India in South Africa 2010-11 November 19, 2010

Dhoni requests rest ahead of South Africa tour

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MS Dhoni, the India captain, has said he will request the BCCI for some rest ahead of the tour of South Africa. India have had a busy schedule since the tour of Sri Lanka earlier in the year and Dhoni said players like himself and Suresh Raina haven't had a break. India play a five-match ODI series against New Zealand, their last international assignment ahead of the South Africa tour, and if Dhoni's request is accepted, he could likely be rested for that series.

"If you look at the schedule players like myself and Suresh Raina have been playing non-stop cricket since the Sri Lanka tour," Dhoni told reporters in Nagpur on the eve of the third Test against New Zealand. "We went to play in the Champions League after that and came back and played the Australia and the New Zealand series.

"So there has not been enough time to switch on and switch off. We will put in a request to the board but we have to see whether senior players are available or not."

The BCCI, last month, had agreed to send some players early to South Africa to prepare for the Test series in December due to the absence of any practice games. Dhoni said the details still had to be "worked out". The first Test begins on December 16.

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  • mak102480 on November 25, 2010, 20:12 GMT

    @lakmalphysics: Yesterday you wrote the following: "My friends, I have more interesting stories. Sanga's average in pakistan is 86.87 in 5 matches and Sachin's average in Pakistan is 40.25 in 10 matches. In Soutn Africa Sachin's average is 39.76 in 12 matches. These stats clearly shows that Sachin is not a good player against pace bowling attacks"........umm, u conveniently forgot to mention sanga's avg In South Africa of 39.20............sanga avg's 30.54 in england, 34 in West Indies, and 36.5 in India. sachin avg's 62 in england, 47.69 in West Indies, and 67.94 against Murali and your Sri Lankans........so my friend i guess sanga can't play pace, swing, and spin.......hahahahaha

  • mak102480 on November 25, 2010, 20:08 GMT

    @lakmalphysics: and oh by the way, so far we have only been talking about test matches.......take ODI's: Sanga can't even be mentioned anywhere close to sachin in ODI's.........just be happy that u get to play 3-test series against India and be happy with it.......otherwise nobody wants to play against you........hahahaha.........first win a test match (let alone a series) in india, aust and s.africa. only then SL get to sit at the big boy's table........hahaha

  • mak102480 on November 25, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    @lakmalphysics: You want stats. Here they are: 1) Sachin vs australia: 31 matches, avg 60.59 and Sanga vs australia: 6 matches, avg 41.91. 2) Sachin vs england: 24 matches, avg 61.42 and Sanga vs england: 15 matches, avg 40.28. 3) Sachin vs. Sri Lanka: 25 matches, avg 60.45 and Sanga vs. India: 15 matches, avg 57.13..........so yeah, I can also pick and choose which stats I want to pick...hahaha..........Dude, Sanga couldn't even beat Gilchrist to be in an all-time XI and gilchrist only avg'd 47 in tests.......hahahaha

  • CandidIndian on November 25, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics-Same way i am also not claiming that India is the best team, my point is they are not in any way less than Srilankan team if not better ,about rankings India becoming no 1 dosent reflects that they are all time great its just that since last one decade they have won matches quite consistently against top teams much better than they used to do before.They won more matches against top teams than SL at least in last decade (check the stats i gave in my last post) ,in coming time if SL wins more matches than India against top teams they will move to no 1 its that simple.Quite frankly my personal opinion is that SA,Aus, India, SL and England are well matched teams and the word Domination is no more relevant now like it used to be with old WI or Aussie team and yes i have no shame in accepting that SA deserves to be no 1 more than India till Indian team beats them in their own backyard.Happy thanksgiving to you too .Peace.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 25, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    @sonjjay: My friend, If you have something to say, interpret it with stats. Then I'll check it. I have done my comparision, omitting Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. I have done my comparisions as necessary. I know that this world(Earth) is not a perfect sphere. HAPPY THANKSGIVING MY FRIEND, the Fall break is going to over..

  • sonjjay on November 25, 2010, 9:18 GMT

    @Lakmal Well probably you should also check sanga's avg on Flat featherbed Indian pitches,its less than 35 what do u have to say about that ?? . Also you are again not bringing out the real facts,as this section will be soon closed for comments so i just hope u bring out Murali and warne's comments overseas. The comment where u compare both of them you have easily discounted the fact that murali bowled on spin friendly wickets all his life and against bangladesh a lot of times. I would be happy if u bring out both players averages outside their country and present them country wise and then prove my claims wrong. I havent gone through the stats too but i am sure warne's stats will be better. Happy thanksgiving to you too our sri lankan friend.

  • swamicrony on November 25, 2010, 8:13 GMT

    @Lakmal Physics comment on India's Win loss ratio Buddy u told india is just better than NZ, BANG n ZIM in W\L ratio Yes u r right... But india played a lot against AUS, ENG, SA, PAK and SL rather than against ZIM, BAN and NZ INDIA W\L ratios home - 1.48 away - 0.39 against AUS,ENG,SA,WI,SL(top teams during IND time)(away) - 0.26 SL home - 1.86 away - 0.39 against AUS,ENG,SA,IND(top teams during SL time)(away) - 0.09 with 3 wins in 50 matches Now tell who did better against the best around the world.

  • swamicrony on November 25, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    @ Lakmal Physics - Hey dude are u serious.. U are comparing sangakara with sachin.. Dont joke man plz... Sachin scored runs when Mc Grath and Shane Warne were at prime form.. Sanga's 192 in the 3rd test he played in australia in 2007 was against exhausted Lee, Mitchell Johnson, Staut Clark n Mc Gill.. Shame on u if u compare Aussies best attack with worst attack... That to in flat and dry Hobart pitch... OMG... I dont believe how ppl compare on 3 matches 1 big century on favourable condition with consistent Sachin against Aussies... Lara finished his carrier as a Legend of cricket. Sachin and Ponting is proved enough and they are about to finish. If Sangakara finishes as a legend means it will be good for cricket and everyone around the world will welcome that... But there is a long way for him to go... (Ofcourse not many good bowling pitches around the world, No more great bowlers(after great murali retired) bt still sanga have a long way to go)

  • LakmalPhysics on November 25, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING my friends...

  • LakmalPhysics on November 25, 2010, 4:57 GMT

    @grvdubey: I never wrote that Sri Lanka is the best test team or deserved to be the #1. If I mention that anywhere, please show me it. Then I'll take my words back and apologize my all Indian friends. I posted (not here, somewhere else) that South Africa deserved the #1 spot. And somebody replied that they will, If they find a good spinner.

  • mak102480 on November 25, 2010, 20:12 GMT

    @lakmalphysics: Yesterday you wrote the following: "My friends, I have more interesting stories. Sanga's average in pakistan is 86.87 in 5 matches and Sachin's average in Pakistan is 40.25 in 10 matches. In Soutn Africa Sachin's average is 39.76 in 12 matches. These stats clearly shows that Sachin is not a good player against pace bowling attacks"........umm, u conveniently forgot to mention sanga's avg In South Africa of 39.20............sanga avg's 30.54 in england, 34 in West Indies, and 36.5 in India. sachin avg's 62 in england, 47.69 in West Indies, and 67.94 against Murali and your Sri Lankans........so my friend i guess sanga can't play pace, swing, and spin.......hahahahaha

  • mak102480 on November 25, 2010, 20:08 GMT

    @lakmalphysics: and oh by the way, so far we have only been talking about test matches.......take ODI's: Sanga can't even be mentioned anywhere close to sachin in ODI's.........just be happy that u get to play 3-test series against India and be happy with it.......otherwise nobody wants to play against you........hahahaha.........first win a test match (let alone a series) in india, aust and s.africa. only then SL get to sit at the big boy's table........hahaha

  • mak102480 on November 25, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    @lakmalphysics: You want stats. Here they are: 1) Sachin vs australia: 31 matches, avg 60.59 and Sanga vs australia: 6 matches, avg 41.91. 2) Sachin vs england: 24 matches, avg 61.42 and Sanga vs england: 15 matches, avg 40.28. 3) Sachin vs. Sri Lanka: 25 matches, avg 60.45 and Sanga vs. India: 15 matches, avg 57.13..........so yeah, I can also pick and choose which stats I want to pick...hahaha..........Dude, Sanga couldn't even beat Gilchrist to be in an all-time XI and gilchrist only avg'd 47 in tests.......hahahaha

  • CandidIndian on November 25, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics-Same way i am also not claiming that India is the best team, my point is they are not in any way less than Srilankan team if not better ,about rankings India becoming no 1 dosent reflects that they are all time great its just that since last one decade they have won matches quite consistently against top teams much better than they used to do before.They won more matches against top teams than SL at least in last decade (check the stats i gave in my last post) ,in coming time if SL wins more matches than India against top teams they will move to no 1 its that simple.Quite frankly my personal opinion is that SA,Aus, India, SL and England are well matched teams and the word Domination is no more relevant now like it used to be with old WI or Aussie team and yes i have no shame in accepting that SA deserves to be no 1 more than India till Indian team beats them in their own backyard.Happy thanksgiving to you too .Peace.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 25, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    @sonjjay: My friend, If you have something to say, interpret it with stats. Then I'll check it. I have done my comparision, omitting Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. I have done my comparisions as necessary. I know that this world(Earth) is not a perfect sphere. HAPPY THANKSGIVING MY FRIEND, the Fall break is going to over..

