Australia news November 22, 2011

Mickey Arthur chosen as Australia's coach

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Mickey Arthur, the former South Africa coach, has been appointed the new coach of Australia, a role with wide-ranging responsibilities after its redefinition under the recommendations of the Argus review.

Arthur is the first foreign-born coach to be appointed to oversee Australia's fortunes, and will be in place in time for the first Test between Australia and New Zealand in Brisbane from December 1 to 5. Arthur's contract will run until the end of the 2015 World Cup.

"I am honoured and privileged to have another chance to coach an international team, particularly a team of the ilk of Australia," Arthur said. "I think I bring a fresh, unblinkered eye to the role after plotting against Australia when coaching South Africa, and having now worked within the Australian system with the Warriors.

"Australia has an abundance of cricket talent and I am confident the talent is there to ensure Australia is successful."

Following a thorough search that included entreaties to the England coach Andy Flower, among others, Arthur was confirmed in the job after a final round of interviews last week. Steve Rixon, Tom Moody and Justin Langer were among the other contenders for the job.

Since resigning from the South Africa job, Arthur worked as coach of Western Australia, familiarising himself with the Australian game and also showing his capability for tough decisions as he worked to revitalise a state that had developed, in his words, "too many comfort zones".

Arthur had kept one eye on events at Cricket Australia since his arrival to coach WA, but said he became seriously interested in the role only after Tim Nielsen's position was opened up to new candidates and the incumbent chose not to reapply.

"Once Tim vacated the role [at the end of the Sri Lanka series] then it got serious," Arthur said. "It was too good an opportunity not to have a look at, so I think I became interested once the advertisement went out for the post. I was really happy at Western Australia and really happy that we were trying to build something, but this job was just too good not to have a look at."

In addition to coaching Australia, Arthur will be a selector, and also the man responsible for ensuring the coaching philosophy and structure across all state sides will be consistent with and helpful to the progress of the national team. It is a commission similarly powerful to that held by Flower in England, and not dissimilar to Arthur's in his time with South Africa between 2005 and 2010.

During that tenure, Arthur formed a strong relationship with the captain, Graeme Smith, as the team rose from mediocrity to a peak that included in 2008-09 the first Test series win in Australia by any side for 15 years. Arthur acknowledged that his formation of a strong bond with Clarke, who was known to be a backer of Rixon, would be crucial to the team's success.

"I think the relationship between your captain and coach is one of the most important relationships there is in the game. It is almost like a marriage," Arthur said. "The captain and the coach feed off each other and there can be no discrepancies. Certainly the captain and the coach need to have consistent messages they're continually giving to the players.

"But it doesn't mean the captain and the coach can't challenge each other, that's all part of it and that's done behind closed doors. I'm really excited to work with Michael Clarke, he's an incredible talent and I've been very excited by the way he's gone about his captaincy. I think since he's taken over he's been innovative, he's captained with a lot of flair, and I'm really looking forward to supporting him, so he can be the best he possibly can and get the most runs he possibly can as well."

Shaun Pollock, the former South Africa captain and fast bowler, described Arthur's role with South Africa, and his qualities as a coach. "He's got a good understanding for the game and he will challenge the players," Pollock said. "He's not scared to take on and confront issues, but I think he would be defined more as a man manager."

Arthur's appointment concluded a momentous round of changes to the structure around the Australian team, including the appointment of Pat Howard as team performance manager, the induction of a new selection panel that will now comprise the national selector John Inverarity, Clarke, selectors Rod Marsh and Andy Bichel and Arthur.

The Western Australia coaching position Arthur departed from, also responsible for the Perth Scorchers in the BBL, will be taken over by his assistant Lachlan Stevens.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Meety on November 24, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    @popcorn - mate Justin Langar? Think about it - 3 sub 100s in his time!

  • subbass on November 24, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    Yeh Kepler Wessles was very proud to play for the Aussies same with Nannes.

  • RandyOZ on November 23, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    This is only the tip of a big iceberg. Soon we'll have players like KP who claim to get a tat of the 3 lions to show his dedication to England but really it's because he misses the Lions in the transvaal back home!

  • RandyOZ on November 23, 2011, 12:04 GMT

    Mickey Arthur took SA to the top of the test rankings for a whopping 4 months during his tenure! Admittedly we couldn't be beaten at the time. The comments from the English are downright hilarious. It's like they accept having a United XI for a team now! This is why I don't want a foreign coach. I don't want blatant imports in the team (Ussie, like Prior, is ok. Strauss isn't, he learnt his trade in Oz). I don't want Afrikaans as our official team language like England. Putting on the baggy green is the absolute pinnacle for an Aussie, a foreign coach or foreigners will never understand that. I guess that's because we have such a proud and successful history in test cricket, where we own every record that counts.

  • AidanFX on November 23, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    @ Aussierise think this has been Clarke's focus since he took over ... and I think fielding was mentioned in Argus - so won't be ignored... Fielding was always the thing that separated Aus from other teams... the fielding is showing signs of improving after it went seriously downhill in my estimation.

  • popcorn on November 23, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    I wish Mickey Arthur all the best in his new assignment. I hope he will retain Justin Langer as the batting coach,Steve Rixon as the fielding coach,Craig Dermott as the fast bowling coach, and innovatively get Ashley Mallett or Stuart Macgill as the Spin Bowling Coach.

