The Ashes 2013

Rogers and Faulkner in Ashes squad

Daniel Brettig and Brydon Coverdale

April 24, 2013

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Brad Haddin and Chris Rogers are the hardened campaigners identified to unify Australia's Ashes tourists, while the young allrounder James Faulkner's inclusion in the squad for England has intensified pressure on Shane Watson to earn his place ahead of the series.

In a touring party constructed sensibly for the present moment rather than speculatively for the future, Haddin was confirmed as Australia's vice-captain for the Ashes tour, while the 35-year-old opener Rogers rocketed back into Test contention five years after his only match in the baggy green.

Rogers and Haddin added a valuable element of experience and leadership to the 16-man squad, qualities so often lacking on a horrid India tour earlier this year following the retirements of Ricky Ponting and Michael Hussey. John Inverarity, the national selector, left the captain Michael Clarke and the coach Mickey Arthur to devise the batting order, but Rogers appears likely to claim a top-order spot, perhaps as No. 3 behind David Warner and Ed Cowan.

"From the players available we believe Chris Rogers was very deserving of selection," Inverarity said. "We selected seven batsmen and we believe he was one who came into that slot, the other six all went to India.

"With Michael and Ricky going there was a gap in experience, and Chris nicely fills that - he's made nearly 20,000 first-class runs. The first Test starts in 11 weeks' time, there's a lot of water to go under the bridge, but Michael as captain and Mickey Arthur as coach in particular will sort that out with batting order and which of the seven are selected. Michael and I have no concerns about any of those batsmen batting anywhere in the top six.

"We're always very mindful of looking forward and selecting accordingly at times, but quite obviously this time it had always been our intention to revert to getting the absolute strongest side for this contest, that's been uppermost in our minds and that's the way we've selected."

Clarke expressed satisfaction that the squad chosen had an ideal balance of players young and old, in keeping with the profiles of successful teams he had observed or been a part of in the past.

"The best teams I've seen in any sport have a good mix of youth and experience. I think this squad has that mix," Clarke said. "I'm confident we have a good group of players that can learn from one another as well as utilise the coaches that we have.


Brad Haddin reacts after dropping Gautam Gambhir, Australia v India, 2nd Test, Sydney, 3rd day, January 5, 2012
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"If you look through a lot of players' careers you go through ups and downs, you have tough tours and that makes you a better player and a stronger person, and I believe we've learned a lot from India, as individuals but also as a team. We're going to be playing in a lot different conditions to what we faced in India, against a completely different opposition, and I have faith that with the learning and experience of India, we'll have success in England."

Faulkner's inclusion added fire and versatility to the squad, illustrated by a past summer in which the Tasmanian showed both the nerve to sledge Chris Gayle and the composure to guide the Tigers to the Sheffield Shield. Inverarity described Faulkner as the sort of player who "gets things done", a phrase that cannot have escaped the attention of Watson, who will be expected to score heavily in the warm-up matches in Taunton and Worcester to retain his place.

"James Faulkner has impressed us all in recent months and recent seasons," Inverarity said. "He's a very competitive cricketer who gets things done - he's never long out of the game. His batting has improved significantly, he's made runs, he's formed partnerships and he's always lurking and taking a wicket."

While the India tourists Mitchell Johnson, Glenn Maxwell, Xavier Doherty and Moises Henriques were unsurprisingly left out, Steven Smith was the most unfortunate casualty, having made doughty runs in each of the final two Tests. However it was felt that Rogers and Usman Khawaja provided better batting options in England. Smith had to be content with a place as vice-captain on the Australia A tour that precedes the Ashes.

Jackson Bird returned to national duty after leaving the Indian tour due to injury and Ryan Harris was also recalled, having missed most of the Australian home summer as he recovered from shoulder surgery. Peter Siddle, James Pattinson and Mitchell Starc completed a muscular pace quintet.

The incumbent Test wicketkeeper Matthew Wade was named in the squad, but Inverarity said the intention was for the new vice-captain, Haddin, to be the first-choice gloveman.

"In regards to the vice-captaincy, we feel it's important to have a senior, seasoned player support Michael at this time," Inverarity said. "When Shane Watson advised of his decision to stand down, the NSP viewed Brad as the exceptional candidate to step into this leadership void. Matthew Wade is a very good cricketer and remains central to our plans for the future."

The selectors also announced an Australia A squad to play in England ahead of the Ashes and including several of the team's frontline bowlers with the aim of giving them as much time as possible to adjust to the English conditions. Haddin will captain the A team, which includes Nathan Lyon, the only spinner in the Ashes squad, as well as the slow left-armer Ashton Agar. Inverarity said the legspinner Fawad Ahmed, who is unlikely to be eligible to play for Australia until near the end of the Ashes series, was still in Ashes contention.

"Fawad Ahmed, those of us who have seen him bowl have been very impressed with him," Inverarity said. "He's a very good legspinner and yes he does remain in contention. We've selected 16 players and we state now that should the need arise we will add to the squad. We don't know when he's going to become eligible, but there's always that possibility."

Ashes squad Michael Clarke (capt), Brad Haddin (vice-capt, wk), David Warner, Ed Cowan, Phillip Hughes, Shane Watson, Usman Khawaja, Chris Rogers, Matthew Wade (wk), James Faulkner, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon, Jackson Bird.

Australia A squad Brad Haddin (capt), Steven Smith (vice-capt), Ashton Agar, Jackson Bird, Alex Doolan, Ryan Harris, Moises Henriques, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Nic Maddinson, James Pattinson, Chadd Sayers, Peter Siddle, Jordan Silk.

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Posted by   on (April 30, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

question for the oz selectores...where is simon katich?????? he is out of the team just cuz michael clarke dont want him in the team???

Posted by Sanj747 on (April 29, 2013, 23:01 GMT)

Not a bad squad. Some common sense has finally prevailed with the selectors. Interesting that the chosen one Glen Maxwell has been left out and rightly so. Should never have gone to India. Rogers will provide some top order stability. The poms will sort Warner out quick smart. Cowan needs to play a true opener's role and learn from Rogers. Wade deservedly not the first choice keeper. Hartley from Queensland is a better bet as the second choice and groom him to take over long term.

Posted by Wefinishthis on (April 28, 2013, 23:12 GMT)

The only real mistake in this squad is omitting O'Keefe, but I'm very happy to see Rogers, Faulkner, Bird and Harris picked. I just hope that Starc doesn't perform early in the series as it means he'll be retained and then his inconsistency and poor form with the red ball will likely kick in, right when we need to win the series and then we'll go on to lose. I would have liked to see D.Hussey, Sandu, Zampa, Cosgrove and Burns in the Aus A squad, but I'm happy to see Silk and Sayers in there at least. I would love to see Bird and Pattinson opening the bowling on Day 1 though. That would be really show the poms that things really will be different this time around. My ideal team would have been: Warner, Rogers, Burns, Cosgrove, Clarke, D.Hussey, Wade, O'Keefe, Pattinson, Harris, Bird w/Silk or Faulkner as 12th man.

Posted by Micky.Panda on (April 28, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

Its a pretty good squad for once. I had been screaming for Rogers for so long. I would go Rogers, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Haddin, Watson/Faulkner, Siddle, Pattinson, Bird, Lyon. I don't see how to fit Cowan in. Only ever scored big on a batsman's paradise pitch.

Posted by Meety on (April 28, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

@Beertjie on (April 26, 2013, 10:57 GMT) - at the moment he is amongst our 3 batsmen of the last 2 years (eligible), & averages around 40. I wouldn't be moving him anywhere until he has played in that position @ Shield level. IMO he is the least of our batting worries!

Posted by   on (April 26, 2013, 17:48 GMT)

Doesn't matter whether Harris will be playing or not, Current Form of Aussies and the performance of the players makes a difficult Story for the Aussies. Ingenuousness Team, Key players out of the form, injury making a painful future story for them. CA could not produce even a single quality spinner after Warne. Pitch Curators are the spinners in the team. This team was never like this before. Built by Mark Taylor and went ahead by Steve Waugh. They need strong shoulder of Watson and Clarke. Not even a single player apart from these two seems to be a player who can play ASHES. Easiest Series will be for the English to win & they should go for the White Wash I reckon. Good Luck Harris and of course Australia ( desperately needed)

Posted by Beertjie on (April 26, 2013, 10:57 GMT)

I'm no fan of Cowan, @Meety on (April 25, 2013, 1:20 GMT), but if you've looked at the stats comparison provided by @ Greatest_Game on (April 24, 2013, 15:24 GMT), you'll see a compelling case for Warner (initially, anyway) at 6. With Rogers there Clarke will have (a) a likely partner to build a partnership, or (b) someone taking the shine off the ball AND (unlike Cowan) scoring runs at a decent clip.

Posted by   on (April 26, 2013, 2:02 GMT)

@ Yasin123Patel the average test batsmen can score freely vs Indian seam bowlers. Anderson & co in English conditions will present a much greater challenge.

Posted by Nerk on (April 26, 2013, 1:35 GMT)

Finally, after years of having no idea what they were doing, the selectors have settled on something. A collection of young players and experienced campaigners! Who would have thunk it? Little disappointed O'Keefe missed out, I think SLA bowlers have a fairly good time in England, but Lyon is a tough dog who should do well enough. I also think, given Australia's performances in India and the rise of Panesar and Swan we may see some strangely dry, turning wickets this English summer! Nevertheless, a good squad that should, if not win, do Australia proud.

Posted by Meety on (April 26, 2013, 1:09 GMT)

@Jono Makim - re: Spinning tracks. I will be eager to see what is produced. I believe there has been a quote from Lord Dexter to the effect of - "we should prepare turning tracks so we can play Panesar & Swann together" (not verbatim). So I will be bemused if they were to "stoop" to that ploy. I think the weather has been a lot more helpful this season in England - so I don't think we will have the pitches v Sth Africa where they were sluggish due to lack of preparation.

Posted by kaos2 on (April 25, 2013, 23:53 GMT)

We will play on the driest wickets weather permits. One spinner is an issue. I'd take O'Keefe ahead of Faulkner - there's already plenty of seamers in the squad.....

Posted by   on (April 25, 2013, 19:54 GMT)

hopefully these ashes will bring australia into life,as a saffer feel sad not seeing an australian team at peak....they bring excitment to the game of cricket!

Posted by Yasin123Patel on (April 25, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

Hughes should be in playing 11 for me. Because his batting against seam is improved. And we see it in india. Whenever he get chance to play against seam, he scored freely. Cowan need more temperament and concentration to score big. I closely follow him in county and he hit 2 50s in it. So he is a good player but just need some work and add some shot in his range like streight drive or cover drive. He play squerer more so he need learn to play streighter too.

Posted by Orsoncarte on (April 25, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

I don't think the selectors could have done any better than this squad. The Australia A squad is also well balanced, but I would have liked to see the inclusion of Joe Burns, not necessarily at anyone's expense, but as a 15th member of the squad. I also hope that Khawaja receives sufficient opportunities to prove, one way or another, his ability or lack thereof. It was a WOFTAM taking him to India to warm the bench.

Posted by AKS286 on (April 25, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

After Ashes Siddle, Haddin is gonna retire. VC is the reward before retiring.

Posted by reddawn1975 on (April 25, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

I really think the two Marsh brothers should be in this squad and also Hilfy and Tim Paine should have been given the gloves not haddin he was good in his day move on Tim Paine is a very talented player.I really think they could have picked a couple of batters i am really worried about Ed Cowan he really hasn't done much at all and Warner well who knows we have some good Batmen in Australia.And the big one Mitchell Johnson he was in good form he had the Indian batsman jumping around he had an excellent Australian summer i think there mental for not picking him stuff the past he is a pure gun

Posted by ScottStevo on (April 25, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

More of the same from the selectors here and the inclusion of Haddin and Rodgers reeks of England circa 90's desperation...To those of you saying Rogers is an older head - he's not! He's a 35 year old rookie at international level. Completely ridiculous choice. Another lefty plus another opener. Isn't the idea of bringing in an older bloke to sure up our middle order? Haddin back in the squad isn't as bad, but why not just bring Paine in - who due to injury has somehow been completely dropped in the pecking order. Faulkner is another bad choice - reminds of N Bracken. Good limited overs, nothing doing in tests...we'll see. Surely he won't play if Watson is to bowl. Khawaja is in the squad again - but will they actually play the bloke - who knows! Assuming Rogers isn't coming to make up the numbers, the team is?? Cowan, Warner, hughes, Watson, Clarke, Rogers, Haddin, Starc, Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon? Watson not bowling - Cowan Warner Hughes Rogers Clarke Khawaja Haddin Faulkner...????????

Posted by Vivekaks on (April 25, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

I truly believe Australia has a very potent bowling attack. Batting definitely remains a worry.

Siddle, Pattison, Starc are really good and will have to be managed pretty well in the english conditions. To me Starc will be the biggest threat to the POMs. He has swing and pace, a potent combo in english conditions.

If Australia lose ashes it would be because of their batting. Its really brittle with the exception of Clarke.

If Watson comes to the fore, we could see a good contest. Otherwise it would remain one way traffic.

On English front, Cook remains the lynchpin, not sure about their bowling. Anderson seems dated and spinners could play a significant part, but tats as far as it gets. If Starc and co find the rhythm Trott, Bell will scurry for cover.

Posted by KhanMitch on (April 25, 2013, 9:13 GMT)

1. Ed Cowan 2. David Warner 3. Phill Huges 4. Usman Khawaja 5. Michael Clarke 6. Brad Haddin 7. Shane Watson 8. Mitchell Starc 9. Peter Siddle 10. Ryan Harris 11. Nathan Lyon/

If we need more spinners hopefully before the ashes Clarky will practice his bowling then we have possibly two good spinners. We need more effort out of Cowan, Warner and Khawaja and the tail enders should pitch in like Starcy and Siddle did in India. Clarky and Watto0 I think we need to get more out of them to win back the ashes and return it to its rightful place in Australia

Posted by Chris_P on (April 25, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

@Rajeev129. Want to try reading the teams again. Bird AND Harris are both in the Ashes team and the "A" team.

