The Investec Ashes 2013 June 20, 2013

Arthur rues Warner naivety in bar incident

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Australia's coach, Mickey Arthur, has warned his side to be "street smart" to prevent the English media and the ECB having a field day during the Investec Ashes series after the incident in which David Warner was pilloried for a fracas with the England batsman Joe Root in a Birmingham bar.

Warner's punch was described as a "despicable thing" by the Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland, but it is becoming increasingly clear that it was viewed in less condemnatory terms by the Australian touring party - Arthur among them.

While acknowledging the decision of a group of players to be out late drinking in the aftermath of their Champions Trophy defeat by England was a case of "obviously poor judgement", Arthur suggested the episode also served as a reminder that the tourists needed to be wary of their hosts stealing every possible advantage.

News that Warner would be answerable to a CA code of conduct hearing for his punch aimed at the England batsman Joe Root was pre-empted by an ECB statement which referred to an "unprovoked physical attack" on one of their players.

When asked about the ECB statement, Arthur said it was a case of the Australians being outsmarted in enemy territory.

"Yeah look, that's part and parcel of touring England," Arthur told ABC Radio. "You've got to be very street smart, you've got to be on your game and if you don't the media and the ECB will have a field day with you. We've got to be smarter, make sure we make the right decisions. Unfortunately some guys are learning the hard way, but you hope that they'll get better for it.

"It was obviously poor judgement and you hope they don't go down that line again. We keep chipping away every day about what the responsibility of playing for Australia is, what the standards are of this team. We want the Australian badge to be a brand in world cricket, and some of the players have learned the hard way. But I'm 100% certain we're going in the right direction."

Sutherland's excoriation of Warner following a code of conduct hearing that suspended him from playing until the first Ashes Test at Nottingham left few in doubt about his expectations of the Australian team overseas, but there has been a reluctance to follow that hard line among the tour party.

Arthur and the national selector John Inverarity have spoken warmly of Warner's chances of being chosen for Trent Bridge, while the captain Michael Clarke has lauded his training ethic.

Whether or not Shane Watson's rumoured objection to the delay in punishing Warner is to be believed, the tour management now seem more intent on nurturing the young players under their care than meting out the sort of punitive justice seen in India.

"What we've got to realise is the team's changed considerably, it's a team of young, good cricketers at the moment," Arthur said. "We've got to give them guidance, we've got to give them direction and make sure they get better and better.

"We are going to get a bit of ill-judgement and some players are going to learn the hard way, but those are our best players, we've got to back them in, we've got to make them better and turn them from good to great."

Clarke, speaking at CA's promotion for the launch of ticket sales for the 2013-14 Ashes series in Australia that will follow the matches in England, sidestepped a question about how unified the team was entering the Test match portion of the summer.

"The group obviously comes together on Monday," he said. "At this stage we've got the Aussie A guys starting a three-dayer in Bristol on Friday, so a few of the guys are down there, and we have seven of the Test squad here in London.

"I've played a lot with the group that are here for the Ashes and I think the group's fantastic. We've got some great experience in this group, a good mixture of youth and experience, and I know the boys are looking forward to getting together on Monday."

More convincing was Clarke's assurance that his back was progressing after the flare-up that kept him out of the Champions Trophy. Following a morning training session in Hampstead, Clarke showed his improving flexibility by walking back part of the way from Tower Bridge to the team hotel in Kensington - the better to avoid London traffic at peak hour.

He said that Alex Kountouris, the Australian physio, was very positive that he was improving daily. "My back's feeling better at the moment, there's still obviously a few days before that first practice game down in Taunton, but if all goes to plan I'll be playing in that game," he said.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • jmcilhinney on June 21, 2013, 0:10 GMT

    Warner has been handed his punishment but he's still part of the squad and may well find himself playing at some point during the series, so it makes sense that they now look to rehabilitation and reconciliation. That said, I hope that they're not treating this incident as lightly as it appears within the touring party. To suggest that Warner was outsmarted by Root or England somehow and induced into taking action that could then be used against him is rather pathetic. I certainly don't know all the details of the incident but, whatever else, Warner out and out did the wrong thing. That behaviour is not acceptable at any time but certainly not under the circumstances. Many people are playing it down because no real damage was done but that's hardly the point. It's only pure luck that things didn't turn out far worse.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 22, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Warner was supposed to be the next captain. Now both he and Watson are not in the picture over captaincy, when Clarke's back keeps him out of the side, who really is ready to step into Clarke's shoes? Aussies in absolute shambles.

