Bangladesh in West Indies 2014 August 29, 2014

Narine, Russell pick CLT20 over Tests

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West Indies spinner Sunil Narine and allrounder Andre Russell were considered for selection for the first Test against Bangladesh in St Vincent but opted to play in the Champions League T20 in India instead. The WICB said their "decisions will not have any deleterious effect on consideration for future West Indies selection" because the CLT20 had "an ICC approved window on the international schedule."

Both Narine and Russel play for Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL. Narine has played six Tests for West Indies, while Russell has played only one, against Sri Lanka in 2010.

The qualifying round of the Champions League begins on September 13, the day the second Test against Bangladesh commences. Apart from players in the Barbados Tridents squad that won the Caribbean Premier League, seven other West Indies players are representing IPL franchises in the Champions League. They are: Narine, Russell, Dwayne Bravo, Lendl Simmons, Kieron Pollard, Dwayne Smith and Samuel Badree.

Fast bowler Jason Holder, who made his debut in West Indies' most recent Test - against New Zealand in Barbados in June - was part of the Barbados Tridents squad released by the CLT20, but has been picked for the first Test against Bangladesh.

Narine had not been considered for selection for all three home Tests against New Zealand after opting to play for Knight Riders in the IPL final on June 1. It caused him to miss the start of a West Indies training camp ahead of the first Test starting on June 8. Narine's absence paved the way for Shane Shillingford and Sulieman Benn to make their return to Test cricket.

The 13-man squad for the first Test against Bangladesh was the first one picked by the new WICB selection panel led by Clive Lloyd. The only change from the previous West Indies squad was reserve batsman Leon Johnson being dropped.

West Indies squad: Denesh Ramdin (capt), Chris Gayle, Kraigg Brathwaite, Kirk Edwards, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Jermaine Blackwood, Kemar Roach, Jerome Taylor, Jason Holder, Shannon Gabriel, Sulieman Benn, Shane Shillingford.

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  • on September 5, 2014, 11:23 GMT

    Where is POWELL , can someone tell me ? .

  • degiant on September 4, 2014, 16:04 GMT

    First it was Change the selectors, Change the selectors. Then thank God for Clive LLoyd and now complaining again. You guys can't be please. Let the guys select the best team and then blame the poor performance on the players whom most of which do not play with the big heart or pride as past teams.Now to Narine, when the board made the point not to select him against NZ many said that the board was too hard, well tell me now if they were right. Narine made his choice and as we all can see, it's about the big buck, not blaming him but he can't have it both ways. Commit to the buck or to WI cricket.

  • on September 4, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    I fully understand the value and purpose of T20, you can't compete with the revenue it brings in, so quite naturally when a clash of schedules occur, some of the players will prefer to participate in T20 competitions instead of representing their country or nation in Test Matches. Now if i was cynical, i'd call those people money-orientated sellouts, but that's the unfortunate reality of the modern game. Personally i blame the ICC and whatever authority that has the power to change and re-invent all the formats, but for reasons i can't fathom Test Cricket is being completely ignored. The five day game is still highly popular in the big-money countries like India, Australia, South Africa and England, but now you're seeing Test Matches not necessarily falling over the weekend like we use to, simply to accommodate the demands and popularity of domestic T20 competitions, financed by Billion and millionaires. Also the convenience of Day/Night matches to attract crowds after work.

  • Gowza on September 4, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    miguel cummins should of been picked! roach, holder, cummins would be a terrific attack.

  • on September 3, 2014, 11:04 GMT

    Simmons,Blackwell & Carlos Brathwaite, not to forget young Beaton and Cotterell these players should all have been selected to play against Bangladesh. please stop calling for my fave cricketers- Sarwan & Samuels. They have done little to merit selection. Gayle needs to bat lower down the order,he has never move his feet to play the moving ball, he is not going to start now. Gabriel deserves another chance along with Kirk Edwards. Edwards must come good or he's out. SIMMONS must be drafted into this WINDIES team, he must be given a run .Chanderpaul shows why he is still viable.Dwayne Bravo is also needed for this team, he is a talented all rounder who has worked hard to earn a player, he deserves it.

  • on September 2, 2014, 23:57 GMT

    Bonner for Edwards and Beaton for Gabriel . Pray tell me , what will RUSSELL be doing in a TEST match. These Selectors keep doing it time after time . A new bunch and the "madness" continues.

  • on September 2, 2014, 21:55 GMT

    People who say Test cricket should be abolished simply don't understand what cricket is about. Such a magnificent combat of bat and ball, a true Test of character and technique. I will take Test cricket, every day, any day ahead of ODIs and... eeweh...T20 "cricket".

