Politics April 3, 2008

No way back for Ashraf

Instead of him suing Shoaib, the many millions of people around the world who hold Pakistan cricket dear might feel justified in a legal action against Ashraf for damaging the reputation of Pakistan cricket
226

You might not have imagined it but it has happened. After finishing Shoaib Akhtar's career with a punishment that didn't fit the crime, Nasim Ashraf should really have expected a backlash from the cricketer himself, his fans, and most neutral observers.

Some of Shoaib's retaliatory comments might have hurt. They might have even crossed the line of what is fair, decent, and lawful but leading any organisation, especially a high profile one, requires a healthy dose of judgment and wisdom. By choosing to sue Shoaib for a multi-million dollar payout, Ashraf has confirmed that he has neither in sufficient supply to head a nationally important organisation.

Indeed, instead of him suing Shoaib, the many millions of people around the world who hold Pakistan cricket dear might feel justified in a legal action against Ashraf for damaging the reputation of Pakistan cricket. This farce has become an international joke. The patron of Pakistan cricket has to bring this stupidity to an end. Earlier this week, I said--with irony--way to go Dr Ashraf. I'll amend that to: Time to go.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • Emmly on December 23, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    Time to face the music armed with this great inrfmoation.

  • cricketbyjaws on April 11, 2008, 3:04 GMT

    The way issues are handled in the sub-continent are very unprofessional. The cricketing merits and demerits get lost in the personality issues, political one-upmanship, public pressure, endless media analysis and exposure, sensationalism, etc. etc. Such issues needs to be judged purely on cricketing merits which include performance (or under performance), discipline, interest or lack of it, team composition and stability, impact on upcoming cricketers, image of nation and seriousness of the action by that particular individual. I believe if this whole saga of Shoib Akhtar has been handled in a professional manner keeping in mind the issues discussed above, then the outcome would have been different. Shoaib Akhtar may still have qualified for reprimand, he may have reacted differently (rather than using media to defend himself) and the country would have saved the embarrasment it is going through. But will we in sub-continent ever learn? The answer is not encouraging.

  • Martin Hook on April 11, 2008, 0:48 GMT

    I am humbled by support of cricket lovers at this blog. There would be few who like to troll but we should deviate from having meaningful, healthy discussion. I think Shoaib Akhtar was a bad influence on the team and his final act was too brazen for even superlax administrators. After introducing new players to steroids and then assaulting one of them in dressing room, the only logical course of action is the expulsion. We are somehow thinking that if Shiab is wrong, Mr. Ashraf is right and reverse but that may not be necessarily true. Both should be judged on the merit. But Meritocracy would be a paradox in a feudal society. For all the faults, except for Zimbabwe all countries have democratically elected board. That is what is at the root of the problem.

  • Bingo Haley on April 10, 2008, 22:35 GMT

    NO NO NO, we who support Shoaib Akhtar are stupid NATIVE idiots

  • Imran on April 10, 2008, 22:05 GMT

    I don't understand why Naseem Ashraf was selected to lead the cricket board when he was a medical professional with no link to cricket better than what I have with it. But letting Shoaib Akhter go after another disciplinary breach is also not a wise thing to do. He has created so many problems over the course of his career that I am sure Pakistan cricket can survive better without him. How many series he has really played? Is he a regular member? A single match is enough to make him unfit. I think the ban on Shoaib is a alot late but justified. Why can't Pakistani nation support the decision taken by the authorities? Why do we have to politicize every thing?

  • F KHAN on April 10, 2008, 22:02 GMT

    Everyone agress that Shoaib is a bad fish so what is the problem. There is a guy who has the guts to get rid of him and now everyone is complaining. There is nothing higher than the prestige of the country. If you play for the country, you behave and if you do not know how to behave, you are out. This is what happens everywhere in the world. We Pakistanis have to learn to move forward and not backward.

  • cricketexpert on April 10, 2008, 17:02 GMT

    All you people who support Shoaib Akhtar are stupid naive idiots

  • irfan on April 10, 2008, 14:07 GMT

    Omar,

    Why don't you realize that whether its one year, two or five its all the same as our hero never had and never will have a fitness level to justify his selection. Honestly I fail to understand that why don't WE as a nation conclude that OURs is a mediocre team! And has been for past few years. What is the harm in that? We keep on trumpeting our past glory and therefore expect from these mediocre players too much, to what avail? Whatever performance is left in them cannot be extracted because of this pressure.

    The sooner we realize this the sooner will we be able to do something about it. Granted, though, there may have been flashes of brilliance, and there always are. But they are just that! Flashes of brilliance. Consistency in performance in the prevalent playing schedules and conditions demand a severe discipline, which is beyond the ability of current set of players.

  • Chaudary Imran Chandio on April 10, 2008, 9:40 GMT

    Salaam to all, This is sad new for sure on Shoaib who in my mind and eyes has done some great things for Pakistan cricket and also some bad, which I think everyone is prone to as human beings we are not all perfect. There are however 2 sides to every story in Nasim Ashraf's defence I must say that Shoaib has made him look stupid and as he is in a position of such importance he has to do something,I mean this saga with Shoaib has been going on for some time now, he first allegedly took drugs and was banned the whole world was made very aware of this,then for the PCB to overturn the ban and expect the cricket world to accept this is wrong,that is the first thing Mr Ashraf should be ashamed of he and his trusted team have hurt Pakistan cricket and also riuned a players reputation. Although the Pcb have given Shoaib many chances they should have dealt with these issues a lot better. This whole thing of hitting Asif should have been kept under wraps and should have been sorted better.

  • Philip John Joseph on April 10, 2008, 9:14 GMT

    saptarshi:

    Are you some kind of BCCI lackey/apologist? I put in one sentence mentioning the BCCI, off-hand, in a maximum length post and you start whining about sticking to the topic. Did you even read my post? Besides that one sentence the entire post referred to the topic Kamran Abbasi penned. Grow up already saptarshi, and try to make a valid point next time, if that be possible .... Which board has ex-players you ask? That is irrelevant, unless you truly believe that it would be better to have pro-administrators running the boards and not ex-players; in which case you must be REALLY clueless. If you had a clue about what I was referring to, you would realize that I was referring to the fact that BCCI pro-administrators are corrupt nincompoops. Therefore you comparing the likes of Sharad Pawar with James Sutherland is nonsense. Cricket Australia may not be great, but their pro-administrators would school the trash that does the rounds in the BCCI like Sharad Pawar and Lalit Modi.

  • Emmly on December 23, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    Time to face the music armed with this great inrfmoation.

  • cricketbyjaws on April 11, 2008, 3:04 GMT

    The way issues are handled in the sub-continent are very unprofessional. The cricketing merits and demerits get lost in the personality issues, political one-upmanship, public pressure, endless media analysis and exposure, sensationalism, etc. etc. Such issues needs to be judged purely on cricketing merits which include performance (or under performance), discipline, interest or lack of it, team composition and stability, impact on upcoming cricketers, image of nation and seriousness of the action by that particular individual. I believe if this whole saga of Shoib Akhtar has been handled in a professional manner keeping in mind the issues discussed above, then the outcome would have been different. Shoaib Akhtar may still have qualified for reprimand, he may have reacted differently (rather than using media to defend himself) and the country would have saved the embarrasment it is going through. But will we in sub-continent ever learn? The answer is not encouraging.

  • Martin Hook on April 11, 2008, 0:48 GMT

    I am humbled by support of cricket lovers at this blog. There would be few who like to troll but we should deviate from having meaningful, healthy discussion. I think Shoaib Akhtar was a bad influence on the team and his final act was too brazen for even superlax administrators. After introducing new players to steroids and then assaulting one of them in dressing room, the only logical course of action is the expulsion. We are somehow thinking that if Shiab is wrong, Mr. Ashraf is right and reverse but that may not be necessarily true. Both should be judged on the merit. But Meritocracy would be a paradox in a feudal society. For all the faults, except for Zimbabwe all countries have democratically elected board. That is what is at the root of the problem.

  • Bingo Haley on April 10, 2008, 22:35 GMT

    NO NO NO, we who support Shoaib Akhtar are stupid NATIVE idiots

  • Imran on April 10, 2008, 22:05 GMT

    I don't understand why Naseem Ashraf was selected to lead the cricket board when he was a medical professional with no link to cricket better than what I have with it. But letting Shoaib Akhter go after another disciplinary breach is also not a wise thing to do. He has created so many problems over the course of his career that I am sure Pakistan cricket can survive better without him. How many series he has really played? Is he a regular member? A single match is enough to make him unfit. I think the ban on Shoaib is a alot late but justified. Why can't Pakistani nation support the decision taken by the authorities? Why do we have to politicize every thing?

  • F KHAN on April 10, 2008, 22:02 GMT

    Everyone agress that Shoaib is a bad fish so what is the problem. There is a guy who has the guts to get rid of him and now everyone is complaining. There is nothing higher than the prestige of the country. If you play for the country, you behave and if you do not know how to behave, you are out. This is what happens everywhere in the world. We Pakistanis have to learn to move forward and not backward.

  • cricketexpert on April 10, 2008, 17:02 GMT

    All you people who support Shoaib Akhtar are stupid naive idiots

  • irfan on April 10, 2008, 14:07 GMT

    Omar,

    Why don't you realize that whether its one year, two or five its all the same as our hero never had and never will have a fitness level to justify his selection. Honestly I fail to understand that why don't WE as a nation conclude that OURs is a mediocre team! And has been for past few years. What is the harm in that? We keep on trumpeting our past glory and therefore expect from these mediocre players too much, to what avail? Whatever performance is left in them cannot be extracted because of this pressure.

    The sooner we realize this the sooner will we be able to do something about it. Granted, though, there may have been flashes of brilliance, and there always are. But they are just that! Flashes of brilliance. Consistency in performance in the prevalent playing schedules and conditions demand a severe discipline, which is beyond the ability of current set of players.

  • Chaudary Imran Chandio on April 10, 2008, 9:40 GMT

    Salaam to all, This is sad new for sure on Shoaib who in my mind and eyes has done some great things for Pakistan cricket and also some bad, which I think everyone is prone to as human beings we are not all perfect. There are however 2 sides to every story in Nasim Ashraf's defence I must say that Shoaib has made him look stupid and as he is in a position of such importance he has to do something,I mean this saga with Shoaib has been going on for some time now, he first allegedly took drugs and was banned the whole world was made very aware of this,then for the PCB to overturn the ban and expect the cricket world to accept this is wrong,that is the first thing Mr Ashraf should be ashamed of he and his trusted team have hurt Pakistan cricket and also riuned a players reputation. Although the Pcb have given Shoaib many chances they should have dealt with these issues a lot better. This whole thing of hitting Asif should have been kept under wraps and should have been sorted better.

  • Philip John Joseph on April 10, 2008, 9:14 GMT

    saptarshi:

    Are you some kind of BCCI lackey/apologist? I put in one sentence mentioning the BCCI, off-hand, in a maximum length post and you start whining about sticking to the topic. Did you even read my post? Besides that one sentence the entire post referred to the topic Kamran Abbasi penned. Grow up already saptarshi, and try to make a valid point next time, if that be possible .... Which board has ex-players you ask? That is irrelevant, unless you truly believe that it would be better to have pro-administrators running the boards and not ex-players; in which case you must be REALLY clueless. If you had a clue about what I was referring to, you would realize that I was referring to the fact that BCCI pro-administrators are corrupt nincompoops. Therefore you comparing the likes of Sharad Pawar with James Sutherland is nonsense. Cricket Australia may not be great, but their pro-administrators would school the trash that does the rounds in the BCCI like Sharad Pawar and Lalit Modi.

  • Raza Hassan on April 10, 2008, 8:34 GMT

    I think u r wrong, What Dr.Nasim did was very right and bold decsion. Pakistan cricket dont need habitual offenders, and now Shoaib is makeing allegation of money offered to him to under perform, this all giving Pakistan cricket bad name & it should stop. Now Shoaib can work in bollywood film's in emotional characters and as stunt man, me personaly think he will be a hit on box office for sometime but he can't go for long as his injuries develop so suddenly that no one can imagine.

  • Ailly on April 10, 2008, 8:23 GMT

    In all this fiasco that is taking place after Shoaib's ban was expected. It was bound to happen since the gentleman in question have no moral values. PCB did the only right thing in past five or six years by way of bannig him for five years (life ban should have served better in serious cricketing community). Regret to see so many people are backing Shoaib rather than looking into the gound reality where he had history of feigning injuries, being involved in doping test positively, missing the matches due reasons only he can clarify and above all he hit fellow youngster with a bat ( where Asif can as well sue Shoaib for the time and money the former lost due injury accountable Shoaib ). His accusing Inzy and Moin is just a reaction a rotten cat shows when cornered. Shoaib is no better. Nevertheless, current PCB needs revolutionary changes. Sadly our politicians are jumping as well in this saga where they can get an overnight fame whether its an act of shame or not. Ailly, Dubai

  • Binoy on April 10, 2008, 8:22 GMT

    I'm surprised that there are so many saying that Dr. Ashraf should go, he did a wrong thing and many other reasons against him. One has forgotten that he has taken an important decision to save Pakistan cricket. Shoaib Akthar has done more damage to the game and Pakistan cricket in specific. Dr.Ashraf has pardoned Shoaib on quite a number of occassions and the decision of banning Shoaib . He had few supporter though, who did not voice out strongly as they too understood that they would doing a foolish by supporting Shoaib. Shoaib has serious psychological problems which requires councelling as a person like him creates a negative impact on the team. He had no support from any of his team mates, infact they supported the decision. Also this would not be Dr. Ashraf's decision alone, it would have been a well thought and discussed decision. I was happy that he was not welcome in ICL/IPL, I don't think any Indian cricket fan would like to see somebody with poor ethics.

  • Anas on April 10, 2008, 7:29 GMT

    kamran i tihnk u are exactly rite.. if they had to ban him they shud hve done it wen asif incident happend..by banning him for speaking wht he felt is bit a valid reason.also he still is ur best bowler..n is still considered a world class bowler by many atleast by the icc rankings.. hez still in top 20.. also rite now akhtar is in his prime time..

  • Adeel Sarfraz on April 10, 2008, 7:13 GMT

    I dont know whats wrong with this picture. For the first time in the history of Pak cricket, the board member has showed the guts to throw out an ill disciplined under performing so called cricket "star" and our people have started to raise all hue and cry on this. For God's sake at least support what is right. The board has made the correct decision in kicking out Shoaib and we should leave it at that. In fact Shoaib should be banned by the ICC so he is not allowed to play anywhere.

  • Farooq Munis on April 10, 2008, 5:57 GMT

    I regard this as a necessary decision but Asharaf did't manage this well. Shoaib has ruined a good atmosphere in the dressing room. I totally agree with Inzamam. His anger is fair bcz this person has made everyone deplorable. I also did't agree with the decision of Ashraf to bring him back after last year's sin. That time Ashraf was more polite than required. Now he has to face this. He must also be asked about what Akhtar claimed. Any body who declares lier, must be banned for life time.

  • Lucifer on April 10, 2008, 1:12 GMT

    Is Pakistan on its way to become the new West Indies (the current team. disregard the last match)?? IMRAN KHAN FOR PAK PRESIDENT.

  • Hassan Farooqi on April 9, 2008, 23:40 GMT

    It is the first time you really really disappointment me Kamran. I agreed and disagreed with you but never lost love and respect.

    However in case of Dr. Nasim Ashraf, I think you have some kind of personal dislike for him and this disappoint me. You have a right to be pissed off my someone and express it comically for entertainment. However dont flush down the gutter, your columns prestiege, by using it for your personal vendetta.

    I hope you will get back to your normal self and avoid professional dishonesty.

    Your old fan. Hassan Farooqi

  • Mohsin on April 9, 2008, 19:30 GMT

    Asharf has brought nothing to PCB cricket no experience, ill advices and Drama. He was a classfellow of Musharraf and a good friend thats why he is there. We should kick him out before he finishes PCB and some good player

  • Majid K on April 9, 2008, 18:13 GMT

    What is going on in Pakistan cricket is a parody of what is going on in Pakistan. You reap what you sow! Years of feudalistic behaviour, corrupt leaders and sycophants throughout society. Lack of education, fundamentalism, lawyers on the rampage. Breakdown in civil society. Ministers physically attacked. How can you expect sportsmen to show a different example from the leaders of the country. Where will it end? Even if there is a PCB clear out who would you replace them with? Are there any truly selfless leaders left in Pakistan?

