May 27, 2011

Wanted: Star batsmen for Pakistan and West Indies

Both these teams are among the weakest batting sides in Test cricket over the last few years, since the retirement of their stalwarts
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In the end, a 1-1 series result was a fair one, considering the relative strengths of Pakistan and West Indies. The hosts had reason to rejoice after winning their first Test in 28 months, while Pakistan showed their fighting qualities - and a far superior spin attack - to level things and ensure they didn't go back home with a demoralising series defeat.

In all this, though, what shouldn't be lost is the relative lack of batting strength of both teams. Pakistan put up the worse of two limp batting displays in Providence, while West Indies were clueless in St Kitts. West Indies' highest total in four innings in the entire series was 230, and the top score by a batsman for them was 57, which tells the sorry tale of their batting. Pakistan were a little better, thanks to two centuries in their second innings in St Kitts.

Overall, though, both teams are still trying to come to grips with the loss of two stalwarts who held their batting together for more than a decade. West Indies lost plenty of matches even when Brian Lara was around, but he was at least one star performer to look forward to, while Inzamam-ul-Haq was the glue in Pakistan's middle order. Lara played 134 Tests, averaged 52.88, and scored 34 hundreds; Inzamam played 120, averaged 49.60, and scored 25 centuries. Without them, their teams are struggling to score runs and hundreds.

The table below shows how West Indies and Pakistan have fared in Tests since the retirements of Lara and Inzamam. Pakistan's results are better, thanks largely to their superior bowling attack; in terms of batting, the numbers are pretty similar: West Indies' average is marginally better, as is their rate of scoring centuries per Test. They've also managed more 350-plus totals as opposed to scores of less than 200.

Pakistan and West Indies without their star batsman
Team Tests W/L Runs per wkt 100s/ 50s 100s per Test 350+ totals Sub-200 totals
Pakistan since Inzamam retired 26 5/ 12 29.45 15/ 67 0.58 9 11
West Indies since Lara retired 34 4/ 17 29.91 27/ 72 0.79 13 12

A look at the team-wise batting stats of teams since Inzamam's retirement shows how poor Pakistan and West Indies have been with the bat, and the gulf between them and the most prolific sides. For a start, only Bangladesh have a lower runs-per-wicket number than them, and even New Zealand - who've been quite an ordinary batting unit during this period - have a slightly higher average. The difference between the top five and the rest is pretty significant too: Sri Lanka, India, South Africa, Australia and England all have 35-plus averages, but the next team, New Zealand, plunge to 28, while Pakistan and West Indies are marginally lower.

The major difference between Pakistan and the other major teams is the conversion rate of fifties into hundreds. Since Inzamam's retirement, Pakistan's batsmen have only managed 15 hundreds in 26 Tests, with two of those coming in the last game against West Indies - that's an average of 0.58 hundreds per Test. During the same period, they've also managed 67 fifties, which makes for a terrible conversion rate of almost four-and-a-half fifties per century; every other team, including Bangladesh, has a better conversion ratio. During the same period South Africa have scored only three more fifties, but more than three times as many hundreds, which offers a fine contrast with Pakistan's numbers.

West Indies' conversion rate isn't so bad - they're only 0.02 poorer than Australia - but they too haven't scored enough fifties or hundreds. Compared to Australia's 1.21 centuries per Test, West Indies have managed 0.83.

Team-wise batting stats in Tests since Oct 13, 2007
Team Tests Average* Strike rate 100s/ 50s 100s per Test 50s per 100
Sri Lanka 28 41.19 55.20 40/ 68 1.43 1.70
India 40 39.73 54.80 58/ 119 1.45 2.05
South Africa 36 39.63 50.51 54/ 70 1.50 1.30
Australia 43 36.56 52.92 52/ 132 1.21 2.54
England 44 35.97 51.09 52/ 106 1.18 2.04
New Zealand 32 28.15 49.99 23/ 77 0.72 3.35
West Indies 30 27.98 47.89 25/ 64 0.83 2.56
Pakistan 26 27.86 46.87 15/ 67 0.58 4.47
Bangladesh 19 23.13 49.33 9/ 36 0.47 4.00
* Only includes runs scored off the bat

Not surprisingly, the list of 34 batsmen who've scored more than 1500 Test runs since October 13, 2007, includes only three West Indians - Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Chris Gayle and Ramnaresh Sarwan - and not a single Pakistani. On the other hand, there are four from Sri Lanka (three of them in the top four, in terms of averages), six from India (four in the top 11), five from South Africa, and seven from England.