  • on September 2, 2014, 17:06 GMT

    Come on guys, Test cricket is old, traditional and boring. With every bit of respect for the past and the giants of that era, I say thank you, but like everything in life, we must adapt to remain viable or to survive. Twenty20 is where the fun and excitement is; batsmen have become more innovative and it requires more skill to score runs off good balls. On the other hand test cricket is more an indication of a batsman's ability to block for long periods of time, not the talent or skill in scoring runs. Furthermore who has the time to come watch cricket for 5 days straight when there is life to attend to like work, family etc ?

  • Riddymon on September 2, 2014, 11:25 GMT

    wait...so Russell is getting a test call up ahead of Pollard? Not that I'm a huge fan of either but c'mon....I don't get these selections at all.

  • on September 2, 2014, 3:58 GMT

    Sorry Simmons was not picked to open with Brathwaite. I would put Gayle at 4 if Simmons was in the team at the expense of Blackwood. My team then is: Chris Gayle, Kraigg Brathwaite, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Jermaine Blackwood, Denesh Ramdin (capt), Jason Holder, Jerome Taylor, Kemar Roach, Sulieman Benn, Shane Shillingford. Chanderpaul at 4 give more stability both up and down the order and more chance to score big hundreds. The future problem West Indies must be answer - who will inherit the roles of Gayle and Chanderpaul? Blackwood could be one since he seems to love batting. Hope they have a plan in place.

  • on September 5, 2014, 11:23 GMT

    Where is POWELL , can someone tell me ? .

  • degiant on September 4, 2014, 16:04 GMT

    First it was Change the selectors, Change the selectors. Then thank God for Clive LLoyd and now complaining again. You guys can't be please. Let the guys select the best team and then blame the poor performance on the players whom most of which do not play with the big heart or pride as past teams.Now to Narine, when the board made the point not to select him against NZ many said that the board was too hard, well tell me now if they were right. Narine made his choice and as we all can see, it's about the big buck, not blaming him but he can't have it both ways. Commit to the buck or to WI cricket.

  • on September 4, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    I fully understand the value and purpose of T20, you can't compete with the revenue it brings in, so quite naturally when a clash of schedules occur, some of the players will prefer to participate in T20 competitions instead of representing their country or nation in Test Matches. Now if i was cynical, i'd call those people money-orientated sellouts, but that's the unfortunate reality of the modern game. Personally i blame the ICC and whatever authority that has the power to change and re-invent all the formats, but for reasons i can't fathom Test Cricket is being completely ignored. The five day game is still highly popular in the big-money countries like India, Australia, South Africa and England, but now you're seeing Test Matches not necessarily falling over the weekend like we use to, simply to accommodate the demands and popularity of domestic T20 competitions, financed by Billion and millionaires. Also the convenience of Day/Night matches to attract crowds after work.

  • Gowza on September 4, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    miguel cummins should of been picked! roach, holder, cummins would be a terrific attack.

  • on September 3, 2014, 11:04 GMT

    Simmons,Blackwell & Carlos Brathwaite, not to forget young Beaton and Cotterell these players should all have been selected to play against Bangladesh. please stop calling for my fave cricketers- Sarwan & Samuels. They have done little to merit selection. Gayle needs to bat lower down the order,he has never move his feet to play the moving ball, he is not going to start now. Gabriel deserves another chance along with Kirk Edwards. Edwards must come good or he's out. SIMMONS must be drafted into this WINDIES team, he must be given a run .Chanderpaul shows why he is still viable.Dwayne Bravo is also needed for this team, he is a talented all rounder who has worked hard to earn a player, he deserves it.

  • on September 2, 2014, 23:57 GMT

    Bonner for Edwards and Beaton for Gabriel . Pray tell me , what will RUSSELL be doing in a TEST match. These Selectors keep doing it time after time . A new bunch and the "madness" continues.

  • on September 2, 2014, 21:55 GMT

    People who say Test cricket should be abolished simply don't understand what cricket is about. Such a magnificent combat of bat and ball, a true Test of character and technique. I will take Test cricket, every day, any day ahead of ODIs and... eeweh...T20 "cricket".

  • on September 2, 2014, 17:06 GMT

    Come on guys, Test cricket is old, traditional and boring. With every bit of respect for the past and the giants of that era, I say thank you, but like everything in life, we must adapt to remain viable or to survive. Twenty20 is where the fun and excitement is; batsmen have become more innovative and it requires more skill to score runs off good balls. On the other hand test cricket is more an indication of a batsman's ability to block for long periods of time, not the talent or skill in scoring runs. Furthermore who has the time to come watch cricket for 5 days straight when there is life to attend to like work, family etc ?

