April 11, 2011

Will it be Kirsten and de Villiers?

Who will be the new men appointed to helm South Africa's seemingly never-ending quest for ICC silverware?
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The process of looking for a coach and captain to take South Africa forward has started in earnest in South Africa.

The relationship between the captain and coach is of the utmost importance. Over the past eight years this particular relationship was sometimes hostile, at times uncomfortable, and occasionally pretty good between Graeme Smith and the coaches he worked with. It is not necessary for the captain and coach to be friends but there has to be a mutual respect and understanding between the two that leads to a positive influence on the team. Cricket South Africa will no doubt consider this when they proceed to find two individuals to fill these important positions.

As far as the coach is concerned, public opinion is strongly in favour of Gary Kirsten. Kirsten has the world at his feet after the recent World Cup win. He will have several options available to him. I would imagine that Kirsten will feel he has proved himself. Rather than him going through an application process, whoever wants him will have to come to him and agree to his terms. Rather than applying for a coaching job, he will respond to being headhunted.

Kirsten at this point holds all the aces. It must be appealing to him to take on an IPL coaching position or similar before he moves back into the international scene. This way he will be able to spend time with his family and consider options before accepting another challenging international job.

No national coaching position is without considerable pressure, and the South African job is no exception. The South African public is desperate for success at an ICC event. The next ICC event is the World Twenty20 next year in Sri Lanka. Should Kirsten accept the position, he will be under immediate pressure to transform the Proteas and bring home the trophy with a talented team - though not quite as strong as his recent Indian team with all the icon players he has been working with.

The advantage of securing the services of Kirsten for South Africa will be that he brings excellent qualities to a coaching position. He is a hands-on, hardworking coach with a non-confrontational style that appeals to the modern player. He brings a certain calmness to the dressing room. In the current turmoil, after the disappointment of South Africa's World Cup campaign, this will be a good thing.

The next South African captain will more than likely be one of Johan Botha, AB de Villiers or Hashim Amla. They can all stake a strong claim for the position. One captain for all three playing disciplines will be a good option. A new coach together with a new captain in all forms of the game will be the right move and will allow captain and coach to stamp their authority on the team and take South African cricket forward. A split captaincy at this point will make it very difficult for a new captain and coach to function successfully.

The most likely captain at this point is AB de Villiers. He is ready for the job. The advantage of de Villiers is that he is a certain selection in all versions of the game. He is an established and respected member of the team. He is young enough to be in the team for some time to come. He has become his own man and has matured as an individual and as a player. He ticks the right boxes.

In the past Johan Botha has done an excellent job as stand-in captain. He has all the right attributes for the job. The problem is that he doesn't appear to be a certain selection in all forms of the game.

The same applies to Hashim Amla. Amla has tremendous value as a top-order batsman and as a senior player. He is unlikely, though, to play in the Twenty20 format. There appears to be a reluctance on Amla's behalf, as well, to take on the position.

A de Villiers-Kirsten combination looks a good one. Cricket South Africa have been very supportive of Graeme Smith and his senior players as well as the coaching staff. They will embrace and support the new regime in the same way. All of South Africa will be watching and hoping that they find a World Cup-winning combination over the next few weeks.

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  • Raziulnur on April 14, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    Surely Kirsten ll be best option as coach. Botha isnot da perfect one specially his place is not confirm in ny kinds of game as tahir is da main spinner. So btween AB n Amla, it should b AB as he is proactive in da field.

  • on April 14, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    Bring on Gibbs..................sack most overrated opportunist cricketers smith & duminy who do nothing at big stage..........Duminy raises his avg by remainning not out & his technique is so poor that he gets bold repeatedly

  • sirvivfan on April 13, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    To me it has to be Amla. Very good player in both one day and test match. I actually think he is ok for 20:2 0 as wel, only if he was given a chance! He has out so red Smith When ever I have watched him. Also he looks very calm, and will fit the image of new south Africa which needs to move on. Some how mr Wessels represents the past. As to coach Kirsten is qualified in more ways then most. Challenge for future south African management is to support and develop more representation from Africans. I am from Pakistanand I love watching cricket in South Africa. Good luck who ever gets the nod,there is plenty of talent to pick from going forward riaz

  • jzigbe on April 13, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    Couch is obvious. Captain should either be Botha or Amla. Have you people noticed how well Botha is batting at no. 3 in the IPL !?

