England v India, 5th ODI, Cardiff September 17, 2011

'Never seen so many injuries'

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In the end it felt somewhat ridiculous to face MS Dhoni. To sit in front of a proud man, who went 10 matches without a win, in three different formats, during the last two months in England. To ask questions of a man who had seen incredibly ten of his players get injured including two - Praveen Kumar and Munaf Patel - on the eve of, and during the final match of the series? What could he really say that had not been said before? Yet within six months after becoming World Champions, India have slid to No. 5 five in the ICC ODI rankings. And so Dhoni faced the media scrutiny for one last time on a tour that he admitted he would never forget.

"I have never seen so many injuries in the last five years. To lose nine to eleven players in one series is something I can never forget," Dhoni said at the post-match conference. Praveen, his best bowler on the tour, had picked an ankle injury while playing football on Thursday afternoon. And about 24 hours later Munaf, India's senior-most bowler in the game, slipped on the wet outfield, badly injuring his ankle. India started the summer with Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma leading their bowling attack. They finished it with relying on part-timers like Virat Kohli being forced to fill their boots.

Unfortunately for the Indian bowlers, despite having a good score to defend, they were handicapped by the combined forces of an incessant mild drizzle, and dew which made it difficult to grip the ball. At the time Munaf got injured, the game still hung in balance with England needing a further 139 runs from the remaining 17 overs. "Munaf got injured and we had to bowl his remaining four overs by someone else. Virat bowled well but his last over was expensive. We lost five tosses and we bowled second in nearly the same conditions, which were wet and that made it tough for our spinners," Dhoni said.

Unlike England who had the luxury of playing five specialist fast bowlers across the summer and blooding young talent like Jade Dernbach, in addition to possessing a formidable group of allrounders, Dhoni was forced to manage resources that depleted after every match. The frailty of his bowling attack only added pressure on the batting order, which featured just three of the players from the World Cup team.

"We had a tough series and lost quite badly. Being a team sport you need to do well in all three departments and you can't really carry the team for a consistent period of time just on one department. Playing with three bowlers in these conditions was tough to manoeuvre," Dhoni said.

Yet all is not lost. The most heartening facet about the youngsters, some who were called up at short notice and forced to play hours after landing in England, was their positive attitude and openness. "They are up for a fight," Dhoni said. "Each time they turn up on a field, whether for a practice session or a game, they want to give their best, they love challenges and that makes it interesting for me. You do not have to motivate them. You can then put in that effort in some other areas. We lost a few games due to the weather not [being] on our side, luck not [being on our] side, but it is not about thinking too much about things not in our control. Am glad to see the team has reacted in a similar fashion."

Kohli is a good example of this grit and determination of the new generation of Indian players, who are hungry and willing to work hard despite all the easy riches that have come their way through the IPL. Today Kohli, often criticised in the past for his temperament and a loud lifestyle outside cricket, showed the maturity to stand up and deliver when it mattered for his team. It was a matter of pride for him, and India, that he was the solitary centurion on both sides in the one-day series. Many times during the summer, England's players have highlighted the advantages of a happy dressing room. Despites various setbacks the Indians have shown willingness to learn from, and, contribute to the success of their teammates. They also have been fortunate to be led by an individual who believes in keeping things simple, and does not get swayed by the swinging fortunes of victory and defeat.

For 66 days Dhoni's captaincy came under the most severe scrutiny. England had beaten India on the field and in the mind. There was never a moment in the series when England appeared within reach. Yet Dhoni kept going even as his most trusted generals and lieutenants started falling one after the other. In the end he finished as the Man of the Series in the five-match ODI series. It was the fifth time in his career he had earned this honour, the only difference this being it was the first time it had come in defeat.

On Friday Dhoni was asked if the series would have taken a different course for the Indians, who fly back home early Saturday morning empty-handed, if they had cashed in on the openings that came their way during England's first innings in the first two Tests at Lord's and then Trent Bridge. "What is important is what you did exactly when the opportunity came your way," Dhoni said. "I have always believed it is not about sulking as to what could have been done. It is more often about what actually went wrong."

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on September 20, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    pound for pound,indian is the best team but has the worst fitness.

  • RandyOZ on September 19, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    Never seen so many injuries, never seen so many excuses

  • PadamHCL on September 19, 2011, 8:17 GMT

    Don't worry Dhoni, they are coming to India with many of their main Players will not be there with injury (Broad,Morgan,list will go on.....) and by that time we will be with our full strength......show them that we are real world champions....all Indian are with you

  • on September 19, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    this tour has been unlucky for india in odi but palyed horribly in test but my respect for ms dhoni has just increased along with rahul dravid only two fighters they did watever they could dhoni-played with sore fingers bowled ,tried his best with bat spoke with respect show respet to game dravid -opened played odi and t20 wicket keeped tried watever he could dhoni and dravid rocks

  • Aussasinator on September 19, 2011, 5:47 GMT

    I also feel harbhajan's injury was faked. He was running away.

  • on September 18, 2011, 23:08 GMT

    It is exceedingly hard to imagine a champion team fare so badly in any sports. The incessant loss for two months has recalibrated Indian cricket into a damage control mode for several years.

  • Shan156 on September 18, 2011, 21:04 GMT

    @hira02,

    Sharma? You mean, Rohit Sharma? What did you do with the bat in this series? He played a ball or two before getting injured, didn't he? He, and the others you mentioned, might develop into a fine batsman but it is hard to replace once-in-a-generation players like Dravid and Tendulkar. Let's see how it pans out but I think India's glory days as a test team is over for now - they will enter a rebuilding phase. They have the batting talent but how they prioritize tests, ODIs and T20s will determine how they fare in tests over the next decade. Also, they need to find some decent bowlers very soon.

  • HarishVS on September 18, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    @Rahul_78 - completely true of you. Dhoni need to be lauded for his courage and composure. Losing 11 players, all 4 tests and not able to win any single ODI and to be on the wrong side of the toss and weather and luck and whatever factor that impacts cricket, I think Dhoni deserves praise. He has got bruised fingers and back problems and hence not able to keep well sometimes. We should excuse him if any lapse behind the wickets. It is not fair on the part of our fans to criticise Dhoni as if it was solely responsible to lose this series. Some of his (or the team tank) selection was not worth mentioning, but still it can be ignored as not much would have impacted even if selected Varun Aorun or anyone else, as England completely outplayed us in all departments of the game. I wish Dhoni and his team all the best in future and overcome this adversity and come off in flying colours in the forthcoming series.

