Pakistan v South Africa, 3rd ODI, Abu Dhabi November 5, 2013

Batting worries remain for both sides

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Match facts

Wednesday, November 6, 2013
Start time 1500 local (1100GMT)

Big Picture

What was orginally a five-match series, has suddenly mutated into something much more. On the eve of the third ODI, the South African and Pakistan boards announced another series between the two, starting mere days after this one ends. Three more ODIs and two more T20s will take the number of limited-overs matches played between the two teams to 12 in the space of a month.

That probably means the pressure of the current series has been somewhat lifted because of the marathon contest it has become. That news is probably more welcomed by South Africa, whose limited-overs batsmen have failed to adapt to the UAE conditions, and look lost against Pakistan's spinners.

Though they will have Hashim Amla back for the remainder of the tour, which should add some stability, their middle-order worries are likely to remain. With Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Mohammad Hafeez all continuing to cause problems, one of AB de Villiers, JP Duminy or Faf du Plessis need to step up.

A similar appraisal could be made of Pakistan's line-up, who have also been faltering in the middle. Umar Amin and Umar Akmal are yet to make meaningful contributions. In their case though, it is pace, rather than spin, that has got the better of them.

Both bowling attacks continue to impress, marking a change from the usual high-scoring gluts that this format can produce. But even that novelty is likely to soon wear off as the teams are going to be playing against each other till the end of the month.

Form guide

(last five completed games most recent first)

Pakistan WLWWL
South Africa LWLLW

In the spotlight

He has operated as more of a frontline bowler than frontline batsman in the series so far and Mohammad Hafeez will be keen to turn that around. After being left out of the Test series, Hafeez has plenty to prove with the bat.

Dale Steyn is not guaranteed a place in the XI because of how well South Africa's attack has operated in his absence, but he has rejoined the squad and could replace Morne Morkel as part of a rotation policy. After dismissing Hafeez eight times in seven Tests and three times in six ODIs, Steyn may be itching to have a go, just so he can come up against the batsman that he has had so much success against.

Team news

Pakistan won the second match, but that does not mean their XI couldn't do with some tinkering. Nasir Jamshed's continual failings at the top may prompt an experimentation with Sohaib Maqsood, while Wahab Riaz's place in the team will also be questioned. Apart from two meaty sixes, his only role in the second ODI was to bowl two overs. With the spinners causing plenty of problems, Pakistan may choose to leave Riaz out and strengthen the batting instead.

Pakistan: (likely) 1 Nasir Jamshed/Sohaib Maqsood, 2 Ahmed Shehzad, 3 Mohammad Hafeez, 4 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 5 Umar Amin, 6 Umar Akmal (wk), 7 Shahid Afridi, 8 Sohail Tanvir, 9 Wahab Riaz, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Mohammad Irfan

South Africa sent Colin Ingram home as soon as they could - he even managed to play in a domestic one-day match on Sunday - because they were assured of Hashim Amla's return. Following the birth of his second child, Amla will return to the top of the order to partner Graeme Smith and add experience to a line-up which has looked fragile.

Should South Africa want to make a change in the middle, their only option would be to bring in Robin Peterson, who has batted higher up than his usual No.8 position in the past, for du Plessis. Steyn has also rejoined the squad, although it may be tricky to find a spot for him in an attack which has done very well in his absence. He may replace Morkel, in keeping with the policy of resting the quicks, or he may join Vernon Philander for drinks duty.

South Africa: (likely) 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Faf du Plessis/Robin Peterson, 5 AB de Villiers (capt & wk), 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren, 8 Wayne Parnell, 9 Morne Morkel/Dale Steyn, 10 Lonwabo Tsotsobe, 11 Imran Tahir

Stats and trivia

  • Hashim Amla's ODI record against Pakistan will give South Africa a confidence boost. He has a batting average of 57.60, marginally higher than his 54.85 overall, and two of his 11 centuries have come against them.
  • Although Faf du Plessis has had a lean year, he has one record he can be proud of. He is second on the list of the most catches in ODIs in 2013 with 13 to his name, two behind Suresh Raina.

Quotes

"It's not Afridi versus South Africa, its Pakistan versus South Africa. This current team is a mix of seniors and juniors and I am feeling younger with each passing day."
Although he has not contributed much with the bat, Shahid Afridi's exploits with the ball have left him excited about performing for Pakistan's attack

"A lot of us, including myself, have got in to 20's and 30's and gone out. The guys that are in, need to take the responsibility to push on to get 80's and 100's. We have done the business in the past; it's about making sure we back ourselves to do it again."
JP Duminy knows small starts have to be converted if South Africa are to improve their batting

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • on November 11, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    I really wana see some all rounder in Pakistan Team. I think Hammad Azam is much better than Umar Amin ...

  • kamranpk2000 on November 6, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    can any one tell me, why the hell Wahab Riaz is playing today? he should be replaced with Junaid!

  • on November 6, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    Why isWahab Riaz included forthe 3rd ODI ? He is a very mediocre bowler . However , he is a buddy of Misbah . Only reason forhis inclusion.

  • romirom on November 6, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    why not sohaib maqsood. I dnt kno what misbah think.

  • on November 6, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    My Playing Xi-1. Md. Hafeez 2.Ahmed Shehzad 3.Younis Khan 4.Misbah 5.Umar Akmal 6. Shoaib Maqsod 7.Shahid Afridi 8.S.Tanvir 9.Saeed Ajmal 10. J. Khan 11.Md Irfan

  • Pak_Guru on November 6, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    If Maqsood can bowl as well, then he surely should be given a chance today in place of Amin. Even they can think of Shafiq in place of Jamshed, i remember Shafiq mentioning in an interview that he opens for his domestic side. Wahab may not be as good as Junaid but he can bat decent, Tanveer's batting is a big flop, he has totally lost confidence in his batting.

