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Jump before you are pushed, Chappell tells Ponting

ESPNcricinfo staff

December 30, 2010

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The former Australia captain Ian Chappell has called on Ricky Ponting to resign from the Test captaincy in the wake of England's Ashes-sealing victory in the fourth Test at Melbourne, and has warned that if he does not take the decision himself, he could run the risk of being pushed out of the door by the selectors. Australia's next Test campaign after the Ashes is the tour of Sri Lanka in August.

Ponting admitted in the wake of England's innings-and-157-run victory at the MCG that he "does not have much of a case" to present to the selectors, having presided over his third unsuccessful Ashes campaign, the most by any Australian captain since Billy Murdoch in the late-1800s. In the course of the series his batting form has collapsed, with a tally of 113 runs in eight innings, leading Chappell to suggest that he has passed his "use-by date".

"I've said all along that this should be the end of his Test captaincy reign," Chappell told ESPNcricinfo. "I think he should be given the opportunity to defend the World Cup as a captain, but I just hope he makes the decision himself. I'd hate to see Ricky Ponting get pushed, I'd rather see him jump than be pushed. So, I hope he makes the decision and preferably he makes it himself, but if he doesn't I hope that Cricket Australia suggest to him that it might be better if you went of your own volition, rather than us having to push you."

Ponting remains the most successful Australian captain of all time, with 48 victories in 77 Tests since 2004, while as a player he has taken part in 99 victories, the most by anyone in history. However, since the lost of Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne at the end of the 2006-07 Ashes, closely followed by other key team-mates such as Matthew Hayden and Adam Gilchrist, his record has faltered, with the Melbourne defeat being Australia's fifth in their last seven Tests.

"I think he has been terrific, and he has probably delayed this day," said Chappell. "This day was almost inevitable when you lose the standard of player that they lost three and four years ago. If you're being realistic, there was going to be a lot of doom and gloom around the corner.

"I think that has been delayed because of the form of Ricky Ponting, and the strength of Ricky Ponting as a captain," Chappell added. "But there comes a time for all captains, there's a use-by date, and when it's time to move on, it's about new players and a new captain. Sadly it's come on the end of a loss, but that's the way things work in sport."

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Posted by mspaloda on (January 1, 2011, 15:30 GMT)

The CHAPPALS need a break from Cricket and so does Ponting. Chappals should retire from commenting and Mr. Ponting from cricket and take the job of chappals.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2011, 11:41 GMT)

I would love to see Ponting as a Commentator in an India-Aus Test Match talking about Tendulkar while he approaches his Century :) It's my BIG dream and it may come true sooner than later...

Posted by 5wombats on (January 1, 2011, 10:51 GMT)

- First of all - can I say that I can't for the life of see what this ASHES series has got to do with tendulkar!!!!! Why oh why are there so many mentions of this INDIAN player? The ASHES is AUSTRALIA v ENGLAND. The name tendulakar isn't even mentioned in this article about PONTING. @Vroomfondel; On the face of it what you say seems to be right, however, Ponting is NOT Mr Nice-Guy - ask Hauritz, Doherty, White, and a few others. There is obviously some sort of chasm in the selector group, or else why did Merv Mughes jump? Ponting is a key part of Cricket Australia strategy - he's the guy who has input to it and has to implement it. But Ponting didn't have the skills or vision to develop the crop of rising talent and HE as captain did not bring players in soon enough. Ponting must be held accountable for the fall of Australia from No 1. in the world to No 5. The Border-Taylor-Waugh-Ponting dynasty has foundered on the rock of Rickys stubborness.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2011, 10:47 GMT)

I am right behind the South Africans in the present series but I am an great admirer of Sachin Tendulkar and recognise the quality of the Indian tolp order. I think that the top 5 in Test cricket are not far apart and the coming decade will see some interesting and exciting test cricket- and I am sure that we will see a resurgence in the Aussies. Long live test cricket!

Posted by crankypet on (January 1, 2011, 10:08 GMT)

Happy New Year. One year closer to the time when India's team will be decimated by retirements. Sick of the gloating on these pages about Australia's decline. It comes around. I'm sure there will be daily calls to Tendulker to "un-retire" also. I can't wait.

Posted by alkenned on (January 1, 2011, 2:11 GMT)

"Ludicrously overhyped Tendulkar"? I never had the opportunity to see Bradman bat but in Tendulkar I reckon we have the closest to him - how can that be overhyped? He scored more runs than any other Test batsman in 2010, and adapted his style to meet his advancing age - as Bradman also did. Ricky Ponting has been a wonderful batsman but needs to learn the same lessons, the first of which is that he must drop down the batting order to at least No 5 and that he needs to bat with more patience. There's no disgrace in batting down the order, Steve Waugh basically spent his while career there and was very effective.

Posted by MrMMJ on (January 1, 2011, 2:00 GMT)

Rickey Ponting is actually a spent force now. He used to be a good batsman but never a good sports person. He is crickets George W Bush. Arrogant, boorish and devoid of any decency. His antics over the years are quite evident. He is disgrace to the test cricket.

Posted by VisBal on (January 1, 2011, 1:38 GMT)

@ Saikrishnan Baskaran Actually, if you check the stats, you will find both of your statements are not true. As recently as 2008, he played four Tests (7 innings) where he only scored 95 runs with a top of 31. There are also several series throughout his career where he has averaged less than 40.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2011, 0:04 GMT)

@Willmot and other Tendulkar bashers, real problem is that bar for Tendulkar is so high that anything he does eventually become as expected event and so noone remembers it. But with Laxman and others, any small innings become exceptional performance. Tendulkar is God, so stop comparing him with mortals.

Posted by willmot on (December 31, 2010, 22:24 GMT)

@Saikrishnan Baskaran. If people contributing to this blog can't see the relative value of Laxman's innings in this test compared to Tendulkars hyped up innings of the 1st test then there's really no hope. Put simply, Laxman (and Sehwag) score runs that win matches. Tendulkar's runs very rarely (if at all) result in victories.

Hence cricketing captains round the world fear many batsmen far more than they ever feared Tendulkar whose 'fame' and records are based primarily on longevity.

Posted by crankypet on (December 31, 2010, 16:02 GMT)

@Something_Witty. Big difference between Hughes and Ponting situation. More talent?? You've got to be kidding. Wood (ave 31), Dyson (Ave 26), Yallop (41), Hughes (37), Trevor (Did anyone think that anyone would know Greg dropped out of this tour but I have a great surname) Chappell (ave 15)....and Border. Of course then Hughes was undermined during the whole tour by Liillee and Marsh who thought Marsh should be captain, betting against their own side when they lost at Headlingly. Hughes never got a fair deal, only getting to captain away from Australia and when he finally did he was still undermined all the time by the great 3 and of course Ian "Chairman of Selectors" Chappell on channel 9. They never liked Hughes because he didn't join their World Series Cricket. Now Ian wants Ponting out. Ian couldn't even carry Punter's boots in career comparison.

Posted by srtwows on (December 31, 2010, 11:35 GMT)

Couldnt agree more with Sai - To add on : If you have Hayden, Gilchrist, McGrath, Warne, Bevan in your team - Even Ravindra Jadeja will win Test Matches leading them... Ricky's entered when Aussies were at their peak - he just stayed in the team, batted in No Pressure situations and hogged limelight of the team !!! Anyday Hayden, Gilly and Bevan are better batsmen !!! - One would bet more on them than on Ricky. Started with a Silver Spoon - Ending with a Wooden one. Sachin, Lara, Jaywardena, Andy Flower etc,. held up with their Teams with their performances.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2010, 10:35 GMT)

"The situation is a little different, here. Tendulkar plays for a nation which would have endured a long period of poor performance and still called him the best since Bradman, and demanded his continuing inclusion." Correction. We Indians are mature enough to understand that a single batsman's performance cannot win you a match or series that why we don't lambast Sachin as even in losses he would've been our best performer. Would you aussies criticize Hussey for the ashes loss ???? The situation Hussey currently faces is the situation Sachin has been facing for the past TWO DECADES. Get your facts right mate.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2010, 10:28 GMT)

@Paullie I've never seen Tendulkar score 114 runs in 8 innings like Ponting did in the most important series for you Aussies. Tendulkar manages to score at least a century and average over 40 in almost every series he plays. There has been hardly any poor performance leave alone long periods of those. Hence there is hardly any room for criticizing Sachin.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2010, 9:38 GMT)

Is it just me, or are starting to see the NSW dominance come into play now? Khawaja, Clarke as the new captain and Dougy Bollinger coming into the team. If i'm not mistaken that's 7 NSW players in the Aussie team. (Watson, Hughes, Khawaja, Clarke, Haddin and Smith and Bollinger). And look how well it's turning out for us! Where's the Victorians? Won the Sheffield Shield the last 1000 years and won the T20 Big bash last 4 of 5 tournaments and dominating this year. David Hookes was right, when you get your baggy blue, they give you the baggy green at the same time

Posted by Aussasinator on (December 31, 2010, 8:51 GMT)

His use-by date as a player is over actually. As captain he had no use right from the start anyway!

Posted by willmot on (December 31, 2010, 7:17 GMT)

Chappell speaks his mind which is why he's hated by many. He's obviously correct on Pontings demise but the time comes for even the best batsmen of their generation which he is (and that includes the ludicrously overhyped Tendulkar). I'm suren nobody wants to see him struggle against bowling he would have pummelled in his prime.

Posted by cubkel on (December 31, 2010, 5:44 GMT)

Utter balderdash. Cmon Chappell. Ponting is one of the greats. He was let down by the selectors one and all. The tnesion for test places by frequent droppings and selections did nothing to bond a team. All were playing to retain their places and not for the team. I suppose you will now tell Ponting to bowl underarm!!! Yes??? Hussy lost the ODI to SriLanka by his slow batting to keep his place. Hauritz was dumped. Swan did not take many wickets either. So where are we?? All the selectors shoul save face and resign before they are pushed out for bad work. Do not shift the baby on to Ricky. He had too big a load to carry. No openers. No spinners. No middle order which cracked under the strain. What say you resign and stop the rubbish you talk when commentating.

Posted by ashish514 on (December 31, 2010, 4:35 GMT)

@Paullie- Check out Tendulkar's performance even in those "bad days", it was not as bad as Ponting's now. I don't completely disagree to your statement that India gives its players more time, yes that is the case with star performers but not with everyone. With the ruthless and sometimes disgusting media and the flurry of youth knocking selectors' door, it's not easy. And believing someone like Tendulkar pays off. Tendulkar also was pulled out off captaincy when he was failing to win.True he was not a very good captain. But Ponting too, is not a great captain (though better than sachin). He was always used to winning in the era of the greats assembled by Waugh. But as soon as he started to loose, he started to loose his calm and temper too. Nothing wrong with his tactics, but patience had all but gone which, evident from his face. He doesn't like to loose. He could do more with the patience and bracing for some losses in the process of renovation, but it's too late now, i guess.

Posted by oyoy on (December 31, 2010, 3:56 GMT)

Pointing fingers?? Chappel lives vicariously through his blame on others.

Posted by oyoy on (December 31, 2010, 3:42 GMT)

Pointing fingers (even the pinky) won't help Australia.... Moral of the story remember how you treated people on the way up.... they will be waiting for you on the way down. What is the deal with the brownies playing this silly colonial game lasting 5 days and spending all this time analyzing and making these silly inane and banal comments? Play a real game where you are on the field constantly active like soccer or basketball.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2010, 2:08 GMT)

If there is someone "eeking" out a career in television and cricket commentary it should be Ian Chappell. Dismissing greats like Ricky and Sachin and then using terms like "Second Wind" and the likes of it makes one wonder if Ian should pursue a career in Hollywood gossip channels or better join the neighborhood housewives association. If Ian asked the Mirror - "Mirror Mirror if Ian should retire?", the Mirror would say - "yeah old man, shouldn't have started in the first place".

