The drugged cricketer July 14, 2008

Asif's tragedy is an indictment of Pakistan cricket

It is something of a fantasy to expect the Pakistan Cricket Board to be ranked with the world’s leading national sporting bodies
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It is something of a fantasy to expect the Pakistan Cricket Board to be ranked with the world’s leading national sporting bodies. But it is entirely reasonable to expect competence.

The reign of Dr Nasim Ashraf has been filled with grand intentions and destroyed by grand misjudgements. The recent farce of leaked emails and bugged phone conversations is symptomatic of an organisation crippled by a critical breakdown in relationships between senior management.

All this unwelcome controversy, however, fails to distract from the PCB’s greatest mistake under Dr Ashraf, which is its mishandling of the drugs problem. The issue of drugs in sport cuts to the heart of sporting professionalism and administrative excellence. It is a marker of integrity and an examination of the robustness of a cricket system.

While Mohammad Asif was rotting in Dubai custody, a routine urine sample taken in India was fermenting an overpowering stench. The decision makers in Pakistan cricket must ask themselves how a young cricketer—a bright star—could be allowed to transgress so soon after another scandal almost ended his career?

Asif must share a hefty burden of responsibility. There was a time when the mere thought of representing your country filled cricketers with such pride that they would not risk damaging their careers. Now it seems that these young stars achieve too much fame too soon. Cricket is played in the head but that is also where careers are broken. Only the strongest and most focused minds can expect longevity.

Ignorance, as Asif will discover, is no mitigation for a crime. Last year’s narrow escape should have taught him to avoid all suspect substances. The only conclusion is that either Asif is incredibly stupid or his international career does not matter to him sufficiently.

Nor has the PCB done Asif any favours. By treating him as a special case, a misled innocent, and focusing its anger on Shoaib Akhtar, the PCB has led Asif to believe that he is blessed and will always be shown leniency.

While Asif and Shoaib have brought damnation upon themselves, the PCB has passively and actively indulged their irresponsibility.

Primarily, a cricket board’s duty is to ensure its cricketers play by the spirit of the game. Cheating and rule breaking of any kind must be actively discouraged. Players who lack education have to be closely supervised, and loose cannons require clear direction instead of freedom—a problem child like Shoaib, for example, was allowed to follow his own training regimes.

Once the drug scandal broke it became clear that the cricket board’s education of its cricketers was insufficient. Its adherence to international standards was haphazard. And its handling of the crisis followed a process that was laughable at best and devious at worst.

The cricket board’s desire to clear its players by any means was a most cynical exercise in double standards. Indeed, attempts to enforce discipline have been undermined by the PCB’s own failure to apply discipline in a consistent manner.

Unfortunately, such shameless conspiracies and amateurism have become the hallmark of Pakistan cricket. Other boards are stricter with discipline. Andrew Flintoff was stripped of the England vice-captaincy after a drunken midnight jaunt on a pedalo in the West Indies. Shane Warne missed the 2003 World Cup after taking his “slimming pill.” Ian Botham was banned for three months after admitting in a newspaper article that he smoked marijuana.

The point of these bans was as much to demonstrate that top international sport requires discipline and international cricketers, especially star players, have a responsibility to set the right example to youngsters.

Meanwhile, the Pakistani way has become one of creating poor processes and regulations, applying them inconsistently, and bending the rules whenever the opportunity arises to indulge public and personal sentiment.

Instead of becoming valuable role models for the next generation of Pakistan fast bowlers, Shoaib and Asif have abused their positions and brought disgrace upon their country. They have diminished their talents and their places in history.

But should we damn them outright? No. Their extravagances and their errors have been facilitated by the PCB, which has failed to manage stars so that they maximise achievements and eliminate weaknesses.

Were Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, and Waqar Younis models of perfection? I guess perfection is not in the nature of fast bowlers. But their imperfections were managed in such a way that Pakistan cricket was able to flourish. The current dynamic of players and administrators is an imperfect storm ripping apart the soul of Pakistan cricket.

Mohammad Asif, a player who held the future of Pakistan cricket in his hands, has just become flotsam. It is almost beyond belief that his international career could have ended before Shoaib Akhtar's.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • rauf sheikh on August 20, 2008, 16:20 GMT

    mohd asif second test came positive mohd asif should go to drug rehabilation centre to fight agianst it and come clean to play for pakistan he is the future of pakistan bowling line and if the player like him is doing such kind of thing is shameful thing

  • rashi on August 19, 2008, 18:02 GMT

    i feel Md Sami is a marvellous talent and shouldn't be wasted in ICL. PCB should try to settle the controversy between PCB and players joining ICL. After all it is India's internal issue. It is not necessary for Pak to ban the players only because India is doing so

  • Saad on August 3, 2008, 18:20 GMT

    I felt that Muhammad Asif is Able to play in ICC trophy . PCB wants to give a chance to play in ICC .

  • Owais on July 24, 2008, 7:59 GMT

    Kamran, I dont any point in bashing PCB over this. Any reasonable person who might have been involved in a high profile drug abuse case more than a year back would have and should have stayed 1000 miles away from any drugs, hakimi nuskhas, nandrolanes etc etc. Asif is responsible for this and he should be disciplined. Atleast 5 year ban should be served upon him.

  • Mikso Mocha on July 23, 2008, 6:43 GMT

    On Thursday the Champions tropy will likely be moved to SL for secuity of players and teams involved. The ICC security consultant says 50/50 chance only Pakistan will host trophy. Hope it is moved. Will be wise decsion for world cricket as a Munich 72 like incident in cricket is highly undesirable after the doping scandal of Asif and Shoaib.

  • irfan on July 21, 2008, 14:11 GMT

    I am sure WADA has already made the distinction b/w performance enhancing and recreational drugs. It would be a waste of time of every body’s if Asif gets dinged just using cannabis or hash as he was believed to have in possession at Dubai airport. Unless one or both are classified as performance enhancers there is no point in going on at this.

    His injury, just for the sake of argument is another concern. But, that’s where the sports administration should have maintained a handle on the situation by knowing what medicines is being used or prescribed or even having to force him to use a doctor of boards choosing. Had he failed to follow the instructions then he would be guilty as hell. In my personal opinion the guy has enjoyed a free ride before and it is time to make an example out of him. Period!

  • Arshad Jamal on July 20, 2008, 4:00 GMT

    Kamran, do you have a clue what is the meaning of the following post:

    Posted by: Imran Ahmed at July 16, 2008 5:05 AM

    My brother Joseph Pereira a Pakistan fan if there ever was one might have had some strong words to say about this latest incident.

    Sadly he passed away in Canada a few hours ago and I'll never get to know his opinion.

  • Prasad Tate on July 17, 2008, 16:38 GMT

    India and Pakistan in Cricket, be it the respective cricket boards or the players, are friends. Even the India media admires Pakistani players. To suggest that this is a conspiracy by Indian public is naive and stupid.

  • Nancy on July 17, 2008, 16:30 GMT

    It is not as grave as some of you have made it sound. After all Ian Botham has been given the Sir Title, way long after his known drinking problems and Mary Jane love.

  • Dexter on July 17, 2008, 15:29 GMT

    First thing required to make public are all facts. Just saying found guilty is not enough. IPL should mention exactly what they found. There are multiple types of drugs & if it was recreational type than it should be treated differently as it has nothing to do with performance enhancement.

    Also there should be a mention for the reason to this announcement. If IPL was concerned over performance enhancement or fairness then this should have been made announced before the tournament not so late after RR has already lifted the cup.

    This seems rather a lame effort from IPL to distant themselves from the controversy that was bound to happen after Asif‘s detention- prompting everyone to think how Asif was able to fly directly from India to Dubai with the banned substance. This is also yet to be seen why he was tested negative in Dubai while his test shows positive result in India. The real drug name has to be announced in all fairness and so the reasons for news delay.

  • rauf sheikh on August 20, 2008, 16:20 GMT

    mohd asif second test came positive mohd asif should go to drug rehabilation centre to fight agianst it and come clean to play for pakistan he is the future of pakistan bowling line and if the player like him is doing such kind of thing is shameful thing

  • rashi on August 19, 2008, 18:02 GMT

    i feel Md Sami is a marvellous talent and shouldn't be wasted in ICL. PCB should try to settle the controversy between PCB and players joining ICL. After all it is India's internal issue. It is not necessary for Pak to ban the players only because India is doing so

  • Saad on August 3, 2008, 18:20 GMT

    I felt that Muhammad Asif is Able to play in ICC trophy . PCB wants to give a chance to play in ICC .

  • Owais on July 24, 2008, 7:59 GMT

    Kamran, I dont any point in bashing PCB over this. Any reasonable person who might have been involved in a high profile drug abuse case more than a year back would have and should have stayed 1000 miles away from any drugs, hakimi nuskhas, nandrolanes etc etc. Asif is responsible for this and he should be disciplined. Atleast 5 year ban should be served upon him.

  • Mikso Mocha on July 23, 2008, 6:43 GMT

    On Thursday the Champions tropy will likely be moved to SL for secuity of players and teams involved. The ICC security consultant says 50/50 chance only Pakistan will host trophy. Hope it is moved. Will be wise decsion for world cricket as a Munich 72 like incident in cricket is highly undesirable after the doping scandal of Asif and Shoaib.

  • irfan on July 21, 2008, 14:11 GMT

    I am sure WADA has already made the distinction b/w performance enhancing and recreational drugs. It would be a waste of time of every body’s if Asif gets dinged just using cannabis or hash as he was believed to have in possession at Dubai airport. Unless one or both are classified as performance enhancers there is no point in going on at this.

    His injury, just for the sake of argument is another concern. But, that’s where the sports administration should have maintained a handle on the situation by knowing what medicines is being used or prescribed or even having to force him to use a doctor of boards choosing. Had he failed to follow the instructions then he would be guilty as hell. In my personal opinion the guy has enjoyed a free ride before and it is time to make an example out of him. Period!

  • Arshad Jamal on July 20, 2008, 4:00 GMT

    Kamran, do you have a clue what is the meaning of the following post:

    Posted by: Imran Ahmed at July 16, 2008 5:05 AM

    My brother Joseph Pereira a Pakistan fan if there ever was one might have had some strong words to say about this latest incident.

    Sadly he passed away in Canada a few hours ago and I'll never get to know his opinion.

  • Prasad Tate on July 17, 2008, 16:38 GMT

    India and Pakistan in Cricket, be it the respective cricket boards or the players, are friends. Even the India media admires Pakistani players. To suggest that this is a conspiracy by Indian public is naive and stupid.

  • Nancy on July 17, 2008, 16:30 GMT

    It is not as grave as some of you have made it sound. After all Ian Botham has been given the Sir Title, way long after his known drinking problems and Mary Jane love.

  • Dexter on July 17, 2008, 15:29 GMT

    First thing required to make public are all facts. Just saying found guilty is not enough. IPL should mention exactly what they found. There are multiple types of drugs & if it was recreational type than it should be treated differently as it has nothing to do with performance enhancement.

    Also there should be a mention for the reason to this announcement. If IPL was concerned over performance enhancement or fairness then this should have been made announced before the tournament not so late after RR has already lifted the cup.

    This seems rather a lame effort from IPL to distant themselves from the controversy that was bound to happen after Asif‘s detention- prompting everyone to think how Asif was able to fly directly from India to Dubai with the banned substance. This is also yet to be seen why he was tested negative in Dubai while his test shows positive result in India. The real drug name has to be announced in all fairness and so the reasons for news delay.

  • Farhan on July 17, 2008, 13:57 GMT

    I'll risk incurring the wrath of the people posting here by defending Asif. Here is the record:

    1.Nandrolone: taken under Shoaib's bad influence and because he was not councelled by anyone on whether it is illegal or not. He himself checked with Bob Woolmer who then told him to stop using it. Let off, and rightfully so, because it was not his fault. Everyone here agrees with this.

    2. Dubai: possession of Hashish. Hashish does not enhance performance. Hashish is just weed. Sporting bodies should not have any say in a person's choice of recreation drug. Hence that offence has no business in a sports related debate. Its between Dubai anti-narcotics and Asif.

    3. IPL: As yet the illegal substance has not been identified. If it is nandrolone, then he should be banned. If its weed, then everyone should butt out. You dont ban people for drinking alcohol, then why would you for smoking weed? That smacks of cultural imperialism. However, I repeat, if its Nandrolone: Ban him for good!

  • Ali Sani on July 17, 2008, 8:22 GMT

    Like most of you im finding this latest controversy involving asif very hard to swallow. He is such an immense talent and the only torch bearer of pakistan's pace legacy . I'd hate to see his future be ruined, which is why im opting to withold judgement till it is verified that asif took the drugs with his full knowledge. I mean everything said so far can only be considered speculation so is it much of stretch to say that maybe he is being manipulated?

    Some might dismiss this as crazy talk but i for one beleive he is innocent till proven guilty. If im wrong than ill gladly eat humble pie and support punishment.

  • LGB on July 17, 2008, 8:20 GMT

    A disgrace to Pakistan. He taints the whole team.

  • Asim Husain Khan on July 17, 2008, 7:12 GMT

    I dont know y everyone is blaming PCB for this. Players who play for Pakistan are no kids. They are not spoon feeding. If a player gets involved in such activities and is determine to ruin his career how can anyone stop him. I think if PCB has to be blamed for anything it should be for its leniency towards the players. If they have to take a strict decision against a player they should stick with it, rather then scummbing under pressure and reverting. How many times we have seen Shoaib and Asif suspended and then getting away with it with hands clean. These sort of things should never be allowed to happen

  • Mohammad on July 17, 2008, 6:29 GMT

    I personally think that this is the best way PCB can earn money. They suspend players then allow them to appeal. It does not allow them to play but also spend huge amount of money in order to fight the case? Where is the situation of Pakistani cricket going?

  • ISHTIAQUE on July 17, 2008, 5:10 GMT

    I would rather request Mr. Abbasi to write about pakistan's positive contribution to world cricket.

    1.third country umpire: Mr. Noor Khan and Imran Khan proposed that idea. Even PCB used two sets of Indian and English officials in 1986 and 1989.

    2. Reverse Swing: Currenly the most leathal weapon for a fast bowler, was developed by Sarfaraz and polished and moulded by Wasim and Waqar. An art of cheaters (ENGLISHMEN SAID) now used by every fast bowler.

    3. Doosra: Every finger spinner love to bowl a doosra, developed by Saqlain.

    Sometimes Pakistani fans can forget about match fixing, drugs, terrorism and think about Pakistan's contribution to world cricket. They dont have a Tendulkar or Sir Don or tremendous team like Australia have, but they can say that we give something to global cricket.

  • Oridnary fan on July 17, 2008, 4:19 GMT

    I fully agree with the comments of author. I also would like to point out that the first time when he was caught, the tests were conducted in Pakistan, not in India as against one the comments posted above. Sure he was in India at that time for Champions trophy, but was called back by PCB as their internal tests before departure came out at that time. They did a good thing by calling Asif and Shoaib back that time, but they let them go without any further punishment.

  • EAMiran on July 17, 2008, 2:28 GMT

    Before labelling Asif a drug cheat, shouldn’t we wait to hear what substances were found in the urine sample? If it happens to be a recreational drug, such as purportedly found on his person at Dubai airport then he is not a drug cheat. The logic posted by many that that all athletes using mind altering drugs are somehow cheats and should be banned, should also include those who smoke tobacco and drink alcohol. Both these substances, although legal, are mind altering and known to be dangerous. If such a ban was enforced I suggest that forming an Int’l XI might become impossible. If on the other hand it is found to be a steroid than one may call him whatever one wishes. Personally I believe steroids should be legalized as they allow athletes to recover from injuries, thereby prolonging their otherwise short careers. Either way, this does not take away from the fact that Asif’s judgement, at best, has been extremely poor. And that,I am afraid,is putting it rather mildly.

  • Muzher Sharif on July 17, 2008, 1:19 GMT

    "The only conclusion is that either Asif is incredibly stupid or his international career does not matter to him sufficiently."

    QFT.

  • Usman on July 17, 2008, 0:56 GMT

    Well, Asif is tested positive and he should banned, no question about it, @Mvent My Dear, Dont make ashamed to us, Please grow up , there are lot to do for those agencies rather then just Asif, I am really disgusted being a Pakistani about the events of last 18 months or so, i am loosing my interest in our national teams.

  • jaspreet on July 16, 2008, 21:47 GMT

    well here is my take

    1) he is not guilty yet. Patience my friends

    2) Asif is responsible for Asif. What a concept

    3) i haven't followed details (yet I can comment with complete authority ;))- is this recreational drugs or performance enhancing. If performance enhancing then he a ban is needed. If recreational, others might disagree but to me it shouldn't be illegal anyway.

    4) lets not all be too quick to judge ...little compassion. Doesn't mean he shouldn't be banned though.

    5) lastly, it's a beautiful day out here !

  • A.Ahmad on July 16, 2008, 20:59 GMT

    Its such a shame really. Asif was the only consistent swing bowler for Pakistan and its such a waste when there is talent without brains. I am ashamed he is a Pakistani, as I am ashamed of Shoaib, but isn't it that way now for the whole of the country? there is so much corruption, how could a sport be clean when there is not other profession loyal to Pakistan and its people?

