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Where are West Indies' allrounders?

Apart from Dwayne Bravo, there's only one suitable candidate for the No. 6 and third-seamer position, and he's not going to be playing New Zealand

Tony Cozier

May 18, 2014

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There is one immediately evident deficiency in the West Indies training squads of 20 for their three forthcoming home Tests against New Zealand and the additional nine for the High Performance Centre's almost-simultaneous series against Bangladesh A.

It is the dearth of genuine allrounders, more specifically those capable of batting at No. 6 and bowling decent spells as third seamer in an attack liable to rely heavily on spin.

Of those called up to prepare for the New Zealand series only Dwayne Bravo, reinstated four years after his last, and 40th, Test, qualifies. His value is dependent on his full recovery from the shoulder injury sustained in the 2014 IPL and on how quickly he adjusts to the demands of five-day cricket following his extensive, almost exclusive, involvement in the abbreviated formats.

The reason for such a shortage is straightforward. With the exception of the Beausejour Stadium in St Lucia and, occasionally, Kensington Oval in Barbados, slow home pitches no longer encourage fast bowling or uninhibited batting. The effect is that bowlers resort to spin, insecure batsmen struggle, and allrounders fade away.

Throughout Darren Sammy's tenure as captain, his modest medium-pace bowling and batting position as low as No. 8 was said to be unbalancing the XI. That he should make way for someone else. In Bravo senior's absence, whether through his preference for T20 franchises or the selectors' choice, there was realistically no one else to fill the role. On Bravo's return, there is.

With no room for both in the XI, Sammy's Test averages (21.68 batting, 35.79 bowling), more than his captaincy, led to his replacement by Denesh Ramdin and his decision to quit Tests altogether.

Apart from Bravo, those summoned to pre-series camps for New Zealand and Bangladesh A contain only one other allrounder with the potential to suit the immediate requirement - and he is in the HPC, rather than the Test, squad.

Carlos Brathwaite is a strapping, 6ft 5in Barbadian who impressed the selectors enough to be chosen for a couple of white-ball matches in Bangladesh in 2011.

They subsequently lost interest until the recent domestic first-class season, when his returns included his first hundred and timely spells of lively pace. His spirited strokeplay and his bowling match his physique. More batting consistency and a little more pace would boost his worth.

His overall record after 20 matches is respectable: 811 runs at 27.96 and 51 wickets at 20. Given the current standard of domestic cricket, such numbers might be overvalued. He requires more experience to determine whether he can make the transition to the higher level.

Otherwise, the cupboard is bare, with no hint of change.

There was no allrounder in the team to the Under-19 World Cup in February. Statistically, Ashley Nurse, who bats below his station at No. 8, entered the category with a batting average of 42.57, and his maiden hundred, plus 32 wickets at 18.43 for Barbados in the 2014 first-class season, but he is primarily an offspinner.

The player who would be an ideal back-up for Bravo will be on the other side next month.

West Indies have already encountered the powerful batting and nippy bowling of New Zealand's 23-year-old left-hander, Corey Anderson. He whacked an incredible 131 from 47 balls, with 14 sixes, off them in an ODI on New Year's Day. In the preceding three Tests, he contributed useful runs and wickets.

England's Ben Stokes, 22, is another of the kind of young cricketer West Indies could do with at the moment - a left-hander capable of a Test hundred against Australia and a right-arm seamer swift enough to keep batsmen honest.

They are at the start of their careers. There is no certainty their early promise will flourish but it is better to have them now than not.

Australia (Shane Watson), Bangladesh (Shakib Al Hasan) and India (R Ashwin) presently enjoy the benefit of a solid, established allrounder. South Africa's quest to replace Jacques Kallis, unquestionably the best of his time, is sure to be long, probably futile. Vernon Philander temporarily fills the breach with his incisive new-ball bowling (112 wickets in 23 Tests at 20 each) and forthright late-order batting (average 27.45).

West Indies' problem is compounded by their bowlers' inability to contribute even marginally to the total, as Philander does for South Africa, Stuart Broad and Tim Bresnan for England, Mitchell Johnson and Mitchell Starc for Australia, and Malcolm Marshall did during West Indies' glory days in the 1980s.

The current tail-end is little more than a hat-trick waiting to happen. There were four ducks for the last four batsmen in the first innings in Wellington last December.