  • Riddymon on September 2, 2014, 11:25 GMT

    wait...so Russell is getting a test call up ahead of Pollard? Not that I'm a huge fan of either but c'mon....I don't get these selections at all.

  • on September 2, 2014, 3:58 GMT

    Sorry Simmons was not picked to open with Brathwaite. I would put Gayle at 4 if Simmons was in the team at the expense of Blackwood. My team then is: Chris Gayle, Kraigg Brathwaite, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Jermaine Blackwood, Denesh Ramdin (capt), Jason Holder, Jerome Taylor, Kemar Roach, Sulieman Benn, Shane Shillingford. Chanderpaul at 4 give more stability both up and down the order and more chance to score big hundreds. The future problem West Indies must be answer - who will inherit the roles of Gayle and Chanderpaul? Blackwood could be one since he seems to love batting. Hope they have a plan in place.

  • satspeare on September 2, 2014, 1:57 GMT

    Missing out from the 11 in the this squad will have to be Shannon Gabriel and Shane Shillingford. Since the selectors persists with Kirk Edwards, I think that he should open the batting and Gayle given a chance to play out the rst of his test career in the middle order.My batting order for the first test:- 1 Kraigg Brathwaite, 2 Kirk Edwards, 3 Jermaine Blackwood, 4 Chris Gayle, 5 Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 6 Darren Bravo, 7 Denesh Ramdin (capt), 8 Jerome Taylor, 9 Jason Holder, 10 Kemar Roach and 11 Sulieman Benn whats wrong with Bishoo?? I would preferred him or Miller to Shillingford and Benn. Samuels should be picked ahead of Edwards - at this time even Sarwan is a better choice. would love to see Sarwan in the team for India, but if he does not play in this series - what other cricket is there for him to make the WC team and yes we NEED him for world cup.

  • wirus on September 1, 2014, 17:23 GMT

    I can only assume that the new selectors are paying respect to the choices of the previous ones so as not to seem revolutionary. Furthermore, there isn't a vast number of replacements waiting to rampage into the WI team. Still Shillingford in particular is a complete mystery. Having been dropped and surprisingly brought back one test later vs NZ, his display was pitiful. He is not the same bowler since his special ball was taken away from him. WI have to move on especially as they have such a good crop of spinners Surely this must be Edwards' last chance. Loyalty to players is one thing, allowing it to lose you a test is another, as happened in the last test against NZ. Gayle too has to show that he is still worth a place. He and Edwards may come good in these two matches but somehow based on recent evidence one doubts it. Yet we wish them all well. Let's hope they play all 6 batsmen plus Ramdin and not try what they did against NZ. Bang can beat them - no doubt. WI must take care!

  • on August 31, 2014, 18:02 GMT

    Edwards?..whaat?..d man get bowled twice playing across d line. Shillingford?..only straight balls this man bowling. Gayle needs to stamp his authority or retire from Test cricket . What's with all the medium pace bowlers ?..give Contrell and Gabriel a chance..put some fire in the attack!!! WICB recycling players and sekectors...don't stand a chance for WC next year, but ah still backing them...die hard supporter?

  • British_North_America on August 31, 2014, 14:20 GMT

    Test cricket is more of a boring show than a sport.This should be abolished.There should be one 50 over world cup and 3-5 match series ODI and rest of them should be T20s, more and more premier leagues with high quality cricket and attractive cheerleaders are required.

  • on August 31, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    For those calling for Rampaul, i understand he does not play test anymore because of bad shin splints. Also why he gained weight. He can't do too much running.

  • on August 31, 2014, 7:09 GMT

    @SuicideNote you have name some legends (past players) stick with thr present or be content with watching reruns of their innings.

  • fr600 on August 31, 2014, 3:42 GMT

    To save longer version of cricket, ICC needs to step in and limit maximum number of overseas players in any T20 team to 2.

  • Suicide-Note on August 31, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    @StevieS agreed to you mate. It's test cricket which have produced legends. Lara,Tendulkar,Ponting ,Dravid these guys established themselves in tests before being successful in ODIs.In test cricket you cant hide from your weakness. t20 is most defensive form of cricket and it's simply annoying. Players like it because it's easy money for them. It's a good form of cricket for semi skilled cricketers like Raina and Yuvraj though

    Also someone is saying test cricket is dying. You should check records. Number of test cricket is increasing year by year. If any form of cricket is dying then its 50 overs. Teams like South Africa and Australia does not even 20 ODIs per year now.