Posted by crikey on (December 31, 2010, 1:55 GMT)

5wombats,with your logic, Hussey would not be playing.

Posted by tullym on (December 31, 2010, 1:00 GMT)

Steve Waugh said 'why drop someone unless you can bring someone into the team that will add something to the team'. Honestly who in the Aussie team is a better player/captain than Ricky Ponting.

You can't sack a captain for a TEAM's poor performance, he's doing the best with what he's got. A less experienced captain may have lost the ashes 5 - 0.

Posted by Vroomfondel on (December 31, 2010, 0:55 GMT)

@5wombats...you demonstrate exactly the kind of expectation of the captain that caused Punter's failings: you cannot expect the captain to lead on the field, perform on the field, AND develop cricket. He is not the (sole) selector of the team. Punter, by his own admission, has tried to be Mr Nice-Guy and best-mate to the players. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't. Cricket Australia must be held accountable for the lack of an established line of succession, not Ponting. You think they would have learned from what has transpired with the Windies. Australia: the new whipping boys of international cricket?

Posted by WC2011Champs on (December 31, 2010, 0:11 GMT)

Ian, this is called eking out a career. Ponting is way past his use-by date (about 3 years ago) and you and Greg Chappell are trying to resurrect his career. Unlike Sachin's case this time both of you are praising his past records and do not want to give up on Ponting. You were ready to retire Sachin at the age of 30 but not Ponting now. Sachin's was transitioning from a flamboyance to sobriety then to extend his career. And boy he came out even better in second phase. Ponting is never coming back. Sorry.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2010, 0:08 GMT)

Punter has won more Tests than Chappell has played. Chappell needs to stop barking & just shut up.

Posted by 5wombats on (December 30, 2010, 23:58 GMT)

"The time to repair the roof - is when the sun is shining" - John F Kennedy.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 22:45 GMT)

Ian is a contra indicator. And he blows with the wind. All this points to Pointing doing well in the future. Stick with it Ricky.

Posted by zizek-10 on (December 30, 2010, 22:38 GMT)

Afridi and chappell are in same league. Cahppell is as good a observer as Afridi is with the Bat in the sense they both shut their eyes during action. At least Chappell has shut his mouth in case of Master SRT. What more one can expect from that unyielding man-Chappel.

Posted by __PK on (December 30, 2010, 21:40 GMT)

Lots of comments here, reminding Chappelli that he made similar comments about Tendulkar a few years ago. The situation is a little different, here. Tendulkar plays for a nation which would have endured a long period of poor performance and still called him the best since Bradman, and demanded his continuing inclusion. Ponting plays for a nation which values the team's performance more and would give him much less latitude. Also, Ponting has the added pressure of leadership, something Tendulkar has been proven to be lacking.

Posted by Danksl on (December 30, 2010, 21:33 GMT)

I think Chapel is over reacting. I know Ponting has not being in a good form but Ponting is not the worse. I'm a Sri Lankan. Honestly we don't like Australian cricketers much. it's all because of how big headed they were. All I'm trying to say is Australia should learn to lose too. There is nothing more important that the Game. Australians wants to win, that's all some how to win. I do not think Ponting should resign. There is no one else Aussies has to take his place. The decade of Warni, Gilly, Hayden and Mcgrath is over Aussies should realize what they are missing than to fire captains

Posted by maxkuiters on (December 30, 2010, 20:39 GMT)

You don't think that Australia or Ricky had another choice? Unfortunately Australia didn't have the same quality of players with experience to replace 'The Greats' and Ponting was the most experienced player to lead an inexperienced team, putting Australia's interests before his own statistical records. Think about post-war Hammond. Now might be a good time to quit the captaincy. I do think he should keep playing, don't think a 'slump' should be seen as the end of his international career. Good player, Australia needs experience, maybe drop him down the order. Lastly I do think Chappell sometimes really loves the sound of his own voice and reminds me of that super hero - Captain Hindsight.

Posted by 5wombats on (December 30, 2010, 18:27 GMT)

@Itchy.... oh dear, oh dear. You have confirmed what I have been saying and that I do know what I'm talking about. Thank you. Part of management is to arrange succession - securing the future of your organisation. Australia could have and should have had plans and younger players in place ready to step in. Ponting was the central figure in this. It was principally his responsibility to bring on young talent - he even said so himself on many occasions. So why then did this not happen? It's too late now to talk about putting a broom through the lot of them and bringing in youth.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (December 30, 2010, 18:21 GMT)

Give up the captaincy Ricky. We will see a better batsman then. But wait clarke doesn't even deserve a place as batsman. Another innings defeat awaits

Posted by Bhatin on (December 30, 2010, 17:18 GMT)

Dear Ian, I completely agree with you that Ricky Ponting should give up captaincy and perhaps should retire from Tests and concentrate on ODIs. He is 36 and not in his prime any more. The age has taken onto his reflexes and his mental strength as well. He had been one of the best player of pull but in recent past, that shot has brought his downfall many times. Indian and Pakistani bowlers have worked him out on that. He may be able to come back but I am not sure if he can touch the same heights again. The comeback of Sachin Tendulkar to top form is an exception to the rule. But what about the selectors mate ? What about the person who is capable of creating mess in any great team and screw up the things.. your own brother Greg ? He should be the first person who should be shown the door. He messed with India and Irfan Pathan's career and they dumped him quickly. Its time that CA does that quickly before all is lost. This guy is a nightmare as a coach, strategist and administrator.

Posted by Divinetouch on (December 30, 2010, 14:51 GMT)

Ponting became captain of a good team bordering on great by default. Shane Warne the natural successor to Steve Waugh was overlooked brcause of non-cricket reasons.

Ponting would have been given the reigns much later and his record as captain would be more like it is now.

There is no doubt Ponting is a good batsman but to rank him with his contemporary greats like Tendulkar and Lara would be a disservice to cricket.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 14:50 GMT)

I have a strong feeling that Punter will have a glorious year, just like Sachin in the near future. When SRT was struggling some time back, the same Ian Chappel uttered same words. Now see what happened... Punter will make him eat his words

Posted by ravithecricbuff on (December 30, 2010, 14:29 GMT)

well, Ponting has deserved to go on a high..he should allow himself that liberty by calling it quits and not be in any ego, as he has none left anyway!! he was a great batman...and that much and more of a badman!!no I can not say he did not deserve this day in his life...this black spot in his overly hyped career!!

Posted by 6pack on (December 30, 2010, 13:51 GMT)

Ian Chappell instinctively jumps to "expert" conclusions all the time. I remember him clearly saying Tendulkar should look at himself in the mirror and say it's time to go (and that was 4 years ago during the 2007 World Cup). Tendulkar has probably been better over the past 2 years than before! Why people still think Chappell calls anything right, I have no clue. Yes, Ponting isn't in great form, and perhaps should retire after the WC, but I wouldn't want to hear that from a chap who loves to run down players while they're struggling and state the obvious wihout any real 'expert' insight.

Posted by Something_Witty on (December 30, 2010, 12:56 GMT)

Ricky gets far too much criticism. He has for a long time managed to keep the Australian team hugely competitive even *after* losing nearly two whole teams worth of absolute legends. For all people criticise his captaincy and say it's only because he had great players to work with, that is a load of rubbish. No matter how great your players are, if you aren't able to get the best out of them, you will not win matches. Kim Hughes' reign over the 1981 tour of England is the perfect example. Tons of talent in the team, but led by a captain who was not up to it, and so they came up well short. Ponting is/was a good, solid captain, quite conservative at times, rather like Andrew Strauss. He was never a brilliant tactician in the Mark Taylor mould, nor was he quite as ruthless as Steve Waugh, but he was a good captain and a great leader of men. He will be missed.

Posted by chakri_ek on (December 30, 2010, 12:55 GMT)

The whole situation is a result of peoples' blind faith that the Shield tournaments would produce the next Warne and McGrath. Well, they didn't. Forget replacing Warne and McGrath, they don't have guys who could match other teams man to man. What could Ricky do? he could only guide and offer support. He simply could not bat for North and other guys. Ricky could have walked away after dishing out the 5-0 whitewash. But he stayed on. As captain, it was his duty to see over the team's transition. That he could not do it was not his fault. He simply did not get the support. His vice-captain had personal problems and his best batsman forgot which end of the bat to hold (for a while). His bowlers were getting whipped. What could he possibly do? Still he is trying to carry on knowing fully well that only eternal damnation awaits him. Chappel can say what he wants. But for the rest of his life, Ricky Ponting will see a winner whenever he stands in front of a mirror. That's what counts!

Posted by The_Professor on (December 30, 2010, 12:54 GMT)

I tend to disagree with Ian Chappell - we all remember he gave Sachin similar retirement advise just a couple of years ago and that was followed by Sachin's best form to date! I think Ricky should stick around simply because there is no one else making a compelling case for the captaincy or #3 spot. Michael Clarke has been uninspiring and until Khawajah or another young batsman succeeds at one drop, Ricky has a role to play. Now that the high pressure Ashes series is over, Ricky can be used to mentor the youngstars and future captain.

Posted by manianpbs7 on (December 30, 2010, 12:18 GMT)

Although I am not a big fan of Aussies or Ponting, I would like to point out that he is yet to lose a world cup game as a captain. He is leading a team in transition and it might take time for Aussies' to find a grip at par with their past shadow. Rolling Punter's head and pointing hands at him or selectors is complete farce. Given time, Aussies can assemble the right team from their academy to come back on track.

Posted by nishadck on (December 30, 2010, 12:17 GMT)

ian chappel should seriously consider to stop writing such commends on present day cricketers.i remember he asking tendulkar to retire from cricket after indias failure in the 2007 world cup. and since the world cup tendulkar has been playing his best cricket. my advice to all cricket lovers is that please never lend ur ears to people like chappell. now he asks ponting to retire from cricket due to his poor form uninspiring captaincy. its ok but there is no other player in australian team with not even half of pontings mental strength. and apart from ponting none avereges above 50 in batting in the team of course ponting is struggling for runs but having him in the team is the best possible thing to do for australian cricket as his experiences are invaluable. people like ian chapell should stop talking about present cricketers otherwise they are going to loss the love affection and reputation asw former players from the cricket loving public

Posted by Naren on (December 30, 2010, 11:56 GMT)

Lot of people are writing crap here about Ricky. Ricky at his best was even better than Sachin. That is the truth. He was a true match winner. Handling captaincy and playing puts a lot of pressure, that too when a team is in transition. He was inspirational to the debutants. He was a great cricketer. Could have done better with a better on-field behavior. He had led his team to three unbeaten world tournaments (2 World cups and 1 Championship trophy). One of them without both Warne and Mcgrath, as lot of people try to malign him on that account. He is a terrific player. I think he should resign on a high after leading to 1 more World cup triumph. I think he can, as he played ok in Indian conditions recently and Australia is still a good one day team.

Posted by BapiDas on (December 30, 2010, 11:43 GMT)

I would have loved to hear what Dean Jones has to say! "Pprofessor Deano" was confident that Ricky Ponting was the only one cricketer who could match and probably even surpass Sachin Tendulkar's achievements! Well, well, well, Sachin still continues to thrive while Ponting seems to have neared the 'end of the road' as far as his international cricketing career is concerned.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 11:38 GMT)

it had to be hussey or katich, even if it is for two years. age might not be on their side, but it can be safely said that they could have seen Australia through this tough period, while giving clarke an additional year or two to regroup himself. time is just not right for pup to take on the reins. and odi captaincy for cameron white after the cup.

