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September 13, 2012

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Praveen Kumar got on the honours board with a five-for, England v India, 1st Test, Lord's, 2nd day, July 22, 2011
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Praveen Kumar, the India medium pacer, has revealed his frustration at being sidelined by the national selectors despite having recovered from injury. Praveen was also not picked in the Rest of India (ROI) squad for the first-class Irani Cup match, the curtain-raiser for the domestic season, which will be played from September 21 to 25 in Bangalore.

"I was hoping to get a call for the New Zealand series but that didn't happen. I was a bit disappointed not to find a place in the ROI side too," Praveen told the Indian Express. "At the moment I'm looking forward to the Challenger Trophy [the domestic one-day tournament featuring India's best limited-overs players], as it will be the only competitive cricket for me.

"Sometimes I sit and wonder about why I'm not there in the Indian side. It's frustrating to be sidelined."

Praveen had had a fine 2011, picking up six wickets on Test debut against West Indies in Jamaica in June, and going on to take 27 from six matches at 25.81; he was one of the few positives for India on the dismal tour of England, with 15 wickets in three Tests. However, a chest injury kept him out of the Test series in Australia in December-January, and he wasn't able to replicate his pre-injury form in the limited-overs series that followed: the Commonwealth Bank Series, the Asia Cup and the IPL.

The chest injury was not the only one Praveen suffered last year: he had missed the World Cup with a tennis elbow, and didn't play the final Test in the England series because of pain in his left ankle.

"I had a good time in the West Indies and England, and then injuries halted my progress. Injury is in nobody's hands," Praveen said. "When I'm on the field, I always try to give 200%. And when you do that, you can get injured."

He will play for India B in the revamped Challenger Trophy, which begins on September 29 in Rajkot.

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Posted by neerajprasher on (September 16, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

what u guys talkin bout he is not good anymore didnt get any wickets in first 9 games ipl.u think he deserves to be in team.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

@ Ankur Sengupta :: And Ishant Sharma can get into the team while the returns are very poor from Ishant.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 19:18 GMT)

Mr. Praveen Kumar, you cannot expect to be picked the moment you recover from injury. You need match practice and prove yourself once again if you wish to get selected. At the moment, the Indian bowling line up is doing pretty well, thanks to Irfan Pathan and Ashwin. So it won't be easy for Praveen to make a comeback.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

Praveen should be playing for India....I dont know why is he being not selected..had to understand.

Posted by abhiyog on (September 14, 2012, 16:33 GMT)

praveen, u will come back strongly...

Posted by Romenevans on (September 14, 2012, 15:19 GMT)

"Had good time" what about the full tosses you bowled to Bangladeshi Batsmen in Asia cup and we couldn't make it to the finals??? Huh Praveen?

Posted by Romenevans on (September 14, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

Stop bowling full tosses and generate some pace....You were a part of a mediocre bowling attack as we all know...and mediocre players don't last for long.

Posted by maddy20 on (September 14, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

@Ashok Bambi His place was taken by Irfan who not only bowls well but also bats. In subcontinental conditions, we usually play 2 fast/medium pacers and 2 spinners. Post injury he brought about his own downfall with dismal performances in CB series and Asia Cup(where he had to prove his worth in the absence of Yadav and Zaheer) hence no place for him in international tours. They should have allowed him to tour NZ with the A side and play the Challenger Trophy though.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

PK did very well on the tour of West Indies and England. Dhoni was vey cofident about his bowling abilities and infact over bowled him duing the test matches.He also proved his worth in the Indian conditions but injury prevented his path of success.He got fully recovered from the injuries and took part in the last IPL with not much success or rather failure.Thereafter he was simply thrown out of the Indian team without given any proper chance.Merely because of his failure in IPL does not mean that he has lost the touch and forget the art of swing bowling.Infact swing bowling is more affective than medium pace bowling .To be honest praveen should have been included in the series against New Zealand and also for 20-20 world cup.In the present cercumstances he has to start as a fresher as there is no any other way

Posted by Thyagu5432 on (September 14, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

I think Praveen is one of a type. We do not have anybody quite like him now (or not even in the past). He is an exciting swing bowler swinging even in Indian conditions. He can trouble the best of batsman even at his pace. He deserves to get back to the Indian test side, may be, at Umesh Yadav's expense. Irfan has a fantastic record in ODIs and hence Praveen may find it difficult to get into ODI team, especially because of his lack of batting skills, he is a typical Muralidharan like tailender. But any day I would watch Praveen bowl compared to those who run at 50 miles an hour speed and bowl at 90 miles an hour.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

Praveen is a good option... I think India needs some really good bowlers Pool. hope MRF foundation creates the pool now. Since, Glenn McGrath has taken up the responsibilities of MRF foundation! I have lot of respect for McGrath!