  • No_BS on September 18, 2011, 17:14 GMT

    @henchart - well said. I fear that is exactly how it is hoing to pan out.

  • Lord_Dravid on September 18, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    @shan156 ..yes its not englands fault india had soo many injuries but dunno why england are all europhic beating india A :S ..and have u not seen our young talented batsmen in this series and elsewhere such as rahane..kohli..sharma etc..they just need to gain abit more experience then they can replace tenduklar dravid laxman in a couple of years time even tho nobody around the world can replace a tendular or a dravid but who knows our kohli and co might become the next world batting giants:) ..love rahane's class uff!

  • on September 20, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    pound for pound,indian is the best team but has the worst fitness.

  • RandyOZ on September 19, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    Never seen so many injuries, never seen so many excuses

  • PadamHCL on September 19, 2011, 8:17 GMT

    Don't worry Dhoni, they are coming to India with many of their main Players will not be there with injury (Broad,Morgan,list will go on.....) and by that time we will be with our full strength......show them that we are real world champions....all Indian are with you

  • on September 19, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    this tour has been unlucky for india in odi but palyed horribly in test but my respect for ms dhoni has just increased along with rahul dravid only two fighters they did watever they could dhoni-played with sore fingers bowled ,tried his best with bat spoke with respect show respet to game dravid -opened played odi and t20 wicket keeped tried watever he could dhoni and dravid rocks

  • Aussasinator on September 19, 2011, 5:47 GMT

    I also feel harbhajan's injury was faked. He was running away.

  • on September 18, 2011, 23:08 GMT

    It is exceedingly hard to imagine a champion team fare so badly in any sports. The incessant loss for two months has recalibrated Indian cricket into a damage control mode for several years.

  • Shan156 on September 18, 2011, 21:04 GMT

    @hira02,

    Sharma? You mean, Rohit Sharma? What did you do with the bat in this series? He played a ball or two before getting injured, didn't he? He, and the others you mentioned, might develop into a fine batsman but it is hard to replace once-in-a-generation players like Dravid and Tendulkar. Let's see how it pans out but I think India's glory days as a test team is over for now - they will enter a rebuilding phase. They have the batting talent but how they prioritize tests, ODIs and T20s will determine how they fare in tests over the next decade. Also, they need to find some decent bowlers very soon.

  • HarishVS on September 18, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    @Rahul_78 - completely true of you. Dhoni need to be lauded for his courage and composure. Losing 11 players, all 4 tests and not able to win any single ODI and to be on the wrong side of the toss and weather and luck and whatever factor that impacts cricket, I think Dhoni deserves praise. He has got bruised fingers and back problems and hence not able to keep well sometimes. We should excuse him if any lapse behind the wickets. It is not fair on the part of our fans to criticise Dhoni as if it was solely responsible to lose this series. Some of his (or the team tank) selection was not worth mentioning, but still it can be ignored as not much would have impacted even if selected Varun Aorun or anyone else, as England completely outplayed us in all departments of the game. I wish Dhoni and his team all the best in future and overcome this adversity and come off in flying colours in the forthcoming series.

  • No_BS on September 18, 2011, 17:14 GMT

    @henchart - well said. I fear that is exactly how it is hoing to pan out.

  • Lord_Dravid on September 18, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    @shan156 ..yes its not englands fault india had soo many injuries but dunno why england are all europhic beating india A :S ..and have u not seen our young talented batsmen in this series and elsewhere such as rahane..kohli..sharma etc..they just need to gain abit more experience then they can replace tenduklar dravid laxman in a couple of years time even tho nobody around the world can replace a tendular or a dravid but who knows our kohli and co might become the next world batting giants:) ..love rahane's class uff!

  • henchart on September 18, 2011, 12:11 GMT

    Some of the injuries were cooked up. Harbhajan 'got 'injured expecting green tracks at Edgbaston and Oval besides preparing adequately with some rest for Champions league .Worst scenario would be Harbhajan being allowed to simply walk balk into the side but unfortunately that is what is going to happen! Maestro Tendulkar would do yeoman service to Indian cricket by calling it quits in ODIs ,atleast.But folks few myopic wins on flat tracks against Eng and WI,all would be forgiven before a sound thrashing in Aus brings us back to square one of lamentation of Indian cricket affairs.

  • on September 18, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    I want to know who the fitness coach for India is - Mr Bean? The Marquis de Sade? They should protect the Indians better - I mean, it's not like there's another half a billion Indian men out there to chose from...!!

  • on September 18, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    wasim raja it is not fair to judge aaron on his first class record. You also have to look at the mans talent. He did exceedingly well in emerging players tournaments in australia and even in the local vizay hazare trophy . It is possible that he might fail but atleast one would do justice to his selection by giving him a chance. Lastly he has the PACE. PACE is important….one may not bowl at 160 Mphs but ideally a fast bowler should bowl at 140's. ..that is precisley the reason why praveen kumar and munaf patel can at the best be support bowlers. Even Glen Macgratch bowled at 135+ and extracted good bounce from his high arm action. PACE is important and aaron has it.

  • chiggers on September 18, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    @DocBindra - 'enjoy the wand (and the fictitious title that comes with it)'; that would be the 'wand' that most Indian fans were brandishing at the England fans when their team arrived on these shores, and the 'fictitious title' that they were happy to attach to virtually everything that they posted, would it? Isn't it strange how they suddenly change once you have lost them...

  • peterss on September 18, 2011, 7:02 GMT

    3/4 of them were not real injuries! All made up in order to save their face from the thrashing. Epic example was Harbhajan Singh who is now RARING to play in the CLT20

  • Aussasinator on September 18, 2011, 6:33 GMT

    Hard decisions have to taken when confronted with highly paid cricketetrs who are not professional. Zaheer, Sreesanth and Munaf Patel have to be bid good bye in the interest of Indian cricket. The Varun Aarons and Umesh Yadavs and several other rookies need to be blooded on the big stage before they lose their venom. There is no certainty that the seniors will not get injured again, going by their track record of carrying or hiding injuries. Since India is losing anyway, it is better to do so in a rebuilding exercise. India lost an opportunity already by not playing Aaron in at least two ODIs in England.