  • FAB_ALI on April 13, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    Kirsten and De villiers, Ideal. They should look to keep the team strong and confident with influential leaders and shouldnt target the ICC events directly. Success will come through hard work and small but constant achievements.

  • HostileJ on April 13, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    Kepler my man - as long as they DONT select you as coach all of us will be happy. I have to agree with Muhammed Qm and can add that unfortunately whenever you get to give your opinion about SA cricket there is always this negative pessimistic feel about it.SA doesnt just play 5 tests and 5 odi's a year like they did in your day.Plus there are 3 disciplines now, not just 2 like in your day. Smith, Ponting, Vettori and Sangakkara are the 1st examples of captains that succumb under the pressures of todays schedule.Dhoni is an exception and on a massive high at the moment.The best thing that can happen is for Smith (even though you dont like him kepler) to pull back his resignation for 1dayers - botha can handle 20/20. AB, Amla and Botha are not at the right stages of their careers to be selected captain of the 1day side.Alternatively, if you want to drop Biff (or make space for a captain), get Jacques Rudolph to captain 1dayers and 20/20.

  • Baria00 on April 13, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    @ Sriram TB..first of all Kirsten will do a good job anywhere he coaches. man has played more than 100 test matches and more than 200 one days. he knows the ups and downs on the cricket fields and mental aspect of the game. secondly as per SA being the best, they r not even close. u take Amla, Kallis and AB out and they have nothing left. Smith is overrated to a point. they got two premier bowlers thats it in Steyn and Morkel. they have no middle order to speak of. they beat india when india were at one of the lowest point. india can play pace, they have proved over and over again in past 5 years. SA did beat india but they also could not chase 160 against england. SA will only be a force if they find a good spinner and solid middle order.

  • on April 13, 2011, 2:22 GMT

    Appointing Kirsten should be a no brainer but an over-expectation from him to do what he achieved with the Indians may place both the coach and the coached into a psychological bind. Best will be to define the targets and set the objective at the outset.

    Captaincy; no one better than Botha. I do not buy he is not an automatic selection for Tests. He should be. Look at Dhoni; he is not the most talented cricketer the Indians have at the moment, but they cannot afford to miss out on his leadership assets.

    Wisdom lies in choosing the right when time is ripe. ABD idea is great but better if SA let him concentrate on his perceived essentials for a while longer, rather than stress him too early.

  • on April 12, 2011, 20:53 GMT

    Of course the SA public would love too see if Gazza's magic can deliver Protea success beyond the artifice of merely topping the rankings. Choose wisely, Cricket SA.

  • on April 12, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    @Sriram TB You are trying too hard to be a cricket neutral here.Only cricketing talent does not merit success.South Africa and Australia don't have spin talents to start with.South Africa has always been a consistent side but they faltered almost every time in knockout matches.If I want my batsmen to perform against any side it has to be Pakistan.India is no champion side but there is none currently now.It has to be the best from the pack of these flawed teams.No one is invincible and that adds beauty to the game.I don't understand the need for mentioning the past Australian teams here?

  • Raziulnur on April 14, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    Surely Kirsten ll be best option as coach. Botha isnot da perfect one specially his place is not confirm in ny kinds of game as tahir is da main spinner. So btween AB n Amla, it should b AB as he is proactive in da field.

  • on April 14, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    Bring on Gibbs..................sack most overrated opportunist cricketers smith & duminy who do nothing at big stage..........Duminy raises his avg by remainning not out & his technique is so poor that he gets bold repeatedly

  • sirvivfan on April 13, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    To me it has to be Amla. Very good player in both one day and test match. I actually think he is ok for 20:2 0 as wel, only if he was given a chance! He has out so red Smith When ever I have watched him. Also he looks very calm, and will fit the image of new south Africa which needs to move on. Some how mr Wessels represents the past. As to coach Kirsten is qualified in more ways then most. Challenge for future south African management is to support and develop more representation from Africans. I am from Pakistanand I love watching cricket in South Africa. Good luck who ever gets the nod,there is plenty of talent to pick from going forward riaz

  • jzigbe on April 13, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    Couch is obvious. Captain should either be Botha or Amla. Have you people noticed how well Botha is batting at no. 3 in the IPL !?