  • Wasim Ahmed on July 16, 2008, 20:56 GMT

    Hahahah, again he is? PCB should do something even Pakistan President should rethink and appoint to a expert as PCB Cheif rather his favorite person to give this job. Yes I think Asif should be life ban if he find guilty in B sample. I don't know why he is so proudy and doing things like this, It is his early career and he is behalf like it. I am sure, he can't win even a match in Pakistan against better side on peace he has... he should be life ban bettering Pakistan image and cricket as well.

  • Mohamed Rahaman on July 16, 2008, 20:50 GMT

    Let's not blame anyone else, especially India. PCB and Asif must share blame. PCB is made up of egotistical fools and Asif is a moron.

    The PCB is a reflection of the broader Pakistani middle and upper class society.. made up of educated egomaniac fools.

    PCB, I am sorry to say is an embarassment. Soon some of those former stars would find reason to fire the coach and hire another former Pak star to coach, until the next one is hired and fired. Pakistan has loads of talent, no question. But their problem as always , is somebody's ego gets in the way and they never play back to back matches as a unified team.

  • noor on July 16, 2008, 20:28 GMT

    Mr. Mastoor, I beg to disagree with your comments. What has language got to do with indulging in drugs? Taking drugs in any language is a no no. The first time Asif was caught taking drugs it was put down to his ignornance, the second time was due careless, the third time stupidity and foolishness beyond belief.

    I am sure he knows and he is being told by his friends and relatives the serious consequence of drugs in his line of trade, than why take such a big risk with a career that can make him a very rich young man. I dont get it, to me this is self distruction. Such a shame, what a waste of talent. I hope and pray Mr. Asif learns his lessons and respects his career and refrain from drugs and alcohol in the future.

  • noor on July 16, 2008, 20:28 GMT

    Mr. Mastoor, I beg to disagree with your comments. What has language got to do with indulging in drugs? Taking drugs in any language is a no no. The first time Asif was caught taking drugs it was put down to his ignorance, the second time was due careless, the third time stupidity and foolishness beyond belief.

    I am sure he knows and he is being told by his friends and relatives the serious consequence of drugs in his line of trade, than why take such a big risk with a career that can make him a very rich young man. I don't get it, to me this is self destruction. Such a shame, what a waste of talent. I hope and pray Mr. Asif learns his lessons and respects his career and refrain from drugs and alcohol in the future.

  • KG on July 16, 2008, 17:41 GMT

    What drug are we talking about here? Some commnets suggest that it was marijuana or cannabis or something like that. If thats for real then perhaps WADA should change rules regarding punsihmnet for mood enhancing drugs vs. performance enhancing. Life ban for smoking dope, thats rubbish. Who decides that while liquor might be alright, marijuana should elicit such a harsh response as life ban.. Of course if it was a performance enhancing drug then its a different story becasue that would be cheating in true sense.

  • sidd on July 16, 2008, 17:19 GMT

    These arguments are getting repetitive. The bottom line is that Asif needs some help. He clearly has a drug problem which needs to be addressed through rehab. He has no one else to blame but him. Not having a firm grasp on english doesn't justify him taking performance enhancing drugs repeatedly and then blaming it on his lack of knowledge. I mean we are living in the 21st Century, there are plenty of pharmacicts and physicans that are available to advise him on this subject. Also, Asif has been a professional cricketer for last 5-6 years so he should know how to represent his country honorably.

    Also, there are no conspiracies here, even if there were, why has he been the only cricketer to be targeted from all the powerfull cricketing nations. Let's get real here, he is a good player but not a great one.

  • Awas legslip.com on July 16, 2008, 17:02 GMT

    Yep, he must be utterly stupid. If you do it once, you do not keep doing it again and again.

    Usually, for most people it’s a case of once bitten twice shy. Having had a lucky escape last time, there is no one else to blame except Asif himself.

    I like the Board’s stance that they are not going to help him and he is being left to fight for himself this time. I don’t understand why so many ex-cricketers are blaming PCB for it? They must have ulterior motives and manoeuvring for their own positions.

  • Sriram on July 16, 2008, 15:28 GMT

    As Mr. Omar Ehtesham pointed out, perhaps those in charge of IPL did jump the gun by revealing Asif's name before testing his sample B. But then again, any claims that these were done to tarnish Pakistan's reputation could be negated by the fact that the same BCCI ruthlessly cracked down on Hansie Cronje, Ajay Jadeja & Mohammad Azharuddin, when it came to match fixing.

    The point being, no individual is greater than the game, history is full of examples. And if the gifted Asif couldnt learn from his own past mistake (leave alone history) it's time the point was put across by way of a ban. Having been witness to Pakistan's pace potential over the years, I'm sure there's plenty of talent waiting in the wings. The game will go on.

  • Sriram on July 16, 2008, 15:17 GMT

    Desi Hungama - Though i know precious few, none of the people i know look down on Pakistan or anyone else, for that matter. Like i said earlier, Pakistan vs India is just general perception and it doesnt have anything to do with individuals who take propaganda with a pinch of salt, whose numbers on either side of the border is increasing by the day, I'm sure.

    Mr. Omar Ehtesham - I know there exists a rivalry but do tell me what a common man of India / Pakistan could possibly have against the other, someone he knows nothing about and in all probability he's never going to meet? It's a pity that this common man is the very one most swayed by propaganda by those with vested interests. For more information on just how much impact misleading media could have on the common man, I'll give you the example of The Gulf of Tonkin incident, which led to the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam war. It was later established that this supposed "incident" never happened.

  • Shahrukh Qureshi on July 16, 2008, 15:16 GMT

    I don't understand one thing and that is why Asif was allowed to play in IPL if was found drugged?? if that was the case then he should't be allowed to participate in the most earning event in cricketing history as far as rewards are concern. I would say a great talent is just wasted by PCB allowing him play in IPL with uncured arm injury and not keeping an eye on the medicine which were given to him for course of his treatment. It is the effort of all members of PCB to end up Asif's career in this way.

  • Ketan H Mayecha on July 16, 2008, 15:05 GMT

    The type of backing asif and shoaib gets from the Board clearly exposes that its reserve cupboard is empty. And they only have themselves to blame since thay have not been able to reproduce the akrams or imrans of yesteryear in spite of all technology and money available. If the board is pea-brained - the players they groom would also be ditto. But in spite of all this there is a silver lining - things couldn't get worse so all pakistani fans have something to cheer about :-))

  • Mastoor on July 16, 2008, 14:54 GMT

    Dr Abbasi's cold, clinical dissection of the Asif drugs scandal has set in motion an avalanche of moral indignation, notable for an absence of human sympathy and a preponderance of name calling (stupid, ignorant, illiterate, etc).

    My understanding is that Asif has had an adequate education in the national language of Pakistan, Urdu. Does he become ignorant and illiterate for not knowing a foreign language (English) that a corrupt civil service has imposed on the people of Pakistan? That is the tragedy of Pakistan. It has a national language which is understood throughout the country but most Pakistani institutions are headed by people who have been brainwashed into conducting their affairs in English, a language with which most people feel ill at ease. It is unrealistic to expect a talented cricketer to be a linguist as well and to master a foreign language for which he has no aptitude. To develop and hone his skills as a cricketer, and to bring him up to speed on things he needs to know as a responsible sportsman representing his country at the international level, he needs effective training and guidance in written and oral forms. That can only be provided in his own language.

    The PCB has erected a wall between itself and the sportsmen who have had the misfortune to be entrusted to its care. It issues statements in English, leaks its e-mails in English and appoints a foreign coach who tells upstart Pakistanis how bad their English is! Perhaps it is time to pack him off to the Australian outback and appoint a more approachable individual who can establish warm and friendly relations with Pakistan's cricketers? The good doctor heading the PCB, and his cronies, come across as weak individuals weighed down by an oppressive feeling of inferiority.

  • imran bora on July 16, 2008, 14:00 GMT

    Champions Trophy 2008 mohammed yusuf not playing because ramzan anyway that good to hear because even in asia cup he dint make good score and didnt not perform well team like bangladesh he just made 28 runs which is useless to select him

  • Rajesh on July 16, 2008, 14:00 GMT

    It is hard to understand how a talented player can spoil himself like that . Actually these sort of players are not able to carry the stardom which comes with it. They should look at players like Tendulkar and try to be absorb the stardom with grace.

  • Simon on July 16, 2008, 13:54 GMT

    As a cricket lover it is such a shame that a bowler of his quality could be lost to the game. Why wasn't the management far stronger, earlier?

  • moon on July 16, 2008, 13:10 GMT

    It is silly to blame PCB for ones actions. Why PCB has to contantly baby sit someone? IF I were to do something illegal and get caught for it, I will be fired. My employer did not ask me to do it. I am a grown man. If I don't have sense of right or wrong. PCB can't do anything about it. Recently Imran Nazir (a recent paki player)was here in wash DC area and played few games for a local club. I saw him smoking marjuina on the field drewling over couple of girls who were there with him. now tell me what pcb can do even if he was a contract player? infect it was utterly emarrassing to see him as I have been a fan of him in the past. Biggest problem with Paki nation is we are quick to blame others, It's US fault no no it's India fault. come on mate let the comon sense prevail.

    FAN IN DC

  • Daniyal on July 16, 2008, 11:14 GMT

    Ban him for life and let him go back to sweeping floors if he indeed is found to have tested positive after the B sample results come in.

    Former cricketers: grow up, take some responsibility and stop blaming the board for what they failed to do it is you who have set the example for players of today and it is you who are to blame for their shenanigans.

  • skeptical on July 16, 2008, 10:55 GMT

    I am little surprised on the discussion on the "indian element". Asif got much more respect in India than he does in Pakistan. Sohail Tanvir was also a very popular player. Ask them if they want to come back next year!... secondly, Asif did get caught with the drugs in Dubai Airport. Unlike what another reader said, it is NOT true that 95% are indians, infact they are local UAE/ Arab policemen who handle these cases. face it please, he did drug himself, period. If India had its way, he would be playing the next IPL rather than con him (why would they, when he is such a valuable player, bound to fetch a high sum)

  • suvo on July 16, 2008, 10:55 GMT

    I would like to comment on the comment made by one Mr. mvent. His line of thought is similar to us Indian blaming every terrorist attack in our country to Pakistan. Wake up! Be an Man! fight for improvement in Pak cricket. Those who stay in glass houses donot throw stones at others.

  • Mohammad Amjad on July 16, 2008, 10:52 GMT

    Isnt it strange that before a big event like the Champions trophy, the World cup or the Asia cup the top bowler of Pakistan get involved in a drug scandal???? All the time they didnt take drugs and before a big event they should take?? In my opionion someone mixed something in their meal or drinks and they didnt know.

  • HR on July 16, 2008, 10:50 GMT

    YES its heart breaking to see Asif getting himself into all these doping troubles, its more annoying that an International sportsman can be that stupid. I know a lot of people are pointing a finger towards some Indian connection, even if there is one, yet its Asif who needed to be on his guard to protect himself. A lot of people believe Asif did not take any drugs during IPL, and it was some 'external' element which trapped him, we dont know, still it was Asif who needed to be over cautious. No point even disciussing PCB, 'Inept' is too a small word to describe PCB. It must be noted that in past, the International career of those found guilty of doping, did not end so easily, and so must'nt Asif's.

  • Faridoon on July 16, 2008, 10:45 GMT

    Many here have said that it is up to the individual and you can't blame the PCB.

    Yes, we all know PCB has rules agaisnt drug use etc. and it is up to the player to follow them because the PCB cannot control everything that a player eats or drinks (or smokes!).

    The reason why PCB may be responsible is that they have let a player go on to commit a third offense. If they hadn't been lenient and if they truly had a zero-tolerance policy towards drugs as Naghmi recently claimed in the media, then both Asif and Akhtar should not have been allowed to come back and play after that first offense. They PCB are responsible for spoiling there superstars and inflating their egos.

  • muzak on July 16, 2008, 10:21 GMT

    i think it is really harsh to point on other countries, that they are responsible for our mistakes, this is the reason we are behind india we dont recognise our mistakes and always blame others for that, i think india doesnt have much to do with the bloody mistakes of asif he desrves to be where he is now

  • Amjad Ali on July 16, 2008, 10:20 GMT

    ahh C'mon for heaven sake everyone..he's not found guilty yet..let the court decide what they think is rite and we better comment on the poor guy after words..

    i mean c'mon.everyone know that the kid is innocent and he cant do such a thing again and why would he do it again knowing that he has been rested for his act??? dont u guys think he is an innocent man???

    may Allah help him...ameeen...

  • wahab usman on July 16, 2008, 9:13 GMT

    i think cricket board should organize comprehensive training programs about doping for U-19 and academy players before they come to the international scene. most players don't have enough knowledge about what medicine to take and what to not. as for as asif is concern, its a great loss for Pakistan cricket if he would not play for a year or two. what a talent he has but he is wasting himself.

  • RA on July 16, 2008, 9:10 GMT

    The author leaves no opportunity to criticize Naseem Ashraf as if he has something personal against him.

    For me and almost everyone I know, this is purely down to the individual i.e. Muhammad Asif.

    It is not the responsibility of PCB to look after what the players are eating, how they are socialising etc, basically it is wrong to expect from PCB to act like their mother!

  • imran on July 16, 2008, 9:07 GMT

    i think pcb have done nice job by suspending mohammed asif but he should be ban for life

  • Arjuna Sene on July 16, 2008, 8:51 GMT

    As a Sri Lankan fan of cricket who, over the years, has watched and marveled at the sheer brilliance of many Pakistani cricketers, I am horrified by what is happening now. Yes, asif (and Shoaib) have to only blame themselves for committing hara-kiri but the PCB is squarely to blame for allowing them the leeway to do so. The fact that the board is compromised in all of this should be a damning indictment of their incompetence. Each time I hear of a fresh scandal from Pakistan, it sends a pang though me because this great cricketing nation is far far better than their board has managed to give us in the cricketing world. This much potential for brilliance should never be in the hands of this much incompetence. Come on friends, we all know how much cricketing greatness there is in your country. Get a proper system that is honest and works for the best interests of cricket in Pakistan. Knowing your greatness, we, like you, are getting very very impatient.

  • crickfan on July 16, 2008, 8:43 GMT

    Blaming India is no solution- Asif might have derailed Indian Batsmen but HOW MANY TIMES?I dont think he has played many matches against India There are so many other good bowlers who have derailed Indian batsmen then why did India not do something against them - why only Asif - is he some super bowler-NO. I also want to show the hypocritic nature of PCB which most of you dont notice:We see that most of the time both SHOAIB & ASIF together are not in the same playing XI - when Asif is OUT , Shoaib is IN and when SHOAIB is out ,Asif is IN.Someway or the other one of them is out of the team when the other is in.BOTH together not seen - this hass been going on for quite some time.Something fishy.

  • Haroun Rashid on July 16, 2008, 8:35 GMT

    You hit the nail on the head. Asif and Shoaib were found guilty of gross substance abuse by the first independent committee formed to investigate their case. The PCB should have carried out the sentence imposed instead of forming a new commmittee, with a new set of rules and with the sole aim of whitewashing the whole matter on some obscure technicality. Immediate and severe punishment might have taught them the lesson that this sort of thing will not be tolerated.

    Despite that, Asif has no excuses left. Both he and Shoaib have shown themselves to be pea-brained. And we can do without their sort in our cricket team. If we hit rock bottom, so be it. How long can we go on excusing the inexcusable and hiding behind fantastical conspiracy theories and other such tripe.

  • Ali Imran on July 16, 2008, 8:17 GMT

    Why was PCB claiming that Asif has cleared 3 dope test in few weeks while he was detained in Dubai and why his test came negative in Dubai wasn't he tested by PCB not too long ago.

  • Rangers on July 16, 2008, 8:05 GMT

    I Hope to see asif back in the team, love to see him bowling, I pray all alegations will be false in the end, and he will come back inshallah!!!

  • ahmed fasih on July 16, 2008, 7:59 GMT

    somebody said here that pakistan has not been winning much since the introduction of neutral umpires. kindly recall it was imran khan (captain of pakistan then) who insisted and had neutal umpires at home before anyone else. please recall also that the most memorable victories that pakistan had were all on foreign soil with either home or neutral umpires. as far as slowing down of pace is concerned i think the argument is too rediculous to be answered isnt it?

  • ahmed fasih on July 16, 2008, 7:35 GMT

    i think asif should be banned for tarnishing the spirit and name of the game. and i would like to add here that few sportsmen here and there are often found doing this. this in no way is the reflection of society and country they represent nor does this gives licence to others to vent their prejudices. everybody has the right to live with any prejudice or bias in ones head but i think its not wise to compromise your sobreity by expressing those. i refer to the very kind remarks of mr. swami

  • Aleem Chaudhary on July 16, 2008, 7:31 GMT

    Though PCB does have a weaker grip onplayers, yet i think we must think about indian involvement in such cases. Asif has derailed indian batting a number of times in past, so this can be a possibility of there. why did'nt Shane warn's results positive as also has been involved in such cases has an year ban in his career. I think ICC should check the authenticity of these tests taken during IPL

  • Karthik on July 16, 2008, 7:15 GMT

    Is it true that PCB is the biggest cash cow in Pakistan? If it is than yes they are equally guilty for these offenses to happen over & over again. If they do not put their house in order things like these are bound to happen. Asif should be ban for a long time if not for life but at the same time the incompetent officials should be shown the door at PCB. We can help them by supplying the right people in every field.