Posted by UNIVERSAL_CRICKETER on (December 30, 2010, 11:29 GMT)

RICKY PONTING IS A GREAT BATSMAN, NO DOUBT..............AMONG TOP 3 OF HIS GENERATION...................BUT WHY IS HIS AVG. ONLY 26 ON DEAD INDIAN PITCHES AGAINST SISSY SPIN................OR AVGS. IN AUSTRALIA & ENGLAND ONLY COUNTS TO BE CALLED A GREAT BATSMAN!!!!!!!!!..............HIS AVG. UNDER STEVE WAUGH IS ....64 !!!..........BECAUSE WAUGH LEFT A STRONG TEAM OF HAYDEN, LANGER, GILCHRIST, WARNE, MCGRATH,SYMOND. ..FOR RICKY TO MILK & CLAIM GREATNESS AS CAPTAIN..................WITHOUT THEM PONTING'S LIMITED GRAY MATTERS ARE EXPOSED....NOT A SINGLE ASTUTE MOVES IN ASHES OR BEFORE...........WARNE WAS THE RIGHTFUL SUCCESSOR TO WAUGH........HE WON IPL-1 WITH BUNCH OF MEDIOCRE UNKNOWNS............RICKY SHOULD RETIRE BEFORE HIS ARROGANT ANTICS WITH UMPIRES & OPPOSITION DISGRACES HIM FURTHER...........

Posted by hattima on (December 30, 2010, 11:18 GMT)

I wonder why the Chappell brothers are always after the most respected players. A batsman of Ponting's class should be allowed to choose when he wants to leave; I am sure he is just going through a lean patch. Remember that if Greg Chappell had his way, Tendulkar would have been coaching kids now. I am sure Ponting has atleast 2-3 years in him.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 11:12 GMT)

Ponting has been the back bone of Australian cricket, I have seen n number times when a first wicket falls ,he come in and smashes a 100 in no time and his team is rescued,I am sure he will be regarded for the better things he has done for australia/cricket than the 3 losses of a tiny urn.

1) he was the man who showed courage to come back to the field when kemar roach had hit him with a snoter 2) he was the person who had won 2 world cups as a captain. 3) winning 16 tests in succession 4) Moblies new resourses to win/defend the champions trophy. 5) he was the best captian of the decade

I just didn't give thought but could get five great reasons of greatness, whereas he lost only 3 ashes in his whole career, spare a thought, I know every object in life has an expiry date, but he deserves better words to be used than just being lambasted by media and all the comments from the readers.

PS: In india Sachin 50th century was regarded more than the innings defeat, what a shame.

Posted by arunrajaram on (December 30, 2010, 11:08 GMT)

Dear Mr.Chappell, I respect your cricketing knowledge but sometimes you annoy us. I personally don't like Ponting, but doesn't write-off his achievements for australian cricket. Please give the respect this man deserves. I'm puzzled how can you make such statements on Ponting. I believe your opinion on Ponting was completely different before the start of Ashes and now it is the other way around. I'm do not have enough knowledge on Aussie cricket, but from what I hear from most of the Aussie fans is that your selection committee is a CRAP!! Please replace them first before you think of replacing the players. How on earth you can play 6 bowlers which includes 2 all rounders with one being below average (Steven Smith). Where is Cameron White?? Nathan Hauritz requires a longer run. I can see a lot of people writing that ponting is out!! Relax!! He is out because of an injury and would be back in the team after he gets 100% fit. He would certainly get a better farewell than this.

Posted by test_tragic on (December 30, 2010, 11:08 GMT)

It's a shame if this is it for Ponting. I truly believe there are a lot more runs in him yet but the weight of an under-performing team has been too much. He is one of the few greats in the test arena still playing and deserves to bat on. Tendulkar had a much longer slump but is still playing because he isn't captain and look now he has a couple of his best years yet. Go on Ricky, you deserve to go out winning and making runs (But I think those that really decide (the media/commentators) have it in their control).

Posted by sanjaybaurai on (December 30, 2010, 10:55 GMT)

At times I think that we may be over-reacting - world cup is round the corner. Last couple of years have been probably tough given that few old stalwarts had to go but then every one needs time to rebuild. His own form has been under question but he is not the first one to go through such a rough patch, even Sachin had a bad year or two and people were gunning for his head too and today everyone is singing carols in his honor. I think Ponting has one of the greatest batsman the game has ever seen and right now he is the best man to lead Australia, at least till the wold cup. But if he has to go, then I will miss his arrogance, his unpopularity as a man and his domination of the crease.

Posted by manoftheseries on (December 30, 2010, 10:49 GMT)

Chappell need to be shown a chappell.. thinks himself as genius and speaks non sense..

Posted by ddmartyn on (December 30, 2010, 10:16 GMT)

I don't think Ponting is finished as a captain. As others have noted you cannot blame him alone for this failure. He is one of the all time greats and he will find his batting form again, but give him a team he can work with and he will win matches again for sure.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 10:15 GMT)

I agree with @gettussaa... Hussey will be a bold but realistic choice as captian..Aussies are now in the rebuilding stage with the next few years supposed to be progressively tough for them, till the new crop comes thru... Clarke is struggling probably to keep his place and the last thing aussies would want is to have someone in the same mould as Ponting's present state of mind & form.In the next 2 years, when Hussey is ready to hang up his boots, CA should be able to groom some one for the job...This long term thing which CA may be looking at is not always advisable...

Posted by bashok87 on (December 30, 2010, 10:11 GMT)

Austarlia U sent my favourite captains Mark taylor and Steve Waugh unceremoniously.... now it's time for Ponting (the most over-rated captain)... Unfortunately he didn't even know which was his last test.... There he goes

Posted by deegowd on (December 30, 2010, 10:10 GMT)

Is this the same guy who suggested that Sachin should retire 2 years ago?

Posted by SibaMohanty on (December 30, 2010, 10:08 GMT)

Give the man his due. He has been a wonderful servant to Australian cricket. Just that the Oz's loss cycle timed with Punter. Had to happen. He deserves more salutes than he is being given. Adios, Punter.

Posted by Punter_28 on (December 30, 2010, 10:02 GMT)

Ponting with all his heroics both in tests & one dayers will attract little sympathy due to his on-field antics. When an all time great like him decide to call it a day, usually the whole cricket fraternity feel sorry cutting across countries as it happened in the case of a Warne, a Mcgrath , a Lara .... But, Punter when he leaves no tears will be shed... it is better he quits immediately to avoid further embarrassment!!!

Posted by Itchy on (December 30, 2010, 9:53 GMT)

@5wombats: I suspect that you dont know what the hell you're talking about. The main reason that Aus has slipped down the test rankings is due to the retirement of a large number of very talented players over the last 5 or 6 years. Let me name a few: S. Waugh, G. McGrath, J. Langer, M. Hayden, S. Warne, D. Martyn, A. Gilchrist, B. Lee, J. Gillespie. Add in Clarke and Ponting and you have the test team of 2004 when Aus were the undisputed No. 1 test nation. Such players are very difficult to replace - this has been shown over the recent series Aus have played. Personally, I would like the selectors to put a broom through the entire side and pick young guys with the occasional older player. Pick players consistently and give them time to adjust to the higher standard of cricket with different conditions. Keep Hughes, Smith and add in White, Paine, Ferguson. Accept that there will be tough times but you are building for the future - this tactic has worked for England.

Posted by cricsom5667 on (December 30, 2010, 9:50 GMT)

Mr. Chappell, as a distinguished commentator, we would rather like to hear your suggestions for re-surrecting the Aussies. Dumping a legend on the wane is easy. The discarding comes very easy to you & your brother Greg. Why don't you for a change unleash the wisdom piled up in your grey hairs over the last 40 years of involvement to come out with a solution for building up the Australian team ? Whilst I heartily admit that the healthy iconoclasm of an average aussie ensures that none of their greats rest on past laurels & deliver continuously (I wish we had the same thing in India as the game & country is greater than any individual), a compassionatel tone on a public forum for a legend is de jure. Though I have hated Ricky for his on field behaviour & sledging in general , I was a bit peeved by the disrespectful & patronising tone of your article . Punter is human too & deserves a send off like a legend for his contributions which have been immense. Ps:RP's records are better than urs

Posted by crikey on (December 30, 2010, 9:48 GMT)

Don't listen to anyone but me Ricky.You have got the job till you say so.You have earned that as far as I am concerned.Thank you for all the entertainment you have given me.To all the distractors:go jump in the lake.You got rid of the Waugh's ,Gilly ,Haydos,etc. all before their time.Especially the australian press,I loath you.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 9:47 GMT)

clarke is even more liar and dis-honest than Ponting. Because Ponting was Great as batsman, his other bad-qualities were not over emphasized, but Clarke will make Aus side more hateble. Why people want AUS to lose the match, coz they have made a reputation among us they will cheat during the game if not winning...remeber INDIA's match???

Posted by 5wombats on (December 30, 2010, 9:43 GMT)

@kevindon; Ricky had an onkus attitude at times and he was a bad ambassador for his country and his sport. That business with the Umpires the oher day.... dear oh dear! Great with the willow - no dispute there. Pity about the rest of the package.

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (December 30, 2010, 9:37 GMT)

I'll take captain BB's analogy about his grandpa a little further. Ricky won't give up his car keys! The only way anyone will get them is by prising them from his cold-dead hands. Ricky has surveyed the situation and has decided he can stay on. This is just another one of the errors in judgement that typify the man. He won't resign. He will have to be pushed!

Posted by CrktBrain on (December 30, 2010, 9:31 GMT)

Ponting could have retired as a great but not now. I still remember that unforgettable series against india when he initially came to agreement with Kumble about not involving 3rd empire for catching decisions and leave the decision to the player involved and then using that agreement unfairly to his own advantage. One's character is tested the most when chips are down and everytime the chips have been down for Australia Ponting has been very loose. I think he is a great player but does not have a very strong character. My sincere apologies if my comments hurt somebody and these are only my feelings and I am not the one to decide who is great who is not.

Posted by fijiguy on (December 30, 2010, 9:30 GMT)

Ponting should have stepped down long ago. He is still saying he has lot to offer with bat and being captain. He said this before touring India, after touring India and before the start of the Ashes. And after all his failures, he still is saying that he has a lot to offer...so WHY didn't he offer in the ashes, what was he waiting for...he is just ARROGANT!!...Chappell is right that he has gone by his use date.

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (December 30, 2010, 9:27 GMT)

CA will make Clarke captain - no matter what anybody else says. That's the way they do things.

Posted by don_quixote on (December 30, 2010, 9:20 GMT)

Mr Chappell - You are have been known to call "time" on talented cricketers careers beforehand (we all remember your astute assessment on when sachin should be dropped). I think the situation is the same. Ricky is struggling because his team is struggling and he's trying too hard. He does need a break from captaincy but there is no better batsman in Australia than him. This is from an Indian supporter who has no great affection for the man. He is a great batsman - that's a fact....

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 9:18 GMT)

Hats off to one of the Greatest batsmen of all time. You made cricket proud by your batting Ponting (Not by your game)

Posted by vimalkm on (December 30, 2010, 9:14 GMT)

I cant believe this.Finally an end to aus era....it was great while it lasted. But with respect to ponting, great batsman up there among the legends BUT not a great captain he had the team, shane mcgrath,hayden gilli. think any one can be a great cap with that team.Now is when he shouldH have shown us he is a great cap when he has a new young team BUT no he doesnt perform. pressure is on him and he crumbles. Shows cricket is a team sport and your a good cap if your team is good. any way farewell...ricky was amazing to watch you all these years.THANK YOU!

