Ireland news November 3, 2009

Ireland in hot pursuit of Full Member status

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Ireland have announced an ambitious plan to ascend to Full Member status within the ICC. The Irish will seek to become the ICC's eleventh Full Member nation, and the first to rise from the Associate ranks since Bangladesh in 2000.

Warren Deutrom, Cricket Ireland's chief executive, has sent a letter to the ICC stating his board's intention to apply for Full Membership - a potential pathway to Test cricket - and to seek clarification on the process. The ICC have since informed Ireland of the council's criteria and expectations, and the matter will now be discussed at the next chief executives' meeting, scheduled for later this month.

"There's a long way to go," Deutrom told Cricinfo's Switch Hit podcast. "Traditionally, applications have taken two, three or more years. There are clearly a large number of hoops we have to jump through. In terms of challenges that are facing us, yes, there is clearly an awful lot of work we need to do just to fulfill the compliance and existing criteria.

"It perhaps sets in motion a process that allows others to see the levels they need to reach in order to fulfill the same ambitions. It shouldn't be easy. Test cricket is regarded as the pinnacle of the game and it's quite right that those trying to ascend to Test cricket, or just Full Membership without necessarily involving Test cricket, have to ensure that they are coming up to some pretty rigorous criteria."

Ireland's cricketers have mounted a strong case for consideration as a Full Member nation with a string of solid performances in the four-day, 50 and 20-over formats, but still face a difficult task convincing existing members of the political and commercial benefits that their elevation would bring to the game. Unlike Bangladesh, the most recently-elected Full Member, Ireland does not boast a large population and player base to draw from. Bangladesh also provided India and its allies with another regional partner - and vote - at the ICC table. Ireland's introduction could potentially upset that balance.

The difficulties encountered by Ireland's cricketing administrators were highlighted earlier this year when a television rights package could not be negotiated for the home ODI against an England side less than a week removed from winning the Ashes. Attendances for other international matches have been modest, as cricket struggles to gain a foothold in a nation already absorbed by Gaelic football, hurling, football and rugby. Despite such obstacles, Cricket Ireland has evolved commercially to the point that ICC funding only accounts for 30% of the board's total revenue.

If the ICC is serious about its long-espoused aim of expanding the game beyond its traditional strongholds, Ireland might be in with a chance. Full Member funding would better equip Ireland to retain its top players - the defections of Ed Joyce and Eoin Morgan to England were evidence of Associate cricket's glass ceiling - and offer a progression path for other aspiring nations to follow.

"In terms of television, there is no doubt whatsoever that that was an issue last year," Deutrom said. "We had television for our game in 2006 when Ireland played England and in 2007 when India and South Africa were here. We didn't get a broadcaster for 2009. I think there were some financial problems involved in that. I think the problem by and large, from what broadcasters say to me, is that they don't like to do deals on a one-by-one basis. They prefer to package things up. If we were in a situation whereby we were embedded in the Future Tours Programme, then we would have sufficient home cricket to be able to go out and talk to another broadcaster.

"From a political perspective, I would regard many people on the chief executives' committee and the board as extremely fair-minded. I hope this doesn't come across sounding naive, but I think the decision should hopefully be made on its merits and not on the basis of any political alliances."

Ireland's recent performances have raised hopes that they could prove competitive at the game's elite level. In 41 one-day internationals since 2006, the Irish have won 17 matches, highlighted by their three-wicket triumph over Pakistan at the 2007 World Cup. Ireland won eight consecutive completed matches against Scotland, Kenya and Canada before suffering a narrow three-run defeat to England in their most recent ODI. That sequence included victory in the World Cup qualification tournament in South Africa earlier this year, which they capped with an emphatic nine-wicket demolition of Canada in the final.

Ireland have proven similarly competitive in the 20-over ranks, winning four of their eight completed matches including a six-wicket victory over Bangladesh at the World Twenty20 in June that propelled them into the Super Eights stage of the tournament. They are currently vying for their fourth consecutive Intercontinental Cup crown, and remain unbeaten in four-day competition since 2004.

"The key area where we see the strength of our proposal would be the performance on field of the senior men's squad over the last couple of years," Deutrom said. "In all three forms of the game we've proven ourselves above our associate rivals.

"If you think about the reasons why (players) are going (to England), it's because they want to be as good as they can be. They want to be able to find the vehicles and the forums to be able to express their abilities. In that way, we need to make sure that our players are aware of our ambitions. If we just happen to bump along as an associate and say, 'We're the No.1 associate now, that's all we're going to be forever,' I think we're going to lose more and more players. Our ambitions are surely to make sure that cricket is as successful as possible in Ireland ... and to that extent we need to make sure that our players are aware that that is exactly where we're going.