  • Suicide-Note on August 31, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    @StevieS agreed to you mate. It's test cricket which have produced legends. Lara,Tendulkar,Ponting ,Dravid these guys established themselves in tests before being successful in ODIs.In test cricket you cant hide from your weakness. t20 is most defensive form of cricket and it's simply annoying. Players like it because it's easy money for them. It's a good form of cricket for semi skilled cricketers like Raina and Yuvraj though

  • whirlaway on August 31, 2014, 1:09 GMT

    @StevieS: It's not just you but even the T20 *fans* will not remember who won! T20 is not just "instant cricket". It is also instantly forgotten "cricket" :-)

    And I absolutely agree with you that Test cricket is the real test. Especially for the batsmen, because limited-overs cricket puts a lot of constraints on the bowlers - like how many overs they can bowl, what fields they can set, how many bouncers they can bowl, what is considered a wide ball, extra penalty for a front foot no-ball etc. etc.

    Particularly in the case of India, which claims to be a batting powerhouse, it is Test cricket that should be the yardstick to judge a team. And they have been found sorely lacking when put to that test.

  • on August 31, 2014, 1:07 GMT

    Rampaul is the best fast bowler in the WI. He is capable of swinging the new ball both ways and reversing the old ball. He must be selected in any wi squad once fitt

  • PaddyRasta2 on August 30, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    @aclarity I am not really seeing your point. Apart from Johnson, none of your suggestions have demonstrated form for Test cricket. My only agreement with you is that Shillingford should not be there. His action has been well documented and without the balls he is not allowed to bowl, he has no basis. Miller would have been a better choice for a second spinner, if Narine not available. And btw DJ Bravo has not been picked but I agree, he needs to demonstrate form in four day cricket and commitment to this before he can be picked.

  • StevieS on August 30, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    A lot of rubbish written here, I can't even remember who won the last 20/20 world cup yet I can name who won the last 5 ashes series and I am neither from England or Australia. Any player worth his salt will tell you that test cricket is the ultimate, it is players like Narine who get showed up in test cricket that is why he opts to play micky mouse cricket, he just isn't good enough for test cricket and that goes with pretty much the entire India team, ask legends like Dravid or Tendulkar what is the best format to play, without even blinking they will say test cricket.

  • Ncnotorious on August 30, 2014, 17:38 GMT

    @FOUR-REAL-QUICKS I agree with you that Rampaul cant play 5 days of cricket re: fitness issues. But atm Rampaul is one of the faster WI bowlers we have. Including faster than holder, roach and taylor. Just be clear that I dont think he should play because of fitness, but to say he isnt dedicated to bowling quick seems to be totally unfair on his part.

  • on August 30, 2014, 17:33 GMT

    Surprised to not hear others getting on Gayle for CL, note he is included in test squad. I don't begrudge player whichever they choose as there is a ICC window .

  • Suicide-Note on August 30, 2014, 17:06 GMT

    CLT20 is a joke in first place.4 IPL teams. Really? Back on topic it makes sense whoever opted for CLT t20. Dont think they are regular members of playing XI.

  • nk94555 on August 30, 2014, 17:00 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster totally agree with you. Outside England and ashes, there is almost no test cricket following. Even in Australia, when India played last time, only 20-25% stadiums were empty and I am sure this will be the same this year too. Test cricket is dying and dying fast. In my opinion these bilateral series serves no purpose, I know this is how the cricket has been played over 100 years but time has change. Recently I stumbled upon willow cricket and watched 15 min of Pak-SL test match and that was the most boring 15 minutes of sporting event I have seen. There were hardly anyone in stands and no buzz and same will be the case in Wi-Ban series as well. ICC needs to understand that these types of cricket is waste of time and money. Money generated by IPL and other T20 leagues are being wasted in series like these.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 30, 2014, 16:57 GMT

    People calling for Ravi Rampaul have no idea. He simply is NOT up to bowling more than a few short spells nowadays. His fitness, always an issue throughout his career, has dropped to a level where he now strives for the extra plate of goat curry, rather than an extra yard of pace. Leave him in the wilderness, Roach, Taylor and Holder will handle the pace duties for now.

  • Cpt.Meanster on August 30, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    Fair enough. By opting to play in the CLT20, these players will be playing in front of packed houses and noisy crowds in India. Guess what, playing in India = instant fame and recognition. The world needs to come to reality about test cricket. It's a dying format. With the exception of some sections of the English public and Australia, a vast majority of people don't follow tests that much. This is a good decision by these players. On the other hand, Bangladesh should seize this chance and try to win their first ever overseas test series.