  • sonjjay on November 25, 2010, 9:18 GMT

    @Lakmal Well probably you should also check sanga's avg on Flat featherbed Indian pitches,its less than 35 what do u have to say about that ?? . Also you are again not bringing out the real facts,as this section will be soon closed for comments so i just hope u bring out Murali and warne's comments overseas. The comment where u compare both of them you have easily discounted the fact that murali bowled on spin friendly wickets all his life and against bangladesh a lot of times. I would be happy if u bring out both players averages outside their country and present them country wise and then prove my claims wrong. I havent gone through the stats too but i am sure warne's stats will be better. Happy thanksgiving to you too our sri lankan friend.

  • swamicrony on November 25, 2010, 8:13 GMT

    @Lakmal Physics comment on India's Win loss ratio Buddy u told india is just better than NZ, BANG n ZIM in W\L ratio Yes u r right... But india played a lot against AUS, ENG, SA, PAK and SL rather than against ZIM, BAN and NZ INDIA W\L ratios home - 1.48 away - 0.39 against AUS,ENG,SA,WI,SL(top teams during IND time)(away) - 0.26 SL home - 1.86 away - 0.39 against AUS,ENG,SA,IND(top teams during SL time)(away) - 0.09 with 3 wins in 50 matches Now tell who did better against the best around the world.

  • swamicrony on November 25, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    @ Lakmal Physics - Hey dude are u serious.. U are comparing sangakara with sachin.. Dont joke man plz... Sachin scored runs when Mc Grath and Shane Warne were at prime form.. Sanga's 192 in the 3rd test he played in australia in 2007 was against exhausted Lee, Mitchell Johnson, Staut Clark n Mc Gill.. Shame on u if u compare Aussies best attack with worst attack... That to in flat and dry Hobart pitch... OMG... I dont believe how ppl compare on 3 matches 1 big century on favourable condition with consistent Sachin against Aussies... Lara finished his carrier as a Legend of cricket. Sachin and Ponting is proved enough and they are about to finish. If Sangakara finishes as a legend means it will be good for cricket and everyone around the world will welcome that... But there is a long way for him to go... (Ofcourse not many good bowling pitches around the world, No more great bowlers(after great murali retired) bt still sanga have a long way to go)

  • LakmalPhysics on November 25, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING my friends...

  • LakmalPhysics on November 25, 2010, 4:57 GMT

    @grvdubey: I never wrote that Sri Lanka is the best test team or deserved to be the #1. If I mention that anywhere, please show me it. Then I'll take my words back and apologize my all Indian friends. I posted (not here, somewhere else) that South Africa deserved the #1 spot. And somebody replied that they will, If they find a good spinner.

  • CandidIndian on November 25, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    @Lakmalphysics- I am again repeating the explanation for you since you are avoiding it if we compare performance of India against other top 4 teams in test cricket for last 10 years here are the stats,against Aus, Won 9 lost 6, SA, won 4 lost 5, SL- won 7 lost 5, Eng won 5 , lost 2.While SL in same time period against Aus-won 0 lost 6, SA -won 3 lost 4, India-won 5 lost 7 and Eng won 4 lost 5.So India clearly played well than SL in last 10 yrs so why curse India fr being no 1 Sl could have beaten same teams and become no 1 who stopped you, SL was 1-0 ahead in last series against India and if they had beaten India they could have become no 1 instead they lost the match, so who stopped them from becoming no 1?,India was a very ordinary test team before 2000 but they played well and got at top position, still we have a long way to go as SA is better than us till we beat them at their own backyard.About SL they will not be the best till they win series against top teams,got the point?

  • LakmalPhysics on November 24, 2010, 21:45 GMT

    @sonjjay: You want to compare Murali vs Warne. This is the comparision. Against India, Murali's average is 32.61 and Warne's average is 47.18. Against West Indies, Murali's average is 19.62 and warne's average is 29.95. Against South Africa, Murali's 22.22 and Warne's 24.16. Against England, Murali's 20.06 and Warne's 23.25. Against New Zealand, Murali's 21.53 and Warne's 24.37. Warne better than Murali only against Pakistan which is Murali's 25.46 and Warne's 20.17. Now, tell me as an unbiased Indian, who is the best….

  • LakmalPhysics on November 24, 2010, 20:05 GMT

    @grvdubey: My friend, do you know how many years India took to win a test match in Australia, 45 years and 6 months and 12 matches. Sri Lankans have played only 10 matches in Australia yet. In England, India took 39 years and 22 matches. Sri Lanka needed only 4 matches to get their first win. In West Indies India took 39 years and 12 matches. Sri Lanka took only 5 matches. In South Africa, Indians had to play 10 matches to get their one & only win. Sri Lankans have played only 7 matches yet. In Pakistan, India needed 21 matches. Sri Lanka did it within 11 matches, and within 21 matches Sri Lanka won 6 in Pakistan. Then Sri Lanka, playing test cricket for 28 years, Sri Lankans have performed really well than great Indians and have plenty of time to win in Australia, South Africa and India . Got the point….

  • LakmalPhysics on November 24, 2010, 14:57 GMT

    My friends, I have more interesting stories. Sanga's average in pakistan is 86.87 in 5 matches and Sachin's average in Pakistan is 40.25 in 10 matches. In Soutn Africa Sachin's average is 39.76 in 12 matches. These stats clearly shows that Sachin is not a good player against pace bowling attacks. Then how you guys rate him as the best.....That's why I tell you guys, BCCI MADE AN ARTIFICIAL GOD TO MAKE MONEY. SACHIN IS THE BEST SELLING CRICKET ITEM IN INDIA.

  • CandidIndian on November 24, 2010, 14:29 GMT

    @sonjjay-this Srilankan guy has not answered to my last post as well , he is just too obsessed with his dreamworld . He is so biased that even after giving stats that why India emerged as no1 team in last 10 years and SL didn't he is still the same hypocrite with double standards in evaluating a team.For this guy blog of some Indian who i am sure dosent even know how to hold a bat is like a bible of cricket because he didnt include Sachin in his list but words of legends like Gavaskar, Bradman , Sobers and many more about Sachin is nothing, even Cricinfo's all time great 11 team in which Sachin is picked that is also nothing.He dosent know that even the great players from his country like Murali , Jayasurya ,Sanga etc also recognizes Sachin as the best because they have played the cricket at topmost level and they know that making 30000 international runs is not a joke.So its better for Indian fans to avoid this guy as the is very far from reality.

  • sonjjay on November 24, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    oh and by the way going by the same standards warne has been better against stronger test playing nations compared to Murali,my previous comments about murali's average reveals that but i know ur gonna side step it again coz well there is not much to argue in that case.

  • sonjjay on November 24, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    Inspite of playing so many matches he has such a good avg,anyone can have a good avg by playing 2 or 3 games but to maintain an avg like that over a longer period is more difficult.Again those numbers u are presenting are v.v.selective and same can be done in case of sangakara.Now my proffession involves a lot of numbers and i can cite many examples how u can play with numbers to potray whatever u want to.So u can try as hard as u want we aint buying those distorted numbers.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 24, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    @harsh_vardhan2002 & all other Indians: In Australia Sanga's average is 65.16. Sachin's average is 58.53. Sachin's average is 19.50 in his first tour of Australia. Most interesting thing is Sachin's average is 38.31 in his first 11 matches in Australia. So, the main conclusion is playing a longer time & more experience has befitted Sachin to improve his test average in Australia. So how you guys rate Sachin as the best... There is no logic rating Sachin as the best.

