Australia v England, 3rd ODI, Sydney January 19, 2014

Australia stroll to series win

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Video report: No one knows why England still can't win a game

Australia 3 for 244 (Marsh 71*, Warner 71) beat England 9 for 243 (Morgan 54, Coulter-Nile 3-47) by 7 wickets
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As Brad Haddin observed the day before this match, winning is a habit and so is losing. On the evidence of an SCG contest that ended with Australia wrapping up their second consecutive ODI series victory over England in the minimum three matches, the hosts' predilection for the former is matched by their visitors' weakness for the latter.

Though less dramatic and perhaps less demoralising than James Faulkner's Gabba heist had been, this defeat underlined England's rut and Australia's peak as well as any of the seven previous matches on the tour. Alastair Cook's side won the toss on a pitch favouring the side batting first and made a swift start, yet found themselves fatally slowed as much by their own lack of conviction as Australia's neat bowling and high class fielding.

Australia's chase was not quite perfect, as no batsman made a hundred and wickets were lost to loose strokes, but the belief surging through the team was demonstrated by the jaunty run rate pursued throughout, and best exemplified by the sight of David Warner swinging a six down the ground the over after Aaron Finch's dismissal playing a similarly full-blooded stroke.

Warner perished when a century beckoned, but Shaun Marsh, Michael Clarke and Haddin had little trouble galloping to victory. They did so with a gaping 10 overs to spare, and could look proudly upon the fact they had done so without having any of Mitchell Johnson, George Bailey or Clint McKay in their XI.

The only moment of unease arrived in late afternoon when Eoin Morgan's lone English rearguard was terminated. His dismissal to a low return catch by Daniel Christian required a replay for confirmation after Morgan stood his ground, provoking an angry response from Clarke.

England's innings was otherwise characterised by a failure to convert starts into substantial scores, due in part to another exceptional fielding exhibition by Clarke's men. Glenn Maxwell took a sharp catch at point to end Cook's fluent 35, while Warner's run out of Ian Bell and Clarke's own catch to remove a becalmed Ben Stokes were truly outstanding.

Xavier Doherty, Nathan Coulter-Nile, and Maxwell all delivered useful spells, though it was more of a struggle for James Pattinson in his first international appearance since last year's Lord's Test. Straining for effect but lacking rhythm, his six overs cost 41.

Australia's pursuit began with a lengthy delay while a sight screen issue was addressed, before Warner avoided being run out without facing a ball when Ravi Bopara's throw missed the stumps while the opener was still well short of his ground, having been called through for a swift single by Finch. This hiccup did not prevent the score from mounting quickly, as Warner in particular found ideal timing for the slowish pitch.

Finch was no less proactive, but his tendency to drive balls at a catchable height was to cost him once more, Bopara claiming the chance at cover. Warner was not perturbed in the slightest by the wicket, crashing Tim Bresnan over long off for six the very next over, and proceeding on his merry way at a pace that quickly shrank the target.

Marsh thus had time to get established, and their stand reaped a swift 78 before Warner shelled to cover while trying to repeat a boundary from the previous ball. Clarke kept the rate ticking at well above the requirement, gliding to a breezy 34 that was ended by perhaps the ball of the night - a Bopara inducker that perforated the captain's attempted drive.

Haddin gained a promotion in the order through the injury-enforced absence of Bailey, and delighted the healthy and hearty crowd of 37,823 by closing in on the target with a series of brazen blows. Marsh, building confidence with every run, applied the final touch with a pleasant flick over midwicket.

Cook had played with hitherto unseen freedom, even striking his first six of the tour, but his dismissal with the total at 50 in the ninth over allowed Clarke to exert greater pressure and limit the flow of runs. The over before his dismissal Cook had been given lbw, playing across a skidder from Doherty, who had been introduced early by Clarke. But his review showed the ball to be skimming over the top of the stumps.

Bell's innings also promised much, but was ended by a stupendous direct hit from Warner, who threw the stumps down square of the wicket and halfway to the boundary. Stokes, promoted to No. 3, struggled in his new position, scratching his way to 15 without a boundary before perishing to a quite superb catch from Clarke, diving low to his right at square leg to intercept a flat and well-struck sweep shot.

Gary Ballance and Bopara also made starts, before each erred slightly in their choice of stroke to be snapped up in the field. Coulter-Nile, who bowled tidily for his three wickets, coaxed Ballance to slice an airy cut shot to deep point, while Faulkner tempted Bopara into edging behind as he tried to glide the ball to third man.

Morgan was left to pick up the pieces, striking a pair of compelling sixes over cover and down the ground before his miscalculation against Christian. When he dived to claim a return catch from a front edge centimetres from the turf Morgan stood his ground, resulting in an angry, finger-pointing confrontation involving Clarke and Jos Buttler.

Umpires Simon Fry and Ranmore Martinesz moved between the pair to end the argument, after which time Morgan was given out upon consultation of replays to confirm Christian's catch. In the opening match of the series Warner had walked for a low catch behind by Buttler, only to be recalled when the third umpire Kumar Dharmasena judged the ball to have bounced.

While Tim Bresnan lifted the total at the finish, helping himself to a pair of sixes in Christian's final over, 243 looked inadequate. Like so much that England have produced on this tour, it would prove to be nowhere near enough.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • POSTED BY GeminiAwan on | January 22, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    After whitewash in tests, it's looking like a whitewash in ODI's as well....

    what about the T20's ?

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | January 20, 2014, 17:24 GMT

    @JG as I said in my previous comment "I'd like a look at Briggs". That's why i'd play him. Also Tredwell was poor at home, but I admit he came back nicely yesterday. As I all said the nature of the squad means that I'd pick Bopara to bowl. I agree perhaps I'm being harsh on Bresnan, but I just don't rate him- since his injury he has become an innocuous bowler, and although he batted well, I've always felt his batting has been overrated. Perhaps picking Stokes over Bresnan is just me picking favourites (and the same with Briggs over Tredwell)

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 20, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Marsh/Warner is clearly the best opening partnership in ODI's for Australia. Fire power and stability and surprisingly, consistency.

  • POSTED BY ModernUmpiresPlz on | January 20, 2014, 11:59 GMT

    @SLslider Clearly you lack knowledge. Australia's batsmen play best when on fast, bouncy tracks where the ball comes onto the bat. Hence the failure in England on the slow turners they produced for us, and our general failure in the sub continent, but unlike your lot we go just fine in SA. You might want to check the history of Australia in SA, even with the terrible team we were fielding a couple of years back we went well in SA. Australia are not SL or India, we don't fail miserably just because the bowling is quick and the wickets are loaded with pace and bounce and the ball nips a little bit off the pitch. It's late swing and quality spin that we suck against, and SA only has half of that equation in Steyn.

    I'm not saying Australia are going to win the series over there, but if you think a whitewash is the only result possible you are absolutely mistaken. SA do well in Aus, and Aus do well in SA, we prepare the same kinds of wickets and both teams play well in either country.

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | January 20, 2014, 10:54 GMT

    @jb633 - glad you have settled down a bit now after the Gabba :)

    You are clearly missing KP, Anderson & out of form Finn + Swanny - I know Swann retired, but by his comms (re: bowling 30/40 overs) he could have continued playing ODI's as he is a good bowler & outstanding fielder & handy batter. Trott is also absent & with his average @51 would make a welcomed return to the squad - hear he is coming along nicely atm so hopefully ready for your summer...

    PS: xtrafalgarx isn't an Aussie, just follows my team for some reason?...

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 20, 2014, 10:23 GMT

    @Jono Makim - I am really happy that Finch was selected - his form warranted it. Averaging 30 is not bad, but often in averaging 30 - you get 4 poor scores before a good one. Yes the good one will probably win you a match - but what about the other innings? He has an ave of 33 after 21 games with a S/R of over 90, Haddin's ave as an opener is the same, with a S/R of 82. I think it is Faulkner v Finch, I want to see my top 4 averaging around 40, unless they are an allrounder - which effectively Haddin is. Bear in mind - I am excited about watching Finch tee-off, & would like him to succeed. @PrasPunter on (January 20, 2014, 8:15 GMT) - yeah, I wonder what he would be like against a Kemar Roach or Dale Steyn? There must be a reason why his FC average blows. @Shaggy076 on (January 20, 2014, 9:20 GMT) - I was with you until you said Warner & Marsh - ANYBODY but Marsh!!!!!!! If Marsh was the other option - Finch is a no-brainer in my books - I have ZERO confidence in Marsh!