"Even if it's obviously too late for the likes of Eoin Morgan and Ed Joyce, what we're saying to the next rung of Irish players coming through is: we are ambitious, we are interested in going for Full Membership but it may take some time, and we are doing our very best to put in a contract system that allows you to consider playing cricket as a career in Ireland in the same way as you might want to play cricket for England and to complement your county career."

Alex Brown is deputy editor of Cricinfo

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  • NSUrockr on November 9, 2009, 20:30 GMT

    NielCamron didnt get ur opinion on Irelands Test status application.Teams like SriLanka, Zimbabwe have all proved how wrong England were in opposing them at a time. True Bangladesh havent done well.But they've just whitewashed the Windies. Bangladesh have almost beaten Pakistan, Australia or South Africa in Test matches but they actually didnt cut it.....The reality is that Bangladesh had to learn how to play more than a 1 day length game by playing Tests. But U have to admit that Bangladesh Cricket has improved because of this. Teams like Kenya or Zimbabwe are way behind Bd in ODI ratings and within a year or two they will surpass the Windies.Personally I have sympathy for Ireland in Test Cricket. But regradless of their being champions of asociats for 10 years or not they will still perform as badly as Bd did for the first 10 years. Whethr ur Irish or not u cannot beg for test status by insultin anothr country. theyl be losing by innings margins gainst lowly Bd and Zim for 5 +yrs

  • tfjones1978 on November 9, 2009, 15:32 GMT

    Idea that Bang should be removed/Irel not given test status because they will loose matches is silly. If you remove Bang & Zimb, people will complain that WI loose too many games. Remove WI & then it will be NZ, then Pak & so on. Also the notion of numbers for numbers is silly also. All players have the right to represent their country, if they dont get a chance in their country they will go elsewhere. Why have a sport where only 10% of playing countries (& 5% of countries in the world) have the right to play the ultimate version of the game? There are many things wrong with the ICC organisation of Cricket, like: * Prom teams, but never demote (Is Bang&Zimb actually better 4-5day teams then Assocs/just more exp?) * Political decisions instead of performance (prom Bang, not Kenya! Drop Zimb in 2004+ & SA in 1971-1991) * Competition with no end (finals anyone?) * 3 tiers (Test,ICup IShield) but no prom/releg * Focus on stats not improving (players care?) * Poach from Assocs but not full

  • sajal123 on November 9, 2009, 4:01 GMT

    I think its not fair to compare ireland with bangladesh at this stage,since bangladesh has a strong cricket infrastructure and plenty of talented players it will emerge a cricket superpower within a short period of time undoubtably if we notice their their grassroots level its very high stnadard especialliy their under 19 team check their last three years tremendous good performance against all test playing country under 19 and full talented young boys. The national team has player like Shakib al Hasan who is currently number one allrounder and wisden best test player also,tamim iqbal,mashrafe mortaza,ashraful,mahmudullah riyad,mushfiq rahim all these guys are talented. So why they are able to achieve this because they were given chance so please give the chance to ireland also if they are fit from all other aspects as well. additionaly like itzanurag suggested if Icc do intoduce relegation system ofcourse bangladesh willl be the first to climb in first raw keeping behind zim,ire,ken.

  • NeilCameron on November 5, 2009, 10:10 GMT

    Bangladesh should be stripped of full member status. Their results since 2000 have been pathetic and they have not developed into a successful side. Of course new Test sides always struggle in the early days, but Bangladesh has been particularly and unusually unsuccessful. They cannot be compared to the first ten years of Pakistan, Sri Lanka or even Zimbabwe.

  • redneck on November 5, 2009, 3:24 GMT

    i agree with what people are saying, it would be nice to have more than just the 8 main test teams playing against eachother. but having said that numbers for the sake of numbers isnt worht it. it will just mean more one sided matches and tests only lasting 3 days! bangledesh fans here are hanging their hat on why their team still deserves full membership based on their side beating australia in a solitary ODI back in 05! and on beating a caribean XI that were not test standard! this doesnt mean anything!!!!! prehaps bangledesh, ireland and zimbabwe could play a test tri series with the winner getting full membership. test cricket certainly cant have all 3 aspiring nations based on their current standards it would dilute the quality of cricket and devalue test cricket as a product!

  • bombers2008 on November 4, 2009, 23:45 GMT

    well done to the irish for wanting to play test cricket. For years they have popped up every now and then with surprise results, and having many years of experience in the sunday league in england obviously helped. Remember when they beat Middlesex in 1996, but they are like New Zealand in a way, where they are England's poor cousin, just like Australia bullied the Kiwis for years, not treating them seriously. Might be a good idea for the Scottish Cricket Association to try the same and get into the longer game. Have noticed that Bangladesh are slowly improving, albeit against weak west indian and Zimbabwe teams. Still, i don't think the Irish are that pathetic, speed up the process, get them playing test cricket and they just might surprise a lot a people.