The overall figures are damning. In their 19 completed Test innings over the past two years (against England, New Zealand, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and India) the last four wickets average 41.68. Discount the 185 for the last wicket between Ramdin and Tino Best in the third Test against England at Edgbaston in 2012 and it plummets to an underwhelming 33.72.

A Garry Sobers comes along once in a hundred years. It is fanciful to believe another is not far off. Such greatness cannot be ordered off the internet. After Sobers retired in 1974, West Indies were still well served by competent, if not great, allrounders such as Keith Boyce, Bernard Julien and Carl Hooper.

It is an assignment for coaches in the Caribbean to promote the development of a new group. The emerging players clearly have the incentive.

Tony Cozier has written about and commentated on cricket in the Caribbean for 50 years

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Posted by Metman on (May 23, 2014, 11:22 GMT)

Carlos Brathwaite was the most promising of the all rounders before he had a serious knee injury about 2 to 3 years ago,and is only now coming back into his own.This season in the just concluded 4 day competition,he was seriously under bowled,having only bowled 99 overs in 7 matches.,with Benn and Nurse bowling 261.5 and 215 overs respectively. Brathwaite used to open batting and bowling when playing for a local club side before the injury,while Nurse is considered more of a batsman in Bdos' Elite Division Cricket,and surprisingly has more First Class wickets than local wickets.He has never been in the top ten of local bowlers since he started playing cricket here.

Posted by V_for on (May 23, 2014, 8:49 GMT)

Would Mr Cozier be asking this question if the WI administration had made any sort of effort to convince Chris Jordan to play for WI instead of England? Even when he was struggling to break into the first team at Surrey it was clear that he had huge potential yet we have let him slip through our fingers. Come on WI we need all the help we can get!

Posted by siddhartha87 on (May 23, 2014, 7:18 GMT)

i think any test XI should have genuine players instead of tits and bits players. AN all rounder should be included in the XI only if he is good enough to bat within top 6 (or top 7 if you have a really good keeper batman). In my opinion an ideal test XI should have 7 batsmen who averages between 40 and 50. And four bowlers whose strike rate is between 50-60.Good all rounders are always a luxury but that does not mean that you include any player who can ball a bit and bat a bit.

Ideal Test XI for Indies- 1.Gayle 2. Powell 3.Edwards 4.Bravo 5. Chanderpaul 6.Samuels 7.Ramnarine 8.Narine 9. Roach 10.Rampual/Miller 11.Taylor

Posted by kentjones on (May 20, 2014, 11:23 GMT)

@crockit. I hope you are not missing the point here.WI need to target the young cricketers. Encourage and develop a mindset that allows them to multitask, that is go beyond your normal skillset.Designated batters who have bowled in their junior years should be encouraged to do so at higher levels, similarly bowlers should be urged to improve their batting.Out of the many tried, one or two will come through.Lets not wait for the bright prospective allrounder, which is clearly not happening right now.Even the term should be changed to utility player, the player who can turn up when needed without either bat or ball and perform solidly, does not have to be outstanding.There are many players out there that can do that for WI. Lets identify these players and work on their abilities as well as approach and outlook on the game.Also with the young players the coaches should recognise the ones who show allround potential and hone their skills.Crockit instead of moans and cries lets strategise!!

Posted by crockit on (May 20, 2014, 8:30 GMT)


Dwayne Smith (31) came firing out of the blocks as a batter when he first played test cricket but was dropped because of poor performances. Simmons (29) has played tests and similarly performed poorly overall. Pollard (27) has good first class batting average but barely makes ODI team.

They are all fine cricketers but none warrant opportunies above either better specialist batters or better established test allrounders like Bravo and Deonarine or potential ones like Braithwaite.

As for Sobers - he does not support your case - sure he started low but he had already had a go as test opener in his teenage years and by 22 had made the then highest score in test cricket (365). Sure people go on improving in some cases well into their 30s but the 3 allrounders you and @delboy tout could at best make it to the status of test batters who bowl a bit given that they show no disposition to bowl anything above medium pace

Posted by   on (May 19, 2014, 23:45 GMT)

Any test team with Gayle and Samuels as main batsmen are destined for defeat. And please remember that a test can be only won by taking 20 wickets, which in WI still need to take about 4 more wickets.