To look for more West Indian and Pakistani names, the bar needs to be lowered from the lofty heights of 1500 runs. The top few in the table below have done well, but they haven't played in all their team's matches: Gayle has played only 23 of West Indies' 30 Tests in this period, while Sarwan has played 18. Similarly, for Pakistan, Misbah-ul-Haq and Younis Khan have superb numbers, but they've only played 18 and 12 Tests out of Pakistan's 26.

The problem for both teams has been the other batsmen in the list below, and some others who aren't in the table. (Click here for the full list.) Salman Butt, Umar Akmal and Mohammad Yousuf have all averaged in the 30s during this period, which isn't good enough for specialist batsmen. Together, they've scored three centuries in 89 innings. Azhar Ali has impressed in his brief international career so far, but is still searching for his first hundred, despite having topped 50 eight times in 23 innings. Similarly, for West Indies, Devon Smith has gone 21 innings without getting anywhere near a Test hundred - his highest during this period is 55.

Stats of West Indies and Pakistan batsmen since Oct 13, 2007 (Qual: 800 runs)
Batsman Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s
Shivnarine Chanderpaul 26 1944 60.75 6/ 12
Chris Gayle 23 1894 52.61 6/ 6
Ramnaresh Sarwan 18 1510 48.70 6/ 5
Misbah-ul-Haq 18 1433 57.32 3/ 11
Brendon Nash 20 1093 35.25 2/ 8
Younis Khan 12 1061 58.94 3/ 4
Salman Butt 17 1039 32.46 1/ 6
Umar Akmal 15 988 36.59 1/ 6
Kamran Akmal 18 953 30.74 2/ 5
Mohammad Yousuf 14 889 34.19 1/ 5

Sticky Bravo

Darren Bravo scored only 107 runs in the two Tests against Pakistan, but he made sure he spent plenty of time at the crease, facing 343 deliveries in the series, the highest by far for West Indies. (The second-highest, incidentally, was Kemar Roach with 238.) In all series from the beginning of 2005, only 10 West Indian batsmen have faced more balls in a series in which they played two Tests.

Bravo's problem, though, was his inability to score: his strike rate for the series was 31 runs per 100 balls, which ensures his final numbers for the series don't do justice to the amount of time he spent at the crease. However, he was one of only two half-centurions for West Indies in the series, and his start to his Test career has been mighty impressive - four half-centuries in five Tests, and an average of almost 45. Hopefully, with more experience and confidence, his ability to score runs against all bowlers in all conditions will only improve. Clearly, he's a rare jewel that West Indies can't afford to waste.

S Rajesh is stats editor of Cricinfo

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  • sajjodaalman on May 29, 2011, 21:47 GMT

    atleast chanderpaul is still doing the business. and sarwan has done well to make so much runs in only 18 tests.. and these are the guys gibson wanted to drop! lol what a joke

  • ShardulJuyal on May 29, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    John,

    everyone knows that the bowlers win the matches, but for that should we shoot all the batsmen for being worthless?

    can no one take wickets in the subcontinent? If that was so all subcontinent matches would end in a draw.

    I am unable to understand why some people feel if the pitch is green as Savannah it is good for cricket but if it spins, it is not cricket..

    And as per your comment on the "plummeting averages"..the averages do lessen outside subcontinent but are still respectable

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;groupby=team;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=4;host=5;host=9;orderby=batting_average;spanmin1=13+Oct+2007;spanval1=span;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=4;team=5;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=batting

    Please do the same for bowling, and check the averages of Murli Malinga Zaheer harbhajan and Kumble. Dont forget to include the Subcontinent pitches

  • on May 28, 2011, 21:41 GMT

    india and sri lanka have over inflated batting averages due to the placid flat tracks they produce, these 2 teams averages plummet if you look outside the sub continent. its bowlers that win matches and i would like to see a comparison of that no doubt india and sri lanka would be near the bottom

  • on May 28, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    I think Pakistan can be give more better performances in next upcoming games. This is also true that Pakistan could not able play in homeland which making cause right now, And If Some One can change PCB management then It will be more better for Pakistan Cricket;s Future, I don't know that Why Mr Butt is on the seat of Chair man he never deserve for that seat, Misbah should remain Pakistan Cricket captain but only for Test Matches. Afridi deserves for Pakistan ODI captain he should be remain at least until next world cup game.