  • zenboomerang on June 22, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding :- "thats the story that is is being banded about by the Aussie media"...

    Actually no. Its what I read from the Telegraph in London & Sports24 in S.A. - haven't read anything like that in the Oz media - ABC... Its what came out the next morning - usually the first report is closer to the truth than what gets dragged out days later...

    @gwd80... It you took the time to read my comm, I stated twice that I didn't defend Warner at all & felt disgust at the whole episode - having said that, the players have taken the episode much better than many of the press & fans have... Perhaps then xenophobia that is directed at Oz regularly is being highlighted by these recent events?...

  • ARad on June 21, 2013, 20:58 GMT

    I can understand Mickey Arthur wanting Warner to be smart. I don't see why it has anything to do with ECB and the media having a field day. If you do something that is not smart, do not try to use the response to take a dig at opposition's board or the media. If Warner indulged in an 'unprovoked physical attack', why is it wrong to describe it in that manner? If I were Cricket Australia's CEO, I would ask Mickey Arthur to write down three things he would do to improve the conduct of his players and three things he would do to improve his own ability to accept responsibility without trying to blame it on others.

  • SuperSharky on June 21, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    Me as a Zaffer, can't understand how Australia can hold out with Mickey Arthur as their Head coach. Don't get me wrong, I've got lots of respect for Mickeys' brain and tactics and he is a brilliant annalist, I will forever be thankful for the way he took the Proteas out of the mud and brought them to a Test Series win Down Under, but he should be no-more than an assistant-coach for Australia. Mickey, as an assistant, should only talk to the Head coach and the head coach must correspond with the players. Ex Australian Union Rugby coach & brilliant rugby annalist, Eddie Jones, was Jake White's assistant coach when the Springboks won the 2007 Rugby World Cup. Mickey Arthur should only go as high up the ranks in Australia as Eddie did with the Springboks. I was really disappointed when Graeme Smith worked out the tough Ray Jennings for the easy Mickey. Maybe it's just me, but Mickey sounds too much like your buddy or your mate, not your respectful Head Coach. First change Mickey to Mick!

  • brusselslion on June 21, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    I thought we (Brits) were meant to be the whingers?

  • Beertjie on June 21, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    There's no point in over-hyping the Warner incident anymore than there is in attempting to ignore it. Agree entirely @ CoverDrive888 on (June 21, 2013, 8:25 GMT) about the in-crowd. How long will they persist with guys like Warner, Hughes and Cowan? If they fail, you have to keep trying at least most of them because there's only one extra batter. Then on a flat deck at the Oval they score runs in an inconsequential match and they're retained for Ashes II. Now that's something to get upset about!

  • Charlie101 on June 21, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    I do not have any great love for our press however both the ECB and our press would have handled the Warner incident in exactly the same way if Root had done the punching . You would have seen condemnation from the ECB plus a much more lenghty ban and plenty from our press - remember how they have covered Fredie in the past with the pedalo etc.

  • gwd80 on June 21, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (June 21, 2013, 6:38 GMT) as has been pointed out already - that's not what happened so there is no justification. Even if that's what Root had been doing with the wig (which it wasn't), how is Warner hitting him a justifiable response?

    When the player himself has already accepted full responsibility for behaving badly, it seems desperate for the coach to come out with this guff now. James Sutherland didn't seem to think it was the ECB stirring things up when his voice was shaking with rage during his press conference in response to all this!