Posted by kentjones on (May 19, 2014, 18:08 GMT)

@delboy @ crockit. Delboy I like your thinking.We must endeavour to add dimensions to our cricketers,if Simmons can bowl, we can discover how good by giving him the opportunity, along with others I mentioned in a previous post, Barnwell should be added to this list.Mr. Crockit, you are demonstrating the kind of myopic vision that is part of the problem Mr. Cozier has emphasized. If we cannot get allrounders, then lets make a few.Remember the greatest of all Sobers, started as a bowler and his batting was so inconsequential that he came in low down in the order.Imagine if he decided to remain a bowler, the world would have missed out on a genius.All may not fit the bill, but just perhaps we can find one or two to do the job, or maybe another Sobers!!! We in the WI must become more creative in our thinking.For instance we lament the fact that the tailenders cant bat, but what have we done at the coaching level to address this situation. have we encouraged our youngsters to multitask?

Posted by   on (May 19, 2014, 14:19 GMT)

Christopher Barnwell......

Posted by   on (May 19, 2014, 12:47 GMT)

please no andree russel .he never performer.can we have reliable allrounder?

Posted by crockit on (May 19, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

DelBoy - Mr Cozier is referring to tests - Smith, Simmons and Pollard would not be significant wicket takers in the longer format.

Interesting article Mr Cozier where your description of a couple of up-coming players actually shows the cupboard is not so bare at all. What has to be considered is the need for a squad to cover the eventualities one faces.

On a flat slow track in the Windies or a spinning one in the subcontinent two front-line spinners may be called for but in that context one only really needs a third seamer if one of the two seamers breaks down. By contrast on a more seaming track why would one play two spinners rather than one and three frontline seamers? Having guys who can hold a place with one suit but also perform at least ok in another is simply a bonus - Windies have both Deonarine and Bravo and a little bit of ok part-time from Gayle and Samuels. I appreciate your point that it would be useful if more runs came from the bowlers.

Posted by delboy on (May 19, 2014, 8:08 GMT)

The WI number 6 batting position could easily be filled by either Dwayne Smith, Lendl Simmons or Kieron Pollard. I feel Simmons wants to be there more and provides some bowling and wicket keeping backup.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (May 19, 2014, 7:49 GMT)

Have I missed something? When did the squads get announced?

Posted by b4u8me2 on (May 19, 2014, 1:22 GMT)

Tony Cozier appeared a little confused in his article. He discounted Ashley Nurse from selection because Nurse is a spinning all rounder yet he was comparing WI lack of all rounders to other teams with spinning all rounders such as Hasan of Bangladesh and Ashwin of India. WI is better off playing a genuine batsman at number 6. Our fast bowlers don't make any runs because they often dont have a genuine batsman at the other end. So they do what fast bowlers - do and slog until they get out. Cozier compares WI tail enders to that of SA and AUS but SA had genuine batsmen all the way down to no. 7 before Kallis left and Smith and Haddin for AUS batting number 6 and 7 who makes the tail wag. WI batting stopped at no. 5 after Chanderpaul. What does he expect the tail to do? With Ramdin showing good signs of improvement at no. 7 WI now needs a genuine no. 6. Opposition bowlers are more motivated when they are bowling to two tail enders than when a genuine batsman is still at the crease.

Posted by kentjones on (May 19, 2014, 0:43 GMT)

Mr. Cozier thanks again for your article. Whilst there is a dearth in true allrounders in the WI game, there is no lack of players with potential to be allrounders. I refer to present players like Gayle, Samuels, Simmons, Rampaul,Narine, Pollard.Why wait for the genuine allrounder to come along. With proper coaching,developing and nurturing the right mindset the above players can become effective allrounders for the team.Taylor has scored a test century, Rampaul scored 85 in ODI, Gayle twice took 5 wickets in an innings, Samuels 4 for 13. Narine started as a batsman in his early days in Trinidad, Simmons is a slow medium bowler and of course Pollard, who with his height could be more effective and add variation as a bowler and already shows potential to bat long innings with three first class centuries. Lets encourage the present players to add other dimensions to their game. Lets explore the potential of the young players to be multifaceted in their game.It all starts with coaching!

Posted by Nerk on (May 18, 2014, 23:51 GMT)

"Slow home pitches no longer encourage fast bowling or uninhibited batting." Has the quality of the pitches ruined the Windies cricket team? I would like to see an article on the standard of grounds used below test level, right down to the grass roots. The viability of a top-down change rarely works anywhere, cricket especially. It would seem that the Windies need to invest in a modernisation of their system, right down to the lowest level.