Posted by Rajeev129 on (April 25, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

Its a big joke. Jackson Bird in ashes and Ryan Harris in 'A'.

Posted by   on (April 25, 2013, 6:52 GMT)

Mitchell Johnson shouldn't be sad for being left out. He will be brought in for the third test match as a specialist batsmen. This team stands no chance against England.

Posted by DINESHCC on (April 25, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

Overall it is a good squad but the omission of Ben Hilfenhaus is shocking. It looks strong batting lineup as almost all the bowlers are good batsman too excepting Nathan lyon (no idea about Jackson Bird).

Posted by Buckers97 on (April 25, 2013, 6:17 GMT)

My only disapointment is the ommision of Steve Smith. Getting half as many runs as Phill Hughes and David Warner in half as many tests is not good enough to even get in the squad! The fact that we are taking one spinner must mean that we are going to play 4 quicks in at least 2 tests. O'keefe or Agar would have been good back-up. Team looks good other wise. Faulkner could be a very good selection. He CAN bat at 6. So: 1.Rogers 2.Cowan 3.Hughes 4.Khawaja 5.Clarke (c) 6.Faulkner 7.Haddin (wk) 8.Starc 9.Siddle 10.Harris 11.Lyon

Posted by   on (April 25, 2013, 5:51 GMT)

Lol at everyone expecting turning tracks. I don't ever recall seeing big turning tracks there, not unless Warnie was playing. In any case it was the variable bounce in India that bought the Aussie batsmen undone and that certainly won't happen in England until day four/five, rather than ball four/five of the match.

@Chris_P, I can see the bruising on your forehead from here mate! Some people just don't get it. I think after 9 matches Dhuss had a top score of 34 or something, only a late flourish saved him from batting stats that may well have been attributed to Shaun Marsh.

@Landl47, heres hoping none of Clarke, Haddin or Watto play in one of the tests, then we can field a top 9 of all lefties! Seriously though, I think Haddin will obviously be playing with Wade benched. Top three stays the same with Rogers, Clarke and Watson forming the middle order and then Hadds and four bowlers, pretty simple. Birds role in the team is to bowl ;-) Any more questions?

Posted by jonesy2 on (April 25, 2013, 4:12 GMT)

great squad. no real surprises. faulkner a no brainer it was between him and mitch marsh and marsh hasnt been playing enough and faulkner has and is a brilliant allrounder i think he should bat at 6. easily good enough to whitewash england and that is what i will be expecting aside from rain there is no stopping this team

Posted by   on (April 25, 2013, 3:48 GMT)

No Hilfenhaus to take to England..... This is ridiculous!!!

Posted by   on (April 25, 2013, 3:38 GMT)

i think the Aussie squad is good. It'll be a great series.where's Pat Cummins?

Posted by Chris_P on (April 25, 2013, 3:22 GMT)

@OnlyKaps, Although Hilfenhaus was considered, the bowlers selected ahead of him all represent better value both long & short term. Given Pattinson, Siddle, Starc, were always going & Faulkner & Bird deserved to go with the future in mind & performances (better than Hilfy's) for the season, that left it between Harris & Hilfy to fight it out in the Sheffield Shield final. With Harris clearly outbowling Hilfenhaus (whilst in a losing team) gaining more pace & swing than him as well as being more economical sealed it. Either would have suited, but I think the Shield Final secured Harris the spot IMHO.

Posted by Chris_P on (April 25, 2013, 3:09 GMT)

@OnlyKaps. Do you know the difference between first class cricket & 50 over matches? Tests are first class, country cricket is first class, Sheffield Shield is first class, Ryobi Cup is not, BBL & IPL is not. I will repeat, Hussey averaged 23 & Marsh 19 in the just concluded Australian first class season and THAT is the reason they were not considered for the Ashes tour. Is this not simple enough to understand?

Posted by Alexei on (April 25, 2013, 2:50 GMT)

I don't understand... are they comparing James Faulkner's allround abilities and stats to Shane Watson's, I'm confused. Look, Faulkner is not that good.. in any format, well maybe in T20 cricket. This is a weak squad, too many holes. It just looks as if the selectors are hoping something magic happens from this batting order. If I am to speak based on form, the english bowlers will run through this austrailian line up 8 times out of 10

Posted by OnlyKaps on (April 25, 2013, 2:38 GMT)

@Chris_P: Go check these links ( see recent matches). your "averages" stats is like saying the average depth of the river is 50 metres. Marsh: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/6683.html Marsh has two unbeaten hundreds plus knocks of 84, 68, 47n.o, 40, in the last 3.5 months (11 innings) Hussey:http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5766.html Hussey has a 112, 62, 48 in the Sheff and two knocks of 40 in the IPL ( last 3 months, 11 innings

Also when youre on a Ashes tour you'd think that guys whove played a lot of cricket in England and in varied conditions would be automatic choices, particularly after the disastrous Indian tour. Ben Hilfenhaus: I think hes still the best swing bowler around . With Henriques also missing out it looks a bit bare Recent records dont seem to indicate there is a better performance from a swing bowler. Worth a fitness gamble I'd say. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5941.html ( 23 wickets for 527 runs at 22.86 in 2013)

Posted by YS_USA on (April 25, 2013, 2:15 GMT)

It looks that Aussies have a good bowling attack, and it will work better in UK than it did in India, but their batting is weak. Most probably they will lose matches in UK and win at home.

Posted by Meety on (April 25, 2013, 1:20 GMT)

@ Beertjie on (April 24, 2013, 11:20 GMT) - my ONLY doubt about Warner down the order is, he basically hasn't batted low in the order since his FC debut. Hitting down the order is good, but so is nurdling (ala Hussey). I think Clarke @ #4 is now a must, but if he starts failing there - I'd have him back @ #5 in a jiffy!

Posted by Allaneme on (April 24, 2013, 22:21 GMT)

Looks like a pretty good team. A good fast bowling line-up for sure. I think the poms will get a bit of a surprise in that department. One thing they won't be surprised about is the ease with which they will be able to get Phil Hughes out. Easily the worst top order player of spin and swing I have seen in 40 years. Keep him for the 20/20 rubbish. Steve Smith (or indeed almost anyone), would have been a much better choice.

Posted by KiwiPom on (April 24, 2013, 21:52 GMT)

Take a first glance at this and the first thing that hits you is that there are too many journeymen. But Inverarity is no fool and I'm betting that he understands the character of the players and has selected accordingly. For me the biggest problem is the brittleness of the batting. It's the sort of line up that could lose a test in one bad session. But the England bowling attack is overrated and too much depends on Anderson. I'm seeing Rogers as a key player here. If he can bring the stability that he's been selected for collapses can be avoided. I'm also seeing Wade playing as a batsman and runs from Siddle being necessary in some games.

Posted by Chris_P on (April 24, 2013, 21:30 GMT)

@OnlyKaps, OK you asked the question & seeing that you don' t follow Aussie cricket, here are the reasons. Marsh, 152 runs @ 19 for the season (ripping form??), dropped by Western Australia & still failing to make runs in Perth grade. Hussey 358 runs @ 23.86 (picked a bad time to lose form), Hilfenhaus came back from injury & didn't bowl well enough to force his way ahead of more deserving players. MoHen was unlucky & should have been selected ahead of Watson, Fawad's efforts are behind Steven O'Keefe's (who also deserved a spot), while Sandhu, still promising is about 15th in line of pace bowlers in Australia. In NSW alone, he is behind Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood, Copeland & Bollinger so let's try to get some reason here.

Posted by cricket-is-passion on (April 24, 2013, 21:21 GMT)

Aussies VC selection seems quite hurting players. Watto was VC before this selection and Haddin was nowhere in the picture infact not even in the team but now all of a sudden he was selected and became VC straight. VC should be who can take over the lead later on. I think selection committee should earn respect but with this inconsistency committee loses its respect. I am happy for Haddin selection as he is one of the competitive player but changing the responsibility hurts players moral.

Posted by SidsIPLTeam on (April 24, 2013, 20:43 GMT)

Overjoyed to hear the news of Rogers finally making his way into the Australian Team. Feel sad for Brad Hodge who has had a similar career as Rogers' but unfortunately failed to get his chance. But, credit where it is due. Want to take this opportunity to congratulate the Australian selectors for giving Chris another shot and recalling Haddin. This looks a much better squad and they need to come good. Australia has too many good players waiting to have to rebuild for so long, and Ashes seems to be the perfect platform to turn things around. Best wishes..!!

Posted by Northernskies on (April 24, 2013, 20:21 GMT)

Bold and largely commendable decisions from the panel. Certainly Rogers and Harris have earned there call ups. Despite the attrocious batting in India, there are batsmen who have made runs in England so perhaps there is room for some optimism, but realistically the experience and talent opposing them on the English side is on another Par. Four of England's top six have double tons. If Clarke's back goes? What then? Haddin and Wade in the same team?Equally Harris is quite likely, if not certainly, going to break down. The other worry would be only one specialist spinner. If we get turning pitches, which England must consider given recent events, it'll be no contest. But the cupboard is bare, so what choice is there?

Posted by starvingcreative on (April 24, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

I think this a good squad for the first time in awhile but what worries me is the constant change! One minute haddin is your number one then wade then haddin again? Next smith was ahead of khwaja in india now hes ahead of smith again without smith doing anything wrong really? Lets see what haapens

Posted by CarlP on (April 24, 2013, 18:28 GMT)

I think I'd back some of the average English sides of the 90's to beat this squad. Rogers is no better than an average cricketer who isn't used to scoring runs against attacks of the consistant quality you find in international cricket.

Hughes is a massively overated player who continues to get found out by decent bowlers.

I can't be bothered to go on as you could pick holes in every player in the squad apart from Clarke who is world class and Siddle who could prove very effective in English conditions (Watson would also be on this list be his head might not be in the right place).

England should walk the ashes but as always in sport the underdog has a chance so no-one should be written off just yet! For the record I think it will be 3v0 England

Posted by Beertjie on (April 24, 2013, 18:16 GMT)

It would be wonderful to stuff down the throat of FFL @Jono Makim on (April 24, 2013, 8:14 GMT), if Fawad out-bowled Swann at the Oval and we regained the Ashes. I've been pondering that scenario a while because it will take time for our best XI to emerge. By the 5th test it might read Watson, Warner, Rogers, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Haddin, Starc, Pattinson, Harris, Fawad. If it's level at that stage (and its a big if) AND MC wins the toss 2009 may be reversed!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

For the first test, the starting line up should be: Rogers, Warner, Cowan, Khwaja, Clarke, Watson, Haddin, Siddle, Starc, Pattinson, Lyon. Clarke will go back to batting at #5 for sure. It is time Watson drops down to #6. I loved him as an opener, but with Cowan and Rogers around- doubt he will ever be able to do that.

Posted by Jaffa79 on (April 24, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

The worst thing about Australian cricket has been the selectors over the last few years: the decision to pick a 17 man squad before the 1st Test at Brisbane, continually picking Doherty, bringing back Johnson when there are much better young quicks, not picking Khawaja etc but here I feel they have got it right. Rogers should always have been picked over Cowan and Hughes who aren't good enough, Haddin is a proper keeper and they have not picked Smith, who would be a walking wicket in England. I still think England will win but I think this is the best possible Australian team. I'd pick Wade as a bat and get Cowan or Hughes out of the team and go with 4 quicks. It is their best chance I reckon.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 16:56 GMT)

I'm sorry but i just can't except B Haddin being back in the team.Why? There is no future in playing him he's what 35 going 36 C Rogers is the same.Go with youth short term pain for long term gain.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

Johnson left out because of the history of his 2009 waywardness? Australia's batting depth is weakened by Mitchell's non-selection. His absence from the Australia A side is even more unfair on him.Mickey Arthur & Michael Clarke also fail the leadership test by not insisting upon Mitchell to so improve his batting that he could be selected on the back of his batting skills. Perhaps not being as consistent as Greg Matthews during Australia's hard times in the mid 1980s or as frequently match-turning brilliant as England's Andrew Flintoff between 2003 & 2005 BUT England's bowling attack is not spin-centric like those provided by India,Pakistan and Sri Lanka are AND batting depth against the old ball,especially when reverse swing comes into play at Nottingham,Manchester, & 4th day pitches at Leeds & Lords WILL be a necessity. Starc & Pattinson may have good batting pedigrees but their bowling workloads are going to be so heavy that they aren't assured of being in all of the 10 ashes tests

Posted by cricket-india on (April 24, 2013, 16:31 GMT)

it's a heavy workload for all players english and australian; expect to see a lot of changes as the tests progress.

Posted by Charlie101 on (April 24, 2013, 16:19 GMT)

As an England supporter I was hoping to see Mitchel Johnson and Glenn Maxwell in the squad but it seems the Aussie selectors are learning. It looks a good squad and Haddin will improve the Aussie team spirit and mend a few bridges after the Indian homework issues. We are going to have to play our best cricket to win.

Posted by cricketfanwrites on (April 24, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

Finally!!! CA has selected a squad that will give them a chance to compete. Competing gives anyone a chance to win. Australia has a large enough pool of performing cricketers, hence CA should ALWAYS select a team of 'today' with a mix of youth and experience.

Building for the future are for lesser countries without the resources such as Australia.

I've been very critical of CA when the announced the tour squad for India. I can now give them some credit here. I've been critical of Clarke's leadership too. Lets see how he leads with a this squad. The jury is still out - lets evaluate him after this series is over.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

I don't know about the form of Peter Forest but he's a very good striker of the cricket, he should be in the squad and Brad Hodge should also be in the team cuz he is still one of the best. And that phil Hughes guy, I've never seen him any shots than squere cut. And i dun think he'll ever learn to play spin. Against spin he's just a 10 year boy batting against shoaib akhter!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 15:35 GMT)

i think this is a solid squad,a good bowling attack that's sure to get some help in english conditions.What has happened to Johnson? a suprise omission for me and one the aussies may regret. Pleased that haddin is back there's no substitute for a good gloveman,and predict Lyon to have a good tour.All in all i see a tight series that is too close to call.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 24, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

As an opener, Warner is a liability for Aus! He's more a no. 6 or 7.