  • AidanFX on September 18, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    In AFL have you hear of the Fremantle Dockers? Now that is an injury hit side, either way injuries is often indicative of a lack of preparation, lack of fitness and other factors. Injuries explain some degree of understanding why you were smashed by Eng left right and centre but you can't afford to stay in that place. Injuries will happen, mostly bad luck but when it becomes as lengthy as you've experienced there is blame there somewhere. You guys need to address the lack of fitness and inadequate conditioning. Maybe some players may have to choose between their nation and IPL. At the end of the day (aside from injuries) Eng were too strong. India needs to spend time on seeing how they can become a better cricket team, and a fitter one at that.

  • Rahul_78 on September 18, 2011, 4:26 GMT

    Life has completed a full circle not only for Dhoni and his men but for Indian fans as well. After climbing mount Everest and wining world cup and then crashing back to the deep valley of white wash to England, It has provided a fantastic reality check to the players and fans as well. But all through the adversity Dhoni kept the smile on his face intact and kept himself fit physically and mentally. Indian team is in hand of a able leader and I am sure it will bounce back..as fans we need to keep the faith in our men as we celebrated the success of world cup..we need to take this loss on our chin and move on. In the end this is a sport, a better team won and nobody died.

  • m_ilind on September 18, 2011, 4:17 GMT

    Never seen such a thrashing either!

  • jazee on September 18, 2011, 4:01 GMT

    I am glad that India were fit for ICC WC. If India could gain at least 6 players before the England tour to India in Oct then they are able to take the series and even the score. India should go back to Eng in near future and win a series to put Eng back in low ranking.

  • peteurite on September 18, 2011, 3:13 GMT

    @nampally,@docbindra, totally agree with you,there is somthing or some reason,against these rookies? There should be a rule ,that from 14 team members ,each players should get a chance to play atleast one game????????C'MON MAN........

  • on September 18, 2011, 2:54 GMT

    For all those who talk about giving Varun Aaron a chance, have you got a chance to look at his first class record? if you compare the first class records of Varun, Vinay, Rp you can see the difference. And his tour game was also pathetic. MSD would have judged him in nets too and it is all about fielding the best 11 and not fielding a person just because he is in the squad.

  • on September 18, 2011, 1:35 GMT

    in the last ODI, even if India had all the the first choice batsmen and had scored more than 350, the bowling unit we had fielded could not have defended even that total! We need a first rate bowling UNIT -- not just ONE Zahir Khan or a Zahir Khan equivalent.

  • on September 18, 2011, 1:26 GMT

    The surprise element was always a great differentiator for Dhoni. Be it changing the batting order during world cup finals or handing over the ball to Joginder Sharma to bowl the final over of T20 to numerous changes in batting order, bowling changes, numerous field placements. He has dared the unknown, the unconventional and made it work.Surprising the opponent is the strength. It is difficult to do it every time. There are bound to be some lean phases in between. He should take them in his stride and relive his own cycle of success. Read more on http://vivekvaidya.com/index.php/2011/09/dhoni-and-his-cycle-of-success/

  • KGSudhakar on September 18, 2011, 0:15 GMT

    The Only reason for all this issue is IPL...Indian Players, go ahead and play more IPL and Champion league game and we will go worst than West Indies in another two years... This is the starting of Downfall for Dhoni...That too if trio (Sachin, Dravid, Laxman) goes out of the test team it will be super test team....

  • DocBindra on September 18, 2011, 0:14 GMT

    Thank God this tour is over, if I didn't know any better, one would think this sporting series was IT and the only thing that made this world go. Firstly, credit where its due...Well played England, you deserve to be the top test side, enjoy the wand (and the fictitious title that comes with it). REMEMBER, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GO FROM HERE...DOWN. Regardless of what the distractors would suggest, this was a very close ODI series period. Cook got to dictate the terms the entire ODI series because of winning all the toss and thus, getting the best of the conditions, most evident during the last match. Only someone who has actually taken the field can appreciate that, rest is just jargon. Rahane, Kohli, Ashwin are the future, Aaron not getting a chance was a HUGE mistake. Hopefully, Jadeja is starting to mature into a true all rounder. Vinay is a run of the mill and why he played 5 matches is beyond me. Green top bullies had their say, PLZ don't complain when tables are turned.

  • Nampally on September 17, 2011, 23:41 GMT

    @Shan156:Yes, England has beaten the test as well as the ODI teams that India played with.Indian players & its Managers should take the full blame for their lack of physical & mental fitness - lack of preparation.As for the future of the Indian team, there are plenty of batsmen in waiting but the Selectors & Dhoni do not seem to encourage talented NEW bowlers. Unadkat & Umesh Jadev were in a couple of squads but never got included in XI to play. Aeron was in the England squad but served the drinks for 5 ODI's.Ojha was available but rejected.Rahul Sharma is an excellent leg spinner ideally suited for English pitches, but he does not even appear on the horizon. The Selectors & Dhoni need to bring these youngster in the side when needis great. Dhoni moans constantly about the lack of bowling but he is the architect of this problem.India needs bowlers urgently - now. The above mentioned bowlers may be inexperienced but they will do lot better than RP, Vinay & Munaf @ 8 runs/over!.

  • VEXXZ on September 17, 2011, 22:13 GMT

    They say Test cricket is on the decline with spectator attendance so the ICC give Countries 2 test series . But you will NEVER see a 2 test series between ENGLAND vs AUSTRALIA............NEVER.

  • Nampally on September 17, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    MSD, what you are saying is absolutely true. India played with no wicket taking bowlers after superb dispaly of batting by Dravid, Kohli & Dhoni.Vinay Kumar is not an international & RP has already been shelved. Jadeja is better bat than a bowler.With Munaf injured only Ashwin was the solo bowler. My question to Dhoni is why did he not press for Ojha for the 3,4,5 ODI's? Ojha bowled superbly for Surrey with 6 for ---, twice. Why did Dhoni not use Aeron even if he has little experience? He would be 100 times keener than RP & Vinay. So Dhoni himself rejecting 2 possible choices.Also when he had a choice to ask for reinforcements duwe to injuries he did not ask for Rahul Sharma, who would have been superb on these English wickets?So Dhoni is the architect of his problems. Even bringing Kumble out from his retirement was a better choice than what India had.Fast bowlers like umesh Jadev, Unadkat were rejecting even before a fair trial, how can India develop any bowlers?

