England v Sri Lanka, 5th ODI, Old Trafford July 9, 2011

Six points to ponder for England

Team balance and the batting Powerplay are among the issues for England to deal with after the series win
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Alastair Cook will be a satisfied man tonight after he guided England to a 3-2 series victory over Sri Lanka and also claimed the Man-of-the-Series award for his 298 runs. It was a notable achievement to beat the World Cup finalists after being 2-1 down and it was a series full of debate about England's one-day game. Here we look at six key areas.

A balancing act

England were adamant throughout the series that they only needed five main bowling options with the occasional bit of Kevin Pietersen thrown in. The one change they made in the five matches was to replace Stuart Broad with Samit Patel and it felt as though, ideally, Alastair Cook needed one more reliable option to ease the pressure. It would help if Pietersen took his bowling more seriously, but having Ian Bell at No. 6 as a specialist batsman who likes to build an innings was a waste. Within this debate is the role of Jonathan Trott and whether England should be flexible with their batting order. Trott's 72 at Old Trafford suggested the current top order can evolve, but the jury is still out. It would have been nice to see Patel given that middle-order role - longer-term the selectors need to decide about him - and having that sixth bowling option could prove invaluable on the subcontinent.

Winning when it's not swinging

Tillakaratne Dilshan made a telling remark at the end of the series. "Today the conditions were more suitable for us but they played good cricket," he said. "They adjusted to conditions that they weren't used to so they are learning a bit about how they should play on flat wickets." Succeeding when the ball doesn't hoop around corners for James Anderson is a vital part of England's development and the win in Manchester was significant from that point of view. England did find swing, but of the reverse nature, while they fielded two spinners which showed good flexibility. The team will learn much more by winning with the sun on their backs.

The Powerplay issue

Batting in the Powerplays is still very much a work-in-progress for England although there were a few signs. Firstly in the way Alastair Cook and Craig Kieswetter are combining - their opening stand was vital at Old Trafford - and of some encouragingly open thinking from captain and coach. In the two matches where weather played a part - The Oval and Trent Bridge - the batting restrictions were taken early so that England could keep up their momentum. They tried the same tactic here, too, but the result was 14 for 3 so that one will have to be filed under 'could have gone better'. At Lord's they took it after 35 overs to try and utilise a harder ball and a developing partnership but without quite the desired results. At least, though, it is not being left to Anderson.

Keep those boundaries coming

This point can, partly, be connected to the Powerplay one above. There doesn't seem enough oomph in England's lower - well, really, below Eoin Morgan at No. 5 - and that needs to be rectified if England are to be a consistent force. Nothing kills momentum like a batting innings that dribbles to its conclusion rather than a late flurry of boundaries. In mitigation England have had to contend with Lasith Malinga, one of the finest death bowlers around, but he can only operate from one end. The seven players who have filled England's positions from No. 6 to No. 11 in the series hit eleven fours and a six from 282 balls. The likes of Samit Patel, Stuart Broad and Tim Bresnan are picked partly on the strength of their batting and that strength needs to come through more often.

In a spin

Although England won at Old Trafford to secure the series one of their long-term problems reared its head again: playing spin on a slower surface. Against the new ball they had no problem motoring along at more than six an over, but as the ball got older it became harder work and Suraj Randiv ended with 5 for 42. Trott and Morgan, however, showed the way with an excellent stand of 118 in 21 overs of sensible accumulation and that should be the blueprint for team-mates to follow. It doesn't all have to be about boundaries, but just five fours in the last 41 overs at Old Trafford shows there is still much work to do.

Which quicks

Anderson reaffirmed his credentials as England's leading all-round bowler in home conditions and Bresnan is an effective partner with the new ball. However, the situation over the pace bowlers is not entirely clear. Anderson may not always be the best choice in conditions which nullify his strengths such as India where England tour in October. Then there's the question of who is third seamer. Broad's dropping has shaken up the pecking order as he has been a go-to man in limited-overs for a number of years. Jade Dernbach, meanwhile, has shown impressive skills at the death. Then there's the squad bowlers who didn't get a game - Steven Finn and Chris Woakes - plus those back in county cricket such as Chris Tremlett, James Harris, Graham Onions and Ajmal Shazhad. Having plenty of options is never a bad thing, but picking the right ones can be tricky.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Finn92 on July 11, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    I was annoyed to see Kieswetter in the side over Davies as Davies hadn't done anything wrong to be dropped for but Craig has won me over and he should stick in the team for a while. My XI for the India series would be: Kieswetter, Cook, Trott/Bell, KP, Morgan, Patel, Bresnan, Swann, Shahzad, Anderson, Dernbach. Trott has an amazing ODI average but he and Bell can't really be in the same side and Bell should never play at 6 again in ODI's! Trott deserves to continue at 3 but if he slows up or loses form then Bell can come in. KP looks like he maay be back to his old self in Tests and in ODI's the same can't be far off but if not then James Taylor should come in. Patel deserves a run at big hitting all rounder slot as he has the batting talent to cement the spot, we have to have two spinners no matter the wicket in ODI's. Shahzad hasn't done a lot wrong and he should come in for Broad who really needs to be dropped for a few months to give him chance to start getting some form for Nott

