England v India, 3rd Investec Test, Ageas Bowl, 5th day July 31, 2014

Moeen six-for ends England's win drought


England 569 for 7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156, Cook 95, Buttler 85) and 205 for 4 dec (Cook 70*, Root 56*) beat India 330 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50, Anderson 5-53) and 178 (Rahane 52*, Moeen 6-67, Anderson 2-24) by 266 runs
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England ended a winless run of ten Tests, which began in August last year, in style on the fifth morning in Southampton, completing a performance so clinical that they did not allow India even a dominant hour in four days and one session. It was almost the perfect Test, because not only did England's out-of-form batsmen - the under-pressure captain Alastair Cook and Ian Bell - make big runs but they also plugged the one hole in their bowling attack, with offspinner Moeen Ali completing a six-wicket haul to level the series 1-1.

The home side began the day needing six wickets, and India did not offer a semblance of a fight. James Anderson, who faces a possible suspension at his Level 3 hearing on Friday, was immaculate once again, breaking India's back before leaving the spotlight for Moeen to spin through the tail. Ajinkya Rahane remained unbeaten on a half-century - his second of the Test - but he ran out of partners ten minutes before lunch.

On the fourth morning, Anderson had mopped up India's last two wickets with bouncers. Today he got rid of Rohit Sharma and MS Dhoni inside the first half hour with his stock outswinger. Both batsmen wafted loosely on the front foot and edged to Jos Buttler, who finished his debut Test with six catches, a score of 85 off 83 balls, and numerous athletic diving saves. There was debate over Rohit's decision - Snicko indicated an edge, Hot Spot did not - but no doubt over Dhoni. Anderson's first spell read 6-2-11-2 and he claimed his second Man-of-the-Match award of the series.

Moeen had hurt India on the fourth evening, dismissing Cheteshwar Pujara and Virat Kohli in quick succession, and wasted no time in adding to his tally. Ravindra Jadeja, who had a poor Test with the ball, completed a poor one with the bat too by almost yorking himself and inside-edging a full ball on to his stumps. Four balls later Moeen had Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who in previous innings had exhibited better defence than several top-order India batsmen, caught at gully with an offbreak that bounced sharply, hit the inside edge and lobbed off the pad.

Mohammed Shami and Pankaj Singh, India's No. 10 and 11, gave Moeen view of their stumps and lost them in quick time to deliveries that did not turn as much as the batsmen expected. With match figures of 8 for 129, Moeen had shaken off the perception of him being a part-time spinner.

George Binoy is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on August 4, 2014, 6:43 GMT

    Old Trafford will be a draw with rain expected in Manchester on every day of the test match. Will all boil down to the decider in London Kennington Oval. India should pick Gambhir for Dhawan and Ashwin for Jadeja in Old Trafford to give them both some valuable practice before the decider. Old Trafford will not suit Ashwin but he needs match practice for the all important decider. Also with Ishant ruled out, Bhuvi in doubt and Shami in poor form, India might be looking at a complete change of bowling line up at Old Trafford with Ishwar Pandey, Varun Aaron, Ashwin coming in and Pankaj retaining his spot after an unlucky but impressive debew.

  • on August 4, 2014, 6:15 GMT

    Dhoni needs to understand that by being stubborn and making Dhawan open and hoping that he will 'come good', he is not only doing a disservice to the batting team but also destroying Dhawan's confidence. He simply doesnt have the technique to open in England. You have to be a good strategist to win test matches. Its better to open with Rahane and Vijay. Follow up with Pujara. Make sure that they reach a good 200-3. Then Kohli, Sharma, and Dhawan can come in and dictate terms. This is what they are good at... dictating terms. Not coming in and feeling for balls outside the offstump, praying for Indian conditions. After this Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, and seamers can come to clean house. Also, spinners need to be sent in pairs. The English batsmen's concentration needs to be 'tested' by bowling spinners in tandem. There is no point in copying English strategy in bowling. Their batsmen are adept at playing swing/seam/pace, leaving balls, and biding their time. Comfort zone.

  • on August 3, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    Toss is so much.important in tests..whoever bats first has advantage. Both England nd INDIA selections of players are poor nd captain too

  • vkumar_086. on August 3, 2014, 7:16 GMT

    I am going to have a FIELD DAY on the 19th of August 2014 as England will be triumphant 3-1. England only needs Moeen Ali to get the 40 wickets required which are way too easy.

  • on August 3, 2014, 4:55 GMT

    India might very well win the next one as England has a funny habit of losing, soon after winning a match. The Batsmen (English or Indian) will decide the outcome. Whoever clicks will set the match on fire. A Kohli ton is long overdue. If he finally delivers then India could win. What if Moeen decides to score a ton and Anderson continues to bag wickets? What if Ashwin rips through everything in sight? Anything can happen. These two teams are mediocre at best. Not in the same league as SA or the Aussies. But these two are very evenly matched and so the outcome remains uncertain.

  • on August 3, 2014, 2:59 GMT

    moeen ali's perfomance lay down india

  • AltafPatel on August 2, 2014, 15:34 GMT

    Looking for a day when Moeen bowls Amla..., Beard vs Beard !

  • mzm149 on August 2, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    @Arun Bose: Since you are making predictions. Let me make one as well. England will score more runs in 1st or 2nd innings (whichever they play) than the number of comments on this article :) (444 at the moment).

  • on August 2, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    @R_U_"REALLY"_NICK- You're right man, I just checked again on my app and now It's showing different forecast..First two days maybe drenched in rainfall but other three days are fine.. Man, England's weather is really unpredictable and frustrating as well.. :) How you guys cope with such unpredictable weather? Hats off to you guys.. :)

  • on August 2, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    @R_U_"REALLY"_NICK- Maybe, But I posted what I saw in my android accuweather app.. Even if it happens it will eventually end in a draw and the decider would be played at The Oval where India will beat England and win this series by 2-1.. No luck, No Raingod would come to England's aid..

  • on August 4, 2014, 6:43 GMT

    Old Trafford will be a draw with rain expected in Manchester on every day of the test match. Will all boil down to the decider in London Kennington Oval. India should pick Gambhir for Dhawan and Ashwin for Jadeja in Old Trafford to give them both some valuable practice before the decider. Old Trafford will not suit Ashwin but he needs match practice for the all important decider. Also with Ishant ruled out, Bhuvi in doubt and Shami in poor form, India might be looking at a complete change of bowling line up at Old Trafford with Ishwar Pandey, Varun Aaron, Ashwin coming in and Pankaj retaining his spot after an unlucky but impressive debew.

  • on August 4, 2014, 6:15 GMT

    Dhoni needs to understand that by being stubborn and making Dhawan open and hoping that he will 'come good', he is not only doing a disservice to the batting team but also destroying Dhawan's confidence. He simply doesnt have the technique to open in England. You have to be a good strategist to win test matches. Its better to open with Rahane and Vijay. Follow up with Pujara. Make sure that they reach a good 200-3. Then Kohli, Sharma, and Dhawan can come in and dictate terms. This is what they are good at... dictating terms. Not coming in and feeling for balls outside the offstump, praying for Indian conditions. After this Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, and seamers can come to clean house. Also, spinners need to be sent in pairs. The English batsmen's concentration needs to be 'tested' by bowling spinners in tandem. There is no point in copying English strategy in bowling. Their batsmen are adept at playing swing/seam/pace, leaving balls, and biding their time. Comfort zone.

  • on August 3, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    Toss is so much.important in tests..whoever bats first has advantage. Both England nd INDIA selections of players are poor nd captain too

  • vkumar_086. on August 3, 2014, 7:16 GMT

    I am going to have a FIELD DAY on the 19th of August 2014 as England will be triumphant 3-1. England only needs Moeen Ali to get the 40 wickets required which are way too easy.

  • on August 3, 2014, 4:55 GMT

    India might very well win the next one as England has a funny habit of losing, soon after winning a match. The Batsmen (English or Indian) will decide the outcome. Whoever clicks will set the match on fire. A Kohli ton is long overdue. If he finally delivers then India could win. What if Moeen decides to score a ton and Anderson continues to bag wickets? What if Ashwin rips through everything in sight? Anything can happen. These two teams are mediocre at best. Not in the same league as SA or the Aussies. But these two are very evenly matched and so the outcome remains uncertain.

  • on August 3, 2014, 2:59 GMT

    moeen ali's perfomance lay down india

  • AltafPatel on August 2, 2014, 15:34 GMT

    Looking for a day when Moeen bowls Amla..., Beard vs Beard !

  • mzm149 on August 2, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    @Arun Bose: Since you are making predictions. Let me make one as well. England will score more runs in 1st or 2nd innings (whichever they play) than the number of comments on this article :) (444 at the moment).

  • on August 2, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    @R_U_"REALLY"_NICK- You're right man, I just checked again on my app and now It's showing different forecast..First two days maybe drenched in rainfall but other three days are fine.. Man, England's weather is really unpredictable and frustrating as well.. :) How you guys cope with such unpredictable weather? Hats off to you guys.. :)

  • on August 2, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    @R_U_"REALLY"_NICK- Maybe, But I posted what I saw in my android accuweather app.. Even if it happens it will eventually end in a draw and the decider would be played at The Oval where India will beat England and win this series by 2-1.. No luck, No Raingod would come to England's aid..

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 2, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    @Arun 5/3-0 Bose: as JG2704 says, don't go too much by the weather forecast. It's true that they can predict 5 days better now than they could a single day a mere decade ago; but beyond that is still rather a lottery. The U.K. weather forecast sites I use here are now predicting only two of the five test days in Manchester to have light showers, with the rest nice sunshine and temperatures ~25oC. My gut feeling is that yes, we'll lose some precious game time; but there'll still be a game nonetheless and who knows - a few slip-ups from either team could still lead to a result.

  • on August 2, 2014, 11:20 GMT

    @vkias- There was nothing lucky abt India's win at Lord's, I am sick and tired of hearing this codswallop from the day India won that match..Why is it so difficult to give India the credit for that win? Indian bowlers worked very hard to get those 20 wickets..Nobody said to English batsmen to play those shots in arrogance, They are not small kids! It's always you miss I hit in cricket.. They missed, Ishant took their wickets..I don't understand why is it so difficult for people to recognise this simple fact! Jealousy won't give you anything but just heartbreak..And no not England but India will win this series by 2-1 as there would be no match at Manchester because of heavy rainfall and nobody prayed for that.. You just wait and watch how this same Indian team proves you so very wrong! And 19th August 2014 will be mine here at cricinfo..

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 2, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    @Meety (post on August 2, 2014, 3:38 GMT): The media and avid Ali fans are, as usual, hyping him [Ali] up to be the next Swann or something. There was some interesting analysis shown on Ali's bowling during the highlights by Simon Hughes: like Swann, Ali seems to use natural variation with his bowling. He sends down virtually every delivery as an off-spinner with the same action etc. and where some of those deliveries will pitch off the seam and spin, others will pitch more off a face of the ball and simply slide on with the angle. That is virtually impossible to predict as a batsman, and very hard to compensate for regardless of class/form. Probably the only way the Indians could have coped better with Ali was to come forward more and try and play more balls on the full, but of course avoid missing the ball and getting stumped instead. The similarities with Swann end there though. There are still too many rank 'four-six' balls from Ali, and I reckon he'll be found out subcontinent.

  • vkumar_086. on August 2, 2014, 4:26 GMT

    Now we are praying for rain at Manchester to avoid imminent defeat. Weather gods wont come to our rescue. Luck favored us at Lords but luck wont favor us always. England is now definitely gonna win 3-1.

  • Meety on August 2, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    Good comeback for England. Sometimes very hard to break a rough sequence. Balance has deliverd the goods and seems to be a good long term prospect. Not sure what to make of Ali. Is he abloke that performs above himself in the big stage, or has India played him appallingly? I can't believe he has taken 6 wickets in an innings v India. His batting is about where his County career suggest it should be (ave over 35), but I am just staggered that a at best a useful county spinner has cut spun India out. Maybe he (Ali) is on a massive upward curve, dunno, maybe India thought England would roll over and took them too lightly? Always tough batting last (unless you are Faf), but India should of taken this game closer to a draw.

  • SL_rockz on August 1, 2014, 16:05 GMT

    well done England..You deserved that win.. It was a team effort after all. India just fell like county attack...:) Hope they make their mistakes and come strong so we can watch a good entertaining test match. This match was pure one way traffic. Test caliber of few indian batsmen are under serious consideration :) ... They should prove that they are worth on bouncy tracks in next two games.. Anderson and broad pair doing really well. The likes of Moeen ali supports them well.

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:40 GMT

    England getting bounced out by Ishant sharma of all people and India getting spunout by Moeen ali?? Looks like there is no need for likes of Johnson and swann

  • BHARATH_DADA on August 1, 2014, 15:36 GMT

    4th test INDIA................ Gautam Gambhir Murali Vijay Cheteshwar Pujara MS Dhoni Ajinkya Rahane Ravindra Jadeja Stuart Binny Ravichandran Ashwin Ishwar Pandey Pankaj Singh Varun Aaron

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:23 GMT

    @JG2704- I don't know if It's gospel or not but till date none of It's prediction or forecast has turned out wrong.. For Southampton test it was all sunny, For all five days on accuweather app and it turned out to be true...Even Nasser Hussain said during commentary on Star Sports 1 that fourth test might washout as heavy rainfall are expected on all five match days.. Let's see what happens.... Washout would be good for both teams as both would be able to get proper rest in this hectic schedule of five test series..

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:11 GMT

    For people and experts asking for Ashwin -Ashwin have a terrible record overseas. Jadeja have better success than him overseas. Ashwin is not the solution.Is ashwin the best spinner available in India is the question.Time to look at akshar patel or someone else who can spin overseas.

  • JG2704 on August 1, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    @ArunBose - Do you think the Accuweather app's accuracy is gospel?

    Here in England the weather is so unpredictable and frustrating that a 5 day forecast is often incorrect so going further on from 5 days and surely it becomes a lottery. I should know as I've been planning a solo bike/walk/swim day even for a hospice and it's been a real headache getting the right weather on a day when people can come out and witness it. Honestly , anything further than 5 days ahead you should totally discount. Obviously it could be a washout but please don't go too much into a forecast which is so long range

  • BustIPL on August 1, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    Both Moeen and amderson ensured that they are remembered for cricketing reasons as well to negate all the propaganda of which ICC itself is a part. Both of them proved that they are loyal to their nation and to everything else.

  • on August 1, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    India cricket is going nowhere.Please start selecting people on performance and not age.We had enough of these talented young cricketers of India. They need to play more domestic cricket outside India. Indias domestic standards are poor and not competative. A good batsmen can perform anywhere regardless of pitch and conditions same with Bowlers. Ricky Ponting, Kallis, Sachin, Dravid,Lara, McGrath,Walsh,Holding. These became legends as they perform in all conditions. Cannot say with these Indian batting lineup. They are more intersted in IPL and big money. They are short of hardwork and talent. They cant play swing they cant play spin. they play flat batting wickets.

  • on August 1, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    Sorry to inform this folks but Manchester test match is dead now as weather forecast for all five match days are drenched in heavy rainfall..I just checked that on my accuweather app here in India! Now, The series decider will be played at The Oval in London..Let's meet at merry old London now.. It will start on Indian Independence day 15th august.. Boy, The stage is set beautifully for India.. This match will be remembered for a long long time! I not just hopeful, I know it! I can see the future, MSD and Indian team jumping and dancing on the podium with coveted Pataudi trophy in their arms, Every single Indian player kissing it with joy.. I said before Southampton match that we are going to lose bcz I saw it! This time as well I see it but this time India's winning it!

  • Shibu1981 on August 1, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    India couldnt even win one session out of 13 sessions played, when England posted a total of 440 in the forth innings India should have tried for a draw, a draw here was almost like a win for India.They did the wrong thing when they came to bat in the forth inning, they gave away wickets and put themselves into pressure. Here comes the imprtance of legends like Dravid & Laxman to play long innings under pressure, Rahane batted with patience and concentration, Pujara & Kohli are the culprits here, they were supposed to play long innings, the funny thing is the Indian batters didnt want to look at the runs, because there was no way to win the game, look at the overs or balls they have played and check how many balls or overs remaining. India were supposd to play out 133 overs to save the game, 133x6= 798 balls.India had(Including MSD) 7 Batsman x114 balls each=798 balls & Game over in draw.Only Rahane faced 121 balls next best is Dhawan with 85 balls.Simply No Game plan at all!!!shame !

  • aman15 on August 1, 2014, 12:16 GMT

    @ankush0531 I will reiterate what i said earlier that anderson is indeed a wonderful fast bowler. But steyn definitely is several steps ahead of him and its not because of just stats but the gulf in stats of steyn and anderson. Steyn for eg takes his wicket at close to 8 runs on an avg less than anderson and nearly three overs (17 balls) faster than anderson. Also Steyn comfortably avgs over 5 wickts per match while anderson still doesn't avg even 4 wickets per match. As for wasim and waqar, the only stat where waqar beats wasim is strike rate (more than 10 balls faster than wasi m). Rest of comparison between wasim and waqar is pretty even.

  • ramli on August 1, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    India could not carry their momentum into this test as they lost their important bowler + batsmen simply did not apply themselves here as they did in previous two tests ... hope this is just an aberration and will reverse in the next test ... good luck to both teams

  • JG2704 on August 1, 2014, 11:56 GMT

    @Charlie101 on (July 31, 2014, 13:34 GMT) Yeah it would be interesting. We hear that Bell went on to score this amount etc but then that's what you've got to do. That's the difference. Kohli and another Indian player were both plum LBW but the difference is that none went on to score big. Bell and Buttler and Cook capitalised on their luck/bad decisions. Also Ravi Shastri was saying that one of India's main issues with DRS was that they didn't believe in the predicted element DRS uses on the ball's path in LBWs so had DRS been used modified to India's requests then Bell would still have remained not out.

  • on August 1, 2014, 11:50 GMT

    How about a well done Eng while your at it instead of Indian this Dhoni/Kholi the other - Anderson may not be stuff of legend but he has good capabilities.Well done Eng team on the win.

  • UnbiasedCricFan on August 1, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    Guy's we all should be positive for the next match, india still can win this series, We one on a green top at Lords and hopefully Manchester has the same type of pitch. We have to keep faith in Dhoni and The boys. They can and will bounce back.

  • JG2704 on August 1, 2014, 11:47 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan on (August 1, 2014, 9:28 GMT) While I'd not compare Anderson to Steyn or Mcgrath I'd still say he is world class. He's basically had 2 careers and the stats in his 2nd stint will read a whole lot better than those in his 1st.

  • GOSMGR2 on August 1, 2014, 11:45 GMT

    Ishant Sharma has been the best bowler in this series so far in my opinion, so his injury not only severely weakened India but caused them to alter the balance of their side.I would have given the man of the match( I haven't agreed with any of the selections so far) to Cook.This is the best I have seen him captain and he played an important role in both innings.It was good to see Anderson recapture form, though to my mind, batsmen are still able to leave too many of his deliveries alone indicating a defensive mindset.According to my figures Anderson bowled 18 deliveries to Jadeja in the match and beat him 10 times-an interesting side battle that Jimmy is winning.Rahane needs more support.A big innings for Kohli is surely not far away, but Pujara seems to be going backwards.I would keep Dhawan,he's a good fielder and he's not the worst slow bowler to my mind.I thought Stokes bowled well at Lords and would have him back.Final thought:Dhoni too negative here.

  • ankush0531 on August 1, 2014, 11:22 GMT

    Aman15@ I am taking about class and stats. If steyn has better stats than Anderson that doesnt mean that he is better than Anderson. If so, then waqar Younis had better stats than Wasim Akram. But most of the world class batsmen says Wasim was better than Waqar. Same rule is applicable here. Anderson's bowling is more difficult to handle compare to Steyn. According to Kapil Dev, Anderson is the best fast bowler in world.

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 1, 2014, 11:21 GMT

    Four changes for next match:

    NAMAN OJHA for MS DHONI(Rest to learn captaincy from Gambhir). Gambhir for Dhawan. Ashwin for Rohit. Aaron/Pandey for Shami.

    Team XI: Vijay, Gambhir(c), Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Ojha, Ashwin, Jadeja, Bhuvi, Aaron/Pandey, Pankaj.

  • on August 1, 2014, 11:07 GMT

    Donot crib of any decisions that go against indian team.we ourselves are to blame for that. umpiring decisions went wrong even before drs was invented but in that era we had nothing to improve that situation. Today we have very well trained umpires who have reduced human errors but still there are bound to be few mistakes as everyone is human. to reduce these errors to even lesser count, we have something called DRS. if you dont want it in the game, learn to live without it. Unnecessarily blaming umpires is not the solution.

  • vstrider on August 1, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    I find it a bit harsh really to say James Anderson is an ordinary bowler, he is going to finish the highest wicket taker in English history and that's above some pretty big names (Botham, Willis, Trueman, Swann, he is also going to take well over 400 test wickets something only 11 have achieved before him.

    His average of 30 is probably not as low as he or others would like but hes a match winner, Harris is a great bowler but he cannot stay fit and he has only played 24 matches

  • vkias_vkumar. on August 1, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    All other teams are going forward we haven't won any series for the year 2014 other than Bangladesh!!!! The whole cricket world is laughing at us! Where is our pride now? This is going to be another series loss for us and when are we coming out of this??? Really disappointed seriously..

  • pritamdas_circ on August 1, 2014, 10:42 GMT

    I miss Raina he showed lot of character in Bangladesh when India were getting all out on 100 on those ridiculous pitches plus he had a good IPL season too. Dhawan and Rohit are not just useless but are becoming unlucky for India team, get rid of the two ASAP. Shami has been a disappointment, Pankaj should keep on playing, Bhuvi might be having some minor fitness issues which worry me. With Ishant being unavailable, We should play Aaron or Umesh. With 4 bowlers India are only going to lose, that's fact, it's sad and frustrating that Dhoni thinks otherwise.

  • Iicyy on August 1, 2014, 10:35 GMT

    What India needs to do here, is drop the flat wicket champion batsman or so they call him Kholi!! As for their bowling, well it's very simple to see what India's problems are and so too their fielding!!! Come on guys, you all are a much better team than this.

  • on August 1, 2014, 10:23 GMT

    England looked good only cause we played poor cricket. If batsmen cant handle good swing bowling why we call them talented. Last time when England visited India they handle spin bowling brillantly and won the series. Dhoni does not deserve a place in eleven and his team selection and captainicy is pathetic. We have lost matches when we were in wining position.His overseas record peaks for itself. Please do not compare this bating line up with Shewag,Dravid, Sachin,Laxman Ganguly, they scored against best bowlers and these England team has average bowlers, we are still struggling. Rohit Sharma and Dhawan are waste in the team they can only bat on flat wickets. Dhoni is useless in Test, Good one day batsman batting at 6, where every thing is set for him.

  • abdullah526 on August 1, 2014, 10:21 GMT


    Congrats to English team after a while and especially Moeen Ali for his match winning performance. Captaincy looking good and all the credit goes to whole English team. I wish them good luck for the rest of the series.

    Moeen Ali the Real Hero of the match, keep it up man.

  • vkias_vkumar. on August 1, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    This useless Indian Team disappointed me again!!! I predicted to win 4-0 after seeing Sri Lankans winning. Dhoni should be sacked and Kholi too. India should give the captaincy to Buvaneshwar!! He is a great all rounder and always play for the country!! also give the vice captaincy to Vijay We need to start from the beginning and play with Ireland and Zimbabwe with a new team with new faces and then play the bigger teams!! -Sad Indian fan

  • on August 1, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    The fault for this loss lies wholely and solely on Dhoni. His Captaincy cannot be worse and he is use less to the Team. I can't wait for him to play his 100 Test matches and retire from Test cricket. Even he knows that he is on borrowed time.

  • on August 1, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    @Valavan: You seriously are looking at some other stats or completely ignoring the stats. Let us check them out. Anderson in India: 22 Wkts in 7 matches at Avg 29.81 an SR 62.9 (It is impressive isn't it!! Then what would you say for following??)

    McGrath in India: 33 Wkts in 8 matches at Avg 21.30 and SR 56.9.

    Now Steyn in India (Hold your breath): 26 wkts in 5 matches at avg 20.23 and SR 34.5

    Now Anderson never played in Pakistan so we cant have it here, but in Sri lanka, which is probably most difficult place for a pace bowler Anderson avg mighty 40 comare to 29 of Mcgrath and 24 of Styne.

    Now if we look out of subcontinent, Anderson falls flat in comparison to these two greats anywhere. Only Anderson can boast of better record in Eng compare to Steyn but McGrath overshadows him completely there too. any where else, he is a pale shadow of the bowler he is in India and Eng.

