West Indies news August 29, 2014

Give Lloyd free rein - Greenidge

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Former West Indies batsman Gordon Greenidge has urged the West Indies cricket set-up to refrain from judging Clive Lloyd, the new convener of the selection panel, on short-term results. Greenidge also wanted Lloyd to be given the liberty to establish his methods, to help improve the performance of the West Indies team.

Lloyd was appointed head of the selection panel earlier this month on a two-year contract along with former fast bowlers Courtney Walsh and Eldine Baptiste who replaced Clyde Butts and Robert Haynes as selectors. Comparing the situation in the West Indies to the football club, Manchester United, which have been struggling since the departure of long-time manager Sir Alex Ferguson, Greenidge stressed that Lloyd would need time to transfer his inputs to the team.

"It is a bit like what's happening at Manchester United," Greenidge told Reuters. "Everyone's expecting the new managers there to just pick up where Alex Ferguson left off - that's impossible. The new man needs to transfer a serious input of his thinking to his team and the way he wants them to go. He needs to build a team and explain how he wants them to go forward.

"It's the same thing with Clive Lloyd. Unfortunately his job will be measured in terms of how successful the West Indies team is, that's always been the case, but I think a change around is necessary and he needs to do that straight away."

Llyod recently said that his main focus as a chief selector would be to "harness talent from the regional Under-19 tournaments" by using the High Performance Centre in Barbados to instill skills and retain them in West Indies cricket. He had also stated that former players would be brought in to fulfill different roles. Greenidge, who played 59 Tests and 57 ODIs under Lloyd's leadership, hoped the former West Indies captain would be appreciated by the board and given the resources he needed.

"The powers-that-be need to accept Clive, appreciate him and look upon him as the person he is, someone who can get the job done," Greenidge said. "I feel in recent times there has been a lot of disrespect shown to players who have played in the past and there has been more dictatorial behaviour happening around cricket in the Caribbean.

"I haven't been involved for a while which is a damned shame because a lot of players who played in the past have got so much to contribute and have not been given a chance to do so.

"I just hope they recognise Clive's contribution to the West Indies and give him the necessary tools to work with. I don't see a problem at all with Clive but it may be a problem with the people he's working with or the people he reports to."

The West Indies side has also had to cope with the departure of coach Ottis Gibson, who parted ways with the WICB before the ODI series against Bangladesh. Greenidge stressed that the board would have be patient with the new coach in the task of uniting the team.

"People are going to expect the new coach to bring an immediate turnaround and I don't think that's going to be possible," he said. "It's going to take time for whoever takes over. I just hope that whoever it is can mould the group into a better fighting unit. It's been very fragmented over the years and hopefully the new coach can make a difference and we can get away from the insular thinking."

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  • POSTED BY Whispering_Holding on | August 31, 2014, 1:42 GMT

    Great to see Lloyd in charge. Wish Greenidge had a part too. I would suggest though based on the continued selection of Shillingford that not much has changed. He was given a central contract before he was tested, and now that he cannot bowl the doosra, he's really predictable. But they gave him contract even though he was being tested at the same time (correct me if i am wrong) so they see dollars and cents only, not what is good for our cricket- hence the validity of Gordon's comments.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 14:13 GMT

    I wish Lloyd could implement what he did as a captain. Identify 6 - 8 tall Carribean fast bowlers who would terrorize batsmen on any surface. We would love to see the days when tall Carribean fast bowlers never gave any deliveries of a drivable length.. if he can do that, West Indies cricket would be a great team to watch. Greenidge is right. Give Lloyd time and one is sure he would identify such talent.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 4:37 GMT

    We saw the greatness of Clive Lloyd as Captain. I saw him at close quarters during West Indies tour of India in 1983-84.A captain who just moved from Ist slip at one end to the Ist slip at he other end. All communication with he bowlers was left to Viv Richards and Gorden Greenidge.It was a heavily talented team with 6 great batsmen who would get into any world 11 and 4 great fast bowlers .If there was a new entrant like Richardson or Logie in batting or Winston davis/Courtney Walsh in bowling, they also strived to reach the set high performance levels.In the midst of all this we all knew who is the boss on the field.Hope he does the same as the head of the selection panel.Probably the best captain ever

