New Zealand v West Indies, 5th ODI, Hamilton January 8, 2014

Edwards, Bravo set up WI's crushing win over NZ

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West Indies 363 for 4 (Edwards 123*, Bravo 106, Powell 73) beat New Zealand 160 (Anderson 29, Miller 4-45) by 203 runs
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A few days ago, West Indies barely had enough fit players to field an XI but, almost out of nowhere, they produced an outstandingly powerful display to square the one-day series 2-2. Their victory by the overwhelming margin of 203 runs - New Zealand's second heaviest ODI defeat - was based around hundreds from Kirk Edwards and Dwayne Bravo who formed a 211-run stand for the fourth wicket in West Indies' highest ever one-day international total.

For Edwards it was his maiden ODI hundred while Bravo's was just his second in a 154-match career where his runs return have been far below what they should have been for his talent. The overall total of 363 for 4 surpassed a mark from back in 1987 when West Indies scored 360 against Sri Lanka. Although West Indies had taken the opening match in Auckland, there would have been long odds on this team producing such a performance after two insipid displays in Queenstown and Nelson.

They could hardly have wished for better conditions to try and overturn their poor batting form; a flat pitch, small ground and a fast outfield. Brendon McCullum was happy to bowl first, backing his team in a chase, but the final carnage was probably 80 runs more than he would have wanted. This was one of those occasions when mishits reached the boundary and chip shots clear them, but that is to take nothing away from the performances of Edwards and Bravo, who both produced textbook one-day innings consisting of a period of rebuilding, then increasingly fierce strokeplay as the innings progressed. The fact they did not join forces until the 25th over highlighted how dominant they were.

Edwards had not previously passed fifty (which he reached with a flick for six over midwicket) in the first ten matches of his career, but was able to start his innings from a rare position of strength after Kieran Powell, who raced to 73 off 44 balls, had dominated an opening stand of 95 in 12 overs. His hundred came from 90 deliveries with an inside edge past the stumps - the second fifty requiring 28 balls as he cut loose in excellent batting conditions. He favoured the leg side, where he hit two of his four sixes, but also drove strongly through the covers as McCullum struggled to stem the flow.

Bravo had joined Edwards with the innings at a tipping point on 143 for 3 after New Zealand had hauled back the early charge but after a few overs of consolidation - aware that West Indies did not have a huge amount of batting to follow - opened his boundary account with a six over long-off and produced the stylish strokeplay that has been so often lacking during his international career.

This, though, has been a good series for him with the bat and he moved to his hundred from 79 deliveries (his second fifty taking just 25 deliveries) in the penultimate over of the innings which was followed by his third six, straight towards the sightscreen off Kane Williamson.

The last 10 overs - six of which cost double figures for the bowlers, including 21 off the 44th bowled by Corey Anderson - produced some severe damage as West Indies scored 117 runs; the five-over block from 40-45 brought 75 runs. Although it was a tough ground to defend on, New Zealand's bowlers did not help themselves by often delivering a hittable length.

Powell, the tall left-hander, set the tone in the opening over when he collected consecutive boundaries off Tim Southee and in the paceman's next over another pull carried for six. His innings kicked into a higher gear during the sixth over of the innings, from Mitchell McClenaghan, which cost 19 runs including another six: this time it was caught, one-handed, by a supporter in the crowd which earned the lucky man a prize of NZ$100,000.

Powell's fifty came off 28 balls and he was eyeing a rapid hundred when he went to sweep McCullum and was taken on the boot. Replays showed it would have missed leg stump but Powell declined to use the review available. In the 14 overs following Powell's wicket, there were only three boundaries, the pressure helping to bring about Lendl Simmons' wicket when he drove to point, but it was the only period where New Zealand were not chasing the game.

Given what the home side achieved in Queenstown - albeit in a reduced game - they could not immediately be ruled out of the chase, but hunting down such a vast total is a very different challenge when compared to setting one. It needed a hundred from one of the top four, but instead they were all dismissed by the 11th over.

Martin Guptill was beaten by a nip-backer from Bravo, Jesse Ryder top-edged behind square, Williamson walked across his stumps to the impressive Jason Holder and Ross Taylor edged a delivery that turned from Nikita Miller. When Brendon McCullum skied into the deep, the challenge was already verging on the impossible and the sight of him losing his bat trying to slog Miller was apt given he will see this as a series victory that his team let slip from their grasp.

The final mention, though, should go to West Indies. The last two wickets came courtesy of a superb running catch from Bravo and a direct hit by Holder. They were as brilliant today as they had been woeful earlier in the series. It was only a shared series, but given their recent woes it probably felt like a lot more.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY on | January 14, 2014, 1:48 GMT

    Following up.... Neesham took 3.16 of his four overs cricklyoldbugger... but I do not see your admission of being incorrect anywhere. No variation> He took two wickets off slower balls and took 3 wickets at four an over!!! His wicket taking average is now 17. Probably the best in the team. Oops!! And your mortal enemy BMac anchored the innings, captained well, pulled the strings and we thrashed them by 81 runs. Wow!!! Yet you have gone silent in preparation of your next trolling exercise, totally ignorant of the fact that all your predictions (due to this one exception ODI loss, which Neesham NEVER played in FYI) in regards to the first T20 and your assertions about Neesham and BMac (anyone can review your comments) were 100% wrong. Print this please cricinfo? cricklyoldbugger is getting three trolling pieces an article. All without merit. It is called right of reply. Thank you.

  • POSTED BY on | January 11, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    @Crinklyoldbugger (an apt name)... Neesham had a fantastic CLT20. He was man of the match or thereabouts right through the tournament and dismissed Sangakarra, Shane Watson, MIsbah Ul Haq and a number of others... he batted at 5 or 6 and was the backbone of the Volts' MIDDLE-order hitting...he single-handedly beat the Highveldt Lions (no, really, he did).... That was an elite, pressurized, international tournament... he was like 22 years old at the time and finished with a batting average of 70 at 170 strike rate. His ODI bowling average is 21... only McClenaghan has a better wicket taking average. Yet he offers explosive batting and more than solid fielding (his catch to dismiss Davids in South Africa is still one of the best ten catches of all-time in my opinion) He scored a mature 42* versus Sri Lanka when we were dead and buried... and he had to wait 11 games to finally get a home ODI (Eden park debacle)... which remains his only home game. He's improving too.He > Munro / Ronchi.

  • POSTED BY cricketcritic on | January 10, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    Opinions for and against McCullum, but I agree with RegofPicton - his numbers tell a story. Here's how I see it: McCullum has hung up his keeping gloves and so he must now be judged for his batting abilities alone. The reality is his numbers don't stack up to allow him to continue.