    Yes Anderson is good bowler. But NO, he is not a great bowler yet, and not anywhere Steyn or Glenn.

  • cric1965 on August 1, 2014, 10:04 GMT

    IPL has damaged the attitude of Indian players regarding test cricket. It is very difficult to reverse those effects. If you can earn money easily why worry about test cricket?

  • o-bomb on August 1, 2014, 9:31 GMT

    Please ignore my last comment. I've now seen that Saha has been replaced in the squad.

  • on August 1, 2014, 9:28 GMT

    @Valavan. Why are you just comparing what Anderson has done in India? McGrath has bowled out every team in every single country ha ha , look at Mcgraths stats in India as he was instrumental in Australia winning in India in 2004. Your seriously deluded if you think Anderson is better than McGrath too , as the entire world would agree too! Just because Anderson keeps skittling out a poor Indian side does not make Anderson world class as no world class bowler has a overall average of 30.

  • JG2704 on August 1, 2014, 9:23 GMT

    One thing I will say as a positive re England was Buttler's performance behind the stumps. He rode his luck early on and probably should have been given out - although it's the modern way on catches that if there is any doubt the batsman remains at the crease - but then went on to play the sort of inns Eng needed to push the game forward. I was dead against the selection on a number of levels and I still say 1 inns proves nothing and if he had gone early we'd all still be doubting him as a batsman. But as a keeper he did pretty well so fair play to him for stepping up and I hope it continues

  • Valavan on August 1, 2014, 9:07 GMT

    @jamieMoneghan, check anderson's stat against McGrath's stat vs India in India. Anderson is really a great bowler, Anderson, Finn faired much better than Siddle and Co in India. I do accept Ryan harris is a great bowler, if you claim him so, then please include Shane Bond and Wayne Daniel to that list as well. How come any bowler pick up 350+ test wickets without talent. Infact Australia plays Andy better, but dont forget until you win the next ashes, i would not call this Oz bunch as world beaters, Mitch and Ryan should have same spark as recently concluded ashes, if thats neutralized believe me Aussies will be gunned down by 2 -1 as in 2005 or 2009 in coming ashes.

  • ravis123 on August 1, 2014, 8:58 GMT

    MSD is not good enough for tests - we all know it, so why make him the Captain which he is incompetent to lead and play any role? Hand the mettle to Gautham Gambhir - replace Shikar with Gambhir, Dhoni with Ojha, Rohit with Ashwin and Shami with Aaron.. you will see the results Ravi

  • kiwicricketnut on August 1, 2014, 8:55 GMT

    nearly 400 comments here and hardly a positive one among them, england vs india comment boards are very depressing, everyone has selection opinions and i can understand fan dissapointment when your team loses but this is the biggest list if negativity and ragging on players i think ive seen, have you people forgotten why we watch this game, try and enjoy it for goodness sake there are some good young players on display here.

  • on August 1, 2014, 8:38 GMT

    Can't believe there is people on here comparing Anderson with Steyn as Steyn is in a league of his own as even Ryan Harris who is ranked 2nd in the world and with a world class average of 22 is not as consistent as Steyn and I'm a Aussie! Anderson isn't even in the top 10 as if the ball doesn't swing then he is useless as look at his stats from the Ashes as even Bailey hit him for 28 in one over. Anderson is ordinary with a average of 30 which is laughable , leave Steyn out of this as he is on a par with Hadlee, McGrath where he can take wickets on any pitch anywhere.

  • ladycricfan on August 1, 2014, 8:27 GMT

    Congrats England, out played india in every department. The moment India selected the team, india lost the match.

    Dry summer and pitches are dry in England. India can even play with 3spinners. Call Mishra or Pragyan Ojha to the squad. The way Ali out performed Jadeja, imagine what Ashwin would've done with his off spin and variations. Dhoni is adamant on benching Ashwin at any cost and it is costing India badly. If Dhoni is not listening to the pundits like Atherton, Hussain, Shastri, Botham, Lloyd, Chappel, Dravid and many more all over the cricketing world to include Ashwin the management should find a way to rest Dhoni and play Naman Ojha.

  • asu101 on August 1, 2014, 8:25 GMT

    Tendulkar, Dravid , Ganguly all became fine batsmen overseas because they played a year of county cricket. Seeing the current lot the whole batting line up including Dhoni need a year of county cricket. They just do not have the technique to play the moving ball consistently.

    But this is never going to happen because the priority of the BCCI and players is the IPL which is also held in the best part of May.

    The Indian team lacks dedication to win abroad, they have a truly uninspiring captain who lacks innovation. I agree Ishant won us the lords test but I think its high time he justifies his position with a bowling average of 37.

    Broad and Anderson have also played 2 more tests against SL and they are still fit. But our strike bowler has already broken down.

    The worst thing about Dhoni is he does not admit to his mistakes. He always defends guys like Shami, Rohit, Dhawan etc despite their poor form.

    India might lose the series 3-1 which is equally embarrassing as 4-nil.

  • on August 1, 2014, 8:23 GMT

    gr8 work by England...well done england

  • 5string on August 1, 2014, 8:22 GMT

    Ahmad Uetian: you're talking rubbish! Cook provided the foundation for others to hit out - yet he still scored at about 4 runs per over himself.

    That's a captain's innings, in spite of his batting confidence being low.

  • Ant0 on August 1, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    We have to make some serious changes in our team composition if we wish to win this series. My team would be: vijay, gambhir, puraja, rahane, kohli, ashwin, dhoni, naman ohja, bhuvi, ishwer, pankaj. If moeen can spin and turn, ashwin can do it with ease. And many new english batsmen have not faced ashwin and his variations. Kohli and Dhoni must start their innings by attacking the england bowlers from ball one and settle after they reach 50 and build a big innings. And naman ohja is a good striking batsmen and he has the experience of batting with tail.

  • Anwaruzz on August 1, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    If decision often against India are faulty, then why is BCCI obstinately and solely against DRS ? Indian fans should accept the fact that team played badly and did not have the hunger to win, so they lost this match.

  • on August 1, 2014, 8:00 GMT

    I am afraid what Shami is in for??

    Replace him with Aaron ask him to bowl fast at stumps & provide him leg side fields

  • Alexk400 on August 1, 2014, 7:59 GMT

    We already know you have to eat meat to be good fast bowler. Now even for spinner if you eat lots of meat your ball will have lots zip in the trajectory like a rope. I think all indian spinners float the ball. Ashwin just use height , mishra floats too much. Reason is lack of strength in the arm and small fingers. England taught india how to spin the ball. Case closed.

  • GRVJPR on August 1, 2014, 7:56 GMT

    Till MSD is captain, India will never be able to gauge true potential of players. He just doesn't knwo how to use'em.

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:48 GMT

    In the last test match spotlight was on Cook. His captaincy or lack of it and batting woes. In this match he has overcome both. He should thank the Indian bowlers and fielders.

    Shami has become one dimentional and has no aggression and no intent to take wickets. Our captain is absolutely lame duck when taking chances. He never takes risks..unless driven to a corner. He took lot of time in taking Ashwin out of playing eleven and now taking lot of time when to bring him back. He should also think of taking Dhawan out of the team. He is no compare to Shewag at all. When Shewag plays , he plays for 100' and double 100's..though technically same as Dhawan.

    We must also rest Bhuvaneshwar now. Or else he will breakdown. Bring in Aaron instead. Goodluck and atleast give a fight in next match..Its pathetic to watch so called best players of spins giving a part time bowlers 6 wicket haul.

    Apart from that India desperately need DRS !!

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    Pathetic Indian bowling again the worry...............On same pitch English bowlers were close to unplayable but Indians were happy to miss edges...........

    If u r missing edges too often that doesn't mean you r unlcuky............It only means you need to bowl at off stump & a tad fuller.

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:42 GMT

    Very selfish inns by cook ................Eng needed fast runs & every eng batsman was sacrificing for cause but captain cook..............SHAME on him!!

    If others hadn't scored quickly Ind would have easily drawn the game.

    Leaders set the example unlike cook

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:41 GMT

    MSD, leave the place for N.Ojha. U R exceptional in shorter versions. Not in Tests. U urself handover the Test captainship to someone else after this series.Tests away home needs big nerves changings. Same mindset don't work everytime.

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:41 GMT

    If test cricket is played the way Indians played at Ageas Bowl, i am confident enough to lead my village team against this English side. Not taking any credit away from England, but Indians played such poor cricket that many out of form English players regained their form. It has now become a saying among the cricketing world that "if you want your players to regain their form, play them against India". After the first 2 tests India has gone back to the old habits of letting the advantage slip away from them. Lack of application was very much evident in their fielding and batting. India has got lot of talented players but it will be useless if u can not reflect it on the field. Added to that Dhoni's reluctance to kick out non performers. Remove Dhawan, Jadeja, Rohit & Shami and bring Gauti, Ashwin and Varun. If Ishant can not play then Pandey should be considered. Dhoni himself should give way for Naman Ojha who had a great tour with the India A side.

  • ankush0531 on August 1, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    SANJAY ViSaria@ Bad umpiring actually went in favour of india. They got four decisions in their favor and one against them

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Indians were supposed to be the best players of spin bowling.... Seeing how they bat these days against spinners, one can also make out that gone are those days where Indians had good quality spinners.. Nowadays no batsman has experience playing against a quality spinner in domestic cricket.. Bhajji, Ashwin.. anyone else??

  • Iceman29 on August 1, 2014, 7:28 GMT

    Kick the non performers out of the team especially Dhawan, Rohit (for God's sake pls remove this guy even from domestic cricket)....Mr. Dhoni...when you give repeated chances to non-performers this is how the result will be..atleast give chance to the players who are in the squad waiting for a chance...

  • aman15 on August 1, 2014, 7:25 GMT

    @ankush0531 How on earth is anderson better than steyn ?? Anderson is a mighty fine bowler but steyn is a class above him. Steyn beats him in every possible parameter, be it strike rate (41.8 for steyn vs 58.8 for anderson), avg (22.82 vs 30.09) or wickets per match (a shade below 4 for anderson vs notch above 5 for steyn) while their eco rates are more or less same.

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    dropped catches bad umpiring decisions and faulty batting all togather got india blown away first start to think the other way change the team change the batting order ashwin has test batting capabilities he used to open for tamil nadu thats why here i put him with vijay for the opening slot and change the batting order vijay ashwin pujara rohit rahane kohli dhoni jadeja bhuvi shami aaron because ishant is not fit now you will laugh at me but if ashwin gets set as an opener allrounder we will have lot to gain rohit one more chance or gambhir comes in shami can be replaced by pandey if he doesnt deliver kohli is getting into the groove but if he doesnt deliver than naman can be given a chance in the last test

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:21 GMT

    Indians were not looking hungry for win. Dhonis selection of team was extremely poo and performance of first two tests Dhavan should not deserve the place in this match and why Rohit included instead of Gambhir

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:20 GMT

    Its a bowler who decides the result of a test match just like steyn did it in the first test vs srilanka currently on a flat wicket with no favor or purchase to fast bowlers unless n until it spins on the 3rd session on the 4th day and 5th day due to the roughs created by bowlers landing or whatever.if india really wants to win this series they should have some quality fast bowlers and in this squad no one is fast as varun aaron so he should be considered for the next test.

  • indian1986 on August 1, 2014, 7:14 GMT

    I am all in for 5 bowler strategy.. and if Dhoni again goes with 4 bowler strategy, India would be better off without Varun Aron as he is prone to breaking down, his strength is speed and may not be able to bowl long spells. He could be included in the team if Dhoni goes for 5 bowlers, but it will weaken the batting which is misfiring. It s a catch 22 situation. my bowlers would be Bhuvi, Ashwin, Sirji, pankaj, Aron.

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:13 GMT

    Perhaps the most embarrassing loss for India in recent times? being bundled out by a part time spinner (and India are suppose to be best players of spin) in English conditions (supposedly not conducive to spin). the long wait for an outside subcontinent series win continues

  • ankush0531 on August 1, 2014, 7:10 GMT

    JAMES ANDERSON is the number one fast bowler in the world. He is better than STEYN. He swings both ways with lot of movement with decent pace . However Steyn only bowls good out swinger. Both are able to get reverse swing.

  • princekukka on August 1, 2014, 7:05 GMT

    its ok dhoni bro . u have done captaincy for 7 yrs . its time to retire for u. enough of u and sehwag drama. still cricket is left in sehwag, zaheer and yuvraj . play one day cricket as a cricketer not as captain or u retire from cricket . get back sehwag, zahir, yuvraj.

    make yuvraj singh captain and zahir vice captain.

    my team

    gambhir, sehwag, jadeja, virat kohli, shikhar dhawan, murali Vijay, ashwin, vinay kumar, ishant sharma, wicket keeper, stuart binny,

  • Samdanh on August 1, 2014, 7:03 GMT

    Some cricket experts among India fans were predicting a draw after England completed their first innings and even after India completed their first innings. Some were brave enough to extend their predictions even after England were mid-way through their second innings. I am sure they must be very disappointed terribly at the turn of events. India will have to improve their performance few notches up to pull off a series win or draw from here

  • on August 1, 2014, 6:42 GMT

    Jaddu is not even in the top ten spinners in India, still he finds a place in test team to England.. amusing.. India will start winning wen Dhoni retires from tests n this favouritism of his stops.. Ojha, Mishra, Bhajji all sitting in India n jadeja bowling.. Ashwin warming the bench... wen all this changes, we will start winning.. start with dropping Dhoni..

  • sammysam on August 1, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    MSD is not test cricket material. He should step down and take his buddy jadeja with him. Hasnt MSD and the indian selectors learnt anything from the past thrashings. Eng will win next 2 matches unless MSD makes some drastic changes

  • legfinedeep on August 1, 2014, 6:12 GMT

    The consensus pretty much seems to be Gambhir in for Dhawan and I agree. No Rohit. Kohli, which excellent in hit and giggle fests variety of the game, is a very ordinary test player. Play him only in home games, or when the pitches are guaranteed to be flat, like the slow flat one in South Africa at Wanderers where he got a century. He has proven to be little more than a flat track bully in tests.

  • vwazalwar on August 1, 2014, 6:03 GMT

    IMO India should drop dhawan and bring in gautam, also arron must come in for pankaj singh as the pitches support bouncy n fast pace so better to stick with one fast (as ishant is out due to injury , only arron is other right arm fast). Ashwin can be given a chance seeing moeen ali's success. one more thing i like to add is "Virat can be dropped folr either jadeja or binny".. the better XI for 4th test can be


  • on August 1, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    James Anderson is a good bowler. Not better not worse. He has been effective against Sub-continent batsmen, who barring few exceptions have weakness against swing bowling due to lack of technique. He surely is not in same berth as Steyn. He may know to bowl various swings but at the end its what you get out of it, and he is limited in that regards. In current form, even Johnson leads Anderson, even if you compare their both overall career summary. If you want to compare Anderson with someone it has to be his teammate Stuart Broad. They both are bowlers with similar effect.

    Steyn for now is way ahead of others, and if Johnson is able to hold his current flair, probably then in 2-3 years down the line he may be considered as effective.

  • VinodGupte on August 1, 2014, 5:49 GMT

    What is common between Pravin Amre, Suresh Raina, Shikhar Dhawan and Nohit Sharma? Century on debut and no test career to speak of.

  • Anil_Koshy on August 1, 2014, 5:47 GMT

    India is not a good, there batsmen always struggle outside India, after the Fab 4 retired, India are yet find a replacement, they never had a good spinner after Kumble, fast bowling was never India's strength.

  • MelbourneMiracle on August 1, 2014, 5:47 GMT

    Dravid told after the Lord's win that it was a good win coz India played England's game (fast and bounce by Ishant) to beat England. I think in Ageas Bowl, England played India's game (spin and turn by Moeen Ali) to beat India :) was it karma chasing behind India? :)

  • JAHID_OMAR on August 1, 2014, 5:40 GMT

    It's again proved that INDIA is the Asia's Weakest cricketing team. With IPL & all those media Hype there fans were forced to think like that. But they cannot compete with other Giant in Asia in any format. If BD gets this much of test opportunities to play in these seaming wickets we would be performing much better than India. So England should consider reducing matches with India and give equal opportunity to other talented countries like BD.

  • Between_the_Inningses on August 1, 2014, 5:29 GMT

    It is bowlers who win Test matches (batsman can only draw Test matches). India need to play their best 4 bowlers. Why V. Aron is not playing?

  • on August 1, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    does shikhar dhawan even deserved to play?he is completely out of form and hasnt made a 50 this series im surprised that somehow cook found his form. im expecting a ton form him in next test

  • cric1965 on August 1, 2014, 5:24 GMT

    Dhawan , Jadeja will play next test also. Gautham, Aswin has to stay in bench. They are travellers who carry water to players. Team will not change significantly. Out of form players will play due to some reason. End result is another loss to India.

  • vish57 on August 1, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohili,Jadeja, Shami in Playing X1 is amusing; Pragyan Oja is not even considered for selection so is Amit Mishra. India repeatedly making the mistake of not playing a right arm leggie which is a weakness for most of the batsmen. Can Gambhir, Ashwin, Aaron/Pandey replace Dhavan, Jadeja and Shami. While England has taken 20 wickets we could effectively take 9 wickets ( 2 wickets , last in each innings are gifted wickets). Definitely if we play Rohit Sharma in 20 tests, he may come out good in 1 innings, don't take team on reputation but on performance

  • cric1965 on August 1, 2014, 5:15 GMT

    Now we can understand how Sachin was efficient than Kohli at the age of 25. Sachin was blazing all over the world in this age in both formats while Kohli only perform one days. He has to work hard in tests to come close to Tendulkar and Dravid who perform well in tests and one days. Kohli one day stats are better than Sachin but test stats are below.

  • krishna_cricketfan on August 1, 2014, 5:09 GMT

    The story repeats itself for India. 500 plus is something teams have been making of the India attack for a long time now. Follow it with either innings defeat or heavy defeat for India. Our bowlers just do not produce enough wicket taking deliveries. And she they do we drop catches or umpiring error costs us bug time. The one immediate solution is DRS. This can help us make the most of the limited bowling resources. It takes longer to get bowlers to hunt in pack. But DRS can be done in the very next series. Let us how competitive we are then! Aussies are waiting to score big time. Is this going to another 2011-2012?

  • RajSma on August 1, 2014, 5:08 GMT

    For India no need to change anything in the Batting,Bowling has cost us this match.You can never win a test match conceding 570 runs in the 1st inngs.No need for Extra batsmen,we need extra bowler so Rohit must be dropped and Ashwin must come in also shami must be dropped.Either Varun Aaron or Ishwar Pandey must come in.....Pankaj singh bowled better than Shami so he can keep his place.... IDEAL XI : Dhawan,Vj,Pujara,Kohli,Rahane,Ashwin,Dhoni,Jadeja,Bhuvi,Aaron,Pankaj. But Dhoni will pick the same side except Pankaj. DHONI XI : Dhawan,vj,Pujara,Kohli,Rahane,Rohit,Dhoni,Ashwin,Bhuvi,Jadeja,Shami. Dhoni already lost a game due to his defensive 6 batsmen approach but he'll never learn,he will again pick Rohit and God only can save India......

  • on August 1, 2014, 5:05 GMT


    Bhuvi also swings the bowl both ways and so do most swing bowlers. So by your logic they all should be better than Steyn? Fast bowling is not just about swinging the balls and landing them on the spot. Its about bowling with pace, aggression, setting the batsmen up and bowling with intent. Thats what Steyn does and thats why he is better than all current fast bowlers including Anderson.

    I don't think that Steyn and Anderson should even be compared. Just as Warne said the other day, Anderson is a very good bowler but he is not a great. Great bowlers don't have average of over 30 and strike rate of over 58. I think people just get carried away after seeing him bowl and start comparing him with Steyn.

    Steyn is the best fast bowler in the world at the moment. Anderson might be second best but there is too much of a difference between best and second best.

  • on August 1, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    Dhoni's bad team selection and mismanagement of bowlers hurting team India. Jadeja had failed in last two tests than what was his criteria of playing in the final eleven when it was clear that he lacks discipline to play in test match as a primary spinner. Bhuvnesher kumar is being burdened with longer spells than he should be bowling which is evident from the doubt of him playing in next match. Dhoni should have some faith equally in all players instead of relying on 3-4 players.

  • on August 1, 2014, 4:51 GMT

    i dont know peopole rank Indian team to hihg. it is an average team and if u want to make it sure just check their record outside subcontinent. poor performance in SA,NZ,AUS and now in ENG.

  • Greatest_Game on August 1, 2014, 4:40 GMT

    @ Realistic_cri_fan wonders "why Steyn has more wickets and better average than Jmmy even though he is a limitted bowler with the new ball."

    Because Steyn is a better bowler.

  • on August 1, 2014, 4:31 GMT

    remove dhawan, rohit jadeja and bring gambir, ashwin, and varon aron because dhawan is out of form. Rohit is waste in test cricket and Jadeja dont know whether he is playing test or one-day cricket. bring sehwag in then only we can survive in over seas. we need specalists in test tests not one day players who will throw their bats at every ball like jadeja, rohit, dhawan, raina waste of money and time

  • Greatest_Game on August 1, 2014, 4:27 GMT

    @ Realistic_cri_fan always wonders "why Steyn has more wickets and better average than Jmmy even though he is a limitted bowler with the new ball."

    Because Steyn is better. Whatever theories you may have about how Jimmy swings his balls, Steyn is simply better. We know that because he takes more wickets, at a lower average, and strike rate, than any other bowler! Coincidentally, 99.999% of cricket fans, some admittedly reluctantly, accept he is better than Jimmy. And everyone else.

  • on August 1, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    India has always proved vital in bringing lingering players back to form and converting debutants into stars. By their sheer complacent attitude in this test match, Team India has sprung Cook back into form and extended his cricket as well as captaincy tenure. Moreover India has unearthed a lethal spinner in Moeen Ali. Probably, Matt Prior got dejected too early and recognized his injury. Had he lingered on, who knows he'd also be back in form and in pink of health by this match or at max by end of the series. Indian players do not lack skill, in fact they are far superior at least as far as batting is concerned. The concern is that nobody except Rahane seemed to apply that. To me, as a Team India fan, road ahead looks quite bumpy and scary.

  • cliffdavid on August 1, 2014, 4:18 GMT

    @vish2020 : Someone was saying that "For a country like India that brings in 75 percent of game's revenue, there are lot of unappreciative fans from others countries. Getting happy at india's defeat". This is why other people don't like the Indian cricketing politics. Even the fans are getting this ridiculous attitude. Don't try to buy the game. It is a game for humans' sake. Please!!!!

  • Thotful on August 1, 2014, 4:15 GMT

    Why was Rohit in the playing XI? Stuart Binny or Ashwin could have batted just as badly and taken as many (or more) wickets. Yet another of Dhoni's loooooong term investments, sigh.

  • Indian_Kari_Pakku on August 1, 2014, 4:08 GMT

    I think India should have two different teams for home tours and over sea tours. Players like Kohli, Dhawan are not performing well over seas. We really missed Sewag here. Hope Gambir will included in next match by expense of Kohli.

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 1, 2014, 4:06 GMT

    I once again want to tell the world that James Anderson is a better swing bowler than Dale Steyn.I always admired jimmy (only for his bowling) right from the day when he took some 4/5 odd wickets against India in his first series.Why I am telling Jimmy is better swing bowler than Steyn is that Jimmy can bowl both in-swinger and out-swinger with the new ball.That's why his average against both righ handerss and left handers is almost same.But Steyn can only bowl out-swingers to the right handers with the new ball.He can't bring the ball back into the right handers (out-swinger to the left hander) with the new ball.That's why his average against the left handers is very poor.That's the main reason why Warner hit him all over the park in SA.When the ball reverses Steyn is better than Jimmy.But always wonder why Steyn has more wickets and better average than Jmmy even though he is a limitted bowler with the new ball.

  • vkumar_086. on August 1, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    If Moeen Ali a part time spinner ran through this so called great batting lineup, how will they face the best spinner in the world who is none other than Ajmal? Facts speak for itself. Moeen does not even bowl doosras so Ajmal unleashing doosras will expose the great batsmen of the world in style.

  • vkumar_086. on August 1, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    This victory showed that England are a great team indeed. Lords was too unlucky for them and we all know why. England should remember no need of uppish shots in test cricket as no need to rush. Just keep taking singles down the ground as victory in the next 2 tests will be easy as 1,2,3...

  • Indian_Kari_Pakku on August 1, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    Please drop Kohli and Dhawan. These two players are responsible for losing this match. Rohith is a better player than these two. Too bad Raina is not in the squad.

