Australia news July 7, 2012

Mitchell Marsh sent back home after night out

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Mitchell Marsh, the Western Australia allrounder, has been sent back home to Perth from the Centre of Excellence as a disciplinary measure. Marsh was found "unfit to train" on Saturday after a night out.

"While the incident in isolation was not serious, he was already on a final warning," a Cricket Australia release said. "As such, it was decided he should be sent home to Perth."

Marsh, 20, who has played three Twenty20 internationals and one ODI for Australia so far, was named one of the stand-out Australian players to watch out for by Shane Warne earlier in the year. He captained Australia U-19 to victory in the U-19 World Cup in 2010, and was part of the Perth Scorchers side that made it to the final of the Big Bash League. But a stress injury to his back in February this year meant he had to miss the rest of the domestic season.

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  • Meety on July 10, 2012, 2:31 GMT

    @Gilly4ever - I'd cut the selectors some slack over not sending him to England for either tours, as he did get an injury towards the end of February that was supposed to sideline him until the end of August.

  • Meety on July 10, 2012, 1:37 GMT

    @katandthat3/Gilly4ever - Il ike MMarsh & hope that he blossoms, although I am worried by the fact it took SMarsh about a decade to start looking good (only for it to be a false dawn). MMarsh's bowling is his stronger suite in the longer forms of the game, I'd like to see him double his FC batting stats before Test selection, which should take a minimum of 2yrs. Happy for him to be in the ODI & T20 squad batting around #6 to #8, (potential to bat higher if wickets in hand). @katandthat3- would like to see Butterworth get a go, he looks like a good #8, specialist bowler, useful batsmen. Felt sorry for AB Mac, on the eve of the Ashes, he had a sensational start to the Shield (from memory twin 100s v a full strength NSW & in a low scoring match & took wickets), but he got injured, - whether he would of ben considered is anybody's guess. He blitzed last years Friends Life T20 in England (player of the tournament?) - so I don't know why he doesn't get a T20 gig?

  • katandthat3 on July 9, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    @Gilly4ever, Agree 100%. Mitch Marsh is the business. He doesn't have 5 years of FC stats behind him but you can just tell. Steve Waugh was the same and took a while to proser in Tests but made his way in ODI first and they gave him a crack really young. Some players you trust your instincts and he is one of them. He'll pull his head in after this and get stuck in. Meanwhile if they want to consider a test allrounder, what did Andrew McDonald ever do wrong?? Butterworth is another (FC 2000 runs @27 and 160 wickets @24, handy bowling allrounder option). Keen to see how Coulter-Nile & Faulkner go this season also.

  • derpherp on July 9, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    @Gilly4ever well you seem very confident about him, but his stats so far dont impress me. 31 innings with 1 century and an average of 21 at first class level? bowling stats are average. i know he is still young and inexperienced, but i can think of other players who would be just as suitable as you think mitch is.

  • Ozcricketwriter on July 9, 2012, 2:24 GMT

    I would put Mitchell Marsh in the test team, but not immediately. I'd give him some more ODIs first. This tour to England would have been perfect for him. If he did well, he'd be straight into the test team. If he did poorly, then wait a bit longer. I can bet that Mitch Marsh would have impressed. He is a real star. Future Australian captain in all 3 formats, I can guarantee it.

  • zenboomerang on July 8, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    I wonder if the WACA's decision to yield to Mitch's contract price the other day was partially to blame for this & that both WA & Marsh would have been better off if they hadn't?... Marsh should have really looked at moving interstate (which he turned down) away from family to concentrate on his cricketing future - a moot point now... Not bagging T20's, but the extra money in recent years seems to have dropped the behavioural standards of a number of young cricketers...

  • zenboomerang on July 8, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    @jmcilhinney... Funny, my 1st thought was of Ponting with his black eye from a Kings X nightclub... His dropping from the Oz team was the best thing that ever happened to him - made him have a good hard look in the mirror... A pity that many others, worse behaving Oz cricketers from previous decades were not given the same or harder sentences - do the crime against your employment & then do the time away from all cricket, including loss of contract wages...

  • jmcilhinney on July 8, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Andrew Symonds' name was the first thing that popped into my head when I read this, as it apparently was for a few others. The guy is young and we can all make mistakes but this is apparently not an isolated incident so I hope it isn't a sign of things to come. It's always a shame when talent gets wasted because of off-field issues.