    Consider some figures. In tests and ODIs combined he has batted for NZ 335 times and scored only 11 centuries, with 6 of those centuries coming against Ireland, Canada, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. As I am particular opposed to his position in the test team I note he averages 25 against both South Africa and Australia in tests, so he's not a man to stand up against the big boys either. In ODI cricket, his supposed strength, he took 29 games to register his first 50 and 143 games to register his first hundred. Fine for a keeper / batsman, but let's remind ourselves he's hung those gloves up now!

    The die is cast - he's good for a few quick runs but he is no batsman.

  • POSTED BY johnhamilton on | January 10, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    I will tell you whats stupid, thinking Taylor will get the captaincy back for the next world cup,and thinking Wright will want the coaching gig again

    Like it or not, Maccullum is our best option at the moment, to lead us into the next world cup.

    Even if his form drops further, I doubt the selectors will change anything before a world cup.

    Anyway, I like his captaincy overall since he took over in this format, taking games in isolation is naive.

    I'm looking foward to the indian series - bring it on!!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 9, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    It's international sport that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard . Wining team every time. You think Manchester United fans are happy if they keep losing but they know the players are happy. Hahaha

  • POSTED BY johnhamilton on | January 9, 2014, 20:57 GMT

    Taylor and Wright..lol!

    They were both shafted by NZ cricket, they will NEVER be back in their past positions.

    Maccullums form has been rubbish recently, and Hesson probably shouldn't have been selected, but they will be there for the next world cup.

    People need to get over the Hesson Maccullum thing and move on, I prefer Maccullum as the odi captain anyway.

    My team for the odi world cup

    Guppy, jessie, kane, ross, bmac, corey,latham,nathan mac, boult, southee,mitch

    Vettori doesn't have a contract and probably won't be around, nathan maccullum deserves his spot anyway, he is playing well

  • POSTED BY hokeypokey on | January 9, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    @22many, good side, well balanced and I think guptil would be served better down the order..latham is a the future keeper/batsmen and should playmore.. Good coach and captain too.world class both of them. @nicevans, I keep on hearing the same old stuff, "lack of form","hes a match winner"..would you rather have a happy team , than a winning team???

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 9, 2014, 16:26 GMT

    Answers here's your answers! Nz have lost 5 of the last Odis against west indies b and bangladesh 4 at home. With a very talented side. worste run of 7 Odis in years considering the opposition . Clarke dhoni bravo misbah devillers Mathews mcculllum . All bar one consistently lead by the front show courage and perform as the captain of there country . Even you mate I think can find the odd one out... Facts Taylor could be in the list and acknowledged worthy trust me mccullum is not!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 9, 2014, 16:03 GMT

    Here is your answers you are the typical nz fan that is happy to see the blackcaps underperform without any consistency. A team full of tremendous talent ! No sorry mate I'm not happy to see my captain never play a Clarke deviliers Dwayne bravo misbah dhoni ( and trust me they all do ) lead by example innings ever!!!! I'm not happy to see a talented side loose 5 of its last 7 Odis against West Indies b and bangladesh 4 at home. What answers do you need . I want a captain like every other higher ranked side in the world has nominated someone with guts less of an ego and the ability to lead by example and execute there talent sounds a bit like Williamson or Taylor to me. Get off your happy with below par arm chair. We are existing a good era of nz talent with the wrong senior staff. How can people not see that!

  • POSTED BY wainanns on | January 9, 2014, 14:52 GMT

    Well done Kirk and Dwayne it just shows the WI players can do better. Disunity is a parasite that eats away your confidence and self esteem.Please !I appeal to the powers that be whenever the WI team are touring outside of the West Indies they must employ a psychologist who deals with the mind. This would help them to believe in themselves and develop the mental skill to be competitive.

  • POSTED BY on | January 14, 2014, 1:48 GMT

    Following up.... Neesham took 3.16 of his four overs cricklyoldbugger... but I do not see your admission of being incorrect anywhere. No variation> He took two wickets off slower balls and took 3 wickets at four an over!!! His wicket taking average is now 17. Probably the best in the team. Oops!! And your mortal enemy BMac anchored the innings, captained well, pulled the strings and we thrashed them by 81 runs. Wow!!! Yet you have gone silent in preparation of your next trolling exercise, totally ignorant of the fact that all your predictions (due to this one exception ODI loss, which Neesham NEVER played in FYI) in regards to the first T20 and your assertions about Neesham and BMac (anyone can review your comments) were 100% wrong. Print this please cricinfo? cricklyoldbugger is getting three trolling pieces an article. All without merit. It is called right of reply. Thank you.

  • POSTED BY on | January 11, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    @Crinklyoldbugger (an apt name)... Neesham had a fantastic CLT20. He was man of the match or thereabouts right through the tournament and dismissed Sangakarra, Shane Watson, MIsbah Ul Haq and a number of others... he batted at 5 or 6 and was the backbone of the Volts' MIDDLE-order hitting...he single-handedly beat the Highveldt Lions (no, really, he did).... That was an elite, pressurized, international tournament... he was like 22 years old at the time and finished with a batting average of 70 at 170 strike rate. His ODI bowling average is 21... only McClenaghan has a better wicket taking average. Yet he offers explosive batting and more than solid fielding (his catch to dismiss Davids in South Africa is still one of the best ten catches of all-time in my opinion) He scored a mature 42* versus Sri Lanka when we were dead and buried... and he had to wait 11 games to finally get a home ODI (Eden park debacle)... which remains his only home game. He's improving too.He > Munro / Ronchi.

  • POSTED BY cricketcritic on | January 10, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    Opinions for and against McCullum, but I agree with RegofPicton - his numbers tell a story. Here's how I see it: McCullum has hung up his keeping gloves and so he must now be judged for his batting abilities alone. The reality is his numbers don't stack up to allow him to continue.

    Consider some figures. In tests and ODIs combined he has batted for NZ 335 times and scored only 11 centuries, with 6 of those centuries coming against Ireland, Canada, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. As I am particular opposed to his position in the test team I note he averages 25 against both South Africa and Australia in tests, so he's not a man to stand up against the big boys either. In ODI cricket, his supposed strength, he took 29 games to register his first 50 and 143 games to register his first hundred. Fine for a keeper / batsman, but let's remind ourselves he's hung those gloves up now!

    The die is cast - he's good for a few quick runs but he is no batsman.

  • POSTED BY johnhamilton on | January 10, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    I will tell you whats stupid, thinking Taylor will get the captaincy back for the next world cup,and thinking Wright will want the coaching gig again

    Like it or not, Maccullum is our best option at the moment, to lead us into the next world cup.

    Even if his form drops further, I doubt the selectors will change anything before a world cup.