    I don't

  • ToneMalone on June 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    Sure Micky: you need to be street smart with the media, and even official bodies like the ECB. Goes without saying. But the no.1 takeaway from Warner punching Root should still be "don't punch other people". If being "street smart" with the media & ECB is now seen among the squad as the lesson from this incident, then the mistake is bound to be repeated, one way or another.

  • jmcilhinney on June 21, 2013, 0:10 GMT

    Warner has been handed his punishment but he's still part of the squad and may well find himself playing at some point during the series, so it makes sense that they now look to rehabilitation and reconciliation. That said, I hope that they're not treating this incident as lightly as it appears within the touring party. To suggest that Warner was outsmarted by Root or England somehow and induced into taking action that could then be used against him is rather pathetic. I certainly don't know all the details of the incident but, whatever else, Warner out and out did the wrong thing. That behaviour is not acceptable at any time but certainly not under the circumstances. Many people are playing it down because no real damage was done but that's hardly the point. It's only pure luck that things didn't turn out far worse.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 22, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Warner was supposed to be the next captain. Now both he and Watson are not in the picture over captaincy, when Clarke's back keeps him out of the side, who really is ready to step into Clarke's shoes? Aussies in absolute shambles.

  • zenboomerang on June 22, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding :- "thats the story that is is being banded about by the Aussie media"...

    Actually no. Its what I read from the Telegraph in London & Sports24 in S.A. - haven't read anything like that in the Oz media - ABC... Its what came out the next morning - usually the first report is closer to the truth than what gets dragged out days later...

    @gwd80... It you took the time to read my comm, I stated twice that I didn't defend Warner at all & felt disgust at the whole episode - having said that, the players have taken the episode much better than many of the press & fans have... Perhaps then xenophobia that is directed at Oz regularly is being highlighted by these recent events?...

  • ARad on June 21, 2013, 20:58 GMT

    I can understand Mickey Arthur wanting Warner to be smart. I don't see why it has anything to do with ECB and the media having a field day. If you do something that is not smart, do not try to use the response to take a dig at opposition's board or the media. If Warner indulged in an 'unprovoked physical attack', why is it wrong to describe it in that manner? If I were Cricket Australia's CEO, I would ask Mickey Arthur to write down three things he would do to improve the conduct of his players and three things he would do to improve his own ability to accept responsibility without trying to blame it on others.

  • SuperSharky on June 21, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    Me as a Zaffer, can't understand how Australia can hold out with Mickey Arthur as their Head coach. Don't get me wrong, I've got lots of respect for Mickeys' brain and tactics and he is a brilliant annalist, I will forever be thankful for the way he took the Proteas out of the mud and brought them to a Test Series win Down Under, but he should be no-more than an assistant-coach for Australia. Mickey, as an assistant, should only talk to the Head coach and the head coach must correspond with the players. Ex Australian Union Rugby coach & brilliant rugby annalist, Eddie Jones, was Jake White's assistant coach when the Springboks won the 2007 Rugby World Cup. Mickey Arthur should only go as high up the ranks in Australia as Eddie did with the Springboks. I was really disappointed when Graeme Smith worked out the tough Ray Jennings for the easy Mickey. Maybe it's just me, but Mickey sounds too much like your buddy or your mate, not your respectful Head Coach. First change Mickey to Mick!

  • brusselslion on June 21, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    I thought we (Brits) were meant to be the whingers?

  • Beertjie on June 21, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    There's no point in over-hyping the Warner incident anymore than there is in attempting to ignore it. Agree entirely @ CoverDrive888 on (June 21, 2013, 8:25 GMT) about the in-crowd. How long will they persist with guys like Warner, Hughes and Cowan? If they fail, you have to keep trying at least most of them because there's only one extra batter. Then on a flat deck at the Oval they score runs in an inconsequential match and they're retained for Ashes II. Now that's something to get upset about!