  • SuperSharky on November 23, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    BIG MISTAKE!!!! Remember that Little Mickey Mouse were shut-out of The Proteas scene by The Brawler Kid, Graeme Smith and his veterans. And if it wasn't for Ray Jennings that tried to put some respect and discipline foundations in the Protea Camp, they would have made it harder for Mickey earlier. Micky Arthur is a brilliant strategist. I just hoped that he was coach or educated by the Auzzies to be able to coach Auzzies. In Rugby Union, The Springboks coach, Jake White, used Australian Coach Eddie Jones to win them a World Cup. They didn't appoint Eddie as the coach, he had to be the assistant coach. That's the route the Auzzies should have went. Mickey Arthur must be an assistant coach, because Auzzies in general knows more about Crickets finer details then Saffers. I don't say that Mickey isn't worth it, I'm saying don't underestimate Australian Coaches. I think the Proteas needs an Auzzie coach now. No-way, appoint them as assistants if you do have talent.

  • indianzen on November 23, 2011, 9:56 GMT

    whats the point in appointing a foreign coach ? australia cannnot be India at any cost...

  • AdamDthecricketer on November 23, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    His appoitment is great and He needs to do the same job as Bob Simpson

  • plod on November 23, 2011, 2:48 GMT

    I think it is a great appointment, we need some lateral thinking and some objectivity if we are to reclaim our No. 1 position in Test Cricket. I am hoping that we don't see the same mistakes being made. Selection and development need to improve. Our best is very competitive, our worst is bloody shocking. Very un-australian and unacceptable. I hope we go into the First Test against the hapless Kiwis, without Haddin, Johnson, Siddle. They've had their go, time to move on. Wade, Harris and Ben Cutting as my smoky. The attack would be Cummins, Harris, Lyon, Cutting, with hopefully Watto to bowl his sublime seamers! Bring on Summer, can't wait.

  • Meety on November 24, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    @popcorn - mate Justin Langar? Think about it - 3 sub 100s in his time!

  • subbass on November 24, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    Yeh Kepler Wessles was very proud to play for the Aussies same with Nannes.

  • RandyOZ on November 23, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    This is only the tip of a big iceberg. Soon we'll have players like KP who claim to get a tat of the 3 lions to show his dedication to England but really it's because he misses the Lions in the transvaal back home!

  • RandyOZ on November 23, 2011, 12:04 GMT

    Mickey Arthur took SA to the top of the test rankings for a whopping 4 months during his tenure! Admittedly we couldn't be beaten at the time. The comments from the English are downright hilarious. It's like they accept having a United XI for a team now! This is why I don't want a foreign coach. I don't want blatant imports in the team (Ussie, like Prior, is ok. Strauss isn't, he learnt his trade in Oz). I don't want Afrikaans as our official team language like England. Putting on the baggy green is the absolute pinnacle for an Aussie, a foreign coach or foreigners will never understand that. I guess that's because we have such a proud and successful history in test cricket, where we own every record that counts.

  • AidanFX on November 23, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    @ Aussierise think this has been Clarke's focus since he took over ... and I think fielding was mentioned in Argus - so won't be ignored... Fielding was always the thing that separated Aus from other teams... the fielding is showing signs of improving after it went seriously downhill in my estimation.

  • popcorn on November 23, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    I wish Mickey Arthur all the best in his new assignment. I hope he will retain Justin Langer as the batting coach,Steve Rixon as the fielding coach,Craig Dermott as the fast bowling coach, and innovatively get Ashley Mallett or Stuart Macgill as the Spin Bowling Coach.

  • SuperSharky on November 23, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    BIG MISTAKE!!!! Remember that Little Mickey Mouse were shut-out of The Proteas scene by The Brawler Kid, Graeme Smith and his veterans. And if it wasn't for Ray Jennings that tried to put some respect and discipline foundations in the Protea Camp, they would have made it harder for Mickey earlier. Micky Arthur is a brilliant strategist. I just hoped that he was coach or educated by the Auzzies to be able to coach Auzzies. In Rugby Union, The Springboks coach, Jake White, used Australian Coach Eddie Jones to win them a World Cup. They didn't appoint Eddie as the coach, he had to be the assistant coach. That's the route the Auzzies should have went. Mickey Arthur must be an assistant coach, because Auzzies in general knows more about Crickets finer details then Saffers. I don't say that Mickey isn't worth it, I'm saying don't underestimate Australian Coaches. I think the Proteas needs an Auzzie coach now. No-way, appoint them as assistants if you do have talent.

  • indianzen on November 23, 2011, 9:56 GMT

    whats the point in appointing a foreign coach ? australia cannnot be India at any cost...

  • AdamDthecricketer on November 23, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    His appoitment is great and He needs to do the same job as Bob Simpson

  • plod on November 23, 2011, 2:48 GMT

    I think it is a great appointment, we need some lateral thinking and some objectivity if we are to reclaim our No. 1 position in Test Cricket. I am hoping that we don't see the same mistakes being made. Selection and development need to improve. Our best is very competitive, our worst is bloody shocking. Very un-australian and unacceptable. I hope we go into the First Test against the hapless Kiwis, without Haddin, Johnson, Siddle. They've had their go, time to move on. Wade, Harris and Ben Cutting as my smoky. The attack would be Cummins, Harris, Lyon, Cutting, with hopefully Watto to bowl his sublime seamers! Bring on Summer, can't wait.

  • Alexk400 on November 23, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    He could n't get to number 1 when he had number 1 fast bowler. He will suck.

  • Aussierise on November 23, 2011, 2:06 GMT

    hopefully arthurs does not neglect the 3rd facet like nelson and co has done - fielding! for all our woes with bat and ball it is actually our fielding which has been neglected since mid 2009. team insiders know that this has been a major factor in us losing number 1 test ranking. we were heads and shoulders above the rest of the world 3 years ago and lets be honest....julia gillard could of taken a wicket and bowled an economical spell with an inner circle of hayden, warne (slips), hussey (gully), pup (point), symonds (cover), binga (mid off), and punter (short mid wicket), langer (under the helmet). when push came to shove in major test matches or world cup finals it was the fielding of the inner circle which tighten the screws on opposition..no easy runs and batsman had to play forceful shots to score runs through off side. Our team atm shows no anticipation, preparation, soft hands or footwork. our best fielders pup/punter are now in the slips. hopefully this facet is not ignored!