    Anyway, I like his captaincy overall since he took over in this format, taking games in isolation is naive.

    I'm looking foward to the indian series - bring it on!!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 9, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    It's international sport that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard . Wining team every time. You think Manchester United fans are happy if they keep losing but they know the players are happy. Hahaha

  • POSTED BY johnhamilton on | January 9, 2014, 20:57 GMT

    Taylor and Wright..lol!

    They were both shafted by NZ cricket, they will NEVER be back in their past positions.

    Maccullums form has been rubbish recently, and Hesson probably shouldn't have been selected, but they will be there for the next world cup.

    People need to get over the Hesson Maccullum thing and move on, I prefer Maccullum as the odi captain anyway.

    My team for the odi world cup

    Guppy, jessie, kane, ross, bmac, corey,latham,nathan mac, boult, southee,mitch

    Vettori doesn't have a contract and probably won't be around, nathan maccullum deserves his spot anyway, he is playing well

  • POSTED BY hokeypokey on | January 9, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    @22many, good side, well balanced and I think guptil would be served better down the order..latham is a the future keeper/batsmen and should playmore.. Good coach and captain too.world class both of them. @nicevans, I keep on hearing the same old stuff, "lack of form","hes a match winner"..would you rather have a happy team , than a winning team???

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 9, 2014, 16:26 GMT

    Answers here's your answers! Nz have lost 5 of the last Odis against west indies b and bangladesh 4 at home. With a very talented side. worste run of 7 Odis in years considering the opposition . Clarke dhoni bravo misbah devillers Mathews mcculllum . All bar one consistently lead by the front show courage and perform as the captain of there country . Even you mate I think can find the odd one out... Facts Taylor could be in the list and acknowledged worthy trust me mccullum is not!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 9, 2014, 16:03 GMT

    Here is your answers you are the typical nz fan that is happy to see the blackcaps underperform without any consistency. A team full of tremendous talent ! No sorry mate I'm not happy to see my captain never play a Clarke deviliers Dwayne bravo misbah dhoni ( and trust me they all do ) lead by example innings ever!!!! I'm not happy to see a talented side loose 5 of its last 7 Odis against West Indies b and bangladesh 4 at home. What answers do you need . I want a captain like every other higher ranked side in the world has nominated someone with guts less of an ego and the ability to lead by example and execute there talent sounds a bit like Williamson or Taylor to me. Get off your happy with below par arm chair. We are existing a good era of nz talent with the wrong senior staff. How can people not see that!

  • POSTED BY wainanns on | January 9, 2014, 14:52 GMT

    Well done Kirk and Dwayne it just shows the WI players can do better. Disunity is a parasite that eats away your confidence and self esteem.Please !I appeal to the powers that be whenever the WI team are touring outside of the West Indies they must employ a psychologist who deals with the mind. This would help them to believe in themselves and develop the mental skill to be competitive.

  • POSTED BY wirus on | January 9, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    If you are wondering why there aren't more WI supporters here shouting for joy it is because they have seen this over and over again - boom and bust, terrific and tragic - and just can't stand the heartache of raising their hopes only to have them annihilated again. They know there are deep-seated problems at the management level of WI cricket and that sound decisions are few and far between. Having said that Bravo may just be able to lift his ODI (and maybe test) team to a place where they stop paying attention to the rubbish going on around them and actually play cricket to their potential. And whenever WI plays cricket to their potential amazing things happen, as we just witnessed!!

  • POSTED BY kiwicricketnut on | January 9, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    @ Crinklyoldbugger, you want to know why people are keen on neesham, you say he has no variations but that couldn't be further from the truth, out of all the seamers in the country neesham probably has the most variations, slower balls and quicker ones as well that can hit over 140kms, he bowls alot of change ups, bowls a good yorker as well, he gets the ball to tail into right handers so if he can develop an outswinger he will become even more usefull, a bowler like him is crucial through the middle period of an innings, look how effective mills is after his opening spell (not very) because he lacks the variations to induce false strokes that why mills hardly bowls at the death, thats southee's job but someone has to be at the other end, i think neesham could do a great job of it, we are yet to see his batting in full flight but he is not just a slogger he is a very good batsmen who can both accumulate and clear the fence when needed, hopefully thats enough reasons for you.

  • POSTED BY on | January 9, 2014, 9:01 GMT

    Cpt.Meanster thats a nice statement mate , tell me your team so I can revel when NZ beats them

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 9, 2014, 8:34 GMT

    @22many

    Not realistic.

    I highly doubt whether Taylor or Wright will ever assume or want the positions you want them in again. So therefore still no viable captain.

    Regarding the team for the world cup, I'm not sure why anyone would want to drop one of best ever odi batsman with all that experience for a world cup, especially regarding his captaincy.

    A blip in Bangladesh, and the last odi and all of a sudden Maccullum is a bad captain, talk about bad kneejerk.

    Where was the kneejerk after we won the odi series in south africa and england?

    I know Maccullums form with the bat has been poor of late,although he has scored a 50 in the 1st odi, but he is a match winner in this format. He also leads what seems to be a pretty happy unit, why on earth anyone would change that just before a world cup is beyond me.

  • POSTED BY 22many on | January 9, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    @nicevans...

    Captain....Taylor...to early for Williamson... Coach......John Wright and Shane Bond.

    Team ...Playing 11 for next years world cup Rutherford, Ryder, Williamson, Taylor, Guptil, Anderson, Latham, Vettori, Southee, Bolt, McClenagan/ Bracewell

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 9, 2014, 6:45 GMT

    @22many Again, you have just repeated yourself. You just seem intent on criticising Maccullum and Hesson without offering any answers, apart from getting rid of the captain and the coach. How about addressing the rest of my questions about replacements, selections,individual players form etc. Name you team and the reasons why etc. Its easy to have a go at a captain and coach after a performance like that, not so easy to offer answers, pretty tedious..

  • POSTED BY on | January 9, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    Big Bravo should captian WI....

  • POSTED BY 22many on | January 9, 2014, 6:13 GMT

    @regofiction CORRECTION .Bmac ODI average is 30.35 not 35....35 is his 20/20 av

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 9, 2014, 6:10 GMT

    @22many Every time we get a loss we get the inevitable tedious response that it's all the coach and captains fault, but primarily because it's Maccullum and Hesson. Since when has NZ chasing on this ground been a bad idea?. Also Maccullums dismissal came out of excellent pressure bowling when the game was slipping away. So instead of meaningless criticism, what about answers. What about Guptils technical deficiencies, ryders lack of patience, our inept bowling attack today? Is that all Maccullums and Hessons fault as well? If Maccullum should be dropped then who replaces him and why? Sure it was a hiding, but it was also a drawn series, people need to get some context, and answers if they aren't happy with the current situation. Of course the silence will be deafening when the black caps succeed again.