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on November 6, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    @Match-winner this article is about today's and not about T20 squad. How am I suppose to know as in ODI squad there is only one Shoaib and he is better than Umar Amin or Nasir Jamshed still he is not getting a chance to prove himself.

  • on November 6, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    I think Nasir should be given rest & shoaib Maqsood shoud be given a chance, rest of the team is fine.

  • on November 6, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    My Pakistan team for ODI with available resources. 1. Muhammad Hafeez, 2. Ahmed Shehzad 3. Misbah 4. Umar Amin 5. Sohaib Maqsood 6. Asad Shafiq 7. Umar Akmal 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Sohail Tanvir 11. Muhammad Irfan

    Misbah should bat up. More batmen required than additional bowler. Bowling line will be 03 top spinners + 02 fast bowler +02 part time bowlers(Umar Amin + Sohaib Maqsood.

    your suggestion on my line up????

  • on November 6, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    Firdose Good analysis about Pak team. Though Nasir Jamshed may be most sylish batsman in the world but he is limited to style only and no runs.

    . I believe Styn and Hafeez are on something: Hafiz got out 11 times by same bowler and that could be world record which would make styn and Hafeez world famous and record holder to show their children. Or Hafeez may be not quick learner.

    I am Afraid, without Afridi no team is Afraid of Pakistan, and there is no fun cricket: he should play # 8, start slogging ground shots only, every time he try to hit six he gets caught. He is great player.

    SA needs to learn to play Pak spinners or Pak would have knocked them out from top position even if Pak had one Tendulkar or Kohli. Pak should Indian batsmen they have many extra. After, all Cricket is now entertainment, rather than national games. Even Kohli play for Pakistan still he is playing for brothers against very dangerous teams SA, UK, Australia, NZ. None of these teams like Kohli

  • on November 11, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    I really wana see some all rounder in Pakistan Team. I think Hammad Azam is much better than Umar Amin ...

  • kamranpk2000 on November 6, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    can any one tell me, why the hell Wahab Riaz is playing today? he should be replaced with Junaid!

  • on November 6, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    Why isWahab Riaz included forthe 3rd ODI ? He is a very mediocre bowler . However , he is a buddy of Misbah . Only reason forhis inclusion.

  • romirom on November 6, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    why not sohaib maqsood. I dnt kno what misbah think.

  • on November 6, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    My Playing Xi-1. Md. Hafeez 2.Ahmed Shehzad 3.Younis Khan 4.Misbah 5.Umar Akmal 6. Shoaib Maqsod 7.Shahid Afridi 8.S.Tanvir 9.Saeed Ajmal 10. J. Khan 11.Md Irfan

  • Pak_Guru on November 6, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    If Maqsood can bowl as well, then he surely should be given a chance today in place of Amin. Even they can think of Shafiq in place of Jamshed, i remember Shafiq mentioning in an interview that he opens for his domestic side. Wahab may not be as good as Junaid but he can bat decent, Tanveer's batting is a big flop, he has totally lost confidence in his batting.

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on November 6, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    @Match-winner this article is about today's and not about T20 squad. How am I suppose to know as in ODI squad there is only one Shoaib and he is better than Umar Amin or Nasir Jamshed still he is not getting a chance to prove himself.

  • on November 6, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    I think Nasir should be given rest & shoaib Maqsood shoud be given a chance, rest of the team is fine.

  • on November 6, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    My Pakistan team for ODI with available resources. 1. Muhammad Hafeez, 2. Ahmed Shehzad 3. Misbah 4. Umar Amin 5. Sohaib Maqsood 6. Asad Shafiq 7. Umar Akmal 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Sohail Tanvir 11. Muhammad Irfan

    Misbah should bat up. More batmen required than additional bowler. Bowling line will be 03 top spinners + 02 fast bowler +02 part time bowlers(Umar Amin + Sohaib Maqsood.

    your suggestion on my line up????

  • on November 6, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    Firdose Good analysis about Pak team. Though Nasir Jamshed may be most sylish batsman in the world but he is limited to style only and no runs.

    . I believe Styn and Hafeez are on something: Hafiz got out 11 times by same bowler and that could be world record which would make styn and Hafeez world famous and record holder to show their children. Or Hafeez may be not quick learner.

    I am Afraid, without Afridi no team is Afraid of Pakistan, and there is no fun cricket: he should play # 8, start slogging ground shots only, every time he try to hit six he gets caught. He is great player.

    SA needs to learn to play Pak spinners or Pak would have knocked them out from top position even if Pak had one Tendulkar or Kohli. Pak should Indian batsmen they have many extra. After, all Cricket is now entertainment, rather than national games. Even Kohli play for Pakistan still he is playing for brothers against very dangerous teams SA, UK, Australia, NZ. None of these teams like Kohli

  • on November 6, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    quinton de cock also deserves a chance where ingram is not successful as an opener.

  • Match-winner on November 6, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    @Captain_Tuk_Tuk - Shamshad Nabi was commenting about Shoaib (Malik) who has been named in the T20 squad - not about Sohaib (Maqsood)...

  • Furly on November 6, 2013, 8:04 GMT

    So they extend the series, 2 more T20 and few ODI's. This is just a money making decision, why not a few tests, 2 of the top 4 test teams and no test matches? We have been reduced to no more than 2 tests in a series, why? How do we get a reasonable series result from just 2 tests? This is ridiculous..

  • GlobalCricketLover on November 6, 2013, 7:50 GMT

    SA is missing golden opportunity - they should try Philander. I cant understand why the SA's think tank assumes that he will bowl the same length as he does in Tests. His batting would also mean there is more depth in that dept. as well. He has proven to be a better bowler than Morkel in Tests, there is no reason to outrightly assume he will fail in ODIs.

