India in New Zealand 2013-14

Short-ball test will continue - Hesson

Abhishek Purohit in Wellington

February 1, 2014

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Shikhar Dhawan was caught for 32, New Zealand v India, 1st ODI, Napier, January 19, 2014
India's batsmen pulled and hooked once too often in the one-day series © Getty Images
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New Zealand coach Mike Hesson warned that his side will not hesitate to use the short ball against the India batsmen in the Tests. The tactic worked effectively in the 4-0 series win in the ODIs, where many of India's batsmen repeatedly fell trying to hit bouncers.

"Yeah, [if] conditions allow, absolutely," Hesson said. "It is the ability to push guys back and then bowl their natural length [to set the batsman up], the ability to do that and obviously presenting the seam so that we can find the outside edge. That is the sort of formula that we have had for a while. I think we showed that at the Basin Reserve the last time we played, and the way we forced West Indies back and took them out, that is something we will look to continue."

Before the tour began, Hesson had said he would like to see green, seaming pitches being prepared. But as the Tests draw closer, he tempered his demand, saying the strategy could be double-edged.

"I don't think Eden Park ever looks green to be fair," Hesson said after the New Zealand Test squad was announced last week. "The drop-ins don't look green, sometimes they do more than I think. I talk with New Zealand Cricket. I don't ring groundsmen and give orders. That is not the way we operate. NZC are very clear about the type of surface we would like but with that comes risk as well as we know how good the Indian seamers are."

New Zealand's middle-order was prolific in the one-dayers and their Test line-up will also feature many of the same players. Kane Williamson and Ross Taylor, who put on three century partnerships in five matches, along with Brendon McCullum and Corey Anderson will look to draw on the knowledge gained over the past fortnight going into the first Test on February 6.

"We had a good look at the Indian seam attack. Clearly the conditions will be a little different, especially in the first innings of the game," Hesson said. "The Indian seamers are good bowlers, especially if there is a little bit in the wicket. We have got to prepare accordingly, obviously quick change in format so we need to make that shift. Our openers are coming in off some form domestically, so hopefully they can set the tone for us."

Hesson said that even though the formats were different, New Zealand would approach the Tests with belief on the back of what they had just achieved in the ODIs. "There will definitely be some confidence within the group that we can compete with these guys and they are a good side. But we know it is a different format. A few new faces but we will certainly take some confidence into the series."

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Posted by alexlovell11 on (February 3, 2014, 9:01 GMT)

NZs bowlers are about to radically change in the tests but for much better ones. Enter Trent Boult. His combo with Tim Southee in tests was deadly in the West Indies series. Neil Wager isn't too bad either. Plus Watling is a much better batsman than Ronchi.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

We can only hope India does well . Still a lot will depend on Pujara and Kohli when it comes to batting . India will have a lot of questions to answer before they go into 1st Test .Can Vijay and Rahane continue the good work they did in SA? Have Dhawan and Rohit learnt anything from SA to peform better in NZ?

Dhoni again will not try anything new but just hope things fall into place like he does in ODIs although such approach will not work in tests which require captain to be proactive and be innovative in terms of field placing . He will go in with Ishant rather than trying Umesh who seems shunned by him and will look to play Ashwin before Jadeja . He will go for a new combination only when he loses in 1st Test . Ideally he should drop Rohit and play rahane at 5 and himself at 6 with Ashwin and Jadeja to follow .Rohit as it does not look like scoring .Besides it does not weaken batting and gives him an extra bowler and give breather to quicks . He needs to try something new.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 7:14 GMT)

Would like o go with this line up.... Dhawan,murli,pujara,kohli,rahane,rohit,dhoni,jadeja,zaheer,umesh,shami... hope they fire... ALL the best India

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 3:46 GMT)

I hope we do better in tests, but will have to show better discipline. Our tests batting can handle short ball better. I do not think we are still much better with short stuff, but as we saw in SA, moving out of the line of short ball or ducking, they did it in aplomb. They will score slowly, but then bowlers start tiring if you do not allow wickets and we have seen how Pujaras & Kohlis change gears. In ODI's with 2 bouncer rules, it would always take out 70-80 balls of equation that would leave us with 230-240 balls to chase 300 which our shabby bowling will always concede. Tests are different ball game. NZ bowlers as a bunch are wonderful unit, but if we could do it against SA, why not against NZ.

Posted by Johnny_129 on (February 2, 2014, 23:17 GMT)

I think India's batting is moving in the right direction by attacking the short ball - However, they need better execution. In previous tours, India chose to avoid the short ball, giving license to the opposition to pepper them at will!! The hook and pull will reduce the number of short balls they receive and also ensure that progress is not stifled in the face of short-pitched bowling. I would also like to see India playing with 3 pace bowlers and both Jadeja and Ashwin playing at the expense of Rohit. Rohit, like Ishant, shows bits of manic but he is too inconsistent, over all. India needs a team of consistent performers - not the types who are brilliant in one match and ordinary in the next 5 matches!!

Posted by Nampally on (February 2, 2014, 14:12 GMT)

@Live N Let Live: My XI selection will at least be more logical than Dhoni's! It does not take an Einstien to select a balanced XI. But when personal favourites are above the team, the XI selection is biased. Dhoni has been guilty of it. Secondly, This is a young & inexperienced Indian team. Aaron is faster than any NZ seamer but lacks experience. At wellington he was sending them down between 145 to 150 KPH consistently! It is the duty of the Captain to guide him to be on course, rather than ignore him. That is the difference between a Captain & a good Skipper. As for taking wkts. the new bowlers ZAK & Yadev will add to the experience. In addition Pujara & Vijay will provide the stability. This is a much better side than the ODI side & proved their worth in SA Test series. Only Dhoni's poor captaincy (Playing 5 day test with 4 bowlers!) deprived India of winning the test series.As for short pitch bowling Steyn, Morkel & Philander failed in the Test series. Why will NZ succeed?

Posted by scarrule on (February 2, 2014, 13:53 GMT)

@novice rizbi... We Will see who's pulling who's pant down. FYI almost same ashes winning squad of australia was thrashed by same indian test team 4-0. Nd by thrashing i don't mean the thrashing as u pakistani say by merely winning 2-1. I mean the thrashing they are giving now to england. When we mentally borke their team. Haha u say about england pulling our pants down then surely u haven't watch champions trophy final. Where their batsman barring morgan nd bopara were proving the term ''spin chickens'' correct. As they were clueless against our spinners. Nd finally after winning odi series so easinly SA shud have thrashed us in test matches than why this indian test team gave them the toughest fight in last five years in their own country. In contrast pakistan team got all-out on 50 runs. Too bad had pakistan been playing at home they would have no. 1 in all format ryt?? Bt unfortunately they can't bt indian team is in top 2 in every format for almost 2 years now .

Posted by akash112001 on (February 2, 2014, 11:46 GMT)

I fear that we can watch india winning in Jai Ho only....