  • Zahidsaltin on May 28, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    Pakistan is, in my opinion, most talented cricket nation. Losing a pair of bowlers who were the best among all and were getting even better as Amir grew, Losing advantage of playing at home, losing a solid middle order of Younis, Yousef and Inzi at the same time and Ijaz Butts blunders in management couldn't deter their stay among the best. I think, there are two main factors which cause this statistics in pakistans case; one is them not playing at home and second is inclusion of youngesters like Azhar and Umar who have a lot of talent but need some time to settle. Anyway how many games did Tandulkar play before scoring centuries.

  • FormerMiner on May 28, 2011, 1:38 GMT

    S. Rajesh's column is typically about overstating the obvious. It does a stellar job in exposing each minute grain of dirt an ant carries when the giant anthill is clearly visible to all. Sadly this time he has overlooked an entire wing of the anthill - Pakistan have not batted at home!

  • on May 27, 2011, 20:32 GMT

    Different reason for both teams.. For westindies it is their board who is not letting their main batsman play in WI rather than IPL...For Pakistan it is no playing at home for past 3 years now

  • voma on May 27, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    Aina Marai Waseem , beautifully written both comments .If Pakistan had just 2 batsman who could put runs on the board , they would of beaten England kast year . And im an Englishman

  • on May 27, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    @vinodkd99 to make your record correct Pakistan has played only 2 matches (both drawn) in UAE as a neutral venue against SA out of the 26 matches during the period mentioned in the above article. The other 2 matches they played at a neutral venue were against Australia in England. Result against Australia was 1-1. Considering that pakistan is not playing any home games that result was not bad. All other teams have advantage over Pakistan in this regard as they can make the wickets of their liking in home matches.

  • on May 27, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    Success breeds success!!! But mostly what success needs is stability...What both boards lacked is consistency and stability. The Indian board may be bureaucratic but it is consistent and once in a while, a lucky choice, like making Dhoni captain works the right magic...

    Sports cannot operate in isolation, especially team sports and needs a stable environment to prosper...

  • sajjodaalman on May 29, 2011, 21:47 GMT

    atleast chanderpaul is still doing the business. and sarwan has done well to make so much runs in only 18 tests.. and these are the guys gibson wanted to drop! lol what a joke

  • ShardulJuyal on May 29, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    John,

    everyone knows that the bowlers win the matches, but for that should we shoot all the batsmen for being worthless?

    can no one take wickets in the subcontinent? If that was so all subcontinent matches would end in a draw.

    I am unable to understand why some people feel if the pitch is green as Savannah it is good for cricket but if it spins, it is not cricket..

    And as per your comment on the "plummeting averages"..the averages do lessen outside subcontinent but are still respectable

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;groupby=team;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=4;host=5;host=9;orderby=batting_average;spanmin1=13+Oct+2007;spanval1=span;team=1;team=2;team=3;team=4;team=5;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=batting

    Please do the same for bowling, and check the averages of Murli Malinga Zaheer harbhajan and Kumble. Dont forget to include the Subcontinent pitches

  • on May 28, 2011, 21:41 GMT

    india and sri lanka have over inflated batting averages due to the placid flat tracks they produce, these 2 teams averages plummet if you look outside the sub continent. its bowlers that win matches and i would like to see a comparison of that no doubt india and sri lanka would be near the bottom

  • on May 28, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    I think Pakistan can be give more better performances in next upcoming games. This is also true that Pakistan could not able play in homeland which making cause right now, And If Some One can change PCB management then It will be more better for Pakistan Cricket;s Future, I don't know that Why Mr Butt is on the seat of Chair man he never deserve for that seat, Misbah should remain Pakistan Cricket captain but only for Test Matches. Afridi deserves for Pakistan ODI captain he should be remain at least until next world cup game.

  • Zahidsaltin on May 28, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    Pakistan is, in my opinion, most talented cricket nation. Losing a pair of bowlers who were the best among all and were getting even better as Amir grew, Losing advantage of playing at home, losing a solid middle order of Younis, Yousef and Inzi at the same time and Ijaz Butts blunders in management couldn't deter their stay among the best. I think, there are two main factors which cause this statistics in pakistans case; one is them not playing at home and second is inclusion of youngesters like Azhar and Umar who have a lot of talent but need some time to settle. Anyway how many games did Tandulkar play before scoring centuries.