  • POSTED BY knuckleballz on | August 30, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    I almost forgot happy birthday Clive Lloyd:)

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    TEST squad SIMMONS ,gayle ,SARWAN ,DM Bravo, Chanderpaur ,ramdin , blackwood,k braitwait,S Narine , shilinford, taylor , holder, K roach . what sarwan do in test cricket cause him to be out YEA he fail a couple of games . his record told me that contribute alot most majority current players. why the cant give L Simmons a knock in test since he has been the most consistence in WI OVER A YEAR NOW.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 2:25 GMT

    I am hopping that the next WI coach would take the west indies team to the require level. WI players need to take the cricket very seriously even though there are in a strong position. SELECTORS should focus on the regional UNDER 19 PLAYERS because i strongly believe there r the one's HAS A BETTER CHANCE of making west indies supporters PROUD. The body language of some WI players while playing give me no sign of hope even though the trample BANGLADESH in the last ODI series . FINALLY WHY WICB TAKE INTERNATIONAL CRICKET SO OFTEN TO COUNTRIES WHICH POORLY SUPPORT WI, there stadiums r actually empty.

  • POSTED BY Sappie on | August 30, 2014, 1:28 GMT

    Tell me which one of these current WI players had the audacity, the shameless boldness, to say he is as good as Sobers. I do not believe anyone of them, including Shiv, could say such a thing (I do not believe Shiv would say such a thing). That is utter blasphemy, total sacrilege, complete disrespect for the talent, achievements, reputation, and high standing of the man who not only is the best cricketer the game has ever (and will ever see), but, in my book, the best batsman the game has ever seen,"Bradman notwithstanding," to quote the words of the great Sir Everton Weekes, a man who himself would get a few votes as the best batsman the game has ever see. None of these current players, Shiv excepted, could even, to quote the words of the great boxer Larry Holmes, said about Rocky Marciano, "carry Sobers's jock strap." Yes, Lloyd should be given carte blanche to do what is necessary to revive our dead fortunes. Stanley A George

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 1:05 GMT

    I am reading here, these comments and realizing that the same problem with the West indies team is the same problem with the people who has the opportunity to write ..DISCIPLINE. I may not see every game but the ones that I've seen played by other countries and regions , the players are committed to the games. Apart from the ones that are trying to gain recognition, players seem to love to play for their teams, I don't get that from our West Indies. Guys go to bat and its all about me , if I feel good then I play good , if they don't like what's going on then it doesn't matter if they score double figures they still get paid. my latest observation , the one day captain does not like the T20 captain, prove me wrong. Some TT players don't care about the Guyanese, and the Jamaican are always we are the best, BREAK DOWN THESE WALLS and we will win again, that's why we need CLIVE LLOYD.

  • POSTED BY Sappie on | August 29, 2014, 23:43 GMT

    As a leopard cannot change its spots, so, too, the WI Board cannot change its behavior. History is replete with the shabby treatment that the Board has meted out to countless WI players, not the least of which has been the great, incomparable, cricketing immortal Sir Garfield Sobers, still unmatched in my book. The Board has had a one track mind for at least 75 years now. You would think that it is written into the constitution of the WICB for it to be unfair, short-sighted, incompetent, injudicious, uninsightful, uninspiring, shortsighted, downright lacking in cricket acumen, making the wrong choices, and downright nasty to current and former WI cricketers. Once has to wonder if the Board is capable of doing things any differently. We all would love to see it but no one, I am sure, will count on it. It is hard to believe that there were hardly any former cricketers, good, great, or just fair, who could have helped WI cricket. Stanley A George III, Esq, Unique Sports Agency, Brooklyn

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 21:36 GMT

    Again, not LLoyd, and all the WI greats can revive WI cricket. a dozen coaches could not do it, nor 1000 coaches...It is not a coaching issue...the problem with WI cricket is that we wait for players to get to the national teams to TEACH them what is required at the International level. Regional players are clueless about the basic requirements at the highest level. LLoyd can only SELECT FROM A POOL of players that is presented to him. That pool is unprepared--intellectually, psychologically, emotionally, socially. Our players MUST know the science of why the ball swings, why we shine it etc. etc...