30% of his inns he's out within facing 15 balls, instead of taking off the shine, seeing off the attack for a session, & protecting the middle order. He'll attack, & soon be out - caught 71% of dismissals! The "hit or miss" Sewag style opener only works with a Dravid padded up. Aus has no "wall."

"Opener Stats:" Warner vs Cowan.

Warner - 34 inngs: 3 centuries, 7 fifties, & 21 scores below 30. (62%.) 2 not-out, 4 bowled, 4 lbw, 24 caught! BALLS FACED 1808 - ave 53 per innings. Dismissals within 15 balls - TEN.

Cowan - 30 inngs: 1 century, 6 fifties, 16 scores below 30. (53%.) 1 stumped, 2 run out, 4 bowled, 11 lbw, 12 caught. BALLS FACED 2381 - ave 79 per inngs. Dismissals within 15 balls - FOUR

Don't believe the hype. Cowan's not flashy, but he fails less & stays around to protect the middle. Warner often fails, exposing Aus' biggest weakness.

Cowan is the more valuable test opener. Send Warner down the order!

Posted by Gordo85 on (April 24, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

Good to see no Johnson. He needs to learn.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (April 24, 2013, 13:53 GMT)

Finally we have the identity of the 2013 tourists. There has been a certain amount of speculation and now with the questions answered mostly the names expected are in with maybe one or two question marks. One name not mentioned anywhere is Hilfenhaus, who has blown hot and cold a lot. I wonder though if England is not his patch. Bird is presumably the player in his stead though he limped off after a test. Harris has been touted as the most fearsome bowler around, but he was hardly successful in 2010/11. Is he that much better now? I do not think that these bowers will give Cook in particular, but Trott and Compton too many sleepless nights. Siddle is good honest John bowler but not a worldbeater. Pattinson has an affinity for the physio's bed and probably Starc will have too by the time it's over. Still the bowling is far stronger than the batting,which is 5 nonentities plus Clarke. IF Swann and Piietersen are fit, and Broad and Tremlett stay that way, England should win...3-1?

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

Seriuosly, selectors and Cricket Australia have no idea ! They are spinning on their heads and do not know in what direction they are heading. After arrogantly dropping some of their best players for younger ones, they are now heading back to the future. I am throwing my hands up in the air and saying with much dismay " I told you so "

Posted by YL89 on (April 24, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

Happy with the squad, sensible decisions made by the selectors. I feel it's the right decision to bring Haddin back in as vice captain and first choice keeper. Wade's glovework has been mercilessly exposed lately, and Haddin is quite simply the better all round player at this point as well as adding much needed experience and leadership qualities. He will need to drastically improve his glovework from the last Ashes tour, however.

Team for the first test: Cowan, Warner, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Haddin, Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon, Bird.

Fantastic to see Jordan Silk in the 'A' squad, he's made a very impressive start to his first class career here in Tasmania. Also good to see Chadd Sayers rewarded for a fine Shield campaign. However I'm slightly surprised that Gurinder Sandhu wasn't included, considering they picked a player of similar age and experience in Silk.

Posted by theoldmanandthesea on (April 24, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

Cannot fathom why George Bailey is not in either of these squads.

Posted by dean67 on (April 24, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

What a relief this squad is - I was fearful that Rogers (& possibly Bird) would not be picked when they should be 2nd batsman and bowler on the list. Personally I would select Hartley ahead of Wade - an infinitely better gloveman and not that inferior with the bat and although i am not a fan I think Steve Smith is unlucky. Lets hope we get the XI right - my choice: WARNER COWAN ROGERS CLARKE WATSON KHAWAJA HADDIN HARRIS PATTINSON LYON BIRD

PS: Not wishing to sound parochial but QLD have been come 1st & 2nd in the Shield in the past 2 seasons, hold the 1 day & 20-20 titles but only have 2 player in the top 23 in the country

Posted by wayno1971 on (April 24, 2013, 13:09 GMT)

People like to remind us of India and while it not very pleasing to watch it must be remembered that we've won there once in 30 - 40 years but it was the way we lost that was disheartening, we'll go alright in England, our quicks will go great guns, we need our batsmen to stand up and post reasonable totals if anything

Posted by Sachit1979 on (April 24, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

Inclusion of Rogers is a welcome move. But still lot of burden on Lyon. He should have been backed with Steve O'Keefe on cost of one seamer. Also I would have preferred Tim Paine instead of Wade.

Posted by hyclass on (April 24, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

I think if this squad demonstrates anything, it is the complete absence of any value in any of the previous selection policies or the endless public rhetoric by CA. Not one of their stated rationales had any influence on who was chosen in this squad. A soggy cornflake could have done a better job over the last 5 years and the wasted resources and harm to Australian 1st Class cricket has been significant.Gallingly, these selectors and coaches actually get paid for this tripe. Fortunately, this squad is far closer to the mark than previous ones. Selecting for the future is as absurd.Pick the best eleven now-always. It hasnt helped any of the incumbents perform better and has left those outside the squad wondering by what measure they might be selected. Rogers has churned out endlessly far better seasons than his last without rating a mention.There's a certain hypocrisy in the NSP suddenly claiming any special knowledge in regards to his selection. Everyone at home has known it for years.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 13:03 GMT)

If i was an authoritive figure for Cricket-Australia, asking (not begging) Michael Hussey to come out of retirement for the back2back Ashes series would've been a priority. The batting performance in the recent series versus India raised alot of eyebrows and experienced players such as Brad Hodge and David Hussey should've been considered. Selecting Chris Rogers was a good call, his experience in English conditions should be a big bonus. And the possibility of playing both keepers Haddin and Wade in the line up, has more stability in the batting line-up then Hughes and Khawaja. 1.Warner, 2.Cowan, 3.Rogers, 4.Clarke, 5.Watson, 6.Wade, 7.Haddin (wk). The bowlers are the strongest part of Australia's team at the moment and whichever combination was decided, they would function well in English conditions.

Posted by Apocalypse_EX on (April 24, 2013, 12:53 GMT)

Its actually a very good squad, in fact the best possible combination.Even if Australia lose it will be with what is probably their best squad

Posted by Gazooligan on (April 24, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

A few have commented on the wunderkind Maxwell's omission from this squad. The reality is that he has worked out it's far easier to make a living being paid huge amounts to simply watch cricket,.. like he is currently in the IPL.

Posted by hycIass on (April 24, 2013, 12:35 GMT)

Selectors have finally gotten it right! Planning for the future does not mean having 11 payers under the age of 25. There's plenty of youth in there now with the likes of Khawaja and Warner to fire for us as they are 2 of our best young batsman, and those that aren't will be better off in Shield for a couple more years - they're certainly not good enough now anyway. Haddin is a better keeper than Wade. Wade's a great prospect and he'll improve now that we've stopped rewarding his sloppy keeping. In a year's time he'll be better. And Rogers is better than Cowan - full stop. Since when has being left out of the Aussie side hurt your long term prospects? Ask Hayden, Lehmann, Hussey, Langer, Martyn and Katich whether being dropped or left out of the team for large periods of time ruined their abilities...

Posted by hhillbumper on (April 24, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

what has watson done to deserve to be picked? Does he get in on IPL form?

Posted by blink182alex on (April 24, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

I am actually pleased with the squad chosen. Ryan Harris is the best quick we have so his return was common sense. Matthew Wade has just dropped too many catches and it has cost us, Haddin adds experience and has a good record against England and has coped well in English conditions. Whilst Chris Rogers is clearly in the top 6 batsmen in the country. With no Hussey or Ponting there is a lack of experience in the batting and Rogers has tons of experience scoring 100's in county cricket. Jackson Bird has done too well to be left out.

There is no Maxwell, Henriques and Smith so that's good news. Hilfenhaus has lost his action and Johnson is an excellent cricketer but is 6th quick in line.

Posted by landl47 on (April 24, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

It's an interesting squad. CA has gone out on a limb here; if the side does well, they're geniuses, if not, they were crazy.

Here are some questions- not comments: Who keeps wicket? Which of the 5 openers plays at #4 or lower? Are 4 bowlers or 5 going to play? Is Watson being considered as an all-rounder? Are Rogers and Harris first-string players or back-ups? If they play, who is dropped? What is Bird's role? Why two young left-handed seamers, given that neither seems to be a first-choice bowler? Where does Clarke bat? If Watson and Haddin don't play, Aus will have 6 left-handers in the first 7- is that feasible?

I've said all along it will be a tough series. I still think so, but at this point I just don't know who England will be playing against. Perhaps that's part of the plan?

Posted by RandyOZ on (April 24, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

Probably the best squad we could have asked for if you consider how bad the selectors are. The pace attack make England's medium paced trundlers look pedestrian.

Posted by vrn59 on (April 24, 2013, 12:21 GMT)

My ideal AUS Test XI (although highly unlikely): Shane Watson, Chris Rogers, Shaun Marsh, Phillip Hughes, Michael Clarke (C), Usman Khawaja / David Warner, Brad Haddin (wk), Ryan Harris, James Pattinson, Peter Siddle, Nathan Lyon. Ed Cowan is a fantastic team player and has good temperament, but just hasn't performed well enough. Warner has been inconsistent and immature, and might benefit from a middle-order berth which could allow him to play his shots and then utilise his skills as an opener against the second new ball. Haddin is a fighter with a good past Ashes record. Harris and Pattinson could both be deadly if fit. Even at 33, Harris is a fantastic, highly skilled bowler, and Pattinson combines pace and aggression brilliantly. Siddle is a valuable, hard-working bowler and Lyon can provide steady support. Clarke is key, as captain and batsman. Watson is miles better as an opener and can feed off the experience of Rogers at the other end. Marsh and Hughes need extended time.

Posted by vrn59 on (April 24, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

Very curious about Ben Hilfenhaus' fitness... how long will he be out for?

Posted by Shaggy076 on (April 24, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

OnlyKaps - S Marsh and D Hussey sadly there shield batting averages last season were half there age. Not sure where Marsh good form has come from he has been injured the last two months and still going to be on the sidelines for some time. Danish Obaid; No Fawad Ahmed was granted asylum he wont be officially able to play for AUstralia until July. I think its a great squad, I would have taken another quick over probably Hilfenhaus but happy with the squad. My first team would be Cowan, Warner, Hughes, Rogers, Clarke, Watson, Wade, Pattinson, Harris, Starc and Lyon.

Posted by peeeeet on (April 24, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

This is arguably the strongest squad they could pick, so credit to the selectors here, although there coul yet again be arguments for the inclusion of O'Keefe. Now it comes down to choosing the playing eleven, and if I was to go by form I would go Cowan, Warner, Rogers, Clarke, then the next two get filled by whoever does best out of Watson, Khawaja and Hughes in the warm ups. Haddin at 7, only because he is VC. Then you choose Siddle and the two most in form seamers + Lyon. When you look at it like that, it's the strongest side we could possibly put forward.

Posted by AKS286 on (April 24, 2013, 11:32 GMT)

S.Marsh is the next Brad Hodge.

Posted by Fareen on (April 24, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

A good squad. However, only 1 spinner in the side may cost Australia though I understand they don't have too many options. Also, Hughes could have been dropped for players like Bailey, Marsh, Doolan or Smith. But overall, it's a squad that would give England a proper fight if they play to their potential.

Posted by AKS286 on (April 24, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

poor selection- Inclusion of khawaja instead of S.Marsh, Smith,Silk, Klinger,Voges & Doolan. no Mitch Johnson, no spinner, selection of Faulkner on the basis of T20. No all rounders too many bowlers, Haddin will be axed after Ashes'13 loss, So haddin gets a fare-well reward of VC. Moises is suitable for Eng wicket and he got chance in India. Last chance for Warner. England will repeat dominant win.

Posted by Beertjie on (April 24, 2013, 11:20 GMT)

Some challenging ideas, @Meety on (April 24, 2013, 4:31 GMT). Not telling Watson he's on a last chance and dropping him if he fails with the bat is sensible - so is having him open so he can have no complaints. Cowan in the wings is ideal, too. But surely Hughes is an opener and not #4? Watson and Hughes would be more logical (they opened in SA) with Rogers at #3. If both failed Rogers could be bumped up to open alongside Cowan, with Khawaja at #3. But Clarke at #4 is simply non-negotiable as I think he himself now accepts. All of this means Warner needs to come down the order where a natural hitter is needed. Of course he still has to negotiate Swann there but Hughes would be better off opening than facing Swann which would happen unless there were two early wickets.

Posted by AKS286 on (April 24, 2013, 11:19 GMT)

Clarke kindly go up with Cowan, M.Waste, khawaja, lyon, starc. So, CA will take strong decisions and throw out all clarke's boy after Ashes'13 defeat.

Posted by OnlyKaps on (April 24, 2013, 11:13 GMT)

What happened to Shaun Marsh (age 28) and David Hussey(35) - wouldnt they have been better bets ? Hussey has tons of English experience and Shaun Marsh is in ripping form. Why hasnt ben Hilfenhaus been able to be rehabilitated in time ? He would have been a strike bowler in English conditions. Henriques is unlucky to lose out as well. Fawad and Sandhu need to be blooded quickly

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 11:09 GMT)

Wasn't Fawad Ahmad granted the Aussie citizenship earliar? Why is he not eligible yet? If they "have been very impressed with him", why is he not in the A side as well? If he is in contention, then he should tour with the A side to acclimatize to the English conditions

Posted by Broken_F-ing_Arm on (April 24, 2013, 11:05 GMT)

Good Squad. SOK and Smith should be in there but other than that it looks pretty good. You heard it first from me, he is the next Captain of Aus. Shame selectors dont have guts to axe Watto from squad for smith.