  • POSTED BY SLslider on | January 20, 2014, 9:41 GMT

    It's funny how AUS fans are talking so much after winning just one series at their home. LOL. They have lost all their matches away from AUS in last 1 year or so and will also get whitewashed in SA. Nor do they have a single classy batsman like Sanga and Mahela, neither they have a spinner with the quality of Herath. If AUS can draw a single test match in SA it will be an achievement for them. Steyn,Phil and Morkel will have AUS overrate batsmen for breakfast. LOL. Some less than 50 scores coming up people.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 20, 2014, 9:20 GMT

    Merry; I agree with you not completely sold. I know there will be games Finch wins. But to think we could be undefeated in a world cup going into a quarter final and both Finch and Warner fail in that game and you lose. Finch can and will win games but something inside me tellsvme we would be safer and have a higher winning percentage with Warner and Marsh opening.

  • POSTED BY on | January 20, 2014, 8:46 GMT

    @Meety, I disagree on Finch, I don't care if he only averages 30, it's all about the strike rate. He and Davey throw the opposition bowlers into disarray every innings. Just where do you bowl at them? Finch has also shown over the last two or three years that he goes on with it in domestic 50 over cricket and he's carried that on into the international arena, if he bats through the better part of the innings the opposition is more than likely out of the game. Yes, he can look absolutely woeful but he gets the job done admirably. I have a sneaking suspicion our old mate Hammond is now frequenting these pages as Plumridge!

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | January 20, 2014, 8:15 GMT

    @Meety, exactly my point as well - Finch is hardly convincing. Looks like he might get out any ball. Not tight on his off-stump.

  • POSTED BY GeminiAwan on | January 22, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    After whitewash in tests, it's looking like a whitewash in ODI's as well....

    what about the T20's ?

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | January 20, 2014, 17:24 GMT

    @JG as I said in my previous comment "I'd like a look at Briggs". That's why i'd play him. Also Tredwell was poor at home, but I admit he came back nicely yesterday. As I all said the nature of the squad means that I'd pick Bopara to bowl. I agree perhaps I'm being harsh on Bresnan, but I just don't rate him- since his injury he has become an innocuous bowler, and although he batted well, I've always felt his batting has been overrated. Perhaps picking Stokes over Bresnan is just me picking favourites (and the same with Briggs over Tredwell)

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 20, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Marsh/Warner is clearly the best opening partnership in ODI's for Australia. Fire power and stability and surprisingly, consistency.

  • POSTED BY ModernUmpiresPlz on | January 20, 2014, 11:59 GMT

    @SLslider Clearly you lack knowledge. Australia's batsmen play best when on fast, bouncy tracks where the ball comes onto the bat. Hence the failure in England on the slow turners they produced for us, and our general failure in the sub continent, but unlike your lot we go just fine in SA. You might want to check the history of Australia in SA, even with the terrible team we were fielding a couple of years back we went well in SA. Australia are not SL or India, we don't fail miserably just because the bowling is quick and the wickets are loaded with pace and bounce and the ball nips a little bit off the pitch. It's late swing and quality spin that we suck against, and SA only has half of that equation in Steyn.

    I'm not saying Australia are going to win the series over there, but if you think a whitewash is the only result possible you are absolutely mistaken. SA do well in Aus, and Aus do well in SA, we prepare the same kinds of wickets and both teams play well in either country.

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | January 20, 2014, 10:54 GMT

    @jb633 - glad you have settled down a bit now after the Gabba :)

    You are clearly missing KP, Anderson & out of form Finn + Swanny - I know Swann retired, but by his comms (re: bowling 30/40 overs) he could have continued playing ODI's as he is a good bowler & outstanding fielder & handy batter. Trott is also absent & with his average @51 would make a welcomed return to the squad - hear he is coming along nicely atm so hopefully ready for your summer...

    PS: xtrafalgarx isn't an Aussie, just follows my team for some reason?...

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 20, 2014, 10:23 GMT

    @Jono Makim - I am really happy that Finch was selected - his form warranted it. Averaging 30 is not bad, but often in averaging 30 - you get 4 poor scores before a good one. Yes the good one will probably win you a match - but what about the other innings? He has an ave of 33 after 21 games with a S/R of over 90, Haddin's ave as an opener is the same, with a S/R of 82. I think it is Faulkner v Finch, I want to see my top 4 averaging around 40, unless they are an allrounder - which effectively Haddin is. Bear in mind - I am excited about watching Finch tee-off, & would like him to succeed. @PrasPunter on (January 20, 2014, 8:15 GMT) - yeah, I wonder what he would be like against a Kemar Roach or Dale Steyn? There must be a reason why his FC average blows. @Shaggy076 on (January 20, 2014, 9:20 GMT) - I was with you until you said Warner & Marsh - ANYBODY but Marsh!!!!!!! If Marsh was the other option - Finch is a no-brainer in my books - I have ZERO confidence in Marsh!

  • POSTED BY SLslider on | January 20, 2014, 9:41 GMT

    It's funny how AUS fans are talking so much after winning just one series at their home. LOL. They have lost all their matches away from AUS in last 1 year or so and will also get whitewashed in SA. Nor do they have a single classy batsman like Sanga and Mahela, neither they have a spinner with the quality of Herath. If AUS can draw a single test match in SA it will be an achievement for them. Steyn,Phil and Morkel will have AUS overrate batsmen for breakfast. LOL. Some less than 50 scores coming up people.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 20, 2014, 9:20 GMT

    Merry; I agree with you not completely sold. I know there will be games Finch wins. But to think we could be undefeated in a world cup going into a quarter final and both Finch and Warner fail in that game and you lose. Finch can and will win games but something inside me tellsvme we would be safer and have a higher winning percentage with Warner and Marsh opening.

  • POSTED BY on | January 20, 2014, 8:46 GMT

    @Meety, I disagree on Finch, I don't care if he only averages 30, it's all about the strike rate. He and Davey throw the opposition bowlers into disarray every innings. Just where do you bowl at them? Finch has also shown over the last two or three years that he goes on with it in domestic 50 over cricket and he's carried that on into the international arena, if he bats through the better part of the innings the opposition is more than likely out of the game. Yes, he can look absolutely woeful but he gets the job done admirably. I have a sneaking suspicion our old mate Hammond is now frequenting these pages as Plumridge!

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | January 20, 2014, 8:15 GMT

    @Meety, exactly my point as well - Finch is hardly convincing. Looks like he might get out any ball. Not tight on his off-stump.

  • POSTED BY shanks1967 on | January 20, 2014, 7:01 GMT

    Awesome win, especially this one. I think the fielding was just brilliant from the Aussies. I am an Indian Fan and I was switching between Aus vs Eng and Ind vs NZ. Aussies had a walk in the park in this game. To win with 10 overs to spare means complete domination. Imagine If Aus had batted first they probably would have put 300 on the board and England under pressure of chasing would have got 50% of that. Cook looks like a rabbit caught in front of headlights. When Faulkner was going hammer and tongs in the last match, Cook was holding his chin, head and trying to conjure something out of thin air..yeah he conjured a defeat. I feel pity for the English team's individuals except Cook. Leaving a match winner like KP out of the team buries the word called LOGIC. Anyways England do not take One dayers seriously and am sure they do not have any plans of making a serious attempt to win the World Cup.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | January 20, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    @ Matt.au. when responding to @gsingh7, let's try to turn the tables and ask him the same questions on his team's achievements away from home. You know what, @gsingh7 would struggle to buy a reply.