  • aclarity on August 30, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Based on the team, this selection committee is no different from the last. In fact it vindicates Butts. Lloyd & co seem to be looking backwards instead of making decisive progressive steps. The record of Gayle in the past year and his immobility should eliminate him from any WI team. Chanders is over 40 and he is still there. Edwards, DJ Bravo and Shillingford should demonstrate form before further selection. Lewis, Bonner, Johnson Samuels and Beaton deserve consideration now. We are at the bottom, playing a bottom team but we keep out the deserving youths. Yes, we will immerse them against India and SA. Most likely after the WC when these underserving players fail miserably and say No Mas! Is this a strategy going forward?

  • on August 30, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    Bangladeshi players are not mantle good, they need to mantle strong and should perform in regular introverls. aAs Bangladeshi, i pray for bd team &enjoy their game right from my boyhood.

  • delboy on August 30, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Having a bunch of experts in this forum who seem to have all the answers to the range of problems one wonders why then these players are playing to empty stadiums, there is not competition for places etc, etc? Because the domestic game is far inferior standard to international level selectors will always be at a stick or twist scenario Do I stick with the experience who fails pr go for inexperience, is this the game where the likes of a Ramdinfor example willcome good? Remember he was doomed by many a year ago. Players want to perform infront of crowds a pay cheque is quaranteed for a good or bad performance but when players are in an arena buzzing with supporters it add an extra element to their game which no pay cheque can match. @wirus have you ever raised your issues with the people that matter? What help is given to the players for example to correct all the flaws you singularly identify? As an example Gayles poor running was known before he got to test match level and is Cntd..

  • on August 30, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    Where is rampaul. A proven wicket taker. Better bowling record than the rest of the bowlers chosen. What going on

  • on August 30, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    Rampaul is a wicket taker. Why is he not named in the squad ahead of Gabriel? Defies all logic.

  • wirus on August 30, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    Derek, in as much as I'm glad that Gibson has moved on and that we have some new selectors etc. I doubt that any of that affects the fundamental problems with the players named, i.e. it wasn't Gibson or the old selectors who were causing Gayle to poke at balls outside his off stump and get caught or swipe at other deliveries and get out. Nor were they responsible for Edwards' lack of judgement in playing across the line etc., nor for Shillingford being (understandably) lost without being able to use his full array of deliveries due to his action being under surveillance. In other words these players are either out of form or have technical/mental problems which make them vulnerable or are just no longer up to international standard. None of this is necessarily the players' fault but can WI afford to carry them anymore? I am not asking for "wholesale changes" but rather just what you recommend - step by step change and surely having in-form players is a step in the right direction.

  • Fahim_Bd_1998 on August 30, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    Waiting to watch some good performance by BD

  • Satish_13 on August 30, 2014, 9:02 GMT

    Agree with @derekgift-simms' comments. The two players chose the CPL over Tests, and were not necessarily victimised by the WICB. Also, no point making dramatic wholesale changes to the Test squad, hoping that someone will stick. Rather ensure that the squad is stable and confident in the WICB's belief in them. Then make progressive changes to finally arrive at a test squad that best represents the WI. I think that the squad chosen is mostly the strongest group of Test players available to the WICB, Gayle just needs to learn to run between wickets more often (rotate strike), and Gabriel needs to build up greater confidence. Goodluck WI :)

  • on August 30, 2014, 7:41 GMT

    @wirus you appear to be the proverbal bull in a china shop who subscribe to wholesale changes just for the sake of it. How about a step by step approach of changing specifics and monitoring the effects in isolation rather than chaos management? So Gibson has gone give the same team an opportunity to prove itself. Use the outcome to analyse how those players performing against Bangladesh might fear against India. Look at other available players such as Samuels, factor his past performances in India, is he ready for a recall, how will his inclusion affect the team no just on this series but in the future? I am simply using Samuels as a example..It must be remembered some of these players who you want to replace need to be given a chance to prove they want to be part of change. International sports teams csnnot be run in the same way you run a commercial enterprise. Player can float amongst T20 franchises but it take much longer for them to qualify to represent another country.

  • Cricsupernova on August 30, 2014, 7:05 GMT

    I think it is Sunil Narine who opt to play for Franchacise over natinnal team,my opinion for this chosen is fantastic,coz WICB very ego within themselves,they didn't pick Narine for a day late

  • wirus on August 30, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    How very disappointing that the new selectors should take up exactly where the old one left off as it is the same squad that lost unnecessarily to NZ. It is beyond belief! Gayle - who is now so hopelessly vulnerable that bowlers actually fancy getting him out in test and ODI formats. Yet he is chosen again. Edwards, who looked so utterly lost against BD in the 2 ODIs before he was DROPPED is chosen. Shillingford, who was so toothless and unthreatening in his last match against NZ (having been DROPPED for the previous match) that one felt embarrassed for him is chosen. Poor selection cost WI that series against NZ. Now they do it all over again. This is either gross disrespect for BD or simply a dereliction of duty by Lloyd and Co. I mean, what are they thinking? The only mitigating element might be who would they replace them with. In Shillingford's case that is easy as there are several good spinners around. As to batsmen - Johnson, Fudadin, Carter couldn't do much worse.

