New Zealand in India 2012-13 August 6, 2012

Injured Vettori unlikely to make India tour

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Daniel Vettori is unlikely to make the upcoming India tour due to a groin strain. The injury had kept him out of New Zealand's second Test against West Indies last week as well. Vettori has been New Zealand's lead Test spinner for over a decade and would have been a key member of the attack in the India series.

"'[There's] a 90% chance that he won't be there," Ross Taylor, the New Zealand captain, said. "So we've got to look forward to seeing how the next spinner gets on over there." New Zealand are yet to announce their squad for the series, but the frontrunner to take Vettori's place is legspinner Tarun Nethula, who had been the second slow bowler on the recent West Indies tour.

The India series starts on August 23, with the first of two Tests. There are also two Twenty20s lined up. New Zealand have just completed a difficult tour of the Caribbean, where they were comprehensively beaten in all three formats.

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  • on August 6, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    Every batsman in the world is a flat-track bully. There are no exceptions. Almost all batsmen have scored their career best against India, whose attack is weak, or on home grounds or on flat pitches or weak bowling. Once in a while, someone plays well on a tough track against GREAT bowling, like KP did in Test 2 or Dravid against England last year or Michael Clarke against SA last year. With SRT, go back to the last time India toured SA. Hussey against England in Brisbane. Ponting? Turn the clock back at least 4 years. Such performnaces are rare. Lara, for all his greatness, very rarely scored on tough tracks against quality bowling. Amla? When? Kallis? Bell? Mahela? Sangakarra? They all cash in when the bowling is poor and the track insipid.

  • on August 6, 2012, 20:40 GMT

    According to great scholars in this forum, Teams like NZ, WI, Bangladesh, etc should play games against the weak teams only. If they play against stronger teams, it's a waste and boring series. How are the teams gonna build themselves then?? I never heard ICC creating divisions or leagues basing on rankings and ordered teams to play opponents of the same strength...

  • masks on August 6, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    @ xollile jeez mate how smart you are.The indian batsmen always make merry on the flat tracks, but the visiting team dont seem to find the tracks very flat. Look at Ponting's record in India. Not very flat were they, the tracks I mean.

  • _IndianCricketFan on August 6, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    All those saying the Indians will have a chance to get their averages up on flat tracks, if the tracks are so flat and easy to bat on, the NZ players will have a chance to inflate their averages as well. Its stupid to say Indians only bat well on flat tracks when the opposition has the same track to bat on (ie Indians have no unfair advantage, if its so easy, the opposition can do it as well).

  • sumit176 on August 6, 2012, 17:13 GMT

    well new zealand is doing great in rugby and hockey,,,,cricket seems to have taken a backseat there...anyways hope new zealand revives its cricket soon as they have likeable players and their relation with india is also quite friendly

  • on August 6, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    well guys its part of the game, if we have to play 8 games away and drop our rankings, we need as many tests we can get to play at home to bring it up. India will aim to destroy Nzland at home, and built records, they need to aim to beat eng as well, if they are going to get back to being number 1 test team.

  • BellCurve on August 6, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    The Indian batsmen will have yet another opportunity to inflate their allready inflated flat-track averages.

  • on August 6, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    This New Zealand tour is going to be most vivid and grotesque irony of Modern Day Cricket. Power balance is the best summary behind the scheduling of this series. I mean this is before September. How often do we see Test Cricket in India before September. On the other hand we Indian Cricket fans can not forget the thrashing by England and Australia. To us performances in Overseas, especially performances outside subcontinent are of great worth. With the regular influx of Money and power in the game, there are not enough awe inspiring performances. Even if there are they seem to be reserved for T20s and at last both Tendulkar and Laxman playing this series.

  • on August 6, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    @Satanwish. It was 89.67%. He just rounded it off to 90%. Not sure, whether he did it or Taylor!

  • on August 6, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    then they should cancel the nz tour....instead we can better call bangladesh !!