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 10:36 GMT)

india should learn from Pakistan .. not played even a single match at home still ruled 2013.. most runs in Calender year Misbah .. defeated Lanka & even South Africa,India at their home...

Posted by Number_5 on (February 2, 2014, 7:32 GMT)

Once again we see India unable to perform at any decent level away from home. This must frustrate their fans no end to have a team that are world beaters at home, but the laughing stock of world cricket away from home. Sure they make plenty in the IPL but their fans deserve better, if any Indian player truly wishes to be considered a talent by any fan outside India they need to show some heart, backbone for their country. They have the skill, no doubt but lack the ticker IMO. Harden up boys yours fans deserve better than to be represented by a bunch of highly paid flat track bullies.

Posted by Cricsnake on (February 2, 2014, 6:43 GMT)

India has good bowlers but the issue is they don't implement proper bowling strategy in many cases. Dhoni was the luckiest captain ever and still won despite many mistakes. However he is the best captain material India has at the moment. Thus no need to change captaincy. India should utilize a proper strategy and workout on their mistakes. Anyway I still believe that India could reverse the results in test series. Best wishes to both teams.

Posted by Bdthetiger on (February 2, 2014, 6:31 GMT)

Newzealand should prepare pitches that is green as the outfield.last time this indian team played well against sa attack in flat jo'berg nz should not take risk of flat wicket.i think southe boult wagner anderson is one of the best pace attack in tests currently.i can clearly see a 2-0 drubbing if nz play normally.

Posted by Rahul_78 on (February 2, 2014, 6:20 GMT)

MSD has been monumental for India in his captaincy tenure so far. But all good things come up with some flows. MSD's stubbornness to stick with set of players and giving them such a long rope that it makes the player in question difficult to make a come back if he is dropped on poor. It paid off in Jadejas case but it has backfired in Raina and Ishanths case. Ashwin seem to be following suit. Captain has to take a lot of responsibility as to why his bowlers are continuously giving 300+ runs in ODIs and why they can not take 20 wickets on the pitches which are offering enough helpin tests. Backing the bowlers who are unable to take wickets has made Indian bowling laughing stock. It has started showing its strain on the batsmens also who are always up against it. Some major revamps need to be done before next world cup. Dropping of Ishanth and Raina will be a just start. Ashwin needs to be asked to take wickets and forget economy. Zaheer & Mishra cab be tried.

Posted by AceAndroid on (February 2, 2014, 6:03 GMT)

Almost every team is now facing the problems while playing overseas. Be it Aus, Eng, SA, NZ. This is the current trend. I am not backing Indian team's dismal performance, but every time when India plays bad in overseas tour, media creates uproar as if India is the only team going through this phase. And better NZ keep in mind their limitations, when they play in Asia. Don't forget you were thrashed twice by the minnows like B'desh in their den. Even India has thrashed NZ back in 2010 & 2012.

But yes, of course India needs to quickly improve. Get the better players in, else I feel India can't go beyond quarterfinal stage in WC'15.

Posted by ThilankaK on (February 2, 2014, 6:01 GMT)

Ishant Sharma is a very good bowler, problem is the way he handle because dhoni is a poor captain (out of last 10 ODI his opponents got 300+ or RR 6+), earlier matches he took gamble at many time and with his luck he won it but now It's gone, earlier when he touch to something It become gold, so my team Rohit is the captain. my team ; 1.Vijay 2.Pujara 3.Kohli 4.Rahane 5.R.Sharma* 6.Dhoni(wk) 7.Jadeja 8.Ashwin 9.Z Khan 10.Shami 11.I Sharma perfect balance 8 batsmen (ashwin with 2 centuries & jadeja with 3 first class triple centuries) & 7 bowlers ( with Kohli & Rohit )

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 5:24 GMT)

Let's hope Ms Doni can score some more runs in the next part of this contest.

Posted by humi_cric on (February 2, 2014, 5:08 GMT)

Love to see the deadliest new bowl bowlers Ishant Sharma and Mohit Sharma bowling in tandem to tear apart the NZ batting line up and then Rohit Sharma score a Triple century to help the India to pile up a monumental total. Go Sharmas' Go, show the world your real talent.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 4:22 GMT)

It is time to clear all the trash we have in our team. MSD if you don't think and react you will thrown out soon. Hereafter select a team that can win abroad, don't select half of CSK's men & IPL stars. They can play only in India...

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 3:49 GMT)

The bane of Indin cricket in recent times has been its inability to select a team that has the mind set to guts it out there. Save for Pujara and Kohli you dont have a decent batsman who would want to spend time at the crease and then gradually dictate terms to the fast bowlers. Instead we have slap dash cricketers like a Dhawan, MSD, Nohit Sharma who want to show how aggresive they are and end up losing their wickets. Our spinners too are ineffective abroad. Unless MSD stops interfering with the team selection we will see his bunch of cronies like Jadeja, Raina, Nohit Sharma and Ashwin making the team. Time that the system is overhauled where we have different captains for the different teams.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 2:42 GMT)

Indian cricket team live and die for fame and money, Its all about the mighty dollar not the game in my humble opinion. Just look at the way aussie and English players retire compare to the Indian players .

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 2, 2014, 2:35 GMT)

@Naveed Khan

Really? What happened to Adam Milne when he faced Kohli? And what happened to Philander when he faced Pujara?

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 2:35 GMT)

South Africa and England shows how to pull indias pants down now its time for NZ and Aussies!!

Posted by Alexk400 on (February 2, 2014, 2:17 GMT)

We all heard speed Kills term. But bowling fast from less height is kinda waste of energy. The reason varun arun is useless for me because he lacks height to deliver a blow. I really think if you able to bowl heavy ball at good speed , it will be effective. Heavy ball is a ball that come from certain height which has more acceleration and so its impact on bat is powerful that batsman has no way of handling except timing it. Speed is useless unless its heavy ball. This is why many bowlers claimed to be fast and but kinda ineffective in that they struggle with length. Short Fast bowler even 150kmph is an average bowler (ex tait). You have to have 6 feet 2" atleast to be effective. You may say Ishant sharma is tall. True but we see rarely a bowler who lacks instincts. He is kinda kid in his brain. He gets consumed and under pressure if batsman attacks him.

Posted by kohli_kuttu on (February 2, 2014, 2:15 GMT)

we need our legendary fast bowler Ishant Sharma back if we need to LOSE in a less humiliating way!

Posted by Alexk400 on (February 2, 2014, 1:58 GMT)

nz , Please select henry for TEST. I think he has shane bond ability in unsettling batsman. His bowling action remind me of shane bond. He will be terrific in bundling out indian in Test. I want him and southee operate each end...

