Australia v England, 2nd Test, Adelaide November 29, 2010

Bollinger and Harris added to Test squad

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Ricky Ponting has told Australia's first-Test bowlers that none of them are safe for Adelaide, but Mitchell Johnson and Ben Hilfenhaus have the most to fear after Doug Bollinger and Ryan Harris were added to the 13-man squad. The home attack managed only one wicket in the second innings at the Gabba as England pummelled 517, with Johnson, Hilfenhaus and Xavier Doherty struggling for impact.

Johnson was the most disappointing as he went wicket-less for the first time in his Test career, while Hilfenhaus peaked with his breakthrough from the third ball of the opening morning. Bollinger is a left-arm fast man who was Australia's best bowler of the past year and Harris is an expert at gaining conventional and reverse swing, which could be a huge asset in Adelaide from Friday.

Johnson has never been dropped from the Test team but is the most vulnerable man as the teams fly south-west on Tuesday. Ponting said the bowler remained in a "reasonably positive" state of mind but "was not at his best". "I don't think anyone is certain yet," Ponting said. "The fact we have brought two fast bowlers in, I'm not sure if anyone is certain."

Johnson's bowling has been faltering for most of the winter and he was one of the players who was put on notice when the original 17-man squad was named for Brisbane. After responding with five wickets and a century for Western Australia, he suffered a quick relapse at the Gabba.

He delivered 42 overs for 170 runs during the match and struggled with his speed and accuracy. While he is a player who gets better with more work, there were few promising signs.

"I'm not singling one person out, because I don't think any of our bowlers were at their absolute best," Ponting said. "It's all about working in a group and working in partnerships, and I don't think we did that enough. We've got a lot of work to do as a group."

Peter Siddle was the most successful Australian bowler but even he failed to follow up his six-wicket opening on Thursday with a second-innings wicket. The pitch flattened out and England dominated, leaving Andrew Strauss's stumping off Marcus North as the only success of a demoralising second innings for the hosts. Still, the draw did end a three-match losing streak, which was their worst sequence since 1988.

Australia now have three days to finalise a Plan B as they prepare to face a pitch in Adelaide that is traditionally made for batsmen. Playing back-to-back Tests is a concern for both teams, although England gained extra recovery time by having their tough bowling days on Friday and Saturday. "If we get a flat wicket in Adelaide again," Ponting said, "we have to make sure we are a whole lot better than we were in this game."

Harris and Bollinger were both picked in the inflated first-Test squad before being released due to fitness doubts. Harris, who moved from South Australia three seasons ago, was cut because he had only just returned from a chronic knee injury, which had sent him home from England before the Pakistan series in July.

He convinced the selectors of his durability with four wickets in a one-day game for Queensland and six more in the Sheffield Shield fixture against Victoria that ended today. Ponting is a huge supporter, having seen Harris' tireless work during his first two Tests against New Zealand in March.

"There's a lot to like about Ryan," Ponting said. "The fact he's had great success at international cricket, he's one of the guys just meant to be playing."

Bollinger's lack of bowling since picking up a stomach strain in India led the selectors to settle on Siddle for the first Test. It was a controversial decision until Siddle stormed to six wickets on the opening day, including a hat-trick. Bollinger will be released a day early from New South Wales' Shield fixture against Western Australia in Perth.

Australia squad Shane Watson, Simon Katich, Ricky Ponting (capt), Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey, Marcus North, Brad Haddin, Mitchell Johnson, Xavier Doherty, Peter Siddle, Ben Hilfenhaus, Ryan Harris, Doug Bollinger.

Peter English is the Australasia editor of Cricinfo

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  • BigGeorgeMehemood on December 1, 2010, 14:01 GMT

    Austrailia are finished just like we West Indies. We in WI had very, very dirty management for a long time even though we had we good players dem. We had some hard-coconut head knuckey head man dem from de islands running the show. Now dem have to pay.

  • Vilander on November 30, 2010, 19:18 GMT

    @ Satish/Viper, Jadoo (means magic) also called Jadeja is one of a kind in a billion. He is superior to North in the art of doing just about enough at a very tricky and thinly covered (resource vise) position in the current national 11, just..just about enough to hang on by the the very nanno tip of the left hands little finger...Jadoo is Jadoo..North doesnt even come close in this great art, some said Jadoo had perfected it, till the indian selectors found it.

  • hstrawson on November 30, 2010, 19:07 GMT

    australia need to refrain from launching into a witch hunt every time something goes wrong and allow time for the squad to gel and develop as a team. England, for example, has endeavoured with the likes of Broad, Cook and Collingwood even when their form is poor. As a result, England have a far stronger unit with a real sense of unity, while Australia's set up is rife with fragility and uncertainty. A squad's strength is as dependent on a sense of unity and faith in its players, as it is on individual's own skill and form.

  • Deepkar on November 30, 2010, 14:44 GMT

    1)katich, 2)watson, 3)ponting, 4)clark, 5)hussy, 6)haddin, 7)north, 8)johnson, 9)harris, 10)siddle, 11)bolinger very good team north batting allrounder, johnson bowling allrounder. Team with .6 batsmans, 4 bowlers, 1wk 1 bowler can bat (johnson) 4 batsmanr can bowl (watson, katich, north, clark) 1 wk more than good batsman. dont u think SLA bowler who can't truble peterson is useless. Halfenhaus bettert in eng or subcontinant not in aus with 4 pacers decresed workload for watson & can conc. On batting. Try this best possible combo that i think.

  • Viper2.0 on November 30, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    @ Satish.V lol guess at least North has a decent career test record.Whereas Sir Ravindra Jadeja doesn't even boast anything like that :D

  • SUNDOS on November 30, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    One has never seen an Australian bowling attack look so toothless and inept.So many years of domination meant a whole generation of cricketers missed out on a chance to play and now the effects are being seen.The Austrailan media in particular needs to show a little patience.The Australian slectors need to throw out the old theory of picking the best batsman as captain.Get a "peoples expert' a la Brearly or even a Bob Simpson figure who will over the next two years mould a new team. Surely the emergeing players the under 22's must have in their ranks a set of bowlers.And Brett Lee,get back to your day job.

  • Vasi-Koosi on November 30, 2010, 11:46 GMT

    Australia has missed a generation in both departments of pace & spin. Johnson is leading an attack which should have been by Lee. A workload of a bowler in tests is 20 overs a day. When you have someone like Lee, you can definitely work out a schedule where he generally bowls 15 overs and goes to 17-20 if it is absolutely needed. They are missing guidance on the field for Johnson when he is erratic or Johnson even if he is not bowling well, needs to guide someone like Siddle who is taking a hat-trick and 6 wickets... For all the planning the aussies are supposed to be good at, they went really wrong in two things; Retirement of Gilli & Hayden; Both of them had at the least 2-3 years in them. When your wicket-keeper and your leading bowler are new you are in for chaos. Australia, is having a new keeper every series. On the whole, no point blaming the folks on the field; The backroom folks need to take the blame, of course the captain cannot be spared.

  • Vasi-Koosi on November 30, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    The squad is the best from Australia. What needs to be done is clip off the arrogance. Arrogance reeks in its ranks, there needs to be a humility when you play a game, even if you are the best. This needs to be started from the top with Punter. Gone are the days that you show up for Australia and you are winning a game. Yes, great players from Australia did have a big mouth, they backed it up with performance. When you are struggling to bowl stump to stump, you can't let your mouth loose targeting the opposing captain. Look what England has done, they are not talking about mind games, they are not talking about the opposition, They are not even talking about winning the series. They are talking about Standing up and being counted. They have translated a lot of it into action. All the mind games is a distraction, it works when you are at your best. When you are not, it is better to focus on your game. The faster they learn, the better it will be for Australia and Cricket as a game

  • pie314 on November 30, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    why the obsession for youth??? Bring back stuart clark, who has an awesome record against england (he won the 4th ashes test in 09 singlehandedly for aus) and bowls a great line and length CONSISTENTLY. Every ball he bowls is a potential wicket taking one, and even if he doesn't take many wickets, he only concedes 1-2 runs an over. He was the NEW mcgrath when mcgrath retired, and had similar successes.

  • ashes61 on November 30, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Shocked rigid at booing of Ponting by Aussie spectators. Apart from being no way to behave at a cricket match, can't these morons see past their own noses? He'ss been holding the team together for three years. There is still no sign of a coming generation and Australia's current plight - not just the loss of the Ashes - certainly can't be laid at his door. Oz is lucky to have such a player. As a bat he is still by far the best they have. As a captain he is hardly a tactical genius, but has great courage & leads by example. We Poms know he is all that stands between England and a very comfortable series win.