Posted by vpk23 on (December 30, 2010, 8:15 GMT)

OHI! HE DAY IS NOT YET COME. NOT YET!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 8:03 GMT)

People here don't get it. Ponting is 36, Hussey 35, Katich 35. There's no point in letting them continue. It's time to plan for the next Ashes campaign and beyond. No more excuses, no more tolerance of failure. Time to make changes and to meld a new team. It's over. I don't agree with the selectors' choices and I think they have contributed to the team's failure, but it looks like they have already chosen Hughes and Smith,and now Kawaja, so they will stick with them now. Clarke has always been the next captain, so they won't change it now. Truth is, if he had been made captain last year at this time he was in good form and there would have been no complaints. His failures have come from Ponting's stress. If he's no good at it, play Haddin as a batsman and captain and put Paine in as keeper.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 7:58 GMT)

Should Ponting retire or just relinquish the leadership role to one of his team mates? Personally I think he still has a great deal to offer Australia, but I doubt his pride will allow him to don the baggy green under the captaincy of another player. If we have seen the last of Ponting it'll be a sad end for one of the truly great player of this or any other generation. Personally, I think he's earned the right to walk away from the game under his terms and not because of a broken finger.

If I were calling the shots I'd like to see Ponting retain his captaincy but drop down to the #5 slot behind Katich, Watson, Hussey, and Clark. Ease some of the pressure he shoulders as the #3 batsman and allow him to build his confidence back,

Posted by akchowdary on (December 30, 2010, 7:53 GMT)

Fall of an empire...

Must be tough for aussies to bounce back.. If pointing goes, there is no one in current team to inspire them...

No strong opening pair.. no solid middle order.. unknown bowlers.. This is not the australian team that I know...

Posted by indianzen on (December 30, 2010, 7:52 GMT)

Better cancel the Ashes with Australia and ask England to try with INDIA... matches Vs Australia and no more interesting... Next series Bangladesh will win over Australia...

Posted by Arlecchino on (December 30, 2010, 7:34 GMT)

So RK you may wish to condone the behaviour of Zaheer or Harbajanh Singh but single out Ponting for the "bad behaviour award". One has to see this latest chapter in Australian and in fact World Cricket in its proper context. The World has caught up to Australia who showed the way for so many years. Their sport academies and schools of excellence have made this country with a comparitively small population, leaders in many sports. Ponting is part of the generation who grew up in this super competitive, professional environment and I applaud his record. Perhaps Cricket Australia are at fault for not giving him a competitive team.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 7:31 GMT)

To me, I think CA needs to take the same approach which was taken by BCCI when Rahul Dravid stepped down....get Brad Haddin or Simon Katich to captain the team and at the same time, groom someone like Cameron White or Callum Fergusson.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 7:29 GMT)

very very unfortunate way to say gud by to some one like punter.....we wil always remember you.

Posted by Quazar on (December 30, 2010, 7:25 GMT)

Ponting can stay on as the No. 4 or No. 5 batsman, but it's time to look for a new leader. Haddin (suggested by Chappell) or Hussey could do the job for the next 1 year or so, while grooming the next leader...either Ferguson or White or maybe even Clarke if he proves he's toughening up.

Posted by sachin1088 on (December 30, 2010, 7:18 GMT)

Show me a player who is going through a bad patch, and i'll show you Chappel trying to earn money by writing articles about how that player show retire now. He did the same when Tendulkar had a lean patch due to injuries or whatever. He is doing the same now. But Tendulkar's form is a slap on Chappel's face. I hope ponting gives him a slap or two also. Chappels articles are stupid.

Posted by SanthoshIyer on (December 30, 2010, 7:18 GMT)

As I'm an great fan of Sir Ian Chappell's commentary for the past 20 years, I truly agree with what Sir Chappelli has said about Ponting. In fact he had mentioned at the start of the series that Ponting has to leave his job after the Ashes series which I think has eventually happened by dropping him for the Sydney test. I say drop here because Ponting is not injured here. If that was the case, he shouldn't have played the MCG test. The Australian selectors have now committed a blunder by giving captaincy to Clarke who is pathetically out of form this series and the series he played in India. I saw a video analysis of Chappelli saying that Clarke has not even captained NSW and also he mentioned that Clarke is not mentally right for this job. I would have preferred Mike Hussey to atleast try something new. In all I think its an End of another Aussie Legend here called RICKY THOMAS PONTING.

Posted by Rohan0309 on (December 30, 2010, 7:12 GMT)

Just can't help wondering whether this is the fate other captains in the world will face after the senior pros retire? Will MSD face such issues after the Big 3 of Sachin, RD and VVS retire from tests?

Posted by chillu_chillu on (December 30, 2010, 7:07 GMT)

Retain him as a batsman, captaincy pressures are getting the better of him,thanks to the ashes hype...

Posted by MahinMA on (December 30, 2010, 7:07 GMT)

Hard luck Ricky.....

many young guns are waiting

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 6:53 GMT)

I wpold have got rid of him a long timeago

Posted by A_HTIMAN on (December 30, 2010, 6:50 GMT)

Though he is not a good captain as a batsman he is purely a genius. A role model as a batsman if needed to follow. I still thinks he needed a farewell test. :(

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 6:49 GMT)

The demise of this fellow started after the way he behaved after the Sydney test in 2008. What comes around goes around. He showed his true class with the way he was arguing with Aleem Dar. Michael Clark is a joker

Posted by firey1 on (December 30, 2010, 6:43 GMT)

It's actually Chappell thats washed up, Should never have been a selector.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 6:41 GMT)

When deciding Ponting's outcome we should consider how it prolonged Sachin Tendulkar's career when he relinquished the captaincy. Ponting is certainly still one of the best batsmen in Australian cricket and is a great of the game. Unfortunately the pressure of trying to lead a young inexperienced side was always going to affect his batting. On top of this his openers have continually failed to see out the new ball this whole series. This extra pressure has clearly not helped. Perhaps he could drop down a place in the order. Clarke clearly needs a rest and surely if there is any talk about dropping a player it should be him before Ponting!

Posted by RakeshShrivastava on (December 30, 2010, 6:36 GMT)

Chappell has suggested something similar to Sachin Tendulkar in 2007.. His words were: "Before anybody else makes a decision on what will happen to Tendulkar the player himself has to have a good long look in the mirror and decide what he's trying to achieve in the game," n we all know what Tendulkar has achieved since then, after having a long look in the mirror ... :D!! M sure, Ponting knows what is best for him ...

Posted by rod81 on (December 30, 2010, 6:27 GMT)

Ian, I think you are past your use by date as a commentator. You have gunned for every Australian Captain that I can remember Hughes, Border, Taylor, Waugh and now Ponting. Ricky has been a great player and captain. The team is rebuilding which is taking time. His form is not up to his lofty standards but he still deserves the chance to turn it around. He has pretty much been an opener in this series with the top two failing in nearly every innings. Time to maybe drop down one or two positions in the order to get another 2 years out of him. I had to laugh at Mike Gatting as one of your top ashes captain "an underated captain" He had 2 wins in 23 tests. 2 wins agaisnt probably Australias worst team of all time. It shows how out of touch you are. Your television commentating is becoming more boring than ever and you are showing the signs of being a bitter old man. Ian Chappell time for you to retire so we can enjoy Channel Nines otherwise great coverage.

Posted by Rajanpradeep on (December 30, 2010, 6:23 GMT)

Wow! Wow! Wow! I am absolutely enjoying Ponting's end!!!!! What a pleasant sight to see Greg Chappell with them. HURRAH!!!!! God Bless Australia!

Posted by mamahajan89 on (December 30, 2010, 6:14 GMT)

he has been my favourite batsman and my favourite captain since he took over the reins in 2004.....nobody should ever doubt his ability to bat...to captain....at the twilight of ur career not everyone would have a dream swansong as steve waugh or imran khan.... all he cn do is give up captaincy and render his services to baggy greens as a top class batsman. LONG LIVE RICKY PONTING.... poms have played well but they are not anywhere near the grace exhuberated by aussies in their high times! poms are flying high....but let India tour them and cometh the next ashes.....it'd b a case for TEAM RETIREMENT!!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 6:10 GMT)

Ricky ponting made a huge blunder. Knowing he was not 100% fit for the boxing day test, he risked not only himself but also the entire continent of Australia by playing unanimously. What he should have done was to volunteer and step down for the test and let someone like Khawaja to fill the dearth until he gets recovered. He was too greedy and selfish, decided to go other way.

Posted by gettussaa on (December 30, 2010, 6:09 GMT)

Good-bye Ponting ! As far as the replacement goes, Clarke is tame and washed out. It has to be Hussey, someone the whole cricketing world respects. He's old but he has to be made a captain untill one of the younger lot is ready for captaincy. India played similar trick with Kumble, untill Dhoni was ready.

Posted by 32_shekhar on (December 30, 2010, 6:07 GMT)

Cruel game, this cricket is!!!!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 6:06 GMT)

World is round & so is cricket. All great teams have their ups & down . Aussies r no exception. As for chappel dont fully agre with him regarding pontings expiry time[in cricketing terms]. HE IS STILL D BEST MAN TO LEAD. uNFORTUNATELY his form has deserted him when his team is not performing or so to say the opposition is in prime form. And also ponting should reconcile to the fact that he is leading an ordinary team unlike past where he had personnel who were automated professionals who dint even need a captain/coach. they were just majestic in their game. He should start performing & instil confidence in his men & stop being rash/aarogant with his opponents. Humility is prerequisite for greatness. There is thin line between arrogance & ruthlessness. Hope its point taken punter.

Posted by TheOnlyEmperor on (December 30, 2010, 6:03 GMT)

There are 2 roles that Ponting plays - as Captain and as Player. As Captain in 2010, Ponting has lost 5/12 test matches out of a total 16 test match losses as captain. This 2010 record can be termed unacceptable. The losses themselves can be because of : 1. Poor team performance. 2. Good opposition performance. 3. Bad captaincy. I would rate only 1/5 losses to bad captaincy, 2/5 to poor team performance and 2/5 to good opposition performance. The bad team performance leads to bad captaincy judgement as well as enhanced opposition performance. Bad team performance could be because of : 1. Poor batting 2. Poor bowling. Batting performances of the openers, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey and the middle have been below par. The bowling lacks venom. So these problems are systemic and no other replacement captain would have done better than Ponting. The solution : Fix the batting performance first. Retain Ponting as captain till then!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 6:01 GMT)

@kevindon : Dude, are you related to Ricky or something? At a time when even most Australians are questioning his professionalism and leadership abilities, you have found it in yourself to salute him? It's real professional to argue with the umpires in the midst of booing fans when the decision doesn't go your way, isn't it? Ponting had a free ride for years on the back of McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Hayden, Lee and Gillespie, and when he was tested in their absence, what has he come up with? Their worst test run in decades! Of course one could argue that he needs support from his team to win games, but then he himself has not exactly been exceptional as a batsman either. Maybe if he let go of his arrogance and admit humbly to his weaknesses, he still has a chance to retain his spot in the team. But he seems so hell-bent on retaining captaincy that it looks as though the only way he will step down will be if he is made to - and that is the point of Ian. When Chapell says, its time to go

Posted by Bikram.Singh on (December 30, 2010, 6:00 GMT)

I think Mr. Ian Chappel is forgetting that his man Ricky ponting has to take over sachin tendulkar in test batting records. I hope he got his answer now, that there is only one sachin tendulkar.