  • andrew101notout on November 4, 2009, 20:33 GMT

    Im irish and a cricket lover and i think we should be a test team.The players deserve test cricket and the funding would be nice.Bangladesh deserve to be a test team.

  • Daiya on November 4, 2009, 19:58 GMT

    Why does the ICC not have a promotion-demotion system for the full member teams? For example if a team has been at the bottom of the group for a conistant period of time say 1 year or 2 years, they should be moved down and the team that has been consistantly on top say for 1 year or 2 years should be moved up to test level. Again if this team manages to survive and fight for a better ranking than the bottom another team would be at the bottom of the table which would be moved down to Associate ranking. The team that was demoted then has the ability to play the associate nations and re-claim their position as a full member. This would give the associate members something to play for. This could also help those countries to develop individual players who may be brilliant and good for the game.

  • JimDavis on November 4, 2009, 19:56 GMT

    Perfect opportunity for the ICC to restructure their full membership approach by bringing Ireland in. Get ride of the "must play everyone" rule. Change it to "must play x number of sides closest to you in the ranking (based on some D/L method)within a set period". Make playing the rest optional. Make all test series minimum 4 tests, all ODI series max 5 and all T20 series max 5.

  • Andrew86 on November 4, 2009, 19:16 GMT

    First of all, many congratulation to Ireland for their recent success in T20 world cup followed by the last Cricket World Cup 2007 in West Indies. Being a professional Cricket player I got to watch some of their recent ODI's in different competitions and I was absolutely fascinated by their performance, especially their approaches. Having said that in my opinion, ICC do need to ensure they have the following realistic ability along with all other basic requirements (exposure e.t.c) before Ireland are given full membership:

    1. Enough international quality player to replace player like T. Johnston, Nail O'brien e.t.c (in terms of their retirement) to keep up with their current performance. 2. Up to date domestic infrastructure to be able to produce world class standard player in continuous basis. 3. Having Kenya in mind about 10 years ago,making sure Irish Cricket is not always going to be based on migrant Irish and lot of Irish people gets into Cricket and wants to play for Ireland.

  • NSUrockr on November 9, 2009, 20:30 GMT

    NielCamron didnt get ur opinion on Irelands Test status application.Teams like SriLanka, Zimbabwe have all proved how wrong England were in opposing them at a time. True Bangladesh havent done well.But they've just whitewashed the Windies. Bangladesh have almost beaten Pakistan, Australia or South Africa in Test matches but they actually didnt cut it.....The reality is that Bangladesh had to learn how to play more than a 1 day length game by playing Tests. But U have to admit that Bangladesh Cricket has improved because of this. Teams like Kenya or Zimbabwe are way behind Bd in ODI ratings and within a year or two they will surpass the Windies.Personally I have sympathy for Ireland in Test Cricket. But regradless of their being champions of asociats for 10 years or not they will still perform as badly as Bd did for the first 10 years. Whethr ur Irish or not u cannot beg for test status by insultin anothr country. theyl be losing by innings margins gainst lowly Bd and Zim for 5 +yrs

  • tfjones1978 on November 9, 2009, 15:32 GMT

    Idea that Bang should be removed/Irel not given test status because they will loose matches is silly. If you remove Bang & Zimb, people will complain that WI loose too many games. Remove WI & then it will be NZ, then Pak & so on. Also the notion of numbers for numbers is silly also. All players have the right to represent their country, if they dont get a chance in their country they will go elsewhere. Why have a sport where only 10% of playing countries (& 5% of countries in the world) have the right to play the ultimate version of the game? There are many things wrong with the ICC organisation of Cricket, like: * Prom teams, but never demote (Is Bang&Zimb actually better 4-5day teams then Assocs/just more exp?) * Political decisions instead of performance (prom Bang, not Kenya! Drop Zimb in 2004+ & SA in 1971-1991) * Competition with no end (finals anyone?) * 3 tiers (Test,ICup IShield) but no prom/releg * Focus on stats not improving (players care?) * Poach from Assocs but not full

  • sajal123 on November 9, 2009, 4:01 GMT

    I think its not fair to compare ireland with bangladesh at this stage,since bangladesh has a strong cricket infrastructure and plenty of talented players it will emerge a cricket superpower within a short period of time undoubtably if we notice their their grassroots level its very high stnadard especialliy their under 19 team check their last three years tremendous good performance against all test playing country under 19 and full talented young boys. The national team has player like Shakib al Hasan who is currently number one allrounder and wisden best test player also,tamim iqbal,mashrafe mortaza,ashraful,mahmudullah riyad,mushfiq rahim all these guys are talented. So why they are able to achieve this because they were given chance so please give the chance to ireland also if they are fit from all other aspects as well. additionaly like itzanurag suggested if Icc do intoduce relegation system ofcourse bangladesh willl be the first to climb in first raw keeping behind zim,ire,ken.