  • sonjjay on November 23, 2010, 9:15 GMT

    Well if anyone is overrated its Muralitharan look at his average in India,SA and Australia. Shane Warne is far better than him and oh yeah just so you know even your own Duleep Mendis did not vote for Murali in the all time XI and thank god Mendis is a sri lankan. Mohd yosuf and sanga they werent anywhere close to the all time world XI. Bradman said that sachin reminds him of himself. Its also no secret why sri lanka dont tour aus and sa very often.Murali as you guys claim can even turn on glass sadly he couldnt turn on aus pitches where he averaged a pathetic 75 with the ball,go figure.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 23, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    Well, I don't hate Indians at all, my comments always about overrated cricketers like Sachin. It's nice to see that some Indians accept my point. This is an example from Anantha Narayanans "SHORT AND LONG PURPLE PATCHES FOR BATSMEN" blog (http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/itfigures/archives/2010/11/gooch_holds_his_own_with_bradm.php).This is one of the responses to his blog.

    Posted by: Vinit Singh Sharma at November 20, 2010 7:34 PM

    The reason for the absence of an Indian batsman is quite simple: they're overrated & completely over-hyped. [[ Thank God you are an Indian !!! Ananth: ]].

    I suggest my Indian friends to read Anantha's blogs more & more. It's sad to know that the great Indian player is missing from this list too. It's nice to see Mohamaad Yousuf & Sanga in the list.

  • CandidIndian on November 23, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    Good answer by Dhoni to critics and Indian cricket haters like Lakmalphysics who were saying that DHONI IS DROPPED due to bad form , he scored 98 on a pitch where whole team of NZ is struggling to make even 150.People just criticize for the sake of it, if average of Sachin is under 40 he deserves to be dropped, if overall average of SL batsman is under 40 they still are greatest and averages dosent matter then , SL is best test team even after not winning any series outside subcontinent and not winning a single match at SA, India and Australia and India is a poor team even after winning series in Eng , NZ and WI and winning tests in SA and Aus.Gosh how hypocrite and biased one can be .WHAT A PITY.

  • CandidIndian on November 23, 2010, 4:34 GMT

    In case our SLfriend or any other guy who hates Indian cricket is finding it difficult to accept there is simple explanation why India emerged as no 1 test team and Srilanka didnt since last decade, if we compare performance of India against other top 4 teams in test cricket for last 10 years here are the stats,against Aus, Won 9 lost 6, SA, won 4 lost 5, SL- won 7 lost 5, Eng won 5 , lost 2.While SL in same time period against Aus-won 0 lost 6, SA -won 3 lost 4, India-won 5 lost 7 and Eng won 4 lost 5.So India clearly played well than SL in last 10 yrs so why curse India for being no 1, you guys also played against Aus , SA Eng , you could have won and become no 1 who stopped you? Only test series SL won outside home is against Pakistan , while India has achieved victory in Eng, WI, NZ .Good to know that you are a happy nation but learn to respect others especially a friend country like India and please stop this hatred its of no use my friend.Peace.

  • Legend_tendulkar on November 23, 2010, 0:46 GMT

    Most people here are confused with the following statement; India play a five-match ODI series against New Zealand, their last international assignment ahead of the South Africa tour, and if Dhoni's request is accepted, he could likely be rested for that series. He is not asking for rest for SA series rather the ODI series against NZ. Cricinfo is just stating that India have a test series against SA after the ODI series against NZ.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 22, 2010, 17:36 GMT

    @LAKMALPHYSICS BEVAN AND HUSSEY HAVE NOT EVEN PLAYED ONE FOURTH OF ODIS SACHIN HAS PLAYED FIRST LET THEM PLAY 400 PLUS ODIS THEN COMPARE BUFFON INFACT U TALK ABOUT AVG UNDER 40 EVEN CAREER AVG OF SANGAKKARA MAHELA DILSHAN ARE UNDER 40 FOR A DECADE SO FOR 2 YEARS TO HAVE UNDER 40 IS NO BIG DEAL AS HE HAS PLAYED 21 YEARS I REPEAT 21 YEARS I REPEAT 21 YEARS HE AVERAGES 60 IN TESTS AGAINST AUS AND HAS 13 TEST TONS AGAINST THEM AND AFTER 12 INNINGS SANGA MAHELA HAVE ONLY 1 TON WHATS A GOOD STAT THAT IS MATE

  • sonjjay on November 22, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    @ Lakmal Physics Good to know ur happy about your team. Indian fans have a had a lot to cheer about our team and plus the recent run we have had in tests is all the more wonderful. If ur happy for ur team than good for you but it seems ur also unhappy with the Indian team.Besides playing over 400 odi matches and maintaining that sort of an average while opening is entirely different story. But anyways u have got ur opinion and we have ours.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 22, 2010, 15:49 GMT

    @JONNEYBHAI0071980 & my other Indian friends: I started to express my opinion to talk about Sachin's test form in 2005, 2006 & 2007 relative to his carrier. Then , as a response to Sonjjay's comment, (Posted by sonjjay on (November 20 2010, 03:46 AM GMT) ) I had to put Sachin's ODI stats in 2005 & 2006. Well, In my opinion, It's useless talking about ODI batting averages and doing comparisons. Do you consider Bevan and Hussey (both average greater than 50) better than Sachin...Even Jack Kallis's average better than Sachin. More important thing is wining matches, As a nation we are very proud & happy about our cricket. We conquered the cricket world in 1996, runner's up in 2007, semi finalists in 2003. More runner's up in 2008 and semifinalists in 2010 in Twenty -Twenty matches. In ODI matches, India's win-loss ration is 1.12 and it's 1.38 for Sri Lanka during last 15 years. So, we are a happy nation than you guys.

  • sonjjay on November 22, 2010, 10:19 GMT

    It looks like some sri lankan fans are distorting facts to prove their point. I cant remember last time sri lanka won a test series outside sub continent oh yeah coz that never happened. Sri Lanka's test playing record is only better than Bangladesh and they have never won a test match in 3 countries.

  • CandidIndian on November 22, 2010, 9:03 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics-Alright my friend , Srilanka has better win ratio than India, but will it be the same after you guys play 445 matches this we will wait and watch,now why you are avoiding simple questions here ,if SL is better team than India why they have won only 6 test matches against India while India have won 14?, why SL has not won a single test in Aus , SA, and India while those teams were able to win test matches at SL?and by your logic if Sachin deserves to be dropped because in time period you mentioned his average was below 40 in ODIs then what should be done to Srilankan batsman like Sangakara , Dilshan and Jayawadhane whose overall batting average is below 40 ? For you Sachin who has made more than 30000 runs at an better average as compared to any of the Srilankan batsman is a SELLING ITEM, does it make any sense? P.S-Sangakara is my favorite batsman outside India and i have great respect for Srilankan team, so sorry if i offended any unbiased SL fan .Peace.

  • TATTUs on November 22, 2010, 7:58 GMT

    @lakmal, Everybody knows Srilanka has a series against bangladesh every year, for improving thier batsmans average. They never won in Aus or SA. And if you ask jayasuriya , he wont even say he is comparable to Sachin, he will slap for your craps.Except for sangakkara all srilankan players will also do the same to you. Stop commenting on Sachin trying to say he is not good, best or anything, for people who know cricket, who loves cricket he is the best. We dont care what you think about him, just stop posting such amateurish comments on public forums. Else your physics and biology will be in trouble.

  • unkith on November 22, 2010, 6:40 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics: Your statistic doesn't prove anything currently. Sure, historically Sri Lanka has been a bone in the side of India back when Aravinda DeSilva and Jayasuriya would demolish our bowlers...but today, batting strength wise the situation is on it's head with Sri Lanka not necessarily having bowlers like Vaas who would splice through the Indian top order. I would say today, India have the advantage, if only slightly, in batting, bowling wise I'd say we are equally toothless and fielding wise Sri Lanka have a slight advantage. So it's pretty evenly matched but the reason Sri Lanka has lost out more in recent times to India is because of the batting advantage, given how batsman friendly the game has become which inevitably then, makes more of a difference.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 22, 2010, 1:16 GMT

    @grvdubey:Okay my friend, now you want to compare Sri Lanka Vs India. Let's do the comparison. Indians have played 445 matches with 107 wins and 138 losses. Then win-loss ratio is 0.77. Sri Lankans have played 196 matches with 61 wins and 70 losses. Then win-loss ratio is 0.87. Clearly, Sri Lankans are better than Indians. And more, Australia, England, South Africa, Pakistan, West Indies win loss ratio better than you guys. You guys better than New Zealand, Bangladesh & Zimbabwe. Now you see...