  • on November 6, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    @mzm149: my error in that. anyway mate, management is what matters and looks like they will make a change in this match. i can see only 2 players in line and those are nasir and umar amin. amin is these days very much preferred by board and media for some unknown reasons so i dont think they will drop amin. nasir will be left out like he was after 3 odis in SA earlier.

  • mzm149 on November 6, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    @Khurram S Chaudhry: Agreed! Chill bro :)

  • on November 6, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    i wll tll my batting oder today match 1 asad safiq 2.ahmed shahad 3.hafeez .4misbah ul haq5.SOHAIB MAQSOOD.6 umar akmal .afridi .jundid. khan .sohil tanveer .akmal rifan is the good team for pakistan odi of ever

  • on November 6, 2013, 7:19 GMT

    My Playing XI- 1.Mohammed Hafeez 2.Shoaib Maqsood 3.Shoaib Malik(Younis Khan) 4.Misbah-ul-Haq 5Umar Akmal 6.Shahid Khan Afridi 7.Abdul Razzaq 8.Saeed Ajmal 9.Umar Gul 10.Junaid Khan 11.Mohammed Irfan

  • on November 6, 2013, 7:11 GMT

    @mzm149: my error i didnt wrot t20 with it. copied from my comment the other day .it includes t20s played in that period. international innings. anyway you can exclude t20s from the list then again does it gives you avg more than21? if 20. 20 makes you feel more better than 17 then that is very good for you.

    11 meant his international innings after that 50against WI.

    leave last few games you can go back to india series and include all the matches including that 100 vs india this year in 2 nd odi. 1 st was last year. that also gives you an avg of around 27.

    yes he avg 35.71 . right but arent you forgetting that his avg was 45 after india tour? a drop of 10 runs in avg is indicating that he is not in best of form. my only point is that he should be rested and he should go back to domestic to get back to his touch. he is good player and future of pakistan. isnt it good to give maqsood a chance to show what has he got?

  • ICCexpert.... on November 6, 2013, 7:07 GMT

    Drop Wahab and bring in Sohaib Maqsood, he is a hard hitter and a useful spinner, it will make Pakistan side more balanced.

  • on November 6, 2013, 7:04 GMT

    @mzm149: if you read the original comment the other day then o wrote it that it includes t20s played in that period. international innings. anyway you can exclude t20s from the list then again does it gives you avg more than21? if 20. 50 makes you feel more better than 17 then that is very good for you.

    11 meant his international innings after that 50against WI.

    leave last few games you can go back to india series and include all the matches including that 100 vs india this year in 2 nd odi. 1 st was last year. that also gives you an avg of around 27.

    yes he avg 35.71 . right but arent you forgetting that his avg was 45 after india tour? a drop of 10 runs in avg is indicating that he is not in best of form. my only point is that he should be rested and he should go back to domestic to get back to his touch. he is good player and future of pakistan. isnt it good to give maqsood a chance to show what has he got?

  • on November 6, 2013, 6:55 GMT

    @pak need a pinch hitter as an opener nt again a tuk_tuk in d face of @shafiq..instead of @shafiq der r soo mny faces in pak team who cn make pak go on high..

  • on November 6, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    @avijeet subha, yes everyone knows how Indian played this Pakistan attack in India and see the past record who has won more matches or series, watch the stats and do come back to comment

  • Samee0324 on November 6, 2013, 6:19 GMT

    Asad shafiq must be back now and replace umar amin!!! he was a centurian in last test and we need someone strong in middle order to make a good partnership with Hafeez/Misbah or Umar Akmal

  • on November 6, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    Well If SA batting is so good...why cant they score against a so called good attack of Pakistan... Indians would'nt have played so poorly against this Pak attack on these pitches...

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on November 6, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    @Shamshad Nabi Lol do you really watch cricket? Sohaib Maqsood have only played two T20i matches and batted once and made 26 quick runs when platform was set for him he provided some finishing touches. He is yet to make an ODI debut.

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on November 6, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    I don't know why many writers fail to write any good thing about Afridi/Ajmal or any other Pakistan players and do not write any weak points of other team's players not even Colin Ingram.

    They can call our best players as tail and don't write any record of South Africa's bad players?

  • waqasaliahmad on November 6, 2013, 5:57 GMT

    My Pakistan XI for 3rd ODI: 1. Nasir Jamshed, 2. Ahmad Shehzad, 3. Asad Shafiq, 4. Misbah 5. Umar Akmal 6. Umar Amin 7. Muhammad Hafeez 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Junaid Khan 11. Mohammad Irfan

    Umar Amin and Hafeez together can bowl 10 overs, even hafeez alone in UAE

  • on November 6, 2013, 5:27 GMT

    Hasim amla back

  • CricIndia208 on November 6, 2013, 4:19 GMT

    Sadly pakistani cricket is dead, to the incompetent PCB.

  • JustIPL on November 6, 2013, 4:04 GMT

    Batting is not a worry for SA as they are facing the best in world bowlers. They will prove in SA against india how good they bat.

  • on November 6, 2013, 4:04 GMT

    Razaq is a welcome addition . He should also have been selected for theODIs Team . However , why Shoaib ? Hehasplayed been given opportunities again and again for the last three years and he has continued to be a failure .m

  • Resultpredictor on November 6, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Amla is back and SA batting will become extra strong. SA is strong favourite to win this match and series.

  • Cric_bhai on November 6, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    Good luck to both the teams. Let's hope for a cracker. Some changes in my opinion are Nasir|Wahab|Amin out for Sohaib|Junaid|Asad. Proteas should bring in Steyn and Amla.