  • on August 6, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    Every batsman in the world is a flat-track bully. There are no exceptions. Almost all batsmen have scored their career best against India, whose attack is weak, or on home grounds or on flat pitches or weak bowling. Once in a while, someone plays well on a tough track against GREAT bowling, like KP did in Test 2 or Dravid against England last year or Michael Clarke against SA last year. With SRT, go back to the last time India toured SA. Hussey against England in Brisbane. Ponting? Turn the clock back at least 4 years. Such performnaces are rare. Lara, for all his greatness, very rarely scored on tough tracks against quality bowling. Amla? When? Kallis? Bell? Mahela? Sangakarra? They all cash in when the bowling is poor and the track insipid.

  • on August 6, 2012, 20:40 GMT

    According to great scholars in this forum, Teams like NZ, WI, Bangladesh, etc should play games against the weak teams only. If they play against stronger teams, it's a waste and boring series. How are the teams gonna build themselves then?? I never heard ICC creating divisions or leagues basing on rankings and ordered teams to play opponents of the same strength...

  • masks on August 6, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    @ xollile jeez mate how smart you are.The indian batsmen always make merry on the flat tracks, but the visiting team dont seem to find the tracks very flat. Look at Ponting's record in India. Not very flat were they, the tracks I mean.

  • _IndianCricketFan on August 6, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    All those saying the Indians will have a chance to get their averages up on flat tracks, if the tracks are so flat and easy to bat on, the NZ players will have a chance to inflate their averages as well. Its stupid to say Indians only bat well on flat tracks when the opposition has the same track to bat on (ie Indians have no unfair advantage, if its so easy, the opposition can do it as well).

  • sumit176 on August 6, 2012, 17:13 GMT

    well new zealand is doing great in rugby and hockey,,,,cricket seems to have taken a backseat there...anyways hope new zealand revives its cricket soon as they have likeable players and their relation with india is also quite friendly

  • on August 6, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    well guys its part of the game, if we have to play 8 games away and drop our rankings, we need as many tests we can get to play at home to bring it up. India will aim to destroy Nzland at home, and built records, they need to aim to beat eng as well, if they are going to get back to being number 1 test team.

  • BellCurve on August 6, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    The Indian batsmen will have yet another opportunity to inflate their allready inflated flat-track averages.

  • on August 6, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    This New Zealand tour is going to be most vivid and grotesque irony of Modern Day Cricket. Power balance is the best summary behind the scheduling of this series. I mean this is before September. How often do we see Test Cricket in India before September. On the other hand we Indian Cricket fans can not forget the thrashing by England and Australia. To us performances in Overseas, especially performances outside subcontinent are of great worth. With the regular influx of Money and power in the game, there are not enough awe inspiring performances. Even if there are they seem to be reserved for T20s and at last both Tendulkar and Laxman playing this series.

  • on August 6, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    @Satanwish. It was 89.67%. He just rounded it off to 90%. Not sure, whether he did it or Taylor!

  • on August 6, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    then they should cancel the nz tour....instead we can better call bangladesh !!

  • Porky_PigTheToon on August 6, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    @ Pras_Punter: Congratulations, U just cracked a joke. U want no team to tour India ? lol ( Well every team wants to tour India from higher-ranked to lower ;-) )Anyway, we are witnessing how World No. 1 Team that plays on Green Pitches getting thrashed in sub-continent as well as their own Green Pitches that too in their own backyard. ;) Australia, SA and England (all higher ranked teams) toured India but couldn't beat us. So your point nullified that India invites only lower-ranked teams. Next time come up with something sensible.

