Australia v England, 1st Test, Brisbane, 3rd day November 23, 2013

Trott dismissal 'pretty weak' - Warner

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David Warner claimed he saw fear in Jonathan Trott's eyes after England's No. 3 completed a wretched first Ashes Test at the Gabba by flicking Mitchell Johnson to deep square leg.

The dismissal ended a stay in which Trott looked completely lost for a response to Johnson's pace and bounce, compounding the weakness that had first been spotted during the ODI series in England that followed the previous Ashes series.

England are now facing a heavy defeat in the first match of the return bout in Brisbane and Warner had no hesitation in declaring that England's batsmen had "scared eyes", epitomised by Trott's "weak" response to the short-pitched challenge of Johnson.

"Our bowlers are bowling fast at the moment, England are on the back foot and it does look like they've got scared eyes," Warner said. "The way Trotty got out today was pretty poor and pretty weak, obviously there's a weakness there at the moment and we're probably on top of it."

He also contended that Trott needed to work on his verbals after a day on which several English and Australian players exchanged words.

"I think he's got to get new sledges as well because it's not working for him at the moment. Yeah he's worked hard in the nets on the short ball, we've seen him, but facing a 150kph short ball from Mitchell Johnson, the way to go is probably not trying to back away."

Warner, who made his own major contribution to Australia's cause with his first Ashes century alongside the captain Michael Clarke, said Australia had made significant psychological strides in their bid to regain the Urn after two days of near total domination of the tourists.

"Obviously getting a one-nil lead in a five-Test series is going to be massive for us," Warner said. "If Tests were back-to-back it would be quite tough on the English bowlers to try and back up but they've got a good break after this. Hopefully we can take the eight wickets tomorrow and go on from there."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • POSTED BY on | November 26, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    Every team sledges........ Build a bridge ....... And get over it! !!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | November 26, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    Venkat_Gowrishankar - The same place as Indias aggression when they were whipped 4-0 over here. THe team in front is always going to look more aggressive as for one they have more wickets to celebrate, and are in a much happier mood.

  • POSTED BY Venkat_Gowrishankar on | November 25, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    I cant stop laughing, where were was all this agression when Australia got drubbed 4-0 in India. Aggression is seasonal stuff I guess. Good players speak less, Legends of the game rarely talk - Brian Lara, Tendulkar, Sobers and they all have a reason for it. They dont believe in petty things like what warner believes in.

  • POSTED BY Ben2014 on | November 25, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    On the field aggression is good for the fans. Off the field, no, Warner... it was not right on your part to have said this. Warner should repair the damage.

  • POSTED BY Rabies on | November 25, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Perhaps Mr Warner would be well advised to confine his contributions to on- field matters as his off field activities seem only to diminish our enjoyment of the former due to our disappointment at the latter.

  • POSTED BY PutMarshyOn on | November 25, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    Please let your cricket do the talking Mr Warner.

  • POSTED BY on | November 25, 2013, 9:04 GMT

    says he with 4 centuries. what a hero!

  • POSTED BY crick_sucks on | November 25, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    They were "stressed eyes" after all.

  • POSTED BY Stevros3 on | November 25, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Breaking news here in the UK: Trott is going home due to 'long term stress related illness' saw this on the Guardian paper about 2 minutes ago.

  • POSTED BY Sandt on | November 25, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    Why cant AUS keep the mouth shut and do the job.They always do this.One or another start giving comments and the mind game begins.Hope Eng will come back strongly next test and show the current AUS team where they stand and belongs.Warner should concentrate on his batting instead of giving comments about other players. He is not even half good for test match and start barking now after one hundred.

  • POSTED BY on | November 26, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    Every team sledges........ Build a bridge ....... And get over it! !!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | November 26, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    Venkat_Gowrishankar - The same place as Indias aggression when they were whipped 4-0 over here. THe team in front is always going to look more aggressive as for one they have more wickets to celebrate, and are in a much happier mood.

  • POSTED BY Venkat_Gowrishankar on | November 25, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    I cant stop laughing, where were was all this agression when Australia got drubbed 4-0 in India. Aggression is seasonal stuff I guess. Good players speak less, Legends of the game rarely talk - Brian Lara, Tendulkar, Sobers and they all have a reason for it. They dont believe in petty things like what warner believes in.