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 1:52 GMT)

I think even underarm will do for the indian batsmen like Rohit, Dhawan, Rayudu

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 1:39 GMT)

Gen. comments: Simply put, you cannotjust build batters on rising balls on fast wickets, and once a bowler knows the weakness, he will expliot it. You need lot experience,daring to play hook shot - there is timing, and you could get hit and new comers avoid that.This is the problem with teams largely built on slow bowlers or to get lucky on slower wickets. Again today, speed alone does not fit the bill with new techs., say speed bowling machines. Bolwers also tire out in long spells ending up with injuries, including different variations combined with it. Zaheer is probably the best in his class, if he could keep up with fitness and ofcourse it will take India time to phase in new batters. Perhaps the seniors should have left earlier to provide space. To the other,as once noted, New Zealanders are a very athlatic and a very fast rising all round out fit that will sooner match the best. Recent performances may be the latest indication. Draft......

Posted by zexmanoz on (February 2, 2014, 1:37 GMT)

Being an indian cricket team fan,i was really desperate seeing worst performance of indian team in odi.. I am really suprised seeing still aswin who cannot be called as world class bowler except in home grounds..and yes newzealands cheerers for your info,if kiwis were playing in india they cudnot even touch the balls of jadeja..spin wud thrash kiwis lol..anyway now test time,excited to seeing amazing performance of pujara lol..kiwis prepared..pujara gonna shake your heart lol :p

Posted by SameOld on (February 2, 2014, 1:35 GMT)

This is Wagner's chance to prove the doubters wrong. I predict he'll be aiming to hit the bodies and gloves of the Indians. As he should. Go get 'em BlackCaps.

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 0:06 GMT)

india is the best

Posted by   on (February 2, 2014, 0:02 GMT)

india should have pujara in odi

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 23:22 GMT)

I see many Indian fans saying "our test team is different like we showed in SA" I like to ask what India showed in SA? 1-0? The drawn match was blamed on SA for not going for the win! Big talk by zaheer khan against SMith never came true! So please don't have high hopes and thrash your team again! It's going to be 1-0 win by NZ

Posted by StevieS on (February 1, 2014, 23:18 GMT)

Remember Simon Doull vs India on a green top many moons ago? Well Doull has nothing on Trent Boult, better pray that it won't be a lively wicket Indan fans.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 23:18 GMT)

Nampally...why don't you make dhoni's job easier. Select the playing XI. Yes, Zaheer will take 5 and Yadav 2, Bhubaneshwar 2...1 by anybody. Please send some tips to Ashwin as well, so that he can pick at least 2 wickets in 100 overs. Do you want Javaghal Srinath in thw playing XI??

Posted by __PK on (February 1, 2014, 23:14 GMT)

Nampally, you're saying exactly what the English supporters said before the recent Ashes series. As for lasting 5 days, Indian WISHES the matches would last 5 days.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 23:11 GMT)

Mr.Hesson!! Wow...that is a wonderful stategy.....thanks to let us all know that Indians cannot habdle short pitch stuff....quite new to the world...great job...bravo

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 22:28 GMT)

Has no body stopped to think this could all be mind games?? Our NZ attack is going to be spear headed by Boult and Southee. These guys aren't the short pitched bowlers we need. They get the ball up to swing and use the short ball to get the batsmen back in their crease. Wagner is probably the only guy who can bowl threatening short stuff but to be fair id rather see him use his agressiveness to knock the poles over rather then some one head off.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 22:17 GMT)

@Naveed Khan pace isn't everything, and to be honest Bennett and Henry aren't that much quicker as our current bowlers can all touch 140. I agree that Henry should be in the squad, but it should be at the expense of Doug Bracewell - Southee has taken 61 wickets at about 23 over the past two years despite you saying he's too slow

Posted by Brahams on (February 1, 2014, 22:00 GMT)

What makes everyone think that NZ can play the short-pitched bowling better?

Remember when India toured NZ last time, India won the series! So much for loose talk on this forum.

I admit this time is different - an aging Zak, an unsupportive captain with a defensive mindset, greenhorns and couple of prima donnas. And NZ has some good players in fine nick.

So NZ start as favorites to win. The only hope for India is to have their fast bowlers bowl consistently and aggressively - India really miss Sreesanth types.

Posted by mixters on (February 1, 2014, 21:51 GMT)

@Posted by kiwicricketnut on (February 1, 2014, 19:56 GMT) @ jaswinder singh jammu, this is a cricket forum for cricket fans to discuss cricket, nobody is claiming to be an expert, its an opinion page, be pretty pointless if we all started talking about the weather because we havn't played international cricket, i'd say most here play some form of cricket, love the game and have an opinion, it is my opinion that your comment might be the dumbest i have ever read and there have been some shockers.

The most accurate comment ever on the forum, no spite just an observation unlike so many others. In my opinion.

Posted by BlackCaps4Ever on (February 1, 2014, 21:32 GMT)

@ Cpt.Meanster: if you read the article you will find that Mike Hesson was saying that NZ were likely to bowl short to get the Indians on the back foot, then pitch it up and try to nick them out. This worked against the West Indies - it might work here again. The NZ bowling attack is not as good as the SA one (as you say), so India should be winning these games fairly easily. They are ranked 2 in test matches and NZ are 7-8th. If India don't win fairly easily they should be very disappointed. Lets see what happens.

Posted by Rj_Kiwi on (February 1, 2014, 21:13 GMT)

@ Faryal Khan, Guptil is not playing test cricket because he struggles in against quality bowling when there is even a hint of swing. His technique does not allow for that even if his temperament does. NZ has two openers who I think they are not proven enough, but not disproven enough to be dropped. And if they fail, it wont be guptil who comes in. If Guptil plays test cricket he should fill a middle order slot, (probably 5 again) where he has shown a better result. Guptil may have to wait a while too.

Posted by CurrentPresident on (February 1, 2014, 20:40 GMT)

Alex makes a good point. Due to their short stature, Indian batsmen find it tough to handle short pitched balls. The NZ batsmen would too, if every ball rose to their shoulder height.

On pitches with lower bounce this disadvantage goes away. Should we skewer them for that handicap? I am not sure.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 20:05 GMT)

They should induct Matt Henry and Hamish Bennett. Indian Batsmen are scared of serious pace. New Zealand can do serious psychological damage to Indian Batsmen with short pitched, pace bowling aimed at heart and head. Wagner and Southee do not have the pace, they need Hamish and Henry. I urge Hesson to make the change. Serious Pace is the Magic Hamish, Henry and Trent, HHT is the right Combination with Corey's swing and Ish Sodi's leg spin. India would capitulate.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 20:03 GMT)

If Ishant Sharma plays a test, I would be seriously livid. Md. Shami is playing for sure. Zaheer is the next bet because he is fresher now, and is experienced. The third seamer has to be either Yadav or Bhuvaneshwar Kumar. I wouldn't mind them giving a debut to Ishwar Pandey. But frankly, Yadav should play because it would be great to see two bowlers bowling constantly at 140+ (Shami and Yadav) and one guy using all his experience to fox batsmen (Zaheer).