Posted by veerakannadiga on (September 14, 2012, 9:56 GMT)

I firmly believe that the selectors and the team management know their onions.They have given us great joy with cricketing glories. We should back their judgement. They obviously follow the " horses for courses" policy, which I feel is the right way to do things. Meanwhile PK should concentrate on his honing his skills in whatever opportunity he gets. His time will come.God Bless Us All. AMEN.

Posted by mysecretme on (September 14, 2012, 9:41 GMT)

India can not carry two 120 kph bowlers. Irfan is a better bowler than him(check stats), he is a better batsman too. No wonder Praveen is out of the side. The only way back for him is to become a better bowler and batsman than Irfan or increase his pace by 15k at least.

Posted by akshay_gambhir on (September 14, 2012, 9:22 GMT)

@sweetspot : Agreed, he can't just walk into the team after injury, after all he didn't have cancer and he isn't Yuvraj Singh (no disrespect to the man, but we've set a bad precedent there). But having played for India for the whole of last year, he deserves ATLEAST an INDIA A spot, or even a Rest of India spot. The selectors are basically saying that he's not in the top bowlers in the country at the moment - he was spear-heading the attack against Eng last year, and after a few injuries he went that bad?! Hard to digest. And if the requirement is to prove form and fitness after injury, why was Ishant Sharma awarded a test squad spot against NZ?! One has to admit that the selectors haven't been judicious with him.

Posted by 777aditya on (September 14, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

Irfan, Balaji, and Praveen, though similar, were the safest bets in SL - wonder if age is playing a role here and Zaheer might bid adieu after a last hoorah. Praveen will get his chances, but he needs to prove himself first - after all, everyone is not Rohit Sharma and take their place in the side for granted!

Posted by sourav619 on (September 14, 2012, 8:32 GMT)

its a matter of time again we will see praveen back in action ,fast bowling spot is not a guaranteed position in cricket,fast bowlers frequently gets injured and if you look at the past series india has played in almost every series there has been change of faces in fast bowling dept.:-in WC we had nehra,patel,khan,sreesanth,in WI ishant was there,in ENG rp came since zaheer was injured vinay kumar in ODIs, aaron and yadav during home series against WI and ENG,patan made a comback..so in that case u never know someone might get injured and he will be back, he should concentrate in challenger trophy it will be good window 4 him.

Posted by Narbavi on (September 14, 2012, 8:17 GMT)

@sony_sr: Are u sure?? there were a lot of us who were perplexed when he was dropped in the first place, who cares about the pace as long as he delivers for the team which he has whenever given a chance!!

Posted by lokeshguts on (September 14, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

Its unfair not getting selected..... But Hope for the best....!!! Even he can do something with the bat too.....

Posted by lokeshguts on (September 14, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

Its unfair not getting selected..... But Hope for the best....!!! Even he can do something with the bat too.....

Posted by usernames on (September 14, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

Well, he knows why he isn't there. In England--and other countries where the ball swings--he can bowl really well at the start. He has good control over swing even though he lacks pace. In the subcontinent conditions though, at 125kph, with his fielding being sluggish and batting abilities virtually non-existent; he is a liability.

He can easily be a part of the Indian team if he can increase his pace by about 10kph; that makes him much better than Ishant, not that he is any worse right now. I do think though that he should have been a part of the New Zealand tour with the A team. That would have helped to gauge his form and if we play in conditions that suit swing, he can be drafted in.

Think of Pathan: a bowler in the same mould, same speed, but he can bat much better and is a much better fielder as well. Overall, he is much more of an asset to the team compared to Praveen. Even in England, Praveen bowled well at the start and wasn't nearly as good when the sun was out.