    Even allowing for a draw being odds-on by the 5th day, and it being a working day, and that 5th day tickets are probably not sold in advance, the stay-away by Aussie fans from "fortress Gabba" was incomprehensible. It clearly contributed to their players' demoralisation & disintegration - hence Ponting's remarks about the Oval, which hopefully embarrassed the fans.

  • BigGeorgeMehemood on December 1, 2010, 14:01 GMT

    Austrailia are finished just like we West Indies. We in WI had very, very dirty management for a long time even though we had we good players dem. We had some hard-coconut head knuckey head man dem from de islands running the show. Now dem have to pay.

  • Vilander on November 30, 2010, 19:18 GMT

    @ Satish/Viper, Jadoo (means magic) also called Jadeja is one of a kind in a billion. He is superior to North in the art of doing just about enough at a very tricky and thinly covered (resource vise) position in the current national 11, just..just about enough to hang on by the the very nanno tip of the left hands little finger...Jadoo is Jadoo..North doesnt even come close in this great art, some said Jadoo had perfected it, till the indian selectors found it.

  • hstrawson on November 30, 2010, 19:07 GMT

    australia need to refrain from launching into a witch hunt every time something goes wrong and allow time for the squad to gel and develop as a team. England, for example, has endeavoured with the likes of Broad, Cook and Collingwood even when their form is poor. As a result, England have a far stronger unit with a real sense of unity, while Australia's set up is rife with fragility and uncertainty. A squad's strength is as dependent on a sense of unity and faith in its players, as it is on individual's own skill and form.

  • Deepkar on November 30, 2010, 14:44 GMT

    1)katich, 2)watson, 3)ponting, 4)clark, 5)hussy, 6)haddin, 7)north, 8)johnson, 9)harris, 10)siddle, 11)bolinger very good team north batting allrounder, johnson bowling allrounder. Team with .6 batsmans, 4 bowlers, 1wk 1 bowler can bat (johnson) 4 batsmanr can bowl (watson, katich, north, clark) 1 wk more than good batsman. dont u think SLA bowler who can't truble peterson is useless. Halfenhaus bettert in eng or subcontinant not in aus with 4 pacers decresed workload for watson & can conc. On batting. Try this best possible combo that i think.

  • Viper2.0 on November 30, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    @ Satish.V lol guess at least North has a decent career test record.Whereas Sir Ravindra Jadeja doesn't even boast anything like that :D

  • SUNDOS on November 30, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    One has never seen an Australian bowling attack look so toothless and inept.So many years of domination meant a whole generation of cricketers missed out on a chance to play and now the effects are being seen.The Austrailan media in particular needs to show a little patience.The Australian slectors need to throw out the old theory of picking the best batsman as captain.Get a "peoples expert' a la Brearly or even a Bob Simpson figure who will over the next two years mould a new team. Surely the emergeing players the under 22's must have in their ranks a set of bowlers.And Brett Lee,get back to your day job.

  • Vasi-Koosi on November 30, 2010, 11:46 GMT

    Australia has missed a generation in both departments of pace & spin. Johnson is leading an attack which should have been by Lee. A workload of a bowler in tests is 20 overs a day. When you have someone like Lee, you can definitely work out a schedule where he generally bowls 15 overs and goes to 17-20 if it is absolutely needed. They are missing guidance on the field for Johnson when he is erratic or Johnson even if he is not bowling well, needs to guide someone like Siddle who is taking a hat-trick and 6 wickets... For all the planning the aussies are supposed to be good at, they went really wrong in two things; Retirement of Gilli & Hayden; Both of them had at the least 2-3 years in them. When your wicket-keeper and your leading bowler are new you are in for chaos. Australia, is having a new keeper every series. On the whole, no point blaming the folks on the field; The backroom folks need to take the blame, of course the captain cannot be spared.

  • Vasi-Koosi on November 30, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    The squad is the best from Australia. What needs to be done is clip off the arrogance. Arrogance reeks in its ranks, there needs to be a humility when you play a game, even if you are the best. This needs to be started from the top with Punter. Gone are the days that you show up for Australia and you are winning a game. Yes, great players from Australia did have a big mouth, they backed it up with performance. When you are struggling to bowl stump to stump, you can't let your mouth loose targeting the opposing captain. Look what England has done, they are not talking about mind games, they are not talking about the opposition, They are not even talking about winning the series. They are talking about Standing up and being counted. They have translated a lot of it into action. All the mind games is a distraction, it works when you are at your best. When you are not, it is better to focus on your game. The faster they learn, the better it will be for Australia and Cricket as a game

  • pie314 on November 30, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    why the obsession for youth??? Bring back stuart clark, who has an awesome record against england (he won the 4th ashes test in 09 singlehandedly for aus) and bowls a great line and length CONSISTENTLY. Every ball he bowls is a potential wicket taking one, and even if he doesn't take many wickets, he only concedes 1-2 runs an over. He was the NEW mcgrath when mcgrath retired, and had similar successes.

  • ashes61 on November 30, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Shocked rigid at booing of Ponting by Aussie spectators. Apart from being no way to behave at a cricket match, can't these morons see past their own noses? He'ss been holding the team together for three years. There is still no sign of a coming generation and Australia's current plight - not just the loss of the Ashes - certainly can't be laid at his door. Oz is lucky to have such a player. As a bat he is still by far the best they have. As a captain he is hardly a tactical genius, but has great courage & leads by example. We Poms know he is all that stands between England and a very comfortable series win.

    Even allowing for a draw being odds-on by the 5th day, and it being a working day, and that 5th day tickets are probably not sold in advance, the stay-away by Aussie fans from "fortress Gabba" was incomprehensible. It clearly contributed to their players' demoralisation & disintegration - hence Ponting's remarks about the Oval, which hopefully embarrassed the fans.

  • boooonnie on November 30, 2010, 9:31 GMT

    TMMC you' ve got it! The selectors have got to head overthe Indian ocean and grab some disfranchised fringe test players from South Africa! If you cant beat them join them.

  • Meety on November 30, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    @ rohanbala - the booing was from the Barmy Army. @ Gilly4ever - not a bad idea to drop North for a bowler - I'd bring in O'Keefe & Bollinger & give Doherty a rest. @Nerk - maybe bat North @8 as the frontline spinner! @ Dax75 - true! @ Herbet - whilst I don't think Watson is a frontline bowler he is way better then Collingwood as a bowler. Watto averages 2 wickets a game & takes a wicket every 56 balls, Collingwood averages a wicket every 4 matches @ S/R of 66. Collingwood is a batsmen who can bowl a little, Watto is a batting allrounder. @ seagrip - nice looking team, I can see the screams of NSW bias, I like Faulkner but I think Butterworth would have more claims, pity AB Mac is injured. @M.Ed - I like Katich's chinamen but I think he has a back problem like Clarke. @ redneck - true, I think there will be life in this pitch, if it stays cloudy, it won't be too good for spinners. @asillypoint - Oz can & will bowl Eng out twice in this series. Haddin > Prior!

  • Australia17594 on November 30, 2010, 6:43 GMT

    @ rohanbala The crowd was 99% Poms so yeh...

    Biixx is correct, clarke is injured let him rest and put him back under hussey and put in the other hussey in place of north...

    Hmm... White, D. Hussey, O'Keefe, Smith so many choices for the australian selectors but obviously they can take out the vics as usual.

  • c5nv2838a47i on November 30, 2010, 6:25 GMT

    I'm not just waiting for Steve O'Keefe to be selected to represent Australia, I'm also waiting for him to be selected by NSW!

  • ratnakar.chetan on November 30, 2010, 6:22 GMT

    Mitch was to bowl bouncers to strauss, well he mentioned that before match. Dont know what went wrong??

  • rohanbala on November 30, 2010, 6:08 GMT

    While watching the Gabba test on TV, it was sad and surprising to hear that the crowd booed the Australian captain Ricky Ponting. It is all the more baffling to note this sort of behaviour from the crowds particularly at the captain who at most times has contributed to the team's cause unlike non-performers like Marcus North and Michael Clarke. What can Ricky Ponting do when his batsmen North and Clarke continue to score only single digit scores and when his main strike bowler Mitchell Johnson bowls to imaginary stumps on either side of the three visible ones?

  • Biixx on November 30, 2010, 6:02 GMT

    Honestly, these calls to drop Clarke are ridiculous. The kid has a great average, was our best player in the last Ashes campaign, he showed good form domestically (but then hurt his back) EVEN when the touted up and comers failed to do anything.

    He should only be dropped in the next test if his back is still troubling him. He's had some poor form coming into the series, but that's the tale with most of the Aussie squad. Just some people dislike the person not the game he plays, and its a shame to be brutally honest.