  • POSTED BY Ben2014 on | November 25, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    On the field aggression is good for the fans. Off the field, no, Warner... it was not right on your part to have said this. Warner should repair the damage.

  • POSTED BY Rabies on | November 25, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Perhaps Mr Warner would be well advised to confine his contributions to on- field matters as his off field activities seem only to diminish our enjoyment of the former due to our disappointment at the latter.

  • POSTED BY PutMarshyOn on | November 25, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    Please let your cricket do the talking Mr Warner.

  • POSTED BY on | November 25, 2013, 9:04 GMT

    says he with 4 centuries. what a hero!

  • POSTED BY crick_sucks on | November 25, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    They were "stressed eyes" after all.

  • POSTED BY Stevros3 on | November 25, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Breaking news here in the UK: Trott is going home due to 'long term stress related illness' saw this on the Guardian paper about 2 minutes ago.

  • POSTED BY Sandt on | November 25, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    Why cant AUS keep the mouth shut and do the job.They always do this.One or another start giving comments and the mind game begins.Hope Eng will come back strongly next test and show the current AUS team where they stand and belongs.Warner should concentrate on his batting instead of giving comments about other players. He is not even half good for test match and start barking now after one hundred.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | November 25, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    Battle of the sledgers and mindgames begins!!! Warner should have kept quiet. Although I support Oz in this Ashes battle, a team should realize that you win some and lose some. Respect of the other team despite the loss should be practiced. England have one of the best batsman in the world (KP) His style is incomparable with most batsman today. For the next games Oz need to find a way to keep him from scoring. There are 4 more games and if Oz can get the next game they will be truly on their way of getting the ashes back. A really exciting TEST series!!!

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | November 25, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    Agree that this is another beatup. We could begin by actually accurately reporting what Warner said. But that would be asking a little too much for an English journalist. So let the Poms moan and groan because Warner said Trott has a weakness to the short ball. Then we can move on to every other comment made by players about shortcomings in other players and teams. We could be here a while.

  • POSTED BY Kevin_Creasey on | November 25, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    My god there is a lot of whinging poms in the mix here. He wasnt even the first to say anything about Trott, his on countryman Michael Vaughan wrote on twitter...

    @MichaelVaughan 22 Nov

    As bad a innings that I have ever seen from a England No 3.

    It was weak and who really cares, it puts more interesting things into the mix of this great game. Play on...

  • POSTED BY on | November 25, 2013, 2:26 GMT

    Warner does not have the captaincy material -- he is trying to be a bully , time after time . Cricket is about showing respect .

  • POSTED BY cricket_ahan on | November 24, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    Motor mouth Warner at it again. Trott's dismissal was soft no doubt, but to publicly call out an opposition player as 'weak' is pretty poor form. Clarke and many past Australian captains and players have lauded the mantra of banter and sledging being acceptable if it stays on field and in the dressing room. Clearly the message is not getting to the current crop of players, of which Warner is a frequent offender. Adding to the stupidity of this specific comment is the fact that Trott still has a career average over 50, and is a regular member of his side. Warner has barely been able to hold his spot, and is nowhere near a proven test player yet. Poor form - grow up Aussie team!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | November 24, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    For a moment I thought Warner had come good, but the stupidity & arrogance that have dragged down his career were on full display here. Australia put in a great performance and soundly whipped England and all Warner can come up with is this garbage. Australia's celebrations marred by the man who cannot learn to shut his mouth.

  • POSTED BY Robster1 on | November 24, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    Trott had a similar problem on England's last tour of South Africa, when Steyn, Morkel and co got to him mentally with the short, quick delivery.

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | November 24, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    But daveyboy, is it as weak as taking a "swing & a miss" at an England batsman who looks about 14 years old?

  • POSTED BY Jaffa79 on | November 24, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    Well Warner has a point lets be honest! However, he is either brave or stupid to crow so early in a series. Warner is a brainless cricketer who just stands and delivers; we have all seen him give it away so many times. He is just running his mouth off, which for Australians is standard practice. Trott averages near 50 and Warner has spent his career languishing in the low 30s. Come back and talk once you have scored Test hundreds around the world like Trott.