  • Asad Baig on April 9, 2008, 16:41 GMT

    I feel sorry for Shoaib, because he has shot himself in the foot many times. He has many times fought with his own team mates and coaches . I have never seen such a cricketer in the past 30 years who has wasted his talent , despite being one of the most talented fast bowlers. He lacked discipline and commitment needed to succeed at this level. He has hardly played a year without some kind of injury in the past couple of years. Even Boxer Mohammed Ali and our own Squash legend Jahangir Khan were disciplined players. People are blaming Nasim Ashraf for everything, they have short memory it was Naseem Ashraf who saved Shoaib from 2 years ICC ban for Doping and his cricket from being derailed. Everybody knows he took performance enhancing products. How many chances should he be given!!!. I think no other country would have given so many chances to Shoaib Akhter. If Shoaib had been strongly disciplined earlier in his cricket career by the previous boards, he would had been saved from this and many more setbacks which not only affected him ,but also greatly tarnished the image of Pakistan. No player is greater than the game or country.

  • Shariq on April 9, 2008, 16:12 GMT

    If one studies deligently the (media)conversations with Dr Naseem Ashraf, an honest and thoughtful person will not deny that he (Mr Ashraf) is rock solid as far as cogent arguments are concerned. He is thoughtful, choses his words carefully and is generally convincing. I have little doubt in his sincerity. However, the current low-ebbed state-of-affairs with the PCB should be better viewed in tandem with the overall political disturbances across Pakistan. It is not one man's fault as most people think. Ofcourse there would be faults and weaknesses in the running of the PCB just like in any other organization. So, people should come together and offer wholehearted suggestions instead of throwing blames. The overall running of PCB could be improved. When an entire country is in crises, why will such incompetencies be exempted? In the present crises situation, he (Dr Ashraf) has done quite well albeit small shortfalls. Remember! No one is perfect!

  • RAJA PAKISTANI on April 9, 2008, 15:19 GMT

    If you live in Lahore and contain PUNJAB domicle you can be in. This is the way our cricket board thinks. where are Fawad Alam (Always impressive, never become perm player), Khurrum Manzor (played only one one day and scores 50 not out), Nouman ullah (highest scorer of Quaid -e-Azam trophy, got only one chance and scored 47 runs, Sarfraz Ahmed (never drop the catch yet), Anwar Ali (Hero fast bowler of wining under 19 and doing very well in domestic cricket). But board call unimpressive Rao, Butt, Kamran Akmal again in the team. Does domicle makes difference??? Raja Pakistani Pakistan

  • Aftab Qureshi on April 9, 2008, 14:33 GMT

    I disagree, Kamran, with your remark that it was "time to go" for Nasim Ashraf. For him, there never was a "time to come" in the first place. That he is there has nothing to do with whether he should have beeen there at all. I dont think any of his predecessors was a bigger embarrassment to Pakistan cricket. I hope to God the new government or the parliament throws him out soon!

  • Rashid Mahmood on April 9, 2008, 9:31 GMT

    I completely agree with Dr Nasim Ahsraf's stance on Shoaib Akther.Let me make things clear for the people including Mr Abbasi, that DR N Ashraf has not done anything wrong. He has followed the rules and regulations of PCB constitution.He has done things acc. to his jurisdiction. I am sorry to say that our nation is very emotional nation. People includin Mr Abbasisay things with out knowing full facts. Further more could anybody tell me what shoaib has done good for his country pakistan? I agree his is a celebrity but can you make a good celebrity out of him? You have to think twice before you say or do anything when you are on such a high profile level. I am sorry to say that he has not considered if he is hurting the emotions of pakistani like me by doing all this stupid things so far. If you dont think of nation and country before youself, then thank you very much, we dont need you even if u are a big player, we will find someone else who can do the job and recpect the country.

  • Omar on April 8, 2008, 23:30 GMT

    Most of you are missing the point. The ban was far too severe. Maybe a 1 or 2 year ban but 5 years! thats a joke. I have never heard a national cricket board ban its own players so severely. As a big Pakistan cricket fan I feel so sad to see this talented generation wasted.

  • Mahmood on April 8, 2008, 19:11 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, you are making it sound like that DNA should go ONLY because the way he messed up the latest Shoaib fiasco. DNA should have been fired long time ago (justlike Shoaib) for all the blunders he has committed so far and his inability to run PCB. For example; 1) Firing Waqar as bowling coach. 2) Taking up religion issue with Inzi in public right after he took over. 3) Leaving WI right Woolmer deatch 4) Giving captaincy to Malik 4) Younis's yes/no/yes to captaincy in public. 5) Asif/Shaoib spat. 6) Australian tour to Pak. We should have been playing Aus at a neutral venue right now. 7) Banning ICL players form domestic cricket.... and the list goes on and on and on.... I ran into this poll at a website... which was taken before the latest Shoaib saga. You can see 75% voters believe that DNA has done poor job since he took over. http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=53247

  • Zubair Shahab on April 8, 2008, 18:37 GMT

    I really do not see where you come from. Because so far Shoaib's comments are completely baseless, I applaud Nasim Ashraf in deciding to sue Shoaib. He's made a serious accusation, one that defames Pakistan let alone Nasim Ashraf. If his claims do turn out to be true, thats another story, but as of now, legal action seems to be not just the correct step, but the only step.

  • irfan on April 8, 2008, 16:22 GMT

    Cowardly and Completely selfish is the manner in which you would describe these latest allegations on these two players. All he wants, is to save his hide and for that he would sacrifice ANY body! No morals at all and that's our Shoaib Akhtar.

  • Avenger on April 8, 2008, 15:37 GMT

    @Javed Khan - These days I read Pak Spin for Kamran's populist and hackneyed opinions and your manic psychobabble. Though your posts look suspiciously like the incoherent ramblings of an asylum inmate, I am willing to grant you the benefit of doubt and say that you are simply maladjusted. Go ahead Martin Hook! - Own him!

  • Awas on April 8, 2008, 13:08 GMT

    Faraz Ishaq

    “I don't want anything else than Shoaib Akhtar” Do you have any regard for authority or ability to differentiate between right and wrong? Floundering the rules of a sporting body and accusing its chairman and ex-captains of having done illegal things, not forgetting all other indiscretions that Shoaib has indulged in, is not something to be taken lightly. Lawlessness like that is no different to lawlessness espoused by the terrorists where mainly innocent people die. Jealousy for someone earning $6,500 pm (is that all for a chairman?) is no justification for your rant.

    In fact the poster just after you, Harris Khakwani and srivathsan later talked a lot more sense. Read them again.

  • Born As Cricketer on April 8, 2008, 12:47 GMT

    Player,s r public Property.They r Hero,s not a School Student.PCB out of mind And Naseem Is A Piece of Shit.

  • faizullah khawaja on April 8, 2008, 11:02 GMT

    I agree Mr Naseem Ashraf should leave asap. The patronage of the PCB should not be with the outgoing president anyway. elections should be held asap and new elected people should take over the running of the PCB.The problem with the present board is that they lack credibility in the eyes of the people of pakistan. they know naseem ashraf's only qualification is his friendship or contact with the president.Its about time we start having proper elections and legitimate people in the PCB.

  • taz on April 8, 2008, 10:23 GMT

    Nasim Ashraf should have been flung out after we got knocked out of the World Cup in the West Indies in 2007. He has no knowledge of how to run an organisation the size of the PCB. He should have the decency to see all the problems being created in the PCB are due to him, Even Sharyar Khan did a better job than he did !

  • zeeshan on April 8, 2008, 8:58 GMT

    Nasim ashraf and Pervez Musharaf has one thing in common, seeing them as indespensible.

  • khan Kashif Jawad on April 8, 2008, 8:43 GMT

    Its really a horrible decision by the person who hasn't repute a chairman of PCB should have. I would just remind the people about a past history. If somebody knows about Movie Jinnah. The person currently serving as a chairman of PCB was collecting the funds for that project and had a big scandal of mishandling the funds. That could be false. But My question is, Why a person is on so important post with that kind of repute? So I agree with Shoaib that He is The BADSHAH SALAMAT.It doesn't mean I have any sympathy with Shoaib But wrong is wrong.

  • srivathsan on April 8, 2008, 8:00 GMT

    Kamran, Now do you agree ,after shoabs charges against inzy & moin khan that he is a greater threat to Pakistan cricket than any body else ?Un fortunately there is accountability in our system & people get away with whatever they say.The only remedy is court where more often than not ,you endup with frustration on account of inordinate delay .Is there any one who can make shoab akhtar keep quiet ?

  • Aamer Waqar on April 8, 2008, 6:45 GMT

    I don't agree with Kamran as regards to his finding that Shoaid should not have been punished. I think Shoaib is no more useful at the age of 32 years. Moreover in the last series in India we have seen his performance which was not good at all by any standards. He has been seen as match winner. How many matches he has won in the last two to three series he has palyed for Pakistan? The good thing about the whole affair is that this time (appearently) it looks like that it a "Board's" decision unlike in the past where an individual would make such decisions. The punishment may not be suitable for the "crime" he has committed but still even if he is banned for one year that means that Shoaib" career is over.

    As regards, DNA I beleive that he is the most unsuitable person for the job. structural changes shoudl be made in the PCB as suggested by Imran Khan.

  • Naeem Afzal on April 8, 2008, 6:40 GMT

    Well said kamran. These stupid authorities have deprived Pakistan cricket first of Wasim and Waqar and now of only speedster we had. They have demoralised nation's youth by humiliating opur heroes. He has ruined Pakistan cricket to a level that it needs another Imran+Miandad+Akram+Waqar for its revival. How much more we will wait, I ask my nationmen.

  • Harris Khakwani on April 8, 2008, 1:08 GMT

    My take on all this is as follows: 1.) No player is above the game. 2.) Shoiab caused more pain than joy. 3.) Shoaib even after being told time after time kept breaking the rules. 4.) Shoaib was a joker in pak cricket. Using steriods, beating people up with criket bats, and cauisng problems in the dressing room. 5.) let me tell u, Shoaib actually symbolizes Pakistan. We are impressed by crap ( previous rulers, motorways etc..), but we dont look to the future, ur future is discipline, sad thing for pakistan is that its best future was its past when it was colonized by england. I am shocked to see that you actually are upset at someone taking a stand against this crap we witness everyday. This was the best move pak criket could have ever made. Shoaib is a VIRUS.. The only cure you have for him is to quarantine him.

  • Faraz Ishaq on April 8, 2008, 0:52 GMT

    I don't want anything else then Shoaib Akhtar on the field. Who is Nasim Ashraf...I don't give a damn about it and what he thinks. I am sure I am little ignorant when it comes to Pakistan Cricket but I will say whatever shoaib did, he should be pardoned and brought back on the field. And as people are mentioning there is no FANS rooting for Nasim Ashraf then there should be no Nasim Ashraf earning 6500$ a month from my taxes. Kick his sutpid SSA outa there. Or give me my taxed back. I love musharraf but if one day i will hate him, will hate him just appointing Nasim Ashraf as PCB's president. Shoaibd Akhtar should brought back on the field RIGHTAWAY otherwise I am not with Pakistan Cricket now on. Fire Lawson, I question his integrity as a fan. Hire Miandad or Whatmore if he is still interested. Bring back Tauqeer Zia. and bring some good Ex CRICKETERS in the board....

  • Omar Minhas on April 7, 2008, 18:29 GMT

    "Nasim Ashraf should really have expected a backlash from the cricketer himself, his fans, and most neutral observers"

    His FANS!! huh talk on your own behalf, there aint no Fans of Naseem Ashraf. I think he is the worse phase Pakistan Cricket has had to bear ever. Despite the on going Shoiab Akhtar dispute which rightly serves Shoaib, He has been incompitent and very unprofessional towards his approach to various matters which left the Pakistani Cricket (already in disarray) in a sinking situation. Persisting with the likes of SALMAN BUTT, Kamran Akmal and a few others with their repeated failures only brings Doubts in one's mind regarding his ability to run the Board. True he must leave and i hope this time they atleast borrow some common sense and let a person lead whose already been a part of cricket, Not some selfish xyz including all kinds of doctors or ex Army Generals and ruin the remaining hopes of possible better cricket in the near or FAR future.

  • inaam on April 7, 2008, 18:23 GMT

    Bad decision by a bad management. how can one be trued for an offence and found guilty of all previous offences and the present one and sentenced for all of them in one go. Its certainly not justice. Fully agree with mr Abbasi on mr ashraf that he needs to go - he is not worth it - we have interesting and not so interesting characters heading the board and they have all moved with the winds of change - mr ashraf came with dictator ship and he needs to go with democracy in place - he can go back to usa from where he came Lastly we need to change the system of our board - why can one not comment on the baord - is the board that holy? cricketers should be allowed to speak out.

  • Ash Zed - Saudi Arabia on April 7, 2008, 17:34 GMT

    This refers to various posts from Martin Hook.

    He is cent percent right. I don’t see his comments are offended in any manner. He is to the point, nice and polite and he is also correct when he says people do over react in this situation.

    To tell you the truth, Pakistan is sliding down in every field whether it is democracy, education, general law & order, international image and reputation, food supply, health or sports. Hockey and Squash are already forgotten names and now its cricket. Pakistan has only made progress in corruption, fanaticism and wrong religious beliefs. To cut the whole story short, Cricket has no future in Pakistan and sometime I wonder if Pakistan has any future at all??

    Martin, I apologize on the behalf of those who accused you of being irrational in your blog.

  • irfan on April 7, 2008, 16:04 GMT

    All of you who advocate against Shoaib's ban by calling him the best please realize that this category contains the names like Fazal, Imran, Wasim, Waqar. I beg of you please not to taint this category by including this idiot's name in it. Each of these names above had at one time or another gone throw a career threatening injury and came back with sheer discipline and grit to silence their critics.

    Those who throw his averages in the face of his critics please tell me what good are the averages when he can not perform, whatever chances he gets he wastes them, when was the last time he was fully fit to play a test, when was the last time he played and did not involve himself into a controversy. This has gone far enough and long enough, stop this nonsense and move on with the game. He should have been axed a long time ago.

  • NM on April 7, 2008, 15:30 GMT

    I think that Shoaib's ban was justified even though it should have been a life ban. This man has had more controversies than wickets recently and deserves his ban. That said Ashraf is a muppet and also should go.

  • Muhammad Ali Sajjad on April 7, 2008, 14:29 GMT

    Any fool who would want offer shoaib money to underperform needs to have his head examined!!!! How can anyone even think of offering in money to lose a match???? It is quite simple; why offer him money to lose when he will remain unfit half the time and even when he plays he is off the field half the time. Yes he is a match winner but only once in a (2 or sometimes 3) blue moon(s)! lol He does not become an underperformer after taking money !! he's born as one! lol

  • George on April 7, 2008, 13:33 GMT

    As an Indian, I am pained to see the state of Pakistan cricket today. Pakistan was always ahead of us from the time I watched Zaheer Abbas belt 100s and 200s against us in my childhood and when Imran Khan was captain,Javeds mighty knocks and Wasim and Waqars bowling exploits. It saddens me when I see the Pakistan team today. India is far better but when the big 5 of Sachin, Rahul, Saurav, Laxman and Kumble retire then we may face such problems. I dont have any advise for Pakistan except get former cricketers like Imran, Javed, Sohail and others into the PCB. I wish Pakistan all the best!!

  • venkat reddy on April 7, 2008, 12:17 GMT

    What is with pakistani cricket at the moment?As a neutral who has loved watching the pakistani cricketers(When its not against India!) its sad that the game has been robbed by petty administrators and idiot cricketers.The cricket world is a small family and it desperately needs a strong pakistan side.But at the moment all it has is a joke of an administration that is bowing down to the Bcci and banning everyone they feel is a threat.Nasim Ashraf should go.So should Shoaib Akthar.

  • Imran on April 7, 2008, 11:36 GMT

    I think rather making this laughable for the whole world (5 year BAN and then Release BAN) as happend previously the Chaiman should take this matter seriously but tactfully rather making this more complex due to his personal grudges with Shoaib. dont make the Cricket board a playing table be mature and proffessional.

  • Malik on April 7, 2008, 11:35 GMT

    Well who cares that he is there or not, the point is that if he there in the team he will play one match n will hve injuries for the rest of the series. So he has ban for 5 years or one year or life time, it doesnt make any difference on pakistan cricket, but yes now we knew one thing that he is not in the squad, so we will not any any hopes that Big Gun is there, so for me this decision is 100% correct but the person who has taken is that person is not good for pak cricket.

  • Awas on April 7, 2008, 9:01 GMT

    Shoaib's comments anger Inzamam and Moin

    This is the latest headline on Cricinfo where he claims that both Inzi and Moin offered him money to under perform which he refused. LOL at this nonsense allegation. Why did Shoaib not say that at the time when it happened, if it was true?

    Both ex-captains are considering suing him and rightly so. First accusing the chairman and now this. Is there an end to this Tamasha from this joker? Another Sarfraz Nawaz in the making no doubt once he is out of cricket.