  • DeeJK on August 1, 2014, 3:54 GMT

    @Greatest_Game @Albert_cambell To say a bowler is better than another because he's taken double the wickets than another, even though he has played double the tests ( to satisfy the criteria set; matches in England ), is wrong. If you want to make a proper non-bias comparison, wait until Ali plays the same amount of tests, if at all he does. Then make a scientific judgement.

  • pandian_ikku on August 1, 2014, 3:53 GMT

    What a poor performance by India. Even they lost to weak England team. And Indian fans were hoping for 4-0 series win after they won 1 match. I believe England will win the series 3-1. Good luck English boys!

  • vish2020 on August 1, 2014, 3:53 GMT

    For a country like India that brings in 75 percent of game's revenue, there are lot of unappreciative fans from others countries. Getting happy at india's defeat. well enjoy it while you can because this series has 2 tests left and we will come back hard!!! jai hind!

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:53 GMT

    Good job England. Some room for improvement still needed ,India. Good luck for manchester

  • Albert_cambell on August 1, 2014, 3:42 GMT

    @Greatest_Game. But according to Indian fans, If a player has a better average that means he is a better player. Anil Kumbles bowling record is extremely poor on every part of the world. Lets see what they have to say on this.

  • Greatest_Game on August 1, 2014, 3:42 GMT

    I guess the "Virat Kohli is the best batsman in the world" crowd must be watching badminton or croquet or something else very exciting as we have not heard a peep from them in a while. In the ICC rankings Virat has dropped exactly 100 rating points since Feb 14 when he reached his highest ever rating. It takes some hard work to descent that quickly.

    From sweet Valentine to lowest series batting average in the India team. That not even a downhill slide - its a plummet, worthy of Monty Python's flying sheep.

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:39 GMT

    India defeated England in England using pace bowlers. Now England defeats India using spin!! Something is wrong somewhere! !:)

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:35 GMT

    I think India sorely miss sehwag here. An attacking opener could always make the difference. I dont get what is the point Indians are trying to make by playing dead defense. Attacking puts opposition at bay. Anyway, if India are to win further, team requires 5 bowlers (Considering Jadeja is a test bowler :(). Gambhir deserves a place in playing XI, and Dhoni should be replaced as a captain !!

  • Deuce03 on August 1, 2014, 3:33 GMT

    So there's a very real possibility that Anderson, arguably England's most important player of the last few years, will be missing from Old Trafford, which leaves England in need of a new opening bowler. Who does Graham Onions have to boff to get into the squad?

  • srinideva on August 1, 2014, 3:28 GMT

    I sick and tired of hearing that Ashwin is not suitable for overseas tours. how many matches he played? only 4. Can you name a player who is successful in overseas from a start in Indian cricket. H singh have done nothing in Aus, go and check the stats. Ashwin picked up 9 wickets in Australia where our Indian batting legends couldn't score a 300+ in an inns. How can you blame a spinner for that loss?

  • Greatest_Game on August 1, 2014, 3:26 GMT

    @ Albert_cambell noted an "Interesting statistical comparison between Moeen Ali and Kumble in English soil. Kumble in Eng- 10 matches 36 wkts avg 41. Moeen in Eng- 5 matches 18 wickets Avg 32. I guess dont need to say anymore about who is better bowler here."

    No, you don't need to say another thing. Kumble took 36 wickets. That is twice as many as Moeen's 18. It's not rocket science that the guy who takes more wickets is better.

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:26 GMT

    The Indian team has a bunch of talented guys who have played some amazing cricket over the last 7 matches overseas ( 3L out of 7 is still not as bad for a team whose average test cricket age is less than 10) ...but one has to admit Dhoni looks tactically clueless in the longer version and its been showing on for 3 years now , especially in overseas conditions ...would be interesting to see how they come back after this loss

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:18 GMT

    Does ego count in cricket? why I am asking this question because Root took a wicket and at that time he had bowled 2 overs and took 1 wicket and he was bowling very well too. But Cook did not give him even one more over. It was baffling to say the least why one or couple of more overs were not given to him. I came up with so many explanations but none was convincing for one or other reason and then I found out one interesting thing, in the celebration by england on the ground that immediately followed after Root took the wicket Root deliberately or accidentally did not properly interact with Cook, rather he looked like avoiding Cook, in fact he should have been hi fiving with Cook and thanking him for giving him the bowling but Root did not show these gestures so is it possible Cook got hurt and his ego came in the way of giving Root at least 1 additional over? England would not have lost any initiative by giving 1 more over to Root. Strange Root did not get even 1 extra over.

  • Greatest_Game on August 1, 2014, 3:16 GMT

    @ Arun Bose promises "If India doesn't win this series and doesn't comeback hard in the next two test matches then as a loyal, die-hard Indian fan promise you all that I will never ever come back here and bother you again."

    Yes you will. You will just use a different name. No one is fooled by your "promise."

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:15 GMT

    What the Indian team has to remember at this moment is not to get bogged down. After a long time we have won a test in foreign soil, which means that we are in the right path. The opposition team will not be generous enough to give one an opportunity to come back, just what England did. So the Indians have to stick to the basics and bounce back. Congratulations to England for their clinical performance. I am sure that India will bounce back against them and make the series far from dullness.

  • Albert_cambell on August 1, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    Interesting statistical comparison between Moeen Ali and Kumble in English soil. Kumble in Eng- 10 matches 36 wkts avg 41. Moeen in Eng- 5 matches 18 wickets Avg 32. I guess dont need to say anymore about who is better bowler here. @black_bird. Winning by 100 runs is called a huge margin? India were really lucky to win at lords.

  • Lion_Wallaby on August 1, 2014, 3:10 GMT

    @vkias: Good on you mate!! I am glad that you understood the truth at least now. Indian team just overrated and one of worst going around! As you rightly said Kholi is an epic failure too. Being an Indian fan you have started to tell the truth. Welcome to the real world mate!!

  • Greatest_Game on August 1, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    @ bMike commented "Honestly I don't remember the last time India won an away test series. Was it in 1980's?"

    India must have won way tests in the 80's. All they needed to do was to tour England. England was soooooo bad in the 80's I'm not sure if they won a series. If Sri Lanka, Bangladesh & Zimbabwe all had test status through the 80's they would have beaten England too.

  • entryholedia on August 1, 2014, 2:57 GMT

    We all wish that India wins tests both abroad and at home . But we simply do not have attacks which can dismiss sides twice over . See all the past records when we had incisive attacks except the Golden spin era of Bedi Chandra Pras Venkat quartet & only later much later Kumble & Harbhajan . One single class seam bowler in Kapil Dev because Zaheer even in the twilight of his career was not consistent enough to be classed like Kapil

  • md4cric on August 1, 2014, 2:55 GMT

    Had Rohit Sharma and Ajinkya NOT gifted their First innings wickets could've added atleast 40-50 runs playing about 25 overs thus lead would've been 200 runs and Cook could've gotten 15-25 overs to bowl to India with 350-370 target and sure he may not have all India wickets today as India could've lost only 1 instead of 4 yesterday-so NO big problems if Batsman keeps focus on. Now with 1-1 -Indian bowling needs strength.Ashwin gets wicket after 77 runs outside Sub Conti so he's out of Q, May be Rohit and Murali could practice their OFF breaks. Go India--Dhoni still is a calm and Cool leader--may not be charsmatic but then who"ll be better than hiim?

  • on August 1, 2014, 2:54 GMT

    Someone who has been following up cricket for several decades now (> 40 years) and analyze cricket intensely this is the one mystery I will nerve be able to solve; Why is that injured or out of form bowler bowls wide of the off stump or wide of the leg stump line? The most productive line for a bowler is just on the off stump or just one or 2 inches off side to the off stump but these injured or off form bowlers always struggle to bowl this line. I can understand Broad is bit injured but why that forces him to bowl away from the off stump, similarly I can understand Jordan is bit off form but why that should force him to forget that off stump line? Match after match it is shown that the best line is on the off stump or just out side the off stump which gives least runs to the batsman and gives maximum wickets to the bowler but why the injured or off form bowler always find it difficult to bowl in that corridor? A perennial mystery for me.

  • on August 1, 2014, 2:48 GMT

    India must keep in mind, attacking the opponent will only create a win no matter how the session is being outplayed from you. They got too defensive too early in the first innings. Claiming Ishant being missed isn't an excuse to overshadow the loss. The way Jadeja was used was a major flaw. Oh boy it's a win win for England. English batsmen batted the test as if they were facing hopeless bowling attack. Once again Anderson did what he does best. Using his swing to take crucial early wickets but still felling sorry for Broad and Woakes not being able to knock some wickets though were exceptional with their efforts. Moeen Ali, you beauty what else can be said about him. When many Indian critics designated him as a part timer and as quoted "mustn't be given the respect Indian batsmen were showing". Well now i guess, he has turned the table around. You can't deny respect to him now. He can be a greater assets as a bowler too.Happy for you happy for England. A big loss to India is awaiting

  • SeanB on August 1, 2014, 2:48 GMT

    The pitch that SA played against SL was helping spinners. And SL had two genuine spinners. Still SA drew. Ind made Root look like Swann and Ali like Warne. Spineless batting.

  • entryholedia on August 1, 2014, 2:33 GMT

    India have been always 'good' never 'excellent' by that I mean a team which could take 20 wickets and Batsmen who could score 400 every time they played . England & Australia have always been on the top both pre-war post-war eras. The English & Aussies somehow have always had quality players which could combine to beat us convincingly. In the present team there is absolutely no consistency at all !!! the team which is terribly lopsided team & was slated for 5-0 bashing , takes us fans to the moon by a "never to be believed type win" & then simply dump us by their abject surrender in the next . The skipper then says our approach was right to attack . Now there will be no Ishant in the remaining two & again the same attack will bowl because they have to go through the motions aimlessly knowing very well they can't dismiss England & Batsmen will attack & the outcome is a foregone conclusion. India has allowed generation of a la-Saqlain Mushtaq in a Moeen Ali which is simply unacceptable

  • basusri133b on August 1, 2014, 2:26 GMT

    Test Cricket is not Dhoni's cup of tea. His Captaincy has been tactcally unsound.His Wicket Keeping has become shoddy. If crucial catches on day one and two were held; we could have held out for a draw. The positioning of the slip cordon is too deep. Since none of our bowlers have real pace; catches fall short in the slips. A couple of feet closer will make a significant difference.Playing only four bowlers is asking for trouble. We are now reaping the result of this policy. When a spinner can take six wickets; it shows a terrible lack of confidence and application in our batsmen. Pujara and Kholi need to shape up. We cannot carry passengers in the team. Past performance and reputation is meaningless if you do not perform in the present.If they cant hack it they need to be dropped. This goes for Dhawan and R.Sharma also. This is the weakest fielding side that I have seen in a long time. The Indian think tank has to quickly coone up with some answers.

  • IAS2009 on August 1, 2014, 2:26 GMT

    India was totally outplayed in this game, the attitude in first two test was the batsmen prized their wickets, chasing 400 plus runs and most batsmen played poor shots to get out, It was impossible to chase the target so they should left as much as they could like Vijay did in prior innings, but his run out was the turning point of the game, win or loose India should have least make England bowlers tired to get their wickets. Poor tactic from all batsmen who did so well in 2nd test. regardless of who plays the core 11 will almost same, it is the attitude that they should work on, they have to believe in themselves, there was nothing in pitch, bat like SA did in SL, they just was not interested in runs at all, if match is lost individual score don't mean anything, England have wide open field and inviting batsmen to play drive, what is the point of scoring that boundary if there is chance to get out.

  • Sniper on August 1, 2014, 2:24 GMT

    There is something seriously wrong with Team selection. If Moeen Ali could take 8 wickets in the match, I am sure Ashwin could have done equally well, if not better. England could not have made high scores or at high run rate, if their bowlers had bowled better. The pacers did not get much swing and Jadeja was ineffective as ever. Why MSD is not taking Ashwin in the team is a mystery? Is there some off-field reason for the same ? Ashwin seems to be resolved to his fate as he sits reading a book in the dressing room. There is definitely more than what meets the eye.. Finally, one can not but ask the inevitable question as to whether MSD should captain the Indian Test team ?

  • on August 1, 2014, 2:23 GMT

    Moeen's six wickets is quite commendable. Indians are supposed to play the spinners the best. Maybe too much of precaution let them down.Trying evasive measures against Broad and Anderson, they forgot to attack Moeen. Jadeja is probably missing his spinning companion in Aswin. They should create hell for the English bats. Regarding the two cases involving Jadeja and Anderson, why weren't they handled at the same time by ICC ?

  • on August 1, 2014, 2:09 GMT

    I won't make many changes to this team after just one loss in a five test match series where they won the previous match on a pitch where most sub-continent teams would surrender after just looking at the colour of the pitch.. India won there by 95 runs! I will never drop Dhawan as he batted well in the 2nd innings at Southampton.. Gambhir is just a fisher outside off-stump line.. Please no Rohit again.. His fielding has declined, His bowling is just aweful, And he's like a zombie with the bat.. He's like a dead man walking wicket whenever he arrives on the field to bat.. Ashwin in for Jadeja, Aaron and Pandey in..Shami should be rested.. My team: Dhawan, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Pandey, Aaron, Pankaj This is my team for the next two matches..If lambu gets fit for fifth test then he should replace Bhuvi as he needs some serious rest..England must not get complacent after this one win after a losing streak of 10 losses.. Well played though, You deserved it..

  • on August 1, 2014, 2:09 GMT

    Finally England could manage a victory. Cook should touch the feet of the pitch-curator for providing this kind of a flat surface to get the runs easily. Of course he has to touch the feet of Jadeja for the missed catch. This is indian way of saying thank you. The slip catching of the Indians was woeful. Imagine Rohit's attempt to catch Root in the slips. Simply disgusting ! In the first place what is Rohit doing in England with the team where the ball swings all the way. Can one ever forget his first three overs in SA - he simply could not touch the ball. The explosive Virat is going through a lean patch. He is the best bat around even after putting all the England bats together. It is a question of time. Why is Aswin warming the bench ? And why is Umesh Yadav not with the team. Seems the bowlers have forgotten the art of bowling yorkers. Rahane is an asset. Dhoni should hog all the accolades for the victory at lords. Afterall beating the the lords at Lords was fabulous!

  • black_bird on August 1, 2014, 2:08 GMT

    why people are bashing mighty india?. remember, still india is world champion. and they defeated england with huge margin just a moment ago. they will do it again.

  • vik-expert on August 1, 2014, 2:02 GMT

    This test match was a gift from India to England. 4 Dropped catches, Useless umpires and people mumbling about DRS but they are noticing about quality of umpiring is going down day by day. Let's move on. Next test match Indian team should be 1.Gambhir 2.Vijay 3.Pujara 4.Kohli 5.Rahane 6.MS Dhoni 7. Ashwin 8. Jadeja / Binny 9. B Kumar 10. V Aron 11. Pankaj Singh. This the best team you can pick. Rohit is not a century maker. He is the laziest player I ever seen & Dhawan is the weirdest cricketer I ever seen. The problem with Shami, he is carrying a injury which Indian team management is aware of but they don't want to give him break. V Aron is a gamble. Best of luck for the next test match.

  • pratit on August 1, 2014, 1:56 GMT

    In the previous match England competed throughout before a momentary brain fade led them to lose the match. In this match, India were behind all through. Wrong team selection, pathetic spineless batting, lazy running between the wickets, abysmal fielding, toothless bowling- there were no positives at all. On the other hand, for England everything is falling into place. Cook, Bell got runs. Moeen got wickets and their seamers bowled with pace. If Plunkett and Stokes come back their bowling will get even better. If the rest of the series is played on sporting pitches and weather does not intervene, I expect England to win 3-1. Actually, before the tour began I did not expect India to win any with a captain like Dhoni. On another note, I cannot understand Cricinfo's criteria for filtering comments. My earlier comment to a similar tone was not posted. I think every opinion should be posted in this forum as long as it is not abusive. That is why people visit these pages.

  • Welay-White-Water on August 1, 2014, 1:50 GMT

    Preserving greetings for the series winner, convincing win by the founders ENG after a long long time. ENG. 2nd innings 205 runs scored plus 1st innings excess 61 (239 - 178) were in vain. As I said yestd it was like an innings win. Calculations always sums up before electing final 11. Problem may be in 11. if you may field 11 + 3 that is 14 within the same boundary encircling same extent as before when you sense defeat is a co-operative option but no option in cricket and that extra 3 reserved with 12th man, if they too can contribute for sake of cric population, what's wrong with that? IND may be needing expert consultancy from a guy like Sana who was a master in both ODI and Tests with some cracking 20/20 performances,master in changing those 3 gears up and down,down and up is readily available if the neighbor really really make a sincere official request......

  • Rufus_Fuddleduck on August 1, 2014, 1:49 GMT

    So Dhoni did what two management teams struggled to do - he got the England team to win a Test. How noble of him to take three and a half bowlers into a Test. And will that change anything in the Indian set up? You bet. One more bowler will be reduced, one more batsman will be added. Clarion call for Suresh Raina?

  • IndCricFan2013 on August 1, 2014, 1:47 GMT

    I won't make batting changes. Stick with the same top 6. Drop Dhawan for Australia tour, if does not get a 100 or couple of good performances in the next two tests, Gambhir can play all tests in Australia. Stick with Kohli, even for Australia even if he fails in all 5 tests. The reason to bring in so many bowlers is to play them. Dhoni should rest B.Kumar and brind in Pandey. Also test Shami and bring in Aaron. Also Ashwin for Jadeja. So, Pankaj + Pandey + Aaron + Ashwin for next test. B.Kumar and Ishant should come back for last test in place of Pankaj and as 5th bowler, ie play 5 bowlers in the last test to try and win the series.

  • Alexk400 on August 1, 2014, 1:01 GMT

    When i see Moeen and tahir , there is a big difference. Tahir floats the ball , moeen ball has zip...it follows the track he sends the ball. Can be big asset for england for many years to come.

  • Sunil_Canada on August 1, 2014, 0:54 GMT

    Three changes - Ishant for Pankaj, Ashwin for Rohit or Shami and Gautam for Shikhar.

  • rk_ks on August 1, 2014, 0:24 GMT

    @Lakshman Muddu: His first class average is 40 and definetely he is no better than Kohli. How can he replace Virat Kohli. Can you please justify. And Varun Aaron is not a test bowler. Atleast first class stats should help in deciding who to bring and who not to bring.

  • rk_ks on August 1, 2014, 0:22 GMT

    @ CurrentPresident: The squad size is only 15 for this England tour not 150.

  • dunger.bob on August 1, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    This is exactly what this series needed from the spectators point of view. It's all even with 2 games to go, there seems to have been a sudden and comprehensive swing in momentum and at this point it's game on. What started out as a fairly turgid, low quality affair has suddenly escalated into something much more interesting. .. good stuff from both sides and, as they say in the classics, 'let the games begin'.

  • Rick_T on July 31, 2014, 23:39 GMT

    GRVJPR - You are incorrect. To quote you "Everyone is lion in their own den." And "Every team wins at home."

    Well, so far in 2014 there have been 6 completed Test series. 5 of them were won by the AWAY team.

    SRI beat BAN in BAN. AUS beat SAF in SAF. NZ beat WI in WI. SRI beat ENG in ENG and SAF beat SRI in SRI. The only exception is India who went to New Zealand and lost.

    Furthermore, in at least 3 of those wins, the Home team was the strong or clear favourite to win. May be 4. I didn't bet on the SRI v SAF series so I'm not sure who was favourite in that one. The only series where the Away team was the favourite would have been the BAN v SRI series.

    Clearly, your pronouncements are rendered invalid by the facts.

  • vick2025 on July 31, 2014, 23:35 GMT

    As an Indian fan I am disappointed with this result and I had hoped India will do better today but this is why cricket is so interesting and unpredictable. I mean if you told me after the Lords game that Eng will win the next game and Ali will take 6 Indian wickets then I would have replied something along the lines of you being crazy..haa...But face it people..Ali did well today and even more, England did their best today than ever. Eng played well from the 1st session and were pretty much leading in all the sessions after that. So a very deserved Congratulations to Eng. You guys did very well today and I am sure you made your country and your fans happy. On the other hand, I hope India changes their team selection for the next game and go back to the 5 bowler attack than 4. I hope to see Ashwin and Aaron in the next game. Whatever the outcome maybe, I bet it will be one interesting game coming up since the score is leveled now. Waiting patiently.

  • Prakmca on July 31, 2014, 23:20 GMT

    Ridiculous. Dhawan failed in 3 tests in a row....Why not he replaced with Gambhir.... Gambhir better player than Dhawan in all formats...

    Next Jadeja, Why he is in team in all formats, Only DHONI knew about that......England spinner knocked down India... Ashwin is better bowler/batman than Jadeja....

    All talked about, Dhawan like Sehwag.... Though Sehwag is not in great form, he is having the class. He essayed so many victories for India...Dhawan is not answer for India's opener in Tests....

    Why Jadeja is IN and why Gambhir is OUT - DHONI has to answer.......Poor tactics.....

  • kishayeah on July 31, 2014, 23:19 GMT

    I think the Indians slip fielding had cost us this game. No disrespect to England team, but India had played poor defensive cricket both with the bat and ball. I sincerely hope for the next match they replace Rohit with Ashwin and Shami with Pandey or Varoon. Good luck INDIA.

  • fguy on July 31, 2014, 23:15 GMT

    when dhoni went against his natural, defensive instincts in 1st 2 tests by playing 5 bowlers he won 1 test & drew the other. here he reverted back to type & what did he get? a thumping loss. shows that in tests the aggressive captains will succeed more than the defensive ones

    the extra "batsman" gave you what 35 runs across 2 inngs. extra bowler would've definitely saved double that at least.

    imagine if nohit had played instead of binny in 1st test. no way he would've scored that 76 in tough situation like binny did & we might've very well lost that test too on the flattest of wickets

    i wonder if dhoni keeps playing ppl like jadeja, nohit etc in tests bcoz he knows he's poor in it so if he surrounds himself with equally poor players some of the blame will get deflected

  • sammysam on July 31, 2014, 23:15 GMT

    Dhoni should hang his head in shame. He is not a test cricketer. The best thing he could do is stand down from the test team and take his mates with him (ie: jadeja) The India A team currently playing in Aus is much better than this team. 1 overseas win is nothing to be proud off. End will win the remaining matches.

  • fguy on July 31, 2014, 23:14 GMT

    cook was under such pressure before this match that 1 more failure would've prob'ly broken him. bcoz of that the whole eng team was under tremendous pressure. but what do we do? allowing the captain to regain form has wider repercussions than just the runs he will make. its harsh but true that if we go on to lose the series from here its all thanks to sir jadeja & his dozy catching. on such small margins whole series can turn.

  • fguy on July 31, 2014, 23:11 GMT

    what exactly has fletcher contributed in 3+ years. techniques are the same, bowlers discipline is same, catching is shoddy. he cant even read the pitch well. this pitch was taking turn from day 2 & still we played a LOI spinner.

    looks like dhoni thinks shami is actually named sharma. cant/wont be dropped despite performing poorly for ages now.

    dhoni talks such rubbish sometimes "5th bowler only bowled 10 overs in the match". who is responsible for that? did binny tell him after 10 overs "sorry brah but thats my quota, i cant bowl any more"?! also specifically naming rahane as person who played bad shot in 1st inngs. what about nohit? he deserves to be dropped forever just for that shot.

  • on July 31, 2014, 23:09 GMT

    if dhoni want a win he must go with vijay gambir pujara kohli rahane dhoni ashwin jadeja buvi varun and ishwar pandey

  • jb633 on July 31, 2014, 22:39 GMT

    Such a strange series where both sets of fans (and rightly so) are down on their team. It is almost a case of who can play the least worst cricket rather than the best. Despite this win I am still hugely concerned. The back up bowling behind broad and Jimmy looks so weak. Plunkett and Stokes (neither of whom are top class) would still be preferable to the donky drops of Woakes and Jordan. I really hope Finn finds form soon as we desperately need him fit and firing. If Jimmy is banned I am not sure who we can give the new ball to as swing against India is far more deadly than pace.

  • vivkr on July 31, 2014, 22:34 GMT

    Well well, how things change, don't they? Just a bit over a week ago, I was wondering why everyone was yelling for Cook's head when England suffered a collapse after having more or less matched India over four days. Now, everyone is asking for wholesale changes to the Indian line-up. As if that would provide a wonder drug.

    What is needed is for the players to show more application, train harder at nets and show some backbone. It would help if we'd get rid of no-good part-timers like Rohit Sharma, though. One hopes that Ishant can return. Pankaj Singh bowled well if without luck and needs to stay and try harder in the next Tests.