  • POSTED BY Arrow011 on | November 24, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    England is known for playing most boring cricket, despite their super success as a test team in the last few years they are still boring. The only exception is KP, who is a thorough match winner in every condition, the Aussies are never boring but lack star players in their team. Warner is the only rising star in the team & he should be given freedom in talking to the press also. Warner can demolish attacks if he is persisted the way Sehwag was persisted with by the Indians as an opener. Warner is a match winner, an excellent fielder & it is time Clarke uses his leg spinners more.

  • POSTED BY Skott on | November 24, 2013, 9:59 GMT

    @Easygoing.Joe Warner actually has 4 test hundreds. 2 at better than a run a ball and another one he carried his bat. Anyway, he's playing for Australia, I think that makes him an expert.

  • POSTED BY Liquefierrrr on | November 24, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Warner hit the nail on the head here.

    And while we are on the subject of those who perform at home, Anderson bowls at 38 in Aus and Swann at 47.

    Warner blazed the allegedly 'world class' bowling attack to all parts yesterday in a clinical display of sheer brutality.

    Not only that, he's dead right about Trott, who will be having nightmares long after this due to his hypersensitive personality and also the fact he's averaged 36 for the last half of his career.

    Good on you Warner, keep telling it like it is mate, England absolutely pounded.

  • POSTED BY wonderstar1 on | November 24, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    @FFL Welcome back my friend and old pal. Hope you have enjoyed the thrashing from Johnson and Co. yes, when Home track bully like Anderson can be called great, warner was withih his rights to tell whatever he may want. Instead of criticizing warner you should look how your overrated batsmen are going to handle to Johnson .

  • POSTED BY Easygoing.Joe on | November 24, 2013, 8:59 GMT

    Scores his 1st test hundred and thinks he's the expert! He'd make a better clown than a cricketer..

  • POSTED BY foozball on | November 24, 2013, 8:56 GMT

    @Baldo1, the problem with comparing between this start and others is the manner of the collapses - 4 wickets for not very much, both times around. And of course the margin of the victory... england are lucky there's some time between now and adelaide, quite frankly.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | November 24, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    GRVPR; Your comment was he cant handle the pace of the SOuth Afircans - look at the recent test in Australia and South Africa - you were clearly wrong admit it. A flash in the pan performance averaging over 50 in tests for almost 8000 runs I would like to know, if Clarke is a flash in the pan is there a world cricketer who is not?

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | November 24, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    @Baldo1. Just for your memory, England lost 5-0 2 tours ago, that was over 5 tests too.

  • POSTED BY on | November 24, 2013, 8:05 GMT

    Warner should know it is a test series, not a 2 day match. What's the point in poking others when his own team hasn't shown proof of consistent good performances yet!

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | November 24, 2013, 3:42 GMT

    Baldo1; You have to be kiddign Warner is superior to Carberry, Haddin to Prior, Johnson would be picked as the third bowler and the spinner a toss of the coin.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | November 24, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    Warnr talking about weak technique - This coming from the player who lacks any kind of technique for conditions outside of Australia. This is just more moaning from the usual suspect.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | November 24, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    @Shaggy076 I don't know why people rate flash in the pan performances too much. Michales clarke did well on that one tour but don't tell me he is not vulnerable against short pitch bowling. It is like that flash in the pan 200 from lara in Australia. Seriously there have been more solid and confident players around the world.

  • POSTED BY Baldo1 on | November 24, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    Over a 5-test series the best team always wins. England are man-for-man by far the best team. The only Australian players who would get into England's team are Harris and Clarke. England have started batting abysmally as they always seem to do abroad. Anyone remember the series in india? We got stuffed in the 1st test there and I don't remember us losing 4-0 or anyone else apart from us (including South Africa) winning over there. It's good for cricket that the Aussies are making this series competitive after getting absolutely annihilated in the last 2 series (6-1) with the same team / a better team in 2010 / 2011. Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney to come - let us see how big Swanny's smile is in Sydney when he retires as the winner of 4 ashes series in a row. Get your money on England to win the series - there has never been a better bet in cricket.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | November 23, 2013, 23:30 GMT

    GRVJPR; You might want to check the stats of the South African series before making your statements. He was the highest run scorer in both the home and away series. In 5 tests there was 2 double centuries and a 150 on a treaturous pitch where SOuth Africa were bowled out for 90 followed by 43 to Australia. In the latest 5 tests his average I think was over 100. Yes great call from you.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | November 23, 2013, 23:06 GMT

    Warner please no need to state the obvious in public as it can only add fuel to Trottt to overcome it. The English know its weak the world knows its weak so I'm not sure what advantage we can get by stating it in the media.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 23, 2013, 22:26 GMT

    Well whilst I thik Warner was right - he should not say anything until he irons those kinks out of his game. I recall a certain "weak" shot he played in the 1st innings during a difficult period for Oz.