Posted by sweetspot on (September 14, 2012, 7:53 GMT)

In other words, the selectors, captain and decision makers who got India the world cup are wrong, but a lot of you people are right? There are only 15 places in the Indian team. Once you go out due to whatever reason, it is not automatic that you return. But your turn will come, and likewise Praveen needs to be patient. Every bowler mentioned has some performance or the other that is impressive at some level or the other. Let's leave the finer judgments to the experts please.

Posted by Naresh28 on (September 14, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

We need bowlers who can bowl faster. 120-125kph is not going to help us. This has been the case for a while now and hence we get mocked by other teams. If our pace bowlers operate in the 140-145kph region it is still okay. I find it ridiculous that India cant find this with the population we have. I see great wrestlers who are so fit like "JINDER MAHAL" why cant we look for right calibre and then train them? Another is javelin thrower ATUL SHARMA.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 7:30 GMT)

bowler like pk and munaf are really lazy and they are not suitable guy for team india.wwe are bored when they r bowling and feilding...selectors are doing good job for thease guys

Posted by satz27 on (September 14, 2012, 7:10 GMT)

He was swinging a lot, Who also swinged both the sides. But unfortunately his recent form doesn't seems good. Even Umesh Yadav seem to be out of form. There's no surprise Praveen didn't pick in the team.

Posted by aravabalaji on (September 14, 2012, 7:05 GMT)

For swing bowling, maintaining line & length is the key and pace do not matter much. Sultan of swing, Sarfraz Nawaz and our own Manoj Prabhakar do not have great pace but were effective with their wily skills. Praveen Kumar belongs to that category. He had been effective too. To my knowledge, he is the only swing bowler available for India at the moment. It is really baffling that performers like him are being treated this way.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

Swing at his speed can easily be read by good international batsmen, and middle the ball reasonably well. And, defend, or hit it if the line & length looks suitable for hitting. In the gloomy cold and often cloudy English conditions, his trade may work. There, even at the same speed, the extent of swing varies. And visibility is also not as good as else where, since sun hides behind the clouds most of the time. Check his performance in England, when the sun is out in full glory. Some times the Captain also failed in using him well.Occasionally,the slip cordon setting also had let him down. For swing bowlers with his kind of speed, the cordon has to move forward by quite a few yards, compared to the normal pacers. Of course, Pathan's speed also has come down drastically from his early days; but he has an edge in Batting.

Posted by cooljack_143 on (September 14, 2012, 6:54 GMT)

ITS ALL COZ OF MSD the great:-) But there can be a point here as of PK is slow in the field and always looks as if he is carrying injury in the field, a bit sluggish.. Same goes with Munaf & Nehra.Somehow when we look at these guys fielding we feel as if they r carrying whole world on them.Well PK is a class for Tests, india want to just give a chance for other players too before Eng& Aus come up.But anyday PK will be am automatic selection vs Eng& Aus.Munaf could get a chance in ODI's.GL Ind for WC'12.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 6:42 GMT)

@Pacelikefire_Samrat@ I totally agree with you... And it was rightly said by someone in previous comment that we cant afford IK and PK both in same team... Well PK shd learn and improve to find a place as a fast bowler in an international side rather than being frustrated... Gud luck PK...

Posted by rsurya on (September 14, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

Praveen is capable of taking early wickets. He has dual swing.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 6:25 GMT)

people r talking abu yadav,aron,ishant,sreesanth,rp singh for gods sake wen ill u ppl realise that they hav only pace n no control over their line and length ..y do u ppl think only fast bowlers win matches after all in these years only medium pace bowlers hav been successful for india even in foreign conditions except for the recent loss in eng and aus ... IMO zak,pk,pathan,munaf,vinay r way better bowlers than so called fast bowlers india has had in these recent years.. anyday i would hav pk in my team ,,even the english commentators wer so damn impressed by his bowling in eng for him bowling on n on even wen nothing was working for indian bowlers .. this guy is pure hardwork n no show off ..respect

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 6:01 GMT)

Praveen should get chance in short form of cricket, he is a game changer and he has done it many times, in t20 cricket he is a master of swing,,,

Posted by joseyesu on (September 14, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

To me he is a wicket taker as once pathan was in the intial start.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 5:48 GMT)

Praveen please add pace to your craft and then you will become a quality bowler. If you want to survive and perform at international level, you should be bowling consistently @135kms and not 120kms as you have been doing.