  • chokkashokka on November 30, 2010, 5:58 GMT

    what a snooze-fest....remind me again why this series is just all the attention? two teams living in the shadows of their predecessor's greatness and offering a ho-hum contest - why exactly is everyone is writing about it like it is going out of fashion. Can we fast forward to December 16 already? And I hope I'm not censored for voicing my opinion.

  • asillypoint on November 30, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    @popcorn The difference between the two sides has shown up already. Just open your eyes (and your mind), Australia have about as much chance of bowling England out twice as a chocolate teapot.

    Far from clear England actually need an all-rounder, although Matt Prior has a test batting average greater than Watson and could certainly be considered as an all-rounder in that sense.

  • Hodra99 on November 30, 2010, 5:38 GMT

    @Sweno...Lee is retired from test cricket...my 12 in batting order for Adelaide is Watson, Katich, Ponting, Clarke, M Hussey, D Hussey, Haddin, Harris, Doherty, Siddle, Bollinger, 12th Hilfenhaus. North has no credits left, and D Hussey is just as capable a spin bowling option as North and has a wonderful 1st class record (averages over 55 with the bat) over a long period of time. Johnson is a broken man, and Hilfy whilst an honest bowler, is never going to take a bag of wickets. All is not lost for the Aussies , and if they make the couple of necessary changes they should still win the ashes 3-1.

  • ContentmentISGood on November 30, 2010, 5:33 GMT

    Who selects the aussie hopeless selectors? Isn't it us people? We should go to election on this issue. The reason aussies are not going to the stadium for matches is they are too embarrassed with the players. Selectors got rocks in their head if Johnson goes to Adelaide.

  • Amjad_Bukhari on November 30, 2010, 5:31 GMT

    Surely Drop Mitchell and Hilfe. Bollinger can swing the ball, better pace than Mitch presently and can get bounce. he can remove any left handed opener in the start, either strauss or cook. Hilfe is good but chance should b given to Ryan. they both can strike better than mitch and hilfe. But its warnining whisstle for Aussies, 517 for 1 wicket by Eng and four regular bowlers wicketless for aaussies.

  • rohanbala on November 30, 2010, 5:18 GMT

    To handyandy.... Marcus North needs to be dropped into the River Torrens atleast till the ashes series is over, to enable other deserving players get a chance in the playing XI.

  • Pradeeps_Speed on November 30, 2010, 5:04 GMT

    Very simple, bring back Warnie and McGrath. The duo are still better than these young bowling machines who only bowl and don't use their heads. I bet Warne and McGrath can still induce a lot of damage to the England batting :).

  • jonesy2 on November 30, 2010, 4:30 GMT

    coming on here and reading the comments that people who have obviously never watched cricket post is always a good laugh. cricinfo you always provide a good giggle

  • dilgara on November 30, 2010, 3:15 GMT

    Since the troubles between his mother and girl friend, Johnson has not able to perform. I think he should be dropped and work out his personal problems. Also I like to see Clarke and North dropped and replaced by Khawaja and Steve Smith. Both these players had done enough to warrant a call up to the Australian Team. Bollinger should replaced Johnson and Harris to replaced Doherty with Smith taking up the spinner role. Australia needs to groom these younger player and the vice captain role should be given to Khatich or Hussey

  • on November 30, 2010, 3:01 GMT

    I think the selectors are suffering a bad bout of common sensitis-if someone isn't going well drop him maybe?? Perhaps andrew hilditch should be the 1 dropped? Johnston and Hilfenhaus 4 Bollinger and Harris 4 sure

  • benny81 on November 30, 2010, 2:40 GMT

    The selectors should replace Johnson with Bollinger and North with Harris.

    Personally I'd pick Hughes, put Watson in North's spot (and drop North), pick Bollinger instead of Johnson and Harris to replace Doherty. Forget spin until we have a spinner worthy enough!

    Here's a team to win the ashes: Katich, Hughes, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Watson, Haddin, Harris, Bolly, Sidds, Hilfy.

  • Riggy on November 30, 2010, 2:17 GMT

    Johnson needs his confidence back, he didn't look near as fierce as he use to be. And cameron white or shaun marsh in for micheal clarke, his back must be real bad cause he could bearly hit a ball in his 9 run 50 ball innings. Harris will ultimately come in for either johnson or hilfenhaus. not sure xavier is the new spinner answer australia wants, okeefe should be givin a go and if he doesnt work. then will have to use North as our full time part timer.

  • Jafar-raza on November 30, 2010, 2:09 GMT

    This is the good thing to bring Bollinger and Harris back in test squad and drop siddle and Johnson i think they need time to get good comeback in test cricket because Bollinger and Harris are fast bowler.The thing about siddle is that he have a luck in 1st innings other wise every batsmen can hit him every quick. Also drop Michael Clarke and bring the new youngster Usman khawaja in the batting line up that's good team now

  • Ryteo on November 30, 2010, 2:02 GMT

    The time has come for Australia's selectors to realise that we no longer have Warne and McGrath who can win us test matches. Simply put we are going to be average until we find a spinner and fast bowler who can play 100 test matches for Australia or a wunderkid batsmen who can average 70+ for a few years. I like Hussey but he is 35, North is not much younger and Michael Clarke is one back injury away from retirement. We need to go through a period of 2 years of pain by injecting younger players into the team, we don't have any young players in the team full stop. These players need to be given an extended period of time to gel and improve at the top level. We only want 1 player over 30yrs old who cares if we lose this ashes series we really need to have a team ready to beat them in UK in 4 years time, Hughes, Katich, Ponting, Ferguson, Watson,Haddin, Smith, O'keefe, Harris, Hilfy, Bollinger, then keep Johnson, Siddle, Copeland, George, Starc, Khawaja, Paine & Butterworth in the wings

  • Rusty_1 on November 30, 2010, 2:01 GMT

    Johnson has to go - bring in Bollinger. Clarke, Katich et al. have been previously dropped back to shield cricket & it didn't hurt them did it? Johnson needs a few shield games to get his mojo back. He is averaging > 40 this year & looking woeful. No speed & no swing. Bollinger has been the best bowler for Australia in the past 12-months. The stats don't lie. When Bollinger has not played, we have not won. Simple. I am sure I will be howled down for this, but Harris HAS to replace Siddle. Siddle blows too hot and cold - great when he gets it right for the odd spell and absolutley ordinary when he doesn't. His return to shield cricket / ODI's this year was ordinary and he also averages 40 this year - even including the 6-wicket haul in the first innings. Harris has taken 19-wickets in his last 3 games. Leave the batting alone for the moment, however North will be playing for his spot in either SA or WA. Hilfy, Harris & Bolly, with North & Doherty as left / right spin combo.

  • Dashgar on November 30, 2010, 1:05 GMT

    Bollinger and Harris for Johnson and Hilfenhaus. Our team balance will be identical as Harris can also bat a bit to cover for Johnson. Both these bowlers are in form and the two they replace are not. Harris and Bollinger never would have been dropped if not for injuries, their records at every level internationally is the best in the country.

  • katandthat3 on November 30, 2010, 1:04 GMT

    Glad Harris and Bollinger are in the squad. I really like watching Johnson play but he's such a sad sack at the moment that he needs to get dropped back to Shield. Same with North, when going he's great to watch but unfortunately with the side down on a bit of confidence, they need more from him. I know Khawaja, Ferguson and Hughes are the future but I'd like to see them pick Shaun Marsh at 5 or 6. He's scored 2 or 3 hundreds already as well as two 80's this season. Clarke shouldn't have played and still don't think he should be picked for Adelaide as he's not 100%. Got some work to do but the series isn't over for the aussies as some might think after the poms comeback. It was a great test.

  • OldAjay on November 30, 2010, 0:51 GMT

    Johnson needs to go back and work on his wrist delivery position. He is all over the place so is not reliable at the moment. Bollinger in for Johnson - leftie for leftie and not losing speed or aggression. North is there supposedly as an all-rounder to give good balance to the side. He is supposed to be scoring runs as part of that deal. Substitute Ryan Harris for North. Harris can score some runs - certainly as many as North has been scoring lately, but you get a much better and more versatile bowler than North will ever be. He gives much many more bowling options for Ponting and we have had trouble getting people out lately.

  • TMMC on November 30, 2010, 0:50 GMT

    How long can we tolerate the weak-minded Johnson? We used to be able to laugh at the Poms for their weak-mindedness (Trescothick, Harmison, etc) - now the joke's on us. England has toughened up mentally now by importing South Africans, Ashes cricket is no place the emotionally frail, especially now.