  • on September 17, 2011, 21:02 GMT

    Even with a full strength Indian team with no injuries, the results would've been more or less the same. Lets face it India does not have the ability to play swinging ball and nor the balling firepower to get England out. Lets face the facts and stop whining about injuries and what went wrong.

  • Shan156 on September 17, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    @hira02, it is, for sure, not England's fault. England have beaten the team put in front of them handsomely. To some extent, it is the player's fault. Injuries are part and parcel of the game but the players should do their best to keep themselves fit; not bask in your glory and develop a paunch (Zaheer).

    In a few years, many of the big guns (Tendulkar, Zaheer, Bhajan) would have retired but India would still have the talent to win more ODI games at home and a few away. It is test matches they should worry about. Who is going to replace the triumvirate of Dravid, SRT and Laxman and who is going to take the wickets when Khan has retired?

    Re: next month's ODI series in India, you got to tag India as overwhelming favorites to win the series at least 4-1. India's possible XI Sehwag, SRT, Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Praveen, Ashwin/Nehra/Munaf could quite possibly be ranked among the best ODI XI ever, especially at home. Hoewver,England would fight hard

  • on September 17, 2011, 20:57 GMT

    Indian players are fit for IPL only. In all other matches they get injuered..... :@

  • willmot on September 17, 2011, 20:19 GMT

    Nowhere near good enough, no more needs to be said.

  • bigdhonifan on September 17, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    We have no worry! we have so many talents, much more than around the world! We just need to improve on our man management and selection!! we will be back! GO INDIA GO!!!! Jai Hind!

  • sanjanapc on September 17, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    Its obvious that while we have a good bit of bench strength in terms of batsmen, bowling department is lacking far behind. Its good that India lost the series the way they did as this has exposed the cracks in the Indian cricket on the whole. Since now the cracks are open, which were perhaps being overlooked earlier due to the successful streaks, it will be possible to at least fill them up.

    The cricket board has to device a strategy to build a healthy bench strength for both bowlers as well as batsmen. Once Zaheer, Ishant and Harbhajan become fit again, there might be a tendency to become complacent once again. However, now we have to learn our lessons and move in the right direction.

  • PatrioticIndian on September 17, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    Nobody is 100% perfect in this world. Whoever has commented on Indian cricketers, try to become a international cricketer.....rather than just typing your views. Otherwise do your office work properly......consistently everytime.

    Bossssssssssssssssssssssssssss ! Cricket is a game.....

    Last time when England toured they lost all the 6 months in a row......now they win matched in a row. That's the beauty of this game.

    Congrats to England cricketers. Well played. India will easily bounce back......let's focus on our attitude and work.

  • Lord_Dravid on September 17, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    @5wombats..whose fault was that the players were unfit and werent given much practice and preparation? whose fault was it that they were unfortunate to have soo many injuries? india played well in south africa to draw the series and would've won the series if it wasnt for one of their main man kallis in the final test..india players are good enough dont blame them..blame the factors beyond their control..

  • on September 17, 2011, 18:24 GMT

    Poor performances through out this summer. Everyone is to be blamed here. Never in this tour bowlers peaked at the right time together. In first two test, England were one time, 1 down for 120 odd, but still there was no support from any other bowler and when our two bowlers who made life worse for England batters got tired, they posted a respectable target. Our Batters did not perform good at all. Dhoni was the worst keeper/Batter i saw in recent times, in Indian team. In ODIs Bowlers were too bad.Weather played spoilsport too and on top of everything Mr. Cool was so cool that he could not see, where runs are being scored from. Suggestions:1) Draft Dinesh Karthik immediately in test arena and kick on Dhoni's back as DK is Far more accomplished batter than Dhoni is and a good Keeper too. He performed well in SA and Eng in 2007 too.2)Rahane, Rohit and Cheteshwar Pujara should be drafted in Tests3)Irfan, Utthappa should be called for ODIs.4)Play Varun and groom some other express bowlers

  • MaruthuDelft on September 17, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    What young talent? I think only Kohli is a reliable bet. Raina is serious but somehow he is such a vulnerable player. Parthiv too doesn't have the gas to perform well over a series. Rahane's technique doesn't allow swithcing off and on comfortably so he too won't be good throughout a series or even can't make a hundred. Aaron no one knows. Ishant not reliable. India will decline. MS Dhoni's popularity and leadership will inspire local incomplete styled cricketers like Praveen Kumar(no full arm swing hence no pace), Ashwin(not an orthodox spinner)..India cricket is doomed. MS Dhoni must be sacked first. All half bred bowlers ignored. Unorthoxy must not be encouraged even if it is in the calibre of Sehwag

  • KarachiKid on September 17, 2011, 17:44 GMT

    Pretty convenient for everybody at the helm to balme it on injuries. Whereas injuries to so many players is itself reflective of lack of quality/standard and also wrong strategy of playing IPL et al. Once Zaheer Khan starts declining, it will be very tough for country whose fans are brought up worshipping likes of Gavaskars, Tendulkars and Sehwags, mostly on flat pitches at home (more than 50% of the matches are in sub-continent anyways). Under these circumstances, very very hard to find bowlers of Zaheer Khan's caliber. Likes of Bhajji and Kumble can only be partially successful in Australia/SA/EnglandAnd mind you even Zaheer discovered his true quality in his second reincarnation.

  • 5wombats on September 17, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    Well I'm impressed @serious-am-i - you are finally talking sense. You are dead right to send India's talents to play in different conditions and pitches. This is why Zaheer Khan is a useful guy - he played for Surrey and Worcestershire and he learned how to do everything here in England. But the big BIG problem for india and for all huge cricket devotees is that many Indian players turned up in England UNFIT for Test cricket. It deprived us of watching the great sport played by masters on both sides - only one master showing on Indian side = Dravid. No others for India. I said it many many times in my posts throughout the tour. The indian muscles were not right, the tummies were showing, and worst of all - in some heads - the mind not right. Even Laxman was saying the tour of England was "not the toughest", and so he returned to India with an average of 23 in 8 Innings; silly boy - he should have kept quiet, not insulted himself and his sport. Many other indian "greats" did likewise:-(

  • serious-am-i on September 17, 2011, 16:45 GMT

    Now let us get the things straight. Indians have lost that's past, now let us try to groom in young fast bowlers and probably send them to Australia or England to play in their counties to improve their skills. If these guys continue playing in India, we will have a bunch of another 120km bowlers for the next decade. Its time to act fast, proper talent picking and manage properly if at all we want a decent bowler. I still wonder why was Aaron wasn't given a single match ? Was he kept as a secret weapon to be unleashed at some other series as a big surprise ? Amen !!