  • FAB_ALI on April 13, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    Kirsten and De villiers, Ideal. They should look to keep the team strong and confident with influential leaders and shouldnt target the ICC events directly. Success will come through hard work and small but constant achievements.

  • HostileJ on April 13, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    Kepler my man - as long as they DONT select you as coach all of us will be happy. I have to agree with Muhammed Qm and can add that unfortunately whenever you get to give your opinion about SA cricket there is always this negative pessimistic feel about it.SA doesnt just play 5 tests and 5 odi's a year like they did in your day.Plus there are 3 disciplines now, not just 2 like in your day. Smith, Ponting, Vettori and Sangakkara are the 1st examples of captains that succumb under the pressures of todays schedule.Dhoni is an exception and on a massive high at the moment.The best thing that can happen is for Smith (even though you dont like him kepler) to pull back his resignation for 1dayers - botha can handle 20/20. AB, Amla and Botha are not at the right stages of their careers to be selected captain of the 1day side.Alternatively, if you want to drop Biff (or make space for a captain), get Jacques Rudolph to captain 1dayers and 20/20.

  • Baria00 on April 13, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    @ Sriram TB..first of all Kirsten will do a good job anywhere he coaches. man has played more than 100 test matches and more than 200 one days. he knows the ups and downs on the cricket fields and mental aspect of the game. secondly as per SA being the best, they r not even close. u take Amla, Kallis and AB out and they have nothing left. Smith is overrated to a point. they got two premier bowlers thats it in Steyn and Morkel. they have no middle order to speak of. they beat india when india were at one of the lowest point. india can play pace, they have proved over and over again in past 5 years. SA did beat india but they also could not chase 160 against england. SA will only be a force if they find a good spinner and solid middle order.

  • on April 13, 2011, 2:22 GMT

    Appointing Kirsten should be a no brainer but an over-expectation from him to do what he achieved with the Indians may place both the coach and the coached into a psychological bind. Best will be to define the targets and set the objective at the outset.

    Captaincy; no one better than Botha. I do not buy he is not an automatic selection for Tests. He should be. Look at Dhoni; he is not the most talented cricketer the Indians have at the moment, but they cannot afford to miss out on his leadership assets.

    Wisdom lies in choosing the right when time is ripe. ABD idea is great but better if SA let him concentrate on his perceived essentials for a while longer, rather than stress him too early.

  • on April 12, 2011, 20:53 GMT

    Of course the SA public would love too see if Gazza's magic can deliver Protea success beyond the artifice of merely topping the rankings. Choose wisely, Cricket SA.

  • on April 12, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    @Sriram TB You are trying too hard to be a cricket neutral here.Only cricketing talent does not merit success.South Africa and Australia don't have spin talents to start with.South Africa has always been a consistent side but they faltered almost every time in knockout matches.If I want my batsmen to perform against any side it has to be Pakistan.India is no champion side but there is none currently now.It has to be the best from the pack of these flawed teams.No one is invincible and that adds beauty to the game.I don't understand the need for mentioning the past Australian teams here?

  • Robster1 on April 12, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    Kirsten would be the ideal choice as coach for at least the next four years, and for now that's the most important issue that needs addressing.

  • on April 12, 2011, 16:46 GMT

    I think the most efficient man in South African squad to captain is non other than AB...Since he is doing wicket keeper Job like Dhoni ...so that he may win the next world cup for SA like Dhoni....AB coupled with Kirsten yields the same result...We have to wait and watch.....

  • on April 12, 2011, 12:08 GMT

    For Me AB is the best current batsman in the world, I have no doubt on it. But for the captiancy the best is cool headed Amla. He may not be include in the T20 squad but test and 50over cricket are the two major format to be cosiderd.

  • on April 12, 2011, 12:02 GMT

    thats keplers opinion...and his opinion means nothing..he was a very negative batsmen and captain as well...stood and slip and picked his nose...why dont we get someone to write on having hashim amlas as captain...if im not mistaken hashim has captained the under 19's to world cup success in newzealand..next world cup in oz and new zealand..time to leave nagativity and become positive..amla u go my man

  • zimbos_05 on April 12, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    Amla should be captain. He has the calmest head on the field. He always is on the team list and he always performs for the team. AB has enough pressure as it is filling in as Wicket keeper.