  • landl47 on November 30, 2010, 0:46 GMT

    I love gilly4ever's team- five seam bowlers, a left-arm spinner who doesn't turn the ball and a tail starting at #7. I think Australia should go with that side. Of course, I'm an England supporter. I really don't see the point of calling up Harris and Bollinger and keeping both Hilfenhaus and Johnson in the squad (presumably Siddle is safe since the other two got 1 for over 300 between them in the Gabba test) unless one of the four is an injury risk. The selectors know what these bowlers can do, it's not as though they are young kids. Harris is 31 and Bollinger is 29. As for North, they'd like to drop him, but since he was the only bowler who got a wicket in England's second innings, he has to stay to bowl. Besides, if he follows his usual pattern, he'll get runs in the 4th test.

  • smudgeon on November 30, 2010, 0:04 GMT

    Why not push North down the order and make him the new Greg Matthews? Seriously, though, drop Johnson for Bollinger and you've got half the battle won. The next thing would be to drop North for Khawaja (sooner rather than later), give Clarke a test or two off to fully recover from his back pain and bring in Hughes at #5 as an understudy for Katich (remember when future openers used to cut their teeth in the middle order?). Heh, it's always fun to be an armchair selector...can't imagine how tough it would be to be the real thing with half the country thinking they can do a better job and the other half just wanting you to pick their favourite Shield cricketer. I don't think the bowlers (barring Johnson, who is in hideous form) did a bad job, that pitch was a batsman's delight from day 3 onwards - wholesale bowling changes not necessary...

  • crow_eater on November 29, 2010, 23:51 GMT

    I remember when Hilditch cemented his test positon when he married Bob Simpsons daughter. Is North engaged to Hiditches daughter???? Only reason I can see that he's still there!

  • PTtheAxis on November 29, 2010, 23:09 GMT

    so pidge's 5-0 scoreline already needs adjusting ... wonder when he would be raising his head again ... england were just one wicket away at winning this match at 5/143 ... luck/umpiring/dodgy use of technology by the home broadcasters will not always save the aussies

  • redneck on November 29, 2010, 22:39 GMT

    those calling for 2 spinners in the aussie team for adelaide, its too early in the season! last year adelaide had a heat wave in november making the pitch dry, no such heat this year. harris would be a smart pick for the adelaide test given hes played majority of his first class carrer at the ground and therefor knows how to get wickets there. mitch might have to go back to WA and re-master his craft as hes gone from hero to zero in the last 2 years. at his best hes a walk up start but he hasnt shown his best in some time. also if the selectors want to axe north like the rest of the nation do, that would be a step in the right direction!

  • PAKISFANI on November 29, 2010, 22:36 GMT

    Australian team's fielding in the 1st test was AVERAGE at best and not much better than Pakistan; what a quick decline in quality, MINDBOGLING!!!!

  • Murgy on November 29, 2010, 22:28 GMT

    Drop Johnson for Harris!!! Form is unacceptable!!!

  • dieforcric on November 29, 2010, 22:10 GMT

    @zippydingdong: completely agree with u on North and Clarke. I really dont know what Clarke is doing in the side...But I still support Johnson. It was just bad days for him in the office, he will get into the action soon...

  • SmashingBaby on November 29, 2010, 22:09 GMT

    In England's 2nd innings the pitch was flat and the bowlers were all off, but I think Ricky Ponting must take his share of the blame. He has always been a conservative captain in his fielding tactics - when the batting side are 1/400 I just can't understand the logic of having only 1 slip. Too bad if the bowler's aren't at their best, they are strike fast bowlers for the Australian test team! Ricky should have had a 7-2 field with 3 slips and 2 gullies and a huge gap at cover for the entire innings, and said to the quicks "bowl just outside off stump for 5 balls, then throw one up either outside off or on middle stump for 1 ball" - sure they would have hit some 4's through cover (they did anyway!!) but eventually there would have been an edge.

  • bjdaley on November 29, 2010, 21:47 GMT

    Aussies finished today pretty strongly, I thought. If I had an hour to bowl a team out to win, I'd take it - not shake hands and walk off! Katich played a ball he should have left - Colly dropped a simple chance and Punter was batting his way back into form....all at 5-6 runs an over.....that's why the Poms wanted to get off! Get behind your team people, they need your support. Could you support this team? In batting order......1. Watson, 2. Hughes, 3. Marsh, 4. Ponting, 5. Hussey, 6. Haddin 7. Smith/O'Keefe/Doherty (all good - take your pick), 8. Harris, 9. Hilfenhaus, 10. Siddle, 11. Bollinger. Pressure to perform provided by Katich, Johnson, Clarke, George, Ferguson, Khawaj(sic) and others......Car'n Australia!

  • OutdoorMiner on November 29, 2010, 21:15 GMT

    Watson, Katich, Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, Khawaja, Haddin, O'Keefe, Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger. Idealy this would be the team Australia should play. Hard on Doherty who didn't bowl badly just didn't look threatening, fires them in instead of tempting the batsmen and should stick to ODIs. North should be forgotten. Johnson forgotten untill he can bowl fast and threaten the stumps/helmets/gloves once again. England looked settled

  • the_blue_android on November 29, 2010, 20:34 GMT

    Philip Hughes is not in the team for the last one year as Ricky Ponting thinks his record for most test runs by an Aussie player will be beaten by Philip in about 10 years time and wants to keep him out of the team as much as he can. Hauritz is not in the team as Ricky wants a spinner who can follow his orders regardless they work or not. Rug isn't in the team as Ricky hates him for playing in the IPL and champions leage(ricky got kicked out of ipl and cpl).

    There you go. three out of 11 are picked as they are Ricky's sidekicks...this team is going down!

  • Barnacles on November 29, 2010, 20:21 GMT

    Unless Dougie is seriously injured, his inclusion is a must. Bowling partnerships require consistent line and length; there was no pressure on the English in Brisbane because there were always easy pickings at one end (usually both). Mitchell Johnson needs some time out of the spotlight to work on his consistency. Tolerance of his erratic ways sends the wrong message to the youngsters in the country. Glenn McGrath built his success on a high arm and metronomic accuracy, not express pace and an occasional unplayable ball.

  • brucee41 on November 29, 2010, 19:57 GMT

    how much longer do we have to put up with Marcus North ? its well past the time he was sent packing south, permanently. The Aust team has gone backwards with no middle order strength since he came in at 6 (and done nothing) and Hussey pushed up to 4 (and done nothing) to make way for him - when will the selectors wake up ?

  • SL234 on November 29, 2010, 19:23 GMT

    reckon Vipers right that moustache makes him look reallyy weird

  • anikbrad on November 29, 2010, 18:58 GMT

    Same team will win put the bowlers - HARIS, BOLLINGER, SIDLE AND NATHAN WITH WHITE REPLACING NORTH. this very team will perform differently. hilfanhaus bowls well but never is a bowler who will destroy. but harris can and Borringer will do so.

  • the_silent_observer on November 29, 2010, 18:31 GMT

    All the comments/posts here clearly indicate one thing: that Australia has descended to the 'mortal' level, like every other team in the world. From the days, where the discussion board was crammed with subtle and not-so-subtle barbs at the Englishmen (and other teams), we seem to have come to a stage, where a draw in one match has set off reactions of a seismic proportion !! One does not know if this descent of Australia is good or bad, as I always fancied watching the "Godly" Australian team (even with its quota of sledging, one-up-man-ship and not-so-fair practices !!) for the sheer pleasure of witnessing a clinical performance and never-say die spirit !!

  • srivatsan on November 29, 2010, 18:00 GMT

    @@zippydingdong, I agree with you completely. Clarke has been in such a poor form lately and he is going unnoticed. I'd like batting/bowling selections be the same. Why should North and Clarke enjoy when Johnson is dropped..

  • CleanTactics on November 29, 2010, 17:34 GMT

    Australia Cricket management has always known to persist with players not at their best. The curse of a McGill, Haddin and other players who had to wait for so long (and many others who perished fighting for a place) is haunting Australian cricket now. They just dont know how to handle the absence of McGrath, Warne, Gilly or Hayden. Ultimately was Hayden given a Aroyal exit? NO. If they dont play new players frequently the fate of Australian cricket will not improve over the next 1-2 years. Khwaja or David Hussey are good bets. England definitely have an upper hand this Ashes. Australia will be more like trying to save grace by avoiding a terrible score line. Just my opinion though. Katich, Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Khwaja, Smith, Haddin, Harris, Bollinger and Siddle would be my team for the 2nd Test.

  • Piyush_Advani on November 29, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Johnson and Clarke should be rested,they've been playing for a long while now.Bring Brett Lee out of retirement for one final test series.Harris,Dougie,Hilfy and Lee are the best pace attack with North as the spinner.I still remember Brett Lee bowling to Andrew Flintoff and uprooting his off stump in 2005.Missing those days when we had fast men like McGrath,Bond,Lee,Pollock and so on.Good to see Punter back in form.Go Aussie!