  • mick82 on November 23, 2011, 1:36 GMT

    Guys can we drop the whole "Eng best players are importrs" argument?? Its getting tired and i dont think that kind of whiny attitude gets anyone anywhere. Besides Usman was born in Pakistan and i dont feel the least bit bad he playing for aus. Eng has done well, respect that. Results speak louder than wiords so if their county system or recruitment policy is working for them let it be. It doesnt make you more Aussie coz you refuse to respect anybody else.

  • katandthat3 on November 23, 2011, 1:15 GMT

    Really happy with Mickey as coach of the Aussies, who cares what country he is from. With the newly defined Head coaching role, he fits the bill. I was disappointed for Rixon too and was hoping he would be the assistant coach that runs a lot of the drills and works the boys hard while Mickey overseas the operation. Think that would work well and we'll see what happens there. McDermott as the bowling coach is good and he'll have a lot of work to do. Still not sure about Langer as batting coach, it's important to back your players but I'd be easier to listen to if he was honest and could admit guys were struggling but working hard instead of the PC BS we get occasionally, if you can't be objective you're dulling your abilities as a coach. Stoked with all these changes with the national set up and now I'm prepared to watch with interest in the next 12 months how we go, I'm not expecting miracles but certainly improvement and no more sub 100 scores. Interesting selections ahead. Go summer!

  • Marcio on November 23, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    I have no problem with it as long as he was better than other candidates. It's normal for sporting teams to have coaches from other countries, not just in cricket. If he does poorly he will cop a hiding from media and the AUS public, but I suspect he is aware of that.

  • Marcio on November 23, 2011, 0:32 GMT

    @JB77 that "very mediocre" team is ranked # 1 in ODIs, and just won a test series in SL, and drew one in SA. What should we then say about the opposition?

  • SpadeaSpade on November 23, 2011, 0:25 GMT

    in regards to selecting the coach CA = Pat Howard , The same guy who signed up Robbie Deans for the ARB. The Same Guy who knows rugby at a professional level and not Cricket. Maybe he should have been an advisor to the High Performance manager to ensure that an outsiders view is listened to and considered. If i'm correct , Australia have won more rugby WC cups than any other nation , And i know for DAM sure that we are a mightly Successful nation at cricket. People just need some patience and direct their energy into supporting the current side and Capt. no doubt some spots are still up for grabs but that is more than understandable when you think of the players that have retired in the past 5 years. I have no doubt whatsoever that we will rise to number 1 in test cricket inside the next 3 years. Go the Aussies !!!

  • JB77 on November 23, 2011, 0:21 GMT

    Not impressed by this appointment. As others have said here, I just don't rate Arthur's past achievements with South Africa. During his time as SA coach I could never fathom how a team of such talent continued to be so very mediocre. If that's what he does with talented teams I can only guess what will happen when he's in charge of a team that's already very mediocre (fellow Australian fans you know it's true). Also, at the risk of sounding nationalist, I think at this time (which is clearly one of the Aus's lowest ebbs) the coach needs to be an Australian to properly relate to the mental challenges facing the players. The team needs to rediscover the pride of representing their nation and the attitude that previous Aus teams have displayed and I'm not sure an international coach can help them do this, even if he has spent some time in WA.

  • Meety on November 23, 2011, 0:00 GMT

    @ zenboomerang - umm what stones did I throw? FYI - I've played Rugby & Volleyball with Saffas for almost 20 years & know in quite a bit of detail why so many emigrate to Oz. As for us all being 98% immigrants - that is completely FALSE! The majority of Ozzys were born in this country & therefor not immigrants. Even aboriginies could be considered immigrants as they migrated from China 40,000 years ago - where do you want to draw the line??? @Anthony Smeltink/redneck - yeah I was attempting to be funny & Rhodes popped into my head (mainly because he has been coaching around the world), actually thought Mark Waugh was a better fielder BTW - but I should of said Herschelle Gibbs instead. He could show us how to prematurely celebrate a catch that hasn't been taken yet I BET! == == == For what it's worth I'm happy to see how it pans out. Just as long as we don't lose heaps of Test series in a row & he gets his contract renewed!

  • on November 22, 2011, 23:57 GMT

    Excellent choice Micky Arthurs. Did well for SA & WA. I see Michael Clarke didn't get his way with this one being a Rixon man. Mickey Arthurs will have to watch his back if things aren't going good, ask Simon.

  • timmyw on November 22, 2011, 23:53 GMT

    I don't have a problem with this. In fact I have been hoping Arthur would enter this role with Australia for a long time now. I think this is the best thing that could have happened to Australian cricket. Can't wait to see what happens now, if Arthur is a selector there is no way he will tolerate garbage pie throwing from the likes of Johnson and Siddle, so they will either improve if they are persisted with or be shot out the door. I for one cannot wait.

  • DeathPoke on November 22, 2011, 22:54 GMT

    Definately the best man for the job! As Shaun Pollock put it "a man manager," exactley what Australia need to start climbing back up the rankings. What he has started at WA is exactley what needs to be done across the country - Selection based on performance - I just hope his first year as coach shows that this is his intent. Good luck Mickey!