As much as i like the look of Faulkner, batting not good enough to be a #7 for AUS YET. Formula to win = 6 Bats, Haddin, 4 Bowlers.

My First XI - Rogers Cowan Warner Hughes Clarke Khawaja Haddin Siddle Pattinson Harris Lyon

Strong platform of English expierience at the top with Cowan, Rogers followed by the duo of potential matchwinners, and then Clarke, Khawaja the 2 with great techniques and the ability to torment the attack. Add good batting form from hadds and a strong wagging tail, a team who can consistently put up 350-400.

Add great pace stocks in Harris, bird, siddle, starc, patto + cummins, hilfy & sayers to come in if needed, WE COULD ACTULLY WIN THIS.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 11:02 GMT)

A tour to England, one spinner!!!!!

Posted by SamRoy on (April 24, 2013, 10:57 GMT)

Too many opening batsman. Advice to England, prepare turning tracks and play two spinners which will ensure at least a 3-1 series victory.

Posted by smudgeon on (April 24, 2013, 10:48 GMT)

I am most pleased to see James Faulkner being rewarded for being such a talented munchkin. Hope he gets a go in England, but he's going to have to wait for a few injuries (Starc, Harris, Patto - just give it a couple of tests!) to get his chance. He isn't quite a good enough batsman (yet?) to command a spot as a true allrounder, but I'm excited to see how he fares and whether he has enough talent and skill to make good on his promise. Do Tassie proud! As for the rest of the squad - eh, I haven't disliked a cricketer in recent memory as much as Haddin, for a number of reasons. But, I think the selector's logic in picking him is sound. As for Watson - surely this has to be his last chance. Steve Smith could rightly feel a little hard-done by. The rest of the squad is about as good as you can pick right now. Any quibbles about "why not XYZ?" are just quibbles. You could swap half of these players for other regular domestic players and they'd perform the same - just south of good.

Posted by PFEL on (April 24, 2013, 10:46 GMT)

@Vineet Kumar, Khawaja and Rogers are much better batsmen than Wade . . . why would he be selected as a batsman ahead of them?

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 10:44 GMT)

Moises Henriques was good in india Strange to have dropped him.

Posted by Mary_786 on (April 24, 2013, 10:39 GMT)

@Waliullah he will make the entire country proud, just needs an opportunity

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 10:39 GMT)

dis sqad is far better then indian tour... nyc decision to drop xd mh gm etc etc etc........... useless allrounders... phillip hughes is a good batsman..after ricky ponting....

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

@Meety, I hope the wise heads around OZ cricket can make something of the likes of Agar, Zampa etc. Clive Rose is another who impresses me. Heck I would almost bracket Lyon in with these guys, he has so little experience and so much cricket ahead of him, he can still develop into a very fine bowler, just needs a little more variation I feel. I think the difference between them and Fawad is a big gulf in age and experience, he most likely knows his game inside out and has the ability to think through a difficult situation that the younger guys don't yet possess. He also has the added attraction of being somewhat expendable, it's a horrible thing to say of someone who is probably busting his gut to play for Aus but its also true.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

I was afraid to see the squad at first,just because of khawaja that he wont be selected....but thank god he is in...i think he will make me proud this time ...just cant wait for the ashes to begin...

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

my first test XI.- ed cowan , david warner, phillip hughes, m clarke(c), s watson , m wade,b j haddin(wk) j falkuner, p siddle, j patto, n lyon.

u cant drop m wade the batsman.........

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (April 24, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

After hitting rock bottom in India, Australia can't even begin to pick themselves up, continue staring into the abyss. The Argus report looks like a giant waste of money, but when the cupboard is as bare as Australian newspapers make out, there really is no one else to pick. Having had to recently endure a painful head-to-head comparison with their Ashes rivals, even non-Australian fans are wondering when this tragically weak side will change. And they even included Lyon, Australia's dart bowler who is only useful when the opposition is 500-1. He'll certainly be needed in England..

Posted by danc1303 on (April 24, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

Am I the only England supporter who thinks that this Australian team isn't as bad as everyone says? Staying free from injuries (especially the bowlers) will be crucial, but a team of Warner, Cowan, Rogers, Watson, Clarke, Khawaja/Hughes?, Haddin, Pattinson, Harris, Siddle and Lyon looks alright. The batting might look a bit thin, but our bowlers weren't exactly special in New Zealand. This series will be a lot closer than everyone is predicting.

Posted by Sheikasif on (April 24, 2013, 10:04 GMT)

Why is moises henriques in squad. seems like bad boys during India tour has been rewarded with Ashes tests spot and Aussie face saviours like Henriques have been given a boot. The Ashes is Englands once again without a doubt.

Posted by bommber on (April 24, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

all ive git to say is it looks like something the poms would of done in the 90's looked where that got them.take thepain early and develop a team for a better future end of story

Posted by docbob on (April 24, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

Well, they say you can't please everyone, and the NSP is the perfect example of that.Haddin in as vc and probable first choice keeper is a good move. Rogers? Jury out.Hughes very lucky and Smith extremely unlucky. Great lesson in how to reward and encourage one of the few who could hold their heads high after India - NOT! Faulkner's selection will put pressure on Watson and could be a masterstroke, but one spinner? What does Steve O'Keefe have to do? Khawaja gets yet another guernsey,but will he get the opportunities he deserves, or come back from England with another stamp in his passport and still no more experience? The chosen quicks all deserve their spots. Would love to see the following eleven take the field in the first Test - Cowan, Warner, Khawaja, Clarke,Watson, Haddin, Faulkner, Siddle, Starc, Pattinson, Lyon. Hughes needs to prove himself in English conditions. Rogers shouldn't get a walk-up start. Bird and Harris will keep the pressure on the other quicks. Wade???

Posted by Thefakebook on (April 24, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

"While the India tourists Mitchell Johnson, Glenn Maxwell, Xavier Doherty and Moises Henriques were unsurprisingly left out, Steven Smith was the most unfortunate casualty, having made doughty runs in each of the final two Tests. However it was felt that Rogers and Usman Khawaja provided better batting options in England." Best paragraph I read in months.So,Fawad is not eligible huh,is S O'K still an OZ or is going back to Malaysia?????

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

This Aussie team is starting to look like an international invitational XI!! Khawaja, Henriques, Ahmed!! Desperate or what!

Posted by Munkeymomo on (April 24, 2013, 9:49 GMT)

Good for Rogers. Very experienced in the conditions, played with Middlesex for a fair while. That side looks very decent. I'm not a Warner fan, or Cowan really, and I don't think they'll form a formidable partnership uptop (I'd open with Rogers/Katich personally, but you have to blood new batsmen sometime I guess). Clarke at 3, Hughes/Uzi/Haddin then Watto or Faulkner, Siddle, Patto, Starc then Lyon.

That's not a bad side at all.

Glad the Aussies will be opening with Warner and Cowan.

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

@venkatesh018 on (April 24, 2013, 8:30 GMT) - no worries, you made me look a 2nd time, cos I assumed he would be an automatic choice to tour. @Jono Makim - without a doubt Fawad's off-field stuff makes him a champion already, & he should be given citizenship straight away. As far as I'm concern he is already an Ozzy, & I take your point about Warner (20/20 debut), Lyon & Cummins - but I think in the case of Lyon & Cummins they jumped the boat. With Lyon they were lucky, with Cummins it has been a disaster. @Si Baker - re: The Oval. Yes it was a monumental FUBAR! At that point in the series Hauritz was bowling better than Swann, (stat-wise). Why they did that I'll never know - maybe Hilditch will write about it in his memoirs!!!!!!!

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 9:35 GMT)

@Jono Makim - possibly didn't word myself properly, but I just don't think 3 Shield matches is what I call enuff! Whilst I did here it be said by some batsmen that he is easily the best spinner in the Shield, at the end of the day he is almost as old as his FC wicket tally! Not that age is an issue, just that IMO - he needs to have about 10 Shield games to prove himself. At the end of the Shield season, SO'K still has a 6 run better average (similar S/R Fawad ahead), but based on THREE games, I COULD say Zampa is better, (better ave & way better S/R). Zampa may be finished in 3 Shield games time, but so may be Fawad. I think he will be fast tracked, I believe Stuey MacGill has done a fair amount of work with him recently, & that would be for a reason.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

Pundits have already stated this is the worst Aussie side to ever tour England!! Where have I heard that before!! Oh, the Aussie pundits every time England travel to Australia!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

Why no Patrick Cumins, Smith, Henriques and Johnson ??

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

we have 3 batsman with Peter Siddle

Posted by VivGilchrist on (April 24, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

I have to say the selectors have done a good job with the main squad. Very happy to see Harris in, and just a little disappointed not to see Sayers in the main but glad he got a gig in the 'A' team. Good to see they stuck with Khawaja and not gone with Marsh who seems to gain selection because of his surname. I like the Idea of Rogers too, and hope either he or Watson take Cowans place. My only complaint....... no OKeefe, 2 squads and the best performed spinner in the country doesn't get selected. He needs to have a chat to Cowan on how to gain favour of the hierarchy, or steal the photos that Ed's got in his possession of Inverarity and co of that crazy Thailand trip.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Not sure I agree with the picking of Chris Rogers. What do Adam Voges or David Hussey have to do to get a look in? Pretty decent looking pace attack mind. I am still also not convinced by Phil Hughes - but then given my choices you'd have two fewer opening batsmen for two more middle order.

Posted by TeamRocker on (April 24, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

Finally, good selection. Happy to see Roger, Silk, Faulkner and Haddin in the squad. I think Rogers should be given a go as an opener, which will probably teach Warner a sound lesson. Haddin provides experience- enough said. Faulkner was expected, I suppose. My starter team:

1) Rogers 2) Cowan 3) Hughes 4) Watson 5)Clarke 6) Khawaja 7) Haddin 8) Pattinson 9) Starc 10)Harris 11)Lyon

Now, I know that Khawaja isn't a number 6 batsmen. It's just that he plays spin well, and you need someone to outdo Swann in that position. I would replace Lyon with Faulkner on pitches that don't offer much for spin.

Posted by Edwards_Anderson on (April 24, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

@Sunil the 2013 side will win, not only do we have Clarke leading us, we now have Watson back as an allrounder, couple of very good young batsman in Khawaja and Warner and some experience heads to guide them. This squad is going to make us proud.

Posted by dalboy12 on (April 24, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

IF this team can score runs ---- then this is a great bowling attack. I often think Aussie sometimes too often selects the aggressive but inconsistent pace bowlers instead of the consistent bowlers. In Bird and Harris they have two good quick consistent bowlers that i think will be dangerous in English conditions. In terms of Aussie scoring runs, I'm a kiwi and watched a lot of England's tour out here. I was not very impressed at all by there much famed bowling attack. Sure they were tired after a long summer and they missed Swarn, but really they didn't look anywhere near as dangerous as I thought they would be, if they bowl like that in the Ashes, then Aussie could well take an overall victory.

Posted by camcove on (April 24, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

There have been a lot of strange comments from at home and abroad about the squad. Inverarity made it clear that they can add to it, and one of Agar and Ahmed would be a likely addition. For the life of me, I can't see what the surprise is in the selection of Haddin as VC and Rogers in the squad, given the obvious hole left by the retirements of Punter and Huss.(For those plugging for Paine, I would say that Hartley is a better keeper and batsman, and Paine's season before the Shield final wasn't a great one. In any event, "horses for courses", and plugging those experience holes had to be a priority). Some have expressed surprise at the inclusion of Harris. There is likely to be rotation in the quicks, and any Test he plays will be a plus for Australia. I was glad they omitted Smith, as I think he would have been exposed. I was delighted they picked Faulkner. If Watson is picked in Tests and continues to fail, batting Haddin at 6 and Faulkner at 7 could be something they may consider.

Posted by ConfusedOne on (April 24, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

It will be interesting to srr if a side can win the Ashes with 2 batsmen - Rogers and Clarke

Posted by Shuraim on (April 24, 2013, 8:54 GMT)

Why in the world bailey cutting and coulter-nile are not selected even in the A team

Posted by Tigg on (April 24, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

What happened to Hilfenhaus? He was great for the Aussies last time over and has a CA contract. A swing bowler who can bowl long spells is worth a lot in England.

Posted by Ramsespd on (April 24, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

Gotta say this squad raises more questions than it answers. I'm seeing a lot of support for Brad Haddin. Seems everyone forgot his dismissal in SA a few seasons back. In case you missed it, look up 'Worst dismissal in Test Cricket History' in the dictionary. The selectors have botched this. Cowan should have been made VC. He is highly intelligent and thinks deeply about the game. I believe, had he been given the VC he would have blossomed. The only question is his consistency but as his is the first name thrown up when talking about dropping players it must be hard to perform under that pressure every innings. Back him in, let him feel comfortable and consistency will come. Johnson failed in England once before. He shows no signs of shaking that anytime soon. Faulkner is a brilliant choice, should have been chosen for India. Can't figure out why Doolan wasn't included. My team for the fist test: Cowan, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Warner, Wade, Faulkner, Pattinson, Siddle, Lyon, Bird

Posted by Mani_Majra on (April 24, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

D Warner Ed Cowan C Roger M Clarke U Khwaja S Watson B Haddin P Siddle M Starc J Pattinson N Lyon

Posted by ooper_cut on (April 24, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Terrific to see Haddin as the first choice WK as well as the VC. Finally, CA has started doing somethings right, although I doubt Faulkner is Test Match material, just like Steve Smith. Where is Cummins ? Is he still injured and for how long ? He is not over 30, why is he still recuperating ? AFAIK, he is OZs No.1 fast bowler, Siddle is a fighter but he will need more than that to counter the English weather. As a die hard Oz fan, I will pray for them to do well in old blighty.