  • wolf777 on September 17, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    MSD, the problem is that you did not learn from the Lord's mistake. India has made a habit of going into test matches with only four bowlers and no allrounder to back up pace bowlers. Clearly, you were ahead in the first session; and, then Zack got injured leaving you a bowler short. With only two pace bowlers and a solitary spinner, you are lucky if you get a draw. You had England on the mat again, in the second test and then your bowlers got tired and you ran out of variation in the attack when Broad and Swann got used to the bowling. Hope you go into the next test with four bowlers and an allrouder in the Irfan Pathan mode. That will give you an extra bowling option and keep your fast bowlers fresh. Of course, you will have fast bowlers injury free for longer time because of less workload.

  • aarpee2 on September 17, 2011, 15:41 GMT

    Lowlights of the tour 1.W/K Dhoni bowling 8 overs on the first day of the first test.ABSURD 2.Sachin's failure to come in at No3 right through the series and face the music when the team needed him most. 3.Bhajji's atttiude and poor form. 4.Raina clueless especially in the fourth test even against spin. 4.All bowlers barring Praveen going for an avg of 4+ per over. 5.Playing members in eleven who were obviously not match fit. 6.RP's inclusion in the eleven. 7.Poor keeping and tactics from the skipper. 8.SAHA-Why was he selected and not tried. Die-hard fans of the team are deeply saddened by the turn of events.

  • RogerC on September 17, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Kudos to Dhoni for maintaining dignity throughout the series where nothing went right for him. Even the weather Gods were in favour of England. Hope Dhoni comes stronger after this experience. Look at how Clive Lloyd transformed his team after a miserable series in Australia in 1975.

  • kas211 on September 17, 2011, 15:06 GMT

    The bowling throughout this tour has been poor. Vinay Kumar, Munaf Patel and RP Singh are extremely mediocre bowlers. Its quite clear that apart from Zaheer and Ishant India do not have good pace bowlers. I feel as though India should have given a chance to Varun Aaron in this last match, just to see how he bowls in the international arena. I am very doubtful he'll get a chance any time soon.

  • TestIP on September 17, 2011, 15:06 GMT

    STOPmakinf excusesfor the white washes...INDIAN selection panel should be removed....stop playing all these medium pacers who cannot bowl. Stop hiding the real talanted bowlers. Where is Ashish Nerha and Irfan Pathan? Stop pushing munaf patel and RP singh...both of these guys are medium pacers and not match winners.India lost both the test and ODI because none of their bowlers were troubling any batsmen except for praveen kuman. Felt sorry for the poor guy alone bowling. Why are the pushing Ashwin infront of Yusuf Pathan...atleast yusuf can bowl and bat. Indian needs to go back to the drawing board...cricket games cannot be won based on batting only.

  • on September 17, 2011, 14:45 GMT

    Let's England team come to India.

  • on September 17, 2011, 14:37 GMT

    At the end of the day; the bowlers of India were not good enough.The injuries were too much to handle. People are forgetting the players who are injured: Sehwag, Gambhir, Rohit Sharma, Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh, Ishant Sharma ,Zaheer Khan, Praveen Kumar, Zaheer Khan. It is almost like India was playing with a second string team but even if the players were fit after injury; there had no match practise. Therefore; there was no guarantee of form. The fast bowlers were not good enough - I am suprised why even Vinay Kumar is even taken - he is a hit me bowler. Varun AAron, Ojha were definitely missed. Ojha is in greatest form of his life in county cricket right now. Mishra also has lost orm during the tour.

  • on September 17, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    Team India - you did not even last for us to enjoy the status of world cup champions. you let us down. But if you are interested only in playing IPL and 20-20, can we please stop playing ODI. It is horrible to watch.

  • umeshkuttan on September 17, 2011, 14:26 GMT

    Indian Players will come back in Champions League with 100% Fitness

  • AggersRocks on September 17, 2011, 14:17 GMT

    @ Rajeev129 - a little harsh I suspect. In the absence of a transcript of the whole press conference, it is impossible to know whether he gave credit to the opposition or not. Given this is an article about the high number of injuries, we should not be surprised that the quotes from Dhoni focus on those injuries and not on the quality of the opponents.

  • on September 17, 2011, 13:59 GMT

    Harbhajan announcing himself "fully fit" so soon, even before the last rites of a miserable series are performed, and expressing his readines to play in the Champions trophy, takes me back to the day he became "unfit" during the series. Anyone remember (there was a photograph in Cricinfo site, too) -- He demonstrating his side strain in the field, not while bowling; not while trying to stop/catch a ball...,but standing just outside the inner ring -- stretching sideways and showing his discomfort to one and all. May be genuine, but, in the new self announced development, I am feeling a little squeezy! Add to that, his recent transformation from a reliable bowler who can bat into a "reliable" batsman who can perhaps bow ...I am not sure... I think time has come to blood in Ashwin as our first choice spinner, in all three forms. Incidentally, he can also bat; and willing to develop more variations to his bowling armory. And willing to try & adapt to unfavorable conditions...Attn: Binny

  • Nampally on September 17, 2011, 13:44 GMT

    It was sad & disappointing to see India white washed in both the test & ODI series. Tough to play with a make shift bunch of players in conditions 100% different from those in India. Even with a fully fit regular side it is tough. But when 8 of the regulars are missing injured, it totally disturbs the team chemistry besides making the new comers uncomfortable as well. Many English fans have attacked the Indian team to be mediocre & waste of time. But if the same fate striked England team in a foreign land I would like to see how they perform.Anyway it is the end of a nightmarish tour. Now is the time to correct the mistakes - 1. Team Selection 2.Physical fitness 3. Strengthen bowling and improve fielding & catching.India has talent even in bowling but questionable team selection eliminated optimal players. e.g., Why was Jadeja preferred to "in form" OJha- as a bowler?Aeron flown in but Vinay played instead!.Finally, Ban soccer playing by cricketers totally. It is crazy & stupid.

  • Rajeev129 on September 17, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    This is what Mr. Dhoni !!!!! Simply defending the defeat by throwing the blame on injuries and without giving any credit to the opposition team. He should change his mentality, if not now atleast after couple of series defeats like this in future.