  • on April 12, 2011, 10:41 GMT

    Gazz Botha - South Africa has the best bowling attack in the world-Head and shoulders above anyone else.Remind me again, who is the bowling coach? Who has coached steyn and morkel to where they are? Who has worked with parnell and lopsy and others?Not Donald my man. That man has been Barnes and he has been the bowling coach for more than 8 years. Give the man his due and dont let previous(you know what I mean) bias cloud your acknowledgement of the best bowling coach SA has ever had.

  • on April 12, 2011, 9:13 GMT

    @mafiasam: hope u didnt c this wc, as sa beat india in india....and world champions means not just winning the wc, it means u have 2 beat every country in their own backyard, which aus used 2 do so well and thats y they were called as world champions, let india prove that they are world champions by beating others or else wc is just a cup won by india........

  • on April 12, 2011, 9:10 GMT

    @Arjun Strikes: coming close 2 victory and victory are 2 different things.... so win the series around the world first then talk......

  • on April 12, 2011, 9:07 GMT

    intcamd - AB is a middle order batsman in tests, he rarely keeps, Boucher does. Doesn't mean they can't both play though...

  • on April 12, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    Well i would still prefer someone like an Amla for Captaincy he seems to have an cool head and he seems to have that calming effect.

  • dariuscorny on April 12, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    the problem is with their players.not with the coach.keep anyone but if they play with this choking habit no coach can help them.i can see de villiers failing in every crunch match be it the knockouts or the decider of a series.just see Aussies.kiwis so strong mentally.they lift their game when adversity arrives in their way

  • on April 12, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    All this talk of pressure on AB due to this keeping, are we all in the same world where the successful captains are WK. The finals of the WC was played by 2 teams with WK as captains, get real guys. Captain needs to be cool, tempered and respected, needs to lead from the front. I think AB is a good choice, be him keeping or not, period.

  • hansie_gill_ on April 11, 2011, 23:09 GMT

    Yes ***GARY and A B D combination may bring some hope in RSA cricket.But ..WESSELS is the most powerful choice......;Who care ????????

  • ElPhenomeno on April 11, 2011, 20:02 GMT

    I'd suggest CSA should get in touch with Greg Chapell for the job as soon as possible and recall Andre Nel for captaincy.

  • on April 11, 2011, 19:13 GMT

    kirsten and ab a must , AB has prove to everybody and the world who and what he is and he is big icon in SA itself, he is a singer and evrybody loves him and he is a hardworker only if he does not take the gloves, Kirsten pick himself if he wants it, otherwise Buchanham he is avery experience coach, barnes no no , keep him as bowling coach not the best even but okey, sa will cry when Australia take AD, but sorry is always to late

  • intcamd on April 11, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    AB is a certainty in the tests? How? What about Boucher?

  • SachinLara1 on April 11, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    @Sriram TB: hw abt india's win against Sa in durban n win against oz in perth... even in d 1st test in centurion n 2nd test in durban india were forced 2 bat 1st in really tough situation 4 any batsman....

  • deepman on April 11, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    If SA really wants to win the WC it needs a strong captain who's an inspirational leader,a strategist,quick thinker,somebody who can get the best out of his men and a cool head. Imran,Ranatunga,Waugh,Dhoni had most of these attributes.If they are not able to find somebody of that calibre immediately they should go for somebody who can steady the ship for a while. And yes their support staff does really need a lot of improvement.A good coach who's a good man manager and a decent mental conditioning coach like Upton should be a good idea.

  • mafiasam on April 11, 2011, 15:47 GMT

    @ Rahul, I agree with you, My favorite team after India who I would like to see succeed in ICC events. I so badly wanted India vs SA final, so even if India lost, then I wud be happy for Saffers. That was not to be, but no regrets since Little Master finally got to lift the WC :D

  • mafiasam on April 11, 2011, 15:36 GMT

    Hey Sriram TB, funny you mention the quality of Cricket India can't seem to offer like Aus and SA... Were you watching this WC? or were u day dreaming abt SA beating India to be no1 test team?