  • NeilCameron on November 5, 2009, 10:10 GMT

    Bangladesh should be stripped of full member status. Their results since 2000 have been pathetic and they have not developed into a successful side. Of course new Test sides always struggle in the early days, but Bangladesh has been particularly and unusually unsuccessful. They cannot be compared to the first ten years of Pakistan, Sri Lanka or even Zimbabwe.

  • redneck on November 5, 2009, 3:24 GMT

    i agree with what people are saying, it would be nice to have more than just the 8 main test teams playing against eachother. but having said that numbers for the sake of numbers isnt worht it. it will just mean more one sided matches and tests only lasting 3 days! bangledesh fans here are hanging their hat on why their team still deserves full membership based on their side beating australia in a solitary ODI back in 05! and on beating a caribean XI that were not test standard! this doesnt mean anything!!!!! prehaps bangledesh, ireland and zimbabwe could play a test tri series with the winner getting full membership. test cricket certainly cant have all 3 aspiring nations based on their current standards it would dilute the quality of cricket and devalue test cricket as a product!

  • bombers2008 on November 4, 2009, 23:45 GMT

    well done to the irish for wanting to play test cricket. For years they have popped up every now and then with surprise results, and having many years of experience in the sunday league in england obviously helped. Remember when they beat Middlesex in 1996, but they are like New Zealand in a way, where they are England's poor cousin, just like Australia bullied the Kiwis for years, not treating them seriously. Might be a good idea for the Scottish Cricket Association to try the same and get into the longer game. Have noticed that Bangladesh are slowly improving, albeit against weak west indian and Zimbabwe teams. Still, i don't think the Irish are that pathetic, speed up the process, get them playing test cricket and they just might surprise a lot a people.

  • andrew101notout on November 4, 2009, 20:33 GMT

    Im irish and a cricket lover and i think we should be a test team.The players deserve test cricket and the funding would be nice.Bangladesh deserve to be a test team.

  • Daiya on November 4, 2009, 19:58 GMT

    Why does the ICC not have a promotion-demotion system for the full member teams? For example if a team has been at the bottom of the group for a conistant period of time say 1 year or 2 years, they should be moved down and the team that has been consistantly on top say for 1 year or 2 years should be moved up to test level. Again if this team manages to survive and fight for a better ranking than the bottom another team would be at the bottom of the table which would be moved down to Associate ranking. The team that was demoted then has the ability to play the associate nations and re-claim their position as a full member. This would give the associate members something to play for. This could also help those countries to develop individual players who may be brilliant and good for the game.

  • JimDavis on November 4, 2009, 19:56 GMT

    Perfect opportunity for the ICC to restructure their full membership approach by bringing Ireland in. Get ride of the "must play everyone" rule. Change it to "must play x number of sides closest to you in the ranking (based on some D/L method)within a set period". Make playing the rest optional. Make all test series minimum 4 tests, all ODI series max 5 and all T20 series max 5.

  • Andrew86 on November 4, 2009, 19:16 GMT

    First of all, many congratulation to Ireland for their recent success in T20 world cup followed by the last Cricket World Cup 2007 in West Indies. Being a professional Cricket player I got to watch some of their recent ODI's in different competitions and I was absolutely fascinated by their performance, especially their approaches. Having said that in my opinion, ICC do need to ensure they have the following realistic ability along with all other basic requirements (exposure e.t.c) before Ireland are given full membership:

    1. Enough international quality player to replace player like T. Johnston, Nail O'brien e.t.c (in terms of their retirement) to keep up with their current performance. 2. Up to date domestic infrastructure to be able to produce world class standard player in continuous basis. 3. Having Kenya in mind about 10 years ago,making sure Irish Cricket is not always going to be based on migrant Irish and lot of Irish people gets into Cricket and wants to play for Ireland.

  • antiguaman on November 4, 2009, 18:04 GMT

    i think its not fair to compare ireland with bangladesh at this stage,since bangladesh has a strong cricket infrastructure and plenty of talented players it will emerge a cricket superpower within a short period of time undoubtably if we notice their their grassroots level its very high stnadard especialliy their under 19 team check their last three years tremendous good performance against all test playing country under 19 and full talented young boys. The national team has player like Shakib al Hasan who is currently number one allrounder and wisden best test player also,tamim iqbal,mashrafe mortaza,ashraful,mahmudullah riyad,mushfiq rahim all these guys are talented. So why they are able to achieve this because they were given chance so please give the chance to ireland also if they are fit from all other aspects as well. additionaly like itzanurag suggested if Icc do intoduce relegation system ofcourse bangladesh willl be the first to climb in first raw keeping behind zim,ire,ken

  • Hassan.Farooqi on November 4, 2009, 17:53 GMT

    BBuddhi: "If Pakistan can, why not Ireland ???". Good logic! Ireland beat Pakistan years ago. Pakistan has beaten India a few months ago in the Champions Trophy. India has beaten Australia a few days ago. So by your logic, the team in question is Australia. So say, "If Australia can, why not Ireland". Again, fantastic logic!!!