  • badmaash on November 6, 2013, 3:09 GMT

    Umar Akmal or Umar Amin need to make way for Sohaib Maqsood.

  • SHER-A-PANJAB on November 6, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    HI SA FANS....There is no room for SMITH in ODI cricket anymore and Morkel should do more hopme work and D.Kock must be given a chance as NASIR HUSAIN DID FOR ANDREW STRAUSS .Because team is not somebody 's own property if some one knocking the door, so need to be openned. BUt as H.GIBBS said South african seniors players are working as company ,that is why their performance is going down day by day but they are still in team AB ,smith not scoring enough to stay in side so for FUTURE 1 D.Kock 2 ELGAAR 3 AMLA 4.FAF 5 AB 6 duminy 7. Miller 8.Parnell 9.Imran Tahir 10.Sobe 11.Dale ......and M.LAREN should be played here instead of ELGAAR because he is not here in squad ..lets get ready for 2015 WC.

  • on November 6, 2013, 2:06 GMT

    My Pakistan 11: 1. Ahmad Shahzad 2. Shan Maqsood 3. Nasir Jamshed 4. Misbah 5. Asad Shafeeq 6. Umar Akmal 7. M Hafeez 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Junaid Khan 11. M. Irfan Drop Hafeez down the order because he has been vulnerable to styeneand new ball and has been getting bowled out regularly. And he can give the impetus that pak batting requires after 35th over.

  • Lions of Pakistan on November 6, 2013, 1:13 GMT

    My Pakistan XI for 3rd ODI: 1. Asad Shafiq, 2. Ahmad Shehzad, 3. Misbah Ul Haq, 4. Umar Akmal 5. Mohammad Hafeez 6. Shahid Afridi 7. Sohaib Maqsood 8. Sohail Tanvir 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Junaid Khan 11. Mohammad Irfan

  • on November 6, 2013, 1:04 GMT

    playing wahab riaz and tanveer dsnt make sense...their should be one of them or dropping both of them and including junid khan and a batsman..as batting is huge concern for PAK.this will strenghthn the tail also..

  • on November 6, 2013, 0:59 GMT

    How come no one is talking about not scheduling even one Test Match? Where are those pseudo cricket lovers? Who fashionably keep on repeating that Test Cricket is the only real cricket? They even pilloried at the fact that the forthcoming India's tour of SA has only two Tests! (Wen it pinches one's own purse, money talks, no?)

  • on November 6, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    I have no clue asfar as batting line is concerned.every body flops even if you do changes.ah bowling I can say mohammad Irfan,Junaid Khan,Saed Ajmal,Mohamad Haffez, Shaid Afridi, and any left ae rm spinner.

  • on November 5, 2013, 23:55 GMT

    nasir desirve all the matches of d series. if still failed than they can try some one else in next. but not here. this is our only main problem to replace so many good players. all we know how capable n tallented he is. inshahalllah he will b in form soon.

  • on November 5, 2013, 23:51 GMT

    my six sens is telling me about first 350 + of d series. if it is, will b so fun out there guys.

  • on November 5, 2013, 23:30 GMT

    Umar Akmal should come one down . He could really prosper in that position if he can only keep himself composed with the opposition and fellow batsmen. Must be tried.

  • on November 5, 2013, 22:51 GMT

    Pak X1-

    1)Ahmed shehzad, 2) Hafeez 3) Asad Shafiq 4) Misbah 5) Umar Akmal 6) Umar Amin 7) Afridi 8) Sohail Tanveer 9) Saeed Ajmal 10) Junaid Khan 11) Irfan

  • Chaudry_Cricket on November 5, 2013, 22:42 GMT

    Jamshed, Shehzad, Amin, Akmal, Misbah, Maqsood, Hafeez, Afridi, Ajmal, Junaid, Irfan ..... This is the best playing 11. Rather than dropping Jamshed or Amin give them this series and if they do not make a substanisal score the you can and should drop them. With the line up I have contemplated we bat till 8, we have 5 classical batsman at the top and then three finishers. 3 quality spinners and 2 quality seamers. Besides I feel Umar Akmal will come good today (hopefully a century In Shaa Allah).

  • on November 5, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    my batting eleven

    1: shahid afridi 2:shezad 3:akmal 4:Hafeez 5:misbah 6:sohaib 7:amin 8:tanvir 9:ajmal 10:junaid 11:irfan

    batting and bowling got depth

  • maria_01 on November 5, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    i suggest muhammad hafeez should open along with ahmed and sohaib maqsood should get a chance with nasir to left out as suggested in the column, and asad shafiq should also get a chance in place of umer amin, rest of the team is fine

  • Behind_the_Wicket on November 5, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    After Misbah ul Haq & Saeed Ajmal no one is secure in this team and this insecurity makes them under pressure. Misbah is captain and Saeed Ajmal don't have replacement so both are well safe. I see Umar Amin to bowl in domestic level quite regularly , Ahmad Shehzad , Sohaib Maqsod also but I don't understand why Misbah some time don't give chance to them , I remember in England as Umar Amin got chance he broke the partnership. He is like a medium pace same pace like Ganguly bowled. Give chance to Sohaib in this match and send Nasir to India to get some rhythm back .

  • on November 5, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    Should've sent faf home along with ingram. I would like to see de kock or R. peterson in his place, yes robin peterson can score more run than him. Hope to see another amla special!

  • kamranpk2000 on November 5, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    My XI for Pakistan is; 1. Ahmed Shezad.2, Shoiab Malik.3, Amin.4,Umer Akmal.5,Amin.6,missbah. 7 Hafeez. 8, Afridi. 9, Abddur Razak. 10, Ajmal,11, Irfan. More stable batting line, and balanced bowling attack.