  • POSTED BY on | January 20, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    I am an Indian and too be honest I really hate Australian team of 2008-09 . But I like current Australian team more as they are revamping there team and fighting hard like an champions.

  • POSTED BY on | January 20, 2014, 5:04 GMT

    England blew it with their lineup. Need an opener to partner cook. For a 1 dayer, Cook has been quite agressive and worthy. Root, Stokes and Ballance have been failures at 3 & 4. In fact lost us the games. Bell should bat 3, Pieterson at 4 Morgan at 5 Buttler at 6 and Stokes at 7. The other opener should be Kieswetter (I know that means 2 Wicketkeepers but Kieswetter can bat at the top and take pressure off Cook. Broad at 8, 9, 10 , & 11 you pick the bowlers.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 20, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    Not sold on Finch being our opener for the W/Cup. I think his selection for Oz has been justified by great domestic form in the format. The problem for me is - I don't think our best side contains both Faulkner & Finch (funnuily enuff both have won MotM awards this series). I would like to see Haddin as opener - this creates possibilities for Faulkner down the order. Oz side to win the W/C - 1. Haddin, 2. Warner, 3. Watson, 4. Clarke, 5. Bailey, 6. Voges or Maxwell, 7. Faulkner, 8. MJ or fully fit Starc, 9. Anyone of Harris/Coulter-Nile/Cutting, 10 McKay 11. Doherty - 12th man either S Smith or Maxwell. Please no more Pattinson in ODIs - he is a Test gun. I think that Starc is a better ODI bowler than MJ - by a long way (MJ is still very good in the format). I think that Harris is a better ODI bowler than a Test bowler - the issue is - do we gamble on another year or two of Test cricket v a home W/Cup.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | January 20, 2014, 4:46 GMT

    @ wellrounded87 : "The batting lineup seems content scoring at 3-4 run rate for 40 overs then go for a bang in the last 10." .. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but that is exactly the formula used by Imran Khan when Pakistan surprised everyone with their World Cup win in 1992. (It was '92 wasn't it?) .. anyway, the point is it was a new, innovative and winning formula - 21 years ago.

    In some circumstances it's probably still the way to go. A seaming, spitting green-top might demand something like that but for the majority of games it's just a tired, twenty year old tactic that's not particularly relevant to todays grounds, players and rules. .. Just thought I'd mention it.

  • POSTED BY Matt.au on | January 20, 2014, 1:05 GMT

    Posted by jb633 on (January 19, 2014, 19:41 GMT) AND Posted by jb633 on (January 19, 2014, 19:51 GMT)

    Kudos, two terrific heartfelt posts, without the misguided patriotic slurs against the opposition.

    If it helps, I, for the first time in my 50 years of following England V Australia feel sympathy towards England. Well, not so much for England as that's what it is about in the end, beating England, but the individual players that are trying their best whilst representing England.

    It's a shame to see them humiliated, I don't think that's what sport should be about.

  • POSTED BY Matt.au on | January 20, 2014, 0:40 GMT

    Posted by gsingh7 - and have not won test against a top 4 team away from home in years.

    Bzzz. In the last 5 years Australia have won 4 tests against England and Sth Africa away from home. Lean pickings but not as lean as Indias' 1 win against Sth Africa in the same period. Australia won a series in Sth Africa in this period.

    Posted by gsingh7 - also aus still not won a single test in India for a decade now.

    Bzzz. Well, the Bzzz may be a bit harsh because you are actually right. Australia haven't won a single test in India in the last decade, they have won two.

    This, in a time, when Australia are admittedly going through a poor patch of form.

    Why don't you just calm down and be nice.

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 20, 2014, 0:02 GMT

    Haz95: you're having a laugh! I can happily accept that Australia's bowling attack is possibly behind South Africa's. However, to suggest Pakistan has a better attack than Australia's is completely & laughably absurd! That's like comparing a bread & butter knife to a mini-gun. Nice try though

  • POSTED BY iceaxe on | January 19, 2014, 23:36 GMT

    Australia seem to be so proud of their achievements that the Sydney Morning Herald and TheAge (Melbourne) don't even make a mention of the NZ / India ODI Napier result. To that, I'm very pleased to see them pushed down the main home page. The Aussie/England games are just boring now...

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 23:19 GMT

    Awesome Australia. Sad to witness the England pathos. Sack cloth and ashes (forgive the pun) for now, re-invention of England starts in a couple of weeks. Everyone would have enjoyed a real full-blooded encounter, would have been the stuff of dreams, unforgettable. Oops, my beer is getting warm!

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 23:14 GMT

    Once again England fail to grasp the fact that it's the early overs that are there for being aggressive. England need 3 bashers at the top, followed by Bell and Morgan in the middle to nurdle, nudge and build with Buttler and whoever else to finish the job.

    By starting slowly and then slowing down some more it just puts pressure on Bell and Morgan to play dumb shots. If they went out and scored 70-80 off the first 10-15 overs then Belly and Morgs can play their natural games, they are Englands best two odi bats right now, by a mile but they are just getting no impetus from the top. By and large the chance to go big is stymied before it even gets started.

  • POSTED BY wellrounded87 on | January 19, 2014, 22:57 GMT

    England got off to a good start for a chance but then stagnated in overs 10-30. Surely by now they know they will be needing a 300+ score to finish. The batting lineup seems content scoring at 3-4 run rate for 40 overs then go for a bang in the last 10. This simply won't work. They need to get a good start and build on it... or they need to win the toss and send Australia. Anything under 280 is not gonna be defendable with the depth of the Australia batting lineup

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 19, 2014, 22:30 GMT

    gsingh7; Yes it has been two years now since we won a test in South Africa so you can use the term years. How many has it been since India have won a test against a top 4 team away? Pitty the rain stopped us winning those couple of tests in England then you couldn't even use the term years. Lets see if South Africa can finally beat us in South Afrrica and UAE I can see you commenting in 12 months time that it was no test as Sri Lanka could win there as well.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | January 19, 2014, 22:07 GMT

    @JG2704, I don't think those incidents were anything alike. It's much easier to pick up whether a player has grasped it with the trajectory of Morgan's today rather than flying through low to the keeper. Though what I find more amusing is that Australia decided to try and take a moral stance on these kind of things and have had nothing but trouble from it - I'm sure some will argue claiming grassed catches, which to some extent is true, as most sides have done so. We tried an agreement with other teams of accepting a player's word but it never works out and has caused more incidents and stir. They should cease that arrangement and let the umpires do their job, however poor the decisions may actually be with this whole 'camera angles never pick it up correctly' thing. At least that way we should see more consistency as generally the batsman is given the benefit of the doubt until an angle conclusively proves otherwise - as I believe today's did for both Morgan's and Stokes' dismissals.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | January 19, 2014, 22:07 GMT

    @ Paul Rone-Clarke : I can understand your pain. Been there, done that and got the T-shirt actually. However, I wouldn't expect the Aussies to ease off the pressure. Not in this mood. They'll probably experiment with the line-up a bit now the series is bagged but they'll still be doing their best to win. You can bank on that.

    It's up to England to turn their own fortunes around. Cook summed it up yesterday when asked 'what now for England'. He said 'we've got to win a game. Simple as that'. .. Confidence and momentum can swing rapidly in sport, we've shown that, and England need to do something similar. .. One or two player changes, a bit of luck and you could be back in business before you know it.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | January 19, 2014, 21:55 GMT

    @Roshan_P, that's because the 2 decks they played on in the tests were the flattest decks I've seen in SA in eons. Certainly the first test was lifeless and the second one not much better. They were pacey in the ODIs and India were all at sea...also, I'm right, India hasn't won a series in neither Aus nor SA. I don't think India have a better batting line up than Australia in ODIs, probably so in tests. But it's way too early to tell as the majority of these guys have only ever played in India and 2 matches outside, on relatively dosile wickets. We'll get a better idea of how they're coming along in England. Also, just because Aus have humped Eng here in Aus, they're a different prospect in their own backyard - even to the lot we faced in Eng as they certainly won't be keeping the decks dry for Ind's arrival and their swing bowlers will be much tougher to play.