  • Luqman on July 16, 2008, 6:32 GMT

    If found guilty after positive result of B probe, I think responsible board, either PCB, ICC, WADA, or IPL, should ban the player according to their regulations.

    Additionally, Pakistan Cricket Board should also apply the rule regarding the Dubai drug case. I am not sure, but isn't it responsibility of Pakistan police to follow the case after someone is found guilty of dealing with drugs?

    Can anybody give proper information on this?

    We do have a big talent pool of young fast bowlers awaiting their chances and don't need to desperately rely on criminals. Just give young bowlers a chance. We surely will find one or the other jewels of qualities like the past greats.

    After all they were also humans. So just get your house in order and everything will come by itself.

  • shah on July 16, 2008, 6:31 GMT

    Now it is a best time for PCB to change their policy regarding these kind of player,they look like totally ignorant, illiterate and no common sense at all.They damaged the country image and destroyed the whole nation emotion.Look at the country give them such a respect and select them to play for the country and he supposed to be representative and ambassador for the country and unfortunately he come out and proved he is totally stupid and selfish and no idea about the nation and even for his own career.i strongly recommend the PCB kicked him out and let him go and picked some garbage and survive the rest for his life.it could be the best lesson for rest coming players.

  • Fahad J. on July 16, 2008, 5:24 GMT

    PCB requires a new set of management, a profiessional one, even if the government has to outsource the job to some foreign company. The rules and regulations are bended upon convenience, players are dropped upon personal differences, no infrastructure development of cricket in the near future its just pure raw talent being tested. If nothing else, we should have legends like Wasim Akram and Imran Khan to step up and show the PCB some direction along with some man management skills. Pathetic PCB, Pathetic!!

  • Rahim on July 16, 2008, 5:16 GMT

    I am from India and I also think Asif is a very good bowler.But some of the comments here are laughable.Like mvent's conspiracy thoery of old times when there was a cycle tube bursting in Pakistan it was attributed to foreign hand(read India). So saying India did it to him is completely off the radar. I feel he is taking such medicines to make fast recovery as Shane Warne did to increase his stamina.To make same mistake thrice does make him "incredibly stupid" or maybe he thinks that with Akthar banned PCB will go all out to bail him out. If his sample B tests positive he should be banned for considerable time. Let him prove his innocence properly and not by finding loopholes in technicality as his some well wishers are suggesting him.It is very sad to see young and talented cricketers like Asif ruin their career by taking drugs.

  • RD on July 16, 2008, 5:16 GMT

    I think its better not to make the issue political by producing conspiracy stories. Rather we should see through an independent investigation conducted by ICC. It is unfortunate for a fan like me to see such a talent go to waste. And for the blame game i think should be placed aside till a fair inquiry is made. I just hope seeing Asif play again.

  • Imran Ahmed on July 16, 2008, 5:05 GMT

    My brother Joseph Pereira a Pakistan fan if there ever was one might have had some strong words to say about this latest incident.

    Sadly he passed away in Canada a few hours ago and I'll never get to know his opinion.

    This much I can say - the self destruct button keeps getting pressed by some of the most talented Pakistani players......and no one seems to care.

    Such indifference is the bane of Pakistani cricket.

  • kuber on July 16, 2008, 5:04 GMT

    A young promising player like asif should be given chance to show his potential in cricket.the cricket world can expect a lot from the outstanding bowlers like asif. so, if possible, pcb should provide him a chance...

  • Krishna on July 16, 2008, 5:03 GMT

    Poor Asif! He should have trained to be a chemist so that he can tell which drugs have banned substances and which don't. Seriously, how does a cricket player know what drugs he/she should take and what he/she should avoid? Are these youngsters qualified to judge on technical stuff like that? Isn't it PCB's responsibility to make sure that its players don't need to buy drugs for themselves in good faith or ignorance?

    Poor, talented Asif! I would have been happy if it were Akhtar or Afridi, who's a real barbarian with no talent.

  • Sameer on July 16, 2008, 4:54 GMT

    Vinod, while mvent has all of us in gags, you are not too far behind my friend. I had always assumed WADA is an anti doping body and not a location in Switzerland. What is this board, a platform for morons from both sides of the border to strut their stuff? On topic, if idiotism is infectious I say lock Asif up an throw the key into the Jhelum.

  • Nauman on July 16, 2008, 4:46 GMT

    Kick asif out. Kick the captain out. And kick the the coach out for making this a farce for pakistan cricket. Apparently none of them have any pride or responsibility to know whats happening.

  • Uday on July 16, 2008, 4:36 GMT

    The blame game is easy to play. Blame it on the PCB, ICC... who next. Sure the governing bodies are guilty but, Asif is guilty and should have been banned back in 2006. Everybody who supported him and cheered him is also guilty. With your medical background, you should no a player like Asif has no justification to use nandrolone. Neither he nor Shoaib should be playing cricket or for that matter, any sport. The very fact that he did it twice shows that he is arrogant, callous and he believes that he is above the law. Any such attitude should be condemned. Asif should never be allowed into a cricketing ground. Umpires and players should refuse to play with him. Spectators should walk out if they see him on field. PCB is guilty for handling him with kid gloves. The guilt only goes so far. Anybody who tries to justify him by playing the blame game is guiltier than the PCB.

  • Pakguy InUS on July 16, 2008, 4:31 GMT

    I am a Pakistani and I am shocked by the idiot who said it's an Indian conspiracy. Yes, not all Indians like Pakistanis and not all Pakistanis like Indians. However, for the record, the majority of us are not like that and we don't believe the conspiracy theory.

    Secondly, whatever happened to personal responsibility? He had dope in his wallet. Playing for the Pakistani Cricket team should be a responsibility and an honor, not your ticket to a life of luxury and wild parties. Quite frankly, people need to realize that only an addict would be willing to risk the honor of playing for his country, the adoration of millions and, most importantly, the personal pride that comes from being one of the best in the world. In the US, there are many stories of football players, baseball players and track athletes ruining their lives because of alcohol and drugs. Asif is no different. Blame the PCB all you want, but the responsibility does lie with him, his family and friends.

  • danish mazhar on July 16, 2008, 3:48 GMT

    i don't blame pakistan cricket board in asif case,the board tried to save him last time,had they been strict people in pakistan would have said they ruined the career of a new star,people in pakistan are never happy,no matter what you do.I do blame board for shoaib akhtar fine and ban case but in drugs case i think players are solely responsible for what they have done and they should be punished now.

  • Greg on July 16, 2008, 3:23 GMT

    And u have just worked out Pakistani cricket is a disgrace... we now have neutral umpires because in the past Pakistani umpires were downright cheats, Pakistani players caught in ball tampering, gambling, drugs, the oval disgrace which has now been justified by a bunch of gutless ICC board members. Sure other countries also do this in random events, but Pakistani cricket is always in the news for any/all of the above at one time. Asif and Shoahib should have been given bans but now 6 months later another drug offence, and another appeal and wait for two months and another dropped chargby a greed driven Pakistani board

    The ICC, Zimbabwe and Pakistan cricket are a disgrace and if the indication of the last 5 years is any crystal ball for the future, then i suggest cricket fans find another sport, Eg Soccer where 157 countries can come together in some semblance of order, Cricket is on its last rites becuase every thing is money, money and sometimes on the odd occasion money

  • Guru on July 16, 2008, 2:27 GMT

    Pakistani fans who are blaming India for Asif's debacle seem to be too ignorant or rabid followers of Pakistani cricket. Lets look at facts

    a. The first time Asif was caught doping was through internal tests by the PCB, nothing to do with India b. The 2nd time...he was caught by Dubai airport authorities with opium. He had confessed that he got that stuff from a Hakeem in Pakistan. c. When the tests were done in India, during the IPL.. they were conducted by a Swiss Company.

    I just dont understand why people dont understand the facts and try to write fictitious stories about Indian involvement Indians love pakistani bowlers and have been big fans of Waqar and Wasim.

    Some people are blaming the PCB, but the ICC IS THE EQUAL CULPRIT. The ICC should come out strongly against doping and have the rights to punish any cricketer who is caught doping under any circumstances...any time a cricketer is caught.

    I wont be surprised to see Asif playing after 6 months..thats how Pakistan works.

  • Rohan on July 16, 2008, 2:21 GMT

    Pakistani Cricket unfortunately resembles the status of its country - total chaos and in shambles. There was a time in 80s and 90s when despite being an Indian most of us were in complete awe of Pakistani cricketers - the likes of Imran Khan, Waqar, Waseem and even Javed Miandad. One of the readers has rightly pointed out the lack of good leaders per se.

  • Ramson on July 16, 2008, 2:09 GMT

    It is very sad to see young and talented cricketers like Asif ruin their career by taking drugs.In a way I feel parents are to be blamed as Asif receive no formal education and guidance and lost his way in this world. Unless PCB does something you will find some more young talent go down the drain in the game of cricket for taking drugs. Cheats have no place in sports and should be shown the door so that it send a strong message to guys who plan to take drugs. Money and Fame has got into their heads and they forget as to what they were before and are in a way in their own world.

  • Ibrahim Abedi on July 16, 2008, 1:45 GMT

    Nonsense. Don't blame the PCB for doing what the whole country wanted. Akhtar and Asif are like Gods in Pakistan and when they were caught doing drugs and banned, there was outcry from every corner of the nation to let them play again. It's very easy to blame the PCB when things don't go your way. You are crucifying them for doing exactly what you wanted them to do.

    In other countries, it's not a matter of the boards being strict or lenient, as pretty much every place has similar rules under the ICC. Look at the cases of Warne, Azharuddin, Jadeja, Gibbs etc. etc... nobody put pressure on their respected boards to let them off easy and as a whole the fan base too realized that they should be punished with little regret. It was obviously not the case with Asif and Shoaib where by and large the Pakistan fan base demanded the heads of those who blamed them for drug abuse, rather than the abusers. Don't blame the PCB. Just blame the cricketers.

  • Manzar on July 15, 2008, 23:59 GMT

    It is indeed unfortunate that a gifted cricketer like Asif has thrown his career away by a wanton act of stupidity.He is not the only culprit though,an undemocratic authority like PCB is to blamed equally,for protecting these prima donnas when they are blatantly breaking all international laws & codes of conduct.If confirmed on B sample to have taken illegal substances,he should be given a ban as per wada code. I am a Britisher of Pakistani descent & it pains me to read some of the comments about India & its people by some ignorant persons.It is about time that Pakistanis acknowledged the rot which has set in their various institutions. These young men have not recieved any formal education or mentoring in the art of enjoying life as successful persons.The Pakistani board has benefitted as a result of their fame ,without guiding or counselling these pesons.Do they Care?No. Their tenure is short & they are only able to stumble along, one scandal after another.Accountability?

  • Amtul on July 15, 2008, 22:30 GMT

    PCB in incompetent & so is their product. It clearly shows the general problem they have all around in this country

  • Pakistan Zindabad on July 15, 2008, 22:27 GMT

    Alright, part of Mvent's comment has been disproved by other participants, but he does have a point. Why was this brought up a day after pakistan announced that players should give priority to Pakistan matches and not IPL. Why was this news released a month and a half after IPL ended? Arent the drugs tests done to see who's using drugs during the tournament and not after the tournament ended weeks ago? Others have also raised good points as to third party involvement should also be checked, maybe Shoaib akhtar. Anything is possible. Not saying Asif is innocent, but he has to get a fair chance!

    And why was his name leaked?? I hope Asif gets off bc of this stupidity of IPLers.

  • Aamir on July 15, 2008, 22:21 GMT

    I think both Asif & Shoaib have disgraced the game & Pakistan long enough. They banned no question.

    Some one needs to tell PCB; that these two imbeciles are not indispensable. After all grave yards are full of indispensable people.

  • Mark on July 15, 2008, 21:37 GMT

    And now I see that there has been a, no doubt accidental (do we really believe this?) technical error made in the procedure that should allow the player to avoid punishment on appeal. The moral: do what you like because even if you are caught and punished, you will win any appeal.

  • Mark on July 15, 2008, 21:32 GMT

    The usual denial of wrong-doing. The usual "I can't imagine how it happened", but a third drug-related incident in two years. In Dubai he was released as it was a "misunderstanding": it was all a storm in a teacup and a test on him when in custody had shown him to be clean. How gullible is the public supposed to be? Is it REALLY credible that the Indian secret service has targeted a player who is not even an established member of the team? Is it not just a fraction more credible that the PCB's policy of revising any initial punishment and then letting the offender off with a warning has led to some players taking advantage, knowing that they will get away with it even if caught?

  • Kashif Saeed on July 15, 2008, 21:24 GMT

    I dont know what these comments can do because nobody listens or care to the real people of Pakistan neither Politicians nor the PCB. As far as the Pakistan's team is concerned including Asif, they are not so innocent that they dont know anything or dont know what they are doing. I live in the UK and feel so much embarrassed due to our cricketers and politician on humiliating themselves and our beloved country Pakistan all over the world.

  • Prasad Tate on July 15, 2008, 21:13 GMT

    Being an Indian fan, I am a big fan of Pakistan bowling, be it Imran, Wasim or Waqar. Idiots like Shoib and Asif have tarnished an impeccable reputation of Pakistani bowlers. For a country who produced legends like Wasim, there should be plenty of talent to offer world class bowling display to the world. It is high time the get rid of players like Asif, who have brought shame on themselves and their supporters. Wake up Pakistan!

  • khansahab->legslip.com on July 15, 2008, 21:04 GMT

    In such a dire situation for Pakistan cricket, Pakistani cricket fans needed a “superstar” who would rescue the team’s precarious standing in world cricket. Asif seemed to be the genuine match winner they were looking for. Consider his strategy on how to get rid of Sangakkara for example, or that ball to Tendulkar that went through the latter’s defences and resulted in the legendary batsman falling on his knees, or the countless times Asif has foxed top order batsmen around the world and laid traps for them. However, Asif is now entangled in a trap himself which might result in him being banned for life. What will be the future of Asif and more importantly what will be the future of Pakistan cricket? How do we get rid of this curse Pakistani cricket is under at the moment? How can the PCB be blamed for the conduct of players like Asif and Akhtar? Aren’t these players mature enough and old enough themselves to know there is a limit to everything?

  • captain on July 15, 2008, 20:35 GMT

    I am from Pakistan and readers suggesting that its a conspiracy against Asif are dead wrong. Nobody is involved in it but Asif. Indians, Australians no one is to be blamed for it. Not even PCB. If you want to take drugs even recreational then nobody can do anything about it. No teaching/education can help you. It's your choice...kids from good family and students from good institute can end in drugs. One again it's your choice. As for Mr. Shane your post suggest that you must be high when posting that nothing like this happens in Australia. Did you forget Warne and World Cup 2003?. I believe Pakistan has more natural talent than any other playing cricket nation in the world.

  • Maxal on July 15, 2008, 20:32 GMT

    Kamran, please change your picture. For God's sake!

  • justice on July 15, 2008, 20:31 GMT

    i dont think asif would be that stupid to take drugs while the ipl was on every cricketer knows they have to give a sample is he really going to pop a load of pills come on guys wake up and smell the coffee this guys been stiched up i can think of only 1 country that can not produce fast bowlers like ours so they resort to dirty tricks to frame people its not the first time this has happend and it wont be the last the best thing the pcb can do is make shoaib captain and asif vice captain and unlease them on our enemy

  • blaze on July 15, 2008, 20:28 GMT

    Such is the political propaganda in your country, that its not surprising that some of you believe India has something to do with this issue. Yea, India targets one Pakistani cricketer and adds substances to his food and what ever the hell this idiot decided to get himself with. Its high time people stop pointing fingers at the most ridiculous targets and use intelligence which i'm sure you have and dissect the real issues.

  • Dr. Nauman Niaz on July 15, 2008, 20:08 GMT

    Mohammad Asif, three times since October 2006 has proved that he is a lout. Akhtar's is only a mirage, Asif has actually gone a long way in fermenting the already rotten Pakistan cricket scene. Get people like Dr. Nasim Ashraf, Mr. Shafqat Naghmi and Mr. Nadim Akram, who was court marshalled from Pakistan Army (64th Long Course) on disciplinary grounds, and you'll get louts getting bigger in heads and smaller in shoes. Many athletes and academics are convinced that using performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) is wrong, not only because of the risks incurred by athletes who use them but also because they are unfair to sport itself. In Asif's case it's about habituation, masking of injuries, etcetera. None, even the so called technocrats enrolled on hefty salaries in the PCB know anything about use of drugs, and things like the phenomenal modules. They should all be sacked, the President of Pakistan needs to whip all people out. Asif's theory of being naive should now be taken with reserve.

