India news December 15, 2010

Family may keep Kirsten from renewing contract - Dhoni

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MS Dhoni has said that the distance from his family might prevent Gary Kirsten, India's coach, from renewing his contract once it runs out after the 2011 World Cup. "Of course," Dhoni said when asked if India were trying to do everything within their powers to make Kirsten stay. "But what you also need to see is he has been part of the Indian cricket team for the last three years. His family - Joshua is a growing kid right now and James is a young kid too [both Kirsten's sons] - which means Gary wants to spend time with his family. That will be the most crucial thing apart from the money aspect.

"He has given [the Indian team] whatever he could, the best he could, and of course it was a pleasure to have him in the side, but then again it is a decision he will have to take. More than the cricketing part, it will be his family that will have a real impact on the decision."

Dhoni said there haven't yet been discussions with Kirsten about extending his contract because the team is focused on the South Africa tour and the World Cup. "It's a discussion that will take place. We will wait for the right time. After this series we have the World Cup coming, which means he still has close to two, two-and-a-half months with us. We will try to get the most out of him, but at the same time, as I always say, it will be a pleasure to have him for another three years."

Dhoni reiterated Kirsten's value to the team over the course of his tenure as coach. "I have always said that he is one of the greatest things to have happened to Indian cricket apart from the talented cricketers we have got. Throughout he has been away from the media, he just concentrates on the work he needs to do. We have had a great time under him. It is an advantage to have him in the side."

Kirsten joined India after the acrimonious tour of Australia in 2007-08, and under him India have completed their ascent to No. 1 Test ranking, lost just one Test series, and are going into the World Cup as one of the favourites. His behind-the-scenes-yet-hands-on style has been appreciated by the Indian players, who have taken every opportunity to thank him.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at Cricinfo

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  • on December 17, 2010, 7:47 GMT

    I propose this coches ....s.fleming,tommoody,mikyarthur

  • Baundele on December 17, 2010, 7:00 GMT

    How about taking Jamie Siddons? His contract with Bangladesh ends by the world cup.

  • anver777 on December 17, 2010, 6:51 GMT

    If Gary " KIRST"en leaves, then its gonna be somebody's "CURSE" for Indian cricket.... He's one of the main man behind Indian team's success today & to maintain the current no.1 position in tests i think India need to keep him for few more years...... why not offer him an Indian citizenship so that he can stay with his family in India !!!!!

  • on December 16, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    I foresee a huge online activism or requests to keep kirsten in india, especially if India wins the WC.Gary is the one who should have a final say and it should be respected and appreciated.He has done a great job with the team.Salute!

  • stormy16 on December 16, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    Gary Kirsten has done amazing things to an amazingly talented bunch of guys and all credit to Gary but surely he will have to be South Africa's next coach. Obviously family comes first and honestly to be discussing Gary and his family's future on a forum is not on. From a cricketing point of view I am sure Gary would want to go back home and coach his own country which surely is the top prize for any cricketer after playing at the highest level. If I were South Africa I would be making plans for coaching team comprising Gary Kirsten, Keppler Wessles and Allan Donald.

  • DINESHCC on December 16, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    my next choice DAV WHATMORE

  • Vijay_MatchWinner on December 16, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    Superb coach to have around, away from media, talk less work more natured guy. Gary has been one of the reasons for this achievement of Team India! Good luck Gary for the future :)

  • ashish514 on December 16, 2010, 11:22 GMT

    I don't know why have India been so successful with the foreign coaches, but records clearly suggest that. I think they provide the balancing force to Indian players' laid back, no fuss approach with their disciplined, practice-hard approach. Chappell tried to impose this approach on Indians, while Wright and Kirsten complemented their approach with that of Indians'. Thus,if Gary resigns at all, I think another foreign coach should come. It is a necessary but not sufficient condition for India's success.

  • svalson on December 16, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    Stay Gary Stay! A billion-plus people hoping that you do.

  • iamsean on December 16, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    Gary was one of the best things to happen for India after John Wright...BCCI should quickly start their hunt for a new coach...I think looking at current coaches Stephen Fleming would fit the role the best..He would definitely be a big asset to the Indian team....after all he is an apt man to replace Gary as a an Opening batsman and as a Coach....he has done a wonderful job with CSK and has a good rapport with M S Dhoni...& i m sure it would do wonders for Indian Cricket to have him in as a Coach....

  • on December 17, 2010, 7:47 GMT

    I propose this coches ....s.fleming,tommoody,mikyarthur

  • Baundele on December 17, 2010, 7:00 GMT

    How about taking Jamie Siddons? His contract with Bangladesh ends by the world cup.