Posted by BullPUP on (December 30, 2010, 5:59 GMT)

i just dont get it. Just because he has a poor record for the past few matches his victories are forgotten. Life is hard. Apart from his on field behavior he is one of the most perfect captains in the world. He is not done yet. He will be back. Aussies can turn dangerous when injured. its quite funny. Thats what KP told before leaving for australia. But England prevailed. Anyways we haven seen the last of ponting yet.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:58 GMT)

I think it is time to Quit...I am talking about Ian Chappell commenting and it is time for him to retire. We have someone talking about Ponting....who has only played as many test matches as What Ponting played in a stretch. Ian Chappel's comment looks like a school boy reacting to a mistake. Agrees Ponting has not performed in this Ashes...But i remember lot of Ian Chappel's commentary that "Form is temporary and form is permanent", I am not sure why Ponting is an exemption to that. Please allow him to get back to form and make 2011 WC competitive. If Ian wants to blame someone for loss of urn...please blame the selectors of 1999-2008, who were greedy to win matches than doing appropriate succession planning. Barring Hussey and Ponting no other current player of current Aussie's team are closest match to the player of Australia between 1999-2008

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

Ricky has done yeoman service to Australia not only as a captain but also as a player. 12000 plus runs in test cricket, speaks volumes. To say goodbye is not easy, i recon that he should take into consideration the thoughts of Ian Chapel. Ricky, you don't deserve to be pushed out through the back door, but please don't create a gateway for the selectors to force the issue. Sanath Jayasuriya was Sri Lanka's icon before he made a mess of his career, his reputation, by pro longing his career. is on stormy waters. Ricky, you are far from the likes of Jayasuriya,hence put your hand up and throw in the towel, so that your name will live to infinity, in the cricket world.

Brian Thomas from Sri Lanka

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:52 GMT)

chappel said the same bs about sachin after wc 07 and look where he is now ponting's form will come back...selectors shdn't force him to retire as he is still one of best batsman of modern era

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:52 GMT)

Apart from his current form, Ricky's major problem has been the retirement of Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist etc. They were a truly outstanding team. Sadly, now this is all a part of the cycle - the ups and downs. You can't always be at the top. Oz are back into a similar situation as happened in the 80's. Along with a new selectorial approach, a gutsy leader like Border is also needed, Clarke is not that man at the moment. But sooner than later, Oz will be back as Number One.

Posted by kurups on (December 30, 2010, 5:51 GMT)

To push Ponting out would be the most cruel thing to do...it is just that Aussies win statistics in the past two decades has set a precedent that is hard to emulate..they cant keep winning all the time...so dont blame Ricky.. Cricket is a team game. So dont push out this great batsman- intense cricketer. I hat to see him go..ponting's pull is never too full!!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:49 GMT)

@ Kevindon - I agree 100%. Amongst his contemparies, he stands out head and shoulders above any other player as someone willing to sacrifice his career for the better of his country. He hasnt hung on to the captaincy because hes greedy - hes hung on to it because he honestly believes and wants to make a major contribution towards cricket Aus. He could have retired from it 4 yrs ago and reaped the battign rewards. I for one believe that as soon as he loses the captaincy the runs will flow again. GO RICKY. Good effort mate!! Haddin for Captain by the way! :)

Posted by prashant1 on (December 30, 2010, 5:49 GMT)

Here's Pontings record ….From debut to 2003 : 99 inn. 4195 @ 49.4 ,.… From 2003-07: 80 inn.4993@74.5….. From 2007 -date : 77 inn. 3040 @ 41.1 ……. Ponting was a great batsman for 5 out of his 16 years . Period. His overall record makes him appear better than he really was.

Posted by lien on (December 30, 2010, 5:48 GMT)

There has never been and never will be a cricket captain who can lead a poor or inconsistent bowling side(you cannot set a field for poor bowling) - when you add to that, the core of the teams batsman being out of form you have the ideal recipe for failure. I am sure Ian Chappell does not need to be reminded of what caused the demise of Bill Lawry during the '71 Aus tour of South Africa, Chappell being one of the biggest failures in that test series. He then went on to inherit some extremely good bowlers and batsman enjoying a successful reign as captain.

Posted by shrikm on (December 30, 2010, 5:47 GMT)

With Mcgrath, Shane Warne, Gilchrist, Hayden, Brett Lee gone, Ponting has to deal with the very inexperienced team to retain Ashes, So its natural that they lost and it will take a couple of years for this team to perform as Aussies expect them to. I back Ponting as a captain and should be given one more year with this team. the main worry for him is his own batting form which if comes good can score huge totals and give some breathing space for the inexperienced bowling attack.

Posted by australiadumps on (December 30, 2010, 5:47 GMT)

Well i totally support chappell time is running out for ponting and he must step down before a sack. ponting has never been a good captian he has got 3 or 4 world class players who always won matches for him .now when responsiblity comes he cant cope up with it and bat as he used to be when langer, hayden, gilli was there....these three in the batting department and mcgrath and shane are the world class bowlers and there is nothing to do with rickys captancy to take asutralia to a victory...credit must go to gilli, langer,mcgrath,warne and hayden ....ricky ponting was is not a good leader at all..and time for ricky to step down and spend time some with family to look after his wife and son..

Posted by crazytaurean on (December 30, 2010, 5:41 GMT)

Ponting is arguably still the best batsman in the side. A pair of average openers never playing a long innings has put extra pressure on him and his failings have been even more exposed. Had their been a Hayden still around and Australia still in their winning ways, nobody would have questioned his position in the side as player and captain. Alas, the team sadly is average and England has vastly improved, make no mistake about that. And it surely hurts Australia when they lose in THE ASHES by an innings and more. Ponting should stay, perhaps at No 4 or 5. Australia should try out new guys in the top 3. Perhaps have Watson bat at No 3. Let Hughes and company open the innings. The Top 3 of Aus have to get tons of runs to get back to their winnings ways.

Posted by Harrycricplay on (December 30, 2010, 5:40 GMT)

"Either You Die A Hero Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"...How true...

Posted by XooX on (December 30, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

I hope Ian also enlightens us on who he thinks should replace Ponting. I hope he comes back from retirement and gets a thrashing that will shut him up once and for all.

Posted by Ray24 on (December 30, 2010, 5:25 GMT)

While Ponting has lost the Ashes (allowed England to retain em), I still feel he's the best man to lead Aus for the next 2-3 years. If Aus make too many changes, they might not recover for many years. Ponting brings the winning mentality to the team, he's won more test matches as a player than anyone in the history of the game. An once Aus start winning, they'll gain momentum. If anything, the team should be built around Ponting. Drop Clarke, Smith, Hughes, Siddle and maybe a few others. Try fresh blood. A captain needs the team to play for him - just like Ponting did for Waugh and Taylor before him. Ponting should drop down the order at 4 or maybe 5, like Lloyd and that will give him more time as the ball is older. Worst case - even if Ponting is stripped of the leadership, he should play as a batsman - he's better than almost everyone in the team - just going through a bad patch. I wish Ponting and Aus cricket well (and I am not Aussie), hopefully things will get better.

Posted by swervin on (December 30, 2010, 5:24 GMT)

ingrates - the only reason he is the first captain for a long time to lose three ashes series is that he is the only player good enough to last that long! - that is a stupid statistic to keep repeating - fact is that it is the other players who have let the team down over successive series (particularly clarke who has never scored runs when really needed whereas ponting has done it many times) - not just this one, i mean smith, hughes are the guys of the future but obviously there was not enough depth in the batting - now you go into sydney still one batsman short and no ponting and harris, a disaster...chappell could only dream of ponting's record as batsman and captain...doesn't matter how good a captain you are if you don;t have the players - there are a lot more valid criticisms of the selections than any captaincy decisions made by ponting in this series

Posted by Cowas on (December 30, 2010, 5:22 GMT)

Chappell's comments do not offer a solution. He only spell's out what is an existing problem and very evident has no clear solution. I've not liked Ponting as a captain or a player. I would even call him a cheat and a sore loser. As a cricket fan, I will say Ponting is a disgrace to the game. However as it stands, Austalia do not have a replacement for him in the very near future.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:15 GMT)

Chappel are you a sadist or jealous to criticize one like this especially when Ponting was a super star batsman alongwith tendulkar and lara and was the most successful captain of the decade

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:15 GMT)

Ian Chappell is an expert at kicking people when they are down. It doesn't take a cricketing genius or a statesman of the game to parrot the lines being heard on the street. Does anybody remember that in 2007 he was baying for the blood of Tendulkar and pushing for his retirement (see http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/287897.html). Thankfully we didn't listen to this self-proclaimed pundit (and Sanjay Manjrekar). I suspect that with little brother Greg leading the Oz selection, my friends down south will not be so lucky. What the Chappells could not do to India, they will do to Australia. Let the end begin!

Posted by Sajith1993 on (December 30, 2010, 5:14 GMT)

There is one more reason for the steep descent. Along with McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist and Hayden another big fella hung his boots for Australia. He is Mr Bucknor, yeah the very same Steve Bucknor who umpired most of the crucial matches involving Australia just because Simon Taufel happened to be an Australian and could not possibly do the duty in fixtures involving Australia. Bucknor had at least one decision favoring the Aussies in every single Test or One Day match that he officiated. It is a ahrd fact but true...

Posted by Pits76 on (December 30, 2010, 5:12 GMT)

ponting, the death bell is ringing for u... when people start praising a person who has been nothing short of a poor ambassador for the game, u know you are past ur use-by date.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 5:05 GMT)

Mr. Cricket is the right man to lead Australia at this point of time. Pup should remain the vice captain & can take over the captaincy from Huss may be after 2 years. (Assuming he decides to hang his boots after 2 years). The reason why I suggest this is because Pup is low on confidence at this point of time & would not be able to do justice if he's made the captain.

Posted by Percy_Fender on (December 30, 2010, 4:57 GMT)

Ricky Ponting should go on his own. Mike Hussey is the man who could lead Australia for at least a couple of years. They should bring in a lot of new players like Khwaja, Mackay,Marsh, and some bowlers who they took to India. Who knows, they could be a fine team yet again.

Posted by AashishK on (December 30, 2010, 4:50 GMT)

High Time to make Cameron White captain in all Three Formats , this bloke has got huge talent and experience with silent and cool mind , he can provide explosive batting when required , he can push the scoreboard ticking when wickets fall around , he can bowl too , perfect choice as a Captain , whereas Ponting can only win matches with his main weapon , getting into oppositions face with tongue wagging SLEDGING , he is no more a fear in opposition, he never showed support to players like dynamite symonds , Mr perfect Bracken , Accurate Stuart Clarke , the end is inevitable for ricky now.

Posted by Ari_Plymouth on (December 30, 2010, 4:48 GMT)

who are these chappell brothers to comment on anything? Both of you are old dudes who need to retire from any type of cricket commentary or coaching or advising immediately. Your comments only back-fires (e.g., sourav ganguly, sanchin tendulkar , laxman ..list just goes on.), please go away, bozos.

Posted by abhi.bill on (December 30, 2010, 4:47 GMT)

I will love to see Ian chappel eat his words again. Not very long ago the good for nothing Chappel brothers had written Sachin off, and look what happened. Same man had predicted 3-0 defeat for India in SA and look what has happened. I would love to see Chappel proved wrong again by his own countryman Ponting

Posted by suresh_sksj on (December 30, 2010, 4:41 GMT)

so the obvious has come, i expected this some days ago....he could have left of his own by anouncing his retirement some months ago....but some things take it's won turn over a period of time.....and Ricky will be remembered for his onfiled pranks with Alim Dhar.....as people's memories are struck to the last few days of a person, i still rememeber Steve Waugh being carried thru the stadium on his last day of test cricket, same memories of Glen, Gilly, Tubby, Test cricket a great leveler, some years ago the Same Ricky was considered the best, but look at Sachin....he was so sober and humble, he just went about his job clean and quietly.....Ricky should pickup a phone and call Sachin and take some tips....there is no harm in being humble, just leave the arrogance and ego....