    A little sympathy that I had for Shoaib for somewhat harsher punishment has completely disappeared now. He himself is now making PCB’s actions look justified.

  • Faisal Jafri on April 7, 2008, 8:58 GMT

    Nasim Ashraf must go if cricket in Pakistan is to be saved. However I think a lot of people when giving their opinions on this seem to feel that they must side with either Nasim or Shoaib. This is not about individuals its about institutions. Shoaib deserved to be punished for his attitude but not banned from playing. Every team even in corporate environments have brilliant people who are temperamental and need to be 'managed'. Nasim Asharaf must go not because he banned Shoaib but because of the irreperable damage he has caused to cricket in Pakistan and continues to do so. Look at the Mushtaq Ahmed, Saqlain Mushtaq, Abdul Razzak, Hasan Reza and all the players whose careers he has played around with. They are now serving with distinction their counties and teams in IPL. Where are all the fast bowlers? Since Saqlain and Mushi have we produced any spinners of world class standing? Kaneria has also been warned. We nearly lost Muhammad Yousuf to ICL. That is why the Dr. must go.

  • Bhavani Shankar on April 7, 2008, 6:41 GMT

    What the hell is going on... I only watch pakistan cricket to see shoaib and Abdul Razzak. What u did to them... Hey! All of you hear, Cricket is just a sport and not a war. Enjoy it whether it is win or defeat. To my knowledge Shoaib Akhtar Provided the best entertainment from Pakistan cricket after wasim bhai. U agree or not, I love him as a cricketer. May be he is a bad boy, arrogant, selish. I don't care, bring him back idiots, otherwise I don't watch pakistan cricket again. Come on shoaib, come back, Stop talking and play cricket.....

  • Omer Admani on April 7, 2008, 6:25 GMT

    "Hair has been a top umpire as far as his decisions are concerned" Doctor Ashraf

    This really vindicates Hair as far as I am concerned. Pakistan surely didn't raise protest because of Hair's man-management skills.

    What's wrong with this doctor, does he have an ayota of brain?

  • Martin Hook on April 7, 2008, 3:16 GMT

    I am sorry if my observations have offended my friends at this blog. I must say to those who mailgn me that I have best of cricket at my heart. I write because I like pakistani brand of cricket or should I say I used to like, but it seems some people would rather not listen the truth. It is my honest opinion that you guys need to tone down the debate little bit. Soiab Akhtar is the guy who assulted a team matewith cricket bat. Every little controversy regarding cricket is not the national emergency (no pun intended). May be thats why your society can not have democracy because the national character seems to be reactionary and panicky.

  • Salman Khan on April 7, 2008, 0:28 GMT

    I think Shoaib has been mishandled its a case for bad man-management. Shoaib is mmatch-winning bowler although has to be said hasn't piad justice to his talent and has himself to blame. But why give the man 5 years ban just to see him off. He should have given upto 3 years pending his fitness and form to play for Pakistan.

  • Iqbal on April 6, 2008, 18:59 GMT

    DNA must be sacked at once.This guy is such a coward.I am sure what Shoaib said about him taking money from IPL players. Being a Pakistani,I want DNA to be sacked and Shoaib brought back.Bowlers like him are born in centuries and Shoaib is the fastest bowler in hisory.DNA the will soon be the fastest to be embarassed.

  • halwa on April 6, 2008, 18:04 GMT

    wat can u expect from an incompetent sifarishi person. 1st he created problems for waqar younis then abdul razzak left cus of him.i think pakistan shud hire foreign administrators instead of foreign coaches. shoaib was 100 % right wen he criticised the dead wickets. how many ppl lov watching cricket on dead wickets?? i wud lov to know wat mr nasim ashraf accomplish for pakistan cricket in the last few of years. oh yea his biggest achievement was that pakistan lost to ireland. i belive if u give this kinda chairman to australia or any team in the world he will destroy the team within a year!!!! nasim ashraf shud b sacked rite away and sued for destroying our cricket team.

  • Umar Farooq on April 6, 2008, 14:17 GMT

    Time to justified the situation, i believe Akhtar's reputation in the cricketing world is naked now after his allegation made for Nasim Ashraf; Akhtar showed his frustration and proved he has nothing to do in cricket now, although what he had done for Pakistan in past other then creating controversies.

    Anyhow, dear writer; Akhtar admitted that if he again made any controversy during his probation period then he would be banned for whole life, if he is banned for five year Akhtar should be thanked to PCB.

  • Mash Khan on April 6, 2008, 12:36 GMT

    Dear Kamran:

    You are often overreaching, but this time around you are way over the top, calling for Nasim Ashraf's ouster

    In my view the Chairman deserves to be appluaded for finally having the spine to remove such a festering, rogue and diabolical player from the team -- a player who has damged the image of Pakistan cricket over the years and whose presence in the change room is so divisive, disruptive and damaging

    In this stance, I say good riddance

  • Iqbalsh on April 6, 2008, 11:41 GMT

    Kamran you're either being over sensationalist and emotional or are being manipulated by your paymasters to come up with such garbage. Shoaib Akhtars career is best summed up as hype, hyper extension and hypocondriac. He had some glittering performances but never took his career seriously. PCB put him on a suspended life ban if he re offended within the next two years, he did just that. This current PCB administration in fact have acted every time Shoaib has erred with the it being made clear to him that the repercussions would be more serious the next time. Mr Akhtar has chosen to ignore them, perhaps thinking he is bigger than Pakistani cricket. DNA has overall done a good job under extremely trying circumstances. We need to keep the present set up in place for the next 3-4 years to see the garden flourish. However, the many badmash out their who have a vested interest in keeping Pakistani cricket from lurching from one controversy to the next will see this as the moment to stike.

  • Javaid Abbasi on April 6, 2008, 9:55 GMT

    Both Nasim Ashraf and Shoaib Akhter are bad influences on the Pakistan Cricket and Pakistan players - they both need to go. I wonder if Nasim's appointment had anything to do with his connections, it had nothing to do with merits, thats for sure! Since he took over, Pakistan Cricket has seen its worst days - losing to Ireland, Woolmer dying in suspicious circumstances, foreign teams refusing to tour Pakistan. Nasim, instead of trying to restore Pakistan's image in world cricket, so teams like Australia can tour Pakistan again, is wasting his energy on trivial issues like Shoaib and worse still - and embarrisingly - trying to sue Shoaib for millions of dollars. Nasim Ashraf is a poor administrator and has no business being the chief of an important position such as Pakistan Cricket Board Chief - for that position we need a person who is intelligent, tactful, selfless, fatherly and one who enjoys the respect of players. As for Shoaib, he has wasted a great opportunity to serve Pakistan.

  • Adnan Ahmad Khan on April 6, 2008, 8:10 GMT

    Mr Kamran Abbasi is getting too emotional for Shoaib Akhtar! I am not a supporter of Nasim Ashraf. But if one recalls Shoaib Akhatar was warned when he was banned for hitting asif that any indiscipline and you are banned for life..in the charge sheet there are charges against shoaib akhtar that he was indisciplined on the indian tour...so he was warned before...he should have been careful...and i agree if he is fit for the COMPLETE MATCH he is a match winner...but how often does that happen...we need to make new stars...so we should stop crying over Shoaib Akhtar's ban..his actions justify the ban.

  • Reiterate on April 6, 2008, 4:22 GMT

    Please note that Shoaib has not been banned just because he criticised the board. It's because he was already on probation when he criticised the board. He should've behaved himself while on probation.

    Lets not make this a bigger issue than it is. This is just another employer - employee relationship gone sour. The employer is within his rights to fire an employee for underperformance and an employee has every right to seek alternative employment if he's not happy.

  • omail ashraf on April 6, 2008, 4:18 GMT

    Well folks its not just the mishandling of shoiab's case its a chronology of alot of events that demands ouster of dr naseem and his administration or lack of it. The other day i was listening to geo and they said pcb has 705 employees , i mean what the heck all these ppl do ..and moreover they were even giving some account of fraud and mishandling of pcb funds and its properties, so its not just cricket its more than one front that dunger doctor naseem has failed, i live in dubai and here ppl literally make fun of pakistani cricket while our neighbours are prospering 10th folds. Pakistan being famous for fast bowling are finding themselves with nuthin , asif down with elbow injury, sami gone to icl, gul persistent back pain, kaneria board demoted him from contracts and his confidence is rock bottom, razzak gone in wilderness, i mean common this is darkest era of pakistan cricket what is the board planning and thinking, plz get ppl like aamir sohail imran or ramiz raja and save pak

  • saptarshi on April 6, 2008, 3:05 GMT

    Jan yusuf aka philip john joseph why do u always have to drag BCCI into everything. Tell me one cricket board whose administrators are ex-players. James Sutherland?, Malcolm Speed?, Graham Hablish?, Justin Vaughn?, Gerlad Majola? Ray Mali? how many more mate. Just stick to the topic.

  • Ali on April 6, 2008, 1:10 GMT

    I dont agree with Mr Kamran. I think Shoaib needs to be disciplined, though current charge and its punishment seem to harsh, his verbal bashing and accusation towards Chairman PCB are the most ridiculous as possible. I totally agree with Chairmans responce of sueing Shoaib of trying to defame the person and character. Secondly Shoaibs track record for last many years have always been dodged with with disciplinary breaches. His case appeal can review his punishment and may even release him with nothing, but his verbal bashing need to be checked as no honorable man can get accusations like this.

  • Ash Zed - Saudi Arabia on April 6, 2008, 1:02 GMT

    Rx

    25 lashes three times daily half an hour before meal... this is what Dr. Ashraf needs. Period.

    Although I am not a fan of Shoaib as I don’t think Shoaib currently justifies a place in playing eleven based on his form and fitness but a fit shoaib is certainly an asset for Pakistan team. However, the way Dr. Ashraf is handling this case clearly shows something on personal basis.

    In these days of IPL/ICL where players of this so called game of gentlemen are being auctioned, instant cricket (other name of instant cricket is Twenty20) is being given more focus, then I think anything can happen such as jokers like Ashraf get the top PCB position.

    Sarfraz Nawaz has been one of the most difficult players to manage in Pakistan Cricket. The way the then BCCP heads (remember the great Noor Khan) and other captains like Mushtaq and Imran managed him is a clear evidence of lack of management capabilities as far as recent heads of PCB and captains are concerned.

  • Mohammad Nawaz on April 6, 2008, 0:56 GMT

    I strongly believe that Dr. Naseen Ashraf is an incapable head of PCB and he should not have been offered this position. He is another Shaukat Aziz ex prime mininister of Pakistan who messed the economy of the country and blessed other by cheating Pakistan's resources. He knew his job but he was not an honest and sincere to his country and dont forget people he was from USA and so as Naseem Ashraf. These type of personalities are sent to Pakistan and other countries to mess up their systems. Dr. Naseem Ashraf is running PCB and it makes me feel that a docotor is building a bridge or presenting a budget for a country. He might have played cricket in his childhood in the form of Guli Danda but in reality Guli Danda is totally different and any stupid person can play it easily. But Criket needs brain and that brain can be found in Majid Khan, Asif Iqbal, Zaheer Abbas, Imran Khan, Javed Miandad and other player of their caliber. I feel bad that PCB is headed by an ignorant person.

  • najib zaman on April 5, 2008, 21:33 GMT

    wasim akram, waqar younis, saeed anwar, inzamamul haq, moin khan, rashid latif, abdul razzaq, imran farhat, taufeeq umar, my fav batsman imran nazir, and now shoaib akhtar...when will nasim stop destroyin our country's pride? enuf with droppin best players...mushtaq ahmad gone, saqlain and azhar mahmood left...i just cannot even believe nasim just put entire blame to top players other than admitting he himself hav a problem. india lost the world cup, but still got full support by their board, did any of their players completely leave the team? did any player got mistreated? nope...they came back and came back good...indian board never gav up hope on their players so why is stupid nasim givin up... he literally hav a problem and we need to get rid of him and make sure this stupidity never happens again...i hope inshalla he gets sacked and great players make their comeback...akhtar on the other hand, been a troublemaker 4ever, maybe its a good thing...

  • Asif Sarfraz on April 5, 2008, 20:45 GMT

    The structure of Pakistan Cricket has to change now!

    Over the last few years we have been looking like a bunch of jokers!

    Younger people should be bought in, who have new ideas, understand the game, and most importantly look at how there image is being portrayed around the world, by the means of their actions.

    Nasim Ashraf is suing Shoaib Akhtar for money that people can only dream of having in Pakistan!

    It seems like the organisation is just thinking of their pockets! And forgetting about the cricket lovers around the world!

    Shame on you! Children!

  • Imran on April 5, 2008, 19:21 GMT

    I will tell you what is wrong with this board. After 2003 Pakistan cricket was in a similar situation as it was in last year. With a few big names gone. However, 2003 we had a competent board. We brought in honest people such as Aamir Sohail. Aamir Sohail gave us a sense of direction. Sharyar Khan had a sense of direction as well. It was the rebuilding process. It is not as if Pakistan currently have the best team in the world. Our direction must be heading towards improvement and unearthing new talent.

    First big mistake was not by making malik captain, It was giving him too much power. Malik thinks he is an allrounder by scoring 50's and taking wickets against zimbabwe. Malik's insecurities are harming the team however. He is taking out allrounders, first Razzaq now Afridi next it will be Fawad. He is keen on taking out Yousuf and Afridi because they also threaten him as possible candidates.

    Pakistan is run by dictators from top to bottom; Musharaff, Dr. Ashraf, and Shoaib Malik!

  • Salman on April 5, 2008, 18:37 GMT

    I think Shoaib Akhtar had to leave for good one day or another. He used to be one of the most exciting players in world cricket, and one of my favorite players too. But lately, for over a year or two the team has been performing better without him. The team almost won the 20/20 world cup without him, and as soon as he returned, India embarrasses them big time. Whenever he is selected , he is just taking up 1 space in the squad, which Pakistan can use to develop another good fast bowler.

    I believe Pakistan is the one country that has the most cricketing talent, but that talent is not utilized and further developed, which is the responsibility of the chairman. Just like everything else in Pakistan, if Pakistan is to become one of the best cricketing sides in the world things will have to change from the grassroots. Pakistan needs to develop pitches in their domestic games to reflect international conditions, so their bowlers and batsmen learn to play in these more demanding conditions.

  • NAS on April 5, 2008, 17:47 GMT

    why dont they put someone like IMRAN KHAN to be the chairman of the board who knows how to play and how to deal?? DNA is a damn doctor and PCB is not a hospital.. go back to your profession mate.. time to bring cricketers to PCB not doctors and nurses..

  • Rauf on April 5, 2008, 16:09 GMT

    To sammy at April 4, 2008 4:39 PM

    "Pakistani cricket is a joke and with Australia and SA doing the right thing in avoiding Pakistan like the plague, all you Pak cricket fans will be left with will be watching gripping contests against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. It's no coincidence that Pakistan is at the bottom rung with these losers in test cricket!!"

    Although it may be your desire that Pakistan cricket never recovers from these fiascos but cricket is much bigger then few distractions and desires of a lonely person.

    Unlike WI where cricket is dying a slow death, cricket will be supported in Pak with the same passion as before. Pak will continue to produce world class cricketers as before. We just need to sort out this PCB mess by firing the incompetent morons. Pakistan will be back and for Aus/SA to claim the top spot, they must beat every test country home and away. Like it or not, road to #1 spot also runs thru Pak or it will be same as what Aussies think of Murali.

  • Shahid Mahmood on April 5, 2008, 15:56 GMT

    In a state where a murdrer gets 10 years punishment and is out after 6½, every other punishment should be proportionate. Shoaib is a fool and a fony and should be punished but in the proportionaty it amount to a economic punishment or a ban for one year. nothing more nothing less

  • Haroon on April 5, 2008, 15:20 GMT

    Obviously Nasim Ashraf is gonna go (he always was when the government changed)...his time in office hasn't been great for Pakistan cricket which will only hasten his departure...

    OK...so who do you suggest would make a good replacement? and what do you think the replacement should do to fix matters?

    In fact, why don't you outline to your readers how exactly a 'competent' chairman would have handled matters over the last few years...

    Otherwise I think you should change the title of your blog from 'Pak Spin' to 'Pak Rant'...

  • Rahul Saxena on April 5, 2008, 15:00 GMT

    Gosh. What self opinionated blog. Who really besides Pakistani fans really cares if Shoaib Akthar plays or not OR for that matter whether if Pakistan is playing or not becasue it hardly makes a difference to quality of world cricket, just akin to Bangladesh/Zimbabwe being there on the tour agenda or NOT. Pakistan is today as low as Bang /Zimbabwe.