  • on September 17, 2011, 13:22 GMT

    english fans don't demean indian injured players.in worldcup many of ur players got injured then what fitness u hav.injuries happen don't make fun of the pain.

  • AjaySridharan on September 17, 2011, 13:21 GMT

    Injury is an excuse only when it happens on the field of play like how it happened for Rohit Sharma and Munaf. Every other injury was the result of lack of fitness and laziness of the players. The youngsters should feel ashamed looking at Rahul Dravid...at 38 yrs of age, he carried the battle alone and show no signs of tiring or injuries! I agree with what one reader has written...Dhoni is a brainy captain, in that he is good at marshaling his troops and getting the best out of what he has got. But he lacks big time when it comes to spotting and nurturing talent...he is not in the same league as Ganguly when it comes to that. Why would you fly in Varun Aaron and not play him?...instead playing RP Singh who seemed to display the attitude of a guy still vacationing in Miami. He must have felt that he was doing the team a favor by canceling his vacation.

  • nitiinjain on September 17, 2011, 13:02 GMT

    Dhoni still sounds positive even after this huge loss, he is surely the best captain we could have got, under these condition's leading a 2nd string Indian team on such a long tour without him missing a single game, shows his fitness and the desire to do well. He takes pride in his performance, and I have not a single shred of doubt that he will be able to make a turn-around very shortly. A disappointing series for India but things will turn around for the better. India are the World Champions, and even champions stumble at times, Looking forward to England in India where atleast we can have 50-50 matches and not extended 20-20 matches.

  • on September 17, 2011, 12:53 GMT

    ONE WORD MSD ....IPL....just get rid of it ..guys i thing somebody needs to make two pages on Facebook..one who suport IPL and one who dont ..get the voting and send it to the world and BCCI...i think may be its gonna be me...

  • gyrase on September 17, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    I would not like to see these new ball bowlers again playing for India. Let them play whatever league they choose to make money but I would not like the see manuf ,rp singh, Vinay kumar and any other like them who have no speed ,no control ,no consistency, no passion,and no commitment . it was frustrating to see them the way they were bowling.They were not even looking even good for domestic cricket.

  • Mariakutty on September 17, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    "Varun Arun" is the find of England tour. New drinks boy.

  • CricketChat on September 17, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Finally, India's misery is over. Can't imagine anyone other than Eng team enjoying these type of one sided performances. Ind can now start working on their next phase of team development by phasing out old tired bodies with new players, starting with their captain.

  • arvin on September 17, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    zaheer khan was injured but pretended to be fit to be part of the team... yuvraaj/sehwag/ishant ... faked injury for fear of failure... bhajji/rohit sharma ... faked injury for fear of failure and to rest for cl 20/20... gambhir... faked injury to rest for cl 20/20... and same story will be repeated on tour of australia...

  • kevinpp24 on September 17, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    He just said "Its tough with 3 bowlers in these conditions", man! if there is any place in the world to play only three bowlers then its England. It would have been disaster if that happened in SC or Australia with all the flat tracks. England lost Andersen(attack leader) in the 1st test vs SL but others did a good job to fold them for 82. If that was draw I'm sure Strauss wouldve said "we lost Andersen", but the thing is other bowlers are capable enough to win them the match individually which is what India lacks. So accept that your bowlers apart from Zaheer was useless and this is the perfect time to give lots of opportunities to try some youngsters but they kept on playing the same failed bowlers.

  • on September 17, 2011, 12:00 GMT

    For WORLD CHAMPIONS he is not an coach and Less knowledge of physiotherapy ,fitness Trainers. He can give thousands of reasons let him leave the partiality.

  • Raj2506 on September 17, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    Winning and Loosing is a part, and this is not permanent, so stop this blame game

  • Tabrez_22 on September 17, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    To be true, yes it was an embarrassing tour of INDIA and a huge defeat of INDIA after a long time. Two reasons of this unfortunate series: 1) Lack of fit players in the Indian team & ordinary bowlers. 2) Bunch of very talented young English players who knows how to utilize home condition.

    The only thing that saddens me of this tournament was a complete(season) whitewash under the captainship of the Mr. Brainy(MS Dhoni). He might be the only captain who have won all Big Leagues and International Tournaments he captained and tasted a whitewash. Really feels sad for this Mr. Brainy. Still I have the faith that Mr. Brainy will overshadow this unfortunate season in future series. Wish you luck for future Mr. Brainy,

  • kevinpp24 on September 17, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    @ petercook, No, Dhoni is not the best captain, Ganguly will always be the best captain. Ganguly introduced lot of players after shambles which includes sehwag, zaheer, harbhajan, yuvraj and lot more. Dhoni just had the luck of these players playing at their peak under him. Most of the players he introduced were useless, which just shows he didn't give a thing about future or dont have any idea about whats going in domestic cricket. I was really amazed with Ganguly's cricket knowledge he even knows whats happening between Bangladesh and Zim.

  • timelord24 on September 17, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    not a single journalist asked dhoni as to why varun arron was not given a chance even after the series was lost. like sunny gavaskar says there must be some disconnect between the selection committee members in england and the members back home.

  • on September 17, 2011, 11:22 GMT

    again same story by MSD.Wt about IPL?

  • BobcatCatbob on September 17, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    The Indians only have themselves to blame for the injuries. It's obvious just by looking at some of them that they're not fit enough. It's also very apparent that the Indians simply don't fancy playing England... they take a slight knock, and they're on the first plane home, never to be seen again. Where's the fighting spirit?? Sucked out of them by the IPL perhaps...

  • suzyparker on September 17, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    India were just not up for the fight. Plain and simple.

  • on September 17, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    One thing sure...India will win if there are good fit players. Captancy doesn't matter. Azhar,Ganguly,Kumble ..etc. proved it when they had good fit players.

  • abhijeet1in on September 17, 2011, 10:59 GMT

    "Today Kohli, often criticised in the past for his temperament and a loud lifestyle outside cricket, showed the maturity to stand up and deliver when it mattered for his team." Way to create fake superstars! Kohli failed in 5 previous matches, not counting the worthless performance in tests in West Indies. Today he got a century against what is pretty much an England C bowling lineup on the flattest pitch in the tour. This was a 350 pitch. After 4 years in the national team he and other so called young guns in India are still the little baby of the team. I am afraid this trend is going to continue when India tours outside subcontinent. In this series there were no winners in Indian team, doesn't matter how many centuries they score or how gritty people think they are.