  • JONNEYBHAI0071980 on November 21, 2010, 18:48 GMT

    @lakmalphysics, please read back what u wrote.U said " His ODI batting average is also less than 40 in 2005 & 2006. These stats clearly show his poor form during this time period". Here,u did mention about Sachin's bad form in the Odi's, cause his avg is less than 40?. Ok, if i do agree with u then the Srilankan board should change the Srilankan Odi players cause all the so called batsmen, average below 4i.e, out of form(accoring to u).Dilshan-avg in Odi 35.35,Sanga-avg in Odi 36.76,M.Jayawardene ave-32.47 in odi, Samaraweera in Odi avg 27.70, T.Kandamby avgs 32.56 in odi's,C.silva-avg in test 33.56 & Odi 30.56,C.Kapugedera avg in test 34.83 & odi 22.9. I evaluated Srilankan players into this debate cause these were your words, Scroll back "You guys need to be unbiased when evaluating quality of foreign products". I have been un biased, following your criteria, but on the contrary ur words set double standards,show stereotyping & biased & are illogicall. Cheers

  • Nampally on November 21, 2010, 16:13 GMT

    India should have rested all senior players for the test in the NZ test series. It was evident that Harbhajan was a shadow of himself in bowling. Ashwin should have played all 3 tests and would have done infinetly better than a tired & out of form Harbhajan.Similarly a whole lot of youngsters are waiting for their chances such as Pujara,Unadkat, Yadev, Mithun, Vijay, Kohli,Tiwary, Mukund, to name a few. These guys have talent but need experience. They won't get it by sitting on the bench. I am glad Dhoni was honest in asking for a rest. Fresh mental attitude is critical to keep the keeness - as shown by Ishant in the 3rd test by taking 4 wiskets.If only India had unadkat & Ashwin, the NZ score might have been even lower. Indian Selectors hopelessly lack vision & Plan.They brought back Jadeja & Yusuf Pathan-SA- after repeated failures while shelving Mithun. Unadkat & Yadev are good & long overdue additions. BCCi badly needs a 5 year plan for player development with visionary Selectors.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 21, 2010, 15:20 GMT

    @LAKMALPHYSICS EVEN YOUR SANGAKKARA AND MAHELA HAVE MUCH POOR AVERAGE AND STRIKE RATE THAN SACHIN WHERE AS SACHIN HAS BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT AND LOOK AT HIS RECORD AGAINST HIS GENERATION'S BEST TEAM AUS AVERAGES 60 IN TESTS LOOK AT HIS RECORD IN ODIS AGAINST THEM AND COMPARE IT WITH EACH SL SINCE IT IS MORE THAN FAIR THAT AUS SET BENCHMARK FOR BAT BOWL AND FIELD IN WORLD CRICKET IF AT ALL U UNDERSTAND MEANING OF WHAT JUST I STATED THEN I GUESS ITS PRETTY MUCH CLEAR THAT HE IS WAY ABOVE THE COMBINED THREE

  • on November 21, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    Stop guys... this is waste of time explaining this amateur people about Sachin... even more comedy comparing Sanath with Sachin... so stupid... Sanath is nowhere near to Sachin class... And one more thing is, Sachin is not defensive player... He plays according to the situation... He is sensible player and will not threw his wicket easily to anyone unlike other barsmen(eg., Sanath)...

  • rko_rules on November 21, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    Why the hell cant we watch SA vs Pakistan test series in India? They r showing it on Ten Cricket . But Ten Cricket is not available on most of the networks. Can anybody pl help?

  • CandidIndian on November 21, 2010, 9:57 GMT

    @Lakmalphysics-India vs SL , records in tests- total matches 35 , India won 14 , Sl won just 6 ,in ODis total matches 128 , India won 67 , SL won 50.India has won 4 test matches in SL , while SL has not won any test match in India so far.India has won test matches in SA ,Aus,won series in England , WI , NZ .While SL hasn't won a test in SA , India and Australia .Last time SL came to India they lost both the test matches.India went to SL and series ended at 1-1.About great Sachin whom you are calling SELLING ITEM, his test record at home-56.89 and away-56.25, while Jaysurya- 43.77 at home and 35.74 away.Now you know where you guys stand .Worry about your team not winning a single test in SA, Aus and India instead of writing irrelevant things about Sachin.This hatred against India cricket will take you no were and it surprises me that these comments are coming from a SriLankan,who have always been great friends with India and they still are.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 21, 2010, 7:50 GMT

    @harsh_vardhan2002:I said " Sachin is more defensive". I meant Sachin is more defensive compared with Sanath. Then, who cares Sanath is old & bla, bla, bla...Since 1996 he treated you guys very well, his favorite opponent was India. You can not change the past my friend.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 21, 2010, 7:40 GMT

    @JONNEYBHAI0071980: What did you say, You are going to be totally unbiased..Then why you talk mainly ODI batting averages of Sri Lankans. In my posts, I mainly commented about Sachin's poor test form during 2005,2006 and 2007. Why you don't talk about Sanga's, Mahela's, Samaraweera's and Dilshan's test batting averages. They are the permanent batsmen. Mathews & Paranawithana still new & Prasanna is the wicketkeeper. The truth is you guys can not be unbiased, never.

  • Suresh123456 on November 21, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    @ LakmalPhysics .. friend i am sticking to basic only.. but the fact remain same that in a career spanned over 20 years u cant hit 8 centuries every year and score 1200 runs.. i guess that is the first basic of cricket... and please I CANT INSULT SACHIN BY COMPARING HIM WITH JAYASURYA... i guess all of us know the difference

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 21, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    @LAKMALPHYSICS WHAT U JUST SAID SACHIN A DEFENSIVE PLAYER WELL HIS ODI STRIKE RATE IS 86 WHICH IS EVEN BETTER THAN PONTING AND IF U SAY PONTING IS A DEFENSIVE PLAYER THEN MATE U HAVE GOT A HORRIBLY POOR CRICKETING KNOWLEDGE SL BUFFON INFACT SANATH IS A SELFISH PLAYER EVEN AFTER NOT PERFORMING FOR PAST 2 YEARS AT 40 HE DOES NOT RETIRE ON THE OTHER HAND SACHIN HAS HAD A TERRIFIC YEAR 2010 AT 37 STILL PLAYING TEST MATCH AS HE IS YOUNG 16 U JUST CANT COMPARE ONE WHO PERFORMS ALL TIME AND SELFISH PLAYERS MATE

  • PTtheAxis on November 20, 2010, 23:57 GMT

    one can have all the breaks one wants. no one is stopping dhoni. its just that they are afraid of youngsters taking their place. yes india is a big enough country to have 12 international teams if selections were made without corrupt officialdom being in charge. bcci is allergic to new names/faces. so are advertisers. they want to cash in on established names. for example there can be a team just from UP, a state full of young muslim village boys who bowl as well and as fast as their pakistani counterparts. you can churn out an amir a month from there. indian team is a severe case of mismanagement from grassroots level. countries with smaller populations like sri lanka and oz get to utilize whatever talent they have. in india they are just barely moving away from bombay-11 towards chennai-11.

  • JONNEYBHAI0071980 on November 20, 2010, 21:15 GMT

    @Lakmalphysics, i have always adored players like Murali, Sangakkara,Jayawardene, etc & majority of the Indians, that i know too, do feel the same.Now am going to be totally unbiased and evaluate the Srilankan players based on your set of principals.Current Srilankan team(Paranavitana- avg 37.08 in test,with a total of 14 matches,Dilshan-avg in Odi 35.35,Sanga-avg in Odi 36.76,M.Jayawardene ave-32.47 in odi, Samaraweera in Odi avg 27.70.A.Mathews-avg in test 35.85 & odi 33.30,P.Jayawardene in test avg 29.94 & odi avg 5.40, T.Kandamby avgs 32.56 in odi's,C.silva-avg in test 33.56 & Odi 30.56,C.Kapugedera avg in test 34.83 & odi 22.95.I think i have covered most of the Srilankan Batsmen.According to what u say,they need to be making a new Srilankan team , cause no of these players qualify to be in the Srilankan team.Dude,I cann't speak for all but i do say that most Indians would agree,when i say that we Indians do appreciate constructive criticism rather than illogical criticisms.Cheers

  • Haryyi on November 20, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Dhoni is not going to do well in SA even if he takes rest for a year. he lack the skills to tackle the bowlers and conditions in SA. he just plays to spend some time and get a double digit score. it has been time dhoni helped india win a crucial test match with his batting. anyway his captancy is good and tats why india is surviving at no.1 still. not to forget the 24/7 , 365 days batting contribution from sachin and laxman in tests.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 20, 2010, 18:44 GMT

    @Suresh123456:I feel sorry about you. Stick to the basics. You can not compare Sachin Vs Sanath on their batting averages. Sanath's style is different from Sachin. Sanath is an atttacking player while Sachin is more deffensive. On the otherhand Sanath is an allrounder with more than 300 ODI wickets & 13,000 runs. These are two different legends. If you new to cricket, read Anand's blog on Sanath's domination in ODI batting. Here, I'm talking about Sachin's form relative to his carrier. Again my friend, stick to the basics.