    But it's not just about player selection. It is about application. That's what Test cricket is all about.

  • on July 31, 2014, 22:18 GMT

    After the danger signs observed in the Lord's test, Dhoni had two options. 1. Address the batting issues by bringing in Rohit. It was Bhuvi who bailed us out on more occasions than one. 2. Address the spin bowling concerns by bringing in Ashwin. With Jadeja you always know what you are going to get i.e. steady overs which at times is important but Ashwin brings in the x-factor but can leak runs on a given day.

    He chose the former. We went on to loose the test because of our bowling. Ishant's absence did make a difference n so did slip catching but had Ashwin been in the ranks we would have fared much better. Moreover. Bunny did not come into the picture in the first two tests only because England were getting out cheaply. Had those been high scoring innings, he would have bowled a lot more. India should always play with 5 bowlers come what may. Overall It was a negative n defensive move to try and hold onto the 1-0 series lead.

  • InsideHedge on July 31, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    Regarding Moeen Ali, I found it interesting that he bowled several deliveries with revs indicating a classical off spinning delivery but the ball either went straight on or even straightened. The two deliveries he dismissed Shami and Pankaj with were good enough for top order batters.

    Moeen has been takings lots of first class wickets for Worcester over the last 3 seasons but that's been in the 2nd Division. There's enough of a gap between First Div and Test cricket but to go from 2nd Division to Tests this seamlessly is both a big surprise and a testament to his skills.

    India have a real problem now, he's been all over Virat who's easily our best batsman. Pretty much all our batters, they need a plan to counter him and Dhoni's "we need to play shots" reeks of desperation. That's already been tried and failed. How about trying to read his hand?

  • Kays789 on July 31, 2014, 22:06 GMT

    So regular service resumes again for India. They played the same as they did in the previous test except this time England showed up. Won't be seeing anything different in the next two games either.

  • JG2704 on July 31, 2014, 22:03 GMT

    May I just credit most of the Indian fans who have admitted they were defeated by the better side in this particular match. Obviously there are a few sourpusses who can't accept when a team is beaten fair and square but I think most fans from both sides accept their team's vulnerabilities. 3-1 to either side or 2-2 - no scoreline would surprise me from here in

  • AbdulRauf-99 on July 31, 2014, 22:02 GMT

    @Prasheeja Kumari, Seriously?? drop kohli? i am from Pakistan and i am not a fan of virat kohli either, but i think that's really unfair to him, he delivered so much in the past, and after 3 tests without preforming, people are already criticizing him...

  • InsideHedge on July 31, 2014, 22:00 GMT

    Wow, what a thrashing we've received. Not only did England win every session, but every hour of every session. We won the odd over where we didn't lose a wicket and managed a boundary.

    Cook deservedly receives criticism for his bland captaincy but here's some food for thought: Given the outcome of this Test, there's a strong possibility that Cook will lead England to series win after being behind. TWICE. Both times against India. Both times with MS Dhoni as his counterpart.

    Now, what does that make of Dhoni's leadership? I know you're only as good as your team but he's incapable - despite an army of experts - of reading the pitch correctly and selecting a balanced 11. He also *thinks* India played badly. No kidding!

  • Andy.Ingo on July 31, 2014, 21:59 GMT

    Dropped catches lose matches. How many runs did India give away by dropping regulation catches and giving England much needed extra lives? Cook should have been sent packing cheaply once again!

  • JG2704 on July 31, 2014, 21:57 GMT

    @ Doctorlogic on (July 31, 2014, 14:21 GMT) Must admit JA does get the benefit alot. However I'd say the pitch offered little assistance to Jimmy in the 1st inns whereas it gave Ali plenty of help in the 2nd. I like Bell's contribution in the 1st inns as he both held the inns together and upped the tempo

    @ Rakesh Wadhwani on (July 31, 2014, 15:01 GMT) Things aren't totally rosy re English cricket even if we win 3-1. Cook had a much better game but 1 decent game doesn't make him a great captain just like one inns in helpful conditions doesn't suddenly make Ali a proper spinner and 1 inns doesn't make Jos the new English Gilchrist.

  • JG2704 on July 31, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    @Arun Bose on (July 31, 2014, 13:44 GMT) Whatever happens , it's not the 3-5/0 thrashing you promised us. Still , well done for coming out of hiding and actually saying well played to England . BTW , I have never said that India were poor and always said that both sides are vulnerable which I think has already been proven. If we win 3-1 it doesn't mean we've turned the corner and if we lose 3-1 it doesn't mean India has. Please remember that in the preview - when the Eng squad was announced - you came onto the thread where not one person was talking in a derogatory manner about India and people only talked about India in response when you - and not one other Indian poster at the time - started telling us how bad a side we were

    @GRVJPR on (July 31, 2014, 14:16 GMT) I'm no Aus fan but they did it in SA which surely counts for something.

  • thebrownie on July 31, 2014, 21:48 GMT

    Well done England. As I commented before, India was lucky to win the first test. And all the reports of why Dhoni did this and that, and how Dhoni and Fletcher were working well together after one win was cringe worthy1

  • Bengal-Tigers-Roar on July 31, 2014, 21:44 GMT

    I am utterly surprised how every1 forgot abt Binny. 2 Tests both of whuch u didnt lose.1 where he made a match saving contribution. and the other where he wasnt as lucky. Dhoni, Jadeja have terribly let down Pankaj and Binny with their catching. But in ne case Dhoni was ryt when he sd we need a seam bowling allrounder. I am as surprised as ne1 y he didnt do accordingly wd Binny in the field. India has to have Binny a greener pitch in Manchester probably awaits them. Aaron for Shami, Gambhir for Dhawan , Ashwin for Jadeja, and Binny for Rohit/Kohli. On current basis it has to be Kohli who sits out. I am a Kohli fan too but I think India shud look at how Australia treats its superstar Warner and do accordingly. Praise him when he deserves boot him when he is failing regularly.

  • 5wombats on July 31, 2014, 20:51 GMT

    A couple of people here claiming that every team is a lion in their own country.... This sounds like 2011 all over again - i.e. that this England win doesn't count because England are at at home. Give it up please. Anyway - it's not true that every country is a lion in their own home is it? Look at South Africa - beaten by Australia in SA, Look at India - they were beaten in India by England 18 months ago, and England were beaten by SL a few weeks ago. Its a pity that people like @GRVJPR and @fan1099 on (July 31, 2014, 12:59 GMT) can't give England a bit of credit where it is due. @fan1099; "This england side won mainly due to luck and silly mistakes by India". Guy - what is the point in playing the greatest game if it's just luck? Why don't we just get out some dice and roll them, eh? Give it up.

  • Zomac on July 31, 2014, 20:35 GMT

    irrespective of all those dropped catches n umpiring decisions goin against India,England wer the better team n deserved to win.india must not think too much about dis defeat n should try to correct bot things that went wrong.it starts with the team selection dis should be d team for the 4th test: gambhir in for dhawan for the sole purpose dat he is experienced at this level n seems hungry to perform after a absence of 2 years,ashwin for jadeja dis is a no brainer decision,Aaron for shami who seems to be jaded n needs to be rested.rohit can be persisted but still naman ojha had a great A tour of Australia he can also be considered solely as a batsman,Rahane should be promoted to 4 since he's in too good a form to bat low dis should be the team(1)vijay(2)gambhir(3)pujara(3)rahane(5)kohli(6)rohit/naman ojha(7)dhoni(8)ashwin(9)bhuvi(10)pankaj/ishant(if fit) (11)aaron

  • AltafPatel on July 31, 2014, 20:17 GMT

    Batsmen scored big hundreds, fasters took wickets, spinner took wicket. An ideal sporting pitch.

  • on July 31, 2014, 20:07 GMT

    What I'm thinking i- if England bat this well against such an ordinary Indian bowling attack, Warner, Clarke, Smith et all will have a feast come December down under.

  • mzm149 on July 31, 2014, 20:05 GMT

    LOL. Its funny to see how people are demanding to kick Kohli out who just before this series was next Sir Don Bradman for some people. He is an average test batsman with limited technique and zero tolerance and patience. He has not won his team a single test in seaming and swinging conditions of New Zealand, England, South Africa and Australia. Let him play so that his flaws will be thoroughly exposed.

  • UnbiasedCricFan on July 31, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    So sick of people blaming the full loss on Dhoni, Its a TEAM EFFORT. Not to deny Dhoni contributed to the failure but he made some runs, helped us win the Lords test but due to Ishant's injury needed to change the balance in the team. It's not his fault his top order failed to make use of their starts, It's not his fault the bowlers were missing their line and lengths. what his fault was some defensive field mindset and drop catching. Apart from Dhoni no one in the team is compatible to take on the Captaincy. Also how can you compare this to the 2011 tour India never were the slightest ready in the tour. India played well the first two tests, but slipped due to a change of balance in the team. We are still way into the series and on par with England. India will definitely bounce back once they have the right combination. Also how on earth are people blaming Dhoni for not bringing Ashwin in the team? It's not like Dhoni gets to view the pitch before the match! He expects a green top.

  • vvsp on July 31, 2014, 20:00 GMT

    Team India, Your hard earned lead is so easily given away now, Please FIGHT guys! You sud have put in atleast 20-30% of effort and intent SA has shown a week back. Pathetic performance and Time for Dhoni to go.

  • Mohammad-Ali on July 31, 2014, 19:58 GMT

    India should replace Dhawan with Ghambir, Shami with Binny, Jadeja with Ashwin. And give Kholi a rest too. XI for the next test: 1. Vijay, 2. Ghambir, 3. Pujara, 4. Rahane, 5. Rohit, 6. Dhoni, 7. Ashwin, 8. Binny, 9. Kumar, 10. Pankaj, 11. Ishwar Pandey

    Vijay scoring runs already. Ghambir will give stability to opening. Pujara has a good temperament, Rahane in form already, Rohit just played 1 test and deserves another chance. Dhoni - captain cool, Ashwin waiting for his chance, Binny can't worst than Shami as of now. Kumar taking wickets already. Pankaj has good FC average and deserves another match. Ishwar has good FC average too. Should be in next XI.

    England should consider playing Plukett in next test.

    Suggestions from Pakistan #CrickeLover

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:53 GMT

    Four changes Rest kohli, bring in Naman Ojha. Drop Dhawan, bring in Gambhir Drop Shami, bring in Aaron Drop Jadeja, bring in Ashwin

    XI Vijay, gambhir, pujara, rohit sharma, naman ojha, ajinkya rahane, msd, ashwin, bhuvi, Aaron, Pankaj/IcPandey

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:36 GMT

    Well done England, congrats. Well deserved win for an all round effort. The difference between the two teams in this test match was the difference in their attitudes. While Team India approached the test with a draw in mind, Cook & Co. came with a strong will & intention to win and they did it with splendid display of batting, bowling and, to top it all, excellent fielding. Moeen, their part time spinner, did a great job with the ball with disciplined bowling, while our "specialist spinner", Jadeja, failed to deliver. Dhoni's defensive tactics will not win matches. If he had gone for a win at Ageas Bowl, he could have come out at least with a draw, if not win. Hope India will learn their lessons and will go to Manchester with some purpose. Dhoni should call back Ashwin in place of Jadeja and Varun/Umesh in place of Shami and shed the additional weight of Rohit. The best bowling combination, depending on the pitch, will be Kumar, Ishant, Varun, Umesh, and Ashwin. Good luck Team India.

  • stormy16 on July 31, 2014, 19:33 GMT

    Didnt see this result commng after 'green top' disastr for Eng in the last game and full credit to Eng and what's more Cook and Bell are back and Butler has come off with flying colors. I still cant get over how India cannot find a place for Ashwin. This wicket would habe suited him and in my mind he is ahead of Jadeja as a spinner. They played Binny and a big strong chap in the 3 test but surely Ashwin is way ahead of either option. Indian top order consists of Vijay only and Dhawan, Pujara and Kholi need to stand up soon.

  • CurrentPresident on July 31, 2014, 19:32 GMT

    Here is how India can do better (may result in victory): - Pick three pacers and two spinners Bhuvi, Yadav and Ishant (keep rotating one spot b/w the pool of bowlers to keep them fresh and hungry - Shami, Aaron, Pankaj, Mohit...) Ashwin, Jadeja (Rasool, Harbhajan, Akshar, Ojha, Misra...)

    - Pick batsmen who can bat longer Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Rahane, Kohli, Saha (keep rotating one spot)

    - Train specialist slip fielders in Pujara, Vijay and Kohli

    Attack more. You may still lose, but you won't feel deflated after a loss and will also win more. Every bowler should be in the team as a wicket taking bowler (not someone who can hold for 10 overs). For batsmen, number of balls lasted should matter more than the strike rate.

    This is how India needs to play test cricket.

    For ODIs - Dhoni and his thinking is still the best India has.

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:18 GMT

    I wish Dhoni and India stop playing test matches. It is too painful for me to watch. I still remember 0-8 loss loss to England and Australia. The way India played this test match, 1-3 loss looks likely in this series too.

  • CodandChips on July 31, 2014, 19:13 GMT

    What I've noticed with the England team I selected is not enough bowling but plenty of batting. Shows how annoying the selected squad is. Perhaps England need to select bowlers to take 20 wickets?

  • CodandChips on July 31, 2014, 19:12 GMT

    For India I'd bring in Ashwin. Ashwin was your second best batsman when England toured India in 2012. His spin would also add a bit more to your bowling attack, and give the seamers a bit of a rest.

    I'd rest Kumar. He looks tired. He'll be vital to your world cup plans with his extraordinary economical spells. Look after him. Perhaps Shami needs a rest also.

    If Sharma is fit bring him in. Keep Pankaj; he bowled well on Sunday and was unlucky.

    Give Kohli a rest. Supremely talented but struggling.

    Hence I'd go with:

    India- 1.Dhawan 2.Vijay 3.Pujara 4.Rahane 5.Sharma 6.Ashwin 7.Dhoni 8.Jadeja 9.10.11. (3 seamers including Pankaj Singh)

    England- 1.Cook 2.Robson 3.Ballance 4.Bell 5.Root 6.Ali 7.Woakes 8.Stokes 9.Buttler 10.Plunkett. 11.Jordan/Anderson

  • Pritt32 on July 31, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    Hats off to England for silencing the critics with excellent win against India, who have been comprehensively outplayed. Alarm bells should be ringing in the Indian team, as the memories of discatrous 2011 tour will start to haunt. Can India play abroad in different conditions? The batmen lacked application and technique. The bowling was yet again awful. India need Ashwin, Ojha, Gambhir and Kholi should be dropped, as he is struggling outside of stump. The stubborn Dhoni needs to realise this. His captaincy has been very poor. The manner of the defeat hurts. The dispirited performance is unacceptable. I feel England will win the series on the basis of this performance. India are heading same direction as the 2011 tour, as this heavy defeat raises serious questions about the Indian team ability to play quality seam bowling and on diferent pitches.

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:01 GMT

    Drop Dhoni Drop Kohli Drop Rohit Drop Dhawan Drop Jadeja bring in some 20-22 year kids and maybe Ashwin and Binny. Hand over captaincy to Pujara or Rahane.

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:01 GMT

    Congratulations to Cook and his team on the win. Disappointed with the way India planned the Test match. Selection flaw.. genuine spinner who can bat a bit( Ashwin )should have played instead of Rohit especially with 3-4 Left handed English batsmen.(Both Cook and Ballance exploited it). Dhoni's defensive captaincy,frozen mind and non- proactive attitude especially when the English batsmen were settling in the middle led to loss equally. To win the next two test matches Dhoni and his men have to show a lot of aggression in the bowling and fielding department (a lot from Dhoni himself) to win at least 1 more test in the remaining 2 tests.

  • on July 31, 2014, 18:59 GMT

    one big problem that india has in test cricket is MS Dhoni's overseas test record as a batsman. his average overseas is poor and he has never made a test hundred outside the subcontinent. he is all at sea against the swinging ball. when a captain is in self-doubt as a player, it is hard for him to lead the team. he loses the respect of fans and team-mates alike. india probably needs to consider a different captain in test cricket.

  • CodandChips on July 31, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    I seriously think Broad ought to be rested. He is believed to be injured. He was steaming in during this match, but it can't be too good for him. With a world cup coming up in a country where he was our stand out player during the Ashes, we have to look after him. However with Anderson likely to get banned, resting Broad would leave our bowling scarily light.

    Plunkett should come in after his rest. Stokes was dropped unfairly imo. He is a good bowler, and shouldn't have been dropped for poor batting. We need to show morecambe faith in our youngsters. Perhaps he could bat higher? Would that help?

    I wouldn't change the batting despite the concerns. Give Robson a couple more chances. He can work on his weakness over the winter, since he won't be part of the world cup; he doesn't even play white-ball cricket for Middlesex.

    Perhaps Lyth or Patel could come in if any batsmen need a break. But of not I wouldn't change the batsmen.

  • CurrentPresident on July 31, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    The whole problem is that Dhoni thinks he is a great strategist and Fletcher just concurs. Dhoni is a good strategist - in one day matches. His thinking is tuned to that.

    But he is just not suited to test matches. His basic thinking is in terms of managing overs and targets. Rarely ever does a team attack from bowling in one dayers, they attack from batting which works for India.

    But test match philosophy is entirely different. to win, you have to attack with bowling, managing overs is not the focus - taking wickets is. Dhoni has shown that he cannot think like that (esp. overseas). Ganguly could. Kapil Dev could. We need to find a test captain who can.

  • CodandChips on July 31, 2014, 18:47 GMT

    Such euphoria over a win shows how much England have fallen in a year. This shows how important this win was. Hopefully the rot has been stopped.

    Was almost a perfect win. All the senior players delivered, and hopefully Cook and Bell are back in form. Cook's captaincy was better than at Lord's. Jos Buttler scored runs and kept excellently, despite concerns (though he was given lives when batting).

    Crucially we may be solving the spin conundrum. Ali has improved his bowling the last 2 games especially. He is not the finished article with bat or ball, but has the potential to be a fine player for England.

    The big concerns will be the backup seamers to Broad and Anderson. Neither took wickets (though I thought Woakes bowled well). With Broad carrying a suspected injury and Anderson possibly being banned, the remaining bowling doesn't look so strong. This is a concern.

    However what matters is that at long last, England has one a test match.

  • kunderanengineer on July 31, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    I see a lot of my fellow Indian posters who want to see the end of the Dhoni era. What a sudden turn from just one week ago when everyone was branding him the master tactician after the victory in the 2nd test and instead counting the days left in Cook's captaincy. I must admit that I am almost tempted to agree with these posters only because I think there are a lot of potentially good young wicket keepers waiting in the wings and itching to get an opportunity (Saha. Ohja and Samson immediately come to mind) and I would hate to see this talent wasted. However I think it 's easy to replace Dhoni the wicket keeper but a lot tougher to replace Dhoni the leader. Although Kohli has been touted as the future captain, I don't think he has the proper temperament and calmness necessary to lead, at least not yet. However, maybe he could be phased in gradually being made the test captain while Dhoni can continue with captaincy in the one day format. One day this change has to be made but when?

  • Lmaotsetung on July 31, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    Just a reminder to all the crying Indian fans. OT and Oval are both spinning pitches fwiw. OT has been that way since they rotated the pitche 90 degrees a few years back and the Oval has traditionally favor spinners on 4th 5th day.

  • thozar on July 31, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    India have been very unlucky in this test. Dropped catches, some poor umpiring, and also Ishant's injury. I am not making any excuses but everyone including England fans will agree that England were very lucky in this test. Most of their batsmen got lives and made it count, so credit to them. I still think India will win the next 2 tests or at least one of the 2 tests and win the series. The only change I will make is replace Jadeja with Ashwin. Indian fans are asking to drop Dhawan but remember he is the guy who helped us with great starts in NZL. Remember form is temporary, class is permanent. Dhawan is class. If you are patient with him, he will deliver. Let us not even talk about Pujara's (best test batsman in the world) and Kohli's (best batsman in the world) places. Just few tests back, they were whacking the best attack at their home. Give Pankaj Singh one more chance. When Ashwin returns, we can target their lefties.

  • Nampally on July 31, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Now that N.Ojha has been called to replace injured Saha, why not call Umesh Yadev to replace injured Ishant. There is no point in keeping Ishant in the squad when India has better option in Umesh. Also Ojha can open the innings with Vijay & replace consistently failing Dhawan. Ojha's form in Australia with India A was simply terrific. Yadev also showed good bowling form. Replace Failing Shami with Yadev. Ashwin should replace "Spinner" Jadeja & Aaron replaces Pankaj. These bowlers can restrict England to <350. Above all India will have 3 "fresh" arms in Yadev, Ashwin & Aaron whom England have not faced. Aaron & Yadev are much quicker than Broad & Anderson. Having fresh faces will bring more confidence to a losing XI. I am sure Dhoni won't mind losing the remaining 2 tests & come out with his new round of excuses for the loss. If Dhoni is serious about taking 20 wkts. then bring in those gus. Don't just give lame excuses when India has the right guys. Ojha is a fine aggressive opener!

  • DeepThinking on July 31, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    Here is the team for 4th and 5th Test in the order they should bat. Depending on the situation, for the 5th test we can replace Binny with Varun. Dhoni should be sitting out and Don't want to burden Kholi with captaincy now. 1. Murali Vijay 2. Gambir (Captain) 3. Rahane 4. Pujara 5. Kholi 6. Naman Ojha 7. Binny 8. Ashwin 9. Bhuvi 10. Ishwar Pandey 11. Pankaj Singh

  • ozind95 on July 31, 2014, 18:27 GMT

    So called 'Team' India is collection of overpaid superstars who rarely click as a TEAM .To me it seems that their agenda is controlled by BCCI and their sponsors . They have very rarely clicked overseas in the recent years as all seem to play as individuals rather that a team,quickly lose their momentum and mood and yet do seem to care that they are playing for a Country not for themselves .

  • on July 31, 2014, 18:25 GMT

    What India need on these pitches is an out and out fast bowler who'll rattle the tail and also the higher order English batsmen with short pitch stuff like Ishant did in Lords. If we have someone like Varun Aaron(who is way faster than Ishant) why can't we use him for at least a couple of matches .Especially since Shami is clearly out of form. And Dhawan must make way for Gambhir after all the man is already 32, these few opportunities will be the last ones for him.

  • Jackpot6 on July 31, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    England showed India; how TEST cricket is played.

  • himsez on July 31, 2014, 18:16 GMT

    Flat Pitch, Dropped Catches, Bad Umpiring Decisions, Extremely Poor Batting by Indians - I don't think England can take it easy despite this win. Yes, they won but they would know why!!

  • on July 31, 2014, 18:13 GMT

    England won the test thanks to Moin's bowling and normally the highest wicket taker is awarded the Man of Match award! So what went wrong here then? Can somebody please explain to me why Moin did not get that? Its bad enough he only gets to bowl when the others need a break! Mind boggles!

  • himsez on July 31, 2014, 18:13 GMT

    India can being any out of form batsmen, bowler and in general any cricketer not expected to perform into becoming the star performer. Also, India is great for making debuts. This has been the scenario from whenever I know. People like Aaquib, Elahi, Butler, Cook, McCullum, Ponting and 100's of other have made a killing against India when they are almost ready to be dropped.

  • on July 31, 2014, 18:13 GMT

    If India should ever aim to becoming the no.1 team then it should start thinking about winning against teams who are at their top form. This loss proves once again how India is way behind in this race. There is no shame in losing to a better team. But the manner in which it lost poses a lot of questions. Right from Dhoni's strategy to the bowlers inept performance, to the batsmen's inability to deal with the swinging ball and finally the lack of any will power to bat out a day, points towards glaring problems in the team. India must address all of these problems and not gloss over them as they have tended to do. Dhoni must realise that whenever he has tried to be aggressive the team has responded terrifically. If the team is to succeed then he has to provide the inspiration.

  • TRAM on July 31, 2014, 18:07 GMT

    People, please. Gambhir is a known failure in swinging conditions and he has not fixed his "technique" of fishing outside off. I also believe Ashwin+Jadeja gives synergetic effect. Similarly 4 pace bowlers working alternatively helps in short spells and good for performance and avoiding injuries. And of course, non-performers should pave way for others.

    Hence: OUT: Dhawan, MSD, Shami, RSharma. IN : NamanOhja, Ashwin, VAaron, IPandey

    Openers: Vijay, NamanOhja (wk) Middle: Pujara, Kholi, Rahane (one of Kholi or Rahane or Ashwin can be captain ) Alrounders:Ashwin, Jadeja, Bhuvi Bowlers: VAaron, IPandey, Pankaj

    This team has 6 official bowlers and 2 part time bowlers (Vijay & Kholi) and has 5 main batsmen and 3 allrounder batsmen.