Posted by   on (May 18, 2014, 21:21 GMT)

Always reckoned Andre Russell would make the grade. Not sure he's willing, though. Pity.

Posted by LIBRAS_RULE on (May 18, 2014, 19:42 GMT)

If you ask me its time we make batsmen and bowlers carry their weight. History has shown that 9 times out of 10 when our so called all rounders perform with the bat they fail with the ball and when they perfrom with the ball they fail with the bat. So i say we should play 5 bowlers and 5 batsmen and the keeper who now has to take on the role as the 6th batsman really. est Indies have been trying the same methods for 12 years so its time for a new strategy. 5 bowlers and 5 batsmen

Posted by WIFL on (May 18, 2014, 19:42 GMT)

Dear West Indies Cricket board. The only West Indian batsman that was thrown into test cricket at age 19 in the last 20 years and the leading West Indian batsman is Shivnarine Chandapaul. Of all our young cricketers we have tried only Ramnarace Sarwan comes to mine his batting average is only bettered by Chanderpaul, and everyone knows why Sarwan is not on the team and i am not sure Sarwan has that hunger to play for West Indies. My observation for the failure of our cricketers is that we invest in them from age 15 to 19, then we stop investing in them so we lose them. With the exception of Lara and chanderpaul our players take a longer time to develop than most cricketers around the world, so my plead to all boards is to have an under23 and A team and continue to invest and develop our young cricketers until they can bridge the Test Gap. I know the question of money comes to the fore, find it or leave WI cricket alone.

Posted by   on (May 18, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

This is one question I have often pondered ... How could the side with the greatest allrounder of all in Sir Garfield have so little else to offer in that department? from learie Constantine to Gerry Gomez to julien, Boyce,etc. I suppose the closest would have to be the Collie Smith who passed away tragically early. I had hopes for Franklyn Stephenson in the 1980s but he never made it after going on a rebel tour. Since then we have Hooper, who underachieved, and even Gayle whose off spinners have fallen away. I am delighted to see the return of Dwayne bravo who is actually the most balanced Windee all rounder in the last 30 years. And also of Jerome Taylor, whose batting I had hopes for when he cracked a test century in 2008. I still believe a 6,7,8 of Dwayne bravo, Dinesh Ramdin and Jerome Taylor would give the team batting depth, especially since Rampaul and Roach can also apply themselves. Now how about Sarwan as opener alongside Gayle? :)

Posted by wirus on (May 18, 2014, 16:28 GMT)

Whilst it is a fact that WI lack quality all rounders apart from Bravo, it is also true that team balance and common sense selection policy are even more important. The fact that players like Gayle, who has been failing for quite some time, Samuels who never recovered from that blow from Malinga and Powell whose form has simply not recovered are still being considered for selection in this series says all one needs to know. NZ left arm quicks must be chomping at the bit to bowl across Gayle's body with a packed slip cordon. Yet Kirk Edwards, Brathwaite and Blackwood are likely to be overlooked despite being leading run scorers. It seems inevitable that 2 quicks and 2 spinners backed up by Bravo will be the bowling attack, which is fine. But WI need 6 in-form, hungry, focussed batsmen to put a good score on the board if they are to avoid further humiliation. We have got to get serious about team selection and stop picking players on the basis of their names.

Posted by FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on (May 18, 2014, 15:46 GMT)

A tail of J.Taylor, J.Holder, S.Narine and K.Roach should be able to muster a few runs - and let's be honest, if the batting unit was stronger, they wouldn't be under pressure to add to the measly contributions made earlier. Another young, talented all-rounder would be a nice find though...

Posted by tutorial on (May 18, 2014, 14:27 GMT)

MR.Cozier i disagree with the Carlos Brathwaite scenario. WI. have experience guys like Pollard, Bravo and Deonarine, also Samuels who can bowl. WICB. should focus on building an experience and wining team, only then you can start including the younger and inexperience first class players. The team should be:1 Gayle,2 Powell, 3 Bravo, 4 Samuels, 5 Chanderpaul, 6 Pollard, 7 Ramdin, 8 Bravo, 9 Narine, 10 Rampaul, 11 Roach, 12 Deonarine. If Pollard or Bravo fails replace with deonarine and if Rampaul or Roach fails replace with Taylor, also have to start looking for a pair of opening batsmen to replace Gayle if he continues to be LAZY and Powell for his inconsistency, but one at a time not both at the same time. The batting line up has to be a strong one and also consistent. Have to play Narine because of the pitches in the WI.