  • on November 20, 2010, 18:24 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics : stick to ur physic will u? Dhoni wanted rest from NZ ODIs not SA tour. As far as SRT and Lara is concerned, no he wont be considered artificial GOD..forget SRT even Sehwag is better than Lara!!

  • Suresh123456 on November 20, 2010, 16:30 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics .... i am sorry to this dude but looks u dont have any knowledge of cricket.. Since when an average below 40 is bad in ODI (may be by sachin's standard it is less)... if that was the case ur great Jayasurya would have never it to sl team (a career average of 32 only).. for ur records .. our of people who scored more than 5000 runs.. only 12-14 has a average of more than 40..

  • LakmalPhysics on November 20, 2010, 16:12 GMT

    @ my Indian fans: I agree with that Indian fans want to see Sachin playing everyday. BCCI's best selling item is Sachin, and so to make money BCCI made an artificial GOD. If Lara is born in India, then Lara would have been the best selling item in India. Most of the Indian fans see only made in India products. You guys need to be unbiased when evaluating quality of foreign products.

  • on November 20, 2010, 15:35 GMT

    Let our Indian captain. Take the break. His fingers are in bad condition. He deserves a break. Hope he come rejunevated for SA tour.

  • krv954 on November 20, 2010, 14:23 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics. I am an Indian and I am not a huge fan of Tendulkar. But even I have to accept the fact that Tendulkar has never been dropped or forced to rest against his will. The truth is no Indian selector has ever had the guts to drop Tendulkar. Whether he should have been dropped is debatable. But it has never happened so far.

  • on November 20, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Dhoni is requesting rest coz he needs to take rest before the IPL.. Wonder if he would take rest during the IPL which is an off season for the Indians.. Players these days dont bother about playing for there country anymore .. its all about the MONEY.. Shame on u DHONI!

  • AvidCricFan on November 20, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    India is a huge country that should be able to field many more teams of equal calibre. If some seniors are feeling overworked, give them rest, pick up new fresh faces.

  • rssampat on November 20, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    After the world cup, Instead of playing in IPL4, which is scheduled 6-7 days after the world cup, he can rest all he wants. Will he not feel tired after a hectic world cup? Will he ask his franchise owner for a break or rest? He could have skipped Champions trophy for a rest.

  • on November 20, 2010, 12:55 GMT

    Why Srilankans crying foul??? we are the board supporting u and giving u good financial support. dont forget

  • CandidIndian on November 20, 2010, 12:52 GMT

    @Lakmalphysics-Shutting us up by writing bla bla bla may get you a virtual satisfaction but the truth is Tendulkar was never dropped or rested ever since world cup of 1992.The period you mentioned , that time tennis elbow injury was bothering him and that was the reason of him being not so good form , he used to recover a bit from injury and had to come back just because India needed him badly but due to injury he had to go back and rest again .That means he was getting injured again and again hence he used to play some matches and used to sit out due to injury and hence was not so consistent in making runs, finally he had that operation and all , since then he is playing consistently well for India.You may have knowledge about cricket but you dont know much about Indian cricket my friend, the day Tendulkar is dropped from Indian team it will be a SUNAMI like situation among Indian fans, no selector has guts to drop Tendulkar, SO HE WAS NEVER DROPPED OR FORCEFULLY RESTED EVER .

  • on November 20, 2010, 11:45 GMT

    Harrey Yaar Dhoni asking rest because he need to spend some time with hid wife cant you people understand . He is JUST MARRIED.. hahahahahahah Wat an IDEA sur ji...

  • sachin_vvsfan on November 20, 2010, 10:49 GMT

    Here comes another SL fan LakmalPhysics who thinks he knows better than indian players and selectors about players injuries. why don't you worry about your own SL team and your great players.

  • on November 20, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    dhoni is out of form he really need rest nd shewag sud take captianship on bhlf of him...................

  • sonjjay on November 20, 2010, 9:30 GMT

    so i guess Indian players are not allowed to get injured and are supposed to play inspite of surgeries and injuries, wow i just cannot fathom what sri lankan fans will come up with next they better watch sri lanka since their players are immune to injuries or so it seems.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 20, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    @ my Indian friends: I checked Sachins stat again. His test batting average less than 40 during 2005, 2006 & 2007. His ODI batting average is also less than 40 in 2005 & 2006. These stats clearly show his poor form during this time period. If a player is injured, why he continue playing? If a player is injured , he should avoid playing. All the other cricket playing nations does not play with injured players. Therefore you guys can not argue that Sachin had a bad Tennis elbow, so..Bla, Bla, Bla..... The bitter truth is SACHIN HAD A POOR FORM during 2005, 2006, 2007. And then BCCI forced Sachin to take a rest. As a result Sachin played off an on. In 2005, 2006 & 2007 India played 30 test matches and Sachin played only 17 because of his poor form.

  • Prats6 on November 20, 2010, 7:57 GMT

    If MSD wan't the skipper he would be dropped from the test side right now. Dont think India are going to miss him.

  • anver777 on November 20, 2010, 7:54 GMT

    If Dhoni skips surely Indian team is gonna miss his captaincy.....

  • CandidIndian on November 20, 2010, 4:42 GMT

    @Lakmalphysics Sachin was never rested because of his bad form , he is too great to be rested, if he takes rest that is to make sure his tennis elbow in injury dosent appear again .Can you guys keep Murali out if he dosent performs well or is out of form in some matches? the answer is no he is too great a player to be rested until he himself opts to sit out , same is the case with Sachin, i may agree to your point i case of Yuvi that he was rested due to bad form but not Sachin.About Dhoni he has played too much cricket thats why he is asking for rest , its not that BCCI suggested that to him because of him not being in good form.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 20, 2010, 4:28 GMT

    @LAKMALPHYSICS SEEMS LIKE U HAVE PRETTY POOR PHYSICS AND BIOLOGY KNOWLEDGE DURING THAT PERIOD HE SUFFERED TENNIES ELBOW PROBLEMS JUST LIKE KP'S ACHILES HEEL TOOK 3-4 MONTHS TO RECOVER AT 35 HE TOOK MORE TIME TO RECOVER AND IF YOU ARE BIT OUT OF FORM AND HAVE TENNIS ELBOW WHERE U HAVE A LOT OF CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO PLAY DRIVES AND PULLS THEN U SURELY GONNA STRUGGLE SO BETTER OFF TAKE A COOL OFF PERIOD BUT TAKE HIS RECORD FROM 2007-10 HIS RESURGENCE IN BOTH FORMS MUST RECEIVE KUDOS AND AT 37 NOONE BATS LIKE HIM

  • sonjjay on November 20, 2010, 3:46 GMT

    @LakmalPhysics. What are u talkin about?? Sachin was the highest odi run scorer for India in 2007. On the 2007 tour of England he got out in the 90's atleast four times if i can remember correctly.In 2008 sachin played two brilliant knocks to help India win the CB series in aust, you call that out of form ?? I agree with you about 2006 though that was his worst year compared to his standards but he had a shoulder surgery so i guess it has a lot to do with that.

  • on November 20, 2010, 3:35 GMT

    Sensible option considering the amount of Cricket to be played in the next 4 months, especially the World Cup. I think 2 or 3 players from the regular team can be rested & the bench strength can be tested, which would be a good option considering the Mega Event beginning in less than 90 days!! Not a bad idea to test Yousuf Pathan, Rohit Sharma & even some bowlers like Unadkat. Dhoni, Raina, Sehwag & Zak take a breather & focus on the tour of SA. From a WK prospective not a bad idea to give some one like Wriddhiman Saha a chance who recently scored a 150. Good Luck Team India!! Sourya

  • on November 20, 2010, 3:08 GMT

    Its good that player should have rest,but knowing that they have a hectic schedule ahead at international level I think senior players like Dhoni and Raina should not pay IPL,CLT20 matches.But they doesn't demand rest then,its unfair at their part as I think,rest BCCI have more senior players,experts to judge.

