West Indies v England, 2nd T20, Barbados March 10, 2014

WI show England the T20 way


Match Facts

March 11, Barbados
Start time 2.00pm (1800GMT)

Injuries force lineup changes for 2nd T20

The Big Picture

The road to Bangladesh from Barbados is so far looking smoother for West Indies than England. Conditions in the first T20 may actually have given a fairer indication of what is come that some expected before the match. Spinners, and those taking pace off the ball, were the most effective bowlers: West Indies had by far the better balanced side.

Selection issues can, of course, be tweaked but it remains to be seen if that is enough for England whose short-form cricket has take a significant step back of late. They have now notched four defeats on the bounce - all comprehensive. The biggest issue is the batting and the fact that it still seems to sway from either block or bash with not much inbetween.

There are added issues for the visitors, too. Stuart Broad is sitting out the rest of the series and his stand-in as captain, Eoin Morgan, is not fully fit either. One of the spare batsmen in the squad, Ian Bell, has not played a Twenty20 match since January 2011 and the reserve seam bowlers are the inexperienced pair of Chris Jordan and Harry Gurney.

Everywhere you look in West Indies' line-up there is power with the bat, from Dwayne Smith and Chris Gayle at the top down to the captain Darren Sammy who was not needed in the first game.

Form guide

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Watch out for...

Marlon Samuels has called Samuel Badree West Indies' "trump card" going into the World T20 and that is some call considering his fellow spinner is Sunil Narine. Badree sped through this four overs two days ago and in the blink of an eye had 3 for 17 as England's top order flayed hopelessly. The tactic can't be just to play him out, somehow plans have to formed to score off him otherwise the Powerplay will go to waste.

Are England making the best use of Ravi Bopara? While he is adjusting to the finishers role in the ODI side, it appears a waste to have an in-form batsman down at No. 6 in the Twenty20 outfit. Bopara, himself, has said he would like a chance higher up the order and he also possesses the power to clear the rope, but it is pointless him doing so when the team is already in a mess. The impact of his medium-pace cutters highlighted the error of England's selection in the opening match.

Team news

Sunil Narine did not need a scan on the knee he jarred on the first game, but there remains a chance he could be rested as a precaution. With an eye on the World T20, West Indies may switch their pace-bowling options around and have a look at either Krishmar Santokie and Sheldon Cottrell, the two left-armers in the squad. Johnson Charles and Andre Fletcher are the batsmen waiting in the wings.

West Indies (possible) 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Dwayne Smith, 3 Marlon Samuels, 4 Lendl Simmons, 5 Dwayne Bravo, 6 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 7 Darren Sammy (capt), 8 Andre Russell, 9 Sunil Narine, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Samuel Badree

Broad's injury and the need to adapt to conditions they misread on the opening game will mean changes for England. It could be the introduction of two spinners, Stephen Parry for Broad and perhaps Moeen Ali for the struggling Luke Wright. The form of Ben Stokes is also an issue. With Bell now confirmed in the World T20 squad the management will to give him some game time, too.

England (possible) 1 Alex Hales, 2 Michael Lumb, 3 Moeen Ali, 4 Eoin Morgan (capt), 5 Ben Stokes, 6 Jos Buttler (wk), 7 Ravi Bopara, 8 Tim Bresnan, 9 James Tredwell, 10 Jade Dernbach, 11 Stephen Parry

Pitch and conditions

It was a pitch pretty close to ideal for T20 in the opening match with enough pace and bounce to encourage strokeplay although the slower bowlers were still very effective. It should not have changed hugely after 40 overs.

Stats and trivia

  • Eoin Morgan needs 39 runs to become the second England batsman, after Kevin Pietersen, to score 1000 T20I runs

  • England's run of four consecutive defeats equals their longest losing run in T20

  • Lendl Simmons needs one run to reach 500 in T20Is


"We musn't panic from this game. We must look to take the confidence from the 50-over stuff, and come back in the next two.''
Graham Thorpe

"We have Ravi Rampaul, Dwayne Bravo and of course, Narine, who can defend any total."
Denesh Ramdin

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Steve on March 11, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    @JG2704; It is easier to say who should not be there, isn't it?! But you are definitely right about our approach to running and fielding. My earlier point was that it is not easy to smash good bowling for 4's and 6's, only a select few players can stand and deliver consistently. We don't really have players who play late enough, and are supple of wrist and mobile at the crease, which is why I am glad Bell is there. You need to be busy as well as powerful, get their captain questioning his field placings. As for Jade, I have to admit to being biased against his attitude, but if he gets the ball fuller and stops bowling a variety of long hops we need to stick with him for this tournament I guess...