  • POSTED BY crickeymate on | November 23, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    As an Australia supporter I believe warner should shut up. You don't kick a man when he's down. Even though we have all seen what kind of feeling there is between some players when a wicket falls. If trott is scared then knowing this should be enough.

  • POSTED BY njr1330 on | November 23, 2013, 21:46 GMT

    'Pretty Weak' ....Just like your right hook then, Mr. Warner!

  • POSTED BY Moppa on | November 23, 2013, 21:46 GMT

    Agree with those saying that Warner should tone it down and not give the Poms too much ammunition. On a broader topic, I think the interesting thing in this Test is how batsmen with that horrible modern habit, the "forward press", have been found out. Trott is the obvious example, but Clarke in the first innings and Watson's butchered "pull shot" in the second are also examples of how on a pitch with just a little bit more life batsmen weren't getting away with tricks that modern bats and flat tracks have allowed them to get away with far too often. It was refreshing to see Clarke play something resembling a pull shot in the second innings - the old cricket coaching books I read as a kid aren't passe just yet!

  • POSTED BY S.Jagernath on | November 23, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    Amazing how David Warner did not refer to the Australian batsmen in India as "pretty weak".A few runs & he has all but forgotten their issues away from home.Michael Clarke is typical of that,averaging 64 at home but just 42 away from Australia!

  • POSTED BY inthebag on | November 23, 2013, 21:11 GMT

    These comments are clearly tactical, why save them for the end of the test, or the series, when they are designed to have an impact right now. The poms will hear this and, all but Broad, believe every word. Tell them they've got something to fear and they will. It's the Warne factor all over again.

  • POSTED BY Whispering_Holding on | November 23, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    I wonder if it is the angle from Mitch more than the short ball itself? Either way, nice to see Trott and the English arrogance over the last year finally replaced with something else. Now if only their media could also be taught a lesson.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on | November 23, 2013, 20:51 GMT

    Why would Warner be so complimentary? Trott was worse than weak, he is a shell of a player who may never recover from this. A walking wicket at 3 is fantastic, please keep selecting him.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | November 23, 2013, 20:42 GMT

    Haha...warners playing mind games now...pressurizing trott even more...good job warner..

  • POSTED BY Mr.PotatoesTomatoes on | November 23, 2013, 19:53 GMT

    @Masking Tape- That's where the Aussies have been splendid in this game, and even during the summer in England with Trott.They have been able to execute their plans against him.While other teams no doubt had tested him earlier with short stuff, none had persisted with a straightish, middle and leg line only (an area that is his strength but is fast turning to be his weakness as he feels compelled to feel bat on ball to anything straying down),with the short and rising delivery thrown his way every now and then for too long. While other teams had only used bouncers to check Trott's weakness against the rising ball and relented in their efforts after he didn't seem much perturbed,the Aussies have seen this as a definite weakness and have given him no breathing space.With a bullish veteran in Harris and a fiery and more important in rhythm Mitchell Johnson, Australia have just the sort of pace and control to trouble Trott and make him bat out of his comfort zone for longish spells.

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 18:56 GMT

    The side that is ahead always makes a lot of noise. Partly its to rattle the opposition even more, making way for a easy win. I can understand where Warne is coming from. Also he has a right to brag, having scored a ton. English batting has been too brittle; Aussie pace just awesome. That's always a deadly combination. U r sure to find the field littered with bodies - in this case, of the poor Redcoats. I am sorry, but they are toast in this test.

  • POSTED BY Masking_Tape on | November 23, 2013, 18:05 GMT

    If Trott has been "found out" why does it take for teams around the world for so long to do that?