  • Charlie101 on June 21, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    I do not have any great love for our press however both the ECB and our press would have handled the Warner incident in exactly the same way if Root had done the punching . You would have seen condemnation from the ECB plus a much more lenghty ban and plenty from our press - remember how they have covered Fredie in the past with the pedalo etc.

  • gwd80 on June 21, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (June 21, 2013, 6:38 GMT) as has been pointed out already - that's not what happened so there is no justification. Even if that's what Root had been doing with the wig (which it wasn't), how is Warner hitting him a justifiable response?

    When the player himself has already accepted full responsibility for behaving badly, it seems desperate for the coach to come out with this guff now. James Sutherland didn't seem to think it was the ECB stirring things up when his voice was shaking with rage during his press conference in response to all this!

    I don't

  • ToneMalone on June 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    Sure Micky: you need to be street smart with the media, and even official bodies like the ECB. Goes without saying. But the no.1 takeaway from Warner punching Root should still be "don't punch other people". If being "street smart" with the media & ECB is now seen among the squad as the lesson from this incident, then the mistake is bound to be repeated, one way or another.

  • TheCricketEmpireStrikesBack on June 21, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    It seems as if England fans are trying to delude themselves that the Ashes are won in the English tabloids and not on the cricket field.

    Aus has a habit of regularly turning up in England with a little known team and unexpectedly winning ever since that match at the Oval in 1882 that spawned the Ashes. This is the reason behind the very comical and increasingly desperate attempts by the English press, fans and the ECB to gain any dodgy but ultimately pointless "advantage".

    As an old campaigner who won in England as SA coach Arthur is offering both wise words to his team and having a good old stir with the opposition. Long may it continue.

  • sirvivfan on June 21, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    Mickey,

    He is right about being street wise when touring England. Just have to ask Pakistan captains who have toured England over years, they had no problem any where else. You almost have to prepare for this more than cricket itself. Warners behaviour must not be condoned but I am pretty sure there is more to this than what we have been told. It is easy to provoke a person like Waner when they have just been beaten. What was Root doing wearing Amla like beard! Poor taste I would say given what is happening!

  • CoverDrive888 on June 21, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    I agree with jmcilhinney. It seems to me that there is a double standard here - Arthur seems to be protecting the team idiot for pretty bad behaviour (twice) but went off the deep end in India over what many regarded as a pretty minor infringement. I can't help think there is an in-crowd which includes Warner while others like Khawaja, who have a different mentality, seem to be less favoured.

  • mikeindex on June 21, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    So as far as Mr Arthur's concerned it's perfectly all right to go around punching people all the time as long as the local press aren't unsporting enough to disapprove. No doubt when the England team are in Australia they'll be set on in bars on a regular basis. Very likely Mr Arthur has already started sparring sessions (and will suspend any of his players who miss one).

  • Jayzuz on June 21, 2013, 8:01 GMT

    @Adoh, while I am no fan of Arthur, he didn't do much wrong before India. So far his bad patch has lasted a couple of months. I hardly think that to be any worse than any other team in world cricket. SL, ENG, IND,NZ, WI etc have all had equal or even much wore runs in recent times. SA is probably the only team that hasn't. So one has to ask, why are there half a dozen stories at a time jammed into cricket sites every time Australia has a bad game or series? It wasn't Arthur's fault that the CT panned out like that. They didn't do much wrong except lose the first game - then rain and NZ's two shortened games meant they were effectively eliminated before a ball was bowled in the SL game. If NZ had lost just one wicket more vs SL, Australia would have been chasing 250 in 50 overs vs SL, not 29, and they would almost certainly have made the semis. Their semi vs NZ was as good as won, IMHO, till rain hit. But that's life. Glad nobody in the team made any excuses. They'll bounce back.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 21, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    @zenboomerang, thats the story that is is being banded about by the Aussie media as some form of 'justification' for Warners reaction.

    By all accounts root and the england lads has some wigs and root was reacting to being teased about a lack of facial hair growth and started larking about putting the wig on his chin to demonstrate a beard, which warner reacted to which cannot be excused.