  • POSTED BY SkyCutter on | January 19, 2014, 21:43 GMT

    Exceptional by AUS. They have done it in a big way. They are now No. 2 in the ODI rankings. If they continue on like this and IND loses a few more to NZ, the top spot will be in their hands.

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 19, 2014, 21:33 GMT

    Roshan_P: Embarrassing! India has NEVER won a test series in Australia. Repeat: never! Small tip, when in doubt: there's a little thing called statsguru.

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | January 19, 2014, 21:28 GMT

    The Aussies dish out another hiding to the hapless poms. Order has well and truly been restored. I am not going to say we will beat SA, but we have a damn good shot!

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 19, 2014, 21:28 GMT

    AlSmug: not too sure why you think Warner "carried on like a little school girl". The bloke affected one of THE most astounding run-outs I've ever seen, taking out England's best batsman in the process! He was excited & enjoyed the moment; which he is rightfully entitled to do. I'm sure you would just raise your hand, nod your head nonchantly & go "yep" & walk up to your team mates for a low-5 if you managed the same incerdible feat. Of course you would. Please! It was bloody brilliant & he celebrated. And, do you know what? That's actually ok to do that. Not everyone is an emotional void...

  • POSTED BY Ms.Cricket on | January 19, 2014, 21:09 GMT

    Too much holier than thou Clarke! We know how you have lied before as a fielder and batsman haha! Regarding England, the English selectors are more responsible for the mess than anyone else. Among the players already on tour the team for the next ODI in batting order should be Cook (c), Butler, Bell, Ballance, Morgan, Bopara, Stokes, Broad, Bresnan, Jordan and Tredwell.

  • POSTED BY salazar555 on | January 19, 2014, 21:05 GMT

    Bopara needs to go, he's a selfish player. He was playing for himself today, playing for his average, not the team. He chewed up ball after ball in the power play and went no where. England need to drop dead weight like Bopara and get some youth in there, Woakes in for Bopara next game

  • POSTED BY salazar555 on | January 19, 2014, 20:57 GMT

    ODI Team for English summer:

    Hales, Wright, Bell, Ballance, Morgan, Stokes, Butler, Bresnan, Broad, Tredwell, Anderson

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 19, 2014, 20:24 GMT

    ScottStevo & Chris_P: what you said! Nailed it. gsingh7: shut down!

  • POSTED BY CM1000 on | January 19, 2014, 20:13 GMT

    @Roshan_P Your comment about India "I know they definitely won a Test series in 2003 against Australia in Australia" is wrong. They won a Test match, they didn't win a series. India has never won a Test series in Australia.

  • POSTED BY jb633 on | January 19, 2014, 19:51 GMT

    I am not sure how other English people feel about this travesty but i certainly feel that sky sports are not doing this showing justice, in that they are not giving the players an absolute hiding for what we have seen. To be frank it has been utterly shameful from start to finish, what has annoyed me most as a fan is that there does not seem to have been any watershed moment in which one guy or a few rallied the troops and said enough is enough. Australia had theirs at Taunton and they did show some fight after that. We have just limped along as if losing is as inevitable as the sun coming up and our press have moaned about fatigue (even though it has been the same for both sides) but not one guy has shown any fire or a will to stand up and be counted. It really has been an utter disgrace and we must now use this tour as a marker for what can never happen again. We must have guys with grit and fire, guys who will not back down to anyone regardless of the pace they are bowling etc.

  • POSTED BY jb633 on | January 19, 2014, 19:41 GMT

    @xtrafagax, no all Aussies are well within their rights to be proud of their achievements. Aus have played very good and aggressive cricket and deserve to be dishing out the hiding we are receiving. However as an English fan we can't just back down and say ok we are going to accept our team being this awful and nobody is going to complain about our players because the Aussies are so good. You guys must surely know the feeling when you hit rock bottom, just think how you all felt when India beat you 4-0. As a fan you want things to change and you want heads to roll. It is part and parcel of being nationalistic and wanting your country to succeed. Aussie fans should be rightly revelling in their team's success, and I for one will congratulate you on your achievements. However from England's perspective we need to take this second whitewash, get home and start planning immediately for this can never ever happen again. I have never been so dissappointed in any sporting team to represent.

  • POSTED BY AlSmug on | January 19, 2014, 19:11 GMT

    @big boodha clearly Warner carried on like a little school girl , yes watson has been captain but he will never be a regular test captain , his behaviour on field when he dismissed gayle was an indication of his mental strength or lack there of at the time . That said he has matured now hes a father and we no longer see the wig outs , warner on the other hand is a touch mad, its common knowledge

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | January 19, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    @gsingh7 always comes up with something outrageously funny and sarcastic. Got to hand it to him for his serious jokes.

  • POSTED BY Roshan_P on | January 19, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    This would be my ODI line-up:

    AN Cook* / Carberry, IR Bell / Lumb / Hales, EJG Morgan, RS Bopara, GS Ballance, BA Stokes, JC Buttler†, TT Bresnan, SCJ Broad, CJ Jordan / Rankin, JC Tredwell.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | January 19, 2014, 18:33 GMT

    @Roshan_P , it was not a series victory for ind in aus - a 1-1 draw, back in 2003. Get your facts right before posting to a forum being followed worldwide.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | January 19, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    Finally,I never like to moan about umpires decisions and while I thought Morgan's catch was taken by Christian I thought there was similar doubt to the Warner claimed dismissal the other day and this was given out whereas Warner's was given not out. Both looked out in real time but then looked slightly doubtful on replays. Likelihood is that Aus would have won both matches regardless but Morgan was the one player in this inns who was going well. Just looked a little inconsistent to me

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | January 19, 2014, 18:10 GMT

    I wonder if Bopara got confused today when issued with the instructions when told

    "It seems like it could be a tired pitch and we'd like you try and dry up the runs in the middle overs and go at 3 or 4 an over if at all possible - definitely no more than 5"

    Ravi - they meant with the ball!

    Also re Stokes going up the order - I wonder if it's more the player to blame (for not following orders) than tactics? Surely if you want a player to get himself in and build/anchor an inns it's not Stokes. If that's the case maybe we're being a bit harsh blaming the tactics if the idea was for Stokes to play a positive cameo?

  • POSTED BY Roshan_P on | January 19, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    I can't believe they promoted Stokes to 3!!!!!! He is a good player, a good batsman and a decent bowler, but he is not No. 3 material. Yet you had the likes of Morgan and Bopara - experienced ODI batsmen and better batsmen than Stokes - lower down the order. I can't understand why they keep them down there when they are probably the best ODI batsmen in the team. People are putting far too many hopes and expectations on Stokes, and also on Root. These are still young guys, so let them develop! We don't want another case of Steven Finn!!!!! People are comparing Stokes to Flintoff - well would you ever see Flintoff at 3!!!!! No, he's an all-rounder who should be at 6!! Stokes is not some god-child just because he was the only one who did remotely well against the Aussies. Morgan or Bopara should be at 3!!!!!!! Also, Bell is a fantastic batsman but I'm not sure if he is ODI material. Same for Cook. They need a rest, they've had a lot to deal with over the past year.

  • POSTED BY Roshan_P on | January 19, 2014, 18:00 GMT

    @ScottStevo - I don't think what your saying is entirely true. Some of it isn't - I know they definitely won a Test series in 2003 against Australia in Australia, because I remember Dravid scored 233 and 72 in Adelaide. While many batsmen in the Indian team seemingly cannot play pace and bounce, there are some players (most of all Pujara, but also Kohli and Rahane and Vijay seemed to do OK) have played well in SA. There is still the matter of a proper fast bowler, and definitely some weak spots in the batting line-up. @gsingh - Are you really counting that previous ODI series against India as a proper series??? Nowhere else in the world would you get such ridiculous scores. Granted India have a better battting line-up than Australia, but you can't say they're a better team based on that series. Both those ODI series wins were at home, so I think until India wins a Test or ODI series outside the subcontinent, like SA did against England, then they can be considered a good team.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | January 19, 2014, 17:56 GMT

    @CodandChips on (January 19, 2014, 12:08 GMT) You'd still play Bopara at 5 after today? Also don't see what Tredwell did wrong to get dropped. Maybe a little harsh dropping Bres today too. Stokes was worse with bat and ball and has not done it with bat or ball in this series

  • POSTED BY AussieSam on | January 19, 2014, 17:54 GMT

    @AidanFX: Well, you gotta remember that Australia bowled England out quite easily in almost every innings in the Test series. Watson didn't need to bowl many overs but when he did he picked up some important wickets. In the England Ashes he bowled 85.3 overs in 9 innings, so 10 overs an innings which is about right for an all-rounder.