  • zico123 on November 22, 2011, 22:24 GMT

    this should be the end of Mitchel Johnson, even though he made few runs, but he is not in side as a batter, he has been terribly wayward n inconsistant with the ball, he has been out of form for last 2 years, he is the most inconsistent bowler in the world, he delivers once in 6 months

  • zico123 on November 22, 2011, 22:02 GMT

    Australia somehow scrapped though, but Ponting at prime would have saw them home, not this Ponting, these should be the end of Ponting, as expected he didn't walk off, so selectors would have to take the hard call on his behalf, NZ series is the best time to blood in youth, no place for Ponting anymore who has passed his prime 2 years back

  • Wozza-CY on November 22, 2011, 20:06 GMT

    @gordo85- your 'anti- NSW' bias is blinding you to the facts. Cowan & Cameron are originally from NSW! If getting a baggy green was as simple as playig for NSW, why did Lyon, cowan, Cameron, krezja, a. Maher, Cooper, Christian, o'brien, Forest, Bird & berendorf all leave?

  • smudgeon on November 22, 2011, 19:37 GMT

    I don't get the whole issue people have with a "non-Australian" coach. Of the people who applied for the job, we can infer from his selection that Mickey Arthur was the best - country of origin is (and should be) a non-issue. Besides, Mickey has been coaching WA for a while now, and he's had success coaching at the highest level before that, why doubt his credentials because he's "not one of us"? If your favourite coach didn't get the job, it's probably because they didn't have what CA wanted. Or, perhaps, they just aren't good enough. Good luck, Mickey!

  • hhillbumper on November 22, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    Interesting move.Like the digs about county cricket and Englands importation policy.By the way are our best four players all imports.Cook,Swann,Broad and Anderson and Bell are all imports.Yes we have a Zimbabwean as a coach and frankly why not with what he brings to the team?

    Lets see what the Aussies do next.Only Cummins is a decent young talent and can you name the rest? The joke about Country Cricket was good though.Must be upsetting to lose so badly to a team built through County Crciket.

    See you at the next Ashes

  • subbass on November 22, 2011, 19:13 GMT

    Barnesy4444 " The poms best 4 players are not from Britain"

    Err..Jimmy Anderson not from the UK ? Graeme Swann not from the UK ? Alastair Cook not from the uk ?

    Ok then !

  • bumsonseats on November 22, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    the writings on the wall 1st a pakistani born batter, then a saffer coach. oh dear what will happen next. dont u just love it. dpk

  • thebigone on November 22, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    maybe the poor strength of aussie cricket is in need of a overseas coach. see what he can do for them, to bring them into the top 4. on a regular basis. he can but try god luck to him.

  • TheCaptayne on November 22, 2011, 15:47 GMT

    Barnsey4444 - if you include Strauss and Prior in that, you're wrong - they learned their cricket in Britain. I assume the other two are Trott and KP, and if so you're dead right there, great players but they should be playing for South Africa. I dont feel pride at them doing well. Rules should be tightened.

    The coach is different though. I've no problem with foreign coaches. We had the same argument for years in football - home grown England coaches are useless, so we have to go foreign. Good luck with yours.

  • dadagos11 on November 22, 2011, 15:32 GMT

    Where is Mr. Greg Chappal ? If they can go and coach India then why not Australia? He should step up and take the resposibilities and make Aus no.1 again.

  • landl47 on November 22, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    @ali00: they tried to pick Andy Flower. He decided to stick with the team he has taken to #1 in tests and T20 and which has a young talented side. Why would he leave?

  • on November 22, 2011, 13:52 GMT

    This is the best decision I think CA could make as far as the coach is concerned.

  • JimDavis on November 22, 2011, 13:49 GMT

    I can only hope he got the job because Greg Shipperd didn't want it. Considering the success Shipperd has had over the last 7 seasons, dominaiting all three forms of the game, with a bunch of players who as individuals have never been considered good enough to be play regularly for Australia.The role should have been his if he wanted it.

  • on November 22, 2011, 12:57 GMT

    full stop on ponting career

  • on November 22, 2011, 12:38 GMT

    "Local coach is always best"? The results speak forthemselves. Cricket Australia has swallowed its pride, but it needed several heavy defeats to get to that point.

  • AidanFX on November 22, 2011, 11:43 GMT

    I think this is a smart move - the guy has international experience with what was quality team (despite choker tag - more positives than negs). He's had a short break from the stress of leading an international team. He has spent time familiarizing himself with the Aus system, coming from the outside has probably observed some of the weaknesses us in OZ were ignorant of. I believe the interview process was done thorough and followed the recommendations of Argus.

  • on November 22, 2011, 11:03 GMT

    Excellent choice. Mickey will make the hard calls.

  • Barnesy4444 on November 22, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    The poms best 4 players are not from Britian, nor is their coach. Do we have such a lack of experienced past players in Australia that we need to import a coach? A local coach is always best.

  • ravi_hari on November 22, 2011, 10:45 GMT

    What a way to welcome the new Coach! Defeating the very team he coached and that too chasing a record score. Arthur, having worked with a tough and professional team like SA will be a good coach for Aussies. They need some new thinking and an outsider and one who has proved himself is definitely welcome. However, Arthur will have not only to build bridges with Clarke but with the entire Australian system. Thankfully he will have to deal with less seniors within the team with Clarke at the helm and Watson his deputy. The selection team is also new and that augurs well for the coach and the captain. To begin with Arthur should take the responsibility of talking to the seniors in the team like Ponting, Hussey, Haddin and Johnson that they need to perform to be in the side. As a coach he can communicate it better than Clarke and the reactions also would be positive. Second thing Arthur needs to do is to give confidence to the youngsters that they will be taken care well. All the best Mick

  • Gordo85 on November 22, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    Well done Mickey I was hoping you would get the gig !! To me there was going to be too much New South Wales involvement in the Australian Cricket Team anyway so having Mickey is a good pick. Also atleast it should be a level playing field which is a really good thing. NSW is currently in the Test team very much. Heck Tasmania won the Sheffield Shield last seasion and the only player in the International team at the moment is Ricky Ponting and Tim Paine even though he isn't playing at the moment. I want to see Mark Cosgrove get a look in again just look at his carrer stats, but sure he does need to improve a little bit moore. I say Arthur you are a good pick I watched you when you were with South Africa for those years and you didn't do a bad job at all. Also I hope Mark Cameron gets a look in at some stage for the International stage. Ed Cowan is another player.