  • Jayzuz on June 21, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    @jmcilhinney, it is not "pathetic" to challenge the ENG media propaganda over the incident. If you'd bothered to read the eye-witness account, it was a minor incident which was quickly & amicably settled. What Arthur is saying is perfectly consistent with the evidence. But of course many Poms prefer the oh-so-accurate voice of their media. Much of the idea of the disintegration of the team is a media-generated fantasy. Somebody has to set the record straight, & Arthur is as good as anybody.

    If you compare this, to ,say, the way the media handled SL's poor tour of Australia and some of the ill-disciplined behaviour of their captain and some players on the fleld, you start to see how much of a role the media has in creating a veneer of fantasy over "reality". SL lost the test series 3-0 in Australia, following test and ODI losses when AUS toured SL. There was barely a word about the disintegration of the team, no calls for Jayawardene to stand down etc. etc. Some peopple j

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on June 21, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    Perhaps Mickey needs to take some of his own advice re giving the press ammunition. I see his comments that in terms of depth Australia has the best bowling line up in the world and that if they can put England under pressure they may crack as they did against S Africa has been reported as ..... Australia has the best bowling line up in the world and England WILL crack under pressure. Will be glad when the cricket starts personally. Am getting a feeling this A game in Bristol could be a big one (weather permitting). With Warner seemingly sidelined (he cant play Test 1 or 2 with no games surely) I get the feeling that Wade was sent to play as they are considering playing him AND Haddin. And that the talk of Steve Smith as a 'reserve' batsman means that another big score could see him stay with the full Ashes squad. Added to that Ahmed and Agar are bowling off for the 2nd spinner spot.

  • Adoh on June 21, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    Just what exactly, has Micky Arthur achieved with the Australian team? Oh, besides records for opposing teams.

  • zenboomerang on June 21, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    One area that everyone (media included) seems to have completely ignored in the Warner/Root kerfuffle is why was Root wearing an Hashim Amla beard at 2:30am in a bar in which no one else was wearing fancy dress?...

    Perhaps Warner initially took it as an offensive prank & reacted impulsively (not defending his actions) & took a swipe at the beard... My initial reaction to Roots dress was disgust at that kind of behaviour, but compounded by Warners reaction...

  • Partyman on June 21, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    Always believed Arthur to be a mediocre coach who got lucky with South Africa due to the greats in the team. No wonder Smith and his gang wanted to get rid of him. His results with Australia has been downright abysmal. Hey I am not complaining by the way. I am surprised none of the outspoken Aussie greats have called for his head. If only he knew about the English media, he would have known that Fletcher who was was miles ahead of him as a coach was called to step down at every nook and corner when results started evading him. Arthur must consider himself lucky to be in his job. Anywhere else, he would have got the sack by now.

  • Partyman on June 21, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    This interview shows what is all wrong with Aussies. They are incredibly ignorant and looking for excuses, rather than taking a long hard look at themselves. How could he blame ECB and the media when one of your own has behaved like a first grader on a school playground!! At any time Arthur has not condemned Warner since that attack. Wonder what kind of disciplinary code is being followed by the Australian Cricket Team these days. Besides what the England media is doing now is not 1/100th of what the Aussie media does when England is in town. Arthur betrays a massive lack of knowledge and is completely ignorant of the world he lives in. No wonder Aussie Cricketers are behaving in such a despicable and unruly manner.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 21, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Arthur's comments are nothing new, You only have to look at the way the Aussie press have treat previous England touring parties, especially during the 90's when Aus were the ascendant team. The british media is simply returning the compliment.

    Mind you this is also the same micky arthur that claimed the Australian attack was the best in world cricket, completely overlooking the SA pace attack.