  • Dinesh on July 15, 2008, 19:39 GMT

    I suspect 'mvent' is none other than Asif himself!

  • S ABBAS on July 15, 2008, 19:33 GMT

    I do agree with a couple of guys, although that people in india and pakistan would like to live normal life now as neighbours, there are many idiots within the system, not mention more in india where more controversies related to come from, wether its betting, bribe and what have you.

    This not a blame for the indian nation, infact these morons do need to see they are not tarnishing PCB or IPL's image infact they are runing cricket. I seen how much respect pakistani players recieved when originally IPL players were auctioned, no one was really keen on hiring them and when they did, they got pathetic and unrealistic price tags. I believe these players should know themselves that for a few quids they were putting their own dignity on the line. I would not want any of the pakistani players to play for IPL at all, purely becuase until the political balance is achieved there is always gona be a DIRTY hand to spoil things. Why not let them go county where there is REAL GAME!!

  • Ketan H Mayecha on July 15, 2008, 19:17 GMT

    I dont see why this topic is being given such importance. Wait for the B sample, if negative let Asif carry on playing and if positive - ban him and let cricket move forward. The less importance these spoilt brats are given (whether guilty or not) the more they will behave and be responsible. The media is irresponsibly giving too much of importance leading to youngsters following these so called stars to follow suit.

  • noor on July 15, 2008, 18:56 GMT

    Asif should be banned for minimum 5 years. His conduct and scant regards to proper behavious is disgraceful.

    mvent, please do not stir up India v Pakistan animosity. The fact Asif had drugs in his wallet at Dubai Airport proves that Asif is either plain stupid or arrogant to think that everybody would believe his story about quack doctor (Hakim) gave him drugs mistakingly for herbal medicine.

    The trouble with PCB it doesnt have the balls to punish trouble makers.

  • Faisal Laljee on July 15, 2008, 18:48 GMT

    Pakistan has a constant problem with their pace bowlers. Shoaib and Asif through both drug use and injuries, Umar Gul through injuries, Shabbir Ahmed through his action. Will we ever see the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Imran or Sarfraz? None of the new pacers carry any real threat for the batsmen including Sohail Tanvir. Sigh!

  • Aas on July 15, 2008, 17:31 GMT

    PART I If we look back at the history of Pakistan cricket it is not the first time that our nation is dishonored by either its players or the PCB. Since we are an emotional nation, it is always the case that we find either banning a player for life or dismissing the cricket board as the only viable solution to the problem. Cricket lovers of Pakistan should realize it by now that such drastic measures are of no use in a system which is jam-packed with corrupt and egocentric people. It is indeed another sad day for our nation that Asif is once again found involved in a possible use of a banned drug which has now severely damaged the reliance of the nation on him. I believe that the PCB should do a thorough investigation regarding this matter rather than leaving Asif on his own. They should re-conduct a dope test in order to eliminate any chances of conspiracy against him. If Asif is found guilty then he should be dealt with the necessary punishment as indicated by the laws of ICC.

  • Jibran Tabraiz on July 15, 2008, 17:30 GMT

    PCB has never been a true professional working body to begin with. As we all know the pathetic way of PCB official selection (By the President). First thing has to happen be PCB should truly become a private enterprise or at least an IPO. Management and all staffs should be selected on their competency level, not the ways they hand pick their own choices. The reason for the pathetic situation of PCB is its high dollars earning, as it is the biggest cash cow in Pakistan hence it has been controlled by the top Government officials- This portrays the true nature of the environment in Pakistan that the whole Society is engulfed in. Pakistanis are great people just like other they need right people to represent them globally, be it their sportsmen, Politicians or whatever else they have to pick the right people through correct procedure. Last but not least, if Asif is guilty he should be ban for life. His ignorance has to do with him first than PCB.

  • Fahad Khan on July 15, 2008, 17:29 GMT

    I think that the idea that India is somehow behind the scandal is unrealistic and I'm sure there are very few people who actually think this.Just because it has made its way to this board doesn't mean that it is widely held. Having said that, in response to the comments posted here by Indians defaming Pakistan and stating that Pakistan is obsessed with India but India is a superpower etc. I would like to state that if India and Indians are not interested in Pakistan, why are you all writing on Pak spin, a blog about Pakistan cricket? Also, lets be honest, India has interfered in Pakistan (the same way Pak has in India) on many occassions and as far as Indian being an econ. superpower, there are est. 500M people in India who are poor so please lets not insult the poor people of either country with these kinds of statements. Indian spies have been arrested in Pakistan and their weapons recovered in Balochistan, is this an example of India having better things to do? Peace to everyone.

  • Jamal on July 15, 2008, 17:24 GMT

    He is innocent until proven gulity and Sampe B will tell us if he is gulity or not. Everyone past slow down. Imagaine if this was your brother or son who you be writing all this crap. Lets find out the results to Sample B and if indeed he is found gulity then ban him for life.

  • Shaheed Khan on July 15, 2008, 17:24 GMT

    Mr. Vents please not try to blame others for your failure! There is no conspiracy theory here! Period. It is clear like daylight that this drug thing happened twice in recent past. Look at Aussies how they handled Shane Warne. We don’t learn from our mistake and always try to put monkey on someone else’s back! Asif is just byproduct of the rotten system. Until ands unless we rectify our mistakes history will repeat itself again and again.

  • Sikandar Mala on July 15, 2008, 17:19 GMT

    Mvent is a real moron! Instead of blaming our neighbors, may be we should look ourselves in the mirror!! How about blaming INDIA for the Lal Masjid event too!!! no!! how about blaming INDIA for the sad state of affairs in pakistan for giving shelter to taliban, and all that BS!! Mvent!! get educated not in las masjid but a decent school for learning "accountability"!!!

    For the first mistake he committed a few years back, this Asif guy blames his lack of English or can’t read proper instructions OR whatever..now, for Dubai incident, he blames Hakim! And now… If this guy earns a decent living, why dosen’t he go to a proper medical help and not to a hakim or a mullah!! Pakistan cricketers lack education!!

  • Shahd Faruqui on July 15, 2008, 17:18 GMT

    He is an idiotic moron or moronic idiot (take your pick). He should be fined and jailed as well. Alas what a talent going wasted but his height (talls are normally stupid and their wisdom is in their ankles)and love for MONEY ruined him, Pakistan and world of cricket. Yes put him behind the bars.

    Shahid

  • Kamrus on July 15, 2008, 17:09 GMT

    As soon as Asif was caught with a contraband at Dubai airport, I was in no doubt that his first case of using steriods was no co-incident. I guess the question is, what sort of a drug did he get caught in Dubai with, as only an addict or a drug courier would be that irresponsible. He may take steriods but I am beginning to wonder if he is indeed a drug addict and for that he needs help, but not by PCB. At this stage if his 'B' sample is positive, the PCB and Asif have to take responsibility as they both have failed in the past and swept the problem under the rug.

  • Muhammad Farrukh on July 15, 2008, 17:00 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, I think you people should look into yourselves first before drafting any speculations. I am a Pakistani myself, but an ashamed one. Just look at PCB, this damn governing body just cannot refrain a mere 2 guys from anything stupid! This is Cricket not War. In this era where nations are looking forward to building economies, strenghtening ties and building blocs, you are still trying to maneuver the possibility of secret agency's involvement in cricket. Must have gone nuts ! Rather than throwing blindly whatever comes to your mind and defending the so-called (ugly) future of pak. cricket, should concentrate on promoting the game, not drugs. As of me, Asif should be banned for a life-time from even domestic cricket. He deserves it ! May be then there'd be a lesson for shoaib to learn too.

  • Vikram on July 15, 2008, 16:54 GMT

    The first step to self-improvement is accepting one's flaws.

  • nizar akbar on July 15, 2008, 16:46 GMT

    Kamran where is my comment I send yesterday,as far I know I did not say anything wrong in my comment. Please reply soon.

  • Omar Ehtesham on July 15, 2008, 16:45 GMT

    With all due respect Mr. Sriram, we both know that this is not a fragment or anywhere near a scrap of imagination. Though how far we try to overlook it, there exists the rivalry to an extent we cannot deny the truth.

    With regards to the topic Mr. Sriram, tell me how could the IPL disclose Asif's name without having tested the Sample B which SHOULD be positive. Where's the rules, ethics, and most importantly, the courtesy over here?

    Danish Zaheer [a medical expert who was part of the tribunal that overturned Shoaib Akhtar and Asif's drug-related ban in 2006] is right in saying that IPL violated the World Anti-Doping Code Article 7.2 that gives the player the right to ask for his 'B' sample to be analysed while Article 14.2 says the player's name can be publicly disclosed "no earlier than the completion of the administrative review described in Articles 7.1 and 7.2".

    Awaiting your response eagerly.

  • DesiHungama on July 15, 2008, 16:39 GMT

    Sorry Kamran- Going off topic for a bit- Great comments Sriram- I agree. We people tend to jump to conclusions too soon and start to blame one another. I cannot speak from the Indian point of view but surely we Pakistnis look so much upon on India whereas we feel Indians look down on us.

  • Imran Siddiqui on July 15, 2008, 16:36 GMT

    I regard Usman as one of the best sports writers but this time he has failed to deliver. Shoaib and Asif both should be banned period.

    Both of these guys are a disgrace to Pakistan and cricket. PCB can do so much for the grooming of players but they can't do much if the players are not following rules and guide lines.

    It is sad that people are critisizing PCB for these two gents Lets move on and find genuine fast bowlers out of the 160 million population.

  • Umar on July 15, 2008, 16:32 GMT

    Absolutely ridiculous. If his B sample is also positive then ban him for life not for 1 or 2 years. Pakistan doesn't need these pathetic idiots. Before banning these morons, I suggest changing the directors in PCB. What kind of rules are in place that no one follows.

  • Asghar on July 15, 2008, 16:28 GMT

    Kamran,

    This is entirely Asif's responsbility. He should be in jail like a petty criminal that he is.

    We are all aware of the Pakistan cricket board's incompetence, but that is entirely a different issue to Asif's criminal actions. Seperate columns please, do not obfuscate the issue!

    It almost appears you are sympathizing with Asif - what a disgrace to Pakistan.

    Asghar

  • SK on July 15, 2008, 16:24 GMT

    Huh? Why is it a tragedy? Asif took drugs, and was caught. Serves the PCB right, they let Asif (and Akhtar) be found blatantly guilty of doping and yet allowed them to play.

  • Mastoor on July 15, 2008, 16:20 GMT

    Dear Dr Abbasi!

    The problem with Pakistan cricket could be that it has too many self-righteous doctors hovering around it like flies. Mohammad Asif is stupid, ill educated, immoral, what not!

    The cricket loving Paki doctors shun their own tongue, they speak in a foreign language within the country and without. How, in the face of this insane and slavish attitude, do you expect young and gifted Pakistani cricketers, whose talents lie in playing cricket and not in learning foreign languages, to know the detailed rules and laws governing the use of drugs? Has any of the doctors, who like to shout out lectures standing on high moral ground, published any informative leaflets in Urdu?

    The latest controversy surrounding Asif has a peculiar feature: his name was revealed by IPL/Indian cricket administrators in defiance of the internationally accepted rules. Is IPL as stupid and ignorant as Asif? Or is there a hidden motive? If Asif is lost to Pakistan cricket who gains the most? Is this a trap into which he has fallen? Perhaps he is guilty after all. Can't our doctor commentators, puffed up with moral arrogance, produce balanced reports and point out the suspicious circumstances in this case?

  • Taha Ahsan on July 15, 2008, 16:17 GMT

    The damage is done! Lets find good talent in domestic cricket. We cant allow offenders to ruin our country's name time and time again. Choose a team, put them to test against domestic teams and then let them take a crack at inernational teams. We should have the next world cup in mind at all times and not who's the next cricketer we should spoil.

  • Ali Dada on July 15, 2008, 16:13 GMT

    Doing drugs is illegal and is one of the worst crime in any country. When Pakistan has strict laws, they should apply them. I applaud PCB on bringing back Mohammed Asif to Pakistan but he should be handed over to Pakistani police now.

  • AHMED on July 15, 2008, 16:04 GMT

    I think they shouldn't give any chance to Asif because it's affecting Pakistan's reputation.

  • Riju on July 15, 2008, 16:00 GMT

    All this nonsense. Everyone including Asif is responsible for there own life...no point in blaming PCB or others for this. Moreover he was tested once before and also caught once as well

  • Sriram on July 15, 2008, 15:49 GMT

    I agree with the article, though not so much with Mr. Omar Ehtesham, especially about point 3.

    Perhaps they deserve to be investigated but conspiracy theories apart, I believe the common man is moving towards being one of a global village. The time for infighting and citing cultural differences is long gone, maturity entails putting differences of opinion & thought aside, and appreciating the fact that the essence in me, is the essence in everyone else. After all, we're all just flesh and blood, Pakistan vs India is just a figment of imagination based on man-made boundaries in a world that is increasingly moving towards globalisation. Like Prote from K-PAX said, it's staggering how we, as humans, have made it this far with our policy of an eye for an eye.

    On topic, I believe investigations must be carried out to see if there was a third-party involvement in Asif's drug case and if the findings turn out otherwise, an example must be made by a ban as strict as it can get.

  • Salman on July 15, 2008, 15:49 GMT

    M.Asif wont get out of this one. He doesn't deserve to play for Pakistan.

  • Nasir on July 15, 2008, 15:48 GMT

    Asif should be dropped permanently from the squad. So he can learn the lesson.

  • rfm on July 15, 2008, 14:57 GMT

    Swami has posted his thoughts (twice) in this matter, and I believe there is much truth to it. His last sentence states, "Unless instrinsically the society changes towards greater personal self-discipline, I cant see significant changes coming through in Pakistan cricket setup as well. Cricket is only a projection of normal life in the country." This would apply to the PCB as well. Nadeem Mohammed has posted a similar reply about our self-indulgence. If all the young men who have attained some measure of prominence consider themselves to be little goondas and above the law, we will continue to see such humiliation and disgrace over and over.

  • Akbar on July 15, 2008, 14:57 GMT

    A child's action reflect how good the Parent is. PCB certainly did not do the right things to discipline its players.The entire cricket setup in Pakistan is in a turmoil state now.It also reflects the political scenario there.

  • Bring Anwer Ali on July 15, 2008, 14:56 GMT

    This is a Great News for Pakistan and world Cricket, we need less players like Asif in Cricket. my question is why are all the bowlers that get into these troubles are from Punjab Province? i realize most of them are university graduates, some are doctors, like imran khan, and waqar younis..

    so why not bring in Jahil players from Karachi, im sure they cant be any worse than this current pakistani squad?

    Sindh did beat Punjab in the Pentagular Tournament this year, where Anwer Ali ripped punjab to pieces.

  • Ramu on July 15, 2008, 13:51 GMT

    It looks like mvent's comments are not totally off the mark. Check this out (from cricinfo article http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/current/story/361109.html):

    The World Anti-Doping Code Article 7.2 gives the player the right to ask for his 'B' sample to be analysed while Article 14.2 says the player's name can be publicly disclosed "no earlier than the completion of the administrative review described in Articles 7.1 and 7.2".

    I smell something funky here. A bad stench actually. I'd also like to add, that there are many out there who'd like to set Asif up, including Shoaib Akhtar (grudge? jealousy?), Kamran Abbasi (so he can blame Dr. Ashraf and the PCB yet again), many batsmen whom Asif has embarrassed on the pitch etc. I hope if anyone set Asif up, they get pulverized. Asif is a great talent and people out there are naturally jealous.

  • Vinod on July 15, 2008, 12:04 GMT

    The saving grace of the entire article was the incredible sense of humour displayed by MVENT. I really feel sorry for him as he seems to have spent one evening too many reading mystery novels ! BUT he did manage to make me (and I can see many more readers) laugh ! I have something that will make him happy ... WADA is located in Switzerland where a good many tamilians from south India live ... hmmm maybe some of them spiked the sample at the lab Mvent !! Asif is a drug cheat and even before his sample B is tested, we know now that fact .. for he has repeatedly proven himself a disgrace to the game. He should be banned heavily and the PCB should probably spend some time educating its players rather than tapping phones

  • Rizwan on July 15, 2008, 11:56 GMT

    Kamraan!......are you serious?.....how are you going to blame this on the Pakistani Board. The Boards got strict policies in place, its the players responsibility to abide by the rules laid down by the board. I can name numerous players in the American Atheletics that were found guilty of using drugs or there samples for "positive" for the illegal substance, does that mean the American Atheletics Association be blamed for it??....Asif has only himself to blame for this, not once, not twice but this is the third time.....Let him go, be a drug dealer, if he can't keep himself away from it!. We will be fine w/o him (Sohail Tanvir, Abdur Rauf, Iftikar Anjum (not the greatest fast bowling tandem but hey they work hard right?)