  • bestbuddy on November 22, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    A bit confused about these 'won nothing' comments. Under Arthur South Africa were at one stage or another number 1 in tests, ODI's and t20 cricket, they chased down 438 in an ODI, won a test series in Aus for the first time (with another record chase), won a test series in England for the first time in 43 years. Of his last 12 test series in charge he lost just once, to Aus. I should also point out that he was a number of players choice for the position, including Shaun Marsh, who picked him over having his father there. And he has proven that he is not afraid to but deadwood away in his time At Western Ausralia. And while I think Rixon would have also been a good choice, he has not been successful in a coaching role in a decade; his time with Surrey was a complete failure despite them being the strongest (and richest) county side at the time.

  • ali00 on November 22, 2011, 10:13 GMT

    Why Cricket Australia didnt pick as a coach Andrew Flower

  • on November 22, 2011, 9:42 GMT

    This might tilt the upcoming series in India's favour.

  • on November 22, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    This is probably the Best thing to have happened with the Australian team

  • mattcritch12 on November 22, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    Congratulations Mickry Arthur! i think this is a well deserved appointment... People in Australia need to remember that games can be won and lost in a 'moment of luck' or individual brilliance on the part of an apponent. The tag of "chokers" that SA has develped isn't the fault of the coach, it comes down to losing those crunch games, which as memory serves me correct happens to the best of teams in all sports. Give him some credit, he was up against some great coaches for this possition and Cricket Australia have appointed him with the best interest of the national team in mind. i hope he succeeds, it seems unfair to write the guy off before he's had a chance to prove he is worthy of the job...

  • on November 22, 2011, 9:22 GMT

    A hope for Aussies to produce better cricketers

  • RandyOZ on November 22, 2011, 9:19 GMT

    I am utterly shocked and appalled. Our system is far stronger than England, we don't need to start importing!!!!!!!! I hope this guys reign is as short as KP's was.

  • RandyOZ on November 22, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    This is an absolutely disgraceful selection by CA. We are way better than England we do not need to follow their selection policies due to their poor county system. If he starts bringing in Saffers like Flower I will be absolutely appalled. Rixon should've got the job. This is a nightmare.

  • Micgyver on November 22, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    Honestly it wouldnt have mattered which bloke got the job as coach.The main thing is Australia has and always will have talented cricketers.It will only be a matter of time before we rise to the top in test match cricket again.England have their moment in the sun and all of a sudden their fans think they are part of a dynasty.For 15-20 years they were a joke..Sth Africa and India will once again be Australia's only threat.

  • Chris_P on November 22, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    @Paul Guthrie. Come on paulie! How about we ask Mickey Rooney, Mickey Rourke & Mickey Mantle to also change their names as well while we are at it. LOL......

  • correctcall on November 22, 2011, 8:36 GMT

    Hopefully one of Arthurs top priorities will be to address Aus spin weakness - bowling it and batting against it. Suggest he consider a sub continental spin expert be imported into each State and get the best for the national team. How about about Bahji and Murali for starters (just to stir the possum!)

  • HatsforBats on November 22, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    I'm not a fan of this decision. I think Rixon's personality & temperament would've been perfect for the job and that he was at the top of the list, Not really sure why they've gone with Arthur, unless it was just a case of his foreign insight being seen as the deciding factor. Rixon's hard line and relationship with Clarke could've done wonders for the team.

  • on November 22, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    @landl47-SPOT ON.cant pen this better.I logged in to post the same message but then saw yours as the first comment...We need to remember the 'n' times SA have choked (whatever) under Micky in iCC events.Of course u cant blame it all on Arthur but Rixon/Marsh would have been a better choice..and surely we cant owe the emergence of Steyn and batting of Kallis and Amla to Arthur, can we (the reason for SA's victories in the subcontinent,a notable achievement in Micky's CV other than the ones mentioned by Landl..)Aussies are definitely not chokers and wont choke either but there is going to be conflict between this coach and the next gen Aussie team..mark my words

  • on November 22, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    we did reach the status of the no1 test team, for your information.

  • on November 22, 2011, 7:57 GMT

    I agree 100% with @landl47. Arthur took other a good South African team with lots of potential to be a great team and left a good team with a bit of potential to be a great team. Despite what's written here he lacked the backbone to stand up to Cricket SA or Graeme Smith.

  • on November 22, 2011, 7:49 GMT

    It seems bizarre that Cricket Australia let Steve Rixon go again. However I'm not complaining. Arthur is an inferior coach, and does not give them the mental strength that Rixon would. I'm expecting we are going to hear the words "rebuilding phase" quite a lot over the next few years.

  • danielb999 on November 22, 2011, 7:22 GMT

    @landl47 In a way I agree with your point. But remember he knows what is needed to have a sucessful team and that is what Australia needs. He will be able to bring in some good tactics and playing styles. I congratulate Cricket Australia and think it is a great choice for head coach

  • diteras on November 22, 2011, 7:19 GMT

    Given that South Africa have never really won anything in particular and have ''achieved '' - the tag of ''chokers'' with some justification - It is odd that half of the test playing countries ( the successful half too) are now coached by a Saffer ( or Zimbabwean which is as near as makes no difference) I wonder why that us?

  • DazTaylor on November 22, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    A completely over rated coach who spends more time in his press conferences talking down the opposition instead of focusing on his own side. He won absolutely nothing as SA coach except he managed to find defeat from certain victory. Will be a massive flop.