  • POSTED BY Whispering_Holding on | August 31, 2014, 1:42 GMT

    Great to see Lloyd in charge. Wish Greenidge had a part too. I would suggest though based on the continued selection of Shillingford that not much has changed. He was given a central contract before he was tested, and now that he cannot bowl the doosra, he's really predictable. But they gave him contract even though he was being tested at the same time (correct me if i am wrong) so they see dollars and cents only, not what is good for our cricket- hence the validity of Gordon's comments.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 14:13 GMT

    I wish Lloyd could implement what he did as a captain. Identify 6 - 8 tall Carribean fast bowlers who would terrorize batsmen on any surface. We would love to see the days when tall Carribean fast bowlers never gave any deliveries of a drivable length.. if he can do that, West Indies cricket would be a great team to watch. Greenidge is right. Give Lloyd time and one is sure he would identify such talent.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 4:37 GMT

    We saw the greatness of Clive Lloyd as Captain. I saw him at close quarters during West Indies tour of India in 1983-84.A captain who just moved from Ist slip at one end to the Ist slip at he other end. All communication with he bowlers was left to Viv Richards and Gorden Greenidge.It was a heavily talented team with 6 great batsmen who would get into any world 11 and 4 great fast bowlers .If there was a new entrant like Richardson or Logie in batting or Winston davis/Courtney Walsh in bowling, they also strived to reach the set high performance levels.In the midst of all this we all knew who is the boss on the field.Hope he does the same as the head of the selection panel.Probably the best captain ever

  • POSTED BY knuckleballz on | August 30, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    I almost forgot happy birthday Clive Lloyd:)

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    TEST squad SIMMONS ,gayle ,SARWAN ,DM Bravo, Chanderpaur ,ramdin , blackwood,k braitwait,S Narine , shilinford, taylor , holder, K roach . what sarwan do in test cricket cause him to be out YEA he fail a couple of games . his record told me that contribute alot most majority current players. why the cant give L Simmons a knock in test since he has been the most consistence in WI OVER A YEAR NOW.

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 2:25 GMT

    I am hopping that the next WI coach would take the west indies team to the require level. WI players need to take the cricket very seriously even though there are in a strong position. SELECTORS should focus on the regional UNDER 19 PLAYERS because i strongly believe there r the one's HAS A BETTER CHANCE of making west indies supporters PROUD. The body language of some WI players while playing give me no sign of hope even though the trample BANGLADESH in the last ODI series . FINALLY WHY WICB TAKE INTERNATIONAL CRICKET SO OFTEN TO COUNTRIES WHICH POORLY SUPPORT WI, there stadiums r actually empty.

  • POSTED BY Sappie on | August 30, 2014, 1:28 GMT

    Tell me which one of these current WI players had the audacity, the shameless boldness, to say he is as good as Sobers. I do not believe anyone of them, including Shiv, could say such a thing (I do not believe Shiv would say such a thing). That is utter blasphemy, total sacrilege, complete disrespect for the talent, achievements, reputation, and high standing of the man who not only is the best cricketer the game has ever (and will ever see), but, in my book, the best batsman the game has ever seen,"Bradman notwithstanding," to quote the words of the great Sir Everton Weekes, a man who himself would get a few votes as the best batsman the game has ever see. None of these current players, Shiv excepted, could even, to quote the words of the great boxer Larry Holmes, said about Rocky Marciano, "carry Sobers's jock strap." Yes, Lloyd should be given carte blanche to do what is necessary to revive our dead fortunes. Stanley A George

  • POSTED BY on | August 30, 2014, 1:05 GMT

    I am reading here, these comments and realizing that the same problem with the West indies team is the same problem with the people who has the opportunity to write ..DISCIPLINE. I may not see every game but the ones that I've seen played by other countries and regions , the players are committed to the games. Apart from the ones that are trying to gain recognition, players seem to love to play for their teams, I don't get that from our West Indies. Guys go to bat and its all about me , if I feel good then I play good , if they don't like what's going on then it doesn't matter if they score double figures they still get paid. my latest observation , the one day captain does not like the T20 captain, prove me wrong. Some TT players don't care about the Guyanese, and the Jamaican are always we are the best, BREAK DOWN THESE WALLS and we will win again, that's why we need CLIVE LLOYD.