Posted by aclarity on (May 18, 2014, 14:22 GMT)

Is Cozier making an argument for the re-selection of Dwayne Bravo? If so he has indirectly shined the light on Mr. Pybus and the WICB. They made the easy decision to fire Sammy but failed in the more pressing areas on the Coach and selectors. No player has improved under Coach Gibson. It's the players fault. We have a short FC season and the selectors seem to use average or returning resident philosophy as the basis for selection. In fact the best indicators are the eye test and what have you done in the last 18months. I do not think our selectors watch enough tape. Had they done so, Bonner would be a sure pick. They would have seen that Matthew set up many of the wickets that Peters got and Matthews is the most consistent line and length fast bowler. He is required as a foil for the other three bowlers.

Posted by WIFL on (May 18, 2014, 14:00 GMT)

Dwayne Bravo asked the selectors what he has to do to regain his place on the team. Well they have afforded him the opportunity by relieving Sammy of his captaincy. I think Dwayne real asset to the team is his batting, and must give serious consideration to improving his batting. His fielding has always been great and his bowling will help to reinforce his allround ability. Best of luck Dwayne. I would also like the selectors to give consideration to Keiron Pollard and Dwayne Smith. I know this may sound strange to West Indians but Pollard and Smith are maturing as players. Please do not give up on them.

Posted by stormy16 on (May 18, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

The issue these genuine alrounders who bat as 6 and bowl are simply hard to come by for any country. The next best is a Broad like player who is 'useful' with the bat at #8 but the concern here is you select a bowler based on his batting which is a flawed selection policy. I'm sure I am missing a few but the Windies havent really produced too many bowlers who can bat but for Marshal, Harper, cant think of much more really.

Posted by TheMiddleStump on (May 18, 2014, 12:21 GMT)

Bravo is the allrounder WI need right now. He can bat anywhere in the top 6 and can easily bowl 5-6 over spells at 80mph. With four quality bowlers in Roach, Rampaul, Taylor and Shillingford, WI's attack is well balanced.

Of the other seam-bowling allrounders in the Caribbean that I know of, only Smith, Simmons and Pollard are capable of batting the top 6 but the problem is that they are military medium pacers at best. If they could swing the ball, at least like Shane Watson, and up their pace to about 77-80 mph they could be useful 5th. But since Bravo has been obviously given the nod, a 2nd spinner in the form of a batting allrounder is needed. Samuels and Deonarine spring to mind being able to bat in the top 6 but their problem is that they rarely fulfill their main role as batsmen.

XI for NZ Series (if everyone is fit in time):

1)Gayle 2)Powell 3)Bravo 4)Samuels 5)Chanderpaul 6)Bravo 7)Ramdin 8)Taylor 9)Rampaul 10)Shillingford 11)Roach

Posted by EnglishCricket on (May 18, 2014, 11:13 GMT)

Players like Philander, Broad etc bat way too low down the order. Everyone knows how easy it is to bat when the ball has no shine and is pretty old compared to a ball that is like upto 40 overs old. A true genuine all-rounder is one that has the ability to do well bat and ball across all forms and is the difference in the team winning matches. Sadly, Cricket has very few proper all-rounders.

Posted by blink182alex on (May 18, 2014, 10:53 GMT)

You mean Stuart Broad**

For tests, the West Indies are lacking in quality batsmen to support Chanderpaul. They are also lacking quality bowlers, Roach is good but gets injured and there is no one world class after that.

I think all-rounders are the ultimate luxury, first and foremost they must be selected for one specfiic skill with the other being a bonus. Windies should just pick their best 6 batters and best 4 bowlers. The fact is it's these players who have not been good enough, not because they don't have a all rounder.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (May 18, 2014, 9:45 GMT)

Whether it may be Pollard, or Bravo, or Russell, or Smith, there is a few things they all have in common - They are no more than mediocre in their second discipline, and they don't actually play enough First Class cricket to improve. @Rally_Windies, the Aussies are the best bowling attack in the world. Thankyou.