  • on July 11, 2011, 9:43 GMT

    When was the last time India won a test series in Australia?

  • AjayVijayan on July 11, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    V Sehwag, G Gambhir, R Dravid, S Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, S Raina, MS Dhoni, H Singh, Z Khan, I Sharma, P Kumar/M Patel will be the likely and strong team to take on England. I think this bowling unit under Zaheer will be the toughest that England would have faced in this year. A Strauss, A Cook to Zaheer, J Trott I Bell to Harbhajan would be an ideal contest. For India everything wil depend on first 3, If sehwag fires then it wil b interesting, otherwise R Dravid will as always be the Wall that ENG have to break upon.

  • JustFan on July 11, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    England at home with no inspirational leader/innovating batsmen/bowler. I predict a 3-1 Indian victory. England all talk and bluster- Match words with action over a period, not just at home. Last time India won 1-0. India are slow starters, that is why we have a 3-1 scoreline. Bring on the poms- on the field- game on !!! That is not to say the English team is not good- JUST not good enough !!!!!!

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    I fancy England to win 3-1 (if wickets have pace & bounce in them) as indian batsman will struggle with the taller fast bowlers on pacy wickets, lets be fair with all the Indians batting averages are massively inflated by playing on poor flat pitches where everyone makes 500-600 1st innings, also you wouldnt swap the Indian bowling unit for the English bowling unit on a pitch with pacy and bounce

    on a side note a BIG fear is that the over rate (both teams) will be at 12-13 again and it will be a slow, i just hope that the overrate picks up and were not losing 10 overs a day to a poor overate

    the whole series depends on 1 thing, Will England produce wickets with pacy & bounce with the risk of test matches being over in 3or4 days?? or will we have 4 dead wickets, just so the counties can get the renvue from the 5 days???

  • denwarlo70 on July 10, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Congrats POMS, you were the better side yesterday. See you when we see you next.

  • yorkshire-86 on July 10, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    Why does Bell have a 'right' to be in the side? We already have too many accumulators in the side, and number 6 is certainly te position where you DONT want one. We already have 2 players of that style who are better then him (Cook and Trott), and we often have a tail that is capable with the bat to 9/10, so we should be looking at an impact player who can hit quick runs for the 6 position. Also, Samit Patel? Samit Patel? What on earth is he doing in the team? He is nowhere near good enough to play at this level and looked like a rabbit in headlights when batting. Rashid is far better and is one of the top bowlers in the CC this year. Jiggle Pietersen and Trott around depending on which of the openers is dismissed first. Take the powerplay when batsmen are set, not when the bowlers are in. Get one of these young big hitting players many people on here talk about at number 6, and Rashid at 7. Dump the dead wood - Patel, Bopara.

  • RohanMarkJay on July 10, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    This is one of the better performances in a ODI Series from an England side in years. The Flower-Strauss-Cook partnership with Graham Gooch as batting coach and advisor thrown in their behind the scenes to the England team seems to be doing wonders for English cricket at the moment. Bring on India should be a fascinating series. I hope England hammers India in the test and odi series. If for nothing else to keep the deluge of indian comments and others who always have a dig at English cricket silent. I am supporter of England in cricket I think they have great chance of toppling India this summer. England cricket team took care of Australia now go and beat India. GO ENGLAND CRICKET TEAM!

  • on July 10, 2011, 12:50 GMT

    england need a change in batting order - bell at 4 kp at 5 morgan at 6 or 7 if playing patel

  • anshu.s on July 10, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    Andrew is spot on with his assesment, but England can't have Cook,Trott,Bell playing together....replace them with J.Vince,Jos Butler and an allrounder like B.Stokes...this will give them much more firepower in Batting.