  • Nadeem Mohammed on July 15, 2008, 11:27 GMT

    Maturity: a term used in psychology to indicate that a person responds to the circumstances in an appropriate manner (Wikipedia). The important word being psychology: a process of using the brain for elucidation. Not being too judicious on Asif, he is merely a front-runner in a line up of idiots.

    Why is there not an ounce of professionalism and athleticism in Pak cricket? Fielding the ball while holding onto your cap? (Salim Malik,90’s), scandals before a World Cup final (Ijaz and co,1999), partying down-under in an intense series with Australia (Sami and co,2000), list goes on!

    One aspect is true; the Pak cricket is a reflection on its country. The greed, the corruption, the self-indulgence, the miserliness. Pakistan cricket will not revolutionize until individuals revolutionize themselves. Attitudes change, life-styles change. Passion exists, affability exists, warmth exists, graciousness exists, and humbleness exists. Once individuals transform, Pak cricket will transform.

  • Fahad Khan on July 15, 2008, 11:26 GMT

    I don't think that Asif is foolish enough to knowingly take some kind of steroid or even recreational drug after what happened to him previously. However, his excuse of taking something given to him by a hakim or some ayurvedic medicine makes a lot of sense to me. Unfortunately, I have seen many people like this, who refuse to listen to anyone who is telling them something as common sense and will continue to listen to hakims (and also pirs) no matter what they say or what they provide them. There are many people like this in Pakistan and his reaction of being "shocked" at the result and saying he had taken something given by a hakim (again) is just sad but reality. I remember in the last case, the Pakistani team members were told not to take anything of which the contents were not sure so in this case he should not be forgiven by the PCB, even if WADA lets him off on a technicality. It may have the unintended effect of teaching the people of Pakistan not to blindly follow anyone.

  • Imran Haq on July 15, 2008, 11:22 GMT

    I have to agree, to some extent, with the comments echoed by the first poster. I was always skeptical about Pakistanis playing in the IPL and now I know why. The irony is that his fate will be decided by the BCCI, who are likely to do him no favours, rather than the PCB. Nandrolone tests are highly controversial, but the PCB seem unwilling to highlight this. Spiking his food with it would not be a problem, the motive is there if you are an Indian, but this seems not to have been highlighted either. I am not sure of the legalities of the suddenly-introduced tests either. Personally, I think the (likely) two years will do him some good and allow him to concentrate on his feeble physique.

  • JUN8 on July 15, 2008, 11:00 GMT

    Why do we care about Mohammed Asif? What has he ever done to bring pride to Pakistan?

    He's a talented bowler who simply thinks he is above the law and a superstar, unfortunately a VERY TYPICAL Pakistani trait.

    The fact remains there is a talented Mohammed Asif in every street alley way playing cricket in Pakistan. He is not a one off and we should not revolve our worlds around this petulant idiot.

    Forget him, drop him, ban him; let’s move on and unearth the next shining star in Pakistan. Someone who will actually take pride representing his country

  • Md. Shamsul Islam on July 15, 2008, 10:56 GMT

    I strongly recommended the PCB authority to give a good lesson to Asif. As we all known that cricket is a gentleman game so there is no scope to do anything silly and unwanted activities. What Asif done is very ridiculous. So he should banned from cricket for at least three years.Like me many more Pakistani supporter look ahead to watch and listen what happening next about Asif.

  • Ronak Shah on July 15, 2008, 10:54 GMT

    Oh well Asif is going to be millionaire soon. He will simply accept he took performance enhancing drugs to enhance performance in IPL. Then he will file a lawsuit against the company which made the performance drug and easily win the case when he gives the court statistics of his performance in IPL... He will win hands down because his performance was below par , or maybe perhaps he took the drugs that why he was able to perform like he performed. Well in that case how would he perform without drugs...Frightening isn't it

  • Ronak Shah on July 15, 2008, 10:50 GMT

    "Our policy on dope offenders is very clear," Shafqat Naghmi, the PCB's chief operating officer, told The News. "The board will not provide any kind of help to Asif and he will have to fight his case himself.Aamer Sohail, a former captain, has blamed the board for not taking appropriate action against doping after Asif and Shoaib tested positive for a banned substance Nandrolone in 2006.article 15.3.1 in WADA's code says that in the case where an international player tests positive in another country's tournament, the rules of the overall global governing body - the ICC here - are likely to apply. Looks like if ICC & WADA is involved then PCB cant twist facts to bail this guy out this time.

  • Nadeem Mohammed on July 15, 2008, 10:48 GMT

    From reading the whole blog, I’ve singled out one common note; Dr Nasim Ashraf. This individual is being unsympathetically used as a scapegoat for someone else’s lack of brain cells. What has (or hasn’t) done to merit such harsh critic for others idiotic behaviour?

    Dr Nasim Ashraf has done a lot for Pakistan cricket and to be wholly answerable and liable for these latest scandals is callous. Management is there to manage, agree? If the process of skipping the ‘management’ stage for handling scandals and to automatically blame another individual is completely inequitable. Why have management stages or processes if it’s not made use of for its functionality? When a school student does wrong will the blame unreservedly go the head teacher?

    Every individual has enough brain power to know what’s right and what’s wrong in a sane state of mind. You can master the art reverse-swing, out-class greats but yet cannot distinguish rights from wrongs; simple human disposition.

  • Omer Admani on July 15, 2008, 10:44 GMT

    The PCB and the whole management needs to be blamed for this. It might well be that Asif was taking performance-enhancing drugs, but look at how Mohammad Asif was managed by Pakistan cricket captains and how the PCB always seemed oblivious of that. Asif was consistently used by Inzamam, and by Malik against SA in Pak, to ball 10-15 overs on a trot. You had to wonder then how this person was keeping up with the workload, needless to say that the overload led to injury upon another one. Asif might well have taken drugs to enhance the healing of the injuries, or put more body mass, to be able to bowl the number of overs being asked from him by gaining extra strength. Ultimately, Asif has only himself to blame, but Malik, Asharaf and all are a considerable part of this. He has been wasted by the PCB and the Pakistan cricket captains. Captains who obviously don't know how to manage players and the Board which is just about unaware of everything in Pak cricket team, until it appears in news.

  • Shane on July 15, 2008, 10:44 GMT

    As an Australian, i wonder why Pakistanis still follow or even care about their national team?

    Really! They have been embarassing Pakistanis for the past decade.

    They have no talent. And are followed by constant scandals.

    So some advice would be to follow another cricket team e.g Australia.

    Where these problems don't happen!

  • Shabir on July 15, 2008, 10:37 GMT

    When this story broke out, I was waiting for Osman's response, so I could comment irrespective of what Osman said. Asif came on to the scene and I thought 'Ah!, at last someone to dig Pakistan cricket out of the mire after the previous great fast bowlers'. Now, I want nothing to do with this idiot, who should never be allowed to play for Pakistan again. Nor should he be allowed anywhere near a cricket ground. Same goes for Shoaib. They both appear to have put their country second to themeselves.

  • zeeshan haider on July 15, 2008, 10:30 GMT

    "It is almost beyond belief that his international career could have ended before Shoaib Akhtar" i wonder how come you can write so true..........

  • Isam on July 15, 2008, 10:27 GMT

    What more can be said about Asif as own his actions speak volumes. Nasim Ashraf and his cronies need to go as they've had plenty of years to make their case. Their policies, inept leadership styles, and inept administrative ability has brought Cricket Pakistan into unprecedented disrepute and the lowest standards in a quarter century. Enough is enough!

  • Tahir Mukhtar Ahmad on July 15, 2008, 10:24 GMT

    Asif did himself in this situation. He should go and do somethings else with the money he has made so far. A lesson for upcomming talent of Pakistan cricket. PCB should not back him at all and let him fight it out on his own. A total disgrace for Pakistan.

  • Nasir on July 15, 2008, 10:13 GMT

    I suspect why IPL didnt disclose this before, are they waiting for right time?. secondly on dubai, how Asif passed mumbai immigration checks and caught at dubai. I think PCB need strong policy and test procedure before player playing in india. Asif is highest kind of idiot and cleverly manipulated by others for instance in india. Please Kamran Abbasi could you accused PCB later and address this consipiracy againts our bowlers.. i heard enough and concluded that PCB board is a bunch of non professionals nuts.

  • Yil on July 15, 2008, 9:58 GMT

    I am Pakistani. Please ban Asif for 3 years with the next infraction being a life ban.

  • zeeshan haider on July 15, 2008, 9:53 GMT

    "It is almost beyond belief that his international career could have ended before Shoaib Akhtar" i wonder how come you can write so true..........

  • Jose on July 15, 2008, 9:43 GMT

    Asif should be banned for life. I am sure there will be more potential talents in Pakistan. Pakistan has always been trying to protect their stars by throwing the blame on others. This encourages every player to continue his illegal activities. Still its not late to wake up and act firmly.

  • gojjo on July 15, 2008, 9:16 GMT

    the guy should be sent back to Dubai, PCB should apologise to the Dubai prosecutors and ask them to reopen the case, I am sure just like PCB called for neutral umpires in the 80s , let the neutral country of Dubai retry Asif. Arab hospitality and jails are famous for being infamous especially for drug smugglers - Pakistan has been labeled as a failed nation and a failed state. The whole character of the Pakistani nation (rulers and people) is reflected in its cricket team - characterless, greedy, power hungry , corrupt and incorrigible! Find me the last University graduate who played for Pakistan - Ramiz Raja who's doing well speaking fluent English in the media rather than the heavily Punjabi accented Sohails, Zaheers etc - bunch of losers who are sitting in the media box with an axe to grind.

  • Tughral T Ali on July 15, 2008, 9:13 GMT

    What a tragedy and a real shame. Asif has ended his own career and has no one to blame but himself.

    This board has shown itself to be married to controversy. I am not sure if its fair to blame PCB for this mess or not.. but one can not deny that in the last 2 years we have only moved from one big admistrative screw up to the next. Cricket in pakistan no longer makes news.. all we talk about are the scandals. The sport is being destroyed. What examples are being set for the newer generations of cricketers? When i was growing up we looked up to Imran Khan. There isnt one inspirational sportsman left now.

    Really tragic, and sympotmatic of the overall rot in place.

    On the same note what the heck is Shoaib Akhtar's name doing back in the list of probables? Didnt we close the chapter on this man?

    We are gluttons for punishement arent we?

    ps. stop blaming India. this is our own mess

  • murali on July 15, 2008, 9:11 GMT

    I think these guys know what to take what not to take. If they still test positive then they should be banned whoever it is. All boards around the world should be unique in this. let the lessons be thought to them so no younger generations does it again.

  • unknown on July 15, 2008, 9:09 GMT

    Those posting commnets on this controversy should reat comments posted by mvent,his coments are valuable. Yes whenever Asif got into controversy,it involved India,he is rightly saying that players traveling to India,must get tested in Pakistan first & get reports that they are not using banned substances,then travel to India & take banned substances & if later on they test positive,show them earlier report & start another controversy. What a way to educate young cricketers of Pakistan?????? How can he forget that when Asif & Shoaib were found using banned substance in Champions trophy(2006),tested were conducted by PCB when players were in Pakistan. Can readers stop commenting in such a fashion which will spoil great talents mor.....

  • M Haseeb on July 15, 2008, 9:04 GMT

    What a SHAME, Asif should be banned for life. This should be made the end of him. Enough of this nonsense. He has brought enough shame to name of the country and sport. PCB Chairman is a corrupt an incapable guy who is running PCB like his piggy bank. He has no clue about management. Its time we should get rid of him also and bring in a professional sports manager.

  • Sheheryar Khan on July 15, 2008, 8:59 GMT

    Don't feel sorry for him anymore. None of these guys have any excuses. All this stuff about early fame, not enough exposure... well it doesn't hold true anymore. Most of these guys know what's going on in the world around them and have a pretty decent idea of what's right and what's not! So if they still can't handle it then I guess they should be shown the door. Zero tolerance should be the way to go. And as for the incompetence of PCB... well they are part of our setuo aren't they? Why should they be any different? Alas! It's a sad fact of how we operate in general.

  • HOME_RUN_HOMER on July 15, 2008, 8:56 GMT

    Seriously, I think it's time pakistani fans convinced GORDON RAMSAY to take over the top job. Seriously, what a spineless bunch of snakes are running a team that's so gifted and talented? Well, we all know what's going to happen here ... Asif cries crocodile tears, PCB lets him off, screws up again and around and around in circles we go. I am not pakistani but this mug is giving the pakistani greats a real bad image

  • Rev D A Nichols on July 15, 2008, 8:55 GMT

    I feel for the fans of Pakistan and cricket who are being sold short by the PCB and the actions of SOME of the Pakistan team. If only someone who understands the culture and commands respect (like Imran Khan) could come in and take control, we would all be better off.

  • masood on July 15, 2008, 8:55 GMT

    time to move on from m.asif & s.akhtar. To many talented players out there in pakistan. The board should be replaced by somebody with a bit of integrity. If either of these players plays again for pakistan without punishment for what they have done i will be ashamed to support pakistan team.

  • H.Malik on July 15, 2008, 8:46 GMT

    To Ayaz.F.Farooqi and all those Patriotic Pakistanis who see Indian Indulgence in Making Asif what he is found out tobe a Moron a Dumbo Jumbo!, Guys Your such unterence is due to the hammered in teaching for the past 60 years that For every fault of our own making,INDIA IS THE REASON. It reminds me a collegue who was made redundent and he solely and squarely blamed The Indian Admin & Finance Manager who in my collegue's spoken words , conspired to get him kicked out of the job ! YET I have been working with the same Indian Man for 20 year who now occupies the 2nd most powerfull slot in the same Company BUT neither I "Being a Pakistani" made redundent nor any adverse remarks or reviews had been given or recorded by the same person against me,infact I am held in much better respect compared to many others including his own Indians,in the eyes of the same so powerfull Indian ...Come on Guys,own the monkey & feed it yourself, don't pass it on to others shoulders & pretend Mr Clean

  • haseeb on July 15, 2008, 8:41 GMT

    to fly our flag at the international arena?

    PCB should have come out with an immediate response that they Asif is contracted by PCB in the 1st instance i.e. PCB will decide the next step before any one else pick this up. They should have allowed Asif to come up with an explanation and then should have decided on his future clearly and accurately.

    Hard and bad is may sound but I am afraid some time making an example out of some one sends a clearer message to a particular audience then any training/ management /seminars!

  • haseeb on July 15, 2008, 8:40 GMT

    People will talk about the fact that Pakistan don’t have a drug education e.t.c. I agree we should have education and players should learn all aspects of this but who holds the ultimate responsibility? If Asif was that innocent and committed then how come he didn’t took it upon himself and ensured that he doesn’t fall at the same hurdle again ?

    PCB have been guilty of not being firm enough in the past. Fans have been guilty of not seeing what is right and wrong for Pakistan and have supported some of these nut jobs that should have been put out of contention a lot earlier

    Saying all that I ultimately don’t agree of yet another incorrect decision and timing by PCB. They cannot leave Asif hanging in front of an external media and let some one else make a nice mockery of our laundry! What message are they sending out ? Oh we cant fix our problems/ we are not strong enough to be firm with our own kids who keep on falling on the same hurdle and are not good enough to fly our flag

  • haseeb on July 15, 2008, 8:39 GMT

    4. Because in countries like Pakistan and India players are given a seat of a king and when you do that you don’t see any wrong doing on there part ?YES It seems like PCB repeatedly find them selves in catch 25.. Dam If you do.. Dam if you don’t)

    The issue we see today is not of discipline but of the image of cricketers in Pakistan. They are treated as kings and dare I say it .. they are seen as “bigger then cricket” “more important then the ultimate respect of Pakistan” this goes to there heads and play with there senses that tell you what is right and wrong!

    The world media today will give examples of Flintof, Shane Warne e.t.c. how they were treated by there board but we never saw rallies and street demonstrations against these decisions in Australia and England. Which in turn makes the decision maker the ability to see things clearly without the any distractions like if your decision is not liked by the public then you better find a new country for your family!

  • Hari on July 15, 2008, 8:39 GMT

    Mvent, Am an Indian and let me tell you a reality. India is not obsessed with Pakistan, the way Pakistan is about India. We are an economic superpower and a flourishing country. Coming to cricket, we dont see Pakistan as a major threat any more. We compete with Aus and SA. So, my friend, our "secret service" or the cricket admin will not waste their time and efforts to "mix something in his food"..dude, u must be out of your mind!

    Have a couple of question for the PCB

    1. Do you need guys like asif and shoib to win? 2. Why dont u just forget about them? They are spoiling what little is left of your "name" in the global community.

  • Haseeb on July 15, 2008, 8:38 GMT

    Has any one actually thought what were the reasons behind PCB’s decision to over turn 1st ban and going out of the way to help Asif in Dubai ? I will not for 1 split second defend the PCB or the Asif as I believe both are at fault but I do believe some one need to look at all reasons behind the ?

    Lets peel the skin from the previous decisions to let Asif walk free.. Why would PCB decide to over turn the ruling on both Asif and Shoaib’s drug cases and then go out of the way in Dubai to get him out again ? What or Who was to gain? was it 1. Because they were fantastically talented and Pakistan needed them to keep on playing? Honest answer ? YES 2. Because PCB was under pressure, from the sea of fans, wanting to see Pakistan do well and they needed both these player to achieve this? YES 3. Because there was a so much pressure from the political grounds/street demonstrations to get these players playing again?? YES cont....