  • on November 20, 2010, 2:56 GMT

    Of course by your logic of selecting a player solely based on his stats against a particular team Sachin himself should be dropped for the series against SA, he averages a meagre 38 and change against SA and another low 39 in SA..

  • JONNEYBHAI0071980 on November 20, 2010, 2:56 GMT

    Some of the responses here are extremely funny. Few of the users have bashed the Indian players, with out even aware of the facts or without even reading this article. @ Raj12345 & @Junaid Asif, Like sjavvadi had noted, Dhoni is asking rest for NZ series, so he could play in SA. Wished u guys would read the article, before just going all out to bash the Indian players. I too am not a big fan of Dhoni, but this time around, i do support him and do think, he does need adequate rest before the SA series.

    With this, hope players like Pujara, Y.Pathan,I.Pathan, Robin, Ashwin,Tiwary etc get a chance to play against NZ in India before WC there , giving them all a fair chance to get selected rather than Jadeja or Rohit Sharma, whom, many of us have seen enough off.....

  • LakmalPhysics on November 20, 2010, 2:24 GMT

    @grvdubey: Check Sachins stats during 2005, 2006 & 2007. Bis batting average less than 40 during this period (Don't forget that his average is 127.00 against Bangalsdeh during same period). He played only 17 matches during this period and he took rest saying personal matters. But the truth is he was out of form during this time.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 20, 2010, 1:58 GMT

    @grvdubey: My friend, check the stats. I'm not talking about Sachin's form after his double hundred. He was rested by BCCI during 2006, 2007 and 2008. Because he was not in good form during that time.

  • nlabhe on November 20, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    I believe, the 10 members in Team India except Dhoni has been moving in and out due to injury scare or opportunity factors. He has been playing tirelessly in every series and has affected his performance in recently concluded series. I agree that Dhoni should be rested and Dravid should be pulled back in the squad without any reason as a no.3 specialist. Yuvraj's late off-form have created concerns about the middle order's consistentcy and reliability to perform, who was looked upon as the possible future dravid to balance middle order in ODIs.

    To take riskless chance in the upcoming world cup, its important to take advantage of home conditions in conjunction with the recent good form of Team India. Dravid's addition will boost the batting reliability and experience in coping up with the WC pressure.

  • RonCanada on November 20, 2010, 1:40 GMT

    I think its good time to recall Yush Pathan for ODI with considering his recent forms in domestic. He score 195(138) vs Harayan, took 5+4 wickets vs UP, hit 89(42) vs Gujarat in T20 etc.Also had several good match winning knock for his Baroda Team.He has ability to change game any time. He will be very useful allrounder for India in World cup. Lets hope Indian selector give me one more change.

  • on November 20, 2010, 1:39 GMT

    Just want to put forth my view across all dhoni haters.. guys do understand that he had never performed heavily on test matches but he often come across playing match saving knocks like he did in the england with sreesanth & he came up in the order to score a quick 80 odd runs against aussies in the border-gavaskar trophy.. he knows exactly what he can do.. being a wicket keeper he can deliver a score 40 or 50 runs only.. i agree he is in a poor form which he can counter very qucikly.. is there any one who can do stumpings like dhoni.. i see no other wicket keeper got that kinda quick hands.. i cant rem too in the past.. he is the best bet as the captain.. pls stop questioning bout his captaincy skills.. the moment he gets a major cup u all will come n praise again.. he simply RULES cricket .. DOT

  • sjavvadi on November 20, 2010, 1:35 GMT

    @Junaid Asif: It is very clear that you did not even read the article but are all set to blast MSD. He's requesting rest for the NZ ODI's so that HE CAN PLAY the SA tour...duh....

  • on November 20, 2010, 1:18 GMT

    Dhoni deserves a rest.......only wish is that he gets back into form for the SA tour.......hope

  • on November 20, 2010, 0:57 GMT

    Cricketers need to rest and Dhoni is no exception. Let's be charitable and grant him a well deserved rest. He is leading a good team.

  • nzcricket174 on November 20, 2010, 0:25 GMT

    Who is to blame for the tiredness? Huh? None other than the BCCI. Look at this piece of crap schedule they give the players. Look at NZ's schedule. They base their schedule around tournaments such as the IPL and T20 world cup. This way there are no fatigued players. India need to learn.

  • CandidIndian on November 19, 2010, 23:59 GMT

    When Indians are not in good form, they take a rest. Great Sachin started that, and now it's a trend for Indians.

    @Lakmalphysics- Get your facts right .Sachin was never rested when he was not in good form , he took rest form odis after scoring a 200 in odis against a strong team like SA.Not only Indians but all the players take rest when they have played continuous cricket for long including SL players , targeting Indians just for the sake of it is sad indeed.

  • ArdentCritic on November 19, 2010, 22:50 GMT

    He can be rested. After the rest, send him to deomestic circuit and let him stay there until he regains his form.

  • LakmalPhysics on November 19, 2010, 22:45 GMT

    BCCI is going to drop MSD from the team, because of his poor form. When Indians are not in good form, they take a rest. Great Sachin started that, and now it's a trend for Indians.

  • randyg on November 19, 2010, 22:07 GMT

    I am shocked to see the aggression in the posts of some people. It doesn't matter if you think Dhoni is the best player, the worst player, your least favourite player or what. The truth is, he is a cricket player at the elite level and more importantly a human being that deserves to be treated with equal respect as the rest of Humankind. Put your insults away, if you wouldn't say this stuff to someone you met on the streets then why would you say it on the internet - why has your respect standard changed for an online forum. Also, Raj12345, South Africans are more suited to South African conditions, Indians more suited to Indian conditions, this happens all around the world and is an obvious fact of life as people train in their own countries more than overseas. Come on people, I'm not so much a Dhoni fan but at least I give the guy a fair go. And I thought cricket brought people together - maybe it is not such a great game with fans like some that seek to destroy players.

  • on November 19, 2010, 21:14 GMT

    I agree with Sumitfresh n Moses Aniyan comments......if it was IPL he wouldn't have asked for rest ....either play for ur franchisers or for the pride & honor of India....When T-20 was invented in 2005 , People said; This format suits MSD but see at his record; no single 50 to his credit....but he has scored 50 or above scores for CSK.....it is better to give captaincy to Sehwag/Kohli they will perform better than him....REST means opting out of T-20 games n getting prepaired for bigger challenges ahead in ODI n TEST's ...from this it means he is being afraid to play against NZ in India as he couldn't beat Kiwi's in the first-two test........he should step down as captain from T-20 and give it to Virat Kohli.....he has leading skill n India despirately needs a youngter leader in T-20 not MSD....!!!!!

  • cricnanda on November 19, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    Why should Dhoni be granted 'rest'? He is one of the most sub-standard players to have represented the country. Tell me one test innings of his in the last two years which has helped the team. People complain and the media writes rubbish against a player of Dravid's caliber, saying that he is not performing. Pull out the record books and see how Dhoni has performed. He is a 'lucky' captain having pillars like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Vriu and Zaheer. Seriously, he never deserved a spot in the national team, but he should be thanking his stars for being lucky with a good team. Lets not worry, the game is a great leveler. I bet that the people and media will forget him once he goes down. He does not have the technical skill to work his way out of bad form.

  • passionate_cricket_follower on November 19, 2010, 20:25 GMT

    Laxman should be brought back to the ODI side should Dhoni be rested. Please give him a fair chance to display his ODI skills. I know it'd be tough for him especially when he didn't play one day cricket for a long time, and with age not being in his side. But I firmly believe, he can boost the inexperienced middle order. He should come out at number 3 in ODIs to score centuries for India, as he was doing in 2003-04. He has such a good conversion rate in ODI. Not many Indians have score 6 ODI centuries with a strike rate of ~70.

  • Raj12345 on November 19, 2010, 20:13 GMT

    good. go ahead. waiting to see you all in SA. Let see flat pitch sloggers fat there. Exception is Laxman & Viru.

    Simple Indian cricket mandra - make sure that people play on sub-continent regularly to hide their skills.

    There is high chance of india making into 2nd round in World cup because of home advantage and respected fans.

