Australia v England, 2nd Test, Adelaide, 5th day December 9, 2013

Lord's humiliation fired turnaround

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Australia's dramatic turnaround from Test match lightweights to the brink of regaining the Ashes is the flowering of a regeneration that began in the aftermath of shattering defeat in the second match of the previous series at Lord's, the coach, Darren Lehmann, believes.

After completing a second consecutive battering of England at Adelaide Oval, this time despite a pitch that appeared to favour the visitors, Lehmann and the captain, Michael Clarke, said the team's change in fortunes had been a long time in the making.

Lehmann pinpointed the 347-run defeat at Lord's as the moment at which the team resolved to improve, drawing the next match at Old Trafford and beginning to shape the plans and attitudes that have been writ large across the two matches in Brisbane and Adelaide, won by the combined margin of 599 runs as the fearsome Mitchell Johnson harvested 17 wickets.

"I think we started to turn around after Lord's, after the way we played, the brand of cricket we're trying to play," Lehmann said. "We're starting to bat a lot better, bowl a lot better. If you look at the last five matches, we've certainly bowled a lot better, containing England with our plans.

"They're pretty driven this lot. I'm really pleased at what they bring to the table and how they've gone about things over the last few Test matches. We changed a few things in England and they've been a really good, driven bunch of players and support staff who want the right goal for Australian cricket and that's not just short term, that's long term.

"It helps when you win. It would have been nice in England not to have weather but we can't look back. We probably should have won one or two Test matches there. Once you start to win it makes it easier for guys to understand where they're going."

Clarke, who has contributed two centuries in as many Tests but been far from the only standout performer for his side, said victory in Brisbane had helped build confidence among players who had been striving for vindication of their efforts since England.

"I think the boys took a lot of confidence out of Brisbane, but I think we took a lot of confidence out of the back half of England to be honest," Clarke said. "It's nice to see everybody contributing, that's the most pleasing thing about these first two Tests. Although Mitch sits here as Man of the Match once again I think everyone in the team has contributed

"These two wins are satisfying because of the work we've put in over a long period of time. In our opinion it's not a fluke that we've won the first two Test matches. It's the hard work that we've put in. The reality is we've won two Test matches in the past 12 months and that's not acceptable as an Australian Test team. So our feet are well and truly cemented on the ground.''

Australia's selectors have named an unchanged squad for the Perth Test, due to begin on Friday, but have kept Doug Bollinger and Nathan Coulter-Nile on standby as reserve fast bowlers, pending the recoveries of Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle and Johnson.

"When we get to Perth, as we do for every Test match, every players will be assessed by our medical staff and if they're fully fit and able to perform at 100 per cent, they'll be available for selection," Clarke said. "From the information I have now, everybody's pulled up fine."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • deeplongon on December 11, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    I agree that the toss (especially in England with doctored dry wickets, and a good spinner) is an advantage. But let's look at this series more closely.

    I was at the GABBA on day one. We won the toss and batted in very difficulty circumstances (bouncy green wicket) and a VERY slow outfield. Our score at the end of day one was 40 or 50 short compared to a ground with a fast outfield. We did a fine job to make runs we made on a tough day. The POMS batted on day 2 (the best batting day of the game) and were KILLED. That's their fault - not the toss.

    Let's see if Cook bats first at the WACA if he wins the toss. I'd like to see that. The game won't last 3 days. Lol

    In general tho the toss has too much influence on the outcome. The only way to overcome this is to have wickets that start favouring pace, roll out to favour batsmen and then break up to favour spinners. I have seen no such wickets in England or India.

  • on December 10, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    like Australia england is coming to an end of an era and these players are not performing at the heights they once did. the younger generation is not developed because of the big names being picked on reputation. as an aussie we watched this with ponting mind u he deserved to go out on his terms but I can see a few english players going down this road and being pushed. this will cause a problem that Australia has now with the batting with noone being developed. Australia's bowling attack is one of the best in the world and England's is aging at least the young stock in Australia is thriving.

  • wellrounded87 on December 10, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    @thinkgood you aren't serious are you? That has to be a joke. No one can honestly say the IPL has done anything other than detriment test cricket.

    One only has to look back to England vs India in India to see that an IPL dominated team means very little in tests. Australia are just on the improve while England might be on the decline, they now have a very good coach (Lehman), a healthy mix of youth and experience and a lot of depth in the fast bowling department.