Posted by Nampally on (February 1, 2014, 20:01 GMT)

To be quite honest, the Indian pace bowlers Shami & Aaron were quicker than the NZ pacers. Aaron was hitting 145 KPH consistently & Shami around 140. The only problem was they were not consistent with their length & location. Had Aaron bowled a fuller length he would have sent several NZ bats packing. Dhoni should have been more of a coach advising Aaron as Captain. But Skipper Dhoni was just a disinterested person! Also Dhoni should have been more proactive with the batsmen to avoid going after short pitched balls & losing their wkts. On the average 3 batsmen/ODI fell to such short pitched rubbish. It is the mind set of the batsmen, their watchfulness, Patience & technique- all challenged. Whatever they did right in the Test #1 vs. SA, the Indian batsmen forgot. So the short pitched balls hurt India in both bowling & batting. India need to watch this in the Tests. It is a payback time. India is too good a side to lose 4-0 in ODI's. They need to avoid the follies of the ODI"s & WIN.

Posted by kiwicricketnut on (February 1, 2014, 19:56 GMT)

@ jaswinder singh jammu, this is a cricket forum for cricket fans to discuss cricket, nobody is claiming to be an expert, its an opinion page, be pretty pointless if we all started talking about the weather because we havn't played international cricket, i'd say most here play some form of cricket, love the game and have an opinion, it is my opinion that your comment might be the dumbest i have ever read and there have been some shockers.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 19:55 GMT)

@army7712 idk what are you talking about nz pacers were far way better then indians lol indians were giving wide short pich deliveries slow bowncers even a 11th player in tge team can thrashed them and nz bowlers were slow but they know where to pitch it right. mills did ten overs nd more then 90% of his bowling was landed in good lenght area. even indian spinners were'nt good look at n.mccullom he is a part time bowler but he bowled on a very tide line and look at jadeja and ashwin they were thrashed all over the ground. ashwin only took 2 wickets in his last 9 matches and went for more then 500 runs lol its pothetic u guys compare him with our hero saed ajmal. in reallity he is no way near ajmal lol even whole india team is far way behind frm pakistan because we just beat sa in sa btw we all know what happen to india in sa lol home track bulliess

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 19:39 GMT)

I feel today that India think tank had gone out of Idea how to motivate their player, i was big fan of Dhoni's thinking and taking gamble on player who is not reputed BIG. But now a days Raina he is looking as 5'th bowler and Ashwin as additional Batsman, but they are not performing for what they are in for team. Raina is in for his batting and Ashwin is in for Bowling.

Dew is working with India long time but i don't remember Bowler that improve under his coaching, during his time Ishant, Bhuvi, Pravin etc loose his confidence as a bowler and even i am not shock to see Shami going Pathan's way in next few months or near time.

India desperately needing young thinking if really they planing for 2015. Some fresh Idea or Find proper support staff that can motivate player and bring confidence back.

I know i am writing here for nothing nobody care about what Indian fan thinking as long BCCI making profiting by loosing series abroad

Get well soon BCCI !!!!

Posted by Nawab67 on (February 1, 2014, 19:35 GMT)

@jordan.....If NZ keep winning at home they will be no 1. Team...doesn't mat,term even oh they lose to BD and others outside NZ. If NZ gets no 1 position , do they deserve ? Just curious about your position...

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 19:32 GMT)

Tilwani - its common for most teams, SL lost to India many times in recent past and India lost to Nz, Nz lost to Bangladesh and Sri Lanka Trashing Bangladesh, most of these teams are strong at their own grounds

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 19:13 GMT)

please stop showing india away matches.. they are going for vacation with bCCI money .. its hooneymoon for them . when india will play again in asia .. please wake up me and I will start cheering again.. dhoni wont mind losing in away bcoz he is loved his beloved fellow mate like raina and rohit to have some vacation in beaches and also with sakhi

Posted by Nampally on (February 1, 2014, 19:05 GMT)

My response to Mr.Hesson's comments is NZ will face a different Indian team in the Tests. Also the tactics of short pitch bowling may back fire on NZ as it did on Stey, Morkel & co. In ODI's a bowler short pitched balls to save runs if they are in a zone difficult to hit. But in Tests, each bumper wastes that much more energy of the bowler & will be ignored by the batsmen. So all the free wkts. given away by the Indian batsmen will be missing. Also can fast bowlers last for 5 days with short pitched bowling? Further more the Indian team will be much reinforced by the return of Pujara to the line up as also Vijay. It will be a different ball game. While NZ boasted off Williamson & Taylor as their batting hopes, India will counter with Pujara & Kohli. Also Vijay & Dhawan can take their time as openers. I expect India to be a totally different team with 4 new faces both in bowling & batting. Only constant will be Dhoni's Captaincy. I hope he will select the right Winning XI for 2 Tests!.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 19:01 GMT)

I am in NZ since 1998 from India. My star players played in the past for NZ but the team work in one day series proved successful. For the first time I am forced to support NZ team and appreciate team performance. Well done Black Caps. Major Ghumman, Auckland

Posted by geevee97 on (February 1, 2014, 18:40 GMT)

I am not against Rohith and Shikar Dhawan, But you cant tell them that they are merely passing through a bad patch.. Look at the shots of shikar dhawan whhich were boundaries, they are also not convincing.. he is being hurried into shots.. forget about the short balls. he is not in a position to play full length and good length balls. Rohith sharma, i rated him quite highly before. But, the way he is playing on bouncy wickets, he doesnt seem to be that good, he is living dangerously all the time.. not able to rotate strike. But even in worst days, Gautam Gambhir and sehwag would get out soon than defending for 25 balls for 5 odd runs, that too unconvincingly.. Sehwag right now cant come into the team.. but Gautam Gambhir can definitely coma back, because he seems determined to have a come back.. It clearly shows that it has some thing to do with Dhoni, with whom he is not having a good relationship..

Posted by 22many on (February 1, 2014, 18:18 GMT)

Should be an interesting series...I just hope we don't get dished up featherbeds where draws are planned for . I will be looking for McCullum to step up if he gets to the wicket early...he needs to start producing instead of relying on others to win him games ....also hope he can win a toss or two.

Posted by army7782 on (February 1, 2014, 18:14 GMT)

i don't think new zealand's pacers are best..zaheer,shami,yadav are better....if you any doubts check thier bowling and nz pacers in pacers get wickets because india's batsman gift it

Posted by TRAM on (February 1, 2014, 15:31 GMT)

In ODIs, most Ind batsmen were out pulling short balls. In tests, Vijay and Pujara are not going to do that. And these two wont throw their wkt away. Plus, Kholi and Dhoni are in good form. So, it wont be easy for NZ. I dont see NZ running through Ind batting line up. Even Styne & co. could not do that. In NZ batting, except RTaylor and Kane Williamson I dont see any other NZ batsmen staying at the crease. So Ind beats NZ in batting dept easily.