  • ABHI_MANUTD on November 4, 2009, 17:14 GMT

    Unlike Bangladesh and Kenya, Ireland had shown better hopes of becoming a successful cricketing nation.And this conclusion cannot be drawn only on the basis of their wonderful outing at the 2007 World Cup.They had shown the spark at the practice matches itself, by giving South Africa and New Zealand a run for their money and almost sealing the matches in their favor.In my opinion, the ICC should force the eight Test playing nations to organise a three or five ODI match bilateral series and then derive a conclusion on the provision of Test status to Ireland.One must learn from the Bangladesh Experience and provide Test status to Ireland only after 2-3 years.Though Ireland is an exciting team, Test cricket is a different ball game. Test matches are won by teams who can take 20 wickets, not by those who score 500 runs and produce a stalemate. Meanwhile, Ireland can be taught the nuances of Test cricket by organizing 5 day Tests between Associate Members as well as Bangladesh, Zimbabwe.

  • BBuddhi on November 4, 2009, 17:03 GMT

    To those who do not miss a breath to spit on Bangladesh's performance and ignore to see their steady progress, I have a very few words for you: By the time the average age of Bangladeshi team reach to some of those so called elite bums, these boys sure will beat their elite behind on regular basis, be it a 1.3 billion overrated hyped up low performing Indian team, senior citizen's Australian team, clueless Pakistani team, amateurist English team, disfunctional West Indian team or off again on again South African team. So see yourself on the mirror first before going after someone else. And yes, I believe a two-tire test championship consisting 6 teams each is a good idea. This way nobody can take it for granted!

  • Nabiul.robin on November 4, 2009, 16:26 GMT

    Mr mihir-nam, do you know Bangladesh beat Ireland 3-0 after the world cup

  • mihir_nam on November 4, 2009, 11:52 GMT

    Yes Ireland Deserves and they should assure that they will develop faster than Bangladesh.it took them 8Yrs to win Test Match Away that too with Depleted West Indies 5th String Windies..And Zimbabwe which was facing mass Exodus.Otherwise Bangladesh is still pathetic team. if Bangladesh went to 2nd round of WC in their 3rd world cup and but Ireland went to 2nd round in their 1st world Cup only.If Ireland get same exposure like Bangladesh they will become stronger than NewZealand & West Indies in 4 years. Ireland will get after they play in 3 ICC tournaments which might be after T20 2010(If they qualify) or 2011WC(Already Qualified) Atleast ICC should give them permanent ODI status and regular matches with Full Members also they should arrange Ireland Vs A Teams of Full Member First Class Matches. So they can jump into Test Cricket in a Year..

  • fizz on November 4, 2009, 11:31 GMT

    I wouldn't agree with them being given full membership to the extent of being able to play test cricket. I say this because they simply don not have the strength and depth required to play at that level. If they are inducted in the next year or two for full membership it will only create more one-sided test series (like we have been more often than not seeing with teams playing Bangladesh) which will not help the 5 -day game's popularity in an era of 20/20. I think they need to play more with high ranking domestic teams in the 4-day format for a good 3-4 seasons before considering full membership. Teams such as Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, where there is bags of talent, should to the same to get back onto the test scene, and for the latter to improve it's competativeness in the 5 day game. Support at home will only come when Ireland start putting in strong performances.

  • howizzat on November 4, 2009, 10:28 GMT

    Yes why not? Its either Ireland shoulbe inducted or BN and ZIM should be removed to have level playing field. Unlike KENYA after showing promise, at least Ireland has not withered away.

  • abhilash.medhi on November 4, 2009, 9:24 GMT

    Ireland has been performing consistently over the last few years and their joining the other Test teams should do them a world of good. Howwver, easing them into the Big Boy's Club would be a wise idea. For now, 3-4 years more seem like enough time to allow them to create more than just ripples at major tournaments. Test cricket, we shall note, is not the place to globalise cricket. Inconsequential matches that get over in 2-3 days only hurt the game. A number of comments seem to refer to Bangladesh's recent success to support their bid. While Bangladesh has made massive strides up the ladder, they still need time to develop into a full-blown test outfit. A series of victories against Zimbabwe and a second-string West Indian team is proof of their coming of age, but not proof enough. I am afraid a test series against South Africa, Australia or India will still come as a rude surprise to Bangladesh cricket.

  • Nabiul.robin on November 4, 2009, 7:49 GMT

    Congratulation Ireland for their effort. But please dont compare with the cricket status of Bangladesh. Bangladesh has a very strong cricket background. They have strong support from people and government. They have sponsors. They have strong cricket facilities. Moreover Bangladesh improve their performance. They win three consecutive ODI series against West Indies and Zimbuwe. Bangladesh also played in super eight of World cup and World T 20. Bangladesh beat Australia. Bangladesh has number one all rounder of the world like Shakibul hasan. Bangladesh is now a better team and you can watch more from Bangladesh in near future.