  • POSTED BY Crinklyoldbugger on | January 9, 2014, 5:02 GMT

    Why are people so keen on Neesham ? He is a long way short of proving himself and has just recently put some good numbers on the board. He is a predictable bowler and it will only take 2 minutes for opposition teams to work him out. He has no variation. As for Munroe he must be related to one of the selectors. Apart from one innings abroad over our winter he has done nothing...and he can't bowl..so why is he there ? Check out his recent 20/20 form...clearly the selectors haven't !

  • POSTED BY on | January 9, 2014, 2:49 GMT

    Congratulations to the Windies led by Dwayne Bravo!!

  • POSTED BY outforhatrick on | January 9, 2014, 1:49 GMT

    Good to see WI leveling the series...it will be good if they win something here say the T20 series..hope for a competitive year and see cricket

  • POSTED BY regofpicton on | January 9, 2014, 1:46 GMT

    Not sure why my posts annoy Nicevans so much - perhaps my use of numbers does it. But it's the numbers that give rise to my opinions in the first place. I know about our WC near misses, & stats from those games are very helpful. 1992 semis Cap Crowe av 114 (yes that's "the man we don't listen to"; 1996 no semis Cap Germon av 64; 2003 no semis Cap Fleming av 46 (McCullum av 21); 2007 semis Cap Fleming av 39 (McCullum av 23); 2011 semis Caps vettori av 27 & Taylor av 57 (McCullum av 43). The last sounds quite good including vKen 27*, v Zim 76*,vCan 101 (sofarsogood) BUT: vOz 16, vPak 6, vSL 14, vSA (1/4) 4, vSL (semi) 13.

    "And that's the way he plays", in other words, "When the chips are down you have to look elsewhere for the runs".

    Nicevans might be looking forward to NZ's part in the next World Cup, under a "Captain" who shows no leadership, erratic decision making and suspect batting (ODI av 35.5). If posts on cricinfo are a guide a lot of us are quite worried . . .

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 23:43 GMT

    Well done guys, going great guns this time, Kirk is a CRAFTSMAN-BATSMAN think that the other young guns should emulate the great patience he exercises. Powell fired very well but you fellas must be more consistent when carving your innings. West Indies too much two sided one time cold for long time and one time hot for too much a short time. Great job Bravo.

  • POSTED BY iceaxe on | January 8, 2014, 23:39 GMT

    congrats to Michael Morton - you lucky bugger winning 100k

    we'll put you in at first slip for the T20 game on Sunday!

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 23:37 GMT

    I completely agree with Rounchi being left out. The demands of an international keeper in the modern game requires a destructive batsman - Think McCullum, Gilly, Haddin, Sangakkara, Matty Wade. While I know that Rounchi is capable with the bat he reminds me of the keeper of yesteryear where keeping was their essential ability and you hoped that they chimed in with a quickfire 20 or 30 at the end of the innings (ala Ian Smith or Tony Blaine). While there wasn't much resistance with the rest of the batting order, they all pocess the strike power to be brilliant and I wouldn't touch them. BJ Watling has proved to be a very handy test bat. Has he had a chance in the shorter forms?

  • POSTED BY Whirl-traveller on | January 8, 2014, 23:12 GMT

    Everyone is an armchair analyst including me. This is my take on the West Indies situation. There is no doubt that some of the finest talent in the cricketing world resides in these islands but the fundamental reason that the team is performing as is has been lies squarely with the administration and leadership off the field. This malfunction, for want of a better word, manifests itself on field. I may be entirely wrong, but it seems to me that the leadership needed has nothing to do with the technical aspect of cricket. As someone who has been in leadership positions most of my life, I know that placing someone who may be good at coaching bowlers or even batting is totally inadequate qualification for leadership. So, West Indies, conduct a proper review and I am certain that you will eventually place someone qualified to lead behind the scenes and remember that unless you change what has been done over the last several years, you will continue to get the identical results.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 22:56 GMT

    Supporting the West Indies is the epitome of Love/Hate relationships. I refused to watch this last game expecting another inept performance...... now I find myself regretting to have missed it...... serves me right!

  • POSTED BY yetigoat on | January 8, 2014, 22:52 GMT

    B McCullum, please please please retire from international cricket and go play the hit and giggle stuff in India. You are inconsistent at best as a batsman, and attacking captaincy isn't the best ALL of the time. And take your mate Hesson with you Rant over

  • POSTED BY cricketcritic on | January 8, 2014, 22:48 GMT

    @nicevans - time to admit you are either Brendon McCullum or Mike Hesson trolling this site! That said I agree that BM is still worth his place in the ODI side, though he certainly isn't worth his place in the test side. However, it was very interesting to see highlights of BM playing a match winning innings in a Hamilton ODI a few years back - it just served to highlight how far his game has slipped. Hesson must go, the players must find it hard to listen to a guy who could hardly hold a bat yet alone use one. My biggest fear is that with NZ starting to assemble some really good personnel, helped greatly by the return of Ryder, Hesson's woeful inability will be concealed by a team that wins anyway.

  • POSTED BY Crinklyoldbugger on | January 8, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    This loss by NZ to probably the worst team to ever tour this country needs to be closely examined. Why did Mills and McLenaghan have overs left in the tank ? When the going gets tough Mills is not to be seen. He rarely bowls the death overs. What is this pre-occupation with Ronchi ? If Latham isn't the man ( and at this stage I am not sure he is the better keeper) then what about De Border ? Ronchi is average at best. Very poor leadership which starts from the top. How can a man ( Mr Hesson) who has never played cricket at any decent level have a clue how to manage a sports team at this level of international sport.