  • POSTED BY opto_pus on | November 23, 2013, 17:43 GMT

    Jonathan Trott is not English he is a South African who wasn't good enough for there team and can't face any fast bowling thats short pitched. He has been found outt and is pretending it will go away the fact of the matter is hes been rumbled by the Aussies and all the test teams he plays they should bowl everything to him above waist high also the ICC should relax the 2 bouncers per over to 3 bouncers per over to bring excitement back into test cricket otherwise test cricket has second string dobblers like Trott pretending to be good test players like an his teams South Africa Under-15s, South Africa Under-19s, http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/player/47623.html Trott is a second string Saffer whom should not be playing for England when second string saffers like Allen lamb and Trott get found out to good fast bowling its always the oppositions fault for not playing to their strengths and making life easy for them. In my opinion Trotts test career looks done

  • POSTED BY blink182alex on | November 23, 2013, 17:23 GMT

    It's great that we are in this position, but lets start rubbing their face in it after we win the series, not when we are closing in on victory in the 1st test. Still a long way to go here, Cook looks camped in an might produce a marathon innings. Warner should just enjoy his century today and focus on himself, rather than downing Trott who has a better record than him.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | November 23, 2013, 17:22 GMT

    Trott was always a sitting duck. But one should not forget Michael Clarke as well. He might have got a 100 toady on a real flat road track but we have all seen hime being worked over by Steyn and company. Also some 4 yrs ago at Mohali he couldn't stand up against Ishant Sharma and got our to a short ball playing it really awkwardly.

  • POSTED BY Big_Maxy_Walker on | November 23, 2013, 16:14 GMT

    Typical of this Aussie side, haven't even won one test yet. And lost many in a row. Yet they are talking big and giving England more ammunition. Warner as always is not that bright and has a big mouth. I think the media minders ought to put a ban on him doing interviews for the rest of the Ashes. Always puts his foot in it. England have far too good a batting lineup not to come good. No good giving them extra incentive.

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    While David Warner is entitled to air his views and atm he seems to be right, it will be wise for him to not to rush to any conclusions even before they have won the first Test. Even if it is not the poms the weather (predicted rain for Sunday( may change everything in a jiffy. Eng knows more about living with rain that any other cricketing nation can even know! Then there is the wisdom of the old 'Tiger' O'Reilley who had cautioned "The goose is not cooked until it is eaten". And as England showed in India they can always regroup after an initial drubbing. Another 22 days of Test cricket is there to play. It may not just be Trott but even Warner may need a new set of sledges if things turn out bad in Adelaide or Perth. but in the short run Warner may enjoy himself on the rare dominance that ozs have stablished by today (Sat evening) :P

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    Appears 'electric-loco-WAP4 ' has really gone 'loco' -Cook,Peterson, Bell, Trott(shouldn't be written off after just 2 innings) are far ahead of all Aussie batsmen barring Michael Clarke. Public memory is indeed short.

  • POSTED BY tendlya on | November 23, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    Normally I don't pay attention to statements like the one Warner made about Trott because players mostly make them when they are "hiding behind a win". In this case however I have to agree that Trott did look very tentative and almost scared in the 2nd innings. Just a few balls before he got out he hit a skier and luckily for him it landed between 2 fielders. I was surprised seeing Trott play such a shot. The shot he played to get out was incredulous and so un-Trott like! His dismissal and his entire 2nd innings was indeed "pretty weak".

  • POSTED BY android_user on | November 23, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Glad to see that the test match is going in Australia's favour. But they should not get ahead of themselves. They are the under prepared batting line up in this series. Watson is a serious liability for 1 down, PERIOD. If you want proof compare him with other 1 down batsmen in Test cricket history. Dravid, Sangakara, Trott (minus this chink in his armour), Ponting, Amla and Younis. Comparing Faulkner with a Watson batting at number 3 is comparing apples and oranges. Even Ponting said this indirectly, your number 3 should be the best batsman in the team (atleast he should bat long). As it is, he should be competing with Steve Smith in the team. Test focussed seniors like North, Katich should definitely get a look at number 3. On a comeback perspective, well played David Warner. CA should have made Watson play shield cricket too instead of touring India.