Posted by Bigskyrocket on (April 24, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

Comparisons? Pattinson = McDermott, Harris = Hogg, Siddle = Merv Hughes, Bird = Lawson/Alderman, Starc = Reid/Davidson. if they match anything like their comparables that is a pretty handy Ashes attack. I'm glad that they went with one spinner, I can't see any other spinner worthy of selection. The batting order worries me, if you stick with Warner and Cowan opening, then Hughes??, Clarke, Khawaja, Watson, Haddin, Pattinson, Starc, Siddle, Lyon. How many games are they going to have before they pick the first test and to give the likes of Harris, Rogers, Faulkner and Bird a chance to prove form and fitness? I would make only one change to this squad, bring Paine in for Wade. Otherwise, as with the consensus, pretty reasonable.

Posted by venkatesh018 on (April 24, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

@ meety, my mistake-Starc is in the squad and rightly so.

Posted by BDibbs on (April 24, 2013, 8:28 GMT)

Wow, I think the kiwi's will probably put up a better fight than that lot this summer.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 8:28 GMT)

Australia is lacking in classy spinners altough England does not have spin pitches but English Cricketer are troubled facing spin as well as Australian's.

Posted by TestsareBest on (April 24, 2013, 8:26 GMT)

Clarkemen. Glenn McGrath used to predict 5-0 for Aus before every Test series against England. As did many of the fans. It was annoying but now the boot's on the other foot so get used it for 20 years or so, like we had to.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

Can someone please explain what the Aussie selectors have against David Hussey? With Rogers in the side it can't be age, as they're both thirty five. Hus has just asmuch county experience as Rogers, but he's done it in division one and playing at Trent Bridge, which is hardly a batsman's paradise. He's also got plenty of international experience in ODIs. Nothing against Rogers but Hussey is a higher class of player.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (April 24, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

Good, maybe now Oz can get rid of their T20 players in the Test squad too. Haddin is hands down a better player in all aspects than Wade. Firstly Haddin is actually a wicket keeper, which means he can keep wicket. This includes catching edges from batsmen, which Wade failed to do on several occasions (dropping Faff in Adelaide - how can we forget). Also Haddin is an experienced batsmen and a tough customer.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 8:14 GMT)

@Meety, I think Fawad probably has paid his on-field duties. I believe he has been playing club cricket in Melbourne for the last few seasons. With a half summer at state level behind him I think thats enough. Guys like Lyon, Warner and Cummins have all found their way into green and gold lately with less. In any case I think that all fades into insignificance with the amount of work he'd be putting in off the field just to make a life for himself in Australia. Late August, The Oval, it is on!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

Only one spinner and not a very good one at that. He'll be busy if nothing else but I suspect another will be 'called up' at some stage.

Posted by Clarkemen on (April 24, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

I m sick of seeing english fan predicting that they gonna win 3-0,4-0 or 5-0! Oh wait we are not that weak looking this squad.Despite that Indian series,we dominate best team in the world which you lost 2-0 in your home ground!So wait and see fellas coz its not India now!And I m sure the condition suits us too.Looking your team struggle against kiwis,I really feel that we have a good chance to win it!

Posted by gemmy123 on (April 24, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

Good solid squad, with what looks to be a bit of mental toughness is some areas (Cowan, Rogers and Haddin). It'll be needed I think. England aren't in great form but if Anderson can fire consistently and the remaining seamers contribute around him, it will be a tough summer for the tourists. Sorry but I don't see that Aussie bowling line up running through England repeatedly. At best they can hope to keep the series tight and apply pressure in the absence of genius.

Thats a lot of left handers though if Swann's elbow recovers. His average against then is nearly 10 less than vs right hand batsmen. Personally I rate Haddin but his selection smacks of a fear for Clarke's back. I suspect England will use the likes of Finn, Broad and Tremlett (hopefully) around the wicket to Aus' skipper and bomb him. If he conks out, it might be a rout.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (April 24, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

Rogers should bat at 5 or 6. He is experienced enough to slot into Hussey's vacant role, Hussey used to be an opener also. Phil Hughes should ideally open but can't bat any lower than 3. He is a new ball batsman and once he gets going he usually scores big unlike some other batsman who claim to be openers. 6 specialist batsmen, Haddin at 7 and 4 bowlers.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 7:47 GMT)

Well the selectors will no doubt be thanking Dan Brettig for his journalistic smoke screen yesterday, after that any squad looks fantastic!

For mine this squad is 95% spot on. Something tells me i'd have preffered Smith to Khawaja, as I think a middle order combo of Clarke-Smith-Haddin would handle Swann with relative ease, but anyway I think Smithy can still break into the squad via the A tour.

Other than that they have brought in Rogers who had to tour on shield performances and its great to see Invers and co. rewarding that, Rogers aside no-one else did enough to force their hand and I feel its right that they stick with the incumbents in such a case.

The bowling attack is WOW, spot on!! I can hardly believe it! No perennial underachieving run-leakers! Perhaps O'Keefe may have been preferred, particularly coming up against so many right handers, but it doesn't look like it will ever happen.

Great squad!!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 7:45 GMT)

@Meety: point taken re Lee & Clark in 09, but *Marcus North* as Australia's front-line spinner on that Bunsen at The Oval? Simply mind-boggling. Arguably, it cost them The Ashes.

Right now, the NSP are performing a passable imitation of England's selectors during the calamitous 80s & 90s: shuffling the pack without apparent rhyme or reason not just from series to series but from Test to Test. Worst of all, having jettisoned Katich - after a two/three-year period during which he was Australia's most prolific scorer - & not been over-enthusiastic about dissuading Ponting from walking the plank (which, in turn, may well have prompted Hussey to call time on *his* Test career before the same treatment was meted out to him as well), they've now done a 180-degree volte-face re the virtues of age & experience by recalling Haddin, Rogers & Harris. No problem with that, *if* they hadn't lost Katich, Ponting & Hussey in the process.

But they have, & it's about to cost them bigtime.

Posted by Sunil_Batra on (April 24, 2013, 7:40 GMT)

Not trying to ruffle any feathers here but for the interstate conspracy theorists I note both Harris and Rogers were born in Sydney.However with Harris, Bird and Pattinson also being in the A team, what's the bet we have at least one injury replacement before the tour starts, any takers. @mary also glad to see Khawaja there, he deserves his shot and pressure is on the likes of Hughes and Watson to get some runs as they won't be able to get away with 2 dissapointing series. Also Mary i don' think Haurtiz's career is over, if Rogers can make a comeback then anyone can regardless of age.

Posted by Rowayton on (April 24, 2013, 7:35 GMT)

SiBaker, I've said it before but... Why do people compare Jackson Bird to McGrath? It's nonsense so far as I'm concerned - the 'looking for the new Bradman' syndrome. If you want to compare Bird to anyone I'd pick Terry Alderman, and how did he do in England? And if you wanted to compare Harris to someone, I'd suggest Darren Gough rather than McGrath. The only bowler I've seen in my lifetime who was really similar to McGrath, I reckon, was Brian Statham, but that just shows how old I am.

Posted by Mary_786 on (April 24, 2013, 7:34 GMT)

I got on featured comments twice, first for me

Posted by suzyparker on (April 24, 2013, 7:25 GMT)

This is the best team the Aussies could pick. Haddin and Hussey were the only players in the last series who could've made the England team, so it's good to see him back. Rogers is a class player and the Aussies selectors have at least taken a gulp of humble pie with good grace over his selection. However Hughes and Khawaja are not test players, Cowan is able but ordinary and Clarke and Watson liable to break down. The bowling looks OK if they stay fit, which given recent history is unlikely. All in all though England to win 3-0.

Posted by I-Like-Cricket on (April 24, 2013, 7:24 GMT)

My XI (which I assume most would disagree) - Warner, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Cowan, Watson, Haddin, Harris, Pattinson, Bird, Lyon

I'd give Watto 2 chances to prove himself and if by the third test he hasn't made any impact I'd drop him for Faulkner.

I'm aware Hughes had a poor run in India but you only have to look at his record in Enlgish domestic cricket last year to see why he deserves his shot.

Hopefully by the time the Ashes roll around Cowan will have scored at least one century in County cricket and faced as many balls as possible. Batting so low I feel would provide a little more security for him (safer fields hopefully and older balls) to unleash his semi-attacking game that we saw against the South Africans.

The bowlers were obviously a pain (because they're all just so good) but Harris is the man with the swinging ball, Pattinson is the workhorse to replace Sidds and Bird because of his amazingness in his Shield games and stump to stump bowling.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 7:15 GMT)

OMG!! What are they thinking ??? No Mithel Johnson in the side... Unbelievable!!!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 7:13 GMT)

With the appalling lack of depth in Australian Cricket at present in particularly with the bat it is quite a good Squad. My main criticism is that their has been a focus on inserting experience by choosing Rogers, but what use is experience if he is not a proven commodity in Test Cricket? Greater sense would have been seen in the swallowing of Pride and giving Simon Katich a call, a player who not only has experience, but also is a proven Test commodity.

Plus to be frank, still arguably Australia's best spinner.........

Haddin was not only a safe choice as VC with no other leadership options available, but also a better option as the Keeper. With Australia's best chance in this series being their diabolically bad batting being carried by their potentially excellent pacemen the team could not risk Matthew Wade's butter gloves behind the Stumps

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 7:09 GMT)

@jmcilhinney: three points to consider re Harris: 1. He's pretty much a carbon copy of Jackson Bird (naggingly accurate McGrathesque RMF; impressive outswing if conditions are in his favour). Why take both (unless Bird is regarded as Harris's understudy)? 2. While I accept your point re Cummins's fragility, he's still young & his fitness record can only improve as his body grows stronger. Harris, on the other hand, is pushing 34 &, in a FC career spanning 12 seasons, has played a total of 60 games. Whichever way you spin it, that's pretty shocking from a fitness perspective. 3. His FC experience in England is, on closer investigation, nugatory: a single game in 2008 for Sussex vs MCC plus two Div Two matches for Surrey in 2009.

Given that fitness is an ongoing issue for both players & that neither would be likely to play more than two - three, at most - consecutive Tests, far better to unleash the shocktroop value that Cummins's raw pace & unpredictable extra bounce provides.

Posted by hycIass on (April 24, 2013, 6:56 GMT)

Yesterday i accused the selectors of not being fair to Khawaja on the premise they were going for Marsh, well done to them for rewarding shield form as Marsh didn't have shield form to back his case. Well done to them for getting a good mix in the squad of youth and experience, we now have a chance to win the ashes, just need Clarke to be fit and ready to lead.

Posted by Ducky610 on (April 24, 2013, 6:50 GMT)

@RicsRubbish So a better option for australia is to pick young players who arrn't up to it so they get destroyed, because that worked so well in India, Rogers and Haddin give us a shot and allow young players to build there careers at FC and Aus A level for a year or two so they can get selected on merit rather than 'potential'... The Australia A squad they picked is perfect for development (Smith, Maddinson, Silk, Doolan, love it) with Burns already training with county teams...

Posted by GeoffreysMother on (April 24, 2013, 6:48 GMT)

So at last we know which faces are going to projected onto Big Ben this year - but with Inverarity's caption ' This is the best we've got' rather than 'We have come to to take our Ashes back'! Actually I think it is the best team Australia could pick - and I think they will be very competitive. Rogers knowledge of English wickets will be invaluable as will his last chance mentality. He isn't Micheal Hussey though - and he shouldn't be expected to be.

Posted by ygkd on (April 24, 2013, 6:31 GMT)

A very important step in the right direction. David Hussey and Brad Hodge would have been useful inclusions (yes, yes Hodge retired but he wouldn't have if things had been handled differently) and Paine and Hartley are unlucky, however it's not a bad squad given what we've seen recently. Haddin, too, is not a bad choice for VC. Now it's just a matter of getting the starting XI right (surely Rogers, Harris and Khawaja must not be left warming the bench) and the Ashes may yet be a contest rather than the walk-over that has been looming ever since the last series.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 6:28 GMT)

0-5 for Aussies is on card with such a pathetic team selection.

Posted by sichu_emerald on (April 24, 2013, 6:26 GMT)

Alas a sensible team selection from CA!!!, hope this should do a stop-loss though!

Posted by heathrf1974 on (April 24, 2013, 6:25 GMT)

Sorry, Pattinson for Siddle.

Posted by RicsRubish on (April 24, 2013, 6:24 GMT)

I would much prefer losing the ashes but building for the future rather than what is going to happen and that is lose the ashes and have no building blocks for the future. Rodgers might have a great record in England, and I don't care if he tops the averages there is no future in his selection, same with Haddin. How much longer can these blokes go for? The failure of selectors to make tough decisions by getting rid of players before their use by date continues. What successful side has 5 openers in the top 6? Its going to be a long long 12 months.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (April 24, 2013, 6:23 GMT)

This is a much better squad. Smith may be a bit disappointed, however, he seems to be a specialist spin playing batsman. I would like to see Siddle, Bird, Harris and Lyon for the first test. I'm glad they picked Rogers as well. The English are obvious favourites bit with this squad we can be competitive.

Posted by vj_gooner on (April 24, 2013, 6:23 GMT)

Bradley Haddin!!! We need you!

Posted by skilebow on (April 24, 2013, 6:22 GMT)

@Heremia Tupaea - Jacques has a British passport and retired from international cricket to play for yorkshire as a local player

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 6:21 GMT)

Decent, bog average touring squad.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 6:14 GMT)

good squad, disappointed ryan harris ahead of luke butterworth, the guy has shown his class with the ball for awhile and england conditions perfect, 1st test: Watson, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Rodgers, Haddin, Faulkner, Starc, Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon no warner coz i just dont rate him as a test batsman, faulkner will average mid 30's with the bat and mid 20's with the ball, good balance between righ and left handed bowlers, starc swinging it in, faulkner nibble it off the seem, pattinson swinging away, siddle nibbling it off the seem, watson, starc reverse swing specialists. Can afford 1 less batsman with faulkner, starc, siddle, pattinson all able to bat fairly well, they can add 100 between them.