  • Kev75 on April 11, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    Why don't you get AB to open the batting as well ... we all saw how well that worked for Alec Stewart's career ... captain, keeper, key lower order batsmen. It's too much for one player to be expected to focussed in all key areas all the time. If AB captains, then SA needs to stop their ridiculous experiment of him as a makeshift keeper.

  • on April 11, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    Firstly, South Africa needs to find a very good young wicket-keeper who can average in the low-30s... you need to take some pressure off AB if he is to become the captain... he is South Africa's Star Batsmen as welll... I think Graeme Smith should keep the Test Captaincy for the next 2 years or sooo... it'll be a good testing ground for the other captain... SA doesn't need whole-sale changes... they have a young core of players in all forms and only Kallis and Boucher will move onto retirement in the near future... apart from them, the team is very young and has more potential than any other in Int'l Cricket... Amla' if he accepts... would also make a very good captain... Botha has

  • on April 11, 2011, 13:57 GMT

    lot of Indian guys are having too much concern over Cricket South Africa. Any ways India loves south African cricket. Good luck Kirsten... we love you.. never forget what you gave us...

  • Jim1207 on April 11, 2011, 13:24 GMT

    @Joy Macwan: You almost got it right regarding SA players' attitude. The problem is they actually try very hard indeed during world cup knock-out matches. Instead, they should be in their natural self, playing natural game in ICC knockout games. That's the reason they play so well when you see them in IPL or other bilateral series. The need for South Africa is a coach / mental conditioning coach who makes them play naturally in all situations, which they clearly could not do even with having one of the best talented team every time. The day they do that, world cup would be in their hands, Till then it would be only elusive. That was also the difference between India's 2007 and 2011 campaigns. But I don't see Gary Kirsten coaching International team at least for one year, please give him a break. He needs rest and time with family, he has told it numerous times. Those who believe otherwise would only get disappointed.

  • Pathiyal on April 11, 2011, 13:03 GMT

    people here have many different things to say. as a professional, gary must have learnt an extra bit from his experiences with team india. now, as a s african, he must be already thinking in the direction of making team SA the best one day and test team. that way, i feel very happy for him. i dont think its about money all the time.

  • on April 11, 2011, 12:32 GMT

    I cant understand the animosty the South African public has towards Greaam Smith.He is just 30 and he has another world cup in him.I feel rather than slating him all the time of him being arrogant or brash or whatever he is one chap who made you guys win in Australia and England and he leads from the front.I do aggree he is not in the best of form these days but guys Smith i would still keep him as the test captain.I am not so sure Devillars.He is your best batsmen and i dont know if you would wish to burden him with captancy pressure.Maybe they can try out someone like an Amla for an intermin period because he seems to be an calming influence among all the south african players

  • on April 11, 2011, 12:27 GMT

    Sriram if you feel indians play fast bowling badly then how would you describe indias victory in durban where it is supposed to be the fastest pitch nd also we came close to beating u guys in the third test.Even in ODIs where india were without sehwag,sachin,gambhir,praveen kumar we managed to get a decent result of 2-3

  • CricketChat on April 11, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    AB and Gary combination seems logical solution, but would Gary accept it right away after turning down to extend his Ind contract which he would have got on his terms, since coaching SA side will involve lots of travel and time away from family which seemed to be his concern?. Also, don't like the 'same Captain for all 3 formats' theory. That the 3 formats need different kind of skills and temperament and would definitely wear out any player given the amount of international cricket is played in recent times. I think for 'Test and ODIs' it should be AB and Botha for T20s.

  • on April 11, 2011, 11:45 GMT

    @subu: sa not able 2 play spin is a story of the past...if u remember sa is the only country 2 whitewash india 2-0 in india in 2000....and they have drawn many test series in india... at the same time india have never ever won any series in sa...& the ability of indian batsmen 2 play fast bowling on pacy pitches is still a big question mark.... if india was good at playing fast bowling they shud have been able 2 win a test series in aus or sa which they never have.... and winning the wc is not easy i do admit that, but the tough thing is to maintain the world champion status for the next 4 years & prove that u r worthy 2 be the world no.1

  • on April 11, 2011, 11:40 GMT

    " D.Pramod: money is not everything...india may offer him more money but kirsten is not the one who gives more value for money than other things.... as far as talent is considered there is no doubt that sa is the best & being sa's coach kirsten can spend more time with his family for sure...and as far cricketing challenges have been concerned nothing just beats an aus-sa match, although aus are bit low now i am sure they will bounce back...on the other hand ind-pak matches have always been hyped up due to the political problems between the two nations and not for the cricketing qualities these 2 countries can offer....