  • Finn92 on July 11, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    I was annoyed to see Kieswetter in the side over Davies as Davies hadn't done anything wrong to be dropped for but Craig has won me over and he should stick in the team for a while. My XI for the India series would be: Kieswetter, Cook, Trott/Bell, KP, Morgan, Patel, Bresnan, Swann, Shahzad, Anderson, Dernbach. Trott has an amazing ODI average but he and Bell can't really be in the same side and Bell should never play at 6 again in ODI's! Trott deserves to continue at 3 but if he slows up or loses form then Bell can come in. KP looks like he maay be back to his old self in Tests and in ODI's the same can't be far off but if not then James Taylor should come in. Patel deserves a run at big hitting all rounder slot as he has the batting talent to cement the spot, we have to have two spinners no matter the wicket in ODI's. Shahzad hasn't done a lot wrong and he should come in for Broad who really needs to be dropped for a few months to give him chance to start getting some form for Nott

  • on July 11, 2011, 9:43 GMT

    When was the last time India won a test series in Australia?

  • AjayVijayan on July 11, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    V Sehwag, G Gambhir, R Dravid, S Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, S Raina, MS Dhoni, H Singh, Z Khan, I Sharma, P Kumar/M Patel will be the likely and strong team to take on England. I think this bowling unit under Zaheer will be the toughest that England would have faced in this year. A Strauss, A Cook to Zaheer, J Trott I Bell to Harbhajan would be an ideal contest. For India everything wil depend on first 3, If sehwag fires then it wil b interesting, otherwise R Dravid will as always be the Wall that ENG have to break upon.

  • JustFan on July 11, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    England at home with no inspirational leader/innovating batsmen/bowler. I predict a 3-1 Indian victory. England all talk and bluster- Match words with action over a period, not just at home. Last time India won 1-0. India are slow starters, that is why we have a 3-1 scoreline. Bring on the poms- on the field- game on !!! That is not to say the English team is not good- JUST not good enough !!!!!!

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    I fancy England to win 3-1 (if wickets have pace & bounce in them) as indian batsman will struggle with the taller fast bowlers on pacy wickets, lets be fair with all the Indians batting averages are massively inflated by playing on poor flat pitches where everyone makes 500-600 1st innings, also you wouldnt swap the Indian bowling unit for the English bowling unit on a pitch with pacy and bounce

    on a side note a BIG fear is that the over rate (both teams) will be at 12-13 again and it will be a slow, i just hope that the overrate picks up and were not losing 10 overs a day to a poor overate

    the whole series depends on 1 thing, Will England produce wickets with pacy & bounce with the risk of test matches being over in 3or4 days?? or will we have 4 dead wickets, just so the counties can get the renvue from the 5 days???

  • denwarlo70 on July 10, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Congrats POMS, you were the better side yesterday. See you when we see you next.

  • yorkshire-86 on July 10, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    Why does Bell have a 'right' to be in the side? We already have too many accumulators in the side, and number 6 is certainly te position where you DONT want one. We already have 2 players of that style who are better then him (Cook and Trott), and we often have a tail that is capable with the bat to 9/10, so we should be looking at an impact player who can hit quick runs for the 6 position. Also, Samit Patel? Samit Patel? What on earth is he doing in the team? He is nowhere near good enough to play at this level and looked like a rabbit in headlights when batting. Rashid is far better and is one of the top bowlers in the CC this year. Jiggle Pietersen and Trott around depending on which of the openers is dismissed first. Take the powerplay when batsmen are set, not when the bowlers are in. Get one of these young big hitting players many people on here talk about at number 6, and Rashid at 7. Dump the dead wood - Patel, Bopara.

  • RohanMarkJay on July 10, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    This is one of the better performances in a ODI Series from an England side in years. The Flower-Strauss-Cook partnership with Graham Gooch as batting coach and advisor thrown in their behind the scenes to the England team seems to be doing wonders for English cricket at the moment. Bring on India should be a fascinating series. I hope England hammers India in the test and odi series. If for nothing else to keep the deluge of indian comments and others who always have a dig at English cricket silent. I am supporter of England in cricket I think they have great chance of toppling India this summer. England cricket team took care of Australia now go and beat India. GO ENGLAND CRICKET TEAM!