    Just wishful thinking.

  • v4victory on July 31, 2014, 17:51 GMT

    Guys, anybody thinking on giving Gambhir a lookin - especially after seeing how ineffective Shikhar has been overseas.

  • Peachjay on July 31, 2014, 17:44 GMT

    This test panned the way it is due to 1. dropping Cook early in his innings 2. Letting Bell score 167 after he was plumb when he was 0; -both unfortunately against poor Pankaj 3. Iffy decision with the catch for Jos Buttler - again when at 0 from where he tore the Indian attack [can this be called an 'attack' really!] 4. Lack of application by the batsmen after getting good starts -after all these when a draw was a 10-15% possibility- Dhawan urge for a quick single and Vijay lack of it- opened the floodgates. 6. Moeen did what he had to do -just pitch it up in the rough and take what he gets - he was ably supported by great catching around- something India sorely missed. Will India bonce back? They can , but I doubt it due to lack of a real leader!

  • ProdigyA on July 31, 2014, 17:43 GMT

    The biggest problem with India is Dhoni. The sooner he goes and the sooner BCCI realizes this, the sooner India's problems will be solved. DHONI MUST GO. NO IF NO BUTS.

  • Samdanh on July 31, 2014, 17:39 GMT

    Sorry to see India fall in such a heap after the win at Lords. Hats off to England for such a phenomenal response and turnaround. Indian commentators, media, fans were calling Lords win as a huge victory for India/big defeat for England when Eng lost by 95 runs I do not know how they described this debacle by 266 runs. Missed todays session on TV

  • on July 31, 2014, 17:32 GMT

    India must use simple tactics KICK Nohit sharma PICK Ashwin. change batting order Vijay, Rahane, pujara, Dhawan, Kohli, Dhoni, Ashwin, Jadeja, Buvi, Shami, Pankaj. Pankaj must need one more chance to prove himself. he bowled really well but lack of luck. instead of giving hefty bunches of chances to rohit give two to three more chances to Pankaj, Binny etc

  • DCricket on July 31, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    India has one big problem (Dhoni in Test team) and there is no way out of it unless he retires and gets injured somehow. This would immediately happen if he is not in team. Shikhar Dhawan and Jadeja won't get selected and would be replaced by more useful player. Will get better wicket keeper who could help getting more wickets. will get bit more aggressive captain who will make things happen rather then wait to happen. Shikar Dhavan, Dhoni and Jadeja are not at all good outside subcontinent. Until he is in team Gambhir surely won't get into team. I would even suggest to drop dhoni and dhavan, pickup Gambhir as captain and ashwin as specialist spinner.

  • NCP1 on July 31, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    India will have to play really well to avoid 3-1 defeat. May be weather can come to their rescue in one of the test. Kohli and Pujara have something to prove and they should because they are very good players. If you look at the past all Indian players who did well in England they had to adopt. Bowlers like Anderson have always been in English team. The Moeen factor is hard to take for the Indian team.

  • I_amMirza on July 31, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    I think India needs to recalculate the things. Rahane Should Open with Vijay as Dhawan is facing technical problems. Naman Ojha is good call his presence will strengthen Top/ Middle order. In such kind of pitches how can you miss Ashwin, he would had more handy than Jadu as he can Bat as well. India did work on broad but miscalculated Moeen. Shami, Bhuvi and Pankaj were experimenting different things rather than bowling at good lengths. They need concentration.

  • Speng on July 31, 2014, 17:24 GMT

    England won this game for the opposite reason that they lost the previous... they took their good first day start (a bit slow batting) and converted it into a good total on Day 2. Then they got a good start bowling and didn't ease up the pressure. Either Ali or Jimmy could have been MOM but I suppose they figured 5 1st innings wickets trumps 6 in the 2nd. England could have scarificed more wickets or rejigged the batting lineup in the 2nd innings to score faster but it turns out they didn't need to. they bowled with better discipline, had more aggressive field placements and gave the ball to Moeen more.

    India should have occupied the crease longer in their first innings as you felt that a lot of the batsmen lost wickets trying to push on from decent starts. I think they've done the same thig with Jadeja that Aus did last year with Agar - picked the 2nd best spinner and retained him for his batting. Even if they pick Ashwin now it'll take him a match to get up to speed I think.

  • Surajrises on July 31, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    May how much ever Cricket fans and experts break their heads regarding Dhoni's defensive Captaincy and tactics, he is going to continue to what he wants to do. With Ishant Sharma, we have lost Bhuvi as well due to side strain. Shammi looked jaded so now no one has idea what Dhoni is actually end up doing at Manchester. Now that Naman Ojha has been drafted from the India A team, even Umesh Yadav should be called back immediately. So for the next match I am hoping this would be the team: Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, Dhoni, Ashwin, Umesh Yadav, Ishwar Pandey & Pankaj Singh. In this particular situation, this is the best possible side that could at least put up some kind of fight but I still feel India are losing this series from hereon.

  • albyarackal on July 31, 2014, 17:04 GMT

    cant understand somebody like pankaj singh playing and umesh yadav not getting selected, dhoni surely needs to retire from test cricket, when is the last time he played a really good test innings, time for kohli to take the reins

  • on July 31, 2014, 17:02 GMT

    Akash chopra says the the current Indian batsmen are not good players of spin because of level of first class spin in the country. After seeing the performance of overseas spinner like Panesar and Shane shillingford in India, it is something that has to rectified. It is ok now as not many teams have really good spinners anyway today but considering the type of pitches we make back home, we might be in trouble someday

  • franciscan_educated on July 31, 2014, 17:01 GMT

    For all those who think Ashwin would have made a difference, I'm sorry to spoil your party.In the real world, Ashwin is just one guy. When the whole team barring Vijay and Rahane and the tailenders cant make a single substantial score, you cant expect to draw, let alone win. Also, the slip catching is shoddy. But thanks for bringing Cook back to form. He will surely send a Christmas card to Dhawan.

  • Madpashcrickers on July 31, 2014, 17:01 GMT

    Did India party a bit too hard after Lord's or something? - they seemed to be playing the whole test through the fog of a monumental collective hangover, they were so good at Lord's but really just let it all slide here.

    Obviously Rahane had stuck to the mineral water though and he still looked in great touch - I think he needs to be made the 'leaving the ball' coach for the rest of the team - why so many wafts outside the off?

  • on July 31, 2014, 16:53 GMT

    England team reborn in summer at Southampton. With a new spinner and a win in the bag long way to go and end the English summer on high. Come one guys Come one MMA.

  • on July 31, 2014, 16:50 GMT

    Utterly poor show by a team that has been playing international cricket for nearly a century and constantly producing best players.

    They too have ball and bat in their hands like their rival teams. They too have wisdom at their disposal.

    But they have no belief to win the matches.

  • Satish_Sharma001 on July 31, 2014, 16:42 GMT

    Actually India played with only 3.5 bowlers and 8 batsmen. You cannot call Jadeja a specialist bowler. At best he is a batting all rounder. If India wants to win more test matches they need to change their approach of packing the side with 8 batsmen. They need to play more bowlers. If they want to play with only 4 bolwers then they should be specialist bowlers not batsmen who can bowl. Instead of Jadeja I think Ashwin would be a far better choice. Ashin is a genuine wicket taking bowler who can also bat. Unlike Jadeja who is a batsman who can bowl. Jadeja's bowling is good for one days but not for test matches. India should stop being so defensive and afraid to loose. Any team who plays with 8 batsmen and still looses the game should go back on the drawing board and reevaluate their strategy.

  • Nutcutlet on July 31, 2014, 16:42 GMT

    I think that the selectors have seen enough of Moeen Ali to call off the search for a specialist spinner. He has the job and, wonder of wonders, in consequence of Ali's new-found skills, the batting is longer than ever (at least on paper). Jos Buttler looks just fine either side of the stumps: keeper sorted for the next many years. Cook has made runs and captained with some verve. That cloud has moved on. Ballance & Root look settled and effective in the middle order. Bell's back too. Only Jimmy's talent for verbal banter needs to be got under control and England can move forward, sweeping all before them... Until England meets a side with more guns and a greater desire than India showed at the Ageas Bowl. Or India decides that DRS is quite a good idea. (It could have been so very different if they had!)

  • on July 31, 2014, 16:41 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni and his team are completely content with the Lords win and wants to sit on their laurels. I cant understand however minefield the pitch is turning out on the last 2 days, Indians are most used to turing pitches at home. Absolutely mindless batting. Indians don't need coaches they need psychologists to help them in their batting, fielding and bowling mindset.

  • Nampally on July 31, 2014, 16:37 GMT

    Unimaginative & unbalanced XI selection by Dhoni has cost India another Test. To win a Test match you need bowlers to take 20 wkts. With Kumar Shami tiring, India needed 2 Fresh arm like Aaron & Pandey. In addition India must have 4 specialist bowlers like England did. Furthermore India cannot go into a test match without Ashwin when England has 5 or 6 LH bats. Moen showed that he can even get RH bats out.So I ask once again "Why was Ashwin dropped for 3 test matches"? Who will take wkts when you have 2 tiring pace bowlers + NO wkt. taking spinner + one debutant seamer? Dhoni's standard excuse won't carry weight when he expects these guys to take wkts. with fielders dropping catches in slips? India had Ashwin, Aaron & Pandey each a good wkt. taker on the Bench. Rohit Sharma was brought to replace a seamer instead of Ashwin or Aaron. MSD, How do you expect these guys to take wkts. 774 uns for 11 wkts taken proves it! Dhoni has squandered all the Momentum too after the Lords Win!

  • on July 31, 2014, 16:32 GMT

    As much as it is hard to accept but the problem with India with has been both in batting as well as bowling. It is well known fact that India's pace attack have always bee inconsistent overseas. You may see once in a while brilliance of an Ishant, or Shreesant or Pathan, but there was always a lack of consistency. We had only one Kapil or Zaheer in attack but then they were also not menacing. Similarly in batting we only had Sachin, Dravid and Gavasker who were consistently good in away conditions. Others played in patches. You can't expect a team to win just by having a couple players in line up who are really upto task. We glorify players on basis of home performance and that hurt team in away matches.

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 16:30 GMT

    How I wish this to be my eleven with no MS Dhoni in squad. Vijay, Saha (opener), Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Naman Ojha( wk ), Akshar patel, Ashwin, Umesh Yadav, V Aron, I sharma/ Pankaj (if Ishant unfit) for next game.

  • on July 31, 2014, 16:29 GMT

    @electric_loco- Ashwin outbowled Lyon and got more wkts than him, having played one match less, in India's tour of Australia 2011. You can say Lyon has improved since then. Anyone who gets enough chances will become good. Australia have persisted with Lyon for over 4 yrs now and he has come good. Ashwin was replaced after one poor match in SA. He is the fastest to 100 wkts in over 80 yrs. Tho most of those wkts came in India, the same feat hadn't been achieved by anyone including Kumble, Harbhajan. Ashwin needs time and chances to get used to the Dukes and the Kookubura balls and in non-turning pitches. As of now, Ashwin is only slightly ahead of Lyon. Given enough chances, Ashwin will go miles ahead of Lyon.

  • arup_g on July 31, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    What hurts the most is that India were outdone at their own game - SPIN! Moeen Ali, with all respect to him, is a part time spinner. He is not in the same class as Swan, so for him to bowl out Indian batsmen who are born on turning pitches is ridiculous.

    India need to have a hard look at their batting. On a 'flat' pitch, I have no problem with England scoring 500+, which simply means India need to do the same to draw the game, and retain their lead with 2 games to go. But they played awful cricket shots with no care for the situation or the wicket whatsoever.

    Rohit Sharma was a major disappointment. While he clearly has tons of talent, he lacks cricketing brains at times. If India are going to bowl that badly, then play 5 bowlers so you don't have to rely on Bhuvi or Ishant to take all the wickets. Play Ashwin, and let him bat at 7 as he is capable enough to do that! Very clearly Dhawan must be dropped, and bring in Gambhir who is much more reliable.

  • RahulGandhi on July 31, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    More than India lost the game. I believe its the fact that every thing that could have went against England, did. His team has always batted so far in this series in perfectly blue skies on the pitches that do not aid swing bowling that much. Many umpiring decisions have gone against England; the ones that went against India didn't cost as much as their absymal slip cordon did. Dhoni's tailenders have scored so many runs in this series that I fail to remind myself when did Indian tailenders scored so many runs in England.

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 16:17 GMT

    @ArunBose Why challenge mate? Indian is surely going to win. Somehow Naman Ojha needs to be in squad. He has been in form of his life. Can play as pure batsmen. And Akshar patel as well.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 31, 2014, 16:12 GMT

    @Santosh Kumar-Lyon lesser spinner to Ashwin?Well,Lyon's miles better than Ashwin will ever be.Fact he's easily 2nd best in world after Ajmal.Only get better with doosra in armour which Murli's training him.Check Lyon v Ash recd in Aus,spinners grave.

  • VinodGupte on July 31, 2014, 16:10 GMT

    We are all waiting with baited breath for someone like Sambit Bal or Sid to write a tome on how that one boundary hit by Jadeja threatened to turn the game on its head. Oh yeah. Keep those articles on a 2-bit player like Jadeja coming.

  • HDG1978 on July 31, 2014, 16:10 GMT

    Hope this thrashing will mark the beginning of the end of M S Dhoni in Team India

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 16:08 GMT

    I desperately want to see akshar patel and naman ojha in the Indian test team. Let's not waste talents like that. Ojha is a better bat cum keeper than dhoni and akshar is equal to jaddu in field but better left arm bowler and batsmen.

  • Yog on July 31, 2014, 16:07 GMT

    Time to blood in Ashwin... He is a much better bat(On current form than ROHIT) Dhoni is reluctant to bat at NO:6 then send Ashwin at 6...

    Re Jig the order as 1.)Vijay 2.) Gambhir 3.) Rahane 4.) Pujara 5.) Kohli 6.) Ashwin 7.) Dhoni 8.) Jadeja 9.) Bhuvi 10.) Aaron 11.) Ishwar Pandey

  • RahulGandhi on July 31, 2014, 16:05 GMT

    Dhoni's captaincy is too defensive for a test captain. You can win one-days or Twenty 20 by stopping runs but for test matches you gotta take wickets. You require to put an extra catcher instead of a sweeper cover. You can't let the hard worked edges go through the slip cordon because you fielders are gaurding boundaries for one bad ball. It is high time for India to look for some fresh face with fresh ideas.

  • zarasochozarasamjho on July 31, 2014, 16:03 GMT

    India back to norm; cann not play cricket outside India! Summer 2011 seems to be looming again when the "great" bats like Tendulkar and the rest (Rahul being the big exception. truly great that he is) failed miserably and continously and India surrendered each of the 4 tests most abjectly. Shame on Indai!

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 16:01 GMT

    Real test for moeen would start now. Now he is expected to perform with ball in every match and India would play him with more respect and concentration. They won't give their wickets easy from now on to him. His batting is pretty ordinary. Very poor against short ball. If he can't pick wickets and can't bat he will surely be under pressure.

  • crazyisland on July 31, 2014, 16:00 GMT

    Moeen Ali should have been the Man of the Match.

  • cric1965 on July 31, 2014, 15:59 GMT

    India batted 22.4 overs scored 66 runs gave 6 wickets within one session. Very poor performance by donating wickets to part time spinners. Indian batsman suppose to bat better against spinners. Now they should learn to bat against spinners not fast bowlers. India need to prepare variety of pitches in domestic tournaments. Their is no excuse for giving away 6 wickets to Ali. India batters should be able to bat turning tracks. India allow out of form English players come to form. Ishant Sharma is injured. Indian team confidence has gone down. Now it will be difficult for them to come back and defeat England.

  • rajkirp on July 31, 2014, 15:58 GMT

    It is quite clear that if Dhoni does not have faith in a player he will under utilise him as was done with Binny. Binny bowling just 20 overs in two matches is a gross under utilisation of a player. There is no doubt that Binny did help Dhoni in this regard by not bowling as was to be expected. But was his bowling any inferior to that of Ishant Sharma's pre his 7 wicket haul. And post 7 wicket haul, does it mean we have found a true pacer in Ishant Sharma? Only time will tell. Till then Dhoni will show full faith in him. Dhoni's post match interview clearly indicated his view that the 5th bowler was not used much in the first two matches. So, Binny had to be replaced. But replacing Binny for Rohit Sharma was a gross selectorial mistake. It should have been Binny for Ashwin. Or maybe Dhoni has lost faith in Ashwin's bowling outside of India.

  • RahulGandhi on July 31, 2014, 15:56 GMT

    This is a perfect example of what a defensive captain can do to the team. After winning merely second test match of the 5 match series captain chooses a team with 8 pure batsmen + 1 proper all rounder + a bowler who can bat a bit. So, he believes that an army of 9.5 batsmen would be very difficult for English bowlers to clear twice and he will be able to draw 3 matches to take the cake with 1-0. Reminds me Australian tour of India in 2008-09 when they played Craig White as their spinner and to bat to draw matches at number 8. I see no reason why you would play a game with only 3 decent bowlers, out of which one is a debudant. More than any player, I believe team requires to replace one of the most defensive captains of all time, i.e. MSDhoni. Every decision of him is painful to see for the ones who want to see Indian team winning.

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:54 GMT

    Expected Singh to bowl consistently at 140+. Must say, I was a bit disappointed. Hope Kohli overcomes his bad run soon. He is too good a batsman to be subdued for long. By the way, what exactly is Dhoni doing there?

  • Yog on July 31, 2014, 15:49 GMT

    Turning Points of the game...

    1.) Cooks catch put down by jadeja in 1st Innings. 2.) Poor Umpiring - Ian Bells LBW not given... 3.)Butler's was out when on 0 but catch termed doubtful and benefit of doubt for Butler..

    England would have made a huge roar if these were against them... Ofcourse indian batting also let to downfall...

    Come on Dhoni plz bring in DRS and get rid of sub standard umpiring...

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:44 GMT

    Moeen has silenced everyone with his surprisingly precise and threatening off spin. He must remember however that he was selected for his batting. He must work on facing the short ball and scoring some runs. On the other hand maybe he could make bowling his no.1 skill; in that case we would like to see the doosra soon please!

  • souwesterly on July 31, 2014, 15:43 GMT

    Well done England - about time too! So Cook, Ballance, Bell, Ali and Anderson have saved their places and Buttler and possibly Root have secured theirs - but there are still places that need filling by proper performers. I do so hope that the selectors are still willing to try some new faces - there must be better players of Indian bowlers, and some better bowlers around. Sincerely hope so - neither Cook nor Bell are back in the groove yet and apart from Ali, Anderson has had little real support. If those few fail, it'll easily become 3-1 against England.

  • Venkat_Gowrishankar on July 31, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    This test exposed a few gaping holes in the team : 1. The experience of the Seam Attack - Shami looks like a long way from being a finished product. I expected him to learn quicker and be a smart bowler picking wickets . Instead, he has thoroughly dissappointed .Pankaj - Even though we can say he was unfortunate , he could have still tried harder . There are so many bowlers who have catches dropped of their bowling, they come back even stronger. Showing off a sorry pitiful look wont help. 2. Dhoni and Rohit Sharma - These two are disrupting the balance of the team. Rohit has been given enough chances. This is his 3rd away tour and what a golden opportunity wasted. Dhoni, he cannot hide his inadequacies with the bat by picking a specialist batsmen.If he cannot bat, he should make way. There are so many middle order batsmen in India to replace Rohit at the domestic level. Changes for the third test - Rohit,Shami out,Ashwin,Varun In.

  • whirlaway on July 31, 2014, 15:25 GMT

    India has to make multiple changes in the team. At the very least, Gambhir for Dhawan, Ashwin for Jadeja and Aaron for Shami. Pujara, Kohli and R. Sharma need to be dropped too but it is not clear who will replace them (except in case of R. Sharma, it could be Binny).

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:25 GMT

    if india wish to win last 2 tests, they should play this combination; gambir,vijay,pujara,rahane,kohli,dhone/saha,binny,ashwin,bhuvanesh,pankaj & ishwarpandey if saha plays, kohli should handle captaincy

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:12 GMT

    I expected England to win, but the size and speed of the victory surprised me. With hindsight, the writing was on the wall midway through England's second innings when India more or less gave up.

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:09 GMT

    Dhoni paid the price by including rohith ,dhawan and persisting with ineffective Jadeja. binny,ashwin,gambir and Ishwar pandey, should included in the playing elven in place of Jadeja,rohith, dhavan and shami. if possible play wridhiman sha in place of dhone and give captaincy to Kohli if you want india to win the series... otherwise india will lose the series 3-1 for sure

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:09 GMT

    MSD should start using his spinners in an aggressive mode and not for restricting the opposition. Ashwin was ysed defensively in Aus and SA and Jadeja after that. Lesser spinners like duminy, Lyon and Ali came out better on all these matches as they bowled offstump line and got wickets as well as successful in restricting the runs.

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:05 GMT

    changes is essential for India. possibly, Jadeja must replaced with R ashwin, Shikar dhavan must replaced with g Gambir and p sigh replaced with varun aaron or i sharma. well, I believe their is small shuffle in batting order is need. probably the squad for next test ( I guess).let me pick my team for next test and line up should be.

    M vijay, G Gambir, V Kohili, C pujara, A rahane, Rohit Sharma, MS Dhoni, R ashvin, B kumar, M Shami, varun aaron.

    i wish, V kohili should ahead of C pujara. Because, i believe, he is good No.3 at the place of dravid and pujara is more or less fits at No'4 instead of laxman. then another good classy players an conquer that is rahane and rohit. the dhoni has the support of ashvin, kumar and rest of the tail enders. well, the definite change that is G Gambir need to come in as a top order. I believe, V aaron's pace and kumar swing possibly helps on next game. am not confident about shami, if I sharma comes in. If Sharma is not fit then shami

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:04 GMT

    Why Captain cool is selecting Mr. Rohit. He is not capable of playing outside sub continent. He is capable of dead indian pitch. Binny bowled well in 1st test and played well in second innings. He is not bowled and bat well. He is played just two test. Dhoni always backing jadeja, rohit and raina. This is not good for indian cricket

  • yogicoolboy on July 31, 2014, 15:03 GMT

    Want to see India more attacking against the spinners in next 2 matches. Playing binny wont be a bad option. My team for the next test. Gautam, vijay, pujara, Kohli, Rahane,Dhoni, Binny/ Saha, Jadeja, Ashwin,pankaj and aron/ Ishwar pandey.

  • Oracle_Magus on July 31, 2014, 15:02 GMT

    Hats of to the English players for their excellent performance on the field. They outplayed India in every department. With the series at 1-1, it will get more exciting. This win will surely do a world of good to Cook's confidence and we can only expect better performance from him as a Batsman and Captain here on. A lot of Indian fans are disappointed with this defeat, but one cannot win all as many expect. Some rate Clarke as the best Captain, but he had suffered an Ashes defeat in England and a test series defeat at the hands of the Indian team. Today their team is high on confidence and the Captain gets the credit. But we have to keep in mind that it was Johnson and Haddin who inspired them and got them into the habit of winning and later on others started chipping in. Indian team did not do as bad as it's portrayed, and they will bounce back. Let's wish both teams the best for the remaining matches. Cheers!!!

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:02 GMT

    Indian team is actually chain breakers.. If a team win consecutively in chain(nearing unbeatables) the only team who can beat them will be Indian Team. Our Team has proved this many times. But the worst part is they do support the other part also. When there is a team which is completely out of form, suffering from continuous losses, indian team will be the only team which can be easily won and gain confidence / form. Not sure if it is the problem of players or the fans. I personally fell there is no mistake from the team but they are overrated and over expected by the fans. I request you all fans of cricket(not indian cricket i am talking in general) to stop watching matches if any team performs so bad(win or loss doesn't matter). That would ensure team to do good. Being very die hard fan of cricket(96 - 2005) i really stopped watching matches when i started to feel the lack of fight back and quality cricket.

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    #Arun Bose I totally agree with you, India will definetly make a comeback, I support your claim..Most of the cricket fans change with roll of a dice..When India won at lords England fans were rioting against Cook and England with their comments, and Indian fans were singing the glory of their's. As soon as England made a comeback, ECB fans again rejoiced with England's success, and Indians have almost provided tips, that can compile a book in length, getting over the fact those are English conditions they forgot India is still a very young team in the making, which have just won a test In those conditions, 3 test's cant decide Kohli's skills, 3 test's cant raise a single shingle on Pujara's technique, I dont know what do people want from Dhoni the batsman he has scored two fifties being a wicketkeeper batsman more than Pujara Kohli, is averaging good whatever may be the issues with his captaincy, all I know is he is yet the best to captain India as per the available resources..