  • Percy_Fender on November 29, 2010, 16:13 GMT

    The Gabba wicket was the villian of the piece really. There is no need for Australia to press the panic button just as yet even if it is comforting to know that Bollinger and Harris have been added to the list. This shows that they are fit. Though I would have liked Hauritz back in place of Doherty, I think it is a case of old world nepotism with Doherty being from Tasmania that he is the chosen one. Adelaide needs two spinners and two pace bowlers capable of reverse swing.Harris should definitely be in the final XI if he is capable of reversing. Hifenhaus too can do likewise. Which means both Siddle and Johnson face the prospect of being dropped. I was surprised that Siddle took 6 wickets in the England first innings because I have never been convinced that he is a wicket taking matchwinner. He is just the long toothed workhorse capable of running in all day with nothing to show but that wonderful smile of his.The toss will not make much of a difference at Adelaide.

  • kitten on November 29, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    'What does North have to do to be dropped?'...drop a few 'dolly' catches as well, both innings!! And in the process, stub his toe, and leave the field. Ha ha!! In all honesty, this test was a farce as far as Australia goes. I can't believe that the Aussies who were brilliant just a few years ago, a good few notches above the rest, have fallen below sea level. What a shame. I realise it is rebuilding process-time, but let's make a few drastic changes before the series is over. Drop Johnson immediately, and also give Clarke a rest until he has recovered fully from his injury. Bollinger and Ferguson can be drafted into the team. Hilfenhaus can be given a 'rest', and of course Harris can take his place. This team certainly can't fare any worse that what the world saw in England's second innings. One wicket for over 500 runs...I don't recall seeing any score in test cricket over the years that resembled anything like this. Let's hope the second test is not another fiasco.

  • keavivek on November 29, 2010, 15:34 GMT

    Australian plight is summed up with the fact that their key man (Johnson) is yet to open his account in any department. Johnson is a good cricketer but unfortunately he has lost his self beleif. He should be rested along with North. Bollinger and White should come in.

  • DesiCricketfan on November 29, 2010, 15:28 GMT

    This Line from peter English "Australia now have three days to finalise a Plan B as they prepare to face a pitch in Adelaide that is traditionally made for BATSMEN." Are you telling all of us that Next match will be DRAW too. If this is true why Aussies are replacing the current bowlers, If this is batsmen friendly track then we can only see Records being broken. Only staisfaction is that Dougie is my favorite bowler and when he played in India for CSK he bpw;ed exceptionally well. If he can bowl on those tracks and take wickets He will do good here too. Watch England this will be good test for english. BUT the comment of batsmen friendly track scare the bowlers.I support England all the way as we do not want Australia to come anywhere near to the top ranking. I envy Australia as they are currently #1 ODI side.

  • srtt on November 29, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    What about the spinner? He didn't do much on what was supposed to be a helpful last day wicket. A more aggressive spinner should have been selected. If they intend on going with these defensive "spinners" then we might as well use North - or better yet SMITH IN for North and play Harris or Bollinger for Doerty and the fading Johnson.

    Regards, Shekar Ramlal WI

  • seagrip on November 29, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    Hughes, Jacques, Hussey (c), O'Keefe, Watson, Ponting, Haddin, Smith, McDonald, Harris, Bollinger. Faulkner 12th man. 6 bowlers and massive batting depth (McDonald at 9 averages 40). Or bring in Faulkner for Smith if theres no spin in the pitch. Get North out!!!

  • ABP235 on November 29, 2010, 15:08 GMT

    Aussies are doomed, gone. Just one selection. White for Clarke. They will never do this and till that time, they will never prosper. There appears to be some grudge against White. As an Indian, I thought Indians play this sort of politics, but just cant understand how pup can ever be captaining the Aussie side in the future! White is the man, to take over from Ponting. And Bollinger replacing Johnson should never be an issue. Aussies should also go with Harris for Doherty because apart from Warne, there hasnt ever been a full time spinner for the Aussies. And never there will be one, unless the Australian government changes its immigration rules and grants permanent citizenship to one of the many talented spin bowlers from India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka!!!

  • calypsocricket on November 29, 2010, 15:01 GMT

    Cook rightly belongs to the V.Captaincy of England. On the other hand, Clarke is becoming a joke to the Cricketing World. Honestly, does he look like a deputy to Ponting ? Australia will lose one of their best prospect in Cameron White, if they continue to ignore him. He should be Australia's Captain in the short forms of the game, and in training to be their Test leader under Ponting. Who in their right state of mind think Clarke can teach some-one to be a leader in years to come ?

  • Pintesh on November 29, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    Australian dominance to rule other teams has been attritioned now and therefore they need to wait and shuffle the team for coming years to get the spot back. Shuffling the players again for 2nd test is again a trial experiment which will not allow everyone to settle.

  • M.Ed on November 29, 2010, 14:27 GMT

    I always find it to be a bit perplexing that Ponting rarely uses Katich as a bowlers. In this last Test match despite the other bowlers failing to make an impact on England in the second innings Ponting did not use Katich.It think that Katich is a very interesting bowler that can give variety to an attack and he has the capability of confusing batsmen as there are so few left arm unothodox bowlers in the game .

  • Herbet on November 29, 2010, 14:21 GMT

    @ popcorn

    The 5th bowler, Watson, is the difference? Are you for real? What difference is that fat pie chucker trundling in and dropping the ball down at 75-80mph going to make on flat as hell pitches with not a cloud in the sky. If we were about to play in say, Derby, in April and it was forecast to be damp and the pitch was greener than Ponting's cap you might have a point but in this series, no. Even then that would be reliant on Watson actually being able to swing the ball, but he doesn't. England have a fifth seamer at about the same level as Watson, Collingwood.

  • Fareen on November 29, 2010, 14:20 GMT

    Harris is a must! North has to step up like Hussey though not sure he can do that.Doherty should play,you can't drop a player after only 1 test.I don't think Hilfenhaus should be dropped because he's a class bowler.

  • Herbet on November 29, 2010, 14:14 GMT

    Johnson has to go, he looks awful. I dont think Australia will drop him though a) because they're too embarassed to after hailing him as the new Wasim Akram and b) they dont seem to drop anyone, ever. I'm not sure Bollinger is any better than him but I do think Harris is. He is express pace and bowls full, just what is needed I would say. If I were Australia I'd drop this Doherty mellon as well and get Hauritz back in, I'd also drop North, move Watson down to No. 6 and open up with Hughes. England bowled well without luck in this game and should've had Australia out for about 100 less than they got first time round. Australia bowled and fielded terribly in England's second innings.

  • Dax75 on November 29, 2010, 14:10 GMT

    While Australia have their problems and all are loving writing about them, lets not forget that England didnt take a wicket for over a days play, and they were the number 5 and 6 batsman, not the openers, who should be making these scores. The pitch offered nothing after day 2, and these pitches are going to kill test cricket. Already seeing that in the supposed greatest cricketing nation on earth in India, where at least 14 people turn up to a test match each day, and half of them on free tickets. Give the bowlers from both sides a chance! Not everyone wants to see a run feast every day!

  • Samdanh on November 29, 2010, 14:02 GMT

    My suggestion for Adelaide will be (now that the squad has been finalised) Ryan Harris for Ben (I dont expect Ben, a swing bowler, to be effective in Adelaide), and Bollinger for Johnson.

    However, my ideal XI for Adelaide would be Phil Hughes, Phil Jaques, Ponting, Mike Hussey, Watson, Cameron White, Haddin, Nathan Hauritz, Bollinger, Ryan Harris, Siddle. Cameron White and Watson to share the 5th bowler load as track at Adelaide is expected to be another flat one. Aus needs some batsmen who are positive and can keep the scoreboard ticking and also who can do a bit of counter attacking, when required. Both the Phils, and White and Watson in the middle are capable of doing that.

  • CSpiers on November 29, 2010, 13:05 GMT

    Harris, Bollinger, Smith in - Johnson, Hilfenhaus, North, out = much stronger, more varied team.

  • Ringlin on November 29, 2010, 13:01 GMT

    Straight swap..Harris and Bollinger in for Johnson and Hilfenhaus. This is what should happen but I can't imagine the gutless selectors making such a bold move. My money's on an unchanged side, which will once again see us fail to take 20 wickets..hopefully I'm proved wrong on all counts.

  • redscricket on November 29, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    I forgot, if Marcus North doesn't make a century in the 1st innings in Adelaide, I don't care if he can bowl good off spin, drop him!!!!