  • on July 10, 2011, 12:50 GMT

    england need a change in batting order - bell at 4 kp at 5 morgan at 6 or 7 if playing patel

  • anshu.s on July 10, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    Andrew is spot on with his assesment, but England can't have Cook,Trott,Bell playing together....replace them with J.Vince,Jos Butler and an allrounder like B.Stokes...this will give them much more firepower in Batting.

  • kaidranzer on July 10, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    England stand no chance in Tests. Even though there is a possibility of an English whitewash, there wont be any because the Indians hardly ever whitewash anyone. Most probably 2-0 or 1-0 in favor of India. In ODIs however, England may put up a rare good performance or as usual Indians may become complacent and lose a game or two. It should be 3-2 or 4-1 in India's favor. So all in all it seems that Indians will beat the English without breaking a lot of sweat.

  • on July 10, 2011, 11:44 GMT

    For all those fighting about India/England ODIs, the real test lies in, well, the "tests". It is going to be one heck of a series. I can't hardly wait for it to begin. Let's just hope that the English summer actually remains a "summer", and does not become a damp, cold summer. Let's have a series worth the hype! ODIs are merely the sweets after the main course has been served.

  • voma on July 10, 2011, 11:02 GMT

    I find it amusing that people are saying jade dernbach isnt good enough to play in odi s . Hes only played in 1 series ! , and yesterday won the game for England . With help from the ever reliable tim bresnan . Dropping stuart broad was the right move , he has really struggled since returning to the squad . It would be nice to see shahzad back in a England shirt . The core of the team , cook , kiesswetter , trott , morgan , swann , anderson , bresnan look good , just need to tinker with the other places . Well played England

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 10:40 GMT

    batting 5 or below rarely will anyone ever get a hundred you just dont get the chance, no matter who you are, so the 100's stat is unimportant, plus as Morgan said its not about getting 100 off 130-140 balls anymore that was fine when you need 230 was a par score 5 years ago but now with all the powerplays and better batting 300 is par most of the time, 60 off 50balls is better value for the team Bell is a quality batsman and deserves his space in the team and should be the floating batsman in the England line up and should come in if England lose a wicket in the first 10 overs so he can attack the powerplay

    Glad England finally managed to get a 2nd spinner in the team, but Rashid should be the man not Patel. we need the 5 main bowlers in the side to be able to take wickets & field, plus Rashid batting is plenty good enough to be batting in the lower order

    England need to start using Trott,Bell & KP for a few overs so we have more options in the future, like other world sides do

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 10, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    @5wombats: if our bowlers are soo good on flat indian pitches ( as u people call them), imagine how threatening they will be on your swinging conditions.. i guess your batting will be exposed greatly, just wait for Zak Sreesanth and reinvented Ishant to create havoc.. you will soon see, ready to eat ur words..

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 10:18 GMT

    Balancing Act Totally agree KP should be given overs, plus if he did it releases pressure off 5 main bowlers. I like Englands top 6 BUT i would just have Bell as a floater that comes in during powerplay Not Swinging Its time the batsmen stepped up and started scoring 300 more often in flat sunny pitches, England need to learn to attack the powerplays, 60-80 after 10 overs 4's & 6's late boundaries aint an issue Bresnan & Swann can bat, but Englands tactics should be making your low order to scoe 80 off 10 overs, top order need to use powerplays alot better, Spin England have to learn to do what all the world sides do and rotate the strike effectly at a 5 an over during the middle overs of spin and not losing wickets Bowling Im glad England finally got a better balance to there ODI attack of 3 seamers & 2 spins this should be on all pitches (like all top ODI teams) Anderson, Bresnann, Dernbach, Swann & Rashid these 5 are wicket takers and thats what is key ODI

  • Mcgrath-Dravid-Flintoff on July 10, 2011, 9:55 GMT

    England, get Collingwood back! Hes a really tough batsman and a useful bowler! And the best fielder in the world as of now! And oh, Get Flintoff back too if possible =)

  • CricketingStargazer on July 10, 2011, 8:20 GMT

    I tend to agree that, long-term, Jade Dernbach will not prove to be intenational class. He is a very good county player, but that´s it. That said, he has been a good pick fo this series and has added some variety to the attack. I was pleased that Stuart Broad has been dropped and hope that he stays out of the side for a while; the attack was much better balanced with Sambit Patel and is more able to cope with different conditions. The re-commissioning of Craig Kieswetter has been a success. He won´t come off every time, but he will always ensure momentum when he does. I am more concerned about the middle order. Fo a time England thrived with a "leave it to Eoin" plan, but sides are niow coming wise to Eoin Mogan and he is coming off less often. When Morgan had Paul Collingwood to partner him, there was a promise of some ooomph from the other end: sides don´t have to cope with that threat now and have tended to tie the middle order in runless knots.