    MJ finally bowling to his potential doesn't hurt either.

    @Dr.Vindaloo 2 things First Lyon isn't the best spinner, SOK is but selectors ignore him constantly for reasons unknown. SOK unlike Lyon specialises in taking 4th and 5th day wickets. Second Henriques is a seam bowler not a spinner.

    I agree with your assessment of the top 6. Though i think Warner is going to be something special in the future, he's still only 26 and he's averaging low 40's already and is improving leaps and bounds with each test.

  • on December 10, 2013, 4:16 GMT

    England came arrogant their mentality we are the best in the world I am not an Aussie fan, Johanson mustache put fear in their mind plus English players have no patriotism half the side is ex South Africans, they came to UK to earn a better living except that little Indian who dances when he takes a wicket like he took 7 wicket, Swarn is not good under pressure, even the coach South African Ho my heaven their must some conspiracy.....

  • on December 10, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    It was embarrassing to see England crumble in such humiliating way. Come on boys pick yourself up and fight back. No other way out. You got to face Johnson and your worst demon in positive way, or else most of you would be history very soon.

  • jargan83 on December 10, 2013, 3:03 GMT

    @ Carl Sinclair: The first 3 days of the Test are sold out anyway so unless you had tickets you weren't going to the WACA anyway

  • Biggus on December 10, 2013, 2:38 GMT

    @thinkgood:- What a load of rot! Australian success is all because of the IPL eh, such very selective use of data. How about the England leg where they won 3-0. Is it then correct to say they won because they didn't play IPL. And how about the performance of the Indian team in South Africa atm? They've surely ALL played IPL and should by your theory be unbeatable, but they've have been massacred! Dare I say it Mr thinkgood, I think you need to think better. If you clutch at the most emotionally appealing/least emotionally uncomfortable solution your just likely to deny yourself the chance to find the correct one.

  • on December 10, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    Easily the big difference from May this year to now is the attitude of the Aussies, from spoilt brats whose birthright was to play for Australia to hard working and to earn their place. Well done and congratulations mostly directed to the coach D Lehmann.

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on December 10, 2013, 1:00 GMT

    While the kudos to Mitchell Johnson are well deserved, we have to acknowledge the massive difference Brad Haddin's made to this side. He turned it around in Brisbane and has played superbly in Adelaide. Matthew Wade was a weak link and bringing Haddin back in the side was also key to this turnaround. David Warner can put the fear of god into bowlers. Hopefully, he'll become a dominant force with more consistent performances. The big disappointment is Shane Watson. I think he's fast getting into the 'overrated' category. The occasional 50s and 60s are not going to win matches for Australia.

  • OneEyedAussie on December 10, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    Australia got deservedly handed a hiding at Lord's but otherwise they were still very competitive with the English while not playing particularly well on surfaces that were not conducive to their strength i.e. fast bowling. Australia were also terribly unlucky. This tour things have been quite different: the pitch at Brisbane suited our bowlers and Clarke has won the toss both games so far.

    However, as most of the sensible pundits are saying - this series is still yet to be won and in the longer term this team still has a very long way to go to reach their aim of #1. I think the bowling will take care of itself with Pattinson, Cummins and Starc being developed and Lyon still having a long career ahead of him. The question mark is over the batting: can we find six young batsmen in this country who can average over 40 consistently. Warner is starting to look the part but he is awfully lonely.

  • deeplongon on December 11, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    I agree that the toss (especially in England with doctored dry wickets, and a good spinner) is an advantage. But let's look at this series more closely.

    I was at the GABBA on day one. We won the toss and batted in very difficulty circumstances (bouncy green wicket) and a VERY slow outfield. Our score at the end of day one was 40 or 50 short compared to a ground with a fast outfield. We did a fine job to make runs we made on a tough day. The POMS batted on day 2 (the best batting day of the game) and were KILLED. That's their fault - not the toss.

    Let's see if Cook bats first at the WACA if he wins the toss. I'd like to see that. The game won't last 3 days. Lol

    In general tho the toss has too much influence on the outcome. The only way to overcome this is to have wickets that start favouring pace, roll out to favour batsmen and then break up to favour spinners. I have seen no such wickets in England or India.