  • zak123kaif on November 4, 2009, 7:28 GMT

    I think its good that ireland is applying for full membership of ICC.that will certainly helped their confidence level and they might come with much more upsets in world cups

  • itzanurag on November 4, 2009, 7:21 GMT

    Yes, why not? Why the exclusivity? But yes, the Test structure needs to be restructred... There is actually a strong case to start a two-tier Test Championship with a cycle of 4-5 years and with possibly 6 teams in each tier and relegation and promotion to boot. It would help expand Test cricket to countries like Ireland, Canada and possibly Netherlands, Kenya, Scotland and Namibia as well as promise more spacing between matches and a bit of breathing time for cricketers. I cant see a problem to this, and I dont see what ICC administrators see.

  • BBuddhi on November 4, 2009, 7:20 GMT

    If Pakistan can, why not Ireland ??? Specially given the fact that Ireland beat Pakistan in their recent encounter in the last world cup.

  • DeepakW on November 4, 2009, 6:54 GMT

    Perhaps, ICC can have a 2nd division for Test Cricket where Teams like Ireland, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe can compete and qualify for the top league.

  • wiseshah on November 4, 2009, 6:36 GMT

    i think people are jealous of bangladesh's recent success.cricket is dying almost every where. except india, bangladesh and srilanka--its none of the country's main game.it is boring to watch 8 country playing all year round. specially india-australia 7 ODI series is like post traumatic stress disorder experience to us.

  • truefan001 on November 4, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    Ireland is a good team to watch. I agree with opinion of many that they will not be able to stand against the powerhouses on the field. But isn't it the time to globalise the cricket. ICC should devise any plans to have potential Teams like Ireland in the circle. May be some foreign players in their team paid by ICC! Or any other plan you can suggest.

  • Robin7 on November 4, 2009, 6:32 GMT

    In terms of performance till date, they deseve it. But should be given time to prove consistency both senior and junior level in longer versions.

  • wiseshah on November 4, 2009, 6:20 GMT

    Ireland definitely deserve to be one of the full member.i dont understand why people drag bangladesh in every single bad comparison.bangladesh is one of the youngest team and improved dramatically for last 2 year.2 bowlers in the top 10 list and number one allrounder belongs to Bd team, BD have only few ponts difference with WI team.last year against NZ, they supposed to win both series and they beat top teams in regular basis. BD should be compared with india, west indies and new zealand category, not other wise

  • Robin7 on November 4, 2009, 6:08 GMT

    Ireland might be given test status within one or two years, but the team should prove that it is performing like West Indies and Bangladesh in longer versin games. It is very nice to see that Bangladesh is progessing rapidly.

  • tejas.v.pradhan on November 4, 2009, 6:06 GMT

    I am completely for adding Ireland to the list of ICC Full time members. What cricket lacks I think is the presence of a large number of teams, like in case of football. This will make the international cricket more interesting as it will allow people to see more diverse contests. Like suppose Afganistan, Ireland, UAE, etc. These teams may not be strong but their presence on the international arena would definitely reduce the boredom of watching the same handfull of teams playing each other incessantly. This way we can have a lot of international cricket (solving the sponsors needs) without individual teams playing a large number of matches.

  • ciaron on November 4, 2009, 5:32 GMT

    As an Irishman I sincerely hope that the Republic does get full membership; however, I can understand the broadcasters concerns as cricket will NEVER compete with the likes of gaelic football and football (soccer) and so therefore crowds will probably, like the current team, be full of expats from New Zealand and Australia. All in all though I would love to go to an Republic of Ireland vs. England test match at Croke Park! it would be more intense than India vs Pakistan at Eden Gardens!

  • shraddhak on November 4, 2009, 5:22 GMT

    If Bangladesh can, why not Ireland ??? Specially given their performances against the top 8 countries in the extremely limited opportunities they've got ... For instance, progressing into the second rounds of the 2007 World Cup and the T20 World Cup in 2009

  • cskp on November 4, 2009, 4:05 GMT

    I really think its about time that we have some relly good,New teams in the cricketing world. getting a little bored with the same teams over and over again. Besides it will be nice to see new talent and new strategies on the playin feild. and friends dont underestimate Ireland. good luck Ireland. You have my vote.!

  • nahid1024 on November 4, 2009, 3:01 GMT

    Ireland is in a catch-22 situation. They deserve test status after proving themselves at all associate levels and knocking off full member teams during the recent world cups. Also that ECB poaches their star players is a testament to their abilities.

  • morgieb on November 4, 2009, 2:11 GMT

    They shouldn't have it, but neither should Zimbabwe & Bangladesh. Might not be that far-fetched. Don't see it happening.