  • Fakhar Malik on July 15, 2008, 8:38 GMT

    I am surprised Asif is saying that he is innocent. It is undestandable the somebody spiked somebody's drink and it comes up positive but people do not carry drugs in there wallets. I know exactly what is in my wallet even I don't go through it everyday. He was caught with a band substance and allowed to walk out of it. Then come the results. They should look after themselves rather than blaming anybody and everybody. Problems is they become superstars over night and mentally not strong enough. Cheats got no place in any sport. PCB should put there act right and if he is guilty then life ban nothing else. They have not brought any pride to PAKISTAN. I am British Pakistani and I love Pakistani Cricket but ASIF and SHOAIB are waste of space.

  • Faridoon on July 15, 2008, 8:38 GMT

    Very saddening indeed for all Pakistanis to learn of Asif's latest drug story. However, we must be careful that sadness doesn't turn to sympathy.

    It is this very sympathy we have always offered our players that has led to where we are today.

    The players need to be dealt with sternly. So what if we're losing a very good bowler, we need to stay honest and disciplined and united against this kind of behavior. We cannot condone drug addiction, least of all in our role models. Ban Asif from all forms of cricket. Make it a deterrent for all young and aspiring atheletes. Nothing less will suffice.

  • Vishnu, Perth on July 15, 2008, 8:37 GMT

    Commenting on this issue I agree with most of fellow bloggers that Asif needs to be shown strong/strict disciplinary action. The comments made by MVENT is highly regretted. I think he/she needs to read quality news in order to mature/improve with their knowledgebase. I am a very strong/passionate Indian supporter. When Pak last toured India I was happy that Asif was injured. Agreed he has got talent, but I think a life ban is too harsh. Maybe for 1-2 years and coach/counsel him and bring him back. But time away from the game could actually make his game go down. As they say here in Australia if you dont use it you lose it. Finally Mr Abbasi has comprehensivley summarised what is happening and eaht could happen. I only disagree in the aspect og baning him forever.

  • Sarosh Elahi on July 15, 2008, 8:34 GMT

    I agree with the comments regarding the PCB ineptitude and the stupidity of Asif. Yet I just feel that in this instance it is not the PCB who is at fault it is Asif. This guy played club cricket in England toured Australia and earns an extortionate amount of money when compared to the average Pakistani citizen. Yet every time he is caught cheating he is turned into an innocent villager who does not know right from wrong, does not know English so he relies on team mates and seniors for guidance on nutrition. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOKE.

    I cannot help but feel that the Pakistan players are being given too much adulation and credit when they have not done anything to deserve it.

    Players who have not yet taken 100 test wickets being touted as legends and batsmen with below par averages in this day and age (malik, Younis, butt) being compared to past greats.

    IT’S A JOKE I SAY

  • amyn lakhani on July 15, 2008, 8:33 GMT

    My father was an ardent fan of cricket. I am glad he is dead and not around to hear all about Pakistan cricket stupidity. there is no more game, just in-fightings and blames and drugs and money. Now, I find it very hard to explain my 12 year son that "this is not cricket" Very sad!

  • Talha on July 15, 2008, 8:31 GMT

    Negligent,unfathaomable,stupid.These are the words that in different contexts describe the actions of Mr Mhd Asif. A man of immense talent but yet a knuckle head.Pcb for once shloud act like a governing body and ban the miscreant.If Pcb is afraid that we might lack the fire power in our bowling department, it needs to look no further then the current bunch of bowlers like Abdur rauf< Wahab Riaz, Sohail Khan and a couple others in the domestic circle and the we have umar gul,wont count Sohail tanveer in i believe he is one hit wonder, once the batsmen will start picking his action we will be very easy pic(Refer to hi stats in Asia cup).coming back to the doping scandal a pride of a nation is always above once persons benefits.For the PCB to retrieve its self and to give an example to all that youngsters that no offence will go unpunished Asif should be ban P.S: I loved the way Asif bowls but the pride and integrity of my country is much more important for me.

  • Ahad on July 15, 2008, 8:30 GMT

    Hey... People.... Think before you write.. look at what ZAIN_TORONTO (2nd comment) has said. "even villagers know not to mess with fire once you've already been burnt". Do you actually think Mohammed Asif is that stupid that he would take drugs repeatedly knowing that his career is in danger?..read the comments by 'mvent' (1st comment)..

  • Bushan on July 15, 2008, 8:29 GMT

    I still remember the off-cutter that asif bowled to get laxman out in 2006 test. It hurts for cricket fans like me to see such a prodigious talent go waste. Well, he has dug himself a trench and i cannot see him coming out of it in the near future.. Now you will be remembered more for your off-field controversies rather than your lovely bowling action..

  • Sreeni on July 15, 2008, 8:27 GMT

    Fundamentally, to allay the blame to the PCB,is a little annoying to me, as it provides an easy scapegoat for any player misdemeanor. To my mind, the impact that the usage of a performance enhancement drug in cricket is minimal at the least, largely owing to the fact that you still got to be able to pitch the ball in the right areas or possess technique to make any runs at all. Usage of recreational drugs (considering there are suggestions that Hashish was found on Asif's person at Dubai), is a matter that is independent of the sport itself and wholly a personal matter. Cricket or any other sport for that matter does not have a ruling on the number of pints one knocks back before or after a game, so why necessarily cringe and make a big issue if someone smoked some pot. The moral brigade out there may say, "but cricketers are role models", to w hich i ask, so are rock stars and filmstars, and politicians, who is drug testing them?and are we raising the same hue and cry?

  • Sudhey on July 15, 2008, 8:26 GMT

    Here we go again, yet another Asif controversy. This guy does seem to make a habit of such things. However, I agree with Mr. Abbasi, that the PCB is equally at fault if not more. This guy shouldn't have been handed the rope the first time he got involved. A strict ban at that time would have set the right example, and averted this disgrace. What a waste of a talent!! And by the way, let's stop criticizing poor mvent. He is clearly a 12 year old who's watched too many detective movies. Lets be kind to him, he deserves our sympathy.

  • HOME_RUN_HOMER on July 15, 2008, 8:21 GMT

    Seriously, leave Dr Ashraf alone. The poor bloke is coping flak for everything - Pakistans failure at the 2007 World Cup, poor performance of their team in the ASIA cup, the never ending SHOAIB scandals ..... it just goes on and on and on. Before you know it, governments will start blaming him for global warming

  • Rahul Sahgal on July 15, 2008, 8:19 GMT

    For those implying some kind of Indian conspiracy, please do note that obtaining the samples and the lab testing was handled by an independent Swedish organization. I think the way the PCB protected Shoaib and Asif in the past has led to this. They never paid for the previous occasion when they tested postive for Nandrolone. This was followed by the Dubai episode when the Pakistani authorities applied much pleading and pressure on Dubai to drop the charges. Remeber - Asif was not found innocent in Dubai - the charges were simply dropped. Asif it seems has come to believe that he cannot be touched - that he is above the law. I think he needs to learn a lesson. A 2 or 3 year ban would serve as an example to the rest of the cricketing world that you cannot get away with cheating.

  • Raj on July 15, 2008, 8:19 GMT

    Alas! My favourite bowler in recent time, his run up to the crease, the release and that late swing movement, simply incredible. I have seen him since his debut and have always wished to see him play a full series and at full fitness. Sad that his prowess is aided. I am big fan of Asif, but I dont think he is stupid or ignorant. He is probably hooked into drugs, much deeper that we know. I wish i can see him bowl again, but its this wish out our which leaves the culprits go scot free!

  • Prashant on July 15, 2008, 8:18 GMT

    Its the same old story. This is Pakistan n PCB every one kns what is going to happen. PCB bans Asif for 1-2 yr n he defends against tat ban and he gets only 4-6 month.PCB is great. Plz do sm gud work for Pakistan Cricket its going down.

  • sajjad kazmi on July 15, 2008, 8:11 GMT

    Kamran Abbasi commented that "a player who held the future of Pakistan Cricket in his hand". I feel that this kind of comment further spoils these brats. Thank God that Pakistan Cricket is not dependant on idiots like Asif. No body is above the game. Many Asifs and Shoaibs will come and go but the image of Pakistan Cricket needs to be improved. PCB should ensure that Asif does not getaway this time and example is set for future generations. Please ascertain about the test result of sample A and sent sample B for test. If positive again, nothing short of life ban. If rules permit, PCB should also impose heftiest possible monetary penalty to recover any money doled out to him for bringing disgrace to entire nation. I wonder why nobody officially asked the details of incident that took place at Dubai Airport. The other day I heard some one on a live TV show, that Asif was totally out of his senses during scuffle at Dubai prior to his detention. Was he ill or .....

  • Muhammad Omer on July 15, 2008, 8:01 GMT

    I've strong belief that this chapter of history is over, well there is only person to blame that is himself no one else can help you if you choose to be stubborn & keep repeating the same things over & over.. I guess in the last Champions Trophy the ban should have held by the board & more proactive actions should have been taken to ensure that no more further involvement of such nature should occur. I guess at every level of PCB is answerable for this happening. with this kind of disgrace to the country & cricketing body Chairman cricket board should be gentleman enough to at least resign at this point. If he wants to remain in the position & he thinks as its not him to blame for this incident , I must say that can only bring more disgrace. As far as I could see there is no hope of light that things are gonna change. Asif shouldn't be left off once again & the management at top level of PCB should be removed as soon as possible. Ex-Players should be involved more to help cricket

  • Adil on July 15, 2008, 7:58 GMT

    Well i suggest that Mr. Nasim Ashraf should be fired as Chairman of PCB bcoz he has brought only problems and pathetic decisions for Pakistani Cricket. The case of Asif is due to his ignorance and unfair preference over Shoaib Akhtar. Why Abdur Razak has been left out of team...only because Dr. Nasim Ashraf don't like him...he was dropped from T20 world cup by saying he doesn't suit the context of the game whereas he was Man of the Series in ICL.

    Dr. Nasim Ashraf please don't play with Pakistani Cricket....i suggest you should even not watch matches on tv as you don't have respect for the game and your selfish decisions have taken Pakistan on a level where Bangladesh is standing.

    What do u all guys think about my comments

  • Dushyant on July 15, 2008, 7:55 GMT

    First, to those blaming India—c'mon guys, get real! The fact that this is Asif's third incident would surely indicate that there's a greater problem here. As an Indian fan, I have always respected Pakistani cricket for players like Wasim, Waqar, Anwar, Sohail, etc., who were always brilliant. Their contests always made good viewing, irrespective of the opposition. Of late, all that surrounds Pakistani cricket is, unfortunately, controversy. Be it these doping issues, the political influences, chucking, tampering, captaincy, whatever... For how long will the PCB blame others for the problems that exist? Clean up your act guys, coz you'll are fast losing credibility as a board, what with the crazy administration and the maverick, unpredictable players.

  • Gautam, Mumbai, India on July 15, 2008, 7:55 GMT

    beginning of the end for Pakistan Cricket? Please let it not be this way for a Glorious Cricketing Nation. This is clearly more than an administrative issue or one isolated to Asif and Akhtar. Feel there is an urgent need to look at the grass root level and eliminate weeds very early on. Drugs must be flowing ever more freely at the univ and domestic leagues. If Asif gets away this time what sort of impression will it create on the minds of all his young fans in Pakistan? Ask only this... what message do we want to convey to the world, to Pakistan and its future cricketers? Inzaman is old school huh? look whose crying now??

  • Sanaullah Khan on July 15, 2008, 7:48 GMT

    This is the third time that Mohd Asif is found guilty of using or having drugs. This is not good for our country Pakistan & in my opinion Mohd Asif should be banned for life as no matter how bigger any one is there is no one bigger than the country proud.

  • Masum Dad Khan on July 15, 2008, 7:45 GMT

    I am not shocked. Anyone following Pakistan cricket would get shock proof watching the repeated self destructive activities of the Pakistani cricketers. Leniencies shown by the Pakistan Board time and again to it's indiscplined cricketers have made them believe that they can get away with any crime.

  • Arun Joseph on July 15, 2008, 7:42 GMT

    mvent - Grow up please. I would have preferred if you had more sympathy for the loss of a very talented cricketer than look for conspiracy theories. I hope and pray that we will see a clean Asif back in action as he was note the past tense!) one of the best bowlers in the world during the short time he did play.

  • Hamza on July 15, 2008, 7:40 GMT

    To be honest, it is Pakistan cricket that needs to be banned from international cricket before ICC even thinks about banning Zimbabwe. PCB's ineptness and incompetence is blatantly observable in the way they've handled and bungled issues for years now. Most Pakistani cricketers lack a moral sense of code. Punitive action is necessary if an evil is to be rooted out from a system. Unfortunately, verbal admonishments bear no meaning for such reckless individuals as Shoaib and Asif. As a Pakistani, i'm ashamed and hope that the matter will be handled by any governing body OTHER THAN PCB so that punitive action is guaranteed. Secondly, since PCB as a whole has been a failure; i believe all boards should strictly reprimand PCB to get its act together otherwise they would be kicked out from the member boards. I can't imagine how nasim ashraf can sit in ICCs meetings. I suppose since ICC itself is a dysfunctional body with each member having its weak points, they can't do that - too bad.

  • Kartik on July 15, 2008, 7:36 GMT

    @mvent

    Please stop accusing India for anything that goes wrong in Pakistan. I fell out of chair laughing when I saw Asif, Drugs and Indian Secret Service in the same paragraph. Please note that the IPL had a strict code of conduct and banned India's bowling star Harbhajan Singh not just from the IPL, but also from International cricket for his indiscipline. The BCCI could well have said that the IPL is just a domestic tournament and Harbhajan doesn't warrant a ban from the international arena. As for the drug tests, please note that it was conducted in Switzerland by a WADA approved laboratory. WADA is a worldwide body covering all major sports and is as neutral as neutral gets. If Australia could drop Shane Warne for failing a drug test on the eve of their World Cup defense in 2003 and put their whole campaign in jeopardy, the PCB should pull up its socks and get its act together to prevent such obviously talented players from tarnishing the image of their team and the game.

  • Tariq Hussain on July 15, 2008, 7:35 GMT

    Hi, Shame on Asif for all the stupid things he has done. From the moment he started his career i could see it in his eyes that fame wasn't far from getting to his head. We talk about players not being educated? Im sure he is a muslim, if so, then he should know his boundaries.

  • Javed on July 15, 2008, 7:33 GMT

    I believe the whole blame goes to Pakistan cricket board.The PCB didn't take any measures after Asif and Shoaib failed the dope test a year ago.The players are their to play cricket and management to look after such things.It is the responsibility of the management to check every medicine taken by any player doesn't contain any banned drug.

  • Javed on July 15, 2008, 7:31 GMT

    I believe the whole blame goes to Pakistan cricket board.The PCB didn't take any measures after Asif and Shoaib failed the dope test a year ago.The players are their to play cricket and management to look after such things.It is the responsibility of the management to check every medicine taken by any player doesn't contain any banned drug.

  • roshan on July 15, 2008, 7:27 GMT

    If asifs B sample tests positive, then asif should definately be banned without any scope for an appeal, may not be a life ban but atleast a 1-year ban. The problem is that the PCB is not managed in the right way and every time a player strays, he is allowed to appeal and with the exception of Salim malik and Ata-ur-rehman, every single player has been let go scot free. This kind of attitute only encourages young players to do these kind of mistakes. Almost every player with potential has had issues and the board has failed every single time to eradicate these issues, be it younis, yusuf, afridi, shoaib or asif. No wonder great talents like musthaq ahmed, saqlain, waqar, imran nazir, abdur razzak and saeed anwar have had end their international careers before time.

  • Vijayendra on July 15, 2008, 7:24 GMT

    @ mvent

    Wishful thinking my dear mvent.

    It just goes on to show that you and thousands of other Pakistani fans *still* don't believe Asif actually did it. Well son, here's breaking news: Asif has done it yet again.

    Let's assume *Indians*, like you claim, did it in Dubai and in the IPL. However, Mr. Sherlock Mvent Holmes what do you make of the 2006 incident? I hope you remember it was in Pakistan and it was the PCB which caught him with Shoiab Akhtar in the dope scandal ahead of the Champions Trophy.

    I am waiting for your ground-breaking discovery.

    Take my word.

  • Nadeem Shahzad on July 15, 2008, 7:23 GMT

    There will come a time when you will be ashamed of even supporting your own country in sporting events. Especially cricket, it disgusts me to see a board running things the way they are and none to challenge their credibility. Till Nashim Ashraf the looser he is stays in as the damn Chairman you can forget about Pakistan Cricket ever developing, and now if it wasnt enough ACC has asked him to run a muck for the whole of Asia. As Far as Asif goes, someone get rid of him and Shoaib and move on, our pride is more important than having Cheats and Druggies Represent Pakistan. I'd prefer young talents trying their best on the field and loosing than winning with doped up superstars.