Posted by Amith_S on (April 24, 2013, 6:13 GMT)

In relation to the comment about openers - Watson and Warner are our best openers, Hughes is basically the reserve batsman in my view and khawaja our best number 3 If Watson is the all-rounder and should be replaced by Faulkner if he fails in the first 2 tests. We need to get Cowan down the order if they persist with him, especially in England. If Hughes can be consistent, he could come back in, but I can't see it in England.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 6:04 GMT)

Okay, calmed down from yesterday. Glad that 'probable' squad was right off. Haddin is still utterly superfluous and nowhere near the lofty reputation set by his publicist, but the rest is sanity. Keep it up NSP. Dear god, keep it up.

Posted by nthuq on (April 24, 2013, 6:02 GMT)

A quick reminder to those who are saying that Haddin has been picked on leadership merit alone: Haddin was the 5th highest run scorer in the recently concluded Sheffield Shield, with 468 runs from 7 matches at an average of 52. Seems like a pretty good selection to me.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 5:59 GMT)

Actually given the choice available to Australia , it is a decent squad. I wish Australia had shown the same good sense in choosing the team for India, they could have chosen some of the oldies like Hodge and the scoreline might have been different. Australia has been playing hot and cold with senior professionals . I like the look of the bowling . If Australia makes runs England will suddenly find this team a lot more difficult to handle than the teams they trounced earlier. With Pattinson, Staarc and a resilient Siddle England might not find it so easy to get three innings victories. Most significantly Watson has started bowling in the IPL, however people may scoff at it. People are still training and playing cricket and facing the likes of Steyn here, albeit on slower wickets. Well done australia and I hope Haddin comes good for his own sake and Australia"s. Just get rid of Cook and Trott and watch the fun guys ! Ramanujam sridhar

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 5:57 GMT)

What about Phil Jacques and David Hussey? Aussies need batsmen who can hang around at the crease and im sorry but I can see the English winning the series 3-1 with one drawn test

Posted by jmcilhinney on (April 24, 2013, 5:56 GMT)

@Si Baker on (April 24, 2013, 4:43 GMT), and how many games can Cummins manage between injuries? I reckon that the selectors have just decided to remove Cummins from consideration for a while until he has proven that his body can at least handle the rigours of FC cricket. Harris is injury-prone, no doubt, but I think that it's unfair to call him a "lumbering medium pacer". The selectors were obviously trying to shift the balance back towards the experienced end of the spectrum and, while Harris hasn't played too many Tests, he has plenty of FC experience and he's played for several counties in England, so has experience in those conditions.

Posted by Refractor on (April 24, 2013, 5:53 GMT)

Huzzah for including Bird, double huzzah for leaving Johnson out. Let's never go there again.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (April 24, 2013, 5:49 GMT)

@TheCrafter on (April 24, 2013, 3:02 GMT), with regards to Khawaja not getting a chance in India, it was probably his own fault for being involved in homework-gate. If he hadn't been suspended for the third Test then I'm certain that he would have played in place of Hughes. As it was, he was left out and Hughes played and hit a 50 in the second innings. With Hughes obviously being the selectors first choice and looking like possibly turning a corner, Khawaja missed his window. With Watson also returning for game 4, the only other option would have been to drop one of the openers and selectors are always going to be less likely to toy with the opening partnership than the rest of the order.

Posted by zenboomerang on (April 24, 2013, 5:41 GMT)

Some odd comms: Watson can't play Aust A games at the same time as play in the Champions Trophy - same goes for Starc, Wade, Faulkner, Bailey, Clarke, etc... Glad the NSP have got Test & ODI preparations separated for the bowlers... Wonder in Marsh is in the CT squad?...

Hilfenhaus is home from the IPL having knee tendonitis again so the NSP would be risking too much in selecting him with little over a month to go... A pity though as the conditions would have suited him...

Posted by Chrisabbey on (April 24, 2013, 5:36 GMT)

Mitchell Johnson should have defiantly been picked in this squad, good to see that Maxwell was left out but that squad still needs thought.

Posted by 158notout on (April 24, 2013, 5:29 GMT)

Hmm, as an England fan I much preferred the look of the possible squad being bandied about on cricinfo yesterday. Rogers definitely gives a bit more spine to the batting although he does bring the number of "opening" batsmen in the squad to 5. Still a great pick though. Imagine if Phil Jacques had never retired from International cricket, he would have been a good choice as well. As a cricket fan in general it is great to see Khawaja in there in front of Smith, maxwell, henriques and Marsh.

If I were an Aussie fan the main thing I would be concerned about is having Ryan Harris on the A tour as well, surely you need to wrap him up as much as possible before the first Test, stop him from breaking himself.

Posted by Venkiviru on (April 24, 2013, 5:17 GMT)

why in d world would anyone leave steve smith...............omg....he is a very gud player...performed well in d limited options he got in d india tour.........n where is johnson???????????

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 5:16 GMT)

@ venkatesh018 on (April 24, 2013, 4:43 GMT) - I think you were looking at the wrong squad - LOL! Starc is on the Ashes tour! @Si Baker - I agree about Archilies Heel, but Stuey Clark was injured in the Saffa tour in 09 (along with Lee). So Oz's first choice pacers were not available until late in that tour. It wasn't all easy for the selectors back then - if it weren't for untimely injuries, the Oz side COULD of been (in 2009) 1. Jacques, 2. Katich, 3. Ponting, 4. Hussey, 5. Clarke, 6. Symonds, Haddin, 8. Lee, 9. MJ, 10. Clark, 11. MacGill, with Hughes & Watto touring with Siddle & Hilfy & Hauritz would of been MacGilla's understudy. No room for North. MJ's career (IMO) would of gone on a different course, playing under study to Lee & Clark. (BTW - I define Symonds discipline as an injury). Alas no cigar!

Posted by simonsays on (April 24, 2013, 5:15 GMT)

I must say, I am very happy with this squad (for a change). Everyone keeps talking about openers like its a problem having them. They are (supposed-to-be) great against a swinging ball, and I doubt it would be difficult to convert one of them to a number 3 or number 5/6. Hussey was a great opener (ODI's) and a great number 5/6.

1. Cowan 2. Warner 3. Hughes/Khawaja (I'd probably opt for Khawaja, but if we're being realistic...) 4. Clarke (c) 5. Rogers 6. Watson 7. Haddin (vc) 8. Pattinson 9. Siddle 10.Harris/Starc (when Harris isn't playing) 11.Lyon

12.Faulkner (who can come in for Lyon and shift up to 8 if its a terrible track for spin)

Can't argue that isnt a team of balance. I'd like to see how that goes.

Posted by Stereo11 on (April 24, 2013, 5:08 GMT)

Chris Rogers??. Oh goody another left hander thats all we need. Too many left handers people!!! Are we forgetting a Duke balll will be thrown to us in England and those leftys just cant help having a poke at the away swinger. Anderson must be drowning in drool. Anderson to take a bagfull and rip thru the leftys. :-( I see some good Shield batsmen there, sadly no Test batsmen. Prove me wrong please.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 5:04 GMT)

God...bring back the golden years.

Posted by siddhartha87 on (April 24, 2013, 5:03 GMT)

awesome selection.Good to see Aussies sticking with specialist batsmen instead of part time batsmen.It will be interesting to see the final XI.Watson should open or bat at no 6.

My XI- Warner,Watson,Cowan,Hughes,Clarke,Rogers,Haddin,Siddle,Pattinson,Harris,Lyon

Alternative XI: Warner,Cowan,Rogers,Hughes,Clarke,Watson,Haddin,Siddle,Pattinson,Harris,Lyon

Posted by BurmaStu on (April 24, 2013, 4:56 GMT)

Very pleased to see Hadds back in the side. Our side needs some grit, some experience and some skill against spin - Haddin has all that. We're still going to get flogged but at least there will be some fight now.

Posted by BrianCharlesVivek on (April 24, 2013, 4:55 GMT)

Is this an Australis PM's XI touring England??

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 4:54 GMT)

Finally they given chance to Chris Rogers. thumbs up for selectors from India through me.

Posted by PrasPunter on (April 24, 2013, 4:48 GMT)

Smily - for all the speculation doing rounds about the possible exclusion of Ussie, it comes as a great relief. Relieved to see the squad composition. Go Aus !! Lets give our best shot as if everything depends on the outcome !! God bless !!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

Since the 2009 Ashes tour - during which a recently-rampant Stuart Clark was jettisoned for most of the summer & they decided not to play a specialist spinner on a near-dustbowl in the series decider at The Oval - Australia's Achilles Heel has remained their selection process.

And so it continues. Haddin & Wade, both vastly inferior keepers & only marginally better batsmen than Tim Paine, mystifyingly keep him out yet again; Smith, despite his heroics in India, is dropped in favour of a *fifth* opener - Rogers - in the twilight of an admittedly excellent career; the lumbering medium-pacer, Harris, who can barely manage two injury-free games on the trot, is preferred to the electric Pat Cummins; & to cap it all, there are seven seamers (if we include Watson, who's already stated he'll be bowling in The Ashes) but no back-up spinner.

Fortunately, all is not lost. I hear it on good authority that Matt Wade regularly hands in his daily Wellness Feedback forms ten minutes early.

Posted by venkatesh018 on (April 24, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

Mitchell Starc is a surprise omission. Dropping Steve Smith and picking Chris Rogers is a correct "horses for courses" decision. Making Haddin a certainty in the playing XI by making him vice captain could cost Australia dear. Haddin is a good player of spin but struggles against quality swing bowling. My Aussie eleven for first Test: Warner, Cowan (or) Rogers, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Khwaja, Haddin, Pattinson, Bird (or) Harris, Siddle, Lyon.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 4:34 GMT)

If Australia can drop young batters so they hone their skills then there is no reason they can't do the same with keepers. Wade will be back and hopefully better for it. Very very pleased to see Bird in the squad, English conditions should suit him.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (April 24, 2013, 4:33 GMT)

Gosh, look at all those non-test-standard players still there! Oh well, big improvement from yesterday's joke squad posted at least. Thankfully there's a good handful of decent players there that I look forward to watching. O'Keefe misses out, but someone had to...

Posted by Ms.Cricket on (April 24, 2013, 4:33 GMT)

The squad is reasonable with the exception that the wicketkeepers Haddin and Wade are not the best in Australia at the moment and Paine and Hartley would have been better choices. Haddin is in because the team did not have an obvious choice of vice-captain and Wade is probably the vice-captain if Haddin cannot play, they have made the team not on wicket-keeping merit but vice-captaincy merit. Either Bird or Faulkner should have been left out for another spinner - O'Keefe or Agar.

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 4:31 GMT)

@Batmanian on (April 24, 2013, 3:42 GMT) - #3 is tough position & IF you have good openers & a good middle order, your best batsmen should be in that position (traditional Ozzy practise). I think Oz have evolved to the 4 openers policy because we had Punter @ #4, Pup # 5, & Hussey @ #6 & shielding them a bit (i.e 3/30) was a good theory. Now we only have ONE of that middle order, I think there is SOME logic in what Anand has said, although IMO it should be 1. Warner, 2. Watson, 3. Rogers, 4. Hughes, 5. Clarke. With any two of Wade/Haddin & Khawaja @ # 6 & 7. Without actually telling him so - Watto would be on a Final Notice, with Cowan slotting in to his position IF he fails. Occupying the crease can be essential in England, as England's seamers seem to lose potancy the older the ball becomes, then it is really over to Swann & any one of a number of trundlers like Trott, KP or Root! Big opportunity IF we can see off the new ball. I think Eng attack is weak after 30 overs.

Posted by Rowayton on (April 24, 2013, 4:23 GMT)

Lots of people are going on about the number of opening batsmen. Get used to it, this is the modern way. With so much limited overs cricket being played in the juniors it is becoming normal at that level to have your best batsmen opening, simply because that guarantees them the chance to play a decent innings with proper technique rather than just slogging, particularly in t20. I think it's as good a side as they could pick. Like Meety I'm a bit mystified by people who want to fast track Fawad into the team. He hasn't done that much. People seem to think he's Shane Warne, whereas I suspect he's a bit more like Imran Tahir.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 4:22 GMT)

Hey! no fair for moises henriques and steve smith after the fantastic debut of henriques and great comeback of steven smith. and the selectors are doing a great mistake for having only one spinner in the squad!

Posted by jmcilhinney on (April 24, 2013, 4:18 GMT)

@Big_Maxy_Walker on (April 24, 2013, 3:24 GMT), apparently you didn't read the part of the story that said that Ahmed is not likely to be eligible to play for Australia until near the end of the Ashes series. There's no need for two spinners anyway, unless an injury befalls the first choice. Only teams for whom spin is their strength should even consider playing two spinners in England and Australia's bowling strength is clearly pace.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 4:16 GMT)

Good to see Rogers and Faulkner in the squad but still fail to see why SOK wasn't even added to the Aus A side. He brings both proven spin results and leadership experience, something which the raw Agar has yet to accomplish. Are the selectors looking for a prodigy all the time? Hopefully he'll be considered in the SA A tour squad but seeing as they've pretty much locked that in already I'm not holding my breath.

Can't wait to see Jackson Bird in England, looks very suited to their conditions and one of those bowlers that can just bowl for long periods (well hopefully without injury). As for the batsmen it really could be the last chance many of them get to prove they can cut it. Watson and Hughes in particular need to make a century or two.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (April 24, 2013, 4:15 GMT)

I can certainly see the case for including Haddin. He deserved to be dropped when he was and, while he hasn't set the world alight, especially in India, Wade hasn't done a bad job. There was definitely a lack of experience and leadership in the Australia squad though, so bringing Haddin in to address that makes sense. His current form suggests that he's not likely to perform significantly worse than Wade on the field either. I'm sure that Tim Paine won't mind either. Even though Wade is still in the squad, you'd think that Paine's chance of getting the nod when Haddin goes for the last time would be greater than if Wade remained the incumbent.