  • on December 10, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    like Australia england is coming to an end of an era and these players are not performing at the heights they once did. the younger generation is not developed because of the big names being picked on reputation. as an aussie we watched this with ponting mind u he deserved to go out on his terms but I can see a few english players going down this road and being pushed. this will cause a problem that Australia has now with the batting with noone being developed. Australia's bowling attack is one of the best in the world and England's is aging at least the young stock in Australia is thriving.

  • wellrounded87 on December 10, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    @thinkgood you aren't serious are you? That has to be a joke. No one can honestly say the IPL has done anything other than detriment test cricket.

    One only has to look back to England vs India in India to see that an IPL dominated team means very little in tests. Australia are just on the improve while England might be on the decline, they now have a very good coach (Lehman), a healthy mix of youth and experience and a lot of depth in the fast bowling department.

    MJ finally bowling to his potential doesn't hurt either.

    @Dr.Vindaloo 2 things First Lyon isn't the best spinner, SOK is but selectors ignore him constantly for reasons unknown. SOK unlike Lyon specialises in taking 4th and 5th day wickets. Second Henriques is a seam bowler not a spinner.

    I agree with your assessment of the top 6. Though i think Warner is going to be something special in the future, he's still only 26 and he's averaging low 40's already and is improving leaps and bounds with each test.

  • on December 10, 2013, 4:16 GMT

    England came arrogant their mentality we are the best in the world I am not an Aussie fan, Johanson mustache put fear in their mind plus English players have no patriotism half the side is ex South Africans, they came to UK to earn a better living except that little Indian who dances when he takes a wicket like he took 7 wicket, Swarn is not good under pressure, even the coach South African Ho my heaven their must some conspiracy.....

  • on December 10, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    It was embarrassing to see England crumble in such humiliating way. Come on boys pick yourself up and fight back. No other way out. You got to face Johnson and your worst demon in positive way, or else most of you would be history very soon.

  • jargan83 on December 10, 2013, 3:03 GMT

    @ Carl Sinclair: The first 3 days of the Test are sold out anyway so unless you had tickets you weren't going to the WACA anyway

  • Biggus on December 10, 2013, 2:38 GMT

    @thinkgood:- What a load of rot! Australian success is all because of the IPL eh, such very selective use of data. How about the England leg where they won 3-0. Is it then correct to say they won because they didn't play IPL. And how about the performance of the Indian team in South Africa atm? They've surely ALL played IPL and should by your theory be unbeatable, but they've have been massacred! Dare I say it Mr thinkgood, I think you need to think better. If you clutch at the most emotionally appealing/least emotionally uncomfortable solution your just likely to deny yourself the chance to find the correct one.

  • on December 10, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    Easily the big difference from May this year to now is the attitude of the Aussies, from spoilt brats whose birthright was to play for Australia to hard working and to earn their place. Well done and congratulations mostly directed to the coach D Lehmann.

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on December 10, 2013, 1:00 GMT

    While the kudos to Mitchell Johnson are well deserved, we have to acknowledge the massive difference Brad Haddin's made to this side. He turned it around in Brisbane and has played superbly in Adelaide. Matthew Wade was a weak link and bringing Haddin back in the side was also key to this turnaround. David Warner can put the fear of god into bowlers. Hopefully, he'll become a dominant force with more consistent performances. The big disappointment is Shane Watson. I think he's fast getting into the 'overrated' category. The occasional 50s and 60s are not going to win matches for Australia.

  • OneEyedAussie on December 10, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    Australia got deservedly handed a hiding at Lord's but otherwise they were still very competitive with the English while not playing particularly well on surfaces that were not conducive to their strength i.e. fast bowling. Australia were also terribly unlucky. This tour things have been quite different: the pitch at Brisbane suited our bowlers and Clarke has won the toss both games so far.

    However, as most of the sensible pundits are saying - this series is still yet to be won and in the longer term this team still has a very long way to go to reach their aim of #1. I think the bowling will take care of itself with Pattinson, Cummins and Starc being developed and Lyon still having a long career ahead of him. The question mark is over the batting: can we find six young batsmen in this country who can average over 40 consistently. Warner is starting to look the part but he is awfully lonely.

  • left_arm_unorthodox on December 10, 2013, 0:16 GMT

    As usual, a couple of results and everyone over-reacts. It's not the end of the line for England and this Aussie team is not suddenly going to be number 1. Mitchell Johnson is not suddenly Wasim Akram. We know what really matters.

    It's the toss.

