order ahead of Rayidu, if India realy looking in to 2015 world cup squad

  • on August 29, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    VK is gonna be back in form this match and show his class

  • 1st_april on August 29, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    @yorkshire-86 your tirade against Bell is baffling, a few more runs and he will be England's all time ODI scorer......and his S/R is not too bad either, it is the rather tacky nature of the batsmen around him that causes the concern...Cook and Root are no in the same class, at least in the coloured clothing

    But our ODI side is truly dreadful, a battling lineup which wont be backed to overhaul 300+ in any conditions, the bowling is a curate's egg.

  • glen1 on August 29, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    Hopefully, this is not a repeat horror show of the test series, where one Sharma is injured after a solid win, and England and Cook recover completely, and India slides to oblivion. I wouldn't think so, as India is really a good ODI team, but still Rohit's fifty was very important.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 29, 2014, 17:03 GMT

    Forecast for tomorrow is predominantly dry, but quite breezy and cloudy and probably feeling quite humid. Highs of 18-19 degrees C.

    I want to see Gurney (and maybe Finn-knee as well) in for England, at the expense of Stokes (and Jordan if Finn-knee gets the nod). Yes that potentially dents the batting, but seriously... numbers 8-11 should be there for their bowling only, and if we're having to rely on significant runs from number 7 then surely that just proves the batting order is pants! Obviously need a massively improved performance from the batsmen this game. Another loss and we might have Vaughan, Swann and Boycott out there singing "I believe that children are our future... get Cook and Bell out, and pray that Broad can quickly remove his suture..."

  • on August 29, 2014, 17:00 GMT

    it was very easy to raise finger at rohit sharma about his strike rate .it is very tough to open the batting in foreign condition. first 10 overs you must not loose wicket, once you loose wicket early than there chances of collapse in foreign condition. India must be very careful. Rohit sharma was giving very good start. Now lets see if team can manage to do better.

  • whirlaway on August 29, 2014, 16:53 GMT

    It is a good gamble to have Moeen Ali as the fifth bowler. The Indian batsmen could try to settle some old scores with him and possibly play strokes that they will regret later at leisure!

  • yorkshire-86 on August 29, 2014, 16:47 GMT

    Very ordinary looking England side. Playing with Bell is like playing with ten men - he cannot hit length, never scores unless cook does too and always folds under pressure. Stokes and Woakes look nowhere near good enough,Stokes is still getting his place off two lucky knocks in Oz (despite getting more ducks than scores in all formats since) and looks plain with the ball, while Woakes got a few wickets through no skill of his own (poor shot choice by the Indians) and has done nothing with the bat too. The alternative mooted was Ali, who looks dire with the bat and dreadful with the ball. We need Bopara, Bairstow, Onions and Finn back. The batsmen should be the ones to get the runs quickly, not just pat back the first 40 for 150 then rely on the bowlers to score another 150 off the last 10! And please no 'two new balls' nonsence, openers have always faced new balls even pinch hitters, while the likes of Bell are normally hidden down the order in Tests to keep him *away* from new balls!

  • on August 29, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    India has best chance to prove that they can play relatively good cricket outside sub continent. Raina has fuelled new vigour in the Indian unit and bowlers are clicking as well. Helpless England seem to prove swanny's remarks to be true. They just can't win with this team.

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  • on August 29, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    India has best chance to prove that they can play relatively good cricket outside sub continent. Raina has fuelled new vigour in the Indian unit and bowlers are clicking as well. Helpless England seem to prove swanny's remarks to be true. They just can't win with this team.

  • yorkshire-86 on August 29, 2014, 16:47 GMT

    Very ordinary looking England side. Playing with Bell is like playing with ten men - he cannot hit length, never scores unless cook does too and always folds under pressure. Stokes and Woakes look nowhere near good enough,Stokes is still getting his place off two lucky knocks in Oz (despite getting more ducks than scores in all formats since) and looks plain with the ball, while Woakes got a few wickets through no skill of his own (poor shot choice by the Indians) and has done nothing with the bat too. The alternative mooted was Ali, who looks dire with the bat and dreadful with the ball. We need Bopara, Bairstow, Onions and Finn back. The batsmen should be the ones to get the runs quickly, not just pat back the first 40 for 150 then rely on the bowlers to score another 150 off the last 10! And please no 'two new balls' nonsence, openers have always faced new balls even pinch hitters, while the likes of Bell are normally hidden down the order in Tests to keep him *away* from new balls!

  • whirlaway on August 29, 2014, 16:53 GMT

    It is a good gamble to have Moeen Ali as the fifth bowler. The Indian batsmen could try to settle some old scores with him and possibly play strokes that they will regret later at leisure!

  • on August 29, 2014, 17:00 GMT

    it was very easy to raise finger at rohit sharma about his strike rate .it is very tough to open the batting in foreign condition. first 10 overs you must not loose wicket, once you loose wicket early than there chances of collapse in foreign condition. India must be very careful. Rohit sharma was giving very good start. Now lets see if team can manage to do better.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 29, 2014, 17:03 GMT

    Forecast for tomorrow is predominantly dry, but quite breezy and cloudy and probably feeling quite humid. Highs of 18-19 degrees C.

    I want to see Gurney (and maybe Finn-knee as well) in for England, at the expense of Stokes (and Jordan if Finn-knee gets the nod). Yes that potentially dents the batting, but seriously... numbers 8-11 should be there for their bowling only, and if we're having to rely on significant runs from number 7 then surely that just proves the batting order is pants! Obviously need a massively improved performance from the batsmen this game. Another loss and we might have Vaughan, Swann and Boycott out there singing "I believe that children are our future... get Cook and Bell out, and pray that Broad can quickly remove his suture..."

  • glen1 on August 29, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    Hopefully, this is not a repeat horror show of the test series, where one Sharma is injured after a solid win, and England and Cook recover completely, and India slides to oblivion. I wouldn't think so, as India is really a good ODI team, but still Rohit's fifty was very important.

  • 1st_april on August 29, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    @yorkshire-86 your tirade against Bell is baffling, a few more runs and he will be England's all time ODI scorer......and his S/R is not too bad either, it is the rather tacky nature of the batsmen around him that causes the concern...Cook and Root are no in the same class, at least in the coloured clothing

    But our ODI side is truly dreadful, a battling lineup which wont be backed to overhaul 300+ in any conditions, the bowling is a curate's egg.

  • on August 29, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    VK is gonna be back in form this match and show his class

  • WellwisherINDIA on August 29, 2014, 17:13 GMT

    seems Rahane is going to open with Dhavan, 100% in form batsman young Sanju Samson must get a chance to play in the middle order ahead of Rayidu, if India realy looking in to 2015 world cup squad

  • whirlaway on August 29, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    @Siddarth Kharel: Good point. Openers have the task of putting a good foundation on which the others can build. It makes little sense to worry about strike rate unless it is consistently below 80 or 70. Case in point, When Aus scored 434/4 against SA, one of the openers scored 79 at a strike rate below 100 and the majority of the balls he faced were dot balls! But it didn't prevent his team from setting a new record for an innings total, did it?