  • Matt. on November 22, 2011, 7:17 GMT

    I think this probably a good thing...the only thing that worries me is his support for Johnson. Hopefully with 5 selectors he'll be outvoted. Then again can't see Clarke voting out Mitch

  • landl47 on November 22, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    Arthur's nationality isn't an issue. What is an issue is that at SA he took one of the most talented groups of players in any country and won.... nothing. Yes, SA beat Aus in Aus, but then promptly lost the return series in SA. That's almost his only credential. SA haven't been to a World Cup final or won the T20, have not been the #1 test country and have found ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on too many occasions to count. Anyone keeping track of his recent pronouncements from WA must realise that the guy has a very flimsy grasp on cricketing reality. I thought the other appointments (Inverarity, Marsh, Bichel) were excellent, but this is a step backwards. As an England fan, I want the Australian side to be the best they can be; then any victory we get (and they've been hard to come by in recent decades) is truly worthwhile. A mediocre Aus side is no fun at all. I don't see Arthur leading Aus back to the top.

  • MenFromMarts on November 22, 2011, 6:42 GMT

    @Paul Guthrie - lighten up Paulie.

  • goldenfish on November 22, 2011, 6:36 GMT

    welcome Australia Mickey ........

  • shuvo_bba on November 22, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    I don't suppose that it's a bad move. The decision is more likely dependent on how Arthur & Clarke are gonna do it with new reconstruction strategies. I believe Arthur has got some pure capabilities of man-management which will help Aussies get the best squad for different formats of the game and get the best results heading to regain The World Cup back at home. Also looking forward to Steve Rixon, Justin Langer & Craig Mcdermott jelling together with Arthur & Clarke Co. Best of luck Aussies....

  • satish619chandar on November 22, 2011, 6:11 GMT

    Good coach and good team.. Hope they blend well..

  • Gupta.Ankur on November 22, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    I don't think any coach would be as successful as Buchanan.......simply because aussies are now a team of average cricketers........

    You will never see them touching the same heights again.......

  • KarmatBaig on November 22, 2011, 5:56 GMT

    Steve Rixon would have been the best choice, hope that Australia don't become "CHOKERS' under Micky.

  • on November 22, 2011, 5:47 GMT

    @Alex400, I absolutely agree. India is 30 countries united into one, with mind-boggling diversity. Foreign coach is a must in India, local coaches have failed. I think Australia fell down hard after being on top for so many years. That must have hurt. But whoever soars high must also fall down one day. Whether one bounces back is another story.

  • on November 22, 2011, 5:43 GMT

    Wow I rate Mickey Arthur, Australia are going going to rise to the top again *sigh

  • jonesy2 on November 22, 2011, 5:35 GMT

    looks like coulter nile and beer are a big chance to play test cricket. not to mention mitch marsh will be put in as soon as possible. marcus north comeback? nice. Ratwo --- i have no idea why australia wouldnt want a spin coach, someone like kumble to coach the spinners would be ideal in my opinion

  • nasshhh on November 22, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    I would have fancied Warnie for the job....he was doing a fine as coach n player for Rajasthan royals and he also has the respect of all the senior aussie players!

  • OutCast on November 22, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    Australia would've been better off with someone else. Micky never guided SA to glory, just like Bob Woolmer. I'd call this just above Fletcher, yet it won't bring any glory to Aus. BTW, I don't see Clarke an elite batsman or a great captain. His choice of bowling were not so sound, and his ability to read swing/seam bowling seem pretty much a grade 1 item as well. Trust me, Clarke won't last long like Ricky lasted.

  • ajayrcs on November 22, 2011, 4:47 GMT

    Happy with the sellection hopefully he will prove Greg chappel wrong that there are no talents in Australia.

  • on November 22, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    Good selection! However, I think a man of 43 years should move away from his childhood name of" Mickey" and utilise either his given name of John, or even Mike or Michael. "Mickey" only reminds me children and Mickey Mouse!

  • Scgboy on November 22, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    I approve this move, something a bit different , with someone who see things from a slightly different angle. Just whats needed.

  • Sanj747 on November 22, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    What happens to Langer, Rixon and McDermott.

  • LesGrossman on November 22, 2011, 4:25 GMT

    poor choice. he talks in cliches and not in fact, nothing but a used car salesman, but looks like he fooled pat howard, jimmy sutherland and the other cronies at CA. He sold them a lemon! All those in the loop know that Graeme Smith ran the show during his time in South Africa and Marcus North does the same now in WA cricket. @itchy, you made the best comment on here!

  • RightArmEverything on November 22, 2011, 4:23 GMT

    I just hope him and Clarke get along as well as Clarke and Rixon do, and I hope the selectors have taken that into account. I hope they got Clarke's input into the selection, as he said he wanted to be involved. Also agree with Woody111 that Johnson might have a better chance of sticking around after Arthur's recent comments, although the coach is just one of five selectors.

  • zenboomerang on November 22, 2011, 4:14 GMT

    @Meety... re: Mickeys Aus citizenship... re-read the article or ask them for a retraction... his family are looking to get a "permanent Australian residentship"... quite a different thing... aka USA greencard... & yes I have many South African expats friends here in Oz... most want citizenship &/or residentship... Similar climate... Love rugby/cricket/sport... Lots of good work/education opportunities... & I have family living/married in SA & NZ... Seems we love to compete against each other & like each others countries... Considering 98% of Australians are immigrants I wouldn't throw stones...

  • Micgyver on November 22, 2011, 3:59 GMT

    Australia now has a Sth African cricket coach,Kiwi Union coach and Dutch Soccer coach so it doesnt surprise me.I would have rather Tom Moody but at the end of the day im happy if firstly he produces the results and ultimately returns us to the number 1 ranked test nation in the world and wins back the Ashes,and secondly the guy isnt a Pom.