  • on August 6, 2012, 14:16 GMT

    In Tests, NZ batsmen will have to bat really well against Indian spinners otherwise this series is going to be boring. Last time, NZ toured India, they performed well, Not only with but ball too. It was Harbhajan who saved India twice with his bat. I expect same fight from NZ again. And this will be the first time India will bat with No Dravid. OMG ! How would it look like ! So Kohli's temperament will be tested. Lets see how he and other No. 6 batsman (either Pujara or Raina or even Tiwary) perform. In bowling, Zak and Ashwin have been our 2 dependable bowlers and they would be the same. Umesh Yadav and Ojha could be other two. But on flat and slow tracks I would prefer Praveen Kumar (if he is fit) over Umesh as PK swings the ball both ways be it fast track or Flat. But the real fun will come in T-20s. Btw, Will Ryder come ? He is an entertainer :P

  • Tokai69 on August 6, 2012, 14:05 GMT

    Time to augment Ind's ICC ranking. Probably cricket is the only game in modern era, where outcome of the game could be tweaked turning pitch that will favor the home teams. So, No 1 ranking not necessarily mean the best team in the world, rather how efficiently the team can exploit it!

  • on August 6, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    @ IdreesTanoli: So NZ should not tour India ? Or U meant that NZ should play only lower-ranked teams ? Or have you assumed that Ind would surely win, so lets troll Indian fans ? You are surely not a well wisher of NZ team. With T-20 WC coming soon, it would really be a good experience for NZ players (especially batsmen) to get use to sub-continent Spinning Pitches. And FYI, the team that ranks lower doesn't help other higher ranked team much even if latter white-washes them.

  • muski on August 6, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    What a waste of time- we are going to see empty stadiums yet again. Who are going to get benefitted by it. Yeah- Sehwag and Dhoni can sing about the treatment they are going to give NZ. Indian batsmen can increase their already inflated averages. NZ narrowly missed getting whitewashed by Sammy and Co. Cannnot think of a different result here. Even though public memory is too short, its naive of BCCI to think that the true Indian cricket fan will forget the drubbing we got in Eng and Aus and revel in the trashing that we are going to give the happless Kiwis.

  • boycottsmum on August 6, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    @ Pras_Punter - Get the Lankans for an ODI series? FYI - India toured SL and not get the Lankans for an ODI series and we just saw a decent Pak team beaten 3-1 in the ODI series. And if you think beating a lower ranked team at home is going give you more points, you're mistaken again - that's not how the points system works.. but guys like you don't let facts cloud your opinion, do you?

    what would be interesting to know is if Vettori would play as a pure batsman, as he has proven to be a doughty customer in the past in Indian conditions.. i quite liked the 4 pronged pace attack that played in the 2nd test and they might prove a handful in Hyderabad and Bangalore.

  • on August 6, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    I can understand, why two T-20 matches...T-20 world cup is coming up, that too in SL whose conditions are similar to that of India. But, why only 2 test matches? 2-Test series do not make any sense! Minimum 3 tests are required, especially when oversea teams tour without any preparatory matches. Poor NZ; they just finishes a 2-test series. Now, forced to jump into another one...Greedy administrators, or poor international scheduling, or both. But, who cares for the players who run around all over the world, like trained monkeys being used by their owners in the streets of India. What a shame! Both for test cricket and test cricketers!

  • SnowSnake on August 6, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Vettori is the best crisis manager for NZ. NZ will not be same without him.

  • on August 6, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    Vettori is pretty much over rated..he wouldnt have been useful either

  • Witty_Cricketer on August 6, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    I believe New Zealand will miss Vettori the batsman more than the Vettori the bowler, he is simply not as good a test bowler as he is made out to be. If it was Bangladesh he would have some how made it.

  • satanswish on August 6, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    Would like to know how Vettori calculated this 90% thing?

  • satish619chandar on August 6, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    I would rather consider Kane as the best spinner of NZ.. His bowling was very good.. Kane with Nethula and Jeets as backup spinner would be a decent combo.. Playing in somewhat batting familiar tracks might bring some confidence to now under flak NZ batters..

  • on August 6, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    Why on earth is new zealand going to india yet again?