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    Although I am enjoying the thrashing the poms are getting at Brisbane I just can't help but laugh at Warner's' comments, the guy who couldn't play a turning ball eight months back in India saying this is getting too ahead of him ....yes england are undone by serious pace but these comments would have looked good had australia been 3-0 up in the series and not when the ashes has just started

  • POSTED BY Batmanian on | November 23, 2013, 14:12 GMT

    I don't mind Warner having a bit of a niggle at the Poms in the media - it's one aspect of a whole suite of things Australia has to get mostly right to beat this strong England team. Over the series, Australia's bowling stocks are vulnerable, the old guard being rather, well, old and the young talent injury prone. Lyon needs to keep his confidence up. The team was totally outclassed in India and not quite mentally strong enough to run England closer. Team looks a lot better carrying Smith and Bailey's good cricket brains down the order than praying for Hughes and Khawaja to mature towards the top.

    It's important to crow a bit when on top, get a couple of wins on the board and rebuild. Of course it looks silly when things go pear-shaped (eg all that nonsense about Broad being unsportsmanlike) , but things haven't fallen apart yet. Well done Warner.

  • POSTED BY Mr.PotatoesTomatoes on | November 23, 2013, 13:57 GMT

    The Aussies owe their success till now in the test match to proper planning and great execution. It has showed in how their bowlers have combined as a unit, and bowled with discipline to well-laid out plans. They spotted deficiencies in English batters and have glaringly exposed them.Trott is a compulsive puller and loves to put bat on ball sprayed down the leg side,and has found it difficult to control his instincts.With Cook they have given nothing away.Cook is someone who prefers to leave most of the time,happy only to score when the ball is there to be either driven or cut.The Australian bowlers have rarely fed him those lengths,and have been able to play with his patience.Lyon has bowled round the stumps which is a restrictive line to England's middle order packed with right-handers, and they have found it difficult to get him away.And with Johnson in the side they now have the raw pace to unsettle a batting unit that hasn't faced any stern short-pitched examination in a long time

  • POSTED BY Satyendra1 on | November 23, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    I am from India and have to admit its been absolutely fascinating to watch the way Aussies have played this game. The sheer aggression in their bowling and batting in the second innings was as refreshing to watch as it could be after having seen them struggle over the last two years or so. Having said that, would love to see England take the fight to the Aussies. They seem underprepared perhaps in overconfidence as the Aussies didn't turn up in England !!

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    As a neutral cant help but feel the Aussies are getting a little ahead of themselves, reminds me a bit of the England sides of yester-year who started to talk big after a decent start in an ashes series. Im enjoying seeing the Poms get pasted but don't get ahead of yourselves just focus on winning each match as theres still a lot of cricket to be played

  • POSTED BY Llik2 on | November 23, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    Is this the same aus side lost 3-0, 4-0 to eng nd ind?it seems they proved alot.now england know the result of underestimating a homeside.

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    As an Aussie fan, I'm thoroughly enjoying the pasting being given out at the moment by the Aussie bowlers. However, I wouldn't be making serious predictions at this stage. The Poms haven't not lost in 11 Tests for a reason, and their good batting is just one of those reasons. KP is still in, and with him around, worry signs should be coming up for Australia. They still have Bell to come who we all know can bat and bat and bat, and a young, full of it Joe Root. Let's focus on winning this game first and concentrate on Adelaide after this Test match.

  • POSTED BY Rahul_78 on | November 23, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Making big statements about Trott is alright but Warner would do well not to poke the two guys at the creeze, KP and Cook. It might just come back to bite him and his team. Last thing Aussies want is a riled up KP and wounded Cook for rest of the series. Its better to be quite and go about your business. You are up in the 1st test and havent won it. You are winning after long time and there are 4 more tests to go. Cricket has a funny habit of evening things up.

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | November 23, 2013, 12:34 GMT

    Like most other countries Aussies are tigers in their home conditions and environment.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | November 23, 2013, 12:28 GMT

    I think english batsmen underestimated auses bowlers.but now they should pay price to Australia as 1-0 lead

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | November 23, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @SamRoy:-First of all I like George Bailey. I like his old school desire and his leadership skills, and I've really hoped this experiment would work, but the first round hasn't been all that encouraging. Would be tough to drop him after only one game, and at his age that drop could end up being terminal so rightly or not I'd give him another game. Rogers did enough in England to deserve another too in my estimation, and Watson with his last test ton in England will survive as well. With this game looking like a big win the impetus for change just won't be there, which isn't to say I don't agree with your assessment. If we had lost/do lose I'd bite the bullet and have Watson out for Faulkner. He's gives you a full bowler and would likely score as many as an dodgy looking Watson. The other two would be on a short piece of rope. The most bang for your buck replacement atm would probably be Marcus North but as much as I like him that would be a retrograde move. Has to be a young'un.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | November 23, 2013, 12:13 GMT

    I don't agree that England doesn't have a good batting lineup. Cook, KP, Bell are three of the best. Short memories! It was England I believe who batted two days 3 years ago to save the brissie test. Of course we didn't have Mitch on fire or Lyon in the side.