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 31, 2014, 14:59 GMT

    Every team is a lion at home. The exception is maybe South Africa who have a pretty decent record in the sub continent, as well as being strong at home. The difference in the Ashes was Mitch. It was virtually the same team, but Mitch blew the opposition. This shows that bowlers win matches, whilst batsman only set up/save matches.

    It's high time India adopted a harsh policy and brought through any promising fast bowler (90mph, not that medium pace rubbish) straight into the Test team.

    Ishant won't be fit, so keep Pankaj Singh who is tall and had a decent but fruitless debut. Bring in Aaron for Bhuvi, so that's the raw paceman in the team. Replace Jadeja with Ashwin who despite having a rubbish record overseas, will still be more useful. I'd be bold and replace Rohit with Pandey as he'd probably be more potent with extra pace.

    So 4 pace bowlers bowlers in Pankaj, Aaron and Shami Pandey as well as a spinner in Ashwin.

    This sends out intent.

  • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on July 31, 2014, 14:58 GMT

    It's a rare thing in sport to have a result that pleases just about everyone. India will regret a sub-par performance but Cook fans will be pleased as will other opposition teams since it means Cook will remain as captain. At least for a little while longer.

  • yogicoolboy on July 31, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    Sad to see india lose after a record win in Lords. .we don't mind losing since its a game and winning and losing is a part of it..but the way you lose is also important . Full credit to England as they dominated the entire five days. Would have expected India to put some fight till the end. All the best to both the teams for the next 2 matches. They should give gautam and ashwin a go in next 2 matches and Msd has to be more proactive in the next 2 matches. All the best to both teams

  • whirlaway on July 31, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    It is largely a myth these days that Indian batsmen can play spin very well. Dravid touched upon this briefly during the TV commentary today. He said that Karnataka (home of great spin bowlers like Pras, Chandra, Bhat, Kumble, Joshi and others) now has a bowling attack of 3 seamers, a medium pace all-rounder in Stuart Binny, and the fifth bowler is a spinner.

    On top of that, most of the national level players hardly play any of the Ranji Trophy or Duleep Trophy matches. Their domestic cricket exposure is largely via IPL. And in IPL, the spinners who do bowl are not trying to take wickets; they are trying to contain the batsmen. So the batsmen are not dealing with any ball or field-setting that can get them out; they only deal with balls and fields that are designed to save runs. As a result, over a period of time, their ability to play spin bowling has been eroded considerably.

  • Kays789 on July 31, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    Wow, to go 5 days of a test without winning a single session. That takes a whole new level of ineptitude!

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:50 GMT

    Moeen looks better since the first test against Sri Lanka. Ultimately there is no one else banging at the spinning door so Moeen can feel safe.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:47 GMT

    God save us someone needs to tell our selectors that we need an aggressive caption not a defensive dhoni still using 6 batsmen wont help him in this lifetime and we must have gambhir as test captain and some basic test players rather than multitalented rohits and virats and keeping umesh yadav out and varun aaron in was a big blunder do we really want to win?

  • uncanny on July 31, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    India should drop dhawan, rohit and jadeja and bring gambhir, binny and ashwin. I wish ishant was fit and could replace pankaj but alas he is still injured. Lets hope kohli and pujara regain form.

  • Seamer_Singh on July 31, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    It's funny how this forum has changed since the result of the 2nd test match... English supporters/press were gunning for Cook to be sacked, now Dhoni and co are being gunned and Cook and co are the best thing since sliced bread. 'All of us are experts at practicing virtue at a distance' as the old saying goes.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:39 GMT

    how ironical, first india defeated england using short balls then eng defeated ind using spin

  • wpbus13 on July 31, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    Congrats to England!! Outplayed India in every department...the seniors finally came to the party!

  • cricket_lover1 on July 31, 2014, 14:32 GMT

    This is Pathetic display of cricket from Indian team. India lost by playing badly. Don't want to take it away from England..they played superbly with bat and also with ball an deserved to win this test match. but the sad part is India lost by playing very badly (sorry to say this again)..we don't mind losing since its a game and winning and losing is a part of it..but the way you lose is also important. Indian fans were expecting a good fight from this team..but we saw that the effort to save his match was missing...as if they made up their mind that they are going to lose..sad for cricket fans!! Well played England!! hope to see nice contest in the remaining two test matches!

  • gudolerhum on July 31, 2014, 14:29 GMT

    Well done to the team. Played really well throughout and it is good that Alastair is back in the runs and Bell. Alastair could be a bit more aggressive in his field placing and bowling decisions but the result is what matters and he got it. I suggest it is a bit early to start identifying Moeen Ali as front line spinner. He has potential but this result may be a bit of a one off. Prior to this he has not achieved any significant results. Every day is not going to be like today and he has to show he can do this over and over (sorry for the pun) before he earns his laurels. Much good to be taken forward from this match for the next two. India are a young side and their experienced players are not giving them the support they need. At Lords they got lucky when England failed to capitalise on the conditions.

  • Cric__Dude on July 31, 2014, 14:27 GMT

    It is high time Indian selectors think like Australian selectors. They should be ready for aggressive decisions. No point same players playing all 3 formats. Only Rahane can play all 3 formats (open in limited overs and come in middle just like Gilly). All others should be grouped. Dhoni please quit tests (there is no question about ODI or T20, he can continue as long as he wishes). Even if he scores a 100 next match, I will stick to this. It is better to gamble by making Vinay Kumar/Ashwin/Binny/Gautam as next test captain. Vinay & Binny have handled Karnataka teams superbly in Ranji and other domestic matches. Ashwin & Gauti are aggressive and try to respond to every situation. I know all these 4 are still fighting for a spot. Samson should be tried in tests. There is no need for him to take t20, odi and then test route. he should be tried in tests directly. The gamble is worth it. Squeeze Sehwag as much as possible before he dries up. He as 2-4 years life still.

  • Doctorlogic on July 31, 2014, 14:21 GMT

    Well played England. Better luck next time India. I wonder how Jimmi was announced as man of the match?? Though he is a great player. I believe Moeen Ali would have been player of match due to his stunning performance in next innings. Good to see Cook in form.

  • whirlaway on July 31, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    In the interest of the game, here is the list of players to be dropped for the next Test:

    India: Dhawan, Pujara/Kohli, R. Sharma, Jadeja, Shami

    England: Robson, Jordan

  • PrinceTN on July 31, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    This defeat bring major changes for next test lineup...Seriously, Dhoni blender big mistake going with 6 batsman n 4 bolwer...You cannot win with these attack... Should have 5 bowler to take 20 wickets..and part-time bowlers.. Dhoni showed poor captaincy...he should be removed from the test captain and test squad and he should continue only in ODI AND T20. Give chance to other wicketkeepers and FRESHER Captain and groomed it. Another defeat gonna be worst...SELECTORS I REQUEST YOU TO DROP DHONI and non-performing players. SELECT THE BEST TEAM. PLEASE FOLLOW HOW AUSSIES DOES IT...Dhoni Learn from CLARKE!

  • vinay.perth on July 31, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    Seems like Indian team was never prepared for this test match, they looked down and out in every department. All the batsmen got start in the first inning but didn't carry on. Rohit Sharma is great player but against rubbish bowling or if he is playing in India. Dhoni will need to make a big call and pick Ashwin instead of Jadeja in the next test. He has been counting on Jadeja to score big runs but he hasn't delivered.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    @sundersingh- Thanks, Atleast there's one gutsy poster here..

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:17 GMT

    A record win at Lords followed by a disappointing loss.... No Words... Just a little suggestion to bring in Gautam Gambhir back in the side in place of Sikhar Dhawan along with R Ashwin in place of Sir Jadeja. Slight shuffle in the batting order should serve the purpose... I would like to see Virat batting at No.5 or 6 once again and Ajinkya replacing him at No.4. In case of Bowling I feel Pankaj Singh deserves another chance while Shami should be replaced with Ishwar Pandey/Varun Aaron.

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 14:16 GMT

    @ Jamie Moneghan, That's nothing special. Special would be If aussies can do that in India. Everyone is lion in their own den. I personally don't rate Ashes victory of aussies in their own home. That is nothing special. Every team wins at home.

  • PPL11 on July 31, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan - Sure mate try and bounce us out !! if you can batter for you if you cant then god help you :)

  • prakash_mishra on July 31, 2014, 14:13 GMT

    A much needed win for England with Cook and Bell coming back in form. Some real concerns for India. Dhawan , Kohli, Sharma, Jadeja, Shami, Pankaj and even Vijay and Pujara could not show any fight at all. The pitch looked like a batsman paradise on day 1 and 2, but when India batted they could not negate the swing offered by Anderson and Broad. They let England score at a brisk rate in the second innings. Then all of them except for Rahane fell against not so intimidating spin bowling offered by Moeen. I agree Moeen bowled well. It seems India got bit complacent after Lord's win, though Ishant's injury might have hampered their confidence. Few player need to go. Shami is not effective at all. Dhawan is not contributiong and Rohit is not test material it seems. May be Gambhir, W.Saha and Aaron can make way. Jadeja has to be replaced by Ashwin. Look at England. They made few changes and the whole team played different. Dhoni has to avoid being traditional and approach more radical ways.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:13 GMT

    well done by M Ali. The great man in cricket world we love him we support him and we respect him.

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 14:12 GMT

    Why are we so shy of using our own pace bowlers. Give Varun Aaron and Umesh Yadav a go and don't worry abt economy. MS Dhoni still thinks its an ODI game where he worries to much about economy rate. 10 overs for 80 runs is acceptable provided you take 4 wickets.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:12 GMT

    even if india lose next matches he will not give chance to gautam gambhir

  • Cric__Dude on July 31, 2014, 14:12 GMT

    It is clear that India can never form a 3/4 pace attack either at home or away. So go with 2 pacers and 2 spinners as in home tests (go with your strength, play both Jadeja and Ashwin). Binny should be used as 3rd seamer. Atleast he will get to bowl then and any wicket from him is bonus. Otherwise he wont be used. Binny, Jadeja, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Pankaj/Ishwar should be the bowling combination. Gauti, Vijay, Pujara, Rahane, Kohli/Rohit/Saha, Dhoni - 6 batters should be enough, tail can bat a bit. Rahane is running out of partners most times, so he should come at 4 (also, Kohli/Rohit can do no justice to 4). This is possibly the best available combination for remaining tests.

  • Retour on July 31, 2014, 14:12 GMT

    Congrats Eng! Great comeback to keep the series alive! What to say except everything seem to fall in to its place.

    For Ind, there is one word to describe - Pathetic. To draw or win a game, most of the times a team need to score in the region 700 runs or more in a test (both innings combined). The bowling appeared to be toothless. Ind can only go up from here.

    One also has to question both the team and squad selection. Why not bring in a leg-spinner for the tests? Or is Ind focused on keeping the runs down even in tests.

    For the next two tests, changes would have to be made to the playing 11. Depending on conditions, I would recommend: GG, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni (would prefer Saha as I think he may add more value in tests), Bhuvi, Ishant, Varun, and 2 from Ashwin/Ishwar/Jadeja

  • tests_the_best on July 31, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    Good comeback by England but India should be capable of performing much better than this shoddy display. India were never in the match right from the start.

    Changes needed - Gambhir for Dhawan (although Dhawan has not been a complete failure, he has no 50s in 6 innings neither does he spend a lot of time at the crease like Pujara). With Ishant still injured, Aaron should come in for Shami or Pankaj, preferably for Shami. Ashwin can come in for Rohit or Jadeja - althouth Jadeja has not performed badly, he's not that been successful either, the odd slog innings is not going to work at the test level whereas Ashwin's batting is much better & might bowl better than Jadeja.

    Although 266 runs is a huge margin to lose by, what makes this different from similar middle of series results in previous whitewashes is the fact that they won the previous test, so they are no strangers to tasting victory. With a little bit more application/luck, India should be able to win one of the remaining ones.

  • jrben787 on July 31, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    Well it didn't take long for India to revert to type, did it? Wrong selection, gutless batting, toothless bowling, comical fielding... 2011 tour is being replayed again.England has the momentum now and I can see Eng winning 3-1. To lose a game of cricket is one thing but to lose 8 wickets to a part time spinner is utter humiliation. Ghambir must surely come in for Dhawan. He been found wanting against Anderson and, to make matters worse, he dropped a sitter at slip from Buttler. That drop and Jadeja spilling Cook's catch cost IND about 150 runs. For all his herorics with the bat Jadeja has been comfortably outbowled by Moeen so far in this series. Dhoni's mind has been preoccupied with thoughts on how to get Anderson banned for two games rather than team selection and game strategy and the result is that IND has been thrashed by a bucketload of runs on a flat wicket. My team for Old Trafford - Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahanne, Sharma, Dhoni, Ashwin, Jadeja, Kumar, Pankaj & Aaron.

  • brusselslion on July 31, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    @Arun Bose: I'm afraid that closing your eyes and wishing really, really hard for something doesn't work very often. I agree with the posters - from both sides - who recognize that both teams are inconsistent. Being generous, you would say that they are a 'work in progress'; being negative you could say that neither team is very good.

    England have the momentum with them, and they should kick on for here, and win the series. However, I say that more with hope than expectation. Therefore as a gambling man, tempting as your offer is - and believe me, it's very tempting - I can't bring myself to accept your bet!

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:10 GMT

    The Great indian batsmen for whom spin is bread and butter get out to Moen who is still called the part time off spinner by England.Had India told Cookie we have no intention of lasting long in the field he could have atleast got his 26th century.Wonder when will Indian selectors get the clue that Dhawan is pretty useless outside subcontinent better off playing gauti.Whether or not Dhoni is comfortable with 6 batsmen 5 bowlers he has to implement it for next two tests at all costs.No Ishant a tired Bhuvi bowling is almost zero.This test India could not even score England's first innings score inboth innings put together so extra batsmen is a sheer waste play 5 bowlers

  • alipk52 on July 31, 2014, 14:10 GMT

    Okay sir, now time to enjoy reading Indian fans comments like "take out this player, bring back that player - bring Ashwin in place of jadeja bring Gambhir for Dhawan" and so on..apart from that, it's always a great sight when one of the greatest swing bowler shows his class..I.e Anderson..zipping the ball through to batsman, swing either way, ohhhs and aahhhs..reminds me of greatest ever Wasim and Waqar...this swing bowling is fun to watch, especially when Indian batsman gets into trouble against them..because Indian fans claims they have the world's best batting line up...Pujara the Wall? hello wake me up please..Kohli the Don bradman? really? his average is way less than half comparing Don Bradman :)

  • phaktaa_tikit on July 31, 2014, 14:10 GMT

    The theory that "india needs 5 specialist bowlers to take 20 wickets" fals flat again. By and large, its India's batting that lets them down overseas & not bowling. Same was the case last time in Eng & Aus - all were very close to inning defeats. Today its proved again

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    congratulation moeen ali......

  • jjradha on July 31, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    Vijay played very badly, so drop him and let Rohit open the innings with Dhawan

  • phaktaa_tikit on July 31, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    India needs to bring in Ashwin & ishwar Pandey in place of Rohit & Pankaj. Ishwar Pandey has the right line & length suited for English pitches. Again, for God's sake dont bring up the '5 bowler'discussion because its not just 5 bowler team but also 7 batsman team. Ashwin & Jadeja together make up for more than 1 batsman

  • phaktaa_tikit on July 31, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    India needs to bring in Ashwin & ishwar Pandey in place of Rohit & Pankaj. Ishwar Pandey has the right line & length suited for English pitches. Again, for God's sake dont bring up the '5 bowler'discussion because its not just 5 bowler team but also 7 batsman team. Ashwin & Jadeja together make up for more than 1 batsman

  • Kashi0127 on July 31, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    @GRVJPR Where is all the euphoria? I had said it is unlikely India will survive till Tea time. It turned out to be even worse. Even lunch will not taste good for India. This series is all gone (3-1 or 2-1 in England favor)

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    Well in all 13 sessions were played in this test and India batted hardly 3 sessions both innings together.Dhoni is back to his defensive mentality and guess they are pretty satisfied that they won a test at Lords after 28 years and don't want to win anymore.I will say we were luck that we drew 1st test and won at Lords had England applied themselves like they did today it would have been over.England kept banging the ball short and bowling wide off the off stump and English senior players didn't contribute now everything is in place and they won.I wont be too critical of sir jee as Dhoni kept asking him to bowl leg stump line odd delivery outside off stump had a turn. Batting has been pathetic and hidden by performances of Vijay Rahane and Bhuvi.Dhoni over used Bhuvi and its showing on his performance with Ishant ruled out of 4th test Indian pace attack is bare again Bhuvi listless Shami out of form.Probably India should use its muscle and get bans for Jimmy Moen

  • IndiaAdmirer on July 31, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    Whenever India go up 1-0 at the start of an overseas series,they have shown the tendency to come back to reality in the very next test match. Here too, they did not looked like the same team which won the Lords test. If Ishant Sharma manages to come back for the 4th test(I hope he takes his recovery seriously),then my team would be -

    G Gambhir M Vijay C Pujara V Kohli A Rahane R Jadeja M Dhoni B Kumar R Ashwin I Sharma V Aaron

    For God's sake MS Dhoni, play Gautam Gambhir, you may not share best of relations, but he is the best opener we had for long long time and he is far far better than Dhawan who struggled heavily in last 3 tests. No Rohit Sharma please, play him if you must only in Indian dust bowls against weak sides (Zim,Bangladesh) where he can score in tons. Give a kick to Jadeja to take his spot ultra-seriously and keep pinching ISharma before he goes back to slumber, show Kohli videos of his past exploits,confirm to Pujara that he is the next Dravid.

  • PerfectTen on July 31, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    A savage post mortem for any kind of loss (need not be a huge one like this!) is Indian cricket fans' fav pass time. But, this one needs to be seriously taken - otherwise, we will lose an opportunity to build a team for future. When India won the world cup in 2011, all credit went to MSD for being a 'fab leader'. Now, when India is getting a drubbing every time they go out (even at home at times), his 'fab leadership' needs to be scrutinized. His clear dislike for some individuals and unreasonable backing of a few are there for everyone to see. If on your debut test, you put up a match saving effort with the bat, when picked up essentially as a bowling option, how would you treat him. Give him mere 10 overs? & then discard for the third test? On the other hand, there's a proven failure who has been given umpteen chances to redeem himself gets to even bowl when he hardly tries himself on in the domestic circuit. It's time MSD is relieved of his duties as the skipper before he ruins more

  • Kashi0127 on July 31, 2014, 14:01 GMT

    This test series is almost written off as far as India are concerned. It will be either 3-1 or 2-1 in England favor depending on weather. I am now interested in ODI. Is the India team for ODI also same? They stand a chance only if they make few changes - get rid of Rohit Sharma, Gambhir, Pujara(because Pujara is not a ODI player) and Dhawan. Time to bring in Uthappa, Nayar and few others.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:01 GMT

    Yep Australia will very easily dispose of this sorry Indian team! Aussies won't drop catches and our bowlers will exploit your batsmen weaknesses far better than what England have so far and it all starts at the bouncy Gabba where Australia don't lose and India have never won ha ha.

  • sundersingh on July 31, 2014, 14:00 GMT

    @ Arun Bose i will take that challenge!

  • Anubrata29 on July 31, 2014, 13:59 GMT

    As Ishant will be unavailable for the next test, the teram should be: Vijay Gambhir(c) Pujara Rahane Kohli Wriddhiman Bhuvaneswar Ashwin Jadeja Pankaj I.Pandey

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:57 GMT

    Drs was no excuse for losing this match so heavily, England got poor decisions against them too. Too many of our fans overrate our players, look at the comments even today there were people who felt we had a chance of winning lol. We would be lucky not to lose the series from hereon, our bowling attack looks depleted and the batters are out of form.

  • vishwa1111 on July 31, 2014, 13:56 GMT

    to add that giving 6 wickets to an ordinary spinner is a shame..but sad part is indian fans say indian team is the best against spin....:D shame shame shame

  • brusselslion on July 31, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    Good win for England, however, @ravi_klgi hit the nail on the head: "This is a series between two inconsistent teams".

    Positives for England: Cook, Bell, Anderson, Broad (returns to form?); Buttler (very solid debut as WK), Ali (wow a spinning all-rounder!), Root (decent enough)

    Worries: Woakes (is his bowling penetrating enough?), Jordan, Robson (are they good enough).

    Time for Finn return at OT and debut for Lyth?

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    What has suddenly happened to PUJARA and Kohli. I understand openers struggle against new ball and quality fresh fast bowlers like anderson getting them out, but getting out to Moeen is just not done. We proud ourselves on playing spin well. Past Indian teams made mockery of warne and muralitrharan, won macthes even after following on. What's going on? Como'n back yourself. Get out on attacking shot is acceptabel against moeen but not on these defensive prods.

  • TRAM on July 31, 2014, 13:49 GMT

    266 runs difference is the sum of 1. Difference in wicket-keeping quality 2. Difference in close-in catching quality. IMO, Other differences like bowling & batting are inconsistent with both teams (they nearly match even). Dhoni the captain is too defensive and uninspiring to the team. Dhoni the batsman has never succeeded in foreign conditions and quality bowling. Dhoni the keeper is less than club level. Young aspiring India keepers should watch Butler's agility and technique.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:49 GMT

    As far as, I think England played really well with both ball and bat. However during the bowling i notice they have lack a specialized spinner beside Moin Ali it is better that England must play a specialized spinner because everyday is not the luck of moin ali work. For india they must play Ashwin because pankaj is not a good player as far as i think and it is better that inida must play 7 batsman, 2 spinner and 2 fast blower. Hope see the next test match with good blowing and batting of England

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:47 GMT

    gautam gambhir, murali Vijay, pujara, kohli, rahane, ashwin, dhoni (no option), bhuvaneshwar Kumar, jadeja, varon Aron, shami. This is the best 11 we can pick from d current squad... at least we can try... one last thing to our captain Mr.dhoni pls quit test cricket even if India wins this series... u just don't belong there.. T20 and ODI's are there for u and u r d best in that... and for d selectors they have to bring in a quality spinner like harbajan to win tests @ overseas bcoz we don't have pacers who can get wickets on a consistent basis.... cricinfo pls publish

  • subcontinent-expert on July 31, 2014, 13:46 GMT

    People should stop counting India among better players of spin.. If you look at the past performances (2-3 years) they have struggled against GOOD bowlers.. Panesar in Indian pitches was far better than Indian bowlers.. They can't play Ajmal well and who else Moin Ali showed that Indian players can be trapped if you bowl good areas.. What will happen if Vijay and Rahane goes out of form in next 2 games.....? May be INNINGS DEFEAT is comming soon for Indians...

  • ravi_klgi on July 31, 2014, 13:45 GMT

    I watched the match in bits and pieces. Is there a tally of how many chances India missed in fielding? I am sure that contributed big time to this loss!!

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    Please send back rohit back to India. Ask dhawan to play at lower order and promote rhane at opening. ashwin for rohit is best option

  • vkumar_086. on July 31, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    Congratulations England from the whole of my heart. I knew this game will be over before lunch and I am happy that my predictions as usual went right.

    But dont get carried away please as this Indian team is one of the weakest going around. If Pakistan or Sri Lanka were defeated today, that would have been a bigger reason to be happy. Congratulations anyway.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    I am throwing a challenge to all those naysayers who thinks India won't make a comeback and won't win this series.. If India doesn't win this series and doesn't comeback hard in the next two test matches then as a loyal, die-hard Indian fan promise you all that I will never ever come back here and bother you again but If India wins this series(when India wins this series to be precise) then you all who are bashing India right now must come here at cricinfo and post this-" Sorry India, We were wrong and we underestimated you..You played well to win this series and not because of some luck".. C'mon, Do you accept my challenge?!! This is a challenge thrown at you from the biggest die-hard fan of this Indian team.. I am ready.. I won't come back here if India doesn't come back hard and doesn't wins this series.. It's a promise.. A loyal Indian fan keeps his promise no matter what.. Do you accept my challenge?! Well played England, You deserved this victory..Let's meet at Old trafford now..

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:43 GMT

    First of all Well done England.Hats off to them. What an attitude shown by Captain Cook. Dhoni Should have to learn from cook. With a spinner in Jadeja's standards , he set fields which looks defensive rathar than attacking. I'M A BIG FAN OF MSD.But at times he's is looking too defensive in setting the fields. For instance Engalnd came to bat for the second time in the match they don't really sure what target to fix. But India Helps their cause by setting defensive field and gave away easy runs. Scoring at a rate of 5 rpo in the fourth day of a test match is where the pitch turning square was not only by good batting but very very poor bowling by India. finally when they came to bat for the second time they gave too much respect to the part time off - spinner Mooen Ali. Inadia never shown the attitude of after beating Enagland comprehensively at Lords. My Suggestions to DHONI:- 1.The slip Fielders stand too far behind , Indian bowlers dosen't have the pace to carry that far.