  • ISHTIAQUE on July 15, 2008, 7:21 GMT

    Its a tragic event. With dubious past records, I dont see any wayout for Asif. One can not say drugs use in cricket is purely a Pakistani affairs as there is a number of non-Pakistani drug cheaters in criket; notably, Shane Warne, who had served his punishment. But in Pakistan two very high profile players are involved so the incident catches lot of attention. Also PCB made a mess in 2006 in giving punishments to Asif and Shoaib. Here I suddenly give a suggestion, which may sound irrelivant. PCB must ensure that the all the Pakistani players at least speak reasonable English after playing a few years for the nation. It will solve half the problem. Think over my suggestions. It was pathetic to see Inzamam could not speak english even after playing 15 years and touring all worldwide.

  • Joe on July 15, 2008, 7:18 GMT

    I do not agree with Mr. Mvent comment claiming that India is behind this issue. It was PCB who found before Champions Trophy that ASIF is using banned substance.

  • Bedoon Esam on July 15, 2008, 7:16 GMT

    @ mvent....

    For the likes of Asif you don't need the Indian Secret Service to destroy them, and for that matter why only him, Pakistani players have visited India quiet often in the recent past and the same applies to Indian players visiting Pakistan, both countries have treated the players fairly and fans on both sides of the border have given them tremendous support. If the Indian secret service had to be involved they might as well jeopardize the whole team or at least 3-4 key players why only this fool. And by the way educate yourself these tests are conducted by independent international ICC appointed agencies who control the whole process from sample collection to testing and reporting

  • Nas on July 15, 2008, 7:14 GMT

    The comments of Mvent (blaming india) are interesting. They show the mentality of the Pakistani people... nothing is ever their fault, its all a conspiracy!

    If the Indians were behind this, why didnt they do it to a player that matters (like Brett Lee?).

    Asif was a good swing bowler, but lets not get carried away here... he wasnt that good....

    I am sick of hearing about the potential of Pakistan, and their players... Hows about converting that potential into RESULTS. (I suppose thats the hard part...)

    Anyhow, I don't really have any sympathy for Asif, and he should be banned for life. PCB should take some responsibility and put some procedures in place so this doesn't happen to the next villager that they pick from "tape Ball" cricket in the streets...

    Boma

  • sushant on July 15, 2008, 7:13 GMT

    Well, all this has been pulled to the extent of being broken. First, ICC should take complete responsibilty for all drug cases. Now the confusion of who should make the tribunal, either the indian board or pakistan board, is the last straw which breaks the camel`s back. The talks of PCB acting hard is like talking with a black wall which is responseless. The statements such as ``Playing for my country is a pride`` or ``Prestige comes first`` are all proverbial. Pakistan board keeps jumping from frying pan into the fire all the time. PCB wants to run pakistan cricket in musharraf style management. And now for asif, this is the third time he is found guilty of drugs. I could not believe a cricketer of asif calibre can go into things of these sorts and end his career before shoaib. Any cricketer who is found guilty should straight away be banned from all sorts of game. After all its just a game and tampering with rules should be strictly prohibited. Promises are like pie crust.

  • GG on July 15, 2008, 7:13 GMT

    Mvent - It is sad to read your comments. When can people like you learn to rise above petty differences. India has nothing to do with Asif or his isuues. He is a good player gone completely off the deep end.

    Please do us a favour and dont involve your political views with cricket. Spreading hate is not the point of cricket.

  • Rimtu on July 15, 2008, 7:10 GMT

    You can blame Asif all you want, but the truth is he's a superstar. I am sure his performance after his debut test did not get him into drugs. However, since his return, he's been able to do such magic with the ball, that his head started heating up. He needed to diminish some of that magic to be viable as a human being. All of you are acting shocked at his actions. Name one genius who did not make at least one attempt at destroying it all. I have not seen a better bowler than Asif, bowling for Pakistan. PCB should do their best to ensure Asif comes through this, and keeps his drugs problem in check. My theory on Asif's problems, is that he turns to supplements to cure himself quicker than normal. That's what happened in the first incident with Shoaib, he was out injured and made quick recovery. This time he was once again benched for injury and had to make quick recovery. I also wonder if the supplement really can work magic in terms of recovering from injury, why not legalize it?

  • srivathsan on July 15, 2008, 6:45 GMT

    I fully agree with you.I could feel the emotion with which you have penned this thread.Indeed it is sad that a player of asif's calibre need to do this .I would like to sympathise with PCB as they tried to save the honour of the country & hence played down the earlier episode with a hope that these players learn their lessons.But it was not to be.I would also like to tell some fellow bloggers who have linked Indian govt. in to this as absurd & remove aany such thought forthwith.Govt. here may not even know which country ,the team is playing & where.The very fact that IPL did not announce the name earlier was perhaps to support PCB .Unfortunately , the media leak forced them to do so.Otherwise ,this might not have come to light.So friends please donot develop negative thoughts & let me assure you that BCCI & PCB are having best of relations in the interest of people of both the countries.

  • Fazal Hadi on July 15, 2008, 6:38 GMT

    Most of the Pakistani starts specially shoaib & Asif (Shoaib better to be in Bollywood rather than Pakistan team) has always this problem to be in the skies 2 early, they feel safe and sound, feel protective so the can do anything they want,over confidence, you can't call them professionals because they make so many mistakes on/off the feild. Asif got away in Dubai case with the help of Mr. Nasim Ashraf, who forwarded his case to the Education Minister in UAE and the case was sorted out but till how long can he survive......

  • Ahmad on July 15, 2008, 6:37 GMT

    This is the thrid time, he's tested positive. He must be banned for ever. Why is he trying to be innocent?

  • Mianjee on July 15, 2008, 6:36 GMT

    It is a shame and it is high time that We must say Good bye to the Following: 1- Mohd. Asif 2- Nasim Ashraf 3- Nagmi of PCB I think a hardcore cricketer for example Amir Sohail should fix PCB like he did the selection process when he was chief selector. We the people of Pakistan do not support cheats or any one who brings disgrace to the nation. PCB should leave Asif's fate in the hands of WADA/ICC/BCCI. Mr. Nasim should resign immediately or else we will kick his Butt to vanish into the Abyss where me came from. So President Mush must let go of his pal ASAP. Enough is enough.

  • kushal on July 15, 2008, 6:34 GMT

    it really hurts when u see a talented bowler like asif getting caught in series of career threatnig controversies one after another.when we take at glance at history we will see that pakistan always had world best fast bowling talent and every generation nurtured and guided the nxt lke imran mentored akram and waqar but i think these two cudnt continued this tradition thats why we see talents like akhtar.sami,asif.......getting wasted. it is hard to belive thats pcb doesn't know the situation,these series of incident indicate that all the malpractices are going on at domestic level itself. politics in pcb or cricket team in not unknown to every one,this makes the situation very complicated thats why a simple things also get complicated.......... i pray to god that pcb should take the situation here itself otherwise this time it is asif and nxt will be some other.

  • Faisal on July 15, 2008, 6:33 GMT

    MR. Kamran, if you are so grunted with what PCB has done, then why dont you do something material to counter it rather than just sitting and commenting.... Everyone criticises, but no one work for it.. its better keeping quiet if you dont have the ability to change it.... why dont we find problems within ourselves before seeing problem of others.... Just what Ricky ponting said "Pull up or Shut up".......... AT times i get the feeling that your article is written just for the sake of your own fame. It rarely consists anything material or any strong evidence or any solutions...

  • Venkat on July 15, 2008, 6:33 GMT

    To mvent - I had a good laugh at your comment. Dubai or Saudi is well-known for handling drug offenders in a tough manner irrespective of nationalities caste or creed(Its no Pakistan or India boss). Asif should consider himself luckly to be out of Jail. The IPL tests were conducted in WADA approved labs as per the regulations of WADA. Now if you think WADA is controlled by Indian intelligence agencies(like RAW), you may as well think that George Bush or Musharaff or for that matter Bhutto is on the payrolls of RAW. The first Test that was conducted on Asif was also in an WADA authorized testing center.

    So Moral of the story is Please grow up and understand that Asif is either incredibly stupid or an unrepentent serial offender. Either way, if proved guilty now, he deserves nothing less than the BOOT. Let him go play cricket in his backyard or maybe in the compound of the neighbourhood Jail.

  • Moses, India on July 15, 2008, 6:32 GMT

    Kamran Abbasi's article on Asif has been excellent. He always talk straight and with sense. It is high time PCB should act in a professional way. It is a pity that a good player like Asif goes this way due to lack of non-guidance by the concerned authorities. When I saw Asif bowling first time, I thought he is the next Mcgrath. His lenghth was so immaculate and great bowling action. But unfortunately fame brings also indiscipline for some players. I am sure it may be due to lack of knowledge on the drugs that he has consumed. Once he found guily he should have been doubly careful and also proper counselling should have been given to them. Any major punishment for him by the PCB is a great loss to cricket. Let us pray to GOD that he realises his ignorance and come out with success.

    One of the readers, Mvent has written that it will be preplanned act of Indians. It is regrettable that it is being given a different colour and I am sure, Indian officials will never do this.

  • sm on July 15, 2008, 6:27 GMT

    Read Mr. Mvents & Mr. Abassi's comments with great interest. Mr. Mvent- I dont think India's exists to compete and put down Pakistan. India is a democracy with institutions which have principles , and very strong values, and no Indian institution would even dream to do such a thing.

    To Mr. Abassi- Agree with your comments . Asif in another drug controversy is a big blow for all cricket lovers. He definitely is the most talented swing bowler after the likes of Imran Khan and Wasim Akram

  • amjad on July 15, 2008, 6:24 GMT

    i was wondering how long it would be before all this was seen as an Indian Conspiracy?...Why is it that we, Pakistan, do not look to our shortcomings first before blaming someone else - that sounds like the policy of the PCB. Is it surprising that it was Asif who failed the drug test? He was caught in Dubai on the way back from the IPL with an illicit substance - and if all the stories are to be believed, he lived the "high" life in the IPL and probably "inhaled" - so it must have been in his system. I think this is not so much a 3rd time default on Asif's part, but rather a drawn out 2nd time with the Dubai incident and IPL failed test as one and the same. What to do now? Best to give him a 12 month ban (minimum), as discipline must be seen to be done - he is young enough to come back from this and you never know, during the 12 month ban he may actually learn to read and write and therefore no longer have the fallback option of a "poor education" - we live in hope.

  • ahsan on July 15, 2008, 6:21 GMT

    i wish and hope that we dont hear about losers like, Afridi, Shoaib, Asif, Akmal, Malik, Waseem Akram and all those who have brought shame to country. Enough is Enough!!!

  • Peter on July 15, 2008, 6:14 GMT

    mvent, dude wake up and smell the coffee. I can't believe that you can even suggest that some tried to "set up" Asif. Come on man lets be honest here, the guy is a liability. The banned substances issue before the world cup, arrested in Dubai and now the drug test. Where there's smoke there's fire, and in Asif's case there's not only smoke there an inferno. In fact your comment sounds like something the PCB may try to come up with, are you sure you aren't their PR man? Guys like Asif, Akhtar, Gibbs and co consistently screw up and should be tossed.

  • Rahul on July 15, 2008, 6:09 GMT

    So, the cat is out of bag & how! If he is guilty, then it's a shame for us fans, the fallen & PCB. Boy, how could do it with the Eagle watching all over ur head. Now, PCB has to hide its face bcoz it's them who have been saving him & Mr. Akhtar all time. Really Sir, PCB lacks discipline in & out. May be the dearth of decent fast/swing bowlers is making PCB protecting its scandalous kids, but now it seems that Asif & Akhtar are in some sort of 'Who sabotaged his career first' race. Mr. Imran khan & Mr. Waseem Akram managed their career with grace & we fans always adore them, but these young crops have learned nothing. PCB needs to act hard & give them some counseling. Pakistan was flag bearer of fast bowling in Asia, but now its all gone.

  • BRS on July 15, 2008, 6:09 GMT

    This is tragic. I so wanted to believe Asif was clean the first 2 times. The first time I saw him bowl and knock down the stumps of Shewag, VVS, et al, I thought "wow, here is a bowler to watch for the next decade". And this comes from an Indian fan. what a waste :(

  • jamil on July 15, 2008, 6:08 GMT

    totally agree with you,these bad boys were handled with tender love by our board because they thought they were indispensable.now they will face the realities of real world which will be not so caring .considering his previous history i would say devious Mohammad Asif.The only thing we,ll found about you on Google search will be this doping scandal and unfortunately a life ban,by the way you made the whole nation sad and shameful.Please don't blame your rural background and lack of education,this will only insult our people who are a lot smarter than you. May god show you the right way

  • John on July 15, 2008, 6:07 GMT

    I say assign a nanny to each young and upcoming Pakistani cricketer. That should do it as there is no personal responsibility by the cricketer

  • Vikas on July 15, 2008, 6:01 GMT

    Mohammed Asif ,an awesomely gifted fast bowler has been derailed all due to his own foolish demeanors.It could only be a wish to think for a cricket lover of what a Mohammed Asif could do with a cricket ball when he fulfills his vast potential and comes out as finished product. Though it is not be and the PCB has done nothing to stop this free fall .It is not too difficult to spot that unprofessional ism ,petty mindedness ,lack or clarity ,internal bickering's and cunning politics are rife in the PCB.Well it is easy to blame Asif but had anybody bothered to check the decline of Abdur Razzaq ,the withering of a Saqlain Mustaq.Surely they weren't into drugs. The drug scandal is just a fillip that has helped to bring the highlight the mismanagement by the PCB.It is easy to blame the foolish actions of a carried away young man while he is just a reflection of a system that is rife with unprofessional.

  • Awal Baadsha on July 15, 2008, 6:00 GMT

    I rather Pakistan loose its matches than use these ignorant arrogant fools. If PCB thinks that they will loose the cream of the crop if they take any stern action against these players then I am willing to change my parents nationality too. I have been playing cricket on small level for years and as a player I know my role and responsibilities but here give me a break, they want us to believe that he didn't know what pill he was popping and what he was carrying in his wallet, common, get real.

  • Mustansir Mukhi on July 15, 2008, 5:53 GMT

    God riddens to bad rubbish! It was merely a matter of time before Asif was involved in yet another controversy. I think it's high time PCB shows nerves of steel and leaves Asif on his own to settle his fate with WADA/BCCI. PCB has been too lenient and soft with its 'star' brats and they have taken PCB for a miserable right throughout their careers. We need to set an example of intolerance when it comes to damaging the company's image and prestige. The country itself is undergoing a depressing phase politically and economically and the only relief for the people is sports. We, the people of Pakistan need to stand up and own up to our actions and work together in moving the country forward.

    Good bye Asif! A shining start turned into a disappointing star who never was!

  • Sridhar on July 15, 2008, 5:48 GMT

    As an Indian, but also as a supporter of Pakistani Cricket, it saddens me to see Pak Cricket to move from one crisis to another. The past 18 months or so have been horrible and the event list is too long to name. The damage to Pakistan's reputation has been terrible. I sincerely pray and hope that Pakistan is able to restore their image in the international arena and more importantly, they show what they can achieve on the cricket field - which they once did in 1992 by winning the world cup.

  • Salman Khan on July 15, 2008, 5:39 GMT

    Asif has again brought shame on Pakistan cricket. For me and many would agree, it does not matter now how many wickets, hat tricks he takes now. He will always be a cheat and nothing more. PCB is to blame for shielding him in a most pathetic manner when he was caught the first time. Had he been dealt with severely then, we probably would not be faced with such a crises. I see no hope for Asif and want to see him banished forever from cricket, a potential unfulfilled. I am in no doubt that Asif will come up with another convenient lie as he did when caught in Dubai. "A hakeem gave me this medicine". PCB is giving him millions and he goes to hakeems for medical. This time maybe a Bengali Jadoogar is responsible for his trials. Does he take us for a fool? Please do not insult our intelligence.

    Cricket would definitely be better off without the likes of him.

  • dreamweaver on July 15, 2008, 5:38 GMT

    Asif is unbelievably stupid.Even if his B sample mysteriously turns out ok,he has been protected far too long for his illiteracy and stupidity by a cynical board. His talent is genuine,could have blossomed to greatness, but its time he was brought to book and for keeps.

  • Apoorv Tiwari on July 15, 2008, 5:29 GMT

    The first thing that comes to mind after Asif has been accused of taking drugs for the third time now, is that he surely must be guilty. As Mr. Abbasi points out, Asif must be 'incredibly stupid and ignorant' otherwise. The chances of him being victimized and targeted by an external force are also very remote. It is therefore, high time the PCB does something about this 'spoilt brat' of theirs and set a precedent that may just mark a paradigm shift in the perspective with which this business is viewed by the cricketing fraternity. Perhaps, it is just such a step that could restore some of the respect and honor which the PCB has lost in the past few years.