  • raveekoomar on November 4, 2009, 1:29 GMT

    I think its high time the ICC recognises talent like Irish, which in the last few years is very very satisfying than even Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. The fact that they were competitive even in a hurry burry T20 shows their abundant talent all round. Except that they were part timers, everything else is just perfect. If they were given full time professional cricketers allowances and playing in counties etc then that could augur well for the future of Irish nation as a whole. Three cheers to their wish to fulfill as a full member of the ICC. I hope its done by 2011.

  • KAZabbar on November 3, 2009, 23:00 GMT

    I would love to see Ireland as a test team. Even though their infra structure, popularity, fan base is an issue. But they have shown over and over again that they are head and shoulders above other associates and should be allowed to battle it out against the bigger boys. Lets hope we have 11 test nations within the next few years

  • Sportsscientist on November 3, 2009, 22:04 GMT

    It's about time. they have a good pool of players and can make a good start. The problem with Ireland is that if they don't, then all their players who show potential in county cricket will be taken away by England....It's that simple.

    Question: where are they going to get the financial backing to set up their own domestic league?

  • Munkeymomo on November 3, 2009, 18:16 GMT

    I think it would be great to see them join the ranks of crickets elite, the more countries we can see playing and enjoying cricket the better! It will most likely never be as popular as football, but it is still very limited, if a team like Ireland can make it to the top level it will give hope to the other associates and hopefully in time raise the profile in those countries as they get more ambitious and that could give other, lower countries more hope, and so the cycle continues. Its a shame cricket is so much of an exclusive club (especially in England its sad to say, with the lords 'types' dominating proceedings), it would be great to see more and more countries playing the sport, at any level.

  • PratUSA on November 3, 2009, 18:01 GMT

    I support the inclusion of Ireland as full member ASAP but unless ICC comes up with two tier tests structure, I wouldn't want Ireland to play 10 tests a year against top 8 teams like Bangladesh has been doing disastrously since their induction. They should only be asked to play an occasional test here and there and/or continue to participate in the ICC Intercontinental Cup just like Zimbabwe XI is doing this year.

  • Abaa on November 3, 2009, 17:59 GMT

    If Bangladesh can, why not Ireland ??? Specially given their performances against the top 8 countries in the extremely limited opportunities they've got ... For instance, progressing into the second rounds of the 2007 World Cup and the T20 World Cup in 2009

  • Ilin on November 3, 2009, 17:11 GMT

    good luck ireland.i love your spirit and your professionalism.all the best.

  • Ilin on November 3, 2009, 17:09 GMT

    iam saying it since last 18 months that ireland deseves the test status most.if icc doesnt want them to have test status now,then atleast ireland should play more oftenly with top teams in odis like india,australia,srilanka,outh africa etc.presently ireland is far better than bangladesh and zimbabwe.ireland is really really a good team.as iam an indian but iam supporting ireland because they really deserves to be in top teams.iam following their performances since 14-15months,and they are incredibly good.and if icc can tollerate the bangladesh in tests,then wats the crime of ireland.they are even much much bettr team than that of bangladesh. and icc,mark my words-with ireland,you are not going to repeat bangladesh,as they are much professional and better team.iam all with ireland.good luck ireland.

  • Hassan.Farooqi on November 3, 2009, 17:01 GMT

    Ireland fully deserves to be given more shots at international scene. However Kenya has more untapped talents, and if Ireland is preferred over Kenya, it would be seen as a bias. I suggest Ireland and Kenya should both be considered. I would go further in saying that Canada should be next in line and given some respect. Ofcourse the country with most talent wasted is the USA, thanks to the politics here. Maybe ICC should try to solve the US problems as there is a huge huge commercial benefit that can outweight Ireland and Kenya combined.

  • Iftekharul_Hasan_Siam on November 3, 2009, 16:38 GMT

    I think ICC should cancel test status of Bangladesh & Zimbabwe.Ireland is not yet fit for gaining test status.This is because they won few matches in ODIs but they also howed very poor cricket in many matches.They have to go a long way of.

  • ElectronSmoke on November 3, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    I almost know that BCCI with its idea of power, voting strength and financial clout will try to veto this move. But as a cricket enthusiast ... i'd love to have Ireland join the ranks. At any rate, they have competed and hustled the big teams much more than Bangladesh have managed in a good nine years. If only everyone in Bangladesh had the attitude of Shakib Al Hasan to complement their talent ..

  • nahid1024 on November 3, 2009, 16:30 GMT

    The Irish deserves Test status. They are caught in a catch-22 situation. I am sure that if they are given test status, many of their financial complications will clear up. They have beaten Pakistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe in recent times and deserve to play with the big boys to further the develop the game in their country. Given ECB poaches their best players from time to time is a testament to their ability.