  • EmjayKhan104 on September 17, 2011, 10:49 GMT

    Excuses,excuses and more excuses thats all India MSD and BCCI are doing, with this bowling attack, even with the inclusion on Zaheer, Ishant and Bhajji, India's opposition will chase down even 350. I think India need to blood some youngsters who can bowl 90-95 mph, which they haven't got and are renowned for not having any fast bowlers. Every team is grooming youngsters now, England have introduced Dernbach, Finn, Pakistan have got Cheema, Shah, Sri Lanka Eranga, Lakhmal and most other teams are grooming for the future bar India. I cannot believe that India did not play Varun. The downfall of India is India and the BCCI themselves. The only way now for India is down.

  • yorkshire-86 on September 17, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    umm England have lost a lot of players due to injury too, England lost Tremlett and there were at least 7 fast bowlers good enough to replace him, India lost Khan and had written the series off as lost. Both teams are bare in the reserve spinner department, India looked lost without Singh while England were reduced to picking Samit Patel, probably the 2nd worst spinner to play for England in the last 30 years with only Gareth Batty worse than him.

  • cric.info. on September 17, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    BCCI is missing with one department..................................... "MOBILE HOSPITAL"................ but then dhoni will have a new excuse.. "our mobile hospital doctor was injured"... :D

  • on September 17, 2011, 10:38 GMT

    PACERS---4/10 india need to find couple of good pacers like ishant soon.Kumars are just not have ability to perform on big stages (pk is an exception).Zaheer seem like not going to last long.

    SPINNERS---7/10 India dont have any quality spinner-Harbhajin in only good at home.They havent got a special spinner like swan, Imran tahir, bishoo or saeed ajmal.

    FITNESS 5/10 even the fit ones look miserable..likes of yuraj, pk, zaheer, sharma, harbhajan..etc--Injuries are just because they are not fit enough for longer version of game.

    BATTING 9/10 still good even if you exclude tendulker, dravid . Kohli,is good.

  • T-800 on September 17, 2011, 10:33 GMT

    C'mon people give Team India a break. I will be the first one to admit this tour has been a disaster but this is a rare thing in recent history. An unlikely coincidence of negative factors has contributed to this. If you look at this carefully, you will realize that what happened was about 3-4 pillars of our batting order failed all at the same time. The main reason, I feel is that after winning the World cup they didn't have any match practice leading up to this series. After India world cup in 1983, the same thing happened. India lost 0-3 in the test series and 0-5 in the one day series to West Indies. Then they corrected by around 84-85 to win the world series in Australia. Give India some time. They will recover.

  • Bilal.Saeed on September 17, 2011, 10:25 GMT

    These much injuries have got up the Indian team and this is something to be looked upon very carefully. i doubt that most of the injured players would be there for the CLT20 and if they are preferring the league over their country then it's nothing but turning down your country

  • demon_bowler on September 17, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    I'm fed up with the whining excuses from India. England had just as many injuries in the 1-day series and still kept performing. In this game, Swann twisted his ankle just like Munaf, but unlike Munaf, he came back onto the field. If the Indians' general fitness wasn't so poor, they wouldn't get so many injuries.

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:39 GMT

    MSD: A man born with excuses...

  • PeterCook on September 17, 2011, 9:38 GMT

    Dhoni is an excellent captain. Injuries and some dubious departures didn't help. The fact is, India don't have many good bowlers. The best captains ever couldn't have done much with that bowling attack at their disposal. On ther other hand, Cook seems to be a very average captain, and India's poor bowling attack helped him get away with some dodgy field settings.

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:29 GMT

    If MSD wanted a better bowler he could have insisted on varun aaron, more pace. The English brought in Finch but the Indians just swapped Kumars

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:27 GMT

    England didn't have:-

    ODI - Anderson, Broad, Pietersen, Morgan,Strauss retired. In the test series Tremlett was injured and Trott.

    Yes, India have been unlucky to lose bowlers in the middle of matches but England have more depth. Also worth remembering some injuries were caused by Indian batsman inability to play the short ball. harbhajan singh had a strain that didn't show on a scan yet is fit and raring to go for the Champions League, why not return for the ODIs and tough it out? As an England fan I always remember how injury prone we were when losing in Ashes tours, I wonder if it's coincidence, losing/injured?

  • ampshare on September 17, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    Alot of the Indian injuries were caused by undercooked and overcooked players. the selectors asked for trouble. Examples - Zaheer Khan was carrying an injury to start with and RP Singh looked like he had been partying for six months.

  • Shanmughan on September 17, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    @ VEGHA

    How could you possibly blame the Dhoni for the loss,its such a pathetic bowling line up that it cannot even be called as an attack.A captain can only be as good as his team..When the bowlers are good,all the captain's move looks great,Its sad that Gavaskar has blamed India for being tactically below England which is far from truth,It was not tactics,it was the terrific English bowling that made the difference in the Tests.

  • Vinod on September 17, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    Indian players are unfit. When Munaf Patel runs in to bowl does he look like taking wickets ? and how Vinay Kumar think that he will get wickets if he bowls 3 full tosses in an over ? India's bowlers are not fit. Selectors in India select the team not based on capability but based on records. If a bowler take 10 wickets in a match he is in the team. We don't even have a wicket taking quality bowler. It is unbelievable that among 1B people we can't produce another fast bowler like Zaheer Khan. Every bowler in the team runs in with a lazy action and hope that he will get a wicket by luck!

    Selectors need to go to the grassroots and identify good bowlers!

  • squarepeg on September 17, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    Sure, injuries hit India very bad, and most teams would have struggled. But to lose by an inning can not be justified. India's batting greats are fading slowly, There are some replacements, but certainly not Yuvraj who is too inconsistent. Even Sehwag looks suspect against moving balls or balls dug into his ribs. Except for Zahir, no bowler looks like being able to get into another top cricket team like England, Australia, Pakistan, South Africa. Dhoni batted well but his keeping has fallen off the cliff. In fact, the West Indies tour was a clear warning.