    Shaun Marsh's innings was pretty impressive. I wonder if he will be picked for the SA squad considering he grew up on the WACA so plays pace well. I feel like he'd be a safer option as reserve batsman (or possible replacement for Bailey) than Doolan, because he already has Test experience. Doolan seems like a good prospect but I think it'd be risky and even a bit unfair to debut him in SA against Steyn and co, even if he has faced them and done well in a tour game here. Then of course there is Hughes who scored a heap of runs in Shield last year and we know how well he's done in SA before.

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | January 19, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    @gsingh7. Sometimes, even I have difficulty understanding your twaddle. Do you ever, and I mean ever post anything relating to the article. This is an England/Australia series. Are you talking ODI's or Tests? With India 0-9 in their last 10 tests with the only draw seeing the other team 7 runs short of a test record run chase, I would suggest looking to the home front first. And, buddy, go back & look at the ODI results in England. Not sure what you been smoking or drinking but Australia won that 2-1. BTW, Forget about Australia not winning a test in India, India have never won a series in both South Africa AND Australia, ever. And it has been 1995, the last time you beat Sri Lanka over there, something to really beat your chest in triumph is it not? Selective memory recall is a great thing is it not? Good ot see you doing so well in NZ as well, sunshine.

  • POSTED BY Tumbarumbar on | January 19, 2014, 17:19 GMT

    If the same England squad that landed in Oz two months ago had landed in Sth Africa instead what result would people have predicted? A thrashing, a hard fought battle, a draw? It's an interesting question. The most interesting question will be how the Saffas face their own attack of pure pace coming back at them, something they haven't faced since Patrck Cummins tore them apart in the third test in South Africa last time.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | January 19, 2014, 17:19 GMT

    @gsingh7, really? How did India do today? Can't play pace and bounce, have the unenviable away record of 10 played with 0 wins. Have never won a series in Aus or SA. Yet, here you are telling Aus of their problems? What's the matter, too hard on the NZ v Ind pages where you're getting stuffed already (as you did in SA in both tests and ODIs) - and will probably lose that series against a stronger NZ team!!! Only Kohli and Dohni have any chance away from home. The rest of your much famed batting line up (much famed on their own lifeless tracks, that is) look like they couldn't play a backyard cricket match if there's actual grass on the wicket. Yeah, I'm so worried about some home town heroes bothering us...much in the same way we didn't have to last time you turned up and we murdered you 4-0 and flogged you in the ODIs. Fast pitch + short bowling = India dead and buried.

  • POSTED BY class9ryan on | January 19, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    Carberry, Bell, Pietersen, Morgan, Bopara, Buttler, Stokes, Tredwell, Broad, Anderson, Bresnan/ Jordan looks better . Need to change Cook to make this look a one-day outfit

  • POSTED BY Haz95 on | January 19, 2014, 16:19 GMT

    As a Pakistani, I have to say that Australia are favourites for the World Cup in 2015, by far too. They've got the batting who are useless in Subcontinent but are gems in Aus conditions which will suit the WC. Their bowling line up is world class and is probably best after SA and PAK. They have a good young crop of players too, especially faulkner who is turning out to be a batting allrounder...

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | January 19, 2014, 15:42 GMT

    winning series against england will not prove anything about present australia. they are still 0-7 win loss ratio away from home and have not won test against a top 4 team away from home in years.even india easily defeated england in odis last year .aus too lost to india 3-2 few months ago in odis when india chased 350 plus targets with ease. real test of aus will be in sa and uae.also aus still not won a single test in india for a decade now.

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 19, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    Geoffrey Anthony Plumridge: I take it those sour grapes you're stuffing yourself with taste pretty foul?

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 19, 2014, 14:39 GMT

    @Syed Adlou: Couldn't have said it better myself! People are now saying that England are bad team and Australia shouldn't be proud of beating them, but isn't this the team that we were saying would beat Australia 10-0? Didn't they just beat India IN INDIA? Didn't they just make it into the Champions trophy final and were a a hairs width away from winning?

    They were considered a very good side only months ago, but at the moment when you look up and down that line up, who are we scared off? Maybe Morgan, but the rest you can throw a blanket over.

  • POSTED BY wellrounded87 on | January 19, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    @the pacifist I don't think anyone is claiming Australia are the best team in the world in any format. We've got a good side but not a great side. We have a great attack but a batting lineup full of liabilities. Till our top 6 can perform consistently we'll never take the number 1 spot from the Saffas and even if we somehow upset them over there winning in India still seems an enormous prospect.

    It's just good to see Australia beating England again. Let us enjoy it, we've had 4 years of Ashes misery prior to this.

  • POSTED BY BradmanBestEver on | January 19, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    My goodness me the English are being pounded into submission - and let us not forget they beat India in India recently - what a performance by Australia to turn around a 3-zip Ashes loss - one of the truly great test cricket team performances of all time

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 19, 2014, 13:52 GMT

    ThePacifist10: you're making stuff up. Johnson only played the final test of the series in India. Faulkner has played just a solitary test: the Oval test last English Ashes series. Australia generally always matches up well against SA. It will be a tough scrap & a close contest, regardless.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 19, 2014, 13:35 GMT

    Where are the 2 teams at for the W/Cup? It looks pretty clear that England need KP in the top 4. I know his form hasn't been the best, but it would be better than what has been offered so far. Cook should not play ODIs. If he drops ODIs - Ithink he will return to being a batsmen who carves out big Test match innings.I think England showed for the first time today - that they realise the ODI game has moved on from a year ago - & are showing more urgency at the top, just Bell stuffed things up again by getting run out. A more sensible Bell & ENgland could of posted some big scores. I do not believe Bell is a top order ODI batsmen as he doesnt convert his starts enuff. Judging by this series - I think Bresnan should open the batting & not bowl (just joking about the bowling). Full strength Eng 1. Cook, 2. KP, 3. Ballance, 4. Morgan, 5. Bell, 6. Stokes, 7. Buttler, 8. Bresnan, 9. Broad, 10. Jordan, 11. Treadwell - with the w/c around the corner - Bortwhick should be a given a go.

  • POSTED BY PACERONE on | January 19, 2014, 13:33 GMT

    It is ironic how fortunes have changed.Root has become a failure after been considered a bright and shining star.Warner was dropped and vilified for bad behavior in a bar.Now Warner is flourishing.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    England once had a team that could dominate any team any format only recently but looking at their team now, who would you fear playing? Sad times... and they also want to rule the ICC... embarrassing!

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 19, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    @RednWhiteArmy on (January 19, 2014, 4:48 GMT) - ah yes they did - they sent it to the 3rd umpire.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 19, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    @Plumridge - where's the 5-nil scoreline you were predicting to England? Oh dear - shows that your views on cricket are worthless anyway! By the way - it is cricket not dressage!

  • POSTED BY cricketsubh on | January 19, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    finch need to score runs constitantly to held his spot if he fails in last 2 matches i think marsh should open with warner i donot think finch is a batter player then marsh i think he should open with warner in next odi series .