India's worry is bowling only. I very much want AMishra in the team which I know NZ would be weak against. But Dhoni wont drop Ashwin. With the pitch not assisting spin, Dhoni may think he is better off keeping Ashwin due to his negative bowling and batting. But it is NOT correct IMO. NZ will be out just by the sight of a leg-spinner flighting... I also want to see IPandey in place of Ashwin, but then Dhoni wont play 4 seamers.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 15:01 GMT)

Our team should be like this- Murali Vijay Sikhar Dhawan Che.Pujara Virat kohli Rohit Sharma M S Dhoni R Jadeja Amit Mishra Zaheer Khan Mohamd Shami Ishwar Pandey

extras. Rayadu ,Wridhiman , umesh , ishant

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 14:59 GMT)

@ Jordanmacmillan88 Well said. I agree 100%. Go KIWIS.

Posted by stormy16 on (February 1, 2014, 14:33 GMT)

Lets not forget India did a reasonable job against the best pace attack in the world in SA. Yes they lost but they gave SA a fright with bat and ball in the first test and Pujara really adds some mussle to the top order. NZ are always hard to beat at home and the NZ pace attack is a quality one with left arm options. India simply cannot drop this series, an already horriible away record becomes joke for a side claiming to be one of the top teams in the world. There is also some pride to play, you cannot go around trying to be more powerful team in the game with money alone, at some stage you must show some worthiness on the field and it cannot be at home alone. Recall Eng beat India well at home too so India needs to win this series for more than one reason. For NZ its an opportunity to protect a solid home record and also to move away from some of the horrors in the recent past including administrative disaster and loses in Bangladesh.

Posted by MSU_BULLDOG on (February 1, 2014, 14:32 GMT)

Our batsmen are falling to short balls that need to be dispatched into the stands. The NZ fast bowlers don't intimidate the batsmen like the real fast bowlers do. The batsmen are falling mostly due to poor choice of shots rather than to a genuine wicket taking bouncer. And the thinking that only Indian batsmen can't handle real short pitched bowling in a bunch of BS. I don't think any one of the English batsmen was comfortable dealing with the genuine bouncers from the Aussies.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 14:07 GMT)

my team for test. 1.vijay 2.dhawan 3.kohli 4.pujara 5.rohit 6.jadeja 7.dhoni 8.rishi dhawan 9.mishra 10.shami 11.varon

Posted by CRICKETJILLA on (February 1, 2014, 14:04 GMT)

I dont think India will repeat the same results in Tests also. Much improved performance are expected from this side.

Posted by Jimmycool10 on (February 1, 2014, 13:48 GMT)

WHY DK is OUT of team becoz he threaten dhoni's place.... poor team selection. indian team also needs pujara in middle order. mishra, ishwar deserved games ahead of ashwin,bhuvi. Wasting rahane by playing him in middle order... all over poor captaincy by dhoni!!!

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 13:47 GMT)

From last 12 ODI [outside India], India won just 1, tie 1 [luckily] & lost 10 of them... So they are definitely Minnows... they should play in the 2nd tier of ODI with China, Namibia, Hongkong or Canada....

Posted by Aashiq.kb on (February 1, 2014, 13:44 GMT)

I am not at all surprised by India's 4-0 defeat in New Zealand. Our batsmen are so used to the flat pitches in the sub-continent that they find it very difficult to adjust to the fair & sporting pitches in Australia, South Africa, New Zealand & England. Virat Kohli and Dhoni, to some extend, will be an exception. But the rest looks so pathetic to the seaming & bouncing deliveries !! Now there will be IPL and these batsmen will be hitting 6 & 4's on the flat pitches in India!! The 4-0 defeat will be swept under the carpet just like the 4-0 defeats in England & Australia! :P

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 1, 2014, 13:40 GMT)

This really shouldn't boil down to the point where we start trying to insult one another when it comes to their national history, culture and traditions. Let's be clear: this is cricket. I have some marvelous Aussie friends and we have some friendly sparring about these matches. We never try to declare war on one another. It's a game after all. As a rational and passionate Indian fan, I can proudly say: win, lose or tie, India 'til I die. Good luck to both teams, and a warning to the Kiwis: last time it was Dravid and Tendulkar, this time it'll be Pujara and Kohli. Get ready to face India's finest in the Tests! :)

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 13:07 GMT)

kiwis are always black horses especially their record against India is vulnerable and they've just continued that. India never beaten black caps in t20 format that is awesome.

Posted by jasonsmithkiwi on (February 1, 2014, 12:58 GMT)

@Nagra. Keep telling yourself that if it makes u feel better aight. No harm in daydreaming. Kiwis will be confident now. Test series will be competitive but NZ should win it 1-0. Go the All blacks and New Zealand.

Posted by Heydait on (February 1, 2014, 12:56 GMT)

If India is a flat pitch bully then how come they have won 1983 World cup? The fact is that NZ have never won any Major series nor away test matches, Now they won one day series on their home soil and they are celebrating like anything which indicate how mentally physically strong Indian team are, Since last 5 years what India have achieved no other team have done that,

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 12:37 GMT)

if your memory is good i would like to remind you that India are current World Cup and champions trophy holders if nz is so good why can not they just convert their skills in to silver the end what matters are trophies and achievements and wat do nz have an odd victory at home..any side which comes to India will leave with the same tally but the Indian team is hunting for glory overseas and it's not going to be easy but we can do it..the T20 World Cup is coming if the nz team is really that great lets see them get that trophy..till then don't get carried away just because you won a random odi series and that too on home pitches

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 12:33 GMT)

India underestimated the Kiwis, expecting an easy series, which cost them dearly. Kiwis did their homework on key Indian players and knew, how to exploit their weaknesses. This is all too sad, because this is not the first time, opposition used variable pace, swing, bouncers to dominate us. India should work hard getting rid of this vice, otherwise they will continue to struggle. What I find most sad is that the pitches in NZ, were perfect for batting. India should have prospered yet they struggled. Clearly, lack of commitment and mindset needs to be looked at. All the best to India.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 12:17 GMT)

people here r saying tht india dont have talent in such big population......I agree india dont produce good athletes but plz keep in ur mind that best doctors, engineers, mathematicians comes frm india...yes we r nt good at sports bcz of our physical limitations.....but we r good enough in other sectors even better than others in mental capability sectors

Posted by gundapps on (February 1, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

NZ Test record in 2013 shows that they are far from being pushovers at home. They held their own in three drawn tests against an England team that was No.1 in the ranking at that time with NZ holding a dominant position in two of these three tests. The NZ team scored plenty against the English bowling that was then considered the best bowling attack and the NZ bowlers managed to bundle out the English team for some low scores.

The NZ team then thrashed the WI team 2-0.

With the bowling attack India has (there is no way this attack can take 20 wickets) it is up to the batting to put up some big scores so that the tests can be drawn at least.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

@sandy bangalore. We need more good fans like you mate with logical thinking and respect for everyone.

Posted by hnlns on (February 1, 2014, 12:06 GMT)

Hesson has realized how premature his assessment of Indian batters alone was, not bothering to think about how NZ batters would handle Indian seamers in helpful conditions. Now he has realized how stupid it would be and has acknowledged rightly that such a move will backfire badly. I feel that based on history, the Eden Park surface will be quite lively for the first session or so and then should turn out to be very nice for proven performers in batting. The shorter boundaries though will always be tempting to hit a few out of the park. If India win the toss, they should go for bowling first.