  • Satish.V on November 29, 2010, 12:50 GMT

    I empathise with the Oz fans.North is the Aussie equivalent of Ravindra Jadeja.No way he is going to be dropped!

  • redscricket on November 29, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    Marcus North at least bowled good off spin. Doherty bowled left arm finger spin tripe! When has a left arm finger every got any wickets in Oz? Oh I forgot, Daniel Vettori, but he is a fantastic all round cricketer! I mean really Dohety came into the test side after one good 20/20 game and because Ricky thought highly of him after playing with him once. The man averages approx 45 in 1st class cricket! The dropping of Johnson is overdue, he can't bowl or bat at the moment and appears to have no confidence. So get Harris and Bollinger for Doherty and Johnson. Like several others Clarke continues to be a dissapointment, but I cannot see the selectors dropping the anointed one.

  • zippydingdong on November 29, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    Bollinger in for Johnson,simple.The tactics used in the 2nd bowling effort has to be under fire.The difference between the 2 bowling innings from Aus was the lengths and bowling to strengths.Why on earth were they not bowling as Cooks weakness his front foot you can set a field to it so easy.Australia will lose this series if the selectors dont grow some balls and drop Johnson,North and Clarke.

  • Sweno on November 29, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    Second Test 12 should be: Watson, Katich, Ponting(c), White (vc), M Hussey, S Smith, Haddin, O'Keefe, Harris, Lee, Doherty, Bollinger

  • Viper2.0 on November 29, 2010, 12:15 GMT

    Common Mitch get rid of your mustache and tattoo,your old form will return lolz!! :P

  • popcorn on November 29, 2010, 12:05 GMT

    Pretty simple choice. Mitchell Johnson will be dropped, Ryan Harris will come in. Hilfy is an asset.The difference between the two sides will show up sooner or later during The Ashes. The difference is the 5 th bowler - Seam Option,all rounder Shane Watson. England do not have an all rounder.

  • handyandy on November 29, 2010, 11:52 GMT

    What does North have to do to be dropped?

  • JAVEDATHERSURGEON on November 29, 2010, 11:49 GMT

    selectors plz drop johnson right now, plz dont wait till the series is over, how possibly can a team win when the spearhead of bowling attack is a liability. biggest reason- he went wicketless for the FIRST TIME in tests, drop hilfenhas as well who didnt look better than watson at any stage

  • Biixx on November 29, 2010, 11:28 GMT

    Like most here, I agree with the fact North should be swapped out with Khawaja or EVEN Hughes (his form has picked up in the last few matches compared to Usman & has previous Aus XI experience).

    As for the others: Clarke: Keep him. He shouldn't have been selected for the Brissy match due to his injury. Despite him passing the fitness test, it was still pretty poor from the selectors.

    Johnson/Hilfy: Im mixed with this. Both these guys on form are brutal. But both are in slumps (Hilfy still coming back from injury and Johnson ever since last Ashes). I would be tempted to give them both one more match, but its really 50/50.

    Doherty: Replace with O'Keefe. How this has NOT happened yet is beyond me! O'Keefe is young, incredibly talented and is a good spinner but much like Smith bats well too. Would help against the loss of Johnson's lower-batting form.

    There. Done.

  • Marcio on November 29, 2010, 11:24 GMT

    You can't select Mitchell Johnson after this. He is currently an embarrassment to the team. Honestly, he is the equivalent of an office employee coming in late, having a nervous breakdown (major issues), shouting at everyone, slobbering on his keyboard, then falling asleep. His employers have to get a reality check. Fire the dude! ("stay out - and get rid of that moustache!"). How could Bollinger or Harris possibly do any worse? Allan Davidson could send 'em down better - and he's been retired 50 years. Bad, bad, bad - no incompetent - management. If I was a shareholder, I'd be taking legal action. And I want my cable TV cricket subscription fee back!

  • Beertjie on November 29, 2010, 11:12 GMT

    I agree with you @ Dismayed especially about selectors being "too gutless and the team too proud to have honest inward appraisal." It doesn't look like this England team is going to provide us with a collapso during the series, but Australia can win back the Ashes and take on SA in October with some confidence IF CA/ selectors make the right choices NOW. Being able to spot talent and bring it along at the right time is what they're being paid to do. I agree with you @SuperFred2_Mania about Steve O'Keefe. Why couldn't both he and Smith have played at Adelaide TOGETHER with the pace trio of Harris, Bollinger and Siddle? Sure you'd lose the potential solidity of someone like Khawaja by going for Smith, but O'Keefe for Doherty would give you a potential batter at number 8, so Johnson won't be missed plus O'Keefe won't do worse than Doherty! Team for Perth: Watson, Katich, Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, Khawaja/Smith, Haddin, O'Keefe, Harris, Siddle/George, Bollinger. "Skipper" Ponting sucks!

  • Roshini on November 29, 2010, 11:08 GMT

    Opposition scoring 500 plus for a mere wicket down! Which planet are we living mate. Whether dead pitch or not this was unheard of in the past. It's scary times for Aussies. Pigeon must be ripping the hair off seeing the scoreboard. I think Australia needs to take a good honest look at themselves if they are to have any authority over England.

  • Bigbanger666 on November 29, 2010, 11:08 GMT

    @ Dismayed. I don't mind the look of that team at all.

  • stormy16 on November 29, 2010, 10:59 GMT

    If you didint look at the scorecard and read some of these articles one would imagine Aus lost the test. I think it was an even draw and has anyone forgotten Eng were bowled out for 260 in the first day? The wicket flatten out and both sides made +/- 500 - hey its not like some disaster. Yes Aus have some issues the most burning being Johnson (what has happened to this guy) and North but if you keep making calls on your bowlers based on performance on flat tracks good luck. Also of concern is Clark who played barely fit and looked lost. KP and Collinwood missed out on the first innings and have something to play for. Eng bolwing should be concerned that Aus made nearly 500.

  • Australia17594 on November 29, 2010, 10:54 GMT

    Oh dear... It's always the left handers that get it don't they??

    Hayden, hussey, North, johnson, doherty... Thank God Hussey centurised.Otherwise we'll be taking out nearly all the left hande

  • boris6491 on November 29, 2010, 10:52 GMT

    The bowlers didn't have a great time of it in the last couple of days but that being said, Johnson was a disaster the entire game. His bowling was unthreatening, wayward and in all, ineffective. This has really been what he has become infamous for in the past while, someone who does promise but is severely overrated. It is time to relegate him to the sidelines and bring back Bollinger, a man who did nothing wrong and lost his place for the first test. I rate Harris above Siddle but Siddle was impressive in the first innings and will undoubtedly retain his spot. I would still back Hilfenhaus as the new ball bowler as well considering that other than Watson, he is the only seamer in the current XI who can genuinely swing the ball. I would be extremely incensed though if Johnson does not make way for someone in the next test. Regardless of whether he performs or not, it would prove how inept the current selection committee is.

  • doosrazooter on November 29, 2010, 10:47 GMT

    Why isn't anyone blaming the useless, lifeless and pointless pitch? Seems to me now that now Warne, McGrath etc have retired, the Aussies are playing safe and creating dull pitches that won't produce a result.

    Same problem in India, where as Dhoni said, we will now require 10 days for pitches to deteriorate before we can expect a result.

  • Something_Witty on November 29, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    It does not matter what teams play in Adelaide. It will be 500 plays 500 plays 1/200. May as well call it a draw right now and head to Perth. - Although the pitch there in recent times has not been much better. Same with Melbourne, we could very well end up going into the 5th test in Sydney with the scoreline at 0-0.

  • aannuupp on November 29, 2010, 10:39 GMT

    if Aussies are to win the rest of the matches, they should remove marcus north with steven smith, hilfi and mitchie by bollinger and harris.. johnson has talents but at the moment he needs some time to gain his confidence from the domestic cricket..

  • JamalAJackson on November 29, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    Gilly4ever, I completely agree with you. I can't see North in because he only seems to do well overseas and same with Johnson.

  • 111WLS on November 29, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    I agree with Gilly4ever. Harris in for North and Bollinger in for Johnson and bump Haddin up the order. I am a Queenslander and even I would drop Johnson. We need guys that can bowl in partnership and sustain long periods of pressure, not guys that give away runs frequently and only take wickets every now and then. Line and length people! Also, if Clarke is not fully fit, then bring in Cameron White. Doherty was ok, but please help him and get him to ease his pace so the ball dips and turns, and use the crease more. Subtle variation is the key - speed, angle from the crease and an arm-ball if he's got one. Ricky's a good captain but not a great one. Too many feild changes disrupts the bowlers. Have patience with a plan. Don't change the field twice an over. Australia will win the Ashes if we do two things - 1. play with tight aggression, and 2. Smart selections (the best players in the best form 100% fit that can play with tight aggression)

  • BDHUNTER on November 29, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    plz pick Harris,Bolinger to make the immediate impact to Ashes 2010.