  • anver777 on December 17, 2010, 6:51 GMT

    If Gary " KIRST"en leaves, then its gonna be somebody's "CURSE" for Indian cricket.... He's one of the main man behind Indian team's success today & to maintain the current no.1 position in tests i think India need to keep him for few more years...... why not offer him an Indian citizenship so that he can stay with his family in India !!!!!

  • on December 16, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    I foresee a huge online activism or requests to keep kirsten in india, especially if India wins the WC.Gary is the one who should have a final say and it should be respected and appreciated.He has done a great job with the team.Salute!

  • stormy16 on December 16, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    Gary Kirsten has done amazing things to an amazingly talented bunch of guys and all credit to Gary but surely he will have to be South Africa's next coach. Obviously family comes first and honestly to be discussing Gary and his family's future on a forum is not on. From a cricketing point of view I am sure Gary would want to go back home and coach his own country which surely is the top prize for any cricketer after playing at the highest level. If I were South Africa I would be making plans for coaching team comprising Gary Kirsten, Keppler Wessles and Allan Donald.

  • DINESHCC on December 16, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    my next choice DAV WHATMORE

  • Vijay_MatchWinner on December 16, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    Superb coach to have around, away from media, talk less work more natured guy. Gary has been one of the reasons for this achievement of Team India! Good luck Gary for the future :)

  • ashish514 on December 16, 2010, 11:22 GMT

    I don't know why have India been so successful with the foreign coaches, but records clearly suggest that. I think they provide the balancing force to Indian players' laid back, no fuss approach with their disciplined, practice-hard approach. Chappell tried to impose this approach on Indians, while Wright and Kirsten complemented their approach with that of Indians'. Thus,if Gary resigns at all, I think another foreign coach should come. It is a necessary but not sufficient condition for India's success.

  • svalson on December 16, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    Stay Gary Stay! A billion-plus people hoping that you do.

  • iamsean on December 16, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    Gary was one of the best things to happen for India after John Wright...BCCI should quickly start their hunt for a new coach...I think looking at current coaches Stephen Fleming would fit the role the best..He would definitely be a big asset to the Indian team....after all he is an apt man to replace Gary as a an Opening batsman and as a Coach....he has done a wonderful job with CSK and has a good rapport with M S Dhoni...& i m sure it would do wonders for Indian Cricket to have him in as a Coach....

  • on December 16, 2010, 7:49 GMT

    India needs a gentle,sincere and integrity person who lead the world best team to its destination. Not coach who is selfish and dominate the players like G Chappel or others. J wright and G Kirsten is the example of great, honest and experienced coach who have definite vision and goal. They can integrated the team nicely. if Kirsten not continued with India team,it will be great problem. I hope Indian cricket management team will be look after this. They will give full support for his family and kids. The education system in India is the best world so the kids can start their study in India. From our Asian region I strongly want and support to stay Kirsten with Indian team. Long live Mr. Kirsten and Indian team.

  • rohanblue on December 16, 2010, 7:41 GMT

    he is one of d bst indian coach, and an awesome human being, bst of luck garry

  • on December 16, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    India needs a gentle,sincere and integrity person who lead the world best team to its destination. Not coach who is selfish and dominate the players like G Chappel or others. J wright and G Kirsten is the example of great, honest and experienced coach who have definite vision and goal. They can integrated the team nicely. if Kirsten not continued with India team,it will be great problem. I hope Indian cricket management team will be look after this. They will give full support for his family and kids. The education system in India is the best world so the kids can start their study in India. From our Asian region I strongly want and support to stay Kirsten with Indian team. Long live Mr. Kirsten and Indian team.

  • on December 16, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    India needs a gentle,sincere and integrity person who lead the world best team to its destination. Not coach who is selfish and dominate the players like G Chappel or others. J wright and G Kirsten is the example of great, honest and experienced coach who have definite vision and goal. They can integrated the team nicely. if Kirsten not continued with India team,it will be great problem. I hope Indian cricket management team will be look after this. They will give full support for his family and kids. The education system in India is the best world so the kids can start their study in India. From our Asian region I strongly want and support to stay Kirsten with Indian team. Long live Mr. Kirsten and Indian team.

  • Night-Watchman on December 16, 2010, 7:35 GMT

    In the modern age, international exposure is invaluable. This is specially applicable to children. What a better way to get educated than to be in different countries and different cultures. If I were Gary, I would look at giving my kids that advantage by staying and studying in India for a three year period. The schools are excellent, the #1 International school in the world is in Bangalore. There are homes with all modern amenities, hospitals, daycare for children and in general in all aspects. People are in general friendly and go out of the way to be helpful. There is a strong Non-residents network and social activity group as well. Security is perhaps the most worrying aspect in these times, however, that is something which can be discussed with BCCI. India is far safer than many countries in the world.