  • vigneshmurali on August 30, 2014, 5:30 GMT

    Players should not be made to feel guilty over choosing franchise over team ,and primarily they should not be put in a position where they have to make that choice Keep 3 months in every calender year for domestic t20 competitions where the ipl ,cpl,bpl and big bash all happen simultaneously.Then the player will only have to chose which franchise he wants to represent rather than between franchise and country which is one choice players should not be made to make.

    I mean the money is better in franchise cricket and lets be honest ,these days cricket is not only about the pride of playing for your country.Its a Profession like any other and players want monetary security out of their jobs.Same way no one feels bad if a doctor choses a multi speciality international chain of hospitals rather than helping africans in ebola crisis cricketers should not be presented in a negative light.

    Hope icc takes remedial actions in the near future

  • on August 30, 2014, 4:25 GMT

    Hope Bangladesh hammers West Indies and the WICB learn from their mistake of letting players opt for clubs n T20 over country and TEST CRICKET.

    Shameful.

  • Suicide-Note on August 30, 2014, 4:10 GMT

    Hoping to see Roach-Taylor-Holder tearing apart Bangladesh batting line up

  • on August 30, 2014, 2:43 GMT

    wher is marlon samuals ???????

  • on August 30, 2014, 2:21 GMT

    All these people saying Narine and Bravo should be picked and the WICB should let go of their ego need to read the article again. It clearly states that two players were considered for Test selection but chose to play in the CLT20 instead, and that we can reasonably conclude that they are Bravo and Narine. They probably won't choose Test cricket over T20s until they're picked reasonably consistently in Tests, and they won't be picked for Tests until they commit to the format over T20s, so if they don't get in it's their fault, I say.

    On another note, they should leave out Shillingford and Gabriel from the final team. Ineffective at best, expensive at worst.

  • on August 30, 2014, 1:19 GMT

    Just leave out shilly and Gabriel from the first test 11. If Edwards don't perform swap him for Johnson.

  • on August 30, 2014, 1:18 GMT

    Windies XI : Gayle, Brathwaite, Edwards, Bravo, Shiv, Blackwood, Ramdin, Holder, Benn, Taylor, Roach.

  • 10yearstudent on August 30, 2014, 1:15 GMT

    It is great to see Clive Llyod taken off where Clyde Butts left off. Why replace players who cannot even get one wicket off 31 overs bowled and went at 4.2 runs per over, his name is Shane shillingford. Hopefully they just play 4 seamers and no spinner because Benn is not that much better. My line up from this group would be 1.Gayle/Edwards 2.Braithwaite 3.Bravo 4.Ramdin 5.Chanderpaul 6.Blackwood 7.Edwards/Gayle 8.Holder 9.Taylor 10.Roach 11.Gabriel. THe reason i put either gayle or edwards at no. 1 or 7 is beacuse both of them will fail either way at the top of the order, it is just a matter of who you want batting down the order. I also think that Ramdin deserves the number 4 spot with the form he is in.

  • Sexysteven on August 30, 2014, 0:39 GMT

    Ok where's dwayne bravo rampaul narine samuels or Simmons there's no way Edwards Gabriel should be in that squad seriously dwayne bravo should be there an all rounder like him or even pollard should be there at six so if you want to play two spinners there's someone there to be the third seamer oh well lucky they are only playing the bangas the windies should get away with poor selection against them dropping Leon Johnson that's strange he didn't playing against nz so what did he do wrong was he abad 12th man lol cos that's all he did so that must be it

  • Mekkayel on August 29, 2014, 23:49 GMT

    West Indies absolutely need Sunil Narine and Dwayne Bravo in the squad. There aren't any other seam balling allrounders that can bat at no.6 and Shane Shllingford has been ineffective since his return and just leaks runs. I have a feeling that Kirk Edwards would have to be looked over when he fails as his technique does not call for him to be in any international team and while technique is not necessarily required to be successful, he looked horribly out of sorts.