  • vsprabhu01 on July 31, 2014, 13:42 GMT

    Looking ahead, This should be the last series for MSD as for as Tests are concerned. Lets have Kohli as captain. Here we have a classic example when SA handed over captaincy to Smith when he was just 23. If you compare Smith and KOhli, both are talented and both have weakness around offstump ( remember smith was Zak's bunny). But both are attacking players and both have tremendous record when chasing.

  • MiddleStump on July 31, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    A humiliating defeat for India. The series is level at 1-1 but that is misleading. The Lords test was even until the last ball before lunch on the final day when Moen got out. England self destructed to short pitched bowling in a matter of 30 minutes after lunch. In short, India have outplayed England for less than an hour in this series. England outplayed India thoroughly in this win. On a better batting pitch, with an extra batsman, India scored 508 runs after scoring over 600 at Lords on a green track where England bowled poorly. It shows the quality of their 'specialist' batsmen. Outside of Vijay and Rahane, the batsmen can't bat and have glaring technical weaknesses. For two test matches, we saw 'specialist' all rounder Binny play and for three matches we have seen 'specialist' spinner Jadeja bowl. The pace attack has no pace. Looks like a 1-3 defeat in England and a 0-4 result in Australia with a couple of innings defeats at the hands of Mitchell Johnson and company.

  • vkumar_086. on July 31, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    Well played England and cannot ask for anything better. Your team is so well balanced and this will herald a dawn of a new era for England cricket.

    The overrated Indian team nullified in style. Kohli will be an epic failure for sure and cant ask for anything better.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    India got thrashed by England in the 3rd test, when you have an opponent who is bruised, hunted, down, you keep him there, dont allow him to raise his head, England had succumbed to short pitch bowling at Lords, English Press, Commentators,Writers everyone was behind Cook & England team Look what happened in Ageas, all the 15 session were won by England, Indian Bowlers were pathetic, less said about Jadeja, is he a spinner, Sorry mate, they allowed England to score 500 runs, in the 2nd innings England scored 6 runs an over, If India had bowled well in spite of the batsmen failing & not conceded easy runs, may be England would have taken more time to score their target, In Indian 2nd innings it is worst, a part spinner taking 6 wickets, it as aberration for England at Lords, in terms short pitch bowling, this time it is for India, failing against a part time spinner, let us conclude, India have produced greatest Individual players, but it is yet to produce a great cricket team!!!!

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    I dont know why only players from CSK are preferred. Both Jadeja and Ashwin are ODI bowlers.India have two quality bowlers Amit Mishra and Ojha but they are never given proper chances. Mishra is the best legbreak googly bowler at this time but because he does not represent CSK. The other fast bowler who can bowl 150 kph is umesh yadav also not included in this series. Another thing why Raina is given ODI captaincy when Dhoni do not play. Why a proper captain is not groomed in dhoni's absent. Answer is CSK.

  • Herath-UK on July 31, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    Recently it has become a sort of phenomenon that Sri Lankan & Indian batsmen who are born & bred on spinning wickets getting out to ordinary spinners to our disbelief. Duminy did the same in Sri Lanka though to a lesser extent. Probably they put their guard down & become complacent to face the lesser bowlers.

  • BlueJoy on July 31, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    Yup , conclusively beaten well played England and all hail Cook for finally turning it around. India losing wickets in heap to spinners is alarming. If I may I suggest bring Gambhir (He is the best player of spin in the current squad) in for Dhawan and Varun Aaron in for Rohit who lacks the fire and Ishant in for Shami, well Sir Jaddu can take an off and may be Ashwin can take his place ( even if just for the slip catching). 4 bowlers is less in a seamer friendly conditions even though it supports spin. We need some some gene-x to surprise England, hence Aaron at least for his pace The player to watch out for is Ian Bell , who is coming getting his claws back in the game.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    Indian cricket needs quality bowling which they don't have at the min, england will roll over India in remainders

  • JG2704 on July 31, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    @landl47 on (July 31, 2014, 12:51 GMT) Re DRS - Ravi Shastri said one of the issues they have with it is the technology re the predictable path of the ball on LBWs - so if the India had their way the Bell not out decision which so many are crying about would not have been reversed anyway. Either they should accept DRS or accept the odd howler if you don't or even develop something that you believe is more reliable or be quiet on the matter

  • JG2704 on July 31, 2014, 13:38 GMT

    Nice one England but whether we've stopped the rot or not remains to be seen.

    We had some luck as many are very keen to point out but what those are not so keen to point out is that England made the most of the decisions which went against them whereas India did not.Some Indian batsmen had lives but did not go on to score big. I'm certainly not one who will go overboard with the win - albeit comprehensive. I said before the seies that both sides are vulnerable and the series could go either way - still can. I'm certainly not saying Eng have turned a corner or that India will fold. Kohli has had a poor tour but surely it's only a matter of time before he finds his feet and he is a game changer. It will be interesting to see what happens to Jimmy. Losing him could well be pivotal in India's favour.

  • champx on July 31, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    @sachin Chavan Binny was bought in as seamer cum Batter.His job was to bowl until our mains bowlers gained some proper energy and momentum.But i dont know why he Dhoni didnt even give the bowl to him in second innings(trying prove something to someone i guess) and ultimately caused injury of Ishant and exhaustion of bhuvi.I see you have no complains against our #legend Rohit?Btw why dont you compare FC record between Binny,Ashwin and jadeja.Let me know what you think.

  • jmcilhinney on July 31, 2014, 13:36 GMT

    @Pradiptamohan Basu on (July 31, 2014, 13:10 GMT), I appreciate that you say that the umpiring errors are not an excuse but I have to correct your assertion that more of the mistakes were in India's favour. In England's first innings, Ballance and Bell were given not out when they should have been out, then Ballance was given out when he should have been not out. Rahane was then given not out when he was out, Ballance was given out again when he should have been not out and finally Dhawan was given not out when he should have been out. That's 4-2 in India's favour. You can't call Rahane's disallowed catch of Buttler a mistake because that was 50/50 at best. More umpiring errors than you'd want to see, yes, but the fact that England's batsmen scored loads of runs after their lucky breaks while the India batsmen could not was telling.

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on July 31, 2014, 13:36 GMT

    Is Anderson the most-loved cricketer in England or something? Moeen Ali surely deserved the man of the match.

  • Charlie101 on July 31, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Has any one worked out how the DRS would have influenced this match - Bell out for 0 , Rahana caught off Moen but not out , Balance not out twice plus others I can not remember . As I write it seems the mistakes ended up about even but I would love to see a proper analysis .

    Old Trafford will be interesting as the Indian team does not have Sharma and we may not have Anderson . Plunkett to come in and I hope Woakes keeps his place as he bowled tightly without much luck .

  • Alberteinstien on July 31, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Next match team Ashwin,murli,pujara,Kohli,Rahane,Rohit,Rishi Dhawan,dhoni,Jadeja,Praveen kumar and bhuvneshwar kumar.5 batsman,2spinning allrounder 1seam bowling allrounder(Rishi) and Two Specilist swing bowler who can also bat.Remember that Bhuvi and Praveen both has opened for U.P.

  • Surajrises on July 31, 2014, 13:33 GMT

    Moeen Ali is the deserving MOM because he took 8 wickets in this match that too against the team which is known to be the BEST against the Spinners. Brits are too BIASED and keep on giving Anderson MOM award. In the 1st & 2nd match as well it was Bhuvi who deserved the MOM award but Anderson was given that award in the 1st match and Ishant in the 2nd match because of his bowling in that particular innings. How will the other players get motivated if these guys are so biased! Moeen Ali certainly deserved the MOM for his performance against India.

  • RAJAN0862 on July 31, 2014, 13:33 GMT

    This team is more interested in raking needless controversies. Jadeja affair was avoidable, could have been settled with handshake. Only team in the world which opposes DRS and it is very clearly evident had DRS been there result could have been different. Kohli more interested in Anushka than playing. Team focused on everything other than cricket. Result is for everybody to be seen.

  • AjitDJ on July 31, 2014, 13:32 GMT

    Does Dhoni remember he's one of the batsmen too? What about his own failures? And the fifth bowler can't take wickets if the captain doesn't use him at all!

  • peace_barta on July 31, 2014, 13:32 GMT

    Now Shakib can seriously think about moeen.hes now become the original challenger for Shakib in test.vernon Phillandar with a batting avg of 27 cant be count here . LOL. Watson ? not good batting avg and poor wicketeker in test.Hafeez ? No way !!! not the batting or bowling avg !!! Mathews ? hes only have batting avg !!! HM.we want to see good competition between Moeen & Shakib.Go Ahea Brothers.

  • subcontinent-expert on July 31, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    Poor performance and total surrender caused Indians tihs match.. Enough of Dhawan try Gautam Gambhir also Ashwin irrespective of PITCH.. If bhuvi is fit then try AAron for Shami.. Well I don't expect Dhoni to change much in the team untill it is 1-2 deficit for India.. So both Dhawan will play in next game and if Ashwin is playing then Jaddu will be dropped but it will be 7-4 combo.. I hope not but Dhoni is like that captain and Kohli is not playing well so no captaincy change in the next tour also... Need a better wkt keeper and Dhoni is not the best 5 in India currently in Tests....

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    congrats t England on a great win,also well done t cook n moeen

  • Rajeshj on July 31, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    What role is Jadeja playing in this series.. a spinner or an all-rounder.. If he is a spinner than he hardly has 5 wickets to show in 3 tests.. he couldn't take a single wicket on a 5th day pitch in 2nd test.. he couldn't take a decent wicket in this third test which assisted spin .. all his wickets in 3rd test was either due to batsmen mistakes or umpire errors.. not due to his spin.. excepting a freaky 68, he has nothing to show till date.. same goes with Dhawan and Shami.. this is not a flat pitch, but it was made to look flat by some insipid bowling by Indian bowlers.. Change in team composition is mandatory.. But who knows, Dhoni might still prefer his own side kicks instead of opting for meritorious team selection..

  • luv_indo.cric on July 31, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    Dhawan need to be replaced by GG,Ashwin should come in for Rohit and varun aaron indias fastest bowler should take place in for shami.there is still time.but if they miss this tactic they will ruin the proud of 28 yeas achived in home of cricket

  • ravi_klgi on July 31, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    This is a series between two inconsistent teams!. So this is what you expect!.

    So much for all the hoopla about Binny in the last two test matches. What did Rohit do? Binny at least saved the first test!

  • Yarms on July 31, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    Next test India will bounce back. Team . Vijay, Pujara, Rehane, Kholi, Rohit, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Aaron, Singh.

    Pujara might as well open he is nearly opening now in most innings. Two spinners, 3 quicks, one who swings it and 2 who hit the deck. 9 batsmen. In my mind this is a balanced side. If we Bring in Gambir then we need to drop a bowler. Pankaj Singh deserves another chance. He bowled quite well generally. Pity about Ishant

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    When a Test player on debut scores 78 runs and saves the game for you, the player needs protection and encouragement. You cannot drop him after just 2 tests.

    A winning combination they say needs no change, but now a losing one seems in need of total change .

    India lost the game on the first day with poor catching as well as poor bowling.Now they have to fight with their back to the wall and win the next test and silence critics.

  • Alberteinstien on July 31, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    R Ashwin is the need of the hour.Remove Dhawan and put Ashwin in opening.Ashwin and murli are from same team(Tamil nadu) so they will have better understandin between them.Ashwin has opened for Tamil nadu and made hundred along with Vijay.

  • ZainE111 on July 31, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    I don't think I have ever heard Dhoni give unconditional credit to an opposition team or an opposition player.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    Vijay, Dhawan (Told to Att), Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Aaron (Forget line and length, just bowl as fast as he could), Pankaj ... A good team dont you think ?

    Dhawan has had a few 30s not great, but he scored a 100 just three matches ago, so calm down. Gambhir may seem a good solution but when was the last time he played in the swinging seaming conditions? 3 years ago in England and he was abysmal, and got dropped. So bringing him from the blue in the same conditions he failed is not exactly a great option.

  • MeijiMura on July 31, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    An embarrassing performance by India. Even aside from all the bad luck they suffered on Day 1 their fielding and batting weren't up to the task and they lost every single session of the Test. India batted spinelessly and without skill, application and pride. Rahane is the only one who offered anything in the Test and yet his dismissal in the 1st innings was as pathetic a dismissal I have ever seen. England have two outstanding bowlers in Anderson and Broad and absolutely nothing left in reserve. If you put this XI into a five Test series against Australia and South Africa either home or away the result would be a 5-0 loss. Yet somehow India allowed a second rate pie-chucker to take two vital wickets in the 1st innings and a ridiculous six wickets in the 2nd innings. Getting out to Anderson and Broad is one thing, but getting out to Ali is another. It's totally inexcusable. On this showing India will go on to lose the series 3-1 against England and Australia will destroy them 4-0.

  • LAKINGSFAN on July 31, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    Ashwin would have been the difference had he played. It's sad to see part-time spinners rattle through the Indian batting line up where as India's top line spinner is carrying drinks. Ashwin would DEFINITELY have scored more than Rohit Sharma scored and could have easily picked up a handful of wickets. Bad team selection let the team down. I don't know if Dhoni has guts to drop Dhawan and Kohli for the next match.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    one of the best level of captaincy from Alastair Cook and well supported by his teammates.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:23 GMT

    First Dhoni chose Binny as 5th Bowler option. But one must understand on rating of 10 .. Binny may get just 5 counts as bowler. Therefore it is futile to choose him as bowler when you have other options like Ashwin. He is also not a 100% batsman therefore dont understand How and Why he came into playing eleven! Regarding Comparison between Jadeja and Ashwin .. at the moment both are inexperienced .. both are on learning curve .. but certainly Ashwin has more variations than Jadeja .. In batting in Ranji, certainly Jadeja looks better but when both bats Ashwin's batting approach looks certainly better than Jadeja in tests. Dont know why Jadeja always gets better chance over Ashwin always??? Regarding choice of Rohit.. It may correct decision to choose extra batsman when thre of the top order batsmen (Kohli, Pujara and Dhawan) are not scoring. But certainly if you really wants to include batsman then Gambhir should have been there.

  • Cric_Janbaz on July 31, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    Moeen Ali has above 7000 first class runs at average over 38 and played a resilient knock against sri lanka recently....so it would be harsh on him to say as Ian Chappel said that Moeen can't bat

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Pathetic display to say the least! and all this without too much of an effort from Anderson and Broad. when was the last time an Indian team list so many wickets to part time spin?! next time someone says Indians are good players of spin bowling, we need to point at this display. some players of spin we are!!!! awful!

  • sundersingh on July 31, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    India should pick players only after seeing what ECB dished out for us in OT...Dont have to take in ashwin in place of a batsman, if ashwin has to be in, then he should be in place of jaddu... 3 seamers should be pankaj, bhuvi and aaron.. If OT offering some spin means both spinners can be in the team... Shami should be given a stick and roasted in our domestic circuit for at least 2 seasons...

  • Samychennai on July 31, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    Dhoni is saying that he is not picking the 5th bowler because he never used 5th. That is the way he could defend his mistake. Suppose he has picked Ashwin as 5th bowler then he must have used him. So, ideally Rohit won't have chance. I don't know why Dhoni is adamant to pick Ashwin. If Ashwin not picked in slow track then where he could? Is Moeen Ali is better bowler than Ashwin? If he got 6 wickets then why won't Ashwin?

  • Alberteinstien on July 31, 2014, 13:18 GMT

    Nice fairwell to Dhawan and Pankaj.

  • desiboy454 on July 31, 2014, 13:17 GMT

    What a pathetic performance by India.. Seriously did they even want to play? You had just won a great test, did you think you will steam roll England again.. MSDs captaincy back to normal, defense defense. U have a spinner who is there to stem the flow of runs, while your seamers leak runs. Great Idea! I understand bringing in Rohit instead of Binny cuz Binny didn't do anything. But seriously, Rohit blew it in the first innings. Ali is a good bowler but not worth taking 6 wickets in England against a subcontinent team. Need a big revamp for 2nd test. Dhawan/Jadeja/Shami have to go. bring Rahane at 4. put virat at 5. They have been poor for a while now. My XI: 1. GG 2. Vijay 3. Pujara 4. Rahane 5. Virat 6. Rohit 7. MSD 8. Ashwin 9. Bhuvi 10. Vaaron 11. Singh.. If Ishant was fit I would use Ishant instead of singh. but Ashwin needs to come in place of Jadeja, and dhoni has to use him as attacking option. I can see England stumped by Ashwin to an extent. and Use aaron for Pace/Bounce

  • vsprabhu01 on July 31, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    " India bounced out England at Lords and England spun out India at Southampton" may be the talk of the town, but in reality England bowled and batted pretty badly in Lords and here they were pretty much on Target. Proof is out of 13 sessions we played here, we could not even win 1 session ( 2hrs). Coming to Mr.Dhoni, He is a great ODI and T20 captain. But in tests, when things are not going his way, he tends to shift to containing mode rather attacking differently which works wonders for him in ODIs and T20s. If we see the use of Jadeja, 90% of his line was leg stump to contain runs and on the other hand Moeen was attacking 100% with off stump line with men around and both are part timers Coming to Bowlers, becoz of under use of Binny in two tests where he could have few wickets had he been bowled more, our captain over used his best bowler ( B. Kumar), who was looking unfit in this test. Even team selection was negative going back to 4 bowlers. Should this be the last series for MS.

  • momer79 on July 31, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    Congratulation to Eng from SL fans.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:14 GMT

    Well played England, well bowled Moeen Ali.God Bless England.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 31, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Cheers to Eng for a clinical W.Easily 1 all sessions played right after toss.It was just a matter of time-just about a session-before most deserved W was wrapped.3 cheers to a fantastic,sporting pitch,best of series.Eng on course for 3-1 W.From India.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:11 GMT

    So then Indian extra batsmen not scoring runs neither fifth bowler taking wickets. So why they don't try a slipper, can be a effective change for the bowlers as they will only have to get an edge

  • subcontinent-expert on July 31, 2014, 13:11 GMT

    with 8 of 11 players struggling it was obvious that India will loose.. You can't win a test if you can't win any session.. Bhuvi looked tired also he may be the next in the injury list.. Dhavan,Kohli,Shami needs to go but I think only Dhavan will be left out and still no clue about 5 bowlers.. May be Ashwin in the next game if Dhoni is aware of the need of the moment.. Well cricinfo won't publish so I need to dilute my words.. but c'mon Dhoni you should learn from Bhuvi about batting.. I m a big Dhoni fan but he has only disappointed fans like us in TEST(only and strictly).. Now if he is removed then question will be to whom captaincy should be given as Kohli looks like another Raina in the making..

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    This who think indias win at Lords was a fluke, well it wasn't. It was all team effort and good bowling. This match purely England's effort and bad discipline by indian players.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    Three changes in the next test please. Ashwin for Rohit, he is a better batter than Rohit, forget bowling. Aaron for Shami who looks off color at the moment. Some rest would do him good. And finally, Gauti for Dhawan.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    You win some you lose some. This England team too got a drubbing a few months ago down under. What is worrying is the fact that we could not play against spin bowling and that too against no Warne, Swann, or Ramnarine. Of course there were umpiring errors - unfortunately, more of them going against India. But, that can not be any excuse for a very average Indian batting (except Rahane), bowling and fielding.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    their part time spinner takes 6 and our best batsmen play him as if they have not played never in their life time. our best spinner carries drinks. their bowlers are raring to go and damn fit where as our best bowler is rested in successive game due to injury.that sums up the 3rd test. it is disgusting to see our batsmen getting out to innocuous deliveries. replace dhawan with gambhir and bring ashwin. it should be 5+wk+3+2.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    whn will dhoni stop givin xcuse for a loss.....

  • whocared on July 31, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    Pls promote Rahane to the top. Rahane is THE NEXT WALL. Not pujara definitely. Imagine rahul batted 5th in his whole career.

  • Darkmanx12155 on July 31, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    @ TomDeSailor : Do not criticize Dhoni. What he said was very true. Binni was just a passenger. at least rohith is a genuine all rounder and a far better batsman than binni. He tried his best. What can he do without his ACE bowler ishant? I think he will pick ashwin for the next game as an allrounder with jadeja. two spinners will not hurt india because without ishant, any other fast bowler will be useless..

  • Vkarthik on July 31, 2014, 13:04 GMT

    But it's the bowling we need to improve and hit the top of off stump - Can't believe Dhoni said this with a straight face. With a debutant, out of form bowler he should have tried to boost his bowling instead of going for extra batsman. Predictably he is blaming the bowlers when the third highest run getter of the series is a bowler.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:02 GMT

    6 wckts 2 a spinner....ain't v knw how 2 play spin

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 31, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    @TomDeSailor Kohli the new Yuvi?

    Kohli has scored runs in Aus (when others failed), South Africa and New Zealand. He's just having an off series like Che Pujara.

    As @FrancisMel has rightly said, the same people predicting India would get whitewashed are now changing their tune after one poor performance by India. Truth is, both sides are balanced besides maybe the bowling attack. But bring in Aaron and things will look different.

    India will bounce back from this.

  • avingodb on July 31, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    India did not even have 4 bowlers this time around; Pankaj was too new and Bhuvi and Shami are relatively inexperienced. Thats why you needed the fourth full bowler in form of Ashwin. So India in essence had 3.5 bowlers.

    And I thinks its time Dhawan is rested and Gambhir tried out for next two games. Dhawan is not justifying his place at all

  • INDSlider on July 31, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    @Big_Poppa_94: Not just an off day, rather 5 off days for Ind.......

  • CalvinTheCricLover on July 31, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    Four bowler strategy was always going to fail outside of India. Common sense!! This was observed both in SA and NZ. We switched after the strategy succeed just for one pathetic reason : to accommodate NOHIT sharma. And boy did he come good at the right time. #Legend. Seriously, thats the best he can do overseas

  • fan1099 on July 31, 2014, 12:59 GMT

    This england side won mainly due to luck and silly mistakes by India. Is is comical how the public perception of a team's ability changes after just 1 match. But any how heartning to see the mach ending without becoming a bore like Sri Lanka Vs SA 2nd test.

  • mikkkk on July 31, 2014, 12:59 GMT

    "I bet you predicted England winning 5-0 "

    You would lose that bet. We don't predict 5-0s because of the weather if nothing else. The people who were predicting a hammering before the series were Indians.

    "Indias are not the Travellers they used to be."

    Their record suggests they are.

  • anbil on July 31, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    indias last innings was very poor.. I thought the match close to atleast tea break. but wicket felt quick. pls next match bring ashwin.. he is the only man make the English mens trouble. I think next match rahena should play at no3 and pujara down to no4. pls give chance to gambir. sure he will fit for make big contribution with vijay. without ashwin and gambir next match also India loose.

  • mzm149 on July 31, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    I knew last win of India at Lords was fluke. They have returned to where they belong. It was exciting to see a part timer like Moeen Ali crushing so-called world class Indian batsmen with his extremely simple bowling. An extremely ordinary side will always remain ordinary. They won't win a match on this tour now. Congrats England. You deserve it.

  • tinuchopra on July 31, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    Bring in Binny as well..... it seems he is Team India Luck Charm..... Rohit should play in India A only....

  • challagalla on July 31, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    splendid win by England. Their catching improved and that was a big difference from the first test. Disappointed with Indian batting. I accept the English batting and bowling was better in this test. Yet again our bowling on lifeless pitches looks spent and incapable of taking 20 wickets. Jadeja is over rated and yet I am not in favour of Ashwin coming in. Ashwin is another bowler incapable of taking wickets abroad. Always difficult to bat for a draw and the mindset of the batsmen is defensive. I wish they had played their natural attacking game . It was painful to watch Kohli trying to defend. Maybe we should learn a trick or two from South Africa in extricating ourselves from these difficult situations.

  • CricketChat on July 31, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    Eng should thank Ind team for it generosity. They let down and out Cook and Bell return to roaring form, helped Moeen become a top spin bowler handing him a 6-for no less that a lot more full-time spin bowlers could never achieve in their entire career.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    @Thowfik Iqbal : Anderson got the crucial and top wickets and he is the man who destroy India. Moeen did a outstanding job destroying the tail of Indian batsmen. Mooen had eniugh contribution but Anderson did what is required.

  • landl47 on July 31, 2014, 12:51 GMT

    @Francis Mel and manoj patil- so you support the use of DRS, then? Glad to hear it. Be sure and let your Board know.