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 11:53 GMT

    'England has no batsmen anyway near the class, calibre & talent of Warner, let alone Clarke'? I'll give you Clarke's a good player, & Warner may be, but that statement is utter rubbish at the moment. Good innings & Australia are all over England like a rash, deservedly so as well, after two superb days for them. Lets not forget that for some god unknown reason probably to do with complacency as I can't see them being underprepared, Englands record in first test's isn't great yet they usually find a way back. If Australia win it's a good result for the series but England will come back strong & it was always going to be tight in Australia. I'd agree Trott looks in trouble & Johnson looks on fire, & as soon as his confidence was up after batting he was always going to be good. Australia need Johnson, Haddin & Bailey to bat well IMO, as there batting is poor. Without the first two they'd have been blown away, but they did have them & they dug them out well. Fair play

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | November 23, 2013, 11:16 GMT

    Absolutely right what Warner has said. Thing is Eng has no batsman anywhere near the class,talent and calibre of Warner let alone a Michael Clarke . Having said that ,Warner's inngs was easily the best played in this year in all forms by any young bat from any team . Can't compare with seasoned and class acts like Clarke who has far no. of even better inngs. to his name this year. His batting is a good lesson for the struggling Eng lineup . It must be said though that Warner had a very pedestrian of bowling of Eng and he made the most of it ,making it count unlike no. of times past when he threw it away with bowling in his control and he just had to make it big . On other hang Eng are up against the best pace attack in the world ,and some 1 named Mitch of course who's got them hop left , right , before sending them on their way for not much .

  • POSTED BY GluteusGale on | November 23, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    Both teams have awful number 3 batsmen at the moment.

  • POSTED BY SamRoy on | November 23, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    True @Biggus, Warner still needs to say intelligent things. It was a mistake by Australian Team to allow him a press conference. It should have been Haddin, a much more down to earth guy. Anyway, @Biggus don't you think Australia still has plenty of headaches with its batting, one obvious one is Faulkner for Watson. I want Maddinson for either Bailey or Rogers. In fact all the 3 Watson, Bailey and Rogers are dispensable!!!

  • POSTED BY vishalthakkar22 on | November 23, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    david warner played so well but has started to look ahead, which is not a wise thing to do. the first thing for Aus is to win this test match and prove to themselves that they are in serious business in this series especially after their losses in England and India.

  • POSTED BY wonderstar1 on | November 23, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    you can only laugh at Trotts technique and the poms who always over hype this bog average cricketer. He also struggles against spin. Hi weakness is spotted and poms must realize that he is a mediocre cricketer and they have a serious problem in their hands with trott batting at No.3. They also cant push him down the order as he is not a good player of spin as well. proof is that he averaged very low in India last year except for that one hundred and got more than one zero in that series vs Spin bowling.

  • POSTED BY FRpunk on | November 23, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    Mitch was on fire today . great to see him bowl fast . and also its a pleasing site to see trott struggling for each and every run , i remember he once charged down the pitch and hit a dead ball which flew out of jadeja`s hand for 4 . cricket is such a great leveler . Its important for australia to bundle out england cheaply in this innings because if they bat long then they will regain the confidence for the rest of the series . i remember in ahemadabad Test they batted well in their 2nd innings and from there on they went on to win a historic test series in india .

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | November 23, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    Oh Dave, I really wish you hadn't said that. You were doing so well for a while there, and there's little point in stating the obvious.

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  • POSTED BY Biggus on | November 23, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    Oh Dave, I really wish you hadn't said that. You were doing so well for a while there, and there's little point in stating the obvious.