  • bobagorof on June 21, 2013, 3:54 GMT

    What an absolute joke. Watson, Pattinson, Khawaja and Johnson were fed to the lions in India despite at least one of the four having a clean record, all four being dropped for a 'line in the sand moment' that was not adequately communicated to the players by management. Warner, who was one of the main culprits of failing to live up to the expectations of management for several months prior to that, has since had 2 indiscretions that have seen him slapped with code-of-conduct fines and a ban from playing - despite this, the tour management has coddled him and 'spoken warmly of Warner's chances of being chosen' for the first Test, regardless of having NO FORM and no warm up matches. So much for the line-in-the-sand. I had previously been a big supporter of Clarke as an on-field captain but this situation, and more specifically the captain and coach's attitudes, have lost me. The team will lose, and lose badly, and they have no-one but themselves to blame.

  • Tjoeps on June 21, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    As a Saffer I think this whole story is very much a storm in a beer glass! Boys will be boys.... The English media will test the Aussies at every corner to try and upset the team spirit and resolve, I think the odds are stacked against the Aussies and it will take something special to win the Ashes back from here.... I hope that it will be a fair contest and that no other of the game stories upset the applecart one way or the other.... Here's to a good series!

  • Un_Citoyen_Indien on June 21, 2013, 2:43 GMT

    The English Media has already scored it's first victory over Australia, thanks to an over zealous and knee-jerk response by Cricket Australia to the whole "Punch-gate" episode.

    As it has slowly emerged, Joe Root may not have been all that non-provocative as was initially assumed to be by the press on both sides (refer to later eyewitness accounts for more information).

    While what he did was unfortunate and avoidable, there's no denying that Warner's a top draw talent and a genuinely likeable bloke (if somewhat impulsive at times - an attribute quite evident in his shot selection as well). It is unwise as well as unfair to lynch him for his error in judgement.

    What's done is now done. Warner still has plenty to offer to Australian, as well as World Cricket.

  • the_blue_android on June 21, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    That's Mr. Arthur's contribution to the Oz team. Be street smart. Do your homework. No excess skin fold measurements. Other than creating a military-like vibe and making players feel insecure, he's not doing anything. He could be worse than Buchanan. He's just making a mickey out of CA( no pun intended). Amazing how a guy who played a 5th fiddle in SA is made the head of everything cricket in CA.

  • Cricket_Froth on June 20, 2013, 22:27 GMT

    It's a true and wise warning M Arthur delivers, but it should have been dispersed and understood by the young Australian team long before we commenced the tour of England. When rumours began circulating about conflict and other issues in the Australian dressing room late 2012, many punters about the traps predicted it would all unravel in England if things weren't resolved by then. It hasn't exactly unravelled, but we haven't played the pre-Test tour matches yet and there's been a few indicators... Let's hope Arthur and the players are on the job now because he's right, the English media and ECB will pounce of everything. Let alone the English fans, who will be one of the biggest challenges the young Australian team will ever face.

  • cloudmess on June 20, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    The English media do like their field days, but - unlike their Aussie counterparts - they tend to dish it out generally where it's deserved. If Australia do well this summer, they will receive no higher praise than from the English press.

  • cloudmess on June 20, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    The English media do like their field days, but - unlike their Aussie counterparts - they tend to dish it out generally where it's deserved. If Australia do well this summer, they will receive no higher praise than from the English press.

  • Cricket_Froth on June 20, 2013, 22:27 GMT

    It's a true and wise warning M Arthur delivers, but it should have been dispersed and understood by the young Australian team long before we commenced the tour of England. When rumours began circulating about conflict and other issues in the Australian dressing room late 2012, many punters about the traps predicted it would all unravel in England if things weren't resolved by then. It hasn't exactly unravelled, but we haven't played the pre-Test tour matches yet and there's been a few indicators... Let's hope Arthur and the players are on the job now because he's right, the English media and ECB will pounce of everything. Let alone the English fans, who will be one of the biggest challenges the young Australian team will ever face.

  • the_blue_android on June 21, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    That's Mr. Arthur's contribution to the Oz team. Be street smart. Do your homework. No excess skin fold measurements. Other than creating a military-like vibe and making players feel insecure, he's not doing anything. He could be worse than Buchanan. He's just making a mickey out of CA( no pun intended). Amazing how a guy who played a 5th fiddle in SA is made the head of everything cricket in CA.