  • FormerMiner on May 28, 2011, 1:38 GMT

    S. Rajesh's column is typically about overstating the obvious. It does a stellar job in exposing each minute grain of dirt an ant carries when the giant anthill is clearly visible to all. Sadly this time he has overlooked an entire wing of the anthill - Pakistan have not batted at home!

  • on May 27, 2011, 20:32 GMT

    Different reason for both teams.. For westindies it is their board who is not letting their main batsman play in WI rather than IPL...For Pakistan it is no playing at home for past 3 years now

  • voma on May 27, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    Aina Marai Waseem , beautifully written both comments .If Pakistan had just 2 batsman who could put runs on the board , they would of beaten England kast year . And im an Englishman

  • on May 27, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    @vinodkd99 to make your record correct Pakistan has played only 2 matches (both drawn) in UAE as a neutral venue against SA out of the 26 matches during the period mentioned in the above article. The other 2 matches they played at a neutral venue were against Australia in England. Result against Australia was 1-1. Considering that pakistan is not playing any home games that result was not bad. All other teams have advantage over Pakistan in this regard as they can make the wickets of their liking in home matches.

  • on May 27, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    Success breeds success!!! But mostly what success needs is stability...What both boards lacked is consistency and stability. The Indian board may be bureaucratic but it is consistent and once in a while, a lucky choice, like making Dhoni captain works the right magic...

    Sports cannot operate in isolation, especially team sports and needs a stable environment to prosper...

  • Desihungama on May 27, 2011, 16:41 GMT

    Let's see PAK beat Australia in England, Eng in England, NZ in New Zealand, WI in West Indies keeping in mind all the turmoil in their Cricket structure. Now, one person made a shocker of a point. All the Pakistan future stars Azhar, Asad, 2nd coming of Taufeeq, Hafeez have not played a single game at home. I am sorry to say but ICC should actually be honoring Pakistan players for their grace and courage under fire.

  • on May 27, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    Nice analysis but I would like to see a comparison of Pakistan performance to the overseas performance of all other teams because Pakistan has been playing all their matches away. So, Please compare the overseas performance of other teams to Pakistan. Then, we will have a real picture.

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on May 27, 2011, 15:36 GMT

    Pakistan haven't played a completed home series since November 2007. That's 3 1/2 years without a full home series. During that time the closest they've come is 1 small series in the UAE against SA, which they did well in. Let's put things in perspective before knocking them down. @Vinodkd99: One series in the UAE over the past 3 1/2 years does NOT even out the fact that Pakistan has to play all their other matches in away grounds in difficult conditions. Not even close.

  • gottalovetheraindance on May 27, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    We want less talk & more action from Wicb. Now is the perfect time to revamp the A team. Youngsters could be placed there to build up their experience and technique. This is where Pollard, Sammy & Ganga could play an essential role to improving the future of our cricket by guiding them along. Ireland, Netherlands Zimbabwe want to get into test cricket & world cup would it not be beneficial to all involved if our A team played home & away games against them? In Ireland & Holland they would learn about swing bowling. Pakistan wants to Play on their home soil. wouldn't sending our A team there to play their A team or first class teams increase their exposure to Doosra, reverse swing etc while making a case that security in Pakistan is not as bad as before? I am sure the countries mentioned would consider investing in these ventures if Wicb market them properly! Y can the layman see this but not big Shots that getting pay & say they have WI cricket @ heart?

  • SaudSami on May 27, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    Let's play another numbers game and see what happens when we compare batting averages only on away tour of all countries.

  • on May 27, 2011, 10:56 GMT

    With West Indies, the failures have been lack of technique or excellent bowling, or both. Lendl Simmons and Darren Bravo are both impressive, but our bowling has been perfect. Whereas Pakistanis have proven that their problem is just the wrong attitude. We have a horrid conversion rate from 50s to 100s. It must be mentioned that we have an equally bad conversion rate of 30s to 50s, a factor other teams should be ashamed of considering. They start off elegantly enough, interspersing solid defence with stolen singles and beautiful drives, and then suddenly, they do something ridiculous. It has become painful to watch now. Once again at St Kitts they have proven that they can bat well enough if they set their minds to it.

    @vinodkd99: Playing a top side at UAE hardly makes up for all those other tours. I'm not saying we don't bat horribly, merely that the lack of home advantage IS a big deal, not just because its any home, but because its the home of batting paradises.