  • POSTED BY Alexei on | January 8, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    I hope this means the selectors will allow a Narine-Miller partnership in the Tests now. Miller deserves his second chance in his preferred format. I always liked Edwards - headstrong, powerful, more substance than style, gritty and plays fighting innings from time to time.. not a great technique but he makes it work. The question is, what happens when everyone is fit? You'd like to assume Gayle, Samuels and probably Pollard and DM Bravo would walk back into the ODI side but at the same time Simmonds, Powell, Edwards should be fixtures in the squad now on the back of this series while Charles is a useful option as he keeps wicket. And personally I'd like to see the experienced Sarwan (amazing ODI record for a WIan).. Welcomed selection headache for the selectors

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 22:12 GMT

    Truth is...BMac has to keep for balance....OR anyone who won't bowl. Neesham provides extra bat/bowl (class at both) and fields well too.... he must replace Ronchi as he deserves a spot in the eleven. All other players are just like for like with Ronchi (yes, Latham is best, but he just bats).... we should be playing BOTH our fast bowling all-rounders. End of day, Neesham > Ronchi. You play your best 11. Hesson has to make better / tougher calls and get balance right... unless someone else ALREADY in the eleven takes the wicket-keeping gloves, we are sacrificing a good player for an inferior one, which is illogical and myopic. Milne's lack of variety, swing and seam, and smarts, make him a liability. Drop Ronchi, give Ryder/Bmac/someone gloves to keep... and bring in Neesham. It is ODI cricket... any good fielder can keep (look at De Villiers). NZ needs to bowl half-way up and bat nearly all the way down. Please wake up and smell the coffee Hesson? BEST 11 only.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 21:35 GMT

    @Smash42 : don't jump to conclusions please. India has a reputation of making poor teams look good by playing even poorer cricket :) They have resurrected careers many out of form players by giving them plenty of cheap runs/wickets...

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | January 8, 2014, 20:38 GMT

    Two mediocre teams having a go at each other. This was to be expected. This WI team is ordinary and NZ have also proved why they are NOT a team to be excited about. This series rightfully tied at 2-2. Saved us all from the agony of enduring such a meaningless series any longer.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 20:31 GMT

    Bad mistake for Powell not to review but I believe in his mind he knew he was hit almost in the middle and Charles did not support the review either. I think it was good call for the umpire but a mistake made by the two in the middle at the time. Wi could have had three centurions in that match.

    Gibson now see a few future cricketers. Like Ramdin said they played for their country.

    Time for Deonarine to decide if he wants to try a come back, but it looks difficult after having so many chances and did not make use of any. Simmons need to review his batting on tape as well.

    The weakness area is the bowling and I do hope Gibson can handle that in May.

    Steven Jacobs is knocking at the door he is the best' off spin' replacement for Shillingford.

  • POSTED BY goabnb94 on | January 8, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    The chase was easily chase-able - the pitch was good and the boundaries were short, and New Zealand did it to Australia in 2007, chasing down 360. New Zealand shot themselves in the foot thinking they had to score quickly, and lost too many wickets early on. What they needed to do was score at 5 or 6 on over for 20 or 30 overs keeping wickets in hand to burst out later on, but nope - classic Black Caps collapse.

  • POSTED BY kiwicricketnut on | January 8, 2014, 20:10 GMT

    that pitch has been a 350 sort of pitch for years now, why would you insert a team knowing damn well you are probably going to be chasing a monster total and put yourselves under pump with all that scoreboard pressure, fair enough if you lose the toss, you just have to accept its going to be a big chase, i don't care if history suggest you are better at chasing than setting totals, you win the toss on a road, you bat and put the opposition under pressure, its that same pressure that made us choke as the batsmen got out trying to go big and it all comes back to one bad decision that defies logic. to the flat track brigade that seem to just go on and on about it like a broken record, you want flat tracks for odi and t-20 cricket its tests where you have to bowl a team out twice not odi's, you don't want too many odi's like the one at eden park do ya.

  • POSTED BY 22many on | January 8, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    @nicevans....when you keep protecting the problem, you keep getting problems.

    He was close to being dismissed first ball again last night...is that caused by pressure. Why don't you accept the real picture here. He has come to the end of a very good innings and unless he gets the gloves back even his one day position should be in doubt. Without Hesson backing him his position should be in doubt... under any other coach he would be no different to any other player ....don't score runs , you get moved on....wasn't it our capt who not so long ago commented on Ryder by saying something like "the currency we deal in is runs" Facts are facts...what NZ required last evening was a mature captains knock to steer the likes of Anderson and co through to late in the innings. Fact is he didn't show leadership full stop. His field placings were weird at best and bowling selections wrong and not batting first after winning the toss was a joke.

  • POSTED BY iceaxe on | January 8, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    This is precisely why NZ have a lowly ranking. We get all excited about a good win or two, then get thrashed, albeit by a second string team.

    After the WI innings (which was superb), I was looking forward to what NZ could come up with. Absolutely rubbish batting was what resulted. Perhaps the outgoing batsman thought the next guy would save face? The 200+ run loss was a disgrace. Well done though WI. It is good to see them show real form. Rather a pity to not have a competitive game though. Very one sided this series, and unfortunately it shows the unpredictability of both teams.

  • POSTED BY Speng on | January 8, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    Happy to see Nikita Miller get the chance to show what he can do. With Shillingford on suspension (and perhaps done for his career) WI need to develop depth in their spin bowling lineup at the international level. They wouldn't want to be in the situation that England find themselves in with Graeme Swann's retirement.

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | January 8, 2014, 15:43 GMT

    Finally, West Indies play to their potential!

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 15:40 GMT

    God Job Boyz. Just keep @ it. You have all done well. Just shows all those critics, we have what it takes. Looking forward to the other games.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | January 8, 2014, 15:39 GMT

    Suddenly WI will have two horns on their head and they will dance like a squirel has entered their pockets.. Pls WI a request from a cricket fan.. Dont dance..it is like insulting a team.. Pls dont do that

  • POSTED BY Westmorlandia on | January 8, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    Stunning stuff from the Windies.

    Are they the new Pakistan? Insipid one day, glorious the next? Will we start seeing journalists describing them as "mercurial" every 5 minutes?

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    That was a westindies b team almost . Well done windies but to loose by 200 runs yesterday I'm sorry but that just underlines nz has showen no improvement to paying consistent cricket.poor showing . Seems the nz public is happy for mccullum to score single figures and make poor desicions as captain. Sunny day in Hamilton short boundaries road.. won the last to easily batting first.. let's bowl!!!! He's no he's all right he got a hundred in the test and if our specialist batsman captain gets a hundred every five years we are so proud of his talent!!! Rant over. needed to get that of the chest. Hes got to go!