Posted by rajcl on (February 1, 2014, 12:00 GMT)

generatyion chabged but india is same,in late 90s & early20th in test sachin & dravid now we have sachin version 2 ( virat ) dravid version 2 ( pujara ) & odis sachin version 2 ( virat ) & 2 satysfing thing is 1) we have another one in odi dhoni 2) atleast we r best in home & major tornements,, plz found hit deck fast bowlers then u will see different india

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 11:56 GMT)

Doesn't matter how big India is, or how small nz is, you can only have 11 on the field. Not 1 billion. India, take the loss on the chin. And nz, be humble, this doesn't happen often. Tests will be close. I can't see either team taking 20 wickets , especially if weather comes into it.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 11:36 GMT)

We can give competiton with two players Zaheer nd pujara, This players changed test matches in SA, now they wil do here, only two players changing the team of thy would hav played onedays..

Posted by IndianInnerEdge on (February 1, 2014, 11:26 GMT)

I hope Yadav is selected, he is one who can bowl 145+ and really get them hopping, PROVIDED he pitches it up and not bowls short like he has , for most of his carreer....@jordanmacmillan88 - get a life M8. I really hope adam milne and Bennett play, these guys look quick and always exciting to see quick young pacemen. looking forward to a real close series which has plenty of skill on display, played int he right my fellow bloggers - who ever wins or looses, lets celebrate the fact that we saw something special instead of the crowing, whinging, one upmanship and rubbing the opposition bloggers into the dirt....

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 11:13 GMT)

in team india have very good talent players . need to perform well in test . back to home with cup

Posted by AlvinJoe on (February 1, 2014, 11:10 GMT)

Try your best India. Don't give up.

Posted by Night_Fury on (February 1, 2014, 11:06 GMT)

Shortball is our nemesis that everyone knows. But a good short ball is issue with all players including eng sa aus and nz. Recently completed ashes supports that when mitch was prolly at his all time peak. Our test bowling is pretty better than ODIs when zak is back. We reverse the ball better than Kiwis and it will come to play. My only guess is opening. If dhawan and vijay cld give solid platform, than our batting will click. If the pitch is green we may even go with 4 pacers, jadeja being the only spinner. If Vijay delivers than he must also be given chance in ODIs to open considering Rohit takes test match like time to start scoring.

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 11:03 GMT)

My believe this would be a gud one for 1st test 1.gambir 2.vijay 3.pujara 4.kohli 5.rahane 6.karthik 7.dhoni 8.jadeja 9.zak 10.umesh 11.shami

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 10:58 GMT)

The better 11 would be 1. gambir 2. Karthik 3.pujara 4.kohli 5.yuvi 6.dhoni 7.aswin 8.jadeja 9.irfan 10.shami 11.umesh

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 10:50 GMT)

love it keep testing them with the short ball bounce them out lets see how good the so called one of the big three are

Posted by SydneyIndi on (February 1, 2014, 10:39 GMT)

Please settle down kiwis, don't get carried away with ODI success. Just look at your rankings and record away from home. Anyway, I note that Aaron is not in the Test squad but Ishant & Zak are! Instead of whinging that we don't have express fast bowlers, we do have a genuine fast bowler here (he consistently bowled > 145 kmph, none of the kiwis did yet they think they are very fast and want to bowl bouncers!), shouldn't we pick him and give all help to succeed? Yadav's selection is good, he is also a genuine fast bowler and he should be nurtured, not give him confusing messages from the captain. In my view, Aaron should have been selected in lieu of Zak or Ishant or Bhuvi. To be fair to Ishant, he came in around 2008 in Aust and was great but after an year he really lost it. No pace, no swing. He looks always out of gas. It may be best for him if selectors drop him for an year so he can fix niggles + build strength/stamina & come back hungry. Ref: Johnson handling by Aust.

Posted by rajcl on (February 1, 2014, 10:29 GMT)

i think we need yuvi he is our best player of short lenght ball ( best at above weast & chest but his problem is ball goes to head level he could see & then he would looking every ball at boncer of head hight ) plz dhoni bring confidene in him he is true match winner in odi my 11 1) dhawan/ karthik 2) gambhir 3) virat 4) yuvi 5) rohit 6) dhoni 7) raina 8) binny/ rishidhawan/ irfan 9) jadeja/ mishra/ ashwin/ bajji 10) shami 11) varon/ bhuvi/ umesh

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 10:28 GMT)

ya.....india will be tough in test...i know ross and all team mates are hard but indian all tigers bat and bowler will be very heavy then kiwis.....bst f lk india....dhawan rohit and all plz do ur best ....bst f lk .....india

Posted by blthndr on (February 1, 2014, 10:27 GMT)

it will be a mistake if NZ try too many short ball.....its not ODI match where they hav to play it bt in test they can leave it like they did it in 1st test match in key is to make them play on front foot as much as possible with occasional bouncers.....

Posted by ghostcall on (February 1, 2014, 10:25 GMT)

@Peter_Jones2012 .. I agree with you mate but I still feel its a case of mere wrong team selection rather than short stuff. Also many of them in current line up were proclaimed stars just after few matches n even compared with yesteryear stalwartss like Dhawan for Sehwag, rohit for 10dulkar . Yes our record is poor in NZ, Aus , SA n england and in face to face series we are beaten black n blue but we have won 1983 worldcup after beating mighty westindies at Lords , 20-20 wordl cup in SA after beating SA, Aus & Eng ( infact crushed n eliminated them) , champions trophy 13 in eng n I hv not even counted cups in Asia . I'm still hopeful that come 15 world cup , performance level would pick up subject to team selection but yes again we accept the current ODI team is overrated.

Posted by x_lnc on (February 1, 2014, 10:22 GMT)

It would be better if India go with following eleven for the first test:- Vijay, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Ashwin, Dhoni, Jadeja, Zaheer, Umesh, Shami and Ishwar.

Posted by WhoIsSachin_lol on (February 1, 2014, 10:17 GMT)

shane bond is doing a wonderful job. he did his homework on the indians and noticed, they find it tough when the ball rises above their chest. such a big country and they still struggle. 1.2 billion vs 4.4 million. and cricket is not even our 3rd most popular sport. go figure.

Posted by WhoIsSachin_lol on (February 1, 2014, 10:14 GMT)

india doesn't deserve their 2nd ranking. they are awful overseas and this tour clearly shows, they give up when faced with challenging conditions. how can a team, which only excels in dead pitches be called great? overrated much!!

Posted by sharadgargconnect on (February 1, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

I feel indians are good in India only. They will be defeated in 2 tests also. I predicted 4-0 defeat to india. and it happened. Now time for a defeat in tests. Indians will win a ODI series in England because england is a weak opposition. England is weaker than Zimbabwe at present. They have lost easily to Australia. India will loose this test series 2-0 or 1-1 draw. Then India will go to England and will win odi series there marginally. 3-2 or 2-2. Then, India will tour Australia and will be whitewash there as well.