  • amir-test-cricket on May 27, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    @ vinodkd99 .... mate you are missing the point ... its not just the pitch you talk about when u talk about HOME ADVANTAGE ... its the complete scene ... playing in home means so much more ... the CONFIDENCE level is what makes player to perform. can u imagine players like , Azhar ali . umar akmal , umar ameen, asad shafeeq, and many more, all these are playing test cricket for a while now (with the exception of ameen) and they have'nt played a single test at home ... when you compare these players with the players like , virat kholi, raina, sherma and lot more, you will see the obvious difference in their records . simply because they have the luxury of playing at home. which we dont have ... the talent is same but its just the main things we are missing , THE HOME ADVANTAGE ....

  • wnwn on May 27, 2011, 9:11 GMT

    The simple answer for Pakistan is that they've had a very unstable and inconsistent middle order which is not good if you want to make big scores. We should now stick to this middle order of ali, younus, misbah and shafiq and not keep chopping and changing. The top teams stick with their best players knowing that they'll come good eventually like England did with Alistair Cook last summer.

  • on May 27, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    Good point about home advantage. This is NOT a "LIKE for LIKE" comparision. I agree that comparison of Pak with other sides should ONLY be made for away matches and not so-called "home series" in Dubai or UK! That said, there is a strong case to be made with regard to Pak's low 50-100 conversion ratios that batsmen need to learn how to play long innings. The likes of Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq are all very raw and may comprise a strong middle order in future as they are all talented. Therefore, the average "test cricket playing experience" (avg. number of tests/batsmen) of the first 6 batsmen of each of the sides during the above period since 2007 should also be analysed and it will probably show that both Pak and Windies have among the lowest test experience.

  • asim900 on May 27, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    Pakistan is the only team which plays test cricket on the base of their bowling..They have been poor but not worse like Windies as we have drawn 3 out of last 5 away test series with one as well.Despite of all controversies we are standing and fighting against all tides..Devoid of playing home conditions z a severe blow to us...As u can pnly find good batsmen when they are tried in home grounds.We cannot take extra players in overseas series as it s very costly.Politics played with Younis,Yousaf has really derailed our batting lineup..Hopefully we will soon see a stable team...

  • vinodkd99 on May 27, 2011, 7:24 GMT

    @Fahad and vswami : Regarding losing the Home advantage, you are missing one point. They have been playing in Dubai (some of the matches) on pitches where even Kallis said that you may not have result for even a 10 day test match (after the previous series against Pakistan which ended 0-0). So, that should more or less even it out. May instead of a standard of 1.5 centuries / match by a team, Pakistan still needed to have 1.25. Article is very good.

  • on May 27, 2011, 6:41 GMT

    good article..To be fair to Pakistan, you must consider the fact that Pakistan batsmen have completely lost the home advantage which skews their stats unfavourably.I would like to see a relevant comparison between Pakistan and the away records of other batting teams. .

  • donda on May 27, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    There is no doubt that both teams have no legend player playing , not a bowler or batsman or keeper or fielder. Thats why they are #6 and #7 ranked teams in the world. Inzi was a legend and Lara was bigger than legend player. Only legend batting and bowling makes test teams number 1. See Australia they had legends they were #1 for 10 years now #5 with only 1 legend. India on the other hand suffer for 50 years but suddenly they have 4 legend batsmen + Dhoni is legend wicket keeper batsman and Ghambir will be great two soon. Legends make the test teams great.

  • on May 27, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    We haven't been awesome, but which such horrid batting, even winning the few matches we did proves that our bowling attack mustn't just be one of the best in the world, it must be THE best. No wonder we were a top 5 team for all the time we had decent batting. Thank god for the bowlers!

  • vswami on May 27, 2011, 4:17 GMT

    To be fair to Pakistan, you must consider the fact that Pakistan batsmen have completely lost the home advantage which skews their stats unfavourably.I would like to see a relevant comparison between Pakistan and the away records of other batting teams. .

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  • vswami on May 27, 2011, 4:17 GMT

    To be fair to Pakistan, you must consider the fact that Pakistan batsmen have completely lost the home advantage which skews their stats unfavourably.I would like to see a relevant comparison between Pakistan and the away records of other batting teams. .

  • on May 27, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    We haven't been awesome, but which such horrid batting, even winning the few matches we did proves that our bowling attack mustn't just be one of the best in the world, it must be THE best. No wonder we were a top 5 team for all the time we had decent batting. Thank god for the bowlers!