  • POSTED BY Sappie on | August 29, 2014, 23:43 GMT

    As a leopard cannot change its spots, so, too, the WI Board cannot change its behavior. History is replete with the shabby treatment that the Board has meted out to countless WI players, not the least of which has been the great, incomparable, cricketing immortal Sir Garfield Sobers, still unmatched in my book. The Board has had a one track mind for at least 75 years now. You would think that it is written into the constitution of the WICB for it to be unfair, short-sighted, incompetent, injudicious, uninsightful, uninspiring, shortsighted, downright lacking in cricket acumen, making the wrong choices, and downright nasty to current and former WI cricketers. Once has to wonder if the Board is capable of doing things any differently. We all would love to see it but no one, I am sure, will count on it. It is hard to believe that there were hardly any former cricketers, good, great, or just fair, who could have helped WI cricket. Stanley A George III, Esq, Unique Sports Agency, Brooklyn

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 21:36 GMT

    Again, not LLoyd, and all the WI greats can revive WI cricket. a dozen coaches could not do it, nor 1000 coaches...It is not a coaching issue...the problem with WI cricket is that we wait for players to get to the national teams to TEACH them what is required at the International level. Regional players are clueless about the basic requirements at the highest level. LLoyd can only SELECT FROM A POOL of players that is presented to him. That pool is unprepared--intellectually, psychologically, emotionally, socially. Our players MUST know the science of why the ball swings, why we shine it etc. etc...

  • POSTED BY cricketdebator on | August 29, 2014, 21:08 GMT

    I hope that Lloyd will stick to his promise to invest in young talented players. If he does, WI cricket has a chance of improving in the future. Conversely, if he continues with the same old non-motivational players like Chanderpaul, Gayle and Samuels etc, the results will be the same old failure. I maintain, the best way for WI cricket going forward is through a squad of its young and most talented players, and I hope that Lloyd, in his wisdom, will grasp this golden opportunity to build a good future team. It is likely that the young team could lose initially, but it is also likely that they will improve in time and grow into the competitive WI team the world would like to see.

  • POSTED BY WI_KDoct on | August 29, 2014, 20:21 GMT

    Australia is making use of their past greats; what took WI so long to do the same? There is no WICB without WI players; and to become great, learn from the greatest players WI produced; The WICB Admin probably never held a bat; I am sure the Super Cat will call upon the skills of his players, I hope WICB give him all the support and not be political.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 20:16 GMT

    Unless x westindies cricketers is not employed by d westindies cricket board, they dont make a contribution to westindies. Gone r d days when u could of see x cricketers in d villages helping young cricketers.LLoyd had d best team he`s no special. He is dchief selector,what freehand he need? HE is not d coach.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 16:31 GMT

    West Indies major problem is their lack of consistency there are many talented players such as Darren Bravo, Sunil Narine, Kemar Roach and Dinesh Ramdin just to name a few however they seen unable to sustain the intensity and fitness that is required to be successful at the highest level. Due to the fact that we have very docile pitches and most of our players no longer have the opportunity to play first class cricket in foreign conditions such as England our players have many technical flaws which are cruelly exposed by opposition bowlers especially in foreign conditions. Therefore the job of resurrecting WI cricket is a herculean one because of its multifaceted dimensions most of which is administrative in nature; however, the powers that be seems to be suffering from serious inertia.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    Does not matter its Clive Lloyd or who. WI do not have top level fast bowlers. They have one top class spinner. Batting in tests is a one man show with Chanderpaul. Gayle/Samuel good for 20/20 and ODIs.

    Lots of missing pieces.

  • POSTED BY nafzak on | August 29, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    GG is spot on. That said, I do believe that there are 2 major reasons for the good showing against B/desh. 1. B/Desh is weak to begin with & 2. WI players let out a big sigh of relief after the departure of Gibson. With Gibson, Butts and Haynes gone, it's addition by subtraction. (I Still don't get it with Butts & Gibson treatment of Sarwan. Maybe it came from higher up after Sars took the WICB to court several years ago and won a huge settlement). Anyway, now Papa Lloyd, whose imposing presence alone speak volumes, will certainly have the respect of the current players that none of the recent selectors, coaches or managers could have ever had. Lloyd 'been there, done that' cannot be challenged. He guided a WI team in the 70's that was known as 'calypso cricketers' to becoming the most professional and successful of all Cricket teams. Within 1 year, we will see a huge difference of attitude in this WI team and it will all be for the better. Thank you. Mohamed Z. Rahaman