  • Anuj on March 11, 2014, 17:15 GMT

    Where are the KPs - Kevin Pieterson and Kieron Pollard?? Thought for England - Who wants to see Lumb when you have KP.....WI - Is pollard injured, why is he not playing for last 2-3 months?

  • John on March 11, 2014, 16:27 GMT

    @steve48 - CTD

    As I pointed out in previous threads also feel tactics etc are as big a problem as personnel.

    Re batting - I hate the way our hitters will hit a 4 or 6 and then have a couple of dots rather than follow it up with a single. I also wonder how many more runs could be scored by aggressive running? Re bowling/fielding. We so often hold bowlers overs back after a decent 1st spell and then they come back at the death and go for runs. If they're on top of the game - taking wkts/not conceeding 1st time round why not bowl them for longer where they may even put the inns to bed? Also wish we'd squeeze a bit more in the field - not let batsmen find a rhythm.

    From the T20 squad we have in the WC (presuming Bell is there) my team would be

    Hales,Lumb,Bell,Ali,Morgan,Buttler,Bopara,Tredwell,Parry and 2 from Bres,Dernbach,Jordan

    Also flexible so Morgan and Jos come up the order if they are only 1 or 2 down after 10-12 overs

  • John on March 11, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    @steve48 - Just wondering who you think should be there - who is not there?

    Patel is a fair shout. Ali is in the squad already.

    But yes I agree that we have gone too heavy on pace with not enough spin options. So from the squad right now I'd definitely bring someone like Patel in for someone like Stokes. As for Bopara - the commentators were saying that he bats too low but are they forgetting all the times he almost fell asleep at the crease.It's a shame as he has all the talent but I'm not sure he has the urgency to go with it. Also imagine if Bopara comes in at 3 or 4 and then stagnates the RR and you have guys like Morgan and Buttler in the hutch? I'll openly admit that there are inns when I have wanted Bopara to get out early so he doesnt stagnate the RR. Despite his figures I liked the way Dernbach bowled last time out.Most of his balls were full and his 3rd over (which was expensive) he was unlucky not to get Samuels with the 1st ball of the over.

  • Steve on March 11, 2014, 15:00 GMT

    JG2704, thanks for the comments. Agree about Lumb and esp Hales, but they are far better against seam bowling, and the ball coming on to the bat. Bopara is a proper enigma, probably only kept in by his bowling! Buttler is actually a big favourite of mine, but a diet of late over slogging has taken its toll on him, and with the lack of spin, esp mystery spin means he is really struggling when faced with spin at the start of his innings. Anyone better, maybe not, but my point is we should have been putting a suitable, horses for courses side together for THIS tournament since the last one finished. I love all forms of the game, and want to see us plan seriously for these tournaments. I mean, even if we did misread the pitch for the first T20, give the guys who are going to play in Bangladesh a go now. One spinner? Ali and Patel should have been in, Bell too. Surely we don't plan to play 4 seamers?

  • Mario on March 11, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    'Everywhere you look in West Indies' line-up there is power with the bat, from Dwayne Smith and Chris Gayle at the top down to the captain Darren Sammy'.

    If I may make a slight correction: In West Indies' line-up there is power with the bat, from Dwayne Smith #1 to Andre Russell #8. Andre Russell is an explosive hitter when needed. I think he's right up there with Dwayne Smith.

  • Dummy4 on March 11, 2014, 14:01 GMT

    what about Moeen Ali?One has to think sensibly,what does Moeen Ali offer and what does Luke Wright offer?Elegance and useful spin v slogging and mediocre ""hit me" bowling....

  • Android on March 11, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    hales and lumb are looking useless at top of the order. well done bopara and bresnan will your batting . Rest of the team are not doing enough

  • G on March 11, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    England are missing KEVIN PIETERSEN.

  • John on March 11, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    @steve48 Wright looks hopeless at the moment and prob should be dropped but I think Lumb and Hales have been OK for England up front. The latter was rated the best T20 batsman in the world until a few months ago. Re Stokes - I agree. I think for a SF all rounder to be a success - his SR as a batsman has to outdo his ER as a bowler - IE if as a batsman you are scoring at 8.5 runs an over your bowling ER should be less than 8.5 and Stokes is not. Re Buttler - he needs to show consistency in England colours but is there any WK who would do any better vs spin with the bat? Re Bopara - NO. Keep him right down the order.Bopara is one of the most selfish batsmen in our side and would rather finish not out with the side nowhere near reaching the target than sacrifice his wicket for quick runs. He has been proven time and again in shorter formats for England that he is a serial stagnater of runs wherever he has batted. At least down the order he does less damage to the team

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