  • POSTED BY FRpunk on | November 23, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    Mitch was on fire today . great to see him bowl fast . and also its a pleasing site to see trott struggling for each and every run , i remember he once charged down the pitch and hit a dead ball which flew out of jadeja`s hand for 4 . cricket is such a great leveler . Its important for australia to bundle out england cheaply in this innings because if they bat long then they will regain the confidence for the rest of the series . i remember in ahemadabad Test they batted well in their 2nd innings and from there on they went on to win a historic test series in india .

  • POSTED BY wonderstar1 on | November 23, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    you can only laugh at Trotts technique and the poms who always over hype this bog average cricketer. He also struggles against spin. Hi weakness is spotted and poms must realize that he is a mediocre cricketer and they have a serious problem in their hands with trott batting at No.3. They also cant push him down the order as he is not a good player of spin as well. proof is that he averaged very low in India last year except for that one hundred and got more than one zero in that series vs Spin bowling.

  • POSTED BY vishalthakkar22 on | November 23, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    david warner played so well but has started to look ahead, which is not a wise thing to do. the first thing for Aus is to win this test match and prove to themselves that they are in serious business in this series especially after their losses in England and India.

  • POSTED BY SamRoy on | November 23, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    True @Biggus, Warner still needs to say intelligent things. It was a mistake by Australian Team to allow him a press conference. It should have been Haddin, a much more down to earth guy. Anyway, @Biggus don't you think Australia still has plenty of headaches with its batting, one obvious one is Faulkner for Watson. I want Maddinson for either Bailey or Rogers. In fact all the 3 Watson, Bailey and Rogers are dispensable!!!

  • POSTED BY GluteusGale on | November 23, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    Both teams have awful number 3 batsmen at the moment.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | November 23, 2013, 11:16 GMT

    Absolutely right what Warner has said. Thing is Eng has no batsman anywhere near the class,talent and calibre of Warner let alone a Michael Clarke . Having said that ,Warner's inngs was easily the best played in this year in all forms by any young bat from any team . Can't compare with seasoned and class acts like Clarke who has far no. of even better inngs. to his name this year. His batting is a good lesson for the struggling Eng lineup . It must be said though that Warner had a very pedestrian of bowling of Eng and he made the most of it ,making it count unlike no. of times past when he threw it away with bowling in his control and he just had to make it big . On other hang Eng are up against the best pace attack in the world ,and some 1 named Mitch of course who's got them hop left , right , before sending them on their way for not much .

  • POSTED BY on | November 23, 2013, 11:53 GMT

    'England has no batsmen anyway near the class, calibre & talent of Warner, let alone Clarke'? I'll give you Clarke's a good player, & Warner may be, but that statement is utter rubbish at the moment. Good innings & Australia are all over England like a rash, deservedly so as well, after two superb days for them. Lets not forget that for some god unknown reason probably to do with complacency as I can't see them being underprepared, Englands record in first test's isn't great yet they usually find a way back. If Australia win it's a good result for the series but England will come back strong & it was always going to be tight in Australia. I'd agree Trott looks in trouble & Johnson looks on fire, & as soon as his confidence was up after batting he was always going to be good. Australia need Johnson, Haddin & Bailey to bat well IMO, as there batting is poor. Without the first two they'd have been blown away, but they did have them & they dug them out well. Fair play

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | November 23, 2013, 12:13 GMT

    I don't agree that England doesn't have a good batting lineup. Cook, KP, Bell are three of the best. Short memories! It was England I believe who batted two days 3 years ago to save the brissie test. Of course we didn't have Mitch on fire or Lyon in the side.

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | November 23, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @SamRoy:-First of all I like George Bailey. I like his old school desire and his leadership skills, and I've really hoped this experiment would work, but the first round hasn't been all that encouraging. Would be tough to drop him after only one game, and at his age that drop could end up being terminal so rightly or not I'd give him another game. Rogers did enough in England to deserve another too in my estimation, and Watson with his last test ton in England will survive as well. With this game looking like a big win the impetus for change just won't be there, which isn't to say I don't agree with your assessment. If we had lost/do lose I'd bite the bullet and have Watson out for Faulkner. He's gives you a full bowler and would likely score as many as an dodgy looking Watson. The other two would be on a short piece of rope. The most bang for your buck replacement atm would probably be Marcus North but as much as I like him that would be a retrograde move. Has to be a young'un.