    Recall: In England, England won the first two tosses of the series, batted first, won the games (only just in test 1). In Australia, Aussies won two tosses, batted first, and won two games. Australia drew the two games in England when they won the toss and batted, and were the more likely team to win in both of those. In the other game England won the toss and ... won. No one who has won a toss has lost in 7 tests. In fact, in 10 of the last 13 Ashes Tests in England, England have won the toss and got to bat first. And this coincides with their dominance. If you win the toss in home conditions, you have a massive advantage. England need to show some fight, yes, but if they win the next two or three tosses, who knows?

  • on December 10, 2013, 0:10 GMT

    @thinkgood what is the relation in playing in ipl and winning in ashes? Like can a cricketer get any sort of advantage by playing in flat,slow indian pitches when they go to fast bouncy aussie pitches? you make no sense at all.... infact it's quite comical tbh...

  • on December 9, 2013, 23:02 GMT

    Lets face it, Aussies are not a side that is built of talent. They are at their best when they realize the Aussie intensity and desire that they bring to the plate. The hunger is back. This was missing for a long period of time and it was not the same watching Australia in the past few months. Now we can sit back and relax...cricket is alive again. This comes from an Indian fan...!! More importantly...England are back. The hype, the media makes around England is beyond belief. A back to ground zero for England. But then the series is by no means over. It just got interesting. Aussies want it more...and England need to fight. The stage is set. Cannot miss Perth.

  • Shaggy076 on December 9, 2013, 23:01 GMT

    thinkgood ; If that was true you would think India could beat England. I think it was 6-1 to England over 8 tests. Maybe this is the true reflection of IPL just saying.

  • ShutTheGate on December 9, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    "The reality is we've won two Test matches in the past 12 months and that's not acceptable as an Australian Test team"

    The reality is that you've won 5 test matches in the last 12 months and your recent record is only 1 loss in the last 5 matches.

    If only we can learn to bat on overseas wickets….

  • Chris_P on December 9, 2013, 21:34 GMT

    @ jb633. It won't be 5-0. We are neither that good nor are the English that bad, in fact England, despite the touch-ups, is still a good side, but looking extremely jaded & disinterested. The warning signs were there in England, Bell's heroics saved England on a number of occasions plus Broad's inspired spell in the 4th test. I know what we have done, McDermott being prominent, but I still can't quite put my finger on why England has slipped so dramatically the past 12 months. But their performances in the past 4 years demands respect.

  • Chris_P on December 9, 2013, 21:29 GMT

    @ thinkgood. IPL? Dream on, old boy, dream on. Playing on flat tracks & little grounds is the perfect grounding? Interesting.....

  • on December 9, 2013, 21:23 GMT

    Take out Johnson, and Australia is the same old side!

  • on December 9, 2013, 19:30 GMT

    Confidence is one thing. Over-confidence is entirely different.

  • thinkgood on December 9, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    The real difference is IPL. Eight out of Eleven of the Australian Ashes team have played/play in the IPL (except may be Clarke who did not play as many as other players). This when compared to the English side - only KP - is the stark difference between the two sides. The Aussie coach - Darren Lehman - himself the coach for Kings XI Punjab - an IPL team. Go figure !

  • on December 9, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    Australia want this series more than they've wanted any recent series. The focus and intensity is frightening and the Poms cannot live with it. The influence of Darren Lehmann can't be underestimated. He is going to be very successful.

  • Front-Foot-Sponge on December 9, 2013, 15:40 GMT

    We should just try to overall win the series by 1500 runs. We are right on target so far.

  • Manush on December 9, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    If one analysis impartially, the truth is after the first three test in England the way Clarke regrouped to fight back with Haddin and his bowlers was very impressive which they are continuing in the current series.Whereas England's victory was not impressive. The bowlers did well and now also they are doing well barring Swann who looks jaded.In batting barring Bell,Pietersen and Root rest of them including the leader Cook continue to perform very badly.Added to this leaving Compton was a serious mistake. he was an ideal foil to give Cook solidity in opening the innings. Losing Trott is a tragedy. England will repeat their worst Ashes defense. England has been very slow to gear up to their potentials when they go abroad. Tremlett could have been retained who had a decent game in the 1st Test. It is going to be very tough for England to redeem from this horrible situation they are in.

  • Westmorlandia on December 9, 2013, 14:41 GMT

    It won't be 5-0, as England will get their stuff together to some extent, just as the Aussies did in England. Maybe a series defeat will also be good for England in a way.