  • POSTED BY TAJY on | January 8, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    Good to see Powell and Edwards do well. I don't think WI should give up on these two batsmen. I like Kirk Edwards demeanor, he's not just a WHAM-BAM batsman. He plays cautiously when the situation calls for it. Patience is not something you see often in WI batsmen. We have a few capable players but the fear is always gonna be with the management of the team and the atmosphere within that locker room. Players need a good atmosphere to perform consistently and I am not convinced that the locker room atmosphere is what it should be for an international squad

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    why r newzealand wasting their time in rounchi, latham is way better

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | January 8, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    Sad part is we in the Caribbean cannot see it on television.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | January 8, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    @simonviller bear in mind Mr Bishop is not having a personal dialogue with you. As a commentator he has to be mindful that NEW viewers are coming to cricket all the time; you may hear something over and over but you have an option to mute Mr Bishop's speech if he is not saying anything which you do not already know. The new people to the game will be curious to know what he means and seek to ask someone in the know to develop their interest. Commentary is not solely for the KNOWLEDGEABLE PURIST. Remember there are more people out there yet to discover the sport than those like yourself, who already have.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | January 8, 2014, 12:51 GMT

    It great to see Powell play without the tension and fear; a much more relaxed player who channelled his focus into making run scoring shots. It is quite something when players have a license to perform naturally. A cautious start by Edwards and combined with an attacking knock from Bravo proved to be the catalyst to a great result. I do hope Powell will reflect on the mistake which robbed him of a deserved century and build on this belief going forward. Has something changed? I suspect the PUBLIC school authoritative master's voice ringing in player's ears when they take to the field is now an immune drug. It is way too early to speculate, let us wait and see where this goes.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | January 8, 2014, 12:35 GMT

    A victory, especially one this emphatic, really came as a pleasant surprise! For the better part of the past 20 years we've all had good reason to write Windies off. But them doing something this monumental with a team that, on paper, is way below full strength, breathes new life into what was a perishing spirit of optimism regarding the team's short to medium term fortunes.

    Congratulations to Dwayne Bravo and his team and to Ottis Gibson and the rest of the coaching staff!

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | January 8, 2014, 12:21 GMT

    It is nice 2 c the boys doing well at last.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 11:46 GMT

    Great victory for West indies . Nice to see Andre Russell back.

  • POSTED BY dappasnappa533 on | January 8, 2014, 11:15 GMT

    i went to bed early and refused to come out back to see west indies get beaten. woke up to check the results and man was i extreeeeeemly surprised. when my team plays like this i am prepared to loose sleep. go windies.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 11:01 GMT

    @niceevans - couldn't agree more. I genuinely think the Windies and NZ will go okay in 2015. As you say, NZ quite often make the semis of the WC and chased down over 340 on a few occassions nows. A lot of people saying India will smash records here and there etc. Yes they are a better team and should win but so should have England when they were last here and NZ almost bet them.

    @SLSlider - no one is killing cricket. NZ and Windies didn't go to well recently in Asia and the conditions are massively different to what they are used to. I think you need to take that into consideration. And who cares of a score of 350 was posted..... do you really consider that killing cricket?? It's not like it happens each game. Other teams post 300 plus all the time! and Minnows? NZ bet SA at home, England at home, yes we had a shocker in Bangladesh but in the ODI game I wouldn't say NZ are minnows. And the Windies will be back as well.

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 8, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    @sixfourout Some interesting points but the only players I would like to bring into the odi squad would be Boult and possibly Neesham especially for the world cup. We need genuine wicket takers with the new ball and Boult is the best in the country, Mitch doesn't always come off as we saw today. I'm not sure we will need Mils next year if Anderson keeps developing and agree about Southee. I would like to see Boult and Mitch with the new balls, at least give it a go

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 10:47 GMT

    Well played Windies, didn't see that coming! Just like NZ you have a shocker one week and play really well the next. Two frustrating teams to support. and to those who blame the coach and captain of NZ each time we loose, get over it. They are here until 2015 at least.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 10:39 GMT

    icc ratings do have some standing no wonder they are ranked at the bottom. Nz learn to be consistent. Brendon mac time is up.

  • POSTED BY Lalindra2012 on | January 8, 2014, 9:38 GMT

    #Clinical performance by the West Indies...! whether they can maintain the consistency only time will tell....!

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 8, 2014, 9:36 GMT

    @22many Every time we get a loss we get the inevitable tedious response that it's all the coach and captains fault, but primarily because it's Maccullum and Hesson. Since when has NZ chasing on this ground been a bad idea?. Also Maccullums dismissal came out of excellent pressure bowling when the game was slipping away. So instead of meaningless criticism, what about answers. What about Guptils technical deficiencies, ryders lack of patience, our inept bowling attack today? Is that all Maccullums and Hessons fault as well? If Maccullum should be dropped then who replaces him and why? Sure it was a hiding, but it was also a drawn series, people need to get some context, and answers if they aren't happy with the current situation. Of course the silence will be deafening when the black caps succeed again.

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 8, 2014, 9:36 GMT

    @ Regofpicton Obvious that you would come out of the woodwork now.. We DID make the semis of the world cup in 1992,1999,2007,2011, which was what I was talking about as I stated world cups in relation to pressure situations. Rest of your post, same old same old, I'm sure you will be back on talkback radio tomorrow with the same anti Maccullum vitriol!

  • POSTED BY SixFourOut on | January 8, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    To the Kiwis, you can't open with both Southee and McClenaghan, two expensive bowlers. Mills adds pressure at one end and does it well. Southee has done little in the past to justify the buzz kiwi supporters seem to have around him. 3 wickets in 8 games would get just about any bowler in any team dumped. Neesham seems to have genuine wicket taking ability plus adds real lower order hitting. Munro is probably the one day player in the country with the most potential, what a shame he doesn't keep wickets. Honestly McCullum just isn't good enough to keep a spot. Averaging thirty with only 4 hundreds McCullum is the least valuable player in the top 5. Guptil, Ryder, Williamson, Taylor, McCullum, Munro, Anderson, McCullum, Neesham, Mills, McClenaghan.---------------------Give one of them the gloves and get some more overs out of Williamson, Guptil, Munro and Ryder. Bat down to 10 and have 8 bowling options.

  • POSTED BY alesana85 on | January 8, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    Well done west indies, the better team won today. Hopefully this vital win will take some of the heat off. Great performance. I love this talk about how India going to do this & that to NZ. Never count your money while sitting at the table. I hope Andre Russell gets a better opportunity with the bat in the 20/20s.

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 8, 2014, 9:15 GMT

    @22many Every time we get a loss we get the inevitable tedious response that it's all the coach and captains fault, but primarily because it's Maccullum and Hesson. Since when has NZ chasing on this ground been a bad idea?. Also Maccullums dismissal came out of excellent pressure bowling when the game was slipping away. So instead of meaningless criticism, what about answers. What about Guptils technical deficiencies, ryders lack of patience, our inept bowling attack today? Is that all Maccullums and Hessons fault as well? If Maccullum should be dropped then who replaces him and why? Sure it was a hiding, but it was also a drawn series, people need to get some context, and answers if they aren't happy with the current situation. Of course the silence will be deafening when the black caps succeed again.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    down goes the Rollercoaster - when are we back up again? Saturday in the 2020 or the next tour after India? as don't really have faith for that series...