  • Kiwi Wonder on July 15, 2008, 5:18 GMT

    Truth is always bound to come out sooner or later , no matter how much anyone tries to hide it. Caught doping before 2006 Champions trophy ,the PCB twisted facts and managed to both bowlers free by feigning injuries during WC2007 ,so as not let them fall in WADA trap. PCB used political pressure to get him off the hook in Dubai. Now IPL and in India..lets see what game PCB plays to get him free this time. As for those fans who stood on their roofs shouting that this was a conspiracy to malign Pakistan, wake up guys. You still think he is innocent and being framed. Three different countries have caught him doping and he escaped being caught in WI during WC2007. Long back Danny Morrision had expressed his doubts over the Pakistanis doping....Guess truth is coming out......No wonder ever since neutral umpires came into the international arena ,Pakistanis win ratio fell drastically. Similarly moment WADA introduced doping tests,... Paki fast bowlers reduced in numbers and speed dramatically.

  • Swami on July 15, 2008, 5:14 GMT

    Everyone associated with Pakistan cricket seems to be an uncontrollable loose cannon. Be it administrators making ad-hoc decisions and flexing their muscles, ex-cricketers/journalists making highly provocative comments, players infighting, selectors imposing their whims without logic, drug abuse, faking injuries, corruption .. its staggering. Unless intrinsically the society changes towards greater personal self-discipline, I cant see significant changes coming through in Pakistan cricket setup as well. Cricket is only a projection of normal life in the country.

  • Omar Ehtesham on July 15, 2008, 5:10 GMT

    Well, what can we say? This bright star, a potential superstar of Pakistani pace attack has been the center of attention for both, the astounding bowling as well as some matters pertaining to off-field. What's wrong? Either's indeed not realizing the gravity of the wrong he's done in the past or indeed he's insane as Mr. Abbasi has mentioned above. However, I won't point fingers completely at him: remember, its Pakistan we are talking about and being a citizen of her, anythings possible. The factor of 'unpredictable' outweighs all other stances. 1) Someone's playing with his career, 2) He, himself is to blame entirely, 3) It's India that brought up the issue; our nemesis till End of Times, among others. I guess we have to see how our boards i.e. PCB, ICC, WADA, etc deal with this one. Mind you, the management is hypothesized to be politic-laden, fame hungry, and of course, acting like puppets on occasions we think they a positive change has come. Sad, but then again we're used to it

  • AHSAN MUHAMMAD on July 15, 2008, 5:06 GMT

    Asif must be banned for life and same for shoaib, they both are just degrading Pakistan.Pakistan have lot more good Players just need to polish them and u will see there are lot more players who are better than these two.Dr.Naseem Ashraf or Mr.DAN also should leave PCB. Then hopefully good result ..............

  • Saad Siddiqui on July 15, 2008, 5:06 GMT

    YES, Pakistan Board is entirely responsible for: not educating, not administrating and finally making a mockery when it came to judgment. If PCB invests Million Dollars on infrastructure then why cant they spend some hundred to do routine laboratory tests of Pakistan squad, throughout the year. Why PCB waits for IPL or ICC to give such news in media and bring utmost fame to country? Secondly, the prestige of Pakistan is more important than losing the world's best swing bowler (Asif), there cant be any second opinion. Suppose if PCB doesn't impose ban on Asif then all fast bowlers in the country will cherish taking illegal drugs. Asif should be handed a "benchmark" punishment that could send down shivers in other aspiring cricketers in the country.

  • Zakiya on July 15, 2008, 5:05 GMT

    I don't what does asif mean by him saying am innocent and seems that he is surprised by that news. Its so clear that he is literally into all these drug items. Repeatedly getting into into drug nets shows that he is no innocent. But Pakistan board management also has got a part to be blamed. he had escaped last 2 times without any charges but a thief cannot keep doing what has been doing through out his life one day he'll be caught so as now Asif the same. He is caught. I hope such cases should be handled quite severely by ICC and Pakistan board so that such insults to a great team doesn't occur at least in the near future.

  • Kumar on July 15, 2008, 4:59 GMT

    Asif's first incident was almost pardonable - after all he came from an illiterate background. A repeat offender? He deserves no more sympathy and should be banned for life.

    Even the Indian board was disciplined when it found Azhar and Jadeja guilty of the match-fixing scandals. Much as I used to love these guys, I am proud that BCCI didn't give in to pressure and temptations and let them play again. I hope PCB shows similar rigor in keeping these cheats out of cricket for life.

  • Ayaz F. Farooqi on July 15, 2008, 4:38 GMT

    Indeed another well-written article by Dr. Karman Abbasi. While I agree with most of what he has written and Asif is not an untouchable holy cow, but somehow I feel we should not completely disregard the Indian element in this whole crisis-like situation. We should not forget that almost all our recent controversies were initially 'revealed' by the Indian media, and surely they waste no opportunity to malign Pakistan Cricket and its cricketers. There is no doubt we are the masters in shooting ourselves at the feet but the rivalary with India is too intense and historical conflicts too deeply embedded to ignore this particular aspect. Before Asif is shoved into oblivion for good, we need to investigate this matter and PCB, contrary to its present position, must use all its resources to get to the root of this issue. We should also rethink the present policy of allowing our precious cricketing talent to play in a domestic Indian tournament, because the stakes are indeed too high for us.

  • cric-fanatic on July 15, 2008, 4:34 GMT

    Mohammad Asif has now brought shame once again to Paksitan cricket. A potential great bowler he might be... but not a great sportsman anymore. Its about time the PCB ban him for Life before anymore shame is brought upon Pakistan. they need to set an example for future cricketers.

  • Indiancricketfan on July 15, 2008, 4:29 GMT

    I agree with Kamran..PCB is a failure...and its a vicious cycle..its getting into...Asif should be given a hard punishment..

  • Naseer on July 15, 2008, 4:28 GMT

    outright reality, but I don't know what is wrong with M. Asif, why he can't get out of controversies, why is he following bad example set by Shoib, why he does not realize that Shoib is a self-spoiled talent, whether PCB can be blamed or not, but my question is why these players commit such horrific activities, are they brainless, why they don't look at other hundreds of players in the world, who are more famous, great stars, legends, but there is no scandal or whatsoever associated with them, you call M. Asif and Shoib "stars" they are totally flops, by taking a few wickets they are not going to fall in category of stars, they will have to be professional, enthusiastic, vigorously hardworking, consistent, clean-character if they really want to wear the shoes of a star, both these names have become rampant threat to the reputation and integrity of the entire nation globally, the govt. should come forward and take concrete steps against them, and not to allow them represent Pak anymore

  • Ashfaq Shah on July 15, 2008, 4:02 GMT

    That last paragraph hits you like a brick. I think it is now inevitable that Asif will not be seen in near future.

  • Swami on July 15, 2008, 4:02 GMT

    Everyone associated with Pakistan cricket seems to be an uncontrollable loose cannon. Be it administrators making ad-hoc decisions and flexing their muscles, ex-cricketers/journalists making highly provocative comments, players infighting, selectors imposing their whims without logic, drug abuse, faking injuries, corruption .. its staggering. Unless instrinsically the society changes towards greater personal self-discipline, I cant see significant changes coming through in Pakistan cricket setup as well. Cricket is only a projection of normal life in the country.

  • Bilal Javed on July 15, 2008, 3:33 GMT

    Unfortunately, the prevalent corrupt system in Pakistan allows people to break the laws at will. It goes without saying that no matter how you look at it, Asif has himself to be blamed for and NO ONE else. He has been playing international cricket for over three years now. How childishly he says that he is innocent and this all is a drama to defame him. I think its about time to shred off these lunatics out of Pakistan cricket team. If they care less about their career and indulge in such stupidity, they do not deserve to be even called Pakistanis. What a disgrace? An absolute waste of talent.

  • Jamsheer on July 15, 2008, 3:32 GMT

    Stupid, stupid, stupid! A brilliant talent wasted. Shame on you Asif. But, it will hardly surprise me if he pleads innocence, gets banned, appeals against the ban, and is back playing cricket in 6 months time. Rule of law and strength of character have no meaning any more. Heck, if our politicians can do it, then why not mere cricketers?

  • Vikas Srimal on July 15, 2008, 3:32 GMT

    It's such a pity! Such a promising young career, so cruelly self-immolated. I don't think playing for Pakistan wasn't sufficient motive for Asif - I just think he's incredibly stupid, howsoever trivial that might sound.

  • Jibran on July 15, 2008, 3:32 GMT

    Well he is young and stupid, banning him for couple of years would server him well. This is the second time it has happened and he should at least be ban for a year, with his contract void. Given they are properly groomed, Pakistan has too much talent when it comes to bowling. What makes these idiots think that Pakistan's bowling depends on them.

  • Usman Moorad on July 15, 2008, 3:20 GMT

    Sad sad case really, but the stupidity of asif getting in trouble 3 times? Especially after he barely survived the first case? A very serious judgment is due here, he needs to be punished. I think its time Asif/Akhtar duo dreams are forgotten let the kids come in and gain some valuable experience.

  • Mike on July 15, 2008, 3:16 GMT

    If Asif bowls another cricket ball either in International or Domestic cricket, the drug policy of the PCB, the ICC, and WADA would be looked on as a complete joke. He's done everything possible to ensure his career ends immediately in disgrace.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if he sheds a few tears and the PCB treat him with kiddy gloves once again. Their position has already been shown to be a farce twice in the last month. I guess there are different rule for players that the team needs.

  • Nafis Ahmad on July 15, 2008, 3:06 GMT

    Although, I feel for these players - Asif and Shoaib, who are unfortunate to enter Pakistan Cricket at a time when no leader was around to nurture them, and more importantly, to keep them in line, I do feel that they bear more responsibility for their actions than their board. It is now the consionable duty of the Pakistan board to ban Mohammad Asif for life. Hard it will be, but Pkistan Cricket is bigger than a couple of misguided souls. More important is the sense of responsiblity and pride that should be instilled in the players who aspire to don on the Pakistani cap. We need to part ways with these characters for the sakes of all the future hard-working, honest and discplined cricketers, dreaming to represent their country.

  • Jawad on July 15, 2008, 2:47 GMT

    Well,Asif has only himself to blame for this.He was let off the hook shamelessly by the PCB in the past but now he has had it.This should effectively be the end of his career for the good of Pakistan cricket.But I also believe that Pakistans and PCB,s corrupt system will ensure that he is back in action in a few months citing bloody ignorance as a reason. Unfortunately,Asif did not need drugs to enhance performance as he had a low maintenance run up and body concentrating more on line and swing.He has to be ultra stupid to use it. Pakistan cricket management has always set bad precedents.I remember when Wasim and Waqar were cought puffing pot in the Carribean,they were let off the hook easily.Time and again players have been placed before principles. Sooner or later another disgrace by the name of Shoaib Akhter will be back in the squad due to some 'loop holes' in the system. If Asifs B sample tests positive then he should be banned for LIFE.

  • ZAIN_TORONTO on July 15, 2008, 2:43 GMT

    LET HIM GO!!!I'm short on words. This kid is a moron!We will do ok without him,yes we needed him but...he's got issues in his head.How can ANYONE be soo stupid.It's one thing to be uneducated and completely another to be mindless and lacking basic common sense,even the uneducated people in villages of Pakistan know not to play with fire especially if you've been burnt already.As much as we are lacking in superstars we have plenty of depth when it comes to good players that can carry Pakistan cricket through hardwork & determination and just wait it out till the next big thing arrives.Sure we will become an OK team with an OK record but right now that'll be a blessing,its better to be that then be known as CHEATS and losers.

  • mvent on July 15, 2008, 0:47 GMT

    One day after PCB decided that it won't allow its players to take part in the next IPL season if it coincides with Australia's rescheduled visit to the country next year, IPL released Asif's positive results. Not to mention that he was previously found guilty in India. And, also at Dubai Airport where 95% of the working staff is Indian!

    Is it just coincidence? Every time when issue like this comes, India is involved in it. What if the Indian mixed something in his food there, and he even did not know it?

    We have seen the involvement of Indian secret service agents in much complicated cases to damage the cause and respect of Pakistan. It must be the simplest one for them.

    It would be better for Pakistani players traveling to India in future, get tested at home first before departure, to compare the results and to make sure that indeed they are dirty or is it someone else?

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  • mvent on July 15, 2008, 0:47 GMT

    One day after PCB decided that it won't allow its players to take part in the next IPL season if it coincides with Australia's rescheduled visit to the country next year, IPL released Asif's positive results. Not to mention that he was previously found guilty in India. And, also at Dubai Airport where 95% of the working staff is Indian!

    Is it just coincidence? Every time when issue like this comes, India is involved in it. What if the Indian mixed something in his food there, and he even did not know it?

    We have seen the involvement of Indian secret service agents in much complicated cases to damage the cause and respect of Pakistan. It must be the simplest one for them.

    It would be better for Pakistani players traveling to India in future, get tested at home first before departure, to compare the results and to make sure that indeed they are dirty or is it someone else?

  • ZAIN_TORONTO on July 15, 2008, 2:43 GMT

    LET HIM GO!!!I'm short on words. This kid is a moron!We will do ok without him,yes we needed him but...he's got issues in his head.How can ANYONE be soo stupid.It's one thing to be uneducated and completely another to be mindless and lacking basic common sense,even the uneducated people in villages of Pakistan know not to play with fire especially if you've been burnt already.As much as we are lacking in superstars we have plenty of depth when it comes to good players that can carry Pakistan cricket through hardwork & determination and just wait it out till the next big thing arrives.Sure we will become an OK team with an OK record but right now that'll be a blessing,its better to be that then be known as CHEATS and losers.

  • Jawad on July 15, 2008, 2:47 GMT

    Well,Asif has only himself to blame for this.He was let off the hook shamelessly by the PCB in the past but now he has had it.This should effectively be the end of his career for the good of Pakistan cricket.But I also believe that Pakistans and PCB,s corrupt system will ensure that he is back in action in a few months citing bloody ignorance as a reason. Unfortunately,Asif did not need drugs to enhance performance as he had a low maintenance run up and body concentrating more on line and swing.He has to be ultra stupid to use it. Pakistan cricket management has always set bad precedents.I remember when Wasim and Waqar were cought puffing pot in the Carribean,they were let off the hook easily.Time and again players have been placed before principles. Sooner or later another disgrace by the name of Shoaib Akhter will be back in the squad due to some 'loop holes' in the system. If Asifs B sample tests positive then he should be banned for LIFE.

  • Nafis Ahmad on July 15, 2008, 3:06 GMT

    Although, I feel for these players - Asif and Shoaib, who are unfortunate to enter Pakistan Cricket at a time when no leader was around to nurture them, and more importantly, to keep them in line, I do feel that they bear more responsibility for their actions than their board. It is now the consionable duty of the Pakistan board to ban Mohammad Asif for life. Hard it will be, but Pkistan Cricket is bigger than a couple of misguided souls. More important is the sense of responsiblity and pride that should be instilled in the players who aspire to don on the Pakistani cap. We need to part ways with these characters for the sakes of all the future hard-working, honest and discplined cricketers, dreaming to represent their country.

  • Mike on July 15, 2008, 3:16 GMT

    If Asif bowls another cricket ball either in International or Domestic cricket, the drug policy of the PCB, the ICC, and WADA would be looked on as a complete joke. He's done everything possible to ensure his career ends immediately in disgrace.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if he sheds a few tears and the PCB treat him with kiddy gloves once again. Their position has already been shown to be a farce twice in the last month. I guess there are different rule for players that the team needs.

  • Usman Moorad on July 15, 2008, 3:20 GMT

    Sad sad case really, but the stupidity of asif getting in trouble 3 times? Especially after he barely survived the first case? A very serious judgment is due here, he needs to be punished. I think its time Asif/Akhtar duo dreams are forgotten let the kids come in and gain some valuable experience.

  • Jibran on July 15, 2008, 3:32 GMT

    Well he is young and stupid, banning him for couple of years would server him well. This is the second time it has happened and he should at least be ban for a year, with his contract void. Given they are properly groomed, Pakistan has too much talent when it comes to bowling. What makes these idiots think that Pakistan's bowling depends on them.

  • Vikas Srimal on July 15, 2008, 3:32 GMT

    It's such a pity! Such a promising young career, so cruelly self-immolated. I don't think playing for Pakistan wasn't sufficient motive for Asif - I just think he's incredibly stupid, howsoever trivial that might sound.

  • Jamsheer on July 15, 2008, 3:32 GMT

    Stupid, stupid, stupid! A brilliant talent wasted. Shame on you Asif. But, it will hardly surprise me if he pleads innocence, gets banned, appeals against the ban, and is back playing cricket in 6 months time. Rule of law and strength of character have no meaning any more. Heck, if our politicians can do it, then why not mere cricketers?

  • Bilal Javed on July 15, 2008, 3:33 GMT

    Unfortunately, the prevalent corrupt system in Pakistan allows people to break the laws at will. It goes without saying that no matter how you look at it, Asif has himself to be blamed for and NO ONE else. He has been playing international cricket for over three years now. How childishly he says that he is innocent and this all is a drama to defame him. I think its about time to shred off these lunatics out of Pakistan cricket team. If they care less about their career and indulge in such stupidity, they do not deserve to be even called Pakistanis. What a disgrace? An absolute waste of talent.