  • Awas on April 5, 2008, 14:51 GMT

    It was good to read some sensible comments from Manish Batsa, India amer Husain srivathsan

    At the end of the day do we really need a 32 years old spoilt brat who has been involved in controversies for a very long time? Shoaib’s allegation that the ban was punishment in return for refusing to give the chairman a cut from his salary from IPL is for me a valid enough reason for a legal action. So I don’t understand all this “overreaction” here and all that fuss?

  • sadia on April 5, 2008, 12:43 GMT

    Banning shoaib a right decision,Hope IPL and ICL ban him as well,No place for any indisciplined person in cricket,its a gentleman game. But at the same time PCB need to be reoranised too. Shoaib please for God sake GO GO, retire and let Pakistan team play with dignity, Your records are nils but you are always in media with wrong reasons, never in because you had done anything good for pakistan cricket. Please do favour to nation GO GO.

  • Javaid Ahmad on April 5, 2008, 12:35 GMT

    I personally think, it is a right decision, should have been taken long time ago.Shoaib is a burden on pakistan cricket, Discipline comes first then anything else. Its a right decision by PCB but wrong timming. Totally agree, PCB need to be reorganised and need professional and ex cricketers with good reputation,education and knowledge to take over. But definetely however great shoaib is as cricketer, which is again with a big question mark, doesnt deserve his place any more in the team.This is the time he should himself take retirement with dignity and some pride whatever left in him. For the sake of pakistan cricket,its bad time but shoaib is a really controverstial player, pain to manage and bad mouth should have been dealt strongly long long time ago. I know in Pakistan, cricket is second to religion but people in pakistan are not aware of all his deeds, they are just getting emotional, again politicians has no role in it to play, they should not interfere in it. Justice need doin

  • Fahad ur Rehman on April 5, 2008, 10:37 GMT

    Shaoib Akhtar is never seen committed or matured. He should have been dealt like this long before. Pakistan doesn't need him. When ever he tours with the team, he gets sick or gets involved in some type of stupid scandal and the team combination is disturbed.

  • Adnan Mohsin Zaman on April 5, 2008, 10:32 GMT

    I think this ban should come earlier,Shoaib deserve this treatment,he has been more an embarrassment than pride for Pakistan cricket,he is one of those self centered person who has no respects for other and wants to live a life in which he gets all attention. I would be more happy if this ban comes earlier but not from Nasim Ashraf bcoz DNA is been one of the worst thing that have happened in last two years for Pakistan as a nation and also for Pakistan cricket team.

    Please somebody bring some sincere leaders,who can turn around our team and our nation.

  • Mabsoos Ahmad on April 5, 2008, 10:17 GMT

    Well, this is our culture really I would say where we do not have regard to each other. As a Head of an organization these pity things should not have been done by Mr. Doctor. He is doing operation in the stomach and keeping the scissor there. Obviously there will be pain. We are a cricket crazy nation and even who knows ABC of cricket could understand the plight as of now in the Pakistan cricket. It is not heading in the right direction and it is time to disolve this silly board who is making mockery. It is always good when board is run by cricket not by the enemy of cricket. Neither Shoaib nor Dr is right but for the sake of cricket they should mitigate their rigid attitude. What message you are transmitting to the younger generation. There was a time when we were calling cricket is a gentleman's game but it is becoming too much of joke everywhere in the world and I have my doubt that all over the world cricket is not going in the right direction and people will not take interest...

  • Tamim on April 5, 2008, 10:11 GMT

    Kamran - is there any Pakistan cricket left to get worked up about? I suggest we all take up squash & hockey again - especially squash.

  • Faisal on April 5, 2008, 6:07 GMT

    Doctor Ashraf has done a few good things but he has also made a lot of blunders. I agree that it is time for him to leave GRACEFULLy

  • Awais on April 5, 2008, 5:48 GMT

    the only qualification of Nasim Ashraf is that he is a friend of Musharraf.. Now as musharraf has lost all his legitimacy there is no place for Nasim Ashraf also.. There should be a new chairman for PCB appointed not on personal like or dislike but merit

  • Nas on April 5, 2008, 2:35 GMT

    How hard is it to see that Shoaib was not contracted by PCB when he passed his comments/critique?.He was just simply exercising his democratic right of free speech that had been reigned in by dictators like Mush-A(sh)raf. We should let the common sense prevail as Shoaib has not breached the law(at least this time). The case just needs to be isolated from shoaib's earlier fallacies and requires a fair trial.Shoaib is a celebrity,and a crowd puller just like Micheal Jordan or Mike Tyson, and his off the field antics is his personal life.Let him enjoy as we all do.

    Sammy, why don't u stay in your plague hole and watch the gripping contests in which Australia & SA were beaten by Bangladesh. But,I guess only a dictated fool like you will fail to see that Mr. Abbasi is merely encouraging an intellectual argument.

  • Negative Zero on April 5, 2008, 2:21 GMT

    Sammy.... You are messed up dude.... Dont you see how SA is bonning you on your own soil..

  • Imran on April 5, 2008, 2:05 GMT

    Maybe he can settle in America and become head of Major League Baseball.

    Thsi man is a disgrace and I wonder why pakistan's elected administration does not simply call him in, turn him around, and show him the door.

  • Darthvader on April 4, 2008, 23:02 GMT

    How Nasim Ashraf is responsible for Shoaib's demise, which most commentators seem to be suggesting , is beyond me .Shoaib , and him alone, is responsible for bringing all of this upon himself. if anything , he should have been thrown out of the pakistani team a long time ago.he was always in the news for wrong reasons , always trying to bend the rules , was a bad influnce on the team and broke down physically every other game if not in the same game , twice .everyone seems to forget that he was on probation , facing a life ban the next time he breached the terms of his probation.i dont care how fast one can bowl , you cant be allowed to disgrace your country , again and again . and lastly , how do you blame Nasim for taking Shoaib to court when he accused him of extortion . some people dont know what to do with good fortune and fame when it comes there way ...shoaib is one of those low-life individuals.

  • S. H. Ch. on April 4, 2008, 22:34 GMT

    Hi,

    I think that what PCB and if you insist, Nasim Ashraf has done is absolutely right. Shoaib deserved it and he got it. His absolutely Stupid utterances in the aftermath of the ban, in the media, even further proves the correctness of the ban! I stand by the Ashraf and Co.

    S. H. Ch Islamabad.

  • Talha on April 4, 2008, 20:51 GMT

    No point in bannin him now.. its ridiculous.. all these years u suffered him and now when his career looks no more than 2-3 years u ban him for 5 years.. i mean wth.. these are the best years for shoaib.. now he is more experienced and more dedicated (compared to earlier part of his career life) so let him finish wid his career.. who knows he mite really perform well ..

    DNA .. as far as i think made a stupid decision.. and at a stupid time.. and based it on a stupid incident.. i mean if he were to be banned.. he should have been banned long ago.. not now.. now pcb should suffer and not make a joke of our system in front of whole world..

  • ram on April 4, 2008, 20:49 GMT

    let kamran and his side kick akthar run PCB

  • Osman Ali Khairi on April 4, 2008, 20:45 GMT

    Kamran, I'm sorry for digressing but I can't believe you always publish Sachin fan's comments on Pakspin even though, I have yet to come across a message from this bloke that does not rest on absolute rubbish, the kind only meant to create controversy and resentment.

  • Zaar on April 4, 2008, 20:15 GMT

    I think Pakistan has to outsource PCB.

  • safwan on April 4, 2008, 20:04 GMT

    this is just one turmoil after another.....pakistani cricket seems to be done and dusted...UNFORTUNATELY!

  • Manish Batsa, India on April 4, 2008, 19:31 GMT

    I think my Pakistani friends are over reacting here. he had been warned several times so punishment had to be severe. Everyone lashing out against Ashraf probably because feeling of losing a bowler of Shoaib's caliber is sinking. But keeping things in perspective, I don't think it might have been an individual decision of Nadeem. There was a committee right?? why so much anger against Ashraf at this point of time then? To sue was the only option if u see Shoaib's outrageous allegations! how does that defame Pakistan? One I often notice with Pakistan(and India as well) is that people don't react the same way when a shameful decision is in our favor. But when it comes to adverse decisions, even when based on logic and facts, people just over over over react!

  • Momin on April 4, 2008, 18:05 GMT

    I personally feel that Shoaib's career had to end in a way which would spark highlights. As somebody wrote Shoaib shouldve been banned when he hit Mohammad Asif with a bat, that shouldve been it for him. Perhaps, Dr. Ashraf lacked courage to take that decision. Even if the decision that has been taken is right, certainly the time isnt. Pakistan cricket is at a low ebb. Probably lower than ever. It is a coincidence that this time has come with Nasim Ashraf at the helm. It is time that we patronize cricket in a professional manner, and not have personal friends of the patron leading one of the most important organizations of the country. If he has any shame, Nasim Ashraf should quit, but perhaps he doesnt.

    Finally, if Shoaib Akhtar has been banned for criticizing the board, the board should look into itself, does it fear criticism? And talking of indiscipline, how about disciplining a board chairman who wants his photos taken & play cricket with the team wearing shorts! Disgraceful!

  • amer husain on April 4, 2008, 17:56 GMT

    Mr Martin Hook. Here is an observation, albeit from some one who is genetically predisposed to over react. From the few of your posts that I have read you seem to repeating the same old point that we Pakistanis overreact and rant and you say this with some venom I must add. I think if you look at what you are writing you will find that your posts well and truly fall slap bang into that same category. Now where does that leave you?

  • amer husain on April 4, 2008, 17:44 GMT

    A very odd but a very Pakistani situation unfortunately. An idiot locking horns with another idiot. I wonder where all the sensible people have gone ??

  • sabih ur rehman on April 4, 2008, 17:17 GMT

    dr ashraf should be kicked out of the board.

  • Muhammad Hasan on April 4, 2008, 17:16 GMT

    Kamran, I completely agree with your article on this one. Nasim Ashraf, not Shoaib Akhtar, has been the root cause of most problems for Pakistani Cricket in the last year or two. How? Akhtar's doping scandal was one of the largest defamation accusations I have ever laid my eyes across. The level of Akhtar's nandrolone was well under the legal limit. The current fiasco involving Shoaib is the most biased and totalitarian decision I have ever come across recently and should force an ENTIRE revision of PCB officials. By trying to please and suck up to the ICC, the PCB has become the most disillusioned, dictatorial, organization Pakistan has ever produced and should be completely scrapped and re-created. Shoaib, just like every other player, had the right to point out his opinions (on domestic tracks, etc.) on which the PCB should have complied. As other boards race to support their players (Harbajan-BCCI, Warne ACB, etc..), the PCB does the opposite. The PCB isthe problem here, not Shoaib

  • Sam on April 4, 2008, 16:54 GMT

    Shoaib should renounce his citizenship and move to India.

  • Sammy on April 4, 2008, 16:41 GMT

    Kamran has spoken like a true dictator!! Get rid of someone that he does not like and replace with a puppet that will sing his tunes! Oh wait, that is the way the country and for that matter PCB has been run for the last 50 years!!

  • sammy on April 4, 2008, 16:39 GMT

    Javed,

    Stick to the topic!! No need to pass smarty pants about others commenting about your joker Abassi's blog. Pakistani cricket is a joke and with Australia and SA doing the right thing in avoiding Pakistan like the plague, all you Pak cricket fans will be left with will be watching gripping contests against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. It's no coincidence that Pakistan is at the bottom rung with these losers in test cricket!!

  • Khurram Iqbal, United Kingdom on April 4, 2008, 16:33 GMT

    I think PCB has enough time to play around with these hearings and bannings as there are no matches to play for Pakistan Team.

    As far as the 5 year ban is concerned, most of it has been said by everyone and I second on the argument made by Shoab himself that the ones who were involved in match-fixing (which is ofcourse a far more serious crime than critisizing PCB) got away manier times. Therefore, Shoaib's punishment isn't really inline with the offense from him.

    May it be Dr. Ashraf or any of his predecessors, they all have been in some way or the other biased and have made various decisions which were rather seemed to be based on politics and not facts (yes I totally disagree with what PCB claims). And this decision which does not seem quite justified followed by a charge of 3million dollars, reveals continuation of a sad story about politically biased institutions in Pakistan.

    I hate to admit, but yes Shoaib must go and we neither want Dr. Ashraf as well!

  • Waqas on April 4, 2008, 15:56 GMT

    Dr. Naseem is a loser he should have punished shoaib when he hit Asif but at that time they charged 34 Lakhs from Shoaib....and i think this money has gone to Naseem and his friend's pocket.Now maybe shoaib denied to pay any fine just because ,banned for 5 years.I am not sure if Naseem is pakistani national he is american.

  • Taha on April 4, 2008, 15:53 GMT

    Okay... Who really cares about this topic anymore??? Instead of dwelling in our past success, why not worry about who our future might be? Who will replace Shoaib Akthar?? When will Mohammed Asif & Umar Gul be fit to play?? Who will take the place of a third seamer???

  • Sohaib on April 4, 2008, 15:53 GMT

    How can one of our best palyers be banned? We are already struggling for players, banning shoaib doesn't help. He has helped Pakistan on a number of occasions. The ban is a big blow as we are running out of options, we need shoaib's pace to stand a chance against the top sides. He is an asset and this is not the time to discipline him he should have been discplined a long time ago. The PCB can't get anything right. We need our star players, Shoaib Akhtar is an international star and is an imposing cricketer who is entertaing whilst a frightening prospect for the opposition. We need strong players such as him.

  • omar hussain on April 4, 2008, 15:41 GMT

    I haven't come to know much about Nasim Ashraf but from the activities going on in the PCB he is behaving like any other corrupted and misplaced bureaucrat that are so common in Pakistan.I am afraid our new government is no better and if we kick this doctor out it is certain that a similiar man will take charge i.e.one favoured by Mr.Zardari this time.No doubt Shoaib Akhtar WAS our oustanding matchwinner but he thinks too much of himself and wants to live and play by his own rules.Where there is no restraint,no discipline,no strategy,no mutual respect how can a nation expect victory,respect and self-grace.Shoaib Akhtar has no respect,no discipline,no conscience for the country.Only for himself.Such a man cannot be tolerated at any level of cricket.Those who follow him are either fools or like him wild and uncaring about Pakistan.Please Mr.S.Akhtar do what ever you like but please leave cricket alone.It does not need you.

  • Kamran Rifat on April 4, 2008, 15:37 GMT

    Agreed that Shoaib Akhtar is notorious in his own way but this is just not the way to deal with a player, any player perhaps, playing for the country. All this had made Pakistan Cricket a joke and as if it was not enough Dr Nasim Ashraf comes out waying to file a legal suit of multi million dollars for defaming him and the PCB. I suggest first he should pay for the damage he has caused to the Pakistan Cricket, can not even persuade Australia and then let them go by a penalty by rescheduling the tour. He along with his YES men in PCB should be shown the door and a democratically elected Chairman should be brought in rightaway before the honorable cause more damage to the Pakistan Cricket.

  • Owais on April 4, 2008, 15:26 GMT

    Mr. Sridhar I dont know if you are a Pakistani or an Indian by Excuse me... "Woolmer's Murder???" Woolmer died of natural causes, dont act like India's NDTV and others who first made it a murder (agreed after stupid comments from Sarfraz and the fact that Woolmer was seen with Indian bookies earlier during his SA stint). Indian channels not only made it 110% confirmed murder, they also completed the investigation by accusing and proving (giving their verdict) that it was Inzi and Mushy combining together to poison him and then strangle him to death. Sorry sir, while Pakistan has nothing against India in terms of cricket at least, we wont take this murder nonsense any more !!! so please shut up and talk about your media's own hero to zero and zero to hero approach. Kamran please dont censor me here.

  • Faisal New Jersey - USA on April 4, 2008, 14:16 GMT

    We in Pakistan have no respect for our performers. If Shoaib was an Indian - imagine! He would have been worshipped as a god, he would be the greatest fast bowler ever - considering Indian media, in papers he would be glorified, he would have probably starred in a few bollywood movies, would defiantly be a spoke person for Nike or Reebok, gone to politics, maybe even presidency, but but but the reality is he is only a Pakistani and will go the way Wasim, Waqar, Mustaqh, Miandad have gone...discarded by our Cricketing Board. Pakistani’s have this great knack of discarding our talents : Atif Aslam, Adnan Sami, Ustad Fateh Ali. Sad, really sad.

  • Martin Hook on April 4, 2008, 13:43 GMT

    Javed, if you read your om mail; you would know I was right about overreaction. truth hurts but someone hsa to say it. I am an apolitical animal so please dont drag politics in between as i dont understand it very well. Now you are free to rant again.