  • mzm149 on November 5, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    @Khurram S Chaudhry: I don't know where do you get your stats from but according to cricinfo his last 11 ODI scores are 1,0,38,32,27,23,22,20,54,6,2. If you sum them they neither count to 195 nor average of 17. The correct sum is 225. The 12th inning score is 42 and 13th inning score is 50. Don't trust me. Count it yourself and check cricinfo stats for the scores I wrote. You said he scored 50 eleven innings ago. It's actually nine innings ago that he svored 54.

    It's your opinion that he shouldn't be in because he is not scoring but please don't give false information about stats.

    BTW I still don't get the logic behind magic number 11. You can make whatever average you like by including innings of your liking but his overall average is 35.71 which matters. It is pretty decent according to Pakistani batting standards.

  • Love-Pak on November 5, 2013, 20:24 GMT

    I don't understand one simple thing, why they don't give chance to Asad Shafiq in ODI???. In last series against South Africa in South Africa he was the best batsman from Pakistan side in test matches but he was only given one ODI match and that was also on emergency basis. Now once again he have performed so well in current test series by scoring one hundred and on fifty but once again he was thrown out of ODI team !!!!!!!!!!!

    He did very well in 2011 world cup in India(check it out) and technically he is probably the best batsman in Pakistan side who is performing well regularly in the test matches since last couple of years. Umer Amin is by no means of same caliber. ASAD SHAFID SHOULD BE IN PAKISTAN PLAYING ODI SIDE.

  • t20cric on November 5, 2013, 20:20 GMT

    SA are coming in this match with a stronger team. Pakistan must make changes even though they dominated the first 2 matches. Umar Amin and Wahab Riaz should be out cuz they haven't done much. Nasir Jamshed should play the rest of the series but lose his opener position. Sohail Tanvir was not bad so its alright if he stays, if Sohail doesn't play then Junaid Khan should be in. Asad Shafiq and SOhaib Maqsood should replace Amin and Wahab.

    My XI:1.Mohammad Hafeez, 2.Ahmed Shehzad, 3.Nasir Jamshed, 4.Asad Shafiq, 5.Umar Akmal, 6.Misbah-ul-haq, 7.Sohaib Maqsood, 8.Shahid Afridi, 9.Sohail Tanvir/ Junaid Khan, 10.Saeed Ajmal, 11.Mohammad Irfan.

    The problem with this XI is that Hafeez opens and if Steyn opens bowling then Hafeez will be out very fast. Also Umar Akmal should be even higher in the order but Asad Shafiq will be useless if he is shifted down.

  • Zee_1203 on November 5, 2013, 19:56 GMT

    I don't know why they injustice with Asad Shafique, whenever he came in form they dropped, what Umar Amin did in those 2 one days. Never understand this change.

  • on November 5, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    @mzm149: bro i have all scores written for you. that 50 & 42 was 15th and 16th not 12th and 13 th.

    11 games ago he scored a 50 and thats why mentioned 11 as that is the number of games he has gone without 50 or 40+.

    i have written all scores after india series.23 innings and 446. ( that includes that 50 & 42).

    technically you can add 2nd and 3 rd odi vs india as they were played this year and that will also give you an avg of less than 26 /25.

    if you still think that he is the in form and performing because 12 innings ago he scored a 50 then you are welcome to beleive so. you cant force others to accept them as stats are there and tells different story.

  • drnaveed on November 5, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    my team 1 ) ahmed shehzad 2) asad shafiq 3) umar akmal {wk} 4 ) misbah ul haq 5 ) mohammad hafeez 6 ) shoaib maqsood 7 ) umar ameen 8) shahid afridi 9 ) saeed ajmal 10 ) junaid khan 11 ) mohammad irfan. batting upto number eight , 5 specialist bowlers ( 2 fast and 3 spinners ) with umar ameen to bowl a few overs ,only if required .asad shafiq and umar akmal at the top ,to play their natural game,their will not be much pressure on them as they know that there are more batsmen to follow them.

  • PAKisTANeee786 on November 5, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    Playing XI for tomorrow's game should be as follows: Ahmed Shahzad, Nasir Jmashed (last chance possibly), Shoaib Maqsood, Umar Akmal, Umar Amin, Misbah-ul-haq, Mohammad Hafeez, Shahid Afridi, Saeed Ajmal, Junaid Khan, Mohammad Irfan.

    This will be a perfect playing eleven for spinning conditions, leaving out Wahab and Tanivr for Juanid, and adding a batsman in Shoaib Maqsood. Hence, 2 quality seamers, and 3 more-than hand full spinners for related conditions for tomorrows game.

  • mzm149 on November 5, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    @Khurram S Chaudhry: What's the logic behind that magic number 11 of Nasir's innings? Why don't you include 12th and 13th innings where he scored 42 and 50.

  • 2nd_Slip on November 5, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    Faf should have been the one on a plane back home, Ingram given a chance down the order where he is most comfortable. Or open with Smith and de Kock and have Amla coming in at 3. Sick and tired of seeing Faf being given chance after chance in all formats and not delivering time and time again!!! Rilee Rusouw,Ingram and Dean Elgar can do better than what he is offering at the moment

  • Qachee_XI on November 5, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    I think we have a talented batting unit.. just need to trust in their capabilities. I have serious doubts on misbah's captaincy in ODIs.. works for tests but i think we need someone aggressive. I like to keep misbah the batsman in ODIs but change the captain for ODIs. We are losing matches anyways so why not try something different. Hafeez was a candidate but his recent batting form is woeful so i would prefer to have maybe afridi (hate the guy but he was more mature and aggressive for the short stint he had as captain). Umar Amin should not be playing... he is supposed to be an all rounder and not bowling him will not help his confidence. Umar Akmal is a much better batsman than he is given credit for and he should bat higher ideally 1 down or even at 3 down with misbah to maintain good run rate. He can be our eoin morgan if given the chance. Sohaib was impressive in tests and should be given a chance esp when Jamshed needs some time off to get his things together.