Posted by Moppa on (April 24, 2013, 4:15 GMT)

PS: my XI from this squad: Warner, Cowan, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja/Watson, Haddin, Pattinson, Siddle, Harris/Bird, Lyon. If Warner fails, Rogers can move up to open and Usman to 4, with Watto and Warner duelling for 6. Bird and Harris can rotate to protect the Rhino, with Starc coming in to provide some variety if needed.

PPS: an excellent A-squad as many have observed - again, well done to the selectors. I'd have taken Butterworth and O'Keefe, but generally good.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 4:10 GMT)

Wellrounded87, I disagree on Smith. He played two good innings in the first innings of the two tests he played and has improved his technique considerably, much more than Phil Hughes. You need to have seen him play Shield cricket this year.....

Posted by Ducky610 on (April 24, 2013, 4:10 GMT)

Excellent squad!! Such a reief after that india monstrosity... Only still no O'Keefe and Cosgrove really deserves a slot

Posted by Wefinishthis on (April 24, 2013, 3:57 GMT)

As the biggest NSP critic, I thought I had misread the squad here. I just cannot believe that the NSP actually got something right by managing to select our best 4 fast-bowlers on tour, but I'm in even more disbelief that Rogers is included as well! They actually picked all four of our most deserving fast bowlers in Bird, Faulkner, Harris and Pattinson! I just cannot believe it. I won't get too excited though because I'd expect only one of those to play with Siddle, Starc and Lyon at any one time, but just the fact that our four best bowlers are in the squad is enough for me to be optimistic and hesitate to put my money on England. All we'd need to change in this squad is to drop Cowan for D.Hussey/Silk, Watson for Cosgrove, Haddin for Nevill and Starc for O'Keefe, but I'm suprised our best bowler in India (Maxwell) was dropped. Still, it's encouraging to see Silk, Sayers and Doolan in the Aus A squad. So apart from picking Starc/Lyon over O'Keefe, great job selectors!

Posted by CricFan78 on (April 24, 2013, 3:54 GMT)

3-0 to England .... Aussie batting (barring Clarke) is rubbish no matter how you look at it

Posted by Chris_P on (April 24, 2013, 3:52 GMT)

@Rhonda Shorrock . You don't understand? Try re -reading our efforts in India for a brutal reason. This has been called for by an overwhelming majority of cricket fans in Australia, besides which Rogers has been the standout batsman in domestic cricket & the Argus report did suggest form being the main criteria (which begs the question on why Watson was selected & SOK not, but that is another story).

Posted by timmyw on (April 24, 2013, 3:49 GMT)

The only thing I am a little annoyed at with this is I thought Rogers should have been selected 3 years ago. Longer even. Better late than never I guess. I hope they leave out Hughes altogether and go for a more stable batting line up. I reckon bat Watson down the order and get him away from the new ball if he's going to play. If not drop Warner down the order and have Cowan and Rogers open. I'd also like to see Khawaja play for an extended time. The bowling line up looks like dynamite if they can stay fit. My money is still on England to romp home but stranger things have happened and I like the look of this side a lot more with Rogers there. If only Katich was still playing :*(

Posted by farkin on (April 24, 2013, 3:46 GMT)

England 4 Australia 0 with this squad

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 3:45 GMT)

This a very good, very balanced squad. Good mix of older heads and experience and younger players. With Australia A playing around the same time and the Aussies playing in County cricket, players can be called up if need be. Young Agar will be a chance if Lyon doesn't penetrate. Don't underestimate the Aussie batting in these conditions and the bowling looks very strong. They just need to stay healthy. The Ashes will be closer than many pundits think.

Posted by Batmanian on (April 24, 2013, 3:42 GMT)

Anand Kannand, first drop should be close enought to your best batsman, or at least your best batsman under thirty. It is not for 'someone who knows how to survive for long periods'! Boon became useful there, despite being a bit of a scrapper, because there was a lot of solidity above (Taylor and Marsh) and below (Jones, Border, S. [and later M.] Waugh).

It's the not the role Clarke evolved into, and it's been unfortunate he's not really been a suitable slot-in there lately, but it sure is not the gig for Cowan.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 3:42 GMT)

@Nihal, Paine has been playing for a while now.. including an 87 in the Shield Final..

Posted by Chris_P on (April 24, 2013, 3:40 GMT)

@ Nihal Bhat FYI, Tim Paine scored 87 in the Shield Final as well as playing 10 matches for Tasmania this season. I think 10 matches is just a little bit more than having not played " any competitive cricket". He scored 359 @35.9 as well as taking 25 catches. he was available alright.

Posted by wellrounded87 on (April 24, 2013, 3:35 GMT)

@Rhonda, We've gone with Rogers because the team needs some experienced batsmen. Look at the India tour we went pretty much all youth and they all failed. Clarke our only batsmen to score a century in 8 innings of cricket. Furthermore Rogers has a stellar record in English county cricket.

Playing spin isn't really relevant. English and Australian conditions are suited to fast bowlers so a batsmen who can play spin well is about as useful as having a good player of pace in India. Smith is all round pretty useless and just because he had on decent innings in India hardly warrants keeping him in the side when his selection in the first place was unwarranted.

@Saravanan, Cummins is injured... again... not sure when he's back (probably soon) but he's not played four day or test cricket in almost 2 years, he will need to prove his fitness before he is considered for selection unfortunately. You are 100% right though he is a very promising player.

Posted by Big_Maxy_Walker on (April 24, 2013, 3:34 GMT)

My XI would have been: Rogers, Cosgrove, Khawaja, Doolan, Clarke, Smith, Paine, O'Keefe, Siddle, Pattinson, Bird. If 2 spinners needed Ahmed, if all pace include starc

Posted by 5dayFAN on (April 24, 2013, 3:31 GMT)

I like this squad a lot more than the one which toured India... dropping Maxwell and Henriques is a good move because they are both better suited to short forms (especially Maxwell). Good to see Khawaja retained and Bird and Harris recalled.

Posted by Big_Maxy_Walker on (April 24, 2013, 3:24 GMT)

only one spinner? and that spinner is lyon? jeez the selectors haven't learnt at all. should have two spinners for England - ahmed and okeefe. with agar in the a side.

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 3:24 GMT)

@Nihal Bhat - "... tim paine hasnt played any competitive cricket.." - are you saying the Oz domestic cricket season is uncompetitive?

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 3:20 GMT)

Pity Watto couldn't play some of the A-tour. Needs to get his head right with the red ball!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 3:20 GMT)

Aussies have an issue with their middle order batting. A huge hole needs to be filled with Michael Hussey's premature retirement. What do we do? We pick another opener. 35 year old Chris Rogers. You are joking. Don't we have enough openers already? Cowan, Warner, Watson, Hughes. If you want an exprienced middle order campaigner, what about David Hussey? Oh no he is old. Yeah right. Almost 50 days older than Rogers. Crazy.

Posted by KhanMitch on (April 24, 2013, 3:19 GMT)

Good squad, while I am no fan of Haddin's and would have had Paine and Hartley on the plane ahead of him I do like the fact that his inclusion as Vice-Captain paves the way for Watson to be dropped if he under-performs with the bat.Warner, Cowan and Hughes will probably be given the first test, but should one of them not perform Rogers will play the second in my opinion - another good call. Khawaja is a classy left hander who should get his chance at no.4 (or 6 depending on where Watson plays).I am surprised at only one spinner, but given Agar's presence in Hampshire and the apparent dislike of O'Keefe I can understand it.We will still lose the first Ashes series, but perhaps not by as much as I thought now, and we will be a decent chance in the return series if the same team is selected.The pace lineup is top notch, no complaints at all.

Posted by Simoc on (April 24, 2013, 3:18 GMT)

Another opening bat, five in all; just what we needed. The first three have been getting out so quickly of late it's like opening at 4 and 5.At least we're getting consistency in selection. Just missing performance on the field. Smith would be unlucky and Rogers has been scoring runs.

Posted by Chris_P on (April 24, 2013, 3:13 GMT)

@David Stephens. Um, Harris will play 2 tests only (one will be Lords), Smith is already playing IPL & who cares what Watson does as long it's not in the test team. Bird was the standout emerging bowler last summer, he thoroughly deserved his spot. Rogers deserved his spot although very belated. Wade should burn his gloves forever (and keep a little warm over there) but his batting has enough to suggest he can make a fist of it alone. The A team players also have a chance to impress as well & I still have yet to make sense of the Marsh hype as headlines for being a bolter?

Posted by cobras11 on (April 24, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

i am surprised by two things. there is no ben hilfenhaus , arguably the best swing bowler in australia. secondly alex doolan after all i have read about him and his acheivements in sheffield shield cricket i thought he would have got a chance. i agree that he was not selected for india as it is totally different from aussie conditions but he should have been selected for england. last is cowan missing out an opening slot in the starting xi ??

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

Looks like a much better squad than went to India! The inclusion of Faulkner is a very nice addition. I think that if Watson is still counted to play on over the next few years he needs to open, and if he has a few bad innings at the top then it's all over for him. And no Johnson, unsurprisingly.

My 11: Rogers, Watson, Hughes, Warner/Khawaja/Wade, Clarke, Haddin, Faulkner, Pattinson, Siddle, Harris, Lyon. Doesn't look too shabby at all :)

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 3:07 GMT)

tmd1 - tim paine hasnt played any competitive cricket

Posted by CaliforniaMysterySpinner on (April 24, 2013, 3:05 GMT)

Got to feel a little for Steve Smith. Was probably the second best batsman during the India series and now is dropped. If Australia predictably suffers against quality spin of Swann, then the selectors will rue their non selection of Smith.

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 3:05 GMT)

I am happy on a personal level should Fawad make the A-tour of SA, however, from a reward for cricket excellence over time, it would be a bad move. He has started his SHIELD career very well, & I have no problems with him being selected in the future (age permitting). However, I really don't like what appears to be (superficially) a fast tracking of any player into the Oz side. In a timeline, IF he played well during the Shield next season, I would consider him for the 5th Ashes Test in Sydney next year. That is the earliest fair timeline IMO, or better still, the March/April overseas tour. Like the idea of having a quality leggie back in National colours, but he must pay his on-field dues (off-field is not in question)!

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:55 GMT)

I think Watson and Warner should open. Watson had a great time as opener before his injury and in fact he was the sole run maker for over 18 months when they had a really lean period. He seems back in touch now. They are both attacking players but also know how to play the waiting game. Cowan is a great choice for #3 as he knows how to survive longer periods of time.. he could actually get an opportunity to convert his starts if he comes in at #3. Clarke should bat #4, then Wade (as batsman only), Haddin, Rogers/Hughes @ #7 (Rogers seems like a veteran already and HUghes a youngster.. either ways bailing the team out of tough situations will make them better players..) Starc, Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon to follow.. would be my XI to start off with.

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 2:54 GMT)

@Troy Merritt - I think you'll find that Wade has made the Ashes squad. @Sir_Francis on (April 24, 2013, 2:24 GMT) - wouldn't pick Cummins until he has played a Shield game! == == == Must say - what an EXCELLENT A-squad. Perfect blend of Ashes practise & blooding. NSP take a bow! Congrats Silk & Agar! My only gripe is as per usual SO'K is the invisible man again! == == == I s'pose Cowan didn't make the A-tour as he is playing County.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:52 GMT)

Is Pat Cummins ended?? SA tour was exceptional for him...

Posted by Mitty2 on (April 24, 2013, 2:50 GMT)

I commented before I saw the aus a tour. Silk! Disappointed burns isn't in the A squad, but smith, doolan, silk and maddison are the better of our youngsters, so goods decision. I think it's also a very good decision to have our ashes bowlers in the A tour. But best of all is chadd sayers' selection. Averaged under 20 on a batter's paradise and looks perfect for England. The selectors have outdone themselves!

Posted by stickboy on (April 24, 2013, 2:46 GMT)

Pretty decent, fair and balanced squad i think. I really think Luke Butterworth deserves to be in the Australia A mix at least though due to his very good all round performances in recent years. He's experienced and a better batsman and bowler than Faulkner I reckon.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:45 GMT)

Don't understand why Rogers ,should have gone with a younger player. Smith is very unlucky other than Clark he was the only one who had any idea of how to play spin.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:45 GMT)

Huge congratulations to Rogers. He has to be in the XI. Don't pick him as a reserve.

Posted by Batmanian on (April 24, 2013, 2:40 GMT)

So, can Fawad Ahmed play for Australia A without citizenship (or whatever the minimum qualification is), but not Australia? What's his status?

Posted by Markdal on (April 24, 2013, 2:40 GMT)

Could have been worse. They've effectively picked 5 openers with the addition of Rogers. Surprised to see Smith left out after India, and I'm pleasantly surprised to see Bird and Faulkner. Thought Bird might have missed out because he hasn't played since being injured. One spinner picked tells me that they want to wait for Fawal Ahmed's eligibilty to come through and the play him for the second half of the tour. I can see Wade at 6 and Haddin at 7 is a possibility.

Posted by tmd1 on (April 24, 2013, 2:38 GMT)

Perhaps Haddin will keep up to the stumps and Wade will keep to the quicks, Haddin has dropped so many catches of the quicks in the last 2 years and is not getting any better.Everyone seems to forget that Prior is worse than Wade standing up to the stumps (he missed more chances than Wade in India when England were there). Tim Paine would have been a better selection than Haddin or Wade (way better bat).

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:35 GMT)

Agree with wix99. Whilst there are some good choices like Rogers, India showed Aus are vastly inept again spin. There is nothing to suggest English wickets will be dustbowls, but with no one who can say they are a genuine 4 or 6/ spin batter Swann and Monty will like what they see here.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:35 GMT)

Geez that was nerve wrecking. At the end except for Cowan's inclusion for this is really the perfect squad really. AUS have got every once out of Cowan's ability already as an opener. He was always a stop-gap option because S Marsh, Hughes were struggling at the top, so its time to tap him on the shoulder and say thanks & goodbye.