  • skkh on July 8, 2012, 2:18 GMT

    And I was thinking that this bloke had a future in our Aussie test and ODI sides. He is doing what Symonds did in his peak. Sad indeed.

  • Meety on July 8, 2012, 0:51 GMT

    @Gilly4ever - are you saying in the test team?

  • Meety on July 10, 2012, 2:31 GMT

    @Gilly4ever - I'd cut the selectors some slack over not sending him to England for either tours, as he did get an injury towards the end of February that was supposed to sideline him until the end of August.

  • Meety on July 10, 2012, 1:37 GMT

    @katandthat3/Gilly4ever - Il ike MMarsh & hope that he blossoms, although I am worried by the fact it took SMarsh about a decade to start looking good (only for it to be a false dawn). MMarsh's bowling is his stronger suite in the longer forms of the game, I'd like to see him double his FC batting stats before Test selection, which should take a minimum of 2yrs. Happy for him to be in the ODI & T20 squad batting around #6 to #8, (potential to bat higher if wickets in hand). @katandthat3- would like to see Butterworth get a go, he looks like a good #8, specialist bowler, useful batsmen. Felt sorry for AB Mac, on the eve of the Ashes, he had a sensational start to the Shield (from memory twin 100s v a full strength NSW & in a low scoring match & took wickets), but he got injured, - whether he would of ben considered is anybody's guess. He blitzed last years Friends Life T20 in England (player of the tournament?) - so I don't know why he doesn't get a T20 gig?

  • katandthat3 on July 9, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    @Gilly4ever, Agree 100%. Mitch Marsh is the business. He doesn't have 5 years of FC stats behind him but you can just tell. Steve Waugh was the same and took a while to proser in Tests but made his way in ODI first and they gave him a crack really young. Some players you trust your instincts and he is one of them. He'll pull his head in after this and get stuck in. Meanwhile if they want to consider a test allrounder, what did Andrew McDonald ever do wrong?? Butterworth is another (FC 2000 runs @27 and 160 wickets @24, handy bowling allrounder option). Keen to see how Coulter-Nile & Faulkner go this season also.

  • derpherp on July 9, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    @Gilly4ever well you seem very confident about him, but his stats so far dont impress me. 31 innings with 1 century and an average of 21 at first class level? bowling stats are average. i know he is still young and inexperienced, but i can think of other players who would be just as suitable as you think mitch is.

  • Ozcricketwriter on July 9, 2012, 2:24 GMT

    I would put Mitchell Marsh in the test team, but not immediately. I'd give him some more ODIs first. This tour to England would have been perfect for him. If he did well, he'd be straight into the test team. If he did poorly, then wait a bit longer. I can bet that Mitch Marsh would have impressed. He is a real star. Future Australian captain in all 3 formats, I can guarantee it.

  • zenboomerang on July 8, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    I wonder if the WACA's decision to yield to Mitch's contract price the other day was partially to blame for this & that both WA & Marsh would have been better off if they hadn't?... Marsh should have really looked at moving interstate (which he turned down) away from family to concentrate on his cricketing future - a moot point now... Not bagging T20's, but the extra money in recent years seems to have dropped the behavioural standards of a number of young cricketers...

  • zenboomerang on July 8, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    @jmcilhinney... Funny, my 1st thought was of Ponting with his black eye from a Kings X nightclub... His dropping from the Oz team was the best thing that ever happened to him - made him have a good hard look in the mirror... A pity that many others, worse behaving Oz cricketers from previous decades were not given the same or harder sentences - do the crime against your employment & then do the time away from all cricket, including loss of contract wages...

  • jmcilhinney on July 8, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Andrew Symonds' name was the first thing that popped into my head when I read this, as it apparently was for a few others. The guy is young and we can all make mistakes but this is apparently not an isolated incident so I hope it isn't a sign of things to come. It's always a shame when talent gets wasted because of off-field issues.

  • skkh on July 8, 2012, 2:18 GMT

    And I was thinking that this bloke had a future in our Aussie test and ODI sides. He is doing what Symonds did in his peak. Sad indeed.

  • Meety on July 8, 2012, 0:51 GMT

    @Gilly4ever - are you saying in the test team?

  • hhillbumper on July 7, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    He should be in England.He needs to learn how to play and we could show him

  • Ozcricketwriter on July 7, 2012, 15:54 GMT

    Mitch Marsh is an awful lot better than Peter Forrest... Marsh can and has won games for Australia. Forrest loses them.