Posted by sony_sr on (September 14, 2012, 5:23 GMT)

The whole world knows why he is not picked in indian team. Its a bit surprising to see when he says he alone don't know the reason. Someone who is bowling in 120-125 kph is simply not eligible for playing international cricket as a genuene bowler. Forget about swing at 125 kph, even part-time bowlers in eng/new zealand/aus/south africa. If he can increase speed by atleast 10 kph, he can be a big contender.

Posted by shashi_sku on (September 14, 2012, 5:20 GMT)

Praveen kr is really talanted bowler especially in Indian sub-continent...He must have been picked up.....Selectors are unfair with him.....I hope he will be picked soon by the Team....!!

Posted by satish619chandar on (September 14, 2012, 5:12 GMT)

India really can't afford Pathan and PK in same team. Zak should bowl with new ball and if there is a choice to chose the second bowler, i would pick Pathan on current form. And Praveen is not that useful as first change too. May be, he can use this time as time to learn few new things, develop his skills and also improve his pace a bit. Praveen is certainly not short of talent but at present, he need to upgrade himself and make things tougher for the selectors to keep him away.

Posted by akshay_gambhir on (September 14, 2012, 5:06 GMT)

You can say what you want about his pace and all, but in 6 tests his numbers tell unequivocally say that he's bowled well. And before you make a judgement on his abilities in the sub-continent, take a look at his first class record. 201 wickets in 45 matches at average of 23. He has converted his first class success into great promise in tests. What more can anybody ask for? Wickets are wickets, you get them at 125 kph or 142 kph, doesn't make difference as long as you're getting them,

Posted by mehulmatrix on (September 14, 2012, 4:18 GMT)

Can understand his frustration. He's definitely more committed and better than guys like Ishant. He had a good couple of test series and then was dropped?huh....Ashwin had a horrible Aus series and it still playing.If selectors say hes too slow for sub continent, then why take him in the test team in the first place itself? His T20 form is not great, so fine for not being in them, but ODIs and tests, he definitely should be in. As pointed by some comments correctly, it will be good if he can increase his pace and also avoid getting injured so frequently despite being military-medium.

Posted by Narbavi on (September 14, 2012, 4:06 GMT)

@Abhijeet Kushe: What do u mean? he has performed well in test cricket whenever he has got chances, whom are we to decide he can't bowl well in subcontinent without giving him a chance, for me he is better than ishant sreesanth and umesh, right now irfan zaheer and pk are the top 3 medium pacers in our country, and i am totally shocked that this guy wasn't picked for the t20 world cup!!

Posted by Pacelikefire_Samrat on (September 14, 2012, 3:52 GMT)

Comeon guys get real.On what basis and which format should he be picked?His pace is his biggest liability.In test matches played on the sub continent where there is hardly any movement in the air and off the pitch,he can hardly beat the edge of the bat and overseas he would get hammered all over the place.What is his response after being hit for a six?A loopy legcutter?lol...In ODI's once the shine on the ball fades,he is as good as a spinner.He is just 26,its never too late to change mate.Maybe you can try and become a leg spinner,India has a serious dearth of spinners in the country.Lol...India has struggled to produce an out and out fast bowler who can take the pitch out of the equation and win matches for India.Finally we have Umesh and Aaron.Lets persist with them,they are more likely to win test matches for us rather than P.K who bowls the 1st over of the match with the keeper standing up.What an insult to the great fast bowlers of the past.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 3:41 GMT)

He is a OK bowler on helpful English conditions where the ball swings, but in sub-continent he will be mauled. I am not saying Zaheer or Pathan are better than him, but Praveen surely looses before the experience of Zaheer and batting of Pathan which are very important especially in T20.

Posted by SamRoy on (September 14, 2012, 3:26 GMT)

Praveen, in test cricket, is a million times better than Ishant, Sreesanth and even the promising Umesh Yadav. All of them bowl tons of bad balls and can never keep the run rate in check. Praveen hardly bowls bad balls and always moves the ball both ways and keeps the batsman constantly guessing. Only problem is he bowls between 75 and 80 mph all the time. It can be a bit of constraint in sub-continent as the edges will not carry to the slips but must be picked for test series in Ausralia, SA, WI, England, NZ. He's the best swing bowler in the country.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 0:40 GMT)

Injury is his problem. I wonder how he frequently gets injured with his military pace of 115 to 120 kph. Strange. Praveen need to focus more on his fitness, else he would fade away like Nehra.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2012, 0:30 GMT)

After Irfan Pathan's dog house days, now it is Praveen's turn. In musical chairs, always someone misses out a chair! No? That's the nature of the game!