Inverarity & the panel deserve credit for returning to the train of sanity after picking some poor squads in the last 12 months across all formats. The team still has too much blokes who are better @ batting in the top 3 (cowan, watson, warner, hughes, khawaja) than in the middle-order, which is slightly concerning & another area where picking Bailey instead of Cowan as pure middle order option would have bee more useful.

Watson, Warner, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Haddin, Faulkner, Siddle, Harris, Pattinson, Lyon would be best XI for the selected squad IMO.

Posted by I-Like-Cricket on (April 24, 2013, 2:33 GMT)

Wow! The selectors have pretty much got the selection right this time. I mean with the inclusion of Rogers there's probably no way Khawaja will get a bat but I never liked him anyway so I couldn't care less. Feel a little for Steve Smith though, hopefully he has a good A tour and can get himself included in the squad at least. Henriques too I think should feel a little unlucky after his debut, though if he really wants to play he could always head over and try and play some County Cricket.

Posted by Nightwing32 on (April 24, 2013, 2:29 GMT)

Great squad. Rather Bailey or Smith than Watto.

My first XI would be: Rogers and Warner opening then add in Khawaja at 6 with Cowan, Hughes and Clarke at the 3, 4 and 5. Hads will take 7th and then Siddle, Patto, Lyon and Harris. You need a spinner regardless and the new NSW spinner (Lyon) will be awesome.

Posted by TasChard on (April 24, 2013, 2:28 GMT)

Thank god the selectors have finally selected Jimmy Faulkner. Had to be selected ahead of bit part allrounders like Maxwell and Henriques.

Posted by Webba84 on (April 24, 2013, 2:26 GMT)

Looks like the selectors learned a lot from the India tour. Thank goodness!

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (April 24, 2013, 2:25 GMT)

I am very happy with the inclusion of the experienced, quality and in form batsman Chris Rogers, as well as clearly the best all rounder in the country in James Faulkner, and the best bowler in the country in Ryan Harris. These 3 should have been automatic selections. As should have been Mitchell Johnson, who sadly was cut as Jackson Bird was deemed to be a better option, in spite of recovering from injury, because of a couple of good returns in helpful conditions. I am also so relieved to see that Shaun Marsh was not included. But why are we still continuing with Phil Hughes? Glad to see Khawaja retained too. But what did Steve Smith do wrong? Best batsman in India yet dumped? While Haddin has had his best ever season with the bat this year, it doesn't warrant inclusion as a keeper let alone as vice captain and first choice keeper. I know that Wade has dropped back with keeping in the past year, but he has dropped to 2nd behind Hartley. he is still ahead of Haddin!

Posted by Toreador on (April 24, 2013, 2:24 GMT)

All of a sudden I'm excited at our prospects in England. I am happy about this squad. I'm one of those who is barracking for Khawaja although we really don't have a lot of evidence to go on. If Hughes doesn't perform in the first two test he's really got to be left out for a long time after that. And by perform, I don't mean make 70 runs in the first innings and then flounder for the next 3. Even a few 'solid' 30's shouldn't be enough to retain him.Anything averaging less than 40 and he should be gone. He's had his chances.

I'm betting Lyon will do well now that we have a keeper who can stand up to the stumps and make the most of simple chances.

Posted by Sir_Francis on (April 24, 2013, 2:24 GMT)

Watson is lucky. Averaged 24 over the last 2 years. Smith a little unlucky to be beaten by Watson & Khawaja.

Also, has Cummins retired? He can't still be injured.

And why is there a tour to South Africa in July. It's winter there. Will the weather be acceptable?

Posted by hycIass on (April 24, 2013, 2:23 GMT)

@ChrisP well said mate, sanity has prevailed with Khawaja being picked over Marsh, Smith is unlucky, i would have personally gone for Haddin as a keeper not as batsman.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:22 GMT)

Overall, this is a good squad. Haddin should be the vice-captain as the side would otherwise be lacking in experienced support for Clarke. Smith is unlucky to be demoted behind Hughes who was poor in India and the talented but slovenly Khawaja - the hardest working player in the squad repalced by the slackest. I expect that Ryan Harris will play a few tests but wouldn't be upset with any of the fast bowlers being included. I think Watrson will bat at six in this line-up. My first test team would be: Rogers, Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Haddin, Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon ane Harris.

Posted by hycIass on (April 24, 2013, 2:21 GMT)

Interesting. Thanks for coming Smithy, Harris and Bird welcome additions. One spinner? I was enjoying the adventures of Maxi.They surely cannot contemplate playing Wade and Haddin in the same XI?Ussie in, amazing.

Posted by trex1981 on (April 24, 2013, 2:21 GMT)

I might have included a second spinner (not that they are that important in England anyway, just as cover for Lyon - not sure who I would've left out on the bowling front though). I'd probably have included Doolan in the Ashes squad instead of Hughes, in spite of his inexperience. Good to see Rogers & Faulkner in there as well as Ryan Harris making a comeback. Not sure why Butterworth isn't in the Aus A squad, that's probably the main glaring omission that I see (unless he's injured).

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:19 GMT)

Totally bizarre selection. Harris will break down, Watson will spit the dummy, Khawaja will be ignored, Lyon's spinning finger will fall off, Smith will sign up to IPL and every other money making league after feeling justifiably miffed at missing out after his good form in India, Bird must have won the lottery as any one of 6 other fringe bowlers could have got the trip, the only positive in Rogers selection is that he will be around when Hughes inevitably fails. Haddin should play as a batsman, Wade will never get up to scratch as a keeper if he isn't given a shot.

Posted by bobagorof on (April 24, 2013, 2:19 GMT)

I'm a bit disappointed that Smith missed out, considering his performance in India, but I am glad that Rogers was selected to add a bit of experience to the side. 6 specialist batsmen, 2 pace-bowling allrounders, 2 wicketkeepers, 5 pace bowlers and a spinner is a good mix. More importantly, the squad looks to have a definite plan, rather than 'trying to cover all bases' as it did on the last tour.

Posted by Yasin123Patel on (April 24, 2013, 2:14 GMT)

This is a perfect selection. A very good squad and well balanced. Many people may argue over Haddin selection. But man he is experienced player and oz need someone like him. Plus you can play Wade as specialist batsman, he is a good player of seam. Remember his 50 at perth vs protease. I like that selecters include James Faulkner. He is a brilliant smart bowler and good enough to bat too. So for me this is just a perfect squad. Chris Rogers add experience in the squad. He has a vast experience of english condition. So just perfect. Only major issue ll be inclusion of haddin, but personaly I Preffer haddin.

Posted by Batmanian on (April 24, 2013, 2:14 GMT)

Does make you worry where the Shaun Marsh smokescreen came from! I think I was getting used to that idea...

The First Test team I think they'll pick is: Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Watson, Haddin, Pattinson, Harris, Siddle, Lyon

The First Test team I would pick from the squad is: Watson, Rogers, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Agar, Pattinson, Harris, Siddle

I like the idea of promoting to Siddle to anchor after double-top-scoring. It's probably the best combination of last four batsmen the world's ever seen. I've also always thought Lyon is too good a batsman for 10 or 11, but I think we need to try something on the spin front and may as well start from the get go. I guess assess how everyone is bowling come Blighty...

Posted by goldeneraaus on (April 24, 2013, 2:11 GMT)

well, the rumours had us all worried, but the selectors have gone with common sense and picked a good squad given the options. smart to leave out Marsh (talent hasn't = runs), Smith (good against spin, still got work to do against high class pace) and the host of other bit piece players who went to India. Feel for Wade but Haddin's experience given the recent retirements is invaluable! Will be interesting to see how Rogers is accommodated.. He is obviously going to play and not warm the bench at his age, does this mean the end of the line for watto? My guess would be the warm up games are going to be HUGE. Given the squad my top 6: Rogers Hughes(he has 20 FC opening, stick him there!) Khawaja Clarke Watson(if bowling) Warner (much better chance of changing the game against old ball/still has skills to counter the 2nd new ball).

Posted by Sunil_Batra on (April 24, 2013, 2:10 GMT)

The articles last night all pointed to Khawaja missing out and i kept telling folks to calm down as the selectors know how to pick the right players for the right conditions, great squad, with Khawaja and Rogers in there. Also predicting a big one from Warner and i think our bowling attack looks very good wiht our fast pace attack.

Posted by Meety on (April 24, 2013, 2:08 GMT)

Phew! I can keep my citizenship - LOL! I think Watto is a bit lucky, & now MUST repay the NSPs faith, unburdened of captaincy. This is (IMO) his last hurrah, if he doesn't perform, no more excuses. I think that Smith is probably the most unlucky of the players to miss out. Hopefully the A-tour includes Khawaja, he is woefully short of practise against the red ball. The squad is not far off what should of been. == == == Now that the Ashes squad is selected, the A-tour needs to be 1. Cowan (c), 2. Cosgrove, 3. Khawaja (vc), 4. Burns, 5. Smith, 6. Maxwell, 7. Paine, 8. O'Keefe, 9. Sandhu, 10. Coulter-Nile, 11. Sayers 12th Henriques, 13th Doolan, 14th Silk, 15th Butterworth, 16th Agar. I select Cowan & Khawaja as they are not in the ODI squad & need some practise. This would be where I would draw a back up spinner from.

Posted by smokem on (April 24, 2013, 2:07 GMT)

Faulkner is a little lucky to be preferred over Smith and Henriques. It's not like either failed in India. How about giving one of those an extended run?

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:07 GMT)

Well, so far so good, Haddin and Rogers back in as everyone and their dog has been demanding.

Faulkner's been good, but is he getting the spot because of his supposed all rounder status? Last thing we need is another #6 "all rounder" who's really just a bowler. I would have gone with O'Keefe or Agar for the spin option, just to give them a 10 test run see what happens, we know what we're getting with Lyon and it is what it is.

Rogers surely opens the batting if he plays unless they want him to be Mike Hussey and slot him in at 6. Seems like the only question will be whether they do that and whether Watson or Khawaja is in the side come the first test.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:06 GMT)

australia a side looks quite good too: silk, khawaja, doolan, smith, maddinson, haddin, sayers, siddle, pattinson, harris, bird , lyon and agar.

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:05 GMT)

Initial thoughts: Very good choices, this seems to be the best we can put forward for now. Congrats to Haddin, Faulkner and Rogers, commiserations to Wade and Steve Smith (and I guess SOK...). I think Matthew Wade wil be back, but needs to work on his keeping.

Likely 1st Test - Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Rogers, Watson, Haddin, Siddle, Starc, Pattinson, Lyon.

My preferred team: Warner, Cowan, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Haddin, Faulkner, Harris, Pattinson, Bird, Lyon.

Posted by Mitty2 on (April 24, 2013, 2:04 GMT)

Guys, this is brilliant. I honestly could not have asked for a better squad. My hopes were low after the news of marsh.. But invers.. Well done sir!

After the predicted (terrible) squad being correct for India, I was dreading today's announcement. But, no, our best shield batsman in Rogers and one of the best shield bowlers in Faulkner are in! No smith as well, yay! Good to see he was a horses for courses. His selection and non selection was and is good insight from the NSP!

Still want Watson out of the side but that wouldn't have happened.

My XI: Cowan warner Rogers khawaja Clarke Watson haddin (would prefer wade) Harris patto bird and Lyon.

Also, an extra spinner will come in from the performances of the Australia A tour. Good luck SOK.

Posted by Showbags88 on (April 24, 2013, 2:04 GMT)

The only one that I can think that is unlucky to miss out is O'Keefe. My team out of that squad would be Warner, Rogers, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Watson, Haddin (Wade is unlucky), Pattinson, Siddle, Harris, Lyon (Bird comes in for Lyon if pitch is a green top).

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:03 GMT)

ashton agar and steve smith should have been included. i agree with all the other squad members though.

Posted by Dashgar on (April 24, 2013, 2:01 GMT)

Although I'm not sure about Haddin the rest of the squad looks pretty good. Personally is have Bailey over Khawaja but other than that it's pretty spot on. Great to see Faulkner there as he's a star and Harris and Rogers add both experience, skill and grit, all will be needed in this tough series. Watson hangs onto his spot by a thread and will need to show form with bat and ball to get into the final XI

Posted by   on (April 24, 2013, 2:00 GMT)

This is an odd selection. Surprised khawaja is still but very pleased that Rogers has made it back.

Posted by wix99 on (April 24, 2013, 1:59 GMT)

The squad is overloaded with opening batsmen. There are five batsmen whose preferred position is to open. The selection of Chris Rogers is a good one though and none of Cowan, Warner or Hughes can take their position in the side for granted now.

Posted by Chris_P on (April 24, 2013, 1:58 GMT)

Not too bad, sanity has prevailed with the non selection of Marsh, Agar is far to experienced but his time will come after he does the yard yards. I can't believe MJ was stated as just missing out! But without him, we are far better off. Probably Smith can count himself unlucky but a solid Australia A tour should keep his name in the selector's minds. MoHen's time will come, I guess I am one of a few who think he is far better value than Watson, who, IMHO, thoroughly didn't do anything to deserve selection. The persistence with Wade is disappointing (his keeping, not his batting). Copeland is still about & I am sure he will fire soon. A solid squad that should give a better account than in India but we will still be very much on the back foot over there.

Posted by Someguy on (April 24, 2013, 1:57 GMT)

Good call on Haddin as VC, I predicted that when Watson stepped down. Better with gloves and bat than Wade anyway.

Smith probably a little hard done by after his performance in India, but I can see why he was left out.

Chris Rogers is a good addition, has a lot of experience in England, probably a little unlucky to not have played more tests already.

The rest is pretty much as expected, although a little surprised Henriques wasn't included.

Posted by D-Train on (April 24, 2013, 1:51 GMT)

For once I actually agree with the selectors. Can't find too many faults or think of too many guys unlucky to miss out.

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