  • 5wombats on July 10, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    @SulthanXI; I don't remember any cans of beans being opened in the World Cup - all I remember is Strauss smashing the woeful indian bowling all around the park. If anything was opened - it was the can of worms which is the indian bowling line up, who on that occasion were bowling at home. Bowling in England is a different proposition altogether and our bowlers are rather good at it.

  • stationmaster on July 10, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Well done Cooky ! Great job, we're very proud of you - long may you reign. I would like to see Shazad back in the side, glad Broad has gone, don;t miss his childish antics and poor performances. Please please please, no more Ian Bell, he's done nothing all series and looks so out of sorts it's painful to watch. No one day bowler minds seeing Ian Bell come to the crease ! Lets try someone else, and give them a really good run. Scoring one century in over 100 ODI appearances, would get your dropped form the Bangladesh side ! Lets move on from Ian Bell, he'l still be around to play test cricket, just like Straussy.

  • SulthanXI on July 10, 2011, 6:35 GMT

    Kevin Pieterson should come at no 5 as he started his career. Bell is wasted at 6. Now it is time to try something for England, may be allow Swann or Bresnan to do pinch hitting as a element of surprise for India. Else strong Indian team will finish open the English team like a can of beans. Test series will be really even. A good leg spinner like Kumble will be missed. Bhajji has to really bowl his heart out........

  • on July 10, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    Dernbach is not international material. Wait till the Indian tour.

  • drake.nazir on July 10, 2011, 5:35 GMT

    You can do all the "analysis" that you want, the Poms are going to be bashed anyway

  • aus_sore_losers on July 10, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    one good match on flat wicket and suddenly anderson is improved bowler?? he has much to learn yet, which i think indians will soon teach him.. WAIT AND WATCH

  • frommoonman on July 10, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    By the time World Champions finishes their Eng tour, this list will swell from Six to Sixteen ;)

  • landl47 on July 10, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    The right move was made by bringing in Patel, which gave the side much better balance, both bowling and (although it didn't show today) batting. However, England still need someone to fill the Collingwood role, batting #6 and bowling a few overs. If Patel can show good enough form with the bat, then maybe the side can carry a slightly weaker batsman who can bowl. Bopara and Wright are the most likely candidates at the moment, but it would be nice to see a genuine all-rounder emerge. Otherwise, England have looked reasonably good; the batsmen have all contributed and the bowling has been OK. Beating Sri Lanka shouldn't be dismissed lightly, this is one of the best one-day sides around, so it's a step up for England.

  • RhinoxRevenge on July 10, 2011, 4:13 GMT

    hey guys remember when pietersen used to play at No 5?! I think this could be the right team: 1)Cook 2)Kieswetter 3)trott 4)bell 5)pietersen 6)morgan 7)bresnan 8)broad 9)swann 10)anderson 11)dernbach/tremlett. Here morgan gets to come little later and finish the match better since he is the best (and maybe the only) finisher in the team, and when he playes at No 5 he usually gets out before the 40th or 45th overs!

  • on July 10, 2011, 4:11 GMT

    Testing conditions in England..........Hope Our Players do well............Good luck Gentlemen

  • vikram201088 on July 10, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    Team for England should be 1)Cook 2)Keiswetter 3) Bell 4) Trott 5)KP 6) Morgan 7) Bresnen 8) Swan 9)Dernbach 10)Andersen 11)Tremlett

  • QTS_ on July 10, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    In ODI's, allrounders provide a good bit of muscle. For England, Bresnan is doing that at the moment, with Broad and Swann occasionally contributing. However, Broad is capable of doing significantly better, so it is unwise to count him out entirely. At the same time, it is a good idea to let him rest and come back as a better bowler.

  • on July 10, 2011, 3:32 GMT

    Hi everyone. Well played England. India England series will be very interesting. Against this English side, Sachin, Shewag, Gambhir,Kohli, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Harbajan, Ishant, Praveen, and Munaf. We are in for a good series. Let us enjoy.