    It seems that too many players in the England team are looking around to see who else in the team is going to win the game for them. If they go home on the back of a heavy defeat, they'll have to face up to the fact that they ALL need to be going out there intending to be that matchwinner. Again and again.

    The senior players seem very jaded (with the exception of Bell, for some reason). They can cover it up when they're winning, but they don't seem to have the stomach for a loss. It's noticeable that it is the newer players (Carberry, Root, Stokes) who LOOK like they're showing the most fight at the moment.

  • jb633 on December 9, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    From an English fan i must confess that the Aussies deserve credit. When the series is over and we return with our tail between our legs there will be a tiny segment of me that will be happy. For the last 6 years i have almost felt sorry for the Aussies and wanted them to beat India desperately. Now the feelings I had as a child of disliking all the players I wanted to succeed only 6 months ago are back. It's definitely good for the game and they are looking top draw at the moment. This series will end 5-0 and one of the worst thrashings I have ever seen.

  • Dr.Vindaloo on December 9, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    It really has been impressive the way that Australia have turned things round since Lords. They were definitely the better side in the second half of the series in England and have carried that momentum forward into this series. There are lessons - and hope - for England in how a clear-sighted approach can yield results quickly. Lehman and Clarke wasted no time in deciding on their best team, and there has been an end to the chopping and changing that characterised their series in India and England. In particular they have got their bowling options spot-on. It was clear to almost everyone apart from Mickey Arthur that Lyon was their best spinner (Henriques? Beer? Doherty? Agar?), and when you add Johnson's pace to the quality of Harris and Siddle you have the best and most versatile bowling attack in the world. With the exception of Clarke they are still short of quality in the top 6 but someone is always putting their hand up - usually Haddin! So good on them.

  • Iwerneanffontmell on December 9, 2013, 12:32 GMT

    The problem for England is that not enough of their big guns are firing and England's attack has been neutered by the pitches. The ball isn't turning or swinging so we are at an immediate disadvantage - coupled with the fact that we are scoring 400+ in either innings. This has been an accident waiting to happen and a pretty average Aussie side have taken advantage. The only real difference from the summer is Mitchell Johnson's form. 3 - 0 in the summer flattered England bigtime considering only Bell made any serious runs and I think that back-to-back series has simply jaded them a little and Australia are simply up for it. Combine all of this and it is really a perfect storm. I believe that their bowling would be as toothless as England's without Johnson so it is a bit premature to write off Swan and Anderson just yet. Johnson was a bit off-colour in the last innings and we made a decent fist of it and could have done better if Bell, Broad and Cook hadn't holed out.

  • on December 9, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    If it wasn't going to be hotter than hell, I would go watch this Perth test. Alas, I'll stay at home and watch it.

    5-0 is on.

  • A.Ak on December 9, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    Aussies played like Aussies and Good win for them. Eng shouldn't feel that bad as this is an away game and there are out of touch, may be complacent.

  • Denno911 on December 9, 2013, 9:58 GMT

    The series so far, the English are being beaten like they stole something.. Is it right to mention that they have not won a test in Perth since 1978...The one and only test win in Perth.

    Mitch Johnson in awesome form with the rock, all that can be said is Good luck Lads your going to need it........

  • SoyQuearns on December 9, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    Things have moved in the right direction since the absolute hiding at Lord's.

    One thing that has remained constant LONG before the Ashes in England and will remain as an obvious fact (to all but those with their heads in the sand) is the fact that Michael Clarke is not only a superior batsman in every way, shape and form when compared to Cook, but his captaincy is OBVIOUSLY considerably more advanced in all the areas that matter.

    Cook is a good man and a good man manager, but he lacks the killer instinct, relying mainly on a set of very basic and obvious plans and an experienced and familiar team who can, more often than not, carry out such basic plans.

    As we saw with Agar and Phil 'toad boy' Hughes, once you scratch the surface of Cook's theories as a captain things crumble to ashes (no pun intended, well maybe a bit).

    Cook, and England, will bounce back, with little echoes showing in the 2nd innings.

    What is sure is that Swann and Anderson have been outclassed.

    #TimeForSoyQ

  • Clyde on December 9, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    I would prefer better players to more ruthless ones, and this means even very nice people could enter the sport of cricket. Let's not put prospective players off.