  • Nipun on November 3, 2009, 16:28 GMT

    While giving my full appreciation to the Irish,I don't think they are really ready for it.Cricket lovers & experts alike are still mourning over the pathetic decision of promoting Bangladesh to full membership status.We certainly don't want another disaster to happen!Instead,knock off Bangladesh & Zimbabwe from full membership family to offer consolation for Ireland. for God's sake,give Ireland more International tours consisting of ODIs against all teams & about 5 first-class matches against the A teams or the strongest state teams in each of such tours.Monitor their progress & only after passing these tests should they be allowed entrance in the Holy Test Arena.& oh yes,knock Bangladesh off test cricket please!

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  • Nipun on November 3, 2009, 16:28 GMT

    While giving my full appreciation to the Irish,I don't think they are really ready for it.Cricket lovers & experts alike are still mourning over the pathetic decision of promoting Bangladesh to full membership status.We certainly don't want another disaster to happen!Instead,knock off Bangladesh & Zimbabwe from full membership family to offer consolation for Ireland. for God's sake,give Ireland more International tours consisting of ODIs against all teams & about 5 first-class matches against the A teams or the strongest state teams in each of such tours.Monitor their progress & only after passing these tests should they be allowed entrance in the Holy Test Arena.& oh yes,knock Bangladesh off test cricket please!

  • nahid1024 on November 3, 2009, 16:30 GMT

    The Irish deserves Test status. They are caught in a catch-22 situation. I am sure that if they are given test status, many of their financial complications will clear up. They have beaten Pakistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe in recent times and deserve to play with the big boys to further the develop the game in their country. Given ECB poaches their best players from time to time is a testament to their ability.

  • ElectronSmoke on November 3, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    I almost know that BCCI with its idea of power, voting strength and financial clout will try to veto this move. But as a cricket enthusiast ... i'd love to have Ireland join the ranks. At any rate, they have competed and hustled the big teams much more than Bangladesh have managed in a good nine years. If only everyone in Bangladesh had the attitude of Shakib Al Hasan to complement their talent ..

  • Iftekharul_Hasan_Siam on November 3, 2009, 16:38 GMT

    I think ICC should cancel test status of Bangladesh & Zimbabwe.Ireland is not yet fit for gaining test status.This is because they won few matches in ODIs but they also howed very poor cricket in many matches.They have to go a long way of.

  • Hassan.Farooqi on November 3, 2009, 17:01 GMT

    Ireland fully deserves to be given more shots at international scene. However Kenya has more untapped talents, and if Ireland is preferred over Kenya, it would be seen as a bias. I suggest Ireland and Kenya should both be considered. I would go further in saying that Canada should be next in line and given some respect. Ofcourse the country with most talent wasted is the USA, thanks to the politics here. Maybe ICC should try to solve the US problems as there is a huge huge commercial benefit that can outweight Ireland and Kenya combined.

  • Ilin on November 3, 2009, 17:09 GMT

    iam saying it since last 18 months that ireland deseves the test status most.if icc doesnt want them to have test status now,then atleast ireland should play more oftenly with top teams in odis like india,australia,srilanka,outh africa etc.presently ireland is far better than bangladesh and zimbabwe.ireland is really really a good team.as iam an indian but iam supporting ireland because they really deserves to be in top teams.iam following their performances since 14-15months,and they are incredibly good.and if icc can tollerate the bangladesh in tests,then wats the crime of ireland.they are even much much bettr team than that of bangladesh. and icc,mark my words-with ireland,you are not going to repeat bangladesh,as they are much professional and better team.iam all with ireland.good luck ireland.

  • Ilin on November 3, 2009, 17:11 GMT

    good luck ireland.i love your spirit and your professionalism.all the best.

  • Abaa on November 3, 2009, 17:59 GMT

    If Bangladesh can, why not Ireland ??? Specially given their performances against the top 8 countries in the extremely limited opportunities they've got ... For instance, progressing into the second rounds of the 2007 World Cup and the T20 World Cup in 2009

  • PratUSA on November 3, 2009, 18:01 GMT

    I support the inclusion of Ireland as full member ASAP but unless ICC comes up with two tier tests structure, I wouldn't want Ireland to play 10 tests a year against top 8 teams like Bangladesh has been doing disastrously since their induction. They should only be asked to play an occasional test here and there and/or continue to participate in the ICC Intercontinental Cup just like Zimbabwe XI is doing this year.

  • Munkeymomo on November 3, 2009, 18:16 GMT

    I think it would be great to see them join the ranks of crickets elite, the more countries we can see playing and enjoying cricket the better! It will most likely never be as popular as football, but it is still very limited, if a team like Ireland can make it to the top level it will give hope to the other associates and hopefully in time raise the profile in those countries as they get more ambitious and that could give other, lower countries more hope, and so the cycle continues. Its a shame cricket is so much of an exclusive club (especially in England its sad to say, with the lords 'types' dominating proceedings), it would be great to see more and more countries playing the sport, at any level.