Posted by   on (May 18, 2014, 9:44 GMT)

Mr Cozier we like Vernon Philander by we have no illusions of him being a premier allrounder. We have invested a lot in Wayne Parnell being the premier allrounder in the Proteas side. We are aware that he does not have the numbers to back that up at the moment. He is a better batsman than Vernon that is for sure. Most importantly he has been fit for most of the season for the first time in a while.

Posted by   on (May 18, 2014, 8:28 GMT)

Andre Russell has the potential to become a genuine all rounder! can bowl quick and has the ability to take the game away from the opposition with his batting. He just needs to become more consistent in both disciplines and put the effort into becoming a test match cricketer as oppose to a T20 specialist.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (May 18, 2014, 8:21 GMT)

Good and interesting article. I think we need to be careful about who really can be labelled as all-rounders. A real genuine all-rounder is one whose batting average is higher than his bowling average especially across both the main formats (Tests & ODIs).

So players like Philander, Broad, Bresnan, Ashwin and Jadeja are not really proper genuine all-rounders but bowlers that can contribute with the bat at times. In other words they are bowling all-rounders.

The current good genuine all-rounders are Shakib, Watson and Hafeez but neither of them are in the quality of Sobers and Kallis both whom actually were labelled as more of batting all-rounders but still their difference in average between bat and ball was outstanding and neither if the genuine all-rounders today statistically come even close to someone like Kallis.

All-rounders today are not really the same like it was back in the 80s an 90s. In fact, there's a dearth in quality all-rounders today if you closely think about it.

Posted by   on (May 18, 2014, 7:34 GMT)

Its weird because WI team in recent time have been associated with a lot of limited overs all rounders. However none of them are anywhere near test class. I don't think Bravo will solve the bowling problem as his bowling style is more or less similar to Sammy. You would then be left to two quicks + Narine and Bravo, which is one genuine bowler too short. What they need is a bowling all rounder like Philander or Ashwin, so that there is a genuine third bowler. Otherwise the opposition just have to ward off the new ball and can score freely from one end. That would leave a spinner like Narine or Shillingford very vulnerable as they just need to be kept at bay and the scoring will be done at the other end.

Posted by jeauxx on (May 18, 2014, 6:11 GMT)

I find this a rather odd article. I am clearly no expert on WI cricket, but it's ironic that considering the WI limited overs sides are almost entirely all-rounders (D Smith, Simmons, Pollard, Russell, Samuels, etc) there is only one mentioned as suitably Test quality.

Braithwaite's FC record is good not great. Andre Russell has a great FC record, and one Test to his name in which all the quicks were smashed. Pollard remains one of the most confident and destructive batsmen in the world, and his bowling is not a lot worse than Sammy's (though his record is). Why don't they get mentions?

Posted by Rally_Windies on (May 18, 2014, 4:23 GMT)

Soo a guy with 20 1st class games and ONE 1st class century can play test cricket ! with an average of 27 ...

but Keiron Pollard with 26 1st class games and 4 1st class hundreds ,, with an average of 38....

The WI selectors contend Pollard has not played enough 1st class cricket to deserve a Test spot ....


that's nice....

and I'm glad Sammy is gone...

but when this guy fails for the entire series .. we will hear about how Charderpaul did not bat well enough to win the series ...

Posted by Rally_Windies on (May 18, 2014, 4:15 GMT)

Simple question.. simple answer:

Deonarine : Average 25 with the bat and 28 with the ball .......

the important part = 28 with the ball

That gives the WI the ability to play Rampaul, and Taylor ,, who are capable lower order batsmen .. Taylor has a Test 100 ... and then Roach and Holder ...

I contend .. Roach , Taylor, Holder (the leftie) Rampaul, Doenarine ... is the 2nd strongest bowling attack in the world after the South African attack .....

Batting we will ahve to fix..... if you can get 5 guys averaging more than 40 + Doenarine and Ramdin ....

then you can post 300 run scores regularly and dismiss the opposition for sub 300 ....

make350, dismiss the opposition for 250 .... in the 1st innings is usually the best way to WIN a test match

Posted by KunalJT on (May 18, 2014, 3:24 GMT)

*Stuart Broad, I guess, right? Interesting article, WI facing a dearth of quality all rounders and fast bowlers, after having the greatest of them in the 80s.

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