Posted by bigwonder on (December 30, 2010, 4:34 GMT)

I wish Pointing continues as Australian Captain. He needs to go through the same agony and pain as other teams have when rebuilding their team. Pointing can be compared to spoiled little Stuart from England. Pointing has been lucky to lead the team with one of the best players in the world, but now we see the real Pointing without the great players behind him. Anyone can score big runs when you have great players in your team to back you up. I have no sympathy for Pointing.

Posted by Rahul_78 on (December 30, 2010, 4:34 GMT)

Knowing OZ tradition of grooming a potential candidate for future leading role then clarke should be next in line but and it is a big BUT, at the moment he cant seem to score a run to save his life. It ll be too much to ask of him to stir OZ out of this difficult time. Also his dressing room popularity has always been questioned in OZ media. Even though it will be against the tradition but OZ selectors will do well to appoint katich or cameron white to assign the role on short term 1 or 2 years basis just to let the dust settle in. Katich has always shown the passion and big heart in the past. With ponting their only world class batsmen playing freely in the team and supporting katich will be a good move. India had a success with anil kumble when he lead india on some tough tours and MS dhoni learned under him to lead a test side which is the sternest test for any skipper.

Posted by timz_Tigers08 on (December 30, 2010, 4:33 GMT)

dont forget if hussey was riding his luck secially ealry in his innings.but ponting didnt had the luxury.also watson was not able to convert his good starts into big ones......

Posted by CricketChat on (December 30, 2010, 4:31 GMT)

Recent losses are not entirely Ricky's fault even if his decline in batting is clear. Loss of many established players since '07 has been hurting Aussies. I think he can relinquish captaincy is a graceful manner rather than being pushed out. All said and done, he still has the best winning record both as a player and captain. I think Shane Watson would make a good captain as he is in his best batting form of life in Tests and also a reasonable bowler in all formats.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 4:29 GMT)

Ian himself was playing till he was 37. 14 centuries in 75 test matches with an average of just 42 is a very average record. Ponting has done extremely well for Australia and should not desert the team like Greg, Lillee and Marsh did in the 80s.Ponting will know when the time has come.

Posted by timz_Tigers08 on (December 30, 2010, 4:28 GMT)

extremely disappointed with Ian chappel's attitute towards ponting.I had great respect for for him but now i feel both chappell brothers are sycho.... is there only the capatin who needs to be blame????? what was michael clarke doing in the series,north,watson,katich,..n also bowlers like hilfen,harris, etc.... ponting cant bowl and the major weakness was their bowling we all know that .once the bowling clicked in 3rd test australia won.if u allow ur opposition to socre freely 500plus runs how come u blame ur captain

Posted by askids on (December 30, 2010, 4:25 GMT)

Yes. This is the same chappel who had asked Sachin to look at the mirror in 2007 and retire then!!! Its an insult to great players to be referred to by 'use by date'. He may be stubborn or even the most hated Aussie among other nations, but nobody can deny the fact that he is one of the all time greatest #3 batsman of his era.

Posted by Robdahl on (December 30, 2010, 4:24 GMT)

@ Ian Chappel : you'r not the one to decide and it is easier said than on the ground. Pointing has been out of form which is true for all the players in cricketing history and i am sure he'll be back in form in very near future. But regarding his captaincy, its not his fault even if there was Steve Waugh he might have found it hard to win with the players you have in your team. This is not the Australia which was a decade ago, but a new one with few old players. Hence, as i see it Ricky Pointing captaincy is still good with the standard of players he has with him. But sorry for Ricky, that his form problem has juxtaposed with the loses his team is having which seems like he is having double errors but rather its just his form., And Ian, let me remind you, you told the same about Sachin tendulkar after 2007 WC but look at him now and feel the same for Speaking without Thinking.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

Who ever are the good captains, they must well supported by the good batsman and bowlers. Also captain shall manage them effectively. All four greats, as mentioned Hyden, Gilchrist, Macgrath and Warne left, this shows how captain shall not be judged by his records but the resourses he had.

Posted by Faberlus on (December 30, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

Although i have little time for either Chappell brothers, whose self serving egos generally dictate their actions, in this case i think that Ian is correct. Ricky Ponting has had a very distinguished career as captain, but to be fair any plair that is decent would have faired as well with the team that he had at his disposal. He is not the tactician that Taylor was, not the people motivator that Waugh was, and to be honest he isn't the tough charachter that Border was. He is arguably one of the best number 3 batsmen of the modern game, but he should step aside as captain and maybe as Tendulkar did, reduce the ammount of cricket he plays. I think that he can find form again and have another 2-3 years of good middle order test batting in him.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 4:16 GMT)

why Chappell and others don't think far and help to make plan. They let it fail and now they keep guessing names from province players for captaincy, Remember not every one is Graeme smith and everyone is not lucky as Graeme Smith either… major issues with the team is batting consistency, lack of strike bowling options Ect. South Africa had bullets in the guns when Graeme Smith kick in but Australia need stronger players not new captain for now, they need to appoint a new vice captain, to groom with ponting, if ponting has to leave the game I think half of the top England and Indian players failed in several series should be retied by now. I still respect Atherton for helping KP with his moral while everyone wants him to be axed when early this year. Chappell can be productive as that.

Posted by Anup82 on (December 30, 2010, 4:14 GMT)

Sacking pointing now is not going to help since there seems to be no substitute at the point of time...even he is not contributing with bat, his experience will sure help. And rest 10 players in the team too have to rise up to the occassion. With retirement of the greats like Mcgrath, warne,Hayden,Gilly ausies were heading to a small crises... its a bad patch and i am sure they will ride over it. I see a similar situation for Indian test side when Lax, Dravid and Sach retire... especially in foreign conditions.....

Posted by Girish_Lathkar on (December 30, 2010, 4:13 GMT)

Yes..!!! Everyone has to call it a day. It happens with everyone like Brian Lara, Sourav Ganguly and many other players and so is Ponting. Regrets for one of the great player in a cricket history. Quite right with Ian Chappell he has to resign before he pushed. I personally a great follower of Ricky after Sacchin Tendulkar. If don't remain as Captain then he doesn't deserve place in the Test Team either. Batting at No.4 or No.5 is foolish option for Ponting. All marks and hats off to all England players for regaining Ashes... Regarding the captaincy, Ponting seems to be a very good option as a Captain provided he has to improve his form. Michel Hussey is too old and Shane Watson is inexperienced to handle Captaincy and no question about Michel Clarke as someone says in comment he puts himself out of race by poor form and batting. Dying to see Ricky full fit again and leading the side in World Cup.. Love to See India v/s Australia at Mumbai in the finals...of course support will be the

Posted by Lazybones_2011 on (December 30, 2010, 4:12 GMT)

Changing the captain is not going to change much. Ricky is definitely the most respected man in the team and the world cup is just months away. Finding a new captain at this point is not going to change anything for the team. The problem really is that Australia have too many batsman who are out of form. If you fix that everything else can fall in place.

I would say back Ricky, give him time and space to find his form. Chop out other out of form players including Clarke. Bring in 2 new batsmen and see how things work in the next test.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 4:11 GMT)

Thanks Chappell for the reminder of Ricky Ponting's Test Exist, in my opinion Chappell's comments are emotional as much as every Australian fan feels it. But there is something more than the emotional strings here Ricky is brave man he fight is heart out, yea everyone have bad patch of form and luck in some point of time… in world cricket cricketers don't feel the captaincy as a honour anymore, Tendulkar, Lara, Gayle, Mahela, Peterson, Collingwood even the Bangladesh and Zimbabwe players, first thing in poor form come giving up the captaincy. Ricky never want to give up he was given limited resources, OK Chappell is always good in commentary box, beside that he never thought of Cricket Australia, it's very easy to have a cup of coffee and make comments. Australia never had a proper vice captain or plan "B" for this change, cricket Australia knew England is strong and they showed though in tour match itself,

Posted by muski on (December 30, 2010, 4:10 GMT)

Chappell comment's on issues without suggesting solutions. He is very good at that. Bringing in Clarke as captain will ensure that Aussies will soon start competing with Bangladesh and West Indies as to which team is number one from the bottom. Its very surprising that the powers that be of Aussie cricket did not see the writing on this wall when all the greats left couple of years ago. They should have had plan B in place giving the fact that Clarke is not an automatic selection into the test team given his performance and the state of his back. Now probably they should do something like what the Proteas did after the Hansie episode. Smith was only 22 when he was made captain. However he was given considerable powers and was backed to the hilt. Similar kind of approach could be tried

Posted by shrikm on (December 30, 2010, 4:09 GMT)

With Mcgrath, Shane, Hayden, Gilchrist and Brett Lee gone, The new aus team will take time to perform the way they would like to and Ponting is not to blame for this.. only problem is his batting form which he needs to concentrate hard on and i think he should be given one more year as the team with which he is trying to win Ashes v/s what he had four years ago is not comparable in any ways.

Posted by Madhavan.Varun on (December 30, 2010, 4:09 GMT)

The Chappel brothers are idiots... Greg a couple of years ago... going by the same 'jump before you're being pushed' logic, called for Sachin Tendulkar's resignation... Ponting might have had a disasterous time offlate, but he's still one of Australia's best batsman... if not the best right now...

Posted by vedichitesh on (December 30, 2010, 4:06 GMT)

As a batsmen after Sachin i have always considered Lara and Ricky. Ricky is and was an arrogant person, he has not been a good cricketer forget being a good captain. Well if you give Magrath, Warne , Hayden, Gilchrist to any captain he will surely win. Well leadership was tested when they fab 4 retired ..... Ricky flopped as a Captain. He is a shame to cricket and a case study what a captain should not do.... (his statements and his arguing with the umpire)...... Well now that he is losing we come to see his true arrogant self which was hidden as Australia was winning before.... Well he should not resign he should be sacked...... Many have failed and we feel sad.... but when an arrogant person fails we feel good.... this is what has happened now.....

Posted by Ayo4Yayo on (December 30, 2010, 4:06 GMT)

Ponting was never a great captain or a great player. Only Warne, McGrath, GilChrist, and Hayden won him games. Withouth them his real weakness started to float and show up. And he was only good in the past because of the great players he had, not because he was a good player. Those players took pressure off Ponting and allowed him to bat and run team easily. Imagine if you're in the opposition team and had to face a team with warne, mcgrath, gilChrist, and Hayden. Ofcourse theres a fear of facing them but that fear was created by those players and not through pontings captaincy. And with that fear, opposition team faltered and make ponting look as if he was a great captain. Best captain that I could think of would be Dhoni and I think he will be a very successful captain, a real gem. Prime example of his great captaincy is the win of Twenty20 World Cup 2007.

Posted by dukesD on (December 30, 2010, 3:59 GMT)

to-kevindon

cricket fans never respected ponting, even as a player or as a captain. Australian cricket became respecful with captains like Chappel , Steve Waugh and players like Gilchrist, Warne, McGrath, Hayden, symonds etc. But ponting never was famous. He was only famous as an arrogant , swallen headed player. Ponting only brought disgrace and unpleasent feeling to fans around the world. Saying Australians must be greatful for ponting is an insult to such great players and captains.

Posted by Lakshs on (December 30, 2010, 3:52 GMT)

I am not a great fan of the Aussie Cricket team or some of the high-handed attitude that Ponting and some of his colleagues have displayed at times.

Coming to cricket and Ponting, there is no denying the fact that Ponting is a truly star batsman of all time and definitely a great batsman of the modern era. Give the great man to decide on his time and stage to move out of test cricket. He has earned this previlege through his superb performances over a long period of time. Slump in performance happens to the very best people as well.