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    michael clarke is the best captn my best pyr

  • POSTED BY ThePacifist10 on | January 19, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    Every team turns out to be a home bully. Australia are doing it right now and quite frankly, have no business praising themselves and claiming to be the best until they do it against a VERY good team. Away. England are a laughing stock. Don't derive pride from defeating weaklings. Prove yourselves against South Africa, push them to the extent that India did in Jo'burg and most of the Durban test. (Forget the last innings) You guys have a great team, so prove it against the best. You lost against India, with Johnno and Faulkner, despite them playing well. ;)

    I wish you luck, thought to be honest, you guys have a better chance of doing well, due to your reliance on pace bowlers. Lyon is better than Ashwin as well. :P Fix your away batting though. You've got a big problem there. With us Indians we have the opposite problem. Our bowling is rubbish, apart from Shami, and to an extent Bhuvi. But you'd know that, wouldn't you? ;)

  • POSTED BY BradmanBestEver on | January 19, 2014, 12:59 GMT

    The Aussies have taken the top off a bottle of the strongest bleach for the ultimate of all whitewashes of the hapless poms

    Hasn't it been an terrific pounding of the English team this summer?

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 19, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    I did not clarify myself well previously. I am well aware Watson has a formidable One Day record. I was referring to him for the most part in terms of his place in the Test team. Although I guess it seems in this series the squad (One Day squad granted) seems fine without him - and I see it that way in the Test team too. Overall the squad in this One day series the batsmen look solid as a unit. And yes I can tell they seem capable of scoring 300+ regularly. I am also well aware Watson is a very good bowler. When in form he is as accurate as anyone in the world. The problem is - we have no idea whether he will bowl or not or how many overs. Someone of his class needs to be bowling more than 5 overs an innings for either Test innings or One Day cricket. He need not bowl ridiculous amount of overs but more than presently. If he is going to be unreliable with bowling (and he keeps changing his mind it seem in what he wants), well I guess selectors need to look else where for ARs.

  • POSTED BY Tumbarumbar on | January 19, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    In the tests Bailey was out hooking 2 or was it 3 times which is odd considering the criticism surrounding his front foot movement, criticism that can be layed against every batsmen in the world early in their innings. In truth he was surrounded by a lot of batsmen who, bar Haddin, had one or maybe two good scores amid a lot of failures. Bailey's problem was that the two times he really got going he was sensationally caught by Swann of a full blooded hook and Clarke declared when ten more minutes might well have seen him 60 or so not out and a relative success. It makes no sense to replace him with a brand new batsman on a tough, very short tour to South Africa when in truth if Australia get to the point where they are relying on Bailey to make runs it means they are covering up for ongoing failures by the top order again

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | January 19, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    Lucky Bresnan got a hold of a few or this game would have fizzed out shortly after drinks. Have to agree with @Paul Rone-Clarke's comments, the fight needs to be stopped, there are still T20's to follow this latest bloodbath, how Eng can let KP kick back in the face of these beatdowna is beyond me. Aust had their off game in Briz and still jagged a win, these next 2 can only be one-sided affairs now.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    Sad watching a team implode like this, a team that was number 1 only recently and now is about to equal the longest losing streak in English cricket history. Australia will get a shock though in the coming months, just because they can repeatedly flog a horse that is already dead doesn't mean they will be able to ride a different horse with some life still in it. Australia still just bog average. England is just so devoid of anything they make the Aussies look like world beaters.

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | January 19, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    Hey, remember when 'England' were going to win everything in this tour? Eight internationals to Nil with five to play. What a hoot this has been.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    england should improve their playing style ... right now the team looks divided and under pressure and after that ashes ... england looks ashed out ... i hate to call them even the creators of cricket

  • POSTED BY Matt.au on | January 19, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    Posted by OneEyedAussie - The only weak link for Australia today was Pattinson.

    Weak is probably a bit harsh but I get where you are coming from. Remember, he has hardly bowled a ball in anger since Moses wore shorts.

    This is why I despise the current Australian cricket calender. T20 being played to the exclusion of all other domestic cricket when we are about to play the No1 test nation.

    How are players like Pattison meant to come back to first class cricket and push a claim for the Sth African tour, when there is no first class cricket going on?

    Bailey is injured, if he can't recover and or is dropped (I'd prefer him not to be picked) from the test side to tour Sth Africa, replacements tune up by playing T20? What if we had to go deeper if Watson or Clarke break down prior to the tour?

    Any replacements would go from batter friendly T20/ODI wickets to needing to play on fast green tops.

    This, from administrators that say they want us back to being No1 test team ASAP.

  • POSTED BY Realistic_cri_fan on | January 19, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    Doherty is looking like a different bowler after a horror series in India.Well done Doherty. England can't attack a spinner means they can't win a match.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | January 19, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    (continued)

    And so I reselect the following team: 1.Bell 2.Carberry 3.Ballance 4.Morgan 5.Bopara 6.Buttler 7.Stokes 8.Woakes 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs

    Given Woakes' improvement in First Class Batting, he could go higher up and Bopara and Stokes drop down

    But for the tour of the West Indies, I'd consider a completely different approach. Will decide after this series but would definitely include James Taylor.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | January 19, 2014, 12:04 GMT

    Well done Australia. No matter who you rest, you still keep beating us.

    Don't understand the wisdom of Stoke at 3. He had hardly done much in his ODI career to date to merit batting anywhere near there. Also his poor strike rate today shows he either struggled or got caught up in the role and the formula. I like the lad, but his place should be in threat. Cook and Bell may have shown intent, but if you want your top order to do that, do you need them?

    Bresnan may have batted well but still bowled innocuously. Tredwell has come back nicely from the home series but I'd still like a look at Briggs. A shame on Broad as he bowled well in the ashes.

    Bopara in my opinion is playing in his last ODI series. His batting, like for most of his career, has been disappointing. I'd actually describe it this series as disastrous. But he has bowled well so for the last 2 matches I'd keep him in as a sixth bowler, and hope he bats well. The make up of the squad doesn't give much choice.

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | January 19, 2014, 12:04 GMT

    congrats to Australia on taking the series, come on England, lets have some fight back... @Thom Nienaber - you're right, good player, he is better doing interviews on mute though imho..:-)

  • POSTED BY Darksack on | January 19, 2014, 11:54 GMT

    Ragav."..Any decent ODI team have batsman in there top 4or 5 that can bat for the majority of the innings I would think that Marsh would fit that bill !

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | January 19, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    Bit of a walk in the park in the end.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    This is about as much fun as watching someone kick a dead dog. Cooke's response when told by Mark Nicholas that England were playing Aus in the first game of the WC next year - a sardonic "Great" then he walked off - summed up both the players and the viewers attitude to this. England are destroyed. What we are seeing now is overkill - a team so hugely superior in ability and application kicking the lifeless corpse of their opponent.

    I know Aussies love to beat poms no matter what - but for me as a cricket watcher of 40 years - I think I've watched my last game for a while. Zero expectation of seeing anything other than one humiliation after another.

    If this was a boxing match the ambulance would be ringside taking the loser away for serious medical attention weeks ago. So unedifying to see this massacre continue.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 11:46 GMT

    It's time England brings Moeen Ali... Such a classy player! Look for his stats on Cricinfo... England need players like Moeen Ali who are good All Rounders..!

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 19, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    @Ragav999: That's Warner's job, we need an anchor at the top not 2 enforcers. Also, Finch doesn't stay long enough at the crease for his strike rate to matter. I reckon Marsh has now got it figured out and we will see the best of him over the next few years.

    @AidanFX: The more comments i read from you, the more i wonder what game you watch. Watson is our best limited overs cricketer by a long shot it's not funny. His record is so good in ODI's and T20's that he can literally walk into the team on either batting or bowling by themselves, genuine all rounder in those forms. He is a no.6 in tests but he has to bite the bullet at no.3 because no one else has been good enough to do it!

  • POSTED BY leetrevor81 on | January 19, 2014, 11:43 GMT

    AidanFX nothing wrong with two enforcers as long as they are both performing. Australia look like scoring 300 plus with ease every game because they have so much power in their team. Finch, Warner, Watson, Bailey, Faulkner, Maxwell can all score over a run a ball with no problems. I can not see this team scoring less than 300 unless they are all out. 2 out of 3 games the top order has done its job (game 1 Finch with a ton, Warner with a 50. game 3 Warner and Marsh 70s) The game our top order failed, game 2, we had so much depth Maxwell and Faulkner still got us to 300. I love the balance of the side.