  • POSTED BY Big_Chikka on | August 29, 2014, 14:10 GMT

    have to agree, clive lloyd is a great leader, and i cannot fathom why he's not been given a blank sheet of paper to help reconstruct west indies cricket before now.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 13:55 GMT

    I loved both Gordon Greenidge and Clive Lloyd but there are some pertinent differences between Man U and WI. Man U has been successful recently, so the expectations have been different. WI have been woeful in Tests and inconsistent in ODIs and reasonable in T20s (with one excellent World Cup). So Lloyd should benefit from lower expectations. The other thing is that Clive Lloyd (and Steve Waugh, for that matter) had great captaincy records, but how hard was it to captain those teams? Honestly?

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 29, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    Clive Lloyd is the best move only if the player listen. There some hard headed cricketer that do things there way and for years, so let's see how the big cat handle it. All best to Clive Lloyd

  • POSTED BY Collis79 on | August 29, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    Any WIndies fan with any cricketing sense knows Greenidge is right in what he says. First thing I want Lloyd and Ambrose to do is sit down with Gayle, Bravo, Narine and others and TELL THEM that if they want out of Test Cricket "There's the door", but if they stay, no attitude of "don't tell me how to play the game, I'm as good as Sobers" rubbish, they have to play with discipline AND FOR THE TEAM! in their batting and bowling, even if they lose. The rest of what Lloyd wants within WIndies cricket will happen with his planning.

  • POSTED BY knuckleballz on | August 29, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    My test team Gayle,Powell,Daren Bravo,Chanderpaul,Ramdin,Pollard,Dwayne Bravo,Holder,Narine,Rampaul,Roach.subs. Cotterel,K Edwards,Blackwood.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | August 29, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Greenidge is absolutely right. Give Llyod 2 yrs before judging his methods and leadership. He is the best of the lot to turn things around for WI.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    I agree with Gordon 100%. I hope Clive is not hamstrung by WICB leadership. It is written that 'Pride goes before a fall and a haughty spirit before destruction'. The late great Malcolm Marshal's lament about the players not listening to him bears testimony to one reason for WI recent failure. Not sure Gordon would be listened to, I am very convinced he would be a big help for our batters who often look like novices against swing bowling. Two decades of failure could have been mitigated. Let's hope for a brighter tomorrow. I am confident Clive can do the job.

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | August 29, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    Clive Lloyd is one of the greatest leaders of men the game has seen. Well said Gordon. All power to the Big Cat.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    bring back the four prang pace attack...gibson was not strong enough trying to load the team with batting but bowlers win you matches. Cotrell, taylor rampaul and holder with dwayne bravo in the team to bowl those change ups. team use to sit on the bowling until a few overs then has it is realize that there is no depth in the bowling scores runs easily. Narine in the team as well, work with holder and taylor to increase there batting that will strengthen the lower order. My team selection for test cricket. Gayle and Simmons to open darren bravo, chanderpaul, dwayne bravo, ramdin, holder, narine, taylor, rampaul, cotrell. Some might consider my team not batsmen friendly but the mentality here is if you get us out for 100 we gona get you out for 50 and that was the blueprint of west indies cricket of old. so clive lloyd get back to the drawing board and work some magic. and ambrose as the new coach is not a bad thing seems to have good chemistry with players and that was fergie thing

  • POSTED BY netgrouchy on | August 29, 2014, 11:55 GMT

    Excellent Gordon G! Spot on IPSY! We can only look forward to brighter and better things!!! Bring it on Clive Lloyd!!! Bring it on West Indies!!!

  • POSTED BY coolie on | August 29, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    Drain it, filter it, fill it...