  • derpherp on July 7, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    @Gilly4ever mate, Mitch Marsh is nowhere near world standard. he needs to play way more first class and list a matchs. once he gets a few more games under his belt, then maybe, but definitively not now/

  • Harvey on July 7, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    @Arun Nair, there are millions of workers all over the world who face worse than just being disciplined for turning up to work unfit after a night out. In my job and countless others, you would face not only the sack, but prosecution. That doesn't mean people in those jobs don't go out , it means they're sensible about how late they stay out, and recognise that there's a time and a place for everything. If you're a professional sportsman, the time for a late night on the town is not before you have a game or training session in the morning.

  • Meety on July 7, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    He was already on a warning, you'd think he'd learn from his brother who had some discipline issues at WA! @Arun Nair - you certainly get written up for a warning if you are unfit for work! Should you be on some form of "FInal Warning" & offend, you certainly can get sacked. @Gilly4ever - when you say "should" do you mean (assuming fully fit) - NOW? If so I have to disagree big time when it comes to tests. He needs at least 2 seasons of big scoring in the shield - or alternatively wicket taking. Happy for him to play the short forms - providing he displays improved discipline!

  • Ozcricketwriter on July 7, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    Mitch should be a fixture in all 3 forms of the game. Future Australian captain. Was the disciplined aimed at creating captaincy material?

  • on July 7, 2012, 7:57 GMT

    @Arun He was found unfit to train and it was apparently not a first offence. For that I think this is fair enough.

  • caughtatcover on July 7, 2012, 7:56 GMT

    Discipline is one of the corner stone for success. Hope young Mitchell learns from this as he has a bright future ahead of him.

  • jonesy2 on July 7, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    i saw him out last weekend in fremantle. who cares its the off season. he should be in england in the ODI team if he is fit to play anyway.

  • on July 7, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    This person has done an Andrew Symonds, don't do it again. Australia will not select you if you repeat the offence.

  • on July 7, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    do we get sacked / suspended from attending work just because we had a night out. Discpline is fine but during office hours not 24/7.

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  • on July 7, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    do we get sacked / suspended from attending work just because we had a night out. Discpline is fine but during office hours not 24/7.

  • on July 7, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    This person has done an Andrew Symonds, don't do it again. Australia will not select you if you repeat the offence.

  • jonesy2 on July 7, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    i saw him out last weekend in fremantle. who cares its the off season. he should be in england in the ODI team if he is fit to play anyway.

  • caughtatcover on July 7, 2012, 7:56 GMT

    Discipline is one of the corner stone for success. Hope young Mitchell learns from this as he has a bright future ahead of him.

  • on July 7, 2012, 7:57 GMT

    @Arun He was found unfit to train and it was apparently not a first offence. For that I think this is fair enough.

  • Ozcricketwriter on July 7, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    Mitch should be a fixture in all 3 forms of the game. Future Australian captain. Was the disciplined aimed at creating captaincy material?

  • Meety on July 7, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    He was already on a warning, you'd think he'd learn from his brother who had some discipline issues at WA! @Arun Nair - you certainly get written up for a warning if you are unfit for work! Should you be on some form of "FInal Warning" & offend, you certainly can get sacked. @Gilly4ever - when you say "should" do you mean (assuming fully fit) - NOW? If so I have to disagree big time when it comes to tests. He needs at least 2 seasons of big scoring in the shield - or alternatively wicket taking. Happy for him to play the short forms - providing he displays improved discipline!

  • Harvey on July 7, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    @Arun Nair, there are millions of workers all over the world who face worse than just being disciplined for turning up to work unfit after a night out. In my job and countless others, you would face not only the sack, but prosecution. That doesn't mean people in those jobs don't go out , it means they're sensible about how late they stay out, and recognise that there's a time and a place for everything. If you're a professional sportsman, the time for a late night on the town is not before you have a game or training session in the morning.

  • derpherp on July 7, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    @Gilly4ever mate, Mitch Marsh is nowhere near world standard. he needs to play way more first class and list a matchs. once he gets a few more games under his belt, then maybe, but definitively not now/

  • Ozcricketwriter on July 7, 2012, 15:54 GMT

    Mitch Marsh is an awful lot better than Peter Forrest... Marsh can and has won games for Australia. Forrest loses them.