  • on November 5, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    This is what I have noticed with the Pakistan batting line-up: Everyone in the top order is playing for their spot, as soon as they think they have done enough to be selected for the next game/series they loose motivation and give their wicket away. Prime examples are Shahzad, Hafeez, and U.Akmal who have all gotten out after settling in. What we can do to negate that is give players security and trust to be chosen again if you play positively and play for the team. All in all, I see Pakistan rising in the batting order if more opportunities are given to the players. One good thing is that there many back up players for each position in the domestic that are waiting for their chances, making the rivalry in the current squad intense for the betterment of Pakistan cricket. Good luck to Pakistan!

  • on November 5, 2013, 18:23 GMT

    @Mannan.81.pk: bro the reasoning you are giving for hafeez/umar akmal or amin to be dropped are also valid on nasir jamshed who avg only 17 in last 11 odis. Shehzad has been pakistans top scorer with 116 in 2 games. and the batting crisis pakistan s facing at the moment where out last 6 batsmen failed to score 19 in 1st game, the last thing we should be worried about is Strike rate. And in contexts of these 2 games, hafeez is 3rd on the list . Ahmed (116) , misbah (56), Hafeez (54), umar akmal ( 36 ) , amin ( 34 )

  • PAK_CricFan on November 5, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    My Pakistan XI for 3rd ODI : 1. Mohammad Hafeez (looks in touch need to get a big one) , 2. Ahmed Shehzad, 3. Nasir Jamshed (last chance/No. 3 can get some of pressure off), 4. Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 5. Umar Akmal (wk), 6. Asad Shafiq, 7. Shahid Afridi, 8. Sohail Tanvir, 9. Abdur Rehman, 10. Saeed Ajmal, 11. Mohammad Irfan

    My SA XI for 3rd ODI : 1. Hashim Amla, 2. Graeme Smith , 3. AB de Villiers (capt & wk), 4. David Miller, 5. JP Duminy, 6. Robin Peterson, 7. Ryan McLaren, 8. Wayne Parnell, 9. Dale Styen, 10. Lonwabo Tsotsobe, 11. Imran Tahir

  • on November 5, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    Pak should go in the game with this Eleven:

    1) Ahmed Shahzad 2) Muhammad Hafeez 3) Asad Shafiq 4) Misbah-ul Huq 5) Shaoib Maqsood (sorry but Umer Amin is a mediocre batsmen) 6) Umer Akmal 7) Boom Boom 8) The Magician 9) Sohail Tanvir 10) Junaid Khan 11) M. Irfan

    Nasir Jamshed needs to go back to playing domestic and league cricket and find his touch again. Umer Amin has improved but needs more work to come good at the international level. Asad Shafiq will provide consistency in the middle order witrh Misbah and Shoaib Maqsood can blast with Umer Akmal and Afridi.

    On the bowling side, Wahad Riaz really does not make any sense. The only reason they play him is because he can bowl fast and since Tanvir and Irfan are strike bowlers, they can't adjust Junaid Khan with the new ball.

  • Highflyer_GP on November 5, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    Faf needs to go, SA is playing with 10 men in the team when he plays. Enough is enough...

  • roook on November 5, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    Pakistan top 6 batsman have so far failed to provide a decent platform for the like of afridi and umar akmal to slog. Wahab should be utilize as a allrounder junaid khan is a better bowler but he is pathetic batsman and averaging just 6 in ODI is not acceptable. Wasim akram, steyn and even morne morkel averages above 10 if junaid khaan is brough in then we have long tail and put more pressure on unde rperforming top batsman

  • on November 5, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    i don't understand why Pakistan is not preferring Junaid khan on Wahab riaz. and they have to give chance to shoaib maqsood as opener with ahmed shehzad.

    My team is:

    shoaib, shehzad, hafeez, misbah, umer, amin, afridi, junaid, ajmal,tanvir, irfan

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    Pakistan should open with Ahmed Shehzad & Sohaib Maqsood.....Team should be like this..................1 Ahmed Shehzad, 2 Sohaib Maqsood, 3 Mohammad Hafeez (His batting technique is quit questionable........fishing pole), 4 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 5 Umar Amin, 6 Umar Akmal (wk), 7 Sohail Tanvir (I have more faith in Sohail's batting than Afridi), 8 Wahab Riaz, 9 Saeed Ajmal, 10 Shahid Afridi, 11 Mohammad Irfan.

  • Mannan.81.pk on November 5, 2013, 17:55 GMT

    We have to drop one of Umar Amin, Umar Akmal or or Hafeez. As Akmal has cleverly slotted in as WK even though his batting is still woeful, Umar Amin may have to make way for another batsman.Given Hafeez struggles at top order, it is time to experiment and use him in middle order but he must prove his worth as batting allrounder and canny bowling will not be enough to keep him in team as we cannot afford too many bowling allrounders.

    I know people will raise questions why not ahmed shahzad in my team but everyone can see his strike rate and the fact that he is just playing for himself

    My team: Nasir Jamshed,Sohaib Maqsood, Misbah, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq, Hafeez,Afridi,Sohail, Junaid,Irfan, Ajmal

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:34 GMT

    Well stats doesnt matter that much? But yeah it will boost SA that Amla and Steyn are back, but they are putting to much pressure on them! On the other side Pakistan is doing the same to Afridi and Hafeez! They should remember that a team is made out of 11, and all should try to perform!