  • Alnoor on April 4, 2008, 13:08 GMT

    Dr.Ashraf (current chairman of PCB) has not even played a single game of cricket for pakistan!! He is a doctor who is now made incharge of the cricket board. World cup winner like Imran Khan should be the chairman of PCB.

    Dr.Ashraf is used to live in America. He is General Musharaf's buddy.

    Since this Musharraf took over, Pakistan's cricket has become poor, just like everything else in our country.

    Shame on you doctor.

  • Farooq on April 4, 2008, 12:51 GMT

    Kamran Abbasi has lost him marbles. I think they (PCB) should have banned Shoiab long time ago. He has had far too many chances. Importantly if we let him off again where is he going to stop? Next time it would be something worse because he would know that no one would dare touch him. Now that he's got what he had deserved all along why is there so much fuss all around. When was the last time Shoaib lasted a whole Test / ODI series? The guy is a fake compared to the likes of Brett Lee / McGrath etc.

  • Saad on April 4, 2008, 12:12 GMT

    Shoiab Akhtar hasnt committed any crime,then why the hell he is banned for 5 years. Naseem Ashraf should be sacked and jailed for destroying pakistan cricket.

  • Rameen Hashmi on April 4, 2008, 11:51 GMT

    The only reason the Patron in chief (interestingly he used to be the COAS and the President at the same time as well)gave while retaining Dr. Nasim as Chairman PCB, after the world cup, was that he is one of his better friends, in the organisation where i work, we try to hire even a peon on some merit, when the merit of picking a chairman of an institution of national importance is his level of friendship with the patron, what else can you expect.

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on April 4, 2008, 11:51 GMT

    Sachin's exhaust fan if you are so eager and determined to take in Shoaib Akhtar, please go ahead and take him anytime and, whichever way you like, he is "expressly" all yours. I am sure no one in Pakistan will object to this in fact they will be happy to see him making you guys happy. That will be "a happy ending" for him too. What more do you want? He will be breeding in a totally new breed of fast bowlers in the land of spinners. If you wish to take in Dr. Nasim Ashraf, he too is all yours and that will be like presenting you guys a DNA that will replicate and duplicate many more of his kind.

  • Anand on April 4, 2008, 11:44 GMT

    I am an Indian and a big fan of shoaib akhtar. Pakistan fans please stand up for him and leave all the indiscipline stuff. There are raw guys in every sports, in fact in every field. You must know how to handle them and channelize their energy in right way. If Shoaib loves hogging limelight, then let it be. What does it cost you PCB!! Kudos to PCB for wasting such a talent, who would have been a superstar in any other nation, no offense meant towards pak fans, who i guess must rally behind Akhtar.

  • How does it matter on April 4, 2008, 11:35 GMT

    Wait a sec, why is all this melodrama here? Shoaib has done drugs, beat his teammate, had a nasty record and what is more he was on probation. A ban was always on the cards. Are we crying because he is our best bowler? Bottom line he stinks and it is a good call. Time to move ahead

  • Sridhar on April 4, 2008, 11:30 GMT

    Pakistan cricket has become laughing stock all round the world. Pakistanis who have any sense of pride left must throw not only the chairman & Akhtar but the entire PCB out. Just look at the recent list of ignominous events which have tarnished Pakistan's image: a) Woolmer's murder b) Oval Fiasaco c) Akhtar & Asif testing positive for banned drugs d) Akhtar hitting a teammate with his bat e) Australia cancelling tour f) darrel hair reinstated g) Now this farce with akhtar

    There seems to be no end. How much lower can Pakistan's image sink?

  • Abdur Razzak on April 4, 2008, 11:01 GMT

    this is all what we can expect from political appoinments. musharraf is gone, may be it's time for some body to pull ashraff out of pcb!

  • Owais on April 4, 2008, 10:54 GMT

    Kamran - I agree with you here 100%. Nasim Ashraf should resign from his position now.

  • Sarah on April 4, 2008, 10:11 GMT

    Both Mr.Nasim Ashraf and Shoib Akhtar should be kicked out of Pakistan Cricket. It's a fight between two fools. If either of them wins, Pakistan Cricket will lose !

  • Jibran Mirza on April 4, 2008, 9:44 GMT

    I fail to understand why Shoaib would go around saying stupid things and doing silly childish things when he's on probation anyway. Dr. Ashraf and PCB are well within their right to punish him. Everyone has a go at the PCB for not having a constitution and not following it, yet when they adhere to it, and enforce disciplinary actions, everyone starts cribbing. Shoaib should've been out long before now, and I would also take my hat off for the Indian cricket board, for not allowing him to play for the leagues there. Shows how strong a message they are ready to send out. Even thought Shoaib has more star power across the border and has the ability to pull in numbers for the new bonanza of IPL and ICL, his disciplinary problems would have damaged any team's reputation.

  • zaheer on April 4, 2008, 9:18 GMT

    by any chance can anyone pls tell me that why in a god name we are fighting bcci war and destroying our team on icl issue,we are the only country in the world who are banning there resources when they are in very needs.i firmly belive lahore badsha can beat our natinal team hnds dwon two times a day one before the breakfast one after the lunch.i hope that shoib controversy pain take doctor with him.i really dont want to pray that bangladesh beat us twice so we can see the board of doctors enginares plus few nurses can go and take incharfe of some hospital.shoib pls do me a favor or matter of effect do a country a favor in which you are self proclaimed heroo pls take those doctor with you to india and star doing indain movies man, you become hero and doctor will become larki ka bapp, tum bi kush hum bi kush mtter effect that could be you new movie name too.

  • Sana on April 4, 2008, 9:11 GMT

    we've got rid of one idiot, time to get rid of the other one! they are both the same, selfish and dont care one bit about the cricket. They've both made our team look like idiots, and made us a joke in the cricketing world.

  • don carleone on April 4, 2008, 8:58 GMT

    He needs to be shot. what a loser, what a bad state of affairs... it makes me wish i was indian, so i could show all my love and support to a proper team....

  • S1 on April 4, 2008, 8:52 GMT

    I must agree with Martin Hook on his comments there is a fair bit of overreacting going on and to be fair when Shoaib was regularly out clubbing and doing lines of cocaine (I have heard of a few instances in Manchester but not seen) he was in line for having his career ended by the PCB (indeed look at the case of Romanian footballer Adrian Mutu who was sacked by Chelsea for doing cocaine). However, in light of how Ashraf has been handling things and the comments made by him it looks to me like Shoaib has a case for constructive dismissal (any legal experts please feel free to correct me). Its a shame as Shoaib was starting to knuckle down and really put effort in. Good job on the board for going out of their way to damage Pakistani cricket.

  • Ibrahim Moiz on April 4, 2008, 8:43 GMT

    1) Martin Hook, old boy, a proverbial Englishman is supposed to be a decent sort of fellow. However, having been in Pakistan and England, I must tell you that there are more decent, old-fashioned yet broad-minded types in Pakistan than in England. Mr. Hook, the hippie movement has brainwashed 80 percent of your society. Sad, but there it is. 2) Anyway, I don't like Shoaib, but Dr. Ashraf is even worse. Odd that none of Dr. Ashraf's previous wonky decisions have attracted as much criticism as the one about Shoaib. 3) Shoaib is a matchwinner, but he is a disruptive influence. Granted. However, the charges on which the board have banned him are absurd. After years of being slapped on the wrist for far worse things, why is Shoaib being banned for such a minor act? 4) Dr Ashraf has managed to almost single-handedly turn one of the world's most competitive teams into a laughingstock team. 3) People, give Malik a break. He's a good cricketer and has done his best despite the wonky board.

  • srivathsan on April 4, 2008, 8:02 GMT

    Kamran, I dont agree with you on this.While I agree that Shoab did not commit any crime in criticising PCB on the contract & the punishment is too harsh,How can you expect ashraaf to keep quiet when he is accused of demanding cut backs ?Had he not challenged,it would have amounted to accepting the charges.I am sure that even you would have done the same thing had you been in ashraf's position.I fully endorse AWAS in this regard.Iam not batting for ashraf here.Removing him for any other valid reason is a different issue but not for this.See the way shoab recklessly accusing others in the media.As JAVED A KHAN rightly pointed out,if shoab akhther is reinstated,he will definitely be more arrogant which may not be in the interest of pakistan cricket.Naseem ashraf may not be holy & need to be changed but he has done some good things also like encouraging youngsters which deserves appreciation. Give the devil its due.

  • Muhammad Ali Sajjad on April 4, 2008, 7:26 GMT

    Oh.. come on kami How many times can we forgive shoaib for misbehaving? This had to be done because noone is bigger than the game! I It may seem a harsh punishment but he was already on parole(probition), Remember? Like ramiz raja when he had it comming. (bauhat) dair say aaye darust aaye! better late than never!

  • Gohar Hasan on April 4, 2008, 7:17 GMT

    Well Dr. is behaving like a dictator where his words are finals!! And don't compare Akhtar with Iftikhar lolz!! Now this will be the fight of EGO!! But tell me DO SHOAIB has any EGO..... WEll lets c ! who has to go a Dictator or DEMOCRAT..

  • Mandeep on April 4, 2008, 7:12 GMT

    shoaib got what he deservs...he should have been thrown away ages ago..well done dr ashraf...

  • Zahid on April 4, 2008, 7:12 GMT

    PCB has shabbily slapped a five year ban on Shoaib Akther.It is certainly an attempt to sabotage his already dwindling career.PCB has alleged Shoaib of breaching its so called code of conduct. This justification for grotesque decision of banning Akther for five years is totally ridiculous. Because Shoaib Akther is not signatory of PCB’s central contract. That is why he is not at all required to abide by central contract clauses. As Shaoib is not contracted to PCB so they can’t gag him. Shoaib Akther is a national hero. He has done wonderfully well for Pakistan over the years.PCB has been falsely pin pointing him on every other pity instance.PCB’s current administration always tries to portray him as a cantankerous person. Everywhere else in the world sporting heroes are given a special status. They are respected because they bring laurels to their respective countries. But here in Pakistan instead of doing that PCB is maligning him.PCB Chairman Dr. Nasim Asharaf trumps up various cumbrous issues against him every other day. Only fault of Shoaib Akther is that he isn’t an obsequious and servile person. That’s why Shoaib is being nibbled and caviled. But I believe Shoaib is a chivalrous person. He can’t be cowed by this lunacy on the part of PCB’s bigwigs. This ban, if came into effect, will prove hugely disastrous for our cricket. But Dr.Nasim Asharaf is bent on destroying Pakistan’s cricketing future.

  • Daniyal on April 4, 2008, 6:44 GMT

    Stupid Shoaib as usual seems to have landed himself in more hot water since I commented here now he may be facing disciplinary action from the ICC for failing to report offers to under perform. Another reason why he needs to think about what he says on national tv.

  • Philip John Joseph on April 4, 2008, 6:37 GMT

    Well, I would tend to come down on the side of the player when it's player versus pro-administrator, so I would probably side with Shoaib. Shoaib does have some disciplinary issues, and the actor Meera has suggested he would benefit from getting married, especially since he is already 32. Under these circumstances, it would be better to have someone like Imran Khan as the PCB Chairman. A legend like Imran Khan, being a player himself, would know how to deal with someone like Shoaib. Dr. Naseem Ashraf is a professional administrator and in a sport like cricket, I think it would be better for the administrators to be ex-players rather than professional administrators, preferably legends like Imran Khan, Waqar Younis etcetera. The BCCI has a much worse problem, where the powerful administrators are all professional politicians/liars, either officially or unofficially, like Sharad Pawar and Lalit Modi et al. At least Dr. Naseem is not a politician. Best of luck Shoaib, hope you win.

  • Adeel Azhar on April 4, 2008, 6:26 GMT

    Absolutely childish your thoughts are... Who are you? a PML (N) supporter?? Whatever sympathy Shoaib got after the ban have been turned around by his allegation on Dr. Ashraf and look at you, you think Ashraf should leave only `cause he has given a legal notice. how would you react? i think we should form an opinion about Akhtar after reading the remarks of players who have played against him. read inzi's comments today?? Shoaib got what he deserved and i think it shud have happened 5 years back!

  • ramesh Narayan on April 4, 2008, 6:07 GMT

    I admire Shoaib as a bowler, but have no time for him as a Cricketer or a man. He should have been dealt with a long time ago, first by counselling and then punitively. The fault is not Ashraful's alone, at least he has finally done something whatever the motivation may be. The malaise in the PCB is old and deep routed. To use an analogy, if a commercial organisation consistently has labour problems, wouldn't the stake holders hold management guilty of mismanagement and take action against it? Similarly, the PCB must be held accountable for allowing things to reach such a state.

  • Ghalib Khan on April 4, 2008, 6:06 GMT

    its yet another shame for pakistan cricket its yet another war of ego btw player and board head shoaib would again b back.....and ashfar wud be embarassed....he cant ever justify the consistency of his decision making... we need a professional head weather a cricketer or not

  • Taha Zaidi on April 4, 2008, 6:01 GMT

    I think that we as pakistanis need cricketers who are mentally tough and have the guts to perform and carry the load. Shoaib Akhtar in my opinion is not that type of player in the long run. His fitness and discipline were always gonna slow him down career wise. It didn't have to end this way but he chose it for himself. This is going to hopefully bring in new fresh players in the team and also relieve the Pakistan Cricket Board who have done a very poor job over the past 2 years or so. I think Pakistan Cricket Board should lift the ban from the ICL Players and stand up to the big bullies that are the ICC and BCCI. Otherwise like Rameez Raja said, everyone will walk over us like they are now.

  • Figmund Sreud on April 4, 2008, 5:30 GMT

    Hi Martin, Si Senor .I 'av red zomvere zat Englismen do under-react,ezpecially in bed.I alwaz wonderd if zat's why I get zo lucky in Zing(lack of)land. Thou are az brave as Don Quixote in my eyez to admit zat.

  • Waqqas Qavi - Melbourne on April 4, 2008, 5:27 GMT

    continue..Shoaib’s open air blabs and recriminations and Ahsraf’s intuition compelled his insight that it is time for an impish vengeance. Ashraf has flipped and tweaked Shoaib’s comments only to explicitly display his ever-implicit intentions. It is due to these peculiar states inculcated and reiterated by our board and player(s) that the future of cricket has been left to anachronism in the country. I believe any comments in favour of Shoaib are simply futile as act as impediments for cricket in Pak or cricket as a game in general. Furthermore as they say in Urdu ‘sonay pay suhaga’, the stodgy and conjuring example set by Mr.Ashraf adds credence to mismanagement of people and denigration of the game. As a footnote, the reality is so variant to the espoused values as every individual has only abdicated the job role and if I am supposed to be commiserating PCB or Shoaib – I don’t think so…

  • Waqqas Qavi - Melbourne on April 4, 2008, 5:25 GMT

    It might as well be a good idea to stamp a laughing emoticon prior to registering my thoughts on Naseem Ahsraf’s malfeasance of suing Shoaib as I am appalled by it. What a farcical end to an adolescent saga! I share harmony with Z Fazel about Shoaib predominantly being a liability than an asset. Pak will produce more fast bowlers and hopefully they are learning from these incumbent lessons received by Shoaib. It would have been fascinating to observe him crashing top orders and breaking some toes but alas! He could barely recover from early childhood cricket issues on and off the field and lacks longevity. The decision imposed by Mr.Ashraf is a mere reflection of idiocy and is in congruence with a true political pathetic Pakistani act. Is he requesting clemency or is this outright bureaucracy? One would expect remorse to sink in, but not when such controversies appear to be lucrative and loaded with perks. PCB took no time to peruse continue..

  • Sajjad Kazmi on April 4, 2008, 5:03 GMT

    Shoaib deserves much more than what he has been punished for, only the timing is not right. This will become another political expedition for anti PM clout. The unfortunate thing is that Shoaib's sympathisers are giving him wrong advice to play in the hands of media. Whatever he has said on a private channel regarding kickback and cuts demanded by Nasim Ashraf from him and other players from IPL fees is sheer stupidity. This slip of tongue or deliberate outrageous outburst will put Shoaib's case on weak ground. Also, the statement regarding briefcase full of currency offered in South Africa to under perform can convince his diehard supporters, but not to general public. Team manager has already issued the statement of having no knowledge of this. ICC watchdogs have also been watching Shoaib's affairs closely. Shoaib's case is worsening with each statement coming out of his mouth. BE AWARE SHOAIB!!!

  • Sachin Fan, florida, usa on April 4, 2008, 5:03 GMT

    Shoaib is the only king left among bunch of cowards. Shoaib must now go to india and try his luck in Bollywood with blessings of SRK. Why waste yr talent in land of suicide bombers and stupid dictators ? May Force be with you !!!!!! Mr. J(er)k from Canada, next time try to be less obnoxious . Who knows yr fellow pakistani bloggers may actually start liking you . LOL Peace Out !! Sachin Fan !!!