  • donda on May 27, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    There is no doubt that both teams have no legend player playing , not a bowler or batsman or keeper or fielder. Thats why they are #6 and #7 ranked teams in the world. Inzi was a legend and Lara was bigger than legend player. Only legend batting and bowling makes test teams number 1. See Australia they had legends they were #1 for 10 years now #5 with only 1 legend. India on the other hand suffer for 50 years but suddenly they have 4 legend batsmen + Dhoni is legend wicket keeper batsman and Ghambir will be great two soon. Legends make the test teams great.

  • on May 27, 2011, 6:41 GMT

    good article..To be fair to Pakistan, you must consider the fact that Pakistan batsmen have completely lost the home advantage which skews their stats unfavourably.I would like to see a relevant comparison between Pakistan and the away records of other batting teams. .

  • vinodkd99 on May 27, 2011, 7:24 GMT

    @Fahad and vswami : Regarding losing the Home advantage, you are missing one point. They have been playing in Dubai (some of the matches) on pitches where even Kallis said that you may not have result for even a 10 day test match (after the previous series against Pakistan which ended 0-0). So, that should more or less even it out. May instead of a standard of 1.5 centuries / match by a team, Pakistan still needed to have 1.25. Article is very good.

  • asim900 on May 27, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    Pakistan is the only team which plays test cricket on the base of their bowling..They have been poor but not worse like Windies as we have drawn 3 out of last 5 away test series with one as well.Despite of all controversies we are standing and fighting against all tides..Devoid of playing home conditions z a severe blow to us...As u can pnly find good batsmen when they are tried in home grounds.We cannot take extra players in overseas series as it s very costly.Politics played with Younis,Yousaf has really derailed our batting lineup..Hopefully we will soon see a stable team...

  • on May 27, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    Good point about home advantage. This is NOT a "LIKE for LIKE" comparision. I agree that comparison of Pak with other sides should ONLY be made for away matches and not so-called "home series" in Dubai or UK! That said, there is a strong case to be made with regard to Pak's low 50-100 conversion ratios that batsmen need to learn how to play long innings. The likes of Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq are all very raw and may comprise a strong middle order in future as they are all talented. Therefore, the average "test cricket playing experience" (avg. number of tests/batsmen) of the first 6 batsmen of each of the sides during the above period since 2007 should also be analysed and it will probably show that both Pak and Windies have among the lowest test experience.

  • wnwn on May 27, 2011, 9:11 GMT

    The simple answer for Pakistan is that they've had a very unstable and inconsistent middle order which is not good if you want to make big scores. We should now stick to this middle order of ali, younus, misbah and shafiq and not keep chopping and changing. The top teams stick with their best players knowing that they'll come good eventually like England did with Alistair Cook last summer.

  • amir-test-cricket on May 27, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    @ vinodkd99 .... mate you are missing the point ... its not just the pitch you talk about when u talk about HOME ADVANTAGE ... its the complete scene ... playing in home means so much more ... the CONFIDENCE level is what makes player to perform. can u imagine players like , Azhar ali . umar akmal , umar ameen, asad shafeeq, and many more, all these are playing test cricket for a while now (with the exception of ameen) and they have'nt played a single test at home ... when you compare these players with the players like , virat kholi, raina, sherma and lot more, you will see the obvious difference in their records . simply because they have the luxury of playing at home. which we dont have ... the talent is same but its just the main things we are missing , THE HOME ADVANTAGE ....

  • on May 27, 2011, 10:56 GMT

    With West Indies, the failures have been lack of technique or excellent bowling, or both. Lendl Simmons and Darren Bravo are both impressive, but our bowling has been perfect. Whereas Pakistanis have proven that their problem is just the wrong attitude. We have a horrid conversion rate from 50s to 100s. It must be mentioned that we have an equally bad conversion rate of 30s to 50s, a factor other teams should be ashamed of considering. They start off elegantly enough, interspersing solid defence with stolen singles and beautiful drives, and then suddenly, they do something ridiculous. It has become painful to watch now. Once again at St Kitts they have proven that they can bat well enough if they set their minds to it.

    @vinodkd99: Playing a top side at UAE hardly makes up for all those other tours. I'm not saying we don't bat horribly, merely that the lack of home advantage IS a big deal, not just because its any home, but because its the home of batting paradises.