    More stable without Watson is an interesting comment, check out Watson's ODI and 20 20 figures. He is one of the best limited overs batsmen in the world. ODI average of 41 and strike rate of 90. 20 20 average of 33 and strike rate of 144

  • POSTED BY ModernUmpiresPlz on | January 19, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    @Valleypf Seeing as I specifically mentioned and was most definitely discussing the test team, yes. Bailey's ODI average isn't relevant, he is a technical failure as a test batsman, far more so than Watson ever has been. No idea what you're talking about sir.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | January 19, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    Stating the bleeding obvious, England were at least 50 runs short. Great credit to Doherty and Maxwell for putting the breaks on them. 40/60 dot balls from X is exactly what we needed after Engs. brisk start. Coulter-Nile bowled well on a slowish wicket but Patto was only out there for a training run. He looked rusty as hell and was never going to get 10 overs after his start.

    For Eng, I'm not sure Stokes will be feeling all that comfortable at the moment. Not the returns they were hoping for I'd say. Eng. need Bell to stop getting run out. That's twice isn't it? .. Morgan's quality but needs support and Bell fits that bill. I'm not sure about Buttler. Had the fumbles today and I think his batting is a bit rank. .. Jordan is pretty good. Cook kept going back to him for 1 or 2 over spells hoping for wickets. He's a trier as well. Keeps going hard as he can. Hit 147k's today but was generally around 138 or so. A fast bowler with a surprise faster ball sounds handy.

  • POSTED BY postandrail on | January 19, 2014, 11:26 GMT

    ModernUmpiresPlz So you would drop Bailey who averages 54.5 in ODI's? Is there currently anyone with a higher average in World Cricket? Don't give up your job in the hope of becoming a selector will you!

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | January 19, 2014, 11:25 GMT

    Whatever you think you saw @AISmug Warner was clearly just expressing a little disbelief at his perfect throw down, if anything he looked sheepish about it, not in the least cocky. Hardly luck either, the bounce throw into the square is trained by fielding coaches worldwide as it's a faster throw to the stumps than on the full from the outfield, did you not see how Haddin convinced it was dead on from someway out?? Afraid you need to keep searching if you need somewhere to grind that dull axe you've got there (pretty sure Watson has captained Aust too BTW)

  • POSTED BY OneEyedAussie on | January 19, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    So it looks like this was the typical SCG surface where 250-260 would be a par score. But accounting for the new rules, England really needed 280-290. There was never really any scoreboard pressure on the Australians so they cantered home.

    England showed good intent early in their innings but why they promoted Stokes instead of someone like Buttler or Morgan eludes me. The only weak link for Australia today was Pattinson.

  • POSTED BY Mastervillain on | January 19, 2014, 11:16 GMT

    England seemed to lose their way quite crucially after the openers departed with a start on the board. Ballance and Stokes, in particular, got stuck and a trademark mini collapse then followed later on. The over-rated Broad clearly had a shocker with both bat and ball.

    Although Root has been jaded and out of sort with the bat, a second slow bowler would have given the side a better chance in my view. He would probably have been my pick over Briggs at this stage.

    Our experienced seamers on show lack craft and guile to my book. The most polished performers we have are Anderson and Onions, both absentees here. That said, Jordan shows far more promise than fragile Rankin.

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 19, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    Australia seem so much more stable without Watson. My memory of One Day matches is not so good. But as far as Tests go - Watson has held his spot by doing just enough with the ball in a match/innings or just enough with the bat - but I have never seem him do both (at least for some time) in a match. And he is just far too inconsistent for a player in the top order. I am still not convinced by Finch. ANd I am not sure the purpose of two enforcers opening - it seldom happens both enforce it at the same time, there is generally a pattern by nature, one scores aggressively the other alternates the strike. You don't need a dead boring slow batsmen, quite the opposite, but I am not sure you need two enforcers.

    No, Pattinson needs another go, 1st game back at international level. He has too much class, too much class to ignore - and he needs to be primed on standby for SA. And it is too soon to say he can't bowl the 50 Over game. I say rest Clarke, Haddin, Warner for Perth.

  • POSTED BY Ragav999 on | January 19, 2014, 11:06 GMT

    @xtrafalgarx : Finch has a much superior strike rate than Marsh. That is a very important statistic in limited overs games.

  • POSTED BY Scuderi on | January 19, 2014, 11:02 GMT

    @rednehite army Kookaburra are the only whiteball manufacturer in the world.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    Like him or hate him___David Warner___What a player?!!

  • POSTED BY ModernUmpiresPlz on | January 19, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    Marsh in at #3 in the test team, drop Watson to #6? Not 100% convinced but it definitely looks better than a team with Bailey in it.

  • POSTED BY TheBigBoodha on | January 19, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    AIsmug, what on earth are you talking about? Warner thre his hands in the air after hitting the stumps from the outfield, side on. Is that too much for you? Or maybe it wa his covering his mouth - because he couldn't quite believe what he'd done. Either way, the problem here is not Warner, it's what ever projections are buried deep in your mind.

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 19, 2014, 10:23 GMT

    Shun Marsh >>>>> Finch. More complete, smarter and simply better. How Finch gets in the side before him, i don't know. Gary Ballances catches the ball in the first ODI Finch is averaging 10.

  • POSTED BY TheBigBoodha on | January 19, 2014, 10:10 GMT

    RedNWhiteArmy, they used the Kookaburra in the SA/India series. Seems Johnson and Harris and Watson managed to swing them pretty good in the Ashes, so logically the problem can't be the ball.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | January 19, 2014, 10:00 GMT

    @RednWhiteArmy, what are you talking about? As opposed to what, the Dukes ball, exclusively used in the UK? You're a genius, mate...

  • POSTED BY nthuq on | January 19, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    Nice try RednWhiteArmy, but the entire world uses white Kookaburra balls for the short form version of the game.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | January 19, 2014, 9:57 GMT

    @cccrider, and that's exactly his role in this side - and he's doing it very well.

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | January 19, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    How many kookaburra balls does it take to play a ODI? Who knows but they are rubbish. No wonder no-one else uses them.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    looks like another Aussie one unless England can pull this off. god luck to both teams.

  • POSTED BY cccrider on | January 19, 2014, 9:08 GMT

    Marsh dropping anchor, could lose this for Australia if he stays in for any length.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 19, 2014, 8:40 GMT

    @xtrafalgarx: Rohit Sharma is good only on flat placid tracks. Looked very much out of place against steyn. Just take another look at the first over Steyn bowled to Sharma in the Jo'burg ODI to make up your mind.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | January 19, 2014, 8:38 GMT

    Unlucky for Finch picking up cover to precision. Was really looking good and ball was in the slot for the shot. Just a feet either side and would have been 4. 3 tosses on the trot and now this. 1 thing Eng cant complain -luck .

  • POSTED BY cccrider on | January 19, 2014, 8:35 GMT

    Marsh, dot ball specialist. Very hard to watch.

  • POSTED BY cccrider on | January 19, 2014, 8:19 GMT

    Finch is as canny as he looks, the very same dismissal over and over.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 19, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    Drs flawed - nobody cares about Ipl, I hope none of England players get greedy and play in it this year. Morgan needs to play county championship cricket to get back in the Test team.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | January 19, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    Stage is set for 'Dashing' Warner with a small chase and good pitch and a Eng bowling attak. Will be over soon if he stays for around 25 overs . Be a 100 to his name too.

  • POSTED BY Jagger on | January 19, 2014, 7:35 GMT

    Looking forward to Harris, Bird and Johnson in the ODI team for the World Cup.

  • POSTED BY TheBigBoodha on | January 19, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    Could be a tricky chase. This wicket is as tacky as tofu, and it won't get any easier to bat on. Finch and Warner will need to score quickly against the new all.