Posted by kiwicricketnut on (February 1, 2014, 9:46 GMT)

i think india will be tough to crack in the tests, their seamers swing the ball, their spinners will be a huge challenge for anyone who isn't williamson or taylor and we all saw how good kohli was with only 50 overs, imagine if he bats all day because he looks like the kinda guy who could and worse still pujara is even better than him, its going to be a massive challenge to get a win but i still believe we can but i would say india are the favourites despite our odi heroics, we just arn't that good at test cricket and in my opinion we don't even have our best xi on the park making the task even harder. hesson wants to bounce these guys out again, fair enough but he has a team full of swing bowlers so i hope they pitch it up thats a far more attacking ploy with the seamers we have, looking foward to see how sohdi goes against the masters of spin, should be another exciting series against these guys.

Posted by on (February 1, 2014, 9:43 GMT)

I think he is being sarcastic when he said 'we know how good Indian seamers are ' ... even we Indians know our pace attack sucks , so enough with your humility :) on a more serious note pujara and kohli will hold the key to Indian batting , and i have good feel rohit sharma might come good in the tests , i have always thought he is a test player first and foremost

Posted by on (February 1, 2014, 9:35 GMT)

I think i.pandey playing 11 my 11 vijay dhawan pujara kohli ashwin dhoni jadeja zaheer pandey shami rahane ashwin play betsman his better than rohit

Posted by mensan on (February 1, 2014, 9:30 GMT)

The wickets for ODIs were flat but NZ bowlers did not let Indians to drive. They kept the ball short. Indians are not good at horizontal bat shots (cut/pull). I think NZ will apply the same strategy in tests as well.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 9:20 GMT)

Need to give time to Indian team. Yes we have lost the ODI series(But even Australia lost to us 0-4 at home. Nz are very normal team playing to their strengsths.India will do well in tests we need better application from batsmen and aggressive bowling by bowlers(both pacers & Spinners).India should go to tests with both Ashwin & Jadeja as it will give option of playing 5 bowlers.Dhoni should come at No 6 & Ashwin at No 7 and Jaddu at No.8.Dhoni has tremdous job as a captain no other captain has a sucess rate like him.Indian team of the past was a one man team(only Tendulkar) But now it's not like that everybody is contributing.we ned to back our team when they are not winning.Hope and pray Indiam team will come out firing in Tests vz Nz.Piece of advise for R.Ashwin Bowl the off stump line and try your variations in the same line be little more aggressive and dont be predicatable, u r batting superbly be consistent with your bowling u can be Brilliant allrounder which India is looking.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 9:20 GMT)

Mr Peter Jones it's very easy to sit in nz and tell india with its big population can't churn up good players. I suggest you have a good look at cricket history for greats that India has churned out naming them is not req though. Also this is relatively a young team n every touring team has suffered similarly be it aus, England, or what was the scoreline when NZ visited IND. Regarding 200 in odi pitches were same for both the teams then how come only Indians could do it. scoring hundred is tough double is even tougher irrespective of the opposition. Let's enjoy cricket since Indians played good cricket with some exceptions but NZ played better. All in all a good fighting series though the scoreline is not reflective but enjoyed. Finally for test new format new teams a new day may the better team win and we should witness sporting cricket on field. Cheers!

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

ordinary mortals have always raised fingers at the greatest souls only to weep after their departure. Dhoni's contribution has been immense to indian cricket and people around him must learn how to make maximum use of whatever limited abilities you possess..see his records and see the records of so called gifted cricketers...miles ahead...his application is exemplary and he is fixing his batting in tests too evident from his double century against the major cause of defeats are primarily bowlers earlier we used to have balaji or rp singh or sreesanth or bhajji who would rally around one zaheer or kumble though their shelf life was always low but we always used to find one or the cupboard is fairly empty and add to that our opening pair which is not only failing to provide good starts but also adding pressure by wasting delieveries....need of the hour is to bring pujara in..beef up middle order and get zaheer fit to play one more world cup

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 1, 2014, 9:13 GMT)


Like hell that will work. Pujara isn't that easy to figure out. Ask Steyn. I'm looking forward to Kohli and Pujara giving the Kiwis some payback. They outplayed us, no doubt. However, this time, if those two are at the crease, NZ had better watch out. Those two are the best batsmen in the country right now. Try not to make the same mistake we did. Don't underestimate your opponents.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 9:10 GMT)

I would love to see india go with 4 seam attack (pandey, khan, kumar and Ahmad) and jadeja the lone spinner

Posted by Chaminda_Rat on (February 1, 2014, 9:09 GMT)

My team for test write each names of 15 member squad piece of perpers and put in to a tin and shake well. select 11 piece of paper blindly......

becouse it won't chane the result

poor indian suppoters still dreaming of winning abroad......

Posted by ghostcall on (February 1, 2014, 9:00 GMT)

@Peter_Jones2012 .. I agree with you mate but I still feel its a case of mere wrong team selection rather than short stuff. Also many of them in current line up were proclaimed stars just after few matches n even with yesteryear stars like Dhawan for Sehwag, rohit for 10dulkar . Yes our record is poor in NZ, Aus , SA n england and in face to face series we are beaten black n blue but we have won 1983 worldcup after beating mighty westindies at Lords , 20-20 wordl cup in SA after beating SA, Aus & Eng ( infact crushed n eliminated them) , champions trophy 13 in eng n I hv not even counted cups in Asia . I'm still hopeful that come 15 world cup , performance level would pick up subject to team selection but yes again we accept the current ODI team is overrated.

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (February 1, 2014, 8:56 GMT)

As for the short ball, only five batsmen have been solid against it overseas: Dhoni, Virat, Vijay, Rahane and Pujara. The rest will adjust. These guys have been tremendously successful over the past year. Certainly, recent results have not done justice to the talent of this team and as such, some anger is justified. However, these guys need our support now, more than ever. Especially guys like Shami, Rahane, Rohit and Dhawan.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 8:50 GMT)

If NZ put 300 on the board like what they did in the ODIs then surely NZ will win the series. Pujara will be the key threat! First 50 balls to Pajara inviting the drive outside off stump will get him to nick! Don't ball straight to Pujara when he comes to bat!

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 8:45 GMT)

Why nz are not playing M.guptill in test???