Posted by landl47 on (December 30, 2010, 3:43 GMT)

Ian Chappell is only stating the obvious when he says that Ponting has to leave or be removed. What's clear is that Australia needs to go back to basics, put a young side together and take the pain until they mature. There are some promising young bowlers about, although probably not ready for test cricket yet. There are one or two batsmen, though the cupboard doesn't look as well stocked; only Khawaja of the young players seems to be of real test match quality and he didn't fare well against England in the Australia A game. Tim Paine is a good keeper. Captain might be the most difficult area; Clarke has only known Ponting as a test captain and that's not a great example for him to follow. Although White is a notch below test class, I'd make him captain since he seems to handle the job well. Young players need a strong leader. Whatever, there are a few tough years for Australia ahead. Based on the resources of the two sides, I'd back England to hold the Ashes at least through 2014/15.

Posted by HamzaAftab on (December 30, 2010, 3:41 GMT)

I think this is the best time for Rick Ponting to resgin from Australain capitancy. he is one of best player in the wolrd.although Tendulaker is more then runs and pufromance in all formate but Tendulaker havent any big countribution in Inda big victory. on other hand Ponting has won the three world Cup fro Australia which is amzing..Pounting should move to heal up from broken finger and then get runs from domestic cricket. then he can come with more confidence if Australia wants to purforms well in wolrd Cup.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 3:34 GMT)

i dont lik ponting..... but he is a great player & 1 of the best captains in history of game..... so plz dont treat him lik this,,,,

Posted by aarpee2 on (December 30, 2010, 3:20 GMT)

The witchhunt for a scapegoat is on.Australia was simply outplayed in all department by a better side.The current Aussie team with the captain woefully out of form and the rest of the unit not playing as a team.Having lost a galaxy of match winners from the ranks due to retirements, the replacements have not been able to stand up and be counted.This is a moment for introspection for Cricket Australia to understand that they are neither the most feared or respected team any more.Kneejerk reactions will only add to the problem.The batting with exception Of Hussey in this series is inconsistent and the bowling not performing as a unit.If the choice is CLarke for the 5th test then the much acclaimed policy of picking the best team and then the Captain from the squad is under question. Watson,Hussey or Haddin offer better options

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 3:17 GMT)

SHANE WATSON should be the man for the job like SA did to Smith few years ago, should groom this allrounder to be a good captain.

Posted by righthandbat on (December 30, 2010, 3:16 GMT)

If Australia have taken the bold move to drop Ponting, they should probably drop Hussey as well, after the SCG test. Watson should be made to drop down the order to number seven for this game and bowl far more overs. Maddinson given a test debut to open with Katich, Khawaja at three, Hussey (vice-captain) at four, Clarke (captain) at five, Haddin (six), Watson (seven). Hauritz should be returned at eight, with Siddle at nine. Cameron should get a call-up at ten to provide hostile pace and SR Clark returned for one final test at the SCG at eleven to provide line and length.

Thoughts?

Posted by ArpitGandhi on (December 30, 2010, 3:14 GMT)

It's a building stage for Aus and if they kick Ricky out, it will just get harder for them. Instead of pressuring him with these type of threats, they should support him. Get rid of clarke and get a better #6. Smith and North are hopeless.

Posted by cricPassion2009 on (December 30, 2010, 3:11 GMT)

As a batsman, Ponting is not yet finished. He needs to step out of captaincy though, as 3 Ashes losses doesn't look good, and a few other losses doesn't look good. Most importantly, the invincible image of Australian cricket has taken a beating and this will take a long time to mend.

Mr Ian, please cool down ! Loss of form happened to few earlier too e.g. Mark Taylor. Atleast Ponting is not scoring ducks. He's still scoring 10s and 20s.

Posted by moinilyasneral on (December 30, 2010, 3:06 GMT)

Been saying for some time ricky should leave cricket..period..batting atrociously, captaining worse and now ranting in the middle..Madugalle, the pussy, should have used an iron fist and suspended him for 3 tests, a "white" referee would have for sub continenters..now we read ricky has been"fingered" out of Sydney, true(?) or been pushed out..aus has declined a lot and will fall further with greg as coach(india did)..@MERVO you defending "poor" ricky for lost 4 tosses in a row is rubbish as one has to ask why India is still doing so well after Dhoni has lost umpteen in a row and @BIGGUS you also seem to forget that the most successful captain in cricket today is a keeper(Dhoni,for the uninitiated).I agree ian has this habit of running with the hares and hunting with the hounds and sways like a palm tree in the breeze, but this time i fully agree that ricky SHOULD QUIT for good !!!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 3:06 GMT)

Stats don't tell the complete tale. The marked contrast in Ponting's success rate before and after Warne and co. retired is a glaring gap. A leader shd be able to whip out the innate talent within his team. Allan Border did it and so did Mark Taylor. Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting just presided over such self starting stars. Atleast Steve Waugh fought with tigerish resolve when his team was in trouble but Ponting crumbled under pressure. His inability to forge a team of successors to the golden generation was his biggest failure. If this Ashes had gone as close as the Durban Test we cannot be complaining about his leadership but that was not to be. Losing 3 out of 4 Ashes is definitely pathetic. To maintain Ponting is still the best captain is to preempt the search for and grooming a successor. To mix up Ricky the outstanding batsman and Ponting the middling skipper is not clear headed thinking. Unfortunately that Clarke isn't stepping up to the plate is a tragedy for aussie cricket.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 3:06 GMT)

It is a Lesson for other teams like India also,because if sachin dravid and laxman retire means there will be a huge hole left in this Indian team ,so they have to find immediate replacement,in their presence and groove them.Develop the team,not to be left as australia,just struggling to build their team.So selectors of India Has To awake quickly as possible,and select the possible strong players for world cup and in near future.

Posted by harshalb on (December 30, 2010, 2:56 GMT)

in 2007 this guy chapell had written off sacin and asked him to look in the mirror and retire. he is making the same mistake now. ponting will come back stronger. as for chapell, i think he and his brother are past their sell by dates and should retire from coaching and peddling premature opinions.

Posted by kevindon on (December 30, 2010, 2:38 GMT)

Sport is truly cyclical. One can hardly believe what we are seeing of Australia at this time.I recalled the tearful concession of Kim Hughes many years ago. It caused me to shed a tear in solidarity. Ricky is one of my favorite captains and I disagree with anyone even insinuating that he has a questionable attitude. Australians should be grateful for having such an ambassador in the last decade. Because of him, many people the world over has grown to admire the baggy greens.Something appears questionable in CA, however. The sudden resignations of your "winninges"t men over the past five years give rise to more questions than answers. Ricky, tough luck, but I will always remember your professionalism. I would like to lead my own corporation with that positive mental attitude. I SALUTE YOU.

Posted by Micgyver on (December 30, 2010, 2:38 GMT)

Chappell does not mention who he thinks will succeed.I can't imagine or even fathom if Clarke is given the captaincy,his form has been as bad as Punters,he DOES'NT deserve it!I think the captaincy credentials only lie with 1 man...Brad Haddin.However are we asking too much of him?

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 2:27 GMT)

Ponting has been one of the best captain's in cricket's history, but like all epics he has to give in and should do it in a manner befitting his stature. As regards to Australia, they will need some one like an Allan Border and bulid a team over the next 4 years that will challenge India and South Africa... So Aussie fans brace up for tough couple of years as other countries will improve their records against you.

Posted by Nerk on (December 30, 2010, 2:17 GMT)

One has to admire Ponting, he has been an outstanding cricketer for Australia. Cameron White or George Bailey should be brought into the team, both are good attacking cricketers, and born leaders. For the time being, however, Katich should be made captain. He has been Australia's most consistant cricketer over the last couple of years and has a good cricketing brain. This will give a couple of new bods the chance to adjust to test cricket before gaining the ultimate honour.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 2:08 GMT)

The English team has an excellent bowling attack, but it is not one for all conditions. They do not have the bowlers who can do well in the conditions prevailing in the sub-continent! Swanncan be a good off-spinner, but he is at best as good as Sehwag as a part-time off-spinner is! Case in point is Swann's performance in India in the last series against India. Yes, in conditions that suit pace and swing, England is a huge threat and their batting line-up is perhaps the best with Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pietersen, and Bell. Although Colingwood has been out of form, he is good against spin and Prior is an excellent attacking batsman. Swann again is no mug with the bat. All in all, English team perhaps has it in them to be the number 1 Test side and is a huge threat to India's claim to that spot. The real test for England will be to beat India in India! Similarly, India may struggle against England in England!

Posted by SnowSnake on (December 30, 2010, 2:01 GMT)

I can fully understand Chappell's frustration. If Ponting was an employee in a company, he would have been fired a long time ago for poor performance. It is surprising to see that despite losing the Ashes, he was not planning on resigning or retiring. CA is left with too few options. I hope he does the right thing. It will be sad to see such a great batsman to be pushed out.

Posted by I.Beecken on (December 30, 2010, 1:54 GMT)

This downturn in the Australian cricket team was always going to come, and I am stunned that people see the current failures as a surprise, unfortunately for Ponting he just happened to be the one leading the team at the time. That being said I have been saying privately for many many months that it is time for a MAJOR shake up not just in the team selection but right through from the selectors to the guy who clean up after the team. I dont have a clue who the captain should be but it needs to be another Alan Border, Chappel type captain, no nonsense tough and ruthless. Its time to put away the kid gloves if we are to be taken seriously again on the world stage and tough descisions need to be made in order for that to happen. I begrudge Ponting nothing & I dont blame him for the curret demise in Australian cricket.

Posted by Talubar on (December 30, 2010, 1:49 GMT)

It's fine to say sack Ponting, but who are you going to replace him with? Clarke seems equivocal about the job and his own position in the team is far from solid after this series, nor do his performances as captain in T20s inspire confidence in his tactical abilities. The few players already in the team that are long term prospects seem to lack the qualities required for leadership. Until someone better comes along I think Australia are stuck with him. PS Is there a way to automatically delete posts that refer to the current Australian captain as Ricky POINTING? ;-)

Posted by Vroomfondel on (December 30, 2010, 1:45 GMT)

Oh how quick the Aussies are to turn on their own! Clarke is rubbish as captain. His form is about as bad as Punter's. Siddle needs to be kept on a leash. Whoever takes Pontings place - assuming he is replaced - will receive the "kiss of death". With the exception of Haddin & Hussey, the whole batting line-up is dodgy. Watson can't convert to centuries ( a real problem for an opener). Aside from Siddle, which of the Aussie bowlers has shown any consistency? For any team to rebuild effectively they need a core of experienced players - hopefully in form. Nobody (with the exception of Hussey, Haddin and Siddle) has any. CA has mismanaged the development of younger players. This situation was inevitable. Ponting is not the problem, CA is. You can't ask the captain to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 1:41 GMT)

If Ponting had sat out the MCG test because of Injury, I am sure Australia would still be in contention for the Ashes. His ego got good of him. He had his run. Iam Chappel is right, if he does not resign as captain, he should be pushed out and pushed right out of the team. He is damaging the psyche of the Australian Cricket and the Nation as whole.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 1:39 GMT)

Ponting should step down and the captaincy should go to Cameron White. Rebuild with at least 6 or 7 changes from the MCG test for the Sri Lankan series in August. Keep Ponting in the side to bat 5 or 6. Clarke should go, Hussey retire despite his good current form. Johnson has to go as well. Hughes cant bat for more than a session. Keep Haddin in the team to bat 6 and bring Payne in as White's vice captain and keeper. Shaun Marsh who is averaging over 70 in the sheffield shield this year needs to come in, George from SA bring him in as well as a new young bowler. Spin is either Kreja or O'Keefe from NSW. Do it now or risk not having the Ashes for 3 or 4 more series!