  • Sappie on August 29, 2014, 23:20 GMT

    Perhaps certain players should be given the ultimatum "Put Up, or Be Put Up - On the Cricket Shelf." With a new Sheriff in town, Clive "The Gun Slinger" Lloyd, that should be the attitude of the selection panel when it comes to selecting the teams to represent WI. I am tired of "waiting 'till next year." Everyone keeps talking about the talent is there. Why is that talent not manifesting itself enough? How long must we wait for players to manfully defend the great honor of WI cricketing legacy instead of always buckling, wilting, and crumbling in the face of international teams who most times are not necessarily more talented than WI? Can Lloyd help to lead a resurgence of pride, honor, accountability, confidence, and winning to our once-proud and noble team? It has been 19 years since we lost to Aus in WI, a series we should have won. What is the problem? Am I to believe that the entire WI does not have the know-how to revive us? Come on, man! Stanley A George III, Bolans, Antigua

  • on August 29, 2014, 23:18 GMT

    still no Narine WICB need to strap on a pair and include their best bowler and stop letting their ego get in the way of cricket

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:59 GMT

    narine should get a chance against ban

  • mus_tard on August 29, 2014, 22:57 GMT

    Narine and Bravo can make a return to test cricket only after they play a FULL season of first class cricket, with the only interruptions being that of WI duty. Otherwise, they should not be near the test team. You cannot just say 'I have a desire to play tests' and make the test team when in more than the last 2 years the most overs you have bowled in a day was 10 and the most time spent fielding in a day was 3.5 hours. We need committed players who will put WI first and only play in foreign domestic tournaments when WI are not having any cricket going on. What I said above goes for Pollard too. Even if he might make a decent test player, play a full season of FC cricket first then he might be considered.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 29, 2014, 22:53 GMT

    Gayle, Brathwaite, Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Blackwood, Ramdin (c/w), Holder, Taylor, Benn, Roach. Blackwood deserves a chance after his promising debut, Holder must be given an extended run in the attack, along with Roach and Taylor. The choice of Benn over Shillingford is also a must - he simply offers more of an attacking option. West Indies must go at them from the off - put the foot on their throat and don't let up. Develop a winning attitude.

  • TeamSelector on August 29, 2014, 22:49 GMT

    1-Where is Marlon Samuels? 2-Are we playing four bowlers or five? I think Ramdin is a #7, not a #6

  • BRUTALANALYST on August 29, 2014, 22:25 GMT

    I was actually thinking it might be Kieron Pollard that may have been the other along with Narine not Bravo. Either way I'm surprised Shillignford is being persisted with but I guess this is partly down to W.I pitches ? I'd have preferred to see Cottrell and Carlos Brathwaite in the squad as these 2 both to me show the best promise as strike fast bowlers and playing against Bangladesh would have been a good chance to introduce them. Hopefully Holder and Blackwood can boty build on their solid débuts and make a real mark. I think Holders height should really trouble the short Bangladeshi batsman which is also why I'm disappointed Carlos wasn't included alongside him especially after his good showing v the A team recently and the pace of Cottrell would be more interesting than Shillingford but that's just me.

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:17 GMT

    This is good for young Blackwood. A chance to shape his craft at home against opposition that isn't too tough. Good confidence builder and an opportunity to pump up his Avg.

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    No Narine or dwayne bravo? I feel like West indies will never regain the glory of the success did previously had. Why so many changes transitioning from ODI and Test cricket. The best teams in the ICC don't differ that much from their ODI and Test squad. Lets be frank here it should be Benn/ Narine not shillingford he does nothing with ball. Dwayne Bravo needs to be in here even if he is not in the best form just to prove his case he can perform in test format. Tabbing people as strictly ODI or TEST players is not fair but they are some few cases, examples being chanderpaul and pollard maybe even pollard I would give a chance to prove them wrong. C'mon Kirk Edwards again!! He looks like he has lost all confidence in his batting and it is showing on field too. They better let HOLDER play both test as he is there best bowling/allrounder prospect. I want to see him in every format likewise with darren bravo these guys need to handed the reigns and lead west indies back to the glory days

  • riverlime on August 29, 2014, 21:58 GMT

    Narine et al, need to start playing tests again. That is the pinnacle of a cricket career. Everything else is the road to get there. Narine is spending too much time on the journey to greatness, and not enough on the destination, Test Match Cricket. Someone needs to remind him.

  • mus_tard on August 29, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    Gayle, Kraigg, Edwards, Bravo, Shiv, Blackwood, Holder, Taylor, Roach, Benn. Shilly has not been the same bowler since he can't bowl his doosra, and Gabriel really is not test quality. I would rather have Miller in the squad and play as the lone spinner over Benn. However, if WI opt to go with the extra bowler, Blackwood should move to his natural position at 3, in place of Edwards, and bring in Gabriel. But, I would have chosen Cotterell over Gabriel any day, and play him as the extra bowler since he is more than just out and out pace. He manages some swing, has a much better seam position, bowls about 5k's faster, and is LEFT armed - something we lack in the squad, a left quickie. However, the result should be 2-0 WI, and anything less would be very disappointing.