  • Mastan Khan on April 4, 2008, 4:23 GMT

    Kamran, most of the readers don't understand that it looks silly for a government agency and it's head to sue a player over criticizm. Tomorrow when any pakistani individual will criticize a government agency, its head is going to sue that individual. What a joke---and I am surprised at a lack of understanding on the part of readers. Next time a victim of bribery will be sued by the SHO of a downtown thanna / police station in anywhere pakistan. Shoaib's failure is a failure of the management, as a matter of fact it is the mis-management of this top notch world class talent which has created this ruckus. Look at the fiasco created by Nasim Ashraf---no communication with M Yousuf, Imran Farhat, Abdul Razzaq---. I think pakistani players need a union or a full time attorney representing their cause. I think due to a lack of legal advice, pakistani players are suffering. I didnot see an attorney with Shoaib during his tv interviews.

  • Lucifer on April 4, 2008, 4:09 GMT

    Musharraf made Pakistan a joke in the world. And now this guy Ashraf made Pak cricket a shithole. Does Pakistan have real patriots these days or is the country full of traitors?

  • Ahsun on April 4, 2008, 3:47 GMT

    Before commenting on the topic itself, a note on the comments and the people who have made those comments thus far. Please kindly think before you write and re-read before you post. Some of the stuff written sounds downright childish and rude. Freedom of thought and speech is all well and good but you have to use it with intelligence. Otherwise what are we but animals. As for Mr Akhtar and Mr Ashraf, I hope they realize and soon that it is just not their image they are ruining but the image of Pakistan Cricket as a whole. We all wish for Shoaib to fulfill his potential but I do not think he is being sincere to himself, to his fans and Pakistan cricket. Mr Ashraf, with all that is going on in Pakistan, cricket is one of the things we turn to to uplift our spirits. Please do not crumble them under two faced policies, business practices and legal matters. Cricket is the so-called Gentleman's sport. Let us all behave like gentlemen and treat cricket like a sport for a change.

  • HSH on April 4, 2008, 2:56 GMT

    Why is everything in Pakistan centered around individuals and not institutions? This is now a personal duel between two villains at the cost of Pakistan cricket. Between the two, Shoaib is the one who has earned a few victories for Pakistan while the Doctor has brought nothing but humiliation. If one has to be banned it should be the "Doctor". In any case, under the circumstances is there a need for a cricket board in Pakistan now that cricket is buried deep under the PCBs BS. What are the criteria of appointment as a PCB chief? Mega stupidity, proximity to those in power and a determination for self gratification. I hope there is some accountability of the PCB. Shoaib is a self indulging fool but I believe it's the Doctor who has murdered Pakistan cricket.

  • kamranji on April 4, 2008, 1:01 GMT

    So whats stopping you from take legal action ? Rest of the world is sick of spoilt egositic brats like Akthar Should have been dealth with him much earlier

  • sunny on April 4, 2008, 1:01 GMT

    first of all DNA idiot should LEAVE ASAP. Examples like this u dun find in any management course. I think he should right a book on how to screw up an organization. will be a best seller. Second, just reading few things above i dun understand why people care what shoaib does off the field. I bet you any money, any one of us who were in his shoes or even in our personal life have done all such things wht he do i.e clubbing. well if some ppl didnt get a chance so too bad. As long as he performs in the field and scares the sh** out of opposition, i dun care. Ppl who dun like him should go back and read comments by indian batsmen in the recent series. They only feared shoaib bowling, rest were all club bowlers. ahah so how team can be better without him. PCB got rid of match winner before and after shoaib, afridi and yousaf are next in line and then pakistan team ka ALLAH hafiz.

  • dikha on April 4, 2008, 0:55 GMT

    Kamran. While we attempt to ouster Ashraf, why not the entire boad. The public will appoint has the new PCB head and allow you to select a board and a cricket team. Then rest of the world would be really happy that you can not only talk but walk the talk.

  • Yohan on April 4, 2008, 0:50 GMT

    Millions of cricket fans world over (outside Pakistan for certainly)think Akthar is a spoilt brat. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • Hussain on April 4, 2008, 0:00 GMT

    I do agree that Ashraf needs to quit but lets not shift our focus away from Shoaib. First and foremost, this idiot needs to be fired once and for all before we change our administration. He is a parasite and as long as he is in the team, there will be controversies. Most current players wouldn't say it, but I wouldn't be surprized if they were happy with this life ban. Its sad to see those British Pakistani fans protesting for this pathetic excuse of a cricketer. Had he been part of any other board, he would have been out long time ago.

  • Muhammad Akram on April 3, 2008, 23:35 GMT

    I am very dissappointed the way PCB and players are dealing with the problems. I will strongly recommend that both Nasim Asharaf and Shoib Akhter should be ban for watching, talking or touching circket bat and ball for the life time. There should be some decent and mature people in the PCB , who knows cricket by heart and soul.

  • nasir on April 3, 2008, 23:33 GMT

    Shoaib should have retired after the India series since he was neither fit and his decline as a force was obvious. Ashraf should have resigned after the World Cup. No one in Pakistani cricket does what and when they are supposed to. Result is out team which despite all the talent should be a top side but instead is in a sorry state.

  • Jamie Dowling on April 3, 2008, 22:58 GMT

    Dear me! The moment the PCB finally starts showing spine and doing the right thing and people are up in arms about it. I didn't hear anyone saying "Why was Shahriyar Khan sounding off on Test Match Special instead of helping defuse the situation?" when the Oval test match incident happened? No, it was all "Darrell Hair is racist and should never umpire again".

    Let's get something clear here. International ports administration needs to be professional. That means professional standards of conduct apply to the players and administrators. If a player can't respect the authority of his governing board then he has no place in the sport.

    How stupid do you have to be to be on probation and still behave like an immature schoolboy?

    Sure, let's overreact, sack the board and replace it with a bunch of puppets. Sensible, measured judgements can go hang. We want blood.

    That very reaction is making Pakistan cricket a laughing stock.

  • Awas on April 3, 2008, 22:25 GMT

    Shoaib Akhtar Epissode 11

    I don’t quite agree with you here Kamran. If someone is suggesting that the chairman is asking for his cut from the players for sighing up with IPL then that is quite a slur if untrue and tantamount to defamation. Its is just like being branded Mr 10% or 20% in the case of a famous widower who is now on the helm of this country. So, DNA is right in going the litigation route but I wonder if the court case would go the same way as all of that widower’s cases.

    I have no sympathy for the chairman but the accusation if untrue is definitely slanderous.

    Saad Khan & Theossa – Seem to be the only ones on the same wavelength here.

    As one US president once said in his famous words which I rephrase differently it’s the thriller STUPID. So wait for it, watch the next episode.

    Martin Hook

    My friend, you need to understand other people’s cultures as well. Not everyone behaves like a proverbial Englishman. I would have thought you would have realised this a little more than meets the eye from your comments as surly you live in a multi-cultural society.

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on April 3, 2008, 22:17 GMT

    Hey Martin Hooka; stop yir footerin ya razz nut, first you accuse ALL Pakistanis by saying: "it shows lack of perspective that comes from a society that lacks perspective in other areas as well." If you consider yourself so superior then why are you here? Actually you are sounding like a "Numpty Troll Bampot" by saying "Nasim Ashraf is doing what his compatriots will do in likely situations," Do you mean to say its just like what blair did when he was bushed around the corner to lie about WMD? Come on you nimpy sweetie don't be so saintly like a tight lipped hoochie mama after splattering clabber from yir skittery hippen. What a Saint Joker you are, I couldn't stop laughing when you bragged about yourself by saying: "We Englishmen under-react." I am sure being an Old Spice Englishman you understand these Scottish slangs, it should be enough to "bolt ya rocket."

  • M. Y. Kasim. Houston, Tx. USA on April 3, 2008, 22:17 GMT

    Part II

    The most important thing to do beside cleaning up the PCB from top to bottom is to kick that useless and highly or rather overly paid stupid "Coach".

    What has been his contribution so far?

    What has he achieved?

    How many fast bowlers has he produced or developed?

    Look at India's bowling coach and his achievments. Compare it with Pakistan's abundance of wasted talents due to corrupt practices of PCB bosses and its yes men.

    You need 10,000 characters to name the players who were either ignored or deliberatly not given a chance and their careers went down the drain.

    I am not defending Shoaib Akhtar. He should have been shown the door five years ago. But a life ban? No way. Everybody knows his tantrums. Simply tell him its over. Period. To deprive him his ego, his life-style, his lust for money and fame and above all, his livelyhood smack of personal jealousy and animosity. Who gave you the right to ruin his career? What he does off the field is his affair

  • srking on April 3, 2008, 22:17 GMT

    I guess the only solution to this problem is to make Shoaib Akhtar the captain of pakistan cricket team. Once he is given responsibility he will automatically improve and realize his mistakes. Also he should be made the sole selector of players as well as selector of coach so that he has complete control over proceedings. The more responsibility given to him the faster he will imrpove in his dedication and discipline.

  • Z Fazel on April 3, 2008, 22:01 GMT

    Something is seriously wrong with your sense of judgement. I am surprised that instead of upholding discipline, you are advocating rebellion. Lack of respect for the rule of law is one of the major problems in Pakistan cricket. I cannot believe it but what you are saying is: 'yes, Shoaib, play the test, come off the field whenever you wish. Feign injuries. Break the team's night curfew rule. Disobey the captain and the Coach. Take perfomance enhancing drugs. Hit fellow team-mate with a bat in the dressing room'. I once again repeat that he is a liability and the game is bigger than an individual. Pakistan has always produced fast bowlers and will produce more. You make it sound as if Shoaib is the only fast bowler that will ever be produced by Pakistan and desparately try to plead his re-instatement. You may not agree on many aspects with Nasim Ashraf the PCB Chairman, but that is another issue altogher.

  • Ashaq on April 3, 2008, 21:55 GMT

    Yeah...! and what took you so long, to finally say the Doctor needs to go.

    It took the Pcb about 5 years too late to say, that Shoaib Akthar needs to go.

    And it took you like a Year to finally state the obvious, that Doctor needs to go. When it looks quite clear that he is about to go, in any case...!!!!

    Lawson needs to go, and Malik needs to go. Kaneria needs to go, Kamran Akmal needs to go And the selection committee needs to go.

    We need Rashad Latif as coach ... Afridi as captain, Mudassar Nazar as head of Pcb, Moin khan as Badshah of selectors.

  • shaffy on April 3, 2008, 21:54 GMT

    kamran i am a big fan of yours. but although i agree the ban on shoaib was unfair and uncalled for, i do believe that a Pakistani team without Shoaib akhtar would be a better 1. He is not someone i would want to associate with and therefore i wouldnt wnt him to represent my country.

  • Osman Ali Khairi on April 3, 2008, 21:54 GMT

    What a disgrace! Both Nasim and Shoaib should be banned.

  • Zarak Khan on April 3, 2008, 21:54 GMT

    I am with Shoaib on this. He has his problems but he and the Pakistani cricket fans don?t deserve this. Pakistan cricket is in shambles. As Shoaib correctly pointed out the current Pak team couldn?t even beat the Lahore Badshahs. And to further rub salt into the wounds Naseem Ashraf has the audacity to serve legal papers on Shoaib for 100 million ruppees where he himself ( Naseem Ashraf) needs to be strung upside down for bringing disrepute and committing crimes against the Pakistani nation. See below:

    Another big financial scandal revolves around Mush?s sycophant and Pak American expatriate Dr.Naseem Ashraf, the National Commission for Human Development (NHCD), a body created cleverly under law and then smartly weaved into a privately owned Pakistan Human Development Fund (PHDF). Please follow link below for more details:

    http://www.antisystemic.org/satribune/www.satribune.com/archives/200509/P1_ fund.htm

  • Bilal on April 3, 2008, 20:43 GMT

    What else you can expect from a protege of a fallen from grace patron?

    What the patron is still doing without remorse or shame is what the protege is doing with the country's most famous talent. In both cases they care more of their own pride and arrogance and least of public sentiment! Alas, history keeps repeating itself in Pakistan!!

  • IWillNotDisclose on April 3, 2008, 20:19 GMT

    Very true Mr Kamran. I am amazed by the decision to sue Shoaib. If pakistan cricket is in problem, its because of its administrators. All must be sued and sacked and instead they should go with a professional body even if they have to import someone. And to Mr Shoiab, who think he is the smartest man in Pakistan, just shut up for some time and let lawyers do there home-work. Better, go out and practice to stay fit till 38 just in case your ban is not lifted.

  • Daniyal on April 3, 2008, 20:08 GMT

    I don't think any one in Naseem Ashraf's shoes would have welcomed the comments made by Shoaib. As much as I detest the reign of Ashraf fact is the national hero needs to grow up and accept responsibly instead of spewing out what ever comes to his mind on national tv. Can any one in their right mind say that Shoaib thought the comments would go unnoticed?

  • Badar on April 3, 2008, 19:48 GMT

    Dr.Ash has gone far too ahead in his cruel intentions against Shaoib Akhtar. This is purely selfish on his part to sue the national hero. Dr.Ash is just too embarrased to see the overwhelming support for Shoaib Akhtar. He can't stand the love and backing for Shoaib. He has made this his personal anemosity. Dr.Ash is perhaps aware of his own fate and that's why he's going loco in desperation. Dr.Ash has brought shame and embarrasment to Pakistan and he should be fired immediately for bringing disrepute to the country and the game. But who's going to do that? the Patron in Chief who himself isn't sure of his own future and who did nothing in his capacity to pressurize and convince the Australian govt to send their team last month? That's exactly what happens when appointments are made on a friendship basis, not through proper channels. It's about time we bring democracy in the PCB as well. We hope our newly elected officials to immediately intervene and sack Dr Ash or he'll go mucho loco

  • Bigra_Hua_Pakistani on April 3, 2008, 19:44 GMT

    Why has Shoaib Akhtar become so high in some people's eyes that he cant even be touched? Shoaib Akhtar has transgressed his limits many many times ..... Hero or no Hero ..... he must be tamed. You cant just accuse someone of extorting funds - this is a serious issue. Sadly Pakistanis are not aware of the implications of such words.....

    Mr. Abbasi probably you should pause and think before you slap off another blog. You take long gaps between blogs and then suddenly fire off multiple blogs ..... this approach loses the value of your words in people's eyes.

  • Taha on April 3, 2008, 19:41 GMT

    I'm sorry if it seems blunt. But you should coer whats happening in Pakistani domestic cricket and also whats going on with pakistani cricketers in ICL & IPL.

  • M .Y. Kasim. Houston, Tx. USA on April 3, 2008, 19:38 GMT

    I have been saying this for a long time that this Doctor and his Compoundrs and his Ullus and Sallus, Lock, Stock and Barrel should be kicked out and be replaced with men of experiennce, vision and above all, honesty. (which is very rare in Pakistan).

    Unless this is done, we better try our hand at Hockey, Squash or even Gilli Danda, for that matter, instead of wasting our time, money and energy.

    And before disbanding this band, full accountability of millions, nay, billions of rupees should be undertaken which has been spent on the pretext of promoting cricket in Paris, Rome, Madrid and New York with the Begum Shebas of Big Bosses of PCB.

    The money that could and should have been spent in improving the piches, the playing fields and stadia, the facilities of shades, water, fruits and foods to the fans etc. instead of free passes to friends and families of board and high civil and military officials while former greats like Imtiaz Ahmed, Hanif Mohammad etc. are rebuked.

  • Amirali on April 3, 2008, 19:29 GMT

    no offence but shoaib very well deserved the ban he got...this is very natural for all the paki supporters to go gaga about his ban...u talk about reputition of Pak cricekt being at stake after what ashraf has done it has always been at stake thanks to people like shoaib who think that pak cricket is a a kids game they once used to play in their backyard

  • Osman Ali Khairi on April 3, 2008, 19:18 GMT

    Nasim should have gone after the mishandling of the dummy episode with Younis Khan. Oh wait, maybe after the world cup debacle, when Ireland um managed to get the better of us. Perhaps, after letting our players being treated as murder suspects, he should have been shown the door. Or maybe, after scheduling one of our worst test and ODI programs and being unable to convince any of the other countries to visit us, he should have quietly left. Come to think of it, he should have been shot after letting Shoaib and Asif off the hook for taking banned substances. Also, his perpetual intervention in selection issues, permanent attachment with the team on foreign tours, his obsession with the trivial beard factor, his capitulation at the hands of the BCCI and finally, his weak retort at the reinstatement of Hair should have completely shoved him out of the picture. But alas, the man stood firm. I'll give him that! What a legacy he leaves behind. Um, whatsmore, he's not finished. Yet.