  • POSTED BY ForgeNZ on | January 8, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    Smash42 plenty of teams have smashed 350 plus at Hamilton regardless of whether the attack is popgun or not. The Aus attack got belted a couple of times in Hamilton in a chappel hadlee trophy match if memory serves. Any side bowling first up is in danger of getting belted in Hamilton. The pitch is that good. 363 is not beyond NZ's batting line up as they have chased 350 plus and won twice.

  • POSTED BY wirus on | January 8, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    Yesterday I posted that it was possible for even this weakened WI side to win this match but that at least two batsmen and two bowlers would have to play very well and that is exactly what happened. In fact 3 batsmen and 3 bowlers performed very well and the rest as they say is history. What have we learned from this ODI series? 1.That Bravo seems to have the respect and commitment of the players. 2.That when captains lead by example the team usually follows. Bravo topped the batting and bowling and is looking something like his old self. 3.Dwayne Bravo, Kirk Edwards, Powell, Holder and Millar should be considered for tests as well as ODIs. 4.Dwayne Bravo is now a contender along with Ramdin for test captain. Bringing back a WI team from 2-1 down to draw is not something that has happened recently or often in any format and is a real achievement.

  • POSTED BY hokeypokey on | January 8, 2014, 8:59 GMT

    Wow!!,who would of thought the west indies 3rd eleven would thrash nzs top team on seddon park...bad feild placings, bad bowling, shocking shot selections..to read the newspapers you would think we were world cup favourites...I agree with @22many, do we have the right men in charge??just a question...

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    The highs and lows of NZ cricket…..pity the highs are not a more consistent feature. Good come back W.I.

  • POSTED BY regofpicton on | January 8, 2014, 8:49 GMT

    Well, Nicevans, one thing that has changed since "a few years ago" is that McCullum wasn't "Captain" then. And we DIDN"T make the semis of either of the last two major world tournaments, in neither of which did McCullum perform as a batsman or as a leader. His captaincy is jusr a freetic as his batting, and both continue to fail dismally

  • POSTED BY 22many on | January 8, 2014, 8:24 GMT

    NZ one step forward and two back pattern continues. Hesson and McCullums spin that NZ are making progress is nothing but spin. Today they just lost to the WI second eleven by over two hundred runs. Spin that if you can. The captain again goes out swinging like a punch drunk boxer way past his use by date when a mature captains knock was required. NZ win the toss and insert ...what a joke that was but then again, these sort of unbelievable decisions are the norm for McCullum. Mr Hesson it is time you took a very close look at who you want to lead this team with the world cup 12 months away.....who you have at present will not win you the cup with performances like we have witnessed since you inserted him.

  • POSTED BY AltafPatel on | January 8, 2014, 8:22 GMT

    Great comeback by WI after 2 back to back loses including Anderson quick ton match. Wish they continue and accelerate the form a year ahead of WC 2015.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | January 8, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    That was as comprehensive an ODI massacre can get today by W.I ! Series draw probably the right result but I can't help but feel NZ got very lucky with that T20 game. One it's no secret W.I hate playing in the cold and those wet conditions with 2 spinners in the side and missing the 5 top T20 hitters Gayle,Pollard,Russell, Sammy and Samuels NZ were always going to fancy a T20 hit, also the way Bravo has been batting you never know what could have happened in the D/L game either. Bravo ends tour with average of 108.50 S/R 106 batting as well as he ever has great signs ahead of the England series.

  • POSTED BY nicevans on | January 8, 2014, 8:12 GMT

    Lots of arrogance and nastiness from some cricket 'fans' on here. If NZ is such a minnow and crack under pressure how do they keep making the semis in world cups, and chase down 350 on this very same ground a few years back? And when the Windies get their best side firing they will tough to beat in the 2015 world cup. It will be funny if NZ and WI both do well and make the semis or finals next year, and it's quite posssible.

  • POSTED BY wildernick on | January 8, 2014, 8:12 GMT

    If this New Zealand side is to differ from previous inconsistent NZ sides over the last 20 years... next one day series coming up against India should be New Zealand's to lose after this lesson of 'intensity'.

  • POSTED BY pt_pt on | January 8, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    Horrible performance by NZ today, again lack of consistency and costly decision to bowl first by McCullum. Time for Ronchi to go, only 34 runs avg of 11.33 in this series not good enough as a WK, has had more than enough chances. Watling should come straight into the side.

  • POSTED BY SameOld on | January 8, 2014, 7:59 GMT

    Very deflating for NZ fans. Credit to WI, but NZ were awful today. Poor captaincy, clueless bowling, woeful batting.

    Ronchi deserved a go as he's a better keeper than Watling, but his glovework is not winning NZ games. This batting lineup really needs both Kane and BJ to support the plentiful hitters and do the patch-up when the hitters fail. Oh, and Ryder needs to recognise the pattern of teams starving him of strike and then dismissing him when he does get back to the crease and tries to go big straight away.

    The more worrying aspect is that WI have only managed to challenge NZ in one Test (which ended in a draw) and two ODIs (which WI won easily). Obviously, India won't lie down like WI have throughout this tour. Big trouble ahead for NZ unless they can find some ever-elusive consistency.

    Will Vettori be back for the India games? Should make for some interesting selection decisions, considering NMac's form of late. He was the best of a bad lot again today.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 7:50 GMT

    Now this is really a good performance from indies. Edwards always try to play with the straight bat .this is a good news for windies. He should concentrate more on ODI and test rather than T20.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    Guess our guys thought they just needed to turn up. Happens so often. Reality just doesn't check in.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 7:38 GMT

    @Rennison Mathura when was the last time Edwards played an ODI??don't you think it's time to have for him to have another chance? @simonviller Bishop comments on everyone technique so why he shouldnt on Edwards?

  • POSTED BY Roysingh1972 on | January 8, 2014, 7:35 GMT

    That was the highest ODI West Indies ever made! And no Bravo JR., no Gayle, Samuel and Pollard, also there was no Sammy. This was the best I have ever seen them bat! Miller was the best in the bowling, and Simmons did not make any runs, Narine did not shine, so they have new talent, Congrats to the West Indies, and good luck in the 20/20 games ahead. I really enjoyed watching Bravo, Edwards and Powell bat today.

  • POSTED BY ARJa on | January 8, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Can't believe some people actually thought Kiwis are going to win the game by chasing the Target. What this WI win proves is that neither team is good against pressusre. WI could have easily have won the last game had they batted patiently. But they through away their wickets. Similarly, NZL went too hard again in this game and lost any chance of fightning. Bad pitch (too flat) and weak bowling attacks are killing the game day by day, because this WI win proves nothing. They are still as bad as always. One win won't change anything. They need to be reorganized from the bottom of the structure right to the top and some strict mental therapy.