  • kaushiq on September 17, 2011, 9:07 GMT

    injuries have made India suffer but also given them a good excuse for their terrible performance

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    to be on the side of a losing team is painful I realize the agony of Indian fans. nothing can heal the scars.on there hearts but time . they must be waitimg for the turn on their placid pitches. after winning the cup and then losing the grace its disgusting.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    Injuries are never an excuse. True that MS Dhoni lost almost one full team of 11 members. But the replacements should be able to do the job better than how they have done so far. In this kind of scenario, BCCI should take entire blame for not sending experienced replacements like Agarkar and Irfan Pathan to boost the weakened bowling attack.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:53 GMT

    bad luck this time. Let them come to India , will see how english boys can play. Smash them on face.

  • CricketingStargazer on September 17, 2011, 8:34 GMT

    You have tours like this and have to cope with it. In 2005/06 England toured Pakistan and India and the players fell like flies, but England still salvaged a draw in the Test series in India. Twelve months later in Australia the side had similar problems and failed to cope and, at that point, you knew that an era was ove for a group of players. The same with the toss. Alistair Cook was roundly criticised for fielding first in several matches, but he had a game plan and faith in his players to deliver. Nomally batting first INdia would expect to set a target so far out of reach that the game would be over at the innings break but, even when India did set a score they never really looked like defending it; the one time that England failed to win, they were cruising before losing 2 wickets in 2 balls with heavy rain already falling.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:27 GMT

    What is the omniscient genius' explanation for not giving aaron a game?What is the omniscient genius' explanation for not giving aaron a game?

  • cric.info. on September 17, 2011, 8:24 GMT

    but i m still thinking that they surely will have some other excuse then... :) go india go... but out of cric..

  • cric.info. on September 17, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    in short................................................ "INDIA GOT THE TALENT"........... :D ................... it seems from article as if england got no injury at all..lol Pakistan lost its mohammad asif, mohamad amir, salman butt, their main batteries.. yet they performed and proved the critics wrong,, dhoni as i always said can be a good spokesperson for his country, he need to step out there in his "democracy"... btw.. he should prepare himself as what to say after upcoming series :p shame on u india.. u made asians feel low.. :(

  • Gizza on September 17, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    Still disappointed to not hear any praise for England. India can't improve until they respect the opposition. Even if you don't really in it just say England have consistently batted and bowled outstandingly throughout the whole tour. That would show that Dhoni is quite down-to-earth which he doesn't appear to be. Then again his answers do depend on the questions the journalists are asking him which I imagine are India-centric questions but still. That aside, if India had the perfect preparation (3 practice matches instead of one and no injuries) I still think England would have won 2-1 (India winning second Test and drawing last Test). If India wanted to win, they needed to improve, go up one level, find a few more quality players before the tour. Despite all of this, England will face a serious challenge when theygo to the subcontinent simply because they have very little experience compared to Aus and SA. Better hope Cook and Swann don't get injured or sick (rest are replaceable).

  • Buggsy on September 17, 2011, 8:14 GMT

    What actually went wrong? Your players showed up overweight, undercooked and over confident, that's what went wrong!

  • VEGHA on September 17, 2011, 7:50 GMT

    Yesterday the Bowling changes were poor and field placements are also poor.The catches were going to no man area and when Jadeja was hit for sixes he could have used Aswin a better bowler.Unfortunately MSD could not do as per the conditions and he ran out of his ideas

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  • VEGHA on September 17, 2011, 7:50 GMT

    Yesterday the Bowling changes were poor and field placements are also poor.The catches were going to no man area and when Jadeja was hit for sixes he could have used Aswin a better bowler.Unfortunately MSD could not do as per the conditions and he ran out of his ideas

  • Buggsy on September 17, 2011, 8:14 GMT

    What actually went wrong? Your players showed up overweight, undercooked and over confident, that's what went wrong!

  • Gizza on September 17, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    Still disappointed to not hear any praise for England. India can't improve until they respect the opposition. Even if you don't really in it just say England have consistently batted and bowled outstandingly throughout the whole tour. That would show that Dhoni is quite down-to-earth which he doesn't appear to be. Then again his answers do depend on the questions the journalists are asking him which I imagine are India-centric questions but still. That aside, if India had the perfect preparation (3 practice matches instead of one and no injuries) I still think England would have won 2-1 (India winning second Test and drawing last Test). If India wanted to win, they needed to improve, go up one level, find a few more quality players before the tour. Despite all of this, England will face a serious challenge when theygo to the subcontinent simply because they have very little experience compared to Aus and SA. Better hope Cook and Swann don't get injured or sick (rest are replaceable).

  • cric.info. on September 17, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    in short................................................ "INDIA GOT THE TALENT"........... :D ................... it seems from article as if england got no injury at all..lol Pakistan lost its mohammad asif, mohamad amir, salman butt, their main batteries.. yet they performed and proved the critics wrong,, dhoni as i always said can be a good spokesperson for his country, he need to step out there in his "democracy"... btw.. he should prepare himself as what to say after upcoming series :p shame on u india.. u made asians feel low.. :(

  • cric.info. on September 17, 2011, 8:24 GMT

    but i m still thinking that they surely will have some other excuse then... :) go india go... but out of cric..

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:27 GMT

    What is the omniscient genius' explanation for not giving aaron a game?What is the omniscient genius' explanation for not giving aaron a game?

  • CricketingStargazer on September 17, 2011, 8:34 GMT

    You have tours like this and have to cope with it. In 2005/06 England toured Pakistan and India and the players fell like flies, but England still salvaged a draw in the Test series in India. Twelve months later in Australia the side had similar problems and failed to cope and, at that point, you knew that an era was ove for a group of players. The same with the toss. Alistair Cook was roundly criticised for fielding first in several matches, but he had a game plan and faith in his players to deliver. Nomally batting first INdia would expect to set a target so far out of reach that the game would be over at the innings break but, even when India did set a score they never really looked like defending it; the one time that England failed to win, they were cruising before losing 2 wickets in 2 balls with heavy rain already falling.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:53 GMT

    bad luck this time. Let them come to India , will see how english boys can play. Smash them on face.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    Injuries are never an excuse. True that MS Dhoni lost almost one full team of 11 members. But the replacements should be able to do the job better than how they have done so far. In this kind of scenario, BCCI should take entire blame for not sending experienced replacements like Agarkar and Irfan Pathan to boost the weakened bowling attack.

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    to be on the side of a losing team is painful I realize the agony of Indian fans. nothing can heal the scars.on there hearts but time . they must be waitimg for the turn on their placid pitches. after winning the cup and then losing the grace its disgusting.