  • Shakaib on April 3, 2008, 19:10 GMT

    Dr Ashraf is a ego maniac who is running the PCB as if he owns it. He has completely destroyed the cricket in pakistan. Look at lahore badshah, that looks better team than the pakistani national team. What did Abdul Razzaq do to deserve to be left out, look how good he is performing for ICL. Now Nasim Ashraf is after Afridi and wants frustrate him and let him go. This is a player which IPL bought out by paying the highest amount of money. Naseem Ashraf who is a progeny of dictator musharraf is just following his path. We need to stop him and get him back to his original profession (i dont know whether he remembers any health care now)

  • Saad Khan on April 3, 2008, 19:09 GMT

    I would have to respectfully disagree with you Kamran. No one has the right in a civilized world to make false accusations against any person or organization. The only legal course of action when someone acts in such a way is to sue him. Despite having my problems with the way Nasim Ashraf has conducted business at PCB, Shoaib has no right to make such accusations against him or the board. We talk about our institutions being strong, how can that happen if we continue to side with individuals against institutions. Shoaib needs to learn the lesson on how to conduct himself on and off the field and when people like him do not understand despite repeated warnings, punishment is the only way. So, please don't harp on how Shaoib was done wrong. You know well enough that he got what he deserved. Its fans and commentators like you who helps him play the role of a "victim" and make a mockery out of our institutions.

  • Hamza on April 3, 2008, 18:55 GMT

    With a change in establishment, it's obvious Naseem Ashraf will be leaving very soon. All these allegations would be dropped as soon as he is replaced by someone else which i suppose, would happen sooner or later. The question is that what benefit would be reaped once the ban is completely overturned ? None. In fact, it would only help Shoaib's cause of becoming more arrogant, disrespectful and believing that he is one of Kevin Costner's 'Untouchables'. In the larger context, Shoaib can't withstand the demands of the game. The Pindi Express is fast but derails off the track after bearly travelling 200 meters.His ever-recurring injuries remind me of two individuals who were exact opposites of each other in a movie called 'The Unbreakable'. One whom people called 'Mr. Glass' and the other who never got injured. Brett Lee and Shoaib are in fact exact opposites of each other one being supremely fit while the other , supremely fragile.

  • Sohail Shad on April 3, 2008, 18:52 GMT

    As u once said Kamran that each time a drama unfolds on Pakistan cricket we show our displeasure , become laughing stock for others think ohh this is it cant get any worse and than yet again Pakistan cricket comes up with another episode. Being a Pakistani who lived in Pakistan i have seen some pretty badly run organizations. But PCB has topped the list i think. They are disgrace. There used to be a time i wouldnt miss a single ball of a Pakistan game and now i dont watch a single ball in a game (well if we play at all). Pakistan cricket has seen worse behaviours and situations than this in past but one way or another it was managed. A team of muppits sitting in cricket board getting their pay cheques and enjoying a high life . Thats all PCB is all about now. I think everybody would agree not far ago PCB and BCCI used to on equal footings and today BCCI can dictate PCB and everybody knows that. A board which cant secure a single test game in a year deserves nothing but sacking. plzzzz

  • Nuruddin Lakhani on April 3, 2008, 18:46 GMT

    Nasim Ashraf will be regarded as the villain of Pakistan Cricket in the history. This particular personal war with Shoaib Akhtar will be the highlight of his tenure as the chairman of the PCB that brought the downfall of Pakistan Cricket. The past 2 years have been the worst for Pakistan Cricket starting at the Oval incident - and since this character has taken over, things have just gone in reverse direction. No matter how bad Shaoib is, we all know that he has talent and he proven it on the cricket field. The whole issue could have been dealt in much better way than igniting the personal war. I agree . . . its time to go for Dr. Nasim Ashraf.

  • Usman Syed on April 3, 2008, 18:31 GMT

    That is true, time to go indeed! All of us know what he does is wrong, what we also know is that he indirectly works for a big politician of the country, and I am sure he is the biggest right now. Anyway, Dr Ashraf has crossed the line time and again and now I think it is time for him to get banned. Not even a suspension will do. Shoaib Akhtar on the other hand, we know is an irreplacable asset to the team ONLY when he is handled with properly. Trust me, cricket isn't the only sport with discipline and behaviour problems. In other sports, suppose if a player hits a fellow player intentionally, he'll get banned for a couple of weeks at most (3-5 games). But oh no! In cricket, everything has to be so political!

  • Martin Hook on April 3, 2008, 18:28 GMT

    Well Dr.Ashraf is doing what his compatriots will do in likely situations. He is over-reacting. Folks, instead of taking offense at my words--and I really don't mean to be offensive to anyone--please do a scientific test on your comments as compared to some other blogs and see how many incendiary comments are made by so called fans. Even if you go around with a searchlight you would not find hyper reactive, knee jerk comments like the ones made by Javed Kahn regularily on these pages. Bombastic, boring, abusive and constantly missing the point. You all seem to be suffering from the same disease: Hyper-agitaion cum overreaction.

  • Faraz Zaidi on April 3, 2008, 18:24 GMT

    What hope do we have? the patron has already rejected his resignation once :D

    Ashraf has confirmed it now that he has made it a personal issue.

  • Usman on April 3, 2008, 18:13 GMT

    Ohh my GOD.....what is wrong with Mr Ashraf....i hope some one one just put him behind bars for messing up our cricket so badly, it sounds like some horoor story of corporate america where CEO can get away with looots and employees get layed off.........I mean PCB has taken so many U-Turns on policies that it's a joke, first they take very stupid decision and then back track their decision on the apeals of a player, this is just pathatic. Ashraf you have destroyed cricket you are just like Mushraf and your days are numbered, no one wants to play in Pakistan, you have no skills to convince any one, you have not even been able to convince ICC to revert the decision on the England ball temparing and Darel Hair issue , our entire cricket calander is empty, our local teams are pathatic, our cricket acadamy is use less, our player performance is in gutter, our player moral is zero, please go away mr ashraf, i think Akhtar is right that yuo have asked for money, otherwise why would you sue?

  • shakir hasnain on April 3, 2008, 18:12 GMT

    This pathetic excuse for a chairman must go nay he must disappear without a trace ! His strolls around the bush, his proven incompetence not to mention his ties with another bullying blithering gent are reason enough for a cricketing revolution in pak.

    Shoaib himself is a media happy non professional has been but there are still some spells left in him and pakistan cricket should not throw him overboard just because a dolt such as ashraf thinks so. Kamran apologies are in order. I have been guilty of violating forum etiquette but I just couldn´t keep the foam from flying whilst discussing ashraf and his goons.

    be well shakir

  • Imran Khalid on April 3, 2008, 18:11 GMT

    Nasim Ashraf has out done himself. Over the years there have been numerous calls for his removal from the helm of the PCB. None have been louder than the current cries for his ouster. If banning him for 5 years wasn't good enough, Mr Ashraf has followed up one mistake by an audacious decision to file a personal lawsuit against Shoaib Akhter. Granted, Mr Akhtar has been careless in the way he has handled himself but the punishment must fit the crime. It is about time Mr Ashraf learned that two wrongs don't make a right. Goodbyes are hard but Mr Ashraf's antics have made sure that the farewell he'll receive will be a breeze.

  • Lara Lappa on April 3, 2008, 18:09 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, I can not agree with you more. I feel like the Pakistani Cricket fans should sue Nasim Ashraf for runing the Pakistani cricket and now ruining any chnace of watchin world's fastest bowler in action. When will Nasim Ashraf be held accountable for loosing WC'07, loosing the series to India, having no decent series lined up for Pakistan in 2008? Is he above any accountability? What has he given to cricket any way?

    Nasim Ashraf, please leave and let us enjoy cricket. Enough is enough.

    I don't condone Akhtar's behaviour but don't think he deserves such treatment by his countrymen aswell. Kudos to all who are lining up behind Akhtar on this issue. I hope he fights it all the way.

    Goodluck Shoaib. A fan!

  • Dr Athar Abbas, Washington DC on April 3, 2008, 17:46 GMT

    Cricket is played by players not by the boards. Forget your authority. It is only a dream now Sooner than later the boards have to realize that they are like employers in the free world economy. A good and talented employee has to be taken care of, not commanded. If the a given employer does not take care of the talented employee, Some other company will. It is their talent that everything revolves around. If Dr Ashraf is the central attraction, let him do a meeting in Gaddafi stadium, and see how many cricket lovers will come in and watch him. I repeat, Cricket is played by crickers like Shoaib with a charisma. Although, they fight like an army for the pride of the country, yet their war is won by talent not discipline. If Dr. Ahsraf needs discipline, he should run a primary school or a bunch of Cadets academy. Cricket needs talent of Miandads, Imran Khans, Waqars and Akrams. That is what will always survive and shine.

  • tirmizi on April 3, 2008, 17:28 GMT

    I can't agree more Kamran. Since taking charge, Mr Ashraf has done all he can and allowed all which can happen to disgrace and downgrade Pakistan Cricket. Yes Shoaib Akhtar has become a liability. Yes he has been physically unfit for most of the last 3 years and hasnt played much international cricket. Yes he doesnt follow discipline. But he is the ONLY 90 miles+ bowler thats been playing for Pakistan for last few years. Have we discovered a replacement for him? Is he unable to play and deliver any longer? Is there no other way we can mange him? These were the vital questions that should have been answered prior to this. From the Doping scandal to the shameful end of World cup campaign to poor handling of most players in general and Shoaib in particular, Mr Ashraf has shown his abundant talent of mismanagement.He has no credentials to head an organization which is enormously important to most Pakistanis. I would change ur comment a lilbit. It's THE time to KICK HIM OUT

  • Faisal Taquie on April 3, 2008, 17:19 GMT

    I absolutely agree with you Kamran! Mr. Ashraf does not have the management skills to leave his personal anguish against Shoaib aside. Mr. Ashraf is displeased with Shoaib's interest in Bollywood, his love to be in the limelight, etc.. Well, in that regards Shoaib isn't the only one. There are players in every team who want to be in the limelight: Kevin Peterson, Bhajji, Symonds, etc. and they bring in the crowd. There are ways to handle people and Mr. Ashraf, clearly does not know them. Look at Brett Lee, he loves singing and Bollywood and he has done both while representing Australia and the Aussie's didn't make a fuss about it. Clearly, what Shoaib does outside of his cricket time isn't PCB's business but alas......Mr. Ashraf is a dictatrially elected dictator control freak!!!

  • Shakil on April 3, 2008, 17:17 GMT

    As a Bangladeshi I am delighted as we have a small opening due to unrest in Pakistani camp. But as a fan I understand what is going through Pakistani fan. The management style of Dr Ashraf should be a textbook stuff for every Management major as how not to run your organization. It is high time for Pakistan to get rid of this Joker. Sorry folks.

  • Bilal on April 3, 2008, 17:16 GMT

    oh...& I must ammend my post as well....let me start where I had left... ."...time to go IN SHAME....YOU CLOWNS"...& since one of the CLOWN has already seen the writing on the wall...that it is INDEED time to go.... no wonder his last attempt to dig into the riches of Pakistan is by trying to sue Shaoib....to see if any money can be had...of a DEAL....by either withdrawing these charges...or by somehow extrapolting them...to other boards/leagues.....you know...and what do you know...!!!

  • A.R. Minhas on April 3, 2008, 17:15 GMT

    Couldn't agree with u more Kamran...the fans of Pakistan cricket should wake up and see tht the head of our cricketing institution is a power-hungry,incompetent, tyrant...n its' abt time he goes...n when he does plz don't elect one of musharafs' cronies...select some one who actually knows soemthing abt cricket.

  • afzaal on April 3, 2008, 17:11 GMT

    Agreed Kamran sahib, and while we at it can we plz get rid of coach too?

  • Alex on April 3, 2008, 17:07 GMT

    Punishment didnt fit the crime? How hard is it for you to grasp that he has a long list of offenses!! Do u understand the concept of being out on Parole? Its because people like you who are willing to accept less, pakistan cricket is where it is right now.

  • Bilal on April 3, 2008, 17:00 GMT

    It all reflects on the incompitency of the Patron of Pakistan cricket....yes...Mr. Prsident..!! The way he has managed the country....or I should say mis-managed.....is the same way he has succeded in bringing shame to us in Cricket....which once...was our national pride. Thank you Musharaf for all your incompetence. I didn't want to sound potilcal...since that's the least of my interest in Pakistan....but that's exactly what this issue is....a continuation of mess...created by an abhorrent military dictator and his adhoc followers....who have no ounce of shame or care for public detestation of them. Kamran you have rightly said....Time to Go...Just add this....Time to Go IN SHAME ...YOU CLOWNS..!!

  • Lallu Lal on April 3, 2008, 16:52 GMT

    ..and I always thought that BCCI was the worst!

  • EAMiran on April 3, 2008, 16:51 GMT

    Are there any cricketing related administrative posts in the troubled bowels of Waziristan? I think it would be perfect location for the good doctor and his band of merry men. A little dose of the happy-go-lucky Taleban is all that is Rx.

  • DesiHungama on April 3, 2008, 16:39 GMT

    I have no love lost for Shoaib Akhtar but the way his entire career has been handled by the PCB is an utter disgrace. Shoaib is a good cricketer and a bad person in general. The combination of two results in a short lived cricketing career which we are witnessing. Imran,Miandad,Aamir S,Wasim got away with it due to lack of media coverage in those days. Regardless of what Shoaib is in his personal life, HE PERFORMS ON THE FIELD. The fact is to this very day, most batsmen fear this guy running toward them with a feary look on his face and this very fierce can result in batsmen making a mistake. Shoaib needs to be part of our ODI squad. Just play him in selective series. I am not surprised at all by this move from Mr. Ashraf. This guy is a Musharraf appointee. Go Figure!

  • Assad Hasanain on April 3, 2008, 16:31 GMT

    I totally agree with you Mr Abbasi..Nasim Ashraf is one of those irritating pests, an incompetent ,pompous,good-for-nothing idiot who has no place in pakistan cricket. what the hell is this moron doing to pakistan cricket?because of his stupidity pakistan has literally no test cricket for the next two years. Now this pathetic loser has the audacity to ban the only remaining match-winner in the team.Needless to say the whole of Pakistan hates him with a passion. It is time for him to be booted out in as disgraceful a way as possible. After what he has done to this team it would be very fitting....I don't understand how this pathetic 'doctor' got the impression that he could run Pakistan cricket...

  • guy-Boston on April 3, 2008, 16:27 GMT

    PCB and its Chairman Ashraf should be sacked. Shaoib is a character but its not a crime.

  • Haroon on April 3, 2008, 16:13 GMT

    Repetitive and insulting acts towards the already damaged image of our country, the population, and the athelets has caused great grief to any Pakistani with a reasonable mind set. I really don't know what PCB and Naseem Ashraf in particular want from the Pakistani nation. I really don't understand why people from different professions are brought to lead an organization which is inclined more towards sports, ie cricket. Whatever would a doctor or engineer know about cricket? Why not let the ones who HAVE played cricket INTERNATIONALLY in the past take charge. The image of our country has been destroyed and shattered into pieces, I wouldn't be surprised if stand up comedians use our cricket procedures in their jocular activities. To me my country matters the most and the ones who hurt and offend our sentiments, feelings, and patriotism should not be at a position of authority, rather they belong to the dregs of society and should be sent back to where they came from.

  • Gugu on April 3, 2008, 16:11 GMT

    When I was a kid I used to know a butcher with the name of Ashraf. Whenever I read, hear or think of Dr. Nasim Ashrad, I recall Ashraf the butcher. While Ashraf the butcher was a very good and respectable butcher, the way Dr. Nasim Ashraf has butchered PCB and Shoaib, all I would say is, 'Dr. Ashraf, you are a useless administrator'. Even Ashraf the butcher would have run the board more professionally than you do. My dad often says, my son a person should do what he knows, you cannot do everything in life. Dr. Ashraf you better go back to USA and respectfully do your medical practice, if you have got any tooth of shame left, that is!

  • Omer Admani on April 3, 2008, 16:00 GMT

    It was time to go along awhile ago. But his mistakes need to be rectified as well. Malik doesn't deserve to be in the team, let alone be the captain. Afridi and Mohd Yousof are the key to the team (Mohd Yousof is the best players) and it is ridiculous that these guys are wanted out by the coach and the captain. You should write one blog on Malik as well.

  • Imran Zia on April 3, 2008, 15:36 GMT

    I am afraid there are no winners in this case. The biggest loser is perhaps Pakistan Cricket. It seems that Shoaib has done a criminal act. It is time for a players association in Pakistan to handle such matters on a larger scale and negociate with the board. Perhaps Rashid Latif should be the one to lead this movement and Nasim Ashraf is no Sharad Pawar as even he would have thought many times before taking such action.