    I think I mentioned that Pattinson was an ordinary ODI bowler. He still is. McKay should have played on his track. But I guess they wanted to share the love around.

  • POSTED BY salazar555 on | January 19, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    Bopara is worthless in the middle. Chewing up all those deliveries in the power play. He looked liek he was playing for his average not to try and win the game. I'd bring Woakes in for Bopara next game. Series will be lost by then anyway

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | January 19, 2014, 7:01 GMT

    Safe to say Aus with having best pace attack in world is the best in field too-ahead of SA. As Warner showed with the 'run out' they wont miss Punter-in the field that is-any more.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on | January 19, 2014, 6:56 GMT

    Root got dropped finally, despite again England already being on the precipice of another series defeat to Australia. I still think Flower should be sacked and Giles is yet to prove himself. The whole ECB setup needs new faces if England are to be competitive ever again. England are about 100 runs light on this track. @FFL, normal service has resumed.

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 19, 2014, 6:49 GMT

    Pattinson hasn't looked up to scratch.

  • POSTED BY lillee4PM on | January 19, 2014, 6:44 GMT

    Very good knock from Bresnan at the death and Aussies let the Poms off the hook but still backing our boys for the win. This is gonna be fun!!

  • POSTED BY nlpdave on | January 19, 2014, 6:34 GMT

    It was always premature to crown Stokes as the next great all-rounder based on just one innings on a pitch that suited his style. He is, perhaps, deceiving England with a spectacular one-off when the rest of his game is way below par. Remenber Ashton Agar who was undroppable for the second test last year but Australia twigged early that his bowling was dross and did the right thing. I'm not sure England have even noticed yet. I can't see England winning any games in Australia, but good news that the coach is staying on to finish the job off.

  • POSTED BY DRS_Flawed_NeedsImprovement on | January 19, 2014, 6:25 GMT

    only 2 english players desereved to play in IPL, one is pieterson and the other one is ofcourse morgan.

  • POSTED BY lillee4PM on | January 19, 2014, 6:20 GMT

    Drop Pattinson (expensive and no wickets), bring in Jackson Bird for Perth and keep MJ on ice for SA.

  • POSTED BY lillee4PM on | January 19, 2014, 6:06 GMT

    Amazing catch from Dan Christian!! England melting like popsicles on a summer's day.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | January 19, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    Yet again we're behind the game and yet again we leave our most dangerous batsman in the hutch. Bopara has just got out for 21 at a blistering SR of 58 and now it's up to Jos and Morgan to rescue the game once more. Now Buttler - if he comes off - has (if he plays the full 10 overs and bats 50% of it) 30 balls to make an impact and that at the expense of our other powerful batsman Abysmal stuff

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 19, 2014, 5:45 GMT

    RedNWhiteArmy; One minor difference it was out.

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | January 19, 2014, 5:41 GMT

    @Anand Kumar: Isn't Rohit Sharma good now? Scored lots of hundreds recently in ODI's and tests.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | January 19, 2014, 5:36 GMT

    Well 'that' r/o of the Eng opener that sounded the death 'bell' for him and a poss. collapse by Warner's 'run out of the century'! was the best you would ever see. And boy wasnt he chuffed!

  • POSTED BY lillee4PM on | January 19, 2014, 5:27 GMT

    Cook and Bell got off to a good start but were out to some good work by the Aussies. Then England prove that they are a team without a plan and still running things by committee in the back room by sending Stokes to bat at #3. If you're gonna promote a player why not the in form Morgan? Poor leadership from England again...simply stupid. Australian batting, bowling and fielding talent in the ODI arena will bury the Poms in this series.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 5:27 GMT

    @ Dark Man X - What planet have you been living on? Every knows he has been constantly injured.

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | January 19, 2014, 4:48 GMT

    Regarding the Stokes dismissal. The fielder says it was out, the batsman accepted it and walked off, will the umpires now intervene just like they did with the warner dismissal in the 1st ODI?

  • POSTED BY AlSmug on | January 19, 2014, 4:24 GMT

    I am a passionate cricket fan first an for most and a passionate Australian cricket fan, however, Warners reaction to his run out were bounce of the bal was an influence in his direct throw , well i have to say he is a smug little one , there is a reason why this fella should never be test captain and yet again he has shown us all why. Like Watsons wig out when he dismissed Gayle all those yrs ago at the gabba on field , we have another x for life as captain. Clarke is different on field he and on camera he is fantastic he does his weirdness off the field

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | January 19, 2014, 4:18 GMT

    Sound precaution to rest Mitch and let him focus on regrowing his facial hair, he was a bit down on pace in Brisbane I thought, normally we'd see a few express overs in an ODI with only 10 overs but it was mostly low 140's, didn't nudge 150 at all that I recall.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 4:00 GMT

    my guess is right stokes is the no.3 batsman

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 19, 2014, 3:52 GMT

    Is Shaun Marsh the Rohit Sharma of Australian Cricket ? Batting looks very pleasing to the eye, looks a million dollars in IPL and domestic, somehow international success still elusive.

  • POSTED BY sreni on | January 19, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    Good..finally Eng dropped Root..

  • POSTED BY Rajeshj on | January 19, 2014, 3:35 GMT

    England have themselves to blame for their pathetic displays.. Their team selection lacks logic and quite baffling.. Rankin was far better than Bresnan in the previous match and still Bresnan gets a chance ahead of him..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 19, 2014, 3:31 GMT

    England have batting till 7 and Broad at 8 and still keep picking Bresnan quite surprisingly. His bowling is very ordinary, batting NOT special, fielding NOT outstanding. Finn / Onions in that line up for Bresnan make up for a more penetrative attack.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 19, 2014, 3:25 GMT

    What on earth has happened to Pat Cummins? He was doing really well and suddnley dissapeared from the international arena.

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  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | January 19, 2014, 3:25 GMT

    What on earth has happened to Pat Cummins? He was doing really well and suddnley dissapeared from the international arena.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 19, 2014, 3:31 GMT

    England have batting till 7 and Broad at 8 and still keep picking Bresnan quite surprisingly. His bowling is very ordinary, batting NOT special, fielding NOT outstanding. Finn / Onions in that line up for Bresnan make up for a more penetrative attack.

  • POSTED BY Rajeshj on | January 19, 2014, 3:35 GMT

    England have themselves to blame for their pathetic displays.. Their team selection lacks logic and quite baffling.. Rankin was far better than Bresnan in the previous match and still Bresnan gets a chance ahead of him..

  • POSTED BY sreni on | January 19, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    Good..finally Eng dropped Root..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 19, 2014, 3:52 GMT

    Is Shaun Marsh the Rohit Sharma of Australian Cricket ? Batting looks very pleasing to the eye, looks a million dollars in IPL and domestic, somehow international success still elusive.

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 4:00 GMT

    my guess is right stokes is the no.3 batsman

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | January 19, 2014, 4:18 GMT

    Sound precaution to rest Mitch and let him focus on regrowing his facial hair, he was a bit down on pace in Brisbane I thought, normally we'd see a few express overs in an ODI with only 10 overs but it was mostly low 140's, didn't nudge 150 at all that I recall.

  • POSTED BY AlSmug on | January 19, 2014, 4:24 GMT

    I am a passionate cricket fan first an for most and a passionate Australian cricket fan, however, Warners reaction to his run out were bounce of the bal was an influence in his direct throw , well i have to say he is a smug little one , there is a reason why this fella should never be test captain and yet again he has shown us all why. Like Watsons wig out when he dismissed Gayle all those yrs ago at the gabba on field , we have another x for life as captain. Clarke is different on field he and on camera he is fantastic he does his weirdness off the field

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | January 19, 2014, 4:48 GMT

    Regarding the Stokes dismissal. The fielder says it was out, the batsman accepted it and walked off, will the umpires now intervene just like they did with the warner dismissal in the 1st ODI?

  • POSTED BY on | January 19, 2014, 5:27 GMT

    @ Dark Man X - What planet have you been living on? Every knows he has been constantly injured.