  • on August 6, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    @IdreesTanoli...Well not really! I mean how can playing at home where India is dominant and winning against a team right at the bottom can increase rating points that much? If that's the case then maybe the ICC Rankings are flawed.

  • on August 6, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    Indeed Jeetan Patel should be brought in.

    Guptill, Flynn, McCullum, Taylor, Williamson, Watling, Boult, Bracewell, Patel, Nathula, Southee

    Yes - short 1 batsman, but that batsman wouldn't score any runs anyway so may as well pick an extra bowler as that is what we will be doing for 80% of the Tests.

    Hoping Boult is the next Hadlee so give him the #7 spot.

  • Hardy1 on August 6, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    IdreesTanoli, so are you suggesting that the weaker teams shouldn't have a chance of playing against the stronger teams? It's New Zealand's turn to tour India, don't see how that's India's fault...

  • Min2_cric on August 6, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    m waiting to see india vs england in ahmedabad n see india gettin thrashed...

  • PrasPunter on August 6, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    @IdreesTanoli - couldnt agree more on your assertion. I shall let you know a pattern the indian team generally follows - tour abroad , get beaten to pulp , come back and give a thought - got it !! get the lankans for an ODI series and beat them to prop up their averages. Now get another weak team like the NZ, beat them again and up goes the so-called ranking. Looks way too easy, isn't it ? Cricinfo, please publish.

  • alltimegreat on August 6, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    I still remember NZ team touring India, why do they need to come back again?? What a boring season coming up!!

  • Meety on August 6, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    @IdreesTanoli - superficialy yes, but NZ gave India a hard time the last time they played, with a few NzLDers playing in the IPL, they may do well.

  • StoneRose on August 6, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    Jeetan Patel has done very well for Warwickshire

  • IdreesTanoli on August 6, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    This tour is nothing but just for improving ranking of indian team in tests and T20s.. Completely one sided matches coming soon..

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  • IdreesTanoli on August 6, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    This tour is nothing but just for improving ranking of indian team in tests and T20s.. Completely one sided matches coming soon..

  • StoneRose on August 6, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    Jeetan Patel has done very well for Warwickshire

  • Meety on August 6, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    @IdreesTanoli - superficialy yes, but NZ gave India a hard time the last time they played, with a few NzLDers playing in the IPL, they may do well.

  • alltimegreat on August 6, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    I still remember NZ team touring India, why do they need to come back again?? What a boring season coming up!!

  • PrasPunter on August 6, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    @IdreesTanoli - couldnt agree more on your assertion. I shall let you know a pattern the indian team generally follows - tour abroad , get beaten to pulp , come back and give a thought - got it !! get the lankans for an ODI series and beat them to prop up their averages. Now get another weak team like the NZ, beat them again and up goes the so-called ranking. Looks way too easy, isn't it ? Cricinfo, please publish.

  • Min2_cric on August 6, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    m waiting to see india vs england in ahmedabad n see india gettin thrashed...

  • Hardy1 on August 6, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    IdreesTanoli, so are you suggesting that the weaker teams shouldn't have a chance of playing against the stronger teams? It's New Zealand's turn to tour India, don't see how that's India's fault...

  • on August 6, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    Indeed Jeetan Patel should be brought in.

    Guptill, Flynn, McCullum, Taylor, Williamson, Watling, Boult, Bracewell, Patel, Nathula, Southee

    Yes - short 1 batsman, but that batsman wouldn't score any runs anyway so may as well pick an extra bowler as that is what we will be doing for 80% of the Tests.

    Hoping Boult is the next Hadlee so give him the #7 spot.

  • on August 6, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    @IdreesTanoli...Well not really! I mean how can playing at home where India is dominant and winning against a team right at the bottom can increase rating points that much? If that's the case then maybe the ICC Rankings are flawed.

  • on August 6, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    Why on earth is new zealand going to india yet again?