  • on August 29, 2014, 21:39 GMT

    What has Kirk Edwards don't to b selected. Rampaul deserves a place on that team.

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  • on August 29, 2014, 21:39 GMT

    What has Kirk Edwards don't to b selected. Rampaul deserves a place on that team.

  • mus_tard on August 29, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    Gayle, Kraigg, Edwards, Bravo, Shiv, Blackwood, Holder, Taylor, Roach, Benn. Shilly has not been the same bowler since he can't bowl his doosra, and Gabriel really is not test quality. I would rather have Miller in the squad and play as the lone spinner over Benn. However, if WI opt to go with the extra bowler, Blackwood should move to his natural position at 3, in place of Edwards, and bring in Gabriel. But, I would have chosen Cotterell over Gabriel any day, and play him as the extra bowler since he is more than just out and out pace. He manages some swing, has a much better seam position, bowls about 5k's faster, and is LEFT armed - something we lack in the squad, a left quickie. However, the result should be 2-0 WI, and anything less would be very disappointing.

  • riverlime on August 29, 2014, 21:58 GMT

    Narine et al, need to start playing tests again. That is the pinnacle of a cricket career. Everything else is the road to get there. Narine is spending too much time on the journey to greatness, and not enough on the destination, Test Match Cricket. Someone needs to remind him.

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    No Narine or dwayne bravo? I feel like West indies will never regain the glory of the success did previously had. Why so many changes transitioning from ODI and Test cricket. The best teams in the ICC don't differ that much from their ODI and Test squad. Lets be frank here it should be Benn/ Narine not shillingford he does nothing with ball. Dwayne Bravo needs to be in here even if he is not in the best form just to prove his case he can perform in test format. Tabbing people as strictly ODI or TEST players is not fair but they are some few cases, examples being chanderpaul and pollard maybe even pollard I would give a chance to prove them wrong. C'mon Kirk Edwards again!! He looks like he has lost all confidence in his batting and it is showing on field too. They better let HOLDER play both test as he is there best bowling/allrounder prospect. I want to see him in every format likewise with darren bravo these guys need to handed the reigns and lead west indies back to the glory days

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:17 GMT

    This is good for young Blackwood. A chance to shape his craft at home against opposition that isn't too tough. Good confidence builder and an opportunity to pump up his Avg.

  • BRUTALANALYST on August 29, 2014, 22:25 GMT

    I was actually thinking it might be Kieron Pollard that may have been the other along with Narine not Bravo. Either way I'm surprised Shillignford is being persisted with but I guess this is partly down to W.I pitches ? I'd have preferred to see Cottrell and Carlos Brathwaite in the squad as these 2 both to me show the best promise as strike fast bowlers and playing against Bangladesh would have been a good chance to introduce them. Hopefully Holder and Blackwood can boty build on their solid débuts and make a real mark. I think Holders height should really trouble the short Bangladeshi batsman which is also why I'm disappointed Carlos wasn't included alongside him especially after his good showing v the A team recently and the pace of Cottrell would be more interesting than Shillingford but that's just me.

  • TeamSelector on August 29, 2014, 22:49 GMT

    1-Where is Marlon Samuels? 2-Are we playing four bowlers or five? I think Ramdin is a #7, not a #6

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 29, 2014, 22:53 GMT

    Gayle, Brathwaite, Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Blackwood, Ramdin (c/w), Holder, Taylor, Benn, Roach. Blackwood deserves a chance after his promising debut, Holder must be given an extended run in the attack, along with Roach and Taylor. The choice of Benn over Shillingford is also a must - he simply offers more of an attacking option. West Indies must go at them from the off - put the foot on their throat and don't let up. Develop a winning attitude.

  • mus_tard on August 29, 2014, 22:57 GMT

    Narine and Bravo can make a return to test cricket only after they play a FULL season of first class cricket, with the only interruptions being that of WI duty. Otherwise, they should not be near the test team. You cannot just say 'I have a desire to play tests' and make the test team when in more than the last 2 years the most overs you have bowled in a day was 10 and the most time spent fielding in a day was 3.5 hours. We need committed players who will put WI first and only play in foreign domestic tournaments when WI are not having any cricket going on. What I said above goes for Pollard too. Even if he might make a decent test player, play a full season of FC cricket first then he might be considered.

  • on August 29, 2014, 22:59 GMT

    narine should get a chance against ban