  • on December 16, 2010, 6:48 GMT

    India needs a gentle,sincere and integrity person who lead the world best team to its destination. Not coach who is selfish and dominate the players like G Chappel or others. J wright and G Kirsten is the example of great, honest and experienced coach who have definite vision and goal. They can integrated the team nicely. if Kirsten not continued with India team,it will be great problem. I hope Indian cricket management team will be look after this. They will give full support for his family and kids. The education system in India is the best world so the kids can start their study in India. From our Asian region I strongly want and support to stay Kirsten with Indian team. Long live Mr. Kirsten and Indian team.

  • on December 16, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    Greg Chappell would like coach the Indian team again.... :P

  • Morpheus273 on December 16, 2010, 4:49 GMT

    Gary has done extremely well as a coach. He has made sure that players focus and work on their weaknesses. He himself makes sure that he gives adequate time to each and every player. Though it will be a big loss for India and I too wish that the history does not repeat itself as it did post John Wright's term. Finger's Crossed.

    Indian players respect Gary and they understand that if Gary wants to be close to his family, watch his kids grow up, he should do what is right. The repect for him will remain the same. I hope Gary has a healthy discussion with his family and decide what's best for him and his family.

    For CSA, I dont think bringing Gary on board will help them. Gary has been successful with Team India because of our culture, where in we respect people who give their all for a cause. Westeners dont appreciate this. And I have my serious doubts on even Gary being helpful in getting rid of CHOKERS tag.

  • moinilyasneral on December 16, 2010, 4:41 GMT

    This could be real bad news for India...what with the older players approaching their "sell by " date and the newer youngsters just setting off !! Well, all good things (read Gary Kirsten) have to end, so one hopes India finds a good coach in his absence, as long as they DO NOT call back Greg Chappell...I think even the local butcher or fisherman would be a better choice than Greg..how does Ravi Shastri as the new coach sound? Any input on new probables from readers?

  • on December 15, 2010, 19:15 GMT

    Well kristen is a cool & thinking coach, i like kristen & andy flowr, andy flower is far more talented

    i admire both of them

  • SurlyCynic on December 15, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Sounds like a farewell. Unusual to have a captain discussing the negotiations with the coach, too....

  • on December 15, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    Come back to SA!!, the coaching job is yours after the World Cup.

  • on December 15, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    If and at all Kirsten goes, I hope India doesn't fall into same trench as they did when Wright left.

  • on December 15, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    gary.................gary has been really good....... jut like a jonh wright. hope indian players ego are kept aside and he is retained

  • JustOUT on December 15, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    Well, by all means CSA should not lose Kirsten at any point.

  • hashabjp on December 15, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    After the great Corie Van Zyl... its coach Kirsten time for south africa.

  • 123456789sharath on December 15, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    HATS-OFF TO THIS MAN(GARY)............... IT WOULD BE INDIA'S PLEASURE TO TAKE THE WORLD CUP WITH GARY AS THE COACH.....

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on December 15, 2010, 15:43 GMT

    Thats gonna be a big loss i hope everything was not scripted to get the intricacies of the indian cricket and then making a muck of family and personal distance from family he might well end up being the coach of south africans

  • nzcricket174 on December 15, 2010, 15:18 GMT

    There goes India's number one ranking.

  • on December 15, 2010, 15:04 GMT

    next best replacement - Kapil Dev . Not Jagmohan Dalmiya :))

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  • on December 15, 2010, 15:04 GMT

    next best replacement - Kapil Dev . Not Jagmohan Dalmiya :))

  • nzcricket174 on December 15, 2010, 15:18 GMT

    There goes India's number one ranking.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on December 15, 2010, 15:43 GMT

    Thats gonna be a big loss i hope everything was not scripted to get the intricacies of the indian cricket and then making a muck of family and personal distance from family he might well end up being the coach of south africans

  • 123456789sharath on December 15, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    HATS-OFF TO THIS MAN(GARY)............... IT WOULD BE INDIA'S PLEASURE TO TAKE THE WORLD CUP WITH GARY AS THE COACH.....

  • hashabjp on December 15, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    After the great Corie Van Zyl... its coach Kirsten time for south africa.

  • JustOUT on December 15, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    Well, by all means CSA should not lose Kirsten at any point.

  • on December 15, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    gary.................gary has been really good....... jut like a jonh wright. hope indian players ego are kept aside and he is retained

  • on December 15, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    If and at all Kirsten goes, I hope India doesn't fall into same trench as they did when Wright left.

  • on December 15, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    Come back to SA!!, the coaching job is yours after the World Cup.

  • SurlyCynic on December 15, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Sounds like a farewell. Unusual to have a captain discussing the negotiations with the coach, too....