  • homebound on April 11, 2011, 11:21 GMT

    what about Kallis? why hasn't he been considered? ok, if it's the age factor, he is certainly going to be around for another 2 years. India gave Kumble the captaincy when he was 37 and he led the side well during a good transition period before MSD could take over. i don't know if Kallis has a personal reluctance to be captain, otherwise it is a great shame that he is not even being considered. a 2 years for Kallis at the helm would be great for SA before AB or Amla takes over.

  • on April 11, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    guess this is right combination ..I would love to see Devilliers with Kirsten the new era .....

  • on April 11, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    This is a great story, and the comments on it are generally very well made points. I would just like to add my two cents worth.

    Firstly, I too believe that Gary Kirsten and AB De Villiers would be a good combination going forward. I still see a role for Graeme Smith as test opening batsman, but I doubt he's gonna necessarily be around at international level for the next 4 years, so better we make the change NOW. (Like the Ausdsies have done with Ponting). My only hope is that Gary will take the job!!

    In respect of splitting the captaincy - I'm also largely in favour of having the same guy for Test & ODI, and if he's a cert for T20, then the same guy for all three. (If it were AB, that would be the route to go, cos he's brilliant at all 3 formats!!)

    As regards spinners, at this stage, I would select as follows (in each case, in order of preference): Tests - Tahir; Peterson; Botha ODI - Tahir; Botha; Peterson T20 - Botha; Peterson; Tahir

  • bala-chala on April 11, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    AB De Villiers is a player on the cusp of greatness. He will probably be the Tendulkar of South Africa in the next couple of years. The burden of captaincy will weigh him down just like it did sachin.

  • on April 11, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    @Ajay Pandu, please tell how the Number 1 ranked ODI batsman is not a 'certain selection' for the ODI team????

  • Subu on April 11, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    Kirsten and AB will be an ideal combination. South Africa should primarily improve their technique in playing against Real Spinners in turning tracks to be called an Allround team. India in the last 10 years have started producing players who have showed signs of surviving and winning in Bouncy conditions and have never lost their expertise in playing spin. More than having Spinners in the team, it is very important to have Batsmen who can play the Spinners and negate their threat. In all their KO matches in World cup, they have been laid low primarily by their lack of self belief against Spinners ( Warne in 99, Harper/ J Adams in 96 and N Mccullum/ Vettori in 2011). The only exception was in 2007 when they panicked before Tait/McGrath. They also need to translate a couple of their Middle order players as mentally tough Crisis player/Finishers who finishes their game ; In the current team, only AB and Faf Du Plessis have that toughness and Amla/Kallis never finish the game.

  • D.Pramod on April 11, 2011, 7:31 GMT

    I can't understand this - Kirsten has ended his India stint because he apparently wants to spend more time with his family. South Africa being a premier cricketing nation have as demanding a touring schedule as India. Even if he takes on the SA job he will still not get as much time with his family as he wants.

    In such a case he would be better off sticking with India - South Africa can certainly never offer him the remuneration that the BCCI could give. And if cricketing challenge is what he is after, India face a significant transition period ahead - Sachin, Dravid, VVS and slightly later Sehwag and Zaheer - building a competitive and well-knit unit post these players' exit will be yet another significant feather in Kirsten's cap.

  • on April 11, 2011, 7:25 GMT

    Ajay you made the biggest joke of the year by saying Amla isnt certain in ODIs.He was second in the ICC ODI Rankings from last one year.He might not be the slam bang type of guy.His strike rate is pretty good and he plays proper cricketing shots

  • on April 11, 2011, 6:44 GMT

    i have my doubts if kirsten will be as successful if he becomes coach of SA as he was with India. India and SA are similar in many respect , in terms of diversity , it will be difficult for an SA coach to bring the team together . SA should go for a non SA coach just like India goes for a non Indian coach.