  • Sajeesh.M.S on July 10, 2011, 2:35 GMT

    Bring back Collingwood.. Although he is 35, I still believe that he can play until the next world cup. He will be good at No 6. He can play the big shots, he can play the anchor role if team is struggling, he can bowl 6-10 overs consistently. Nothing to say about his fielding.. And he is coming back to form, he has made a century and some other useful contributions just recently..

  • subbass on July 9, 2011, 23:36 GMT

    So having thought about it, my team to play India in the ODI's later this summer would be.

    1.Cook 2. K'wetter 3 Trott 4 KP 5 Morgan 6 Bell 7 Bresnan 8 Broad 9 Swann 10 Tremlett 11 Anderson

    I want Tremlett in for his ability to get steep bounce that is tough for Indians to play.

  • pom_don on July 9, 2011, 23:19 GMT

    Tigg.......why on earth would anyone in their right mind consider dropping Trott in any format of the game?

  • on July 9, 2011, 23:12 GMT

    1) Kieswetter 2) Cook 3/4) Trott/Pieterson (If Cook falls 1st put in Trott, if Kieswetter then Pieterson) 5) Morgan 6) Bopara (Who can bowl some Medium pace) 7) Bresnan 8) Swann 9) Broad 10) Dernbach/Tremlett/Shahzad/Patel (Depending on condition and form) 11) Anderson

    Bopara is perfect at 6. He has the skill to build an innings if needed or swing away if there's a big score on the board.

  • 5wombats on July 9, 2011, 22:39 GMT

    Good analysis - not much to argue with. One thing that has been missed is the context - the Big Picture. Before 2008 England ODI was a bit of joke, and from then until that silly pointless series with Australia back in Jan/Feb 2011 I felt on balance that England were making progress because the right players were in the right positions and doing their jobs successfully more often. Stupid scheduling, injuries and fatigue meant Eng lost that series badly and were in no fit state to compete in the WC. So, the Big Picture; could England bounce back and were the changes made to personnel effective, against WC finalists - a good side. Answers have to be Yes and Yes. It still isn't right - the Powerplay fiascos, timid batting and ordinary bowling in games 2 & 3 show this. But IMO England have restored forward momentum and along the way have discovered Captain Cook - a worthy man-of-the-series. Good to watch - the most interesting time for England ODI in years.

  • Tigg on July 9, 2011, 22:32 GMT

    A good start for Captain Cook but Englands batting lineup is an issue. Either Bell or Trott need to make way (barring the dropping of Pieterson on form issues).

    My XI/Squad would be Kieswetter, Cook*, Bell/Trott/Pieterson (pick two), Morgan, Patel/Bopara/Wright (dependent on an extra pace (Wright) dobble (Bopara) or extra spinner (Patel) needed and form), Bresnan, Swann, Broad/Shahzad, Anderson, Dernbach.

    Anotehr option would be to open with Bell and play Kieswetter at 6, although breaking a promising opening partnership would be far from ideal.

  • subbass on July 9, 2011, 22:01 GMT

    Yes biggest issues for me are what to do with Bell ? To me too good a player not to be in the team, but where do we fit him in ? Or should we just pigeon hole him as a Test player only, and get another all rounder at number 6, perhaps Patel there and broad at number 7 ? Also I would like to see Tremlett in instead of Dernbach, who for me is more one for the future than right now.

  • satpal_singh72 on July 9, 2011, 21:53 GMT

    Broad dropping is a good thing - he needs to look at himself and stop mopping around like he owns the place! His bowling needs to step up a gear - Dernbach is good - obviously a lot to learn but should form the new England line up in years to come. Have to agree - Bell at 6 is dumb....Samit or Bopara would be useful there and I think the ECB should award a prize money for any one who hits the most boundaries in the England team as that might just kick them up the backside and get those cheerleaders moving more....!

  • on July 9, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    Well played England, a good performance and plenty to work on. Some good points made, there is always the option of playing Bell/Pieterson at 3/4 and playing Trott later depending on the situation? I would also consider Shahzad as the 3rd seamer who can hit the ball later in the innings? My 11 would be 1)Kieswetter 2)Cook 3)Bell 4)Pieterson 5)Morgan 6)Trott 7)Swann 8)Bresnan 9)Shahzad 10)Tremlett 11)Anderson. It would be nice to see a little flexibility regarding the batting order.