  • IRFAN on April 3, 2008, 15:15 GMT

    pakistan are a joke now world wide. what a shame. i blame the board for being corrupt and haveing no care for players. nobody wants to go to or even play pakistan. just look across the border and see how succesful india are. instead of trying to match them the pakistan board self destruct. well done ashraf.

  • Muhammad Aatif Irshad on April 3, 2008, 15:05 GMT

    I agree with you Kamran...I think the cricket board and its administrators ;The Chairman in particular have failed to manage Shoaib...I think it is the managers/administrators who have failed and not the player..In a team you have people from diverse backgrounds..people with diverse traits..It is the job of the administrators that they extract maximum out of the individuals...Shoaib Akhtar is a once in a generation fast bowler.....Like every human being he has his weaknesses....It is the adminstrator's responsibility to manage him properly and ensure that issues are resolved before the make headlines allover the owrld...making a mockery of the nation's pride....Shane Warne was no differnt to Shoaib Akhter...he had issues with Buchanan...bribe scandals...sex scandals and what not...yet the aussies knew very well that they were 2 reckon with in the cricketing world majorly due to warne.....BRING BACK SHOAIB AKHTAR...MR.Naseem Ashraf your times up now...Go..Down Down Naseem Ashraf!!!!!

  • Khurram on April 3, 2008, 15:00 GMT

    Shoaib's ban was certainly uncalled for during the current circumstances in Pakistan cricket ... he should have been fined ... but not banned .... anyways, i hope that the ban is lifted and he is able to play again ...

  • ahmed on April 3, 2008, 14:59 GMT

    well i think naseem ashraf should be sacked pakistan cricket is down and its like no one want to play with us we lost good players due to ashraf and yet shoaib is another victim of his so call policy i think he should leave the job..for good.

  • Talal Khan on April 3, 2008, 14:56 GMT

    Talk about trying to rule with an iron fist.

  • kabir on April 3, 2008, 14:46 GMT

    Well, Sohaib and Ashraf both need to go for good. Pakistani crickt should be managed by ex cricket players with experience. Pakistan has the potential to be the number one team in the world. But they always find a way to mess it up. they are master of mess up. Please bring the glory back to pakistan cricket.Get rid off all trouble makers like Ashraf, & sohaib.

  • Abdul on April 3, 2008, 14:44 GMT

    Yes Mr Abassi u called it time togo DR Nashim Ashraff. The PCB management and commitee have been BRAINLESS in there thinking. However I agree with Shoiab Akthar's ban as he has been undisciplined name for Paskitan cricket. But overall to management and comitee have made some dybolical decisions in the last few years and need to get a grip

  • Imran Iqbal on April 3, 2008, 14:44 GMT

    Never heard anything like this in the past before Shoib even though there must had been dirty politics. Shoib no doubt is root of all evils in Pakistan Cricket but brainless Ashraf is making it even worse. This whole fiasco does not bother me as much as the fact the way our nation fights for people like Shoib and the way our politicians respond on these occasions, Pakistan will be a better place to live if they use only a fraction of it for their own basic rights and necessities. But they enjoy saving one corrupt and ditching other based on interests. Ditch both for the good of yourself and your country.

  • Salman Khan on April 3, 2008, 14:40 GMT

    Shoab is an annoying cricketer. Nobody can stand his attitude. He is more committed to nightclubs than cricket. Only Shoab can spend nights in clubs play for the country in the morning and then hurt himself and get out of the tour, Basically he is famous or notorious whatever you call him but mentally he is really low, especially when he hit Asif with the bat, the discussion going on at that time, comparing himself with Imran Khan and considering himself more respected than that Legendary bowler; shows his mental level. On the other hand; Ashraf cannot run the board as Musharaf ran the country. People should be allowed to express themselves. Banning him for 5 years is not the right answer. Drop him from the team whenever, when he breaks the rules. Bring him back when he shows commitment. I don’t support Ashraf’s decision. People have started sympathizing with Shoab because of this cruel decision.

  • Royy on April 3, 2008, 14:39 GMT

    Abbasi, dude, get a hold on yourself! The way you are sounding very soon you might just be splattering incoherent gibberish instead of the usual 15 lines of utter nonsense that you pop up with every now and then!

  • RAS on April 3, 2008, 14:37 GMT

    you are damn rite KAMRAN ..but time is calling since the worldcup.... PCB....it looks like bunch of jokers....they don know how to run a board..nobody wants to play pakistan, in pak or away.(except zim & bang)...nasim ashraf should have gone after the poor worldcup, but what a man he is.....1 ov ma czn also live in USA and he iz a doctor too..soo why not try him as a PCB chairman..we have now everybody..a retired soldier, politition,doctor..but not a single cricketer...please..stop all this..give PCB in hands ov some one who have played cricket or atleast some knowledge abt it...we also have a cute selection comedy team but i dont want to talk abt it now...NASEEM SAhab..we requesting you to plz plz leave our cricket board do not torchre pakistani cricket..

  • Imran on April 3, 2008, 14:30 GMT

    This is a very sad news. Nasim Ashraf's behavior is no different than any dictator. Not only he ruined Shoaib's career he continues on damagig Pakistani cricket repo all over the world. The guy needs to step down and someone else need to take this post, someone who really has a cricket background. If you don't know what I mean check his cricket career on cric info. My prayers to get Shoaib reinstated soon. God Bless Pakistani Cricket& God Bless Pakistan.

  • theossa, Pittsburgh, U.S.A. on April 3, 2008, 14:19 GMT

    Kamran, this is just getting ridiculous, like Awas pointed out, this looks like a puppet show fooling around us as audience and will just bring more embarrassment to Pakistan. Dr. Ashraf has just proved that he does not posses any leadership nor crisis management neither conventional wisdom. He got so intimidated by Shoaib’s backlash that he dug himself a big of a hole he can’t get out. On the positive note, we’ll get rid of current administration so the whole fiasco will at least yield something that we direly desire. Dr. Ashraf, as your days are numbered, New Jersey is calling you, why don’t you take Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal with you. Thanks. Guys Shoaib hitting Asif with the bat is not that big of a deal. When there are guys, there will be testosterone, tempers will flare, and there will be fights. This is common in every sport and issues like these should not be mad public. I also don’t buy the notion of no sledging in cricket, cricket is a physical sport and there is nothing gentle about it. Why cricketers have to be such wussies? What I don’t like about Shoaib is his disregard for rules and discipline. Even if he is reinstated I doubt there will be any change in his behavior. So how you’re going to deal with him? Also, he can never achieve fitness, not because he is not working hard or partying too much, which I think is a personal matter, but due to the fact that in sports athlete like him are called “Injury Prone” and they have a tendency to get injuries more often than others. It’s just the physical make up of some athletes.

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on April 3, 2008, 14:01 GMT

    Nasim Ashraf should have punished Shoaib when he deserved the punishment i.e., at that time when he hit Asif in SA, he should have got a life ban. But he let him go away with a slap on his wrist. Now, when Shoaib wasn't even on the pay-roll of the PCB i.e., after the central contracts expired, the PCB offered him less salary and that too, on a retainer basis to which he declined to sign the contract, hence he was not obliged to adhere to the laws. His speaking against PCB's injustice in public is not a crime and it is outside the jurisdiction of the PCB. To ban him for 5 years and now this farcical move to sue Shoaib for a few million dollars is ridiculous, stupid and laughable. Shoaib's 5 year ban is an illegal move, so on what grounds Nasim Ashraf going to sue him? This reminds me of a story: In a jungle, even Lion the King of the jungle was not allowed to harm anyone without providing a valid reason. One day he spots a baby lamb down the stream and goes to him and says, "I wanna eat you "the lamb replies, my lord you have to provide a valid reason to justify your act." The lion said, "I am hungry." The lamb replied 'well, we all are hungry and thats not a valid reason.' The lion thought for a moment and then he said, "I am the king of the jungle and you are dirtying my water in the stream." The lamb looked around and replied, 'no my lord, I was down the stream and you were up the stream, actually you've dirtied my water and this is not a valid reason either.' The lion was confused and thought a little more then he said: "yes this time you are right. But, last year you were up the stream and I was down the stream, do you remember?" The lamb humbly replied, "My lord, last year I wasn't even born." Anyways, Shoaib is not a lamb or, a sheep or an angel. He is a burden in the team, a rogue player, a bad fish in the pond, a bad example for the youngsters. His ban will have no effect on the team's performance in fact they will be better without him. But, the way the PCB has handled this issue, Shoaib is bound to come back to terrorize and torture everyone with his dirty politics and trivial ambitions. If Nasim Ashraf won't resign, the Pakistani people are famous to ouster their heroes by decorating them with garlands made out of old and smelly shoes.

  • Muhammad Asif on April 3, 2008, 14:00 GMT

    DNA is doing a wonderful job by bringing back cricket to limelight in Pakistan again. You can't even imagine how happy I am today, even way more than yesterday. Yes I was right it would be March9 of cricket, indpendence of cricket in Pakistan. Cheers

  • Masaood Yunus on April 3, 2008, 13:58 GMT

    Kamran, I think you are being too emotional on this issue. Shoaib should have been dealt with long ago and even though we agree that the board is incompetent, they have taken a good decision in favor of cricket in Pakistan. Nasim Ashraf wasn't a good choice anyways and so we all know he will be out sooner or later but Shoaib ... He should have been OUT long time ago.

  • qaz000 on April 3, 2008, 13:52 GMT

    dr nasim ashraf has to left .and pcb should be re organised and the authority should make bounce live tracks if they want to produce class batsmen and really quick fast bowlers.for better cricket newly elected govt should do it.

  • No featured comments at the moment.

  • qaz000 on April 3, 2008, 13:52 GMT

    dr nasim ashraf has to left .and pcb should be re organised and the authority should make bounce live tracks if they want to produce class batsmen and really quick fast bowlers.for better cricket newly elected govt should do it.

  • Masaood Yunus on April 3, 2008, 13:58 GMT

    Kamran, I think you are being too emotional on this issue. Shoaib should have been dealt with long ago and even though we agree that the board is incompetent, they have taken a good decision in favor of cricket in Pakistan. Nasim Ashraf wasn't a good choice anyways and so we all know he will be out sooner or later but Shoaib ... He should have been OUT long time ago.

  • Muhammad Asif on April 3, 2008, 14:00 GMT

    DNA is doing a wonderful job by bringing back cricket to limelight in Pakistan again. You can't even imagine how happy I am today, even way more than yesterday. Yes I was right it would be March9 of cricket, indpendence of cricket in Pakistan. Cheers

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on April 3, 2008, 14:01 GMT

    Nasim Ashraf should have punished Shoaib when he deserved the punishment i.e., at that time when he hit Asif in SA, he should have got a life ban. But he let him go away with a slap on his wrist. Now, when Shoaib wasn't even on the pay-roll of the PCB i.e., after the central contracts expired, the PCB offered him less salary and that too, on a retainer basis to which he declined to sign the contract, hence he was not obliged to adhere to the laws. His speaking against PCB's injustice in public is not a crime and it is outside the jurisdiction of the PCB. To ban him for 5 years and now this farcical move to sue Shoaib for a few million dollars is ridiculous, stupid and laughable. Shoaib's 5 year ban is an illegal move, so on what grounds Nasim Ashraf going to sue him? This reminds me of a story: In a jungle, even Lion the King of the jungle was not allowed to harm anyone without providing a valid reason. One day he spots a baby lamb down the stream and goes to him and says, "I wanna eat you "the lamb replies, my lord you have to provide a valid reason to justify your act." The lion said, "I am hungry." The lamb replied 'well, we all are hungry and thats not a valid reason.' The lion thought for a moment and then he said, "I am the king of the jungle and you are dirtying my water in the stream." The lamb looked around and replied, 'no my lord, I was down the stream and you were up the stream, actually you've dirtied my water and this is not a valid reason either.' The lion was confused and thought a little more then he said: "yes this time you are right. But, last year you were up the stream and I was down the stream, do you remember?" The lamb humbly replied, "My lord, last year I wasn't even born." Anyways, Shoaib is not a lamb or, a sheep or an angel. He is a burden in the team, a rogue player, a bad fish in the pond, a bad example for the youngsters. His ban will have no effect on the team's performance in fact they will be better without him. But, the way the PCB has handled this issue, Shoaib is bound to come back to terrorize and torture everyone with his dirty politics and trivial ambitions. If Nasim Ashraf won't resign, the Pakistani people are famous to ouster their heroes by decorating them with garlands made out of old and smelly shoes.

  • theossa, Pittsburgh, U.S.A. on April 3, 2008, 14:19 GMT

    Kamran, this is just getting ridiculous, like Awas pointed out, this looks like a puppet show fooling around us as audience and will just bring more embarrassment to Pakistan. Dr. Ashraf has just proved that he does not posses any leadership nor crisis management neither conventional wisdom. He got so intimidated by Shoaib’s backlash that he dug himself a big of a hole he can’t get out. On the positive note, we’ll get rid of current administration so the whole fiasco will at least yield something that we direly desire. Dr. Ashraf, as your days are numbered, New Jersey is calling you, why don’t you take Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal with you. Thanks. Guys Shoaib hitting Asif with the bat is not that big of a deal. When there are guys, there will be testosterone, tempers will flare, and there will be fights. This is common in every sport and issues like these should not be mad public. I also don’t buy the notion of no sledging in cricket, cricket is a physical sport and there is nothing gentle about it. Why cricketers have to be such wussies? What I don’t like about Shoaib is his disregard for rules and discipline. Even if he is reinstated I doubt there will be any change in his behavior. So how you’re going to deal with him? Also, he can never achieve fitness, not because he is not working hard or partying too much, which I think is a personal matter, but due to the fact that in sports athlete like him are called “Injury Prone” and they have a tendency to get injuries more often than others. It’s just the physical make up of some athletes.

  • Imran on April 3, 2008, 14:30 GMT

    This is a very sad news. Nasim Ashraf's behavior is no different than any dictator. Not only he ruined Shoaib's career he continues on damagig Pakistani cricket repo all over the world. The guy needs to step down and someone else need to take this post, someone who really has a cricket background. If you don't know what I mean check his cricket career on cric info. My prayers to get Shoaib reinstated soon. God Bless Pakistani Cricket& God Bless Pakistan.

  • RAS on April 3, 2008, 14:37 GMT

    you are damn rite KAMRAN ..but time is calling since the worldcup.... PCB....it looks like bunch of jokers....they don know how to run a board..nobody wants to play pakistan, in pak or away.(except zim & bang)...nasim ashraf should have gone after the poor worldcup, but what a man he is.....1 ov ma czn also live in USA and he iz a doctor too..soo why not try him as a PCB chairman..we have now everybody..a retired soldier, politition,doctor..but not a single cricketer...please..stop all this..give PCB in hands ov some one who have played cricket or atleast some knowledge abt it...we also have a cute selection comedy team but i dont want to talk abt it now...NASEEM SAhab..we requesting you to plz plz leave our cricket board do not torchre pakistani cricket..

  • Royy on April 3, 2008, 14:39 GMT

    Abbasi, dude, get a hold on yourself! The way you are sounding very soon you might just be splattering incoherent gibberish instead of the usual 15 lines of utter nonsense that you pop up with every now and then!

  • Salman Khan on April 3, 2008, 14:40 GMT

    Shoab is an annoying cricketer. Nobody can stand his attitude. He is more committed to nightclubs than cricket. Only Shoab can spend nights in clubs play for the country in the morning and then hurt himself and get out of the tour, Basically he is famous or notorious whatever you call him but mentally he is really low, especially when he hit Asif with the bat, the discussion going on at that time, comparing himself with Imran Khan and considering himself more respected than that Legendary bowler; shows his mental level. On the other hand; Ashraf cannot run the board as Musharaf ran the country. People should be allowed to express themselves. Banning him for 5 years is not the right answer. Drop him from the team whenever, when he breaks the rules. Bring him back when he shows commitment. I don’t support Ashraf’s decision. People have started sympathizing with Shoab because of this cruel decision.

  • Imran Iqbal on April 3, 2008, 14:44 GMT

    Never heard anything like this in the past before Shoib even though there must had been dirty politics. Shoib no doubt is root of all evils in Pakistan Cricket but brainless Ashraf is making it even worse. This whole fiasco does not bother me as much as the fact the way our nation fights for people like Shoib and the way our politicians respond on these occasions, Pakistan will be a better place to live if they use only a fraction of it for their own basic rights and necessities. But they enjoy saving one corrupt and ditching other based on interests. Ditch both for the good of yourself and your country.