  • raddoc001 on April 11, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    In response to Joy Macwan's comment about unsporty wicket: what excuse would you use for SA's peformance at home in 2003? Rather tnan blaming the conditions we should accept the fact that they were not good enough.

  • Umair_umair on April 11, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    Cricinfo. Check your link to Graeme Smith's profile. It is taking us to a 25 year old Australian Graeme Smith. lolz.

  • c3vzn on April 11, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    @AjayPandu Amla is averaging 57 at a S/R of 92 in ODI's after 49 matches. He is an absolute certainty in the format.

  • Major_Hammad on April 11, 2011, 6:16 GMT

    AB Devillears should be caption and Dale Steyn as voice caption in all fomats, as both are best performer for south africa and both enough cricket still!!!!!!!! One Best batsman as caption and one best bowler as voice caption will be right choice..... Both has match winning abiliites and their own performance.......

  • on April 11, 2011, 6:11 GMT

    Amla is a good one-day batsman n certainly one of the best South African test batsman. Don't know much about him besides his batting but I think he can make a good captain.

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    Seriously speaking, Gary can't solve their problems overnight. That middle order will have to learn how to play under pressure better, if they want to address the real issue at hand.

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:33 GMT

    Devilliers is the Right man to Captain SA.Hashim Amla cannot be selected for a T20 neither he is a certain selection for ODI..Johan Botha is only good for a T20, He is not a certain selection for ODI with Imran Tahir now in the Team..Also he is not of much use in Tests having Tahir and Robin Peterson..

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    I wanted South Africa to win the world cup since 1999, but for many reasons they haven't won it yet. I feel sorry that they had to play on a very slow and unsporty track (with which they are not familiar) while chasing in that world cup 2011 Quarter Final against New Zealand. But, if they wanted to win the cup, they got to be ready in any playing conditions. Sometimes, it seems that they have no passion to win the world cup. I mean the way, Duminy and Botha got out in that Q/F and Du Plessis was involved in A B De Villiers run out. Why Botha/Duminy could not hang there ? When I see Botha and A B doing so well in IPL, I feel that they have to try very hard every time.

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:12 GMT

    gary will be the perfect coach for safrica. they deserve a coach like him

  • smudgeon on April 11, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    I wasn't even aware that Smith was retiring from ODIs. It's a shame, but I guess this means we still get to see him in tests. de Villiers is the obvious choice for ODI captain, let's hope he makes a good fist of it. He's certainly got his work cut out for him - I still can't quite believe that a team as good as SA have been in the last two decades is yet to win an ICC trophy.

  • wambling_future on April 11, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    I don't agree that the captain "should" be same in all 3 formats. It can be different like England. Strauss for ODIs and Tests and Collingwood for T20, though this might change now. For South Africa, AB for ODIs and Tests while Botha for T20s doesn't sound bad. And I guess among the current crop of players only Kallis, Smith and Boucher(in Tests) have played alongside with Kirsten. So if he gets the coaching Job I don't think it would matter anything to coach players whom he had played alongside with, since there aren't many.

  • on April 11, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    Kirsten- De Villiers certainly looks an awesome combination. Hopefully they will win a major trophy soon. Everybody know that they deserve it. I dont quite agree with Wessels on the point that the current South African team is not as strong as the Indian team. Agreed that no other team can match Indian batting on subcontinent conditions but South Africans have a better all round side which can perform well on all conditions. They need to be mentally stronger like the current Indian side and they need to strengthen the lower middle order. Also perhaps a good wicket keeper batsman. The burden of batting,captaincy and wicket-keeping will be too much on De Villiers.

  • Bagapath on April 11, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    click on the link to graeme smith's player page given above. pretty good april fool prank by cricinfo.

  • on April 11, 2011, 4:43 GMT

    Other than India....I've always supported South Africa. I was very disappointed when they lost to Australia in that forgettable semi-final in 1999. Surely they have it in them to win at least one ICC trophy. I'll always be rooting for them whenever India is not in the contention.

  • donda on April 11, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    Ab deviliers and Gary Kristen are perfect combination for south africa for next 4 years. I am damn sure that Ab deviliers has a legend in him and south africa just need to pump him up and give him confidence , he can do wonders. He can play some of the most unbelievable crickets shots on planet earth.