  • on November 19, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    Rest is perfectly understandable. To all those ppl who who are cribbing about it, go and keep wickets for one full week, and then you see how tough it is actually. Then the training, travelling and all adds further. You all might have a valid point that he could have done without the private leagues, but lets not debate that. Rest is essential, and with the WC so near, it hardly makes sense to make our main players, play in the meaningless ODIs. I mean, come on, how many of you remember, what happened in the 2nd ODI between India-SL in the odi series played in india in 2005??

  • on November 19, 2010, 19:45 GMT

    For what does the board keep him in the team?

  • ajitht on November 19, 2010, 19:20 GMT

    THE WALL.............. PLZ BRING BACK RAHUL DARVID IN ODI TEAM AND GIVE SOME PLAYER REST FOR NEWZEALAND SERIES....IT'SS GOOD IEDA B4 WORLD CUP/....

  • TellasisPatel on November 19, 2010, 18:42 GMT

    Understandable request for both Dhoni and Raina. They want rest and they should get rest. Now, another wicketkeeper will get a chance to play for India, and Virat Kohli can replace Raina as a middle order batsman. Either Dravid or Kohli can replace Dhoni as Captain. Kohli was the successful captain of Young Indian Team. Thank you.

  • mjshaheed on November 19, 2010, 18:39 GMT

    To all those 'experts on paper' who sits in an A/C cubicle and writes that MSD doesn't need a rest; I will tell why he deserves one heck of a rest before the tour of SA.

    He keeps behind the stump all the time guys...he stands there for almost 2 days continuously(an innings a piece in a test) catching all those balls missed by the batsmen and toils in the sun.

    Everyone in the fielding can take a break but not him.

    Don't reply saying he earns money and all that...everyone gets paid and earns money but it's the wicket keeper who works hard on the field.

    In my opinion he well deserves a rest than anyone else in the team.

  • on November 19, 2010, 18:09 GMT

    i think we should bring back kapil dev.. :P.... please stop talking about irfan pathan... he was a good player... but now he is not even present in baroda team.... its almost 10 months since he has played his last first class game... bringing back dravid isnt a good idea as he is not in form....and about laxman.. great player in test.. not in limited overs... FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVENT READ THIS ARTICLE PROPERLY... dhoni asked for rest in upcoming NZ ODI Series and not the SA Tour.... there is nothing wrong in asking rest before the SA tour... because he has played for 88 days in the last 12 months... only clarke ,hussey and watson have played more than dhoni.... also dhoni has additional charge of wicket keeping which makes him the busiest player in present cricketing world... clarke and watson have played for 94 and 89 days respectively... of these clarke and watson have 15 and 13 t20i.. while dhoni only played in 7 T20I..... so i dont think there is any problem in dhoni asking 4 rest.

  • sumitfreak on November 19, 2010, 16:57 GMT

    What do u need rest for msd ????? you've been out there doin nothing for months now.. din perform in tests against australia or newzealand.. came to our city and got out for a first ball duck.. you're just riding on the performances of your high quality team mates.. you don deserve to captain the number one team in the world.. Ponting as captain's always led from the front.. and especially in cruch situations like world cup finals.. Msd performs only for CSK.. I think even he should go the gayle way and let Viru captain.. He'll make all the money anyway which is all he wants !!

  • SettingSun on November 19, 2010, 16:40 GMT

    Translated - "Steyn and Morkel will knock my block off and make me look like the barely above average flat track slogger that I actually am, so I'm going to cower under my bed for a few weeks before we head out."

  • on November 19, 2010, 16:02 GMT

    No excuse MSD..u wont tell this if it was IPL..better opt out of IPL and play for your country..atleast dont blame for the workload while playing for India.. Taking rest wont help him, he is not going to score at south africa.. he is yet to prove himself as a batsman in bouncing tracks..i think its time to drop him from test matches..

  • ani. on November 19, 2010, 15:55 GMT

    Dhoni defiently deserves rest he is playing non stop cricket in last 12 onths

    @Zubair,Munazir

    he is asking rest before SA series ( odis against NZL) pls read article before posting comments

  • NagarajaG on November 19, 2010, 15:42 GMT

    Time to bring back Dravid/Laxman into ODI squad. Laxman still has a long career and Dravid at least 1/2 years. Their strike rates in ODI are not bad. Both carry strike rates of 71+ which is not way below that of Kohli/Gambhir (81+ / 84+). Laxman was left out earlier because of poor fielding and Dravid was left out after a small bad patch, but has done well when given an opportunity in the champions trophy, but was still not persisted with. Among top 10 partnership runs by pairs in ODIs, Dravid, Sachin and Ganguly are in the bracket of top 6 (1. SRT and SG - 8227 runs from 176 innings,5. RD and SG - 4363 runs from 88 inngs, 6. RD and SRT - 4117 from 98). When it comes to highest partnership for any wicket in an innings, Dravid is among top 2 (RD and SRT - 331, RD and SG - 318). Clearly, Dravid's contribution in ODIs is immense and unquestionable. He still has the potential to win matches for India and should be persisted with especially to face quality bowling attack.

  • on November 19, 2010, 15:21 GMT

    MSD has requested rest for the ODI Series against NZ not Against SA...... and he is not that kind of a person who crumbles under pressure...... Let's keep key players Fresh and Fit :-)....... MSD doesn't have to prove anything anymore :-) ....... hopefully BCCI rests key players and preserve them for the big event :-) .......

  • mits6 on November 19, 2010, 15:08 GMT

    Nice to hear that dhoni & raina going to rest , any fellow replacing this DEADLY COMBINATION will perform better than these two . Better they play IPL , or if serving for country be in good form & physically fit .

  • on November 19, 2010, 15:07 GMT

    I think u ppl are confused he wants rest before SA so that he can prepare better for SA. when sachin sehwag gambhir zaheer can get rest for one dayers y not dhoni and raina. I say play kohli yuvraj and Robin Utthappa (as wktkpr) in middle order. Bring in yusuf or irfan or even rohit for jadeja.. that should be a good middle order and will give the fringe players (not yuvraj) a chance to prove their worth for WC. if sachin is resting too, Give uthappa opener's slot :)

  • on November 19, 2010, 15:01 GMT

    ya understandable bcoz he and raina have been playing non stop cricket kk its IMP to have a fit dhoni for the WC more importantly as a captain raina doesnt matter

  • on November 19, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    Smat move by Dhoni.... timely break before world cup with freshen up his form

  • couchpundit on November 19, 2010, 14:41 GMT

    About time he is carrying a finger injury for some time now. it would have been better if he had requested break at the start of the series...raina and dhoni has not done well in last few matches.

    So does poor Zaheer i feel he is being over worked like srinath was over worked by azhar and other captains... Its about time Captains try and bring new talents and foster them here.

  • on November 19, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    Oh man, thats just an excuse to get rid of a very shameful situation he is likely to face in South Africa, Dhoni knows that he will be against a very formidable South African side with bouncy pitches favouring South African bowling attack and everyone knows how the Indian batsmen fare in these conditions.. Good excuse!

  • googletalk on November 19, 2010, 14:27 GMT

    Scandalous! Number 1 test team playing at their home ground, drawn last two matches and preparing for the decider. And captain is talking about rest for forthcoming series. Absalutely shocking! He better should be thinking of team's underperformance and how to improve at immidiate next match. These are the private issues and he suppose to disscuss these with higher management privately. Or, is he looking for excuse in advance for failure in ongoing series? Pure comedy.

  • on November 19, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    Dhoni realized that he and his CSK teammate Raina is out of form and he knows definitely he will be failed in SA too,he fears that if he fails against NZ during the ODI then it will be difficult for him to retained as captain for WC 2010. but if the IPL will come on Nov then he will say" it will be good to have some match practice ahead of the tough series against SA".

  • amit.agarwal on November 19, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    L-M-A-O ::::: only dhoni could have done this "speak for suresh raina". Boy; why cant they replace raina and him with some 'other' player for the remaining of the NZ series... and then resume work in SA. surely and certainly, the likes of "such" players know a reason or two (and and excuse or two) regarding avoiding the SA tour. ha ha ha. furthermore, the SA tour was well known prior to the AUS series but the flat "INDIAN" pitches would surely have given some comfort to these two PLAYERS. i mean, an average indian goes to work 5 day week for all the year and has to apply for leave atleast a week ahead with reason not amounting to "fatigue" as he/she has been working as hard and as good as all others in his workplace. wonder what would have been the reaction if sourav ganguly would have said something during days when obvious was obvious... [fast pitches | short balls | etc ect etc]. well, enough said; BCCI : please grant leave so that they may rejuvenate themselves for the WC | IPL.