  • generalshibby23 on November 22, 2011, 3:56 GMT

    Are you for real Brumby90? So far the new selectors are worse than the "Hilditch Led panel" They have only picked one side - the Australian A team to face the Kiwi's. Give them a break mate.

  • Alexk400 on November 22, 2011, 3:56 GMT

    There is a reason india need FOREIGN coaches not australia. India is a divided country with so much divesrsity , foreign coaches unite them. Aussies do not have that issue. It is more about talent and skill Australia has immense talent in every place. There is a lack of leadership in australian cricket board it looks like. They should have selected australian coach. Bad move.

  • Alexk400 on November 22, 2011, 3:53 GMT

    SHAME. BAD BAD BAD. I am indian but i don't think mickey arthur was good coach. Aussie needs aussie coach. Worst decision by australia. He choked with South africa team , he will be mediocre.

  • unregisteredalien on November 22, 2011, 3:52 GMT

    @Brumby90, try to pay attention, the new selection panel is only now taking up the reins. Well, let's see how Arthur does. He seems to have cred but I am a bit worried about entrenched loyalties - to WA players, to Johnson (as others have said) and to future members of the Aus team. It's already seemingly impossible to dislodge dead weight from the club - Arthur had better be as willing to make the tough calls as some say he is. We need a hard nut like Simpson was.

  • TheLoneStranger on November 22, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    Yet another screw-up by Cricket Australia. Steve Rixon should have been a shoe-in! Oooops, sorry, he's an Aussie, isn't he!

  • strygwyr on November 22, 2011, 3:48 GMT

    I don't think it's a great choice. I hope he doesn't bring the "choker" tag from his South African days to the Australian team. Aus needed a new coach with some fresh ideas. From his South African days, I think too defensive of a coach, which goes against australian cricket philosophy....I guess they following the rest of the top teams by appointing south african coaches...Eng, Ind.....

  • on November 22, 2011, 3:48 GMT

    hopefully micky allows the youngsters a decent crack and realises johnson needs to go find form desperatley. also haddin must go as well as hughes but leave punta he is to good to drop and a big score is juts round the corner. my team for first test. 1.warner 2.khawaja 3.s.marsh 4.R.Ponting 5.m.clarke 6.m.hussey 7.m.wade 8.b.cutting 9.p.cummins 10.r.harris 11.n.lyon (watson inured ) i want to see in the odis and aussie A games the likes of m.marsh , j.faulkner , g.maxwell, g.bailey , t.cooper , n.maddison (future star) , s.okeefe , c.ferguson ,m.starc , n.coulter-nile all give a crack to show the talent they have performed domestically. if the new panel is going to do what the say they are future looks very bright . pat cummins being the biggest example.

  • takenaback on November 22, 2011, 3:36 GMT

    Without disrespect to Arthur and I hope he does a good job but couldn't we find an Australian for the coaching position? We are at the bottom of the trough so I think whoever the coach is will be credited with the revival.

  • boooonnie on November 22, 2011, 3:34 GMT

    lets hope this decision has more of a Guus Hiddick outcome than a Robbie Deans outcome

  • on November 22, 2011, 3:24 GMT

    Come on Meety! There's no big deal wrong with going for non-Aussie staff! We can't afford to be stuck in the past era! I was disappointed when Donald was not picked up as bowling coach though McDermott was also a very impressive cricketer...

  • redneck on November 22, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    hes a good appointment. normally anyone not aussie being appointed would be cause for alarm but micky when at south africa had and intalled the same mindset in that team that reminded me of australian teams with waugh. taylor and border in charge. @Meety daryl cullinan as coach would be a hoot, just imagine a batsman coming to him for advice against spin? hed be all at sea! @MenFromMarts agreed coulter niles stock just went up 10 fold, a ODI debut on the cards for sure and maybe a test gig too if mitch keeps striking out.

  • straight_drive4 on November 22, 2011, 3:11 GMT

    not a big fan of this decision. i think a home grown coach is vital as countries develop and "on-field" hatred for other countries and thats what fires them up to play well against them... left on the field of course. would mickey arthur encourage this sort of hard nosed cricket that we need when we play south africa? getting stuck into the oppostion? probably not. hope he proves me wrong but i would have thought an australian coach would have been better - preferably steve rixon. at least that way you can be 100% certain that they will go to all measures to win. i would find it very odd if mickey arthur (who has a very good relationship with a lot of the south african players) would say "this is graeme smiths weakness, this is kallis weakness, bowl him a bouncer, get into him etc etc" time will tell but i wish him all the best for our teams sake.

  • on November 22, 2011, 3:06 GMT

    @ Meety what would be wrong with Jonty Rhodes being the fielding coach??? Having the greatest fielder ever coaching our players would be awesome.

  • on November 22, 2011, 3:02 GMT

    best man....mike will take Australia to another level.......

  • Ratwo on November 22, 2011, 2:57 GMT

    I doubt if we will ever see the day when an Indian is considered for coaching vacancy for a top team like Australia, NZ, SA, WI, or England. Anyone wants to guess why? I hope one of these days one of our legendary spinners get appointed as a "spinner" coach for some overseas team. Probably Kumble is the only one with the needed professionalism for the job.

  • Tristy on November 22, 2011, 2:55 GMT

    A good choice for new coach. Hopefully he gets these blokes out of their comfort zones and start making the tough decisions that need to be made. Johnson and Ponting have to be the first to go!!! Start making some changes with the batting coz we cant keep putting up mediocre scores and expect to take 20 wickets and win test matches. It just aint gunna happen otherwise!!!

  • Sanj747 on November 22, 2011, 2:50 GMT

    Like the comments on Jonty Rhodes and Cullinan by Meety. Also agree with Woody11. Let's hope they can jointly make the tough calls necessary.