Posted by PlayingItStraight on (December 30, 2010, 1:34 GMT)

Ricky Ponting should retire as test captain after the Sydney test and from all international cricket after the World Cup. He has been a great player but Chappelli is right that he needs to jump rather than be pushed out. That would leave the selectors until August next year to decide on a new test captain, which on current form, ability & fitness should NOT be Michael Clarke. Many people mention Cameron White as a candidate, more for his captaincy skills but it is worth bearing in mind he has a first class batting average of 42, so he would be a capable number 6 batsman who can bowl a bit if required. If White is going to be the man to go forward with then he needs to play in Sydney, probably at the expense of Michael Clarke, who is so horribly out of form he needs some time playing for NSW to get his confidence back. At the moment Australia need a good captain more than trying to make a captain out of the current test XI, so White could be the man.

Posted by Biggus on (December 30, 2010, 1:33 GMT)

@captainbarebum-I'm inclined to agree with both your posts here and I got a bit of a giggle about the Grandpa driving analogy. It does seem rather apt. Ponting's problem as a captain, apart from the retirement of many fine players, has always seemed to me to be a certain lack of imagination, coupled with a personality disinclined to introspection or a quest for self knowledge. Perhaps it's all the same thing. He has always seemed a rather reactive leader to me and is always shutting the gate after the horse has bolted, as opposed to say, Mark Taylor or Ian Chappell who by contrast were apparently able to anticipate, or even better, create chances proactively. When banging his head against a wall doesn't work Ricky's only idea seems to be to bang harder, and he appears to take constructive criticism as a personal attack, which has limited his ability to grow in the role. @5wombats-I'm inclined to agree that Ricky will not resign willingly unless he is told "jump or we'll push you."

Posted by sammykent on (December 30, 2010, 1:28 GMT)

So if Ponting is out of form and needs to hand over the reigns who does he give them to? Clarke is not exactly going well and I am not so sure he is very respected amongst the team. It seems that the close knit team environment, that has been the root of Australia's success, is now a big issue. Bowlers are chopped and changed and batsmen retain their spots despite terrible form. Why did North play at all in the Ashes? Why are Ponting and Clarke immune to the chopping block?

Posted by   on (December 30, 2010, 1:22 GMT)

I hate ponting's on-field behaviour. i want ponting to retire. But, we have to accept the fact that he is one of the exceptional batsman cricket has seen. all say that ponting has to be sacked from captaincy and retire from cricket. But, i don't see anyone who can replace ponting as batsman and also anyone who can captain this australian side. unless u find a replacement for ponting both as a player and as captain, i don see a point y he should not continue as a captain. i accept ponting has lost the ashes thrice. but,u gotta keep in mind that this is a collective failure. no point in making ponting the scape goat. remember, a captain is only as good as the team.

Posted by balajik1968 on (December 30, 2010, 1:22 GMT)

Chappell is right about Ponting, but where is the replacement? Maybe Hussey or Haddin. But they may have at the most 1-2 years at the job. Clarke hasn't stepped up. By the time Ricky Ponting became captain, he was showing himself to be worthy of promotion, something that can't be said of Clarke. Clarke hasn't really pushed his case with standout performances with the bat. Australia needs to seriously rebuild. I personally feel that Tim Paine should get into the team as a batsman. He showed good attitude in India, which is just as important as talent. He could also relieve Haddin of the gloves if he is made captain. As for Ponting, he looks a broken man. Maybe he should quit the captaincy after the World Cup and concentrate on his batting. But I don't see Australia allowing an ex-captain in the team.

Posted by Sanoop_r on (December 30, 2010, 1:05 GMT)

I think the only eligible player to be made captain is Mr. Hussey. But there is a huge risk to be taken here... I sure hope it does not affect his batting... He is kinda old to be made captain, but I can see Hussey play even at 40. The bloke is so so fit !!! The next option could be Watson... Come on CA, pop Hussey the question... Clarke has pushed himself out of the question...

Posted by Rahulbose on (December 30, 2010, 0:56 GMT)

Time for Aus to rebuild their side and sacking Ponting as the Captain is the first step. He probably still makes the side as No 3 batsmen, but their also he will have to start producing the runs soon. And surely they can find a half decent spinner somewhere in Aus.

Posted by look_nah on (December 30, 2010, 0:18 GMT)

All due respect to Ian Chappell but, has he sorted out for himself, Mr. Ponting and for CA who is the next person capable of doing the job. Michael Clarke is in a rot himself and had he shown readiness for the position CA would not have carried-on with Mr. Ponting until now.

We can all stomp on a fella when he is down but Mr. Ponting alone is not CA's problem. The entire line-up stinks top through bottom. Yes... Ponting did not perform with the bat but what happened to the others getting bowled out for 98 runs in such an important match?

Posted by Merlotius on (December 30, 2010, 0:09 GMT)

I reckon Chappelli is spot on. I am a great Ponting fan but it is time to rebuild. Let Ricky have a great farewell test at the SCG and retire after the World Cup. But it shouldn't stop with Ricky. It's time to really look at the team and the pool of young talent around the country and put together a squad with the best possible potential. Short term pain for long term gain. The Geelong Football Club, under Mark Thompson, showed how it's done. Sport is cyclical. We've had a fantastic run and have been spoiled by the success of an exceptional cricket team for longer than you'd usually expect. We should appreciate what the players of the last 20 years have given us, thank them and move on.

Posted by 5wombats on (December 30, 2010, 0:07 GMT)

As captain Ponting has been the kiss of death for Australia. He is chiefly responsible for his teams demise; The "Big Man" he's put the wrong attitudes into his players heads. Ponting always had bags of skill and self-belief; but also a bad attitude; "I'm always right, I always back myself AND all I have to do is turn up in order to beat you". He's put this attitude into the heads of players who don't have the skills and self-belief to back it up. Big mistake. Unable to cope - they lose, but when they lose Ponting's hubris means they don't learn from the experience. Error strewn Ponting the captain has led them into losing positions. He never learned from his mistakes - so he kept make the same ones. He hasn't nurtured new talent, eg; Hauritz - where is he? He hasn't grown existing talent, eg; Clarke = ruined, Johnson = still hopelessly inconsistent, Siddle = nasty/bad sport, Bollinger = gone, etc. Ponting is built stubborn - he won't step down. This Tall Poppy will have to be pushed.

Posted by Abaa on (December 30, 2010, 0:01 GMT)

And to think that some time ago you thought Ponting was a better captain than Waugh!

Posted by aby_prasad on (December 29, 2010, 23:59 GMT)

This is the same person who said tendulkar should retire after 2003 world cup.Dont listen to him ponting!or Aussie fans or other fans who love cricketing legends like Ponting. 'has passed his 'use by' date it seems, how dare he says that and who the hell is he to pass comments on greats like ponting and sachin who along with bradman are almost like the holy trinity of batting !People like Ian chappell just keep changing their opinions as per the 'current situation' and when ponting and tendulkar is back with a bang, they change their opinions shamelessly! Just do what all great batsman do.Answer these clowns with your bat Ponting!

Posted by Kh.Hassan on (December 29, 2010, 23:56 GMT)

ponting SHOULD leave nw!! there is no warne, hayde, mcgrath, lee or gilcrist in the team he is leading.

Posted by   on (December 29, 2010, 23:56 GMT)

I would like Cameron White to take over as captain but Ponting to be retained in the team, if possible, for all 3 formats.

Posted by corpusninja on (December 29, 2010, 23:46 GMT)

Nothing more to say apart from saying I completely agree with Chappell (for once).

Posted by   on (December 29, 2010, 23:45 GMT)

I agree with Ian ,pointing should retire so that he could extend his career by a year or so and this would also give the younger captain much needed support on field.I think pointing was lucky that he played with great playes in the initial period of his captainship but true test of leadership comes when you are short of resources ,pointing failed on this count.

Posted by captainbarebum on (December 29, 2010, 23:42 GMT)

Continuing, Punter's earlier strength, his tough, never-quit will, is now his weakness--turning into selfish stubbornness in the face of his increasingly obvious limitations. INSISTING that he play at MCG with broken finger is an example. It's not about success for the team but for Ponting alone. He continually has to prove a point. Well, now the team is suffering & losing, largely because of it. Because of RP's earlier successes (for which we admire & thank him as fans) we must now allow him continuing privileges? England are a very good team, no doubt, & deserved to retain the Ashes, but Aus lost badly in lead-up series to Pakistan, India, & to Sri Lanka AT HOME. Maybe I'm wrong but the single biggest factor in this losing run is the combination of Punter's reign as captain and his performance at no.3, so often when the team needed him to stay in and settle shaky situations. Salvage some respect, mate, & step down on your own with grace & humility. Please. You did great. Thanks.

Posted by Mervo on (December 29, 2010, 23:40 GMT)

Ok this guy is the most successful captain of all time, has 39 centuries (second after Tendulkar) and a Test average of 54 runs, and we want to blame and sack him? If they do, it is only a way to take the heat off the selectors for their terrible performance this summer. Also sack Clarke and Hughes and Smith!

Ponting deserves the respect of being able to play out this series as captain. He did not lose the Ashes all by himself. Poor selections, poorer coaching for our conditions, losing 4 tosses (the last crucial) and poor form by most players did that. Also the "Empire Team" that England assembled had something to do with it. Ponting as a scapegoat may make few people happy however.

Posted by Boundsy0868 on (December 29, 2010, 23:40 GMT)

I agree whole-heartedly with Chappell. Ponting needs to make this decision himself and not wait to get pushed out, which would be a very sad ending for Punter, our most successful captain (albeit not the best captain, which sounds strange when you consider his success...). Ponting needs to have one last dig as captain in Sydney to end the series, and hopefully win his 100th game to draw the series (at least it means the Poms did not "beat us" as such). To have a new captain for Sydney would create too much disharmony and distraction for the team. The decision on a new captain should be made after the series...but who will it be is not an easy one, as Clarke is not the successor everyone hoped he would be.

Posted by   on (December 29, 2010, 23:40 GMT)

This is the worst thing about the world of cricket. Great players seldom see great ends. Cronje, Wasim Akram, Azhar ud Din, Sourav, Waqar Younis are the examples. For different reasons I personally do not admire Ponting much but I beleive that a player of his stature be he of any country, surely deserves a better end!

Posted by   on (December 29, 2010, 23:36 GMT)

This is the time for Ponting to resign from his Test career

Posted by Biggus on (December 29, 2010, 23:28 GMT)

I agree that it's time for Ricky to give up the test captaincy, but who is to replace him? Those suggesting Cameron White are nuts. He may get the one-day captaincy in due course but I can't see him as a test player. So it leaves I guess Hussey or Brad Haddin, as Clark doesn't do much for me and may soon be struggling for a place in the side. Keepers have enough to do without having to captain a side in my opinion and I'm not sure Mike Hussey is the right guy either. No sane person would dispute his talent or commitment, I'm just not sure he's an assertive enough fellow and his age would make it very much a caretaker's position. I'm not surprised than Ian has neglected to name a successor in this article. Well, we have until August to decide this one.

Posted by captainbarebum on (December 29, 2010, 23:22 GMT)

It's such a sticky wicket, isn't it? Like, when do you step in & demand the car keys from Grandpa when it's clear his abilities to drive are declining gradually. Grandpa INSISTS his skills are still there but it's increasingly obvious to everyone else they are waning. As no.3 bat, RP has shown us over the last year he is NOT up to snuff. It's not a 'slump.' His reflexes & reaction time are slowing--obvious when you see how he usually gets out these days--nicks to slips off back foot, gloving down leg side to wk, easy pop-ups to mid-on & square leg off short balls (which he used to pull & hook to the boundary every time). His batting is sub-par, especially for a no.3 (most crucial spot in order), so his cool as captain is rattled too. His rant with the umps was shocking--a man no longer in control. You can only lead by example. CHANGE sorely needed now--you don't keep driving on a flat tyre, hoping it will re-inflate. Chappell is dead right. Listen up, Ricky! From a hopeful Aussie here.

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