    Oh, by the way, you forgot to mention that Ballance was wrongly given out twice and Rahane, the only Indian batsman to put up a fight, was wrongly given not out in the first innings. I'm sure it was just an oversight on your part.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:51 GMT

    Great victory under pressure by England. Cook's form was crucial for getting his side back on winning track. Glad to see Ian Bell in form alongwith. Had these two guys clicked earlier in series, Lords result would have been different. Moeen Ali bowled exceptionally well.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    Good win by England with Robson, Woakes and Jordan being mere passengers. Out of 11 only 8 players performed close to potential and the team won comfortably. England would again do well retaining this side for the third test. One of the masterstrokes has been Prior making way for Butler.

    India have many problems in all the departments starting with Dhoni's batting ability in tests. All the batsmen got start apart from the openers with Dhawan looking terribly out of place. Among the bowlers, no one looked like getting a wicket with Shami looking like a ghost of the bowler he was against the Windies. To be fair, Aaron, Pandey and Ashwin should be in for Shami, Pankaj and Jadeja. Rohit should be pushed to the top replacing Dhawan and India should go with 5 bowlers.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    We lost the match with all 13 sessions.. Fully Whitewash.. We can't win outside India.. What a performence by No.1 batting lineup of the world.. In all 3 tests.. Bhuvi's batting performence is better than that of Dhawan, Pujara, Kohli and Captain Cluless MSD... After this performence I can say "#RIP Lord's victory..."

  • computerguru on July 31, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    @Francis Mel, ever heard of something called 'DRS' kiddo? Its there to reverse such incidents (moeen also would've got another had it been available, ballance wouldn't be dismissed either). Oh well, some people may decide to put their heads in the sand and expect everybody to become super human and ultra-perfect. And for Cook's catch, only India's poor slip fielding is to blame but people with some sort of sense will understand there is absolutely no other way to prevent umpiring howlers.

    On another note, what about every Indian batters getting starts and throwing their wickets?

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    well this is what happens when the best bowler and second best batsman (Ashwin) is kept on the bench instead of a bits and pieces player(SRJ)...........

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    Manor patil u know india is the only team which is against DRS. .and u r blaming umpiring! !! And indian team is too bad..If u think..Dhawan, jadea, rohith all r not test players

  • y4yoga on July 31, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    After watching the 3rd match I had some observations, Before the starter of the series as Everyone said Kholi and Pujara are the backbone of the batting, that time itself virtually proved that they won't have a big scores in this series, England too thought the same way and focused on them in the 1st 2 Test matches, but after that they came to know, The real headache is Vijay , Rahane and Bhuvi(from nowhere), so They focused on These three and they got success too. see Vijay and Bhuvi failed to score in the both the innings, which made the runs dry, though Rahane managed to half centuries, so again depending on these Three will make the conditions even worst, so one of Kholi or pujara need to get a big score and Ashwin in the Playing XI is a mandate in the batting and bowling and most importantly in slips. Its a now or never situation for Team India

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    Clinical performance from the England team.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    Not taking anything away from moeen,bt i feel india shud have performed far better in front of moeen..indian batting was always expected to have crumbled on english pitches..in fact it was surprising to see india crossing 200 runs mark in the first 2 tests...you can never expct to win a test match with batsmen like dhawan,pujara,rohit who cannot occupy the crease even for a session..and finally i still don't know if jadeja is a batsman or a bowler..cz he is applauded even if he scores a 30 with the bat or even take a wicket with the ball..i find no point of keeping him in the test team..congrats to england

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 31, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    Aussies in SA,NZ in the WI,best subcont team,our little island neighbours Lankans in this same country Eng,then SA in Lankans den.Yes,these are list of o/s series Ws by these teams in just the past year.Guess,'Every1 loses away' is no excuse anymore! :)

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    India Need Rest. india need good couch which gives Indian players new strategies how to play when to play indian players should stop money making tournaments (like IPL) players manages fitness for ipl but in playing real matchs they dont care in my point of view india should try some slow games for practice because fast game T20 is not good for test they lose their stamina earlier. if you adjust your batting for fast game then you can't play slow game

  • SatishTembey on July 31, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    Well done England! Played very well. Good captaincy by Cook, seems had planned very well. Very good bowling changes. For India, it is a pathetic display. I wonder how India can give wickets to a bowler, who occasionally turned ball. I don't think he bowled as well as suggested by his figures. His bowling line was good. I think probable reasons could be - 1. Lack of batting practice against spin - on such a long tour we do not have very good spinners to practice in nets. Even, I don't recognise as a very good off spinner. We lack genuine off spinners like Prasanna / Venkata. It needs to be confirmed or could be a selection flaw. 2. Lack of foot work - Indian batsman were very tentative for both fast bowlers and spinners. 3. Absence of "Think-tank" - absence of Sachin-Dravid-Ganguli" in dressing room is felt. 4. Dhoni's captaincy - lack of plans and enthusiastic participation is not shown by Dhoni. He rarely discuss with other players. People say his decisions are "on instinct" ????

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    England are back in form atlast all the credit goes to India in that. We have made the entire England team to perform now, woeful batting starts for India. England has turned the face of real batting of India, when the ball starts swinging then we cannot withstand one day in a test. one worst thing is now we cannot say even we face spinners strongly. Spinners completly dominated us in this test along with pace bowlers. If we have a chance to replace Dhoni i will go for that option first, atlast hopefully Dhoni will anounce his retirement from test, i will prefer that, please make a way for youngsters and way for India to win. We dont want the same team for rest of the test, please bring in varoon, Ashwin, Gambir and keep out Rohit, dhawan, shami and if possible kholi with Ishwar

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    there you go again people....keep some patience.....you only taged them with legends noun in the last game and suddenly after one game questions raised for evacuation...come on...give them some time...still 2 test matches to go....they will definitely bounce back....

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:41 GMT

    bring in aron & ashwin. as for dhawan n rohit Pl tell them to play only in ipl. this series loss in advance is specially dedicated to all the headless selectors and the ipl lovers.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    Many are now predicting England winning the series 3-1. I bet you predicted England winning 5-0 before the series began. The truth is both Teams are evenly matched and Indias are not the Travellers they used to be.

  • Naresh28 on July 31, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    SOME of the Indian players dont have the appetite to play TEST matches over 5 days. These should be weeded out of the team. There is a clear lack of fight for this format - especially the captain. We have two youngsters who could fill the wicket keeper role quite easily. There is Manoj Tiwari who could replace a lazy Rohit Sharma. How on earth Dhoni can justify 4 bowler policy?

  • TomDeSailor on July 31, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    "But it's the bowling we need to improve and hit the top of off stump. We will have to think about the four-bowler strategy. We can say the extra batsman didn't score, but then again the extra bowler didnt pick up wickets." I cant believe that Dhoni actually said this. Our batsmen failed miserably, our fielders drop catches and the captain blames the bowlers. The extra batsman Rohit threw away his wicket in both innings, Dhoni didnt let the "extra bowler"(binny at Lords) bowl much and he says "the extra bowler" didnt pick wickets. Dhoni himself should be dropped, solely based on his performances.. He simply doesnt have the skill or temperament to play a test outside the subcontinent. Kohli is turning out to be another Yuvi, ODI king but hopless in tests. Pujara is having a rare off series, he will bounce back.. Rahane has excelled.. Jaddu out, ashwin in.. Ashwin is anyday far better bowler & batsman than jaddu.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    Lets not kid anybody. England couldnt have won if Cook was caught, Bell was given out first ball and Ballance was given caught behind. It is not a matter of what ifs as this happens in every game and is part of the game. But when you 3 mistakes lead to more than 300 runs then its makes it impossible to win.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:36 GMT

    Take tall & muscular players like pankaj for india.With skill alone alone you cannot win in overseas nations.Because with good physique & muscles you can increase pace,you can attack through line& you can play with positive mindset.You can inflict fear in opposition.If indian actors play cricket they will play good cricket than current team& see their physique.So,Basics are not right for india.Unless india cricketers focus their attention on physique,they will never dominate cricket like aus.So,beware of your stamina& physique.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 31, 2014, 12:36 GMT

    Congratulations England, and hats off to Ali. Shane Warne / Graeme Swann he ain't, but he did his job and induced mistakes from the weary Indians. A nod of appreciation towards Buttler as well; never doubted his ability with the bat (so long as England don't tinker too much with his technique) but was nervous about his keeping. Have to hold my hands up and say he's proved me wrong and he's living up to all the hype surrounding him beforehand.

    This result has livened up the series even further now. One win doesn't suddenly make world-beaters, but I think I can speak for all England supporters in saying "phew... there they are. Been missing for a while...". More of the same now please England.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:35 GMT

    v called ourself a good team just a week ago.....now u c... v r back again to the form.....

  • landl47 on July 31, 2014, 12:34 GMT

    Very solid all-round performance from England. The new guys- Ballance, Root, Moeen and Buttler- did well and this time they were supported by the seniors. Woakes, although less dramatically than Pankaj, bowled well in both innings with no luck at all. Given that as a batsman he has a FC average of 38 with 8 centuries (if he was Australian he'd be a contender for the #3 spot) he's certainly worth keeping in the side. Jordan didn't have a good game, although even he took a couple of nice catches. It was pleasing to see yesterday that Stokes made a 50- I thought he was England's best bowler at Lord's and if he comes in for Jordan England's attack looks pretty useful.

    I have to eat crow about Moeen; if you'd said before the game that he'd would get a 6fer against India and bowl them out on the 5th day I'd have laughed. He bowled like a seasoned test spinner. Good work, Mo.

    India didn't put up much of a fight in this game and they'll be concerned about that. See you at Old Trafford.

  • y4yoga on July 31, 2014, 12:34 GMT

    No Ishant for the next test, may the remainder of series, no real threat from shami, Bhuvi ideal in the first 30 overs, jadeja keeps up the over rate. I wonder what realy goes on MSD's mind in thinking about the remaining Test matches. I am afraid that they'll through the good start of the series to a bad finish.

  • 5wombats on July 31, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    Good win by England who have discovered in Moeen Ali a decent spin replacement for Graham Swann. The writing was on the wall for India yesterday when Root and Moeen got crucial wickets bowling spin. Weren't we all told that India are great players of spin? It doesn't look like it to me. In India in 2012 Swann and Monty rolled India up on numerous occasions on "sporting tracks" - India clearly had a weakness against spin. Now here in England they are again showing a critical weakness against spin. This pitch was dry and the weather very hot. India cannot claim overcast conditions or that this was some seaming pasture. This India defeat was not to do with dropped catches or bad umpiring either (bad umpiring that could have been improved if DRS had been in use...). Here quite simply India were out batted and out bowled for 4 days. I am disappointed that India could not even get through to lunch here - but at least I feel vindicated in not driving down to Southampton this morning.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    England must thank dhoni and team for dropping so many catches,should thank to umpires as well they did not give butler out and bell out when they were on zero,also ballance was out on 15 was not given too. India gifted wickets to Moeen ali in 1st innings too. This england side is very avg side. India can beat them in next games if they play well..nothing to worry abt.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    i think we should call back zaheer khan for the next or 5th test bcz now he is fitt

  • roversgate on July 31, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Dismal performance by Team India, stopped watching after the 3rd day. I think its time that India announces a replacement for Dhoni. Whoever the replacement is, won't start immediately of course so Dhoni will still be a captain until the next set of overseas tours.

    My team for the next test: (1) Murali Vijay (2) Gautam Gambhir (3) Cheteshwar Pujara (4) Ajinkya Rahane (5) Virat Kohli (6) MS Dhoni (7) R. Ashwin (8) Bhuvneshwar Kumar (9) Mohammad Shami (10) Varun Aaron (11) Pankaj Singh

    Dhawan should be dropped and shifted to reserve opener in future series. Kohli should return to #4 from the next tour (rahane is in too good form to bat so low right now). B. Kumar is batting well enough to compensate for Ashwin being at #7. Dhoni should retain the 5 bowler policy until the end of this series and all the batsmen better buck up.

  • Venkatb on July 31, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Year in and year it, we see the same story about India - a team of XI where at least 8 are not worthy of a place in a combined team with the opposition, a team filled with mega egos, a Teflon-coated captain who survives despite the worst reign in Indian cricket history, a BCCI more interested in raking in more money and in India's standing off the cricket field than on it. Change has to begin immediately and with the captaincy - the current best candidate may be the one not in the playing XI - Gautam Gambhir. Had Dhawan and Kohli been playing for England, they would have been dropped by now, not to mention all the Indian bowlers. India did not win the previous Test on its own merits, England imploded and lost. And almost all English players are back in form registering career bests in no time. The disease in India cricket will not go away until the current establishment (read Srinivasan and co.) are removed.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    why James Anderson man of the match, he took just 7 wickets, but moien ali took 8 wickets, whats.the point james got m.o.m, moien ali only.deserve it

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    Nice reply by england...India should forget their past 5 days on field if they want to stay alive in the series..India should make some wise changes...Gambhir should be given a chance in place of consistently inconsistent dhawan...I suggest India should play with 5 specialist batsmen with dhoni at 6..bring in Ashwin if the conditions demand him...At least he bats for a longer duration than Jadeja...Hopefully Ishant will be back for the next test with pankaj missing out though he wasnt that bad as his numbers suggest...but Shami is a serious concern..India may use Aaron or Ishwar but we really want Umesh to strengthen our bowling...

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    Horrible cricket from India. Complete domination from England. Well deserved winners.Congratulations to them. Dhawan, Kohli and Shami need to be rested/dropped. Gambhir, Ashwin and Aaron in place of them respectively. Final chances for Pankaj and Jadeja.

  • y4yoga on July 31, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    I really wonder when everyone say " Indians are the Best Players in the world against spin", how do that suit when this Team falling cheaply to a parttime spinner.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    How hypocritical from Dhoni! At the presentation he said "...We can say the extra batsman didn't score, but then again the extra bowler didn't pick up wickets."...Well, more like, "...I didn't let the extra bowler bowl at all, and when he did bowl and created a simple chance, I let it go, so that I can drop him in the next match and play one my favourites..." Not cool at all from so- called 'captain cool'... Please, please put team needs before personal ego next time...

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 31, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    A well deserved victory for Eng. We haven't won a single session this match but 4th innings was a bit of shocker. Batsmen should give some respect to Ali rather than going for some ego shots. Time to give Jadeja a break(i wasn't convinced with his counter attacking half century in Lords test either. He had his chances). At the end of the series Dhoni not cook should be stripped of Test captaincy. Still betting on the likes of kholi and pujara to come back strongly this test.

  • Farce-Follower on July 31, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Superb victory for England. And lacklustre captaincy and application from India. The rebound is so strong, I fear that India will just capitulate over the next two tests. The T-20 and ODI heroes are just not standing up to the scrutiny of a tougher and more demanding format.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    England has to be given credit but India also has made much efforts to survive on an tricky English pitch. so alott to come forward n I predict that its India 2-1 this series with a draw at old trafford(as per the history) and India again will win at London .

  • RogerC on July 31, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    Now India will bring in Ashwin for next test. But the English batsmen are already back in top form, so Ashwin will fail to impress. Dhoni will drop Ashwin again for next series and use Jadeja as the main spinner.

  • baskar_guha on July 31, 2014, 12:21 GMT

    What worries me is not the loss itself but what MSD said after the loss which to me was someone who doesn't really understand test cricket - its about runs and wickets, play your shots, etc etc. What nonsense. Doesn't bode well for India.

  • bMike on July 31, 2014, 12:21 GMT

    Congrats boys…!!! It seems England will win this test series 3-1. Rahane is the only Indian batsman capable of handing the bat in England. So impressed with Moeen's performance. Honestly I don't remember the last time India won an away test series. Was it in 1980's? Indian should bring back Gambir and Ashwin to avoid embarrassment in next 2 tests.

  • Sirimann on July 31, 2014, 12:21 GMT

    Could England have won if Jadeja took that catch off Cook?

  • Quichang on July 31, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    Eliminate Dhawan, Pujara and Kohli....from this Test Series and allow Gambhir, Ashwin and Ishwar Pandey. Ridiculous !!!

  • raogp2003 on July 31, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    Let us give Dhoni some rest. Let Kohli lead the side and replace Dhawan with Gambhir, Shami with Varun, Dhoni with Saha, Jadeja with Ashwin, Rohit with Stuart binny. There is no logical reason for Rohit to be playing test matches outside India and so is for Dhawan. They neither have the technique, talent nor the grit and tenacious mental application of Murali Vijay. Unless rain interferes, 3-1 result is very much on cards. Let us have players who fight it hard with a fierce determination and tenacious mental application. It would never hurt as much as the defeat with out a fight.Let us respect and welcome those players who will make Englad swet every bit to earn their win.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    Well Done England .. Hats off to them and cook. Rahane again a lone battle . Gambhir should be back at the expense of Dhawan.. I predict 1-1

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    Good win from England Cook is in form India have to change some of players if they dont they have lost the series

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    Well done England after a long time with firing all cylinders of batting bowling & fielding.

  • psniyer on July 31, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    Unfortunate loss.This is the problem with not just Indian cricket but our mentality as well.we relax too early.after one win,we thought we have won the series.THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.something to do with our up bringing probably-not going for the kill when the opposition is down and out.AN AUSTRALIA OR SOUTH AFRICA OR PAKISTAN team would have done that not we India. SAD. GET UP BOYS AND WIN THE SERIES FOR US

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 31, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    My team for OT would be: Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Shami, Aaron and Pankaj

    As for every Indian fan, rival fans and cricket pundits saying England winning the series 3-1? LOL! No chance. Just an off day by India and they'll bounce back.

  • AntonDeck on July 31, 2014, 12:16 GMT

    On the bright side for Pankaj his figures improved in the second innings and he ended the game with his highest score batting in international cricket.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    in next match gautam gambhir & Ashwin is sure to come back in place of dhavan & rohit . ishant is in for pankaj singh .this line up becomes the best for india and im sure to next test in menchaster. and feel sorry for pankaj singh he should get another opportunity.

  • Rajitha_SL on July 31, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    how MS DONI selected over, shavag & Gambeer. pure selection from Indian. should have drop Doni & add Aswin

  • geminianrahul on July 31, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    Ashwin, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Gambhir/Binny, Dhoni, Jadeja, Bhuvi, Aaron, Pankaj. Indians have to improve a lot in the fielding department. Unless they hold on to their catches they can't win.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    Very right Mr. Infinitum , All went wrong with india, hats off to England.. what an come back by them and by cook. Cook's dish went right this time. Well for india rahane a great innings . Gambhir should be back and sehwag is needed

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    This is what all about India. the Indian cricket officials know about the strength of their players that is why they always mass up with other teams by using strong media and money, especially when they play against small teams like Bangladesh.

  • mjrvasu on July 31, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    Before the start today I predicted game will end before lunch, there it did. And I said England will win at least 1 of ther remaining 2 Tests and the series. MSD should call it a day after this series, as far as Tests are concerned. Indian team needs a complete wash and cleaning up.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 31, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    Firstly Congrats to England. They outplayed us from Day 1. A really poor performance by India. Bringing in 3.5 bowlers (Jadeja is not a wicket taking bowler and not Test standard) was a huge mistake. But what was really disappointing was the poor application by our batsman. Everyone got in and then got out, which is not good. Once you get in, then you have to go big.

    We first showed no respect to Ali and got out. Then took him serious and still got out. Our batsman overestimated his spin, but he did bowl good lines and lengths. Rahane was a good stand out for India though. Looks really composed.

    As for OT, India will need some huge thinking to do. I think Dhawan needs to step aside and allow Gambhir to come in, who is gutsy. Only problem is that he's just as susceptible outside off stump, but is more experienced. Ashwin has a poor overseas average of 74, but surely he needs to be given a go. Aaron has to definitely play as Ishant is still injured.

  • VinodGupte on July 31, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    ENG is back. Expect them to win the series. IND will persist with two-bit players such as dhawan, jadeja and nohit sharma only to lose both the remaining games.

    IND must try Rahane at # 3 and replace Jadeja with Ashwin. Replace Shami with any seamer available. drop sharma. drop dhawan. dhoni should bat after ashwin and b kumar.

  • pjt100585 on July 31, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Surely the 'part-time offspinner' tag can now be dropped. Just 'offspinner' from now on please.. Go the Mo!

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:10 GMT

    Should respect foe mooen ali don't call him part time bowler

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    How often do we see a captains performance raise the performance of the rest of the team. In this instance Cook scores runs at last and the rest of the team are motivated to perform.

  • ianbellfan on July 31, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    To me the only change needed is to bring in Ashwin. I do not subscribe to the idea of a spinner to restrict scoring. The best way to restrict scoring is by taking wickets. Jadeja is not a better spinner than Ashwin by any means. On the other hand, Ashwin is more than capable of scoring whatever Jadeja is making with the bat and also take wickets as an attacking spinner. Among Dhawan and Kohli, Dhawan is more worrying because of his static footwork when the ball is on a good length. Kohli will come good eventually. Shami deserves a rest and it will be a good idea to play Varun Aaron given that Old Trafford has always tested swing bowlers. Given Varun's pace, if he bowls a fuller length he will be a difficcult proposition at Old Trafford.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:03 GMT

    Amazing win by England, given that Robson, Woakes, and Jordan were just passengers, they won with just 8 players performing at or close to potential. England can replace those 3 and get even stronger. India have many problems--Shami can't buy a wicket, No 6 is not stable, Dhawan has not delivered, Jadeja is neither batsman nor bowler, and even their reliable greats Kohli and Pujara are only scraping by. I see Aaron and Ashwin in for Shami & Jadeja, Gambhir for Dhawan. Rohit gets another chance because there is no one else left.

  • RADhillon on July 31, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Well done by Moeen Ali and all the English batsmen and bowlers. outclassed india in all departments.

  • Cricketlover54 on July 31, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Eng are back in form. Will easily win 3-1 mark my words. We all support you Eng!!! Awesome to see you back in your feet.

  • sasisurineni on July 31, 2014, 12:00 GMT

    Great Match, Great Victory for England. Very good Bowling from Anderson and Moeen Ali.

  • Infinitum on July 31, 2014, 11:59 GMT

    Horrible spineless batting, not even looked close to last the final day. I predict 3-1 victory for England in this series.

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  • Infinitum on July 31, 2014, 11:59 GMT

    Horrible spineless batting, not even looked close to last the final day. I predict 3-1 victory for England in this series.

  • sasisurineni on July 31, 2014, 12:00 GMT

    Great Match, Great Victory for England. Very good Bowling from Anderson and Moeen Ali.

  • Cricketlover54 on July 31, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Eng are back in form. Will easily win 3-1 mark my words. We all support you Eng!!! Awesome to see you back in your feet.

  • RADhillon on July 31, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Well done by Moeen Ali and all the English batsmen and bowlers. outclassed india in all departments.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:03 GMT

    Amazing win by England, given that Robson, Woakes, and Jordan were just passengers, they won with just 8 players performing at or close to potential. England can replace those 3 and get even stronger. India have many problems--Shami can't buy a wicket, No 6 is not stable, Dhawan has not delivered, Jadeja is neither batsman nor bowler, and even their reliable greats Kohli and Pujara are only scraping by. I see Aaron and Ashwin in for Shami & Jadeja, Gambhir for Dhawan. Rohit gets another chance because there is no one else left.

  • ianbellfan on July 31, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    To me the only change needed is to bring in Ashwin. I do not subscribe to the idea of a spinner to restrict scoring. The best way to restrict scoring is by taking wickets. Jadeja is not a better spinner than Ashwin by any means. On the other hand, Ashwin is more than capable of scoring whatever Jadeja is making with the bat and also take wickets as an attacking spinner. Among Dhawan and Kohli, Dhawan is more worrying because of his static footwork when the ball is on a good length. Kohli will come good eventually. Shami deserves a rest and it will be a good idea to play Varun Aaron given that Old Trafford has always tested swing bowlers. Given Varun's pace, if he bowls a fuller length he will be a difficcult proposition at Old Trafford.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    How often do we see a captains performance raise the performance of the rest of the team. In this instance Cook scores runs at last and the rest of the team are motivated to perform.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:10 GMT

    Should respect foe mooen ali don't call him part time bowler

  • pjt100585 on July 31, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Surely the 'part-time offspinner' tag can now be dropped. Just 'offspinner' from now on please.. Go the Mo!

  • VinodGupte on July 31, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    ENG is back. Expect them to win the series. IND will persist with two-bit players such as dhawan, jadeja and nohit sharma only to lose both the remaining games.

    IND must try Rahane at # 3 and replace Jadeja with Ashwin. Replace Shami with any seamer available. drop sharma. drop dhawan. dhoni should bat after ashwin and b kumar.