    Pakistan XI should be: 1 Sohaib Maqsood, 2 Ahmed Shehzad, 3 Mohammad Hafeez, 4 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 5Asad Shafiq, 6 Umar Akmal (wk), 7 Shahid Afridi, 8 Sohail Tanvir, 9 Abdur Rehman, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Mohammad Irfan

    SA XI 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Faf du Plessis, 5 AB de Villiers (capt & wk), 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren, 8 Wayne Parnell, 9 Morne Morkel, 10 Lonwabo Tsotsobe, 11 Imran Tahir

    This will also make the match more exciting, and will be a game about how the both team's approach about things!

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:33 GMT

    Nice to have another series between PAK-SA both teams are having the worlds' best bowlers, not relying on batting much.

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:30 GMT

    correction

    nasir jamshed last 11 odis 195 runs.

    and scores after india series in 23 innings. 13,25, 10, 10, 20, 20, 0, 50, 42, 2, 6, 54, 20, 22, 23, 27,6, 2, 23, 32, 38, 0, 1

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:22 GMT

    Batting is a big worry for both teams here,but i think with Amla back in the team alongwith Steyn, South Africa hold an edge in this series,despite the fact that Pakistan have a really good bowling attack but batting is a massive concern for them and i dont see solution for it either,making changes will not help but Asad should be there because he is in form and had a good test series,so he should be there in the team. Seconly,Umar should be batting in the top order if we are to take any advantage,batting down the order is not helping him and the team.Despite all this,still hoping for a Pakistan victory!!!

  • roook on November 5, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    I think Pakistan should go with an extra batsman hafeez is bowling fine and replace wahab with an extra batsman

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:19 GMT

    Replace Wahab and Sohail with Junaid and one genuine batsman. Drop Naser Jamshed. Sohaib Maqsood deserves a chance else let him go.

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    Probably this will make the best combination......Nasir Jamshed to be replaced with Sohaib Maqsood but Hafeez should open. Umer Amin to be replaced with Asad Shafiq and Wahab with another batsman.

  • on November 5, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    asad shafiq and junaid khan should be included in pakistan 11

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    SA and PK both are trying to find their feet in making there batting department stronger , SA got good pace bowling attack and players like amla and ab devilliers is its strengths whereas PK is just unpredictable whose going to perform is just playing with probability overall these factor perhaps make this games very exciting & a thriller to watch and addition of t20 where as PK in past has good record is challenging route for SA to find their feet to win and considering T20 WC is close they would go with their full strength's to see how well they are prepared and more importantly SA has never won a Tournament so its really what SA should aim at considering their past , Best LUCK to Team PAKISTAN for tournament insha allah and Hope to see a good competition between both Teams.

  • atta-ul-hai on November 5, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    I think pak should consider junaid or rehman in place of wahab. also team bating first will have a gd chance of winning considering the sereis results so far. hoping that pak will win and create a gr8 chance of winning a series against mighty opponents.

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:41 GMT

    good change insha allah maqsood playing well I hope umar amin and umar come back and good performance insha allah pak win.

  • I_amMirza on November 5, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    If you are going to give him 2 overs, Then he has no character to do. Wahab Should be replaced with Junaid Khan. Khan has pretty good record at UAE. Jamshed should be rested he is not in touch. As pitches are slow , Pak need Player that can make team play 50 overs. i guess Asad Shafiq should play at no. 3 and Hafeez should open with Shahzad. Hafeez can play all around the circle but He needs confidence. He is doing good with ball. U Akmal should get a chance to play at no.4 because,unlike Misbah he can rotate the strike even when team is in pressure. Misbah can play at no.6 b/c He can hit the ball strongly.

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:33 GMT

    nasir jamshed last 11 odis 195 runs.

    and scores after india series in 19 innings.

    13,25, 10, 10, 20, 20, 0, 50, 42, 2, 6, 54, 20, 22, 23, 27,6, 2, 23, 32, 38, 0, 2

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    very nice to have another series between the two great nations

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    Junaid Khan should be in the line up in the place of Wahab or Sohail Tanvir. Asad Shafiq should come in for Umar Amin. pakistan could have so easily been 2-0, instead of 1-1.

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    Junaid Khan should be in the line up in the place of Wahab or Sohail Tanvir. Asad Shafiq should come in for Umar Amin. pakistan could have so easily been 2-0, instead of 1-1.

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    i think SA has many more questions to answer. Though score line is 1-1 but We all know that Sa can not take much from that 1st game win. It was paksitan all over them and played better apart from last few overs in 1st game. Amla's inclusion will definately boast their batting. But FAF is already failing. Robin may be a good option as he can provide some good spin option. and can score some runs like FAF.

    For pakistan, to me Nasir & Umar amin should give way to Asad & Maqsood. Or At least 1 of them to Maqsood. Rightly pointed in the article, what is the rle of Wahab riaz. if he is in for his batting then why not include a full batsman. and if only bowling then junaid is better option. That is why they should have a medium pace all rounder in team.

    Youngsters need to take responsibility. Umar Akmal, umar amin and ahmed shehzad should do more. Ahmed is scoring 50s but should concentrate for big score.

  • AhtshamCheema on November 5, 2013, 16:06 GMT

    i am in favour of only chang in the team, wahab should be dropd for sohaib maqsood and givng 3,4 ovrs to umar amin, nasir jamshed shoud not be dropd he is a very good batsman and opnr.

  • on November 5, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    i dont think another series has took any pressure off this 1. this is another series, followed by a 1-1 drawn test series. in another country and next will be in SA. so everything is different.

  • Z.Saleem on November 5, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    Nasir needs some rethinking to do (he should be rested as he is out of form), while Wahab is off no use - they should play a batsmen in his place. My replacement will be Sohaib in - Nasir out Asad/ Junaid in - Wahab out

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    I agreed with Muneeb Ali, Junaid Khan is superb bowler he should be included for rest of series.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on November 5, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    When is young De Kock going to get his chance? When he is 34 years old ? Faff needs to be dropped ASAP and thank goodness Lord Hashim Amla is back. All hail Lord Hashim Amla - all hail !!