  • POSTED BY IPSY on | August 29, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    I fully agree with Gordon Greenidge. I don't know if the Lloyd-style ruthlessness that characterise the results in the series against the Bangladeshis so far, is an indication of the players are already reacting to just the inclusion of his name at the helm of the selection committee. I personally never endorsed the name of any of the members of the selection panel that the WICB kept for so long - they were all only mediocre bits and pieces cricketers who never only saw cricket at the level of their own ability. Then the WICB exacerbated the issue by appointing a captain and coach of the same cricketing capability genre of that whole selection panel then; and allowed him a stint of all of 4 years. I don't think that the WICB, or anybody for that matter expected any thing better than the gross deterioration that we see in our cricket within that time. I think the whole Caribbean does have more confidence in the new panel that has been put in place under Clive Lioyd.

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  • POSTED BY IPSY on | August 29, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    I fully agree with Gordon Greenidge. I don't know if the Lloyd-style ruthlessness that characterise the results in the series against the Bangladeshis so far, is an indication of the players are already reacting to just the inclusion of his name at the helm of the selection committee. I personally never endorsed the name of any of the members of the selection panel that the WICB kept for so long - they were all only mediocre bits and pieces cricketers who never only saw cricket at the level of their own ability. Then the WICB exacerbated the issue by appointing a captain and coach of the same cricketing capability genre of that whole selection panel then; and allowed him a stint of all of 4 years. I don't think that the WICB, or anybody for that matter expected any thing better than the gross deterioration that we see in our cricket within that time. I think the whole Caribbean does have more confidence in the new panel that has been put in place under Clive Lioyd.

  • POSTED BY coolie on | August 29, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    Drain it, filter it, fill it...

  • POSTED BY netgrouchy on | August 29, 2014, 11:55 GMT

    Excellent Gordon G! Spot on IPSY! We can only look forward to brighter and better things!!! Bring it on Clive Lloyd!!! Bring it on West Indies!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    bring back the four prang pace attack...gibson was not strong enough trying to load the team with batting but bowlers win you matches. Cotrell, taylor rampaul and holder with dwayne bravo in the team to bowl those change ups. team use to sit on the bowling until a few overs then has it is realize that there is no depth in the bowling scores runs easily. Narine in the team as well, work with holder and taylor to increase there batting that will strengthen the lower order. My team selection for test cricket. Gayle and Simmons to open darren bravo, chanderpaul, dwayne bravo, ramdin, holder, narine, taylor, rampaul, cotrell. Some might consider my team not batsmen friendly but the mentality here is if you get us out for 100 we gona get you out for 50 and that was the blueprint of west indies cricket of old. so clive lloyd get back to the drawing board and work some magic. and ambrose as the new coach is not a bad thing seems to have good chemistry with players and that was fergie thing

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | August 29, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    Clive Lloyd is one of the greatest leaders of men the game has seen. Well said Gordon. All power to the Big Cat.

  • POSTED BY on | August 29, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    I agree with Gordon 100%. I hope Clive is not hamstrung by WICB leadership. It is written that 'Pride goes before a fall and a haughty spirit before destruction'. The late great Malcolm Marshal's lament about the players not listening to him bears testimony to one reason for WI recent failure. Not sure Gordon would be listened to, I am very convinced he would be a big help for our batters who often look like novices against swing bowling. Two decades of failure could have been mitigated. Let's hope for a brighter tomorrow. I am confident Clive can do the job.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | August 29, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Greenidge is absolutely right. Give Llyod 2 yrs before judging his methods and leadership. He is the best of the lot to turn things around for WI.

  • POSTED BY knuckleballz on | August 29, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    My test team Gayle,Powell,Daren Bravo,Chanderpaul,Ramdin,Pollard,Dwayne Bravo,Holder,Narine,Rampaul,Roach.subs. Cotterel,K Edwards,Blackwood.

  • POSTED BY Collis79 on | August 29, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    Any WIndies fan with any cricketing sense knows Greenidge is right in what he says. First thing I want Lloyd and Ambrose to do is sit down with Gayle, Bravo, Narine and others and TELL THEM that if they want out of Test Cricket "There's the door", but if they stay, no attitude of "don't tell me how to play the game, I'm as good as Sobers" rubbish, they have to play with discipline AND FOR THE TEAM! in their batting and bowling, even if they lose. The rest of what Lloyd wants within WIndies cricket will happen with his planning.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 29, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    Clive Lloyd is the best move only if the player listen. There some hard headed cricketer that do things there way and for years, so let's see how the big cat handle it. All best to Clive Lloyd