  • Mav2010 on November 29, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    They think of North as a future leader in the team. Its a team full of oldies who will retire around the same time. North seems to have a good cricket brain but he doesn't deserve his place in the team on form. I'd be grooming Watson for the Position , he needs work but i think it would bring the best out of him.

  • Asif_Iqbal on November 29, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    Aussies dont be panic go with same 11, I think both side of bowler sufferd on this track and only differnce b/w Siddle spell.

  • bottom_feeder on November 29, 2010, 10:20 GMT

    First the obvious ones. Johnson and North must go. I can't believe there is any debate on these two. I just hope the selectors have the guts to go one step further and axe Clarke. Its not just because he scored single digits after facing 50 balls, playing and missing everything before putting everyone including himself out of his misery. Its not just because he dropped a sitter in the slips at a pivotal time in the game. Its not just because his back is in worse condition than my 80yr old grandma's which i assume is the reason he didn't bowl. But its also because he is just an annoying little insect who acts as though he has some divine right to inherit the captaincy of the team.

  • Dismayed on November 29, 2010, 10:19 GMT

    Australian selectors are to gutless to make the changes that should have been made before going to India. Ponitng once again has proven he is not a good leader or tactician.50 not out, so what game was over. North must go. S.Smith in. Clarke needs time in shield. C.White in. Ryan Harris for any of the quicks. Siddle wont take 6 more wickets for the series. Love cricket but losing heart with the last 3 years of selections and terrible captaincy. So many consistent world class performers in state ranks. No future in persisting with Katich,Ponting,North.Bring in the Jacues,Hughes Ferguson,anyone Ryan Harris has 2 good years in him,play him until the Starcs, Hastings, M.Marsh, Hazelwood,Copeland,Cameron, Pattinson are given a run. Once again selectors to gutless and team to proud to have honest inward appraisal.

  • Dixy109 on November 29, 2010, 10:11 GMT

    The selectors have to make at least one change to the side from the Gabba. Johnson has been excess baggage for some time now, replace him with the much more effective left-arm seamer, Bollinger. North should be given one more chance before being jettisoned permanently. And why do the selectors continue to ignore Steve O'Keefe? He's a better bowler than Steve Smith and his batting isn't too shabby either. He's performed admirably for Australia A, taking vital wickets and scoring crucial lower-order runs. I also seem to remember that in his only international outing thus far, in a T20 match earlier this year against the Pakistanis, he picked up three wickets. Doherty reminds me of Ashley Giles, a hard-working but unexceptional player. Giles always looked out of his depth at international level, I doubt Doherty can cut the mustard either. Bring in O'Keefe!

  • longdonkey on November 29, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    Think I'd play Harris possibly for Hilfy not sure that I'd drop Johnson however if he wasn't to fire at Adelaide and Perth I'd put Bollinger in for the last 2 tests. Weather looks like it'll be warm but with a bit of rain on Day 1 which means a bit of cloud and a bit of humidity. Won't be a baking 40 as it is sometimes and due to all the rain we've had here don't be surprised if the pitch is not the normal batting pitch. New curator as well.

  • Dismayed on November 29, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    Once again Selectors to gutless to do what is required. It is well past time the whole team and selectors and coaches took a real honest look at themselves. The technical faillings of both batsmen and bowlers is a disgrace. The selectors are not brave enough to make the changes that are required. Ponting and team are living in fantasy land. Not good enough. Ponting is not a leader and has NO ability to read the game or create for his team. The team believe they are doing ok.? What a disgrace. Harris, Smith, White,Jaqcues, O'keefe,D.Hussey, honest players who continue to perform. Time for the likes of Clarke, North,Johnson to return to domestic cricket to find something. No future in Katich(sorry) Absolute disgrace is CA.

  • jessiedog on November 29, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    What happened to the ruthless selecton policies of yester year that the Aussies used. If they were still in place Johnson, North and Clarke would have been dropped long ago...Time to reward some of the young blood, that was how Ponting and Clarke got there start. Get ruthless Again Aus if you want to improve.

  • Suraj_bhatta on November 29, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    i think jhonson has done alot for Australia in past so just an ordinary performance in a match is not sufficient to consider his place for next test.so guys just give him another chance.

  • Kunal-Talgeri on November 29, 2010, 9:55 GMT

    Where on earth is Stuart Clark? England has a weakness against him, and they don't know why. Refer Ashes 2006.

  • katycat on November 29, 2010, 9:55 GMT

    It is utterly beyond me how North can continue to be picked. I have honestly given up hope that North will ever be dropped, but it is ridiculous. Khawaja or Ferguson, even though they haven't been in the best form in their last few games, would be a better selection. Or even Shaun Marsh; in his last three Shield games he has scored 137, 89 and now 86 today, against a strong NSW team, not to mention 132 in the one day game a few days ago. Surely he must be considered at some stage?

  • Benkl on November 29, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    Agree with Gilly4Ever we need to find a bowler so its worth going with 5 but only if M Clarke is fit ...

    Watson, Katich, Ponting, M Clarke, M Hussey, Haddin, Doherty, R Harris, Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger.

    Johnson needs his mojo back ...If he has the will needed for tests he will recover in shield cricket,

  • Woody111 on November 29, 2010, 9:40 GMT

    North averages 6 when going in with Aus under 150. The guy has only ever made runs when there's a defendable total already on the board. If this were 7 or 8 years ago Johnson would have been dropped after his Ashes performance in Eng and told to get some wickets in the shield and put himself up for re-selection. Clarke is clearly not right to bat with his back. Who cares if he's never missed a game because of it? If you can't bat properly with it you're doing a disservice to your team. Selectors have painted themselves into a corner now. They're not going to drop Johnson and North, give Clarke a break and then potentially have to replace Katich through injury. Why did you pick North in the first place?!? Khawaja or Smith could have had a run and done no worse. Now selectors have the biggest headache before a 2nd test since bodyline!Booooooooooo

  • anver777 on November 29, 2010, 9:37 GMT

    Right now Johnson's morale is very very low, couple of years ago he was compared to past legendary all rounders......got the talent to do it........I guess selectors should give him a break for few matches & who knows he can comeback strongly in the last stage of the series !!!!!!!

  • morethan20-20 on November 29, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    one can only hope that the selectors have had a chance to remove their collective heads from johnson and norths' buttocks. They seem to be amazingly protected, as does Pup..when did the "being a great team man" and having a great work ethic replace talent and consistency. Goodluck to Harris and dougie

  • MJB_68 on November 29, 2010, 9:32 GMT

    North is presumably secure in the team because he's the best spinner in the country at the moment?

  • toto99 on November 29, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    looks like australia is going to be the next windies!

  • David47 on November 29, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    Ahh! - now we're getting somewhere. Two of our best five fast bowlers have been added to the squad and both should play in Adelaide. And if/when Siddle doesn't perform then he should be replaced for the third test by one of the other three (n.b. none of the top five played in Brisbane in my opinion). North will go after Adelaide. So, hopefully, and if the selectors get their collective snouts out of the trough for long enough to start taking Aus test cricket as seriously as we now long-suffering Aus fans do, by Perth we might actually be putting a decent side on the field.

  • Arvind3 on November 29, 2010, 9:21 GMT

    Keep Johnson in and bring in Bollinger, then watch how mitchell performs. Sometimes bowlers need support...

  • rockiran on November 29, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    Expecting a 1-0 up for the Aussies at the Adelaide.

  • seagrip on November 29, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    This is ridiculous. I wouldnt have picked a single bolwre that played at the Gabba. McDonald, Harris, Bollinger and o'keefe should have played and that opinion is backed up by statistics that show that EVERY one of those players has a better first class average than the guy that played ahead of them at the Gabba.

    Ridiculous that not a single one played (ok fair enough McDonald is injured now but he wasnt before the squad was announced)!! The selectors seem hell bent on picking someone because they can bowl at 90mph plus rather than picking someone who can actually take wickets!! What would happen if McGrath was around today? I am guessing he wouldnt get a lookin because he cant bowl bouncers down legside at 90mph!! even my 5th choice bowler (McKay) has a better average than any of the picked players!! And as for Marcus North - do us all a favour and retire already!!