  • ravi_hari on December 9, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    The first victory for Aus was fielding the same XI in two consecutive tests. In the past couple of years they changed players more than their jerseys. Confidence, performances and fitness have helped the side to stay together. Today we see each one complementing and supplementing others and striving to contribute. The way Bailey batted, the way Smith fielded, the way Rogers is trying hard to give good starts all adds to the spirit. If this team can win another test and wrest the Urn, it would be commendable. Then Clarke's dream of climbing back to No.1 can become true very soon. No doubt there are still chinks in the armour, Watson, Smith and Bailey are not yet completely in saddle. 5th bowler is still missed. Haddin and Rogers are not getting any younger. So the process of finding replacements should go simultaneously. One good thing about these wins is that competition for positions in the team will hot up and domestic performances will improve. Good times coming for Aussies at last

  • on December 9, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    go aussie go for 5-0,all t best

  • Tova on December 9, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    Great win for the Aussies!!!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on December 9, 2013, 9:28 GMT

    I think Australia should target an aggregate 1200 runs series thrashing of England and make sure some of these English players never want to play Australia again. Being ruthless might not sound very nice but it is a trait of successful sportspeople whether we like it or not.

  • kepler22b on December 9, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    The temperatures in Perth next weekend 38, 39, 37 (100 farenheit every day)

    The ovens on, we just need the lambs for the slaughter.

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  • kepler22b on December 9, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    The temperatures in Perth next weekend 38, 39, 37 (100 farenheit every day)

    The ovens on, we just need the lambs for the slaughter.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on December 9, 2013, 9:28 GMT

    I think Australia should target an aggregate 1200 runs series thrashing of England and make sure some of these English players never want to play Australia again. Being ruthless might not sound very nice but it is a trait of successful sportspeople whether we like it or not.

  • Tova on December 9, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    Great win for the Aussies!!!

  • on December 9, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    go aussie go for 5-0,all t best

  • ravi_hari on December 9, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    The first victory for Aus was fielding the same XI in two consecutive tests. In the past couple of years they changed players more than their jerseys. Confidence, performances and fitness have helped the side to stay together. Today we see each one complementing and supplementing others and striving to contribute. The way Bailey batted, the way Smith fielded, the way Rogers is trying hard to give good starts all adds to the spirit. If this team can win another test and wrest the Urn, it would be commendable. Then Clarke's dream of climbing back to No.1 can become true very soon. No doubt there are still chinks in the armour, Watson, Smith and Bailey are not yet completely in saddle. 5th bowler is still missed. Haddin and Rogers are not getting any younger. So the process of finding replacements should go simultaneously. One good thing about these wins is that competition for positions in the team will hot up and domestic performances will improve. Good times coming for Aussies at last

  • Clyde on December 9, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    I would prefer better players to more ruthless ones, and this means even very nice people could enter the sport of cricket. Let's not put prospective players off.

  • SoyQuearns on December 9, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    Things have moved in the right direction since the absolute hiding at Lord's.

    One thing that has remained constant LONG before the Ashes in England and will remain as an obvious fact (to all but those with their heads in the sand) is the fact that Michael Clarke is not only a superior batsman in every way, shape and form when compared to Cook, but his captaincy is OBVIOUSLY considerably more advanced in all the areas that matter.

    Cook is a good man and a good man manager, but he lacks the killer instinct, relying mainly on a set of very basic and obvious plans and an experienced and familiar team who can, more often than not, carry out such basic plans.

    As we saw with Agar and Phil 'toad boy' Hughes, once you scratch the surface of Cook's theories as a captain things crumble to ashes (no pun intended, well maybe a bit).

    Cook, and England, will bounce back, with little echoes showing in the 2nd innings.

    What is sure is that Swann and Anderson have been outclassed.

    #TimeForSoyQ

  • Denno911 on December 9, 2013, 9:58 GMT

    The series so far, the English are being beaten like they stole something.. Is it right to mention that they have not won a test in Perth since 1978...The one and only test win in Perth.

    Mitch Johnson in awesome form with the rock, all that can be said is Good luck Lads your going to need it........

  • A.Ak on December 9, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    Aussies played like Aussies and Good win for them. Eng shouldn't feel that bad as this is an away game and there are out of touch, may be complacent.

  • on December 9, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    If it wasn't going to be hotter than hell, I would go watch this Perth test. Alas, I'll stay at home and watch it.

    5-0 is on.