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  • on July 9, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    Well played England, a good performance and plenty to work on. Some good points made, there is always the option of playing Bell/Pieterson at 3/4 and playing Trott later depending on the situation? I would also consider Shahzad as the 3rd seamer who can hit the ball later in the innings? My 11 would be 1)Kieswetter 2)Cook 3)Bell 4)Pieterson 5)Morgan 6)Trott 7)Swann 8)Bresnan 9)Shahzad 10)Tremlett 11)Anderson. It would be nice to see a little flexibility regarding the batting order.

  • satpal_singh72 on July 9, 2011, 21:53 GMT

    Broad dropping is a good thing - he needs to look at himself and stop mopping around like he owns the place! His bowling needs to step up a gear - Dernbach is good - obviously a lot to learn but should form the new England line up in years to come. Have to agree - Bell at 6 is dumb....Samit or Bopara would be useful there and I think the ECB should award a prize money for any one who hits the most boundaries in the England team as that might just kick them up the backside and get those cheerleaders moving more....!

  • subbass on July 9, 2011, 22:01 GMT

    Yes biggest issues for me are what to do with Bell ? To me too good a player not to be in the team, but where do we fit him in ? Or should we just pigeon hole him as a Test player only, and get another all rounder at number 6, perhaps Patel there and broad at number 7 ? Also I would like to see Tremlett in instead of Dernbach, who for me is more one for the future than right now.

  • Tigg on July 9, 2011, 22:32 GMT

    A good start for Captain Cook but Englands batting lineup is an issue. Either Bell or Trott need to make way (barring the dropping of Pieterson on form issues).

    My XI/Squad would be Kieswetter, Cook*, Bell/Trott/Pieterson (pick two), Morgan, Patel/Bopara/Wright (dependent on an extra pace (Wright) dobble (Bopara) or extra spinner (Patel) needed and form), Bresnan, Swann, Broad/Shahzad, Anderson, Dernbach.

    Anotehr option would be to open with Bell and play Kieswetter at 6, although breaking a promising opening partnership would be far from ideal.

  • 5wombats on July 9, 2011, 22:39 GMT

    Good analysis - not much to argue with. One thing that has been missed is the context - the Big Picture. Before 2008 England ODI was a bit of joke, and from then until that silly pointless series with Australia back in Jan/Feb 2011 I felt on balance that England were making progress because the right players were in the right positions and doing their jobs successfully more often. Stupid scheduling, injuries and fatigue meant Eng lost that series badly and were in no fit state to compete in the WC. So, the Big Picture; could England bounce back and were the changes made to personnel effective, against WC finalists - a good side. Answers have to be Yes and Yes. It still isn't right - the Powerplay fiascos, timid batting and ordinary bowling in games 2 & 3 show this. But IMO England have restored forward momentum and along the way have discovered Captain Cook - a worthy man-of-the-series. Good to watch - the most interesting time for England ODI in years.

  • on July 9, 2011, 23:12 GMT

    1) Kieswetter 2) Cook 3/4) Trott/Pieterson (If Cook falls 1st put in Trott, if Kieswetter then Pieterson) 5) Morgan 6) Bopara (Who can bowl some Medium pace) 7) Bresnan 8) Swann 9) Broad 10) Dernbach/Tremlett/Shahzad/Patel (Depending on condition and form) 11) Anderson

    Bopara is perfect at 6. He has the skill to build an innings if needed or swing away if there's a big score on the board.

  • pom_don on July 9, 2011, 23:19 GMT

    Tigg.......why on earth would anyone in their right mind consider dropping Trott in any format of the game?

  • subbass on July 9, 2011, 23:36 GMT

    So having thought about it, my team to play India in the ODI's later this summer would be.

    1.Cook 2. K'wetter 3 Trott 4 KP 5 Morgan 6 Bell 7 Bresnan 8 Broad 9 Swann 10 Tremlett 11 Anderson

    I want Tremlett in for his ability to get steep bounce that is tough for Indians to play.

  • Sajeesh.M.S on July 10, 2011, 2:35 GMT

    Bring back Collingwood.. Although he is 35, I still believe that he can play until the next world cup. He will be good at No 6. He can play the big shots, he can play the anchor role if team is struggling, he can bowl 6-10 overs consistently. Nothing to say about his fielding.. And he is coming back to form, he has made a century and some other useful contributions just recently..

  • on July 10, 2011, 3:32 GMT

    Hi everyone. Well played England. India England series will be very interesting. Against this English side, Sachin, Shewag, Gambhir,Kohli, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Harbajan, Ishant, Praveen, and Munaf. We are in for a good series. Let us enjoy.