  • Un_Citoyen_Indien on June 21, 2013, 2:43 GMT

    The English Media has already scored it's first victory over Australia, thanks to an over zealous and knee-jerk response by Cricket Australia to the whole "Punch-gate" episode.

    As it has slowly emerged, Joe Root may not have been all that non-provocative as was initially assumed to be by the press on both sides (refer to later eyewitness accounts for more information).

    While what he did was unfortunate and avoidable, there's no denying that Warner's a top draw talent and a genuinely likeable bloke (if somewhat impulsive at times - an attribute quite evident in his shot selection as well). It is unwise as well as unfair to lynch him for his error in judgement.

    What's done is now done. Warner still has plenty to offer to Australian, as well as World Cricket.

  • Tjoeps on June 21, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    As a Saffer I think this whole story is very much a storm in a beer glass! Boys will be boys.... The English media will test the Aussies at every corner to try and upset the team spirit and resolve, I think the odds are stacked against the Aussies and it will take something special to win the Ashes back from here.... I hope that it will be a fair contest and that no other of the game stories upset the applecart one way or the other.... Here's to a good series!

  • bobagorof on June 21, 2013, 3:54 GMT

    What an absolute joke. Watson, Pattinson, Khawaja and Johnson were fed to the lions in India despite at least one of the four having a clean record, all four being dropped for a 'line in the sand moment' that was not adequately communicated to the players by management. Warner, who was one of the main culprits of failing to live up to the expectations of management for several months prior to that, has since had 2 indiscretions that have seen him slapped with code-of-conduct fines and a ban from playing - despite this, the tour management has coddled him and 'spoken warmly of Warner's chances of being chosen' for the first Test, regardless of having NO FORM and no warm up matches. So much for the line-in-the-sand. I had previously been a big supporter of Clarke as an on-field captain but this situation, and more specifically the captain and coach's attitudes, have lost me. The team will lose, and lose badly, and they have no-one but themselves to blame.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 21, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Arthur's comments are nothing new, You only have to look at the way the Aussie press have treat previous England touring parties, especially during the 90's when Aus were the ascendant team. The british media is simply returning the compliment.

    Mind you this is also the same micky arthur that claimed the Australian attack was the best in world cricket, completely overlooking the SA pace attack.

  • Partyman on June 21, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    This interview shows what is all wrong with Aussies. They are incredibly ignorant and looking for excuses, rather than taking a long hard look at themselves. How could he blame ECB and the media when one of your own has behaved like a first grader on a school playground!! At any time Arthur has not condemned Warner since that attack. Wonder what kind of disciplinary code is being followed by the Australian Cricket Team these days. Besides what the England media is doing now is not 1/100th of what the Aussie media does when England is in town. Arthur betrays a massive lack of knowledge and is completely ignorant of the world he lives in. No wonder Aussie Cricketers are behaving in such a despicable and unruly manner.

  • Partyman on June 21, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    Always believed Arthur to be a mediocre coach who got lucky with South Africa due to the greats in the team. No wonder Smith and his gang wanted to get rid of him. His results with Australia has been downright abysmal. Hey I am not complaining by the way. I am surprised none of the outspoken Aussie greats have called for his head. If only he knew about the English media, he would have known that Fletcher who was was miles ahead of him as a coach was called to step down at every nook and corner when results started evading him. Arthur must consider himself lucky to be in his job. Anywhere else, he would have got the sack by now.

  • zenboomerang on June 21, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    One area that everyone (media included) seems to have completely ignored in the Warner/Root kerfuffle is why was Root wearing an Hashim Amla beard at 2:30am in a bar in which no one else was wearing fancy dress?...

    Perhaps Warner initially took it as an offensive prank & reacted impulsively (not defending his actions) & took a swipe at the beard... My initial reaction to Roots dress was disgust at that kind of behaviour, but compounded by Warners reaction...