  • xylofon on November 5, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    Nasir Jamshed is easily Pakistans best batsman of this lot. They way he got out the second time was to an incredible catch. Even if that is not ok its not irresponsible shot or because he likes to be rockstar like umar akmal. It will be a HUGE mistake if he is dropped. Simple as that. What they could do is put him on nr 3 - NOT as an opener. No matter how good someone is they must be allowed to play in the natural order.

    Nasir Jamshed only performed against India? Are you out of your mind? 97 runs against Austrialia from 98 balls mind you. And countless fifites. The only time Ive seen him fail clearly in a whole series was on green track against SA earlier this year. A lot of people have difficulties adapting to that surface against Steyn & co - whom are always labeled as green track bullies. (especially since he lost his temper in UAE the other day...he exposed himself not to be able to get pace on that surface...embarrising)

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Should be one-sided affair unless SA flops up again.

  • CodandChips on November 5, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    Surely Pakistan have better bowlers than Sohail Tanvir. As a Hampshire fan I know just how awful he is. He bowls too many wides and no balls and is a lazy fielder.

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:08 GMT

    Can someone please tell me why junaid khan is not in the paying 11..He has been the best fast bowler for pakistan for the past couple of years with an avg of 23 now and misbah still leaves him out because of his defensive captaincy ! the fact that cricone hasn't taken that fact into consideration now and how they keep ignoring him in the probable playing 11 shows their lack of knowledge

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:06 GMT

    I think Nasir Jamshed should be dropped, so as Wahab Riaz. Misbah should use Umer Amin for 3, 4 overs and in place of Wahab Riaz Shoaib Maqsood should be in the playing XI.

  • LeftBrain on November 5, 2013, 15:05 GMT

    Jamshed and Riaz should be dropped. period. They are given a very long rope and now they are strangling the team with that rope. Similarly Umer Amin should sit out and Asad Shafiq should play, Amin doesnt bowl at all, and doesnt score runs either, Asad with a test century against SA is a better option. Sohaib to replace Jamshed and if Umer Amin really has some powerful friends that ensure his inclusion in playing eleven, he should bowl atleast 5 overs in place of Riaz.

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    He is out, Dev whatmore told me during the session in Abu Dhabi

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    SA gonna defeat pakistan by a big margin... Pakistan has no class in batting against SA attack.. why play more matches when they dont deserve it..

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    so desprate for this match. this will decide the series fate. Goood Luck to both teams. May Allah Bless Pakistan.

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:41 GMT

    Please promote Umar Akmal at No. 3 while Hafeez at No. 6. Nasir Jamshed should be dropped and should be replaced by Sohaib Maqsood, Wahab Riaz should be included as he can also bat. As for as Afridi is concerned, he should come at No. 4. Why not try Misbah as an opener.. Maybe he can get his first ODI hundred. My playing XI would be Ahmad Shahzad, Misbah-Ul-Haq, Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Sohaib Maqsood, Umar Amin, Mohammad Hafeez, Sohail Tanvir, Wahab Riaz, Ajmal, Irfan. Best of luck!!!

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:32 GMT

    I really hope jamshed is dropped from this match. he only performed in india and ever since then he has almost every score under 2.

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  • on November 5, 2013, 14:32 GMT

    I really hope jamshed is dropped from this match. he only performed in india and ever since then he has almost every score under 2.

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:41 GMT

    Please promote Umar Akmal at No. 3 while Hafeez at No. 6. Nasir Jamshed should be dropped and should be replaced by Sohaib Maqsood, Wahab Riaz should be included as he can also bat. As for as Afridi is concerned, he should come at No. 4. Why not try Misbah as an opener.. Maybe he can get his first ODI hundred. My playing XI would be Ahmad Shahzad, Misbah-Ul-Haq, Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Sohaib Maqsood, Umar Amin, Mohammad Hafeez, Sohail Tanvir, Wahab Riaz, Ajmal, Irfan. Best of luck!!!

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    so desprate for this match. this will decide the series fate. Goood Luck to both teams. May Allah Bless Pakistan.

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    SA gonna defeat pakistan by a big margin... Pakistan has no class in batting against SA attack.. why play more matches when they dont deserve it..

  • on November 5, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    He is out, Dev whatmore told me during the session in Abu Dhabi

  • LeftBrain on November 5, 2013, 15:05 GMT

    Jamshed and Riaz should be dropped. period. They are given a very long rope and now they are strangling the team with that rope. Similarly Umer Amin should sit out and Asad Shafiq should play, Amin doesnt bowl at all, and doesnt score runs either, Asad with a test century against SA is a better option. Sohaib to replace Jamshed and if Umer Amin really has some powerful friends that ensure his inclusion in playing eleven, he should bowl atleast 5 overs in place of Riaz.

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:06 GMT

    I think Nasir Jamshed should be dropped, so as Wahab Riaz. Misbah should use Umer Amin for 3, 4 overs and in place of Wahab Riaz Shoaib Maqsood should be in the playing XI.

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:08 GMT

    Can someone please tell me why junaid khan is not in the paying 11..He has been the best fast bowler for pakistan for the past couple of years with an avg of 23 now and misbah still leaves him out because of his defensive captaincy ! the fact that cricone hasn't taken that fact into consideration now and how they keep ignoring him in the probable playing 11 shows their lack of knowledge

  • CodandChips on November 5, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    Surely Pakistan have better bowlers than Sohail Tanvir. As a Hampshire fan I know just how awful he is. He bowls too many wides and no balls and is a lazy fielder.

  • on November 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Should be one-sided affair unless SA flops up again.