  • POSTED BY SLslider on | January 8, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    This is pathetic really. Again a score over 350. India and NZ are killing cricket. NZ and WI weren't able to put bat to ball in Asia but now they are scoring over 300 all the time. Both are real minnows.

  • POSTED BY SLslider on | January 8, 2014, 6:34 GMT

    @ Albert_cambell I agree that's what we should do with our Pathetic Malinga as well.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    no offence simonviller but before this match Edwards ODI ave was 19.66 which is no where close to where an ODI batting ave for a batsman should be. If Mr Bishop or anyone else wants to give constructive criticism it should be welcomed... Edwards need to be more consistent. And SIR Viv ave is 47 in ODI thats where Mr Edwards should be aiming at and perhaps thats why Mr Bishop didnt question SIR viv batting technique, not because it was good, but because its what worked for him.

  • POSTED BY Albert_cambell on | January 8, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    I have always thought that Kirk Edwards is a good player. He is someone who can stabilize the innings and bat longer.This is the type of batsman WI need for their ODI team. Its time to say Good bye to Gayle and Pollard. Let them play their Money making IPL. WI should persist with players like Edwards, Powell, Charles, Darren bravo, dwayne bravo, Sammy and russel for their ODI team. They should also look to find a decent WK batsman.

  • POSTED BY simonviller on | January 8, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    Great knock again Mr Kirk Edwards and Mr Dwayne Bravo ! Let's hope this ends in a win through good cricket on behalf of WI . I have a question about Mr Bishop's commentary as it relates to Kirk Edwards ' batting technique ' and his reference to his" strong bottom hand " Don't you think it's a bit redundant to keep repeating the same thing every time this guy appears to bat ? You played with Sir Viv ,did you say anything to him about his technique ? Just lighten-up on the youngster and thank him for his efforts .

  • POSTED BY Smash42 on | January 8, 2014, 5:11 GMT

    363/4 is well beyond this NZ batting line up. If this is what the struggling Windies did, imagine what records the Indian batsmen will set against NZ's pop-gun attack.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | January 8, 2014, 5:10 GMT

    Brilliant batting display from Powell Edwards and Bravo ridiculous Edwards wasn't selected for the first ODI's when he looked the most consistent batsman in the Tests he's a calm head and should be regular no 3 for W.I. Was also stupid to drop Powell for Deonarine even though Powell had couple of bad games he is the future of W.I and was one of the only highlights in the recent India ODI series even after not initially being selected before Gayles injury. Shame we didn't get to see more of Andre Russell with the bat out here coulda been some real carnage, you'd expect this score to be safe but you never know with this NZ side and W.I bowling.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 4:49 GMT

    West indies finally hits back

  • POSTED BY Mekkayel on | January 8, 2014, 3:45 GMT

    Adrian Barath has been out of form and hasn't entered bouble figures more than once the last 7 or so games he has played. Stop asking for him now.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | January 8, 2014, 2:28 GMT

    I cannot believe Powell didn't review that decision ! He was flying looking set for a huge one 73 from 40 or so balls everything finding the middle even if there was slightest bit of doubt you have to review it, where was Charles? they didn't even discuss it so disappointing because I could even see live that was clearly sliding down Mccullum isnt a big turner of the ball. W.I really need one guy to have a standout performance from one person to have any chance of a win here against this strong Kiwi 11 unfortunately that decision has likely cost them that chance.

  • POSTED BY Athhar on | January 8, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    Some bloke in the crowd wearing one of those orange shirts just took a one-handed catch to win the $100k NZD.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 1:23 GMT

    where is Andrien Barath ?

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  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 1:23 GMT

    where is Andrien Barath ?

  • POSTED BY Athhar on | January 8, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    Some bloke in the crowd wearing one of those orange shirts just took a one-handed catch to win the $100k NZD.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | January 8, 2014, 2:28 GMT

    I cannot believe Powell didn't review that decision ! He was flying looking set for a huge one 73 from 40 or so balls everything finding the middle even if there was slightest bit of doubt you have to review it, where was Charles? they didn't even discuss it so disappointing because I could even see live that was clearly sliding down Mccullum isnt a big turner of the ball. W.I really need one guy to have a standout performance from one person to have any chance of a win here against this strong Kiwi 11 unfortunately that decision has likely cost them that chance.

  • POSTED BY Mekkayel on | January 8, 2014, 3:45 GMT

    Adrian Barath has been out of form and hasn't entered bouble figures more than once the last 7 or so games he has played. Stop asking for him now.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 8, 2014, 4:49 GMT

    West indies finally hits back

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | January 8, 2014, 5:10 GMT

    Brilliant batting display from Powell Edwards and Bravo ridiculous Edwards wasn't selected for the first ODI's when he looked the most consistent batsman in the Tests he's a calm head and should be regular no 3 for W.I. Was also stupid to drop Powell for Deonarine even though Powell had couple of bad games he is the future of W.I and was one of the only highlights in the recent India ODI series even after not initially being selected before Gayles injury. Shame we didn't get to see more of Andre Russell with the bat out here coulda been some real carnage, you'd expect this score to be safe but you never know with this NZ side and W.I bowling.

  • POSTED BY Smash42 on | January 8, 2014, 5:11 GMT

    363/4 is well beyond this NZ batting line up. If this is what the struggling Windies did, imagine what records the Indian batsmen will set against NZ's pop-gun attack.

  • POSTED BY simonviller on | January 8, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    Great knock again Mr Kirk Edwards and Mr Dwayne Bravo ! Let's hope this ends in a win through good cricket on behalf of WI . I have a question about Mr Bishop's commentary as it relates to Kirk Edwards ' batting technique ' and his reference to his" strong bottom hand " Don't you think it's a bit redundant to keep repeating the same thing every time this guy appears to bat ? You played with Sir Viv ,did you say anything to him about his technique ? Just lighten-up on the youngster and thank him for his efforts .

  • POSTED BY Albert_cambell on | January 8, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    I have always thought that Kirk Edwards is a good player. He is someone who can stabilize the innings and bat longer.This is the type of batsman WI need for their ODI team. Its time to say Good bye to Gayle and Pollard. Let them play their Money making IPL. WI should persist with players like Edwards, Powell, Charles, Darren bravo, dwayne bravo, Sammy and russel for their ODI team. They should also look to find a decent WK batsman.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    no offence simonviller but before this match Edwards ODI ave was 19.66 which is no where close to where an ODI batting ave for a batsman should be. If Mr Bishop or anyone else wants to give constructive criticism it should be welcomed... Edwards need to be more consistent. And SIR Viv ave is 47 in ODI thats where Mr Edwards should be aiming at and perhaps thats why Mr Bishop didnt question SIR viv batting technique, not because it was good, but because its what worked for him.