  • SUNDOS on November 19, 2010, 14:04 GMT

    At last Mr Strongman realises he needs a rest.Give the man a break,let him rest and not appear in page 3 articles or more commercial appearances.He looks jaded and the rest will do him good for the sterner tests that lie ahead.

  • on November 19, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    @ POISONIVY: same goes 4 sachin n viru.....when did he last represent india in an ODI? if its IPLs 4 after this serie will ambhani give sachin a rest??? viru played ipl2 n ipl3 n got injured n still he carried on through d entire series n missed out T20WC on both occasion..... SO dont just blame dhoni 4 asking rest , which he dfinitely deserve

  • Ashirvad on November 19, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    Resting Dhoni will provide a chance for Sehwag to captain a whole series..that will be a good factor for India before upcoming worldcup..resting Raina will help newcomers to boost their confedence in middle order..let them rest...no problem..:P

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    i strongly feel that india is missing two key players named robin utthappa and irfan pathan for the world cup scheme.robin can not only bat well at no. 7 but can also keep wicket which gives him an edge over dinesh kartik who is not more then an ordinary player.utthappa is also better than rohit sharma when it comes to big hitting.irfan is the only all-rounder exist in india rest are make shift,be it yusuf or jadeja.if selectors can bring these guys in the team at the right time,they can make the team more balanced than it is right now.

    likely team to be picked against NZ is.....gambhir, vijay, kohli, yuvraj, rohit, sourav tiwari, dinesh kartik/ v.saha, jadeja, ashwin, ojha, nehra, praveen, r.vinay, munaf/ishant, pujara/ yusuf.(i would still prefer irfan and uttappa for last two places.) sachin,sehwag,dhoni,raina,zaheer,bhajji should definitly be rested before the tough tour of SA.

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    funny how dhoni is saying that he needs rest when earlier he stated that intl cricketers are athletes and they must be ready to endure the pain..sounds hypocritical however I thoroughly agree with him.. for the betterment of Indian cricket, that man needs rest..

  • Raja.krishna on November 19, 2010, 13:46 GMT

    Dhoni and raina are 2 important players for worldcup interms of captaincy and batting rly. Rest them and test pujara or kohli in place of raina.even harbhajan has been playing non stop cricket. give ashwin a chance to prove himself.

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Totally unprofessional approach by indian captain. playing for country should be top priority. if he wanted rest then why did he play in IPL??? should have taken rest at that time.....but instead he chose to earn extra money. valid points raised by POISONIVY and Raj12345

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:24 GMT

    dhoni are u trying to be a diplomat hea .. u knw that proteas will be much much tougher to beat at their home turf so u opt for rest .. well mr captain if u want rest then it shud av been taken against NZ not for upcoming SA series ... I can say that BCCi will nt accept his diplomatic request .... try to be brave dhoni .. everyone knows that team india has been struglling overseas .. so try to change that not to run from that ....

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    with his batting form, why does he need rest?

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:05 GMT

    MS looks knackered. His form is suffering. Give him a break. Wat is more important - another round of ODIs v NZ, or the eagerly anticipated series v SthAfrica ? We need Dhoni to be at his mentally sharpest & best form v Sth Africa. Stop moping about too much IPL, CL cricket - who cares that is in the past, we need to prepare for future ventures

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:03 GMT

    Dhoni requests rest ahead of South Africa tour

  • Percy_Fender on November 19, 2010, 13:00 GMT

    It is an excellent idea to rest Dhoni at least. Raina is younger and may be quite pivotal in the ODIs against New Zealand. Besides I do not see him playing in the Tests in South Africa where he will struggle I feel with Steyn, Morkel and Tsotobe at his throat all the time. In fact I feel the selectors should announce a "horses for courses" policy of selection which should be implemented even if someone has scored heavily in one seies but is seen as not suited to play in another country. Playing in Australia and South Africa call for good back foot play whereas in England the moving ball has to be countered. So just selecting the same lot again and again is I fee,l passe. If a rotational policy is put in place, there will not be this feeling amongst the players and more importantly the media who are inclined to berate a player not selected to tour a particular country.Sachin,Laxman,Dravid Sehwag Gambhir and Pujara should be the order to be tried for the Nagpur Test.

  • on November 19, 2010, 12:49 GMT

    Well dhoni and raina definitely deserve the rest indeed it would have been better to have a second string side for the test and ODI series against NZ with the likes of Pujara, kohli , manish pandey Yuvraj and others. ODI series with NZ should now be termed as a chance for the youngsters to perform and get the delusive names in the squad Yusuf pathan can be given as a chance as he is ok in indian condition where we are going to have the WC

  • POISONIVY on November 19, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    at the time of ipl season 1 chennai super kings made it to semi finals comfortably and had 3 to 4 games in hand. still msd played remaining league matches and after completion of ipl didn't tour sri lanka citing reasons of fatigue. now he wants rest again. will he be asking for rest if it is ipl4 after the new zealand test series. think??????

  • Raj12345 on November 19, 2010, 12:35 GMT

    If I go there, then there is high chance of 100% failure. If you think like that you should have been asked rest for NZ matches, not for SA matches.

    Good tactics.

  • on November 19, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    I recommend the rest to Dhoni.

  • nzcricket174 on November 19, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    I bet if India had won at least 1/2 of the tests he wouldn't be saying this. Its true it may be affecting him, but you could also say he is playing the tiredness card. Raina can't take a rest at the moment because there will be no room for him when he comes back because Pujara would have already taken his place.

  • B-Joy on November 19, 2010, 11:57 GMT

    BCCI...Let them rest in piece and bring the players like Pujara, Tiwary ,Rayudu etc...

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  • B-Joy on November 19, 2010, 11:57 GMT

    BCCI...Let them rest in piece and bring the players like Pujara, Tiwary ,Rayudu etc...

  • nzcricket174 on November 19, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    I bet if India had won at least 1/2 of the tests he wouldn't be saying this. Its true it may be affecting him, but you could also say he is playing the tiredness card. Raina can't take a rest at the moment because there will be no room for him when he comes back because Pujara would have already taken his place.

  • on November 19, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    I recommend the rest to Dhoni.

  • Raj12345 on November 19, 2010, 12:35 GMT

    If I go there, then there is high chance of 100% failure. If you think like that you should have been asked rest for NZ matches, not for SA matches.

    Good tactics.

  • POISONIVY on November 19, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    at the time of ipl season 1 chennai super kings made it to semi finals comfortably and had 3 to 4 games in hand. still msd played remaining league matches and after completion of ipl didn't tour sri lanka citing reasons of fatigue. now he wants rest again. will he be asking for rest if it is ipl4 after the new zealand test series. think??????

  • on November 19, 2010, 12:49 GMT

    Well dhoni and raina definitely deserve the rest indeed it would have been better to have a second string side for the test and ODI series against NZ with the likes of Pujara, kohli , manish pandey Yuvraj and others. ODI series with NZ should now be termed as a chance for the youngsters to perform and get the delusive names in the squad Yusuf pathan can be given as a chance as he is ok in indian condition where we are going to have the WC

  • Percy_Fender on November 19, 2010, 13:00 GMT

    It is an excellent idea to rest Dhoni at least. Raina is younger and may be quite pivotal in the ODIs against New Zealand. Besides I do not see him playing in the Tests in South Africa where he will struggle I feel with Steyn, Morkel and Tsotobe at his throat all the time. In fact I feel the selectors should announce a "horses for courses" policy of selection which should be implemented even if someone has scored heavily in one seies but is seen as not suited to play in another country. Playing in Australia and South Africa call for good back foot play whereas in England the moving ball has to be countered. So just selecting the same lot again and again is I fee,l passe. If a rotational policy is put in place, there will not be this feeling amongst the players and more importantly the media who are inclined to berate a player not selected to tour a particular country.Sachin,Laxman,Dravid Sehwag Gambhir and Pujara should be the order to be tried for the Nagpur Test.

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:03 GMT

    Dhoni requests rest ahead of South Africa tour

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:05 GMT

    MS looks knackered. His form is suffering. Give him a break. Wat is more important - another round of ODIs v NZ, or the eagerly anticipated series v SthAfrica ? We need Dhoni to be at his mentally sharpest & best form v Sth Africa. Stop moping about too much IPL, CL cricket - who cares that is in the past, we need to prepare for future ventures

  • on November 19, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    with his batting form, why does he need rest?