Posted by Meety on (September 13, 2012, 23:47 GMT)

IMO - Praveen Kumar is a better bowler now, than Zaheer is currently. He is a better fielder too. India should look to replace Zaheer in ODIs & T20s completely - IF they hold Tests to be the pinnacle of cricket.

Posted by   on (September 13, 2012, 22:26 GMT)

Frustrated I mean what has he done so far that he can claim to Walk into the side after recovering from illness. He is no Kumble ,Srinath or Zaheer Khan to expect that. He has to prove his form again. I know missing out on the ROI is depressing but I am glad selectors didnt pick him as they decided to give Sandeep sharma a chance. My personal opinion is that guys like Praveen kumar and Vinay kumar are temporary fixes to the big Seam bowling problem we have

Posted by AnoMaLy on (September 13, 2012, 21:53 GMT)

PK most definitely deserves another chance. English openers really struggled against him with the new ball. I'd slot PK in the T20 WC squad as a backup option.

Posted by S.N.Singh on (September 13, 2012, 21:28 GMT)

I TEND TO AGREE THAT PARVEEN SHOULD BE SELECTED IN ALL FORMAT OF CRICKET IN INDIA'S TEAM ONCE FIT. WHY SELECT BALAJI IN THE 20/20 BECAUCE OF THE IPL ? PARVEEN IS A GREAT SWINGER OF THE BALL AND TO BOWL THE OUT SWING TO BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT HANDER IS VERY NEEDED IN 20/20. ALSO WHY HE WAS NOT SELECTED IN THE INDIAIAN LOCAL MATCHES. I THINK BOTH PARVEEN AND DINDA SHOULD BE IN THE INDIAN TEAM. ESPECIALLY TO PLAY IN SRI LANKA WHEN THE BALL IN DIPPING AND LIFTING. S.N.SINGH USA

Posted by   on (September 13, 2012, 21:26 GMT)

neeed to feel for this guy !!! awsome competitier good for indian cricket !!!

Posted by   on (September 13, 2012, 21:11 GMT)

Looking at India's options in the seam bowing dept. I would say PK deserves a place in the squad at least. He moves the ball both ways, so on swinging decks can be more than useful. Despite the hammering his side took against England last test series, he held his head up and delivered some very good performances.

Posted by raj3006 on (September 13, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

He is not so consistent bowler to take wickets regularly, so no need to take in India squad. that is why his average is 37.02 where as Irfan and Zaheer has below 30. But he is to be selected for ROI. If he is preferred for only ODI's then it is fine.

Posted by GreenDeviln on (September 13, 2012, 20:49 GMT)

Vinay kumar is selected for India A who cant swing the ball an inch while Praveen kumar is outlined of radar, clearly something's wrong with Indian selectors.

Posted by serious-am-i on (September 13, 2012, 19:43 GMT)

Praveen needs to real increase his pace, he was already in early 130's before the injuries after the injuries he is bowling in the speed of Sourav or Kumble's faster ones at 120's.

Posted by   on (September 13, 2012, 19:25 GMT)

He is an excellent Test match bowler. Needs to be in the Test team.

Posted by PratUSA on (September 13, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

In Australia they suddenly decide to dump a player for good and they do it with making public comments on it so everyone knows. In India it's always a mystery. Ashish Nehra was suddenly left out after the world cup year. No one knows why. Praveen Kumar suddenly finds himself out and no one knows why. I remember Robin Singh was suddenly dropped and then never picked again. There are other examples. If selectors think a player is not part of their plans why can't they inform everyone with reason? But again this is Indian selection and logic doesn't always prevail.

Posted by bleedingice on (September 13, 2012, 18:51 GMT)

praveen kumar show be on the test team, he had a great tour of England, idk y hes been sidelined, hes a terrific swing bowler, maybe not as good as zaheer, but a pretty good option when we tour SA

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