  • MenFromMarts on November 22, 2011, 2:49 GMT

    Happy with this. The "Boys Club" mentality is being stretched. Well done Pat Howard. Watch for Coulter-Nile now. @Meety. I wouldn't mind Jonty as a fielding coach but Cullinan as batting coach would be very funny. I also reckon Ricky might get a reprieve under Mickey. Mickey, Ricky, Patty, Shaney, Mikey, Mitchy, Ussi, Douggie, Hughesie, Haurie, WARNIE !!!

  • Brumby90 on November 22, 2011, 2:42 GMT

    What a disgrace !!!!!!! hang your heads in shame cricket Australia!!!!!!. So far these new selectors and those who have moved into the head positions have shown they are even worse then the Hilditch lead team. To hire a guy who just a few years agow as insulting the Australian cricket team and made his dislike of it clear, he is now placed in charge. What a joke. The last thing Australian cricket needs is a negative SA attitude. He will not last !!!!!!!!.

  • Chris_Howard on November 22, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    it's hard not to think that he has been grooming himself for this role for the last 2 years. It seems like he had the foresight to see this opportunity on the horizon and did what needed to be done to have the best possible chance. Good qualities for a coach! Look forward to Australia playing under him.

  • Itchy on November 22, 2011, 2:39 GMT

    So when will the heads of CA be rolling after extending Tim Nielsen's contract - before or after the details of his severance payout!

  • RightArmEverything on November 22, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    Disappointed Rixon didn't get it.

  • Meety on November 22, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    I suppose with Robbie Deans coaching the Wallabies, now Arthurs coaching the boys in the Baggy Green, ( & any number of foreigners in Soccer), all that needs to happen now is Ellery Hanley coach the Kangaroos & all our "sacred cows" will have been slaughtered!!!! LOL!!!!!! On top of that Des Haselar at the Bulldogs, NOW I feel sick!!!!!!!!!!

  • Meety on November 22, 2011, 2:24 GMT

    The newspaper up this way reported he was getting Oz citizenship! I suppose the biggest hint he had the job was all the talk about having to give notice. I would of walked naked to the back of Burke (non-Ozzy fans that's a bloody long way), if Rixon didn't get the nod. Glad I didn't actually put that down as a bet! == == == If Arthur wasn't already coaching in Oz - I'd say no way! I would prefer that we didn't go outside Oz for the position. Looks like the Saffas are not only exporting their players - they are now exporting their coaches. Just as long as we don't end up with Jonty Rhodes as fielding coach & Daryl Cullinan as bating coach, I'll be OK!!!!!! == == == Anyways - he'll do OK, (I think?).

  • RodStark on November 22, 2011, 2:23 GMT

    Probably a fine choice, but I am finding it odd that top countries are willing to pick up ex-coaches of other top countries (cf. Fletcher in India). Would have thought that "pride" would interfere at the international level, and presumably they left or got fired from their earlier post for a reason. But good luck to him anyway.

  • Woody111 on November 22, 2011, 2:08 GMT

    Looks like Johnson will keep his spot then

  • bobagorof on November 22, 2011, 2:00 GMT

    Well I guess that means we'll be stuck with Johnson in the side for the forseeable future, if Arthur's previous comments are anything to go by. And it should also give Beer some hope.

  • on November 22, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    The best man chosen for the job!

  • on November 22, 2011, 1:50 GMT

    Fantastic decision.

    Not one of the boys. Just one of the worlds best coaches.

  • on November 22, 2011, 1:49 GMT

    Sounds like a good move. An Exciting time for Australian cricket beckons.

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  • on November 22, 2011, 1:49 GMT

    Sounds like a good move. An Exciting time for Australian cricket beckons.

  • on November 22, 2011, 1:50 GMT

    Fantastic decision.

    Not one of the boys. Just one of the worlds best coaches.

  • on November 22, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    The best man chosen for the job!

  • bobagorof on November 22, 2011, 2:00 GMT

    Well I guess that means we'll be stuck with Johnson in the side for the forseeable future, if Arthur's previous comments are anything to go by. And it should also give Beer some hope.

  • Woody111 on November 22, 2011, 2:08 GMT

    Looks like Johnson will keep his spot then

  • RodStark on November 22, 2011, 2:23 GMT

    Probably a fine choice, but I am finding it odd that top countries are willing to pick up ex-coaches of other top countries (cf. Fletcher in India). Would have thought that "pride" would interfere at the international level, and presumably they left or got fired from their earlier post for a reason. But good luck to him anyway.

  • Meety on November 22, 2011, 2:24 GMT

    The newspaper up this way reported he was getting Oz citizenship! I suppose the biggest hint he had the job was all the talk about having to give notice. I would of walked naked to the back of Burke (non-Ozzy fans that's a bloody long way), if Rixon didn't get the nod. Glad I didn't actually put that down as a bet! == == == If Arthur wasn't already coaching in Oz - I'd say no way! I would prefer that we didn't go outside Oz for the position. Looks like the Saffas are not only exporting their players - they are now exporting their coaches. Just as long as we don't end up with Jonty Rhodes as fielding coach & Daryl Cullinan as bating coach, I'll be OK!!!!!! == == == Anyways - he'll do OK, (I think?).

  • Meety on November 22, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    I suppose with Robbie Deans coaching the Wallabies, now Arthurs coaching the boys in the Baggy Green, ( & any number of foreigners in Soccer), all that needs to happen now is Ellery Hanley coach the Kangaroos & all our "sacred cows" will have been slaughtered!!!! LOL!!!!!! On top of that Des Haselar at the Bulldogs, NOW I feel sick!!!!!!!!!!

  • RightArmEverything on November 22, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    Disappointed Rixon didn't get it.

  • Itchy on November 22, 2011, 2:39 GMT

    So when will the heads of CA be rolling after extending Tim Nielsen's contract - before or after the details of his severance payout!