Posted by Peter_Jones2014 on (February 1, 2014, 8:34 GMT)

@madan. what are you on about mate? too delusional. india has never been good at handling the short stuff. even in the past. why do you think they have such poor win ratio abroad? this series just confirms it once again. weren't indian fans praising dhawan and co and saying they were like Viv richards? you have been humbled by the kiwis ay. churr

Posted by BHARATH_DADA on (February 1, 2014, 8:31 GMT)

My Team for the Tests- Murali Vijay

Wriddhiman Saha

Cheteshwar Pujara

Virat Kohli

Ambati Rayudu

MS Dhoni

Ravindra Jadeja

Ravichandran Ashwin

Zaheer Khan

Mohammed Shami

Ishwar Pandey

Posted by jimbond on (February 1, 2014, 8:24 GMT)

Hesson need not spell it out- it was pretty clear what the NZ pace attack will try to do. However, keeping it short is not something the NZ pacers will be doing as they know the conditions better(possibly Hesson is trying to mess up the minds of the Indian batsmen). It is length balls that will get wickets in NZ. I thought India coped up pretty okay with the short of length bowling in SA (and those were arguably better bowlers). As far as Indian batting is concerned, the opening in tests is a concern. Neither Vijay nor Dhawan are good enough in moving conditions. Rohit sharma may actually be good in tests, though he is certainly not an ODI prospect. I am not so sure about Rahane, but Rayudu may be okay. Kohli and Pujara of course are the backbone of the Indian batting, and I would put Jadeja and Ashwin ahead of Dhoni. The test matches can be expected to be more closely contested, though Dhoni is not a good test captain.

Posted by Peter_Jones2014 on (February 1, 2014, 8:23 GMT)

Everyone is aware of India's problems that they can't handle pace, bounce and short deliveries ay. Hence, whenever they tour in Aussie, SA or even NZ, bowlers extensively use the short stuff to intimidate them. It works as well. Indian pitches are batting friendly and it's no wonder, double centuries are mostly scored on such rubbish. It's surprising that a 1.2 billion country, where cricket is the only sport being played, can't produce players who can compete everywhere. In NZ, we take part in everyone sport. We even won more gold medals than India at the Olympics ay.

Posted by regofpicton on (February 1, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

Ankush Jain may be closer to the mark than many people think. For mine, I suspect the Indian team will adjust to the test format a little better, and Kohli in particular is going to be a big problem for us. I just hope Rosco gets his head down and proves once and for all (or possibly twice - imagine that!) that he really is the genuine article. Of course I thought the ODIs would be a close-fought series. . .

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 7:55 GMT)

My Team for the Tests-Murali Vijay Ambati Rayudu Cheteshwar Pujara Virat Kohli Rohit Sharma Ajinkya Rahane MS Dhoni Ravindra Jadeja Zaheer Khan Mohammad Shami Umesh Yadav.

Posted by sreehk on (February 1, 2014, 7:54 GMT)

Request Cricinfo authors to write an article on Dhoni the master politician, the way he cleared his way by eliminating all senior players in team. Dhoni is fooling around with people and media. His statements are unprofessional to say the least. Why does a sport need so much of diplomacy and political language that Dhoni uses. What was the need for him to say that "This is a phase in batsmen life where they fail" ? This is to get Raina back and retain Rohit, and Ashwin. Ganguly and Dravid were amazing captains. They never really played politically, instead they backed a group of players and nurtured them into stars like Yuvraj, Sehwag, Irfan, Harbhajan. Dhoni is trying to get slaves who work for him. He likes no other star. He is helpless with Kholi because of enormous talent Kholi posses. It is shameful that how things just move on, with people like Gavaskar and Shastri mumbling and doing nothing, including selectors.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 7:50 GMT)

its not that India doesn't have good players of the short ball; only that all of them are not in the XI... pujara is the best player technique wise in India and he s out... rayudu is a solid top order batsman but he l be booted out after just 2 games... rahane has showed that he can handle the short ball in SA; hope he s given at least half the no. of chances as ishant or rohit! kohli and dhoni are one of the better players of the short ball in the team...even a guy like manoj tiwary was given a raw deal.. in the test side drop rohit and bring in someone like badrinath/rayudu/ even a youngster like baba aparajith... drop ishant from all formats... develop a consistent crop of pacers under zaheer s guidance -umesh aaron pandey bhuvi shami pankaj Singh etc... let ashwin and jadeja be in the team . . who says Ind doesn't have pacers? msd doesn't want them in ... that's the fact!

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 7:49 GMT)

Coaches should sit in the background, shut up and let the real people get on with it...

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 7:46 GMT)

There was s comment yesterday where somone said that Mills had said the kiwi bowlers had already drawn plans for the Indisn batsmen. Southee and particularly Boult (and now Hesson) should be informed that its a very dumb idea to turn up after the days play and tell the media (and the opposition) exactly what the plans for a certain batsman had been (before the next days play, next test etc) No matter how evident some of their problems may Apppear to be, Im sure Indias test batsmen are quaking in their boots over Hess' s big fighting talk..

Posted by wapuser on (February 1, 2014, 7:44 GMT)

Umesh, zak & shami will be the key 4 india & in batting pujara, rohit & kohli......:

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 7:43 GMT)

I still believe that india going to win test series 2-0. anybody else??

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 7:43 GMT)

India should go to Afghanistan or Zimbabwe to secure their first win in 2014. Here it is impossible for club standard Indian bowlers to take 20 wickets.

Posted by sandy_bangalore on (February 1, 2014, 7:39 GMT)

I am amazed by the fact that despite being the richest cricketing body by a mile, and in a nation where cricket is the only sport, and one where mediocre cricketers are showered praises and riches by the masses and media and potrayed as world beaters, we can't put a world class 11 on the park consistently. No desire, no attitude and no skill(except when bullying medium pacers at Rajkot and Indore and Gwalior). ANd losses to a nation whose population is less than that of Bangalore. And they have better bowlers than us! Simply boggles the mind!!

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 7:35 GMT)

Mr Hesson.Do not worry too much..India will lose both the test matches whatever the surface you prepare.Even if you prepare the pitch like a flat road or a cow's pasture,India will be defeated within 3 days as long as Dhoni leads the team..Have a good night's sleep... Also please arrange some sightseeing trip for the Indian team on the 4th and fifth day so that they can share some pictures of their trip with their friends and family.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2014, 7:34 GMT)

on batsmen: Dhawan is an aggressive batsman we all know that...but he must be very particular about shot selection. Rohit on the other hand gets out usually at the slips or by a faulty pull shot rarely he gets out with the bat turning in his hand....if he improves on this issue he can go along way... coming on to Kohli....he is a very good batsman..but usually his temper is what makes him lose his wicket. i dont have a comment on the 4th position.(suggested batsman to this lot are : D Karthik,Rayadu,Sanju...i would prefer to give raina some rest. Dhoni :captain cool! some speculations about his cool nature recently.i personally tnk it was the wrong team selection. jadeja must concentrate on batting a little more. aswin must concentrate on bowling a bit more. bhuvi bowls very well with the new ball , and shami bowls well with the old ball. its a very convinced and balanced side i tnk. this loss in NZ has something to do with the upcoming WC..its a part of Dhonis plan lets wait and wtch

Posted by Zakirh on (February 1, 2014, 7:19 GMT)

I don't see a result other than 2-0 in favor of kiwis here. India has always suffered against the short balls!

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