    Garry kristen needs to application form to win, he has proved his worth with India where he might be putting 75% but with SA he will put 150% because its his own country. SA needs captain with temprament and courage and AB is the man.

  • Narbavi on April 11, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    we all want southafricans to throw away the chokers tag!! they have a wonderful side but they do fall apart in a bizarre fashion....not sure whether gary would take up the job immediately...he may want to spend time with his family alone right now...but he could take it after 15 months or so...regarding captaincy...de villiers is the right man...he is the man in form and also brings in a lot of energy on to the field which is very much essential for a good captain!! good luck to southafrican cricket to move forward!!

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  • Narbavi on April 11, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    we all want southafricans to throw away the chokers tag!! they have a wonderful side but they do fall apart in a bizarre fashion....not sure whether gary would take up the job immediately...he may want to spend time with his family alone right now...but he could take it after 15 months or so...regarding captaincy...de villiers is the right man...he is the man in form and also brings in a lot of energy on to the field which is very much essential for a good captain!! good luck to southafrican cricket to move forward!!

  • donda on April 11, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    Ab deviliers and Gary Kristen are perfect combination for south africa for next 4 years. I am damn sure that Ab deviliers has a legend in him and south africa just need to pump him up and give him confidence , he can do wonders. He can play some of the most unbelievable crickets shots on planet earth.

    Garry kristen needs to application form to win, he has proved his worth with India where he might be putting 75% but with SA he will put 150% because its his own country. SA needs captain with temprament and courage and AB is the man.

  • on April 11, 2011, 4:43 GMT

    Other than India....I've always supported South Africa. I was very disappointed when they lost to Australia in that forgettable semi-final in 1999. Surely they have it in them to win at least one ICC trophy. I'll always be rooting for them whenever India is not in the contention.

  • Bagapath on April 11, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    click on the link to graeme smith's player page given above. pretty good april fool prank by cricinfo.

  • on April 11, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    Kirsten- De Villiers certainly looks an awesome combination. Hopefully they will win a major trophy soon. Everybody know that they deserve it. I dont quite agree with Wessels on the point that the current South African team is not as strong as the Indian team. Agreed that no other team can match Indian batting on subcontinent conditions but South Africans have a better all round side which can perform well on all conditions. They need to be mentally stronger like the current Indian side and they need to strengthen the lower middle order. Also perhaps a good wicket keeper batsman. The burden of batting,captaincy and wicket-keeping will be too much on De Villiers.

  • wambling_future on April 11, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    I don't agree that the captain "should" be same in all 3 formats. It can be different like England. Strauss for ODIs and Tests and Collingwood for T20, though this might change now. For South Africa, AB for ODIs and Tests while Botha for T20s doesn't sound bad. And I guess among the current crop of players only Kallis, Smith and Boucher(in Tests) have played alongside with Kirsten. So if he gets the coaching Job I don't think it would matter anything to coach players whom he had played alongside with, since there aren't many.

  • smudgeon on April 11, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    I wasn't even aware that Smith was retiring from ODIs. It's a shame, but I guess this means we still get to see him in tests. de Villiers is the obvious choice for ODI captain, let's hope he makes a good fist of it. He's certainly got his work cut out for him - I still can't quite believe that a team as good as SA have been in the last two decades is yet to win an ICC trophy.

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:12 GMT

    gary will be the perfect coach for safrica. they deserve a coach like him

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    I wanted South Africa to win the world cup since 1999, but for many reasons they haven't won it yet. I feel sorry that they had to play on a very slow and unsporty track (with which they are not familiar) while chasing in that world cup 2011 Quarter Final against New Zealand. But, if they wanted to win the cup, they got to be ready in any playing conditions. Sometimes, it seems that they have no passion to win the world cup. I mean the way, Duminy and Botha got out in that Q/F and Du Plessis was involved in A B De Villiers run out. Why Botha/Duminy could not hang there ? When I see Botha and A B doing so well in IPL, I feel that they have to try very hard every time.

  • on April 11, 2011, 5:33 GMT

    Devilliers is the Right man to Captain SA.Hashim Amla cannot be selected for a T20 neither he is a certain selection for ODI..Johan Botha is only good for a T20, He is not a certain selection for ODI with Imran Tahir now in the Team..Also he is not of much use in Tests having Tahir and Robin Peterson..