  • Micgyver on November 29, 2010, 9:08 GMT

    Put simply,Johnson has to go.This isnt a time to panic but Johnsons lack of control and fire is hurting the Aussies.Dougie Bollinger is not only a controlled bowler but he gives you everything,he has to come in.Siddle is the same,and even though he didnt look too threatening in the 2nd innings,no bowler did but at least these 2 bowlers give their ALL!North should be gone too but his part time bowling will probably keep him in. @Gilly4ever,dropping a batsman would only put added pressure on the rest.The form of Clarke is average to say the least and Watson is always a good option to bowl a few.

  • Nerk on November 29, 2010, 9:02 GMT

    Marcus North is the countries best spin bowler, it would be foolish to drop him! I think Johnson needs to be dropped. He certainly has talent and is still quite young. A few matches at state level might give him an oppurtunity to straighten his action out and get back to form. It worked for Steve Waugh, Hayden, Langer etc. I think part of the problem is that suddenly Johnson is leading the Aussie attack. As such he has bowled slower and more defensively. He needs to attack. Bring in Bollinger. He is in top form, he attacks the batsmen and as Zaheer Khan showed, England struggle against GOOD left arm bowling.

  • AtulManchanda on November 29, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    I think Clarke and Johnson are the most over rated Aussie cricketers of all time. I feel sorry for all those good performers playing so well in Shield cricket but can't get a chance above long time non-performers like Clarke, Johnson, North. Experience over talent is not what Australia needs at this time.

  • Webba84 on November 29, 2010, 8:59 GMT

    Oh, no doubt North will hit a century in one of the Ashes Tests. It will have no effect on the result of the match or the series but it will save his career, again, and provide many additional months of angst for australian supporters, again. Just like Johnson, not hard working enough or smart enough to make it at the top. Maybe there's hope for Johnson if he learns some toughness in 1st class scene but why the hell he's still in the squad now I have no idea.

  • crow_eater on November 29, 2010, 8:50 GMT

    North & Johnson out George & Ferguson in!

  • jonesy2 on November 29, 2010, 8:46 GMT

    hilfenhaus has to go he was awful after being unlucky not to have 2 early ones. bring in doug. my 4-0 australia series victory prediction is still on

  • Chapelau on November 29, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    Agree with dropping North and Johnson - they hold no fears for England. Not sure about Clarke - look at his average and compare that to the failures in the Aus A game - seems the cupboard is bare. Also dont berate Oz too much - this is a totally different kind of England team - mentally tough - not like previous touring teams.

  • sudzz71 on November 29, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    They've got it all wrong. Their problem is not with the pacemen-they are as good as they can be. They need one additional effective spinner if they can complement Doherty with Hauritz or someone like him it would be great.

    They can even get back the bloke they had debut in West Indies a couple of years back he is a good spinner except it was a case of stage fright that got him.

  • LALITHKURUWITA on November 29, 2010, 8:32 GMT

    It looks like Ashes will stay in the North. English 1st Inning can be excused. But they batted very professionally in the second inning. Aussies do not have the power to get 20 wickets. The way they ball, I do not think that England will be all out cheaply in the coming test matches. The most important thing is England morale is very high and Aussies are very dissapointed. As far as I remeber this is the first time in Australia that Aussies conceded over 500 runs but took only 1 wicketespecially in the second inning. Lalih Kuruwita - Sydney

  • asillypoint on November 29, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    So, clearly, Bolinger is no longer lacking match fitness. Given there is no change top the top six, obviously, the Australian batsmen were not at fault for not scoring enough runs on flat track........ Did Micheal Clarke do anything in the match -oh, besides a dropped catch? The koala of the Australian team.

  • Donut_Davey on November 29, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    as ab England supporter living in Aus. Can I please thank the Aussie selectors for keeping haddin, north and an injured clarke.That almost guaruntees we can't lose already. I would love to see Butterworth as a shock selection

  • Cricbang on November 29, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    Drop Johnson , Doherty and North and bring in Bollinger , Harris and need a replacement for North. If Australia wants to place safe with flat wickets then the chances of them winning the ashes seems more like a dream.

  • Hijas on November 29, 2010, 8:26 GMT

    If aussies need to show any impact in the next test.... Drop Johnson, Hilfenhaus and bring in harris anad bollinger........ Give the bowlers Johnson, Hilfenhaus some time in counties... and let them back to rhythm... and call them back...

  • Sanj747 on November 29, 2010, 8:26 GMT

    It continues to amaze how anyone in their right mind could keep Marcus North in the side. By the law of his averages he might score in the last test. I say MIGHT. As for Mitchell Hohnson, the time has come for change. Michael Clarke needs to deliver. Long overdue. We talk about the Shield being the strongest 1st class competition in the world. The selections do not reflect this.

  • indiafinda on November 29, 2010, 8:25 GMT

    sad times for Australia

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 29, 2010, 8:24 GMT

    With Adelaide easy to bat on, we can drop a bat. So let's drop the 2 worst players, North and Johnson and put in the 2 best. My XI: Watson, Katich, Ponting, M Clarke, M Hussey, Haddin, Doherty, R Harris, Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger.

  • Iceborn999 on November 29, 2010, 8:22 GMT

    Australia must drop Johnson if we are to have a chance of winning these ashes. He was missing the pitch on a number of deliveries. This is happening way too often, when are the selectors going to realise this???. There is absolutely no excuse for this test match that just finished. The Gabba is our fortress, no one wins at the Gabba a part from Australia. It was a very sad effort by the Aussies, take no notice of the wicket was flat garbage. When Johnson is constantly bowling wides and on the batsmans leg stump... we will never have a chance... Australia was 4 beers short of a 6 pack today.... no excuse.

  • rohanbala on November 29, 2010, 8:20 GMT

    "I don't think anyone is a certainty," Ponting said... Rather, he should have said: I don't think anyone (except Marcus North and Michael Clarke) is a certainty! Poor selection policies such as like this, is definitely going to be a blow in the face of the Australian selectors once again. Two new comers in the place of North and Clarke would have strengthened the team.

  • on November 29, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    WHY IS NORTH STILL THERE? AAARRGGGGGHHHHHH!

  • on November 29, 2010, 8:09 GMT

    Does Marcus North have some incriminating photos of selectors? No passengers should be allowed this series. Ridiculous.

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  • on November 29, 2010, 8:09 GMT

    Does Marcus North have some incriminating photos of selectors? No passengers should be allowed this series. Ridiculous.

  • on November 29, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    WHY IS NORTH STILL THERE? AAARRGGGGGHHHHHH!

  • rohanbala on November 29, 2010, 8:20 GMT

    "I don't think anyone is a certainty," Ponting said... Rather, he should have said: I don't think anyone (except Marcus North and Michael Clarke) is a certainty! Poor selection policies such as like this, is definitely going to be a blow in the face of the Australian selectors once again. Two new comers in the place of North and Clarke would have strengthened the team.

  • Iceborn999 on November 29, 2010, 8:22 GMT

    Australia must drop Johnson if we are to have a chance of winning these ashes. He was missing the pitch on a number of deliveries. This is happening way too often, when are the selectors going to realise this???. There is absolutely no excuse for this test match that just finished. The Gabba is our fortress, no one wins at the Gabba a part from Australia. It was a very sad effort by the Aussies, take no notice of the wicket was flat garbage. When Johnson is constantly bowling wides and on the batsmans leg stump... we will never have a chance... Australia was 4 beers short of a 6 pack today.... no excuse.

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 29, 2010, 8:24 GMT

    With Adelaide easy to bat on, we can drop a bat. So let's drop the 2 worst players, North and Johnson and put in the 2 best. My XI: Watson, Katich, Ponting, M Clarke, M Hussey, Haddin, Doherty, R Harris, Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger.

  • indiafinda on November 29, 2010, 8:25 GMT

    sad times for Australia

  • Sanj747 on November 29, 2010, 8:26 GMT

    It continues to amaze how anyone in their right mind could keep Marcus North in the side. By the law of his averages he might score in the last test. I say MIGHT. As for Mitchell Hohnson, the time has come for change. Michael Clarke needs to deliver. Long overdue. We talk about the Shield being the strongest 1st class competition in the world. The selections do not reflect this.

  • Hijas on November 29, 2010, 8:26 GMT

    If aussies need to show any impact in the next test.... Drop Johnson, Hilfenhaus and bring in harris anad bollinger........ Give the bowlers Johnson, Hilfenhaus some time in counties... and let them back to rhythm... and call them back...

  • Cricbang on November 29, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    Drop Johnson , Doherty and North and bring in Bollinger , Harris and need a replacement for North. If Australia wants to place safe with flat wickets then the chances of them winning the ashes seems more like a dream.

  • Donut_Davey on November 29, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    as ab England supporter living in Aus. Can I please thank the Aussie selectors for keeping haddin, north and an injured clarke.That almost guaruntees we can't lose already. I would love to see Butterworth as a shock selection